WEBVTT - TechStuff Classic: TechStuff Leaps Into Hyperspace 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:07.240 Welcome to tex Stuff, a production of I Heart Radios 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:13.600 How Stuff Works. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:16.560 I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:20.239 I Heart Radio and I love all things tech And 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:22.720 with time for us to listen to another classic episode, 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:25.200 it means it's a Friday, so let's all enjoy ourselves 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:28.600 and and dive back into the archives of tech Stuff. 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.200 You know, I've got more than episodes at this point, 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:34.440 so some of these are probably brand new to you guys. 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:38.920 This episode originally aired on April two, thousand thirteen. It 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:43.400 is called tex Stuff Leaps into hyper Space. Let's listen. 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:47.360 Red leather, yellow leather, red, yellow leather. All right, here 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:51.360 we go, Han Solo, I'm captain of the Millennium Falcon. 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:53.519 Chewy here tells me you're looking for passage to the 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:57.440 Alton System. Yes, indeed, if it's a fast ship fast ship, 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:00.280 you've never heard of the Millennium Falcon ship I have. 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:02.200 It's the ship that made the Kessel run in less 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.240 than twelve par secs. I've outrun Imperial starships. Not the 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:08.040 local bulk cruisers, mind you. I'm talking about the big 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.000 Correlian ships. Now she's fast enough for you, old man? 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:15.000 What's the cargo? Usually I'm the one calling you old man. Yeah, 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:16.800 that's true. I just wanted to turn that around a 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:18.800 little bit. I also didn't go full Christopher walk In, 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:20.920 despite the fact that I love that Saturday Night Live skit. 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.640 So we are talking about the Kessel Run and hyper 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.600 drives in the Star Wars universe and uh, and then 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:29.679 kind of comparing it to what we would like to 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:32.880 call real life. Right. And we're doing this, by the way, 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:36.000 because this is our five first episode and we are 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:38.080 we we are big fans of the five of first legion. 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:41.400 That's right, That's right, that's the Uh. This is props 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:44.240 going out to our Star Wars buddies. So you five 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:46.679 hundred and first members out there, this one's for you. 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:49.760 So now, in the original context, we need to talk 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:53.440 about what the Kessel Run is within the mythology of 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:56.280 Star Wars, right, and it's not really mentioned in um 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.200 in any of the three original films, right, or even 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:04.040 the fictional prequels that supposedly exist. No, we should also 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:08.919 point out, according to everything I've ever read, Lucas considered 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:12.440 anything that was in the movies cannon correct. Anything outside 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:16.160 the movies was just extra stuff that may or may 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:19.440 not line up with what is canon. So there's no 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:21.560 you know, the stuff that we'll be talking about, a 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.919 lot of this is things that other writers have kind 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.720 of expounded upon in in the novels. Are the comics, 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.520 some of the video games, yeah, some of the cartoons, etcetera. 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:32.240 And so the stuff that we're talking about this is 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:35.639 this is mostly people trying to explain away what Lucas 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:38.800 created in a in a manner that makes kind of sense, 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:41.120 because a lot of the stuff that you watch in 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:43.440 Star Wars, if you really think about, you're like, wait 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.640 a minute, it's not science. So the Kessel Run in 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:51.480 particular is a route in Star Wars, at least this 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:54.400 is the way it's explained in the Expanded Universe. It's 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:56.760 it's a smuggling run, right, which is exactly what you know. 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.080 Han Solo is a smuggler, and so this is a 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:02.960 particular route through space that smugglers would take. And uh. 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:06.640 And one of the big complaints or criticisms of this 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:10.240 particular section of dialogue is that Han Solo talks about 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.600 doing a Kessel Run in less than twelve par sex, 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:17.560 which seems to suggest that he thinks par sex is 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:20.639 a measure of time, right, and it's not, and it's 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:22.800 it's certainly not. You know, you know, I think that 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.800 my my strongest um explanation of this is just that 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:28.840 Han Solo was just saying words. He was just talking 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:31.720 and trying to sound impressive. My my explanation is Lucas 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:35.160 thought that parsex sounded futuristic and that it sounds like 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:38.800 a measurement of time. That was mine, which puts the 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.560 onus on the writer and not the character. But hey, 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:44.160 you know, I'm a writer. That's kind of how I think. 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.320 Like sometimes I make mistakes too. I'm just saying that 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.000 if you're going to excuse the character saying and I 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.120 think that that is not a poor right if you 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.480 want to be an apologist. Sure, so, So what a 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:55.840 what a par sec actually is? It is a unit 0:03:55.920 --> 0:04:00.160 of distance and technically based upon UH the uh the 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:05.320 sun and earth and and and a second of arc. Uh. 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:10.440 It involves some pretty complex UH concepts that are not 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:13.320 that complex, but they're difficult to explain an audio format. 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.960 But ultimately it translates to about three point to six 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.440 light years, right, and and it's specifically, by the way, 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.719 tied to to the distance of the Sun from the 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.760 Earth and another object and another object that makes up 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:29.440 one sec. Yeah, and so you know, forgiving the fact 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.160 that we're talking about a galaxy far far away, and 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:35.479 that perhaps, as a phil plate of that astronomer pointed out, 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.800 that might not be the most valid measurement. Why would 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.440 another why would people in another galaxy use a unit 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:45.640 of measurement that's dependent upon the Earth's position relative to 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:49.200 another object and the Sun. That makes no sense at all. 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:51.719 But anyway, so it's it's equivalent to about three point 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.160 to six light years, And of course that just makes 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:56.279 things even more confusing for people who don't know what 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.000 a light year is, and they think light year is 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:01.720 also a measurement of time. It's not. But at any rate, 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.760 the description Han Solo makes is very confusing if you 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.320 think about parsex being a distance, like, how can you 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:12.080 take a route and say that your ship made it 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:15.839 in less than twelve units of distance for that route 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:20.240 and make that the a measurement of its speed. So 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:24.120 here's how we're gonna try and explain this well. And 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:27.880 also I should mention uh in the novelization of a 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:31.160 new hope. Han Solo does not say Parsex recond that 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:35.800 real quick. He said standard time units twelve less than 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:39.320 twelve standard time units. I have no idea how long 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.279 the standard time unit is, but that doesn't really matter, 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:45.839 I guess. But anyway, so Kessel run, you've got this route. 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:50.400 It's usually if you are taking the quote unquote safe approach, 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:54.560 eighteen par sex long, which is about fifty nine light years. Yeah. 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.520 So the reason why it's that long is because the 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:00.480 route takes you through an area of space that has 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:04.080 black holes in it. It's called the mall. And the 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:08.800 mall in a w would destroy a ship if you 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:10.320 got too close to it. It's you know, it's a 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.120 black holes. There are bad times for ships, right you know? 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.200 You know you do? Have you heard what the term 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:19.200 is for something that gets pulled through a black hole? 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.240 The term of what is happening to it? Spaganifications my 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.799 favorite thing in the world. Yes, because it gets pulled 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:29.240 into these long, thin strands as it's being uh infinitely 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:33.600 thin strands hypothetically being pulled towards this center of intense 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:38.440 density or intensity as I like to call it. Anyway, 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.720 So usually this route would be eighteen par sex long. 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:45.520 But if one were to be a little daring or 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:51.640 perhaps insane, completely crazy, one might be able to plot 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.960 a route that goes closer to the black holes, you 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.200 kind of skirt around it. And you know, Han Solo, 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.760 being the guy that he is, he's he says, you know, 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.880 time is money, or distance is money, or money is 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:07.080 money or something I don't know. Anyway, he wanted to 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.200 be able to take a more direct route, which would 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:14.040 shave off about six or so parsecs from this eighteen 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:17.120 parsec long route, and that means that you know, he's 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:20.240 he's essentially instead of going like a curved line, he's 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:23.760 making a straight line. Not quite like that dramatic, but 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:27.400 close to it. So in other words, he's taking a 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.280 route and making it more efficient, but it is much 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:36.760 more dangerous. There's no direct relationship between the Millennium Falcon's 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:41.440 speed and this route immediately, but one could argue, and 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:45.080 one has. In fact, Kyle Hill of Wired wrote a 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:48.680 great article how the Star Wars Kessel Run turns Hans 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:52.120 Solo into a time traveler. Fantastic article. It's really well 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.560 link it. It's great. Yeah, it's entertaining and uh and 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:59.840 also it starts to build in some chronological problems in 0:07:59.880 --> 0:08:02.440 the Star Wars universe, but we'll get into those. But anyway, 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:07.360 he points out that that you could end up thinking, oh, well, 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.119 the Millennium Falcon has to be the fast ship because 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.760 it has to be able to escape that pull of 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.960 the black holes. So therefore that's what tells you that 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.200 it's fast. Is not only that heating only is the 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:22.160 pilot capable of making a more efficient route to go 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:24.200 through the Kessel Run, but it's also in the ship 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:27.160 fast enough to a black roles, right right? Yeah, Well, 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:30.240 according to a Wikipedia um, which is one of the 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.440 best wikis ever, I just said that on the air 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.600 it was wonderful. Um. In the commentary for Star Wars 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:38.840 episode for a New Hope DVD, George Lucas said that 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:42.920 the Millennium Falcons navigational computers were highly advanced and that 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:46.040 that was why the parsic thing works out the way 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:49.120 that it does. Yeah. Yeah, so essentially then you just 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.360 make Han Solo a guyo flips switches, a really good 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.800 flip switcher. There's also a great thing that was at 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:59.120 the Smithsonian, one of the Star Wars exhibit where uh, 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:01.839 Harrison's It was actually talking about the first time they 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:05.560 shot uh seen in the cockpit of the Millennium Falcon 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.000 and George Lucas gave him the direction of your flying 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.719 the ship and he says, Okay, how do I do that? 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.600 Because there are just all these dials and switches and 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:17.040 they didn't There was no rhyme or reason to its 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:20.840 was like, I don't know the buttons pull that lever 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.679 pushed the button frank, So anyway you might wonder, well, 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.240 why what's the big deal of the Kessel run? Anyway 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.360 was what was the significance? Like it's a smuggling route, 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.240 but it's a smuggling route for what? And within the 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:37.920 lore again this again nothing films expanded universe, so not Cannon. 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:44.280 Kessel was a planet that had these mines on it 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:48.359 for something called glitter stem spice, which was a substance 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:53.480 created by spice spiders, and it's a photoactive substance, so 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:55.439 it activates when light hits it, So it had to 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.800 be mined in complete darkness. It could not be exposed 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.840 to light in anywhere or else it lose its potency. 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:07.160 And the spice was essentially a drug. Uh As Cheery 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:08.480 as that is, I do want to point out that 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:12.079 I'm pretty sure the word castle comes from during World 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.720 War Two. You know, the Germans got themselves really good 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:16.920 and surrounded by a group of Russians and uh and 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.800 some of their compatriots were trying to get supplies and 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:23.600 aid to uh their their surrounding colleagues colleagues. Yeah sure, 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:26.960 and this failed completely. But but the word kessel means 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:32.240 that like pocket in Germany, thint cattle, yeah, dosson thrish 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:35.680 dish uh So the Gli stump spice stuff. What it 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.160 was supposed to do within the realm of Star Wars 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.640 is boost your mental capacity and even give you perhaps 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.319 telepathic powers for a short amount of time. It was 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:48.040 also incredibly addictive. This is this makes Hanselo an even 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.400 darker character in a way because he's smuggling. Yeah, he 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:54.920 runs drugs. Um so, yeah, that's kind of grim. But 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:58.400 in the during the Galactic Republic, which is the period 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.920 that proceeds a New Hope, that's back when there was 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:05.680 a the Old Republic was around. It was being used medically. 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.400 But then the republic fails and then the black market 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:12.360 takes over. Smugglers start selling this. I guess more like 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:16.080 recreational drugs as opposed to medical things, and the Empire 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:19.200 outlaws it. And so that's why it's important to be 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:25.120 able to avoid imperial entanglements, as Obi Wan says in 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:29.320 a New Hope. So that's why it's important that there's 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:34.000 the explanation of shaving off some of the distance that 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.200 it would normally take you to to travel in order 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.559 to get there, and also the fact that the Falcon 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:41.720 would have to be a little faster than most ships. Now, 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.320 all of that is kind of cool. I can. I 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:47.040 can kind of handle most of that, even though I 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.360 think that the parseec thing is really an apologist. It's 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:54.719 a redcon or retroactive continuity where you after you've made 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:56.760 a mistake, you go back and try to justify the 0:11:56.760 --> 0:12:00.120 fact that a mistake is there. Uh, this is the 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:06.880 way in no way unlimited to Star Wars. It's extraordinarily common. Um, yes, everywhere, Yeah, 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:10.480 it's yeah. So the other thing that Hans Solo says 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.880 is that can go at point five beyond light speed. 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:17.960 So I interpret that to mean half again faster than 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:20.880 the speed of light. I I interpreted it as as 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:24.120 a as point five percent of light speed. Above light speed. 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:27.120 But but but your sounds much more impressive. But that 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:29.800 would be much mind would be much more impressive. Either way, 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:32.960 you're violating the laws of physics as we understand them. 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:37.400 Because as we as we understand the speed of light 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:40.920 through a vacuum is the universal speed limit. Nothing can 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:44.000 go faster than light through a vacuum physically impossible. Now 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:48.000 we should also mention light itself does not necessarily travel 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:51.679 at the same speed through all media. You know, through 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.720 a vacuum, it travels at an incredible clip. It's about 0:12:55.120 --> 0:13:01.040 two d million, seven fifty eight meters per second, or 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:04.880 around one six thousand, two eighty two miles per second. 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.920 That's through the vacuum of space and solos ship. If 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.360 you assume it could go half again faster than the 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.160 speed of light would have its top speed, it's somewhere 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:18.240 around four hundred forty nine million, million, six eight thousand 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:21.920 six or eighty seven per second, or two thousand, four 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:26.160 hundred twenty four miles per second. That's really fast, And 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.160 of course it is faster than anything we can we 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.040 we know of, besides some theoretical particles that we'll talk 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.839 about in a little bit. That's faster than anything we 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:38.520 know of can go. That makes it really problematic because 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:41.199 if we just talk about parsecs and shaving off distance, 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.480 you know, Okay, I can see that we still have 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:49.000 the problem of a parsec is a really long distance, right, Yeah, 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:52.679 So how you know, if Han Solo made the kessel run, 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:56.160 how long would it take him to do it? Assuming 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.199 that he's traveling at around the speed of light? And yeah, yeah, 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.240 I mean if if you're if you nudge right up 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:03.320 to the speed of light, they would take about thirty 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:07.199 nine years travel twelve par sex that that would be. 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:11.080 That would be due to an independent observer though correct 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:14.079 because special relativity. But we'll talk about that. Yeah, I 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:15.880 don't want to get into that right now, but special 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:17.920 relativity will play a part in our second part of 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:21.200 our conversation because also we should go ahead and say it. 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.720 According to Star Wars, and again this is a retcon 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:27.760 type thing, all ships have a stasis field stabilizer thing 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.760 that keeps time. It's a universal constant of time amongst 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.920 the Empire, which is really convenient because otherwise Han Solo 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.640 would be older than Yoda right after he had taken 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:39.040 what I don't know, like like two or three trips 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:43.000 yea four or five three trips on the Kestle run. 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:44.680 But it does sound like he's done it multiple times, 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.240 which means that if he's done the Kestle run multiple times, 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.040 that special relativity problem, which again we'll talk about in 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:53.880 a minute just to Paine. Right. So, so here's here's 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:57.880 the thing. The stasis is supposed to keep everything constant. Uh. 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.280 Time is a tricky thing, but it doesn't matter. It's 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:05.480 not just if you're traveling nearer or at or above 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:07.080 the speed of light where you have to take it 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:11.400 into account. Every single planet that's in the entire galaxy 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.600 of Star Wars has time pass at a different rate 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:19.520 according to any according to physics. Yeah, and again it's relative. 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:23.200 So if Lauren's on one planet and I'm on another planet, 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:25.440 each of us are going to feel as if time 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:29.680 is passing at the same speed individually, like a second 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:31.520 will feel like a second to me, a second will 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.280 feel like a second to Lauren. However, depending upon the 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.640 planet's mass and the speed at which it travels through space, 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.800 the actual passage of time is going to be different 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.080 relative to each other. So if we match our watches up, 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:47.560 we'll see that they're not keeping exact synchronized time. And 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:50.680 again more on that and just a bit. I have 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.360 to I have to preface it because it's it makes 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:58.200 my head swim, all right. So the other element in 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:01.800 this Star Wars universe is the idea of hyper space 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:05.200 and hyperdrive. And so this is when, and if you've 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.320 watched the Star Wars movies, you know, they engage the 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:10.960 hyperdrive and then suddenly all the stars start streaking towards 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:14.840 them in this beautiful display. And from from the outside 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:17.400 it looks like the ship just suddenly gets an enormous 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:21.440 speed boost, and yet no one is is slammed back 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.520 against the back of the the Millennium falcon like and 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:28.680 ejected into space because of the massive acceleration. That would 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:30.800 be a pretty pretty lame trip. It would be really 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:33.040 would be funny to see, like the the activation of 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:34.680 the first hyper drive and then you just see a 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.240 bunch of a leads just floating free in space like well, 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.880 that was a bad idea, um because that kind of 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:42.400 this kind of happens in Fire Escape. That's for for 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.120 you kids out there. We need to make Jonathan watch that. Anyway, 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.920 I've never watched it, so so it's it's not very 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:51.040 well defined hyperspace, and in the Star Wars universe, even 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.240 in the expanded universe a right, right, it's hyperspace is 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:57.280 kind of placed in contrast to real space. Yeah, you know, 0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.200 real space being of course what we're kind of moving 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.560 around and the under under normal speed constraints are moving 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:05.040 around it. And then and then yeah, apparently these these 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:09.000 hypermatter reactor drives with hypermatter implosion cores. I mean, it 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:10.760 sounds a little bit like a like a wormhole or 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:13.520 a tests or act something like that. Like, again, it's 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:17.040 not very well explained. So some of there's like it 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.040 could be a parallel universe where you open up a 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.920 gate and you travel into a new universe, and then 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:24.359 you open up a second gate and you re emerge 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:27.240 into quote unquote our universe the start, or at least 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:31.159 the Star Wars universe real space, but you are you know, 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:33.199 in a different point of real space than you were 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:36.040 when you started. Um Or it could be an extra 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.600 dimension in space, which is kind of like warp drive 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:42.639 where you're warping space around you. It could be an 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:45.760 alternate mode of physical existence, which I said is kind 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:47.920 of like an astral plane for those of you who 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:51.440 play fantasy games where you can travel to that um 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.080 or it could just be traveling faster than the speed 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.520 of light, and all of that is difficult to to 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:01.240 get your head around. Again, none of that was definitively 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:04.359 set down in the movies as this is how hyper 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:07.520 drive works or hyperspace. So we have a lot of 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.600 different things to choose from and uh, and it seems 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:13.040 to me that a lot of the people who write 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:15.760 in the Star Wars universe or who have tried to 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:19.520 explain the Star Wars universe have kind of fudged around 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:23.360 with this a lot. No one has really come out 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:27.040 with what is the definitive answer as to what this is? Right? Sure, 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.119 and and this I used this example about about once 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:32.000 a week with Jonathan, but it always reminds me of 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.280 this one terrific interview that Rick Burman did about a 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:40.040 Star Trek, specifically the UH Eisenberg uncertainty compensators and the transporters, 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:41.440 and someone was like, well, how did those work? And 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:43.600 he was like, very well, thank you, next question. Yeah, 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:47.479 whereas you know, the holidack works very poorly, or at 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.800 least it breaks down once a year. But again within 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:54.440 the lore of Star Wars. Hyperspace itself is first discovered 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:57.720 by a race called the Raccotta, and they create ricata 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:01.119 like the cheese. No, it's our a k A t A. Okay, 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.399 just checking. You're gonna remember that Star Wars often the 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:08.800 pronunciations are exactly the same as very silly stuff here 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:12.600 on Earth. Funny about that, um. But anyway, they they 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:17.760 created force powered drives, so they were tapping into the 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:21.560 power of the Force to travel through space at incredible speeds. 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:24.400 And there there, I have no problem because the force 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:27.320 is magic, and and magic means you do not have 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:31.080 to explain how something works technologically, physics, it's right out 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:33.800 the windows, right, Yeah, you know it's a fairy tale. 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:36.720 You don't question the physics of a fairy tale, you know. 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:40.080 I mean if you sit there and say, well, wouldn't 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:44.320 prints climbing Rapunzel's hair, scalp her and leave her screaming 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:47.360 in pain, that doesn't make the fairy tale very much fun. 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:51.720 Uh would have been a very short movie. Tangled would 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:54.480 have been very grim and not in a fairy tale 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:56.919 kind of Okay, anyway, I'm getting off track. But they 0:19:57.280 --> 0:19:59.840 used the force, and I thought, oh, well, if it's 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:05.160 thing that's force space then except that then within again 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:09.200 the expanded lore. The Karelians Karelias, one of the planets 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:15.200 in the Star Wars universe, and the Euros both found 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:19.840 these starship drives and using reverse engineering, determined how they 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:24.119 worked and created technological versions of these force driven drives. 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:27.719 So they use technology to replicate what the force did. 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:32.439 And now now we have a technological explanation for how 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:35.720 hyperspace works. Except there's no actual explanation there. It's just 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:38.960 that it is technological. Now this is what drives me 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:41.679 crazy because then I'm like, okay, wait no, So if 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:43.399 there is a technical way to make it happen, how 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:47.120 does it work? Um? And and really we have more 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:51.719 about the process than anything else. So uh. In the movies, 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:53.959 when they were going to make a jump to hyperspace, 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:58.760 they would activate the ship's navigational computer, which would calculate 0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:01.959 whatever the route needed to And this was important because, 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:06.000 as Han Solo explains to Luke, who is an impatient 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:09.320 little brat in a New Hope, he explains, like, you 0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:11.879 can't hurry this stuff because if you do, you pass 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:14.520 too close to a star or a planet, it pulls 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:17.199 you out of hyperspace and you could die. Yeah. Yeah. Now, 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:21.040 now this to me creates another problem because if hyperspace 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:24.359 is in fact a parallel universe, why do things that 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:28.280 exist in our meat space affect you when you're in 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:30.680 the parallel universe, unless, of course they also have a 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:34.200 presence in that parallel universe. I I do, I don't know. 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:36.520 And it sounds much more like a like a like 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:40.800 a wormhole, like like you're somehow jumping from from point 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:44.400 to point along kind of a like like an conveyor 0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:46.520 belt sort of thing, which is another concept that we 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:48.880 can talk about in a minute. So you're you're thinking 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:52.480 more along the lines of this parallel universe has has 0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:58.840 certain anchor points to real space that it does pass through, 0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:01.399 even if it's not a one to one ratio. Is 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:03.600 that kind of what you're talking about or yeah, or 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:05.240