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Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 1: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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Speaker 2: dot Com, Apple podcast, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 3: The John Annick and Kenny Florian podcasts Kenny Florian, Oh

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Speaker 3: my god, you're your hosts, John Anick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we are live. You think our buddy Bruce Buffer

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Speaker 4: will sue me? I know he'll sue me if I

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Speaker 4: say it's time for the Anik and Florian podcast. But

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Speaker 4: do you think he'll sue me if I say we

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Speaker 4: are live? What do you think?

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Speaker 5: Great?

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Speaker 6: So we got we gotta get we gotta get lawyer

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Speaker 6: up right now. Thanks, There goes all our money for

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Speaker 6: the podcast, and we got to defend ourselves against the

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Speaker 6: beast Bruce Buffer.

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Speaker 4: That is the whole kitty. Tell our producer Danny Mayock

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Speaker 4: that he's coming for her too. I heard her say,

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Speaker 4: we are live. It's time to lawyer up. It is, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it is. Oh that's good. It is Monday, December seventeenth,

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Speaker 4: twenty eighteen, Episode one eighty four of the Anak and

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Speaker 4: Florian Podcast. It always sounds like a lot, so in

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Speaker 4: our little pre show meeting that last four minutes, I

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Speaker 4: try not to, you know, spoil, spoil anything I might have. Right, So,

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Speaker 4: I'm at Publix this morning. Right, it's a grocery store

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Speaker 4: here in South Florida. I'm there with my son Hunter,

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Speaker 4: just him and me. You know, I got him in

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Speaker 4: the car seat in the grocery cart. Ok And who

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Speaker 4: do I run into but former UFC Light Heavyweight champion

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Speaker 4: sugar Shot Evans. Oh wow, I mean, what are the

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Speaker 4: fucking odds kids? This time? Those publics in West Poker ratone.

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Speaker 4: I just went in to get a few things. You know,

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Speaker 4: my wife was at my daughter's school doing lunch duty.

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Speaker 4: In and out. Sugar Shot Evans live and he's the best. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: Where'd you bump into him? What? I'le that's a good question.

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Speaker 4: That's it was in the produce aisle. Okay, you know,

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Speaker 4: loading up on the healthy stuff, and I was looking

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Speaker 4: for just probably like a bag of lettuce shreds iceberg

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Speaker 4: Uh, but yeah, he was getting some mangoes, some like

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Speaker 4: mangoes from Haiti or something. But it was great. It

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Speaker 4: was cool to run into Rashot. You just never know

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Speaker 4: how your day is going to go down, so and

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Speaker 4: you just never know how these fights are going to

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Speaker 4: go down before we get into Fox UFC Fight Night Milwaukee.

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Speaker 4: So three more shows for us here on Fox. Final

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Speaker 4: UFC Fight Night on Fox was this past weekend, and

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Speaker 4: the last sort of coexisting show for Fox in the UFC.

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Speaker 4: The f S one UFC two thirty two prelims will

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Speaker 4: be that night on FS one Ken Flow. You're working

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Speaker 4: goodbyes happened, UFC Tonight had the last show, and Milwaukee

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Speaker 4: was pretty emotional for a lot of people. I think

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Speaker 4: December twenty ninth is going to be even harder for

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Speaker 4: all these people that we will get to in a

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Speaker 4: saw some of those emotions spilling over a little bit.

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Speaker 4: And I think just my biggest takeaway, even though it's

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Speaker 4: sad and you know, the relationships will withstand the test

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Speaker 4: of time, but these people love mixed martial arts now, right,

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Speaker 4: work for the UFC and work in mixed martial arts.

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Speaker 4: And when you get the bug for this sport, you

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Speaker 4: kind of want it to be in your life forever. Right.

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Speaker 4: I got the bug in O seven and sort of

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Speaker 4: And it's for a lot of these people, you know,

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Speaker 4: you know, it's going to be a different ballgame here

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Speaker 4: I think you nailed it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, there's a lot of lifelong mixed Martial Arts

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Speaker 6: And I can't thank them enough for all of their

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Speaker 4: And I'm eternally grateful. Yeah, man, you put it well.

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Speaker 4: And it's hard to quantify how many more American MMA

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Speaker 4: be sure on our final episode here on Fox Sports,

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Speaker 4: which is December thirty first, just before the new year,

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Speaker 4: will we will acknowledge everybody that we can think of

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Speaker 4: by name, and inevitably we'll leave some people out. So today,

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Speaker 4: in about ten minutes, will be the biggest Ray LONGO

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Speaker 4: this podcast. I texted them this morning, I've never been

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Speaker 4: more excited to talk to Ray. So this podcast launched

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Speaker 6: I'm very happy for Ray Longo and Matt Sarah, you

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Speaker 6: And you know, I think this was that fight that

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Speaker 4: I think we always knew that he was one of.

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Speaker 4: He was putting a lot of pressure on him.

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Speaker 6: It showed that, you know, just like he did in

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Speaker 6: I think in the UFC in general who knows how

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Speaker 4: And Ali Kointa is an absolute beast.

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Speaker 6: He came roaring back to win that fight, and I

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Speaker 4: out there. Yeah. Al was challenged at a number of

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Speaker 6: I'd say conditioning is king, and also confidence is king.

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Speaker 6: Your ability to stay composed in the octagon is huge.

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Speaker 4: So Kevin Lee said before the fight that mentally, if

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's had to deal with that.

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Speaker 4: Aliaquinta did not accept that reality.

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Speaker 4: Oftentimes you see guys go for the career reset. Gilbert Melendez,

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Speaker 7: he's training like an animal. But you know, those days

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00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,359
Speaker 7: might be behind him. But I think we trained smart

435
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,760
Speaker 7: and man, what a just a great performance from al Man.

436
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 7: He hit a little in personally and yeah, I can't

437
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,040
Speaker 7: be happier for a guy.

438
00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,400
Speaker 5: And you know, I don't know. I mean, it's been

439
00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:58,160
Speaker 5: you know, so.

440
00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,439
Speaker 7: Many ups and downs with not even you know, like

441
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,040
Speaker 7: to fight and just you know, stuff with uh, you know,

442
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 7: his complaints with the UFC and stuff like that. I

443
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 7: actually tested Sean Shelby. I really got to give credit

444
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,879
Speaker 7: to Sean because Sean really stuck by this kid and really,

445
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,200
Speaker 7: you know, saw the course and I think it pays off.

446
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,640
Speaker 7: He just really wanted to get paid and like Al

447
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 7: told me, goes, I just really want to thank Sean Shelby.

448
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 5: That's what I want to do.

449
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,879
Speaker 7: I want to feel good about a fight where I

450
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,439
Speaker 7: feel like I'm appreciated, and uh, that wasn't a bullshit thing.

451
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 7: He really thanks Sean and Hunter Campbell and uh, you know,

452
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 7: it's almost like an inside joke. We know what's going on,

453
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,719
Speaker 7: but uh, you know he uh, I think they did

454
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 7: the right thing by this kid. He's always produced in

455
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 7: the spotlight. He's never let anybody down.

456
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 6: Listen, man. In addition to getting that win, he proved

457
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,680
Speaker 6: his worth. So I mean, that was an amazing, amazing

458
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,679
Speaker 6: and for you, Ray, and when you look at his

459
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 6: his initial injury and when you got the news that

460
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 6: his knee was pretty much destroyed, is this one of

461
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 6: the greatest comeback stories in your career that you've experienced

462
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 6: as a coach.

463
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 7: Without a doubt, Kenny, this is uh, you know, I

464
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 7: gave a little speech at theF to Fight party.

465
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 5: It's I watched this.

466
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 7: Kid rehab, Like his rehab discipline is phenomenal. He does

467
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 7: the same shit over and over and over and over

468
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 7: again just to stay within the range of training. I'm saying,

469
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 7: most people can't do that, and he I mean, I

470
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 7: just you know, the hurt in his face. They he'd

471
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 7: come in even in this camp at the beginning, we'd

472
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 7: hit for one round. I gotta go, like my back

473
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 7: is locking up, you know, it's just and then he

474
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,679
Speaker 7: goes out. He just I watch him with the rehab

475
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 7: be surrounded by great people. He's got a sports science

476
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 7: institute and Staten Island want to give them a shout

477
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 7: out with Juan Delgado and John Piazza. He really loves

478
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 7: these guys. They they took a special interest in. Now,

479
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 7: I think that that that's the point of this. I

480
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 7: think he's he's he's a crazy guy. Right, He's not

481
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 7: really that crazy, but now could go off the charts.

482
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 7: I think he wears his emotions on his sleeve. Yeah,

483
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 7: but there are people out there that have seen something

484
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 7: in this kid, and I've went out of doubt me

485
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 7: one of them from the beginning because I love him.

486
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 7: That really have stuck by this kid when they could

487
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 7: have went south a couple of times, you know what

488
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 7: I mean. So he loves Piacere, he loves Juan Delgado.

489
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 7: They stick by him and it was a group effort.

490
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 7: But yeah, Kenny, great comeback. But I watched this guy

491
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 7: do to have the discipline to stay and rehab those

492
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 7: in I'm talking every day. He doesn't get in that

493
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 7: ring before he does certain exercises. He comes out, he

494
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 7: does them no matter what. It's just it was great

495
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 7: to see it, you know, come to fruition in a

496
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 7: really high profile fight when he really needed it.

497
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 6: And Ray One more question, you know, in regards to

498
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 6: the fight itself, any surprises during the fighter or did

499
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 6: you expect this to kind of go down the way

500
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 6: it did?

501
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 5: Uh No, not really No, I think it went down

502
00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 5: to kind of the way I did. I thought.

503
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 4: Uh no, I.

504
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 5: Think it kind of went down the way way I

505
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 5: thought it would.

506
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,239
Speaker 7: You know, I think, uh I kind you know, like

507
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 7: even when Kevin Lee was talking about he took the

508
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 7: first fight on three weeks notice and Al told me

509
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 7: they signed about agreements two months before the fight. Yeah,

510
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 7: it's like I just know he's gonna beat him. There's

511
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 7: something I like that. He's a talented kid, but his

512
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 7: head is something's off, like a little delusional, I think.

513
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 7: And then I think it came back to bite him

514
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 7: in the ass, like be careful what you ask for.

515
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 7: Like I think, if anything, there was no evolution in

516
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 7: his game, you know what I mean, Like he think

517
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 7: the projection that I felt during the fight, He's like, well,

518
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 7: this guy is really something's off, you know, and he

519
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 7: seems like a good kid. He's got a good camp

520
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 7: around him and stuff like that. But he's got to

521
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 7: really he doesn't have to address anything physically because physically

522
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 7: he's a gifted kid. But mentally, I think something's off,

523
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 7: like really big time, Like uh like even thinking you

524
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 7: won that fight, Like I don't even got your rasped,

525
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 7: Like you know, if that's a short, who do you

526
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 7: think won that fight? Like you want to win on this,

527
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 7: like eke out a sports decision because you had a

528
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 7: couple of minutes of control time on the floor standing up.

529
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 7: He was never ever in that fight ever.

530
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 5: I mean and pot shot at that kid all around

531
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 5: the ring and I don't even know.

532
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 6: The main takeaway looking at that fight is aliaquint is

533
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 6: a fighter.

534
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 4: Kevin Kevin Lee is an athlete with.

535
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 5: Had a doubt.

536
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 7: Kevin Lee look Ale said, the kid was super strong.

537
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 7: He's definitely a gifted kid. He's got to get his

538
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 7: head straight now and really forget about the bullshit talking

539
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 7: and all the stupidity. That's not that's only going to

540
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 7: get yourself far. He's got to really go back then.

541
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 7: He's he's a young kid. He's still he's not going anywhere.

542
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 7: I mean, he definitely definitely got the talent. But some

543
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 7: of the things he was saying. I mean, man, I

544
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 7: even looked at like people analyzing the fight. I was

545
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 7: confused on this, but I was like, wow, they are

546
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 7: not nobody's putting any emphasis on what this kid did

547
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 7: with Kabeeb. But I think that was a telltale sign

548
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 7: this kid's not going anywhere. Al said it himself, him

549
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 7: and Kabeb would still be fighting. Nobody was gonna quitting

550
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 7: in a fight, you know what I mean, Like, this

551
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 7: is the mentality you want out of a fighter, you

552
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 7: know what I mean. So they kind of I mean,

553
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 7: he was such a huge underdog, which I'm glad because

554
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 7: everybody made a lot of money, But he was such

555
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 7: a huge underdog for what reason. I really didn't get it.

556
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 7: You know, Like people were saying, the guy's got a

557
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 7: long reach. I've never seen one fight with that guy

558
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 7: had a long reach. It's not like he's six' two

559
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 7: when he's got a long, reach you know WHAT i.

560
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 7: Mean he's got long. Arms he doesn't use. Him he

561
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 7: uses them for. Wrestling that's why he can lock those

562
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 7: hands behind your ass, easy you know WHAT i.

563
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 5: Mean that helps him for. There but standing up, WISE

564
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 5: i didn't see any progression at.

565
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 4: All, well you just gave me a million different things

566
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 4: to chew. ON i, mean at least as far as

567
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 4: the betting line is, concerned they're trying to draw two way,

568
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 4: action And al didn't necessarily have that signature. Win he

569
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 4: had just The Diego sanchez win since twenty fifteen on,

570
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 4: paper despite the fact that he had to win Over Kevin.

571
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 4: LEE i think that at least speaks to why the

572
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 4: odds were. Pronounced not THAT i agreed with them at, all,

573
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 4: right but as far as the performance.

574
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 7: Dress that, Though BUT i do think you gotta put

575
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 7: emphasis on that. KID i don't think anybody believes he

576
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 7: took that fight on twenty four. Hours, notice, man he

577
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 7: trained for a three round. Fight he five rounds with

578
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 7: a guy that's hammering, people And i'm gonna tell you,

579
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 7: something winna, lose you. Know like there was a little,

580
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 7: controversy but That Joyey mosmdal fight is a huge fight

581
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 7: to look. At Joe mosvedeal is a great. FIGHTER i

582
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 7: respect that guy a. Lot that kid's a, fighter And

583
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 7: al was right they. WERE i don't care who won the,

584
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 7: fighter who you think won the. Fight it was a fucking,

585
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 7: fight you know. WHAT i, mean And Joey mosvedeal is

586
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 7: walking through a. Lot you see what he does to.

587
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 5: People he's a. Beast he's a.

588
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,959
Speaker 7: BEAST i, Mean SO i, look who did, uh you,

589
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 7: Know Kevin?

590
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 5: Lee WHEN i looked at The barbosa.

591
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 7: Fight Kevin lee Got borbosa after the guy just got

592
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 7: more by a grizzly bear like.

593
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 4: And he also got knocked down in that. Fight and

594
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 4: there were, yes, no no doubt about. It the line

595
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 4: is what it. IS i in terms of the, performance,

596
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 4: though see we led the, Show kenny AND i did

597
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 4: by suggesting that this is sort of the performance that

598
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 4: allows out to cross into the elite at the, elite

599
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 4: at least in terms of the public. Perception, right like

600
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 4: we but like he is an elite. Fighter and even

601
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 4: though Maybe i'm not Sure Kevin lee underestimated him, NECESSARILY

602
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 4: i think we can all agree That al is now

603
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 4: a truly elite lightweight who on his Best Saturday night

604
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,719
Speaker 4: can become the lightweight. Champion what impressed you the most

605
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 4: about what he Accomplished saturday?

606
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 7: Night look, AGAIN i think We kenny, said the way

607
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 7: he had overcome adversity with the, injuries and then the

608
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 7: way he had overcome you, know the guy had his.

609
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 7: Back he was never really close to doing. ANYTHING i

610
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 7: Think Matt sarah did a phenomenal job with. That we

611
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 7: knew that going. In matt was telling, me, dude his

612
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 7: jiu jitsu defense is. Excellent he's got chills over there

613
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 7: trying to choke, him you, know every day in.

614
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 5: The, gym and they do choke him.

615
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 7: Sometimes but the thing is he's used the high level

616
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 7: guys attacking his.

617
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 5: Neck and that's WHAT i.

618
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 7: THINK i Think Kevin lee in his head thought he

619
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 7: was going to take him, down get his back and choke.

620
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 7: HIM i think it was that. Easy he's telling, You

621
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 7: i'm the biggest stronger. Guy did it once, Before i'll

622
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 7: do it. Again But al was the guy that really

623
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 7: evolved as a. Person oh, yeah. Yeah and to, me

624
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 7: evolution is taking the things you should be doing them

625
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 7: doing and doing it at a higher.

626
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 5: Degree you know WHAT i.

627
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 7: Mean his timing on his punches was, beautiful his head

628
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 7: movement was, beautiful his defense on the ground was, beautiful you.

629
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 5: Know so there was a big evolution.

630
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 7: There SO i, think you, KNOW i like the way

631
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 7: we addressed everything going into that.

632
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,719
Speaker 5: Camp that's WHY i said it was no surprises and

633
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 5: the way.

634
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 7: He was so poised when he was hunting him down

635
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 7: and he didn't overextend himself to get taken down and

636
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 7: just kept him at the end of those punches and

637
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 7: just kept pot shotting that guy around the. RING i,

638
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 7: mean it, was it, Was it was. Great it was

639
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 7: great to. SEE i Think felder did a great job

640
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 7: because he's a stand up. Guy he saw a lot

641
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 7: of the nuances That al was doing and he was

642
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 7: trying to call him out ON.

643
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 5: TV i think he did a good job because there.

644
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 7: Were a lot of body shifts and looking one way

645
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 7: going the other, way and he did a lot in that.

646
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 5: Fight.

647
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 7: Man that spin elbow was, awesome. Beautiful, YEAH i, mean come,

648
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 7: on he. Did the head kick was. Phenomenal he hasn't

649
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 7: even thrown the kick in his list two, fights you.

650
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 7: Know so when he's healthy he can go back to

651
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 7: edding a couple of. Weapons AND i think his poise

652
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 7: and his ability to stay the course and always looked

653
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 7: like he was in control of that fight even when

654
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 7: he was in a bad. Position WAS i agree with?

655
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 5: That plus?

656
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 4: Me, YEAH i think that's the thesis statement right, there

657
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 4: even when he was in compromising spots he felt like,

658
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 4: somehow some way he was going to get out of

659
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 4: it and was in control of the. Fight just a brilliant.

660
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 4: Performance and, Yeah Paul felder spent eight weeks breaking down

661
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 4: WHAT i was. Doing you could be sure he had

662
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 4: a lot of insight into the Way al moves right

663
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 4: as a guy who prepared to fight him In. April

664
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 4: so just in terms of the scorecards and anything, ELSE i, mean,

665
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 4: certainly once you knew it was, unanimous you knew you

666
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 4: had this TO i didn't think it was a foregone.

667
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 4: CONCLUSION i don't know if it was round two or round,

668
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 4: three BUT i thought you could have Given al one

669
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 4: of those, rounds, right Because Kevin lee didn't do a

670
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 4: whole lot on the, ground and as you, said when

671
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 4: they were, standing it was all al. Right so when you,

672
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 4: heard you, know forty, eight forty, seven forty, nine forty,

673
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 4: SIX i mean you knew it was going to be

674
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 4: for your.

675
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 7: Guy, Yeah well WHEN i heard forty nine forty, six,

676
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 7: LISTEN i screwed, UP i think a little, bit BECAUSE

677
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 7: i really thought he won that. Fight i'm not saying,

678
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 7: easy because it was a competitive. Fight Kevin lee did

679
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 7: a great, job but idea was no question in my.

680
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 7: Mind the second rounds tricky BECAUSE i remember telling him

681
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 7: that's the way to.

682
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 5: Win back. Around you, know he hit a little.

683
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 7: Trouble kevin did a little damage on the, floor but

684
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 7: the last two minutes plus Was al chasing that guy

685
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 7: around the ring. Again you, Know god shot in, them

686
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 7: so damage, wise there is absolutely no question who won that. Fight,

687
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 7: uh if you want to go control, time it gets

688
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 7: a little. Tricky i'm gonna say the second. Round if

689
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 7: you're A Kevin lee, fan you probably gonna give it

690
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 7: To Kevin. Lee if you're An al, fan you're definitely

691
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 7: given it. Out BUT i made the mistake OF i

692
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 7: thought it was a foe gun conclusion that he won

693
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 7: the first and the. SECOND i Gave Kevin lee the

694
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 7: third and now won the fourth and.

695
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 5: Fifth s.

696
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 7: Clear, Yeah one was totally. Clear, one four to five

697
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 7: was totally. Clear Two it depends on what you're looking.

698
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 7: AT i, guess you, know BECAUSE i watched the fight

699
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 7: again just to make sure it was. Right so he

700
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 7: had him, down never in any, danger but he got

701
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 7: off a couple of. Shots BUT i think When al

702
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 7: got back, up his shots definitely you, know equalized whatever

703
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 7: happened on the, flood but you could go eat like.

704
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 7: Again BUT i got to tell, You, mma junkie had

705
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 7: n't win him by five. Points they gave him a

706
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 7: ten to eight in the fifth, round WHICH i don't agree.

707
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 7: With but that was a that was a pronounced walk

708
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 7: down beating man that, way even when he put his hands,

709
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 7: down he still may have missed with his. HEAD i,

710
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 7: mean that's right out of a fricking. MOVIE i, mean

711
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 7: you can't make that ship. Up and then you know

712
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 7: when he screams at him at the, end same al,

713
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 7: buddy same fucking, out you know WHAT i, Mean, like

714
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 7: you got to back your ship up. NOW i think

715
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 7: that's the When Kevin lee says he's, embarrassed what's he embarrassed?

716
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 4: About he said he was gonna humiliate the guy and

717
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 4: he got. Humiliated, YEAH i, mean.

718
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 7: But but because of his bullshit, talking that's what's. Embarrassing

719
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 7: everything is said came to bite in the, ass right you.

720
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 5: Know but, uh one more thing BEFORE i get.

721
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 7: TOO i Love. MILWAUKEE i think it's a great. City

722
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 7: people were beautiful and a shout out To duke Rufus.

723
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 7: Man always hospitable and let's us use the place treated

724
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 7: those guys Like gold And. Man this guy can recommend

725
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 7: The italian restaurants better than.

726
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 5: Anybody. Man he gives a, great great recommendation that we.

727
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 5: Love so. Thanks shout out To Duke rufus and everybody

728
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 5: else at the.

729
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 4: Academy, Yeah duke is a champion of a human. BEING

730
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 4: i got to spend some time with him after the.

731
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 4: Fights not a good knight For rufus, sport they were over,

732
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 4: four but, YEAH i THINK i ate. It that Same italian,

733
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 4: joint best chicken palm of my. Life light on the, cheese,

734
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 4: though light on the. Cheese so, again any time you

735
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 4: have to, go you let us. Know BUT i have

736
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 4: a lot of notes on this, fight So i'm gonna

737
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 4: pick your brain for another couple of. Minutes whatever the

738
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 4: recipe was in terms of the, cardio the strength and,

739
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 4: conditioning hopefully you can bottle that for the next training.

740
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 4: Camp because WHEN i hear you talk about the details

741
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 4: and how when he had to shut it, down he

742
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 4: was able to shut it down and yet still on

743
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 4: this highest profile of fight, nights he was able to

744
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 4: be the furthest thing from flat and go ten hard

745
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 4: fives if he needed, to or seemingly you had to

746
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 4: feel really good about the preparation resulting in that type

747
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 4: of cardiovascular condition that late in a five round.

748
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 7: Fight, yeah without a. Doubt look, again who do you

749
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 7: think if that fight went three more? Rounds who do

750
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:40,959
Speaker 7: you think was gonna be?

751
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: All?

752
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 4: Right?

753
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 7: RIGHT i mean think about. It but but, YEAH i

754
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 7: think we found a. Recipe we talked about it even

755
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 7: after the. Fight it Was al's ability to pull back

756
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 7: when he wanted to keep. Training but if the mantra was,

757
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 7: DUDE i want to you have to train. HEALTHY i

758
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 7: don't want no, injuries like. Nothing if you feel, bad

759
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 7: we take a day. Off it's not the end of the.

760
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 7: World and for, ME i kept beating into, it said

761
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 7: you went five, rounds what a grizzly, bear and you

762
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 7: trained for. THREE i, mean we're training. NOW i don't

763
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 7: care how way you think your cardio's. At it's one

764
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 7: hundred times better than it was that, night you. Know but, again,

765
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 7: right this is the kid that really trains his ass.

766
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 7: Off so we did have to pull back a little.

767
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 7: Bit BUT i think we trained smart and it really paid.

768
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 7: OFF i think we found a good. Recipe hopefully we

769
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 7: stick to it and. Things could you, know progress from

770
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 7: you you prove.

771
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 4: That, yeah all, right last. Thing so we launched this

772
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 4: show In april of twenty, Fifteen so you're big Three Chris,

773
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 4: Widman ally quin to Al Jamaine. Sterling, RIGHT i want

774
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,479
Speaker 4: to give you some. Numbers this is WHAT i spend

775
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 4: my day, doing, right getting ready for The Anakin florin.

776
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: Podcast so since we started this, Show Chris, widman he's

777
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 4: two and four best win in my, Opinion Kelvin Gastallom

778
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 4: july of twenty, Seventeen Al Jamaine sterling since we started the,

779
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 4: show six and three best, Win hen And Brow july

780
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 4: of twenty. Seventeen Ali quinta has only fought three, times

781
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 4: but he's two and one and had this win Over

782
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 4: Kevin lee this. WEEKEND i think this is the biggest

783
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 4: singular win that we have had for you since we

784
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 4: started this, show AND i know you're not gonna acknowledge

785
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 4: it as, such, Right and that night On Long island

786
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 4: With Chris widman was a special. Night but this Puts

787
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 4: allen championship. Contention and given the backdrop and, everything the

788
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 4: kempflow set up and what he dealt, with like, bro

789
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 4: like this is a celebration. TODAY i don't know what you're.

790
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 4: DRINKING i know you're at the, gym, right but like

791
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 4: this is in my, mind this is the biggest win

792
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 4: For ray long, ago m M a in THE, ufcu

793
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 4: in the four years we've been doing this.

794
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 5: Show, WELL i gotta tell you it certainly felt like

795
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 5: that for.

796
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 7: Sure BUT i, think but What i'm getting based on

797
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 7: your numbers that you gave me this fucking show is

798
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 7: Poor Chris White.

799
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 5: Dog you do to that guy you put the fucking?

800
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 4: Horns does he have a voodoo doll in the background?

801
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 5: There? Ray what is? That you know What whiteman's gonna.

802
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 5: Do he's gonna force me not to do the fucking know.

803
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 4: Anymore you, Know i'm. Sorry you're. Right it's been. Good

804
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 4: it's been good for al.

805
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 7: Though, ray it's been great for Our i'm telling, You,

806
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 7: kenny this had a championship field for. ME i almost

807
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 7: want to SAY i got three champions now from the ground.

808
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 5: UP i really.

809
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 7: Do that's how it felt for. Me and my attachment

810
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 7: to this kid is is pretty. Close so this is, personal,

811
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 7: Man it really, Was and JUST i love you, know

812
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 7: when a guy's talking ship and you can go in

813
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 7: there and just put a stamp like that it's it's

814
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 7: a good. Thing but the biggest surprising the night for

815
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 7: me was that his Uncle spike wasn't in the.

816
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 5: Audience Kenny oh, yeah come, On kenny oh, MAN i

817
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 5: think THAT i throw, YOU i throw you a.

818
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 4: Layup, yeah he has no idea what you're talking. About

819
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 4: and he he has a lot of pop cultural stuff

820
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 4: up in that brain of, his but he has absolutely

821
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 4: no idea What i'm gonna.

822
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 7: Tell you about ten o'clock. Tonight you're gonna sit back

823
00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 7: and you're gonna be.

824
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 4: Laughing are? Alive you gotta give me the. Contact, Yeah

825
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 4: i'm clueless right. Now, hey last, thing last thing in

826
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 4: terms of what is next For ally QUINT i know

827
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 4: when he was with me and The octagon after the,

828
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 4: fact he called for a title, shot and he's certainly

829
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 4: a guy who has earned that and is in that.

830
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 4: Conversation even THOUGH i think most people would like to

831
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 4: See Tony ferguson, Face Kabib Ken flow said he'd like

832
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 4: to See al Fight. Connor you, Know Dustin, Pourier Justin,

833
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 4: gaetchee other guys that are in and around that. Area Edson,

834
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 4: barboza what do you think is going to be next

835
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 4: for L.

836
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 5: Man i'd love to see him Fight. CONNOR i really.

837
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 5: WOULD i think that's a great.

838
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 7: Fight, obviously it's a money, fight you, know go back

839
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 7: due to The Italian irish thing back in THE.

840
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 5: Fi, yeah you, KNOW i bring back some GOOD.

841
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 4: Msg do it AT.

842
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 7: Msg do it AT msg, man that place will go.

843
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 7: Berserk SO i, think, UH i think it's a great

844
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 7: fight for both.

845
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 5: GUYS i really.

846
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 4: Do, yeah let's just do it anywhere But New york

847
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 4: WITH i THINK ny.

848
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 5: Anywhere BUT i Think kenny just got the, joke But

849
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 5: i'm not.

850
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 4: Sure yeah he. Did he. Did NOW i gotta get.

851
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 4: Him look At, connor Ay A, Quinta Gregor Ali aquinta

852
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 4: will do it In Las. Vegas i'm not gonna do

853
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 4: it In New. York will do it In Las, vegas and,

854
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 4: uh let's do. It well hey, man, well hey, Man

855
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 4: I'm i'm really glad, that uh THAT i didn't see

856
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 4: you after the, fight BECAUSE i wanted to congratulate you

857
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 4: here on The Anakin florian. Podcast and, uh the next

858
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 4: time we'll talk to you it will Be New Year's,

859
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 4: Eve december thirty, First so next week we're just DOING

860
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 4: ufc two thirty two. PICKS i know you don't like,

861
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 4: predictions so you will be off next. Week congrats on

862
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 4: a huge.

863
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 5: Fucking after a big one like. That you're letting me.

864
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 7: GO i got a pink. Slip, hey, Listen i'm Gonna

865
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 7: i'm gonna break some news to.

866
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 3: You.

867
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 5: Uh december thirty, first they'll be at.

868
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 7: The The Uh, sayama what what arena is that In

869
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 7: tokyo With.

870
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 5: Really we're celebrating In.

871
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 4: Tokyo oh. Wow BUT i.

872
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 7: Will will definitely call. Me he will definitely do. It

873
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 7: it'll be.

874
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 4: Man, hey please send our best To al and To

875
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 4: matt and everybody, else and. Congrats. Man you know you

876
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 4: guys did a great. Job AND i Know Kevin, lee,

877
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 4: Missus robert fallis on the other. Side and you, KNOW

878
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 4: i sometimes you guys don't seem to get the. Credit

879
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 4: AND i think when you produce a win like, this

880
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 4: people acknowledge the job that you guys. Do and, hey,

881
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 4: man pleasures, ares thanks for your. Time enjoy the W

882
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 4: we'll talk to you in two, weeks.

883
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 7: Hey getting the credit or, Not, man we'll live in

884
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 7: life large and we love. It, man we. DON'T i

885
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 7: don't care about, credit care about my guys. Winning we

886
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 7: all stick together and it's a great, thing, man it really.

887
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 7: Is so it's good to get a little. Credit but we,

888
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 7: know we know where we're at with, everything so it's

889
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 7: all good, stuff all.

890
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 4: Right love, it, buddy have a good. Week cash that

891
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 4: check for.

892
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 5: Me thanks, Guys, Hey, Buddy.

893
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 4: Ray long ago every week here on the Anacon Florian.

894
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 4: Podcast so you got guys at lightweight Like Alexander hernandez out,

895
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 4: there AND i think sometimes why people don't Give Ali

896
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 4: quinn to the credit he deserves going into a, fight

897
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 4: whether it's a betting line or the experts out. There

898
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 4: and you did kind of have to look around to

899
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 4: find people that were Picking ali quint in this. Fight

900
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 4: BUT i think some of it is that he is

901
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 4: an undersized lightweight who doesn't cut a lot of, weight

902
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 4: who people see as a guy who probably could make forty,

903
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 4: five especially when you look at guys Like Alexander hernandez

904
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 4: and the Aforementioned Paul felder and these guys WHO i, mean,

905
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 4: dude Dracar close started his weight cut north of two hundred, Pounds.

906
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 4: Kenny you, know SO i think this is going to

907
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 4: give ali quint to everything he needs to sort of

908
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 4: move his career. Forward in an upward. Trajectory BUT i

909
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 4: think you can unders he does give up size in this.

910
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 4: Division there's no doubt about sure he.

911
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 6: Does but again you look at the energy that he,

912
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 6: brings the conditioning that he, brings the toughness that he.

913
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 6: Brings those, qualities in my, opinion are way more important than.

914
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 4: Size, NO i agree in terms of quantifying The Robert

915
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 4: fallis loss, right and it's about a year to the

916
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 4: day That robert took his own. Life And robert certainly

917
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 4: a great cornerman and a guy who knew how to

918
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 4: maximize those sixty, seconds particularly on fight. Night you Know

919
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 4: Ken flow as in my, mind the best analyst in the,

920
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 4: game talks a lot about, adjustments, right and a corner's

921
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 4: ability to make those. Adjustments Bill belichick coaches in THE.

922
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 4: Nfl THE nfl is all about. Adjustments that's all it's, about,

923
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 4: right it really. Is AND i think not having fall

924
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 4: us With Dewey cooper not the most experienced mixed martial arts,

925
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 4: guy AND i Think Corey goodwin's the other guy in that,

926
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 4: corner and again a lot of GOOD mma people. There

927
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 4: BUT i don't. KNOW i just think For kevin it's

928
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: hard to completely quantify that, loss but it's a big

929
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 4: loss for, him particularly on fight. NIGHT i think you

930
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 4: make a great.

931
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 6: Point Robert follis also really gave a lot of mental

932
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 6: stability to his fighters with all.

933
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 4: Of his experience and with his great motivational.

934
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 6: Talks this is a guy who had been in there

935
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 6: so many times and had been a part of so

936
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 6: many gigantic fights in THE, ufc AND i think throughout

937
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 6: that training, camp giving that, stability giving that confidence to his,

938
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 6: fighters giving him that ability to they composed during.

939
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 4: A fight in between rounds is.

940
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 6: Huge so, yeah it was a big loss for him

941
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 6: For Kevin lee in a lot of different.

942
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:13,479
Speaker 4: Ways All, Right Ali quinta with a monumental main event

943
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 4: when and we, congratulate raging fucking. AL i, MEAN i

944
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 4: still can't even believe the way he was able to

945
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 4: do it, Right and say what you want about the

946
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 4: scorecards and everything, else but you, know you got up

947
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 4: from watching that fight thinking That Ali quinta had not,

948
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 4: handily but had certainly done enough to Beat Kevin. Lee

949
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 4: and by the, way the breaking news From, RAY i

950
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 4: guess must be That Ulukas sasaki is no longer A ufc,

951
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,479
Speaker 4: fighter and he's competing for one or something On New Year's.

952
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 4: Eve the other, reference who the fuck knows what he

953
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 4: was talking. About that's. Good it kind of makes me

954
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 4: feel young when all of my colleagues are younger than

955
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 4: me essentially, Now so that's. Good Edson, barbosa who what

956
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 4: a striker? Man and you, KNOW i know this wasn't

957
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 4: the most perfect. Performance even some of the people very

958
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 4: close to him would acknowledge that after the. Fact but

959
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 4: this is one of the best STRIKERS i have ever.

960
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 4: Seen AND i am, not you, know a mixed martial arts,

961
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 4: expert even THOUGH i watch a lot of, it, right

962
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 4: BUT i JUST i marvel at the way this guy.

963
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 4: Strikes AND i, think When i'm sixty five years, Old God,

964
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 4: Willing i'm gonna still be talking about a guy Like

965
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 4: Edson barboza because in a pure striking, setting you, know

966
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 4: foot or hand to the target in a blink and

967
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 4: then retreats. DEFENSIVELY i really liked WHAT i saw this

968
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 4: weekend against a guy In Dan, hooker who, was you,

969
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 4: know dropping people left and right going.

970
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 6: It as far as you know the, weapons his offensive,

971
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 6: weapons they are no doubt.

972
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 4: Elite the speed at which he throws those.

973
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 6: Weapons the timing that he, has the ferocity in which

974
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 6: he throws, them his ability to hurt, Guys it's. Tremendous

975
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 6: edson is an absolute. Beast he showed a lot of

976
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 6: toughness in that fight Against Dan. Hooker Dan hooker showed

977
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 6: the most amount of TOUGHNESS i think that we've seen

978
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 6: out of, him and one of the toughest and grimiest

979
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 6: performance That i've ever seen in the octagon.

980
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 4: Period this guy is an absolute.

981
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 6: Beast kept coming forward even though he was taking a

982
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 6: lot of punishment from the Speedy Edson. Barbosa but you

983
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 6: know what worries me In Edsen barbosa is that he

984
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 6: hasn't changed as a fighter as much AS i would.

985
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 6: Like he has so many great weapons and so many

986
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 6: great physical, gifts but he doesn't find those proper, angles

987
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 6: and sometimes his shot selection on what he should throw

988
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 6: at the right time kind of gets me shaking my

989
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 6: head a little. BIT i thought he should have been

990
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 6: attacking those legs way. MORE i thought he was throwing

991
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 6: a lot of risky shots going to the body repeatedly

992
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 6: with those. LEGS i don't know why he didn't go

993
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 6: upstairs to try to take Out. Hooker once and for

994
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 6: all with a head. Kick but AGAIN i wasn't in.

995
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 6: THERE a lot of times when you're feeling a, fight

996
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 6: you feel something. Else but For Edsen, BARBOSA i think

997
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 6: the main thing, though is he's either going forward or

998
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 6: he's going. Backwards and if he doesn't hurt, you if

999
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 6: he does doesn't like hurt you with the, shot he

1000
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 6: doesn't really know what to do and starts to panic

1001
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 6: a little, bit and he makes the fight more difficult

1002
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 6: on himself because of. It SO i think just finding

1003
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 6: a little bit more angles for himself moving laterally, BETTER

1004
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 6: i think will help him moving. Forward hopefully he's able

1005
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 6: to make those adjustments, because like you said, that when

1006
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 6: he does throw those, weapons, Man i'm not sure there's

1007
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 6: a better guy out. There it's A barbosa is just

1008
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 6: so damn fast and so.

1009
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 4: Explosive and even though maybe there are some FIGHT iq, issues,

1010
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 4: right he's not a guy that a lot of people call,

1011
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 4: OUT i Guess Dan hooker NOTWITHSTANDING i think he did

1012
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 4: call for a fight against, him, right but not gonna

1013
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 4: Hear Ray longo come on, Here kenny and, say oh

1014
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 4: give Us, barbosa, Right, like he's not a guy that

1015
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 4: people want to fight, Right, LIKE i didn't even want

1016
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 4: to go near him after watching what he did To

1017
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 4: Dan hooker this. Weekend but, yeah you bring up a

1018
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 4: lot of good. Points the FIGHT iq is such that

1019
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 4: he put himself in a compromising situation Against Dan hooker

1020
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 4: when there was absolutely no need at any point for

1021
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 4: this fight to potentially be in jeopardy as we saw

1022
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 4: the hendulum swing their. Midfight so absolutely you hit on

1023
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 4: a lot of good stuff. There but another big win

1024
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 4: by knockout For reds And. Barboza he did not get a,

1025
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 4: bonus so you, know maybe THE ufc saw some of

1026
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 4: the things that you did as far As Dan hooker is.

1027
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 4: Concerned AND i sort, of AS i called, it what

1028
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 4: popped into my head was be careful what you wish,

1029
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 4: for Right AND i Know Dan hooker always wants the

1030
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 4: biggest fight to challenge himself against somebody in the top.

1031
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 4: Five this did not go his. Way next level. Toughness

1032
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 4: hard to Quantify kenny what this type of beating could

1033
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 4: do for him going. Forward you, know he does have

1034
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 4: a lot OF mma miles relative to his, age even

1035
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 4: though he professes to train. Smart but there were times

1036
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 4: WHEN i thought the referee could have stopped this. Fight

1037
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 4: there were TIMES i thought the corner could have stopped the.

1038
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 4: FIGHT i, mean when you were, watching are you sort

1039
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 4: of of that mentality That Rob hines had a couple

1040
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 4: of different opportunities where, he at least as the, referee

1041
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 4: could have jumped in. There john couldn't agree.

1042
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 6: MORE i was a little disappointed both in the corner

1043
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 6: and by the. REFEREE i, mean, listen we've seen some amazing, comebacks,

1044
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 6: Right we've seen a lot of toughness in the octagon

1045
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 6: from guys Like gaechee And alvarez And Dustin, poirier the

1046
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 6: ability to come back and battle back after dealing with

1047
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 6: a lot of. Punishment but the amount of punishment That

1048
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 6: hooker was taking in that fight without really giving any

1049
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 6: major damage To Edson, BARBOSA i just to, me there

1050
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 6: was no doubt of what was going to. Happen we

1051
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 6: knew who was going to win that, fight AND i

1052
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 6: think that we could have Saved Dan hooker from a

1053
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,959
Speaker 6: lot of damage in that, fight both to his head

1054
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 6: and to his. Body and, AGAIN i think you kind

1055
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 6: of have to have a different perspective heading to a. Fight,

1056
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 6: yes you want your fighter to, win, absolutely but don't

1057
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 6: you want your fighter to be healthy, too Don't you

1058
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 6: want your fighter to have a longer. Career and those

1059
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 6: are the kind of fights that maybe can take away

1060
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 6: from those extra five or six, fights not to, mention

1061
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 6: maybe take away from his ability to function with his

1062
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 6: full capabilities later in his. Life so, absolutely that's just

1063
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 6: not worth. It you have one, brain and a lot

1064
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 6: of times we forget that in the fight.

1065
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 4: Game, Right, no you're, right and you know he's gonna

1066
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 4: be pissing blood for three, weeks, Right and of course

1067
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,479
Speaker 4: he would then throw his own, offense right because he's

1068
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 4: just so tough and he wants to stay in the,

1069
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 4: fight even though there was nothing behind. It you, know

1070
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 4: at times you're, like oh, man the referee should come in.

1071
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 4: There but then it's, like oh, wait he's throwing, offense

1072
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 4: and it doesn't it doesn't, matter you, know even though

1073
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 4: he's throwing. OFFENSE i still think there were windows in

1074
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 4: which you could have stopped this. Fight and as far

1075
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 4: as the cornermen are, concerned AND i know there have been,

1076
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 4: instances As paul felt a reference When Duke rufis. STOPPED

1077
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 4: i believe a Showtime pettis fight, recently but generally, speaking

1078
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 4: high profile cornermen and women in these high profile situations

1079
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 4: do not stop these, Fights, Kenny they just don't do.

1080
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 4: It and until that starts to happen with more, REGULARITY

1081
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 4: i don't think you're gonna have anything resembling a. Trend

1082
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 4: the rules, say, technically, right a cornerman can't throw his

1083
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 4: towel into the octagon to stop a. Fight news, Flash

1084
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 4: if you throw your towel into the, octagon they will

1085
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 4: pause the. Action then you can jump over the fence

1086
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 4: and give your fighter a. Hug, Okay so it is

1087
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 4: very easy as a cornerman to stop the. Fight just

1088
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 4: jump the fucking fence and say you're trying to save

1089
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 4: your fighter right now.

1090
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 6: Exactly and THAT i believe is where it comes, from

1091
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 6: by the, Way so, yes you're right.

1092
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 4: Now oh, right right. Exactly so NOW i understand there

1093
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 4: can be no worse reality for a. Cornerman and you're

1094
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,959
Speaker 4: about to Corner Ryan hall in a couple of. Weeks

1095
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 4: then if if you throw in the, towel so to,

1096
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 4: speak and you're in the locker room after the, fight

1097
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 4: And Ryan hall Says, kenny, listen, MAN i love, you but,

1098
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,959
Speaker 4: DUDE i haven't competed since twenty. Sixteen, LIKE i don't

1099
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 4: know IF i can have you corner me for my next,

1100
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 4: fight because you fucking stopped this. One but LIKE i

1101
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 4: have show and win, money and you just prevented me

1102
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 4: from having a chance to win that win. Money And

1103
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 4: i've come back in fights before and there could that

1104
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 4: would be one of the worst nights of your. Life

1105
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 4: and correct me If i'm, Wrong but that's why people

1106
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 4: in your, position high profile, cornermen don't seem to be

1107
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 4: willing to pull that trigger without a. Doubt it is

1108
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 4: indeed a.

1109
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 6: Dilemma and also so you got to deal with your

1110
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 6: fighter at the end of the day and kind of

1111
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 6: look them in the. Eye but on the other side of,

1112
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 6: things you also have to look at. Health and, yes

1113
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 6: that fight is extremely important to that. Guy but if

1114
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 6: your fighter is taking an absolute beating and just the

1115
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 6: flow of the, fight it's just not going their way

1116
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 6: and it's only getting, worse and they've taken a lot

1117
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 6: of shots to the, leg a lot of shots of the,

1118
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 6: body and even more to the. Head, man you gotta

1119
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 6: look out for the safety of your. Fighter that is your.

1120
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 6: ROLE i think number, one number one on fight night

1121
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 6: is to protect your. Fighter and that's the role of

1122
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 6: the referee as. Well it's the safety of the. Fighter

1123
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 6: was the referee looking out for the safety Of Dan?

1124
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 6: Hooker sometimes you gotta save a fighter from. THEMSELVES a

1125
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 6: lot of TIMES i don't think that was the. Case

1126
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 6: Dan hooker proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that

1127
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 6: he's one of the toughest guys ever in THE, Ufc

1128
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 6: but there was no need for.

1129
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 4: It, yeah, NO i, Agree and because it is so

1130
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 4: much easier said than done for a cornerman to do

1131
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 4: WHAT i just, described the onus has to be on the,

1132
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 4: referee AND i think these people have to be encouraged

1133
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 4: to err on the side of a premature, stoppage. Right

1134
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 4: they have to get safety back to the forefront of their.

1135
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 4: Minds And Rob hines is a good experienced. Referee he

1136
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 4: teaches the class for referees and, judges, Right SO i,

1137
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 4: thought if anybody was in that, situation you, know other

1138
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 4: than you, know all the elite guys like the no

1139
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 4: Nonsense Keith peterson that we talk about on a regular basis,

1140
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 4: HERE i thought for Sure Rob hines would have found

1141
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 4: a window earlier to get in there and stop the.

1142
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 4: Fight but maybe the referees have to save some of

1143
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 4: these corner men and women as. Well, nonetheless a big

1144
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 4: win For reds And, barbosa and thankfully For Dan. Hooker

1145
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 4: he was competing at fifty five here and he was

1146
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 4: hydrated because, otherwise, ACTUALLY i who knows if it's thankfully,

1147
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 4: right but at featherweight he would have been knocked out this,

1148
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 4: evening all, right anything else on the main card At Rob,

1149
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 4: FAUGHN i thought a really clean. Performance you, know he

1150
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 4: felt like he was going to be the bigger, man

1151
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 4: the stronger, man and even as the fight war, on

1152
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 4: the faster. Man thought this was a clean performance Against

1153
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 4: Sergio pettis and again proves that he's a, relevant you,

1154
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 4: know top eight type banham weight now moving into twenty.

1155
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 6: Nineteen, absolutely, LISTEN i Thought rob font had one of

1156
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,959
Speaker 6: the best performances of his. Career his job was firing really,

1157
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 6: well which was setting up the rest of his. Strikes but,

1158
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 6: YEAH i mean the size advantage for him was. Significant

1159
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 6: he utilized it to the best of his ability against

1160
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 6: the Smaller Sergio. PETTIS i Thought sergio really struggled defensively

1161
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 6: in that. Fight he just could not adapt to that

1162
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 6: long jab Of Rob. Font Rob font was throwing a

1163
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 6: variety of. Jabs he was throwing a flick, jab he

1164
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 6: was throwing a step, jab a power, jab And pettis

1165
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 6: was getting hit with pretty much all of. Them and For,

1166
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 6: pettis you gotta move your head off that center, line

1167
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 6: get that head, Moving utilize, Kicks utilize those long range,

1168
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 6: weapons maybe a sidekick or a front kick to deal

1169
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 6: with that longer jab From Rob, font and he just

1170
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 6: couldn't get it, going. Man AND i think that he

1171
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 6: really struggled and it was frustrated by those strikes From Rob.

1172
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 6: FONT i Thought Rob font was mixing things up very

1173
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 6: well with his takedowns as. Well he was winning rounds

1174
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 6: because of his ability to be a little bit more

1175
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 6: versatile Than Sergio.

1176
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 4: Pettis, yeah nice job by that, Corner Joe, Losan Tyson

1177
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 4: chardier as. Well Rob fon's got a good thing. Going you,

1178
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 4: know he drives so Much kenny to, train drives To

1179
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 4: loson's in Southeastern, massachusetts drives to The university Of Southern

1180
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 4: maine three times a week for. Wrestling you know that's

1181
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 4: a two hour, drive, Right, like he's really committed to this,

1182
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 4: thing and he's a really good. Kid AND i do

1183
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 4: feel good for. Him and on the other, side you,

1184
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 4: Know Duke rufus did say to me after the, fact you,

1185
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 4: know maybe Maybe sergio shouldn't have taken a fight so.

1186
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 4: Soon you, know this was nine weeks after that loss

1187
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 4: To juicy A formiga And sergio seemed pretty hell bent

1188
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 4: on competing In, milwaukee but quick turn moving up a

1189
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 4: weight class against one of the better fighters in that.

1190
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 4: DIVISION a lot of people kind of felt like Maybe

1191
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 4: sergio had had bitten off more than he could chew

1192
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 4: Against Rob, faughn and that's kind of the way it played.

1193
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 4: Out and Then Charles, Olivera, kenny when you talk about

1194
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 4: the great offensive jiu jitsu guys IN ufc, History Charles

1195
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 4: olivera is that guy right. Now twelve career wins by

1196
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 4: submission in THE. Ufc nobody he has, More and, man

1197
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,280
Speaker 4: did he just make it look easy against A brazilian

1198
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 4: jiu jitsu black? Belt he really. Did you, Know Jim

1199
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 4: miller has certainly lost this.

1200
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 6: Step he's had a lot of fights in THE, ufc

1201
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 6: a lot of great fights in THE, ufc and he's

1202
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 6: had a lot of. Success one of the toughest guys

1203
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 6: to compete inside the octagon as, well but you could

1204
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 6: See Charles olivera was just much. Faster you, know you

1205
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 6: See miller not reacting very well to the takedown to

1206
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 6: the back.

1207
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 4: Take olivera was just all over a.

1208
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 6: Man as soon as he had that back early in

1209
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 6: that first, round you knew it was pretty much going

1210
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 6: to be. Over you don't want a guy like A

1211
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 6: Charles olivera on your back early in the first round like.

1212
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 6: That and you Know olivera is really improving and seeing

1213
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 6: he just looks way more comfortable in the octagon now

1214
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 6: he owns that, cage he owns that, space and the

1215
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 6: fact that he has broken to Hoist gracie's record for

1216
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 6: most submissions in the octagon is just amazing in twenty, eighteen,

1217
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 6: Right it'd be one thing if he did it maybe.

1218
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 4: Early two, thousand's late.

1219
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 6: Nineties he's doing this twenty, eighteen and it's showing That

1220
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 6: brazilian jiu jitsu is still very much alive and well

1221
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 6: as far as the mixed martial arts realm is. Concerned

1222
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 6: so awesome win for him and again to come. BACK

1223
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 6: i Believe Jim miller what submitted him with a leg

1224
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 6: life back in the DAY i Knew barn twenty.

1225
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 4: Ten, yeah, yeah so that that was an awesome performance

1226
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 4: there From. Oliver i'm so glad you set up the

1227
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 4: context of What Charles oliver has done in relation To Hoys,

1228
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 4: gracie because you're, right it's like doing it in the

1229
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 4: sort of the salary cap type era doing it nowadays

1230
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 4: when people are so good at submission defense and so

1231
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 4: focused on submission defense even if they don't have more

1232
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 4: than a couple of chokes in their offensive. Arsenal you,

1233
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 4: Know Jim miller's a black belt In brazilian.

1234
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 6: Jujitsu not all black belts are created, equal but this

1235
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 6: is the guy who has hitted a lot of guys,

1236
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 6: himself so it's not like he's just, going you, know

1237
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 6: submitted some guy who's a professional, kickboxer.

1238
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 4: You, know, right but, yeah, right, Right but THE mma

1239
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 4: application of the offensive jiu jitsu For Charles, oliver AND

1240
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 4: i asked him about moving back to featherweight in our

1241
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 4: post fight interview because every TIME i do my phone

1242
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 4: call with him On, tuesday we do the fighter, calls

1243
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 4: he talks about, featherweight, right and he weighed into one

1244
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty two pounds for this fight right as

1245
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 4: if to sort of make his, statement you, know because

1246
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 4: there are Guys Chad, lapriz you, know other guys who

1247
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 4: maybe want to compete in a certain weight, class but

1248
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 4: THE ufc, says you, know you've really got to prove

1249
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 4: to us that you can do. IT i don't know

1250
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 4: if they'll let him go back down to, featherweight BUT

1251
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 4: i think he even realizes that at lightweight it's just

1252
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 4: going to be hard for him to break through and

1253
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 4: complete the. Mission whereas he feels like if He Max,

1254
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 4: holloway a guy he had a main event against him

1255
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 4: back in twenty, fifteen feels like that maybe is more

1256
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 4: palatable for. Him all, right last, thing just sort of

1257
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 4: putting a bow on this whole Corner man. Discussion so

1258
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 4: one of the, Prelims Kenny Joaquim silva was a winner

1259
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 4: by knockout Over Jared Flash. Gordon Jared gordon one of

1260
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,760
Speaker 4: the best People i've met IN, mma and it's amazing

1261
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 4: story that we tried to outline on the. Broadcast his

1262
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 4: his drug, addiction his overdosing on multiple occasions and coming

1263
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 4: back to get a second. Chance you, know family business

1264
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 4: burned down on A he's dealt with a lot of,

1265
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 4: things and Against NETO Bjj kenny at the end of

1266
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 4: the second, Round NETO bjj was attempting a knee bar

1267
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 4: and he Tore Jared gordon's, hamstring, Right So Jared gordon

1268
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 4: limps back to the, stool And Duke ruffis said after the,

1269
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 4: fact you, KNOW i sort of WISH i had stopped

1270
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 4: the fight BECAUSE i knew his hamstring was, compromised and

1271
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 4: THEN i allowed the guy to get a pretty bad

1272
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 4: concussion because the end of the, Fight Jared gordon was

1273
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 4: literally out on his, feet like he was out, cold

1274
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 4: standing on his. Feet but again it comes back to

1275
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 4: that conversation that you Know Jared. Gordon if any fighter

1276
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 4: on this, roster to a man to a woman wants

1277
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 4: to continue in that, fight It's Jared, gordon, Right and,

1278
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 4: like even on one, leg he feels like he can

1279
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 4: knock Out Joachim, silva and he landed big power shots

1280
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 4: in the third round and nearly was able to come

1281
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 4: back and. Win so it's just such a fine. Line

1282
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 4: AND i don't know that you can Fault duke in that,

1283
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 4: situation but certainly if retroactively these guys keep having, regret

1284
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 4: then maybe they'll pull the trigger at some point in

1285
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 4: the not too distant. FUTURE i.

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Speaker 6: Agree i'm not gonna pretend THAT i watched that, fight

1287
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 6: SO i can't really put it into context as well

1288
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 6: as you. Did but you, know, Listen i'm always of

1289
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,959
Speaker 6: the belief that if you're sending your fighter out there

1290
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 6: on one, leg the other guy better.

1291
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 4: Be on at least one leg as.

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00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 6: Well you, know if you're sending out your fighter and

1293
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 6: he's on one, leg his leg is messed up or

1294
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 6: compromise in some, way shape or, form and the other

1295
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 6: guy has his full, capacities you're sending your guy out

1296
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 6: to slaughter and it's not worth. It save your, fighter you,

1297
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 6: know save We you can do things if you have

1298
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 6: a broken hand or you know something's. Going but with the,

1299
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 6: LEGS i, MEAN i, DON'T i don't, KNOW i don't.

1300
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 6: Know and, Again Duke rufus also he Knows Jared gordon

1301
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 6: better THEN i certainly, do and knows what he's capable.

1302
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 6: Of BUT i think if he's saying that after the,

1303
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 6: fighting he maybe should have stopped that.

1304
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 4: Fight, yeah and you know what else is interesting That

1305
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 4: Jared gordon won the fifty thousand Dollars fight of The night. Bonus,

1306
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 4: Right so there's that, too, Right and you can argue

1307
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 4: that a big, chunk if not, all of that bonus

1308
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 4: was was earned in defeat in that third and final

1309
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 4: around as great as the fight was leading up to.

1310
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 4: It so a lot of layers to, it for.

1311
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 6: Sure and THEN i GUESS i would counter by saying

1312
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 6: this and this is, whatever and this is not for.

1313
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 6: You this is really for every corner myself. Included is

1314
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 6: the fifty thousand dollars worth it for the?

1315
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 4: Concussion? Right? Right? Well, right it makes you feel any.

1316
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 4: Better i've been hospitalized with two concussions in my life. Either,

1317
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 4: yeah AND i didn't get a. Dime we still got.

1318
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 4: It we got to track that dude, down by the,

1319
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 4: way one of these we, do, KEN i got to

1320
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 4: shut that guy. Down. Yeah And i'll just say in

1321
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 4: closing That i'm not a, fighter, Right these are just

1322
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 4: a fan essentially having his opinions having watched a shit

1323
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 4: ton of this. Stuff but, hey you, Know i'd probably

1324
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 4: be that corner man that forever jeopardized his friendship with

1325
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 4: his fighter by throwing in the towel Because i'm a.

1326
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 4: Pussy you, know you're looking out for the for their well. Being,

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Speaker 4: Man Yeah, Soft kenny Grape soft forty. Years all, right

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