1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: From UFOs two, ghosts and government cover ups, histories writtled 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: the stuff they don't want you to now. Hello, welcome 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: back to the show. My name is Matt and done Ben, 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: And right off the bat, by the way, it's stuff 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: they don't want you to know. You know that you 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: clicked on the thing. You're listening to it. Some people 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: have it on shuffle, you know what I mean? Well, 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: guess what this is stuff they don't want you to know. 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: And right off the bat, today we're going to talk 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: about a thing that I got wrong, uh something that 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: I don't know why I got it wrong, but I 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: was just thinking, I think I got it wrong. Uh No, 14 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know that you did. I think 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: it was me because I just started rambling about it. Anyway, 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: we're talking about A D and B C. And I said, 17 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: I did the old thing that I guess I learned 18 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: somehow in church. I don't know where I learned it, 19 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: but the whole before Christ after death thing. Oh yeah, 20 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: and that's not at all what it is. Oh okay, yeah, 21 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: we we know this. We heard your emails and tweets 22 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: and responses, and a lot of people were really courteous 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: about this. Uh. I think we just misspoke because it's 24 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: something that we we both knew, and when we're doing 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: a casual conversation playing with live fire, Uh, some things 26 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: can slip through. But Matt, go ahead and let us 27 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: know what it what it stands for. Well, it means 28 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: Anno domini, which is actually the year of our Lord 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: a D. When you when you use a D. So 30 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: my bad, you know, Matt, Honestly, I thought we would 31 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: get a lot more listener mail from people who are 32 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: angry at us because we were exploring the history of 33 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: the Bible. It's even for having that conversation. But it 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: didn't turn out that way, at least not yet. Maybe 35 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: in a year after it's been floating around, we'll get 36 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: some of that mail. Yeah, but thank you guys so 37 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: much for listening. And today we would like to start 38 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: the podcast with a story. In nine seventy two, an 39 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,639 Speaker 1: employee at a French nuclear fuel processing plant notice something 40 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: weird about the uranium or he was working on. All 41 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: natural uranium contains three forms with different atomic masses. There's 42 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: you two thirty eight, you two thirty four, and you 43 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: two thirty five. Now, the last one is the most 44 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: desirable because this is the one that you can use 45 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: to sustain a nuclear reaction. And typically, you two thirty 46 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: five makes up only about point seven two percent of 47 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: the ore. But the sample of this guy is looking 48 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: at it had point seven one seven. Now it's a 49 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 1: small amount, a small difference. But this guy freaked out 50 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: because there's only one way that that can happen, and 51 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: that's through a nuclear reaction. So, uh, this poor guy, 52 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: of course, he as you said, he freaks out. He 53 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: lets the scientists know, you know, hey, where's this ore from? 54 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: What's going on? Because I think they have nuclear power, 55 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: uh somewhere, And the scientists trace this sample back to 56 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: a place called the Oaklow uranium deposit in the highlands 57 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: of Gabone or from part of the mind was way 58 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: way shorter of uranium two thirty five than it should 59 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: have been, As an article in Scientific American pointed out, 60 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: there were about two missing and that is important because 61 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: by way of measurement, that is enough to make about 62 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: a dozen nuclear bombs. Yeah, so what the f is 63 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: going on here? Ben? Yeah, that's what uh yeah, right right, Well, 64 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: the answer comes from much earlier prediction, and they found 65 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: as they were digging around in This happened in nineteen 66 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: seventy two, right, they find the weird uranium. In nineteen 67 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: fifty three, these two guys, George weather Hill and the 68 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: co author Mark Ingram, argued that some uranium deposits might 69 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: have once been natural versions of nuclear reactors. That's crazy. 70 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: So what they what they postulated is that somehow a 71 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: stray neutron caused this You two thirty five to split, 72 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: and then it gave off more neutrons and it caused 73 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: this chain reaction. Yeah. That last part is from a 74 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: scientists named Paul Kuroda at the University of Arkansas. There 75 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: are a couple of conditions. He said, for this to occur, 76 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: the deposit has to be at least longer than two 77 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: thirds of a meter, which would be the length that 78 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: the neutron would travel. The second thing you need is 79 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: enough YOU two thirty five. Today, most of the concentrated 80 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: deposits can't become reactors because the You two thirty five 81 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: is just too low. The concentrations too low. And today 82 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: it's less than one percent in a deposit, but two 83 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: billion years ago it could have been around three percent, right. 84 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: And next you'll need a neutron moderator of some sort, 85 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: something that can slow the neutrons given off when a 86 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: nucleus splits and make them more likely to hit and 87 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: split other atoms. And the last thing is you have 88 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: to have no substantial amount of bore on lithium or 89 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: any other substances that would absorb the atoms and halt 90 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: the reaction. So this sounds like a lot of stuff 91 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: to have happened by chance, right, Yes, it turns out 92 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: this all I actually did just happen as far as 93 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: we can tell in gabone about two billion years ago, 94 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: and not just once, but about sixteen times. So physicists 95 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: around the world studied this evidence. They looked at these 96 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: natural nuclear reactors, and they all came together to share 97 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: their work on this quote Oaklow phenomenon at a special 98 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five conference in the capital of Kimbo. And 99 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: the fossil reactor wasn't just known for uranium that I'd 100 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: like to read quote from Scientific American When they were 101 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how this could happen. Some of 102 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: the neutrons released during the fission of uranium two thirty 103 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: five were captured by the more abundant uranium two thirty eight, 104 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: which became uranium two thirty nine, and after admitting to electrons, 105 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: turned into plutonium to thirty nine. More than two tons 106 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: of this plutonium isotope were generated within the oakload deposit UH, 107 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: and the quote goes on, although almost all of this material, 108 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: which has a twenty four thousand year half life, has 109 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: since disappeared. Primarily they think through natural decay. Some of 110 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: the plutonium itself underwent fission as it tested by the 111 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: presence of its characteristic fission products. The abundance of those 112 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: lighter elements allowed scientists to deduce that fission reactions must 113 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: have gone on for hundreds of thousands of years. So 114 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: not only was this a natural nuclear reactor that just 115 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: sort of happened, but it also just sort of happened 116 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: for hundreds of thousands of years. From the amount of uranium, 117 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: they think that it released about fifteen thousand megawatt years overall, 118 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: So the average power output was a little disappointing, a 119 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: little less than a hundreds, but still that's enough to 120 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: run some toasters maybe, yeah, And two billion years ago, 121 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: toast was like the main thing man if you didn't 122 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: have toast, then, who are you get out of here 123 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: before anybody? Before anybody finishes that email, we know that 124 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: there weren't toasters, Yeah, or as far as we know, right, 125 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: Let's get it safe. So they were able to do 126 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: some forensic work on this by analyzing zenon h, a 127 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: heavy inert gas, and this gas can stay imprisoned in 128 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: minerals for billions of years, and because it's rare, scientists 129 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: can use it to detect and trace these nuclear reactions, 130 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: even those that occur in primitive meteorites before the Solar 131 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: system happened. That's uh, hold on a second, calculating understanding. Nope, okay, 132 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: so Ben, let's get to the meat at this seriously, Yeah, 133 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: how do this happened? Why? Why didn't when when it 134 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: became this more volatible version of uranium, why didn't it 135 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: just explode or decayed further? Yeah? Yeah, since we're family, 136 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: should I guess the best way to say it is, 137 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: why didn't the sleeve hit the fan? Yeah? And then 138 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: we get all the rest of the uranium up into 139 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: the fan and then just got yeah, all the change 140 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: fell out of its Yeah. Uh, that's a great question. 141 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: And from what we're seeing, at least everything we found 142 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: is that the oaklow reactors kind of regulated themselves in 143 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: a really neat way. The most likely candidate for this 144 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: regulation would be groundwater. So here's what they think happened. 145 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: They think that the nuclear chain reaction was happening and 146 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: there was water around to act. Is that neutron moderator 147 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: to slow the neutron so that they can continue the 148 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: reaction as the as the reactor or in the reaction 149 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: area maybe is a better way to say. It reached 150 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: the critical level or critical temperature, the water boiled away, 151 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: and then the chain reaction would have ceased and cooled off, uh, 152 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: to the point where water could come back, and then 153 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: it starts again. Oh, that's crazy. So it was functioning 154 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: as a nuclear reactor the way it the way we 155 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: use them now, by dipping the rods into the water 156 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: and then taking the rods out of the water and 157 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: causing the reaction. This is like, it's crazy, whoa man? 158 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: That's weird to think about that a natural process could 159 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: do the same thing that we spend hundreds and hundreds 160 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: of millions of dollars to produce. Yeah, it just happened, 161 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: and it but it did it over a long period 162 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: of time, and still that's that's mind boggling. Okay, So 163 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: when they're looking at the Oaklow reactor, they found that 164 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: it switched on for about thirty minutes then off for 165 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: at least two and a half hours. And they see 166 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: this in almost to all the deposits. So not only 167 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: is the groundwater going over it and accounting for the 168 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: self regulation, it protected these reactors from destruction. And in 169 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: this way it was really effective. Not only was it 170 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: not allowing any kind of melt down or explosion during 171 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: these kinds of years, but it was just regulating the 172 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: thing to an extent where you have this beautiful chain 173 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: reaction that they can now see. And here's another weird 174 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: thing that just happened. It stored nuclear waste really well. 175 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's something that humans still haven't really cracked 176 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: the code on. There are some amazing ideas as a 177 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: matter of fact, about how to warn future civilizations, not 178 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: necessarily humans, to stay away from nuclear waste, trying to 179 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: come up with a universal sign that anyone from any 180 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: time would be able to go okay, I'm not going 181 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: near there. Yeah, it's crazy when you think about that. 182 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: If the human race were to just die. Uh, something 183 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: happens only only a few enclaves of people are a 184 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: lot alive for a while, and then by a few 185 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: under years they've dwindled and like the last person dies. Uh. 186 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: And then buildings crumble, great stone monuments also crumble. The 187 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: season and the forest take over the cities, and eventually 188 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: the only thing that an alien civilization would see there 189 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: was a sign we were there would be nuclear waste, 190 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: which is totally like because it would be anomalous in 191 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: the natural settings. They would they would find the Oaklow. 192 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: It would it would be like stumbling upon that of 193 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: their own, our version of the oaklow reactors. Just now 194 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: they're in these weird deposits. Why is all this ranium 195 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: and plutonium over here? Yeah, And that's that's a that's 196 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: a weird thing. Because although we have not cracked the code, 197 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: we being the human species, not you and I'm at um, 198 00:11:54,679 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: we do know that this proves a tremendously efficient nuclear reactor, 199 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: if not a tremendously powerful one. And that's where we 200 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: go to the crazy stuff. Because we have been saying 201 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 1: for the entirety of this podcast, and all of that 202 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: just happened or didn't. Oh, don't, don't doom. So here's 203 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: the deal. Uh. We talked about this in the vlog 204 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: when we were covering this, and in the vlog we 205 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: talked about how they buried the lead and when these 206 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: scientific American articles and they said, um, well, what maybe 207 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: we should just do the quote. Okay, here's the quote. 208 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: The oaklow reactors may teach scientists about possible shifts in 209 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: what was formerly thought to be a fundamental physical constant, 210 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: one called alpha, which controls such universal qualities as the 211 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: speed of light. Boom, I. I I can't think of an 212 00:12:51,720 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: appropriate sound effect. Maybe our superproducer Noel has one. H Yeah, 213 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: that's it. That's the perfect one, because that is mind blowing, 214 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: the idea that all of these constants we perceive in 215 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: the universe may not be as constant as we think. 216 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: You know, do they change if you're in another neighborhood 217 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: of reality? It's possible. But we have to remember this 218 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: is one one version, one one subject, one time that 219 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: we're noticing that this constant isn't the same, right, right yep. 220 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: So any of you out there, you know, shrugging and 221 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: going oh god, they don't understand the just note that 222 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: we we do understand that this is one instance of 223 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: a constant that seems to not be the same right 224 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: speed of light. It just sounds so emo. Now they 225 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: just don't understand the speed of light. Um, yeah, it's true, 226 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: and it's it's a really good observation because what we're 227 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: finding is, uh is bizarre because we know that now 228 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: a reaction like this probably wouldn't occur in the wild. 229 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: There's simply not enough uranium in those deposits. So well, 230 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: how how did it work differently? Was there just more 231 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: you two thirty five in these deposits? Did it somehow 232 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: take less of it? Did nuclear reactions I don't know 233 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: worked differently. What we're seeing is that the fundamental concepts 234 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: of the glue binding the spine of the universe into 235 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: a book may just be non existent or as you said, 236 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: just in our neighborhood or Ben, here's the best theory. 237 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: What if this is a sign of ancient technology. What 238 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: if this was made this way? What if what if 239 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: aliens or what if we're the aliens who found the 240 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: nuclear waste? You know, are we a butterfly having a dream, 241 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: et cetera? Right, Yeah, yeah, I can't remember. I'm kidding, 242 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: We do remember the whole quote, but but it is 243 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: a nice way to flip the perspective. So, yeah, what 244 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: it was somehow made. Here's the deal. If it was 245 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: made by people, and if ancient history is remotely true, 246 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: then uh, people would have to be around way longer 247 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: than we thought. It's if this thing really is two 248 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: billion years old, then there's no one we know of 249 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: who would be capable of doing that. People weren't around, 250 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: We were just a twinkle in the Universe's I unless 251 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: it's been so long since the previous iteration of intelligence 252 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: on this planet, Ben that we didn't find anything, like 253 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: you said, but the uranium deposit, which is weird because 254 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: that from what we know about the formation of the Earth. Yeah, 255 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: whomever was surviving, right, who would be intelligent enough to 256 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: create a nuclear reaction? They had to be some hard 257 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: cases because Earth was a brutal place and billions of 258 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: years ago. I just I don't know. We we received 259 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: some interesting letters from people before about doing an ancient 260 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: technology podcast, and we know that a lot of the 261 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: skeptical folks listening to the audience will roll their eyes 262 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: and say this is not worth it. But newsflash, Uh, 263 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: there there really has been ancient lost technology that was rediscovered, right. No. Yeah, 264 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: you can look at the anti Cathera mechanism. We we 265 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: talked about that before in a video podcast a long 266 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: time ago. Yeah, I'd love to do an audio show 267 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: about that. Then you even got the Greek fire right, yeah, 268 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: that is uh that was a weapon that the Greeks 269 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: would use and the secret of making this was lost 270 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: for a very long time. That's not the only example, 271 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: of course, we can have an entire other show about 272 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: historical or archaeological and achronisms, you know, things out of time, right, Yeah, 273 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: Baghdad batteries, which I think was used for silver plating, 274 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure. We'll wait for it, sorry, matt um. 275 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: So we want to know what you think. Now we've 276 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: gotten we've gotten some great letters about especially in uh 277 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: South Asia areas, Pakistan, uh Bangladesh, India. We've gotten letters 278 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: about various descriptions of what maybe ancient technology, and we 279 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: know that historically India is a powerhouse of um brilliant innovations. 280 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: You know a lot of If you're not familiar with 281 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: some of the history of inventions and concepts that come 282 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: from South Asia, then you know taking afternoon off. Tell 283 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: your Bossory, and I'll learn about the world. Yeah. Right, 284 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: doesn't everybody get a day off to learn about the 285 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: world at least the day. And we'd like to know 286 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: your suggestions of what sort of ancient technology we should 287 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: look at, and if you think it is possibly tell 288 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: us this. Uh. Do you think it is possible that 289 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: being that humanity as we know it has gotten the 290 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: entire story of history? Wrong? Uh? And when I when 291 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: I say that, what I mean is, do you think 292 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: it's possible that there could have been some other civilization 293 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: that was responsible for um, nuclear reactors? Because it looks 294 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: like everything we see, it looks like these just happened 295 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: as ridiculously weird as that sounds, and if you have 296 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: to be explained perfectly, but they've been explained adequately at 297 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: least for me. Yeah. Yeah, it seems like just the 298 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: lottery of strange coincidences and just right moments, unless that 299 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: is somehow an intelligent force made them. But then the 300 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: question would be why haven't we seen any thing else? 301 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: Because you know, Ben, I hear that there are no coincidences, 302 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: at least that's what I hear. I got a fortune 303 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: cookie that said that one time that was a weird 304 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: moment in my life. So I was like, oh, this 305 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: is also not a coincidence. Yeah, you ever have them, 306 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: those days where everything seems laden with meaning and symbolic 307 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: and stuff all the time. It happens to me when 308 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: I don't get enough sleep, which is all the time. Alright, guys, 309 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: so right to us. You can find us on Facebook, 310 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: you can find us on Twitter. We are at conspiracy 311 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: Stuff on both of those. 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