00:00:08 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you. Hear, I thought I made myself perfectly clear. But you're a. 00:00:17 Speaker 2: Guess to my home. 00:00:21 Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty, and I said, no guests, your presences, presents, and I already had too much stuff. So how did you dare to surbey me? 00:00:48 Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wininger. Look, I hope things are going your way today. I hope you're enjoying yourself on some level. I uh, I spent the morning mostly cheating my way through a crossword puzzle, and I'm not going to apologize for that. I you know, I try my hardest, and this morning it wasn't happening, and I just needed that win. So and I thought the clues were bad anyway. So if you've got a problem with that, I don't know what to tell you. Let's move on. I want to talk about our guest. I'm so excited, thrilled beyond all words to be welcoming. Welcoming Lauren Adams to the podcast. Lauren, Welcome to us. I said, no gifts. I almost messed up the name of the post. I interrupted. 00:01:38 Speaker 2: I interrupted the name of your podcast. 00:01:40 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. You can interrupt whatever you want. You're the guest. 00:01:44 Speaker 2: I was so politely on mute the whole time through your crossword big because I was laughing, and then I interrupted the name of the podcast. So people won't know what they're listening to. 00:01:52 Speaker 3: People are confused now, they're just in a state of absolute panic. They're driving off the road, they're collapsing in their house. I'm so sorry, lives lost. That's fine, you know, that's the danger of listening to a podcast. 00:02:05 Speaker 2: It's true. 00:02:06 Speaker 3: You just risk have Yeah, you run that risk and high risk, extremely low reward. That's what we promise here. And I said, no gifts. So what are you going to do, Lauren? Yeah, Oh, it's so nice to see you. 00:02:21 Speaker 2: It really is so nice to see you. 00:02:24 Speaker 3: I mean, we saw each other yesterday briefly. You will get into that that later later, but I did see you in your car at a Satan mask We both had masks on. The sun was beating down on us. Hot, way too hot. And to be clear, I did not get in your car. That would be dangerous. No, no, no, I was outside the car. You were inside your car. We're two intelligent adults making our way through a pandemic. 00:02:50 Speaker 2: And we respect the pandemic. It is real. We wear masks. This is the first time I've seen your chin like a year, and you're shocked. 00:02:58 Speaker 3: It's a whole new chin. I've done some work. 00:03:02 Speaker 2: And it's longer than I remember. 00:03:05 Speaker 3: Oh, it's a good couple of feet long. Now I felt like I needed a good, like Joker style chin. But tell me how you are? How odd? 00:03:16 Speaker 2: How am I? Doesn't that feel like such a loaded question? These days are good. I guess I'm good. I think I'm good. I also feel like when I ask people that they like qualify it was like they want to tell me they're not good, because no one's good, but they want to qualify it that they realize they're better than a lot of people. And I'm like, it's okay, you don't have to qualify it. Your own grapes, your worst grape. We're all bad. 00:03:40 Speaker 3: It's okay, Yeah, we're just we're doing what we can do. That's all anybody can do. I mean, the last time I saw you pre pandemic, yes, was I believe, outside of an ice cream store in Los Angeles called Ample Hills, which is no more. It's said goodbye. I mean this neighborhood of Los Angeles at one point had about seventy five ice cream stores operation, all on the same street right as a few of them just had to go. Unfortunately, the one with the beautiful patio is no more. 00:04:17 Speaker 2: The one that went. I know it's true, and I know exactly when we saw each other. It was October of twenty nineteen. 00:04:26 Speaker 3: Oh wow, twenty nineteen. 00:04:28 Speaker 2: Probably twenty eighteen. 00:04:31 Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's been that slipping away. 00:04:37 Speaker 2: The past six months have really like they felt like a week and also. 00:04:42 Speaker 3: Nine years exactly. They whold Jurassic period basically they stepped into six months. 00:04:48 Speaker 2: But I saw you right after I met my now fiance. Oh and I was on a date with not. 00:04:55 Speaker 3: Hint right, And I'm just going to I mean, now that we know this information, I'm just going to say up front, didn't feel much of a spark from that guy. 00:05:02 Speaker 2: Yes, it was a you caught me in a it was like a bad date, a really bad date, and it was a low moment in a bad date, and it was so bad that you were supposed to get a drink after ice cream. And I was like, I think I'm done, and he was like, you're not going to get a drink, and I said, no, I think this is it, like really nice to meet you. And it was also like our third date. So the first two had gone the first two had gone fairly well, and then the third one, for whatever reason, his mood was like in the toilet and I had just met my lovely fiance said and was Those dates were so like filled with joy and loved And I was like. 00:05:42 Speaker 3: Nah, isn't that nice to have some contrast in dating When you're like, oh, this guy seems fine, then you meet someone else You're like, oh, no, this guy's terrible. There's some there actually are decent options out there, yes. 00:05:54 Speaker 2: Yes, and so, and you do go on so many bad dates that when one's fine, sometimes you're like, wow, fine. 00:06:03 Speaker 3: I don't completely hate this, let's go for it. Let's lock it in. I deal with fine for the rest of my life, right. 00:06:13 Speaker 2: And he It's funny because like I didn't contact him after that, and I think he got the sense that he was kind of like a bummer and a downer and a dick on that date. So I got a text like a couple of weeks later that was like hey, sorry, like apologizing. 00:06:28 Speaker 3: Oh did you feel like it was a plead to be like, let's try again, or was it just like, sorry, move on with your life. 00:06:35 Speaker 2: I think it was a ploy to let's try, let's try again. And by that point I was already like a month into dating Seth who I was really head of her heel score. 00:06:46 Speaker 3: Third date, you don't get to be a bummer yet. True, you've got to be in a relationship to start being a bummer. Occasionally I get keep bringing the sparks for a minute. 00:06:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, third day is some people call that the sex. 00:06:59 Speaker 3: Day, right, try what's that? Maybe you know I'm not I'm actually not going to defend this person at all. I didn't feel a single spark as I interrupted your day. And of course at the time it was I was like, oh lord, what am I doing. I'm interrupting Laurence date. What if she really likes this guy? But now knowing all this information, I would have just, you know, planted myself there for the rest of the evening until it was over. At least I have loved it. Could have just chatted, well this. 00:07:28 Speaker 2: Cookies and cream together, right, what flavor? Yeah? 00:07:33 Speaker 3: I feel like at that place there at least like fourteen different ingredients in each ice cream. 00:07:39 Speaker 2: Yes, which is why I loved it, because I like a chunk forward ice cream. 00:07:43 Speaker 3: So this is why I think ample Hills that which it started in Brooklyn and then has I lived. 00:07:49 Speaker 2: I lived on that street in Brooklyn. 00:07:51 Speaker 3: You're kidding on Vanderbilt Avenue. 00:07:53 Speaker 2: That was my home for like eight years. 00:07:55 Speaker 3: Tin Kettle. Did you ever go there? 00:07:57 Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:07:57 Speaker 3: That good Hamburger. 00:07:59 Speaker 2: They have a great We're going good tots? Did that close? And that space was cursed? 00:08:03 Speaker 3: It was an odd spot. 00:08:04 Speaker 2: Everything closed that was there. 00:08:05 Speaker 3: But this is my thing with ample Hills and with ice cream in general, and I think this is why and people just you have to pick your side. For me, it was too many things in the ice cream. At some point. If you put too many things in, it just feels like I'm eating cold candy. I mean refrigerated items kind of lightly surrounded by an ice cream and that's you know. But for some people, they love, you know, just pack it in. Let's I mean, just stand up and say you're one of those people. 00:08:34 Speaker 2: I am one of those people. How do you feel about Ben and Jerry's. 00:08:38 Speaker 3: Ben and Jerry's I don't mind, right, Yeah, they like they get a little crazy, But at no point am I ever liked that? Am I even eating ice cream? I always know I'm eating ice cream. 00:08:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm never going to pick an ice cream without a mix in, right, A vanilla, a plain chocolate. Never, That's not me. 00:09:00 Speaker 3: It'll never be you. 00:09:01 Speaker 2: It's me. I am thirty seven years old, and I have to be honest with the kind of ice cream eater I am. And that's it. 00:09:06 Speaker 3: I want a chunk, You've got it. I do think that having some type of alternating texture and an ice cream is important, although I will say if a chocolate ice cream is well made, I'm on board. 00:09:18 Speaker 2: I can be sure it, especially if it's with a dessert. If it's like a fancy dessert and it has a scoop of a plain ice cream. 00:09:26 Speaker 3: Sure, I'll make a look, I'll make a BlackBerry cobbler. I'll put a chocolate ice cream in there. And it's my my brain is shutting down from the pleasure. Wow, So we can. But that, of course, that's because the other dessert is taking the place of the mix. 00:09:44 Speaker 2: And so yeah, yeah, okay, it's all ice cream science. 00:09:47 Speaker 3: I know, and I think that's why we're going to have to take over that space which is now vacant. We'll as ice cream amateurs try to start a business in that multimillion dollar comp that they tried to run a business from. 00:10:02 Speaker 2: We'll do great. You know, all the other scientists are busy with the pandemic. 00:10:07 Speaker 3: I hope that every ice cream scientist on this planet, within the sound of my voice, is working towards a vaccine. Stop thinking about flavors of cream, start thinking about vaccine. 00:10:18 Speaker 2: That rhyme. 00:10:21 Speaker 3: If it rhymes, it's true. So so okay. So right after, right after this date, during this day, you were in the process of meeting your current fiance, which is so exciting, and you've become engaged in the last how long. 00:10:40 Speaker 2: Two months during a pandemic, during a pandemic. 00:10:44 Speaker 3: Again you announced, you know, that you're engaged, and it feels like it was probably eleven months ago. 00:10:50 Speaker 2: I know it was in March. 00:10:52 Speaker 3: Oh, it's almost it's been a few months now, but I mean, it definitely feels like you announced it last year, which is yea. 00:11:00 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, he had like a whole thing planned and then the pandemic shut it down because it was like, oh, nobody can travel, no one can gather in groups and so it was like eventually he was like, do you want to marry me? 00:11:15 Speaker 3: What was the thing he had planned? 00:11:17 Speaker 2: Very sweet? We went on our first date. If you're an Angelo, you might know Trails Cafe and Griffith. 00:11:24 Speaker 3: Park, right, I've never went. 00:11:27 Speaker 2: It is lovely and they just they only do take away, so like go get a piece of pie. They had a coffee. It's really great. But we met there and did a hike on our first date. So when he proposed, he was flying in my sister, flying in my brother and basically was going to propose to me at Trails and then we were going to go on our hike that we went on our first date, and all our friends were going to be and my brother and sister were going to be gathered. 00:11:52 Speaker 3: Oh that's so sweet. 00:11:53 Speaker 2: And then we'd go have like a home state tacos at our house. Oh oh and he's from Texas. 00:11:59 Speaker 3: So you take me there. 00:12:01 Speaker 2: Yeah know, but my brother and sister gonna fly because it wasn't safe at the time one could gather, and so it was like very slowly, like all the elements just started flying away. And then Trails was closed when we went, so it was just and a group of boomers gathered when they absolutely should not have been gathered at the beginning of the pandemic, and they didn't clap or cheer when he proposed. They just sort of blinked us while they ate their like Potla. 00:12:29 Speaker 3: Breakfast romance was on the menu. That's fine, though, Look, you know, you just gotta do what you gotta do. What Ultimately, what's important for an engagement is that both parties are present. I think if you can add something to it, fantastic. But if the asker and the what is the the ask are there, you did it. You got it, you got it. 00:12:55 Speaker 2: It's also like he planned all that. 00:12:58 Speaker 3: That still means oh yeah, just the fact that he unless he was lying and none of that was ever in the cards he could I mean, at this point now I think he actually made a bad move. He should have just I mean, made it seem even more extravagant than it was going to be. He could have said, I had two helicopters that was rented the Hollywood Bowl, right, But good for him. I think you're I think you're locked in with an honest person here who's a planner. And also he's safe, he's willing to call it off when lives are at risk. 00:13:29 Speaker 2: So you appreciate that during these times. 00:13:31 Speaker 3: Yes, and now where did you two meet? 00:13:34 Speaker 2: We met on a dating app on Riah. 00:13:40 Speaker 3: With a dating app. We've got to stop set we're all saying we met on it. It's crazy. There's no other way to meet a person on. 00:13:48 Speaker 2: The during a pandemic, there, really is it? 00:13:50 Speaker 3: Oh right, absolutely, I don't even I mean, if you're single out there, God bless God, bless get. I don't know how it works right now. I'm and people. I guess people are meeting on dating apps and then just chatting. 00:14:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, they think they're doing zoom dates. 00:14:06 Speaker 3: Oh I haven't heard of a zoom date. 00:14:08 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I know this because my little sister got stood up on a zoom date, which is insane. She's like the person on the other end of that is a true insane like that's an actual like bad Like you're a bad, bad person. 00:14:23 Speaker 3: If you can't show up to a zoom date, how are you ever going to show up to a physical dates? You're I mean, something is happening in your brain. 00:14:31 Speaker 2: It's very dun But yeah, you just would like chat and like if it went well on the texting when you set up by like a zoom date. And some people I read an article were like sending a venmo to be like, go get a bottle of wine. I want to buy you a drink or. 00:14:46 Speaker 3: Whatever kind of swing dude. I mean, I got to do what you gotta do. And I think that's perfectly fine. And it's also I mean even lower pressure. I mean, you know there, you don't have to. 00:14:56 Speaker 2: Leave your house. I can wear comfies from the waist down. 00:15:00 Speaker 3: Maybe that's the future of every first date. Let's just get on, get on our computers and being in each other's bedrooms, and if you suck, I'll just hang up. 00:15:09 Speaker 2: And in LA when you would have to drive like far to somewhere. I had a guy once who lived in Century City. This is maybe like a I guess it has to be two years ago before I ha seth and he was like insistent on me sending more pictures and sending my Instagram and like I'm an actor, so like I don't usually like you can find me if you really are trying, but I don't usually like to like advertise who I am, especially if I'm going to give you my phone number. And so he was like consistent on like meeting more photos, meeting more photos, let's FaceTime before we meet. I've been He kept saying, like tricked too much, and I was like no. I was like, no, we both agree that we're gonna meet, and like, maybe we don't look like the way we look. I'm sure you don't look like the way you look like. 00:15:59 Speaker 3: Course, give me a I've been tricked too much? What does that even mean? 00:16:07 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I He kept asking me questions, and then when I would ask him the question in return, like he'd be like, what restaurants do you like? And I'd like list it. I'd be like, oh, I love so many. He'd be like which ones? And I'd list a couple, and then I'd ask him what he likes and He's like, too many to name. 00:16:22 Speaker 3: But he would make me This person's horrible. 00:16:26 Speaker 2: Can you imagine if I had to drive to Century City to go on a date with him? 00:16:30 Speaker 3: It took me an hour and a half to get here, and you refuse to answer any of my questions despite using a whole background report from me. 00:16:40 Speaker 2: Name the restaurants do you like? Name them? 00:16:41 Speaker 3: And I listed so wild people are? Oh the world of dating. 00:16:48 Speaker 2: It is, but that's the kind of people that I kept meeting on dating apps. So like when I met Seth, it was like what it didn't It like just wasn't my experience, of course, And when I think about how easy it would have been for us to not meet, I get like I almost cry because I'm like, it would have been so easy for like either one of us to cancel that morning. 00:17:11 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course, that's how I mean. I've been in a relationship with my boyfriend Jim for about five years, and before our first date, like on the way there, I thought, oh, maybe I should just turn around and go home. He's been a little annoying over text. I'm so tired of meeting people and wasting my nights. It's like, what's the deal? And fortunately I went, But like I could have easily just called it all off and then none of this would have ever happened. It's a different like a different life, different path. It's so wild. But here, yeah, that's I don't know, that's the world of online dating. I suppose maybe zoom. 00:17:49 Speaker 2: We have to I have to take the stigma out of going like when you're not on a dating app, because it's just a normal thing. 00:17:55 Speaker 3: If I met somebody like that I was romantically interested in person for the first time, I don't even know what reality that would be, where like I don't meet people period. Yeah, it's just like my social circle has really just gotten smaller and smaller, and I'm really trying to cut even those people out of my life. So it's you know, yeah, I don't get it now. You and I, of course I believe we met. I did we meet for the first time on the set of Kimmi Schmidt or maybe we met at a table reader, But you and I have now famously acted on screen together. We acted on screen together so wonderful. As Gretchen and Kimmi Schmidt, you and I part a small part which has just been a highlight of my entire life. So we kind of spent a day together at a boy Scout camp in upstate New York. Yeah Staten Island, I think island. 00:18:54 Speaker 2: Yeah Yeah, And all the trucks got stuck in the mud, and so we were like, they're away longer. 00:18:59 Speaker 3: Than It's not a boy Scout camp without a truck getting stuck in the mid Gotta you. 00:19:05 Speaker 2: Gotta And there were actual teen boys on that set, and I was scared of them, right, And I'm scared of teens because teens are confident and I am not. 00:19:14 Speaker 3: And a teen actor who's like working professionally. I mean that confidence level is really through the roof, I think. And they were all so sweet, oh good. I don't think I interacted with them much. 00:19:26 Speaker 2: Yet I had to talk to them. 00:19:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, you, I mean because you in the episode were kind of the leader of these teen boys. And yes, so you were, and they were kind of out of your control. Is that what was going on? 00:19:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were just teen boys and they treated me a mom instead of a cult leader. 00:19:46 Speaker 3: Gretchen is one of my all time favorite television characters. You're just fantastic as her. 00:19:51 Speaker 2: She really tries. 00:19:54 Speaker 3: The poor thing just keeps falling into various cult situations. And you know, that's I think that a lot of Americans can relate to that. I mean, I are people who are kind of trapped in various cults. And it's a very bizarre thing right now to speak to other people who are you know, speaking to a Donald Trump supporter or something can be rough. 00:20:19 Speaker 2: Like such a strong ideology, yeah. 00:20:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, like a full denial of reality. Is such a weird thing to speak to somebody and just like, oh, no, matter what I say to you, it just rolls off your back and no fact will change your mind. 00:20:34 Speaker 2: There's an impenetrable field of like disinformation, like rejecting information, which is so infuriating. 00:20:44 Speaker 3: Very gretchen like. But you do now. Look. I hinted at this earlier in the podcast. Yesterday, we saw each other at a safe distance, and you pulled up on my street. I was baffled, obviously, what's Lauren doing in my neighborhood. She's supposed to be on the podcast tomorrow. Podcast is called I said no gifts, and you kind of beckoned for me to come close to your car. All kind of a frightening situation. You indicate something in your passenger seat, which I, maybe looking back, foolishly picked up out of your car. But now I'm safe and I'm in my apartment. You've given me a paper bag. Yeah, I assume this is a gift for me. You also have sent me an email, and in the email, the subject line is this is a gift, do not open before podcasting, and then several emojis of pink and yellow gift bags. Yes, Lauren, I have to ask, is this gift for me? 00:21:57 Speaker 2: Yeah? I got you gift? 00:21:58 Speaker 3: Okay, fair whatever, we're in a pandemic. I'm willing to look past whatever the Should I open it? Now? Should I open the emails? Should open the paper bag? What should I do? 00:22:09 Speaker 2: Okay? I think you should start with the paper bag and then the email. I'll tell I'll verbally, I'll let you say what the email is terrific. 00:22:24 Speaker 3: Now, the paper bag has been in the fridge. You told me to keep it refrigerated, so I have no idea what this could possibly be. I'm going to open it up here. 00:22:32 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 00:22:34 Speaker 3: There's plenty to apologize for, and I accept all of the apologies. Let's see here. Okay, it's our first fridge gift. 00:22:45 Speaker 2: Really good? 00:22:46 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:22:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah? 00:22:47 Speaker 3: Okay. Should I read the letter first? 00:22:50 Speaker 2: Yes? You should read the letter and the item that goes with it. There's one item in a ziplock thing. 00:22:54 Speaker 3: This is a complicated gift and I'm thrilled. Okay, he says, dearest Bridger. Think of this as a little quarantine starter kit. I'm sorry I've given you two gifts. You have to keep a lot oh alive. Interesting. I hope this isn't a baby, all right, XO Lauren. So let's open it up and. 00:23:12 Speaker 2: Then you'll have to open the inside of that has a little note. 00:23:16 Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, Oh my god, what is happening here? Okay? So now which one should I open first? There's a ziploc bag with what appears to be a leaf popping at it? Should I open this one first? 00:23:27 Speaker 2: Yea? That goes with the card? 00:23:29 Speaker 3: And yet, Oh my god, I'm so thrilled. This is beautiful. All right, this is a gorgeous leaf. 00:23:37 Speaker 2: Do I? 00:23:37 Speaker 3: I mean, do I need to run? 00:23:38 Speaker 2: What? 00:23:39 Speaker 3: Okay? So now I need to open the email? 00:23:41 Speaker 2: No, now, just the card that I gave you. On the inside, there's instructions. 00:23:45 Speaker 3: Oh let's see this right here. Okay, yes, we go headed back. Okay. Part one. Put the cut end of the leaf in just enough water to cover the bottom quarder of the tissue. Oh no, should I have left in the tissue? 00:23:59 Speaker 2: No? No, No, that means plant to the plant tissue? 00:24:01 Speaker 3: Oh, plant tissue learning? Learning about plants as we speak. Place the container in an indirect light situation and change the water every couple of days. Soon you'll see little roots, plant the rooted leaf and sand or pete moss and follow usual snake. Snake plants are exactly what I need because my apartment gets so little light. 00:24:19 Speaker 2: Well, there you go. I give you a snakeplant cutting Part two. 00:24:23 Speaker 3: Check your email start on day three. Okay, so should I check my email? 00:24:27 Speaker 1: Now? 00:24:28 Speaker 2: Yeah? You can. I think you should open the paper towel wrapped gifts because I didn't have wrapping paper and it's a pandemic. You can't just go out and get it. 00:24:40 Speaker 3: Okay, so this, wait, it's not hummus. This looks exactly like I would have jumped right into this without that much. If you had waited another second, I'd have to sell my fingers and be eating hummus. If you want a hummus container. 00:24:55 Speaker 2: Yes, but now you should open your email. 00:24:57 Speaker 3: Okay, opening it if you. 00:24:59 Speaker 2: Don't smell it because it's doesn't smell good. 00:25:00 Speaker 3: Well, I have to smell it. It's a kid, I have to. You know, these are life experiences. Oh this smells like hummus. That may be residual hummus or whatever this is is hummus adjacent. I can't say. Okay, So now I've opened the email. It says bubbs eight day bread. What's happening? What is happening here? 00:25:28 Speaker 2: Sourdough starting? 00:25:29 Speaker 3: Oh, of course this smells. That's why this smells. It's a little funky, it's sourdough. Oh it's beautiful. 00:25:40 Speaker 2: Well, there you go. 00:25:41 Speaker 3: Lord, Okay, I I hate to pause the podcast, but I feel like I need to put this back in the fridge really quickly. 00:25:46 Speaker 2: Right, you should put that back in the fridge really Okay, does not need to go in the fridge. 00:25:51 Speaker 3: Okay, I'll be right back. I'm so sorry. Oh my god, the first ever alive, first ever gift in first ever a live gift. 00:26:02 Speaker 2: I have listened to most of the episodes and I went through and then I went through the instagrams of the ones I hadn't listened to just double check that he didn't have it. But I don't know what since you just started a quibbed quarantine last week, I was like, there could be like ten weeks of uh yes, I don't. 00:26:19 Speaker 3: Know about Lauren. I have returned from the refrigerator. I have put the starter in the fridge. I've put the leaf in a tiny bit of water in a mug that I read like a week before quarantine painted, and here we go. So, yes, okay, I have. 00:26:37 Speaker 2: To keep two things alive. 00:26:39 Speaker 3: That's that's too too many things. But I'm going to pick my best job. 00:26:44 Speaker 2: But they're both. The snake plant is very low maintenance. 00:26:47 Speaker 3: I'm famously low maintenance, yes, and. 00:26:50 Speaker 2: I am not. I'm getting to be a better plant person. But when I moved to California, I decided I wanted plants. That was going to be a thing I did. And so this was the snake plant, my first plant. Okay, I gave you a clipping of my first. 00:27:03 Speaker 3: Oh what an honor. 00:27:05 Speaker 2: And you also can if you want, you can google it. But if that's a pretty long leaf, if you wanted to cut it in half and have two leaves. 00:27:13 Speaker 3: Also do that. That's incredible. 00:27:16 Speaker 2: So they're really cool and resilient and easy to propagate from a. 00:27:18 Speaker 3: Cutting through it. So do you have a lot of plants in your apartment wherever you live? I don't know that condo bungalow mansion. 00:27:29 Speaker 2: It's a bungalow mansion. 00:27:31 Speaker 3: It's a. 00:27:33 Speaker 2: It's uh, yeah, we have a like I think I have a Fiddley fig. I have a pilea. I have a couple of ferns, I have a pothos, I have a snake plant. It was easy. Yeah, I've got a good amount of plants. 00:27:46 Speaker 3: Oh, okay, I've I've never a few episodes of this podcast, I've mentioned a plant, a famously low maintenance plant that I've had, but I've never known what it was, and I refuse to tell people what it is at this point, but I will say that you just named it. 00:28:01 Speaker 2: Okay, great, I had my theories about what it is. 00:28:06 Speaker 3: Absolutely adore it. So yeah, I suggested listeners, just go get all of those plants, and if you don't have any sunlight, the one that lives will be the one that I refuse to tell you. So have you got Have you killed a lot of plants over the course of time or is Yeah? 00:28:25 Speaker 2: I've also learned that like it, like I thought that like, once plants started to look dead, that they were dead, And now I've sort of learned in my research that like, you can do some work to revive and get them back on track. 00:28:38 Speaker 3: Oh interesting, And what does that revival requires? 00:28:42 Speaker 2: It It depends like I had a fig, fiddly fig that was getting lots of brown spots and shedding leaves, and I realized I was overwatering it. Oh, so then I just stopped watering it and basically cut off all the dead and then it's on a strict regiment and. 00:28:58 Speaker 3: It's back to life beaut Okay. I usually will just throw them away, yes, or I recently learned, although I'm no longer really supporting the company, the home depot has a year return policy on the plants. So I've taken back multiple dead, fully completely dead plants to. 00:29:17 Speaker 2: That company, and you're really giving it to them. 00:29:20 Speaker 3: Yes, I certainly am. They are my plant rental business. My apologies to the dead plants, but I've tried, and yeah, being a plant and a live plant is a team effort, and if you're not willing to work with me, you're going to die. 00:29:38 Speaker 2: I get it. The snake plant has a strong desire to live. They're a team player. 00:29:42 Speaker 3: Okay that Yes, because the snake plant and the other plant, which I refused to mention, are always when I because I get very little natural light in this apartment, those two are always at the top of the list. So this is going to be incredible for me. Yea, Now, how long you been in California? 00:30:03 Speaker 2: I feel like we I feel like we moved around the state because we used to both live in Brooklyn. I feel like we moved around the same time I moved in like official official July twenty eighteen. 00:30:14 Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, So but. 00:30:15 Speaker 2: I was back and forth for a while. 00:30:17 Speaker 3: And did you have any plants in New York or was that just not even an option? 00:30:21 Speaker 2: No? I didn't, because I mean I killed a succulent, so I was like, I don't deserve. 00:30:26 Speaker 3: Them, fully understood. This is the first apartment where I've had plants, and I've had horrible luck. I mean, I've managed to keep my secret plant alive. I'm going to keep this snake plant alive. And then I have some succulents. And is the word bougainvilia? 00:30:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, bovilia is beautiful. 00:30:48 Speaker 3: We've bought three of those on clearance from a closed closing store and they've died and then come back to life and died. And now I think that we've got them on a nice little regiment where they'll stay alive. 00:31:00 Speaker 2: Are they flowering right now? 00:31:02 Speaker 3: Yeah? They are? 00:31:04 Speaker 2: Their chimey ear. This is when they thrive. 00:31:06 Speaker 3: Oh, it's incredible. You just got a water enough not too much, and give them as much sun as possible, and there you go. 00:31:15 Speaker 2: Now, Bridger, I don't want to call you out, but it looks like you have a lot of light in the ring you're sitting in right now, so I don't. And plants don't need direct A lot of plants don't need direct They need a lot of indirect light, and you seem. 00:31:29 Speaker 3: To have it. Well, Okay, I'm actually proud of you for just keeping me honest. But what I will say is that we're recording about one Yeah, this apartment faces north, okay, so, and we're currently sitting in my carpeted bedroom, which is not really conducive to having pots on the floor or anything. So I've never even really considered having any in here. 00:31:54 Speaker 2: Have been a hanger, would have been a hanging. 00:31:57 Speaker 3: That seems like a lot for me. Sounds so stressful. I mean, I have a hard time baking a chicken breast. I don't like that's stressful enough for me. So it's the idea of screwing something into the ceiling. What does that even involve. I'm also very small, I'm not going to buy that's true. But he's but he's even worse with tools than me. So if I were his height, I might be the person to put that in, but neither of us is going to be able to do that. But I maybe I could put one on top of my dresser. 00:32:34 Speaker 2: Oh, I like that. We can get a plant stand. 00:32:37 Speaker 3: Maybe that's where the snake plant goes. Actually, not a bad idea. I'm going to get it going. And then yeah, I think that the one good thing about the bedroom is the windows don't have a balcony, so there's nothing blocking any of the light. So maybe this is the place for mister snake plant. 00:32:57 Speaker 2: I love it. I love updates. 00:32:59 Speaker 3: I thank you for calling me out. You know, sometimes you just need somebody to give it to you cold and hard. 00:33:05 Speaker 2: And I see a lot of sunlight in there. 00:33:09 Speaker 3: Well other lies are you're telling your listeners? 00:33:13 Speaker 2: Well, I'm worried that the sourdough is going to be stressful. 00:33:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm now this is something. So I worked at a for a couple of years on and off for complicated reasons. At a bakery. The complicated reason is they accused me of burglarizing the bakery at one point, and I had to like, I was questioned by police and all of this nons me. They thought that I had stolen money. I had broken in and stolen money from them, and then they kind of like slowly took me off the schedule, and then suddenly I didn't have the job. And then later I think they must have either found the actual criminal or realized how insane it would be for me to burglarize the bakery, and they hired me back. But we did have a like what was essentially a it's not a garbage can, but it looks like a garbage can full of starter, like one hundred year old starter or whatever. Yeah that said, I never used it. I wasn't the baker. I was the night manager. So my baking basically was putting frozen cookies on baking sheets and doing that or burning croissants that were frozen as well. Perfect the bread have you? So obviously a lot of people have been baking during the pandemic. Is this anything for you or what it is? 00:34:33 Speaker 2: I bought my sour dough starter off of Etsy from a man who lives like kind of ner Yosemite, I guess what, and had so many bread jokes in he like it was like a tight I'm like a typewriter sheet of paper with my dehydrated starter telling me how to hydrate it. So this is the starter you have now I've given you some of it. 00:34:56 Speaker 3: This is incredible. 00:34:58 Speaker 2: And yeah, he was like, if you don't get the starter to work, it's your fault, not mine. My starter's perfect. 00:35:04 Speaker 3: That's a good attitude. I like a confidence in a product. 00:35:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I'll link to some of his sourdough recipes and stuff. But he has like ten different kinds of sourdough starter on his Etsy like shop that you can do. 00:35:16 Speaker 3: So what are the differences between the starters. 00:35:18 Speaker 2: Different kinds of flower that you feed it. Some are like dark black because they're like a rye flower and funkiness. Some are just like older and funkier. Like one hundred year old starter. This is supposedly supposed to be one hundred year old. 00:35:33 Speaker 3: So this one's been around basically since the last pandemic. 00:35:36 Speaker 2: From San Francisco. 00:35:37 Speaker 3: Yes, the exactly flu was ravaging the world and people were learning to make sour doough exactly. Wow, it's one hundred years old. And what was the process of actually getting it started? 00:35:47 Speaker 2: Just well, it came dehydrated and so I put it in water a little sugar just for the first feeding to wake it up and then flower and then that's all. It's just water and flower. You just keep feeding it water and flour. 00:36:01 Speaker 3: All right. And how long did it take before you're like, oh, yeah, I've done it. I haven't killed. 00:36:06 Speaker 2: It it right away? Like it like the first day it was like bubbly. You can tell because it is alive. It eats the new flower. 00:36:16 Speaker 3: Wow. 00:36:17 Speaker 2: And you can see bubbles and air and like it makes a little popping and hissing sounds and stuff and grows. You need to move it into a bigger container when you go to feed. 00:36:26 Speaker 3: It, okay, So, and how often do I have to feed it? 00:36:30 Speaker 2: If you're not using it, it can just chill in your fridge. You can feed it like every week or every couple weeks, okay. And if you're gonna bake bread that bubb and Grandma's pdf that I sent you, right, you'll start on day three and so you'll basically feed it keep it out of your fridge from day three to about day seven or eight, depending on how long it takes for it to grow. Usually this starter is very active. 00:36:52 Speaker 3: Like for days okay, perfect, I've heard I just heard about twenty percent of what you said, because I was immediately distracted the idea to write a movie, a new little Shop of Horrors set in a bakery with a starter that is insatiable. Feed me, feed me. I think that that's a I mean, everyone within the sound of my voice, hopefully my attorney is listening, that's my idea. No one else can do it. If you want to do it and do most of the work, I'm fully willing to take partial credit and just get your name on it, send me the checks later. Okay. So it is going to be a little bit of a process. And then but you only need a little bit of starter for the actual dough. 00:37:33 Speaker 2: Yes, And so then you discard it every time you feed it. You take like seventy percent of it away and refeed it. Wow, Okay, then you keep that, okay, in a separate temperware a discard and you can make pizza dough, crackers, pancakes. Right. 00:37:52 Speaker 3: Have you made a sour dough cookie? 00:37:54 Speaker 2: I made cake cake? 00:37:56 Speaker 3: Was it incredible? 00:37:57 Speaker 2: Incredible? 00:37:58 Speaker 3: What is the difference with a sour dough k than a regular cake? 00:38:01 Speaker 2: This is it doesn't taste like it's just really airy, okay and light it was It's a chocolate cake and it's. 00:38:08 Speaker 3: Very, very Oh that sounds phenomenal. How often are you baking? 00:38:12 Speaker 2: Like maybe twice a month? It takes fully eight days to do it all with this recipe, I'm also going to text you an easier one. 00:38:20 Speaker 3: Oh, that's no need. 00:38:22 Speaker 2: But it is a full process. 00:38:25 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to a full process. What do you think the time first? Should I do a bread first? Yeah? 00:38:31 Speaker 2: Just do the bread in that that pdf I sent you as a full. 00:38:35 Speaker 3: The full recipe right, and Bub of course, is an absolutely phenomenal bakery here in Yes Angels. The bread is so good. It's so good I'll trust them with my life. I mean, anytime a restaurant serves a Bub spread, I'm just going wild. And it's also dip in a hummus. 00:38:51 Speaker 2: It is I'm sorry I didn't give you a hummus. 00:38:53 Speaker 3: Now that would I think if you had just given me a hummus, it would have been a confusing short conversation where I be like, oh, yeah, I like hummas. You would have said yeah, I like hummas. Maybe we would have talked about things we dip in hummus for a few minutes. And then Lauren, it was nice to see you, but I don't know what else to talk about. Goodbye. Well, oh, I'm so excited to have two kind of little pets. I now own a dog, a plant, and a starter. Do you name a starter? 00:39:24 Speaker 2: Is that? 00:39:24 Speaker 3: So many people do? It has a name? 00:39:26 Speaker 2: Would you like to know it? 00:39:27 Speaker 3: Of course? Sally? Sally? And did you pick that or this guy? 00:39:31 Speaker 2: No? The guy picked it. 00:39:33 Speaker 3: Wow. 00:39:34 Speaker 2: She's named after Ride, Sally Ride because she's like a good, active, easy starter, and that's why I picked her. 00:39:39 Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, Lauren, I feel like I would like to move to the game portion of the podcast. How do you feel about that? 00:39:48 Speaker 2: I'm nervous but excited. 00:39:49 Speaker 3: You should be extremely nervous, that said, I will. I'm going to give you an option of games, and so at least the fault will all be yours. 00:40:00 Speaker 2: Great. 00:40:00 Speaker 3: The game choices, they're called Gift or a Curse or Gift Master. Which one of those would you like to play? 00:40:07 Speaker 2: I would like I am most nervous about Gift or a Curse, So let's do that. 00:40:12 Speaker 3: Okay, give me a number between one and ten seven, Okay. I have to use that number to calculate the things that we're gonna play with. So while I'm calculating. You can promote something, you can recommend something, you can tell people to go to hell. Do whatever you want. I'll be right back. 00:40:28 Speaker 2: Okay, I won't tell everyone to go to Hell. I guess what I'm gonna recommend is what have I been doing during quarantine, mainly moving into a house. I guess i'll plug Unbreakable. Kimi Schmid had an interactive special that came out over quarantine that you can watch on Netflix. And it's a fun comedy special that you get to choose your own adventure on. So that's pretty fun. So I guess that that will be what I plug right now while Bridger calculates and tabulates. And also, again, if you want to make sourdo bread, the above and Grandma's sourdough recipe tells you how to also make your own starter if you don't want to go to an Etsy shop and purchase a starter. I feel like he looks so intense while he's counting. Do I want to tell anyone to go to Hell? I guess I'd like to tell Donald Trump to go to Hell and pandemic deniers, and I'd like to shut down Disney World again. I I'm super political. Sorry, Princher. 00:41:29 Speaker 3: Look, I give you that time, and I think you used it pretty well. You know, I can never promise people how much time they're going to have, and I really just throw them off a cliff to deal with the situation. And I think you handled it really well. And I really, I mean, I don't know that it's even political at this point to say that Donald Trump is bad. Yeah, that's just a real literal reality. I don't care what your political opinions are. The man is a bad human being who doesn't correct. If he was managing a burger king and I walked in, I would walk out of the burger king. So as president of the United States. Look, this isn't a wildly political podcast, and I don't feel like political saying that Donald Trump is a bad person. That's not it's not what what are we even talking about. Also, the interact with Special is fantastic and Lauren is very funny and so oh thank you. Uh let's play Gift or a Curse? Okay, okay, so this is how you play. I'm going to name three things and you're going to tell me if you consider them a gift or a curse, and why, and then I'm going to tell you if you're right or wrong. Okay, So first step, gift or a curse? Tuesday the day Tuesday? Is that a gift or a curse? 00:42:44 Speaker 2: Uh? Tuesday is a curse? 00:42:47 Speaker 3: Why? 00:42:48 Speaker 2: I think Tuesday's a curse because it's like, we know Monday's bad, we get it, Tuesday. We've got so much week left. And especially during the pandemic, these days, you go like it's Tuesdays when I go like, it's only Tuesday every. 00:43:05 Speaker 3: Week, right, Okay, Lauren, Well let me just I'm just gonna have to tell you right off the bat. You got it? Yeah, of course. And this is my this is my feeling on Tuesday. I feel like every every single day of the week has its own little personality. Monday everybody hates. Wednesday is midweek, Thursday is basically Friday. Friday is a little bit of fun, Saturdays even more fun. Sunday we calm down. Tuesday, what do you have to offer anyone? It's never zero personality with this day. It's I mean, there have been attempts with Taco Tuesday, but that just feels forced. 00:43:43 Speaker 2: So we can have tacos whenever we want. 00:43:45 Speaker 3: Right, I meanesday. Yeah, I'm having talks every other day, so I'm not going to be told when I can eat a specific type of food by a day that has no identity and it's just scratch scratching for simple of identity. Tuesday, you're a curse. Lauren's got one for one fantastic that's uh. You know, who knows what the rest of the game holds for you. I'm nervous, okay, gift or a curse? Thirst traps? 00:44:13 Speaker 2: Ooh, thirst traps? Okay? You know, I think the initial response would be like curse, but I think maybe there's traps are a gift? 00:44:26 Speaker 3: Why Lauren? I need to know why, because I don't know. 00:44:32 Speaker 2: Usually they're nice for people to look at. 00:44:37 Speaker 3: Lauren, You've absolutely I'm sorry, but thirst traps are a curse. 00:44:44 Speaker 2: I knew it could have gone this way, said are too much? 00:44:48 Speaker 3: There are The trap of a thirst trap is that anyone ever thinks it's a good idea? I think I especially I feel like within the world of you know, we kind of work within the realm of comedy or whatever, and anytime I see a comedian do a thirst trap, I just wonder, what business are you? What's happening here. The things you're exposing about yourself with a thirst trap are it feels a little insane to me. The idea of needing to be validated for hotness, uh, starts to feel a little insane. Uh, thirst traps for me, I'm just gonna have to say, ten years ago, you know the thirst trap. Maybe maybe it was a private thing sent to somebody, but you know, throwing yourself on this social media app. I think it's a curse. I think the thirst trap is a curse. I knew it. Am I making here? 00:45:43 Speaker 2: Yes, you're and I knew it, and I said it, and then I thought maybe it was a clever I thought I was gaining the game. 00:45:49 Speaker 3: Look, I uh, you don't game the game with gift or a curse, Lauren. You game the game you get egg on your face. 00:45:56 Speaker 2: So I do. 00:45:58 Speaker 3: But look all that said, I'm correct in everything, so you're wrong. But you have a chance to save it here, Okay, final element of gift or a curse? I need you to tell me if this is a gift or a curse. Swinging on vines kind of Tarzan style, swinging on a vine. 00:46:17 Speaker 2: Swinging on vines. I'm gonna say I'm so nervous to get it wrong. Frider. 00:46:25 Speaker 3: Oh of course you are. This is a game of nerves and absolute heart pounding action. 00:46:31 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna say swinging on vines is a curse because ow I think it would hurt my hands, it would hurt my crotch. I think there will be bugs involved. I think it's very hot. I think it seems fun, and it isn't. 00:46:48 Speaker 3: Lauren. I don't know that I agree fully with your logic on this, but I am going to say you got it right. It's a curse. This is my thing with swinging on vines. That's actually a physical reality. Can people swing on a vine? The curse for me is that there's always this idea that you could. We've all been told we can swing on a vine. I've never seen any real hard proof that you can, you know, just kind of move through the jungle, floating from vine to vine like an ape or Tarzan or what have you. That's not a reality, and unfortunately I would love to be able to do it, So it's just going to be this curse on me for eternity. So let's be honest. You got two out of three. That's not bad. 00:47:33 Speaker 2: Now that's pretty good. 00:47:35 Speaker 3: I've seen people get zero out of three. You know, sometimes you get them, sometimes you don't. It's a tricky game. It's built to destroy, and you made it out alive. Congratulations, Lauren, thank you. Let's move on to the final element of this insane podcast. We're going to play. No, we're not going to play anything any The games are over. We're now going to help. This is called I said no questions. I said no question that people are writing into I said no gifts. I said no gifts. At gmail dot com they're asking for help giving gifts. So do you mind helping me answer some questions? 00:48:09 Speaker 2: I would love it. 00:48:10 Speaker 3: Here's the first one. Hello Bridger, My boyfriend has been really supportive of my mental health during quarantine. I'd like to get him to express I'd like to get him something to express my gratitude. His hobbies are expensive dinners and trolling on Twitter, which leaves me in a bind. Thank you, Kenny, Kenny. Okay, so I'm just gonna put this out there. First of all, I don't know what he means by trolling on Twitter. That can mean a lot of things. Right now, yeah, Kenny, I mean you are listening to this podcast for it seems like there's some level of homosexuality happening here. So I can't imagine that you're I mean, unless this is a you know who knows, but I don't. I can't imagine that your boyfriend is out there being a monster on the internet. I doubt that he's. Uh, maybe the trolling is looking through Maybe he's referring to looking through Twitter, or maybe. 00:49:06 Speaker 2: It's like a healthy troll, like he's controlling. 00:49:09 Speaker 3: Trump, right, okay, which we're we support. 00:49:12 Speaker 2: We can control when she like trolls somebody up rather than puning. 00:49:18 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, I think that, Okay, I can get behind that. So the boyfriend likes doing that, which is an interesting activity. And expensive dinners what and he's been very helpful with this guy's mental health, which we all. I mean, if you've got a supportive partner right now, that's fantastic, Kenny, What what does your boyfriend want? I mean expensive dinners? I think that, I mean just the obvious answer is you order in an expensive meal, you light some candles. Yeah, but what can I Lauren, of course guest. 00:49:52 Speaker 2: Here, I what if you do that? You order and you order it an expensive meal, But then you're the weight staff. Oh, the boyfriend is the wait staff. He serves the meal, he does the full thing, and then to allow him to troll, he slides him a comic guard troll the boyfriend in the comic part. 00:50:11 Speaker 3: I love that maybe he dresses up as his least favorite celebrity to be the waiter and allowing the boyfriend to do even more trolling. I think that's an excellent gift. I mean, another obvious option is you buy him an army of bots on Twitter to kind of send after whoever you want. I don't know how that works, but I think obviously that's a reality we're living in. You can buy bots and I assume just kind of command them to attack. So you might want to look into that. But I think Lauren's on the right path here. She takes the expensive dinner and takes it one adds the other thing. It's a shame he only has two interests. But you work with what you got to work with, you work with what you got. He's been supportive, Yeah, he's been supportive, So you've got to reward him in a big way. With Lauren's dinner date idea, get a nice thing brought in tip the person who brings it, well, yes, they're out there risking their life to bring expensive dinner, and you've got a good thing. Kenny and boyfriend, You're welcome. 00:51:13 Speaker 2: We love it. 00:51:14 Speaker 3: Moving on, hi, friends. So this person isn't even addressing me, which look, whatever you gotta do, what you got to do. When you're writing an email, I wanted to see how y'all feel about homemade gifts. I generally feel like people have too much stuff, so for Christmas and Birthdays, I try to bake something. I also cross stitch, so I've been known to make pillows with fun things cross stitched onto them for my loved ones as well. Do y'all like homemade hit? So y'all is in the email, I want to listeners to know that I haven't adopted this new way of saying things. That's and she says best Georgia in Chicago, Georgia, thank you for your email. Here's do you want to go first orner? Should I go first with the homemade gifts? 00:51:56 Speaker 2: I feel like you probably have a better take, so let me get my crappy one out of the way, which is, if you're good at making something, it's fine to give a homemade gift. 00:52:04 Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's exactly what I was thinking. I think, Well, look, it depends on who you are, Georgia. If you're a child, a homemade gift is always welcome. If you're an adult, this is where you have to draw the line. If you're If someone's giving me a homemade gift, I'm thrilled if they're good at making that thing. If they're if they're a good baker, fantastic, I have something to eat if they have If they're an artist, wonderful. I've got a new piece of art I can display that would have probably cost me a billion dollars buying it in a store, and no one else is going to happen. My sister makes me quilts that are incredible that will probably cost four thousand dollars in silver leg So if you're good at something, absolutely even maybe maybe even more than buying things, make the things. It's more thoughtful and it's unique. If you're bad at something, do not make the thing you're If this is your first time baking, what do you all do to do that? 00:52:56 Speaker 2: That's not a gift, that's. 00:52:57 Speaker 3: A curse, that's an absolute curse. You're just giving them something that they're unfortunately just going to have to kind of shovel into the garbage can. So don't do that. But if you have developed a skill, and this is where I guess my life is a little empty. I don't know that I have any friends with skills because I never get a homemade item. I'm always getting something purchase outside of you know, my sister giving me things. And also I have no discernible skills whatsoever. So I'm not able to make things for people either. But I do know there are people out there. There's a whole website called Etsy where people are making things at home. And if you're one of those people, if you're good at it, go ahead, I say, make the homemade gift. 00:53:34 Speaker 2: I think we're in complete agreement. We're a unified front on this nice. 00:53:38 Speaker 3: I mean my neighbor Taya, her name's Taya. She has been giving us bread, she's been giving us cookies. She's an excellent baker. I have no complaints. Each one's a gift. I'm thrilled. My heart is pounding when I get a biscuit. Yeah, if she was a bad baker, I would just be, you know, wasting food. So Georgia, I think Lauren and I absolutely are on the same page here. If you're good, do it. If you're not, at least think it over. 00:54:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, and also if you're a kid, always we love a homemade gift. 00:54:07 Speaker 3: Right, everybody loves a homemade gift from a child from essentially age three to let's say, okay, we could say, well, you get to eighteen, and it's starting to get a little adult territory, and you should have. 00:54:23 Speaker 2: If you can drive, Like when I could drive, I go pick up a like a gift basket from the body shop for MI. 00:54:29 Speaker 3: Right, you like, if you can drive or order something online and you don't have skills, that's the cutoff point. I think. Yeah, so fantastic, Georgia, You're welcome. I don't know. I hope that advice works for you. Laura, it's clear for sure, what a wonderful time I'm having with you. And well, it's the podcast is coming to an end. That sounded like I was going to extend it for another hour. 00:54:53 Speaker 2: We're going to cancel the next guest. 00:54:58 Speaker 3: No, it's been so lovely having you. I mean, I'm so thrilled to have these two new gifts in my life. And they're both actually highly usable, exciting things that are going to require a little bit of challenge and learning, which I need to do. I need that in my life to keep my brain from atrophying. Yes, the crosswords aren't doing that because I'm just cheating on them. 00:55:18 Speaker 2: How far do you get before you cheat? Do you like? 00:55:21 Speaker 3: Sad? I am? Yeah, you know. Let's see, we're recording this. We oh it is is today Tuesday. That's interesting. I did not that was not part of gift or a curse. I want full disclosure. So maybe that's part of my problem. I was mad this morning and just not I didn't have the patience. 00:55:39 Speaker 2: Do you do cross I You know what, when I was a waitress in New York, I used to do the Times every day because we got the Times and I could like usually get to like halfway through Wednesday with no cheating, which is not a good. 00:55:55 Speaker 3: So I think that's great. Monday is a breeze. Always always say is a wild card. Yes, Sday I usually can kind of do. And then the rest of the week, who can we can forget it? Right? Yeah? I usually It really just depends on my mood and patience. So whatever you can, we all have to do. What we have to do. It's a pandemic. 00:56:18 Speaker 2: Yes, well, let me just say before you depart, if you need to text me when you're baking, Like questions you think are dumb, feel free because I texted a friend and it really helped. 00:56:27 Speaker 3: Me a lot of them. Oh fantastic. Okay, Well you're going to be hearing from me, yes, and Lauren. Hopefully we'll be able to see each other in person soon we'll be able to like with chins out everything. It'll be, but hopefully it won't be two years. All right, thank you so much for being here, and everybody, have a wonderful rest of your day or go to bed. I don't know what time it is when you're listening to this, so and it's none of my business. Take care of yourselves. Goodbye. I said No Gifts isn't exactly right. Production engineered by Earth Angel Stephen Ray Morris. The theme song is by Miracle Worker Amy mann h. You can follow the show on Instagram and Twitter at I Said No Gifts and if you have a question or need help getting a gift for someone in your life, email me at I Said No Gifts at gmail dot com. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcast, Stitcher or wherever you found me, and why not leave a review while you're at it? 00:57:27 Speaker 1: Hell I invit? Did you hear? Gonta mad myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to me, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests, your presences, presents, and no, I already too much stuff. So how do you the dander surbey me? 00:58:01 Speaker 2: You don't