WEBVTT - BREAKING OVERNIGHT:  "He Took His Own Life Tonight"; Brown Shooting Suspect Found Dead

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, that folks did is Friday, December nineteenth, and a

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<v Speaker 1>breaking story overnight. Police say that the man responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>the mass shooting at Brown University is dead. But the

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<v Speaker 1>other new information is they say he's also responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>killing an professor. And with that, welcome to this because

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<v Speaker 1>a little early and breaking episode here of Amy and TJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Ropes for whatever reason was we were going to bed

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<v Speaker 1>last night, we said, hey, we're probably gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>hop up again on early there was some sense that

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<v Speaker 1>they were about to get this guy last Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>They were teasing the news media, so to speak, earlier

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<v Speaker 2>in the evening saying we think we have our guy,

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<v Speaker 2>we think we know or we've identified our person of interest.

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<v Speaker 2>And we went to bed around nine something last night,

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<v Speaker 2>and everything broke wide open in the hours that followed

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<v Speaker 2>into the early hours of this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we wake up this morning and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of you are going to be waking up and getting

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<v Speaker 1>this news that, yes, the person responsible for the shooting

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<v Speaker 1>at Brown University had left two students dead another nine injured.

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<v Speaker 1>And we found out the person responsible for the shooting

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<v Speaker 1>death of an MIT professor two days after that shooting

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<v Speaker 1>was the responsibility all of that one man they have

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<v Speaker 1>now identified as Claudio Manuel Nevis Valente, forty eight year

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<v Speaker 1>old man, who was found dead of a self inflicted

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<v Speaker 1>gunshot wound and of all places, a storage facility in Salem.

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<v Speaker 3>New Hampshire.

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<v Speaker 1>This story, I guess we're getting the details and starting

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<v Speaker 1>to piece this together now, but it was kind of extraordinary,

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<v Speaker 1>and right now we don't have a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 1>answers as to why.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we know a few connections that police have been

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<v Speaker 2>able to string together. But it's even fascinating how they

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<v Speaker 2>caught this guy in the first place. You woke me up,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I turned over at two am and you said, babe,

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<v Speaker 2>they got him, and he killed the MIT professor too,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh my god. But I tried

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<v Speaker 2>not to process too much of it because I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to go back and sleep.

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<v Speaker 4>Which I did.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, waking up and seeing these details, it is

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating because yesterday or it was the day before that,

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<v Speaker 2>we had police come out and say, hey, we have

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<v Speaker 2>a second person we want to find because we think

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<v Speaker 2>this second person will help us find our person of interest.

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<v Speaker 4>And turns out they were right.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the right move to make.

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<v Speaker 1>So folks we're gonna get you called up and give

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<v Speaker 1>you the very latest about what we're talking about here.

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<v Speaker 1>But the shooter, police say the shooter is no longer

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<v Speaker 1>out there. That shooter is dead, Cloudio Manuel Nevis Valente,

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight years old. We're going to get more information

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<v Speaker 1>about him. But that is the person police say we

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<v Speaker 1>have been seeing for the past week on all those

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<v Speaker 1>surveillance videos that they have been putting out. Then robe

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<v Speaker 1>what yesterday, the day before, they started to focus on

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<v Speaker 1>a person of interest that they made clear was not

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<v Speaker 1>a suspect, but they thought interacted with the suspect at

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<v Speaker 1>some point. I'm like, hmm, weird. How did they know that?

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<v Speaker 1>Now the story's out, like, holy.

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<v Speaker 4>Hell, it's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, yes, he actually encountered the Cloudio Valente in

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<v Speaker 2>the bathroom and he said he wasn't wearing the appropriate

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<v Speaker 2>clothes for the weather outside, and he thought it was unusual.

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<v Speaker 4>So I actually thought this is pretty remarkable. He followed

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<v Speaker 4>him out rope.

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<v Speaker 1>They say this all the time, don't aren't we trained?

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<v Speaker 1>Now we see something out of place. This was so

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<v Speaker 1>out of place that he took it upon himself to

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<v Speaker 1>follow the guy.

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<v Speaker 4>I cannot imagine doing that, but he did.

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<v Speaker 2>He follows him out there, and then he sees more

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<v Speaker 2>suspicious behavior because Valente goes to get into his vehicle

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<v Speaker 2>and then just locks it and keeps walking hurriedly around

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<v Speaker 2>the corner.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, unlocks it with the fob.

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<v Speaker 4>He unlocked it and then kept walking.

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<v Speaker 3>That's weird, why would you do that?

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<v Speaker 4>So then he followed him what around the corner?

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<v Speaker 1>To think now, in that moment, he had no idea

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<v Speaker 1>he was following a killer. He wasn't a killer yet

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<v Speaker 1>that dude was armed, and he is following somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>clearly had no problem killing.

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<v Speaker 4>That is so eery to think.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's probably thinking himself, Wow, I was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>braver than I even realized, or maybe I was a

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<v Speaker 2>lot dumber than I knew. But yes, he speed walked

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<v Speaker 2>to follow him around the corner, and he actually confronted

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<v Speaker 2>him and said, your car is back there, Why are

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<v Speaker 2>you circling the block?

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<v Speaker 4>That is very courageous, And I.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess rome's what was he supposed to do next. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure it's on his mind as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Should I have alerted somebody? Should I have gone and say?

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<v Speaker 1>But this is what I guess in our culture over

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<v Speaker 1>the years, and go back to Columbine. Columbine, if somebody

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<v Speaker 1>is wearing a trench coat in the summer, you look

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<v Speaker 1>and go, wait a minute, what's that about? Like we've

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<v Speaker 1>been trained almost and to think this guy, So this

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<v Speaker 1>is not just I saw a guy and thought something weird.

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<v Speaker 1>He did something about it and followed the guy. This

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<v Speaker 1>is incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>It is remarkable that he'd and then confronted him and said,

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<v Speaker 2>why are you acting like this?

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<v Speaker 4>You're acting strangely.

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<v Speaker 2>I do appreciate the fact that maybe all of the

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<v Speaker 2>news coverage we've had of people trying to thwart potential

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<v Speaker 2>mass shootings or terrorist attacks like these are the These

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<v Speaker 2>are the habits that we've hopefully instilled in some people

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<v Speaker 2>to say, if you see something, say something, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what this guy did.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you say that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think about the Bandai Beach shooting in Australia and

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<v Speaker 1>to think that there was a citizen that went and

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<v Speaker 1>disarmed that guy, like we are taking a responsibility and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe saving lives. This guy may have saved lives. Sure

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<v Speaker 1>in that moment, that interaction, he had no idea, but

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<v Speaker 1>his information was key in him finding the guy. Who

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<v Speaker 1>knows whether the damage he might have done. But this

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<v Speaker 1>was a courageous We're gonna be hearing from this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to be everywhere telling his story. This is

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<v Speaker 1>I find this to be just unreal.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And so after he confronted Valente and said your car

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<v Speaker 2>is back there, why are you circling the block? He

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<v Speaker 2>responded to him by saying, I don't know you from nobody,

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you harassing me? And then this man goes

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<v Speaker 2>on to Reddit and says, I'm being dead serious. Somebody

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<v Speaker 2>needs to look into a gray nis On with Florida plates.

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<v Speaker 2>So he took note of the car. He took note

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<v Speaker 2>of the license plates, and that was the key to

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<v Speaker 2>finding the suspect.

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<v Speaker 3>Period, this and this is unbelievab. He went on red.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he finally realized that y'all have been looking

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<v Speaker 1>for me. And I think they said he physically went

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<v Speaker 1>up to two officers. Yeah, yeah, and so he was

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<v Speaker 1>key to the case. Now how did this work out?

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<v Speaker 1>They got this witness, if you will, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>had video surveillance video of a car that they said

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<v Speaker 1>they could match up. They could match up the two

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<v Speaker 1>descriptions and that's when they knew, okay, we're on to

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<v Speaker 1>the right thing with this description of this Nissan CenTra.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it that he had rented?

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<v Speaker 1>Now they tracked this car this system, you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>system that annoys all of us, certainly here in the Northeast,

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<v Speaker 1>the one they're able to.

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<v Speaker 3>Take a picture of your license plate.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yes, when they give you your a toll charge

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<v Speaker 2>or a ticket for whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that kind of system of cameras that were able

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<v Speaker 1>to capture the license plate on this particular car. So

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<v Speaker 1>they were able to kind of track it and piece

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<v Speaker 1>it together and figure out where it was going.

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<v Speaker 2>And they knew who rented it because they were able

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<v Speaker 2>to go search the rental records where he actually rented

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<v Speaker 2>the vehicle and trace his his he got he came

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<v Speaker 2>to Boston, I guess from Vegas, correct, and he rented

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<v Speaker 2>the car in Boston, traveled from Boston to Providence, Providence

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<v Speaker 2>back to Boston, and then eventually to Salem Brookline.

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<v Speaker 1>Where they shot the professor, and then ends up in Salem,

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<v Speaker 1>New Hampshire.

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<v Speaker 4>And is it Do we know that?

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<v Speaker 2>Because because we saw what late afternoon early evening police

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<v Speaker 2>were releasing the information that they knew who the guy

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<v Speaker 2>was and perhaps that led to him making a decision

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<v Speaker 2>to die by suicide at that point when he knew

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<v Speaker 2>he was found.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not exactly sure when he died.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked about this yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>They looked really frustrated that they even had to acknowledge

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<v Speaker 1>that they had identified there were law enforcement sources that

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<v Speaker 1>were leaking information and that this look this.

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<v Speaker 2>That hinders an investigation or your ability to capture someone

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<v Speaker 2>because they're following the headlines most likely, and if they

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<v Speaker 2>know you're onto them, they're going to either they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do something erratic to evade.

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<v Speaker 1>But you said hinder an investigation, and this investigation that's

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<v Speaker 1>already been hindered, hampered, slowed, two people already taken into

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<v Speaker 1>custody then released.

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<v Speaker 3>So this has been a hell of a week for

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<v Speaker 3>that community.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sad because, if you think about it, the Brown

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<v Speaker 2>University shooting mass shooting happened on December thirteenth.

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<v Speaker 4>The MIT professor didn't die until the.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifteenth, So it's just said those two days cost a

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<v Speaker 2>renowned and beloved professor his life.

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<v Speaker 1>And again we're trying to figure out the why still

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<v Speaker 1>now the suspect was found, the authority say again, this

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<v Speaker 1>was not in the situation where he was engaged in

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<v Speaker 1>a firefight with police officers. They got there and they

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<v Speaker 1>say he was dead of a self inflicted gunshot. Will

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<v Speaker 1>and found two guns with him, and they say also

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<v Speaker 1>other evidence that matches the scene at Brown. So again

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about a forty eight year old man by

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<v Speaker 1>the name of Claudio Manuel Nevis Valente is the name. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>who is he and what's his connection to Brown? His

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<v Speaker 1>connection is he went to school there a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, two thousand to two thousand and one.

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<v Speaker 2>He was only there for one year in a graduate program, correct,

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<v Speaker 2>But they said he knew that building, well, that is

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<v Speaker 2>the building he would have studied in when he went

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<v Speaker 2>there more than twenty years ago. We also know he's

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<v Speaker 2>a Portuguese national. And there's your connection to the MIT

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<v Speaker 2>physics professor who is also Portuguese, Nuno Lrero, and they

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<v Speaker 2>apparently went to school for some time together in Portugal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, some elite engineering school there. That's not a coincidence.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know what the relationship was, but that is not

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<v Speaker 1>a coincidence.

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<v Speaker 3>That this took place.

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<v Speaker 1>They always check no criminal history with this guy, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>in his background. Last known address was Miami. He did,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you mentioned Vegas. He had spent some time

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<v Speaker 1>in Vegas as well. But here is another big part

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<v Speaker 1>of this story. How did he get here in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place? Why was he here? Well, he was a

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<v Speaker 1>legal permanent resident of the United States. He first entered

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<v Speaker 1>on a student visa back in two thousand, but he

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<v Speaker 1>got permanent status through the Diversity Immigrant Visa also known

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<v Speaker 1>as the DV one, which is now now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes and now Trump Christy Noman announced it has completely

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<v Speaker 2>suspended that program, saying it is done.

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<v Speaker 4>It is over.

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<v Speaker 2>We will no longer be allowing people to enter our

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<v Speaker 2>country through that program.

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<v Speaker 1>And this has been debated over the years, and some

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<v Speaker 1>find it beautiful. I have to argue, I'll say out loud,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it. But what it is is just a lottery.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of countries that don't get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of easas to come into the US. It's literally

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<v Speaker 1>a lottery all over the world. In certain countries, you

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<v Speaker 1>get lucky enough, your number gets pulled out and you

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<v Speaker 1>literally win the lottery to come to the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>I just like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I had the best conversation with an Uber driver who

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<v Speaker 2>had just won the lottery from his country, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was so grateful and so appreciative, and it was like

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<v Speaker 2>the most wonderful uber ride I've ever had because he

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<v Speaker 2>was just the happiest person I had met that day,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe even that month, because he was just so grateful

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<v Speaker 2>to be in America.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's that's sad for a lot of folks who

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<v Speaker 4>have actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Benefited from and our country has benefited from their arrival.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's fifty to fifty five thousand there. That's a small, small,

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<v Speaker 1>small number, but it happens every year. And as small

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<v Speaker 1>as that number is, ro Juja said an uber driver.

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<v Speaker 1>I have known two or three people in my life

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<v Speaker 1>who've won this lottery. You think I'd never run into somebody. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I worked with a lady won the lottery. Wow. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is the program it right now has stopped. So

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<v Speaker 1>his connection to Brown you talked about there Master of

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<v Speaker 1>Science program in physics is why he was there. But

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<v Speaker 1>he went on leave just after attending for one year,

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<v Speaker 1>but then withdrew officially from Brown in July of two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and three, so he hasn't been connected to the school,

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<v Speaker 1>and the school they announced we have no affiliation to

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<v Speaker 1>this guy at.

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<v Speaker 2>All that is so bizarre, And the connection to the

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<v Speaker 2>professor is just that they attended that same elite engineering school.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's very confusing as.

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<v Speaker 2>To how he somehow that much time has passed since

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<v Speaker 2>he was in class with Nuno Lerero, Professor Lerero, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's been decades since he's been at Brown. So what happened,

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<v Speaker 2>what happened recently that somehow brought up some memory or

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<v Speaker 2>some perceived grievance something that made him snap.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what a deranged a killer is supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to look like somebody who's capable of this. But the

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<v Speaker 1>video you saw from inside the rental car place casual, cool, calm,

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<v Speaker 1>normal looking dude. I mean, you just you don't see

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<v Speaker 1>anything menacing until you know the background and who you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at. But I don't think that guy would cause

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<v Speaker 1>alarm in looking at him.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, not at all, not even from the image. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>he just looked like your average stocky, middle aged guy. Like.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing that was strange is he was dressed

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<v Speaker 2>in all black and had a black surgical mask on

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 4>But this is of note.

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<v Speaker 2>The Rhode Island Attorney General said this very bluntly, very plainly,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we have any idea why now, or

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<v Speaker 2>why Brown, why these students, why this classroom, But everyone

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<v Speaker 2>always wants to know the why.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to. They'll start to piece this together.

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<v Speaker 1>A story of some kind will emerge, but as of

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<v Speaker 1>this morning, it has yet to do so.

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<v Speaker 3>But stay here, folks. They gave us the update.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, they got the guy, or at least he's off

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<v Speaker 1>the streets now, believe the shooter is dead. Say there's

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<v Speaker 1>no further threat to the community, and they are not

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<v Speaker 1>searching for anybody else. Now, that, of course, was the

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<v Speaker 1>big headline in the big update, but we got other

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<v Speaker 1>headlines and updates from the police about the investigation and

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<v Speaker 1>about how the shooting victims are doing in the hospital state.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay here, I'll have that for you right after the break.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I'm looking at my dear robot here, we

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<v Speaker 1>will have that for you right after the break. All right, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>we are back here on Amy And sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>You know I've done that before too. I'll say I

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<v Speaker 2>or mine or meet and wait, we and hours. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>I get it, it happens.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only offensive when you do it about our home.

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<v Speaker 1>But did you here recording a little earlier this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll still have our regular morning run for you here

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<v Speaker 1>in just a bit with all the news headlines of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, but this was the big breaking story overnight.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people are going to be seeing this

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time when they wake up that Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, after about a week essentially with no answers,

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<v Speaker 1>we do get word that the shooter in the Brown

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<v Speaker 1>University mass shooting that killed two students injured another nine,

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<v Speaker 1>according to police, took his own life self inflicted gunshot wound.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was found overnight in Salem, New Hampshire, at

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<v Speaker 1>a facility, a storage facility, so we do know this

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<v Speaker 1>part is over now. A lot of questions, including they're

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<v Speaker 1>saying he's responsible for that shooting of the MIT professor

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<v Speaker 1>as well Robe, So a lot of questions to be answered,

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<v Speaker 1>but a relief at least that he's not on the street.

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<v Speaker 3>The update.

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<v Speaker 1>It's positive out of the hospital, yes, at least, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, every single day it seems like they get

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<v Speaker 1>we got a positive update, but this is the best one.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like all if those have been shot are

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<v Speaker 1>certainly on the way to recovery.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, now all six who still are in the hospital

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<v Speaker 2>are listed in stable condition.

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<v Speaker 4>That is remarkable. Three were treated and eventually released.

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<v Speaker 2>So all the survivors who were wounded will in fact

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<v Speaker 2>survive and are improving day by day by day.

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<v Speaker 4>So that is such good news for the parents.

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<v Speaker 2>My heart's still, oh, our hearts still go out to

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<v Speaker 2>the parents of those two students who were just so senseless,

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<v Speaker 2>senselessly and randomly killed by this man. I cannot imagine

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<v Speaker 2>the pain they are in right.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Christmas a week from yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, it's obviously it wouldn't matter when they

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<v Speaker 2>were killed, it would always be tragic. But but but

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<v Speaker 2>but I just remember the anticipation of knowing Annie was

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<v Speaker 2>coming home last week, and you know, just knowing she

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<v Speaker 2>had a plane ticket to come home, and just thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about these students finishing their you know, final exams and

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<v Speaker 2>just getting those last study hauls in to head home

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<v Speaker 2>for the holidays.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just exceptionally tragic.

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<v Speaker 3>They're gifts under the tree for those kids. That is

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<v Speaker 3>such a there is I say.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting here looking at you, looking in the distance

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<v Speaker 1>at Anne Lisa's room. She's in their sleep, trees, presents

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<v Speaker 1>and this is just what the holiday was. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know what they saw these kids. I hope they had

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<v Speaker 1>great Thanksgivings. Right, it's a short window. You go over Thanksgiving, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody see you in a couple of weeks. Christmas is coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of a thing. That's just horrific to think about.

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<v Speaker 1>An update from police at least about the shooting and

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<v Speaker 1>again ropes, there's a big debate now debate. There's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be some I guess, some scrutiny on the cameras

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<v Speaker 1>at that building.

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<v Speaker 3>There's been a lot of talk.

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<v Speaker 2>There weren't many they said that because it's an obviously

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<v Speaker 2>it's an older campus. It's one of the oldest campuses

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<v Speaker 2>in the country. I believe the seventh oldest something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, they just haven't updated. Just because you have

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<v Speaker 2>old buildings doesn't mean you shouldn't put cameras on them.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, they just haven't updated their technology with the times.

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<v Speaker 2>And certainly this would be a glaring example of why

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<v Speaker 2>it is so important and honestly, even as a deterrent.

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<v Speaker 2>If people know when they're walking in every angle they

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be their image is going to be captured,

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to be seen.

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<v Speaker 4>Anything they do will be reviewed and be watched.

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<v Speaker 3>That's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if he was familiar he might have right then,

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<v Speaker 1>if he knew this, because I haven't seen an image

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<v Speaker 1>of him anywhere near that building now right, it's all

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<v Speaker 1>been on the street, these ring cams, door cams, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, clearly he's a smart dude, so he knows or

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<v Speaker 2>you'd think he would have known that as he was

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<v Speaker 2>casing things out.

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<v Speaker 1>And how did they explain that the program he was

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<v Speaker 1>in their physics when he was enrolled there. This building

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<v Speaker 1>houses a lot of equipment, specialized equipment that you would

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<v Speaker 1>need if you're a physics major. And she was explaining

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<v Speaker 1>someone from the university that we don't have records that

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<v Speaker 1>go back that far of what classes were ware, but

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<v Speaker 1>she said it is fair to say.

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<v Speaker 3>He spent a lot of time in his building. Yep,

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<v Speaker 3>he was very familiar, so.

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<v Speaker 4>He knew it.

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<v Speaker 2>And they found forty four shell casings in the building.

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<v Speaker 3>This dude was firing.

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<v Speaker 4>He was firing at random.

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<v Speaker 2>And honestly, when you see something like that, it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>awful to say that, My goodness, it's a miracle only

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<v Speaker 2>eleven people were shot.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, folks, we want to hop on again.

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<v Speaker 1>We will have the regular morning run for you here

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<v Speaker 1>in just a bit, but we want to hop on

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<v Speaker 1>and get this up for you. First thing, but the headline,

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<v Speaker 1>the breaking story, yes, is that finally it's over, according

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<v Speaker 1>to police, the search, the fear is over. The person

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for that Brown University shooting and the shooting of

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<v Speaker 1>an MIT professor is dead according to police, of a

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<v Speaker 1>self inflicted gun shot wound. We will be hearing plenty

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<v Speaker 1>more about this. A reminder, folks, top right corner of

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<v Speaker 3>Our updates coming to you all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>We expect possibly some more today, but yeah, stay with us, folks.

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<v Speaker 3>We always appreciate you spending some time with us. I'm TJ.

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<v Speaker 3>Holmes and we have a baby robot. Pu'll talk to

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<v Speaker 3>y'all soon.