1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: It's that time. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 2: Time, time, time, luck and load. 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: The Michael Very Show is on the air. You're gonna 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: make a lot of money, right, yeah right, it's not yours, 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: well it becomes ours. 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 3: How is that not stealing? 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think that. I'm explaining this 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: very well. It's seven to eleven. Right. You can take 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: a penny from the tray from the crippled children. No, 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: that's the job. I'm talking about the tray the you know, 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: the pennies for for everybody, oh, for everybody? 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well those are whole pennies, all right. 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about fractions of a penny here, okay. 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: But we do it from a much bigger tray, and 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: we do it a couple of million times, So what's 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: wrong with that? 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: Has this been? 18 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 4: In a post on x, Doge said the Department of 19 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 4: Health and Human Services had terminated a contract paying Family 20 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 4: Endeavors eighteen million dollars a month to operate an empty 21 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 4: facility in West Texas. Doge also claims Endeavors received its 22 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 4: HHS contract in twenty twenty one after a former ICE 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 4: employee and Biden transition team member joined the nonprofit Endeavors 24 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 4: government disclosure forms show its revenues shot up in twenty 25 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 4: twenty one from fifty million to six hundred and fifty 26 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 4: eight million. 27 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: Has this been? Has this been? 28 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: And when you see the people are in Tennessee paying 29 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: fifty percent of their income to state, federal, and local 30 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: taxes through other you know, through everything else, fees and 31 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 3: everything else, and then they see us sending liberally billions 32 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: overseas to our enemies. You know, I've uncovered forty million 33 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 3: dollars going to the Taliban. A guy named Sean Ryan 34 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: over Middle Tennessee, former Navy seal podcaster. He and another 35 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: guy named Legend had brought this to my attention. And 36 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: you know, last term I could not even get the 37 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: Democrats to bring it up in the Senate. It passed 38 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: unanimous in the House, not even a question because they're 39 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 3: going to have to admit they made a mistake, and 40 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 3: they've continuously made a mistake, and they did it on 41 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 3: purpose is the worst part about it. And this graph 42 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 3: that you're seeing, and that's one hundred percent what it is. 43 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: I think you're going to see a paper trail come 44 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 3: back to Washington, d C. And that's why I think 45 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 3: a lot of people are nervous, and you'll see a 46 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: lot of retirements because they are stealing from the American 47 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: taxpayer and now they've got their handcott in the cookie jar, 48 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: and all they can do is attack Elon Musk. 49 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: Last week we had a couple of segments where I 50 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: asked a question, if you ended up in jail, how'd 51 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: you end up there? What befell you? What stupid thing 52 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: did you do? What ill advised? What drug or alcohol 53 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 1: induced courage did you have? What bad decision did you make? 54 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: What miscalculation did you suffer? And after the segment and 55 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: after the show, I got an email from a fellow 56 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: who wrote, I listen to the podcast, so I heard 57 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: the jailbird stuff a little late to the dance. If 58 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: you want the details, please ring me up. I should 59 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: tell you that the subject line was high I shot somebody. 60 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: So his name is Andrew McNulty And there was a 61 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: link to a story headline from KGW eight. Suspect in 62 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: Northeast Fremont Street shooting appears in court charged with attempted murder. 63 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: Officers said the suspect, Andrew McNaulty fifty eight, shot the 64 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: victim in the chest and leg. Last Friday afternoon. Andrew 65 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: MacNulty is our guest. Welcome to the program, Sir. 66 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 2: Hello Michael, how are you. 67 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm good. So you don't sound how old are you? Sixty? Now? 68 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: Sixty one? 69 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: Sixty one? You sound like you're about thirty two. Tell me, 70 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: first of all, set the stage. Where was this? 71 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: It was in my neighborhood about him, minutes north of 72 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: it's not to where I live. And I was out 73 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: for a walk middle of June two years ago, a 74 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 2: great day. It was just kind of oblivious, and this 75 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: guy pairs out of nowhere and he's a schizophrenic, homeless 76 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 2: dude on crack and meth, and he hates white people 77 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 2: and he was threatening to kill to kill white people 78 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: in the neighborhood. For months. I had no idea about 79 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: this though. 80 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: Are you white? Yeah? 81 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: I'm totally white too. 82 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: It went all over and I get that lessen a 83 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: little spye. 84 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: I got a redneck. But that's one other thing. 85 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: And so and is what is he? 86 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: He's a schizophrenic on drugs and he's really violent. 87 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,119 Speaker 1: What skin color? 88 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: Oh he's black? Sorry about that? 89 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: Okay, what's his height? White? 90 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: I only got a glimpse of him for about three seconds. 91 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: He's about my height, five ten more muscular, maybe about 92 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: two hundred and you're remember one seventy five these days. 93 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, And so you're out for a walk, 94 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: do you have headsets in? Are you in any way distracted? 95 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: Are you walking and looking at your phone? What are 96 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: you doing? 97 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 2: Probably looking at the phone. But it was such a 98 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: beautiful day. That was just totally oblivious. You know what 99 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: summers are like in Portland. It's really nice. 100 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, that's the time to be in Portland. Wow, 101 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: it's didn't then there's no sun for you know, the 102 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: entirety of the winter. 103 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 2: But for I again, dogs dogs nose is dark, wet 104 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: and cooled. 105 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: Right right now? You're by yourself. Yeah, and this is 106 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: what time of day? 107 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 2: Five fifteen in the afternoon. 108 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: Okay. I read a little bit of the story somebody. 109 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: A guy was walking his his daughter and a stroller, 110 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: and I guess the guy appeared to be approaching you 111 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: as if he was going to ask something. So so 112 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: once you recognize that this guy's coming into your space 113 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: and make going to beeline to you, what happens from there? 114 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: Didn't actually see him make a bee line to me? 115 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: That's I heard that report later too, but I did 116 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: see the video afterwards. There's the restaurant that's all happened 117 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: right in front of. They were closed, but the video 118 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: cameras are really good quality. It shows this guy really 119 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: pissed off and throwing his bag down on the picnic 120 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: table in front of the restaurant, and he sheds one 121 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: of his shirts and throws that down and then he 122 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: bows up like he wants to tear my head off. 123 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: And I just looked up at that point and I go, oh, 124 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: something's bad, something bad's going to happen right here. 125 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: And what happened. 126 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: He said I'm going to kill you. First he was 127 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: like snarling with his eyes bugged out. I guess crack 128 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: and met will do that to you. Then he changes 129 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: to looking like Jack Nicholson coming through the door in 130 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: the shining with the axe. So the grimace is there 131 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: and my eyes is zooming on his face. And that's 132 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: the worst thing I could have done, because this guy 133 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: is a lunatic. Anyway, he says I'm going to kill you, 134 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: and I just drew shot him. 135 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: How close was he to you when you shot him? 136 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: Well, I thought he was like twenty feet away because 137 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: I tunnel vision. Turns out he was about four or 138 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: five feet. 139 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, hold with me just one. This is Selvester Turner, 140 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: the mayor, and a human being VOI. 141 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: La Michael Bettyshaw. 142 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,239 Speaker 1: Probably a good time to note. 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You want to 153 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: stop the threat, like this threat that Andrew mcnultius talking 154 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: about here. I found out during the break that there 155 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: was an officer involved shooting this morning. The suspect has 156 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: been arrested multiple times. The suspect fired ten rounds at 157 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: the officers before they returned fire, and they hit him twice. 158 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: Not clear yet what his status is or if any 159 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: officers were transported. Apparently not is the first report I got. 160 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: One of the officers had only been on the streets 161 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: for four days. Welcome to policing, son. How about that 162 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: callback to your wife or your mom? Hey? Mom, how's 163 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: it going? How's being a police? Uh? It's fine. Just 164 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: be careful out there, baby, it's dangerous. I know you're 165 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: gonna say it's not, but oh I'm not gonna say 166 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: that anymore. I got shot at today by a hardened criminal. 167 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: Andrew McNulty is our guest. He was a listener who 168 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: emailed in and in Portland. A guy charged him and 169 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: you shot him from four feet away with what what 170 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: were you carrying at? 171 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: A little clock? Three fifty seven sig? 172 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: Thirty three glock? 173 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: What thirty three? Three fifty seven? 174 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: Okay, and okay, hold on, I'm having audio problems. This 175 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: is not your fault. I'm hearing you say a sig 176 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: and I'm hearing you say a glock. What are you saying? 177 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: It's glock three fifty seven sig? 178 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: Oh sick? Oh okay, I'm not familiar with that terminology. Okay, 179 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: I know glock's long trigger pull. So where did you 180 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: have the gun secreted? 181 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 2: It's on my left hip. I'm right handed, okay, a 182 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: cross straw. 183 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: Okay, And he couldn't see that you weren't open carrying. 184 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, it's Portland. I would get jumped. 185 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: Well, no, I figured, I'm just I'm trying to figure 186 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: the story out here, all right, So sorry, sorry, you've 187 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: got it talked to? What in your waistband? 188 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually my gut's a little bit too big 189 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: for it to be in there, So it's over to 190 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: the side, outside of my belt, okay, on my hip. 191 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: And as he starts charging, you reach across and draw 192 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: and pull out and are you just is it up 193 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: against your belly? Hat described for me the. 194 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 2: Shot put my hand on my waist and so there's 195 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 2: nothing between me and my body but the gun. As 196 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 2: far as charging at me, he disappeared had tunnel vision 197 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 2: at the time, so I assumed he was charging. The 198 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 2: video just shows him and I drew really quickly, so 199 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: it all happened within about three seconds. But things get 200 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: really weird when somebody tries to well, they said they're 201 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: going to murder you, and then they move sure. 202 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I've heard all sorts of different numbers 203 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: as to how fast someone is moving in the distance. 204 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: They are away, but we're never as quick to get 205 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: to our weapon, aim in fire, or get to our 206 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: weapon and fire as we think. And people close ground 207 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: a lot faster than they think. 208 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: So you're just reacting. 209 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so and so did that drop him? 210 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 2: He kept going and I don't even remember the second shot, 211 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: but I got him in the hand that time. According 212 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: to his father, he had got him four inches below 213 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: the heart with the first shot, but he was running. 214 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 2: He ran a little bit, maybe twenty twenty five feet 215 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: until down. I couldn't see him because I was just 216 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 2: focused on this little patch of bricks in the wall 217 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: at the restaurant because I couldn't see anything. 218 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: Really, So you fired two rounds? Yeah, So he stopped 219 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: charging and at that point staggers away twentyear twenty five 220 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: feet and then drops And what do you do? 221 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: Then try to get my head together. I put my 222 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 2: gun away because I figure, you're in Portland, Oregon, You're 223 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: going to freak people out. And I walked a little 224 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: bit further in the direction I was going to in 225 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: the first place, because I saw a couple of people 226 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 2: out in front of a restaurant and I asked them 227 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: to call the police, and Beefs showed up. I flagged 228 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 2: him down and had about seven pistols pointing at my chest, 229 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 2: which is pretty weird. 230 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: And so they booked you. They cuffed you, stuffed you, 231 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: took you down and booked you. 232 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. And if you're arrested on a Friday at five 233 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 2: point thirty, you're not now until Monday five point thirty. 234 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So then what happened? 235 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: Judge lets me out, says you got to put away 236 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: all your guns and AMMO and reports of the beach trial. 237 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: Pearl person. I'm not sure about the terms because I 238 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: don't get arrested usually, and they set me up and 239 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: a friends said, look, I heard about what happened to you, 240 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: to call my lawyers, and I just let the ball 241 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: in their hands because I don't know what the hell 242 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: I'm doing. What do you do the end of the day, 243 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: I'm retired. If I happened for about fifteen years, okay. 244 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: And so then are you arraigned? Are you indicted? What happens? 245 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? I went to before they let me out. The 246 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: judge told me, you know, reports of the par person. 247 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: And after about three or four weeks, my lawyers said 248 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: let's go to court, gonna We're gonna plead, just don't 249 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: say anything, let me do the talking, which was fine, 250 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: and Lud's father showed up and he called me a racist. 251 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 2: It stunk because I couldn't I couldn't open my mouth 252 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: and say anything about it, which kind of pissed me off. Frankly. Anyway, 253 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it dragged out for 254 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: about two years, and my homeowners insurance company paid this 255 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: dude three hundred thousand dollars. I had to pay him 256 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: two and a quarter about two hundred and twenty five 257 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: thousand dollars, and I spent about one hundred and thirteen 258 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: thousand and legal fees. So I think it may be 259 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: the burner would have been a good deal. Yeah. 260 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: Think. Wow. That is uh, that is disturbing. It's thank you, Andrew. 261 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: I'm glad this is over and you've been able to 262 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: move beyond it. Every single American in the course of 263 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: our lives is going to come in contact with some 264 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: nonsense like this, and it is It's frustrating because you 265 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: don't ask for it, it lands on your doorstep. And 266 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: the kind of people who do this are surrounded by 267 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: a whole support network of the kind of people who 268 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: are going to criticize you for that person's behavior, and 269 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: there doesn't seem to be a way to stop it 270 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: anytime soon. Ramon is back after two weeks off on 271 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: a road trip with his extended family, including his parents 272 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: and his sisters and their spouses. Great job to Jim Mudd, 273 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: who filled in ably. He was wearing wearing two hats 274 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: during Ramone's absence and your pet you what your pins 275 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: were reversed? Oh, you couldn't see what colored. Oh he 276 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: puts the He puts the end of the pin that 277 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: shows the color down at the bottom. So you have 278 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: to pull him out to know what. Well, you know, 279 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: if that's the worst thing he did, you know he 280 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: did work some long hours. I have to say he 281 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: worked some very long hours in your absence and did 282 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: a fantastic job. It's interesting going back and listening to 283 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: the shows, how just the change in vibe in the 284 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: types of bump music Jim plays versus Ramone, How it 285 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: gives the show a different feel. I saw a documentary 286 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: on the effects of music in setting mood in movies commercials, 287 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: and they showed a crocodile bounding along and they did 288 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: like cute see music and you know, oh he's so sweet. 289 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: I like to take one of those home with me. 290 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: And then they did another one that was like Jaws 291 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: and you go, oh boy, that's menacing. Still the same video, 292 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: but the music changed the mood and changed your processing 293 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: of that. So we're faced with the decision in this country, 294 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: and it's not going to be one decision. I think 295 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: a lot of people hope they could just vote for 296 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: Trump and it would go away. We're faced with the decision. 297 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: We are at a challenging point in this country, and 298 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: even the conversation of the challenge makes people uncomfortable. And 299 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: first of all, we're going to have to get comfortable 300 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: with discomfort. I have watched people, for instance, raise children, 301 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: and one of their children end up an extreme schizophrenic, 302 00:18:55,280 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 1: for instance, or with extreme episodic insanity, and that might 303 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: mean self harm. It could be one friend his son 304 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: started harming his wife. So the son is harming his 305 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: own mother, and my friend would have to rush home 306 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: from work because the son was about he just graduated 307 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: high school and he was eighteen or nineteen and didn't 308 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: have a job, was home all day and mom was 309 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: trying to kind of gold him into, you know, finding 310 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: something productive to do with his life, and then he 311 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: would just unload on her. And so my friend was 312 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: at wits end. What to do, you know, do we 313 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: send this guy to jail? Do we? So they refinance 314 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 1: their house and send him to these treatments And it 315 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: really never ends when you realize you're going to have 316 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: to confront this problem and it's never going to end. 317 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: It's going to be a series of confrontations that must 318 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: be dealt with. And and that's a that's a that's 319 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: a tall order. It's not it's not set it and 320 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: forget it, Ron pol Peel. It's not easy, and it's 321 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: not pleasant to know that the America we know and 322 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: love has changed. And a lot of people I hear this, 323 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 1: I sense this a lot of people. Let's take New 324 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: York for instance. New York is about to be plunged 325 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: into the awful depths of not just socialism, Socialism in 326 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: and of itself would would be would be bad. You're 327 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: going to see a form of Islamic aggression in a 328 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: way we've never seen in this country. This isn't going 329 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: to be the nine to eleven Towers now, it will 330 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: be saying, for instance, after nine to eleven, Mamdani is 331 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: giving a speech, a much younger Mamdani, and he's talking 332 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: about the devastating effects of nine to eleven and how 333 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: hard that was to deal with. And the hard thing 334 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: that he had to deal with was that they had 335 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: to be looked at as different. They had to be 336 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: looked at as being similar to the people who who 337 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: did that. Never a mention of the people who died 338 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: in the towers. Everything is a very self absorbed, self 339 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: centered He and those who follow him see the world 340 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: with themselves as the epicenter, and everything else, everything you know, 341 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: is turned on its head because it's only seen through 342 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: his eyes. And you're talking about an individual who, in 343 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: some cases was when he first entered the room, the 344 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: only non Christian, the only Muslim, the only foreign born, 345 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: the only accent, the only filling to blame. And that 346 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 1: affected him. It made him angry, It made him vindictive, 347 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: and he is determined to remake not just New York, 348 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: but this country in an image that he has a 349 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: golden image, and that image is not what Americans want 350 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: to live in. Pakistan will be Pakistan, whether we move 351 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: there or not. We just won't know how bad it is. 352 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: There are countries that are awful by our measure to 353 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: live in, but the people there don't necessarily feel that way. 354 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: They feel sorry for us because we've got promiscuous women 355 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: wearing skirts that show their legs, we have women showing 356 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: their face. How can you live in this world of sin? 357 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: What a miserable, miserable, debauched place we must be to them, 358 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: Which is fine until people start trying to remake this 359 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: country in their image. But we've reached a point in 360 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: New York. Very likely we'll find out within a few days, 361 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: but I don't doubt this that we have reached a 362 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: point in this country where entire cities are going to fall. 363 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: New York is going to fall, And a lot of 364 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: Americans believe, well, you know what, let it hmm. It's 365 00:23:53,160 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: not that simple. It's not going to happen on an island. 366 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: It's going to affect you. It's going to affect aspects 367 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: of your life. It's going to continue to creep into 368 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: your life in ways big and small. But Minneapolis, for instance, 369 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: another perfect example. You got this Jacob Fry, a little 370 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: wheezily nude who happens to be Jewish, who happens to 371 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: be a left wing progressive who happened to pile on 372 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: to the George Floyd incident and make it seem like 373 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: cops are awful and white people are awful and black 374 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: people are all just just poor, poor people. Just we've 375 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: got a bunch of white people just running around killing 376 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: black people. And that worked for him, and the Somali community, 377 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: which is a growing and very organized community, supported him, 378 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: and he used that against Whitey until the Somali said, okay, 379 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,479 Speaker 1: you're useful in this week. We're enough now. So now 380 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: they're tossing him out. They got this guy fate. This 381 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: guy's worse than Madonna. If the composition of your nation 382 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: changes so dramatically, both in raw numbers, culture, religion, values, 383 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: you're going to change the country, and you're going to 384 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: do so negatively. When you look at the immigration patterns 385 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: into this country that were once considered frightening to people, 386 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: the Irish coming into Boston, for instance, those were not 387 00:25:52,280 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: see change differences in the overall culture. They were Catholic, 388 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: which so were many Northeasterners. They were insular, to be sure, 389 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: they were clannish, to be sure, but by and large 390 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: the venn diagram of the average American of the time, 391 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: the old Boston Brahmans and the Irish immigrant was not 392 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: so different. They thought it was, but it wasn't because 393 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: you had a sense of a national spirit, a national culture, 394 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: guiding principles that were shared, and there was no divergence 395 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: from that. When the Italian mafia landed on American soil 396 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: and began spreading its tentacles, that was something America had 397 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: not seen. A crime syndicate so organized, so efficient, so 398 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: business like in operations, and so brutal in operations that 399 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: it's a wonder it was ever tamed. It really is. 400 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: The extent to which the mafia controlled swaths of land, operations, 401 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: dollars people, the number of people who lived in fear, 402 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: the number of people who were forced to fund it, 403 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: the breadth and depth of operations, the politicians they had 404 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: in their pocket. It's amazing that it was stopped or 405 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: slowed the way it was, And I would argue that 406 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: the cartels have that same capability in the South. We've 407 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: not seen the effects of the mafia the way people 408 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: who lived in Chicago and Detroit and Philly and New 409 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: York and Boston did, and how it affected every aspect 410 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: of your life, not just gunshots ringing out, but intimidation, beatings, extortion. 411 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: You owned a coffee shop or an ice cream shop 412 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: or a laundromat, You paid taxes to the government, you 413 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: paid taxes to the mafia, You ended updating the right girl, 414 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: You got your leg broken, your kid got hurt, your 415 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: car was blown up. Those sorts of things were real, 416 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: and they weren't isolated. They were a dominant culture, and 417 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: you didn't know who you could trust at what level 418 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: of government to protect. 419 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: You or to. 420 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: Punish. And now we have a series of arrows coming 421 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: into the tent from various places. The cartels are at 422 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: a point now, I think, where their operations have been 423 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: so upended that they're prone. I think it gets worse 424 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: before it gets better. First of all, the flow of 425 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: people into this country unabated was, without a doubt, their 426 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: business model. They had to have that. They had to 427 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: get contraband into this country, and they sent that through people. 428 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: The people themselves, especially the children, were contraband. So they 429 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: were selling sex. And I think we will eventually it 430 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: will be revealed to some extent, at least the degree 431 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: to which children were being tracked as sex slaves by 432 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: powerful people, by rich people within certain communities, and I 433 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: think it's going to be shocking. I think it's going 434 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: to be like when the Me Too movement took off 435 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: and you just woke up every day to see who 436 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: the next guy was it was going to fall, And 437 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be that. I think we're 438 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: going to find out that a lot of massage parlors 439 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: are not actually ramon cover years. They're not actually conducting massage, 440 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: which okay, that's probably a consensual act. But was it 441 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: consensual or was it that person's decision to be working 442 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: inside there? Are they a legal adult? What happens when 443 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:56,239 Speaker 1: things go wrong? I don't know. I don't know. I 444 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: think that we're going to see a lot of things 445 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: revealed that are going to be very surprised. The extent 446 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: to which it was almost out in the open, prominent people, 447 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: respected people, pillars of if not society, then pillars of 448 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: celebrity in Hollywood, music, media and media and film names 449 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: that you know, just look at the flight manifest of 450 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: the Epstein flights to to Orgy Island. You'll never get 451 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: me to believe that anybody was going to Orgy Island. 452 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: For any reason other than to participate in sex that 453 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: is illegal on American soil and immoral throughout the world, 454 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: and brutal. If ten percent of the stories that have 455 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: been told are true, brutal, and people who have great 456 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: degree of influence, some of them still in positions of 457 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: great influence, some of whom have been divorced over all 458 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: of this. So you've got this one element, which is 459 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:18,479 Speaker 1: the cartels and the illegal immigration. We think of illegal 460 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:25,959 Speaker 1: immigration as being Mexican, Honduran, Guatemalan. It's far more than that. 461 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: That was only one element. Then you've got people who 462 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:36,479 Speaker 1: came here to set up cells, terror cells with training already. 463 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't take very many. Look at nine to eleven. 464 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: It doesn't take very many. Look at Nadal Husaw, Nadal 465 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: Hassan who shot up Fort Hood. I don't want to 466 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: live in the kind of country where there are terror 467 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: attacks going off all the time. I was in London 468 00:32:55,240 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: when the IRA was active and there was a bomb threat. 469 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: We were in the middle of I was a young 470 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: lawyer in the middle of a meeting and there was 471 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: a bomb threat that went off, and I'm thinking, wow, 472 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: this is pretty scary. The people we were with said 473 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: not a big deal. Let's just get away from this. 474 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: We're taught to get away from the big buildings because 475 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: they are the targets. Go to a smaller So we 476 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: went and had a sandwich, made the most of it. 477 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,959 Speaker 1: You know, might as well have a sandwich. Wow, you're 478 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: at it. But I don't want to have to live 479 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: in a country where we have to constantly be dealing 480 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: with that. And then we have enough of an internal threat. 481 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: We've got a race problem on our hands and a 482 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: crime problem on our hands that we've not been able 483 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: to deal with. And you know how we're dealing with it. 484 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: We're leaving the cities. We're going to be let In 485 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: ten years, our major cities, to the extent they're not already, 486 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: are going to be uninhabitable