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Speaker 2: You're listening to to Goatsen Company. The Great Mike Greenberg

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Speaker 2: He has made that my favorite NFL pregame show. By

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Speaker 2: the way, Well, Greedy, you give the energy and the

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Speaker 2: There are twenty four organizations better than the Jets.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I'm saying. Pick a team.

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Speaker 1: It's very Wayne Wade.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's half the mountain.

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Speaker 3: There's my guy right there.

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Speaker 2: Riley also on the Lakers, Greenie, no Riley.

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Speaker 3: There are twelve people who are on more than one

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Speaker 3: That's a huge deal. Of course he belongs on that.

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Speaker 4: If his broadcasting career didn't continue with the Mets, then

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Speaker 2: So with you there, go ahead, Mikey Greeney, I want

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Speaker 3: What they have to.

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Speaker 3: I think the Yanks are number one overall. The Yankees

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Speaker 3: Gott's here's the thing I'll say, because I don't want

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Speaker 3: to talk about other things today too.

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Speaker 1: No, you go ahead.

439
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 3: Yes, I love sports history. I grew up reading about

440
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,400
Speaker 3: sports books, and I have, as I know you do,

441
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 3: and appreciation and love for sports history. So I cannot

442
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 3: stand it when I'm listening to a sports arts talk

443
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 3: show and I hear the hosts say, well, I don't

444
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,959
Speaker 3: really know much about Oscar Robertson. He was before my time.

445
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,119
Speaker 3: Now answer me this. If you were listening to a

446
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 3: political show and the guy hosting it says I don't

447
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,919
Speaker 3: know much about FDR. He was before my time. You

448
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 3: stop listening immediately, right. If you don't know the history

449
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 3: of what you're talking about, then how do you have

450
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,119
Speaker 3: any perspective, how do you have any context? So what

451
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,199
Speaker 3: I think will make people interested in the book, what

452
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,360
Speaker 3: I hope will make people buy it is they want

453
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 3: to see who we chose for number one and number

454
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Speaker 3: seven and argue over whether we got the right Mount Rushmore's.

455
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Speaker 3: But what I like about it is that I write

456
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Speaker 3: about the history of all of these franchises, explaining why

457
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 3: they're number one, what it is that they have accomplished,

458
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,160
Speaker 3: because in the case of the Green Bay Packers, they

459
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 3: go back to the nineteen twenties, and you know there's

460
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Speaker 3: stuff there, like Vince Lombardi is on their list, Bart

461
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 3: Starr is on their list. Most modern sports fans didn't

462
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 3: see those guys. They know the name Lombardi because it's

463
00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,959
Speaker 3: the name of the trophy. You know that they get

464
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Speaker 3: out to the Super Bowl champion. But I love writing

465
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 3: about and talking about sports history. So whether you agree,

466
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 3: anyone who buys the book, first off, thank you. Second

467
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 3: of all, whether you agree or disagree, you will learn

468
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 3: stuff because Himbo's research is unbelievable. So there is stuff

469
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 3: in here about literally every team and every one of

470
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Speaker 3: the legends that we chose that I promise you will

471
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Speaker 3: not have already.

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Speaker 1: So you're teaching some people too.

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Speaker 3: That's nice sports history. Look, we live in a time

474
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Speaker 3: now where there's not a lot of good discourse, right,

475
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 3: Like knowing your history has been more important than ever. Yeah,

476
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 3: we don't argue, well, but what I hope is that people,

477
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 3: you know, you could open a beer and you could

478
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 3: debate with someone whether Elgin Baylor should have been on

479
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 3: this list ahead of Kareem Abdul Jabbar with the Lakers.

480
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just a perhaps one bad example that

481
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 3: I just chose, but you know what I mean, And

482
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 3: that's the kind of argument. Look, that's sort of our

483
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 3: place in life. That's how I've always seen my my

484
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 3: If I can make some contribution, it's giving people a

485
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 3: little bit of a respite from everything else, And let's

486
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 3: sit down and argue about something that means absolutely nothing.

487
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 2: And is justin fields on the Jets Mount rush.

488
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 3: Mork, he's not even on this season's Mount Rushmore. He

489
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 3: had one good game and a loss. And here's how

490
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 3: tragic and pathetic our lot in life is. As a

491
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Speaker 3: Jet fan. There was a week there, more than a

492
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Speaker 3: week there. So so here I'm going to tell you

493
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Speaker 3: exactly how STWO got to watch that game, because it's

494
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 3: how I watched that game. Yep, that first game, every

495
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 3: time he dropped back to pass, I yelled at the

496
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 3: television run run I didn't want. And then every time

497
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 3: he threw it, I was like, oh my god, he

498
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 3: can do that, Like, holy smoke, this guy's actually we're good.

499
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 3: And then I spent week saying, oh my god, our

500
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 3: offense is good. Tanner Engstrom is a genius, and Justin

501
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 3: Fields we have finally found the key to unlock him.

502
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 3: And then the Buffalo game comes, and if the Jets

503
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,959
Speaker 3: team bus had been re routed and not ever arrived

504
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 3: at the stadium, that would have been exactly as competitive

505
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 3: as it was. It would have been equal levels of competition.

506
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 3: And it's done. And then of course justin Field since

507
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 3: his head, and that's it. And then we play this

508
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 3: ridiculous game against Tampa where for three quarters we look horrific.

509
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 3: Then we start to come back and Aaron Glenn, who

510
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 3: I am inclined to like because he was a good player,

511
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 3: and I think he cares about the Jets, you know,

512
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 3: because he played for us and whatever. But I really

513
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 3: am not interested after that game in hearing about how

514
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 3: we fought back, how proud you were, Like that drives

515
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 3: me crazy when coaches say it anyway, like as opposed

516
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 3: to what yes, like we fought back, there was no quit.

517
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: What do we quit?

518
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 3: Like? What does that even mean? Like we just an option,

519
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 3: we get it, Let's just take a knee and go home.

520
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 3: That's not No one does that. So we got a

521
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 3: couple of lucky breaks, we got back in the game.

522
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 3: Then we get a miracle befalls us. We block a

523
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 3: kick and run it back for a touchdown. And I

524
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 3: promise you that Stu Gott said the same thing I

525
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 3: said in that moment, which is, we definitely lose this

526
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: game on a field loss as the clock expires one

527
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 3: hundred percent. Your coaches the game on a field goal

528
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 3: as the clock expirers Greeny.

529
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Speaker 2: I turned to my wife, this is the life of

530
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 2: a Jets fan. That should be a moment where I'm celebrating.

531
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Speaker 2: I'm excited. I turned to her and I said, the

532
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 2: game's over, And she said, what you want and I said, no,

533
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 2: Baker's going to drive the field to break our hearts.

534
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Speaker 1: The game is over.

535
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Speaker 2: I told her Will McDonald should have fell at the

536
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Speaker 2: twenty five yard line.

537
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Speaker 3: Well, see, the thing is, we needed a touchdown to

538
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Speaker 3: take the lead, so we should have fallen at the

539
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 3: one yard line. Not sure we get in. It is

540
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 3: actually a really interesting question do you at that moment

541
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 3: do you take Do you take the knee on the

542
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 3: one yard line and run the risk of not scoring

543
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 3: at all versus giving the ball back to Baker Mayfield.

544
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Speaker 1: Jets can't do that.

545
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 3: He did the right thing. I can't blame Will McDonald.

546
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: I could have lived without Aaron Glenn getting up there

547
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 3: after we have seen three weeks of the dictionary definition

548
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 3: of what same old Jets means and getting up there

549
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 3: and saying we're not the same old Jets. Don't tell

550
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: me that. Just win a game. For the love of Chrison,

551
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 3: even know what the old Jets are. It's ridiculous, you know.

552
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 3: I found the stat He's the third consecutive Jets head

553
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 3: coach to start Owen three in his first season, like

554
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 3: him and Sala and Gase all started their Jets tenures

555
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 3: oh and three it's like they're done before they even begin.

556
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 3: It's horrific.

557
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 4: Greeny, you mentioned when you were talking about sort of

558
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 4: the betting world and how it's obviously a part of

559
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 4: the sports media world now we have to talk about it,

560
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 4: and so it reminded me of sort of whoever it

561
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 4: was some people blame Mike Wilbon, whoever opened up the

562
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 4: door for journalists to admit who they are of right,

563
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 4: and it made me wonder, like A, when you felt

564
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 4: the green light and just like, I'm good with the Jets,

565
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 4: I'm going to say I'm a fan from the beginning

566
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 4: or was there a point where that changed? And B like,

567
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 4: what was your origin story on on being a Jets fan?

568
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 4: Because Stu gave us his and it was basically just

569
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 4: based on geography, which is like most people, Well, it.

570
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: Was on geography che Stadium and the Jets were just

571
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 2: good enough with the sack exchange of Richard Todd to Sucker,

572
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 2: the sack extent.

573
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: I forgot about that.

574
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: Mine my second The second part of that is much easier.

575
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: I was born into it. My parents were season ticket

576
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 3: holders before I was born. The backstory on that is

577
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 3: that my dad grew up in the Bronx, and when

578
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 3: he got out of law school, he wanted to get football.

579
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 3: He liked. He was a crazy Yankee. I died a

580
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 3: crazy Yankee fan, and I guess probably liked to the Giants.

581
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 3: But when he got out of law school, the waiting

582
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 3: list for New York Giants season tickets was like twenty years.

583
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 3: He married my mother. The New York Titans started in

584
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: the American Football League in nineteen sixty they got tickets,

585
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 3: and to hear my mother tell the story, in nineteen

586
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 3: sixty five, they drafted Joe Namath and that was it.

587
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 3: My mother would have left my father for Joe Namath,

588
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: and my father would have one hundred percent of approved

589
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 3: of that decision. So the Jets I was born into,

590
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 3: there was never an option the way I got. I

591
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 3: was actually outed as a Jet fan by Robin Roberts.

592
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 3: I'm Sports Center so the Jets. I was hosting a

593
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 3: Saturday morning Stu Gotts will remember the game. The Jets

594
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 3: were playing a Saturday night playoff game in Oakland.

595
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: I remember, yeah, Mikey will remember that game.

596
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 3: Yes, that morning, I'm hosting the morning Sports Center on

597
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: that Saturday morning with Robin Roberts and I would most

598
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 3: certainly never have acknowledged being a fan of any team

599
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 3: at that time. But I wore a green tie just silently.

600
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: I'm just wearing a green tie and say nothing. Robin

601
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 3: on the air says, at one point, we have one

602
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 3: of those little, you know, sort of planned brief moments

603
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 3: of chit chat in between the highlights that they used

604
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: to be on Sports Center, and Robin says, can't help,

605
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: but notice the green tie there. Green, I guess you're

606
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 3: looking forward to that Jet game tonight. And I was terrified.

607
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, this is going to

608
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 3: ruin my career. She's Robin, she's a superstar. She's leaving

609
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: in like two weeks to go be the host of

610
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 3: Good Morning America. And I'm going to get fired because

611
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 3: now you know. And then when we started the radio show,

612
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 3: when I started working with Mike on a show that

613
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: at that point was called The Morning Show on ESPN

614
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: Radio and ultimately became called Mike and Mike. As we

615
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: were going along, I realized, like, what kind of show

616
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: is this going to be if I'm not going to

617
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 3: talk about who I'm rooting for, Like you can't do

618
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,479
Speaker 3: a radio talk show. And just like be pure, purely

619
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 3: analytical and and a political or whatever the word is.

620
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: Well on you once you once you delve into radio,

621
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: into sports talk radio. This happened to Lebtard. I told

622
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: him this would happened to him. Are you throw your

623
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: journalistic integrity away?

624
00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: Okay, you can't do it.

625
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 3: What the hell is the purpose? Like why am I there?

626
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 3: Like you know, like we're all here for the same reason.

627
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 3: So then we started talking about it, and the Jets

628
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 3: were actually they they were decent. Like we started Mike

629
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 3: and Mike and they had a couple of good years

630
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 3: we got we got first the Herman years where we

631
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 3: had a few good years with Herman, with Vinnie and

632
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 3: and that that run. And then uh, then transitioning to Chad,

633
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 3: who was really good, and we had this whole stick

634
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 3: on Mike and Mike that I love Chad, which I did,

635
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 3: and I continue to say that if he didn't hurt

636
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,959
Speaker 3: his shoulder, he would have been a great player. And

637
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 3: then uh, and then you know, not long after that,

638
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 3: we had Mangini who built a really good team and

639
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 3: Rex took that team to back to back AFC Championship game.

640
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 3: So for the majority of the of like the first

641
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 3: half of Mike and Mike. The Jets were pretty good. Yeah,

642
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: so they were worth talking about a lot, and then

643
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: they became what they've become, and that.

644
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: Was sort of the Roberts fault. Interesting.

645
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he should decaid. Listen, I'm just it's a Greenie,

646
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 2: that's what.

647
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I still have the tie.

648
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: Actually, is Mark Sanchez on the Jets? Mount Rushmore?

649
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: Is? He is? Not? You want to guess the Jets.

650
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: I mean he should be, can't the last one the Jets,

651
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: But the Jets he knows. I want to guess the Jets.

652
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 3: I appreciate your being worried about me and your concerned.

653
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 3: There's one hundred and twenty four teams in here.

654
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: Which has to be on there.

655
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: Of course, right, I'm sorry name it has to be

656
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: on this, Yes, of course, go ahead.

657
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: Misery, pain, clothing and sacrifice. Yeah, there you go. There,

658
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: there's there's my Jets.

659
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: Mount Rushmore.

660
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: Let me think about this, gast No if paid longer,

661
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: you know gas, you know, people forget.

662
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 3: Maybe you saw the thirty for thirty. It reminded a

663
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 3: lot of people. He retired prematurely. He played a very

664
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 3: short career comparatively. His peak was sky high, but he

665
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: did not play long. He retired very young. Wow, Curtis

666
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: mart So Curtis Martin was was the hardest one to

667
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 3: leave off the Jets. I'm giving it away. If I

668
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 3: say the Jets five Hall of famers, we left off

669
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 3: one of them, and that was Curtis Martin.

670
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: It's the other four, Okay, So Revis is on there.

671
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: Yes, I think that Darrell Revis. This is my personal opinion.

672
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 3: I don't even think it's a hot take. Darrel Revis,

673
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: while he wasn't a Jet as long as some of

674
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 3: these others, Derell Res was the single best player the

675
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: Jets ever had. I think he was. He was. He

676
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 3: was the best defensive player in the sport for a

677
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 3: period of time. The fact that he didn't win Defensive

678
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: Player of the Year that year they gave it to

679
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 3: Charles Woodson is ridiculous. So name it is obvious. Revs is, yes,

680
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: clout Yes.

681
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: Who's the fourth Hall of Famer on the Super.

682
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 3: Bowl team sort of forgotten by a lot of people

683
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: is don Don Maynard was was was a Hall of

684
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 3: Famer and and you know was was name its primary

685
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 3: target and was a genuinely you know, put up numbers.

686
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 3: If you look at Maynard's at a time when the

687
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 3: league did not have passing numbers the way they do now,

688
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 3: they still look pretty good.

689
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: Yes, it's funny because Raheem most who does a show

690
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: on this network, the Raheem Moster Show with ste God

691
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: He asked me yesterday it's a weird show.

692
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm proud to say that sentence.

693
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: Actually, Raheem Mostard asked me for my mount Rushmore of

694
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: sports talk.

695
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: Radio host and I gave it to him.

696
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: Now, Greedy, feel free to put yourself on there. Feel

697
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: free to put me on there if you like I

698
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: gave him Mike and Chris, I will let you do

699
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: the other. Like they count out one or two, I

700
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: get well, Mike, Mike counted as one, Russo counted as

701
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: as a second.

702
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: Okay, that's what I meant. So you can't. Mike and

703
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: the mad Dog have to be on there. So you

704
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: can either put them on together or they either take

705
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 3: up one spot or two spots as well.

706
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and make it one spot for you, make

707
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: it one spot for you.

708
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 3: I think I think no, I think if you're doing

709
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: sports talk radio, I think Mike and I should be together,

710
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: Like I don't. I don't. I wouldn't be there without him,

711
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 3: and he wouldn't be there without me. I think I

712
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 3: would put Mike and Chris together, and I would put

713
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 3: Mike and me together.

714
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: Okay, so who would be the other two for you?

715
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: I think I think he's gonna go like Eddie Engelman.

716
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: I know he is.

717
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I mean it depends on what you're

718
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: basing this on. Not necessarily the ones I enjoyed listening

719
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 3: to most, but the ones who are the most important. Like,

720
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 3: I think you have to put Jim Rome on it.

721
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: I put him on there.

722
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, he's got to be on it because like

723
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 3: Jim Rome, like when we started doing Mike and Mike,

724
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 3: the the rap was nationally syndicated. Sports can't work, It'll

725
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 3: never work anywhere, and Rome was sort of the argument

726
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 3: against that pretty much throughout the entire West Coast. He

727
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 3: was doing really well and he was doing it before

728
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 3: we were. He should definitely be on there.

729
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 1: Yep.

730
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 3: I'm not sure who the fourth is, like like I think,

731
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 3: like I know, I mean, there are people who I've enjoyed,

732
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 3: but I'm trying to think, like who else would would

733
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: have had like that kind of impact? Like someone like

734
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 3: Dan Patrick, would it be Dan, Like he's got to

735
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 3: be inconsidered. I'm afraid I'm gonna forget, like I'm gonna

736
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: leave out.

737
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 4: I was gonna say stut goats in particular, because both

738
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 4: Levitard and who did you just mention Dan Patrick both

739
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 4: started off elsewhere, right, it wasn't through radio and one Jonathan.

740
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: Weed radio guy.

741
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 4: I mean, no, no, no, they belong.

742
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: I was, I was a radio guy before I was

743
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: a TV guy, became a TV guy and then went

744
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: back to radio, but I started in radio. No, I

745
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 3: would say, like that show to me, it's more a

746
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,959
Speaker 3: show like it would be like you guys show would

747
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 3: definitely be in the conversation. I don't know shows as

748
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: shows like I'm not separating you from Dan and I'm

749
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 3: not separating you know, Mike from me, and like there

750
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 3: is no there's no one of us is into the show,

751
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like people would probably put

752
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: Colin there, like Colin obviously and still doing it at

753
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 3: a high level, so I think he probably would. So those,

754
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 3: I mean, all of those are worthy of consideration. Like

755
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: it's it feels very immodest to like say, Mike and

756
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 3: I should be on there. I think we did things

757
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: like I don't know how these things are calculated. I mean,

758
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 3: I think if you just think about people who sort

759
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: of made a difference in the way the business was,

760
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 3: I think Mike and I would have to be considered

761
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 3: because I think we did do that. I think you

762
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 3: guys were there at the peak.

763
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 4: To me, it was the peak of sports talk period,

764
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 4: Like it was as good as not as good as

765
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 4: it gets, but just the most popular it was going

766
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 4: to get, the most sort of embraced it was going

767
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 4: to get, and you guys were right in the center

768
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 4: of it. And like for anybody growing up in that

769
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 4: period as a sports fan will remember you forever.

770
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: I think what we did aged well too, because I

771
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: think most sports talk show hosts became popular by being

772
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 3: by being very hot take oriented. And I think what

773
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: the thing that people would criticize Mike and me the

774
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 3: most for which was not being hot takeing enough, being comparative,

775
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 3: not being hard and fun people, not all that stuff.

776
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 3: I think age is well. I think after a while,

777
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: you know, the other stuff kind of becomes white noise

778
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: and having something that's a little friendlier and a little

779
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 3: more based in humor and a little more family oriented,

780
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 3: like Mike and I like sports talk in those days

781
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 3: was very guy talk, right. It was a lot of like,

782
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 3: you know, chicks and all that kind of stuff. And

783
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: Mike and I didn't make a concerted decision. We weren't

784
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 3: going to be that. It's just not who we were.

785
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: We were two married guys with kids and all that

786
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. And I think that that also ages

787
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: well in the scheme of things. So I think, I

788
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 3: think what Mike and I did, you know, and look,

789
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: not too many people do eighteen years, So I think

790
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 3: that stuff. I think. I think if you're putting together

791
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 3: a list like that, I think putting Mike and me

792
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: on it.

793
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 4: Relatability age as well, Yes, well, no year's factor in.

794
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 2: I mean Dan and I did twenty, Michael and Madog

795
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 2: did roughly twenty.

796
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: Those guys did eighteen, so year certainly factor in. Greeny.

797
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: It's such a great sports weekend coming up here.

798
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: If I had to pie chart your interest between Ryder Cup,

799
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: NFL and college football, how much of that, like, what

800
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 2: percentage is going towards the Ryder Cup?

801
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: Because I know you love this thing the way I.

802
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 3: Did, So if I if I wasn't doing the job

803
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 3: I'm doing now. I would spend the weekend completely immersed

804
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: in the Ryder Cup, but I got to host the

805
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: football show on Sunday, and we do our production meeting

806
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 3: on Saturday, so I will be kind of tied up

807
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: with my NFL stuff. And I also, you know, I've

808
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,479
Speaker 3: got to host the morning show Monday, in which which

809
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 3: will be ninety percent football, ten percent Ryder Cup. So

810
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 3: for all of those reasons, I'll be more much more

811
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 3: in tune to what's going on in the football, then

812
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 3: I will be the Ryder Cup. I but that's not

813
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 3: the right answer to your question, because you're asking me,

814
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: is how into it I am? And the answer is

815
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 3: very into it. Here's what I think. I think if

816
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 3: they played this on a neutral site, Europe has an

817
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 3: enormous advantage, Agreed. I think. I think if you just

818
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: line it up man for man and everyone plays their best,

819
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 3: Europe wins nine out of ten times. But I think

820
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 3: the venue in this, as we have seen historically, the

821
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: venue matters, and this venue in particular matters, yes, all

822
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 3: the way to the point that I'm actually nervous, like

823
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 3: I really hope, like go root for the Americans, scream

824
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 3: and yell heckle up the European I have zero issue

825
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: with that, but please don't do anything that interferes with

826
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 3: the play. Please don't yell in someone's backswing. Please don't

827
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: do that. That's the stuff that scares me is you're

828
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 3: going to get some of that, right, And because there's.

829
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 2: A million of me to this event, right, what's that

830
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: there's a million of me going to this event?

831
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, And I worry that some of them don't

832
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 3: really appreciate the golf like they're they're just this is

833
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 3: something to do and it's a place to go, and

834
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 3: we're going to be drinking, and we're all very like,

835
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 3: you know, this is a very USA US, a kind

836
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 3: of time in our history. And so we're gonna go

837
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: out there and we're gonna do our part. We're gonna

838
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 3: yell in Rory McElroy's backswing, and somehow we're going to

839
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 3: feel like we've accomplished something. I really, really I implore you,

840
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 3: if you are listening to this conversation and you are

841
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 3: contemplating that, please don't do it. Let these Let these

842
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 3: guys who are the best in the world playing the

843
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 3: greatest game ever invented, play at the best they can

844
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 3: and let the best team win.

845
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: I just realized that it was at Bethpage.

846
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 3: I didn't even know that.

847
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 4: Like, that's right into your guys's backyard, isn't it insane?

848
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 3: I play that course all the time, right, that's good.

849
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: That's what Greenie's worried about. That me and all my

850
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: friends are going to be there screening.

851
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 3: It's gonna be nuts, right, It's gonna be nuts.

852
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: Have you played that course?

853
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 3: Yes? I've never been to a Ryder Cup though, and

854
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 3: I will say this. Everyone tells me it's an awful

855
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 3: spectator experience because you got fifty thousand people a day there,

856
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 3: and there are four holes being used at a given time.

857
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 3: So outside of like the Sunday singles might be good

858
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 3: because you've got twelve matches going on, but on Friday

859
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 3: and Saturday, you've got four holes in use at any

860
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 3: given time, and you have fifty thousand people that are

861
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 3: going to be there to try and see it. So

862
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 3: I don't people. So many people have asked me, are

863
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: you going to the Ryder Company. I always say no

864
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 3: because I have to do the football, And that's true.

865
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 3: If I couldn't go, even if I wanted to but

866
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 3: I wouldn't go even if I could. I think watching

867
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: it on TV would be way, way, way better than

868
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 3: going to it.

869
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: I went to Augusta. I went to the first two rounds.

870
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: It was great, fantastic, sat there with my dad. Didn't

871
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: look at my phone. You can't look at your phone.

872
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: You can't bring your phone in there. We had some beers,

873
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 2: we had a great time. I would never ever go

874
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: to Augusta on Moving Day or on Sunday.

875
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: I just agree, you gotta watch it at home.

876
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 3: That's it. I actually think golf may be the most

877
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 3: of anything because the action is spread out all over

878
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 3: the places that you can't even see. But I think

879
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 3: that the experience of watching any sporting event on television

880
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: has now surpassed the experience of attending it, no doubt,

881
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: with the only exception of if you are a hardcore,

882
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: super passionate fan of a team and that team is

883
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 3: playing an enormously important game, then maybe being there would

884
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 3: be a thrill Like I remember, I mean the tragically

885
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 3: what remains. The last Jets home playoff game was in

886
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 3: January of two thousand and three. Stop and think about

887
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 3: that a minute. That's the last time the Jets play

888
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 3: and they beat the Colts forty They beat Peyton Manning

889
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 3: forty one. Nothing but think about that for a minute.

890
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 3: My son when that game was played was a month old.

891
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 3: He graduated from college in June. That's the last time

892
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 3: the Jets had a home playoff game. My son, Steven

893
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 3: graduated from college two months ago. Three months ago. He

894
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 3: was a month old the last time we played a

895
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 3: playoff game at home. It's impossible.

896
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: When you think about over in December, it's done. They're

897
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: not home.

898
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 3: They have played playoff games. He actually has seen the

899
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 3: playoff games. He was old enough to have to have

900
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 3: been rooting for an enjoyed the Rex teams, but none

901
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: of they'd played zero home. That's why Mark Sanchez. It's

902
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: a remarkable distinction. Mark Sanchez has more road playoff wins

903
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 3: in his career than Peyton Manning.

904
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

905
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 3: He won four playoff games on the road, which is

906
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 3: actually a very very large number historically.

907
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 4: Mike, he looks so sad right now. Even these accomplishments

908
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 4: are sad to think about.

909
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: Well, I think of his poor son.

910
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's terrible, that's just terrible. Did he give

911
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: a choice at least did you tell him not to

912
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: be a Jet fan.

913
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 3: No, no, he look, I mean he was born into it,

914
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 3: just like I was born into it. I'll tell you

915
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 3: a tragic story. My son was doing his junior year abroad.

916
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 3: He was in Prague the night of the first Aaron

917
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 3: Rodgers game, and he's getting everything. So we figured out

918
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 3: pretty quickly he's streaming and he wakes up at like

919
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 3: whatever time it is, like four in the morning Prague,

920
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 3: time to watch this game, or I think stayed up.

921
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 3: I forget what it was, but it was the middle

922
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 3: of the night and he watching the game on his

923
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: computer and we figure out pretty quickly that he's getting everything,

924
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: like forty five seconds to a minute after I am

925
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: so I can't text him anything that happens. I got

926
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: to wait for him to react to something and then

927
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 3: I can text him the Rogers things happened, The Rogers

928
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 3: thing happened. Exit h go to sleep right now, like

929
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 3: turn it off. I'm begging you, as your father, please

930
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 3: go to sleep, turn this off. You don't want to

931
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 3: know what's about to happen. Like there, there was a

932
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: sixty second period there, whereas his father, I know that

933
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 3: something tragic is about to befall like something and I

934
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 3: am powerless to do anything about it. It was the

935
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 3: most helpless feeling I ever remember having.

936
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: He would have missed the walk off punt return though,

937
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: I mean.

938
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we watched that game, and God, what

939
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 3: a night that was.

940
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: I forget it.

941
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 2: We were one to oh and we all thought maybe

942
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 2: we could do this without Arab Rodgers, but we can't.

943
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 3: Didn't think that for a second. That was the worst.

944
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 3: That was the that was honestly, in a lifetime of

945
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: very low points, that might have been the lowest, because

946
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 3: like all of the hope and all of the hype

947
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 3: and all of the build up. I mean, if you

948
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 3: think back to the amount of time we spent thinking

949
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 3: and talking about the the arrival of Aaron Rodgers with

950
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 3: the Jets and what it could mean and hard knocks

951
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 3: and everything else, and it lasts four plays Like that's

952
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 3: if you wrote that into a script, you would never

953
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 3: get it published, or you would never get it you

954
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 3: would never get your movie made because everyone would say,

955
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 3: that's much too unrealistic. There's no way in the world

956
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 3: the guy gets hurt on the fourth play. So that

957
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 3: was in a lifetime of terrible moments, I think that

958
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 3: might have been the worst.

959
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: Next I knew he was going to have. Then you

960
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: knew he was going to have a game when he

961
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: returned to the Jets as a Pittsburgh Steeler. That's the

962
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: game we were waiting to see him.

963
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 4: But next time you come on, Greenie, if you come

964
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 4: on with us again, I want to do like a

965
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 4: formal debate Lincoln Douglas. However, whatever rules you want to do,

966
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 4: you versus me, who's more mis Dolphins fan over the

967
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 4: last let's say thirty years or Jets fans? Because I

968
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 4: think I think it's an actual reasonable debate.

969
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: You scored seventy points games.

970
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 3: But it's a it's a it's a much. I'm fifty

971
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: eight years old, so there's no comparison. I remember the

972
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: the David Woodley super Bowl where they lost to Riggins,

973
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 3: and I remember, Look, you got dam the Jets passed on.

974
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: I'm going to end this debate right NOWT and the

975
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 3: Dolphins got him. That's the end of the conversation.

976
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 4: Also, on your defense, you don't look fifty eight, so

977
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I didn't know you had those extra years

978
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 4: to complain about.

979
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: Got your legends. Get it wherever books are sold. It's

980
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 2: a great idea. I'm upset I didn't come up with

981
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: it and.

982
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: Write at first.

983
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: Greenie did with Hembo. It's fantastic. I'm tempted to guess

984
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: the Dolphins on.

985
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: The way out. It's gotta be Yeah, it's got to

986
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: be Shula.

987
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: Gotta hold on, let me get to their page here,

988
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 3: give me a second. Dolphins. Dolphins is going to be

989
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 3: pretty high because they their their peaks were very high.

990
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, very high.

991
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 3: Uh, here we go, okay, okay.

992
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 1: So I'm going to say, is he helped me out here? Shulo?

993
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: Definitely right? Yes, Marina.

994
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: I haven't even gotten to the page, and I can

995
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 3: tell you yes, Shula Marino. Zanka uh not Zanka. Wow.

996
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 4: They can't be anybody from the last thirty years.

997
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: It could be Jason.

998
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 3: Taylor, Taylor, it is Jason Taylor.

999
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1000
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 3: And there's a Hall of Fame quarterback that you're forgetting. Oh,

1001
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 3: Bob Greasy, Yeahler, Bob Greasy is in the Hall of Fame,

1002
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 3: Like Bob Greasy is one of the most forgotten. Like

1003
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 3: you know again, it's a function of my age, Like

1004
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 3: I remember when Bob Greasy was one of the best

1005
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: quarterbacks in the NFL, and because people remember that those

1006
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 3: teams A for the no Name defense and B because

1007
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 3: of Zanka and Kick. I think to some degree Greasy

1008
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: gets It's completely forgotten. Also because in the perfect season

1009
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 3: he missed a lot of that year and moral played.

1010
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 3: But Greasy is a Hall of Fame quarterback. I think

1011
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: he belongs on that list. I couldn't come up with

1012
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 3: any other You could have gone Zankazka.

1013
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 4: Over Jason Taylor just because he played in an era

1014
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 4: where they didn't really win anything.

1015
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: Right, Maybe Warfield, I mean maybe Warfield.

1016
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 3: We considered strongly Zach Zach White Stevenson was an all

1017
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: time great offensive lineman, but his career was pretty short.

1018
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 3: If I'm remembering, I'm trying to do all these things

1019
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 3: from memory now. How we landed on the people that

1020
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 3: we landed on.

1021
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 4: There's not that many options when you really like start

1022
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 4: going down like war.

1023
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 3: And and the hardest one to choose. We thought the

1024
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 3: first three were obvious. You have a Hall of Fame

1025
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 3: quarterback has to go on the list, and you have

1026
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 3: two of them. And Shula is the winning as coach

1027
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 3: in the history of the sport.

1028
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't hear the Jets and you have two Hall

1029
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: of Fame quarterbacks.

1030
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 3: Get out of here? Is it? Yeah? It's pretty That

1031
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 3: pretty much ends the discussion.

1032
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: I was letting them go because you had to go. Mikey.

1033
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: Hey, all right, Greedy, get out of here. Got your

1034
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: legends wherever books are sold. Check it out about very

1035
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: very well. Check them out on get up, check up,

1036
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: check them out everywhere on countdown to kickoff, getting you

1037
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: ready for this Sunday's action. He'll be thinking about the

1038
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 2: Ryder Cup, but he'll be talking about the NFL. Greedy,

1039
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for doing this, man good the CFL.

1040
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 3: It has been too long. I'll see you soon.

1041
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: Always good to see you, buddy. Thank you,