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Speaker 2: the Vikings are getting six and a half over under
Speaker 2: is forty nine, So the Vikings in primetime and it
Speaker 2: usually doesn't go well for Kirk Cousins. He's four and
Speaker 2: ten in primetime road games, so he's five quarterbacks with
Speaker 2: double digit road primetime losses. Eli Manning Eli was six
Speaker 2: and seventeen in prime time on the road. Andy Dalton
Speaker 2: was one in fourteen. Aaron Rodgers twelve and fourteen. Ben
Speaker 2: Roethlisberger was nine and eleven. Kirk Cousins oh for three
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Speaker 2: the day. All of that is forthcoming. I was thinking
Speaker 2: about this last night, even today, about Kirk Cousins. Normally,
Speaker 2: that would be a story a person you would root for,
Speaker 2: be like, Okay, came out of Michigan State, not you
Speaker 2: know wid widely heralded. You had him going to Washington.
Speaker 2: They spent their first round pick on RG three. He
Speaker 2: goes in the fourth round and you're like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: well he'll be a nice backup. Then all of a
Speaker 2: sudden he gets to play. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: I think, what turn people against him or turn people
Speaker 2: off with Kirk Cousins was when he got the first guaranteed,
Speaker 2: all guaranteed contract. And I remember talking to a source
Speaker 2: with the NFL and he said, the night before he goes,
Speaker 2: you're going to have something to talk about tomorrow, and
Speaker 2: I go, what do you mean? He goes, Kirk Cousins
Speaker 2: is going to get all of his money guaranteed, and
Speaker 2: I just remember people saying, Kirk Cousins, Why Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, right place, right time. He's
Speaker 2: been a good businessman, and he's been a pretty good
Speaker 2: quarterback right if you look at the numbers, But the
Speaker 2: numbers do lie because you want to see what you
Speaker 2: need to do when you need to do it, and
Speaker 2: that's where Kirk has not come through with you know,
Speaker 2: a quarterback who is commensurate to being one of the
Speaker 2: higher paid quarterbacks in the game. But it's weird because
Speaker 2: if you've heard him on the show or you saw
Speaker 2: him on the documentary on Netflix, he comes across as
Speaker 2: just a normal good guy driving a mini van, playing football,
Speaker 2: showing up in a plaid shirt. You know, that's it.
Speaker 2: That's who he is. Pretty simple. But I was wondering,
Speaker 2: why is it people? He doesn't say anything that's really controversial?
Speaker 2: All right? I mean he had one quote, you know,
Speaker 2: but how do you like me? Now? Are you like that?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: Okay, that's it? But other than that, why don't we
Speaker 2: root for him? Can we solve why we don't root
Speaker 2: for Kirk d Cousins?
Speaker 3: Yes, Paul, it does seem people turned towards him after
Speaker 3: the Netflix series Quarterback. They're like, oh, this guy is
Speaker 3: a good guy, and everyone thought he good guy. I
Speaker 3: think if you're a Vikings fan, remember they had that
Speaker 3: really good team what was that two thy seventeen they
Speaker 3: almost hosted the Super Bowl and they decided to upgrade
Speaker 3: and boot case Keenum and the upgrade got you two
Speaker 3: playoff appearances in five years and not any closer to
Speaker 3: the super Bowl. So if you're a Vikings fan, you're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we like him. He's a good guy, he's nice in town.
Speaker 3: He puts up great regular season stats. They won thirteen
Speaker 3: games last year. But are we closer to the super
Speaker 3: Bowl or same to.
Speaker 2: Well, you're not closer this year. I mean they're sort
Speaker 2: of a weird team because they feel like ten and
Speaker 2: seven if all goes well, But then are you going
Speaker 2: to pay him? Are you going to franchise him again
Speaker 2: for the third time in his career? He'd be franchise tag, Yes, Palie.
Speaker 3: And if you're a third time franchise tag, it bumps
Speaker 3: up the cost. I mean he would make north of
Speaker 3: fifty million dollars for that one season if he franchise
Speaker 3: tag north of fifty Yeah. Okay, but you're, like you said,
Speaker 3: they're in no man's land in Minnesota. They're competitive, and
Speaker 3: but they're not in play for Caleb Williams. They're not.
Speaker 3: They're never going to be that bad.
Speaker 2: But what is it about Kirk Cousins? You know, fourth
Speaker 2: round draft pick? You know, he's he's the underdog, and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden we turned against him.
Speaker 5: Yes, I don't know if it turned against them, I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know if there's people that.
Speaker 2: Necessarily root against I think I think people goof on
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins. Definitely, yes, definitely, okay, But because he doesn't
Speaker 2: have he sort of is like a giveth taketh away
Speaker 2: if kind of guy, isn't he? Wait, Like, dang, he
Speaker 2: has like an awesome game and then the next game
Speaker 2: will throw like three interceptions and you're like, dang, what
Speaker 2: the heck with this dude? But would you rather have
Speaker 2: Mac Jones or Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 5: But see, now, even if you're asking that question, you've
Speaker 5: already that is probably horribly insulting to Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 2: Well, how many teams would take Kirk Cousins, I guess
Speaker 2: is the point I'm trying to make that he is
Speaker 2: not everybody is going to be Patrick Mahomes. We expect
Speaker 2: everybody to be like, oh, you know, let me see
Speaker 2: what you can do. Can you throw forty five touchdown?
Speaker 2: Not everybody can do that. You can still be good
Speaker 2: enough to play in the NFL. And Kirk Cousins is
Speaker 2: a twenty nine touchdowns thirteen or fourteen interceptions guy. That's
Speaker 2: what he feels like. I mean, that's not bad. He
Speaker 2: feels a little bit like a retro quarterback. He would
Speaker 2: be great in the seventy, right, Like he's not a
Speaker 2: modern quarterback, is like in a league full of Ferraris,
Speaker 2: he's a Studebaker or something, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: where you're.
Speaker 5: Like, all right, yeah he's hot a cord, Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: maybe he's a Honda Chord. But like from the eighties,
Speaker 5: you know, a little bit of like a throwback kind
Speaker 5: of guy or something that like.
Speaker 2: A Ford Pinto. Oh sure, yeah, yeah, Pauline, I think.
Speaker 3: I would take Kirk Cousins in the fall and mac
Speaker 3: Jones in January because Mac Jones has not proven that
Speaker 3: he's that much yet, but he does seem like he
Speaker 3: would be good in a clutch situation. He has been
Speaker 3: a little bit in the past. I just people have
Speaker 3: trouble buying into Kirk Cousins again as far as like
Speaker 3: the Viking's going further.
Speaker 2: Oh, I would never be surprised where I go. Man,
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins didn't play well in primetime or a big game,
Speaker 2: but I do think he's He's a good quarterback. He's
Speaker 2: not great. He's not going to be something. It's like
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott. We keep waiting for Dak Prescott to be
Speaker 2: something that I don't think he is.
Speaker 5: Yes, Seed mac Jones this weekend was gifted two opportunities
Speaker 5: in the last like three or four minutes of the
Speaker 5: game to beat the Eagles.
Speaker 2: And they couldn't punch it in. He was I mean
Speaker 2: he was gifted. There was.
Speaker 5: It was dropped right in his lap in good field position,
Speaker 5: and it's like, all right, dude, now just take him
Speaker 5: in and win it.
Speaker 2: And he couldn't. But you would take him over Ryan Tannehill, Right,
Speaker 2: you take him over h Kenny Pickett?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Picket hasn't done much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean he he is a good quarterback,
Speaker 2: just not great. Would you take him over Russell Wilson Junior?
Speaker 2: The third How dare you? How dare you?
Speaker 1: Dare you?
Speaker 2: How dare Ritzy? Would you take Kirk Cousins over Russell Wilson?
Speaker 1: I would not.
Speaker 6: I'm still holding out hope that the old Russell Wilson
Speaker 6: will rear his head in the coming weeks.
Speaker 3: Okay, if you removed last year, which is really tough
Speaker 3: to do with Russell, WILLI Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 2: Pete.
Speaker 3: Russell was great in the fourth quarter, Yes, great in prime.
Speaker 2: Yes, he was so somebody that I had on the
Speaker 2: short list of giving the ball, he can be my quarterback.
Speaker 2: Two minutes ago, trying to win a game down four.
Speaker 3: I can find in my notes three or four years ago,
Speaker 3: we're discussing who would you want in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 3: Bradier Russell Wilson. That was three years ago.
Speaker 2: Well, we saw it in the Super Bowl when they
Speaker 2: went toe to toe and New England did not have
Speaker 2: an answer for Russell Wilson back then. You know, for
Speaker 2: a team that was led by their defense, they you know,
Speaker 2: they relied on Russell Wilson to keep them in that
Speaker 2: game against New England. All right, age seven to seven
Speaker 2: to three DP Show poll question for hour one is
Speaker 2: going to be what Seaton O'Connor.
Speaker 5: Well, I've been sitting here workshopping a week two NFL
Speaker 5: must winningest game this weekend, must winning this must winningest
Speaker 5: game this weekend. We talked about this a little bit
Speaker 5: before the show. Just throw out a couple of options,
Speaker 5: you guys, by all means, please help populate. Okay, is
Speaker 5: Broncos commanders a must win game this weekend for the Broncos.
Speaker 2: I think it's a must play well game for Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2: I don't know must Well, what do we what are
Speaker 2: expectation levels for the Broncos. Well, I think that there
Speaker 2: were expectations for the Broncos this year. New coach Russell
Speaker 2: Wilson is going to get back on track. Sean Payton's
Speaker 2: going to right the ship. How about for me Bengals Ravens.
Speaker 2: Bengals absolutely must win that game. I agree. You can't
Speaker 2: go down to two in in your division, in your division,
Speaker 2: and it's a home game against the Ravens, right, yes.
Speaker 3: I'll say the mustiche mustish win for me is Giants Cardinals.
Speaker 3: The Giants. The Giants were expected to be a playoff
Speaker 3: team or compete for a playoff spot this year. They
Speaker 3: got waxed. They it's on a tee to write the
Speaker 3: ship at the Cardinals, supposedly the worst team in football.
Speaker 3: If the Cardinals go oh and two or the Giants
Speaker 3: go to two, call the season off and do whatever
Speaker 3: you're gonna do. Call the season because then they're really
Speaker 3: they really stink. Dallas could have been an aberration, but
Speaker 3: they got waxed if they somehow lose to the Cardinals,
Speaker 3: who don't want to by the way, where their goal
Speaker 3: is to not win.
Speaker 5: How about must winningest Chargers at Titans. Chargers need to
Speaker 5: win this weekend. Yeah, okay, that's that's a must winningest.
Speaker 5: That feels must winningest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Ravens Bengals. Definitely for the Bengals. Let's see,
Speaker 2: what about the Jets, like the Cowboys hosting the Cowboys
Speaker 2: hosting the Jets. I know it's not must winningest, but
Speaker 2: that's where you want to prove that you are one
Speaker 2: of the elite teams. And you just, you know, demolished
Speaker 2: the Giants. You come back home, everybody's talking about how
Speaker 2: great you guys are. Your nine point favorites, Theys some
Speaker 2: good defense. Is this a must win for the Chiefs
Speaker 2: in Jacksonville? How about a must win the Bills at
Speaker 2: home against the Raiders.
Speaker 3: I was flirting with that one too, but the Bills
Speaker 3: seem like they could still make the playoffs if they
Speaker 3: start slow, because I feel like the Jets are less
Speaker 3: threatening and you just got to get past Miami.
Speaker 2: Is there another must winningest? Not Dolphins Patriots. Dolphins don't
Speaker 2: have to win that game. No, it'd be nice, but
Speaker 2: you don't have to and it's not must win for
Speaker 2: the Patriots. I don't think we have great expectations. They're
Speaker 2: like any win. Is there any other must winningest Brown Steelers?
Speaker 2: Nobody has to win that game. I don't feel like
Speaker 2: there was big expectations for the Steelers this year where
Speaker 2: they're Yeah, I think they were a sneaky pick. But okay,
Speaker 2: you get embarrassed at home and now the Browns come in.
Speaker 2: But also when you say must winningest, are we talking
Speaker 2: about heads are going to roll, somebody's gonna get fired.
Speaker 2: That means you're not gonna be one of the better
Speaker 2: teams this year. So all things, but if you're the Steelers,
Speaker 2: Mike tom was not getting fired. No, they're not replacing
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett. People probably think you're the fourth best team
Speaker 2: in that division.
Speaker 5: If this if Kenny Pickett doesn't play well this year,
Speaker 5: you don't think they'll look elsewhere.
Speaker 3: Deep draft?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like see.
Speaker 5: I think the reason I think the Bengals have a
Speaker 5: lot of expectations on themselves, absolutely massive expectations.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yes, I think that's that would probably be my
Speaker 2: must winningest game, that one that that's up there.
Speaker 5: Colts, Texans, nobody, I mean, somebody's probably going to win
Speaker 5: that game, but nobody really needs technically so much.
Speaker 2: Okay, Packers, Falcons, we like, the Packers just look great
Speaker 2: against Chicago. People loving Jordan love. And now you go
Speaker 2: to the Falcons. Falcons, dangerous team, good offense, playing at
Speaker 2: a home. Little momentum there, anybody, anybody, Saints Panthers. The
Speaker 2: Panthers don't need to win that game. The Saints should,
Speaker 2: it'd be very helpful. Yeah, right, but they don't. They don't.
Speaker 2: It's not a must win for them. Hmm. But you
Speaker 2: have the like the Vikings are going to Philadelphia and
Speaker 2: then they come home, and then they have the Chargers
Speaker 2: come into town. I think like you start out zho
Speaker 2: and three question marky Vikings might have to win this
Speaker 2: weekend tonight, Yeah, tonight, sorry, yeah, throw out the records.
Speaker 2: Dang must win tonight, must win Thursday. Jeepers, creepers. I
Speaker 2: don't know that anybody who was ready for that. By
Speaker 2: the way, DraftKings anytime touchdowns score, think about that one.
Speaker 2: We'll have that after the break. Also, the over under
Speaker 2: for both teams tonight. I'll have that for you coming
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Speaker 2: gonna go with seton what would you rather have a
Speaker 2: quarterback for your team? Dan Kirk Cousins or Russell Wilson. Wow,
Speaker 2: that is spicy today. That is yeah, that is fpify.
Speaker 2: That is there you go? Uh we have a Oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, according to DraftKings, who is the best
Speaker 2: odds to score a touchdown tonight? Marvin? Start with you?
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurt bloop bloop blue bloo blue bloo blue. Maybe
Speaker 2: I should have said, now, I guess this is running
Speaker 2: or passing? Is that what it would be? It says
Speaker 2: anytime touchdown score?
Speaker 3: Oh, so if he throws one, he gets it before
Speaker 3: the person's.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what that means anytime
Speaker 2: touchdown score. Maybe Dylan are a graphics guy who's part
Speaker 2: of our gambling podcast. Would by the way, we have
Speaker 2: another episode. If Dan Patrick takes a gamble later on
Speaker 2: today and Dylan is going to try to go for
Speaker 2: a three peat, that would be another three leg parlay
Speaker 2: that he'll miss all three legs of the parlay. So
Speaker 2: would he go oh for three or is he going
Speaker 2: over nine? Or is he both? Because he's he would
Speaker 2: miss on all nine legs of those three bets?
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, those three parlays, he would miss on all
Speaker 5: nine legs, so he's at the same time going over
Speaker 5: three and over nine. Okay, maybe right now he's oh
Speaker 5: for two over six, but it would be one bet
Speaker 5: on these three legs. But he would also have lost
Speaker 5: all three of those legs, So you're right. So right
Speaker 5: now he is, he's gone ozer for six and he
Speaker 5: has another three team parlay that he'll unveil, guaranteed to
Speaker 5: go wrong.
Speaker 2: I feel pretty good about it, though. Yeah, messed up
Speaker 2: the graphic, but that's all good. Yeah, all right, So
Speaker 2: I should have said anytime touchdown score second best odds
Speaker 2: Todd justin Jefferson. Nope, Oh that was my guess. Satan
Speaker 2: had justin Jefferson, Pauli.
Speaker 3: Alexander Madison.
Speaker 2: He is six fifth or six Alexander Madison, Madison cross Hamilton. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was in Hamilton. A. J. Brown would be your
Speaker 2: your answer. That's a good one. Yeah, second past.
Speaker 1: Did you see that with the original cast?
Speaker 2: Yes? I did two times. Yes, over under for each team.
Speaker 2: I think Vegas is expecting a twenty seven to twenty game,
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty one, twenty eight to twenty one.
Speaker 2: The over under for the Vikings is twenty and a half.
Speaker 2: Over under for the Eagles is twenty seven and a half.
Speaker 2: All right, quick quarterback quiz? Ready quarterback? No, it's not
Speaker 2: quick quarterback? Quick quarterback quiz.
Speaker 3: Three quarterbacks all time have at least two hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty touchdown passes and fewer than one hundred and ten interceptions.
Speaker 2: Throw.
Speaker 3: That's a great ratio. More than two hundred fifty touchdown
Speaker 3: passes in their career, fewer than one to ten interceptions
Speaker 3: you all time.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say Aaron Rodgers correct, Russell Wilson correct,
Speaker 2: that's correct, that's perfect.
Speaker 3: Three guys are talking about.
Speaker 2: I was just told that the anytime touchdown you have
Speaker 2: to either catch or you have to run it in.
Speaker 2: It's not a So they're banking on Jalen Hurts running
Speaker 2: one in or maybe catching one the Philly special. Yes, boom, Yeah.
Speaker 3: And they did not change that rule this year, so
Speaker 3: they could still push Jalen Hurts through for the fourth
Speaker 3: and one. Oh yeah, then they kind of mastered that play.
Speaker 6: Yes, ton, what if your block of punt and fall
Speaker 6: on it in the end zone? Where does that fall
Speaker 6: and you didn't catch it, then you didn't receive it
Speaker 6: it didn't run it in.
Speaker 2: Oh, it'd be a touchdown.
Speaker 6: So it could be, but it doesn't have to be
Speaker 6: something you fit either caught or ran in.
Speaker 1: You can even pespell on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you look at a box score, it'll
Speaker 2: say block punt and then such and such scored the touchdown.
Speaker 2: So they they don't just say block punt, touchdown. They
Speaker 2: give credit to whoever recovers that. All right, anything else
Speaker 2: that needs to be mentioned here?
Speaker 3: A funky stat, isn't it? Kirk Cousins stat wise, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame stats.
Speaker 2: You're just saying numbers can lie.
Speaker 4: They do.
Speaker 2: They do, because when you look at what he's done
Speaker 2: in primetime, I'm more amazed by Eli Manning was six
Speaker 2: and seventeen in primetime games. Andy Dalton won one out
Speaker 2: of fifteen primetime games. Aaron Rodgers sub five hundred, Roethlisberger
Speaker 2: sub five hundred, Kirk Cousins four and ten in primetime
Speaker 2: road games.
Speaker 4: Stat the day that past, stead of the day, stat
Speaker 4: of the day, here comes that what stead of the.
Speaker 3: Yes, Paul David Tyree should get a job at Omaha Productions.
Speaker 3: He's he is should be lifetime lifetime All pass that
Speaker 3: that puts him in the Hall of Fame. You're a
Speaker 3: regular season five hundred quarterback. You didn't lead the league
Speaker 3: in any categories except for interceptions in your career three times.
Speaker 3: And believe me, I love Eli Manning. He's great, but
Speaker 3: he's not a Hall of Famer. He's going to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3: He did lead them and was very responsible.
Speaker 2: He had two incredible years postseason.
Speaker 3: His status and two postseasons were very good.
Speaker 2: Yes, if if I just looked at those and I
Speaker 2: didn't attach two super Bowl wins to it, he would
Speaker 2: not be a Hall of Famer even with one super Bowl.
Speaker 2: You could make an argument there.
Speaker 1: Yes, Mark, in twenty five years, no one's even gonna
Speaker 1: know about his record or anything like that. You're gonna
Speaker 1: know about the two Super Bowl rings. So I didn't
Speaker 1: know Joe Namath had more interceptions than touchdowns. Yeah, until
Speaker 1: I was an adult. All I knew was super Bowl
Speaker 1: three and the guarantee. So in twenty years, Oh no,
Speaker 1: they don't even know, nor will they care.
Speaker 3: Two rings in a jacket, that's it, and beating.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady twice. He didn't beat Rich Ganning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Jim Plunkett won two Super Bowls.
Speaker 1: He didn't beat Tom Brady.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but nobody talks about like his regular season number.
Speaker 2: They just say, oh, yeah, Jim Plunkett, Yeah he won two.
Speaker 2: Not getting in the Hall of Fame, it's.
Speaker 3: Fair for Jim Plunkett was somewhat of a bust coming
Speaker 3: out of college. He didn't work out that well. But
Speaker 3: he was eight and two in the postseason's career, two
Speaker 3: playoff runs where he played great and two rings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know what is expected of quarterbacks now.
Speaker 2: If you go back and look at Bob Greasy or
Speaker 2: Bart Starr's stats, you'd go, man, how did they keep
Speaker 2: their jobs? But they were part of great teams, some
Speaker 2: of the greatest teams of all time. But what was
Speaker 2: ask of you back then is different than what's ask
Speaker 2: of you now. You have to be able to put
Speaker 2: up big numbers. Everybody's throwing the football. Back then, the
Speaker 2: Dolphins had an unbelievable running attack. The Packers had an
Speaker 2: unbelievable running attack. They were game managers, true game managers,
Speaker 2: and that's all you needed to do. You were part
Speaker 2: of a great team and you got rewarded as a
Speaker 2: result of that. I mean even the Vikings. When the
Speaker 2: Vikings lost Super Bowls, those players weren't rewarded. They got
Speaker 2: to the super Bowl, but they weren't rewarded because they
Speaker 2: didn't win. When you win, we look at you differently.
Speaker 2: And quarterbacks nowadays and put up you know, three hundred
Speaker 2: passing time. That used to be incredible. I remember looking
Speaker 2: at that stat with fran Tarkington three hundred and ten touchdowns.
Speaker 2: I go, nobody's gonna throw for three hundred and ten touchdowns.
Speaker 2: Now it feels like you have to throw for three
Speaker 2: hundred touchdowns. Used to be like five hundred home runs.
Speaker 2: You gotta gotta hit five hundred home runs. Now it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: not a big deal. Hey you only hit five hundred
Speaker 2: home runs?
Speaker 1: Yes, Mark, it's like fifty home runs now, Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: like Matt Olsen, who's that?
Speaker 2: Although I think it's weird how it got more interesting
Speaker 2: and it felt like more important when you go, nobody's
Speaker 2: hitting that that amount of home runs, and you know
Speaker 2: people are hitting a lot of home runs. It's just
Speaker 2: you know, Olsen has fifty one. Although I did see
Speaker 2: a stat here here's something for you. This is pretty
Speaker 2: mind boggling. Kyle Schwarber, he has struck out one hundred
Speaker 2: and ninety two times this year. Now, I think he
Speaker 2: said forty home runs might be the worst forty home
Speaker 2: run season in baseball history. So Kyle Schwarber of the
Speaker 2: Phillies has struck out one hundred ninety two times. Tony
Speaker 2: Gwynn struck out one hundred and eighty eight times in
Speaker 2: the nineties, Right Darius.
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Speaker 2: So in the decade of the nineties, Tony Gwinn struck
Speaker 2: out one hundred eighty eight times. Kyle Schwarber has struck
Speaker 2: out one ninety two this season. Also, here's one for you.
Speaker 2: Tony Gwynn once went fifteen hundred at bats without striking
Speaker 2: out in consecutive played appearances. Fifteen hundred. But the wait,
Speaker 2: there's more. With Tony gwyn sixty nine times in his
Speaker 2: career he had runners on second and third with two outs.
Speaker 2: He never struck out from age thirty five until forty one.
Speaker 2: Tony Gwynn batted a combined three point fifty. I know
Speaker 2: we don't value batting average. I certainly like a guy
Speaker 2: who puts the ball in play. I have a better
Speaker 2: chance of getting on than if I strike out, right,
Speaker 2: That's just logic there. But hey, we want you if
Speaker 2: you walk and you hit a home run.
Speaker 3: Yes, Kyle Schwarmer is this generation's Adam Done. Adam Dunn
Speaker 3: led the league in strikeouts like four or five times.
Speaker 3: He would always hit forty home runs, hit like two nineteen.
Speaker 3: I think Kyle Schwarmer is hitting under two hundred this year.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you know which team has hit the most home
Speaker 2: runs in the history of baseball? I did not know this.
Speaker 2: The Braves are closing in. The Braves have hit two
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty two home runs. That's the fourth most
Speaker 2: in a season in baseball history, the single season record, Paulie.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go. I'm trying to get the date. I'm
Speaker 3: going to go early nineties Oakland A's.
Speaker 2: Nope, nope. How about I give you a big hint.
Speaker 2: It was set in twenty nineteen. Come on, yeah, this
Speaker 2: team hit three hundred and seven home runs. Yankees Nope, Marvin.
Speaker 1: I know the answer. Accusing myself.
Speaker 2: Why why start now.
Speaker 3: Shifted direction?
Speaker 2: Why start doing that now? Mary, let's just called.
Speaker 3: Back to curtain.
Speaker 1: That's my right.
Speaker 3: The Wizard of Oz, the Brewers.
Speaker 2: The Minnesota Twins. I said, Minnesota, you got it. In
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, hit three hundred and seven home runs. Can
Speaker 2: you name a Minnesota Twin in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3: Joe Mauer?
Speaker 2: Isn't that amazing? The Twins hit the most home runs
Speaker 2: in a season in baseball history, all these great lineups,
Speaker 2: the Twins. Yeah, Poem.
Speaker 3: It's weird because it feels like we're out of the
Speaker 3: PD steroid era. Like no one's questioning Matt Olson. No
Speaker 3: one's questioning somebody. But we're in the don't care if
Speaker 3: you strike out, launch angle, only play for home run era.
Speaker 3: So there's could be a bunch of dudes hitting forty
Speaker 3: and fifty and no one's going to stand out.
Speaker 2: Did you see that article I think ESPN on the
Speaker 2: biogenesis with the whole controversy with steroids, and that a
Speaker 2: Rod ratted out Manny Ramirez, shocker, and he ratted out
Speaker 2: a few guys and Beeves trying to save himself. But
Speaker 2: I don't know why this came up a decade later,
Speaker 2: but I think ESPN did a deep dive. What was
Speaker 2: the guy's name, Tony?
Speaker 3: Was it Bosh Biogenesis? He was the operator?
Speaker 2: Yes, remember that the mini mall? Yeah, yes, Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: like some like strip mall that you drive by and
Speaker 2: you're like, that's where baseball is getting bigger.
Speaker 3: Right there in the documents, it says that a rod
Speaker 3: named Manny Ramirez, Ryan Braun and another All Star player
Speaker 3: whose name they don't have as clients of Biogenesis as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he was trying to Hey, I'm going
Speaker 2: to give you these names. Can you, you know, not
Speaker 2: out me with this?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's become the face of baseball there for the
Speaker 2: mother ship. Let's see Jim in Ohio. Hi Jim, what's
Speaker 2: on your mind today?
Speaker 7: Good morning Dan, Good morning Dan, Abs morning John. I
Speaker 7: want to question regarding Mike Tomplin. I do agree with
Speaker 7: you that Steelers aren't going to fire him, but don't
Speaker 7: you think it's time they sit him down in the
Speaker 7: encourage him to semi voluntarily resign. I mean, their offense
Speaker 7: has been dismal for several years now, and really this
Speaker 7: whole Canada issue falls on Tomlin's shoulders. So I think
Speaker 7: every game. In fact, I think they're past the time
Speaker 7: of winning. That happened several years ago. And I'm a
Speaker 7: Steelers fan. I have been for fifty years now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, thanks for the phone call, Jim. I don't know.
Speaker 2: He's still a damn good coach. I think he got
Speaker 2: a lot out of that team last year, and I
Speaker 2: don't think there were high expectations for them. You got
Speaker 2: a good receiver, you got a good potentially a good quarterback,
Speaker 2: you got a running game, got some defensive players. We
Speaker 2: were also wondered about this when the Chicago Bears picked
Speaker 2: up Chase Claypool. Like, the first thing I would say
Speaker 2: is Mike Tomlin is making Chase Claypole available. Mike Tomlin
Speaker 2: doesn't get rid of good players. Like when you go, hmmm,
Speaker 2: why does he want to get rid of this guy?
Speaker 2: If you see Chase Claypole, you'd go, man, that guy.
Speaker 2: He is going to be an All Pro, He's going
Speaker 2: to be a star. And then you watch him play
Speaker 2: and you go, does he even like football?
Speaker 3: That's a very good description.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he does. I've said this before
Speaker 2: many times. There are guys who are really good at sports.
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean they love sports. There's just guys where
Speaker 2: you go, oh my god, Calvin Benjamin. I remember walking
Speaker 2: on the field in Denver opening night and Carolina came
Speaker 2: out and I go, that's a basket. Like the Nuggets
Speaker 2: just came onto the floor. And you see Kelvin Benjamin
Speaker 2: and you're thinking that guy should be Calvin Johnson. He was,
Speaker 2: you know, like you were watching him. You're going and
Speaker 2: I remember Chase Claypole at Notre Dame and I'm thinking
Speaker 2: he's that tight end wide receiver. He's going to be great.
Speaker 2: I just don't know if he loves football.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark, he's got all the physical tools, Yes he.
Speaker 2: Does, thank you.
Speaker 1: I hate that so much. Else he's got all the
Speaker 1: physical tools, yeah, all right? Does he like to play football?
Speaker 3: And if any team needs engaged wide receivers, it's a barrassing.
Speaker 2: I think I need some mental tools, not necessarily physical,
Speaker 2: like mental do you want to play?
Speaker 1: You know what, Dan, if he puts it all together?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you never know? Yeah yeah, potential, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: po potential? All right? Play the day is up next.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I've got a pile of the face bet Russell
Speaker 8: Wilson Pie of the face bet. But I wanted to
Speaker 8: share a little fun fact that I was doing a
Speaker 8: deep dive on Week one comparisons this year and last year.
Speaker 8: The Broncos played the Seahawks. Last year first game of
Speaker 8: the season, Week one, Seahawks won seventeen sixteen. This year
Speaker 8: Broncos played the Raiders. Raiders won seventeen sixteen. Don't know
Speaker 8: if it means anything but kind of a fun fact there.
Speaker 2: All right, Thank you, Tom. What's your pie of the
Speaker 2: face bet?
Speaker 8: My part of the face bet is going to be
Speaker 8: with anyone in the room that Russell Wilson will be benched.
Speaker 8: Now that means maybe taking out maybe in the third
Speaker 8: quarter there behind or whatever like that. I think Sem
Speaker 8: Payton's going to take an opportunity to bench Russell Wilson
Speaker 8: on one game this year.
Speaker 2: Oh this year. But what if he gets hurt? Now?
Speaker 2: Is that? Like just performance benching is what you're talking about.
Speaker 8: Tom, You can be the mediator on that, Dad. I
Speaker 8: was thinking, yeah, I was thinking just for.
Speaker 2: Performance, all right, performance based benching for Russell Wilson Junior
Speaker 2: the third anybody want a piece of time, pie to
Speaker 2: the face anybody, anybody?
Speaker 3: I'm not taking it. Could it could be one of
Speaker 3: those blowouts where they protect him and they put in
Speaker 3: Jared Stadham or over the back of.
Speaker 2: His Yeah, but that wouldn't be performance related.
Speaker 3: Yeah it might be.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't allow that one to happen.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah. If he's just you know, six for twenty two
Speaker 2: with two interceptions, then that's performance based.
Speaker 1: I could see that happening.
Speaker 6: If he's saying before the season, you'll stop kissing babies,
Speaker 6: and they took away his special locker room or whatever
Speaker 6: special setup he had, you know, it's definitely within reason
Speaker 6: that he would have Russell said, if he's not doing
Speaker 6: what he's supposed to be doing, No Seaton, No, I.
Speaker 5: Don't see that happening. The Russell Wilson disrespect right now
Speaker 5: is just off the charts. Who would you rather have
Speaker 5: a quarterback for your team? Kirk Cousins or Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5: Do you want to take a guess?
Speaker 2: I hope people are saying Russell Wilson that they would take.
Speaker 2: Some people are, but not a majority.
Speaker 5: Uh No, it's about a eighty one to nineteen split
Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins. Oh now, is that a statement on Russell
Speaker 5: Wilson struggling or Kirk Cousins playing well or likability or likability?
Speaker 2: I don't know if people realize what Kirk Cousins did
Speaker 2: opening week. I don't know if you say this is
Speaker 2: recency bias, that would just be based on what Russell
Speaker 2: did last season. I mean Russell looked pretty good the
Speaker 2: first week, Yeah, Tod.
Speaker 6: I think if Russell Wilson didn't tell everyone how he
Speaker 6: was working out on the plane while everyone else was sleeping,
Speaker 6: and didn't through the subway commercials, I think would be
Speaker 6: more like sixty forty Cousins.
Speaker 2: Wait, you don't think that the fans they like Russell
Speaker 2: Wilson the person. I mean, he hasn't played. He didn't
Speaker 2: play well at all last year.
Speaker 1: Is that what this is?
Speaker 2: This isn't performance as this is this likability people.
Speaker 1: Still satisfactored in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people like Kirk Cousins more than they like Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2: I think people started to like Kirk Cousins when they
Speaker 2: got to know him. I think there was That's why
Speaker 2: I said when I started the show, I don't know
Speaker 2: why he's not liked. Is it because he did that
Speaker 2: quarterback thing?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: And you got to watch him, You're like, oh, look, man,
Speaker 2: this dude's putting in work.
Speaker 5: He's just not He might not be great, you know,
Speaker 5: because he's putting in a lot of work, and this
Speaker 5: is like the best you're going to get out of him.
Speaker 2: We should root for somebody like him. But what Russell
Speaker 2: Wilson's doing the same thing, isn't he? But we we
Speaker 2: have rooted for Russell Wilson. We never rooted for Kirk
Speaker 2: D Cousins. I don't know. I don't know about that.
Speaker 2: Russ went to he won a Super Bowl, lost to
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, he married Siarra.
Speaker 3: He've he's done well, not in that order either, by
Speaker 3: the way, Yeah, I bet.
Speaker 2: I feel like years ago though, there was a good
Speaker 2: stretch of time that we did these types of poll
Speaker 2: questions with Kirk Cousins and it was like, no, I'm
Speaker 2: telling you you want Kirk Cousins over Cam Newton or
Speaker 2: something like that, you know what I mean, Like who
Speaker 2: would you pay more? All right?
Speaker 5: He had a real underdog quality to him for a
Speaker 5: long time. Yes, and now you just might haven't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know this was the narrative, as they
Speaker 2: like to say, Well, he's winning because of the defense.
Speaker 2: And then when the defense kind of fell apart, then
Speaker 2: we're like, all right, let's see if for Russ can cook.
Speaker 2: And then I think that's when things started to change
Speaker 2: a little bit there. And then there were stories that
Speaker 2: came out and then people I think kind of soured
Speaker 2: on him a little bit, like he kind of goofy thin,
Speaker 2: He's not normal. He's always got a tuckseedo in his
Speaker 2: back seat of his car. But he would go to
Speaker 2: he would go to hospitals, he would do all these
Speaker 2: great things, but it felt like he wasn't endearing himself
Speaker 2: to people.
Speaker 5: It starts to come with an eye roll sometimes, like,
Speaker 5: of course he's saved that puppy too, of course he did.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he was working out on the trip to
Speaker 2: London while his teammates were sleeping.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, say your prayers, eat your vitamins type guy like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, would you stop already?
Speaker 5: Which is so weird because I know that I do it.
Speaker 5: I know I'm definitely an eye roller for things. But
Speaker 5: it's like, man, the dude's just trying to be a
Speaker 5: good person. Maybe he's just trying.
Speaker 2: Too hard to be a Yes he is, Yes, he
Speaker 2: is try hard.
Speaker 1: Yes, save the puppy.
Speaker 2: Of course, on your way to practice that day, you
Speaker 2: save the puppy. Yeah, he threw himself in front of
Speaker 2: a you know, a moving van and save the puppy.
Speaker 2: Very brave, thank you, see the puppy. Come on, Russell,
Speaker 2: save the puppy. Come on, kidd, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 3: I have quarterback ratings after week one. The number of
Speaker 3: who's leading the NFL right now in quarterback rating Jordan Love,
Speaker 3: Second is Desmond Ritter, Third is Brock Purty. Want another
Speaker 3: bottom four Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Daniel Jones, Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 3: week one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a thing I saw too that people
Speaker 2: were like week one, these four quarterback salaries add up
Speaker 2: to you know, one point five billion dollars and they
Speaker 2: combined for one touchdown. And it's a long season. That
Speaker 2: is it is long. I mean it's basically still the
Speaker 2: preseason anyway. Yeah, well the first month. Yeah, according to
Speaker 2: coach Belichick, should we do the uh.
Speaker 9: The game?
Speaker 2: And what was the phrase? We had the winningest or
Speaker 2: most winning winningest game this weekend? Win? Yeah, the mustiest,
Speaker 2: must win musty. It's a little smells a little funny. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you gotta win. Yeah, must winning this game this
Speaker 2: weekend Jaguars. Maybe we'll change that up for Hour two.
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