WEBVTT - Draft Show: Putting Rumors To Rest 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:06.600 Did. He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:10.880 your war room for incenter news and draft analysis from 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:14.400 deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:21.120 in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select and now your hosts Dane Brugler, 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:25.360 David Hellman, and Brian brought us Well, you had the 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:28.360 Draft Show. One week from today, we will be getting 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:32.320 ready for the NFL Draft, the two thousand and eighteen 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.279 version of it. I'd like to welcome everybody to our 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:38.840 show today. As the Big Boys guy said, it's Brian 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:42.080 broad As, Stained Brugler, David Helman, King Garrison executive producing, 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:46.320 and Caden and Dave in the truck doing some good 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:48.400 things with the TV side of But we appreciate everybody 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:54.240 out there. Boys. You kind of kind of ready for 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:57.200 the scene to be happen or are we watching last 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:00.280 minute tape like me and we're trying to figure some 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:02.760 things out? Are we about ready to put this is 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.800 all the hay in the barn. It's both because on 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:08.679 one side of things, I just enjoy talking draft, I 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:13.840 enjoy talking scenarios, I enjoy debating these players. But on 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:16.360 the other hand, yeah, it's ready for it. To be here. 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:19.400 Let's do it. It's you reach a point I remember 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.399 in college studying for an exam where you're like, f this, 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:24.280 I know it as well as I'm gonna know it. 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:26.000 I'm either going to get a good grade or a 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:28.720 bad grade. Let's just do it. That's how I feel. 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:30.800 We like to thank the folks from mill Or Light too, 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:32.840 that's gonna come along with us on this journey. They're 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:35.120 going to be the presenting sponsors of the Draft show, 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:40.240 and we are very very happy about having them along 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:44.960 with us as we get ready for this. We're in 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:49.080 that mode right now where we're seven days away and 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:53.000 we all talk to people within the league. Man, maybe 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:54.480 you get opportunity to talk to some of the guys 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:57.200 within the Cowboys building. They're really busy right now putting 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:59.120 together things. Maybe catch them on the way home or 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:02.240 something like that. But I wanted to ask you guys, 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:07.720 what should we believe and what should we not believe? 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:10.320 You know, there's a lot of you know, Dane, you're 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.679 really plugged in on the Browns and what they've got 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:17.160 going with, you know, with a quarterback situation. I worked 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.120 with John Dorsey for five years in Green Bay. I 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:23.040 feel like I know the man pretty well, David, You've 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.840 seen it from afar. But what what should we believe? 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:27.680 And I'm not just saying maybe about the Browns, but 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.160 I'm just saying about the draft in general. I mean 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:35.640 I I've talked to scouts that have a slide of 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:38.280 a guy like Derwin James. You know, we've talked about 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:42.080 Brian Broadus has talked about, Hey, guys, yeah, load up, 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:45.080 let's go, let's go. I'm I'm the guy that's like 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:47.360 leading the charge for going up to the top of 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:50.240 the board and getting a guy like that. But should 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:54.800 we believe when we talk to people at this time 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:57.120 that there could be a slide for a guy like 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:00.200 Derwin James? Should we believe what's going on with the 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.880 quarterback rooms or with the rooms about talking about these quarterbacks? 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.360 When do we When do you kind of shut things off? 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:09.960 I know we have guys that don't lie to us, 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:13.760 we don't think so, but when do you When does it? 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:17.239 Just like, man, I just don't see that happening. Does it? 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:19.800 Does it? Does it? Does it make you think differently 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.960 about the draft? When you've got people that you trust saying, 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:26.120 oh no, you don't need to trade up for that guy. 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:28.280 He's gonna be right there for you to pick. I'll 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.720 give you a great cop out answer, which is, I 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:35.960 mean hopefully that's That's what all this ridiculous preparation is forward, Like, 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.360 that's why you spend twelve months a year on this 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:40.560 or nine months a year is like, you should be 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.720 prepared for that scenario anyway, and you should know what 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:46.680 you want to do in that scenario regardless, Like you 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:50.000 should be prepared to know how you feel about Derwin 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:51.880 James if he does slide, even if you don't think 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.200 he's going to, and like I mean, even if you're 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.160 convinced he's a top ten pick. You should be prepared 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.480 for that scenario. So you shouldn't. You shouldn't be caught 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:01.920 off guard by anything. I would hope, I would hope. 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:05.600 That's why NFL teams spend millions of dollars on this 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.040 draft process, so that they're not caught off guard by anything. 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.480 And it happens every year. I mean, somebody will be 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:13.240 caught off guard by something, but they shouldn't be Do 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:16.440 you think that the national As the night wears on, 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:18.800 it's like, well, I don't you know, mil kiper goes, 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.320 I don't understand why Derwin James is sliding. I don't 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:26.159 understand why Josh Allen is sliding about Jonathan Allen last year. Yeah, 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.560 you didn't understand that Millie Cooker. Millie Cooker was another one. Yeah. 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.680 This is the most I think annoying part of the process. 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.600 This is final week and all the noise that's coming 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:39.040 out because it's hard to kind of weed through everything, 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:42.159 and not just from our perspective, but all thirty two 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:46.719 teams have an intern or somebody on staff glued to 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:51.400 Twitter to reports. Okay, well this we got scouts following 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:55.159 us on Twitter all the time, teammates bringing in player 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:58.360 B for a workout, for a top thirty for whatever. 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:02.320 They're trying to have as much information as possible so 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.560 they understand who's looking at who, you know, the connections 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:08.160 that can be made. Uh and then you know, but 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:10.440 it's all guesswork because you know, no team knows what 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:13.880 another team's gonna do, and so it's with a case 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.640 like Derwin James, yeah, I'd be pretty shocked if he's 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:20.960 available say it, you know, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, But he 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.840 knows with all these quarterbacks going high five going to 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:27.320 top ten. Somebody's got a fall. Uh you know, whether 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.400 it be a Saquon Barkley or uh you know if 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.960 if anka, yeah, if it's Patrick, definitely, if we feel 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.000 like or there might be a team that prefers they 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:38.440 did really want a linebacker, so they take a Tremaine 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:40.800 Edmonds over Derwin James. You know, I don't think any 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.000 of us would do that, but if that team really 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.520 wants a linebacker, they might do so. So yeah, you 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.200 can't rule out anything happening like that. That's the thing 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.000 too about and you talk about real quick. If you 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.680 talk about Edmonds, you know, there's there's folks that are 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:55.560 like saying, well, there's teams that will take him over 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.800 over Roquan Smith, and that's madness to me. But yeah, 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.839 but it's not new. I mean, people have been saying 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:04.640 that for months, and I think it's had. They've been 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:07.160 saying it for months. I I mean absolutely, like the 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:10.200 narrative on that is that those guys are one A 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:12.520 and one B and some people prefer one over the other. 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.159 I don't think that's new. Yeah, I don't think so. 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:18.200 I mean I agree, but for us, I think it's crazy. 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.599 Well yeah, no, we would all agree, we all like 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:24.000 Roquan Smith better, but for a certain scheme or a 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.599 certain type of personnel guy, okay, whatever you like, Evans 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:29.000 more like that doesn't shock me. And to further elaborate 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.839 on my point is, if you've done your homework the 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:35.359 way you're supposed to, why you letting some bs in 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:37.800 the final week of the process draw you off sides? Like, 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:41.560 just stick to your convictions, stick to what you think. Sure, 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:44.919 if somebody throws you a curveball, hopefully you're prepared for it, 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.800 like mcglinchey'd to tend to the raiders. Absolutely. And that's 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:49.680 the type of thing I mean, See, that's where That's 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.120 where I'm not going. And when it happens, when stuff 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:55.840 like that happens, then you go, oh, man, there's things 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.839 could happen in that draft you never saw coming, you know, 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.080 and you could be as prepared as you want, But 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:05.440 there's things that happened in that draft room where you're going, Man, 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:09.720 we did not plan for this. The Shari Floyd was 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:12.520 a great example several years ago, and then they had 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.160 him as a top five player and all of a sudden, 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:18.360 they're staring at him. They're staring at that kind of 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:21.000 led to a change in the way they do it didn't, Sure, 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:24.480 it did. I mean guys lost their jobs doing that. Yeah, 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:27.680 so that's what I'm saying though, you you know you hear. 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:31.080 I just trying to ask you when you hear things late. Example, 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.040 you do a lot of mock drafts, we do, you 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:37.040 monitor mock drafts. You know what Daniel Jeremiah has the way, 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.360 you know, like the closer we get his last draft 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.400 will be his best draft. I have a feeling, but yeah, 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:46.560 everybody will. But all along it's been James here, James here, 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:50.320 James here, James here, and then he's two picks away 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.600 from you on this this last mock draft. You know 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.920 you're you're you're hearing something there. And I think when 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:59.200 you talk to people about doing and you tell me this, 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.600 did you feel like that Derwin James played in a 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:08.280 way where he was protecting himself that he didn't play 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.320 as well as he did in previous years. Well, no, 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:14.120 that was definitely, I think, But I think it's more 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:16.880 as it was just rust than anything, because he missed 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.000 almost all of his well, he played great as a freshman, 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:22.600 and then his sophomore year which ended up being in 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:24.920 a red shirt year. He missed almost the entire year. 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:28.600 Sure this year there was obvious rust. The NC State 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:30.920 game pops out in my mind, you know, watching that 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:33.800 tape and seeing him struggle in coverage. I think the 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:37.040 biggest thing with Derwin James is you feel good about 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:42.280 him playing linebacker safety nicol He can plain so many spots. 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:44.360 Does he have a true home? And I think that's 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.760 what some teams are struggling with, is Okay, if we 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:50.160 dropped Irwin James as he are starting strong safety as 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.959 they are strong, like, were we going to play him specifically? 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.880 And that could be something that they struggle with and 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:00.720 that could be h more of a struggle than Meca Fitzpatrick. No, 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.079 I think it's a similar similar veins. See, there's two 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:06.600 players that we've thought all along, I mean as potential 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:10.480 top five players. Yeah, and now it's like, and I 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:14.640 always ask you that question because I've had several scouts 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:18.080 tell me that from different teams, They like, what are 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.600 you seeing this guy? And I describe this and the 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:24.080 linebacker the nickel, you know, he gets some throwing lanes 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:25.880 blah blah blah blah blah, Like do you think he 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.959 played better. You play the play as good as he 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:32.080 could play, you know, And they're they're they're the questions 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.679 is about and now I'm kind of and now I 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:39.920 understand why Daniel Jeremiah has him potentially there, because he's 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.480 probably talking to some of his buddies as well. I mean, 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:45.839 there's two dirty little secrets in the draft. Number one, 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:49.400 which we've talked about plenty, is need plays way more 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:53.040 of a factor, sure than people want to admit. That's 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:56.080 how you'st player within needs three receivers going in the 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:58.600 top ten last year. Yeah, yeah, that's how. That's how 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.360 you wind up with Mike McGlinchey going in the top ten. Yeah. 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:04.400 So don't be surprised. That is dirty little secret number one, 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:08.280 Dirty little secret number two. It's not a secret, I guess. 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:12.120 But these teams, for they're all stubborn. They all think 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:14.360 they know more than everybody else. You should hear the 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:16.600 conversation we had about quarterbacks just before you came in. 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:19.360 And on top of that, they are all you think 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.440 think back to free agency with the Tyrone Matthew conversation. 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:25.240 They are all and they they should be they but 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:28.600 they're beholding to their scheme. So you're watching a guy 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:30.160 just like he can do this, he can do that, 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.640 he can do that, and these teams are like, and 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:34.240 he doesn't fit what we need him to do in 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:36.360 our scheme. And that's how you wind up. You know, 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:41.880 that's and that's how I can see it nineteen. That's 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:44.440 how that is a great point. That's how Tremaine Edmonds 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:47.680 goes number seven, five spots ahead of Roquan Smith because 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:50.240 they're like, well, we really don't think Roquan can do 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.840 this in our three four. We don't want our team 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.360 talking about Hey, but if you if you if you 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:58.319 want a three, if you run a three four and 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:02.000 one of monster, yeah, just gigantic linebacker, you probably do 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:05.680 want Tremaine Edmunds absolutely, yeah, you know, yeah, that's how 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:08.200 that type of stuff happens. Yeah. And with Derwin James, Okay, 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:10.520 go back to last year, we had one safety taken 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.559 to the top ten, Jamal Adams, who went with six 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:17.679 to the Jets. Jets. Derwin James is a far superior 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:22.160 athlete and I think ye much higher ceiling than Jamal 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.480 Adams does. But I mean, but you're gonna tell me 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:28.480 that Derwin James is a you know, belongs in the teens, 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:30.600 where Jamal Adams is a top six pick. I mean, 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.240 can I play Devil's Advocate here? And I think at 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:35.960 this point you both know how much I like Derwin James. 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:40.559 But there's some Byron Jones going on here and maybe 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:43.600 the Derwin Yeah, I mean we had. I mean it 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.840 sounds a lot like Byron Jones. And Byron's arguably a 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.720 better athlete than Derwin James, at least from a number standpoint. 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:53.640 And Jet, I mean, vertical forty whatever set a freaking 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:56.400 world record in the broad Sure does that concern you 0:11:56.440 --> 0:12:00.400 at all? It doesn't concern me because I've I I 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.400 don't know Byron. Byron Jones's tape didn't look at that's good. 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:07.240 I've seen I seen enough badass stuff on Derwin James's tape. 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.679 And I and I'll tell you what I'll argue about 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:11.880 every you know, you and I argue about Byron Jones 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:13.960 is a bust or not? Yeah? You know, I mean 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.760 that's an argument. And and I I guys played forty 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:18.040 eight games. I don't know how you can call him 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:20.880 a bus but that bust. Bust is harsh, but hit 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.120 is also overly nice. But he you picked him at 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:27.160 twenty seven, right, Like I said, bust is harsh. But 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:30.640 if you're not sure two weeks out that they're going 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.360 to pick up his option, yeah, then you did. Well, 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.840 they've already moved him the corner. You didn't nail the pick. 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:38.600 If you have questions about his future heading into year four, 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.400 you didn't nail the pick. Yeah, you didn't, but he didn't. 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:43.880 He's not a bust. He's certainly far from being a bust. 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:47.880 But a good draft pick is you're like, well, obviously 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.079 they're gonna pick up his option. That's a good draft pick. 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.480 Have the Cowboys set himself up to be traded in 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:57.920 front of in this draft? But with wide receiver? Yeah? Yeah? 0:12:58.000 --> 0:12:59.880 Is that? Why? Is that why they're looking at so 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.800 many of them to try and figure out that they 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.240 kind of think, Okay, if Ridley goes ahead of us, 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.680 it's it's Seattle Bayals. I would like to think again 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:12.040 that they're just covering all the scenarios possible. I would like, oh, no, 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:15.680 I I I But but they does it feel like 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.760 does it feel like that when we're sitting here on 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:22.160 draft night and I'm look over and in Seattle's on 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.160 the clock, and then all of a sudden, I see 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:28.440 another team's logo is that is are they setting themselves 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:30.080 up to think, oh, somebody's going to get a wide 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:32.200 receiver there? But I don't think they set themselves up 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.920 for that. I mean, something like that happens, then so 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:38.000 be it, you know, but it's not like getting you know, 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.800 cutting death when they did it affected that the teams 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:44.120 know this, that Cowboys are looking at receivers. Um. I 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:47.320 think that you won't get anybody in that room to 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.200 admit this. But I think when they took Taco Charlton 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.360 last year, there's a little bit of like, Okay, yeah, 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:55.080 we got a good player, like yeah, I don't I 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:58.800 don't think there was a lot of like exactly and 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.600 in this draft, like I don't. I don't think they 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:04.400 don't want to be stuck in a situation where Okay, 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:06.720 you know, we got the receiver, we're good. Yeah, but 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.840 with a guy they like maybe a little bit more 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:12.200 on the board, like a Layton Vandrush or a Vita Vea, 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.720 whoever that may be. These are names that could be 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:19.040 in that discussion. Who you know, Harold Landry, could he 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:20.960 be there? Sure? Do they want to pass on a 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.440 guy like that, just because I would wide receiver might 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.600 be a bigger need. I mean, you weren't here Monday. 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:27.600 I don't need to go on the whole tangent again 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:29.920 because I went for like six minutes. I don't need 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.440 to do it again. It is a very good bet 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:34.920 that they will draft a receiver nineteenth. Like, it's not 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:36.960 silly to think that that happens. But you're making a 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:40.000 mistake if you're just locked onto that possibility. That's and 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:43.960 that's why if a team is like, we gotta get 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:45.360 in front of Dallas, we gotta get in front of 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:47.320 Dallas to get our receiver, I think they're making a 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:49.960 mistake too, because as it sits right now, I still 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.560 think linebackers the biggest need on this team. No, but 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:56.000 not to mention guard and safety. But people will take 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:59.880 what we're listening to right now, the narratives. Everybody's saying, well, 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.360 Dallas has to have they have to have a wide receiver. 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.960 We're trying to educate. Yeah, we're trying to educate people 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.720 that you don't need a wide receiver at nineteen, right 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.240 But you know we're trying to say, okay, listen, there's 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:15.480 options that you can have. There there's you know, there's 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.600 options you don't have to have, which again I'm about 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:20.560 to sound like a hipster, and that's okay because I 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:22.840 kind of am one. But like going back to your point, 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:26.200 that's what makes this week so annoying is like the 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.000 people who care enough to get involved in this process 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:32.200 in January and February. I mean, you you should already 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.320 know this, but then like you got all these Johnny 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:38.080 Come Lately's who the Cowboys Company bought the Beast in 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.360 the Star as well. Yeah, there's way more people that 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:44.520 didn't than did, unfortunately, and so you got to kind 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:46.680 of fight through that noise too, like, oh where have 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:50.160 you been? We've been saying this for months. I think 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.200 ideally they'd like to go linebacker wide receiver in the 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:57.040 first two rounds in whatever order sure, whether that's Layton 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:00.640 Vanderesh and Anthony Miller or um, you know, could be 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:04.320 DJ Moore and whatever linebacker they want one day two. 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:06.720 You know, I think in a perfect role, that's what 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.960 they would do. Now you know, things change, Harold Andrew's 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:13.240 falls of falls, I think that we need to I 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.680 think that you're absolutely right what you're saying. I think 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:20.080 we need to think about the defensive lineman here too. Yeah, 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.200 I mean, I really really do. When you talk about 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.040 you said Vey, and I'm glad you say that, because 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:29.080 I there there is clearly there is clearly a love 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.680 for him in this building. There really is. Why would 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.960 you ignore a guy who was a thirty visit? Yeah? Absolutely, Yeah, 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.360 I think there's some some genuine I think there's some 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.520 genuine love for him in this building. Do you think 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:42.640 they're on pains in the same I think pain's in 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.360 the same breath. Yeah. I think if you if you're 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.320 if you know, they're gonna they're gonna look at this 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.200 thing and say, okay, there's six guys. But again, I 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:52.520 don't mean to get away from where I was talking, 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:55.920 because I'm you're starting to hear some things about Ridley. 0:16:56.680 --> 0:17:00.400 You know, he's only this and he's only this somebody say, 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:04.200 somebody you know and out of the first round. Yeah see, 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:07.160 I mean how does that? I mean again, how does 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:10.960 that happen? You know, whether you like more or not. 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.920 The fact that the one that's risen into this thing 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:17.919 that I did, I did I have problems is sudden. 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:20.760 It's absolutely Oh yeah, he's the one that I don't 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:24.160 give me Miller, give me, you know, give me other 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:27.160 guys give me Gallop. I'm just talking about me. I'm 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.159 just talking about me. You know. I'm sure you have 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.440 some you know, different thoughts about that Sutting is my 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:33.960 number four receiver. But at the moment does was cut, 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:37.200 the moment that became reality was that last Friday. Yeah, 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.360 the moment it happened that my first tweet was well, 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:42.919 Courtland Sutton just became a much more real possibility. That 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.280 was the first thing that came into my mind because 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:48.719 with Sutton, he is that prototypical X with what he offers. 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:52.600 He is a very deslike receiver. But yeah, but he's 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:57.199 the verbiage about him. The discussions about him are all 0:17:57.240 --> 0:18:00.560 going this way. And then when the guy who's really 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.320 the best route runner in the draft, his discussions are 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.560 going this way. Which and that's what I'm saying, Where 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:07.639 we where do we believe? And do you do you 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:10.640 just do you put the blinders up and say stop 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:14.080 it stop? It's interesting, Well, we know we know the 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:17.000 Cowboys like Sudden. Yeah, I mean they worked him out, 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:20.320 ye brought him in, sure, so it's not like they 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:24.800 don't like him. But I wonder how much. How much? 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:29.600 And you know, it's so it's so typical of media, 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:31.000 and I'm in the media, so I'm not trying to 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.480 bash anybody, but they're just like, Oh, he's big and 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:36.080 looks like Dez, so that's the pick. And I think 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:38.560 it's a little more nuanced than that. And I would hope, 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:40.520 I would hope, I would hope. You're absolutely right. I 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:44.560 would hope that just because there's a Dez sized hole 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:46.840 in the lineup now doesn't mean they just try to 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.760 get a guy that looks like Des And I hope 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:51.840 not that that's kind of what I've been preaching as well. 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:54.439 Hopefully they go for I just hope they're looking for 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:57.159 the receiver that could make the biggest impact and not 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:00.280 the receiver that fits the X perfectly. You know, Yeah, 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.320 that Des hole, Like you're talking about Calvin Ridley, I 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:06.120 got him create his own separation. Is he an X? No, 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:08.480 he doesn't, you know, but we so caught up in 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:11.359 the alphabet soup of the wide receivers. Just give me 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:14.000 the best players that can make an impact and separate 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:18.720 catch the ball. Play again. Again. You go back to 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.520 that what I said earlier, that like you know, this 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:23.760 is more about need than any team wants to admit. 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:27.480 And so I hope the Cowboys don't fall into that 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:29.680 draft we've talked about with the exit on a guy 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:32.360 that looks like what they think they need. Okay, let 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:37.199 me ask you this. Do they do you draft a 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:39.560 wide receiver at nineteen with the thought that you might 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:43.000 change the coach next year? You know, it's so it's 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:46.600 such a you know, no, Well, if you're draft I mean, 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:49.000 does that does that play your thought at all? If 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:51.520 you're Jerry Joe, if you're drafting a receiver at nineteen, 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:54.159 I would hope he could fit into any scheme that 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:56.240 any coach is gonna run. That's why you draft the 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:58.560 best wide receiver. You can't, Yeah, you don't try to, 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:03.040 you know, get it exactly right with the prototypical X 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:04.840 or whatever you want to do. I mean, look, I 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.119 like Sutton. He's my number four receiver. I think he 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:10.639 has number one potential. I don't, but I'm taking the 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:14.000 receiver and DJ Moore even would it shock you if 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:16.280 DJ Moore is the top wide receiver on their board? 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:18.600