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On the latest edition 2 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: of the Bloomberg Surveillance podcast, Tina Fordham Fordham Global Insight, 3 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: single best idea on a Wednesday, a quiet summer Wednesday. 4 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: I looked at the news, I'll say, at one am, 5 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: and then you know, you try to wake up from 6 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: the surveillance night sleep, and the news flow was absolutely 7 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: extraordinary and it's really where our many news bureaus payoff. 8 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Ethan Browner let us off today from Tel Aviv was 9 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: just absolutely fabulous on what we saw in Beirut and 10 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: in Tehran and many many other stories, including the FED 11 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: coverage today to go to. But all of it was 12 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: simply about a continued equity. Let I have no idea 13 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: where that's going. Buller beear Gina Martin Adams showed up. 14 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: She has been absolutely brilliant about a revenue slowdown, in 15 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: organic sales growth slow down. Not too optimistic it's coming back, 16 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: but huge margin strength seen by numerous corporations, and of 17 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: course we've seen that with Microsoft yesterday even though it's off, 18 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: and with Google. And we'll see what Meta and the 19 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: rest do here in the coming hours. Ben Snyder holds 20 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: Court at Golden Sachs with David Costin. We asked him 21 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: about the persistency of the moats around AI. 22 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: It's important to remember before anyone was focused on the 23 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: AI investment boom of the last year and a half 24 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 2: or two years, these stocks have outperformed for most of 25 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: the last decade. And they've done so because they have 26 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: great business models. They have motes, they have above average 27 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: revenue growth, and they have profit margins that are two 28 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: or three times those of the rest of the S 29 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: and P five hundred, So that means a lot of 30 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: cash flow generation and they've successfully re invested that cash 31 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: flow to fuel successive growth. 32 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: Ben Snyder had a seventy two page deck. Again, we 33 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: protect the copyright of all of our guests. Please go 34 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: to Golden Sachs to get the great work that they're 35 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: doing there on the equity markets. Great. At the end 36 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: of it, the Lincoln Costin's work with Ben Snyder and 37 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: of course with Abby Joseph Cohene who was recently with 38 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: us now at Columbia Business School. What else do we 39 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: do on single best idea today? We had like fourteen options. 40 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: I'm kidding, maybe it's only nine options, but the answer 41 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: is we had to address our international relations and some 42 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: would say are fractured and certainly dynamic international relations. Paul 43 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: Senior was great. We were through all the different plots 44 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: that you can talk about, all the news and the zeitgeist, 45 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: and Paul Sweeny just said, simply to Tina Fordham, what 46 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: about Ukraine. Here's Tina Fordham Fordham Global insight on Ukraine 47 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,279 Speaker 1: into August of twenty twenty. 48 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: Four in zone summer. I think yesterday Russia launched its 49 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 3: sort of biggest drone attack on Ukraine for some months. 50 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 3: It's also the height of the summer fighting season, and 51 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 3: I'm arguing that the period between now and November and 52 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 3: maybe until Inauguration Day in January next year is going 53 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: to see an uptick in geopolitical risk. And that matters 54 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: for your listeners because they're all watching the FED. Conflicts 55 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: are inflationary and this is the time to you know, 56 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: to go for it. 57 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: And to that point, and I'll go back to I 58 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: think it was February twenty four, two years ago. Our 59 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: first interview on Ukraine was Davidlanda at Deutsche Bank and 60 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: the first thing out of doctor focarts Lando's mouth was 61 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: there will be a fiscal oomph, that the austerity of 62 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: Europe will end and there will be the spending that 63 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: Tina Fordham talks about there too years over two years 64 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: on as well. I want to talk about one concept here, 65 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: on single best idea that's important, and it's sort of 66 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: an ugly chart. Like if I say the yield, the 67 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: yield on the nominal visible tenuere yield, or even if 68 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: you adjust for inflation and you call it the real yield, 69 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: they're not really elegant, well contained charts. The real yield 70 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: is more elegant than the nominal yield. So if I 71 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: say the yield's in a range which I think we 72 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: all understand, and if the yield comes down to the 73 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: support of that range, will it break through? Something changed 74 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: today into this FED meeting. I have no idea what's 75 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: going to happen at the press conference, but a questionnaire 76 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: into August is do we finally see the yield on 77 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: the nominal ten year or the inflation adjusted ten year 78 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:04,559 Speaker 1: break down into new disinflationtionary territory and that ambiguity over 79 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: why that's occurring, including slower US or global economic growth, 80 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: and of course that gets back to China. Just some 81 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: of the mysteries into August of two thousand and twenty four. 82 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: We're out on YouTube. Subscribe Bloomberg Podcasts. I can't say 83 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: enough about it. 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