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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Naughty but Nice. I'm your host from

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Speaker 2: Shooter and it is Friday, which means our dear friend

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Speaker 2: Corey Andrew joins us. Hey, Corey, are you there?

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Speaker 3: I am here. Happy Friday everyone.

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Speaker 2: Happy, Happy Friday night. Cory. You had a busy day yesterday,

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Speaker 2: this Gene Hackman story that we're going to do as

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Speaker 2: I lead today. I saw you all over TV. Congratulations,

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Speaker 2: my friends, you were great.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Yes, it was wonderful. News Nation

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Speaker 3: and meyrit TV was really lovely to be on both networks.

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Speaker 3: And I was also doing Oscar Predictions. It's a busy time.

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Speaker 2: Right now for Oscus. Yeah, Oscars is on Sunday. Who

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Speaker 2: did you predict is going to win Best Picture?

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Speaker 3: I really have to say. I gotta say Hollywood loves

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Speaker 3: a big, big, like kind of commercial success like Wicked,

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Speaker 3: but they also love like that weird oddity right of

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Speaker 2: So I think the substance I'm going to go with Conclave.

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be Conclave, I think. But

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Speaker 2: it's hard because Conclave's director did not get nominated, and

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Speaker 2: they normally don't give it to a picture without a

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Speaker 2: director nomination. But since they expanded their Best Picture to ten,

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Speaker 2: that means at least five of those pictures cannot have

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Speaker 2: it's going to be really interesting. I can't wait to

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Speaker 2: see it on Sunday. We'll get back We'll get back

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Speaker 2: to you with all the details on Monday. Okay, let's

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Speaker 2: jump into the show. What time is it, my friends?

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Speaker 2: It is tea Time. Big story at the top of

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Speaker 2: the show. So Gene Hackman's tragic death has been ruled

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Speaker 2: suspicious by authorities who uncover a really shocking scene. So

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Speaker 2: we spoke about this briefly yesterday. This story has exploded.

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Speaker 2: Everybody is talking about Gene Hackman. Now we should say

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Speaker 2: he was ninety five, so a gentleman who died when

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Speaker 2: the ninety five should not be that shocking. However, when

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Speaker 2: you add up all the pieces to this story, something

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Speaker 2: seeing a discrepancy in her age. She was discovered on

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Speaker 2: like she had fallen. There was pills scattered everywhere, prescription pills.

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Speaker 2: Also to tragically, one dog was found dead in a

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Speaker 2: there was no sign of gun violence or knife. There

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Speaker 2: was no signs on the body that they had been heard. Now,

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Speaker 2: some people, including Jean's daughter, believe maybe it was a

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Speaker 2: That's what people in the media were talking about. Authorities

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Speaker 2: tragedy is getting more and more sinister as we try

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Speaker 1: What are you hear?

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Speaker 3: Well, look, I'm no Nancy Grace here but friends, but

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Speaker 3: the beginning it was suspicious that the cops were so

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Speaker 3: quick to rule it a nonfoul play environment. They did

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Speaker 3: see as they are looking more into it, the pill bottles,

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Speaker 3: the falling space heater. You know, dogs can be dogs

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Speaker 3: that's suspicious and also rob You know, sometimes from watching

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Speaker 3: a crime of another nature. So the best word is suspicious, right,

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Speaker 3: That's all we can say about this, And it's really peculiar.

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Speaker 2: From suspicious is the right words. It's suspicious. There's something

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Speaker 2: Was this some sort of suicide packed where they both

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Speaker 2: think happened here? Everything that I've heard of carbon monoxide

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Speaker 2: which brings us to our whole question of the day.

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Speaker 2: Gean Hackman's death has been called suspicious by the authorities.

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Speaker 2: they've changed it to suspicious. I would say, so, do

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Speaker 2: Kek vote on our Twitter page. I had naughty Nice Rob.

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Speaker 2: Her facebook page is mut to Gossip and be sure

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Speaker 2: to check back on Monday to hear your results. Hey, Corey,

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Speaker 2: what are you working on?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know there is this question now in the

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's so common for you to post a

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Speaker 3: So to me, this is much ado about nothing as

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Speaker 2: I spoke to some Megan sources and they pretty much

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Speaker 2: very controlling that. This is a perfectionist. She wants things

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Speaker 2: nothing wrong with that. However, sometimes that can become very,

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Speaker 2: is something sloppy about Meghan and Harry. As much as

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Speaker 2: But I think they've got to quickly figure out that

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Speaker 2: Nobody would notice for four days, if at all. Meghan,

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Speaker 2: we're going to notice it. So I was told here

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Speaker 2: it was a miscommunication between Meghan and her staff. She

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Speaker 2: picture of a really disorganized company. Not a disorganized person,

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Speaker 2: but this company. You're a company, Megan. You're launching a

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Speaker 2: massive TV show with Netflix. Give up control, give it

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Speaker 2: are marketing experts. Did they marry a prince? No, you

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Speaker 2: all the work you've done, and I think you're really

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Speaker 2: trying to create something great here. But you've got to

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Speaker 2: learn to collaborate. It took me a while to learn this.

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Speaker 2: To Corey, I can be a little bit of a

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Speaker 3: So Hollywood's biggest ex swap saga just took another twist

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Speaker 3: that you guys know. Andrew Shoe and Merrily Fabig. I

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Speaker 2: It gets messy, it gets messy. Unfortunately, the people that

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