WEBVTT - The Farming Game

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin. One day early last spring, my producer Ben came

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<v Speaker 1>by the house with a lime green box. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is the farming game. All right, the farming game.

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<v Speaker 1>I find a stick or pease guys, so everyone gets ten.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so daunted by long instructions of board game. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not that long. They'd lose the princison small. Okay. I

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<v Speaker 1>may not love long instructions, but I do love a

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<v Speaker 1>good board game. The game board had fifty two squares

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<v Speaker 1>all around the edges, a calendar, each square a week

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<v Speaker 1>of the year. Like all board games, it was something

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<v Speaker 1>of a time capsule, history in a box. This season

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<v Speaker 1>of the last archive, we're talking about common knowledge, the

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<v Speaker 1>things everybody knows, and farming used to be the most

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<v Speaker 1>common sort of knowledge. How to grow the food you eat,

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<v Speaker 1>how to live on the land around you. That kind

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<v Speaker 1>of knowledge used to be held in communities and families,

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<v Speaker 1>passed down from one generation to the next, or from

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<v Speaker 1>one neighbor to another. But far fewer people know that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff now. When people lose that kind of knowledge, they

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<v Speaker 1>lose a sense of their own place in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>This game isn't just about how to save the farm,

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<v Speaker 1>but about how to save farming. Nice, Okay, So the

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<v Speaker 1>object of the game is well, so it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like it's it is to win, it's to make enough

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<v Speaker 1>money farming that you can quit your job in town.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's more than anything, just like not to lose,

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<v Speaker 1>because you sort of it used like start in depth

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<v Speaker 1>and then it just gets worse. The story of the

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<v Speaker 1>Farming Game is one of the craziest stories I've ever heard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got everything in it, the sixties, geodesic domes, cows.

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<v Speaker 1>So this episode Been is going to tell you that story. Ready, Ben, Ready,

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<v Speaker 1>imagine a place, a barn in the lazy fields of

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<v Speaker 1>your mind, line with shells cluttered with clues, stocked with

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<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars in play money, and all these little

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<v Speaker 1>plastic farmer figurines the boards laid out over on the table.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I'd better roll these dice. Let's see brings

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<v Speaker 1>me to fall. The second week of October nineteen sixty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>So step through the sliding barn door into an apartment

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<v Speaker 1>living room, start of the semester at the University of Colorado, Denver.

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<v Speaker 1>Move in day. Yeah, it was a two blocks off campus,

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<v Speaker 1>a little teeny apartment. We flip coin, who gets the bedroom,

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<v Speaker 1>Who sleeps in the living room? Oil, I slept in

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<v Speaker 1>the living room. That's George Rohrbacher, inventor of the farming game,

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<v Speaker 1>but not yet at this exact moment, he's creating something

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<v Speaker 1>entirely different. I was in the midst of making a

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<v Speaker 1>fringe suede jacket. I had done some things for a

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<v Speaker 1>guy and he owed me some money. Didn't have any money,

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<v Speaker 1>but he does have a couple of pieces of suede

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<v Speaker 1>that are, you know, right off the cow kind of pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd visited George and Colorado where he lives now, and

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<v Speaker 1>he got out the jacket. Okay. The guy that I

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<v Speaker 1>got the suede from had the most outrageous color of

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<v Speaker 1>suede I'd ever seen, or have seen since. This is

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<v Speaker 1>like a lurid green, purple, lime, green, purple, and orange.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it was the fringe zone this arm that

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<v Speaker 1>I was cutting. There's your timestamp, nineteen sixty nine, the

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<v Speaker 1>war in Vietnam, anti war protests on campus, Woodstock, George

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<v Speaker 1>and the amazing technicolor suede jacket, which I should say

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<v Speaker 1>it's got like a tuxedo. It's a one of a kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just put it. It's pretty awesome. Oh and tails.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you this not only because the jacket is

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<v Speaker 1>a wormhole to the nineteen sixties, but also because that

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<v Speaker 1>moment with George in his living room slash bedroom was

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<v Speaker 1>the moment his life changed. The sewing was hard work,

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<v Speaker 1>and he gotten hungry for a blt problem was he

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<v Speaker 1>had the bacon, but he didn't own a frying pan.

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<v Speaker 1>He was contemplating this when all of a sudden he

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<v Speaker 1>looked out the window and saw a girl walking by

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<v Speaker 1>on the balcony. Wow. He thought she was gorgeous. He

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<v Speaker 1>also thought she might have a frying pan. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was making a bacon, lettuce and tomato sandwich and with

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do. Well. This is prior to the invention

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<v Speaker 1>of microwaves, and the only way you cook bacon is

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<v Speaker 1>in a frying pan. And once you get the taste

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<v Speaker 1>of bacon in your head, it's hard to get it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to get it about. Yeah, George drops the Swede

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<v Speaker 1>jacket and heads next door. I was in the apartment

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone when there was a knock at the door.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Anne, the girl from the other apartment, also a

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<v Speaker 1>student at the University of Colorado. She answered the door,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, can I borrow a frying pan? She's on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone. Yeah, sure, And I handed him the frying

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<v Speaker 1>pan and he said, I'll bring it back. She gets

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<v Speaker 1>back on the phone and closes the door, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just stand there, just stunted. I was thinking, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get to know that guy. Well, first off, she's beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean beautiful, and she had this long honey brown hair.

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<v Speaker 1>She had long hair down to his shoulders head, a

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<v Speaker 1>big beard. Basically, the outside world said there was a

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<v Speaker 1>hippie and he had on overalls and he drove a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of old purple pickup truck and not not only

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful face, but one of these people. After talking to him,

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<v Speaker 1>where you realize the heart inside is every bit or

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<v Speaker 1>more beautiful than the outside. I mean you could just

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<v Speaker 1>or I could just feel it immediately. And the joke

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<v Speaker 1>is I always say I had to marry him to

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<v Speaker 1>get my frying pan back. An Roarbacker, co creator of

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<v Speaker 1>the farming game. First thing George told me the story

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<v Speaker 1>of that game is a love story. Anne went Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>frying pan, he made his blt and then later that

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<v Speaker 1>night he went back over to Anne's apartment, So George

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<v Speaker 1>came over and it was my roommate and I and

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<v Speaker 1>George proceeded to get really high and tell the entire

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<v Speaker 1>movie of King Kong, how it was made, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just all of the nuances of where it fit in society.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh my god, this guy is nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he literally told the entire movie. If you

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<v Speaker 1>ask him a story, he has to go back to

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<v Speaker 1>the very beginning, until every detail from the very beginning. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a strange. That's a strange topic to

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<v Speaker 1>spend the evening talking about with the woman that you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna ask him marry you in a week and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>But it must have worked. That's Wednesday. Thursday, George walks

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<v Speaker 1>and to class and writes her a poem. Friday, they

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<v Speaker 1>get on a plane to Seattle to meet Ann's parents. Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>George gets in a long argument with her dad, a

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<v Speaker 1>businessman and veteran, about Vietnam. A week later, George and

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<v Speaker 1>Anna decided to get engaged. This is where I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be, this is who I want to be with.

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<v Speaker 1>It was instantaneous. It was just an knowing that he's

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<v Speaker 1>my partner, he should be my partner and we should

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<v Speaker 1>do life together. Just before Christmas, the square that kicks

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<v Speaker 1>off play on the game board. They tell Anne's parents

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<v Speaker 1>they're getting married. They were not overly excited about George.

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<v Speaker 1>Her parents were horrified, But George and Anne won't change

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<v Speaker 1>their minds. Sometimes you just know. The weeks passed by

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<v Speaker 1>in a haze. Lucky rolls. Only sixes, classes, missed, exams taken,

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<v Speaker 1>papers and poems written, ringing round the board till it's June.

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<v Speaker 1>George graduates and he and Anne get married. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>summer of nineteen seventy. They decided to take a trip

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<v Speaker 1>around the country just to see where and who they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be. George comes from a family of doctors

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<v Speaker 1>and academics and always figured he'd be a professor, but

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<v Speaker 1>plans change. Anne had been working as a cleaner, and

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<v Speaker 1>they had saved up a thousand dollars. They loaded up

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<v Speaker 1>George's purple Dodge pickup truck and set off. They drove

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<v Speaker 1>through thirty seven states over the course of ten months.

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<v Speaker 1>As they wandered, they got fascinated by a new movement

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<v Speaker 1>of going back to the land. We had gotten interested

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<v Speaker 1>in the dream to the degree that we decided, well,

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<v Speaker 1>neither one of us has ever lived in the country,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we want to do that. In the nineteen seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>the environmental movement was coming of age. The First Earth Day,

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<v Speaker 1>the founding of the EPA, the most substantial legislation to

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<v Speaker 1>protect our natural environment, came all in a rush. You

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<v Speaker 1>heard all about that in the last episode. People weren't

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<v Speaker 1>just worried about what we put into our rivers and air,

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<v Speaker 1>though they were worried about what we put into our bodies.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that a very great date deal of sickness

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<v Speaker 1>is because of the refined foods. I think we're literally

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<v Speaker 1>at the mercy of the people who take all the

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<v Speaker 1>minerals and vitamins out of the sugar and out of

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<v Speaker 1>the flower. The organic food movement took off. Between that

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<v Speaker 1>and the mounting feeling that we were killing the earth,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people, especially young white college students, started

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<v Speaker 1>looking for a way to reconnect in our uncertain nuclear future.

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<v Speaker 1>The homesteading movement is once again gaining ground. They wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be self sufficient. They read magazines like Mother Earth

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<v Speaker 1>News and Whole Earth Catalog, books like Buckminster Fuller's Operating

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<v Speaker 1>Manual for Spaceship Earth and Adele Davis's Let's Get Well.

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<v Speaker 1>They ate vegetables raw from their gardens and cooked gypsy

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<v Speaker 1>soup from the Moosewood cook Book. They sang songs like

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<v Speaker 1>Joni Mitchell's Woodstock, I'm gonna cambach on the lane, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try and get NHow. Americans have been going back

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<v Speaker 1>to the land since the nineteenth century, but those early

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<v Speaker 1>movements were typically a response to economic crises. The settlers

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<v Speaker 1>were romantic but also practical, living off the land subsistence farming.

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<v Speaker 1>That was one way to be sure you wouldn't starve

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<v Speaker 1>when the next panic came. Also, it made for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of good books, movies, and of course old timey

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<v Speaker 1>radio shows like The Grandbes Green Acres Martha Martha. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>face it, the price of food wouldn't be any problem

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<v Speaker 1>to us if we'd done what I wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>five years ago and bought a fart. But the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventies back to the Land movement was different. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a response to an economic crisis like the Great Depression.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the expression of an ideal. The back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Landers wanted to make things and live in sustainable communities.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people just wanted to live in nature, but George

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<v Speaker 1>and Anne wanted to farm, and all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity fell into their laps. A friend of Anne's

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<v Speaker 1>parents bought a duck hunting club in Washington State. They

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<v Speaker 1>needed a caretaker the club, not the ducks. Basically, it

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<v Speaker 1>was four rooms, a bathroom, a bedroom, a living room

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<v Speaker 1>in the kitchen. Opened the door the place. It was

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<v Speaker 1>full of dead bugs and mosquitos. The house and the

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<v Speaker 1>duck club was a shit hole, and it was hot,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was miserable. There's really no other way to

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<v Speaker 1>describe it. Were like, what the hell, We'll take it.

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<v Speaker 1>The club was in a town called Toppenish in the

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<v Speaker 1>Yakima Valley. The Yakima is some of the most fertile

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<v Speaker 1>farmland in the United States. It can grow a spare

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<v Speaker 1>us apples, hey, corn, wheat, barley, mint, grapes, peaches, pears,

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<v Speaker 1>and cherries. The kind of land it takes eons to make,

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<v Speaker 1>worn by day and cool in the evening with plentiful sunshine.

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<v Speaker 1>An American Eden, George and Anne started a garden off

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<v Speaker 1>the shack near the creek and got jobs in town.

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<v Speaker 1>George is a teacher Anne as a bank teller. On

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<v Speaker 1>the weekends, George helped out at a cattle ranch and

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<v Speaker 1>learned about taking care of livestock and riding horses. There

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<v Speaker 1>was something that struck a chord inside me that said,

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<v Speaker 1>this makes sense. Well, it's like you eat something new

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<v Speaker 1>and it just boy, that was really good. He left

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<v Speaker 1>his teaching job to work more with the farmers in

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<v Speaker 1>the valley, learning all he could about farming. Anne stayed

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<v Speaker 1>on at the bank. They got cattle and ate the

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<v Speaker 1>food they grew from their garden. We not only like it,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're doing well at it. I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>how we want to live. I came home one day

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<v Speaker 1>from work and George said, A found a farm. It

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty seven acres in the Yakima Valley on sale

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<v Speaker 1>from an improbably named Widow. Her name was Leifa Fields.

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<v Speaker 1>They bought Lefa's place, and over the years their farm

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<v Speaker 1>did so well. They got bigger and expanded. They had

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<v Speaker 1>walnut trees and apricots in their garden, mint and alfalfa

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<v Speaker 1>in the fields. Their conquered grapes went to Welch's Juice

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<v Speaker 1>and their sweet corn to del Monte's. They worked eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>hours a day, seven days a week, at the farm,

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<v Speaker 1>at the bank, at the feed lot. They were rediscovering

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<v Speaker 1>a whole way of life that was new for them,

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<v Speaker 1>but old hat to a lot of their neighbors, and

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<v Speaker 1>the community helped them find their way. They had their

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<v Speaker 1>first child, a baby boy named Blake, and they were happy.

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<v Speaker 1>And basically since we left the Duck Club, we had

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<v Speaker 1>been on a roll where things were getting better and

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<v Speaker 1>better and better. The early nineteen seventies, those back to

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<v Speaker 1>the land years were amazing for American farmers. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know any farmer who had gone broke, gone broke his

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<v Speaker 1>back in the des Bowl era, that stretch of farming prosperity.

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<v Speaker 1>It happened under one man, in particular, Nixon's Secretary of Agriculture,

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<v Speaker 1>Earl Rusty Butts, Indiana born, raised on a farm in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen tens. Here's Butts. I don't want to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the good old days. I only want to

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<v Speaker 1>go forward. Whether Butts was really taking the country forward

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<v Speaker 1>or backwards was something people would come to argue about.

0:14:40.276 --> 0:14:43.236
<v Speaker 1>He was a friend to big agribusiness, also to Republicans.

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<v Speaker 1>He kept a wood carving of two elephants, having sex

0:14:46.276 --> 0:14:49.916
<v Speaker 1>in his office. Why because he said he was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make Republican voters multiply, and he had a terrible

0:14:53.236 --> 0:14:57.436
<v Speaker 1>sense of humor. In the postwar decades, increasing farm productivity

0:14:57.556 --> 0:15:00.156
<v Speaker 1>had already driven down the number of farms and increased

0:15:00.156 --> 0:15:03.276
<v Speaker 1>their average size. Now Butts wanted to take the trend

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<v Speaker 1>even further. He wanted to supersize American agriculture, and he

0:15:08.036 --> 0:15:11.036
<v Speaker 1>got the chance. In the early nineteen seventies, just as

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<v Speaker 1>George and Anne were buying their first farms, the Soviet

0:15:14.436 --> 0:15:16.676
<v Speaker 1>Union had just gone through a patch of terrible weather.

0:15:16.996 --> 0:15:19.276
<v Speaker 1>If they were going to eat, they needed to import crops.

0:15:19.636 --> 0:15:22.396
<v Speaker 1>The Soviets bought up a quarter of the American harvest,

0:15:22.796 --> 0:15:26.676
<v Speaker 1>billions of dollars in US grain and soybeans. Wheat prices

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<v Speaker 1>rose enormously, farm income hidden all time high. Butts had

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<v Speaker 1>found a global market for American crops. He told farmers

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<v Speaker 1>to get big or get out. Agribusinesses thrilled to the

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<v Speaker 1>spike in demand for their new herbicides, machines and fertilizers.

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<v Speaker 1>Bigger modernized farms meant bigger sales. Our challenge is not

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to morning effacian ways. Our challenge is

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<v Speaker 1>not to put more people back on the land. Our

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<v Speaker 1>challenge is to adapt to the change in situation which

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<v Speaker 1>we find ourselves. Butts's vision was part of the reason

0:16:03.476 --> 0:16:07.236
<v Speaker 1>farming knowledge began to ebb away. The emphasis on efficiency

0:16:07.396 --> 0:16:09.876
<v Speaker 1>of growing as much as you possibly could came at

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<v Speaker 1>the cost of older, more sustainable practices like crop rotation

0:16:13.956 --> 0:16:17.876
<v Speaker 1>and plant diversity. Instead of small amounts of several crops,

0:16:18.156 --> 0:16:22.156
<v Speaker 1>you got thousands of acres of just soybeans, another farm,

0:16:22.196 --> 0:16:25.956
<v Speaker 1>all corn. Butts's vision was not exactly the back to

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<v Speaker 1>the land dream, but George and Anne still benefited. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of farmers did. At least at first, the value

0:16:32.756 --> 0:16:37.076
<v Speaker 1>of farmland skyrocketed. Farmers were living well, The family farm

0:16:37.156 --> 0:16:40.316
<v Speaker 1>was becoming more like a factory, and the family farmer

0:16:40.396 --> 0:16:44.156
<v Speaker 1>took out loan after loan, uneasy credit to expand, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why when George saw a thousand acre ranch for sale,

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<v Speaker 1>he thought, why not fourteen miles out of town, four

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<v Speaker 1>miles from the next door neighbor, and you can see

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<v Speaker 1>the Milky Way, and it just felt just absolutely right,

0:17:02.436 --> 0:17:06.036
<v Speaker 1>and we said, this is where we want to raise

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<v Speaker 1>our kids. The thousand acre ranch was surrounded by canyons,

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<v Speaker 1>ninety five miles away from their old farm, across the

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<v Speaker 1>Sadus Pass, fringed by timber, off the Cascades Mountains, at

0:17:17.916 --> 0:17:20.596
<v Speaker 1>the breaks of the clicatat river, where the rocky land

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<v Speaker 1>pulls away from the water. They called it the Brake's Ranch.

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<v Speaker 1>The day they saw it, they made an offer. The

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<v Speaker 1>next day they got a call. So the house burned down.

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<v Speaker 1>It is one gone electrical fire. Consider that this place

0:17:37.916 --> 0:17:41.036
<v Speaker 1>is ten times the farm George and Anne have ever worked.

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<v Speaker 1>Consider that the farmers selling it are doing so because

0:17:44.636 --> 0:17:48.356
<v Speaker 1>they've fallen on hard times. And consider that the house

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<v Speaker 1>is now burned down. This I think was a sign

0:17:51.676 --> 0:17:54.636
<v Speaker 1>from the universe about what was to come. George and

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<v Speaker 1>Anne had the chance to fold up the board and

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<v Speaker 1>walk away, but that's no way to play a game.

0:18:00.516 --> 0:18:04.116
<v Speaker 1>And we've been rolling fives and sixes since the day

0:18:04.156 --> 0:18:09.036
<v Speaker 1>we got off the bus. I said, well, let's go

0:18:09.236 --> 0:18:13.436
<v Speaker 1>for the place and we'll build a house. They negotiated

0:18:13.436 --> 0:18:16.236
<v Speaker 1>the price down and bought the land and also fifty

0:18:16.276 --> 0:18:18.716
<v Speaker 1>head of cattle. A neighbor lent them a trailer to

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<v Speaker 1>live in, and George started to solve the whole house

0:18:21.276 --> 0:18:24.036
<v Speaker 1>situation In a very George way. Well, it's like the

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<v Speaker 1>fringe jacket, you know. And there was a contractor in

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<v Speaker 1>Yakima who was actually building two geodesic domes at the time.

0:18:33.716 --> 0:18:37.276
<v Speaker 1>For the uninitiated, a geodesic dome is a structure popular

0:18:37.316 --> 0:18:40.716
<v Speaker 1>in the sixties counterculture, involving lots of triangles fit together

0:18:41.076 --> 0:18:43.516
<v Speaker 1>in the shape of a dome, and you can put

0:18:43.556 --> 0:18:46.636
<v Speaker 1>the walls in tie anywhere you want them because they're

0:18:46.676 --> 0:18:49.396
<v Speaker 1>not holding up the roof. The roof is holding up

0:18:49.396 --> 0:18:53.716
<v Speaker 1>the roof. George was a dreamer. He believed everything could

0:18:53.756 --> 0:18:57.436
<v Speaker 1>be done, and he was right. He was right most

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<v Speaker 1>of the time. They bought the dome Easter weekend of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy six, with their one year old looking on.

0:19:04.836 --> 0:19:07.556
<v Speaker 1>George and Anne put up the forty five foot structure

0:19:07.836 --> 0:19:11.596
<v Speaker 1>triangle by triangle with a bunch of friends. They moved

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<v Speaker 1>into the basement, plywood ceiling, concrete floors, with a drain

0:19:15.556 --> 0:19:18.156
<v Speaker 1>in the middle, a hose to draw water from the spring,

0:19:18.676 --> 0:19:22.996
<v Speaker 1>and absolutely no heat. You talk about back to the land,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back only six years earlier. They've never farmed in

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<v Speaker 1>their lives. Now they own a thousand acres miles from

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<v Speaker 1>the nearest person, surrounded by mountains, spiritually, geographically, financially, they

0:19:39.036 --> 0:19:47.876
<v Speaker 1>were way out there. The trouble with games of chance

0:19:48.156 --> 0:19:50.436
<v Speaker 1>is when they go your way, you think it's all

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<v Speaker 1>about you. You're lucky, or you're special, you've got the

0:19:53.956 --> 0:19:56.396
<v Speaker 1>hot hand or the mightas touch. But if you roll

0:19:56.476 --> 0:19:59.716
<v Speaker 1>the dice often enough, your average moves towards the middle,

0:20:00.236 --> 0:20:04.956
<v Speaker 1>and if you've started high, you're gonna get laid low. Well.

0:20:05.996 --> 0:20:09.596
<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, a place that normally gets five

0:20:09.676 --> 0:20:14.316
<v Speaker 1>to thirty inches of rain, we got four inches of rain.

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<v Speaker 1>There wasn't enough hay to feed the cows, and instead

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<v Speaker 1>of thirty five bushels of wheat per acre, they made ten.

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<v Speaker 1>It was nineteen seventy seven. Something like this was happening

0:20:25.516 --> 0:20:30.036
<v Speaker 1>to farmers across America. Prices were down, costa rising with inflation,

0:20:30.476 --> 0:20:32.916
<v Speaker 1>and farmers were having to take on more and more

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<v Speaker 1>debt just to survive. In the pit of my stomach,

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom is falling out. They had their second child,

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<v Speaker 1>a boy named David, and so year seventy nine kicks in.

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<v Speaker 1>We get two and a half inches of rain. Disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>The crop failed, the farm was failing. Anne took a

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<v Speaker 1>job far out from the ranch and things were going

0:20:59.196 --> 0:21:02.596
<v Speaker 1>badly for everyone. George could sense it in the local

0:21:02.676 --> 0:21:06.196
<v Speaker 1>store at the feed lot. But the middle of May

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<v Speaker 1>and she gets out of there, and I've just come

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<v Speaker 1>in for dinner, and she lets the kids loose in

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<v Speaker 1>their room, and she comes up to me and she says, Honey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pregnant again. We both knew that it was a

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<v Speaker 1>slim chance. We were staying that this. We were gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to admit the experiment failed and we were gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to give it up. Anne and George owed more

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<v Speaker 1>in interest on their debts than they could make in

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<v Speaker 1>a year. They were living in an unfinished house with

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<v Speaker 1>two kids and a third on the way. Spring turned

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<v Speaker 1>to summer and it was time to cut the hay.

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<v Speaker 1>George bailed by moonlight when the duke came up and

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<v Speaker 1>the dried out crop had a chance of sticking together.

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<v Speaker 1>On July seventh, nineteen seventy nine, he got up at

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<v Speaker 1>three am and stepped outside. There's no other lights other

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<v Speaker 1>than starlight above and the lights of my tractor. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>as as alone as a man can be, crushing pressures,

0:22:19.276 --> 0:22:24.796
<v Speaker 1>no way out kind of pressures. I am at fault

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<v Speaker 1>for this disaster. What what can I do? And for

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<v Speaker 1>some strange reason, I have no idea how or why

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<v Speaker 1>this blanked into my head. This problem I'm in would

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<v Speaker 1>make this hell of a subject for a board game.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back. It's nineteen seventy nine. Family farms

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<v Speaker 1>across America are in trouble. One farmer in particular is

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<v Speaker 1>taking it pretty hard. Crop prices are just total shit.

0:23:03.596 --> 0:23:08.596
<v Speaker 1>George Robacker, farmer in trouble, crushing debt, failing farm. Baby

0:23:08.596 --> 0:23:11.076
<v Speaker 1>on the way. It's three am, and he's out in

0:23:11.076 --> 0:23:15.356
<v Speaker 1>the field, not asleep, but still dreaming about a board game.

0:23:16.716 --> 0:23:20.876
<v Speaker 1>I finally get done bailing. Hey, eat breakfast, Go down

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<v Speaker 1>in the basement, get a scrap of sheet rock and

0:23:23.596 --> 0:23:29.396
<v Speaker 1>a framing square, and draw myself a game board picture.

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<v Speaker 1>George alone in the basement of his geodesic dome, surrounded

0:23:32.876 --> 0:23:36.476
<v Speaker 1>by thousands of acres of failing farmland, scratching out a

0:23:36.476 --> 0:23:39.476
<v Speaker 1>board game on a loose piece of sheet rock. There

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<v Speaker 1>is a fine line between genius and insanity, or sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>no line at all, And it occurs to me that

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<v Speaker 1>those four sides could beat the seasons. Okay, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>The sun is high overhead now, sapping the last moisture

0:23:57.116 --> 0:23:59.796
<v Speaker 1>from the alf Alpha. There are cows to feed, work

0:23:59.836 --> 0:24:02.996
<v Speaker 1>to do, but George is riding the lightning. He can't

0:24:03.036 --> 0:24:07.076
<v Speaker 1>stop inventing farmer figurines. Debt from the bank the Yakima

0:24:07.116 --> 0:24:11.116
<v Speaker 1>Valley at the center a board game about how miserable

0:24:11.156 --> 0:24:14.956
<v Speaker 1>it is to be a farmer. I didn't go back

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<v Speaker 1>out to the field, I didn't eat lunch. And and

0:24:19.796 --> 0:24:23.516
<v Speaker 1>comes home and it's pretty warm, the kids are fried,

0:24:24.276 --> 0:24:27.596
<v Speaker 1>and she walks in the door, and I just literally

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait for the kids to get out of the

0:24:30.796 --> 0:24:35.156
<v Speaker 1>way to tell her, I've just discovered the trap door

0:24:35.156 --> 0:24:37.916
<v Speaker 1>the way out of this mess. It had just come

0:24:38.116 --> 0:24:42.236
<v Speaker 1>like full out of his head. Here was this game,

0:24:42.356 --> 0:24:45.276
<v Speaker 1>and we got to do this, you know, this is

0:24:45.316 --> 0:24:48.876
<v Speaker 1>what's what's gonna save us. And she gave me a

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<v Speaker 1>look like, are you frigging crazy? A board game. One

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<v Speaker 1>crazy thing that's gonna see the other crazy thing. The

0:24:58.676 --> 0:25:01.316
<v Speaker 1>game works a bit like Monopoly. It starts when you

0:25:01.356 --> 0:25:04.276
<v Speaker 1>inherent land from your grandfather. Ten acres of hay and

0:25:04.356 --> 0:25:07.236
<v Speaker 1>ten acres of wheat, each represented by a little vinyl

0:25:07.316 --> 0:25:09.596
<v Speaker 1>stamp with a bale of hay or a wheat on it.

0:25:10.196 --> 0:25:12.236
<v Speaker 1>There are six farms in the center of the board,

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<v Speaker 1>each named after a real place in the Yakima Valley,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got one of them. Around the edge of

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<v Speaker 1>the board is the calendar ear blocked off by harvest times,

0:25:21.236 --> 0:25:24.716
<v Speaker 1>your hay cuttings, cherry harvest, livestock sales, and so on.

0:25:25.316 --> 0:25:27.916
<v Speaker 1>You begin with five thousand dollars in debt with a

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<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand dollars line of credit. The goal is to

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<v Speaker 1>make enough on your farm that you can quit your

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<v Speaker 1>job in town, which at the start is the only

0:25:36.316 --> 0:25:40.476
<v Speaker 1>way you're staying afloat. It is a punishing game. Typically

0:25:40.556 --> 0:25:43.596
<v Speaker 1>your debt only gets worse in the winter. You can

0:25:43.636 --> 0:25:47.316
<v Speaker 1>buy more seed or livestock or equipment, but it almost

0:25:47.356 --> 0:25:49.596
<v Speaker 1>always costs more than the cash you have on hand,

0:25:50.076 --> 0:25:53.276
<v Speaker 1>so you have to borrow and eventually either pay it

0:25:53.356 --> 0:25:57.356
<v Speaker 1>back or declare bankruptcy. But that was farming. Had to

0:25:57.396 --> 0:25:59.796
<v Speaker 1>have the debt. It is punishing. It's not fun all

0:25:59.836 --> 0:26:03.356
<v Speaker 1>the time, so we had to do balance make it

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<v Speaker 1>be possible. They spent every night working out the mechanism

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<v Speaker 1>of the game, playing it again and again. They put

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<v Speaker 1>everything they'd learned about farming into it. In harvest seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>you roll the dice to see how good your crop is,

0:26:16.916 --> 0:26:19.796
<v Speaker 1>check the harvest rate chart for prices per acre, and

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<v Speaker 1>then pull an operating expense card that tells you how

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<v Speaker 1>much it's going to cost to harvest that crop. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you land on a farmer's fate square and you have

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<v Speaker 1>to draw a card to see how your lux breaking.

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<v Speaker 1>Often something bad happens, tractor malfunction, grain embargo irs, garnishing

0:26:36.756 --> 0:26:40.716
<v Speaker 1>your wages, mount Saint Helen's erupting. All these things that

0:26:40.756 --> 0:26:42.876
<v Speaker 1>could happen to you in the game, all of them

0:26:42.876 --> 0:26:45.196
<v Speaker 1>had happened to George, Anne or one of their friends

0:26:45.196 --> 0:26:48.636
<v Speaker 1>at some point. It's a perfect model of the family farm.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also the story of their lives. But just like

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<v Speaker 1>when they got into farming, George and Anne had absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>no idea how to manufacture a board game. And at

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<v Speaker 1>the time we just thought we needed a printer. We

0:27:04.276 --> 0:27:06.556
<v Speaker 1>just thought we needed a box make your role. It

0:27:06.636 --> 0:27:08.996
<v Speaker 1>turned out nearly every part of the game needed to

0:27:08.996 --> 0:27:13.156
<v Speaker 1>be manufactured by a specialist. The folding cardboard came from

0:27:13.156 --> 0:27:16.596
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, the acreage stamps from New Jersey, the dice

0:27:16.676 --> 0:27:19.836
<v Speaker 1>from Rhode Island. One company prints the money, a different

0:27:19.836 --> 0:27:22.596
<v Speaker 1>one makes the gameboard art and another makes the board backing,

0:27:22.916 --> 0:27:25.236
<v Speaker 1>and the family still had to cut out each individual

0:27:25.276 --> 0:27:28.196
<v Speaker 1>play dollar in their basement, and our four year old

0:27:28.236 --> 0:27:33.516
<v Speaker 1>would put a rubber band around them for us. It's

0:27:33.556 --> 0:27:37.516
<v Speaker 1>August nineteen seventy nine. As George worked on piecing the

0:27:37.516 --> 0:27:41.236
<v Speaker 1>game's supply chain together, farmers around the country were sounding

0:27:41.236 --> 0:27:45.396
<v Speaker 1>the alarm about a coming crisis and agriculture. The tractors

0:27:45.396 --> 0:27:49.716
<v Speaker 1>are traveling in a caravan, honking horns, waving flags, and

0:27:49.836 --> 0:27:52.996
<v Speaker 1>sporting posters in an attempt to gather more support for

0:27:53.116 --> 0:27:57.956
<v Speaker 1>farmers across the country. Farmers drove their tractors to Washington,

0:27:58.036 --> 0:28:01.676
<v Speaker 1>DC that year to protest falling prices and rising costs.

0:28:01.996 --> 0:28:05.356
<v Speaker 1>They called it a tractorcade. Most farmers were facing a

0:28:05.436 --> 0:28:09.956
<v Speaker 1>version of George's problem. They were overleveraged, underpaid, and unable

0:28:09.956 --> 0:28:13.356
<v Speaker 1>to explain the complexities of their situation to voters who

0:28:13.436 --> 0:28:16.556
<v Speaker 1>mainly cared about keeping the price of groceries down. The

0:28:16.676 --> 0:28:21.476
<v Speaker 1>situation was only getting worse all the while George was

0:28:21.476 --> 0:28:25.476
<v Speaker 1>building his own lifeboat. It's September. If George and Anne

0:28:25.476 --> 0:28:28.036
<v Speaker 1>were going to make any money, they needed to go big,

0:28:28.836 --> 0:28:31.716
<v Speaker 1>so they sold half their Cows took out a loan

0:28:32.436 --> 0:28:35.996
<v Speaker 1>in order to run of ten thousand games. When we

0:28:36.076 --> 0:28:38.596
<v Speaker 1>say we met the ranch on it, we did board

0:28:38.596 --> 0:28:42.676
<v Speaker 1>games sell best at Christmas. December was only three months away.

0:28:43.076 --> 0:28:45.676
<v Speaker 1>Anne was due at the end of November. The middle

0:28:45.676 --> 0:28:48.636
<v Speaker 1>of September turns into the end of September, and the

0:28:48.756 --> 0:28:52.836
<v Speaker 1>end of September turns into October. But making the game

0:28:52.916 --> 0:28:56.116
<v Speaker 1>is only half the work sewing without reaping. What are

0:28:56.156 --> 0:29:00.236
<v Speaker 1>the questions, of course, when you're producing ten thousand copies

0:29:00.276 --> 0:29:02.396
<v Speaker 1>of a board game is how do you sell the

0:29:02.556 --> 0:29:06.916
<v Speaker 1>dams it? In case you hadn't noticed, George is a

0:29:06.956 --> 0:29:09.956
<v Speaker 1>born salesman. He sent a letter hitching the game to

0:29:10.036 --> 0:29:13.836
<v Speaker 1>President Jimmy Carter. Three weeks after I said the letter,

0:29:13.956 --> 0:29:18.396
<v Speaker 1>I got a mimiograph letter from underling of an underlan

0:29:18.556 --> 0:29:22.396
<v Speaker 1>saying essentially, thank you for whatever you sent to the

0:29:22.436 --> 0:29:26.556
<v Speaker 1>White House. Have a nice day a bum roll. But meanwhile,

0:29:26.836 --> 0:29:30.196
<v Speaker 1>George has started writing ads for farm magazines with information

0:29:30.236 --> 0:29:32.516
<v Speaker 1>about how to order the game, and the orders started

0:29:32.516 --> 0:29:36.436
<v Speaker 1>to trickle in. And then George had an idea for

0:29:36.556 --> 0:29:41.716
<v Speaker 1>a Hail Mary Hallo Americans. This is Paul Harvey, stand

0:29:41.716 --> 0:29:45.316
<v Speaker 1>behype on you. Paul Harvey was a radio broadcaster who

0:29:45.396 --> 0:29:50.716
<v Speaker 1>was especially popular among farmers. Everybody listened to him on tractors, trucks,

0:29:50.756 --> 0:29:54.956
<v Speaker 1>and bus radios. Probably there is no radio program American

0:29:54.996 --> 0:29:58.156
<v Speaker 1>cattle have heard more of. George dashed off a letter

0:29:58.156 --> 0:30:00.596
<v Speaker 1>to Harvey and slipped in a copy of an article

0:30:00.636 --> 0:30:03.796
<v Speaker 1>about the game from a local newspaper. The days passed,

0:30:04.276 --> 0:30:08.836
<v Speaker 1>and then miraculously, Paul Harvey talked about it on his show.

0:30:09.996 --> 0:30:12.556
<v Speaker 1>Harvey's archives are a bit of a shambles, so I

0:30:12.556 --> 0:30:15.676
<v Speaker 1>couldn't find the broadcast to confirm for myself. George and

0:30:15.676 --> 0:30:18.556
<v Speaker 1>Anne didn't hear it directly either. They found out about it,

0:30:18.596 --> 0:30:21.956
<v Speaker 1>they said, because all of a sudden their games started

0:30:21.956 --> 0:30:25.076
<v Speaker 1>to sell de lurs, and Western Farmers said that Paul

0:30:25.156 --> 0:30:28.836
<v Speaker 1>Harvey spoke about it, and so they all want one

0:30:28.876 --> 0:30:32.756
<v Speaker 1>in their store. Western Farmers Association was a big chain

0:30:32.836 --> 0:30:35.636
<v Speaker 1>of farm stores. It was late November and the game

0:30:35.716 --> 0:30:38.716
<v Speaker 1>was moving. George hitched a horse trailer to his pickup

0:30:38.796 --> 0:30:41.236
<v Speaker 1>and loaded it up with games to bring to the stores.

0:30:42.116 --> 0:30:46.676
<v Speaker 1>That Saturday. Anne went into labor Well. Laura had the

0:30:47.116 --> 0:30:51.756
<v Speaker 1>good sense and the courtesy to hold up until we

0:30:51.876 --> 0:30:54.996
<v Speaker 1>got the lid on the box and Laura was born

0:30:55.036 --> 0:30:59.636
<v Speaker 1>at home Sunday night at one thirty am. Meanwhile, word

0:30:59.636 --> 0:31:01.956
<v Speaker 1>of the game had begun to spread through the Grange

0:31:02.036 --> 0:31:05.436
<v Speaker 1>Halls farm magazines, even a story in the Washington Post

0:31:05.556 --> 0:31:08.796
<v Speaker 1>just weeks later. Within six weeks we had sold seventh

0:31:09.476 --> 0:31:12.516
<v Speaker 1>up to ten thousand copies. In the nick of time,

0:31:12.876 --> 0:31:15.276
<v Speaker 1>it looked like George and Ann were going to save

0:31:15.316 --> 0:31:26.756
<v Speaker 1>their farm. But that's after the break. In January of

0:31:26.836 --> 0:31:29.796
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty, the Farming game was starting to take off.

0:31:30.476 --> 0:31:33.476
<v Speaker 1>People magazine wrote it up. Anne and George started a

0:31:33.516 --> 0:31:36.836
<v Speaker 1>company called the Weekend Farmer Company to manage it. But

0:31:36.916 --> 0:31:39.396
<v Speaker 1>they needed this game to be more than a passing fad.

0:31:39.756 --> 0:31:42.116
<v Speaker 1>They needed it to pay for itself and help them

0:31:42.156 --> 0:31:45.916
<v Speaker 1>save their farm. So George worked up a new sales strategy.

0:31:46.636 --> 0:31:51.196
<v Speaker 1>In the wintertime, there are farm supply shows all over

0:31:51.516 --> 0:31:56.116
<v Speaker 1>the United States where farmers go to kick the tires

0:31:56.156 --> 0:32:00.316
<v Speaker 1>on the new tractor whatnot. He decided to tour the

0:32:00.356 --> 0:32:03.436
<v Speaker 1>farm shows selling the game. They bought an old fifteen

0:32:03.476 --> 0:32:06.436
<v Speaker 1>passenger Dodge van and took out all the seats. If

0:32:06.436 --> 0:32:09.516
<v Speaker 1>you packed it to the roof, it held twelve hundred games.

0:32:10.116 --> 0:32:13.396
<v Speaker 1>George hit the road and so what I would do

0:32:13.556 --> 0:32:17.876
<v Speaker 1>is I'm headed to Missoula, Montana, and I stop in

0:32:18.076 --> 0:32:21.516
<v Speaker 1>every little town on the way there. In little towns,

0:32:22.636 --> 0:32:25.876
<v Speaker 1>the people that manage the stores or did at that time,

0:32:25.956 --> 0:32:27.876
<v Speaker 1>or the people that owned the stores, and you could

0:32:27.916 --> 0:32:30.756
<v Speaker 1>walk in the front door and within a minute and

0:32:30.756 --> 0:32:33.836
<v Speaker 1>a half be talking to the owner and find out

0:32:33.876 --> 0:32:37.396
<v Speaker 1>if you could sell the game to the guy or not,

0:32:37.676 --> 0:32:41.316
<v Speaker 1>and if not, you're back on the road five minutes later.

0:32:41.996 --> 0:32:44.756
<v Speaker 1>This was how the Farming Game found its true audience,

0:32:44.996 --> 0:32:47.796
<v Speaker 1>the die hards. Somebody would play with a friend and

0:32:47.796 --> 0:32:51.116
<v Speaker 1>then that friend would order a copy. Eventually, George and

0:32:51.156 --> 0:32:53.996
<v Speaker 1>Anne set up an eight hundred number. Soon a UPS

0:32:54.116 --> 0:32:56.556
<v Speaker 1>driver was coming out to the farm most days, past

0:32:56.636 --> 0:32:59.356
<v Speaker 1>the sign reading Primitive Road to pick up shipments of

0:32:59.396 --> 0:33:02.636
<v Speaker 1>the Farming Game. In the summer, he'd bring the kids popsicles.

0:33:02.956 --> 0:33:05.676
<v Speaker 1>The eight hundred number patched straight into the house and

0:33:05.716 --> 0:33:08.756
<v Speaker 1>the phone rang off the hook. The phone was beside

0:33:08.756 --> 0:33:12.116
<v Speaker 1>our so we answered it in the middle of the night.

0:33:12.356 --> 0:33:16.356
<v Speaker 1>So sometimes you're talking the phone. Boy. It's a good

0:33:16.356 --> 0:33:19.636
<v Speaker 1>thing you cannot see. There's no video that goes with

0:33:19.796 --> 0:33:23.436
<v Speaker 1>this phone. George kept on the road to turn up

0:33:23.476 --> 0:33:26.356
<v Speaker 1>new business, but as he drove around the country games

0:33:26.356 --> 0:33:31.916
<v Speaker 1>in tow Agriculture had fallen into a death spiral. While

0:33:31.956 --> 0:33:35.396
<v Speaker 1>farmers were growing on credit in the nineteen seventies, inflation

0:33:35.516 --> 0:33:38.756
<v Speaker 1>was rising too, and the Federal Reserve decided to jack

0:33:38.836 --> 0:33:42.676
<v Speaker 1>up interest rates to slow it down. Suddenly banks started

0:33:42.716 --> 0:33:45.516
<v Speaker 1>calling in the loans they'd been so confident in years earlier,

0:33:45.836 --> 0:33:48.956
<v Speaker 1>and the farmers couldn't pay. Within the span of just

0:33:48.996 --> 0:33:52.556
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years, family farm income dropped by more

0:33:52.596 --> 0:33:56.476
<v Speaker 1>than eighty percent. In nineteen eighty one, the USDA said

0:33:56.516 --> 0:33:59.436
<v Speaker 1>about half the farmers in the country would eventually be

0:33:59.516 --> 0:34:02.636
<v Speaker 1>driven from the land. But it wasn't just the farms.

0:34:03.156 --> 0:34:06.396
<v Speaker 1>When they went all the small local businesses that sold

0:34:06.436 --> 0:34:08.996
<v Speaker 1>them seeds for the fields and feed for their livestock,

0:34:09.196 --> 0:34:12.076
<v Speaker 1>an ice cream and candy for their kids. They began

0:34:12.116 --> 0:34:17.516
<v Speaker 1>to close. Two rural communities and family farms were falling apart.

0:34:18.316 --> 0:34:22.676
<v Speaker 1>We had a nationwide economic crisis, which at the very

0:34:22.756 --> 0:34:28.196
<v Speaker 1>same time was a nationwide family crisis, because at that

0:34:28.316 --> 0:34:34.236
<v Speaker 1>time every farm in the United States had some family

0:34:35.116 --> 0:34:39.676
<v Speaker 1>roots two or three or four five generations back. So

0:34:40.916 --> 0:34:44.636
<v Speaker 1>you inherit this from granddad, and you're the dumpsome bitch

0:34:44.676 --> 0:34:48.116
<v Speaker 1>who lost it. A lot of that land was bought

0:34:48.116 --> 0:34:52.156
<v Speaker 1>by farm management companies corporations. We sometimes hire the broke

0:34:52.196 --> 0:34:55.556
<v Speaker 1>farmers from the same farms back to work it. However

0:34:55.596 --> 0:34:57.796
<v Speaker 1>bad it was for white farmers, it was worse for

0:34:57.876 --> 0:35:02.636
<v Speaker 1>black farmers. They lost their land ten times faster. More

0:35:02.676 --> 0:35:05.996
<v Speaker 1>than half a million people left rural America in a

0:35:06.076 --> 0:35:10.476
<v Speaker 1>single year. Losing a job as one thing. Losing a

0:35:10.516 --> 0:35:15.556
<v Speaker 1>farm is losing everything. It looked like death. And when

0:35:15.596 --> 0:35:19.076
<v Speaker 1>you bury the farm, a big part of your heart,

0:35:19.116 --> 0:35:22.196
<v Speaker 1>a big part of who you are about, big part

0:35:22.236 --> 0:35:33.316
<v Speaker 1>of who your family is, is dead. But it's I

0:35:33.436 --> 0:35:37.156
<v Speaker 1>can't go any deeper into that. The situation with bad

0:35:37.276 --> 0:35:40.236
<v Speaker 1>loans and low prices has gotten so bad the nation's

0:35:40.316 --> 0:35:43.596
<v Speaker 1>largest source of farm loans need big help and fast.

0:35:43.836 --> 0:35:47.756
<v Speaker 1>Ninety three thousand mid sized US farms are deeply in

0:35:47.836 --> 0:35:50.316
<v Speaker 1>debt and are on the verge of going broken. I

0:35:50.316 --> 0:35:54.796
<v Speaker 1>had a gun in the pickup. The thoughts that entered

0:35:54.836 --> 0:35:59.196
<v Speaker 1>my mind that maybe my family was better off with

0:35:59.236 --> 0:36:05.916
<v Speaker 1>me gone alive. It was terrible. But as the crisis

0:36:05.956 --> 0:36:09.076
<v Speaker 1>worse than, the farming game became a kind of advert

0:36:09.116 --> 0:36:12.076
<v Speaker 1>becacy tool and a way for farm families to find

0:36:12.156 --> 0:36:15.796
<v Speaker 1>some relief from their troubles. A North Dakota mental health

0:36:15.836 --> 0:36:18.716
<v Speaker 1>program used the game to help farmers relieve stress and

0:36:18.756 --> 0:36:22.796
<v Speaker 1>talk about their problems it while it became a body

0:36:22.796 --> 0:36:26.156
<v Speaker 1>of knowledge, a chronicle of a disappearing way of life,

0:36:27.116 --> 0:36:31.676
<v Speaker 1>but maybe also a way to save it. A lady

0:36:31.676 --> 0:36:35.276
<v Speaker 1>in southern California whose family was in the citrus business,

0:36:36.196 --> 0:36:39.556
<v Speaker 1>was given the Farming Game for Christmas, and when she

0:36:39.756 --> 0:36:44.916
<v Speaker 1>played it immediately she saw the ability to teach the

0:36:44.916 --> 0:36:50.876
<v Speaker 1>basic economics of farming and just the social superstructure in

0:36:50.916 --> 0:36:55.316
<v Speaker 1>which the business is set. The lady worked for an

0:36:55.316 --> 0:36:59.556
<v Speaker 1>advocacy group for women in agriculture. In the mid nineteen eighties,

0:36:59.716 --> 0:37:02.316
<v Speaker 1>they decided the country needed to know about the game.

0:37:02.916 --> 0:37:05.516
<v Speaker 1>They flooded the halls of the Capitol with hundreds of

0:37:05.556 --> 0:37:09.556
<v Speaker 1>board games, one for each member of Congress, five and

0:37:09.636 --> 0:37:12.756
<v Speaker 1>thirty five games in all, trying to explain what was

0:37:12.836 --> 0:37:17.316
<v Speaker 1>happening to farmers. The board game didn't get any laws passed,

0:37:17.636 --> 0:37:20.156
<v Speaker 1>but it was making its way out into the world,

0:37:20.436 --> 0:37:23.156
<v Speaker 1>sharing the hardships of farming and the joy of it.

0:37:23.636 --> 0:37:27.356
<v Speaker 1>Right when the country hit a crisis of understanding, schools

0:37:27.356 --> 0:37:30.756
<v Speaker 1>began teaching the game in droves. According to George. More

0:37:30.796 --> 0:37:34.116
<v Speaker 1>than three thousand classrooms in North America have used the

0:37:34.156 --> 0:37:36.796
<v Speaker 1>game in one way or another to teach kids about

0:37:36.796 --> 0:37:39.636
<v Speaker 1>what it means to run a farm. I talked to

0:37:39.676 --> 0:37:42.476
<v Speaker 1>a slew of agriculture teachers and they all said the

0:37:42.516 --> 0:37:46.116
<v Speaker 1>same thing. The game was a perfect teaching tool because

0:37:46.116 --> 0:37:49.316
<v Speaker 1>it was fun and it was true. It got passed

0:37:49.316 --> 0:37:52.436
<v Speaker 1>along one year to the next, spread from classroom to

0:37:52.476 --> 0:37:56.756
<v Speaker 1>classroom like seeds on the wind. The Washington State Legislature

0:37:56.836 --> 0:38:01.076
<v Speaker 1>passed a resolution recognizing the game's educational value. When the

0:38:01.116 --> 0:38:05.836
<v Speaker 1>Soviet Union fell, the US Agency for International Development helped

0:38:05.916 --> 0:38:09.556
<v Speaker 1>bring George and the game to Russia to help teach

0:38:09.636 --> 0:38:14.196
<v Speaker 1>what privatized farming would look like. Over time, the game

0:38:14.396 --> 0:38:19.196
<v Speaker 1>sold hundreds of thousands of copies. With the money from

0:38:19.196 --> 0:38:21.636
<v Speaker 1>the Farming Game, George and Anne could keep their own

0:38:21.676 --> 0:38:25.076
<v Speaker 1>farm running, a small oasis at the far reaches of

0:38:25.076 --> 0:38:28.196
<v Speaker 1>the farm crisis. The house that we grew up in

0:38:28.716 --> 0:38:32.676
<v Speaker 1>was built up around us. Laura Rohrbacher, the daughter who

0:38:32.676 --> 0:38:35.596
<v Speaker 1>occasioned the Farming Game, She and the game they're the

0:38:35.636 --> 0:38:38.036
<v Speaker 1>same age. I don't know if you heard the story,

0:38:38.156 --> 0:38:40.236
<v Speaker 1>Like when I was born, there's this little nook in

0:38:40.236 --> 0:38:42.596
<v Speaker 1>our living room and my dad was building it, and

0:38:42.636 --> 0:38:45.036
<v Speaker 1>my mom said, Okay, I'm gonna have this baby, stop building,

0:38:45.076 --> 0:38:47.116
<v Speaker 1>so clean up your mess. And then my dad never

0:38:47.156 --> 0:38:49.116
<v Speaker 1>finished that little nook. You can still go there, and

0:38:49.116 --> 0:38:52.916
<v Speaker 1>they're still like insulation sticking out around all the kids.

0:38:52.956 --> 0:38:55.196
<v Speaker 1>Remember the phones, how the ring of the eight hundred

0:38:55.276 --> 0:38:58.236
<v Speaker 1>numbers sounded different than the other two lines. The order

0:38:58.276 --> 0:39:01.636
<v Speaker 1>sheets printed in triple kit posted by each phone ring

0:39:01.716 --> 0:39:04.716
<v Speaker 1>all hours. So back then, like eight hundred number twenty

0:39:04.716 --> 0:39:07.516
<v Speaker 1>percent just rang into our house and all the kids dispute.

0:39:07.556 --> 0:39:09.516
<v Speaker 1>We're going off the wall like doing whatever were doing

0:39:09.596 --> 0:39:12.596
<v Speaker 1>and just monkeying around, and my dad would yell before

0:39:12.636 --> 0:39:14.676
<v Speaker 1>enco phone, it's a money call. It's a money call.

0:39:14.876 --> 0:39:18.996
<v Speaker 1>Quiet down, And of course we wouldn't. And so then

0:39:19.236 --> 0:39:21.836
<v Speaker 1>my dad's trying to take a farming game order on

0:39:21.916 --> 0:39:25.036
<v Speaker 1>the phone as he's crazy. Noises are in the background,

0:39:25.036 --> 0:39:28.436
<v Speaker 1>and we would hear him say, oh, congratulations, you're the

0:39:28.476 --> 0:39:32.596
<v Speaker 1>ten thousand schollar this week or something. We're all celebrating

0:39:32.636 --> 0:39:35.076
<v Speaker 1>here in the office, and it's just us kids yelling

0:39:35.076 --> 0:39:39.436
<v Speaker 1>and screaming in the background. Farm kids are born into jobs.

0:39:39.796 --> 0:39:42.436
<v Speaker 1>Farming game kids the same. When they got to be

0:39:42.476 --> 0:39:45.636
<v Speaker 1>eight or so. They started taking the calls themselves if

0:39:45.636 --> 0:39:47.436
<v Speaker 1>you didn't feel like taking an order, but you were

0:39:47.436 --> 0:39:49.596
<v Speaker 1>the one closest of the phone, you know, your brothers

0:39:49.596 --> 0:39:51.356
<v Speaker 1>would scatter and you'd beat the one standing there with

0:39:51.436 --> 0:39:54.476
<v Speaker 1>a phone's ringing, so you'd answer the phone, Hello the

0:39:54.516 --> 0:39:58.796
<v Speaker 1>weekend for her company, and your old voice. Yes, oh

0:39:58.836 --> 0:40:00.956
<v Speaker 1>that's a great question, but this is a shipping department.

0:40:01.076 --> 0:40:03.836
<v Speaker 1>Let me get you sales, and you put them on hold,

0:40:04.116 --> 0:40:09.796
<v Speaker 1>and then you say, mom, the phones for you. The

0:40:09.876 --> 0:40:13.716
<v Speaker 1>house was full of games, cardboard boxes for forts, hundreds

0:40:13.756 --> 0:40:17.236
<v Speaker 1>of dice, millions of dollars in play money. But the

0:40:17.276 --> 0:40:20.676
<v Speaker 1>house itself was a kind of wonderland too. At Christmas

0:40:20.676 --> 0:40:23.516
<v Speaker 1>they'd get these gigantic twenty foot trees and nail them

0:40:23.556 --> 0:40:27.076
<v Speaker 1>straight into the floor. They lived year round in nature,

0:40:27.476 --> 0:40:30.716
<v Speaker 1>watching the seasons turn, shading one into the other. At

0:40:30.756 --> 0:40:33.436
<v Speaker 1>each corner of the game board, you get just enough

0:40:33.476 --> 0:40:36.476
<v Speaker 1>snow to pull the sleds out and sled down the

0:40:36.516 --> 0:40:39.276
<v Speaker 1>horse pasture. You know that's right next to like this

0:40:39.476 --> 0:40:42.036
<v Speaker 1>little creek that when the snow melts it fills with water.

0:40:42.076 --> 0:40:44.396
<v Speaker 1>And you get to get to sticks and pretend they're

0:40:44.396 --> 0:40:46.716
<v Speaker 1>fishing poles and then just pass out as the waterfall

0:40:46.796 --> 0:40:49.316
<v Speaker 1>that pours down, and in the spring it rages like

0:40:49.356 --> 0:40:51.156
<v Speaker 1>you gotta keep little kids away from it. And then

0:40:51.476 --> 0:40:53.316
<v Speaker 1>by the end of summer it's totally dry and you

0:40:53.356 --> 0:40:55.516
<v Speaker 1>just have like a rocky bet. I mean, there's just

0:40:55.876 --> 0:41:01.676
<v Speaker 1>you can explore forever, just right outside the door. That

0:41:01.876 --> 0:41:04.556
<v Speaker 1>life is why George and Ann but everything they had

0:41:04.596 --> 0:41:07.436
<v Speaker 1>on the game a long shot to let them raise

0:41:07.476 --> 0:41:11.676
<v Speaker 1>their kids in Nature ten Nature. They were an idiosyncratic

0:41:11.716 --> 0:41:15.596
<v Speaker 1>farm family, but other farm families, even ones who didn't

0:41:15.636 --> 0:41:19.196
<v Speaker 1>live in geodesic domes, have always been the game's biggest audience,

0:41:19.836 --> 0:41:23.476
<v Speaker 1>And during those hard years when rural America was coming apart,

0:41:24.036 --> 0:41:27.036
<v Speaker 1>they were playing it in so many kitchens, with the

0:41:27.076 --> 0:41:29.876
<v Speaker 1>table cleared and the bright green of the Yakima Valley

0:41:30.036 --> 0:41:33.276
<v Speaker 1>laid out under the ceiling lamp, the dark outside shrouding

0:41:33.276 --> 0:41:36.876
<v Speaker 1>an ailing farm, the family imagining what a lucky role

0:41:36.916 --> 0:41:40.036
<v Speaker 1>would feel like, or a bumper crop, or a bad

0:41:40.076 --> 0:41:46.476
<v Speaker 1>thing you could laugh at instead of cry. Those moments

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<v Speaker 1>are the game's true legacy, and they aren't recorded for posterity,

0:41:51.156 --> 0:41:53.396
<v Speaker 1>but George glimpsed one of them one year during the

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<v Speaker 1>crisis when he had left his family at the ranch

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<v Speaker 1>to head out on the road selling the game at

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<v Speaker 1>an agricultural exposition in Montana. And I'm sitting behind the

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<v Speaker 1>booths waiting for a customer to walk by, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a crowd of bill milling around. And at

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<v Speaker 1>the back of this crowd was this absolutely gigantic guy farmer. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>he is eyeball in the booth and eyeball in me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm thinking, boy, what's on his mind. If it's

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<v Speaker 1>not good, I don't want to be here. He kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of pushes his way through the crowd and he comes

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<v Speaker 1>right up to me, and he said, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>shake your hand. And I am a hooked in a

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<v Speaker 1>handshake with a oh about a six foot six, three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty pound guy who could wrestle a steer

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<v Speaker 1>and win. And he's crying. The man told George he

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<v Speaker 1>was divorced with two sons. The oldest, a teenager, had

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<v Speaker 1>been arrested not long before. When his son was home

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<v Speaker 1>from jail and was over at his dad's house with

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<v Speaker 1>his little brother, they pulled out the farming game and

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<v Speaker 1>the three of them began to play. They were laughing

0:43:10.756 --> 0:43:14.476
<v Speaker 1>and just being the kind of family you want to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And anyway, this family of three men, two little ones

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<v Speaker 1>and one giant one played the game every Sunday afternoon

0:43:26.996 --> 0:43:30.476
<v Speaker 1>and left the game where it was on the table

0:43:30.676 --> 0:43:33.916
<v Speaker 1>until the next time the boys came and then picked

0:43:33.916 --> 0:43:41.996
<v Speaker 1>it up in the middle of the game. And anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>he's still holding my hand, and he looks me right

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<v Speaker 1>in the eye again, and he said, you say my boys,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he turned around walked away. Farming is cyclical,

0:44:02.156 --> 0:44:06.236
<v Speaker 1>like the seasons, the Farming game turned out to be countercyclical.

0:44:06.996 --> 0:44:09.716
<v Speaker 1>Over the years, it became clear that it sold when

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<v Speaker 1>times were worst. It's been in print ever since nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy nine, and sales picked up both during the financial

0:44:16.436 --> 0:44:21.076
<v Speaker 1>crisis and the COVID pandemic. That first crisis, though, the

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<v Speaker 1>early nineteen eighties is when George's fate in the games

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<v Speaker 1>diverged from the fate of the American family farm. He'd

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<v Speaker 1>been in lockstep with the trends of the day, the

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<v Speaker 1>Butts agenda, getting bigger, buying on credit, planting fence row

0:44:34.316 --> 0:44:36.796
<v Speaker 1>to fence row, and then watching it all come apart.

0:44:37.276 --> 0:44:40.356
<v Speaker 1>But the game saved the Roarbockers, even while the farm

0:44:40.396 --> 0:44:43.836
<v Speaker 1>crisis drove so many other small family farmers off their land.

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<v Speaker 1>At the start of the twentieth century, nearly forty percent

0:44:47.556 --> 0:44:50.996
<v Speaker 1>of Americans lived on farms. Today about one percent Due

0:44:51.716 --> 0:44:54.836
<v Speaker 1>there are still family farms, just fewer and mostly bigger.

0:44:55.836 --> 0:44:58.476
<v Speaker 1>And in George, they had meant to make a board game.

0:44:59.356 --> 0:45:03.756
<v Speaker 1>They wound up writing a eulogy. Late last winter, I

0:45:03.836 --> 0:45:07.036
<v Speaker 1>spent a weekend with the Roarbockers in Colorado. They still

0:45:07.036 --> 0:45:10.036
<v Speaker 1>on the farm in Washington State. They live here now

0:45:10.516 --> 0:45:12.836
<v Speaker 1>in a little town in the far southwest of the state,

0:45:12.996 --> 0:45:16.356
<v Speaker 1>Mere a national forest. We talked for hours and hours,

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<v Speaker 1>but on the last night there was one thing I

0:45:19.876 --> 0:45:26.156
<v Speaker 1>had left to do, because we played the farming game

0:45:26.836 --> 0:45:30.796
<v Speaker 1>me George and Laura, her husband Tim, and her daughter

0:45:30.876 --> 0:45:39.236
<v Speaker 1>Vivian ten as hey An set it up. How my

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand dollars. Everybody starts of course, that'sn't genius. Wow,

0:45:49.996 --> 0:45:52.516
<v Speaker 1>what a great idea. We're gonna find out who admitted

0:45:52.556 --> 0:45:54.436
<v Speaker 1>the game at the end of this, Yeah, take him

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<v Speaker 1>out to the park. We began to play. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>been a farmer, so with each bumper crop or farmers

0:46:02.276 --> 0:46:04.996
<v Speaker 1>fate card I was learning some of the things George

0:46:04.996 --> 0:46:07.356
<v Speaker 1>and Anne learned from their neighbors that their neighbors had

0:46:07.436 --> 0:46:10.796
<v Speaker 1>learned from their parents. George, for his part, seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>be learning some lessons for the second or third time.

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed all you have leftist five hundred dollars. They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go bankrupt in the first ten minute. Well, I

0:46:21.356 --> 0:46:24.316
<v Speaker 1>do have a reputation of either winning or going brok

0:46:25.316 --> 0:46:27.956
<v Speaker 1>and told me earlier that George either wins big or

0:46:27.996 --> 0:46:30.436
<v Speaker 1>lose this big. That night, he was out of the

0:46:30.476 --> 0:46:33.676
<v Speaker 1>game before he'd made it around the board twice. Now

0:46:33.756 --> 0:46:37.236
<v Speaker 1>here's where your situation is. You're out of money. I

0:46:37.316 --> 0:46:45.316
<v Speaker 1>got some troubles here. Watching George and Anne play together

0:46:45.636 --> 0:46:48.836
<v Speaker 1>was like seeing the whole story in miniature. The dreamer

0:46:48.876 --> 0:46:52.316
<v Speaker 1>and the pragmatist, two ways of thinking about chance. You

0:46:52.356 --> 0:46:55.196
<v Speaker 1>expect the best or if you prepare for the worst.

0:46:56.276 --> 0:46:58.396
<v Speaker 1>I had come to their story expecting it to be

0:46:58.436 --> 0:47:01.996
<v Speaker 1>a story about the loss of agricultural knowledge that used

0:47:02.036 --> 0:47:04.596
<v Speaker 1>to be the most common kind of common knowledge there was,

0:47:05.116 --> 0:47:07.436
<v Speaker 1>And I thought when I set out that the game

0:47:07.516 --> 0:47:09.436
<v Speaker 1>was just a very sweet way to share it again.

0:47:10.556 --> 0:47:13.316
<v Speaker 1>But playing the game that night, I was thinking about

0:47:13.356 --> 0:47:19.036
<v Speaker 1>games and risks and knows unknowns. George says farmers have

0:47:19.196 --> 0:47:23.476
<v Speaker 1>to be optimists, otherwise they'd never planted a seed. The

0:47:23.516 --> 0:47:27.076
<v Speaker 1>farming game is a model of farming, but farming is

0:47:27.116 --> 0:47:30.716
<v Speaker 1>a model of life itself. They're good years and bad.

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<v Speaker 1>You can prepare, but you can't control. You live in

0:47:34.596 --> 0:47:37.636
<v Speaker 1>a world where things grow if you care for them,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you're going to play games of chance, it's

0:47:40.196 --> 0:47:43.116
<v Speaker 1>best to play them with someone else. That way, you

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<v Speaker 1>win even when you lose. I'm going to buy some

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<v Speaker 1>you can't. I was going to buy them last. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode was written and read by Ben Natt of Haafrey.

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