WEBVTT - Chicago White Sox Walk-off Magic

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, folks, welcome to a new episode of The Sox

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<v Speaker 2>Machine podcast, part of the File Territory Network. I'm your

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<v Speaker 2>host Josh Nelson, and we're recording this episode on Sunday night,

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<v Speaker 2>August twenty third. And what a dramatic weekend was for

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<v Speaker 2>the Chicago White Sox as they win the series against

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Mets thanks to the lawn ball so

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<v Speaker 2>Ball Go Far, Team Go Far. The White Sox win

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<v Speaker 2>both games thanks to the walk off home run from

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<v Speaker 2>Jake Rogers and Tristan Peters. Of course, the most likely

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<v Speaker 2>of home run hitters for the Chicago White Sox, but

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<v Speaker 2>in this episode we'll also talk about the struggles for

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<v Speaker 2>Luis Castillo and review this week's series. As the Texas

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<v Speaker 2>Rangers are making a comeback in the American League picture

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<v Speaker 2>postseason picture. Not only are they try and chase down

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<v Speaker 2>the Cleveland Guardians for the wildcard spot, but they have

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<v Speaker 2>tied with the Houston Astros and Americ League West, so

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<v Speaker 2>this is a big series for the Texas Rangers this

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<v Speaker 2>week in Chicago. Let's take a quick look at the

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<v Speaker 2>American League Central standings and again the White Sox winning

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<v Speaker 2>two out of three against the Mets, they still have

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<v Speaker 2>the lead. They are sixty eight and sixty two. The

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<v Speaker 2>Cleveland Guardians swept the Colorado Rockies, so they're back at

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five and sixty six to They're back at just

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<v Speaker 2>one game below five hundred and also back into the

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<v Speaker 2>postseason picture. They currently host the or hold i should say,

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<v Speaker 2>the final wildcard spot. The Minnesota Twins were swept by

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<v Speaker 2>the San Diego Padres, so they're five and a half

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<v Speaker 2>games back with the White Sox. The Kidsas City Royals

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<v Speaker 2>swept the Detroit Tigers. That is a big surprise. So

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<v Speaker 2>now the Tigers are closer to the Royals than they

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<v Speaker 2>are to the White Sox. The Tigers are seven games

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<v Speaker 2>back with the White Sox and just four games ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of the Kansas City Royals. Would you take a look

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<v Speaker 2>at the latest projections from fangrafts dot com. Fangrafts is

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<v Speaker 2>now projecting that the White Sox have a seventy three

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<v Speaker 2>point eight percent chance of reaching the postseason and their

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<v Speaker 2>odds of winning the American League Central have increased to

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<v Speaker 2>sixty one point three percent after this weekend. So let's

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<v Speaker 2>continue talking about what happened this weekend and joining me

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<v Speaker 2>is Sox Machines Baging Editor. It's Jim Margolus, and hello Jim,

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<v Speaker 2>what a dramatic weekend for the Chicago White Sox. They

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<v Speaker 2>now have eleven walk off wins this season. As you

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<v Speaker 2>were writing up the first ten walkoff wins. Makes it

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<v Speaker 2>so easy to do a top ten the best of

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<v Speaker 2>the walkoff wins, but now you have another to consider,

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<v Speaker 2>and I really think that this weekend the highlight is

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<v Speaker 2>the lawn ball gym. The home runs were crucial in

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<v Speaker 2>the White Sox winning this series.

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<v Speaker 4>They were especially Game one, the finale one homer solo

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<v Speaker 4>shot just happened to be all time. But until Grant

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<v Speaker 4>Taylor had his worst ending in quite a long time,

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<v Speaker 4>it was Andrew Benintendi doubling off the base of the wall,

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<v Speaker 4>Miguel Vargus scoring from first, you know, the classic baseball action,

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<v Speaker 4>scoring a run without the benefit of a homer, and

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<v Speaker 4>that kind of worked for them. But yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 4>the back to back to back homers before Rogers went

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<v Speaker 4>deep in the ninth that defined it. And you know

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<v Speaker 4>they kind of have to do that, and not in

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<v Speaker 4>a bad way, but it just like the way teams

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<v Speaker 4>are constructed, how important the home run is in every postseason,

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<v Speaker 4>it's always a plot line is you need to figure

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<v Speaker 4>out different ways to score runs in October. Invariably it's

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<v Speaker 4>the team that hit the most homers that succeed in October.

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<v Speaker 4>So as much as you'd like to have that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of well rounded offense and have the really good sound

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<v Speaker 4>performance with runners in scoring position, it's just the state

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<v Speaker 4>of pitching in twenty twenty six, the state of hitting

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty twenty six to combat that pitching is such

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<v Speaker 4>that it's really hard to string together three good played

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<v Speaker 4>appearances in a row. And every team, or at least

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<v Speaker 4>most teams struggle with runners in scoring position. This conversation

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<v Speaker 4>we have about runners in scoring position with the White

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<v Speaker 4>Sox happens basically across the league. So yeah, it is

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<v Speaker 4>a you know, a I shouldn't say problem, but like

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<v Speaker 4>a core identity of the White Sox. They have to

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<v Speaker 4>hit the home run. And it's it's rather than I

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<v Speaker 4>guess you moaning or saying like, well, they gotta figure

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<v Speaker 4>out other ways to score. Probably the simpler way to say,

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<v Speaker 4>keep hitting homers, keep having balls hit over the top

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<v Speaker 4>of the fence and over hit, over gloves and over

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<v Speaker 4>whatever it takes to get the ball over the fence.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a lot simpler that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And there was this tweet that I saw from

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<v Speaker 2>ESPN Insights that Tristan Peters walk off home run on

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday was the White Sox fit walk off home run

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<v Speaker 2>this season. That's the most major League Baseball in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six. Tristan Peters is the fifth different White Sox

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<v Speaker 2>hitter to have a walk off home run. So the

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<v Speaker 2>list is Bradon Montgomery, Edgar Carrow, Jake Rodgers, Miguel Vargus,

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<v Speaker 2>and now Tristan Peters, and for this White Sox team,

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<v Speaker 2>again thanks to this weekend, they continue to climb up

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<v Speaker 2>as far as the leader board for most home runs

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<v Speaker 2>hit by any team in Major League Baseball. The Washington

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<v Speaker 2>Nationals still lead the league with one hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 2>three home runs. The Yankees are second, which is impressive

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<v Speaker 2>because they really haven't had Aaron Judge for most of

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<v Speaker 2>the season. They have one hundred and seventy nine home runs.

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<v Speaker 2>The Cubs hit a lot of home runs this weekend

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<v Speaker 2>against the Seattle Mariner, so the White Sox and Cubs

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<v Speaker 2>fittingly are both tied with one hundred and seventy four.

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<v Speaker 2>The Astros are one home run behind. They have one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and seventy three. The Reds have one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>sixty nine, the Braves have one hundred and sixty seven,

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<v Speaker 2>and so do the Dodgers. So a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>teams that are in the postseason race are closer to

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<v Speaker 2>the top of the home run leader board when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to Major League Baseball. But then again, for the

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<v Speaker 2>purest and for the old school, they will point at

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<v Speaker 2>the Milwaukee Brewers towards the bottom and say the Brewers

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<v Speaker 2>are the best record of Ajor League Baseball and they

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<v Speaker 2>don't hit a lot of home runs, So that is

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<v Speaker 2>a fair counterpoint. But there's more wedding teams towards the

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<v Speaker 2>top when it comes to the home runs. But Jim,

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<v Speaker 2>the White Sox are on pace to hit two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and seventeen home runs. To me, that is eye opening.

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<v Speaker 2>If you told me before the season that the White

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<v Speaker 2>Sox have a great chance of hitting two hundred home runs,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be wondering, from who is Austin Hayes hitting twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five home runs this season? But here we are, and

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely think they're going to hit two hundred. But

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the question is, do you see this White

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<v Speaker 2>Sox team reaching this projection of hitting close to two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and seventeen home runs this season?

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<v Speaker 4>Some context for two seventeen, just because I wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>see exactly where this fits in terms of what other

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<v Speaker 4>teams have done. That would tie for fifth among all

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<v Speaker 4>White Sox teams, all of them in the aughts. So

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<v Speaker 4>two thousand and four they hit two forty two, two

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<v Speaker 4>thousand and six, two thirty six, two thousand and eight,

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<v Speaker 4>two thirty five, twenty three to twenty two thousand and

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<v Speaker 4>two two seventeen, so they would tie that team and

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<v Speaker 4>then you have actually, yeah, the first one, two three,

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<v Speaker 4>seven years or all in the oughts, because then you

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<v Speaker 4>have two thousand and two followed by two thousand and

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<v Speaker 4>two thousand and one. Uh So, if it feels like

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<v Speaker 4>it's that great of offense, it doesn't feel like that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you don't have the yeah kind of a

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<v Speaker 4>big three. You don't have Frank Thomas, you know in

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<v Speaker 4>his you know, last Hurrah. I guess like in terms

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<v Speaker 4>of his original prime you don't have that kind of

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<v Speaker 4>big masher there. Uh to where you think, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>this is two hundred homer is easy. So I'm inclined

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<v Speaker 4>to say no. But then if you think about and

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<v Speaker 4>you say, you're like, well, you know, they're it feels

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<v Speaker 4>like they've eased up their pace, but not really, especially

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<v Speaker 4>in August to where like they're still on that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of two hundred and twenty home run pace and you're seeing, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>guys in the downswing a little bit like Cools Montgomery

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<v Speaker 4>has slowed up, and like, but who's compensating for him? Well,

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<v Speaker 4>you're going to talk about a communist six weeks and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, so he can make up the pace that

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<v Speaker 4>he lost in the first half. And you see like

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<v Speaker 4>the Andrew Benintendi, Randall Gritchik, the R Andrew DH doing fine.

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<v Speaker 4>You have like Brad Montgomery who's kind of underachieving from

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<v Speaker 4>a power perspective. Tristan Peters seems like he's been he

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<v Speaker 4>had been underachieving from a power perspective. It seems like

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<v Speaker 4>after that lull that he went into after the All

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<v Speaker 4>Star break, it seems like he's getting back into bringing

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<v Speaker 4>pictures into his happy zones a little bit more. And

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<v Speaker 4>then you know, maybe Kyle Teal comes back and provides

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit of something that the Catchers haven't really had.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's probably a way to compensate for guys who

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<v Speaker 4>might have to ease up or might Yeah, like Colson

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<v Speaker 4>Montgomery if he just has kind of formed the rest

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<v Speaker 4>of the season, somebody will need to step up to

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<v Speaker 4>brought by what we did in the first half, and

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<v Speaker 4>maybe there's enough depth there to make it happen. So

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<v Speaker 4>normally I kind of always bet the under on this

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<v Speaker 4>or say like, yeah, they're not going to quite get there,

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<v Speaker 4>but let's say they hit it, Like yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if they get to two twenty but I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like they could as a team get up to the

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<v Speaker 4>two seventeen level.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just fascinating that we are talking about one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best home run hitting teams in White Sox franchise history.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty six, Like again, a season of surprises. This

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<v Speaker 2>has been leading the charge. I think Jim for this surprise,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it catches a lot of people off card.

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<v Speaker 2>You hear it in national broadcast when they talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the White Sox. Now it's yeah, the White Sox still

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<v Speaker 2>leading the Central Did you know the White Sox lead

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<v Speaker 2>the American League in runs scored? And I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>that before this weekend. And that's a great fun little

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<v Speaker 2>trivia nugget for the Chicago White Sox. And it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of needs to right now, right because of how the

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<v Speaker 2>pitching situation is. But this is where as a White

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<v Speaker 2>Sox fan, Yes, Saturday did not go well, but it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really feel like sitting in the stands gym, that

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<v Speaker 2>that game was really over until like the eighth inning,

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<v Speaker 2>even when the White Sox were down seven to three

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<v Speaker 2>and they were threatening when they had the bases loaded,

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<v Speaker 2>that there was this feeling in the ballpark that they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to figure it out, like they're gonna come back,

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<v Speaker 2>just like the night before when the Mets had full

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<v Speaker 2>control of that game, gym up four to nothing and

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<v Speaker 2>then in a blink of an eye, three straight home

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<v Speaker 2>runs and the game is tied. Like while the offense

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<v Speaker 2>could be frustrating and it's not fun watching Colson Montgomery,

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<v Speaker 2>Munataka Americami gym strike out, especially with runners in scoring position,

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<v Speaker 2>but this team is still leading the pace in the

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<v Speaker 2>American League and runs scored. And this is where I

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<v Speaker 2>think other teams getting closer to the postseason can't sleep

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<v Speaker 2>on the White Sox because if you do, they have

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<v Speaker 2>this amazing ability to have these big innings to the

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<v Speaker 2>home run.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think that stat the White Sox leading the

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<v Speaker 4>American League at run scored says about as much about

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<v Speaker 4>them as it does the American League, because I looked

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<v Speaker 4>it up just to see where's it fit league wide

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<v Speaker 4>or like Major League Baseball wide, and it's a distant sixth.

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<v Speaker 4>You have the Cubs leading the way, the Nationals basically

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<v Speaker 4>within two runs of each other at the top at

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<v Speaker 4>six eighty four and six eighty two, the Dodgers six

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<v Speaker 4>fifty three, Pirates tied at six fifty three, Pirates being

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<v Speaker 4>tied with the Dodgers, that's a surprise. Then the Brewers

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<v Speaker 4>at six fifty so then thirty two runs later, you

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<v Speaker 4>get to the White Sox at number six, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>good for the White Sox, Like that's where you want

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<v Speaker 4>the White Sox to be overall, like six and baseball, sure,

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<v Speaker 4>you know that's that's great, but tops the American League.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, man, I guess with Aaron Judge being out,

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<v Speaker 4>with the Blue Jays being a disappointment, I think you're

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<v Speaker 4>probably expecting those teams be one to two in run scored,

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<v Speaker 4>and yeah, it's just it's not happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Jim mentioned it earlier, but it is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>storylines of this series. The White Sox struggles with runners

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<v Speaker 2>in scoring position. They went two for nineteen this series

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<v Speaker 2>with runners in scoring position. So if you are looking

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<v Speaker 2>for ways to improve, this would be an area for

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew bettat Teddy Jim he had four plate appearances with

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<v Speaker 2>the bases loaded in this series and all he could

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<v Speaker 2>muster was a sackfly. He had three plate appearances with

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<v Speaker 2>the bases loaded on Saturday. It just couldn't come up

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<v Speaker 2>with that big hit. For the season, the White Sox

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<v Speaker 2>have a seven to twenty three OPS with runners in

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<v Speaker 2>scoring position that ranks twentieth in Major League Baseball. I wonder,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I should ask, is this going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the White Sox offensive achilles heel as far as trying

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<v Speaker 2>to hold everyone off in the American League Central or

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<v Speaker 2>even looking ahead to the postseason of if they don't

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<v Speaker 2>win as seasies, this might be a reason why.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I feel like that's a self fulfilling prophecy in

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<v Speaker 4>a way, because that's just another way to say that

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<v Speaker 4>you didn't score runs, okay, and you know that that's

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<v Speaker 4>the way you get outscored, like you typically don't get

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<v Speaker 4>out scored not hitting at all, or you know, just

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<v Speaker 4>we you know, we lost. Uh, you know, like the

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<v Speaker 4>White soxers saying we lost in a three game series

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<v Speaker 4>and we got swept and we only came up with

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<v Speaker 4>six hits over the entire series. That's what it'd be

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<v Speaker 4>like if they lost without hitting with runners in scoring position.

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<v Speaker 4>So it almost feels like it's like the uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the horses behind the cart. They're just saying like it's uh,

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<v Speaker 4>if they lose, that's probably going to be culprit no

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<v Speaker 4>matter what, no matter what team loses, it's gonna because

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<v Speaker 4>they didn't come up with enough clutch hits and that

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<v Speaker 4>means that they you know, they were out pitched as well,

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<v Speaker 4>because that means that your pitchers didn't keep the other

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<v Speaker 4>offense in check and they didn't shut doors they limit damage.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's why it's such a tricky thing to talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's understandable. I think, especially with strikeouts, sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>you can point the finger at strikeouts and if they're chasing,

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<v Speaker 4>if they are getting pitched backwards predictably, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>you see this with looking at strike three down the middle.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's maybe a case where you're getting out

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<v Speaker 4>thought where your plan didn't work. You're not having the

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<v Speaker 4>right approach. Like that's one thing where you can say

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<v Speaker 4>they're in their heads or they are just they once

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<v Speaker 4>they get to two strikes or once they get even

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<v Speaker 4>down one, their entire plan becomes scrambled. That's something you

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<v Speaker 4>can say. But I think if it's a case where

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<v Speaker 4>you're two for seventeen, but you strike out like four

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<v Speaker 4>times and you hit grounders or you hit like pop

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<v Speaker 4>up like, that's becomes a case of like, did you

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<v Speaker 4>do you have like the inability to hit in the

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<v Speaker 4>clutch or just have a normal series and you went

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<v Speaker 4>two for seventeen. The other team went three for sixteen,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's all it took. Like the other team doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>necessarily upper form you just it's the margins are so

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<v Speaker 4>thin in a lot of games and especially the postseason,

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<v Speaker 4>when the teams get better, that it does come down

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<v Speaker 4>to you know, one or two bets over the course

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<v Speaker 4>of a game or maybe even over the course of

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<v Speaker 4>an entire series, to where it's hard to you can

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<v Speaker 4>point to it. And certainly, like every team is looking

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<v Speaker 4>to get better, and the White Sox wouldn't say we're

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<v Speaker 4>fine with runners in scoring posision. It's just really a

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<v Speaker 4>hard thing to try to address and try to We've

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<v Speaker 4>seen the White Sox kind of do this before and

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of trying to diversify the offense, and they

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<v Speaker 4>just end up scoring fewer runs because if you have

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<v Speaker 4>less power, you score a fewer runs, and if you

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<v Speaker 4>try to sequence and stack all your hits, well that's

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<v Speaker 4>a hard way to make a living. So like, that's

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<v Speaker 4>why I tend to not follow this path too far,

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<v Speaker 4>just because I think you invite creating problems by trying

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<v Speaker 4>to solve a very specific one.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the good news is they had that many opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they're getting on base, they were getting hits, they

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<v Speaker 2>were drawing walks. Miguel Vargas drew four walks. He had

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<v Speaker 2>a great obp day on Saturday against the New York Mets.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to talk of our Commi's cold right now,

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<v Speaker 2>Coles Montgomery is cold right now. But yet the White

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<v Speaker 2>Sox still won this series. I find that to be

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<v Speaker 2>a positive, and thanks to the home run, that is

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<v Speaker 2>a way that you can overcome if you're having difficulties

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<v Speaker 2>finding that one extra hit with runners in scoring position.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm happy with the nineteen number. If the White Sox

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<v Speaker 2>were six for nineteen, maybe they sweeped the Mets, Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they figure out a way to win on Saturday. But

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to bring that up because that's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the stats from this weekend. But maybe a cap tip.

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<v Speaker 2>The biggest out of all that happened this weekend, Congratulations

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<v Speaker 2>to Sam Antonachi. He now sets the new single season

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<v Speaker 2>record for getting hit by a pitch Jim twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>He did it, so congratulations to Sam. The new hit

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<v Speaker 2>by Pitch Kden for the Chicago White Sox. What an honor, Jim.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I liked that he did it too, on a

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<v Speaker 4>ball that barely clipped his leg, like a seam of

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<v Speaker 4>the ball hit a seam of his pants in that

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<v Speaker 4>being good enough, just a real sense of you know

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<v Speaker 4>his body and you know what can move and what

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<v Speaker 4>can't and what gets locked down, especially since later in

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<v Speaker 4>the game a j Ewing got his elbow out of

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<v Speaker 4>the way of a Grant Tailor fastball, and obviously you

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<v Speaker 4>know Grant Taylor fastball. Yeah you're not, Yeah, but Sam

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<v Speaker 4>and to not you know, like a guy with his

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<v Speaker 4>skill set probably doesn't get out of the way or it

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<v Speaker 4>gets like the right part of his shoulder or tricep

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<v Speaker 4>in the way and takes a glancing blow. And and

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<v Speaker 4>you know the that that prevented the Mets because Ewing

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<v Speaker 4>got of the way. You know, coward that he is.

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<v Speaker 4>I say that jokingly because that I get invited to

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<v Speaker 4>stand into a batting cage and take a ninety five

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<v Speaker 4>mile per hour fastball or don't have any interest in

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<v Speaker 4>doing that, but just with without having I guess the

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<v Speaker 4>technique or Antonachi just kind of having that be such

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<v Speaker 4>a part of his game is just like I gotta

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<v Speaker 4>get on base no matter what, and I will especially

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<v Speaker 4>the bases loaded. Uh, you would imagine see that those

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<v Speaker 4>shoulders kind of fixed in place there and just only

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<v Speaker 4>rotating with the hip to try to get a piece

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<v Speaker 4>of them. But that you know, that changed the game

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<v Speaker 4>with you and getting on the way. So I think,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it is a testament to Antonagi's ability to

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<v Speaker 4>just kind of understand where his body is going to

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<v Speaker 4>be and what parts can afford to be fixed in

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<v Speaker 4>place and still not miss a game. With this, I

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<v Speaker 4>will say that's a little bittersweet that. You know, Minni

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<v Speaker 4>Minoso held that record for fifty six so seventy years

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<v Speaker 4>share of it. Like Carlos Quinton seemed like he should

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<v Speaker 4>have lapped them, but you know he had the injury

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<v Speaker 4>in that one year. But like Minoso led that led

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<v Speaker 4>the league ten times and hit by pitches. That was

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<v Speaker 4>a big part of his game. That was, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>part of how he got in base so much, and

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<v Speaker 4>then you know he ran like hell when he got

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<v Speaker 4>on the bases, and it was really a big part

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<v Speaker 4>of the identity of those teams. So to see him

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<v Speaker 4>not off that perch is a little sad, But then

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<v Speaker 4>I remember that Minosa is in the Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 4>and all those little things of just like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you gotta remember how he's hit by pitches and how

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<v Speaker 4>he led the league in triples and stolen bases and

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<v Speaker 4>really redefined the game, and a lot of that's you

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<v Speaker 4>got to remember this guy is because he wasn't in

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<v Speaker 4>the Hall, and so now that he is, it's a

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<v Speaker 4>lot simpler to say, oh, he's a Hall of Famer

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<v Speaker 4>and then have that summarize or be a shorthand reference

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<v Speaker 4>for just how good he was in a variety of ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, congratulations to Sam. Maybe he could get to thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>He's currently second right now in Major League Baseball with

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four hit by pitches. Ivan Herrera for Saint Louis

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<v Speaker 2>has been hit by a pitch twenty seven times, so

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<v Speaker 2>we may have a couple of players who reached the

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<v Speaker 2>thirty mark this season. We're going to take a quick

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<v Speaker 2>the trade deadline, especially Luis Castillo as he struggled again

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the Sox Machi podcast. Let's quickly review

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<v Speaker 2>what happened for Luis Castillo. So even though the home

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<v Speaker 2>runs and the walk off wins, very exciting, very happy

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<v Speaker 2>to be a White Sox fan winning that series against

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<v Speaker 2>the Mets, Luis Castillo is a big reason why Saturday

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<v Speaker 2>went sideway for the White Sox, as he did not

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<v Speaker 2>get through the third inning. He threw eighty two bitches.

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<v Speaker 2>He threw over forty pitches in that third inning and

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<v Speaker 2>still couldn't get out of the inning. So his final

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<v Speaker 2>line was two and two thirds against the Mets with

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<v Speaker 2>eight hits, four earned runs allowed, one walk, and three strikeouts.

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<v Speaker 2>And since Castillo has joined the Chicago White Sox in

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<v Speaker 2>four starts, it's only eighteen and a third innings. His

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<v Speaker 2>earn run average with the White Sox is five point

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<v Speaker 2>eight nine, he's walked five and he has struck out nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten of those strikeouts came in the one start against Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's kind of brought into attention for me Jim.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as the trade deadline moves for the White Sox,

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<v Speaker 2>we graded Chris Gatz. You gave him a CE I

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<v Speaker 2>split C plus James Vegan. Now the Sun Times gave

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<v Speaker 2>them a B. And when we're looking at these moves

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<v Speaker 2>and the immediate impact, I know it's just three weeks

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<v Speaker 2>after the trade deadline, but the White Sox are not

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<v Speaker 2>getting much from Luis Castillo. Huascar brazobah Is, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what's going on with him, as he gave up

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<v Speaker 2>another home run on Saturday night, Brenton Doyle has been okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Joey Bart probably missing the rest of this season because

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:27.920
<v Speaker 2>of an injury. So the best acquisition so far is

0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Jose Orchidi, which we all predicted when the White Sox

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:35.440
<v Speaker 2>made that trade. What are we supposed to do with this?

0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I know it's only three weeks, Jim, And sometimes we

0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:41.640
<v Speaker 2>fall into this trap as far as the sports media world,

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:43.920
<v Speaker 2>where we just instantly have to come up with a

0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:47.240
<v Speaker 2>verdict on how moves went. But is there something here?

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 2>Maybe the lesson learned from the Miguel Vargas trade where

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:55.359
<v Speaker 2>we really harshly graded Chris s Gatz and what the

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:58.480
<v Speaker 2>White Sox did in that move. When now we look

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:02.600
<v Speaker 2>at how that move happened two years ago, and everyone's

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 2>thrilled because not only are the White Sox taking advantage

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:08.560
<v Speaker 2>of Miguel Vargas now and his production, but they still

0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 2>have Eric Betty Funny how baseball life works. So I guess,

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:17.320
<v Speaker 2>with that experience of just two trade deadlines ago and

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 2>how Vargas has become the player that he has, should

0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:24.240
<v Speaker 2>we be a little bit more cautious before casting judgment

0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:27.800
<v Speaker 2>and what happened to the White Sox at this trade deadline?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and no. I would say that when it comes

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:36.400
<v Speaker 4>to like wasatcar Brasabon and the way he's pitched so far,

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 4>like he's there for immediate help. He was supposed to

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:42.920
<v Speaker 4>be plug and play. It looked like a fine pickup

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 4>for a decent price, and fine in terms of like

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 4>we say, like satisfactory, not fine in terms of like

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:51.200
<v Speaker 4>very good. You look like he was more or less

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 4>fit the bill for what they needed is just right

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:57.440
<v Speaker 4>hand and depth. But looking into his late season performances,

0:25:57.440 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 4>there's a tendency of fur fade there. And he faded

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:01.640
<v Speaker 4>with the met when they acquired him from the Marlins

0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:04.639
<v Speaker 4>for the last couple of months, and so that and

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:08.640
<v Speaker 4>then fangrafts commentaries as well, saying like, well he could

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:12.240
<v Speaker 4>very well turn into a pumpkin reading the post and

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:14.720
<v Speaker 4>comments there, and sure enough, like it happened immediately. So

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 4>that's one where you think, like, well, was there a

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:21.439
<v Speaker 4>scouting mist there or was there a case of just

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, maybe not paying enough heat, especially for a

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 4>season where he's being worked fairly regularly. Is thirty six

0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 4>years old. He's a young thirty six in terms of

0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 4>major League mileage, but he's he's lived quite the career.

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:38.840
<v Speaker 4>So that's one where I'd say, like, it's that doesn't

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 4>quite fit the Vargas path. Same thing with Castillo. That

0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:46.919
<v Speaker 4>was the one I was most skeptical about because it

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:48.960
<v Speaker 4>seemed like they were running a risk of taking a

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:52.240
<v Speaker 4>bad Sir Anthony, Diminga's contract and making it worse because

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:55.880
<v Speaker 4>of just either Diminga's fatigue or feeling like there's a

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 4>by low gamble here with Castillo. But if it's not,

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 4>then like now you're with a more onerous contract to

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:05.920
<v Speaker 4>try to have to unload or work around on the books,

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:09.160
<v Speaker 4>especially if they're not ready to really scale up their

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 4>spending yet. So that's one where I kind of concerned

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:15.679
<v Speaker 4>me in terms of, like, is this like a just

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 4>a panic move and just the the operative of getting

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 4>out from under Domingas and avoiding awkwardness of the bullpen.

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 4>He invited a different kind of problem by bringing in Castillo.

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:27.119
<v Speaker 4>I think Doyle might be the one that fits the

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 4>Vargas one of the most. He's not like a post

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:31.360
<v Speaker 4>type prospect. He's had a few years, and he's had

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:34.639
<v Speaker 4>like one good year already with the Rockies, but in

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:39.159
<v Speaker 4>terms of hasn't been able to recapture it. You know,

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 4>he's been kind of out of sorts. He came to

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 4>the White Sox wanting to feel like he used to,

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:47.199
<v Speaker 4>and the White Sox might have an idea for it.

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 4>In the meantime, serves a purpose of helping protect Tristan

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:55.360
<v Speaker 4>Peters a little bit against lefties and gives the White

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 4>Sox as true centerfielders, so Peters doesn't have to be

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:00.159
<v Speaker 4>out there if the White Sox really would rather or

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:03.119
<v Speaker 4>avoid it. So he already serves a purpose now the

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:05.440
<v Speaker 4>way like Vargas served a purpose by getting starts even

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 4>when it was going awful for him and he looked miserable.

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 4>And that's the one guy I would say, like, let's

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 4>wait for next year for that one to kind of

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 4>have a verdict there because at least he's playing defense

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 4>up the middle and that helps his team. But I

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 4>think with Castillo and Brasobauond and just you know Castillo, yeah,

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 4>he has another year of control. Brazo Bond's got multiple

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 4>years of team control, so you don't want to write

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 4>him off immediately. But they were veterans acquired for immediate help.

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:35.440
<v Speaker 4>And when Castillo doesn't go three innings and with Brazemon

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 4>gets he's he's getting rocked right now. I mean it's

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 4>not only runs, but just just a stream of hard

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 4>hit balls and balls hit in the air. The ground

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 4>ball rates like half of what it was with the Mets.

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:49.240
<v Speaker 4>Like that's that's scary, or like that's uh, now that's

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:51.480
<v Speaker 4>the front man or bulman. He might be optioned. The

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 4>White Sox might have to option him if it keeps

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 4>going that way, just because of it's not working and

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 4>and when's he going to pitch? So that's I think,

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, and Joey Bart is irrelevant just because of

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 4>two games bad luck. They have Jake Rodgers. Now he

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 4>fits that veteran catcher bill, so you just shrug off

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 4>that one. But yeah, I think that's you can't quite say,

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, wait for Miguil Vargas, just because they are

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 4>competing this year. And while these moves have twenty twenty

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:25.880
<v Speaker 4>seven value, theoretically, Chris Getz really needed to help twenty

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 4>twenty six as well, given where the team is.

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just I'm a bit surprised that they're not

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 2>getting much out of Luis Castillo Jim, at least on

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 2>the innings front, like a first start, four innings, second start,

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:44.720
<v Speaker 2>best start, and one that we thought was going to

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 2>spur a comeback for Luis Castilla when he went seven

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 2>innings against Cincinnati his last two his third start against

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 2>the Cubs, four and two thirds innings. Can't get out

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 2>of the fifth inning. Maybe if Vargas makes that defensive player,

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 2>if he doesn't throw it past Mark, maybe Castillo gets

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 2>through that fifth inning. But he just did not. He

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 2>didn't have like a strikeout pitch against the Mets, like,

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 2>he just could not get out of that third inning.

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Just really high pitch counts, only going two and two thirds. Yeah,

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 2>just he just couldn't figure out an outpitch like against

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 2>the Mets. And it's only eighteen innings that he's covered

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 2>in forced arts And I really thought this is a

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 2>guy that could give you at least five you know,

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:36.479
<v Speaker 2>the White Sox really need that right now. And if

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:40.680
<v Speaker 2>he is a liability, I know we're talking about like

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:43.479
<v Speaker 2>the White Sox starting rotation is like three guys and

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 2>then it's two bullpen games, but really it just feels

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 2>like two and a half starting pitchers. I have confidence

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 2>in Anthony K. Jim. I have confidence that Sean Burke

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 2>no idea what Luis Castillo. Like, right now, out of

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 2>the first four starts, it's more likely that they're going

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 2>to have to use the bullpen for at least five

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 2>innings in a Luis Castillo's start, and that completely defeats

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 2>the purpose and why the White Sox acquired him in

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 2>the first place. So I kind of put the onus

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 2>on Castillo here because Jim, he's the veteran, Like, I

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 2>don't know how quickly the White Sox can make adjustments

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 2>with him, And I know that they want him to

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 2>throw more change ups as far as like the pitch

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 2>calling mix. But he's got to step it up here, man,

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Like that can't happen again like it did against the Mets.

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 2>So the next time he makes a start for the

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 2>White Sox, it's going to be a big one. It's

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 2>going to be in Minneapolis at Target Field against the

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 2>Twins who are still holding out for Hope. Jim, they

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 2>really need Luis Castillo to figure this out.

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's especially when you look at the other starters

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 4>that went, Like watching Clay Holmes pitch pretty well. Yeah,

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 4>that's the case where it seemed like, I know, Chris

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 4>gets has to worry about next year's rotation as well,

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 4>and that you know, this was an opportunity to try

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 4>to find somebody who's an awkward fit for their team.

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.959
<v Speaker 4>And so, like I understand the appeal of trading Dominga,

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 4>So you don't want your roster for Castillo, it's a

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 4>change of scene to re trade for both one team's

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 4>headaches might become a benefit to the other team just

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 4>because of opportunities. There's so many bullpen spots, there are

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 4>so many rotation spots. The barrier for contributing is relatively

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 4>low when you need a fifth starter or if you

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 4>need like a sixth inning reliever. So you understand why

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 4>Chris gets saw an opportunity here, But it did feel

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 4>kind of too cute by half just trying to see

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 4>like pull you know, not that he's trying to pull

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 4>an over in the Mariners. Like everybody's got needs and

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 4>ideally like every trade would be win win, or at

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 4>least a lot of trades would be win win, because

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 4>you know, you want reason to keep trading, You want

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 4>a reason to to uh for teams to see your

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:04.240
<v Speaker 4>roster as a way to solve problems and vice versa.

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 4>But it almost seemed like yes, you know, Castillo has

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 4>been this awkward fit the whole time. He hasn't been

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 4>able to get guys out. Yes, he throws change up

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 4>more when he's been throwing sliders for years. It did

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 4>seem a little bit too on the nose to be

0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 4>that simple, and so far it's proven the case. But yeah,

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 4>I guess the good news is a few turns left

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 4>the rotation. Probably Davis Martin is when he's ready to return.

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 4>That might be when there's a big reckoning with any

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 4>rotation spots and who who gets kicked down. You're seeing

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 4>Eric Fetti bounce back in this bulk role after being

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 4>bumped the bullpen like maybe he's earned a reason to

0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 4>hang around in his current rotation arrangement after being bumped

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 4>out by Castile when he arrived. So yeah, I think

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm looking at Davis Martin's return is for when this

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 4>conversation gets a lot more serious.

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. I did not take that into consideration of

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Castillo b moved to the Jim. It's so much money.

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:05.719
<v Speaker 2>That's why it's a lot of money. But it's all

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 2>about performance now for the rest of the season, and

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Castillo really needs to pick it up that end. Brazobond.

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 2>The White Sox have to figure out what's going on

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 2>with him too. I don't know if anyone's ready to

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:20.760
<v Speaker 2>go in Charlotte to replace Brasobon, but the White Sox

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.320
<v Speaker 2>need more out of the guys they acquired before the

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:28.799
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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the Sox with Chip podcast at Texas

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<v Speaker 2>Rangers now visit the Chicago White Sox. And you wouldn't

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 2>believe it, but the Rangers at sixty five and sixty six,

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:47.799
<v Speaker 2>are currently tied for first place in the America League

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 2>West with the Houston Astros. They won their last game.

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 2>They are five and five in their last ten. They

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 2>have not been great on the road this year. They

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 2>are twenty nine and thirty seven. All three games between

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:01.359
<v Speaker 2>the White Sox and Ras this week are at six

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<v Speaker 2>forty pm Central Time. Your first game on Monday night,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Kumar Rocker, who has been awesome against the White Sox.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the bad news. The White Sox have to

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 2>figure out Kumar Rocker. But Jose Erkidi is right now.

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 2>They're going to be the starter for the White Sox,

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:19.959
<v Speaker 2>the projected bulk guy. We'll see how far he goes again.

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<v Speaker 2>He was electric against the Chicago Cubs at his last outing.

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<v Speaker 2>On Tuesday night, it's Jacob de Gram for the Texas

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<v Speaker 2>Rangers against Anthony K for the White Sox. And on

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday nights it's McKenzie Gore for the Texas Rangers against

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<v Speaker 2>Sean Burke and Jim This is an interesting series because

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<v Speaker 2>Texas really needs this one to keep their postseason hopes alive.

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 2>This is not an easy pitching matchup for the White

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Sox offense. Kumar Rocker has had outstanding starts against the

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:53.759
<v Speaker 2>White Sox, but the White Sox did hit Jacob de

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Gram a little bit, and we'll see how they fare

0:36:57.080 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 2>against McKenzie Gore. But at least on the pitching front

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:01.400
<v Speaker 2>here for the White Sox, they got Anthony K and

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:05.280
<v Speaker 2>they got Sean Burke going. It's been a lot of stress.

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:08.240
<v Speaker 2>It's been a lot of anxiety watching these White Sox

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 2>games the last couple of weeks, and I have a

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 2>feeling it's going to be more of the same in

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 2>this series. It gets a Texas Rangers. How are you

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 2>feeling about this series between the White Sox and Rangers.

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<v Speaker 4>I would like to see the White Sox win two

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 4>out of three, and not just for the obvious benefits

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 4>of hosting a White Sox podcast where we want people

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:29.960
<v Speaker 4>to enjoy the product, but also because of you know,

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 4>watching the NL or Ale West just not surface a

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 4>real threat and kind of giving the Central a little

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 4>bit of a boost just by no longer being the

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 4>default bad division or of the division where just like,

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 4>what are these records even reminds me of nineteen ninety

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:52.680
<v Speaker 4>four before the strike? Oh yeah, the Rangers were leading

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 4>the Ale West at fifty two and sixty two, ten

0:37:56.960 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 4>games that are five hundred good enough to lead just

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 4>the Royals were in third place in the AL Central

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 4>that year at sixty four and fifty one. That's that's

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 4>how that was like the end of the kind of

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:11.920
<v Speaker 4>that Royals era of being like a real respectable team

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:13.920
<v Speaker 4>like year in and year outs in the eighties and nineties,

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 4>and that's kind of where it all started falling apart

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:19.800
<v Speaker 4>from them. But yeah, it's I haven't been able to

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:21.520
<v Speaker 4>figure out the Rangers all year. Haven't been able to

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:24.759
<v Speaker 4>figure out the mirror. I guess easier to figure out

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:27.760
<v Speaker 4>the Mariners now, just because they've had some really ugly

0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:31.120
<v Speaker 4>games and cal Rally doesn't look like he's gonna rally

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 4>this year, and you realize how much of the Mariners

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:40.719
<v Speaker 4>kind of built around him offensively, And yeah, it's not

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:44.399
<v Speaker 4>to going from a near MVP season to average would

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:47.720
<v Speaker 4>be something, but to go from near MVP and build

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 4>your team kind of around that person to one of

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:53.640
<v Speaker 4>the worst players in the league is really remarkable. And

0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 4>then the Astros, I think have been kind of what

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 4>I thought the Astros would be and that just kind

0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 4>of getting thinned out over the years, but still formidable

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 4>if you catch them the right series. So I feel

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 4>like I understand the Astros, but the Rangers, and uh,

0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 4>I guess the Rangers now, the one team I you know,

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:15.880
<v Speaker 4>still standing, seems like they could get a hide any

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 4>time because like the name brand pitching like de Gram

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:20.279
<v Speaker 4>and Gore, it's a good uh you know, back to

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 4>back starters and they they're able to have like a

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:26.000
<v Speaker 4>rotation turn that looks really impressive, but just the results

0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 4>aren't there. The lineups sometimes a little bit short. Even

0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 4>though it's name brand talent. There too, and yeah, it's

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:35.799
<v Speaker 4>it's not an easy matchup for the White Sox. But

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:38.239
<v Speaker 4>I think the Rangers in the entire year have been

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:43.719
<v Speaker 4>playing a little bit like behind teams or other teams

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:46.320
<v Speaker 4>are giving them a hard time that they wouldn't expect.

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:50.359
<v Speaker 4>So the White Sox seem like, yeah, there's a strain

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:52.840
<v Speaker 4>of pessimism, I would say, And I'm sure you've noticed

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:56.799
<v Speaker 4>this too, and the comments and you know elsewhere, just

0:39:56.920 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 4>you're waiting for the bomb to fall out. But I

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:01.360
<v Speaker 4>think the yeah, the Rangers are a decent team there.

0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 4>Uh yeah, I would say kind of close to the

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:07.479
<v Speaker 4>Reds a little bit, and that's the Red Star White Sox.

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:10.319
<v Speaker 4>But just you know, they're they're in that middle class

0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:13.480
<v Speaker 4>and they should be able to win any series. But

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:15.680
<v Speaker 4>also there's a reason why they're still under five hundred

0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:19.239
<v Speaker 4>this points, and uh, the White Sox there's a reason

0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 4>why they're over five hundred. So uh but I really

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 4>want to see a team win the division under five hundred,

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:30.800
<v Speaker 4>just to uh make it, make the make October real weird.

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:32.799
<v Speaker 4>And I would like the White Sox to have hand

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:33.280
<v Speaker 4>in that.

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:39.319
<v Speaker 2>Fly that banner, right, yeah, banners fly forever. America League

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Quest champion seventy and eighty three.

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 4>The White Yeah, and the way it happened the White Sox,

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:48.120
<v Speaker 4>the White Sox would take it.

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it happened the last three years. Absolutely yeah, absolutely.

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 2>The White Sox have already hit the over for their

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 2>over under total wins for the season. Those bets cashed

0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:05.520
<v Speaker 2>if you were on the over for win total for

0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 2>the White Sox in late August, which is a a

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:12.879
<v Speaker 2>pleasant surprise. Though. The other thing I'm gonna be paying

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 2>attention to other than can the White Sox score runs

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 2>against Kumar Rocker Jim, because again, Rocker has been excellent

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:23.720
<v Speaker 2>against the White Sox in his young career. If who's

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:27.759
<v Speaker 2>a Yrkidi held go five or six innings, fantastic. But

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:30.919
<v Speaker 2>this is also the end of this sixteen straight game

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 2>stretch over sixteen days, and the White Sox get a

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:37.719
<v Speaker 2>much needed day off on Thursday, and then it's a

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 2>key series against the Minnesota Twins, and I'm looking to

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:44.920
<v Speaker 2>see if Davis Martin's gonna be ready to rejoin the

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 2>White Sox. He's eligible to come back. But I know

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:50.799
<v Speaker 2>you cover the minor keys for us, and you've been

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 2>keeping an eye on how guys are faring in Charlotte,

0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:57.759
<v Speaker 2>and I just don't think the White Sox can continue

0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 2>doing this whole back to back bull type of games

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:04.399
<v Speaker 2>to get through September, And I know September call up

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 2>period is also coming up. Is this also a week

0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:10.240
<v Speaker 2>to kind of keep an eye on Charlotte to see

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:13.319
<v Speaker 2>who deserves another chance to be a starting pitcher, Like,

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 2>is it possible we could see maybe Noah Schultz or

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Drew Thorpe or even Shane Smith joined the White Sox

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 2>this upcoming weekend in Minneapolis to take a start.

0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:27.840
<v Speaker 4>I would rule out Smith not going well for him.

0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:34.480
<v Speaker 4>The fastball was at ninety three his last start on Sunday,

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:36.840
<v Speaker 4>so it's yeah, and I think he has to bully

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 4>hitters with the fastball in order to be what he

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 4>was last year, and it doesn't seem like he's able

0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 4>to summon that, so set him to the side. I

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:49.879
<v Speaker 4>think the candidates are you know, Schultz, you mentioned right

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:51.719
<v Speaker 4>now he's being limited to fore innings, Like, I'm not

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:53.640
<v Speaker 4>sure what the plan is the rest of the season

0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 4>for him if he's thrown four innings not you know,

0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:58.840
<v Speaker 4>maybe it's like a left handed version of Fetti to

0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 4>where like he's more of a bulk guy then a

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 4>starter who's gonna give you six. But like his development

0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:06.839
<v Speaker 4>is kind of in a holding pattern right now as

0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:08.239
<v Speaker 4>they try to get him through the rest of the year.

0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:11.800
<v Speaker 4>I would say maybe Drew Thorpe would be the most

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:15.719
<v Speaker 4>ready of the starters, just because he's been completing five

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 4>with ease. The change up looks like it's back for him.

0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 4>It's just a matter of like, does he have enough

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:25.480
<v Speaker 4>power to really allow the change it to play up

0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 4>that often? And are the slider and cutter distinct pitches

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 4>at the major league level? Do you hit or see

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:33.080
<v Speaker 4>them differently? Do they help set them up different ways?

0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:35.680
<v Speaker 4>As he goes through the lineup multiple times, But based

0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 4>on what he's shown in Triple A as he completes

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 4>his rehab, stant looks like he's at least ready to

0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:43.960
<v Speaker 4>show what that looks like against major league hitters. If

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:47.719
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't go well, it doesn't go well. But in

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:51.279
<v Speaker 4>terms of just how easily he's throwing five and competing

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 4>in the strike zone and getting swings and misses with

0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:55.719
<v Speaker 4>that change up when he sets it up, and he's

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 4>setting it up, then yeah, may as well go with him.

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 4>I think Jonathan Cannon's other guy who's just if they

0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:05.320
<v Speaker 4>need somebody to go six, like he's been going six

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 4>when it's going well. Sometimes it doesn't go well, but

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:10.719
<v Speaker 4>he's been able to like absorb a rough inning and

0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:14.319
<v Speaker 4>keep going. I think he's more of a part in

0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:16.759
<v Speaker 4>the pun But like fodder, you canon fodder, He's more

0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 4>somebody you put in there just to buy a day.

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 4>If it goes well, goes well. If not, you can

0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:23.719
<v Speaker 4>still try to push them five innings plus and just

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:26.520
<v Speaker 4>save your bullpen. He's probably the best case for that

0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 4>if you don't necessarily care about his era how it

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:32.960
<v Speaker 4>looks at the end of the season. And then David

0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 4>Sandlin is there as well. He's pitching okay in terms

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 4>of results. The peripherals don't quite match it, and it's

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:44.600
<v Speaker 4>hard to know based on the stuff is legit in

0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:47.719
<v Speaker 4>terms of like velocity, the sharpness of his curveball, Like

0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:51.120
<v Speaker 4>when he executes a great curve ball off a fast while,

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:53.240
<v Speaker 4>you get like, oh, this is a major league pitch combination.

0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 4>And maybe he doesn't get strikeouts because like hitters are

0:44:57.160 --> 0:44:59.000
<v Speaker 4>just off balance and they're able to make contact. But

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:00.839
<v Speaker 4>you know he's limiting hit and maybe that's how it

0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:04.440
<v Speaker 4>manifests itself. But you know, we've seen him, you know,

0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 4>a few times at the major league level and can

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:09.759
<v Speaker 4>hit a wall and you have to worry about that.

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:13.080
<v Speaker 4>So I think I would put him with Schultz on

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 4>the second tier. I think Thorpe is top tier for

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 4>me in terms of choices, and then you blow them

0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 4>as cannon for one reason, and then Sandlin and Schultz

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:25.319
<v Speaker 4>for the other reason of just like you might get

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:27.960
<v Speaker 4>three dynamic innings, but after that's beyond guard.

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 2>All right, No, that's good insights. So thank you for that, Jim.

0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 2>And again we'll see how this week shakes out. Of course,

0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:36.520
<v Speaker 2>we're all going to be paid attention to how the

0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:39.160
<v Speaker 2>White Sox fair gets the Rangers this week at great Field.

0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 2>But even after the day off, the White Sox hopefully

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 2>could find some answers as we inched close to September

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:49.760
<v Speaker 2>for the final run of the twenty twenty six season,

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:52.640
<v Speaker 2>thirty two more games left to go, Jim, here you go.

0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:56.200
<v Speaker 2>This is the mad dash to the finish line for everybody,

0:45:56.320 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 2>and it seems like a lot of teams are still

0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:01.359
<v Speaker 2>live in the Marrikie League, and the White Sox still

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:05.000
<v Speaker 2>have the second seed and still leading the American League Central.

0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:07.719
<v Speaker 4>Of course, thirty two games, that will feel thirty two games,

0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:08.799
<v Speaker 4>it will feel like sixty four.

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:11.560
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's gonna feel. It's gonna be a law month.

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:14.839
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be a long months like in his White

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:15.399
<v Speaker 2>Sox team.

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:19.640
<v Speaker 4>It's like when you know, teams go to extra innings

0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:22.120
<v Speaker 4>and they say free baseball, and it's like free baseball

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:27.480
<v Speaker 4>the month. It sounds fun. It's not, but it is

0:46:27.640 --> 0:46:31.000
<v Speaker 4>fun for games to count, for decisions to matter, for

0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:35.279
<v Speaker 4>players and coaches. The second guests like, it's after three

0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:38.200
<v Speaker 4>years being what the last three years were, it's nice

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:41.160
<v Speaker 4>to get this granular and for it starts to matter,

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 4>and for over achievement under achievement to resonate this much.

0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:51.719
<v Speaker 2>It's that Paul run me, look at us. Can you

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:55.680
<v Speaker 2>believe it? I can't. But it's a great time to

0:46:55.719 --> 0:46:58.160
<v Speaker 2>be a White Sox fan. It was a dramatic series

0:46:58.160 --> 0:47:00.960
<v Speaker 2>win against the Mets. Let's see if there's more dramatics

0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:03.920
<v Speaker 2>this week against the Texas Rangers. But that will do

0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:06.160
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