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Speaker 1: It's Tuesday here on your Second Date Update podcast, which

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Speaker 1: means you get a little awkward, all right, Yes, and

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Speaker 1: today's is pretty special because there is I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you saw it, but like a viral TikTok issue

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Speaker 1: with the kid's birthday party.

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Speaker 2: Where they all in it in tears.

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Speaker 1: One of the parents is actually on the phone with

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Speaker 1: us to deal with. So it's gonna be fun. But

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Speaker 1: before we get to it, I just got to say,

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Speaker 2: Enjoy some awkwardness. It's your awkward Tuesday phone call.

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Speaker 3: One of the most dramatic calls we've had all year,

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Speaker 3: and it all started with a weird disagreement at a

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Speaker 3: Build a Bear workshop.

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Speaker 2: Where all big disagreements happened.

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Speaker 3: Of course, gotten it, Oh yeah. Children were in tears,

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Speaker 3: their parents were upset, and even went viral on TikTok.

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Speaker 3: And now one father's decided it's time to get justice

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Speaker 3: and confront the person who started the drama. You're gonna

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Speaker 3: hear what went down at Build a Bear in your

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Speaker 3: brand new awkward big teas right, the most awkward Tuesday

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Speaker 3: phone call coming up right after this. It's awkward, It's Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: It's awkward Tuesday phone call. Different radio shows excel at

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Speaker 3: different types of content. Some shows are really good with

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Speaker 3: health and wellness tips. Other ones don't judge the other shows.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. Other ones focus more on true crime stories.

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Speaker 3: But today we're honing in on our wheelhouse children's birthday

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Speaker 3: party drama. That's where we thrive. And I bring it

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Speaker 3: up because there's a story that's actually been going viral

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Speaker 3: on TikTok lately. I'm not sure if you guys have

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Speaker 3: heard about it yet, but one of the people who

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Speaker 3: was directly involved reached out to us saying, hey, I

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Speaker 3: could really really use your help.

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Speaker 2: Interesting that children's birthdays aren't in my algorithm.

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Speaker 3: Jeffrey, Yeah, I don't know why. Let's talk to him though.

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Speaker 3: His name is Richard. Richard, welcome to the Showy.

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Speaker 1: You doing apparently better than you if you're viral on

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Speaker 1: TikTok for an issue.

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Speaker 4: Well, okay, I'm not the one viral, but my daughter

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Speaker 4: was a part of it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, so's not as good as your daughter. Yeah, not

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Speaker 3: as bad as your daughter. Yeah, but it's not a

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Speaker 3: good slag.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: We shouldn't be slamming our listeners as soon as they

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Speaker 3: ask us for help. Sorry about that, Richard, tell us,

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Speaker 3: what's going on? You were involved with this birthday drama?

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Speaker 4: How well, my daughter's seven years old and she was

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Speaker 4: invited to this birthday party. So basically I had to

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Speaker 4: And what I understood that the plan was they were

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Speaker 4: then the group was going to head over to build

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Speaker 3: Just a bunch of seven year olds freely figuring it out.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's like a build a bear party the birthday

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Speaker 1: Don't you love that age when your kids finally get

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Speaker 1: to the drop off parties you don't have to stay

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a great I'll be back in a

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Speaker 4: few hours. It's perfect.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, sounds sounds like a good plan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I go home and I come back in a

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Speaker 2: She's crying?

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Speaker 3: Oh, no, pretty standard for post seven year old birthday party.

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Speaker 2: Though there's always one kid at the party. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean it stops that it's yours. I get it.

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Speaker 4: Well, it was more than my kid, it was other

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Speaker 4: kids too. They were all upset.

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Speaker 5: Oh and wow, what the heck happened? Did Jeff show

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Speaker 3: Of the party?

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Speaker 3: Then what happened?

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Speaker 4: So I got her in the car and asked what happened?

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Speaker 4: She said that the mom forced all the girls to

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Speaker 3: No way, wait?

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Speaker 1: What like they went to a party and they made

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Speaker 1: the birthday girl.

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Speaker 3: New that's so rude.

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Speaker 5: I'm not even involved in the bear world or children's world,

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Speaker 5: and I want to fight everyone right now.

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Speaker 1: Why would the little birthday girl needs eleven stuffed animals?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 2: Why would the mom do that?

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Speaker 4: That's what I was asked to myself. So I contacted

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Speaker 4: another mom who was involved, and she she couldn't believe

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Speaker 4: it either. She was really upset. Wow.

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Speaker 5: See, okay, so this is like the normal reaction.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's agreed blindsided all of the parents, the children there obviously.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what was the reason? Did you ever get

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Speaker 2: to the bottom of that?

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Speaker 4: Well? What she said was that the mom wanted each

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Speaker 4: girl to build a bear so that like her daughter

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Speaker 4: would remember each one of them by the bear that

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Speaker 3: Was that was that laid out in like the invitation

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Speaker 4: No, no, my daughter thought she was getting the bear

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Speaker 4: to bring home. I mean, okay, we already gave the gift.

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Speaker 2: That is so weird. Okay, I mean you didn't pay

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Speaker 3: Paid for that question expensive?

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Speaker 2: The birthday mom paid for everybody to.

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Speaker 4: Make these Yeah, she did pay for the bill of

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Speaker 3: Well, the birthday mom paid for the cake too, I'm

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Speaker 3: assuming and she gave someone that away, so at least

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Speaker 5: Okay, look, let me play advocate really quick. Think about

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Speaker 5: it from the birthday girl, every one of those bears.

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Speaker 5: Every night she goes to bed, it's like, this is

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Speaker 5: And so that's just wanting to throw that out there.

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Speaker 2: But how is a mother? Could you see all these

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Speaker 2: children crying? I like, this is the choice. This is

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Speaker 2: the choice I'm making.

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying I see.

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Speaker 4: Where maybe I think exactly what Brook thinks. All these

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Speaker 4: girls had to stand in wine, they to make each bear,

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Speaker 4: and then they were all the bears were ripped away

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Speaker 5: Crying line of kids like here, it's so ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So I have the lady's number. I want

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Speaker 3: An we want to call the mom of the birthday

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to contact her and say it's not right,

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Speaker 4: it's not okay, okay, give you a bear back?

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Speaker 2: I mean, is that what you're going to ask for

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Speaker 2: the bag.

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Speaker 4: That would be a cherry on top. I don't expect it,

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Speaker 4: but I just need her to know what she did

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Speaker 4: was wrong. Okay, so I don't know how to say it.

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Speaker 4: I want you guys to tell me what to say.

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Speaker 3: Gotcha? So you want advice on how to call the

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Speaker 3: mother of the birthday girl after the birthday is over,

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Speaker 3: to tell her it's not cool that she made all

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Speaker 3: of the children at the party build build a Bears

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Speaker 3: and then give them all to her daughter at the

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Speaker 4: This is she's a build She's a build a Bear thief.

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Speaker 4: I want to Okay.

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Speaker 3: Not sure if the name calling will work, but we'll

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Speaker 3: have some ideas for you when we come back.

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Speaker 4: I'm calling you. I can't be trusted, all right.

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Speaker 3: But remember when you're working to call when we'd come

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Speaker 3: back for your awkward Tuesday phone call. Build a Bear edition.

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Speaker 3: Just let's try and calm down a little bit. We're

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Speaker 3: going to play a song and do it right after this.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure I can, but.

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Speaker 3: I'll try.

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Speaker 4: Hold on.

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Speaker 3: It's awkward. It's awkward Tuesday phone call. I know. Brooke

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Speaker 3: has said many times she loves it when other parents

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Speaker 1: Text emails, direct messages, all of us.

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Speaker 3: We do a whole segment time tell Brooks she's a

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Speaker 3: bad mom.

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Speaker 2: Oh God.

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Speaker 3: But the thing is not everybody is as receptive to

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Speaker 3: parental criticism as brook is. That's true. That's why our

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Speaker 3: listener Richard needs our help today because he was upset

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Speaker 3: after dropping his seven year old daughter off at a

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Speaker 3: bild a Bear birthday party game and when he picked

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Speaker 3: her up, his daughter was crying because the host mom

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Speaker 3: made all of the children give their bill of Bears

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Speaker 3: to the birthday girl as like a big happy gift

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Speaker 3: to remember everybody bad. But there was some type of logic.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we talk about core memories. This is definitely wy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're never gonna forget. But Richard's not the only

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Speaker 3: to be the one, though, who calls up the mom

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Speaker 3: and lets her know that he thinks what she did

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Speaker 3: wasn't really right. Yeah, So how does he politely deliver

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Speaker 3: that message so the mom gets it? Let's go to

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Speaker 3: our child's rearing expert, jose For Yes, Josell, what's your advice?

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Speaker 5: Well, I would play vague here and just ask, hey,

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Speaker 5: because likely she's gonna say yeah, I have, And if not,

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Speaker 5: you can just be like, I hear some of them

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so passive aggression.

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Speaker 3: I get what he's saying. That way, Richard doesn't have

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Speaker 3: to own all of the anger, for he can share

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Speaker 3: some of the blame with the parents. Richard, what do

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Speaker 3: you think about that bully her?

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Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah, I mean what if she says I haven't

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Speaker 4: heard anything?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, just then you can break the news I

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Speaker 3: heard from one other Yeah, there you go, I heard

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Speaker 3: from so and so. Good luck beating that advice.

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Speaker 1: So honestly, Like, I know you heard from another parent

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Speaker 1: what this mom's intentions were. But I if you want

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Speaker 1: her to like understand what she did is wrong, I

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Speaker 1: think that you need to have her explain why, like

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Speaker 1: you haven't just asked her. I think you need to

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Speaker 1: come in with an open mind. Nobody ever changes their

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Speaker 1: mind if they're attacked. If you're on the defense, you

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Speaker 1: are never going to see somebody's else's opinion.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I see why she did it. She

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Speaker 4: wanted this special moment strictly for her daughter.

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Speaker 4: you got this, buddy? Here we go? Hello? Hi this Megan?

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Speaker 4: Hi? This is Richard. I'm Vanessa's dad. Oh yeah, okay, Hi,

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 4: I paid for all the bears, right, I don't. I

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, give me you purchased each was it

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Speaker 3: Okay, great, go get together and report me to the

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Speaker 4: Done? Well, you should have them make a build of

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Speaker 4: Ow that was her. You know what the truth is?

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Speaker 4: You know who else thinks you a jerk? Everybody listening

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Speaker 4: What the hell is going on? Yeah? You just got

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Speaker 1: What the hell that.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't it outer for being an a hole?

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Speaker 3: No color of labor camp? That was the funniest back

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Speaker 4: Excuse me? Can anyone tell me what's going on? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, Megan, he wasn't lying. You actually are on

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Speaker 2: It was for advice. We were trying to help the situation,

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Speaker 4: What is this even? I don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, it's a healing segment that we do about bringing

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Speaker 2: Rich Did he get that memo?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: No, Well it's actually called an awkward Tuesday phone call

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Speaker 3: I don't think anybody expected it to nosedive like it did.

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Speaker 2: That wild what happened, Richard? We told you to open

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Speaker 3: But also, yeah, you got a practice being the bigger

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry that they didn't teach their kids how

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Speaker 4: It wasn't their birthdays.

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Speaker 2: I know, well, I know, but I don't get it yet.

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Speaker 2: And you said that.

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Speaker 1: You didn't tell the kids at the beginning of the

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Speaker 4: They're seven years old.

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Speaker 3: They want to ruin the damn surprise. Oh oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Would these people also already brought gifts, Like they brought

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Speaker 2: Was something they put thought into of what your daughter

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Speaker 4: God, you sound like one of the damn whiny parents

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Speaker 4: that call, even if.

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Speaker 2: You still think you're right, which is fine, Like.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna ruin your daughter's social life if you keep

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Speaker 1: down this line. That's a good She's not going to

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Speaker 2: Anyway, you get off.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're proud of yourself for trying to drag

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Speaker 1: to make her daughter happy.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's not tell her what a good mom.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that that's true.

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Speaker 3: Well, that doesn't matter. If you believe it, you should

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that you're trying to make your

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Speaker 3: Which you should try harder. With this apologies, that's.

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Speaker 1: I just think that maybe the lesson of looking at

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Speaker 4: Oh, thank you, thank you so much for all of

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Speaker 4: the tips of how to be a good mother. How

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Speaker 3: I'm trying. My mother gives me that same advice. You

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Speaker 4: He works on radio anymore? Nobody?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that the point you keep laying down

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Speaker 5: Feel bad.

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Speaker 3: I want to work in your labor camps so much

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Speaker 3: you set up so give us I will cry.

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Speaker 4: You know what, I don't care if she's a jerk.

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Speaker 4: Everyone heard how much of a jerk she is. I

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Speaker 3: But your slams to keep getting goes on.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't call that bad. It's also a bad pirate

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Speaker 2: Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning