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Speaker 1: It's the Son of a Butcher podcast comes to you

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Speaker 1: every Wednesday. I am your host, Claude Harmon. This week's guest, UM,

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Speaker 1: really one of my favorite people in golf, Andrew Beef

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Speaker 1: Johnson Beef um first onto the scene two thousand sixteen. UM,

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Speaker 1: and a fan favorite. But he's been struggling. Poor guy

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Speaker 1: has been struggling with injuries and uh, he can't get healthy.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to reach out talk to him. He's

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Speaker 1: got some new stuff that he's doing kind of away

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Speaker 1: to kind of get his takes. Um, you know, with

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Speaker 1: guy that's played not only in Europe but on the

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Speaker 1: PGA Tour currently hurt and you know this idea of

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Speaker 1: interesting takes on that, and UM, it's an interesting situation

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Speaker 1: to the interview with Andrew Beef Johnston. My guest today

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Speaker 1: is one of the most popular people in the game,

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Speaker 1: Andrew Beef Johnson Beef. I think the last time we

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Speaker 1: spoke was right in the middle of the pandemic. Um,

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Um, you were battling, you're

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Speaker 1: battling then, you're still battling now and you just can't

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Speaker 1: shake these injuries. Man, No, injuries have not been kind. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: last year was stranger. I changed coach last year and

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Speaker 1: what's wrong in my hand? No one can figure it out.

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Speaker 1: And it's been basically the whole season, which has been insane.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be really frustrating. Um. You know when

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Speaker 1: If it doesn't do surgery, take it out. Two weeks

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Speaker 1: And you know, now through and you're going through the

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Speaker 1: I just need a run of a few years injury free.

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Speaker 1: Whatever it is that still drives me because I know

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Speaker 1: All sports people and successful people have to be pretty

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Speaker 1: won't say long to get back into stride of playing tournaments.

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Speaker 1: And I still have ambitions getting back out to PJ

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Speaker 1: Tour winning events UM as well. So as long as

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Speaker 1: I guess one of the saving racist is UM with

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Speaker 1: also when you are injured, you could spend a lot

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Speaker 1: more time UM at home with the family. UM. You know,

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Speaker 1: a barman. He was never that good and he won't

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Speaker 1: be missed. Yeah, I guess from the Europeans or side,

427
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Speaker 1: they've got to do something to protect themselves. And again,

428
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Speaker 1: I don't know what the back and falls be high

429
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Speaker 1: and all the legal stuff. I mean, I've got literally

430
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Speaker 1: you're probably asking the worst person. Well, I don't care.

431
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Speaker 1: I haven't read any articles about it. I'm not fuss

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Speaker 1: I just kind of watch what's going on and be like, oh,

433
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Speaker 1: he's moved over or whatever. And as I said, that's

434
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Speaker 1: their choice, that's their decision. I think Ryder Cup is

435
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Speaker 1: still going to be great, regardless who's captain, regardless who plays,

436
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Speaker 1: is still going to be great, and lives going to

437
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Speaker 1: be there. And I think let's be honest, Henry Stension,

438
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Speaker 1: he's got a decision to make there with probably the

439
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Speaker 1: way he had been playing the last year or so,

440
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Speaker 1: his age, and if he gets an offer again, I

441
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Speaker 1: don't know what you got offered, but it's very hard

442
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Speaker 1: to turn down, right, yeah, I mean you're going through

443
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: that right now, right You're you're a professional athlete. You know,

444
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Speaker 1: there's this big thing that you know, Tiger came out

445
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Speaker 1: at the Open Championship and said, you know, his issue

446
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Speaker 1: is he has an issue with the guaranteed money, the

447
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Speaker 1: fact that wears the incentive. But as an athlete now

448
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Speaker 1: and you're going through this, people can always say that,

449
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Speaker 1: you know, I just find it interesting that people say

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Speaker 1: that there's more to life than money. Either don't have money,

451
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Speaker 1: or they're like Tiger and Rory and they've got jets

452
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Speaker 1: with their initials on on the engines. Right, It's always

453
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Speaker 1: that opposite ends of the spectrum. People that say, listen,

454
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Speaker 1: you know, money isn't important to me and it's not

455
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Speaker 1: a part of my life. And then you've got people

456
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Speaker 1: that have some you know, Tiger Woods lives a five

457
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Speaker 1: iron from my house and in a compound just over

458
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Speaker 1: the sound here I mean it's it's it's like a

459
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Speaker 1: bat it's like a Bond villain house. I mean it's

460
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Speaker 1: like the bat cave. So you've got that end of

461
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Speaker 1: the spectrum saying yeah, that guaranteed money, where is the incentive?

462
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Speaker 1: But here's you're injured, You've got a family, you've got

463
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Speaker 1: bills to pay. I don't want to people realize that.

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Speaker 1: In in golf, the contracts aren't guaranteed. If you're not

465
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Speaker 1: playing golf, you're not making any money. There's no money

466
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Speaker 1: coming in. Yeah, it's not like it's not like you're

467
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Speaker 1: playing football or whatever it is. Um, you know, playing

468
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Speaker 1: the NFL and you've got contracts for X amount of

469
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Speaker 1: years and stuff like that. We don't have that. You've

470
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Speaker 1: got to turn up and perform every week. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: like you said, it's very difficult with someone. Yeah you're

472
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Speaker 1: Tigers rrries. Um, they're not playing for it for money.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. But I'm not Rory. I'm not Tiger Woods, right,

474
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna win eighty tournaments. It's just like, yeah,

475
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Speaker 1: and the reality of it, it's like turning up to

476
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Speaker 1: someone and go in, well, here's a lottery ticket, you

477
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Speaker 1: want it or not? In some of my my shoes.

478
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Speaker 1: Do you want to win the lot three? You can

479
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Speaker 1: take it. It's there, and you're going and hang on,

480
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Speaker 1: does that mean potentially then I could help whatever if

481
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Speaker 1: if my little one becomes talented it's something, or we

482
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Speaker 1: want to send it to a certain school. I have

483
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Speaker 1: the opportunity to do that by taking that lottery ticket.

484
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Speaker 1: And you're going, oh, well, if I take it, I can.

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Speaker 1: Now if I don't and I play three months and

486
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Speaker 1: my thumb goes again, I might not be able to

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Speaker 1: do that. And then that's where it becomes very difficult

488
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Speaker 1: in a decision, because I'd love to play the Rider Cup,

489
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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. And I think it if live

490
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Speaker 1: golfers can't play majors and stuff, people miss the majors

491
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Speaker 1: that the experiences I've had at the Open at US

492
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Speaker 1: Opens are incredible. But you've got to make a decision

493
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Speaker 1: and going, hang on, I could look after my family

494
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Speaker 1: here and that generation maybe the generation after you have. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you have to put it into perspective. Yeah, it's it's

496
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Speaker 1: crazy to me that you know, people say that, you know,

497
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Speaker 1: they don't play golf for money, but you, you, more

498
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Speaker 1: than anybody, realize that you came up on the European Tour.

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Speaker 1: When you're not on the p g A Tour, the

500
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Speaker 1: holy grail is to get to the p g A Tour, right,

501
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Speaker 1: the holy grail is to get a card on the

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Speaker 1: PGA Tour. And I think for a lot of players, yeah, obviously,

503
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Speaker 1: it means that you're gonna play against the best players.

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Speaker 1: It means that you're going to play on iconic golf

505
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Speaker 1: courses that you've seen in the past, that you watched

506
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Speaker 1: growing up. But you be more than anybody realized that

507
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Speaker 1: a ticket to the PGA Tour is very similar to

508
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Speaker 1: a winning lottery ticket because the opportunity that that avails

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Speaker 1: you if you play well, all of a sudden, you're

510
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Speaker 1: playing well in a tournament that's got a seven million

511
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Speaker 1: dollar purse versus a tournament in Hollands that's you know,

512
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Speaker 1: they're playing for two million. Yeah, I mean, you get

513
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: an opportunity to play in the Players Championship. Now, and

514
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: you look at the prize fund in the Players Championship,

515
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Speaker 1: the exemptions that that does I mean, the I mean,

516
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Speaker 1: I remember everybody was you know, the you you get

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Speaker 1: into all the w g c s, it's guaranteed money.

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Speaker 1: There's no cut. I mean we've been talking about that

519
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: for ten years on the players. Hey, you get into

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Speaker 1: all the invitation as you get into all the majors,

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Speaker 1: you get into all the w g cs. W g

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Speaker 1: CS is basically free money. I mean that's there are

523
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Speaker 1: tournaments where there are no cuts. I mean Tiger's tournaments,

524
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: twenty players, no cut at the end of the year. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean those are winning lottery tickets financially if you

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Speaker 1: get into those tournaments. Definitely. Yeah, it is is Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's exactly, and it's it's stepping stones in it in

528
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Speaker 1: people's careers. And I said it, you're telling me that,

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Speaker 1: say someone in a job is doing well and say

530
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Speaker 1: that they get offered ten times the amount of money

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Speaker 1: to go to another job to work a bit less.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm good, I'm good. I'm gonna stay where I'm at. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: do you know, do you know what I mean? He's

534
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Speaker 1: not going to think, well, I don't know about my family.

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Speaker 1: I'm not too sure what I should do, should like.

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Speaker 1: And that's the way I see it. What what I

537
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: don't get? What I don't get You might be able

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Speaker 1: to explain this more from for me, right, is if

539
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: they offered me like a crazy amount of money. Why

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Speaker 1: players are still trying to go back and play on

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Speaker 1: other tours. Yeah, I mean, I think from what I

542
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Speaker 1: can understand from that beef is you know, guys like

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Speaker 1: guys like Phil Um. You know, I've talked to Phil

544
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Speaker 1: about his stance. He's like, listen, I have life's time

545
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: exemption on the PGA tour um, you know, based off

546
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: of how many tournaments I won, and I had that

547
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Speaker 1: before I made this decision to go to Live Right.

548
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Speaker 1: And I think some of the guys that went back

549
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Speaker 1: and tried to, you know, get into the FedEx Cup,

550
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Speaker 1: you know, Taylor Gooch, hud Swofford who I talked to,

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Speaker 1: they said, listen, we qualified for this before we went

552
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Speaker 1: to Live Right, so we I think in their minds,

553
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Speaker 1: the argument is we should be able to play djson

554
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Speaker 1: this same boat. Brooks is in the same boat, Bryson's

555
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Speaker 1: in the ship. All the guys that have won majors

556
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Speaker 1: in the last five years, they're exempt in the majors,

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Speaker 1: so they're exempt for however many years, right. DJ's exempt

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Speaker 1: for you know, winning the Masters. Brooks's exempt for winning

559
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Speaker 1: the majors. He's won Bryson. Phil Mickelson is exempt for

560
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Speaker 1: I think the next three years, so I think they

561
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Speaker 1: feel like they should be able to play in the

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Speaker 1: stuff that they've qualified for. Yeah, that's fair. You know.

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Speaker 1: I talked to Patrick Reed after coming back from Wentworth,

564
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Speaker 1: and you know, he was like, listen, I feel like

565
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Speaker 1: I should be able to play on the European Tour

566
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: because I've supported the European Tour. You know, he's playing,

567
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Speaker 1: and you know he's playing in the French Open. There

568
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Speaker 1: aren't a lot of people playing in the French Open

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Speaker 1: this week. You know, they're the superstars are not playing there. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, there aren't a lot of Americans that are

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Speaker 1: taking the opportunity to ask for or at least to

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Speaker 1: go play in the French Open. Um. And you know,

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Speaker 1: Patrick feels like he has been a supporter of the

574
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Speaker 1: DP World Tour, not just a supporter of the big tournaments.

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Speaker 1: You and I both know. It's easy to go play Wentworth,

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Speaker 1: It's easy to go play Abu Dhabi, Dubai Dubai. At

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Speaker 1: the end of the year, if you're an American player

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Speaker 1: and you're a superstars, easy to go play the BMW

579
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Speaker 1: UM in Germany because there's a BMW's jet taking players

580
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Speaker 1: from the US Open, and you're hopping on there and

581
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: you're getting paid to go do it. Um. I also

582
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Speaker 1: think it's interesting that it's always been okay for the

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Speaker 1: super stars to get paid to play overseas, and now

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden that players are getting paid to

585
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: play there seems to be an issue. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Rory McElroy should ever get any grief

587
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: from anybody about being I think you should get paid

588
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: to play wherever he plays. He's that good a player.

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00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he is such a great player. He's

590
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Speaker 1: done so many great things. If you want him at

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Speaker 1: your tournament, I don't have a problem with a tournament

592
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Speaker 1: doing whatever they have to do to get him to

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Speaker 1: play in the tournament. I don't. I don't know fast

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Speaker 1: he's done it. You're talking about one of golf, one

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00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: of the golf grades, and um, that doesn't bother me. Yeah,

596
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Speaker 1: if he's at so him, what gets paid to player

597
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: has never bothered me at all. Um. I think the

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Speaker 1: way he has played this year beef with everything that

599
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: you know, he's put on his shoulders that the PGA

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00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: Tour has put on his shoulders. He has effectively been

601
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Speaker 1: the the spokesperson for the p g A Tour, and

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00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: I think the way he has played this year, the

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00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: golf that he has produced, um, when you're around him.

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Speaker 1: I was around him a little bit. We played a

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Speaker 1: practice round with him at the Open Championship. He played

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Speaker 1: with DJ. You can tell it's a weight on his shoulders.

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Speaker 1: Have you been surprised how well he's been able to

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Speaker 1: perform with all of the things that that that he's

609
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Speaker 1: had to do this year. Yes, And though I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's had a head of a lot and the way

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Speaker 1: he's dealt with it, um, I think, yeah, it must

612
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: be really tough. But when you look at how good

613
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Speaker 1: he is as well, I'm not surprised as well, because

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00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: he's just such an incredible player. I mean, it is

615
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Speaker 1: it is crazy how good Rory is. I mean, and

616
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Speaker 1: when he is in full flow, I mean it is

617
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: so much fun to watch. You know, that run that

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Speaker 1: he made at at at the FedEx Cup this year,

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Speaker 1: at the Tour Championship, I mean you could kind of

620
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Speaker 1: see on the front nine that he started to come.

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Speaker 1: He's one of those players, wouldn't you say, beef that

622
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Speaker 1: when Rory kind of gets on a roll. You kind

623
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: of sit back at the popcorn and say this is

624
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Speaker 1: this is going to be fun to watch because it's

625
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 1: not always say it like if you put him around

626
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: the US Open course or a really tough golf course,

627
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: if he's on, he's going to shoot a number around there,

628
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 1: that that's how good he is. And now if someone

629
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: else's playing, yeah, we can go around golf course and

630
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: shoot eight nine ted under around golf courses where a

631
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Speaker 1: lot of people are and it's out there, but it's

632
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: the ones where it's not. And when he's on, he

633
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: could set any golf course and make it look easy.

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Speaker 1: I think that's where I watch it and think sometimes

635
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Speaker 1: like oh my god, he shot that score around that

636
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: course or whatever it is, and it will hit shots

637
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: that other people can't necessarily hit. I mean the way

638
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: he I mean, you've played with him some of the times.

639
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: When you got with Roaring, you you bust to drive

640
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: and you say, all right, I hit that pretty good,

641
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: and then he's got the freewheel kind of high bomb

642
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: nuke draw on it and he flies you by sixty.

643
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: It's nuts. We played nine holes and over there and

644
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and yeah, just he hit

645
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: a couple and I was, oh my god, I was like,

646
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: how far is that going? And then even when he

647
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: was hitting sort of like five ions, what impressed me

648
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: most is just how high he hits it as well,

649
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: hit a couple of sort of like mid I and

650
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: five ions, and yeah, the height on it, and you

651
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: think you're like, well, yeah, if you're playing into a

652
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: really firm green or something like that, you need to

653
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: get it to stop quick. He's got a slight advantage

654
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 1: more than me. I think. One of the other things

655
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: with all of this live PGA Tour drama, um, it's

656
00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: pissed me off because it's overshadowed some unbelievable golf this year, right.

657
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,959
Speaker 1: I mean I thought Matt Fitzpatrick, I mean you've played

658
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: a lot of golf with Matt. Um. I thought the

659
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 1: way Fittigue one that us open um the golf was unbelievable.

660
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: He and the gulf that he and Will's allotors were

661
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: producing down the stretch, Um, it was. It was amazing.

662
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: I think what Scotty Scheffler has done this year. I mean,

663
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: you know, you burst, you know, you burst onto the scene.

664
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: You got on a little bit of a run, you

665
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: know what that feelings like. But to do what Scotty

666
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: Scheffler has done and win majors, have chances to win

667
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: every week. I mean the golf this year has just

668
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: been unbelievable. Yeah, yeah, well Scotty's done this year has

669
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: been insane. And then like to to win one and

670
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: then to turn around he taught him a favorite and

671
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: win that as as well. I think, Yeah, I was

672
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: saying about his character and like, yeah, it is the

673
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: main the way it goes about himself. He said he

674
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: looks who like children in control, and you're like, I

675
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: look at him, I think like I was, like, I

676
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: wish I had some of that. I wish I could

677
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: take like that what he had there and that calmness.

678
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: That would be one of the things I'd look at

679
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: and be like if I could do if I was

680
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: put back in that position. There's there's a difference in

681
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: some of it, and like why everyone is rooting for you.

682
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: You're not putting too much pressure on yourself and he's

683
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: just going out and doing what he does and playing

684
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's been it's been amazing. Can Open him

685
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: and Rory's battle at the Open that there's been so

686
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: much good golf. Man, So let's take a short break

687
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: and we will be back right after this. All right,

688
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: let's get back to the interview. You mentioned that when

689
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: you're playing good and you know that you're playing good,

690
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: I'm always fascinated because I'm on the other side of it. Right.

691
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 1: My job is to try and help players improve, play well,

692
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: reach their potential. But when you are on runs beef

693
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: and you know that you've you're playing good, you know

694
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: that your swing is in in good shape, you're hitting

695
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: the shots that you want, You're able to control the

696
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: shape the way that you want. Is it hard to,

697
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: like you said, to to do what Scotty Shuffler has done,

698
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: which is have a calmness about you when you're in

699
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: that moment, because I would imagine it's really hard to

700
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: not put pressure on yourself because you know you are

701
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: playing well. Yeah, I think it's keeping really grounded. I

702
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: think that's the key. And like he said, like some

703
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: of the interviewer has said, and how grounded he is.

704
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: I think that's so key because yeah, he's playing good

705
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: golf and he's like, well, nothing changes, I'm playing great golf.

706
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep playing great golf. If I don't

707
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: play too great, I'm still the same Scotty Cheffler. It

708
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, you know. And I think I think that

709
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: is keeping grounded. And where I blew up, I was like,

710
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: oh my god, it was like a deer in headlights.

711
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fund is going on here?

712
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: This is insane? Like why is everyone shouting at me?

713
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: And stuff like that? And I just couldn't sort of

714
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: like handle it because I didn't know what was going on.

715
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: I had no idea what was going on. And like,

716
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: you watch him and he's just like it could be

717
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: sort of playing with his mates almost he walks around

718
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: and it looks it looks like he's been doing that

719
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: for about their years. Do you think there is a

720
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: solution in all of this? From a dp World standpoint,

721
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: from a PGA tour standpoint, from a live standpoint, do

722
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: you think where do you see this in your opinion

723
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: a year from now, two years from now? Do you

724
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: think it's the camps are the camps? There's one side

725
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: over here and there's one side over there, and or

726
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: do you see that cooler heads will prevail and a

727
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: solution so that we don't have this divide um. Do

728
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: you see that happening currently? Not at the moment. Do

729
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: you know what I would love to see? You know,

730
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: do you ever see the cricket the i p L,

731
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: the Indian Premier League. I would love to have seen

732
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: something like that. So like the PGA DP to or

733
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: play until August or whatever it is, end of July August,

734
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: that's their season, right and then you have lived series,

735
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: but it goes into a draft for the forty eight

736
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: players every season, so you get people who've had like

737
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: great years and then they get into this big bonus

738
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: thing and then they played two three months of live

739
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: tournaments that are amped up and team events and stuff

740
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: like that, and you could potentially have the teams with

741
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: the draft picking the players. I think I'd sit there

742
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: and I'd watch the draft to be honest and be

743
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: more excited. Who's going to pick him in this team?

744
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: And you would have like the twelve captains and they

745
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 1: can have say who they want to play in their

746
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: team and see what budget how much they you could

747
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: pay for players every year, And I think that that

748
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: could have been so much fun and a massive bonus,

749
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: and then everyone wins because every wants still playing both

750
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: tours and then everyone's still trying to hunt to get

751
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: into the LIFT Series after the season finished. Yeah, I

752
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: mean I think there are huge opportunities, um, and I

753
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: think that hopefully cooler heads will prevail. Do you still

754
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: think that, um the money aspect um, the guaranteed money aspect,

755
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: the prize money aspect um. I I think I think

756
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: it's hilarious where there's you know, there's players going Yeah.

757
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: I mean you know, if you want, if you're one

758
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: of those players, then yeah, I mean, you know, maybe

759
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: lives for you. I'm thinking, isn't everybody one of those players?

760
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: Isn't everybody a kind of player that wants to to

761
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: to make money and and and yeah, winning tournaments is great,

762
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 1: but part of winning tournaments is you know you're gonna

763
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: win a lot of money. Yeah. Again, it's people's choice, right,

764
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: People got a choice. And that's where I think I'll

765
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: come a bit unstuck about it. And it was so

766
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: sort of one sided, and as I hang on, people

767
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: got choice there. It's not like, yeah, it's not like

768
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: nothing crazy is happening, like all the other sports, go

769
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: get Saudi fund a European Tour dptor playing in Saudi

770
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: whatever three years ago. So it's like, you can't call

771
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: it bad that it's Saudi backed in some respects because

772
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: Formula one goes there, the boxing's being there, whatever it is.

773
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: And I think the golf has got made to look

774
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: really bad. But it's people's choice. People have a choice.

775
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: They're not doing anything bad. It's people's choice if they

776
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: want to go and play it. And I think it

777
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: should be as simple as that. It shouldn't get I

778
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: don't think it should have been made as bad that

779
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: people have gone to play. There are a lot of

780
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: people that think, UM, one of the big losers in

781
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: all of this PGA Tour versus Live battle is the

782
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 1: DP World Tour, the European Tour, that that they are

783
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: not what maybe they once work um as as a

784
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: member of the DP World Tour. I mean it's where

785
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: you made your home. UM. I know you're you. You

786
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: have a lot of um allegiances to the tour that

787
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: gave you a start. Um, Where does the DP World

788
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 1: Tour come out in all of this in a year? Car,

789
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. Only time will tell. UM, only time

790
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: will tell. Obviously they've done that they would PGA Tour

791
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: and it's the top ten players, isn't it Basically we'll

792
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: get a PGA Tour card I mean for someone else. So,

793
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: I mean that's huge incentive. That's a huge that's a

794
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: massive in setting for me and for a lot of players.

795
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: You can't be looking at it from a player point

796
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: of view, going the highlight the bigger picture, the tour

797
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 1: necessarily almost being a feed at all to the PGA

798
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: doesn't look good. But for the players, you're thinking, hang

799
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: on it. I've got a good chance of getting over

800
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: to the PGA Tour as well. So I think from

801
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: a player point of view, I think we should be

802
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: pretty happy about it in some sense. But from where

803
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: the tour is going and being almost controlled a bit

804
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: more by the PGA Tour, that's probably not the best thing,

805
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: is it. Yeah. I mean, so if you've got advice

806
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: to give, if you could sit with Keith Pelly for

807
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: ten minutes and say, Pelly, this is what I see things.

808
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: You know, this is kind of my opinion, and I'm

809
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: gonna give you my opinion on what I think you

810
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: should do. Um, what would be some advice that you

811
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 1: would give so that the dp World Tour stays relevant

812
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: and and keeps good players because my worry, Like you said,

813
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: if you're a player, yeah, you're gonna want to get

814
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: to the PGA Tour. You're gonna want to be one

815
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: of those ten guys that goes. But also every year

816
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: the ten best players are leaving your tour. Yeah that

817
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: the this is as a set for a player point

818
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: of view, it's good. From uh the EP to point,

819
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: I don't think it's great. Um. I've always said, well,

820
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: I've seen both sides of it, and you'll know it

821
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: as well. A lot of like the guys who are

822
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: always John Rams, um Fitzpatrick's people like that West, whatever

823
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: the extents, and obviously they have a minimum amount of events,

824
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 1: which is four events because they're doing the players favor

825
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: for Ryder Cup. Yeah. I mean to me, that's the

826
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: crazy thing about all of this is you know this

827
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: idea of you know, the live guys being bad, but

828
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, to get more guys part

829
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: of the europe to get the John Rams of the

830
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: world who are going to play their golf on the

831
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: PGA Tour. I mean, you've got to play four European

832
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 1: Tour events and w G w g C S count

833
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: Major's count and then you've got to maybe come over

834
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 1: and play one the other, and you're probably gonna come play.

835
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: You know. Now that Scottish Opens PGA Tour event and

836
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: co sanctioned, you can come over and do that. And

837
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: it's not like, you know, Patrick Reid. You know, Patrick

838
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: Read played a schedule. He played a lot of tournaments

839
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: in Europe um and not just the big ones, not

840
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: just the easy ones. I mean I think it's easy.

841
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I love Billy Hoe, He's a hell

842
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 1: of a player. But Billy has played what like six

843
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: European Tour events, and it's not like he played back

844
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: to back. He didn't play Czechoslovakia and Holland back to

845
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: back weeks, right, I mean the guys that have historically

846
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: gone over from the PGA Tour to the European Tour.

847
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't come up with a more definable

848
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: cherry picking than Abu Dhabi, Dubai, China, HSBC, maybe went

849
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: Worth and then Scottish Open. I mean, those are those

850
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: are the big ones. Yeah. See, yeah, I've seen both

851
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: sides of it, and I just think sometimes they could

852
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: look after the core of the players a bit better

853
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: in some sense. So the guys who playing twenty five events,

854
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: twenty events year in year out. Other guys are filling

855
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: the fields every week, and yeah, obviously, and all of

856
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 1: a sudden some will get shutted out, like the Scottish Open,

857
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: which I didn't think was great. They've played, we got

858
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: asked to play all these tournaments through COVID and and

859
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden in one of the biggest

860
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: events in Europe. And I just think I need to

861
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: be wary of like looking after the players, the bigger

862
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: core of players, rather than the superstars as well. Sometimes

863
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: I think that sometimes the balance is way off. And

864
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: yes they're superstars, Yes they do people people want to see,

865
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: but these are the guys that also have kept the

866
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: toll going as well in some sense, yeah, for sure,

867
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: And I think it is I think one of the

868
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 1: things to come out of all of this debate between

869
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: the tour and the PGA Tour and Live is you know,

870
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 1: like you said, everybody wants to play on the PGA Tour.

871
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 1: And I don't fault anybody that plays golf on any tour.

872
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: Um if somebody wants to pay you, I mean, if

873
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: if Abu Dhabi, Dubai, China, whoever, want to pay you

874
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: to come. You're not getting paid if you're a hundred

875
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: and sixty on the money list, You're you're not getting

876
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: paid to go play other places if you're not. I

877
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: actually believe that the only way you get paid to

878
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: play for money is you earn that right through your play.

879
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: You can't be a rank and file guy that barely

880
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: keeps his card every year, that really never contends in

881
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: big tournaments, doesn't win big tournaments. You're not going to

882
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: get an offer to go play for money because you

883
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 1: haven't earned that offer. They're there for a reason. The players,

884
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: they're superstars, are there, and they're called superstars because the

885
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: ones that are playing outrageously incredible golf week in week out,

886
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: competing um winning mobile times every year. And I think,

887
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: and I think, Beef, you know more than anybody, having

888
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: played both in Europe and in the States, Like any

889
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: player that would from any tour that isn't you know,

890
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: whether they're from Europe, Asia, South Africa, any international player

891
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: that qualifies and gets full status on the PGA Tour,

892
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 1: somebody that's done that, you look at them and go

893
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: make congrats. Man. That's that's that's life changing. You've now

894
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: got an opportunity if you play well, to to change

895
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: the trajectory of your life because you're basically I mean

896
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: it's a little bit like you're a great striker, you know,

897
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: in at Celtic Arrangers and then you go play, you

898
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: get an opportunity to start at Arsenal or Chelsea or

899
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: Man you and you go, now, now, I'm just gonna

900
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: stay up here in Scotland. And you know I'm not

901
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: gonna be We're not in the Champions League this year,

902
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: but I'm just gonna I'm gonna stay up here, you know,

903
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: as as as a football, or if you get an

904
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: opportunity to go play in England for a big club,

905
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: if you get an opportunity to go to Spain or

906
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: Italy and play for one of the Giants as a

907
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: football or you would look at somebody else on your

908
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 1: team and go, we we hate losing you, but mate,

909
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: you've got to go real Madrid wants you, yeah, go

910
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: What else? What else can you say? And that's what

911
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: I said about the guy has gone over to live.

912
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: It's like fair play, like no, likee, I don't have

913
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 1: an issue with it. Fair play You've got and made

914
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: that choice. What what what I've said is. I said

915
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: it the other day and it was like, I don't

916
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: think if you ask me if massive sums of money

917
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: like that, I'm playing and live offence. I said, like,

918
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: obviously you've got the guys that you explained, and I

919
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: didn't really realize that obviously. Yeah, they've earned the right

920
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: to play whatever events through the past that they want

921
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: to play, because I would never have that. And I

922
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: was like, I wouldn't take anything thoughts of court. I'd

923
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: be like, just fire up the barbecue a bit more

924
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: man hanging out. But yeah, that that made a little

925
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: more sense thince you explain that. But east of their

926
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: own man, I'm not fussed you mentioned barbecue. Um through

927
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: your injury. Um, we've got a beef. We've got a

928
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: podcast now beefs Golf Club. And one of the things

929
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 1: that I'm super excited about YouTube a barbecue channel. I mean, obviously,

930
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: if you're gonna have a name nicknamed like the Beef,

931
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: I mean, what talk to me about talking to me

932
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 1: about the grill skills, I mean, and tell me about it. Oh, man,

933
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: I just love it. I absolutely love it. And where

934
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 1: we travel a lot and I'm always looking for restaurants

935
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: where everywhere they always cooked over fire. And I've been

936
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: lucky enough to meet, yeah, a lot of good chefs,

937
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 1: and I was picking it or constantly picking their brains.

938
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,479
Speaker 1: How would you cook that, How would you cook that cat?

939
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: What would you do with that? And then I was like,

940
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: hang on, I was like, we need to make a

941
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: barbecue ce series here because I can't be the only

942
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: person question how to cook this stuff. And I was

943
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: like right, I was like, We've got the time, and

944
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: I was like, let's just do it. Let's go for it. So, yeah,

945
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: create a little series called Barbecue Better with Beef, and

946
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 1: then yeah, you'll learn how to cook loads of different

947
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: stuff from paila to big pork chops, big steaks, American

948
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: style Texas barbecue, um, everything, man. And I think that's

949
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: the idea, is to have a real big variety and

950
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: you could basically cook anything over fire. Some of the

951
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: restaurants I've been to some of the best things I've eaten, Honestly,

952
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: some of the edge some of the salads that they've

953
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,959
Speaker 1: cooked over fire just changes the taste. And I've tried

954
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: it a few times. I've messed them up a few times. Um,

955
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: but when you get it right, there's nothing better. Man,

956
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: There's nothing better than fire cooked food. There's just nothing better.

957
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: Have you watched um uh Netflix Chef's Table, the first series,

958
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: the guy in um, what's that guy? The guy in

959
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: Argentina that's cooking all the stuff who wears the beret.

960
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: I mean I watched that episode. I watched that episode.

961
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: I follow him on Instagram and I watched that and

962
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm literally I'm like my dog, I'm salivating. There is

963
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: something about um, you know, traveling in the US. You

964
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: go to Memphis, you go to the South, you go

965
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: to Texas, I mean you get barbecue. So I mean

966
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: every year in Houston, in Dallas there's that day on

967
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: the range where they've got the barbecue smoker on the range.

968
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: I mean, guys are lining up and and and they

969
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 1: haven't even started, um serving. It's unbelievable. That was Yeah,

970
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: that was my biggest problem plan in America. That was

971
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 1: the biggest problem. Everywhere. Get to a different set in

972
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: a blur a right, where can we go and find

973
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: some more barbecue? Um yeah, I mean yeah, some of

974
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: the food I there's just incredible. And again that's enough.

975
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: That's another bit of motivation for me to get back

976
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: as well, because as so many more barbecue places I

977
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: need to try. What, um, what's your favorite? Um, I

978
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: mean you and you've gotta you've gotta find a way

979
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: to get Jimmy Walker. Um, you do need to get

980
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: hooked up because I mean, you talk about somebody that's

981
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: you know, deep deep, deep down the rabbit hole of grilling.

982
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got this new contraption. Have you seen

983
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: that thing on his Instagram where it's like a new

984
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: grill where the where the thing goes up and down.

985
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: I mean it's unbelievable. I mean, yeah, you gotta read.

986
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: You gotta reach out to him and see if you

987
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: can get one. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I follow Instagram and

988
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: yeah I'm constantly watching what he's doing and stuff like

989
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: that and any ideas, but yeah, this stuff looks wicked, man. Um.

990
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: The podcast Beefs Clubhouse, talk to me about that. Yeah,

991
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: biggest golf club. It's it's well basically creating the world's

992
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: greatest golf club. Man. Everyone's welcome and every week we're

993
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: just gonna be chatting about different topics to do with golf.

994
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: So it could be literally anything from clothes, bunkers, putting

995
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: whatever it is and just basically, you know how I

996
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: am a lighthearted take on on golf and just want

997
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: everyone to come and listen and join the golf club

998
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: man and let's have a laugh. Are you excited about

999
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: these things that you're able to do that? You're obviously

1000
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: passionate about that right now, even though you are injured.

1001
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 1: You'd much rather be playing golf. But it gives you

1002
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: another avenue of of an outlet for yourself mentally, for

1003
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: your creativity and for people. Yeah, I mean, I think

1004
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: people kind of have an idea of what you're like

1005
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: on the golf course and that persona, but obviously through

1006
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: social media in two you can you can point the

1007
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: lens back at yourself and people get kind of a

1008
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 1: deep dive into what you're all about. I could have

1009
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: sat here for a year not doing anything. I could

1010
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 1: have said for like a whole season, and I was like, Wow,

1011
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: we've got the time. It's something I want to do,

1012
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: and I like to the things that involve everyone. You know,

1013
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: it's a barbecue in and if we can bring a

1014
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: series where people can come and learn how to barbecue

1015
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: things and try different recipes, try something they've necessarily not

1016
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: necessarily cooked um, why not? Yeah, why not share it?

1017
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,439
Speaker 1: Same as podcast. It's like, look, let's share golf. Let's

1018
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: have a laugh together. Like, show me some of the

1019
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: best worst shots that you guys have hit, show me

1020
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 1: some of the funniest clothes you've seen people wear, or whatever.

1021
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 1: I'll show you. I'll tell you some of the worst

1022
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: shots I've hit, best shots I've hit, whatever. And it's

1023
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: like everyone's welcome. Everyone's gonna have some funny takes on

1024
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 1: golf and and good and bad. But it's like, let's

1025
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: talk about it together. I had a I had a player.

1026
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: I think it was last year or maybe within the

1027
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: last two years. I posted on Instagram young kids. You

1028
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: know the kid. You know, we've got his own track. Man. Um,

1029
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: it's got the mural blades. You know, he's got the

1030
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollar Scotty Cameron Potter, he's got the he's

1031
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: got the tour head from Tailor made. But it's got

1032
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: some you know, ballistic xylon shaft and everything this guy's got.

1033
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: You know, he's got the fifteen thou dollar golf back.

1034
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: And this kid's trying to play. Look really nice kid,

1035
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: you know, not on any tour and stuff, but I

1036
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: mean his his his his equipment costs more than some

1037
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: people's car. So he's got these, you know, murdered out

1038
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: Mura blades and everything. It's got iron covers, beef on

1039
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: all his clubs, iron covers with the numbers and the

1040
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: p I'm like, your your clubs cost five grand. You've

1041
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: got iron covers on him. He's like, yeah, I've got

1042
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: to take care of him. Like no, no, this is like,

1043
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: this is like you can't drive up, you can't have

1044
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: a Ferrari and then you know, put a cover over it, right,

1045
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: you gotta let that out. You just keep quiet until

1046
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: he hits a little stone in a fair way. Bunker chips,

1047
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: that's seven chips, the seven nine them head covers will

1048
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: be off. Oh it's one of the worst. Um. Lastly,

1049
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: when do we assue back on the golf course. We've

1050
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: gotta get you back on the golf course. I don't

1051
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: have an answer, man, um I've got no idea, honestly,

1052
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: no idea. I'm hoping sooner and later, um, as I said,

1053
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to try it everything I can and when

1054
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: when the time's right, the time will be right. But

1055
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: I've got no answers, and I just have to be patient,

1056
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: but I'll be back and like I said, I've got

1057
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: a lot of years left and I'm hungry. And my goal,

1058
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: my goal this year, I had one goal and that

1059
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: was to make Ryder Cup team. That that was the goal.

1060
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: And now that's still possible if I get fit. I've

1061
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: still got a lot of time left. If I can

1062
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: get fit and play a whole season next season, I

1063
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: still believe I can do it. I still believe I

1064
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: can win tournaments. As long as that fires there, I'm

1065
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: still going to keep going. So I'll find a way

1066
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: to get back out on the golf course. I don't

1067
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:53,919
Speaker 1: know when that would be, but I'll be back out

1068
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: there and I'll still be yeah, as I said, trying

1069
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: to win tournaments, trying to get over to the States,

1070
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: and trying to play right the Cups. So yeah, that's

1071
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: that's my ambition. Still. Well, we're all pulling for you.

1072
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: We want you to get healthy and silver lining your

1073
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: football team. I mean, talk to me, I mean, how

1074
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: optimistic are I know it's early days, but I mean

1075
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: you've got to feel like you're in You're in a

1076
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: good spot. You know what I said about keeping grounded earlier.

1077
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: It's the same thing that just gotta steak are man.

1078
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: The start, they've had some incredible and like what the

1079
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: manager's done has been amazing. Um yeah, he's basically swap

1080
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,439
Speaker 1: the whole team out in a couple of seasons. There's

1081
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: there's not many players left that were there when he

1082
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: first come and it's not that's not easy to do, man.

1083
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: So look, I think I think everyone's turned their head

1084
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: and all the fans Arsenal were in a funny place.

1085
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: All the fans were in a miserable place, and he's

1086
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: really changed the atmosphere of it at the moment. Uh

1087
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: so yeah, let's just have fun, man, see where they go.

1088
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 1: But it's going to be I think near an import

1089
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: of all. Let's beat man say, let's be honest, Well,

1090
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: just just pump the brakes, manage the expectations. Don't get

1091
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: too far ahead of yourself. Um, look after yourself, mate,

1092
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: and uh everybody listening, we wish you the best and

1093
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: then and hope we see you back. Um we want

1094
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: to continue to see you doing the barbecue series, but

1095
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: um we want to see you making uh birdies and

1096
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: eagles and and having chances to win golf tournaments made

1097
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: cheers Man, so that was Beef well to thank him

1098
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: for coming on, and I'm I'm definitely rooting for that kid. UM.

1099
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: Hope he gets healthy and hopefully we can see him

1100
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: back playing golf sometime very very soon. So let's get

1101
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: two questions, UM, how do you deal with expectation management

1102
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,919
Speaker 1: when you're teaching listen as an instructor, as a coach.

1103
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things that we're always

1104
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: trying to do with players is manage their expectations. I've

1105
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: a lot of recreational golfers have sometimes really really misguided

1106
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: UM goals, misunderstandings of their games. So I think your

1107
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: job as an instructor is to is to help your

1108
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: players manage their expectations because I think golfers sometimes they

1109
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: get sidetracked. They think they should be better than they

1110
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: need to be. And I think one of the things

1111
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: that the best players in the world do is is

1112
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: manage their expectations. They know sometimes that shooting you know,

1113
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: two three under UM without their best stuff is a

1114
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: really good score. And I think the average UM recreational

1115
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: golfers is way way too hard on themselves. UM. And

1116
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: I think if if golfers in general can manage their

1117
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: expectations better then UM, I definitely think they would score

1118
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 1: better for sure. UM. There's another question, best fundamentals to

1119
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: work on in the golf swing. Listen, I think there's

1120
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: so much information out there with regards to golf instruction now,

1121
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: and I think, UM, over the course of a year,

1122
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: you know, sive days working with players that are playing

1123
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: competitively and playing on whatever tour they're playing around the world,

1124
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: I think people would be surprised at how much the

1125
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 1: fundamentals massively affect the rest of the game. UM. Alignment,

1126
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: ball position, Uh, you know, set up stuff, all stuff

1127
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: that happens before you hit the golf ball. And I

1128
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: think in two a lot of times that stuff just

1129
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: goes completely um under the radar. You don't think about

1130
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: where you're aiming, you don't think about where the ball

1131
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: position is, you don't think about what your posture is,

1132
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: and those things dramatically affect the dynamic movement pattern that

1133
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: you're going to have in your golf swing on how

1134
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: the golf club is going to be swung. Um. If

1135
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 1: the ball position gets too far back at the all

1136
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: position gets too far forward, if you're too far too close,

1137
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: if for whatever shape you're trying to hit where you're

1138
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: aiming is is a huge part of this. So UM,

1139
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: I think if you're gonna work on things in your

1140
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: golf swing, the fundamentals they don't change. UM. Grip stance, posture,

1141
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: alignment is massive. And if you can get into the

1142
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: same set up every time, if you can have the

1143
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: same ball position, distance from the golf ball posture, if

1144
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: that can kind of become part of yours d n

1145
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: A as a player. I think that is a fantastic

1146
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: way to start because a lot of times I think

1147
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: players are working on all this stuff that they think

1148
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: is super super fancy UM, and really, at the end

1149
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: of the day, basic fundamentals UM doesn't take any athletic

1150
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: ability or golf ability to set up to a golf

1151
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: ball with the right ball position, posture, and alignment. So fundamentals,

1152
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: regardless of what level you're at, still have a massive,

1153
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: massive effect on your ability to hit the golf ball. Uh.

1154
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 1: So I want to thank everybody for listening. UM. We've

1155
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: got some great episodes. If you haven't gone back and

1156
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: check them out, please do. If you have people that

1157
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: are interested in golf. UM I like to listen and

1158
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: and and hear stories about golf, tell them about the podcast.

1159
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: The more people we get listening, the better, and um,

1160
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: we're excited. We're gonna have some good guests coming up

1161
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: in the coming weeks. Some of a Bich comes to

1162
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: you every Wednesday. We will see you next week.