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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us

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Speaker 1: wherever you may be, across the nation or around the world.

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Speaker 1: Vindication in some way at long last for those of

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Speaker 1: us who have been arguing against mask for years. We

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Speaker 1: will discuss the Georgia four person of the Grand Jury,

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Speaker 1: that is after Donald Trump is an imbecile. We will

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Speaker 1: play some audio of that. Donald Trump on his way

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Speaker 1: to East Palestine, Ohio to survey the damage there, while

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden remains in Europe. Quite the contrast, a perfect metaphor,

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Speaker 1: one might say, for America first but Buck. Late last

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Speaker 1: night this went up on the New York Times website.

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Speaker 1: It is an opinion piece on their editorial page this

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Speaker 1: morning in the newspaper and the headline Brett Stevens is

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Speaker 1: the author the Mask Mandates did nothing, will any lessons

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Speaker 1: be learned? And I'm just going to read a first

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Speaker 1: couple of paragraphs. The most rigorous and comprehensive analysis of

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Speaker 1: scientific studies conducted on the efficacy of masks for reducing

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Speaker 1: the spread of respiratory illnesses including COVID nineteen was published

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Speaker 1: late last month. Its conclusion, said Tom Jefferson, the Oxford

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Speaker 1: epidemiologist who is its lead author, were unambiguous. There is

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Speaker 1: no evidence that they meaning masks make any difference, he

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Speaker 1: told Mary Anne Demass. Full stop, wait, hold on, what

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Speaker 1: about in ninety five masks as opposed to lower quality

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Speaker 1: surgical or cloth masks. Makes no difference, none of it,

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Speaker 1: said Jefferson. What about the studies that initially persuaded policymakers

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Speaker 1: to impose mask mandates? They were convinced by non randomized studies,

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Speaker 1: flawed observational studies. Now, Buck, we talked about this. This

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Speaker 1: is the Cochrane Study, a British nonprofit I'm reading from

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Speaker 1: the editorial, widely considered the gold standard for its review

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Speaker 1: of healthcare data. Seventy eight randomized controlled trials, six of

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Speaker 1: them during COVID six hundred and ten thousand participants in

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Speaker 1: multiple countries. No study or study of surveys ever perfect.

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Speaker 1: But there is no sign that masks made any difference

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Speaker 1: at all. So some of you out there maybe saying,

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Speaker 1: of course, I've been listening to you and Buck for

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Speaker 1: two years or longer. We know that this is true.

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Speaker 1: Why is this a story, buck? I think the New

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Speaker 1: York Times finally telling its audience that all of their

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Speaker 1: mask wearing was cosmetic theater that had no impact is

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Speaker 1: significant because they're finally acknowledged the truth three years after

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Speaker 1: many of us began to argue it. This is because

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Speaker 1: also there are no political consequences for it at this point,

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Speaker 1: the mid term has passed. Very few places, if any,

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Speaker 1: really still have mask mandates in place. There's i think

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Speaker 1: doctor's offices in New York City, some hospital systems still

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Speaker 1: on the well doctors wear masks, So that's why we

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Speaker 1: should all wear masks. There's really cheer that should be

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Speaker 1: unpacked and should be addressed. The fact of the matter

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Speaker 1: is that the entire consensus health medical establishment got this wrong.

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Speaker 1: That's beyond any doubt. I actually think that Brett Stevens here,

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Speaker 1: who generally makes a living trashing Republicans for the amusement

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Speaker 1: that he goes too soft in the article because what

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Speaker 1: happens when you say mask man dates don't work. Then

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Speaker 1: the response from the true believers, the Fauciites out there

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Speaker 1: still who worship at their tiny altars to that tiny man.

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Speaker 1: They will say, oh, well, here's the thing. It's because

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Speaker 1: we didn't mask up properly that we have this problem.

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Speaker 1: It's not that it's not that masks don't work, is

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Speaker 1: that mandates don't work. Wrong, The masks don't work. If

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Speaker 1: you were doing this for any other medical intervention. If

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Speaker 1: this was a study for a pain killer or some

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Speaker 1: any kind of a drug, a sleep medication, and you

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Speaker 1: looked at this macro study of studies, which is the

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Speaker 1: gold standard that you could possibly find, the Cochrane study,

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Speaker 1: and it showed zero efficacy, you would be laughed at.

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Speaker 1: You would be laughed at on any other issue if

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Speaker 1: you said, well, we should still do this, It's still

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Speaker 1: worth a shot. But they will never admit this. And

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Speaker 1: I think that for a lot of us, it was

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Speaker 1: deeply discouraging about the Democrat Party, about humanity more broadly,

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Speaker 1: that they would not only go along with this, but

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Speaker 1: that they would be the enthusiastic enforcers of this. I

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Speaker 1: believe that one of the reasons we can't just let

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Speaker 1: this go is clay. If the next issue comes up

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Speaker 1: that same mindset of the Siberian prison guards in the

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Speaker 1: sky that we had with airline attendants. By the way,

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Speaker 1: and please don't send me an email saying but my

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Speaker 1: wife or my husbands and airline well, were they being

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Speaker 1: to people and not being some of them were maniacs. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I dealt with it personally. I'm not talking about the

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Speaker 1: people who are nice that we're saying, Look, other people

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Speaker 1: between bites to mask up. That is a psychopath. That

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Speaker 1: is a person who needs serious, serious psychological assistance. There

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Speaker 1: were millions and millions of them across the country, and

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Speaker 1: they until they are made to wallow in the reality

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Speaker 1: of their own foolishness here, they will mobilize again. They

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Speaker 1: climate crisis, clay, whatever the next thing, whatever the thing is,

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Speaker 1: they will go along with with the same zeal unless

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Speaker 1: they are made to recognize that the masks Stazi are

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Speaker 1: foolish beyond belief and should be ashamed of themselves. And

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Speaker 1: I can't even think of anything similar to masking that

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Speaker 1: has been more universally adopted and been less beneficial in

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Speaker 1: my entire life. And that is why I think, And

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Speaker 1: again I understand some people saying, well, we've known this

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Speaker 1: to be true for a long time. Why is this significant?

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Speaker 1: The New York Times at knowledging that masking didn't work

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Speaker 1: petty tyrants, mandating masks is a big moment, and I

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Speaker 1: are thinking. And I will say this Buck. They had

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Speaker 1: Times reporters that it's become so embarrassing the arguments that

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean they've given up. It doesn't mean they

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Speaker 1: I was I was spreading disinformation. And this is supposed

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Speaker 1: whole buck sexton spreading disinformation because I said that masks

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Speaker 1: few shows, including ours. They took shots at our friend,

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Speaker 1: the Great Steve Bannon over at War Room. They took

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Speaker 1: shots at some other some other folks for disinformation in

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Speaker 1: this realm on COVID. They should be sending The New

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Speaker 1: York Times should be sending an apology email yes and asking, hey,

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Speaker 1: how do you and Clay come up with such a stute,

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Speaker 1: forward leaning analysis without any medical background whatsoever. What's it

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Speaker 1: like to be brave and write? Please come in and

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Speaker 1: lecture our newsroom about that. Ali, You can confirm our

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Speaker 1: your work. Brookings Institute said they couldn't find the time.

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Speaker 1: He's wrong. Here's Joe Biden buck back in August of

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Speaker 1: have been fired. And this is something that we're going

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Speaker 1: or ten years, but they don't. They don't want to

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Speaker 1: see how this plays out while the lunatic left continues

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Speaker 1: to run the show there. So we'll come back to this.

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Speaker 1: By the way, big update Clay from Andrea Mitchell. Oh oh,

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Speaker 1: we got something for you already. We're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 1: bring that to you here in just a second. Stay

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Speaker 1: with us. A big update on that one. Look, I

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Speaker 1: also want to tell you about all the great work

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Speaker 1: right now, everybody, thanks for being here with us. What's

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Speaker 1: what's the Churchill quote? Right? Democracy is the worst form

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Speaker 1: of government except for all the other ones that have

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Speaker 1: been tried. Yeah, that's kind of how I feel about

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Speaker 1: the whole jury of our peer system sometimes, right, it's

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Speaker 1: it's better than the alternative. Right, you don't want some bureaucrat.

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Speaker 1: Other people ken actually ask for a bench trial, but

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Speaker 1: you generally don't want some bureaucrats, some man or woman

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Speaker 1: of the state to just determine your fate, or have

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Speaker 1: government employees who do receive their paycheck from the apparatus

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Speaker 1: from the system. So we got peers. We got people

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Speaker 1: right jury duty? What was it? But do you remember

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Speaker 1: the last time you did jury duty? Clay? I do?

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Speaker 1: What about you? Do you remember? Yeah? I was like

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Speaker 1: two thousand. Actually, I don't want to say it on

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Speaker 1: air because I don't want to come after me. It's

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Speaker 1: been a while, it's been a while. I had to

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Speaker 1: do it, and I got nervous because it was a

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Speaker 1: trial that might take a couple of weeks, and I,

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Speaker 1: first of all, I'm an attorney, so I thought I

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Speaker 1: would get knocked out just based off being an attorney.

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Speaker 1: And then I got all the way too seated on

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Speaker 1: the jury panel. And then one of the attorneys said,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I really like listening to this when

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Speaker 1: I was doing sports talk radio locally in Nashville, so

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Speaker 1: it's probably been like years ago. The guy one of

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Speaker 1: the juries, one of the attorneys, like, I really like

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Speaker 1: listening to mister Travis on his radio show, so I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna strike him. And so I got out. That

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Speaker 1: was when I was doing sports talk radio, based on

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Speaker 1: based on that fact, otherwise I would have been seated

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Speaker 1: potentially for weeks. And for what we do, it's actually

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Speaker 1: noticeable when we don't go to our job. So I've

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Speaker 1: always been afraid of just like I don't want to

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Speaker 1: miss the radio show for two weeks because I'm sitting

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Speaker 1: on a jury trial, right, So the jury system that

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Speaker 1: we have is Look, our system is imperfect. But if

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Speaker 1: you even no matter what one may think of Andrew

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Speaker 1: Tate and his possible innocence or guilt of the charges

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Speaker 1: in Romania, remember Andrew Tate was just a few months

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Speaker 1: ago on Tucker's show, the most googled man in the world,

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Speaker 1: I think for a couple of months. I mean that

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Speaker 1: was a real statistic. You know, they've just extended his

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Speaker 1: pre trialed attention another thirty days and there may not

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Speaker 1: even be a trial. There have for people who don't know, like,

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Speaker 1: this is why you got to be super careful when

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Speaker 1: you're out of the country, because as much as you

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Speaker 1: might not like our justice system, my goodness, look out

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Speaker 1: if you're elsewhere. I do think there's it's quite a

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Speaker 1: coincidence that the charges that have come against mister Tate

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Speaker 1: have come when they have, and against his brother. Um

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Speaker 1: that's not I don't know, but no one knows because

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Speaker 1: no charges have Actually, they could hold you in Romania

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Speaker 1: for six months before you even get to go before

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Speaker 1: a judge and say, you know, I'm guilty, You're not guilt.

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Speaker 1: Six months they now, I know a lot of you

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Speaker 1: are saying, hey, Buck, what about the J six defendants. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got problems with our we got problems with our system. Two. Um.

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Speaker 1: We're bringing all this up though, because it is quite

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Speaker 1: a reminder of what we are, what we're dealing with.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes here with the various legal efforts and I would

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Speaker 1: argue extra legal and abusive efforts to try to get

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I mean they're doing it is actually hard.

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Speaker 1: We'd do this for a living. And to keep up

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Speaker 1: with all the different there was the non criminal civil

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Speaker 1: trial against the Trump organization in New York. There was

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Speaker 1: the Russia collusion Muller probe. There's now, you know Ejeene

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Speaker 1: Carroll saying that Trump sexually assaulted her thirty five years

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Speaker 1: ago and she's going to sue. I mean, to keep

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Speaker 1: up with all of these, none of them ever go anywhere,

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Speaker 1: None of them ever. I mean the only thing that

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Speaker 1: they would say is the Trump organization paid like a

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Speaker 1: million dollars fine, which for an organization of that size

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Speaker 1: is the equivalent of a parking ticket. There's also this

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Speaker 1: Georgia grand jury proceeding. And this is how Seana reports

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Speaker 1: on this because they have a a four person. Can't

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Speaker 1: say foreman anymore, the four person and just give a

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Speaker 1: time it will be a four they. You see it

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Speaker 1: wasn't it. This singer recently referred to fisher they Sam

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Speaker 1: instead of fishermen. You know what I'm talking about Sam.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even see that story. Oh yes, he wants

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Speaker 1: to be called a fisher they not a fisherman because

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Speaker 1: he likes to go fishing. Anyway. Four person I digress

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Speaker 1: of the Atlanta based grand jury investigating Donald Trump for

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Speaker 1: attempts to overturn the twenty twenty election, effectively trying to

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Speaker 1: criminalize First Amendment protected speech legal theories. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: whole thing is nuts. This is the four person who

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Speaker 1: has been doing a media tour. Here she play sixteen first.

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Speaker 1: This is the person who is running the jury basically

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Speaker 1: of this possible criminal indictment of Donald Trump. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to hear from the former president, but honestly, I kind

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Speaker 1: of wanted to subpoena the former president because I got

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Speaker 1: to swear everybody in and so I thought it'd be

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Speaker 1: really cool to get sixty seconds with President Trump of

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Speaker 1: me looking at him and being like, do you solemnly

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Speaker 1: swear I'm getting to swear him in? I just I

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Speaker 1: kind of thought that would be an awesome boment the

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Speaker 1: American jury system on display. Folks. Well, and I think

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Speaker 1: as ridiculous as that audio sounds, her squirrelly movements while

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Speaker 1: she's giving it, and the fact that she's doing interviews

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Speaker 1: for MSNBC and CNN and working her way across the

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Speaker 1: entire left wing media ecosystem. She is, according to people

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Speaker 1: who have tracked down her Pinterest page, very obsessed with

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Speaker 1: witchcraft and sometimes buck And I was saying this off air,

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Speaker 1: I think Trump is benefits from his foes because they

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Speaker 1: are such poor representations, even of the anti Trump movement,

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Speaker 1: that a lot of people just roll their eyes. But

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Speaker 1: the bigger picture here is you have got these democrat jurisdictions.

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Speaker 1: And for people out there who don't understand this, when

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Speaker 1: we were when I was in law school back in

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Speaker 1: the day, and then when I started practicing law, forum

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Speaker 1: shopping is a big deal. It's not discussed that much

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Speaker 1: in the general public. But what I mean by that

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Speaker 1: is when you decide where to file a lawsuit. Very often,

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Speaker 1: astute lawyers will say, I want to file in this

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Speaker 1: state or this jurisdiction because the legal climate favors me,

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Speaker 1: and therefore that's why they call it forum shopping. It's

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Speaker 1: like you're looking around at all these different potential localities. So, Buck,

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Speaker 1: when I practice law in the Caribbean, if you could,

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Speaker 1: I was in the US Virgin Islands. For people who

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Speaker 1: don't know, I love the way this is one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite Clay facts that you moved to the Caribbean

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Speaker 1: and you were a lawyer, and you didn't pitch this

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Speaker 1: as a screenplay to ABC or something. You know. I

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Speaker 1: was a lawyer in the biggest law firm in the

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Speaker 1: United States, Virgin Islands, thirteen attorneys. When I graduate from

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Speaker 1: Vanderbilt Law School, I am still licensed. Unless they've pulled

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Speaker 1: my license and I haven't heard about it. In the US,

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Speaker 1: I'm still paying for the license the US Virgin Islands

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Speaker 1: and Tennessee's pass the bar in both those jurisdictions. But Buck,

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Speaker 1: I took the US Bar Exam the Virgin Islands Bar

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Speaker 1: Exam in a courtroom basically overlooking the Bay in Saint Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I practiced in this law firm for a couple of years,

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Speaker 1: everybody who could sue in the US Virgin Islands would,

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Speaker 1: And I'll give you an example. American Airlines flew in.

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Speaker 1: They were one of our clients. If you ever got

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Speaker 1: hit by a beverage cart, or you ever slipped on

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Speaker 1: a airplane, or you ever had you got the food

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Speaker 1: was too hot, you sued. If you could file a

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Speaker 1: negligence complaint against American Airlines, you filed it in the

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Speaker 1: US Virgin Islands. Average juror eighth grade education population of

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Speaker 1: the US Virgin Islands only around one hundred thousand people.

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Speaker 1: It was considered to be a plane offs paradise, and

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Speaker 1: so you wanted to get in front of a Virgin

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Speaker 1: Islands jury jury because they would take go off on

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Speaker 1: these state side because whether you lived in the island

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Speaker 1: or off island was a big deal. They'd go off

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Speaker 1: on these stateside corporations. So every planeiff's lawyer worth his

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Speaker 1: or her salt would try to file in the US

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Speaker 1: Virgin Islands because you've got a beneficial court hearing that

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Speaker 1: taken outside of the plane off law firm is exactly

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Speaker 1: what is going on with Donald Trump. DC is basically

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Speaker 1: a rigged jury pool. Fulton County in Atlanta is basically

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Speaker 1: a rigged jury pool. They can get indictments against Republicans

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Speaker 1: affiliated with Donald Trump and Steve Bannon already went through

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Speaker 1: this no matter what basically the evidence is, because they

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Speaker 1: already have a jury pool that is convinced that the

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Speaker 1: people they're investigating or evil. And here is again this

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Speaker 1: jury four person, Emily Cores, who is speaking out about

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Speaker 1: what the grand jury has done here, which you're also

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Speaker 1: not really supposed to do, but they're just putting her

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Speaker 1: on TV anyway, Play fifteen. It's not a short list,

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Speaker 1: so we're talking about more than a dozen people. I

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Speaker 1: would say that, yes, are these recognizable names, names that

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Speaker 1: people would know. There are certainly names that you would recognize. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that there are any giant plot twists coming.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there are any giant plot twists coming,

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Speaker 1: as in Donald Trump is not going to prison over

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Speaker 1: the jury or rather over the election Georgia thing. And

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Speaker 1: yet again I just worry that are First of all,

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Speaker 1: the legal abuse is obvious here. It's a form of

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Speaker 1: lawfare that has been waged against Donald Trump. Stretching back

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Speaker 1: now for years, for as long as he's been in

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Speaker 1: public office or trying to be in public office. It's

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Speaker 1: the abuse of a legal system, really, the destruction I

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Speaker 1: think of clear legal principles. Remember they even seized his

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Speaker 1: lawyers communications at one point when it was they took

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Speaker 1: his passport. Yeah, I mean, the stuff that they have

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Speaker 1: done to Donald Trump has really debased our And by

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Speaker 1: the way, that was why I brought up the TADE issue.

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Speaker 1: You've got an American who is being held for months

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Speaker 1: on end without any due process. There's no due process.

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Speaker 1: So whether you think he's guilty or not, and there's

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Speaker 1: you know, people who are arguing certainly that it seems

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Speaker 1: very suspicious the way the charges have been brought. There's

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Speaker 1: no due process. Donald Trump has suffered process attacks of

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Speaker 1: all kinds. And eventually, what you realize is, even though

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Speaker 1: they're not going to get an indictment, even though they're

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Speaker 1: not going to certainly get a prison sentence, Clay, the

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Speaker 1: process is the punishment. This is what's so unfortunate. They've

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Speaker 1: just used this all along to just try to wrong

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Speaker 1: foot Trump, to harass him. And people say, oh, buck,

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Speaker 1: it's four d chess, he can handle it all. Well,

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Speaker 1: what about the people that were in his White House

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Speaker 1: who had to pay for their own lawyers. What about

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Speaker 1: the twenty five year old staff or who's terrified of

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Speaker 1: you know, Muller trying to entrap them, you know, talk

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Speaker 1: to George Poppadopolis, talked to Carter Page about you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Trump can handle it, but it's more than just Trump

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Speaker 1: that they're going after as well. Yeah, and I think

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Speaker 1: they're going to indict him basically is what she was

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Speaker 1: ducking around there. You have a Fulton County prosecutor who

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Speaker 1: think they are going to indite him. I think I

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Speaker 1: think that in Georgia they're going to indict him. Wow.

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Speaker 1: But now it's gonna be a violation I believe of

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Speaker 1: state law. I don't know what the punishments are gonna be.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a total clown show. I

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Speaker 1: just I mean, based on what this jury four person

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Speaker 1: some sort of way to indict Trump over this. And

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Speaker 1: again politically, the Georgia, Fulton County DA, again Atlanta. For

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Speaker 1: people out there who are not familiar with the state,

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Speaker 1: she wins, right, she's going to her she's going to

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Speaker 1: be the next mayor of Atlanta, or she's gonna run

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Speaker 1: for an office. Yeah. You usually, in a very very

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Speaker 1: high profile, politically charged case, a secutor would not want

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Speaker 1: to bring it unless it was overwhelming and it was

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Speaker 1: very clear and a slam dunk situation. Because you lose

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Speaker 1: a really high profile political case, it looks bad for you.

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Speaker 1: Not the case. To your point here, just bringing the indictment,

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Speaker 1: you're a hero. Just going forward. Just the harassment itself

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Speaker 1: of Trump becomes the end goal, and hey, maybe they

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Speaker 1: can get the uh, you know, the grand prize at

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Speaker 1: the end of an actual guilty verdict from some loop.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you told me you saw this jury jury,

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Speaker 1: four persons grand jury. She's not sitting on an actual

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Speaker 1: jury that would decide anyone's fate where, you know, in

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Speaker 1: terms of innocence or guilt. But kind of a kind

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Speaker 1: and she is either extremely interested in witchcraft or what

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Speaker 1: do they call him, a wicked wicken? Yes, yes, um,

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Speaker 1: And so again she wants Trump, that grand jury wants Trump.

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Speaker 1: I think that they are going to indict Trump. I

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Speaker 1: for some state law violation inside of inside of Georgia.

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Speaker 1: I think that this DA will do it because I

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Speaker 1: think she wins no matter what you called it, on

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Speaker 1: the Special Council appointment. But I also think now we've

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Speaker 1: seen that Special Council about Biden and the documents, sham nothing,

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Speaker 1: no one cares, nothing happens. I Marritt Garland is going

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Speaker 1: to come out and say a pox on both their

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Speaker 1: Julie Kelly was on with US Monday and she said

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Speaker 1: she still thinks Trump's gonna get indicted for January sixth

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Speaker 1: by Jack Smith. So we'll see. I tend to think

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Speaker 1: that this Georgia thing is going to be what what.

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Speaker 1: I just want to point something out, Clay before we

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Speaker 1: move on to some other topics. Here, we left somebody

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Speaker 1: Sexton chuck up a win for Team Reality. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: in Play Travis buck Sexton show. We were just talking

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Speaker 1: about Andrea Mitchell and her false questioning of lorda Well

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Speaker 1: was actually based on Florida Governor Ron De Santas, but

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Speaker 1: she was questioning Kamala Harris, and this is her response

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Speaker 1: to the why that she spread in her question. I

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Speaker 1: haven't even heard this yet. Let's listen. In my interview

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Speaker 1: last Friday with Vice President Harris, I was imprecise in

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Speaker 1: summarizing Governor to Santas's position about teaching slavery in schools.

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Speaker 1: Governor de Santas is not opposed to teaching the fact

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Speaker 1: use of some authors and source materials that historians and

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Speaker 1: teachers say makes it all but impossible for students to

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Speaker 1: understand the broader historic and political context hind slavery and

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Speaker 1: It's aftermath. In the years since, he didn't think that

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Speaker 1: an ap high school course in African American Studies should

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Speaker 1: be focused on CRT and queer theory. That was the

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Speaker 1: actual objection. Andrea Mitchell is still whining because she said,

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Speaker 1: do we have that audio? It's not enough to say

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Speaker 1: I was imprecise. Can we play the audio of her again?

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Speaker 1: She specifically says that you can't teach Slavery and It's

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Speaker 1: Aftermath in Florida, which is a flagrant lie. Let's play

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Speaker 1: that audio. I think Governor Rhnda Santis not know a

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Speaker 1: black history and the black experience when he says that

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Speaker 1: slavery and the aftermath of slavery should not be taught

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Speaker 1: to Florida school children. I mean, this is crazy. So

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Speaker 1: I have a theory, Clay. It's always great to try

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Speaker 1: out my theories to you in real time with you know,

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Speaker 1: a couple of million people listening. But here's my theory.

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Speaker 1: I think that because you know, you just read the

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Speaker 1: Press secretary r for Rhonda santist and his response to

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Speaker 1: this if you what half an hour ago, I think

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Speaker 1: that there's a recognition that the old days where Republicans

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Speaker 1: would just show up and get punched in the face

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Speaker 1: by the media, that's not going to work specifically with

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Speaker 1: Ronda Santis, meaning he's perfectly comfortable just not playing their game.

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Speaker 1: Now Trump, It's very interesting. Trump actually liked to go

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Speaker 1: on offense against the media and was super effective in

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Speaker 1: using the fake news to his benefit in the twenty

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Speaker 1: sixteen election cycle. I think later on in his presidency, though,

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Speaker 1: I would have said, I think he sat down with

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Speaker 1: the New York Times a few too many times Okay.

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Speaker 1: I do think that that's and I believe that people

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Speaker 1: that are ardent Trump supporters would agree with that when

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Speaker 1: they see that it's just, you know, he wasn't outsmarting

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Speaker 1: what's her name, Maggie Haberman, she was just running hit

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Speaker 1: pieces on him day in a day out. I think

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Speaker 1: that De Santis and even some other Republicans, they're not

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Speaker 1: going to let this game be played the way it

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Speaker 1: used to be. Where where oh, NBC News, You'll lie

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Speaker 1: about me and then I'm gonna give you an interview

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Speaker 1: a week later. I don't think so, because Democrats don't

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Speaker 1: do that. By the way, Remember they wouldn't let Fox

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Speaker 1: News host a Democrat debate. They wouldn't let Fox News

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Speaker 1: interview Joe Biden before the president before the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: as is usually the case with the president. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Redfern at the Santist campaign already responding once again.

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Speaker 1: Andrea Mitchell is imprecise in her description because she relies

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Speaker 1: on unnamed historians and teachers. Florida's statute requires the teaching

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Speaker 1: of slavery and its aftermath. We just know that queer

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Speaker 1: studies has nothing to do with Jim Crowe. Good response there,

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Speaker 1: I would also say this, you guys out there listening, No,

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Speaker 1: I love Carry Lake. I think Carry Lake is a

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Speaker 1: stud campaigner. What she did is something that I've been

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Speaker 1: doing for years, and I would encourage every Republican politician

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Speaker 1: to do it. And this would include Donald Trump. Any

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Speaker 1: interview that you do, put out the full transcript of

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Speaker 1: the interview. Don't allow yourself to talk to a reporter

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Speaker 1: for thirty forty five minutes an hour and have them

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Speaker 1: at out kick, so that we can post the full transcript.

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Speaker 1: You guys know, I talk to you every day for

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Speaker 1: three hours. I'm not running from any of any of

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Speaker 1: adopt that as well. Speaking of Trump, Clay he has

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Speaker 1: I think had a real moment here, making a strong

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Speaker 1: move going out to East Palestine, Ohio to visit with

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Speaker 1: I think it's a strong move. I think we should

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