WEBVTT - Alfa Romeo - A Modest Proposal (Lily's Version)

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<v Speaker 1>In another world, I would have had a sweatshirt to

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<v Speaker 1>bring in today that that said happy Holidays to everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>but especially Valtrie Bodice, who is an Alpha Mayo driver.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was stolen, and I want to be petty.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a message for the person who stole it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very angry. And that is why after all of

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<v Speaker 1>our many different props of this season where Alpha Alpha

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<v Speaker 1>was a little admittedly a little forgotten, so I think,

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<v Speaker 1>how does a sweatshirt get stolen? Was someone broken to

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<v Speaker 1>your home? No? No, it was delivery, Yeah it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was delivered, and I went right down, like three

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<v Speaker 1>minutes later, was gone. Those people that steal delivery packages,

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<v Speaker 1>I've always I've thought about having like some type of

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<v Speaker 1>weapon delivered that would explode upon impact. I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>guess what I just described as a mail bomb, which

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<v Speaker 1>is not cool and I shouldn't advocate for that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I want something bad to happen to those people. I

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<v Speaker 1>will say. There was a viral video of someone who

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<v Speaker 1>created their own glitter stink bomb and put it on

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<v Speaker 1>their stoop and say had they had a camera in

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<v Speaker 1>there so they watched some person opening their car and

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<v Speaker 1>just ruin their entire car. Yeah, that was good car.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like that's funny, funny, harmless, but very effective.

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<v Speaker 1>So I hope that person learned their lesson that a

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<v Speaker 1>glitter stink bomb could be sitting anywhere people who aren't

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<v Speaker 1>You don't live in major cities, you know, you just

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<v Speaker 1>get your packages delivered on your porch. It's all good.

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<v Speaker 1>But in New York City you've got five thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>living in the same building. And but yeah, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much trust in the suburbs that I am too changed.

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<v Speaker 1>So to this end, today we're talking about a team

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<v Speaker 1>that does have a history in the sport of Formula one,

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<v Speaker 1>but also can be a little bit forgotten. So that

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<v Speaker 1>is none other than Alfa Romeo. However, before we are

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<v Speaker 1>you count them out, I will say they could be

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<v Speaker 1>turning a new leaf right now. So there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to be excited about with Alfro Mayo. I personally am

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<v Speaker 1>very stoked about their driver lineup. So there's there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to get into today. Alfa Romeo, Yo, I hit

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<v Speaker 1>me from my Heart Radio and Sports Illustrated Studios. This

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<v Speaker 1>is choosing sides one. Wow. W Wait, So if you

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<v Speaker 1>thought the whole Renao Alpene history was confusing. Alfa Romeo

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<v Speaker 1>really says, hold my beer. So but we're gonna we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna skim through a lot of it. Were the the

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<v Speaker 1>broad Strokes Espresso that's actually much better. Yeah, espresso and

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<v Speaker 1>apper all spirits. That seems appropriate. Okay, So we talked

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about Alfa Mayo with our Ferrari episodes

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<v Speaker 1>because they are intertwined. So just to recap a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of this. So, Alfa Romeo is an Italian car

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturer that's been around since nineteen ten. They're in name

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<v Speaker 1>was originally just Alpha and it was capital all caps

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<v Speaker 1>A l f A. The founding name was actually an

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<v Speaker 1>acronym for butcher, this Italian annema lombarda fabric, which basically

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<v Speaker 1>means it had a bunch of anonymous investors. And then, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the Romeo part comes from Nicola Romeo. He was an

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<v Speaker 1>engineer and entrepreneur. He acquires a majority steak in Alpha

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen fifteen, so only a couple of years later,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he eventually owns the entire company by nineteen eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh yeah, so eventually he of course tax on

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<v Speaker 1>his name Alfromeo. That's that's where it comes from. And

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<v Speaker 1>in term we'll get to the racing part of the team.

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<v Speaker 1>But in terms of our guy Nicola, because of course

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<v Speaker 1>was curious, he ended up leaving Alfa Romeo after a

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<v Speaker 1>series of bad investments and other issues. By night, I

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<v Speaker 1>have zero other fun facts about him except that he

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<v Speaker 1>has seven children, which is quite a brood. Yes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that Roman Catholic birth control. Yeah, working around the clock

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<v Speaker 1>or not. Yes, So basically teams al Fromeyo. It's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>brands Alfromeo. As we know, it's still called al Fromeo,

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<v Speaker 1>and it really makes a name for itself in the

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<v Speaker 1>luxury vehicle and car market. In terms of racing, Alfa

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<v Speaker 1>Romeo starts racing in nineteen eleven, so the year after

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<v Speaker 1>its founding. It does have some success across a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of different series and disciplines, including but not limited to

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<v Speaker 1>Formula one, rally, sports car racing, and then touring car racing.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, things are going well basically. Though more specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>if we get to Formula one, Alpha has been in

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<v Speaker 1>it since the pre modern era, you know, in Formula

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<v Speaker 1>one debuts as an actual sport in nineteen fifties, so

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<v Speaker 1>they started competing in these kind of grand grands pre

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<v Speaker 1>in the late es other of the new Alphas that

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<v Speaker 1>crosses the line with a brilliant young driver of Algieria,

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<v Speaker 1>Guy Mall. This is where some of their history intersects

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<v Speaker 1>with Mercedes in a couple of different ways. There's long

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<v Speaker 1>supremacy of Italian cars is at last to be challenged

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<v Speaker 1>on the others in Berlin by rear engined auto unions,

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<v Speaker 1>the first new racing cars of the third right, so

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen forties, again around the time of World

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<v Speaker 1>War Two, and then directly after they had mixed success

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<v Speaker 1>in these kind of this pre F one era because

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<v Speaker 1>Mercedes was dominating. As we discussed in the Mercedes episode,

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<v Speaker 1>their pre F one cars and Mercedes were were great.

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<v Speaker 1>They want all those European Championships as they were called. Uh. However,

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<v Speaker 1>when F one actually becomes a real formalized sport, Alfa

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<v Speaker 1>Romeo wins out. They actually are the winners of the

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<v Speaker 1>first ever World Championships with Giuseppe Farina, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>win again with a guy one Manuel Fangio Banjo the

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<v Speaker 1>rising star came through to win, and this incidentally at

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<v Speaker 1>the age of thirty nine, when many drivers think of retire.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is like in the sport of legendary guy. Up

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<v Speaker 1>until Michael Schumacher in the early two thousand's, Fangio was

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<v Speaker 1>the winningest championship driver, so for almost half a century

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<v Speaker 1>held that title. No man has given more to the

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<v Speaker 1>essentially a twentieth century out of motor racing than has

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<v Speaker 1>the incomparable je Manuel Fangio, five times champion driver of

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<v Speaker 1>the World. Oh La Fangio. He was Argentinian. Okay, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>he actually exits the sport of f one after getting

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<v Speaker 1>kidnapped by revolutionaries in Cuba. Kidnapped at Pistol Point by

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<v Speaker 1>Cuban rebels, obviously seeking to embarrass President Fatista's government by

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<v Speaker 1>making sure the star attraction is not on the starting

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<v Speaker 1>line on the big rate. They don't torture him or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>They just keep him there, like give him a sandwich

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<v Speaker 1>and basically how they handed back and he's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really want to do any of this stuff anymore. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this is just a time where crazier shit

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<v Speaker 1>happened exactly. Yeah, So that's Alpha Mayo. They they win

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen one and then they say peace out this one. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They end on that high note, and they leave for

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<v Speaker 1>a very long time. So again we're going to skip

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<v Speaker 1>over some of this because it's super confusing. But basically,

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<v Speaker 1>from ninety two until the mid nineteen eighties, Alfa ro

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<v Speaker 1>Mayo is sporadically involved as an engine supplier and a

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<v Speaker 1>constructor suppliers. But basically, yeah, none of these teams are

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<v Speaker 1>particularly successful or interesting. So again that's why we're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of breezing through like thirty five years of history here.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get ahead. The year is now so much more recent.

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<v Speaker 1>Alpha begins partnering again with Ferrari as a sponsor. Their

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<v Speaker 1>logo starts to appear on Ferrari cars. A couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years later eighteen now they become the title sponsor of

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<v Speaker 1>a team called Souber, which has been around for a

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<v Speaker 1>very long time, and Souber is seen again has a

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<v Speaker 1>special relationship with Ferrari. For instance, Charlotte Claire at for

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<v Speaker 1>he got to start his first year was at Souber.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of drivers in the sort of Ferrari pipeline

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<v Speaker 1>get their start at Suber. Yes, Souber copy, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Alfa Romeo. You know the history they have in the

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<v Speaker 1>sport um it's incredible, so that was taught to like Calderone.

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<v Speaker 1>You might remember her all the way back during our

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<v Speaker 1>first episode, but she was actually an Alfare Mayo test

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<v Speaker 1>driver at one point. Their biggest strength lies in in

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<v Speaker 1>the people they have hired. So a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>guys that I that I work with are still in

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<v Speaker 1>the team. They have a great team of engineering people

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<v Speaker 1>at the factory, very passionate about what they do, and

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully we'll see them like we have seen at the

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<v Speaker 1>start of this season, that they can fight for really

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<v Speaker 1>good positions. This is where things do get very, very confusing.

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<v Speaker 1>So Alpha returns the sport. They end up taking over

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<v Speaker 1>the name of the Solber team, but the team is

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<v Speaker 1>still operated by Souber, so every all the leader, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>remains at Salber. It's just a new name. So today

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<v Speaker 1>you see Alpha Romeyo now Orleans a sponsor, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>Alpha Romeo Orleans but then operated by Suber. Yeah, confusing,

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<v Speaker 1>but Alpha Mayo basically comes back to the grid in

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<v Speaker 1>historically have not always been the strongest. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>they're back of the pack when they enter in twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's kind of where where Alpha sits is back

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe back of the midfield or back of the

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<v Speaker 1>entire pack. So yeah, so I guess overall, Alphro Mayo

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<v Speaker 1>Historic team kicks off the F one err and style,

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<v Speaker 1>leaves for a while, kind of returns randomly, and then

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<v Speaker 1>disappears again and is under all sorts of different names,

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<v Speaker 1>and then finally decides for the time being that they

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<v Speaker 1>are in fact going to do this F one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And so twenty nineteen to present, that's where we're at.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like they never should have left. Yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what you can do exactly? It could have been Ferrari. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if i'd want to work under ends

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<v Speaker 1>because he sounds like kind of a nightmare. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna google their car. Can of look at their car?

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<v Speaker 1>That is a almost like a cherry red Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>all these cars are sweet looking, but that thing is badass.

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<v Speaker 1>Big upgrades for So here's what's working out in their

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<v Speaker 1>favor so far. We're getting to the drivers in a second,

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<v Speaker 1>but in terms of the car, it appears that with

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<v Speaker 1>under the new regulations so far as as of this recording,

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<v Speaker 1>the team is comfortably midfield for the first time in

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<v Speaker 1>a very long time, which is very, very exciting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can just tell the team seems more excited

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<v Speaker 1>and more energized than they have. But I think in

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<v Speaker 1>that in large part has to do with the driver

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<v Speaker 1>line up. Yeah, yeah, I would think you want to

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<v Speaker 1>help move us on to drive. No, I don't. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to stop. I'd like to stop there. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so excited. This is my underrated king. Well who's driving

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<v Speaker 1>their cars? We'll get into the drivers, but right after

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<v Speaker 1>we take a break. Okay, I am going to be

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<v Speaker 1>making this is a whole personal pitch from me. I

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<v Speaker 1>am welcoming you with open arms. I love this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>in our kind of number one seat here we have

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<v Speaker 1>got uh Finnish Instagram boyfriend. And as I said, King,

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<v Speaker 1>Valtorie Bodice excellent name. Yes you have a dog Walter.

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<v Speaker 1>Valterie is the finished version of the name Walter. You

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<v Speaker 1>already have a bit of a connection to Valtorie Bodice.

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<v Speaker 1>And it should be noted for our millions of listeners

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<v Speaker 1>that Walter is on the lab of YOHI right now

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<v Speaker 1>I think is he is? He's such a little slut

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<v Speaker 1>I left. Okay, So Valtorie, I like this guy? Yea

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<v Speaker 1>valty body. Why do you like him, okay, So let's

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<v Speaker 1>do a little bit of Valterie's history here. So Valtorie

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<v Speaker 1>comes from humble beginnings. He is not a millionaire's kid,

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<v Speaker 1>a billionaire's kid or anything. So his dad owns a

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<v Speaker 1>small cleaning company and his mother is a funeral director.

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<v Speaker 1>Here that Nicholas Latifi. He wishes he could be valtere Bodice,

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<v Speaker 1>which his funeral director mom and cleaning company dad. Another

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<v Speaker 1>fun fact about Valterie he actually served in the Finnish

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<v Speaker 1>Army for a short time because it's mandatory for adult men,

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<v Speaker 1>so he obtained the rank of Lance corporal. Great, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love to see it. So yeah, Valtorie doesn't get

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<v Speaker 1>his start through a racing family. In fact, his whole

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<v Speaker 1>career is due to a chance encounter when he was

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<v Speaker 1>six years old where he's at the grocery store with

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<v Speaker 1>his grandfather, happens to see a flyer for just a

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<v Speaker 1>local carting event that's happening, and decides to go. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's already great. And what also intersects with this time

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the nineties, with Valtories now in his

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<v Speaker 1>early thirties. In the nineties, there is an iconic finish

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<v Speaker 1>racing driver named Mika Hackenan he won two back to

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<v Speaker 1>back titles in the late nineties, joyfully out of the car.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so there's a lot of fervor around Mica. He's

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<v Speaker 1>also very finished and being kind of earnest a little

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<v Speaker 1>riot times. It looked very easy, was it? Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was so easy, and you can't believe it. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't so Valtorie between going to this local carding

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<v Speaker 1>event and Mika, you know, hackened In being in the

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<v Speaker 1>news all the time, you know, he's he's hooked on this. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So he eventually is able to make his way to

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<v Speaker 1>the carding scene and and gets into competitive carding throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the early and mid two thousand's, eventually makes his way

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<v Speaker 1>to open will racing, to these junior formula categories where

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<v Speaker 1>he picks up a ton of victories. The young Finn

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<v Speaker 1>really is being touted the next Kimmie Ryk and then

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<v Speaker 1>he's certainly got the same line in dry humor. He's

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<v Speaker 1>looking unstoppable. Everything's going great for Valterie, and in he

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<v Speaker 1>gets a gig as a test driver for Williams, which

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<v Speaker 1>we just talked about. To see Valtery connecting with the

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<v Speaker 1>team you like. Uh, and this is when he's still

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<v Speaker 1>kind of serving in in junior you know, racing in

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<v Speaker 1>junior formulas. Finally, the year he gets a spot on

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<v Speaker 1>Williams team. However, it was a rough year. Both both

0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:05.360
<v Speaker 1>cars didn't do well, you know, it just it was

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<v Speaker 1>a rough one. However, things improved in he ends up

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<v Speaker 1>finishing in the driver's Championship standings and P four and

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<v Speaker 1>P five. Yeah, so William's car was working, Val was

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<v Speaker 1>doing well exactly exactly. Things are looking good, you know,

0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.600
<v Speaker 1>he gets he gets the teams, blessing, etcetera. And then

0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.920
<v Speaker 1>things really start to look good. A couple of years later,

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the season, Mercedes has Lewis Hamilton's and

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<v Speaker 1>Nico Rossberg to former besties who are now arch rivals,

0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:45.440
<v Speaker 1>and Nico Rossberg, after a very toxic, just terribly divisive season,

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<v Speaker 1>ends up winning his first and only world championship and

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<v Speaker 1>beats out Louis at the last second. And so, as

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<v Speaker 1>if that wasn't dramatic enough, five days after winning this

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<v Speaker 1>world title, I want to take the opportunity to announce

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<v Speaker 1>that I've decided to end my FUMLA one career um

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<v Speaker 1>in this moment here on Monday. That's what I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to say. I thought that was coming. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>he had two more years left on his contract. Piste

0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Lewis off too well. Mercedes wasn't expecting it, you know. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>similar to this whole, uh, this whole Daniel Ricardo suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>leaving a vacuum at Red Bull, Nico's sudden retirement announcement

0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:25.040
<v Speaker 1>is you know, shock retirement basically leaves another big void

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<v Speaker 1>for Mercedes. We need to just come up with a decision,

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<v Speaker 1>look at the drivers that are out there, and then

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully quickly decided they now have an open seat that

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't necessarily expecting to fill. For a bit, they're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, who could we fill in this seat?

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<v Speaker 1>Who won't We don't want to repeat of this Nico

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<v Speaker 1>Lewis drama. It's not good for team morale, it's not

0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.000
<v Speaker 1>good for the constructor. You know. They don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>put a second Niko in there and make this whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing bad. So I guess who's been doing well during

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<v Speaker 1>his time and f one, I want to present a

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<v Speaker 1>new member of the family, So give him a big

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<v Speaker 1>round of applause. As certain Valterie Walter Bodice. I' kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>His liddle name is not. His name was on Walter.

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<v Speaker 1>Walter spots are so coveted and it's such high stakes

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<v Speaker 1>that when one person leaves, it just sends waves. It's

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<v Speaker 1>such an enormous earthquake of action that then has to

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<v Speaker 1>follow to get everything back in place exactly. And especially

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, it was a surprise, right, it's already

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<v Speaker 1>it's already a bit a bit chaotic, so everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out this Val guy who's been on

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<v Speaker 1>the grid for a little bit. And basically Valtree ends

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<v Speaker 1>up spending five seasons at Mercedes and they were a

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<v Speaker 1>little tough, so he has his highs and his lows. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he wins a bunch of races. He's really fast in qualifying,

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<v Speaker 1>so he gets a lot of poll positions. He finishes

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<v Speaker 1>on the podium a ton during his five Mercedes years.

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<v Speaker 1>He ends up i think in finishing P. Three in

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<v Speaker 1>the standings twice and P two twice, so behind Lewis Lewis,

0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:54.120
<v Speaker 1>and then this past year it was between Lewis and Max,

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<v Speaker 1>so he was third behind the two of them. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a couple of issues, though they are always existing,

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<v Speaker 1>so one obviously Louis Hamilton's Sir Lewis Hamilton's is his teammate. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Lewis is the goat, that's the guy who you're being

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<v Speaker 1>compared to constant. It kind of sucks if you're paid

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<v Speaker 1>two and you still feel like the guy in this

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<v Speaker 1>in the garage next to you is beating you exactly

0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.760
<v Speaker 1>and the Lewis is in the midst of this string

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<v Speaker 1>of victories, right, and on top of that it's already

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<v Speaker 1>kind of an issue, is that the team chose bias

0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:30.800
<v Speaker 1>towards Louis at two point two. Do not fight with Louis.

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<v Speaker 1>There's several occasions of this where they give those team

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<v Speaker 1>orders to have Valtrie, you know, move aside, to let

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<v Speaker 1>Louis through, to do something in a race or a

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<v Speaker 1>qualifying session to make things better for Louis. Yeah, Patrians, James,

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<v Speaker 1>please about the fastest laugh attempt for the end of lap.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it happens at the detriment of Valtori's own race

0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:51.760
<v Speaker 1>or own strategy to difficult day for you, difficuld day

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<v Speaker 1>for us. Let's discuss it afterwards. That sucks. Yeah, just

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<v Speaker 1>a quick interjection here. Um. Valtrie himself made some unusually

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<v Speaker 1>candidate remarks on this whole situation on One's official podcast,

0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Beyond the Grid. It was like, I don't know what's

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<v Speaker 1>the description, like biting my own teeth together and really

0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:13.919
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel natural and not right because I'm the racer,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did it for the team, so it's just

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<v Speaker 1>not fun. And it's it's again of the course of

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<v Speaker 1>five years, so it's not like this happened one or

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<v Speaker 1>two races. This is half a decade. And then, as

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<v Speaker 1>if all of that wasn't enough, Mercedes team boss Toto

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<v Speaker 1>Wolf Daddy Toto. We have not talked about him at

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<v Speaker 1>length in a little bit, but Daddy Toto refuses to

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<v Speaker 1>give Valtrie a contract longer than year to year, so

0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:38.080
<v Speaker 1>he's on five one year contracts while Lewis, yeah, Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>is getting signed. Everyone's inn sent a multi year you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So he feels like, and he's talked about this in interviews.

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<v Speaker 1>He was actually very brutally honest after it right after

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<v Speaker 1>he left Mercedes that you have pressure contractually for nine

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<v Speaker 1>years for your formal one career year by year, it

0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.320
<v Speaker 1>starts to eat you from inside, you know. Yeah, it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes you not feels confident. It makes you like

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<v Speaker 1>the team is not really backing you. But that's really

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<v Speaker 1>stupid of Daddy Toto because this guy isn't some okay driver,

0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:09.680
<v Speaker 1>he's P two, P three. Give him a multi year

0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:13.800
<v Speaker 1>deal and pay him a lot and Louis, that's really

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<v Speaker 1>done with them. According to Valtorie, Toto's rationale is that

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<v Speaker 1>the year two year lights of fire under Valterie. Yeah,

0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:24.760
<v Speaker 1>but you can only ignite so many fires. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>very exacting feeling because we're talking about Alpha Romeo that

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<v Speaker 1>that's what happened. Yeah, there's always little frustrations. Interestingly, director

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<v Speaker 1>Survive has made him and Louis seem a little more

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<v Speaker 1>adversarial at times. And yeah, again, as like with everyone else,

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<v Speaker 1>they've had their moments, but generally a lot of Valtorie's

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<v Speaker 1>biggest resentments have been more with Mercedes leadership than with

0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Louis Hamilton's and him and Louis actually have a really

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<v Speaker 1>sweet relationship. They are both, like I said, now in

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<v Speaker 1>their thirties, so they were older and when he came

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<v Speaker 1>on the team is a little bit older in his career,

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<v Speaker 1>a little more developed. Louis was a little bit more mature,

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<v Speaker 1>than he was, you know, back when he was winning

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<v Speaker 1>his first title with McLaren in the late two thousand's,

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<v Speaker 1>so generally taking them on a personal level, they do

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<v Speaker 1>get along. After Louis lost his bid at the eighth

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<v Speaker 1>world title last year, he only came out of hiding

0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.240
<v Speaker 1>for two events. It was to get knighted by Prince

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<v Speaker 1>Charles and the second was Valtorie's Parwell party. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>obvious that he holds him in high regard. He he

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<v Speaker 1>really when he left too, had really nice things to say.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if Lewis didn't want to do things, he

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<v Speaker 1>just won't do things. That's pretty wonderful because they definitely

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<v Speaker 1>we're in a position to be in the trenches together

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<v Speaker 1>and they could. You know, it's very likely you don't

0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:32.160
<v Speaker 1>like those people, so that's cool. The two of them

0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:34.440
<v Speaker 1>are also up there in terms of being one of

0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:37.600
<v Speaker 1>the most successful partner's driver partnerships in F one history.

0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:42.320
<v Speaker 1>So of course, you know it's Vale's fifth season. There's

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<v Speaker 1>already a little bit of something in the air where

0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:46.560
<v Speaker 1>people feel like he's he's maybe on his way out.

0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Everyone knows George Russell are Apparent has been at Williams

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<v Speaker 1>for three years. How much longer can you keep this

0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:55.120
<v Speaker 1>poor kid? Who have you annointed the golden boy at

0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:58.280
<v Speaker 1>a shitty team. And on top of that, Valtterie is

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<v Speaker 1>really not having a great season. It's fine, it's just

0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:03.359
<v Speaker 1>not his best. He crashes, he has some other slip ups.

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<v Speaker 1>Is just not it's just not looking good long term.

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<v Speaker 1>And at this point he's in his early thirties. He

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<v Speaker 1>wants some more stability and security. He doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be fighting year to year for that Mercedes contract. Yeah,

0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:14.800
<v Speaker 1>he's gotten the winds, he's gotten the pole positions, he's

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<v Speaker 1>ended up on the podium in the standings like he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He's achieved all of that, so he's kind of looking

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<v Speaker 1>for what does he want next? So he announces in

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<v Speaker 1>late one that he is going to be moving to

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<v Speaker 1>Alpha Romeo. He's had to play second fiddle to Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilton in all of those years, so he will go

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<v Speaker 1>and be the main man at Alpha Romeo, which everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, okay, you know, they finished p nine

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<v Speaker 1>in one out of ten teams. Everyone's king, well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>good for him. You know, he's still in the grid,

0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:47.880
<v Speaker 1>but he's really stoked because he gets a multi year deal.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's interesting is I listened obviously as a fan

0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:52.879
<v Speaker 1>of his too many interviews, and he was very much like,

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<v Speaker 1>trust me, they're going to do cool things in two

0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Like he was very adamant about this in a way

0:21:57.160 --> 0:21:59.959
<v Speaker 1>that Valtorie is a very earnest finish man. He does

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<v Speaker 1>really hype things, So I was I was really intrigued

0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:06.639
<v Speaker 1>that he was so excited about the move. Obviously he

0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:10.480
<v Speaker 1>knows he's gonna be the number one driver. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>at VAL's first season where the season's obviously still going on. However,

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<v Speaker 1>immediately off the bat with the first race, Valtrie makes

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<v Speaker 1>it to Q three, the you know, the final stage

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<v Speaker 1>of qualifying. He starts earning points off the bat and

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<v Speaker 1>and as of right now, Alpha is kind of switching

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<v Speaker 1>between P five, P six and the standings so Humongous

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<v Speaker 1>jumped for them pretty much entirely based on Valtteries standings

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<v Speaker 1>in these races. So he's just been been killing it

0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:40.800
<v Speaker 1>on the grid thus far. Obviously seems a lot more comfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>a little more secure because he knows he's not fighting

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<v Speaker 1>for a contract at the end of the season. He

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<v Speaker 1>signed a multi year deal, multi year so aside from

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<v Speaker 1>all of this racing with Valve. Okay, here's what I

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<v Speaker 1>really like about Valtorie, and I will say, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's that maybe Louis a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>Louis's whole vibe rubbed off on him over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>But he has a lot going on off the track.

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<v Speaker 1>So first and foremost, his girlfriend is an Australian Olympic

0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:09.960
<v Speaker 1>cyclists named Tiffany Cromwell. Yes, but they are like a duo,

0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:12.760
<v Speaker 1>like they are the O t P. I ship them.

0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:14.679
<v Speaker 1>There are two couples. I will be devastated if they

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<v Speaker 1>ever break up and one true pair, One true pair. Okay,

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:22.399
<v Speaker 1>did you know that? What do you think? Yes? The

0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:25.920
<v Speaker 1>answers yes, they say this in his rob I actually

0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:30.040
<v Speaker 1>did not know. I mean, I love Lily's generation just

0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:32.720
<v Speaker 1>throws these acronyms around as if we're supposed to have

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<v Speaker 1>any shitty idea what that means? Okay, t one true pair, Yes,

0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:40.960
<v Speaker 1>but they're doing an endgame. Is their end game. So

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<v Speaker 1>tiff and Vale are very fun because because of Tiffany.

0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:47.959
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I love Tiffin Vale, so I call them

0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:51.440
<v Speaker 1>mom and Dad in my newsletter. Um, so Tiffin Vale,

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<v Speaker 1>like when he's not racing. They travel around like cycling

0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:58.359
<v Speaker 1>everywhere together and if he's not having a race weekend,

0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 1>he will go to her I cling races. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>similarly she'll come to the paddock if she's not racing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times to anyone who's kind of connected

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:09.480
<v Speaker 1>to the teams of the drivers during not races can

0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:11.680
<v Speaker 1>like use the tracks. So she'll cycle on these official

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.359
<v Speaker 1>F one tracks if no one's practicing or just you

0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:16.480
<v Speaker 1>know whatever, they're allowed to do that, so it would

0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:20.040
<v Speaker 1>be sweeter if people were practicing for the bike out there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very squid game. So he'll he turns into a

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<v Speaker 1>total Instagram boyfriend. He takes photos on the side of

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<v Speaker 1>the road of her and all of her friends. He

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:32.640
<v Speaker 1>sets up a tripod and like a full full professional

0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:35.360
<v Speaker 1>camera setup. He has the water and the granola bar.

0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:38.159
<v Speaker 1>As soon as she finishes and she collapses into his

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:41.960
<v Speaker 1>arm like it's very is this is o t P ship? Yeah,

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 1>there's something very cool about a egomaniac Formula one driver

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:51.440
<v Speaker 1>offering support and very and very gladly being a supportive

0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:55.040
<v Speaker 1>figure and not the attention. Yeah's attraction. Aside from that, though,

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:59.280
<v Speaker 1>other things he's done he is a known coffee connoisseur. Oh,

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I love him all ready, Finish love their coffee, they do.

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:06.000
<v Speaker 1>He also judges coffee competitions on the side. You know,

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I want to taste one of his expressions because I'm

0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm addicted to coffee as he is so um alf

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Ro Mayo test driver Tatiana Calderon Again, besides the coffee,

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:19.879
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, Pottery is somebody that has so

0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:24.480
<v Speaker 1>much experience with with a top team. He knows what

0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 1>it feels and what it takes to win a Formula

0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:30.480
<v Speaker 1>One race to be on full position, and that's what

0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:34.240
<v Speaker 1>any team would like to have um as as a

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:38.360
<v Speaker 1>as a racing driver. Somebody with the experience, with the knowledge,

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:41.800
<v Speaker 1>with the speed and the maturity that he brings to

0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:45.240
<v Speaker 1>the team. I think it's it's a great addition. Velter

0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:47.880
<v Speaker 1>has got some stuff going on in the grid's he's

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 1>making moves this year, and then he also seems to

0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 1>have a rich personal life outside of the sport. Plenty

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 1>of hobbies, a lot to like here, a lot to

0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:58.200
<v Speaker 1>like you, a lot to like here. And also one

0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:01.120
<v Speaker 1>of the things you said that I love, as you said,

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 1>he's not like a hype guy. He's not like over promoting.

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:09.159
<v Speaker 1>If anything, he he under promises an over delve. I

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:10.760
<v Speaker 1>love it, and I also love and I can hear

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Yohi's microphone getting ready to get this in. I also

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 1>love that he's placing P two, P three behind this

0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, mega star, and yet the mega star still

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:27.720
<v Speaker 1>has mad respect for him, you know what I mean.

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:30.479
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I'm excited for him to be in this

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 1>number one car position at a team, even though we

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 1>haven't talked about the second driver yet, but but we will. Jo, Hi,

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 1>just hit me with it. No, I'm just wondering if

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:42.960
<v Speaker 1>you could maybe maybe talk a little bit about there

0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 1>there have been a lot of really really good finished drivers.

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 1>If you were going to give me a piece of

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:54.639
<v Speaker 1>paper and say, write down fifty countries that have historically

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:57.400
<v Speaker 1>been good at racing, I don't think I would ever

0:26:57.520 --> 0:27:00.240
<v Speaker 1>have even written down Finland. I would have written Usta

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Rica before I would have written Finland. Yeah, it's a

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 1>little bit random, but they do have a history of

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 1>success in the sport. So you've got Yamka hacking in

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:10.720
<v Speaker 1>back in the nineties, you've got Kimmi reikin In was

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 1>known as the Iceman which is pretty funny. Kiki Rossberg,

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:16.120
<v Speaker 1>his son Nico was the guy who won the Mark

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:20.640
<v Speaker 1>World Championship against Lewis and retired. They're all very earnest,

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:23.919
<v Speaker 1>they're a little bit self serious, have a very dry

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 1>sense of humor typically, and it seems to work for

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:31.160
<v Speaker 1>them in terms of high speed race card. Right, yeah,

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 1>thank you for indulging me. Quick break and we're back. Okay.

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 1>I love this guy. But there's two people that race

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:45.040
<v Speaker 1>for Alpha Romeo. So who's the other guy? The other guy? Okay?

0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 1>So he is a Chinese drivers, Yes, the first Chinese

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 1>driver in the history of F one. And so the

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 1>reason I say that is because he in his lower

0:27:56.680 --> 0:28:00.439
<v Speaker 1>formulas they used to call him guan Yu Joe, but

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:02.679
<v Speaker 1>upon entering Formula one, he's like, hey, I want you

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:05.720
<v Speaker 1>to pronounce my name the way you know, the Chinese

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>tradition surname first. So it's Joe guan You, now Joe

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 1>guan You. Okay. So Gwanyu is the lone rookie on

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 1>this gridge and for certain the only Chinese driver ever ever. Yes,

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>so we'll get into him more. But Formula one, like

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:32.479
<v Speaker 1>NBA Tennis Olympics, they're all realizing this market exists and

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 1>we need to be in it. Yes, he actually moved

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 1>to the UK from China all the way back in

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 1>so he would have been yeadolyst like preteen years old

0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 1>because of the fact that there wasn't a lot of

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 1>really great competitive racing in China. He wanted more opportunity,

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 1>He wanted to learn from the best. He had the

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>money to do that, so he he moved halfway across

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 1>the world for that chance. There's a lot to say

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 1>about Joe in terms of his career. I mean, he

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>has had some successes and all of that. I would say,

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 1>we don't know too much about his personal background. This

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I think makes sense and in line with the Chinese tradition,

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 1>So we don't know too much. We do know he

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 1>has money. He has a very extensive designer shoe collection,

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 1>sneaker collection. He has a sneaker head. So if he's

0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>dropping like five different pairs of Valenciaga sneakers, you have

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 1>to assume that there is money somewhere in that pipeline.

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:28.600
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, he also has a little bit, just a

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 1>tiny bit of the Nicholas Latifi Allah Williams thing going on. Yeah,

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 1>he has he for instance, stayed a little bit longer

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 1>in some formulas, So he was in Formula to, for instance,

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 1>for three years, whereas as we've established most drivers on

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>any given series usually only one to two years. So

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:49.719
<v Speaker 1>has has enough money wherever it's coming from to have

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>some longevity where a lot of drivers do not. Can

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I play a bad cop for a second. Yes? Did

0:29:55.920 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 1>they just make sure he had a eat because he's

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Chinese and this is an enormous market. The Formula one

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 1>is never even tapped into ever A complicated question, we'll

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>get into it. So yeah. So here's where things get

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>very sticky or murky. Is that the rumor is no

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 1>one has said this out loud. We don't know if

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 1>it's exactly the Chinese government, if it's you know, Chinese,

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>other Chinese sponsors they offer up alph Mayo, They're like, hey,

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>if you get put this guy on you in this seat,

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>there's thirty million pounds waiting for you or more. Is

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>this not the horse head in the bed of Godfather? Yeah?

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>So why can't if you just win Formula two, why

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 1>don't you just automatically get a seat, Like, why don't

0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 1>they just make that the fucking rule that suggestion I

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 1>love that. It's episode fourteen and YOHI now just says

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I love what Michael said. Um, actually it's okay. Rob turns,

0:30:54.080 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Rob turns, Mike off. Joe has some backing. And it's

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 1>hard about this is there's been theories on who is

0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 1>behind this and what exactly was promised. We don't We

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 1>still don't really know, I will say. Unsurprisingly, a lot

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 1>of the discussion about the money behind Joe has been

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>plagued by a lot of racism and xenophobia, and it's

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 1>interesting that's like, hmm, you don't have anything to say

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 1>about like the white European guys who had a very

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>similar set up in the past, but suddenly, you know,

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Joe Guani is a different, whole, different beast to share

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 1>to those. So so that's been very tricky, is that. Yeah, Like,

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 1>no one quite knows where it's coming from. Some people like, yeah,

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely the government. Some people like, oh, it's it's

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>some sort of industry in cahoots with the government. A

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 1>long story short, It's one of those situations where some

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>people are like, yes, Joe is absolutely a pay driver,

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 1>and other people like, well, he's like a weird like

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 1>because we don't really know what exactly it is. But

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 1>he has miracles standed up on this seat. We know

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 1>he has money, we know he's connected to some people

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 1>of money. Basically just a lot of question marks and yeah,

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 1>that's what's led to unfortunately, has some suspicions, some attacks

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 1>and whatnot. Yeah. So in terms of his driving, he

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 1>did on his first race, so his Formula one debut,

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 1>he did score point, he got ten. Yeah, he has

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 1>struggled since then. He got to P. Eleven's in a

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 1>row the poor guy, which is the first position where

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 1>you don't get any points. He's had some spins and

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 1>crash and this and that, which again he's a rookie.

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 1>This is all kind of expected. I will say what

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:22.480
<v Speaker 1>he has going for him. One he's incredibly friendly and

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 1>two he treats the team well. So after he got

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>this point, I know he's not a fun a fun villain,

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>but he after he got his first point in his debut,

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 1>he went around bowing to everyone. And he's always been

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:36.840
<v Speaker 1>also a good sport about the fact that Valterie Is

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 1>is the number one guy and is doing really well overall.

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 1>And they also seem to have a really I mean

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 1>they're ten years of parting age, right, so, but they

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 1>have a very cordial, nice, friendly, positive relationship. It's very

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>early days in there in their relationship because the other

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 1>both new to the team. But at least joke on

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 1>you for all that's going on with the money or whatever.

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 1>He himself seems to be okay. He's in an odd

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 1>position and where it feels like he could go either

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>way as the paid driver or no, I'm really really

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:08.120
<v Speaker 1>good and you know I have some backing, but I

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>guess time will tell on that. Yeah. Unfortunately, it is

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 1>too early to really form an opinion of his racing.

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 1>But I'm intrigued. I would say that's the word. I'm intrigued.

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 1>And from a marketing standpoint, the potential is enormous and

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 1>it's probably a big part plus thirty million pounds of

0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>why Alpha Romeo took a chance on him exactly. He

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 1>has to speak English, right, Yes, he does speak English, um,

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 1>and I mean he lived in in the UK for

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 1>a decade before this. The other thing that a lot

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 1>of people, myself included like is that he is a

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a fashionista. He has talked about looking

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 1>up to Lewis in terms of his fashion. As I said,

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 1>he's a massive designer, shoe collection sneaker head. Yeah, total,

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 1>totally into that and can speak pretty intelligently about his collections.

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Let me show you some photos of Oh shit, is

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:58.239
<v Speaker 1>you holding a purse? It's a bag. But like that's uh,

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 1>that's a bold move. It is. But good for him

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 1>for for having the confidence to rock that he's trying

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>stuff out here. Have to get a bad personel only

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>if it's a triangle. Okay, I guess I gotta get one.

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 1>So we have now met nine out of our ten teams.

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Where is Where is Alpha coming in for you? Now?

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't love the paid driver situation. That really hurts.

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that was a big decision they had to

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:33.760
<v Speaker 1>make because they needed the money whatever. But Valtrie is awesome.

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:42.279
<v Speaker 1>Alpha Romeo brand name awesome, the car. That car is beautiful.

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:45.719
<v Speaker 1>The cherry red I love. So I'm gonna say for me,

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Alpha Tori is somewhere in here. Williams, I still like

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot, and Alfa Romeo I like a lot. You've

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 1>got some real different picks up and down. I know,

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I know, And it's basically here's how it's working for me.

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 1>A brand name. I recognize and feel something about plus

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 1>at least one driver who has guts and grit and

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 1>is maybe a little understated. I think I've just come

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 1>up with my own formula. You're just psycho analyzed yourself.

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:20.279
<v Speaker 1>How does that say about me? And so where where? Yeah?

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Where do Valterie and Joe sort of come into play?

0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:26.839
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't come into play. Sorry, it sounds like I'm

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 1>being a jerk. But proof show me, Joe that you're

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:31.919
<v Speaker 1>an amazing driver. Will We'll find out. Valtrie is great.

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I think it's awesome that he's paid

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:37.759
<v Speaker 1>his dues. I love the Lewis Hamilton's thing that he

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, was with him and beat him sometimes and

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:45.360
<v Speaker 1>they still have some. I love the finished thing. Coffee.

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Come on, I have I text all you guys every day?

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Who needs a coffee? And everyone ignores me? You know

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 1>who wouldn't ignore you if you texted him, Valterie. He

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 1>would talk to you about coffee. He would Yeah, exactly right,

0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:59.320
<v Speaker 1>exactly right. I should have brought Valterorie's favorite coffee with

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:02.480
<v Speaker 1>me today. Unfortunately it was very specific and long, and

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 1>you should have brought your alpha Romeo sweatshirt. But it

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:10.320
<v Speaker 1>got stolen. Sorry guys. Before we sign off, I just

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 1>need to give you guys a quick update. Okay, so

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:16.239
<v Speaker 1>we have produced introduction and now he thinks he freaking

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>runs this whole thing. Producer goo hi, take it away.

0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:26.719
<v Speaker 1>So do you guys remember Silly Season. Well, at the

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 1>very tail end of Silly Season, Alpha Romeo announced that

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:34.839
<v Speaker 1>it is ending its partnership with Souber. So that's gonna

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:38.360
<v Speaker 1>happen at the end of the three season So in

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 1>about a year and a half for real, are you joking? Yeah?

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, and it This could mean it's

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 1>pulling out of the sport entirely, or perhaps it's just

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 1>switching partners. We really don't know yet, but yeah, that's um.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that. Next time, we have our final team. This

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<v Speaker 1>team is the only American owned team on the Grid.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go. They are an episode of the Office personified.

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<v Speaker 1>If you said we need to make a mockumentary series

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<v Speaker 1>based on a Formula one team, I would say, just

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<v Speaker 1>film the Hoss Garage. Don't even need to hire actors

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<v Speaker 1>or make scripts. Just film Hoss. Is it a German brand?

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<v Speaker 1>It is not. It is in fact American named after

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<v Speaker 1>an American named Gene Hass. We will have more white

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<v Speaker 1>collar crime. We will have some of the funniest and

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<v Speaker 1>weirdest sketchy sponsors. We have some real villains. We have

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Schumacher's son finally entering the picture. And we also

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<v Speaker 1>have another really fun comeback story. It is your favorite guy,

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<v Speaker 1>the suck my Ball's Mate man himself, Kevin Magnusson Balls Mate.

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<v Speaker 1>That something so funny about that because Mate is basically

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<v Speaker 1>like friends. That's like, hey, hey, my friend Paul. So

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<v Speaker 1>they truly have everything at HOSS, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>they finished last last year they did not a single

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<v Speaker 1>point was earned. So we're gonna have a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait. I can't wait to hear about it.

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