WEBVTT - Did All Lockdowns Save Lives?

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<v Speaker 1>You are entering the freedom hunt. A case study in

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<v Speaker 1>elite Panic San Francisco and the nineteen eighteen flu. Do

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<v Speaker 1>full lockdowns actually save lives? The New York City antibody tests.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got updates for you on that, plus a sting

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<v Speaker 1>operation in Texas for painting nails. General Flynn was set up?

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<v Speaker 1>And why are there no Sunday questions about Biden's sexual

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<v Speaker 1>assault allegation? That and more coming up. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>Buck Sexton Show, where the mission or mission is to

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<v Speaker 1>decode what really matters with actionable intelligence. Make no mistake,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a great American. Again, the Buck Sexton Show begins,

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<v Speaker 1>He's a great guy. Now. I want to review that

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<v Speaker 1>timetable because when I heard Mitchell on the floor the

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<v Speaker 1>other day, he was saying, we have all these things

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<v Speaker 1>in here that we ask for. No you rejected, No,

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<v Speaker 1>you rejected. And speaking of Mitch, what's gotten into him?

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<v Speaker 1>While it's an indication the President is asking people to

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<v Speaker 1>inject lysol into their lungs and Mitch is saying that

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<v Speaker 1>states should go bankrupt, it's a clear visible within twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hours of how the Republicans reject science and reject governance.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't believe in science. They don't believe in governance.

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<v Speaker 1>That's their approach, and we do not. We don't want

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<v Speaker 1>more government that we need, but we know that governance

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<v Speaker 1>has a role, and we know that science has a role,

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<v Speaker 1>and without science in our decision making, we are not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be on a very successful path. Nancy Pelosi

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<v Speaker 1>is a stupid person's idea of what an intelligent politician

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<v Speaker 1>and sounds like welcome to the buck Sex and Show. Everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much for joining. I trust you had

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<v Speaker 1>a relaxing and rejuvenating weekend. At least I hope you did.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of you, I'm sure on the work line doing things,

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<v Speaker 1>making sure that you were on the front lines and

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<v Speaker 1>making sure the food is delivered, making sure that people

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<v Speaker 1>are getting taken care of in hospitals, doing all the

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<v Speaker 1>things that we need to have happening to keep this

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<v Speaker 1>country going. But for the rest of you, I will

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<v Speaker 1>have my thoughts for you on Netflix and some of

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<v Speaker 1>the latest there. But first I want to get into

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<v Speaker 1>where we are right now and this whole process, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Pelosi there telling us about how there's no science,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no governance, or the Republicans, how can someone say

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<v Speaker 1>something that is so devoid of underlying facts that it's

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<v Speaker 1>just so bizarrely disconnected from reality, and no one seems

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<v Speaker 1>to bat an eyelash about it. It's certainly no Democrats do.

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<v Speaker 1>They have no problem with us whatsoever. They view the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing is entire entirely justified. There's no governance, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no science with Republicans. The president is standing up for

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<v Speaker 1>two hours a day. He actually might not be doing

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<v Speaker 1>it quite so much and for so long pretty soon,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think people are feeling like he might be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit overexposed with all this. But the president

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<v Speaker 1>is doing these things, he's having these press conferences, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're claiming that he does not give he does not have,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a governance going on. He doesn't listen to science.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got scientists that are basically running the briefings. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the scientists. They're the ones that are actually doing

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<v Speaker 1>the briefings for the most part. And he just gets

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<v Speaker 1>up there and tries to bring it all together. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is the kind of stupidity that we expect from

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrat left, the same Democrat Left that is put

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<v Speaker 1>now credibly accused sexual assaulter Joe Biden and man who

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<v Speaker 1>is perpetually confused and deeply unimpressive. He's the answer. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>these people are unserious, the Democrats. They've always been unserious.

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<v Speaker 1>They never learn and they will never change. So we

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<v Speaker 1>need to understand that they haven't gotten better because we'ren't

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<v Speaker 1>a crisis. They haven't gotten more honest. This is just

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<v Speaker 1>who they are, so we will have to accept that.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose as much as one can while trying to

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<v Speaker 1>defeat them and do everything we can to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>they do not once again wield power. I had a

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating read for you over the weekend that I picked

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<v Speaker 1>up by James Meigs. I believe I've never heard of

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<v Speaker 1>or read anything by him, and I had to ben dominant.

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<v Speaker 1>You was sharing this from the Federalist. This was in

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<v Speaker 1>commentary magazine though, and it's elite panic versus the resilient

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<v Speaker 1>Populace is the title of piece by James. James Meg's

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<v Speaker 1>here and it's fascinating. It's absolutely fascinating. I highly recommend it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll share it on some of our social platforms so

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<v Speaker 1>you can see this piece. He talks about how in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty four North America had its strongest recorded earthquake

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<v Speaker 1>just off the coast of Alaska on March twenty seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty four, so a month ago today, back in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty four the shaking from the magnet, or a

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<v Speaker 1>month earlier in the year. The shaking from this quake

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<v Speaker 1>was nine point two on the Richter scale, and it

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<v Speaker 1>shook for four and a half minutes. He writes that

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<v Speaker 1>the tectonic forces reshaped Alaska's coastline and triggered tsunamis that

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<v Speaker 1>wiped out villages and claimed lives as far south as California. Anchorage,

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<v Speaker 1>which was the main city, the closest city to the

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<v Speaker 1>epicenter of the earthquake, was home to one hundred thousand people,

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<v Speaker 1>and buildings were just completely destroyed all of our Anchorage,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean just collapsed, caved in. Buildings were rumbling down

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<v Speaker 1>the sides of embankments after there was just earth moving,

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<v Speaker 1>the soil moving beneath them. There was brand new J. C.

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<v Speaker 1>Penny department store that was collapsing in parts of it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just completely falling apart. I've been to Anchorage and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a it's a nice town. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>liked it there and I know we're on KNI, which

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<v Speaker 1>is our wonderful affiliate up and Anchorage that actually comes

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<v Speaker 1>up in this story, so being high five to k

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<v Speaker 1>e N. I are our Anchorage, Alaska affiliate for the

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks X and show. Because back in nineteen sixty four,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the station that people were turning to for information.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the first line for folks in the Anchorage

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<v Speaker 1>area to find out, Hey, what's going on, Who's who's missing?

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<v Speaker 1>Where do they need help? But officials immediately, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is what this piece and commentary magazine talks about. Officials

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<v Speaker 1>began worrying about the response from people. They thought to themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a second, there's going to be looting, There's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be rioting. This is terrible. What can we do?

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<v Speaker 1>And so they deputized a number of people on the spot,

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<v Speaker 1>including giving some of them firearms, to say, hey, prevent

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<v Speaker 1>all this looting in the post disaster environment that we

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<v Speaker 1>think is going to happen. So this is where were

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<v Speaker 1>there were concerns that people would quote behave like frightened

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<v Speaker 1>and unsatisfied children, and that there could be a mass

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<v Speaker 1>outbreak of hysterical neurosis among the civilian population. That was

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<v Speaker 1>what the police and some of the authorities that some

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<v Speaker 1>of the authorities in the city assumed would happen. And

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<v Speaker 1>the author here points out that there are plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>counterexamples in history, the British response during the Blitz in

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<v Speaker 1>World War Two, the Japanese response after the Fukushima nuclear

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<v Speaker 1>reactor disaster, which was initially thought to perhaps be much

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<v Speaker 1>much it was believing much much worse than it ended

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<v Speaker 1>up being in terms of the amount of radiation that

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<v Speaker 1>was let loose, but most the author of this piece

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<v Speaker 1>cites a book. The book is called This is Chance,

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<v Speaker 1>the shaking of an all American city, a voice that

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<v Speaker 1>held it all together. And this is in Anchorage. This

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<v Speaker 1>is about what happened in Anchorage during this period. And Chance,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe, was a radio, TV and radio announcer, Genie Chance,

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<v Speaker 1>a minor celebrity in Alaska. The earthquake caught her in

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<v Speaker 1>her car quote running down a downtown running a downtown

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<v Speaker 1>aaron with her sons. She saw the mangled body in

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<v Speaker 1>the rubble. Cars were buried in debris. One station wagon

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<v Speaker 1>had been crushed almost flat by a concrete slab. Chance

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<v Speaker 1>could hear a woman's voice coming from inside a crowd

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<v Speaker 1>of people was trying to save her, clawing at the slab.

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<v Speaker 1>Then a man stepped forward to organize the effort. Somehow

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<v Speaker 1>two chow trucks were located. They were able to split

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<v Speaker 1>the slab partially into another man climbed into the breach

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<v Speaker 1>with a cunning torch and carved a hole in the

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle's roof. The woman was pulled free, great injured, but alive.

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<v Speaker 1>She would survive. Chance later marveled that all the people

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<v Speaker 1>involved in the operation were mere passers by impromptu volunteers,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet they functioned as a team. Though she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know it at the time, this dynamic was being replicated

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<v Speaker 1>all over the city. Chance made her first broadcast as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as her radio station k E and I came

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<v Speaker 1>back on air. End quote. That's right, Kae and I,

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<v Speaker 1>the same station that folks up in Alaska are listening

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<v Speaker 1>to us on right now up in Anchorage. But that

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<v Speaker 1>was the station that she was able to use to

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<v Speaker 1>get the word out to people about rescue efforts. Now, remember,

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<v Speaker 1>there was the official rescue effort and there was the

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<v Speaker 1>civilian rescue effort that was going on people all over

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<v Speaker 1>Anchorage back in nineteen sixty four doing everything that they

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<v Speaker 1>could to try to save lives, try to pick people

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<v Speaker 1>out of the rubble. And it was impromptu. It was

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<v Speaker 1>on the spot. Chance Quote set up a broadcast desk

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<v Speaker 1>at the Anchorage Public Safety Building, home to the city's

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<v Speaker 1>police and fire department. City employees hurried in and out,

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<v Speaker 1>and civilian volunteers as well. Everyone, it seemed, had a

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<v Speaker 1>message they need a chance to read on the air.

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<v Speaker 1>A high voltage power line is down on Northern Lights Boulevard.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a large crevice on Seward Highway. Both highways out

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<v Speaker 1>of Anchorage or closed. There wasn't much comfort of the

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<v Speaker 1>news Chance and or fellow broadcasts were conveying. But Anchorage

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<v Speaker 1>residents remember those voices as a lifeline. Information one would

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<v Speaker 1>later say, is a form of comfort. Another called k

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<v Speaker 1>E and I our only beacon of light in a

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<v Speaker 1>night of terror end quote. Fascinating, isn't it so? The

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<v Speaker 1>official of response from the authorities was what people would

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<v Speaker 1>call in the disaster study area elite panic. The elites

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<v Speaker 1>right off the bat generally assume, not always, but will

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<v Speaker 1>generally assume that people will react terribly the moment that

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<v Speaker 1>their sense of normalcy is shattered. Otherwise, good, decent, law

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<v Speaker 1>abiding people will either be terrified or will act out

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<v Speaker 1>badly and will not be You cannot count on them

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<v Speaker 1>to do helpful things, and it's up to the authorities

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<v Speaker 1>to make all the decisions for them. I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>starting to see a little bit of a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a comparison here, aren't you. Elite. Panic is when

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<v Speaker 1>the authorities believe that citizens will become dangerous so quote,

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<v Speaker 1>they begin to focus on controlling the public rather than

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<v Speaker 1>on addressing the disaster itself. They clamp down on information,

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<v Speaker 1>restrict freedom of movement, and devote unnecessary energy to enforcing

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<v Speaker 1>laws they assume are about to be broken. These strategies

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<v Speaker 1>don't just waste resources, they also undermine the public's capacity

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<v Speaker 1>for resilient behaviors. In other words, nervous officials can actively

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<v Speaker 1>impede the ordinary people trying to help themselves and their neighbors.

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<v Speaker 1>End quote. Yeah you don't say so. Here, the city

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<v Speaker 1>of Alaska, Vanchorage in Alaska, with a hundred thousand residents

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<v Speaker 1>gets hit with an over nine point oh earthquake, which

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<v Speaker 1>is and absolutely stunningly devastating her Keep pointing to stay earthquake,

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<v Speaker 1>hurricane earthquake. It's stunningly devastating, and yet they were able

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<v Speaker 1>to band together the people of Anchorage with a little

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<v Speaker 1>help of coordination at the top, courtesy of our affiliate

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<v Speaker 1>Ke and I, they were able to direct people. And

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<v Speaker 1>do you know how many ended up actually dying in

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<v Speaker 1>that earthquake? Five? That's obviously a tragedy for those five

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<v Speaker 1>people in their families, but from what could have happened

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<v Speaker 1>given all the people that were picked out of rubble,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really astonishing. But human beings, especially in good, healthy societies,

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<v Speaker 1>which ours is. Despite all the criticisms that we can

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<v Speaker 1>have for America, despite all of our shortcomings here and there, overall,

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<v Speaker 1>we are a good country filled with good people. When

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<v Speaker 1>we're given the opportunity, we will more often than not

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<v Speaker 1>do good things. But the government doesn't always seem to

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<v Speaker 1>think so. And this is how you have sting operations

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<v Speaker 1>against nail salons. This is how people can be chased

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<v Speaker 1>down on the beach for being completely alone and going

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<v Speaker 1>for a jog. This is how you have some of

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<v Speaker 1>the absolutely absurd enforcement of regulations that they say are

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<v Speaker 1>meant to keep us safe, meant to keep us healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>But no serious person could ever think that they would

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<v Speaker 1>have that effect. Why are they doing these things? Why

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<v Speaker 1>are they putting us through this? These are questions that

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<v Speaker 1>we should demand answers too, because right now we're being

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<v Speaker 1>told something that's very troubling. It was a few weeks

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<v Speaker 1>ago that the data, the data dictated that we had

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<v Speaker 1>to do whatever the government told us, and that we

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<v Speaker 1>could not be counted on, We could not be counted

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<v Speaker 1>on to be responsible citizens who would take mitigation measures ourselves,

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<v Speaker 1>allow businesses to adapt and create safer environments, but still

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<v Speaker 1>able to still be able to continue in business. No

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<v Speaker 1>mandates lockdowns across the board, across the country. Well, now

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<v Speaker 1>we have data about those lockdowns, and it does not

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<v Speaker 1>look good for the across the board lockdown chorus. There

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<v Speaker 1>are some places, New York being the most notable one,

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<v Speaker 1>where it might have been justified because of the extreme

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<v Speaker 1>nature of the infection, but even then only justified for

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<v Speaker 1>a short period of time. But in other places the

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<v Speaker 1>lockdown has been, if anything, counterproductive. And if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at Europe where they've had essentially a control group with

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<v Speaker 1>Sweden versus other countries in Europe, Sweden is in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the pack. Sweden is not worse off. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>it's better off on a per capita basis than Italy,

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<v Speaker 1>than Spain, than the UK. It's slightly worse off than

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<v Speaker 1>Finland or Denmark. But they didn't shut down their society.

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<v Speaker 1>And everyone's pointing out of the economic impact of it

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<v Speaker 1>there and saying, well, their economy still got hurt. And

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<v Speaker 1>you hear this now, Well, the economy won't come back

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<v Speaker 1>online because people are too scared. Well, you know, would

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<v Speaker 1>make people less scared if they started to see other

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<v Speaker 1>people go to stores and be okay, and other businesses

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<v Speaker 1>start to operate and life start to return to normal.

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<v Speaker 1>Normal right away, but normal in phases. That has to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where we are, and we need to start having

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<v Speaker 1>authorities give the American people greater latitude to make good decisions,

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<v Speaker 1>to be helpful to each other in our day to

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<v Speaker 1>day lives, and stop this insanity of everything that they

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<v Speaker 1>say must be done and not be questioned because they

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<v Speaker 1>have the answers. They've already shown us they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the answers. They absolutely do not. The data was used

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<v Speaker 1>to tell us stay inside or else weeks ago. Now

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<v Speaker 1>the data shows that in many places and in many

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<v Speaker 1>cases that was not necessary and perhaps counterproductive. Where's the

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<v Speaker 1>focus on that? Now we're all of our so called

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<v Speaker 1>firefighter journos running toward, running toward the flames for the

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<v Speaker 1>betterment of our republic. They got no answers for this,

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<v Speaker 1>do they? We're heading into a different phase, my friends.

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<v Speaker 1>We had we had demands for government action because people

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<v Speaker 1>were scared and the government saw an opportunity to use

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<v Speaker 1>its power. And now we have overreach, ineptitude, and a

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<v Speaker 1>complete lack of accountability for bad decisions that government is making.

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<v Speaker 1>Enough is enough. Let's actually start making some good decisions,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's allow the American people to be a bigger

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<v Speaker 1>part of that process. You're in the freedom Hunt. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the Buck Sex and Show podcast again on this

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful piece in Commentary magazine by James Meigs. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>a fascinating story and I love it. It's at the

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<v Speaker 1>center of it all. I mean, there's the everyday heroes

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<v Speaker 1>who are using blow torches and pickup trucks impromptu. Just oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I happen to have my blow torch in the back.

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<v Speaker 1>I happen to have, you know, earth moving equipment that

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<v Speaker 1>I can use to save somebody from the rubble all

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<v Speaker 1>over Anchorage back in nineteen sixty four. And also, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cool that the coordination and operations center for

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing was our affiliate for the Buck, Sex

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<v Speaker 1>and Stone show an Anchorage, Kae and I, So they

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<v Speaker 1>must feel pretty pretty darn good about that. But but

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<v Speaker 1>there's other other more recent examples to the piece goes

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<v Speaker 1>into the situation in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. There

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<v Speaker 1>there were all these stories about, oh, the horrific violence

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<v Speaker 1>and looting, and there were some bad things that happened there,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, there was also a lot of coming together,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of community in the Cajun Navy was just amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Hundreds of boats. Private citizens are saying, I'm there, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm I'm showing up and I'm helping everybody I

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<v Speaker 1>can help. Hundreds of boats getting people out of floodwaters

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<v Speaker 1>and saving lives and coordinating with And this is not

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<v Speaker 1>to say that first responders are not essentially doing incredible work.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course they are. But while the first responders are

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<v Speaker 1>doing things, there are also a lot of citizens, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of civilians who step up and do important things.

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<v Speaker 1>They often work together and the impulse of authority though,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is this brings us back to elite panic, is, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the people cannot be trusted. You must have a very

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<v Speaker 1>firm hand with them. And this is particularly the impulse

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<v Speaker 1>of unaccountable bureaucracies and regulatory boards and bodies, things like

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<v Speaker 1>the FDA, which in the early days of this coronavirus pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>the FDA slowed down testing because they couldn't figure out

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<v Speaker 1>that the regulations they had were not were not necessary

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<v Speaker 1>given the scope and the problems that we're facing right

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<v Speaker 1>now with coronavirus. They couldn't They couldn't figure it out

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<v Speaker 1>in times, and they slowed down the whole testing process. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>the elites panic, while the people actually try to do

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<v Speaker 1>something to help each other. Remember that thanks for listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the bus sets and show podcasts. Remember to subscribe

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<v Speaker 1>on Apple podcasts, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you

0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:52.119
<v Speaker 1>get your podcasts. No, and it's outrageous for Senator m

0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Accountel to even suggest that the facts of the matter

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<v Speaker 1>is our general fun budget, when adjusted for inflation, is

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<v Speaker 1>the same size it was or an when Richard Nixon

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<v Speaker 1>was our president. We have been incredibly smart stewards. We

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<v Speaker 1>have not made some of the investments I think we

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<v Speaker 1>should have as a state because of you know this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, artificially low number that we've been working with.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact of the matter is that for Senator

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<v Speaker 1>McConnell to suggest that is incredibly dangerous, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that the vast majority of governors in this country,

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<v Speaker 1>Republican and Democratic, would agree with him. He's wrong, and

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<v Speaker 1>we need Congress to step up and help states because

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<v Speaker 1>this pandemic. It's because of this global pandemic that we

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<v Speaker 1>are all having to make tough decisions. We need the

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<v Speaker 1>federal government to have our backs. Governor Whitmer of Michigan

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<v Speaker 1>has become among the best known of the of the

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<v Speaker 1>overreach folks in all of this. I think that's fair

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<v Speaker 1>to say she is somebody who has come to our

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<v Speaker 1>attention for being willing to have the most the most

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<v Speaker 1>petty tyranny in the most obvious ways. As as being

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<v Speaker 1>a governor, you didn't have that interview that Tucker Carlson

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<v Speaker 1>did some weeks ago with the Governor Murphy of New

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<v Speaker 1>Jersey in which he's like, well, that's above my pay grade.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you suspend the Bill of Rights? Governor Murphy well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's above my pay grade. That was the conversation with Tucker,

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<v Speaker 1>And to that one would say, well, no, it's not,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're the governor and you have responsibility to protect

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<v Speaker 1>the Bill of Rights and you cannot override it as

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<v Speaker 1>a state official. But we've seen a lot of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to remind you all now that we

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<v Speaker 1>were told certain things about why we had to just

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<v Speaker 1>accept this. We were told this as a country, we're

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<v Speaker 1>told this for really all fifty states. They're only a

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<v Speaker 1>handful that did not go with statewide lockdowns. And now

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<v Speaker 1>we have more dated, more information, and we're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>forget that we were told things that weren't true, to

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<v Speaker 1>take actions that did not protect us, that did not

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<v Speaker 1>help us or save us. And you would think that

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<v Speaker 1>this would be a point for the jury knows to

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<v Speaker 1>stand up and say, well, hold on a minute, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we need to rethink some of this, But nope, because

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<v Speaker 1>the lockdown consensus has also become very much melded in

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<v Speaker 1>with the anti Trump left and the critics of the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration. So lockdown has become political in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't you can't avoid this. You can't pretend

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<v Speaker 1>that it's not happening, because this is in fact a

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<v Speaker 1>p a primary goal for a lot of the people

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<v Speaker 1>who are pushing for lockdowns across the country to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that the Trump administration suffers, because what they're able

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<v Speaker 1>to do here is they're able to put all the

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<v Speaker 1>blame on Trump, feel like they're saving lives in the process,

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<v Speaker 1>and ensure that there is catastrophic economic damage. Now, people

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<v Speaker 1>could say, well, book, why do they do this, Why

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<v Speaker 1>do they do this in Europe? And I say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>why why do they do this in Europe? Considering that

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<v Speaker 1>European countries are opening up right now, So the lockdown

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<v Speaker 1>forever folks are just wrong. I mean, they're they're not

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<v Speaker 1>doing this in Europe much longer. They are opening up schools,

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<v Speaker 1>they are opening up businesses. And I keep pointing to Sweden,

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<v Speaker 1>not because I have some obsession with Stockholm, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have Stockholm syndrome, But no, because the Swedes

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<v Speaker 1>were the only ones who were able to be a

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<v Speaker 1>control group for all the measures that we were told

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<v Speaker 1>needed to happen. They didn't do it, and they basically

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<v Speaker 1>went through what the countries that did do it, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>the lockdown. They had the very similar outcome, in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>a better outcome than the countries with the most severe restrictions,

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<v Speaker 1>like Italy and Spain. What we really see is, if

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else, by the time the authorities recognize that a

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<v Speaker 1>lockdown is needed, it's too late. And now what we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing is, by the time it's clear or a tribute

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<v Speaker 1>clear to everybody, the lockdown has gone on too long.

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<v Speaker 1>The authorities don't want to lift it. That is where

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<v Speaker 1>we are right now. So this brings me to a

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating piece the Wall Street Journal. Do lockdown save many

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<v Speaker 1>lives in most places? The data say no. The speed

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<v Speaker 1>with which officials shutter the economy appears not to be

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<v Speaker 1>a factor in COVID debts. This is a piece by

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Joe malchow Yannon Weiss, and T. J. Rogers, And

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<v Speaker 1>here's what they say. Here's the basics of it. Sweden.

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<v Speaker 1>Sweden is fighting coronavirus with common sense guidelines that are

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<v Speaker 1>much less economically destructive than the lockdowns in most US states.

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<v Speaker 1>Since people over sixty five account for about eighty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of COVID nineteen debts, Sweden asked only seniors to shelter

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<v Speaker 1>in place, rather than shutting down the rest of the country,

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<v Speaker 1>and Sweden had no pediatric debts. It didn't shut down

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<v Speaker 1>elementary middle schools. Sweden's containment measures are less onerous than Americas,

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<v Speaker 1>so it can keep them in place longer to prevent

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<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen from recurring. Sweden did not shut down stores, restaurants,

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<v Speaker 1>and most businesses, but it did shut down the Volvo

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<v Speaker 1>automotive plant, which has since reopened, while the Tesla plant

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<v Speaker 1>in Fremont, California, were shuttered by police and remains closed.

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<v Speaker 1>How did the Swedes do They suffered eighty deaths per

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<v Speaker 1>million twenty one days after crossing the one per million

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<v Speaker 1>threshold level with ten million people. Sweden's death rate without

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<v Speaker 1>a shutdown and massive unemployment is lower than that of

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<v Speaker 1>the seven hardest hit US states Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Louisiana,

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<v Speaker 1>connect At, Michigan, New York, and New Jersey, all of

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<v Speaker 1>which except Louisiana shut down in three days or less.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite stories about high death rates, Sweden is in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the pack, comparable to France, better than Italy,

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<v Speaker 1>Spain and the UK, worse than Finland, Denmark and Norway,

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<v Speaker 1>and older people in care homes accounted for half of

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<v Speaker 1>Sweden's debts. We should cheer for Sweden to succeed, not

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<v Speaker 1>ghoulishly bash them. They may prove that many aspects of

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<v Speaker 1>the US shutdown were mistakes, ineffective, but ech comically devastating,

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<v Speaker 1>and point the way to correcting them. What do I

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<v Speaker 1>have been telling you all along? How many times have

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<v Speaker 1>you heard me talk about Sweden on this show and

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<v Speaker 1>that there was a rooting against it from people in

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<v Speaker 1>the media. Oh, the Swedes are heading to disaster. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the Swedes are going to learn the most painful, lesson

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<v Speaker 1>reckless what they're doing there. We were pressuring them, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>that the US media, the international news media organizations, they

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<v Speaker 1>were pressuring the Swedes to do what all these other

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<v Speaker 1>countries were doing with the lockdowns. And now we're now

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<v Speaker 1>we're far enough in this and have enough data to

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<v Speaker 1>know that was wrong. There was no bed, there would

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<v Speaker 1>be no benefit for the Swedes to do the lockdown.

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<v Speaker 1>And now people are telling me, well, the economy and

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<v Speaker 1>Sweden has been hit. First of all, Okay, it's been hit.

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<v Speaker 1>Does anyone think that it's Is it a better thing

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<v Speaker 1>or a worse thing for some businesses to be open

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<v Speaker 1>and some businesses to have revenue in economy, better to

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<v Speaker 1>have no businesses open, no revenue. So clearly just applied

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<v Speaker 1>basic sense and logic to this. Clearly it would be

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<v Speaker 1>worse for the economy if they had done with all

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<v Speaker 1>these other places had done, and there is no evidence

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<v Speaker 1>to suggest that it is markedly worse off from a

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<v Speaker 1>health and safety and mortality rate. Is now we have

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<v Speaker 1>we have our control group, and we have our answer.

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<v Speaker 1>We did not need to shut down all fifty states

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<v Speaker 1>in this country. Are close to all fifty states in

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<v Speaker 1>this country with lockdowns. New York probably needed to be

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<v Speaker 1>locked down, perhaps the tri state area in New York,

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey, Connecticut, and they're needed to be precautions put

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<v Speaker 1>in place. House where this is not This is not

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<v Speaker 1>a oh, we don't need mitigation or we don't need

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 1>to take this seriously. Of course not. That's absurd. That's

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:39.440
<v Speaker 1>a straw man. No one really thinks that. No one's

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>arguing for that. But tell people that they can operate businesses.

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Tell people they can't go to parks, they can't go

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 1>into public places where they're able to maintain distance and

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:54.639
<v Speaker 1>they're an open air. It's absurd. We're shutting down parks

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:58.640
<v Speaker 1>at a time when fresh air and open space are

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<v Speaker 1>essential for men till and physical health. There's been so

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 1>much wrong here, and only some people have been willing

0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:08.159
<v Speaker 1>to ask questions along the way. And I'll tell you

0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 1>even I tired after a few days of being told

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>that I don't care about all the death, but I

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:17.399
<v Speaker 1>don't care about you know, a stupid, vicious, just utterly

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:20.359
<v Speaker 1>moronic position that people were taking about anyone who would

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 1>ask questions by looking at the data. Because we make

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>we make decisions as a society all the time about

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:30.439
<v Speaker 1>what is acceptable risk. There's a different thing too than

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:35.440
<v Speaker 1>risk versus the certainty of something happening right, we take

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 1>We let people drive cars, and everyone hates this example.

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh it's not a bad example. We let people drive cars,

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 1>not not not saying okay, well we're going to have

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, we know that the following people are going

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:49.640
<v Speaker 1>to die from this, But we let people drive cars

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 1>knowing that it is possible that people will die from this.

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:55.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, it is possible that there will be additional

0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:59.639
<v Speaker 1>cases and casualties from COVID nineteen once we begin reopening.

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 1>It's also possible that there really aren't, but we're willing

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>to take that risk because of all the factors involved.

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:06.960
<v Speaker 1>This is life, this is how this is how adults

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 1>make decisions. And we know that you can't have a

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 1>lockdown forever. So why do we keep hearing people say,

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>oh no, keep it going as long as you have to.

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 1>There was a transition, they tried to transition the lockdown

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>consensus makers out there at the major news organizations, and

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 1>you know that there was there was this culture of

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 1>the lockdown that you were seeing from celebrities. You know,

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:31.400
<v Speaker 1>here I am in my Malibu mansion and I'm telling

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 1>everybody you must stay lockdown. That's your civic duty. There

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:36.919
<v Speaker 1>was a culture of this that was that was pervasive.

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 1>But initially it was don't allow the hospitals to be overwhelmed.

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, there are hospitals now in New York. Another

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 1>piece in the Wall Street Journal about this Syracuse for example,

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 1>of you know, a good size city in New York State.

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 1>The hospitals are mostly empty, empty, No one can get care,

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 1>no one is able was able to do elective surgeries

0:28:57.000 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 1>of any kind or do preventative preventive visits to the hospital.

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, I mean, I sit here and I wonder,

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, at what point, are we going to be

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 1>able to assess all the people who have teeth rotting

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>out of their head? You know? But you might say, oh,

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 1>who cares about that? Actually, a really bad tooth infection

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>can become very dangerous. People don't necessarily realize this, but

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 1>dental health can turn into like whole body health real fast.

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 1>How many people haven't had preventative cancer screenings. How many

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 1>people haven't had surgeries, you know, earlier interventions that might

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 1>have led to better outcomes as a result of this,

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>there's so many consequences to the shutdown, which was really

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 1>just a policy of panic. Isn't it fascinating? We started

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>out this hour talking about the elites panicking because they

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 1>say we're going to panic, right, That's what elite panic is,

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, the hoi polloi will be raging in

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 1>the streets. What will we ever do? And then their

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>response is what the panic actually comes from? That that

0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>is the panic telling us all to stay home indefinitely

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and not really knowing how they're going to reintegrate us

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:00.480
<v Speaker 1>back into our normal lives. How could you have a

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 1>response more steep and panic than that. It's crazy, isn't it?

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 1>And we now see this, We see the numbers, we

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 1>have the data, and the data does not support what

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 1>we've been told all along we should be doing across

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 1>the board, maybe in New York because we got hit

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:18.239
<v Speaker 1>so badly, because this place where I'm coming to you now,

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm here, I'm living it, I'm around it

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 1>all the time. You know. I tried to go into

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 1>a store last night and my mask wasn't covering my nose,

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 1>it was only covering my mouth, and a guy gave

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 1>me the whole hey, fix your mask thing before I

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>could walk into the store. Now, look, it's a private business,

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I understand, and I'm willing to comply because that's what

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 1>the business has been told to do and they're they're

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>able to set their own regulations. Is a little bit

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 1>like no shoot, pardon me, A little bit like no shirt,

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 1>no shoes, not no to shoot, no shirt, no shoes,

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 1>no service. Well, in New York it's you know, no mask,

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 1>no gloves, no service, or at least no mask, no service,

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 1>gloves or optional. Still, but I don't know how long

0:30:56.960 --> 0:31:02.480
<v Speaker 1>that will last either. So there's this whole movement in

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 1>this city toward making this feel more normal for people

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>you're seeing a lot more of these designer masks and

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of efforts to make it seem like this

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 1>is just the way it's going to be for a

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>very long time, like we're going into the summer, and

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 1>I think people will eventually get very tired of having

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>these things on their faces, especially when they realize that

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>your risk. All I do is read the data and

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 1>in the studies all day long. Your risk from outdoor

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 1>from outdoor transmission of this unless somebody is basically in

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 1>physical contact with you or speaking right into your face

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 1>where you can feel like the heat of their breadth,

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>your risk of physical transmission from this from all the

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 1>studies they have so far outdoors is insignificant. I mean,

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 1>you have risk from everything, right. You have risk of

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>getting terrible staff infection every time you shave and you

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 1>cut yourself and you know you could die from a

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>staff infection, But do you stop shaving? And this is

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 1>this is where we have to remind ourselves that there's

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>no there's no perfect safety. And this reminds me of

0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 1>the conversation we were having as a country after nine

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>eleven and with terrorism. People are saying, well, what do

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>we have to do to make sure this never happens again. Yeah,

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>you can prevent catastrophe with the right measures, or at

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>least you can make it harder for catastrophe like that

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>to occur because of those evil psychopaths of al Qaeda.

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 1>But there's no eliminating all terrorist at acts. We saw

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 1>this with the rise of the Islamic State and all

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 1>the lone wolf attacks. Here there is no perfect safety.

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 1>And if you if you try for perfect safety through

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>state mandates, what you get is the elimination of freedom.

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>And you still have risk. You have risk from whatever

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 1>it is the state says they're protecting you from, but

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>you also have the risk of a state that has

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 1>become almost all powerful, which should terrify people a lot

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 1>more than pretty much anything else we face out there

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 1>in the real world. I mean, a state going tyrannical.

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>If you look at history, you know what, really what

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>really gets the body count very high, tyrannical states. That's

0:32:56.720 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 1>that's worse than worse than pretty much anything we've ever seen.

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the only exception of that might be the

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Spanish flu pandemic of nineteen eighteen, and that is something

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>that's also coming up now in these discussions about mask,

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 1>which I want to I want to transition to for

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 1>a second. You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Buck Sexton Show podcast. You're seeing a lot of this

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 1>pop up now analysis of the pandemic of nineteen eighteen

0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and how San Francisco they say had had this under

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 1>control and then they started to ease, and then it

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 1>all came back and then things got so much worse.

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Notice how the NBC News has a piece on this.

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing it all over the place, though. Notice how

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>the the goal here and shifted. Now it's lockdowns indefinitely

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:55.480
<v Speaker 1>to prevent the second wave. Wait, I thought it was

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>lockdowns to prevent overcrowding of the hospital, and then it

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 1>was just ben the curve. So we have more time

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 1>to figure out more about the disease and allow our

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:07.920
<v Speaker 1>public health, our public health and doctors and so on

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 1>and so forth to get in a better position to

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:13.320
<v Speaker 1>deal with this. And now it's well, no, we have

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 1>to lock down until we figure out how to prevent

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 1>a second wave through test and trace. But the test

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 1>and trace is never going to be anywhere near what

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 1>it needs to be for us to be able to

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>do what they say we need to be able to do,

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 1>which is find out when someone has this and everyone

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 1>they've talked to you right away, and then contain it

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 1>with a three twenty million people in this country. Do

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:33.879
<v Speaker 1>you think the government's going to be Do you think

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:37.839
<v Speaker 1>there's any way they would have enough effectiveness in test

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 1>and trace that that really is that's a that's a

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:45.720
<v Speaker 1>realistic option for us. This is all just people changing,

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 1>constantly changing where the goalposts are on this and now

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 1>preventing a second wave. Here's what happened in San Francisco.

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 1>They talk about the Anti Mask League. You people didn't

0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 1>want to wear masks anymore, and there was all this

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 1>propaganda out there. Quote the man or a woman or

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 1>child who will not wear a mask now is a

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 1>dangerous slacker. A public service announcement from the American Red

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Cross out at the time. This is all in this

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 1>NBC piece. And then there was the Anti Mask League

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:17.320
<v Speaker 1>and the other other people were saying that, you know

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>that masks were not necessary. But here's the problem. They're

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 1>saying that they were flattening the curve, and then it

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 1>came back. Flattening the curve indefinitely is called indefinite lockdown.

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Under the rules that were being set forward for us

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and that destroyed society. We can't do that. So they

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:38.720
<v Speaker 1>need to stop pretending that indefinite lockdown flattens the curve

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>and that means that that's what we're going to do,

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 1>because that's impossible. We're not going to do that. It

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 1>would be not advisable to do that. But there was

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:51.960
<v Speaker 1>a second outbreak here. Look, the states and states and

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 1>cities right now are playing a lot of games with us.

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 1>They're saying they're reopening, but they're really not. They're saying

0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:00.320
<v Speaker 1>that they have a roadmap, but there are afraid to

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 1>enact it. This is why states that live in reality

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 1>and are willing to have leadership that are willing to

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>take appropriate risks and show a little courage here we'll

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:12.920
<v Speaker 1>be what saves us because other states are just going

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 1>to sit on this and sit on this and refuse

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:18.760
<v Speaker 1>to move until states that have taken action are okay,

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 1>which is going to happen. Thanks for listening to the

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Bus Sesson Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast,

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 1>the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. It

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:32.280
<v Speaker 1>bothers me that this is still in the news cycle

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:34.920
<v Speaker 1>because I think we're missing the bigger pieces of what

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:37.719
<v Speaker 1>we need to be doing as an American people to

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 1>continue to protect one another. And we should be having

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 1>that dialogue about asymptomatics. We should be having that dialogue

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:47.400
<v Speaker 1>about this unique clotting that we're seeing. And you know,

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 1>we're the first country that really had young people to

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 1>this degree. Italy and Europe is about eight years older

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 1>than us as a median age. So this is the

0:36:56.200 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 1>first experience of this virus in an open society anywhere

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 1>we really can understand what's happening to every different age groups.

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 1>These are the things that we should be talking about

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 1>and focusing on. So I think as a scientist and

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 1>a public health official and a researcher, sometimes I worry

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:18.360
<v Speaker 1>that we don't get the information to the American people

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:21.239
<v Speaker 1>that they need when we continue to bring up something

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:24.680
<v Speaker 1>that was from Thursday night. Oh you mean the media

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 1>is a bunch of irresponsible hacks. Here's doctor Burke's, who

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure is going to all of a sudden, you're

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 1>going to see a bit of a change in tone

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 1>from Saint Fauci and Saint Burk's to oh well, why

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 1>is Burkes doing Trump's bidding? You already started to see

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:41.759
<v Speaker 1>someone over the weekend. She's a hack just doing what

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Trump says. This woman has worked in public health at

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:48.200
<v Speaker 1>the highest levels for decades, who's been working on saving

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:52.840
<v Speaker 1>people from HIV, particularly in Africa, where millions and millions

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 1>of lives have been saved by HIV prevention efforts. And

0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 1>yet now because she calls out, the media has gotchi games, bullcrap,

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the stuff that we know they're doing. We know they're

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:08.759
<v Speaker 1>doing it, but they're starting to turn on her. They're

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 1>starting to feel like she's not the super genius that

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:13.640
<v Speaker 1>we had all been led to believe when she was

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:16.359
<v Speaker 1>telling us, you know, dealing with what we're effectively worst

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 1>case scenarios on this. They don't. They don't feel quite

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:24.279
<v Speaker 1>the same way about her right now. That's just it's

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 1>just the reminder, folks that the news media, even right now,

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:29.240
<v Speaker 1>in a crisis, you know, America's house is on fire,

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 1>and the news media wants to run stories on how

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:35.280
<v Speaker 1>they don't like, you know, they don't like the house owner,

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:38.360
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, well, what are you guys doing? What

0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>is going on here? They just really can't help it.

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I suppose this is who they are. I mean, they

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:44.800
<v Speaker 1>can't help it. But they they're not going to change.

0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:47.360
<v Speaker 1>This is the reality of the news media that we

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:50.879
<v Speaker 1>are dealing with, and unfortunately this is the media we're

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 1>stuck with. But I want to note that, you know,

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:59.719
<v Speaker 1>some states are beginning to open Tennessee, Missouri, Montana. They're

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 1>the last ones, according to Fox News here that have

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 1>that have taken steps toward opening. And you're going to

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 1>see these states are they're going. I mean, I really

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:09.240
<v Speaker 1>believe they're gonna be okay. Not say it's gonna be perfect,

0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:11.320
<v Speaker 1>but they're gonna be okay. And then you're going to

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:15.200
<v Speaker 1>have more pressure on the blue states. But Red states

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:17.000
<v Speaker 1>are not perfect here either. This is where you get

0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 1>the When I say not perfect, I mean that there

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:21.399
<v Speaker 1>have been things that have happened in some Red states

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:23.320
<v Speaker 1>that are very concerning. This is where you have this story.

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Was it on the on the blaze of a a

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 1>sting operation against women who were trying to women who

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 1>were trying to give nail salon services at home? You know,

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:46.920
<v Speaker 1>a sting operation? Well, you don't say that's really a

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 1>good usage of police resources, isn't it. That's really something

0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:53.879
<v Speaker 1>that's worth worth people doing trying to trying to paint

0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:57.400
<v Speaker 1>people's nails for them, So the police set up people

0:39:57.600 --> 0:39:59.759
<v Speaker 1>undercover to make sure they get the get the women

0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:02.240
<v Speaker 1>who we're trying to make a living by painting people's

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 1>nails at their homes. This is so stupid, it's so absurd,

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:08.920
<v Speaker 1>But we see this happening. We see this happening in

0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 1>state after state, time after time, and it's because that

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 1>there's a there's a mentality here. There are there are

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 1>people who are in positions of authority. There are people

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:21.800
<v Speaker 1>who believe that they are the ones that have to

0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:24.239
<v Speaker 1>tell us how we deal with this and what they're real,

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 1>what acceptable risks are and what are not. And they

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 1>do not like challenges to their authority. They do not

0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:34.640
<v Speaker 1>want to hear about how Sweden is doing well. They

0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:36.480
<v Speaker 1>don't want to hear even about other states that are

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 1>reopening that have not had anywhere near the cases we

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:40.920
<v Speaker 1>have in the US. You know what, I also think

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 1>a part of this is that everyone recognizes that our

0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:48.560
<v Speaker 1>experts in the scientific community so far we've had mixed

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 1>results at best with the therapeutics that we have available

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 1>to us right now. Who knows if a vaccine is

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:58.359
<v Speaker 1>going to be particularly effective and how soon it will

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>be effective how soon we'll actually have one, So waiting

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:04.799
<v Speaker 1>for medicine to save is I do think that there

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:06.920
<v Speaker 1>was and look, I'm guilty of this in my own

0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 1>my own head. I just the idea that we might

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 1>be able to go back to living normal lives sooner

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 1>because of some huge breakthrough on what could be sweeter,

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 1>what could be greater than that? Right? But no, No,

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:22.800
<v Speaker 1>the same same medical community that can't cure the common

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 1>cold is going to have a challenging time with this.

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:27.400
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you that right now, medical researchers around

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the world that look, I don't know the first thing

0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:31.560
<v Speaker 1>about any of this, and this is not my area,

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 1>but I'm just telling you, if we're waiting for the

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:36.240
<v Speaker 1>experts in this realm to just give us the silver bullet,

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be waiting a very long time, and our

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:40.680
<v Speaker 1>whole society, our whole way of life, will deteriorate around

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:43.320
<v Speaker 1>us while we're playing that waiting game. We can't do that.

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 1>You absolutely cannot allow that to be the way that

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 1>this goes forward. So then we also have the left

0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 1>and their complaints about all of this, which are I

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:04.480
<v Speaker 1>have to just say, are are stunning, absolutely stunning. Here's

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Nancy Pelosi. And this is a great Pelosi moment in

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 1>that it really distills the esthens of Nancy Pelosi. She's

0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:14.360
<v Speaker 1>so shameless, and if we had a real press that

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:17.800
<v Speaker 1>was oppositional and was that was interested in truth, Pelosi

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:19.880
<v Speaker 1>would be scared to go on any of these shows

0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:23.360
<v Speaker 1>because she would just get constantly blasted for all of

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 1>the misdirection, all the lies, all of the just most

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 1>blatant political crap that she pulls. But instead, she knows

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 1>that she's going into friendly territory all the time, with

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 1>the exception of when when she's on Fox News. And

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember the last time Pelosi was on a

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Fox News show. Maybe she does the Sunday shows because

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Chris Wallace is a very kind of, you know, neutral

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:51.680
<v Speaker 1>centrist interviewer, but I don't I don't know that she's

0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:53.840
<v Speaker 1>done any of the other Fox News shows recently, because

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 1>she's obviously not going to subject herself to having anyone

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:00.160
<v Speaker 1>ask a question about what a huge fraud she is

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 1>and all of this. But here's Pelosi on the Remember

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 1>you have to remember, you have to remember the timeline here.

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Pelosi was opposed initially to Trump's China travel restriction, said

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:14.839
<v Speaker 1>that it wasn't it was you know, racist, wasn't good.

0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna you know, it's not gonna, it's not worth it.

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 1>We shouldn't be doing this. She was a terrible idea.

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 1>And now her criticism is effectively, well, it wasn't enough,

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:27.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, it wasn't enough. That that's the shift that

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Nancy Pelosi has made here play clip three. Actually tens

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:36.680
<v Speaker 1>of thousands of people were still allowed in from China,

0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 1>so it wasn't as it is described as this great moment.

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:46.400
<v Speaker 1>There were Americans coming back or Green cardholders coming back,

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:49.200
<v Speaker 1>but there were tens of thousand. So if you're going

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 1>to shut the door because you have an evaluation of

0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:59.279
<v Speaker 1>an epidemic, then shut the door. Oh oh, so it

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't strong enough is her complaint. Now, and here's the

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:05.040
<v Speaker 1>problem that Nancy Pelosi has in making this case. Do

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what we call those tens of thousands of

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Americans who are coming back from China? Americans? So she

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't understand these are citizens and Green card holders. You're

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:17.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell them they can't come back to their home country. Now,

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:19.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe we should have put them into quarantine right away.

0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:23.560
<v Speaker 1>But hindsight is twenty twenty. But could you imagine the

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:26.480
<v Speaker 1>outrage from Nancy Pelosi. I don't just mean in general,

0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:31.000
<v Speaker 1>imagine the outrage from Nancy Pelosi if when all this

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:33.920
<v Speaker 1>was going on, the President had said, well, if you

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:35.800
<v Speaker 1>are coming back from China, obviously we're gonna have a

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 1>fair number of people who are Chinese Americans who are

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 1>coming back from travel there, who are citizens or green

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 1>card holders. And if you come back and you know,

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 1>you're not allowed to come back, never mind even putting

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:48.239
<v Speaker 1>into quarantine right away, you're not allowed to come back.

0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Find somewhere else to live while we figured this out.

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 1>First of all, it's not I don't even know how

0:44:52.800 --> 0:44:55.400
<v Speaker 1>you'd deal with the constitutionality of that. I mean, you

0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 1>get a lot of problems, you'd have a lot of issues.

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:03.719
<v Speaker 1>But that's now Pelosi's claim what was unnecessary and severe

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:07.520
<v Speaker 1>is now not severe enough. And she acts like she

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:09.600
<v Speaker 1>knew this all along and she has all the answers.

0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Just appalling. I mean, she is a truly appalling and

0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:19.360
<v Speaker 1>really deranged by politics at this point, but she manages

0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:22.360
<v Speaker 1>to still say this stuff. She manages to continue to

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 1>just make these claims and does not get any of

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 1>the pushback that you would expect does not get anyone,

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:32.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, asking her real question. I shouldn't say that

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:34.080
<v Speaker 1>you would expect that you would hope for if we

0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:36.120
<v Speaker 1>had a serious press corps, but we simply don't. But

0:45:36.200 --> 0:45:40.480
<v Speaker 1>then again, Adam Schiff could also run around saying stuff

0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:43.279
<v Speaker 1>like this. You remember, this guy is in the House

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:45.839
<v Speaker 1>Intelligence Committee. He tried to he was the point man

0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:47.759
<v Speaker 1>on the pre on the impeachment of the President, which

0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:52.320
<v Speaker 1>was just a disgusting exercise. Here's shift place sixteen. I

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:54.680
<v Speaker 1>don't think we had any idea how much damage she

0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:56.880
<v Speaker 1>would go on to do in the months ahead. There

0:45:56.960 --> 0:46:00.759
<v Speaker 1>are fifty thousand Americans now who are dead, in significant

0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:04.480
<v Speaker 1>part because of his incompetence, because of his inability to

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:07.600
<v Speaker 1>think beyond himself and put the country first. I don't

0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 1>think we would have ever anticipated that his brand of

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:15.040
<v Speaker 1>narcissism and his brand of incompetence, sometimes his brand of

0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:18.800
<v Speaker 1>malevolence would be so fatal to the American people. But probably,

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:22.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, the strongest echo of what we were talking

0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 1>about during the trial was when he was earlier talking

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 1>about how he didn't want to return the calls from governers.

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:30.920
<v Speaker 1>He didn't want his vice president to return calls from

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:34.799
<v Speaker 1>governors that weren't saying nice things about him, that really

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:37.040
<v Speaker 1>weren't saying things about him that he could then turn

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:41.600
<v Speaker 1>into campaign commercials, as indeed he has. That was such

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:45.360
<v Speaker 1>a profound and disturbing echo of what he tried to

0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:48.800
<v Speaker 1>do with Ukraine. So sadly, you know, as we pointed

0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:51.280
<v Speaker 1>out during the trial, a man with no moral compass

0:46:51.320 --> 0:46:54.160
<v Speaker 1>will never find his way, and this president certainly hasn't.

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Does anyone think that Adam Schiff has a moral compass?

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Adam Schiff might be to slimy, most dishonest person in

0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:03.839
<v Speaker 1>the entire United States Congress, which is a remarkable feat.

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:08.320
<v Speaker 1>And now that's a truly stunning accomplishment for somebody to have,

0:47:08.480 --> 0:47:11.560
<v Speaker 1>given how many liars and how many disgraces are in

0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 1>the Congress. But he's also he sounds like a crazy

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:17.719
<v Speaker 1>person here. Yeah, Trump is a responsi for fifty thousand deaths.

0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Notice the problem they they will have as they continue

0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:25.320
<v Speaker 1>this line of really just gutter attack, I mean just

0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:30.880
<v Speaker 1>the grossest, most underhanded, most despicable politics. Are all of

0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 1>the European countries, are all their prime ministers guilty of

0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:35.799
<v Speaker 1>murder too. Do they all have blood on their hands?

0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:38.600
<v Speaker 1>In fact, find me a major country does. Does any

0:47:38.680 --> 0:47:40.400
<v Speaker 1>government not have blood on its hands? And at what

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:42.719
<v Speaker 1>point if every government has blood on its hands, what

0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:45.680
<v Speaker 1>does that even really mean other than governments can't protect you.

0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Governments are incompetent by their nature. They are going to

0:47:49.480 --> 0:47:52.839
<v Speaker 1>disappoint you. If you think that a government is there

0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:54.919
<v Speaker 1>to be your friend and keep you safe, you're wrong.

0:47:55.160 --> 0:47:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't matter who the leader is, that's not the function

0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:01.320
<v Speaker 1>of government. They do. It does what it can in

0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:03.600
<v Speaker 1>this case to try to protect this but it's always

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:06.080
<v Speaker 1>going to disappoint you. It's never going to be enough.

0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:10.959
<v Speaker 1>But you won't hear that from the Democrats. You won't

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:15.239
<v Speaker 1>hear that. Instead, you'll hear the usual attacks about how

0:48:15.320 --> 0:48:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Trump is completely and utterly bereft of any moral compass,

0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 1>and he's a terrible person, and he's responsible for all this. Meanwhile,

0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:29.200
<v Speaker 1>they offer up none other than Joe Biden as the

0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:32.640
<v Speaker 1>answer here, as if Joe Biden would do such a

0:48:32.719 --> 0:48:35.040
<v Speaker 1>better job figuring all this out. Oh oh, and in

0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:40.480
<v Speaker 1>case you're wondering now, Pelosi has in fact endorsed Joe Biden. Oh,

0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:43.799
<v Speaker 1>this is a this is a big one, folks. Ooh,

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:45.759
<v Speaker 1>this is really going to move the needle play at

0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Mark today. I am proud to endorse Joe Biden for

0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:53.120
<v Speaker 1>President of the United States because he will be an

0:48:53.200 --> 0:49:00.279
<v Speaker 1>extraordinary president. He knows how to get the job done. Yeah,

0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:04.320
<v Speaker 1>that's right, Joe Biden. That's who they say, we do

0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:08.000
<v Speaker 1>a better. We're dealing with an enormously complicated issue, really

0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:12.160
<v Speaker 1>a once in a century pandemic. And if only the

0:49:12.320 --> 0:49:15.040
<v Speaker 1>guy who talks about the weird blonde hairs on his

0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:18.800
<v Speaker 1>legs and sniffs women's heads, by his own admission and

0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:22.759
<v Speaker 1>by photographic evidence, and now has a completely credible and

0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I really mean credible sexual assault allegation against him from

0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:30.759
<v Speaker 1>when he was a United States senator. That's the person

0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:33.800
<v Speaker 1>the Democrats are telling you, if only he were in charge,

0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:37.520
<v Speaker 1>this would all be so much better. They can't really

0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:40.319
<v Speaker 1>believe this, but we know that it doesn't matter whether

0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:42.279
<v Speaker 1>they believe it or not. It's useful to them right now.

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:45.799
<v Speaker 1>What is the only principle the Democratic Party holds firm

0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:48.600
<v Speaker 1>to the pursuit of power, which is not really a principle.

0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:50.719
<v Speaker 1>That's the only thing they really care about. Everything else

0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:54.560
<v Speaker 1>is pushed aside at a moment's notice, anything else is

0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:59.120
<v Speaker 1>completely disposable. I mean Nancy Pelosi and morality. That's that's funny, right,

0:49:59.200 --> 0:50:02.239
<v Speaker 1>that's a joke. But I want to talk about how

0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:04.920
<v Speaker 1>the media is trying to handle the fact that now

0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:09.040
<v Speaker 1>the word is out and after all this stuff against Kavanaugh.

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:11.080
<v Speaker 1>And we will talk a little bit more about the

0:50:11.200 --> 0:50:14.320
<v Speaker 1>general Flint situation too, because we're getting more answers about this.

0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh you you're humble conservative hosts like yours truly and

0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 1>among others. Somehow, we've been right on Russia collusion, We've

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:24.280
<v Speaker 1>been right on General Flynn, we were right on Kavanna,

0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:26.480
<v Speaker 1>right on these things all along, and the facts, additional

0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:29.759
<v Speaker 1>facts after those fights were had in public, proved that

0:50:29.840 --> 0:50:33.600
<v Speaker 1>to be the case. But do you see any any

0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:37.800
<v Speaker 1>penance from the media whatsoever about their efforts to destroy

0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:40.520
<v Speaker 1>these people. Do you see anyone caring about how wrong

0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:44.360
<v Speaker 1>they've been all along on the the mainstream media. No,

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:47.000
<v Speaker 1>of course not, because they knew that they were serving

0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:48.759
<v Speaker 1>a purpose at the time. That was what mattered. But

0:50:49.120 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 1>let's let's take a look at the Joe Biden situation.

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<v Speaker 1>You're in the freedom hunt. This is the buck sex

0:50:56.640 --> 0:51:04.399
<v Speaker 1>and show podcast. You will recall during the Kavanaugh destruction

0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:08.759
<v Speaker 1>effort by the media, you will recall that there was

0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:14.840
<v Speaker 1>no evidence whatsoever of contemporaneous corroboration. In fact, the effort

0:51:14.880 --> 0:51:20.359
<v Speaker 1>to destroy Kavanaugh revolved entirely around women who had increasingly

0:51:20.680 --> 0:51:27.799
<v Speaker 1>implausible claims of sexual assault, starting with the least obviously

0:51:27.920 --> 0:51:30.319
<v Speaker 1>false that you called that with Christine Blasiford, and then

0:51:30.400 --> 0:51:33.920
<v Speaker 1>going over to Deborah Ramirez and I can say this,

0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:37.399
<v Speaker 1>if you were in college and somebody put their their

0:51:37.480 --> 0:51:40.120
<v Speaker 1>genitalia in your face, I don't think you would need,

0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:43.600
<v Speaker 1>as she claimed she did a week of coaching by

0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:46.520
<v Speaker 1>lawyers to help you figure out if, in fact that

0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:50.759
<v Speaker 1>thing happened to you. That strikes me as highly implausible.

0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:53.520
<v Speaker 1>But that was what we were told, and also other

0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:55.600
<v Speaker 1>people that were there at Yale University at the time

0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:58.360
<v Speaker 1>remembered no such incident, did not believe that it happened,

0:51:58.760 --> 0:52:01.239
<v Speaker 1>no corroboration whatsoever. And then you got to the Julie

0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Sweatne case, where the media was willing to with no

0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:07.360
<v Speaker 1>again evidence of any kind other than a clearly delusional

0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:10.640
<v Speaker 1>person seeking attention. And there were others. As I've told you,

0:52:10.680 --> 0:52:12.279
<v Speaker 1>there were women who came forward who said that Brett

0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:14.000
<v Speaker 1>kavanol raped them on a boat in a state he

0:52:14.040 --> 0:52:16.759
<v Speaker 1>had never been to. So there were people who came forward.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we were being told in this instance that

0:52:19.120 --> 0:52:21.279
<v Speaker 1>women have a right to be believed, and there were

0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:24.319
<v Speaker 1>women who lied as a matter of record, because that's

0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:27.440
<v Speaker 1>why the Senate Democrats didn't even produce those allegations. There

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:29.719
<v Speaker 1>were people who this was an all hands on deck

0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:33.719
<v Speaker 1>effort to destroy a person who was viewed as a

0:52:33.880 --> 0:52:37.480
<v Speaker 1>threat to Roe v. Wade, as a threat to the

0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:41.359
<v Speaker 1>liberals preferred composition of the Supreme Court. So it wasn't

0:52:41.360 --> 0:52:45.640
<v Speaker 1>anything goes situation. It wasn't anything goes moment. But even

0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:48.520
<v Speaker 1>blasi Ford was never even able to prove that she

0:52:48.680 --> 0:52:54.040
<v Speaker 1>had met met Brett Kavanaugh. Never no record of anyone

0:52:54.120 --> 0:52:56.040
<v Speaker 1>saying that they ever hung out, knew each other, were

0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:58.359
<v Speaker 1>even in the same room. She claims that she went

0:52:58.440 --> 0:53:00.080
<v Speaker 1>to a party, that she did not know how she

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:02.560
<v Speaker 1>got there, who invited her, where the house was, what

0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:05.400
<v Speaker 1>house it was, and that he attacked her, and that

0:53:05.480 --> 0:53:07.080
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't know how she got home or who picked

0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:09.160
<v Speaker 1>her up or anything else, and she thought it was

0:53:09.200 --> 0:53:13.040
<v Speaker 1>the wrong year also, which is left out of all

0:53:13.080 --> 0:53:15.879
<v Speaker 1>of that too. Oh okay, so pretty much every fact

0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:18.560
<v Speaker 1>she had was either not a fact or was wrong.

0:53:19.200 --> 0:53:21.200
<v Speaker 1>But she knew it was Brett Kavanaugh. Couldn't have been

0:53:21.239 --> 0:53:23.960
<v Speaker 1>someone else, couldn't have been some other guy that was,

0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:25.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, grabbing at her when he was drunk at

0:53:25.719 --> 0:53:28.719
<v Speaker 1>this party, which the thing that know happens all too often.

0:53:28.760 --> 0:53:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is part of the problem is that

0:53:31.320 --> 0:53:33.799
<v Speaker 1>this is that there are far too many people who

0:53:33.960 --> 0:53:38.040
<v Speaker 1>are victims of this kind of conduct, and when someone

0:53:38.120 --> 0:53:41.239
<v Speaker 1>comes forward with a politically charged allegation that does not

0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:45.200
<v Speaker 1>have any facts behind it, it does affect perception of

0:53:45.280 --> 0:53:47.040
<v Speaker 1>how often people are telling the truth with this. It

0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:50.799
<v Speaker 1>just does. So it's wrong. It hurts real survivors when

0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:54.000
<v Speaker 1>this happens, when people say things that are clearly untrue.

0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:56.440
<v Speaker 1>For reasons that we all understand. Right, this was a

0:53:56.520 --> 0:54:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court seat, and this was considered a sacred duty

0:54:01.080 --> 0:54:03.560
<v Speaker 1>of women on the left to try and destroy Kavanaugh.

0:54:04.040 --> 0:54:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Here's the problem now with the Joe Biden situation as

0:54:06.920 --> 0:54:11.000
<v Speaker 1>we know it. The problem is that there is now

0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:14.759
<v Speaker 1>not only an allegation that is credible that relies on

0:54:15.960 --> 0:54:19.960
<v Speaker 1>already established contact between the two of them, there's what

0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:26.040
<v Speaker 1>we believe is video and audio evidence of contemporaneous corroboration.

0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:30.240
<v Speaker 1>And not only that, but CNN had it in its archives.

0:54:30.880 --> 0:54:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll bring you up to speed on this at a moment.

0:54:33.880 --> 0:54:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening to the Bus Sesson Show podcast. Remember

0:54:37.400 --> 0:54:41.120
<v Speaker 1>to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever

0:54:41.280 --> 0:54:44.600
<v Speaker 1>you get your podcasts. So here's where we are with

0:54:44.719 --> 0:54:47.880
<v Speaker 1>with the Democrat nominee for the presidency, Joe Biden. As

0:54:47.920 --> 0:54:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I've already told you, the way that the media, the

0:54:52.680 --> 0:54:56.200
<v Speaker 1>national press treated the Kavanaugh situation was that any allegation

0:54:56.239 --> 0:54:58.280
<v Speaker 1>against him was to be believed, no matter how flimsy

0:54:58.320 --> 0:55:00.840
<v Speaker 1>it was in terms of evidence, or even how not

0:55:01.080 --> 0:55:06.600
<v Speaker 1>credible it would seem at first at first look. And

0:55:06.920 --> 0:55:08.800
<v Speaker 1>that was a situation where there were there were a

0:55:08.880 --> 0:55:12.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of people that said that they didn't believe it

0:55:12.239 --> 0:55:14.360
<v Speaker 1>had happened, or that they couldn't give corroboration for it,

0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:16.880
<v Speaker 1>there was no evidence that could be presented. But the

0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:19.840
<v Speaker 1>standard was not only should a woman a woman have

0:55:19.880 --> 0:55:21.560
<v Speaker 1>a right to be believe. The standard was that if

0:55:21.600 --> 0:55:25.239
<v Speaker 1>there's even a doubt that is created about this person's ability,

0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:30.560
<v Speaker 1>if there is any doubt whatsoever, then ability to do

0:55:30.640 --> 0:55:33.880
<v Speaker 1>this job you credibly and in the eyes of the public,

0:55:34.200 --> 0:55:36.920
<v Speaker 1>then we deserve something better, so that person should step down.

0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:39.759
<v Speaker 1>That was the standard for Kavanaugh, that the media is

0:55:39.840 --> 0:55:41.719
<v Speaker 1>set up and that we were told we should all

0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:44.800
<v Speaker 1>adhere to. How can that now not be the standard

0:55:44.800 --> 0:55:46.440
<v Speaker 1>if it's for a Supreme Court justice, how can it

0:55:46.520 --> 0:55:48.600
<v Speaker 1>not be the standard for a president? Now? We all

0:55:48.680 --> 0:55:50.920
<v Speaker 1>know that they covered up stuff with Bill Clinton for

0:55:50.920 --> 0:55:53.000
<v Speaker 1>a long time too, that Bill Clinton was credibly accused,

0:55:53.760 --> 0:55:58.160
<v Speaker 1>credibly accused of rape. We know that right that that

0:55:58.320 --> 0:56:00.520
<v Speaker 1>is on the record, that has been long established. Media

0:56:00.560 --> 0:56:04.279
<v Speaker 1>didn't care. But now in they Post me too era,

0:56:04.880 --> 0:56:11.440
<v Speaker 1>when they were so clear, so definite, and what the

0:56:11.600 --> 0:56:15.600
<v Speaker 1>standards were for gate for gauging this kind of conduct,

0:56:15.640 --> 0:56:18.120
<v Speaker 1>for deciding what should happen and what's beliefable and what's not.

0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:21.760
<v Speaker 1>They're willing to toss this all out because of politics.

0:56:21.840 --> 0:56:24.560
<v Speaker 1>We know this. Here's the problem that they currently have

0:56:24.680 --> 0:56:26.840
<v Speaker 1>to deal with. And they're going to go through a

0:56:26.920 --> 0:56:31.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of supposed soul searching and processing, and they're gonna

0:56:31.760 --> 0:56:33.520
<v Speaker 1>use a lot of fancy words that mean one thing

0:56:33.560 --> 0:56:35.560
<v Speaker 1>and one thing only. They're not gonna do squat about

0:56:35.600 --> 0:56:37.279
<v Speaker 1>this they're not gonna do anything about it. They're just

0:56:37.320 --> 0:56:39.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna say, oh, yeah, we talked about it, we covered it.

0:56:39.280 --> 0:56:40.840
<v Speaker 1>We covered it in the back of the newspaper. We

0:56:41.200 --> 0:56:43.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't mention it on air on TV. But sure, yeah, no,

0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:46.680
<v Speaker 1>we covered it. We're still looking, We're still researching. They're

0:56:46.680 --> 0:56:49.560
<v Speaker 1>going to be researching Joe Biden's sexual assault allegations in

0:56:49.640 --> 0:56:52.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty years, meaning they're never going to really research it.

0:56:52.960 --> 0:56:54.680
<v Speaker 1>They're just gonna keep saying that, oh no, we're still

0:56:54.719 --> 0:56:57.000
<v Speaker 1>looking at it, still trying to figure stuff out. Here's

0:56:57.000 --> 0:56:58.520
<v Speaker 1>a problem though, you know, we were also told a

0:56:58.600 --> 0:57:02.200
<v Speaker 1>contemporary corroboration is meaningful, right because at least that establishes

0:57:02.840 --> 0:57:06.320
<v Speaker 1>that the person did not, as I believe the kavanauc

0:57:06.440 --> 0:57:09.360
<v Speaker 1>users did, come up out of nowhere with I'm going

0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:12.040
<v Speaker 1>to be a hero to women, to the women's movement

0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:14.520
<v Speaker 1>to the left by destroying this guy before he can

0:57:14.560 --> 0:57:16.800
<v Speaker 1>be on the Supreme Court. And so they just made

0:57:16.880 --> 0:57:18.520
<v Speaker 1>up stories. People that knew him from his life, but

0:57:18.560 --> 0:57:23.480
<v Speaker 1>they just made it up. The problem that Biden has

0:57:23.600 --> 0:57:26.640
<v Speaker 1>is that this isn't somebody who just made it up.

0:57:26.720 --> 0:57:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Now because she doesn't want Biden to be president, this

0:57:30.120 --> 0:57:33.040
<v Speaker 1>is somebody who according to what we now have as

0:57:33.280 --> 0:57:38.960
<v Speaker 1>at least circumstantial evidence. According to circumstantial evidence, she was

0:57:39.000 --> 0:57:41.320
<v Speaker 1>telling people about this at the time, and all the

0:57:41.440 --> 0:57:43.720
<v Speaker 1>timeline all matches up for when she left the job

0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:49.959
<v Speaker 1>and what she did next. Here is audio of terror

0:57:50.040 --> 0:57:55.439
<v Speaker 1>Reid's mother back in nineteen ninety three allegedly calling into

0:57:55.560 --> 0:58:01.160
<v Speaker 1>CNN to discuss how her daughter was something bad happened

0:58:01.160 --> 0:58:04.520
<v Speaker 1>to her and it was from a prominent politician. Here

0:58:05.000 --> 0:58:07.720
<v Speaker 1>this is what the audio of it sounds like. Playcliff

0:58:07.760 --> 0:58:10.600
<v Speaker 1>two back a couple more phone calls on this very

0:58:10.640 --> 0:58:13.720
<v Speaker 1>important topic. Our guests are former United States Senator Howard Baker,

0:58:14.320 --> 0:58:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Richard Allen, former National Security advisor, and Lois Romano of

0:58:18.520 --> 0:58:23.439
<v Speaker 1>The Washington Post, San Luis Obispo, California. Hello, Yeah, Hello,

0:58:24.520 --> 0:58:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering what a staffer would to do besides go

0:58:30.640 --> 0:58:33.480
<v Speaker 1>to the press in Washington. My daughter has just left

0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:36.400
<v Speaker 1>there after working for a prominent senator and could not

0:58:36.520 --> 0:58:38.920
<v Speaker 1>get through with her problems at all. And the only

0:58:38.960 --> 0:58:41.280
<v Speaker 1>thing she could have done was go to the press,

0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:43.080
<v Speaker 1>and she chose not to do it out of respect

0:58:43.120 --> 0:58:45.800
<v Speaker 1>for you, or she had a story to tell, but

0:58:45.920 --> 0:58:48.040
<v Speaker 1>out of respect for the person she worked for. She

0:58:48.120 --> 0:58:51.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't tell them, that's true. But these are the people

0:58:51.320 --> 0:58:53.600
<v Speaker 1>who do come to the lowest romanos, right the staff

0:58:53.640 --> 0:58:55.360
<v Speaker 1>worker who says, I want to let you know about

0:58:55.400 --> 0:58:58.680
<v Speaker 1>what's going on down the hall. And a lot of

0:58:58.720 --> 0:59:01.240
<v Speaker 1>these people had a sense of applegate. They feel that

0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:05.600
<v Speaker 1>this public officials should be accountable if it's something blowers

0:59:05.640 --> 0:59:10.000
<v Speaker 1>to the president. Guess where Tara Reid's mother was living

0:59:10.000 --> 0:59:12.600
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety three when that phone call was made

0:59:12.680 --> 0:59:18.600
<v Speaker 1>to the Larry King Show, San Luis Obispo, California. Guess

0:59:18.720 --> 0:59:22.040
<v Speaker 1>when Tara Reid had just left her job right around then.

0:59:23.240 --> 0:59:26.440
<v Speaker 1>People who have heard, including Tara Reid have heard the audio, said, yep,

0:59:26.480 --> 0:59:29.000
<v Speaker 1>that's Tara Reid's mother. So what are we to make

0:59:29.040 --> 0:59:32.400
<v Speaker 1>of this? She clearly had a problem with Biden back then.

0:59:32.840 --> 0:59:34.760
<v Speaker 1>It made her leave her job, and it was so

0:59:34.920 --> 0:59:37.200
<v Speaker 1>troubling that even her mother was calling into Larry King

0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Show to say, I'm more. You know, this is the situation.

0:59:39.880 --> 0:59:41.440
<v Speaker 1>So she didn't just come up with this story now

0:59:41.480 --> 0:59:43.320
<v Speaker 1>because she doesn't want Biden to be president and she

0:59:43.400 --> 0:59:45.680
<v Speaker 1>likes Trump. In fact, I'll understand she's a Democrat, but

0:59:46.520 --> 0:59:49.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that won't get that won't get much play.

0:59:50.440 --> 0:59:52.920
<v Speaker 1>So what do the Democrats do about this? You know

0:59:52.960 --> 0:59:54.680
<v Speaker 1>what's funny is we all know what they're going to do,

0:59:54.760 --> 0:59:58.640
<v Speaker 1>which is nothing. This will just this will just be

0:59:58.760 --> 1:00:00.960
<v Speaker 1>treated like it. It's a thing that we all know

1:00:01.160 --> 1:00:05.320
<v Speaker 1>but cannot be spoken of, can't talk about. This doesn't

1:00:05.360 --> 1:00:08.760
<v Speaker 1>have any residents, doesn't have any impact or power. Joe

1:00:08.800 --> 1:00:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Biden has to beat Donald Trump. That's all that matters.

1:00:11.160 --> 1:00:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Nothing else matters. I really believe that that the Democrat

1:00:14.400 --> 1:00:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Party could find out that Joe Biden had a long

1:00:17.680 --> 1:00:21.280
<v Speaker 1>history of this. And I would note that bosses who

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<v Speaker 1>tend to grab women and penetrate them against their will,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what the allegation is here, tends tend not

1:00:27.680 --> 1:00:30.520
<v Speaker 1>to be a one off thing. There are bosses who

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<v Speaker 1>do this, and they tend to be predators. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's usually what you find out in there and when

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<v Speaker 1>you do a deep dive into their background and how

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<v Speaker 1>they've really been. So is this woman even the only

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<v Speaker 1>one with Biden? But I'll tell you this, if five

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<v Speaker 1>women came forward and said that Biden did this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what the response would be from the media,

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<v Speaker 1>from the press. Well, women accused Trump too, so can't

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<v Speaker 1>do anything about this? What aboutism, the double standards? It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be jaw dropping. All the people in the

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<v Speaker 1>media who were claiming that Kavanaugh should step down coming

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<v Speaker 1>they believe Kavanaugh there and their politics were quite obvious

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<v Speaker 1>in that whole process. They're the same people now who

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<v Speaker 1>are not saying anything about what the allegations against Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden are. And I would note so I also think

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<v Speaker 1>that this is important. I think this is something that

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<v Speaker 1>we need to keep in mind. There's no accountability whatsoever

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<v Speaker 1>for the press doing what they did, the lies that

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<v Speaker 1>they told, the willingness to cast aside any effort at impartiality,

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<v Speaker 1>at being nonpartisan and being wrong. They were wrong. They're

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<v Speaker 1>wrong about Kavanaugh, and they're going to feign ignorance and

1:01:47.400 --> 1:01:49.280
<v Speaker 1>stupidity about Biden because what else are they going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing about this allegation that rings false. And if

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<v Speaker 1>five women came forward and said that Joe Biden had

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<v Speaker 1>done this to them, they would still say the same thing. Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>none of them have a right to be believed. Too

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<v Speaker 1>much at stake here for the left, too much power.

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<v Speaker 1>They hate Trump that much. How how can anybody who's

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<v Speaker 1>a journalist be taken seriously with this. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>go back and look at what people were saying on

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<v Speaker 1>the left, what the Democrat media was saying about cabin

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. Those who believed all this, they've set

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<v Speaker 1>a standard here that they just simply are going to

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<v Speaker 1>forget that they set. They're going to just pretend it

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<v Speaker 1>never happened. Because these people, I really tell you this,

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<v Speaker 1>among the worst human beings in America in professional life

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<v Speaker 1>who are treated generally well and think that they're important

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<v Speaker 1>are mainstream journalists. They're among the worst people in the

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<v Speaker 1>country in any profession. Yeah, there's, like, you know, cartel

1:02:37.320 --> 1:02:39.840
<v Speaker 1>hitmen who are worse, But I'm saying for a profession

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<v Speaker 1>that thinks of itself as being elite and worthwhile and

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<v Speaker 1>really important to the functioning of our republic, journalism is

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<v Speaker 1>rotten in America. Not all journalists are rotten, but journalism

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<v Speaker 1>in general is rotten. There's no other explanation for how

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<v Speaker 1>this Joe Biden allegation is being handled versus the way

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<v Speaker 1>that the cabin All situation was handled. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>it's CNN found this in its archives? I would note Noope,

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<v Speaker 1>someone else had to go and find this in CNN's archives. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>You mean that the same media that was able to

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<v Speaker 1>find a ten year old, you know, off off stage

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<v Speaker 1>Mike moment with Billy Bush and President Trump to try

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<v Speaker 1>to destroy him, a classic October surprise as dirty as

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<v Speaker 1>against right before the election. You mean that same mainstream

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<v Speaker 1>media couldn't figure out this. It had to be brought

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<v Speaker 1>to CNN's attention. Oh wow. I don't think anybody's even

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit surprised by that. I'm a CNN is

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<v Speaker 1>on an anti Trump jihad. We all know that they've

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<v Speaker 1>been on it for years. They're not going to change,

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<v Speaker 1>but we don't have to show them respect as a

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<v Speaker 1>media organization, as a journalistic enterprise, because they don't deserve

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<v Speaker 1>respect for either of those things. They don't deserve respect

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<v Speaker 1>in general. And to all the women out there that

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<v Speaker 1>I know who wanted to believe the press was being

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<v Speaker 1>fair and what it was saying about Kavanaugh, I would

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<v Speaker 1>want to know, how could anyone try to claim that

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on right now where you have a Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>nominee for the presidency who has been incredibly accused of

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<v Speaker 1>sexual assault by a woman who can who did know

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<v Speaker 1>him who was alone with him and who does have

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<v Speaker 1>now contemporary's corroboration or having told other people about the

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<v Speaker 1>story back in nineteen ninety three. Is it okay if

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden does it? What is the standard? What is

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<v Speaker 1>the standard that they are operating under now? They need

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<v Speaker 1>to establish this? Do they excuse Joe Biden because he's

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<v Speaker 1>too important to Democrats? I mean, that is what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just want I want them to verbalize it.

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<v Speaker 1>I want them to have to say it. Why is

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<v Speaker 1>this okay? You know, CNN, I don't think has done

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<v Speaker 1>a single story on this. What a trash heap of

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<v Speaker 1>an organization that place is. It's really appalling. You're in

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<v Speaker 1>the Freedom Hud. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Would it be a mistake if Joe Biden didn't pick

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<v Speaker 1>a woman of caller to be his running mate a president?

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<v Speaker 1>Biden will do what he has always on, which is

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<v Speaker 1>respect and value communities of color. I think he understands

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<v Speaker 1>that black communities and people of color are vital to

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<v Speaker 1>the success of the Democratic Party, and I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to pick the right person. I of course think

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<v Speaker 1>that a woman of color can bring certain attributes we

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<v Speaker 1>have to lift up marginalized communities, communities that do not

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<v Speaker 1>trust that they will be served because they have been

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<v Speaker 1>the hardest hit by this pandemic. In the state of

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia alone. While we're only thirty two percent of the population,

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<v Speaker 1>African Americans comprise fifty four percent of the deaths. And

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<v Speaker 1>so yes, having a woman of color on the ticket

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<v Speaker 1>will help promote not only diversity but trust. But I

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<v Speaker 1>trust Joe Biden to pick the person he thinks is

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<v Speaker 1>the right running mate for him. Man, the media is

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<v Speaker 1>really helping out with the Stacey Abrams for VP campaign,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't they keep on giving her as much of a

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<v Speaker 1>platform as I can. Remember, this is a woman who

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<v Speaker 1>lost the Georgia governor's race and then went around saying

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<v Speaker 1>that she wanted so you know, she's got great judgment.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're really doing everything they can to try to help,

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<v Speaker 1>in part because, you know, Chuck Todd putting an African

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<v Speaker 1>American female on his show that he's elevating as a

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<v Speaker 1>likely Joe Biden or possible Joe Biden pick makes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>makes Chuck Todd feel like he's doing his part for

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<v Speaker 1>diversity and wokeness and doing what the left would want

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<v Speaker 1>him to do you see this in a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these other Sunday shows as well. I bring this up

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<v Speaker 1>because you had I think a handful of different possible,

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<v Speaker 1>possible vice presidential picks for Biden that we're showing up

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<v Speaker 1>on the Sunday shows, which I don't really I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Sunday shows are overwhelmingly garbage. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're trash. I think they're not very good. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's this old sort of inside DC we need to have,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the old Tim Russert model of things. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all gone now. I mean, Chuck Todd is an intense

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<v Speaker 1>mediocrity and everyone knows it, and so are these other

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<v Speaker 1>people that have these Sunday Jake Tapper, he's the most

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<v Speaker 1>boring man on television. But you know, whatever, they they

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<v Speaker 1>do this, they have these Sunday shows. And how many

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<v Speaker 1>of them do you think asked Biden's vice presidential candidates,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the case of Stacey Abrams, a female, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think about the credible sexual assault allegation against

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden? Do you think any of them got to

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<v Speaker 1>ask that question? Nope, escape right past that one. Why

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<v Speaker 1>is that? How can you be a journalist when you

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<v Speaker 1>have a president a presidential contender. You only have two

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<v Speaker 1>men left in this race now it's Biden and Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them has and it's just come to light

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<v Speaker 1>that there's contemporaneous corroboration of the sexual assault allegation against Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>How can you not ask that question? See, this goes

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<v Speaker 1>to everything that we talk about here all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the bias that's going on, that people are

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<v Speaker 1>pursuing an ideological agenda. And it's why you shouldn't watch

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<v Speaker 1>ABC News tonight, even though I think like twelve million

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<v Speaker 1>people do. You should listen to people that actually tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what's true and who share your values and your

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<v Speaker 1>view because the information is already out there. We all

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<v Speaker 1>have access to more information than ever before. It's what values,

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<v Speaker 1>what principles do you apply to it? What analysis do

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<v Speaker 1>you do with it? What do you think the takeaways are?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you use judgment and how do you tell

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<v Speaker 1>people to go forward once they have that information? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>That that's what differentiates not having someone who looks and

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<v Speaker 1>sounds fancy and who has really cool intro music and

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<v Speaker 1>is on ABC News or you know, any of these

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<v Speaker 1>other platforms, or you can watch CNN and have the

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<v Speaker 1>likes of Jim Acosta still present himself as just just

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<v Speaker 1>an honest, objective journal man Play fifteen. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>know why the President didn't take questions this evening. It's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting me that Kaylee Mckininny, you know, the new spokesperson

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<v Speaker 1>who you know is over the top in her you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Soviet like praise of or rewriting of history on things,

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<v Speaker 1>would say one thing, and then the president. They clearly

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even coordinate their lives. They didn't Anderson, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think we found out today that the President's words have meeting,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're also at times hazardous to your health. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was part of what we learned today

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<v Speaker 1>and go into your point in orson there just isn't

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<v Speaker 1>enough disinfectant at the White House to wash away what

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<v Speaker 1>the President did and the lies that were told to

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<v Speaker 1>try to cover it up. I will tell you, Anderson,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons why he cut short that briefing

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<v Speaker 1>earlier this evening, my sources tell me, is because the

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<v Speaker 1>President was upset about the flak he was taking over

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<v Speaker 1>his comments that people could use disinfectants to kill the

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<v Speaker 1>coronavirus inside their bodies. Yeah, objective journals. There. You got

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<v Speaker 1>one guy who's a news anchor, Anderson Cooper quote news anchor.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, it really doesn't sound particularly articulate there,

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<v Speaker 1>does he? You know, like yeah, you know, I mean yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like Kiley mcinanny, you know, I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>go back and listen to Its really been that guy

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen million a year something like that, ten fifteen million

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<v Speaker 1>a year for a job that you could replace him

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow and nobody would care and nobody would notice. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Jeff Zucker likes him so and he's the

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<v Speaker 1>brand over there whatever that means, not Jeff Zucker Anderson Cooper.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you have Jim Acosta, who I mean, who

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<v Speaker 1>was clownish in his partisan ship. And we got all

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<v Speaker 1>these things going on this country. You know, why is

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<v Speaker 1>it that I'm here telling you about the data, talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Sweden, about lockdowns, about all this and these other everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the nag is about Trump, Trump bad, Orange Man

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<v Speaker 1>bad Trump bad oh an MSNBC. I mean, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing over there. It's not like they're any better.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a crazy Joe Scarborough. Is he still somehow listed

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<v Speaker 1>as a conservative. I just want to know what the

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. Joe Scarborough is the Jennifer Rubin of conservative

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<v Speaker 1>male TV pundits in that all he does is bash

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<v Speaker 1>the right, but still claims to have some affiliation with

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<v Speaker 1>the right. I guess the guy's just a jerk too.

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<v Speaker 1>People and I know they work with them, say he's

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<v Speaker 1>not a nice not a nice guy. I'm really full

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<v Speaker 1>of himself, which I know another guy who's intellectually deeply

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<v Speaker 1>mediocre and has just played the game right, the corporate game,

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<v Speaker 1>and gotten into a good position for himself financially, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>not ethically, morally, or in terms of his contribution to society.

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<v Speaker 1>Play four. And the President had just said a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of months earlier that it was just one person coming

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<v Speaker 1>in from China was going to be swept away, or

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<v Speaker 1>it was eleven or fifteen people. Finn. Let me just say, then,

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty fifth Amendment is de facto abolished. And I'm not,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, I'm not. We've got an election coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that this is what Democrats should push for,

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<v Speaker 1>because it would only distract I'm just saying, like my

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<v Speaker 1>con law professor said about the tenth Amendment, that the

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<v Speaker 1>growth of massive growth of government in effect made void

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<v Speaker 1>for all practical purposes, the tenth Amendment. You can add

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty fifth Amendment to that right now, because this

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<v Speaker 1>president is behaving in a way that is so dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>and extraordinarily irrational in the middle of a pandemic that

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<v Speaker 1>is changing history, that is destroying our economy day by day,

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<v Speaker 1>that's killing people, especially seniors, day by day. That if

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<v Speaker 1>it were ever going to be used, it would be used.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's not going to be used. So why don't

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<v Speaker 1>we just stop, Why don't we just stop pretending that

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<v Speaker 1>we have a twenty fifth Amendment because we really, for

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<v Speaker 1>all purposes, we don't. No, it's not a good point,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're both just not very bright. Thanks for listening

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<v Speaker 1>get your podcasts. North Korea has been in the news

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<v Speaker 1>a lot lately, and I wanted to break down everything

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<v Speaker 1>that's going on, separate fact from fiction. And to help

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<v Speaker 1>us do that, we are joined by a true expert

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<v Speaker 1>in the field, Bruce Klinger. He's a senior research fellow

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<v Speaker 1>at the Heritage Foundation. He spent twenty years at my

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<v Speaker 1>old my old spot, the CIA, but he's spent a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more time there than I did. Mister Klinger, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>so much for joining us. Well, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so let's just start with why is North

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<v Speaker 1>Korea getting all this attention? There was maybe Kim Jong

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<v Speaker 1>ung is dead, Maybe he's really sick. Ohaid, No, he's not.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened and where are we now on that? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>as you point out, there are an awful lot of rumors,

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<v Speaker 1>everything from he's dead, he's brain dead, he's incapacitated from

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<v Speaker 1>a heart attack, a failed heart operation, even from a

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<v Speaker 1>failed to launch that he was observing. At the other end, US,

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<v Speaker 1>South Korea and Chinese officials are saying he's fine, either

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<v Speaker 1>because we see nothing unusual in North Korea, or some

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<v Speaker 1>would say they have information that he's fine. The bottom

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<v Speaker 1>line is, we don't know. When I worked in North

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<v Speaker 1>Korea at CIA, it was the hardest of the hard

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<v Speaker 1>targets in retrospect. Before that, I'd worked the Soviet Union,

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<v Speaker 1>which was an open book compared to North Korea. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on the one hand, there's nothing unusual that

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<v Speaker 1>we can see. There's no real hard information on Kim's condition,

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<v Speaker 1>There have been many reports, false reports over the years

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<v Speaker 1>of failing health or death of Kim as well as

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<v Speaker 1>the two predecessors, and then they came out re emerged fine.

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<v Speaker 1>So those of us who have been watching for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, we tend to be fairly conservative in jumping

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<v Speaker 1>to conclusions. We've been through a lot of these rumors,

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<v Speaker 1>so they may be true. He may be toes up

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<v Speaker 1>on a slab, but it could also be yet another

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<v Speaker 1>instance of false rumors and he just re emerges, either

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<v Speaker 1>after recuperating or he was never in sickness at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And what would be the succession plan if such a

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<v Speaker 1>thing really even is known or exists. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of Internet chatter over the weekend about the possibility

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<v Speaker 1>of his sister taking over, who is kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>known quantity because of the Olympics sometime ago. But what

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<v Speaker 1>would happen if Kim Jong un dropped dead of a

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<v Speaker 1>heart attack tomorrow. Well, again, the answer is, we don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no formal succession plan in the North Korean constitution,

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<v Speaker 1>as there wasn't when Kim's father, Kim Jong ill, died

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty eleven. There may be a plan behind the scenes,

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<v Speaker 1>either standing or an ad hoc in case he was

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<v Speaker 1>going in for a heart procedure, So we're all trying

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<v Speaker 1>to assess. I think up until a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>the view was that a traditional Confucian society like North

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<v Speaker 1>Korea wouldn't have a woman leader. But in the last

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<v Speaker 1>two years, Kim's sister has come out of the shadows.

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<v Speaker 1>She's gained authority, she's gained stature. She really led the

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<v Speaker 1>delegation to South Korea for the Olympics two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>even though others nominally were higher ranking, she clearly was

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<v Speaker 1>in charge. So I think right now she has the

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<v Speaker 1>inside track because she's a Kim family member. Others will

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<v Speaker 1>point to an uncle of Kim chong un, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was really exiled for thirty years in Eastern Europe and

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<v Speaker 1>he only came back recently. So I think right now

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<v Speaker 1>it would appear to be the sister. But again we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, and what's the concern if there was a doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there were some people obviously who were celebrating

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<v Speaker 1>this a bit prematurely celebrating and as we now know,

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<v Speaker 1>because who knows what even is going on with Kim

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<v Speaker 1>Jong un, But there is there a great. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>what would it be Would it be a good thing

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<v Speaker 1>from the perspect active of geopolitics and international relations if

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<v Speaker 1>Kim Jong undied? Or is there are there too many

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<v Speaker 1>unknowns that you know, maybe it's a devil you know,

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<v Speaker 1>situation versus whoever could come after him. I mean, what

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<v Speaker 1>how how would we assess that right now? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity if he dies? Is it a possible collapse?

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<v Speaker 1>Sort of all of the above. You know, no one

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<v Speaker 1>outside of North Korea is going to shed a tear

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<v Speaker 1>if this brutal dictator, who according to the UN is

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<v Speaker 1>a purveyor of crimes against humanity if he passes away,

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<v Speaker 1>But there will be concerned by the United States as

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<v Speaker 1>well as South Korea and Japan are critical allies about

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<v Speaker 1>uncertainty in succession. There's the fear of an explosion in

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<v Speaker 1>that North Korea may lash out at its neighbors, either

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<v Speaker 1>because of a perceived threat from outside or to create

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<v Speaker 1>a rally round the flag effect for succession, or an

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<v Speaker 1>implosion of regime collapse, regime instability, a power struggles, civil war,

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<v Speaker 1>who's got control of the nuclear weapons? So all of

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<v Speaker 1>those are very real concerns. There's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of visibility by US and its allies, the military

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<v Speaker 1>and intelligence communities on what's going on. You know that

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<v Speaker 1>said we had the same concerns when the two previous

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<v Speaker 1>leaders passed away and the system worked, and that the

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<v Speaker 1>regime maintained itself and they anointed successor did succeed, even

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<v Speaker 1>though many had predicted they would fail. What do we

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<v Speaker 1>know about And by the way, we're speaking to Bruce Klingner,

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<v Speaker 1>he is a senior research fell at the Heritage Foundation

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years spent before that at the Central Intelligence Agency. Bruce,

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<v Speaker 1>what do we know about how North Korea is handling

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<v Speaker 1>the coronavirus situation? Considering that they're right next door to China.

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<v Speaker 1>China had this terrible outbreak. One of the only countries

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<v Speaker 1>really that has consistent commerce with North Korea is China.

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<v Speaker 1>So do we know? Again, we know it's a black

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<v Speaker 1>box of some degree, But have we seen any indicators

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<v Speaker 1>that they've had this disease spread within their borders? North

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<v Speaker 1>Korea still officially says they've had no cases whatsoever. None

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<v Speaker 1>of us believe that because all of the neighboring countries

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<v Speaker 1>had it. But right after the outbreak in China, they

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<v Speaker 1>imposed some pretty strong containment measures. They cut off really

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<v Speaker 1>contact with the outside world. They canceled flights from Beijing

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<v Speaker 1>and Moscow, they closed the border with China, and they

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<v Speaker 1>even cracked down on state runs smuggling, which had been

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<v Speaker 1>a way of gaining money for the regime to try

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<v Speaker 1>to circumvent UN sanctions. So the border with China is

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<v Speaker 1>still a bit porous, but it has really been cracked

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<v Speaker 1>down on. So there are sources inside North Korea that

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<v Speaker 1>says there have been deaths, There have been cases, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're not seeing real indications of widespread death or disease

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<v Speaker 1>as one might have expected. So perhaps they were able

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<v Speaker 1>to dodge a bullet on COVID and their indications at

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<v Speaker 1>some schools in Pyongyang are starting to reopen. So being

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<v Speaker 1>the hermit kingdom, as it's called in this case might

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<v Speaker 1>have actually been something of an advantage being such an

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<v Speaker 1>isolated place. The isolation may have paid off for them

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<v Speaker 1>in that regard. How is the Trump administration overall at

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<v Speaker 1>this point? How would you assess how they've done in

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with North Korea? Just sort of taking a step back,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to be heading an election this fall. Trump

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<v Speaker 1>had all this outreach to Kim Jong un. Now he's

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<v Speaker 1>back in the headlines because of what may have been

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<v Speaker 1>some health issues. Again, we don't know, as you've established,

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<v Speaker 1>but has Trump had the right approach which we have

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<v Speaker 1>anything to show for now going at a year four

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<v Speaker 1>of a new tactic or new tactics when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to North Korea, we really we've made absolutely no progress

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<v Speaker 1>on denucrozation or getting any kind of change in North

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<v Speaker 1>Korean behavior. Recently, North Korea has said they are not

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<v Speaker 1>interested in any working level or even summit level meetings

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<v Speaker 1>with President Trump unless we basically capitulate on our denucrozation policy.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I wasn't a supporter of the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of the summit diplomacy. I'm more of a traditionalist and

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of you actually make progress at the working

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<v Speaker 1>level and work up to a summit where you sign

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<v Speaker 1>an agreement. But at least it did put to the

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<v Speaker 1>test the idea that many people had of if only

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<v Speaker 1>the leaders from the two countries could get together, only

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<v Speaker 1>the North Korean leader can make a decision, so therefore

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<v Speaker 1>we'd have a breakthrough. Well, we've tested that hypothesis and

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<v Speaker 1>found it false. So you know. I think there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot that I have been critical of the Trump administration

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<v Speaker 1>on North Korea, but no administration or president has a

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<v Speaker 1>monopoly on good or bad ideas when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>North Korea. So what we have to do is have

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<v Speaker 1>a truly maximum pressure policy that we have not had

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<v Speaker 1>that despite the moniker, we've been holding back on unforcing

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<v Speaker 1>our own laws as well as un sanctions. We've been

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<v Speaker 1>curtailing military exercises for two years on the Korean peninsula,

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<v Speaker 1>and right now we're engaged in some very tortuous negotiations

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<v Speaker 1>with South Korea over their compensation for US forces. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think the US should be demanding exorbit in increases

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<v Speaker 1>a fivefold increase, as the administration is. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>should accept an incremental increase because right now we need

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<v Speaker 1>to be shoulder to shoulder with our allies, not bickering

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<v Speaker 1>over nichols and dimes when we face common threats not

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<v Speaker 1>only from North Korea but also China. Bruce Klingner of

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<v Speaker 1>the Heritage Foundation and formerly of the CIA, Bruce, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for your expertise, sir. We appreciate it. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for having me. You're in the freedom hunt. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the Buck Sex and Show podcast. Big tweet out

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<v Speaker 1>from Maria Barto Romo over the weekend, breaking news sources

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<v Speaker 1>tell me General Flynn will be completely exonerated this week.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a total fraud, a setup. More tomorrow. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that was Yester round Sunday. Oh wow, you mean

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<v Speaker 1>that the primary other than manaport, the primary justification in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of a criminal prosecution that was successful for so

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<v Speaker 1>much of the Russia collusion. Nonsense, right, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>they would point to. Oh, look at General Flynn, convicted

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<v Speaker 1>felon General Flynn. Look at all the criminality that we

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<v Speaker 1>found here. No, you mean you manufactured. It was disgusting

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<v Speaker 1>what they did to General Flynn. Let's just review for

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<v Speaker 1>a moment. Shelby. He's the incoming national security advisor, former

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<v Speaker 1>chief of the Defense Intelligence Agency, had spent thirty years

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<v Speaker 1>working as part of the United States military, serving in uniform.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a decorated veteran, and he was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the early national security allies of the Trump administration, which

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<v Speaker 1>made him hated by the deep state national security establishment

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<v Speaker 1>as we know. And he's coming in during the transition.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the incoming national security advisor, and what do what

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<v Speaker 1>do Sally Yates at DOJ and Comby over at FBI

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<v Speaker 1>and this this whole cabal that we know, what do

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<v Speaker 1>they decided to do? They take leaked criminally leaked information

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<v Speaker 1>by by ignacious over the Washington Post, and they're now

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<v Speaker 1>looking into and I oh, well, I hope Durham. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope the Durham investigation finds who leaked that stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>sends them to prison for a good four or five years.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because that's really that's probably what you get for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you get three four years in a deal, but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you're gonna get real prison time for leaking

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<v Speaker 1>ts information to the press like that. And some of

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<v Speaker 1>you would say, well, no, no, no, buck, you should

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<v Speaker 1>get ten Look look at you know, look at you

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<v Speaker 1>know Reality Winner or whatever name you know, you got

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<v Speaker 1>ten years, right, I mean, so you can get some

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<v Speaker 1>real time for leaking uh top secret intercept like that

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<v Speaker 1>to the press. For partisan purpose, they gotta make they

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<v Speaker 1>gotta make a really strong example of that person. Guess

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to be Somebody who liked Obama a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>probably would vote for Biden now or definitely would vote

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<v Speaker 1>for Biden now, and hates Trump. So they might be

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<v Speaker 1>able to find out who this is. I certainly hope

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<v Speaker 1>they do find out who it is, and that would

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<v Speaker 1>that would be a big missing piece of all this.

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<v Speaker 1>But also remember that they used the Logan Act to

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<v Speaker 1>have a sit down conversation with General Flynn and then

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<v Speaker 1>pretended that it wasn't really a friendly conversation to the

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<v Speaker 1>National Security Visor and the FBI and people were telling

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<v Speaker 1>us all the experts you told you, Oh, but he

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<v Speaker 1>should know better that these people were morons. Okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>was as clear as set up as anything could ever be.

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<v Speaker 1>I've told you that all along, those who end listed

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<v Speaker 1>me for years here on the show know that I

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<v Speaker 1>knew exactly what game they were playing with this. They

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<v Speaker 1>got him on a one zero zero one violation. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out there was a side deal that they

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<v Speaker 1>would not disclose where they would withhold charges or that

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<v Speaker 1>they would refrain from charges against his son if he

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<v Speaker 1>pleaded guilty. So what they did is they jammed him up,

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<v Speaker 1>and they made sure that you know, he had no

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<v Speaker 1>chance to take this to trial. If he took it

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<v Speaker 1>the trial, they were going to annihilate him and his

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<v Speaker 1>family members, and for what he'd say, for lying about what.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't even do anything illegal. So they're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>him for not lying about criminal conduct, but just misremembering

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation that he has with two FBI guys. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>Andy McCabe lied very much so under oath. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>FBI and he's connected to the deep state folks, and

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<v Speaker 1>so he didn't get charged, no criminal charges. How is

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<v Speaker 1>that possible they got lied under oath, Well, it doesn't count.

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<v Speaker 1>So we see the double standards, just like the double

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<v Speaker 1>standard with cabal. I mean, this is this is the

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<v Speaker 1>way that the left, the deep state, dishonest people always

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<v Speaker 1>have to have malleable standards because that's the only way

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be able to get what they want. Because if

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<v Speaker 1>a standard is applied consistently and universally, then it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>clear that they're going to run on the wrong side

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<v Speaker 1>of it at some point because they're bad people. So

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<v Speaker 1>what do they do. They use standard, They use rules

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<v Speaker 1>against us, and then they have no rules for themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a piece from Sean Davis and the Federalist just

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<v Speaker 1>from a couple days ago. New court documents filed under

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<v Speaker 1>SEAL include significant exculpatory information about Michael Flynn. The new documents,

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<v Speaker 1>which were filed under seal by the Just Department on Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>allegedly include exonerating evidence about Flynn, who pleaded guilty to

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<v Speaker 1>line to federal investigators about conversations with foreign diplomats as

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's top incoming foreign policy advisor and is currently attempting

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<v Speaker 1>to withdraw his plea, as well as evidence of malfeasance

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<v Speaker 1>by the FBI during its investigation of Flynn. According to

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI official who spoke to the Federalist, FBI General

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<v Speaker 1>Counsel Dan Bonte led the charge internally against DJ's disclosure

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<v Speaker 1>of new materials. Bonte, who briefly served as acting Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>General after Trump became president, personally signed off on one

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<v Speaker 1>of the federal spy warrants against former Trump campaign affiliate

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<v Speaker 1>Carter Page. The new documents, which were filed under a

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<v Speaker 1>protective order by DJ on Friday, will reflect poorly on

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI, the official told the Federalist. It is not

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<v Speaker 1>clear when or even if those documents will be unsealed

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<v Speaker 1>and made to the public. Because the documents were foiled

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<v Speaker 1>under sealed, the Federalist has not been able to review

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<v Speaker 1>them independently. Multiple investigative reports issued by the DOJ Inspector

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<v Speaker 1>General revealed myriad instances of corruption by FBI officials throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the multi year investigation of Trump in his former campaign,

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<v Speaker 1>former campaign. My friends, the fix was in from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a disgusting, a disgusting miscarriage of justice. They

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<v Speaker 1>knew that Flynn didn't lie, as we know from the

1:27:46.400 --> 1:27:49.280
<v Speaker 1>initial report, the FBI didn't believe that Flynn lied, But

1:27:49.360 --> 1:27:52.599
<v Speaker 1>then they were pushed to amend that for some reason

1:27:53.320 --> 1:27:55.080
<v Speaker 1>to get leverage. Oh, now they got him on this.

1:27:56.120 --> 1:27:59.400
<v Speaker 1>This is the classic FBI maneuver. Just you know, when

1:27:59.439 --> 1:28:01.240
<v Speaker 1>they want to get you on something, they always look

1:28:01.280 --> 1:28:03.280
<v Speaker 1>to get you on a one zero zero one violation,

1:28:03.680 --> 1:28:05.760
<v Speaker 1>and then that becomes the lever they use to get

1:28:05.800 --> 1:28:08.960
<v Speaker 1>everything else they want. So so you think you're in

1:28:09.000 --> 1:28:12.400
<v Speaker 1>a position to fight against something. You think that they've

1:28:12.439 --> 1:28:14.400
<v Speaker 1>got the wrong guy. But guess what, they don't. They

1:28:14.439 --> 1:28:17.120
<v Speaker 1>don't have to prove that their initial suspicion of you

1:28:17.640 --> 1:28:19.720
<v Speaker 1>for criminal conduct was correct. All they have to do

1:28:19.840 --> 1:28:21.559
<v Speaker 1>is get you in a one zero zero one lying

1:28:21.640 --> 1:28:25.880
<v Speaker 1>to FBI and now you're facing five years. Now you'll

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever they say, You'll please, You'll you'll rat on

1:28:30.320 --> 1:28:33.160
<v Speaker 1>other people. You know, you'll you won't just to borrow

1:28:33.280 --> 1:28:36.040
<v Speaker 1>from Who was it that was saying this all the time,

1:28:36.280 --> 1:28:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Alan Dershowitz up at Harvard about all this stuff. He

1:28:39.280 --> 1:28:43.640
<v Speaker 1>said that they won't just sing, they'll compose, meaning they

1:28:43.680 --> 1:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>won't just tell tales. They'll make them up as they

1:28:46.680 --> 1:28:49.000
<v Speaker 1>go along about what, you know, whatever they think that

1:28:49.040 --> 1:28:52.640
<v Speaker 1>the officials want to hear. So, you know, here we go,

1:28:52.760 --> 1:28:56.519
<v Speaker 1>and the Federalists, just an hour ago published Robert Muller's

1:28:57.040 --> 1:29:00.719
<v Speaker 1>case against Michael Flynn is about to implode. New facts

1:29:00.720 --> 1:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>in the Michael Flinn investigation, calling a question the voluntariness

1:29:03.479 --> 1:29:06.800
<v Speaker 1>of Flynn's plea Judge Sullivan should dismiss the charges to

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<v Speaker 1>send a clear message outrageous prosecutorial coercion will not be tolerated.

1:29:13.400 --> 1:29:18.960
<v Speaker 1>My friends, this needs, this needs to happen. We need

1:29:19.080 --> 1:29:22.439
<v Speaker 1>justice here. I've been saying all along that General Flynn

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<v Speaker 1>should be I've said it on Twitter. I've been very

1:29:24.280 --> 1:29:26.599
<v Speaker 1>open that he should be pardoned, that presidents should pardon him.

1:29:27.400 --> 1:29:29.519
<v Speaker 1>In a sense. I guess now I might end up

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<v Speaker 1>being happy I did not get my request because he

1:29:32.600 --> 1:29:35.320
<v Speaker 1>may be not just pardoned, but he may be exonerated,

1:29:35.920 --> 1:29:39.839
<v Speaker 1>meaning that they vacate his plea, and the judge vacates

1:29:39.880 --> 1:29:42.280
<v Speaker 1>his plea and says, you know, we are sorry and

1:29:42.360 --> 1:29:46.960
<v Speaker 1>sends him on his way because this is appalling his team.

1:29:47.080 --> 1:29:49.120
<v Speaker 1>The legal team is trying to withdraw the guilty plea

1:29:49.240 --> 1:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>right now. The more they find out about this, I mean,

1:29:52.240 --> 1:29:54.360
<v Speaker 1>they keep trying to hide the information. The more information

1:29:54.439 --> 1:29:57.599
<v Speaker 1>that comes out, the more clear it is that they

1:29:57.760 --> 1:30:01.240
<v Speaker 1>railroaded this guy. They basically made a a crime, made

1:30:01.280 --> 1:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>him plead to it, or also going to destroy him

1:30:03.120 --> 1:30:05.400
<v Speaker 1>and his son, and now they're trying to hide what

1:30:05.479 --> 1:30:08.439
<v Speaker 1>they did. You know why they did all this because

1:30:08.479 --> 1:30:10.519
<v Speaker 1>he was tied to Trump? I mean because the deep

1:30:10.560 --> 1:30:13.519
<v Speaker 1>state didn't like that somebody else came along and was

1:30:13.560 --> 1:30:16.840
<v Speaker 1>in power who wasn't one of theirs. Thanks for listening

1:30:16.880 --> 1:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>to The Bus Sesson Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on

1:30:20.360 --> 1:30:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Apple Podcast, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get

1:30:23.760 --> 1:30:26.880
<v Speaker 1>your podcasts. I'm gonna get you some roll call. I

1:30:26.920 --> 1:30:28.479
<v Speaker 1>want to check in with producer Mark Over in the

1:30:28.520 --> 1:30:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Penalty Box. My friend, how was your weekend great? How

1:30:31.200 --> 1:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>was yours? It was all right? Would you watch We

1:30:33.920 --> 1:30:37.080
<v Speaker 1>started a new show called Silicon Valley Valley on HBO.

1:30:37.080 --> 1:30:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've ever watched it. Amazing show. Yeah,

1:30:39.240 --> 1:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>great show, great show. Yeah, I've had a feeling you

1:30:42.320 --> 1:30:44.559
<v Speaker 1>guys would both like that one. That's a great one. Yeah,

1:30:45.040 --> 1:30:47.240
<v Speaker 1>we're really enjoying it when like season three, I think

1:30:47.320 --> 1:30:49.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a quick show, only twenty five minutes or so

1:30:49.240 --> 1:30:51.519
<v Speaker 1>an episode. Yes, you can burn through episodes real fast.

1:30:51.640 --> 1:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>But it's good. And you know, people that I know

1:30:53.080 --> 1:30:56.040
<v Speaker 1>who are in that that Silicon Valley world, I mean

1:30:56.040 --> 1:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>the real thing, say that there's a lot of a

1:30:58.880 --> 1:31:01.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of truth in that show, that a lot of

1:31:01.160 --> 1:31:03.800
<v Speaker 1>the silly stuff is really based on real stuff, and

1:31:04.400 --> 1:31:09.559
<v Speaker 1>it's it's pretty amazing. Yeah, it's very clever. Well, I'm glad, man,

1:31:09.600 --> 1:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you enjoyed that. I saw a show called,

1:31:11.920 --> 1:31:15.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean a movie called Extraction. I also watched a

1:31:15.600 --> 1:31:17.920
<v Speaker 1>bit of The Crown with the Snow Princess. We had

1:31:17.960 --> 1:31:20.360
<v Speaker 1>a very nice time. The Crown is great, by the way.

1:31:20.560 --> 1:31:22.519
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think I would like it, a fantastic show.

1:31:23.200 --> 1:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>But I saw this movie Extraction. I watched this one

1:31:27.160 --> 1:31:30.880
<v Speaker 1>solo while the Snow Princess was doing other things. The

1:31:31.200 --> 1:31:35.240
<v Speaker 1>movie Extraction is I've never seen a movie with so

1:31:35.400 --> 1:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>little plot and so little dialogue and so many people

1:31:38.000 --> 1:31:40.960
<v Speaker 1>getting shot, it's like nothing else. I mean, it's at

1:31:41.040 --> 1:31:43.439
<v Speaker 1>least the movie Commando. All the violence kind of comes

1:31:43.479 --> 1:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>at the end. But Schwarzenegger's Commando, which if you haven't seen,

1:31:47.360 --> 1:31:51.040
<v Speaker 1>is a great old action flick. It's all building to

1:31:51.520 --> 1:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>just one long, continuous shootout at the end where he

1:31:55.240 --> 1:31:58.160
<v Speaker 1>just keeps switching weapons and it's ridiculous and it's amazing,

1:31:58.200 --> 1:32:01.559
<v Speaker 1>and it's a great, great movie. They'dolf some steam, Bennett.

1:32:01.760 --> 1:32:04.720
<v Speaker 1>It's a great movie. This movie. There's just a lot

1:32:04.760 --> 1:32:06.680
<v Speaker 1>of shooting pretty much the whole time, and it's just

1:32:06.800 --> 1:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>one guy who kills so many people that he makes

1:32:10.040 --> 1:32:12.800
<v Speaker 1>John Wick look like a pacifist. It's the guy who

1:32:12.840 --> 1:32:17.400
<v Speaker 1>plays Thor in the Avengers movies. Yeah, Chris Hemsworth. Yeah,

1:32:17.920 --> 1:32:20.519
<v Speaker 1>he's just running around lighting up dudes all over the place.

1:32:21.040 --> 1:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen so many people get shot in a movie,

1:32:23.200 --> 1:32:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I think by one person. It's just I've never seen

1:32:25.439 --> 1:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>anything like it. It's pretty astonishing. Was it entertaining? Yes?

1:32:29.280 --> 1:32:31.959
<v Speaker 1>Could I write a better script in ten minutes? Probably?

1:32:32.280 --> 1:32:37.160
<v Speaker 1>So there's that anyway, That was Yeah, I know, I'm

1:32:37.200 --> 1:32:38.760
<v Speaker 1>just telling I look it's a it's a review, not

1:32:38.840 --> 1:32:41.960
<v Speaker 1>a recommendation. I'm sure you know. This week, I'm very

1:32:42.040 --> 1:32:45.240
<v Speaker 1>excited because I have I have the Last Kingdom to

1:32:45.360 --> 1:32:49.280
<v Speaker 1>get to. I'm Utred's son of Ughtred. It's gonna be amazing.

1:32:49.520 --> 1:32:52.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm very pleased about that. So the Last Kingdom is

1:32:52.520 --> 1:32:54.599
<v Speaker 1>a great show. And I'm gonna be watching the Last Kingdom,

1:32:54.600 --> 1:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>which will be a lot of fun. All Right, here

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<v Speaker 1>we go, t J. It's buck. Today here in Iowa,

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<v Speaker 1>Governor Kim Reynolds is announcing her plan to reopen the state.

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<v Speaker 1>We never had a shelter in place amongst those plans.

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<v Speaker 1>It's already even stated that farmers markets will be allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to reopen, but food vendors only, and people are being

1:33:13.680 --> 1:33:16.559
<v Speaker 1>encouraged to mask up and only send one family member

1:33:16.600 --> 1:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>with no kids. I can't help but notice some of

1:33:19.400 --> 1:33:23.840
<v Speaker 1>my more left leaning colleague acquaintances are taking issue at this. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure these same people go to an indoor boxtore

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<v Speaker 1>grocer to get their groceries weekly or bi weekly. But

1:33:29.680 --> 1:33:31.600
<v Speaker 1>god forbid, we have an open air market. We can

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<v Speaker 1>get our food from our small business neighbors without being

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<v Speaker 1>confined to the eight foot wide grocery store aisles. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't decide if those people just haven't thought this through

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<v Speaker 1>or if they just would rather not see a GOP

1:33:42.920 --> 1:33:49.519
<v Speaker 1>governor be successful in reopening the state. Yeah, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that first of all, outdoor markets are probably

1:33:53.560 --> 1:33:55.760
<v Speaker 1>safer than indoor markets. We all know that, and I

1:33:56.160 --> 1:33:58.880
<v Speaker 1>do believe that there was a surge. I know they

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<v Speaker 1>were outdoor hospitals set up during the Spanish flu pandemic,

1:34:02.640 --> 1:34:04.519
<v Speaker 1>but I think they also started to move a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things outdoors as much as possible because just fresh air, sunlight,

1:34:08.360 --> 1:34:10.439
<v Speaker 1>as we know, these are good things. These things kill

1:34:10.560 --> 1:34:14.240
<v Speaker 1>the virus. As for people who don't want there to

1:34:14.280 --> 1:34:16.600
<v Speaker 1>be success on this, yeah, we're going to see some

1:34:16.720 --> 1:34:18.439
<v Speaker 1>of that. I wish it was not the case, but

1:34:18.520 --> 1:34:21.240
<v Speaker 1>there are people that would rather be right than have

1:34:21.479 --> 1:34:25.439
<v Speaker 1>us return to a greater degree of normalcy. There are

1:34:25.479 --> 1:34:28.320
<v Speaker 1>people that would prefer to be correct than to have

1:34:28.600 --> 1:34:31.519
<v Speaker 1>things go better for all of us. Eric, Hey Buck,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been listening to your podcast It's back when you

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<v Speaker 1>were on the Blaze. Well, thank you, Eric. You've been

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<v Speaker 1>a part of my routine daily at work. I work

1:34:38.160 --> 1:34:40.559
<v Speaker 1>as a lead custody and so luckily I'm still working.

1:34:40.960 --> 1:34:42.639
<v Speaker 1>It seems to me that people are happy to stay

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<v Speaker 1>home and collect money from the government, especially since most

1:34:44.960 --> 1:34:48.800
<v Speaker 1>people are making more on unemployment. Why can't people work

1:34:48.840 --> 1:34:51.519
<v Speaker 1>with masks like I'm forced to every day? I'm starting

1:34:51.560 --> 1:34:53.519
<v Speaker 1>to feel like there's something going on behind the scenes.

1:34:53.560 --> 1:34:56.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a big conspiracy theory kind of guy. People

1:34:56.360 --> 1:34:58.320
<v Speaker 1>really hate Trump though, and I'm starting to think deep

1:34:58.360 --> 1:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>state democrats and the media might be up something. Eric. Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, thank you for continuing to do what

1:35:03.320 --> 1:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>you do and making sure that you know if places

1:35:07.040 --> 1:35:09.560
<v Speaker 1>are wherever it is you're working as a custodian, that

1:35:09.640 --> 1:35:12.840
<v Speaker 1>it's clean and sanitary, and that really is these days

1:35:12.920 --> 1:35:15.120
<v Speaker 1>more important than ever. And just that you're showing up

1:35:15.160 --> 1:35:17.559
<v Speaker 1>and continue to be productive. You deserve aig a big

1:35:17.680 --> 1:35:20.280
<v Speaker 1>high five for that. And as for why can't other

1:35:20.320 --> 1:35:22.120
<v Speaker 1>folks work with masks on, I think that's what we're

1:35:22.160 --> 1:35:23.760
<v Speaker 1>heading for. I think there will be more people that

1:35:23.840 --> 1:35:26.559
<v Speaker 1>are working with masks, so that's going to become more normal.

1:35:26.640 --> 1:35:30.360
<v Speaker 1>That's going to become an expectation that we all have

1:35:30.680 --> 1:35:32.640
<v Speaker 1>in our offices and our jobs. I think you might

1:35:32.720 --> 1:35:35.320
<v Speaker 1>have an increase in social distancing in the office too,

1:35:35.439 --> 1:35:37.519
<v Speaker 1>meaning that desks will have to be further apart. And

1:35:37.640 --> 1:35:40.040
<v Speaker 1>I remember when I worked in the CIA, we were

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<v Speaker 1>in a like a shared cubical situation and it just

1:35:43.160 --> 1:35:44.600
<v Speaker 1>felt like we were all on top of each other.

1:35:44.640 --> 1:35:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean we were so it was just so tight

1:35:47.040 --> 1:35:49.519
<v Speaker 1>in there. And that was I'm not talking about overseas,

1:35:49.600 --> 1:35:51.120
<v Speaker 1>where you expect if you're in a war zone, you're

1:35:51.120 --> 1:35:53.120
<v Speaker 1>going to be in tight quarters. I mean here Stateside.

1:35:54.000 --> 1:35:55.640
<v Speaker 1>So I think they're gonna have a shift away from

1:35:55.640 --> 1:35:58.600
<v Speaker 1>all of that. And yeah, mask wearing is going to

1:35:58.680 --> 1:36:01.600
<v Speaker 1>become very m on the office, which I mean a

1:36:01.640 --> 1:36:05.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of masks are not comfortable. I think people forget this.

1:36:06.040 --> 1:36:07.559
<v Speaker 1>If you put on one of those N ninety five

1:36:07.640 --> 1:36:10.200
<v Speaker 1>respirator masks, for example, you find that they're really tight

1:36:10.280 --> 1:36:13.120
<v Speaker 1>on your face. They're not very not fun to have on.

1:36:14.200 --> 1:36:16.920
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, man, I think that's where we're heading. And Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for writing in and thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for listening. Since I was on the Blaze, man, remember

1:36:21.360 --> 1:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>that's going back now. I haven't been on the Blaze

1:36:23.000 --> 1:36:27.320
<v Speaker 1>in four years. Robert Buck, I listen you on podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Rob from VA. Wanted to ask why Iraq

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<v Speaker 1>was such a bad foreign policy decision looking back at

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<v Speaker 1>nine to eleven and not knowing what was going to

1:36:35.840 --> 1:36:38.000
<v Speaker 1>happen next, since Saddam was a bad guy and Iram

1:36:38.120 --> 1:36:41.280
<v Speaker 1>was even worse. We go into Afghanistan, we liberated Rock

1:36:41.360 --> 1:36:43.560
<v Speaker 1>and wow, looks like Iran is in the middle. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think this could have been a factor in going

1:36:45.160 --> 1:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>into a rock It didn't work out that we wanted.

1:36:47.040 --> 1:36:48.920
<v Speaker 1>In the media and the Democrats are at fault. I'm

1:36:48.920 --> 1:36:51.479
<v Speaker 1>still in uniform. And you stay on the radio. First

1:36:51.520 --> 1:36:54.360
<v Speaker 1>heard you on the Rush Show. Stay safe, well, Robert.

1:36:54.400 --> 1:36:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you listening to me, feeling for the great

1:36:56.080 --> 1:36:59.840
<v Speaker 1>man himself, mister Rush Limbaugh, the greatest living radio host.

1:37:00.560 --> 1:37:06.640
<v Speaker 1>And as for why Iraq is a bad decision, I

1:37:06.680 --> 1:37:09.600
<v Speaker 1>think you just look at the consequences of this and

1:37:09.960 --> 1:37:12.479
<v Speaker 1>we what we gained versus what we lost in that

1:37:12.600 --> 1:37:15.600
<v Speaker 1>whole process. So I think the moment you do that,

1:37:15.720 --> 1:37:18.880
<v Speaker 1>you start to see that there was a there was

1:37:18.920 --> 1:37:20.720
<v Speaker 1>a cost benefit analysis that would go in a very

1:37:20.760 --> 1:37:23.880
<v Speaker 1>different direction. Now that we actually have the inputs, the factors,

1:37:23.920 --> 1:37:25.679
<v Speaker 1>the numbers, we would we would have a very different

1:37:25.680 --> 1:37:29.320
<v Speaker 1>approach to it. Yeah, I think that they believed at

1:37:29.360 --> 1:37:31.360
<v Speaker 1>the time, and I remember this and I remember I

1:37:31.439 --> 1:37:34.120
<v Speaker 1>worked in the Iraq Office of the CIA, so I

1:37:34.200 --> 1:37:35.920
<v Speaker 1>could also go back and look at a lot of

1:37:36.000 --> 1:37:39.280
<v Speaker 1>the historical documents from that office as I did, and

1:37:39.360 --> 1:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I had access to pretty much every piece of classified

1:37:41.920 --> 1:37:45.439
<v Speaker 1>information that the CIA is a rock office, had, So

1:37:46.439 --> 1:37:48.160
<v Speaker 1>with that, I mean, I can just tell you that

1:37:48.240 --> 1:37:50.280
<v Speaker 1>the expectations for what we're going to happen there in

1:37:50.400 --> 1:37:53.240
<v Speaker 1>that country were very different from the outcome. There really

1:37:53.400 --> 1:37:55.760
<v Speaker 1>was a belief and this is this is well known,

1:37:55.800 --> 1:37:57.679
<v Speaker 1>this is all across the media as well, and people

1:37:57.760 --> 1:37:59.800
<v Speaker 1>understand this, but there really was a belief throughout government,

1:38:00.680 --> 1:38:02.599
<v Speaker 1>or at least in a lot of places within the government,

1:38:02.720 --> 1:38:05.479
<v Speaker 1>that we're making decisions that we would come along and

1:38:05.560 --> 1:38:08.240
<v Speaker 1>the Iraqis would be happy that he was gone, and

1:38:08.479 --> 1:38:10.720
<v Speaker 1>then which this would serve as a model. This was

1:38:10.800 --> 1:38:13.120
<v Speaker 1>the pitch that would serve as a model for other

1:38:13.200 --> 1:38:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Middle Eastern states, and it just turned out to not

1:38:16.080 --> 1:38:18.720
<v Speaker 1>be the case that they would take to this the

1:38:18.800 --> 1:38:21.479
<v Speaker 1>way that we thought that they perhaps would. It was

1:38:21.560 --> 1:38:25.560
<v Speaker 1>not the case that this led to a series of

1:38:25.600 --> 1:38:29.400
<v Speaker 1>flowering democracies throughout the Middle East. And when you look

1:38:29.439 --> 1:38:31.080
<v Speaker 1>at it in that context, and we also to keep

1:38:31.080 --> 1:38:33.479
<v Speaker 1>fighting the war on terror and Afghanistan is still ongoing

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<v Speaker 1>now and we still have troops in Iraq. You look

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<v Speaker 1>at these decisions, I just think it's very hard in

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<v Speaker 1>retrospect to think that these were the thing that that decision,

1:38:40.280 --> 1:38:43.559
<v Speaker 1>in particular to go into Iraq, knowing what we know now,

1:38:44.000 --> 1:38:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it's clear it was a bad idea. If

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<v Speaker 1>we were in the same circumstances and you're asked using

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<v Speaker 1>the same data as you were at that point in time,

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<v Speaker 1>would you would you end up with the same result.

1:38:53.600 --> 1:38:56.200
<v Speaker 1>That's a more complicated question. That's a more difficult thing

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<v Speaker 1>for us to figure out. So I leave the two.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for your service, Robert, and thanks so much

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<v Speaker 1>for listening to the show. Kelly, I just heard part

1:39:05.240 --> 1:39:09.520
<v Speaker 1>of the conversation about parents homeschooling. I may have misunderstood,

1:39:09.600 --> 1:39:11.840
<v Speaker 1>but my opinion about parents homeschooling, and I see it

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of my stressed out friends with their homeschooling.

1:39:14.760 --> 1:39:17.280
<v Speaker 1>They don't have the education to help with math, especially

1:39:17.320 --> 1:39:20.960
<v Speaker 1>among other subjects. Students aren't getting the benefits of actually teachers.

1:39:21.040 --> 1:39:23.320
<v Speaker 1>It's not the same and kids need to be back

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<v Speaker 1>to school eventually when it's safe. Hey, Kelly, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to kids going back to school. I just think

1:39:29.120 --> 1:39:34.559
<v Speaker 1>that the effort to malign homeschooling. And my friend Enis Felcher,

1:39:34.560 --> 1:39:37.320
<v Speaker 1>who joined us last week, made this pretty clear, I

1:39:37.400 --> 1:39:39.320
<v Speaker 1>think when she said, look, this is not homeschooling. This

1:39:39.479 --> 1:39:41.720
<v Speaker 1>is shelter in place with your kids and try to

1:39:41.800 --> 1:39:44.920
<v Speaker 1>teach them some stuff. Actual homeschoolers, of which there are

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of million in the country that the teachers

1:39:47.640 --> 1:39:50.360
<v Speaker 1>set up before I mean sorry, the parents set up

1:39:50.400 --> 1:39:54.000
<v Speaker 1>beforehand to be better teachers, to make sure they know

1:39:54.120 --> 1:39:56.880
<v Speaker 1>what the curriculum is, that make sure they understand what

1:39:57.000 --> 1:39:58.639
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be teaching ahead of time, and they're

1:39:58.640 --> 1:40:00.880
<v Speaker 1>also setting up activities all kinds of other things. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is ad hoc. This is, you know, impromptu homeschooling,

1:40:05.800 --> 1:40:08.160
<v Speaker 1>which is not the way it's normally done. And as

1:40:08.200 --> 1:40:09.920
<v Speaker 1>for kids going back to school, sure, and look, there

1:40:09.920 --> 1:40:11.160
<v Speaker 1>are a lot there are a lot of very good

1:40:11.160 --> 1:40:13.519
<v Speaker 1>public schools in the country. We all know that, but

1:40:13.600 --> 1:40:15.719
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of bad ones. And people should

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<v Speaker 1>have choices about what they what their children learn and

1:40:19.320 --> 1:40:23.280
<v Speaker 1>where they go to school. And the one size fits all,

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<v Speaker 1>do what we say or else attitude from the state

1:40:25.320 --> 1:40:29.160
<v Speaker 1>about public schools is troubling, especially when you see what

1:40:29.360 --> 1:40:34.439
<v Speaker 1>a massive fiscal burden the teachers. It's really the teachers unions,

1:40:34.479 --> 1:40:37.680
<v Speaker 1>but you know the education budgets, which is largely a

1:40:37.720 --> 1:40:40.439
<v Speaker 1>slush fund to pay adults in a lot of these places.

1:40:40.439 --> 1:40:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying the teachers make a lot of money,

1:40:41.960 --> 1:40:44.280
<v Speaker 1>but there are a lot of administrators and union officials

1:40:44.320 --> 1:40:45.960
<v Speaker 1>and people like that that are also making money that

1:40:46.040 --> 1:40:48.560
<v Speaker 1>have nothing to do with teachers. I think if you

1:40:48.720 --> 1:40:50.519
<v Speaker 1>if you check the statistics, you'd see that over the

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<v Speaker 1>last of twenty years, there has been a seven x

1:40:54.680 --> 1:40:59.080
<v Speaker 1>increase in our public school system of non teaching staff,

1:40:59.680 --> 1:41:03.840
<v Speaker 1>so all kinds of administrators and special assistants and you know,

1:41:03.920 --> 1:41:06.760
<v Speaker 1>all this other stuff. So that's why it's become a

1:41:06.840 --> 1:41:09.200
<v Speaker 1>huge jobs program. A lot of people have these jobs

1:41:09.240 --> 1:41:11.160
<v Speaker 1>that they really can't get fired from. They've got very

1:41:11.240 --> 1:41:14.479
<v Speaker 1>cushy benefits, not a huge salary, but some salaries for

1:41:16.200 --> 1:41:19.640
<v Speaker 1>teaching bureaucrats, not for teachers. It's actually quite high. You know,

1:41:19.640 --> 1:41:22.000
<v Speaker 1>if you're the superintendent of schools and some districts, you're

1:41:22.000 --> 1:41:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you're making a lot of money. Actually you're doing very well.

1:41:26.640 --> 1:41:29.479
<v Speaker 1>You're in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sex

1:41:29.600 --> 1:41:36.479
<v Speaker 1>and Show podcast. Okay more roll call here, Chris writes

1:41:36.520 --> 1:41:38.479
<v Speaker 1>in Buck Love your podcast. We listen to it here

1:41:38.479 --> 1:41:40.960
<v Speaker 1>at the Detective's office every morning to become a morning

1:41:41.040 --> 1:41:43.280
<v Speaker 1>staple with our standard black Rifle coffee, even if it

1:41:43.439 --> 1:41:45.680
<v Speaker 1>is a little bit behind because I listened it from

1:41:45.680 --> 1:41:47.800
<v Speaker 1>the day before. Help us out here. We have a

1:41:48.040 --> 1:41:51.760
<v Speaker 1>running bet regarding Producer Mark. Is he for real or

1:41:51.880 --> 1:41:54.400
<v Speaker 1>is he just doing a stick? There's no way a

1:41:54.479 --> 1:41:56.720
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven year old millennial could really be as as

1:41:56.800 --> 1:41:59.560
<v Speaker 1>stuffy and weary of the world as this guy. A

1:41:59.640 --> 1:42:01.720
<v Speaker 1>week's worth of lunches is on the line, and these

1:42:01.760 --> 1:42:07.160
<v Speaker 1>guys don't order off the kid's menu. She'll tie Producer Mark.

1:42:07.200 --> 1:42:09.479
<v Speaker 1>I will let you answer this one. I read this email.

1:42:09.760 --> 1:42:12.040
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean I'm stuffy and out of touch

1:42:12.080 --> 1:42:14.000
<v Speaker 1>with the world. I don't get it or weary of

1:42:14.080 --> 1:42:17.880
<v Speaker 1>the world. I think they're just asking is this the son?

1:42:18.040 --> 1:42:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I guess I have to give the real answer here.

1:42:19.760 --> 1:42:21.240
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to give you a first crack. If you

1:42:21.280 --> 1:42:23.600
<v Speaker 1>guys are asking if Producer Mark that you hear is

1:42:23.640 --> 1:42:25.840
<v Speaker 1>like the way, is actually Producer Mark or if he's

1:42:25.880 --> 1:42:30.599
<v Speaker 1>doing some the answers Yes, that's you're hearing Producer Mark.

1:42:30.640 --> 1:42:32.760
<v Speaker 1>And this is how he is. Right, My life is

1:42:32.760 --> 1:42:37.680
<v Speaker 1>a stick book. They're getting pure, unadulterated producer Mark is

1:42:37.680 --> 1:42:39.280
<v Speaker 1>all we're trying to get to. Here. You're getting the

1:42:39.320 --> 1:42:43.280
<v Speaker 1>real deal, folks. No additives, no preservatives, right Mark. Yes,

1:42:43.400 --> 1:42:46.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm organic all the way, Organic Mark all the way.

1:42:46.800 --> 1:42:48.960
<v Speaker 1>It's all you need, folks. So there you go. So

1:42:49.040 --> 1:42:51.479
<v Speaker 1>I guess someone's buying somebody some lunches. Here, Producer Mark,

1:42:51.479 --> 1:42:53.720
<v Speaker 1>you're getting the real deal every day. I hope you're

1:42:53.720 --> 1:42:55.880
<v Speaker 1>all team Producer Mark, and half of you are mocking me.

1:42:55.960 --> 1:42:58.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm not really sure how this is working. Well, No,

1:42:58.600 --> 1:43:00.760
<v Speaker 1>I think I think they're all t Mark. They just

1:43:00.840 --> 1:43:02.800
<v Speaker 1>want to know if if Mark is a character or

1:43:02.800 --> 1:43:04.479
<v Speaker 1>if Mark is really Mark. And I'm here to say no,

1:43:04.600 --> 1:43:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Mark is really Mark. Guys, this is this is producer Mark.

1:43:07.120 --> 1:43:09.920
<v Speaker 1>You're getting him the real deal. Uh. And and just

1:43:10.080 --> 1:43:12.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, when I show up, you know, after doing

1:43:12.160 --> 1:43:14.360
<v Speaker 1>five hours or radio many days a week, you know,

1:43:14.560 --> 1:43:16.280
<v Speaker 1>the first thing I off and here from producer Mark

1:43:16.400 --> 1:43:18.320
<v Speaker 1>is like, oh, you showed up for work today, Because

1:43:18.360 --> 1:43:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm usually a little bit late. So I kind of

1:43:20.200 --> 1:43:24.080
<v Speaker 1>learned it. But none nonetheless, Nonetheless, that's where we are.

1:43:24.280 --> 1:43:26.360
<v Speaker 1>As I've said before, Buck is the only human being

1:43:26.400 --> 1:43:28.920
<v Speaker 1>who can be late to his own living room. It's

1:43:28.960 --> 1:43:32.599
<v Speaker 1>pretty there's there's like twenty steps between there on the couch,

1:43:32.800 --> 1:43:37.920
<v Speaker 1>so twenty David, Hey Buck, I've noticed nobody's talking about

1:43:37.960 --> 1:43:41.960
<v Speaker 1>cryptocurrency anymore. I saw Bitcoin is trading at seventy five hundred.

1:43:42.360 --> 1:43:44.760
<v Speaker 1>The dio is bobbing up and down, but pretty healthy

1:43:44.800 --> 1:43:47.000
<v Speaker 1>considering the circumstances. I'm curious about your thoughts on why

1:43:47.000 --> 1:43:50.040
<v Speaker 1>cry crypto isn't moving higher with all the uncertainty that exists.

1:43:50.360 --> 1:43:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Keep up the great work. Don't want producer Mark beat

1:43:52.400 --> 1:43:55.960
<v Speaker 1>you up too much. David. I think that's a very

1:43:56.000 --> 1:43:58.400
<v Speaker 1>good question about crypto, because you would think that given

1:43:58.479 --> 1:44:01.160
<v Speaker 1>all the money printing going on, as we know, it's

1:44:02.040 --> 1:44:04.639
<v Speaker 1>digits on a screen, it's not really printing printing money.

1:44:04.760 --> 1:44:07.479
<v Speaker 1>But as we as that's happening, and you have all

1:44:07.560 --> 1:44:10.519
<v Speaker 1>of this sense of you know, where are you gonna

1:44:10.560 --> 1:44:12.840
<v Speaker 1>where you're gonna have a store of value that's worthwhile,

1:44:13.560 --> 1:44:16.040
<v Speaker 1>you have not seen if crypto doesn't have a spike.

1:44:16.160 --> 1:44:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Now it feels like when is it ever gonna have

1:44:17.680 --> 1:44:19.600
<v Speaker 1>a spike? Which makes me feel like it really was

1:44:19.680 --> 1:44:22.360
<v Speaker 1>all Look, they were creating all these different cryptos, there

1:44:22.479 --> 1:44:24.400
<v Speaker 1>was a scammy nature to some of it. For sure,

1:44:25.040 --> 1:44:28.640
<v Speaker 1>blockchain technology is certainly worthwhile and interesting. It might have

1:44:28.800 --> 1:44:33.040
<v Speaker 1>some very very important uses as a technology in the future.

1:44:33.520 --> 1:44:36.320
<v Speaker 1>But crypto, as you know, I had friends are saying, Oh,

1:44:36.680 --> 1:44:39.840
<v Speaker 1>crypto's gonna go to one hundred thousand, you know a bitcoin.

1:44:40.320 --> 1:44:42.439
<v Speaker 1>Each bitcoin were worth one hundred thousand dollars. I'm gonna

1:44:42.439 --> 1:44:45.439
<v Speaker 1>be super rich. I'm gonna retire on this. I don't.

1:44:45.479 --> 1:44:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I mean, look, I'm not giving you advice

1:44:47.040 --> 1:44:48.479
<v Speaker 1>one or the other. That's not what I do. But

1:44:49.080 --> 1:44:51.160
<v Speaker 1>it seems pretty dubious to me right now. Producer Mark,

1:44:51.200 --> 1:44:53.040
<v Speaker 1>did you ever buy any crypto? No, I didn't have

1:44:53.160 --> 1:44:57.479
<v Speaker 1>money back then. Yeah, I mean yeah, you know that's

1:44:57.960 --> 1:45:01.280
<v Speaker 1>the crypto thing really felt a little bit like people

1:45:01.320 --> 1:45:03.800
<v Speaker 1>were trying to just play in a craps game or something,

1:45:03.920 --> 1:45:05.560
<v Speaker 1>or you know, it's just gambling for a lot of

1:45:05.600 --> 1:45:07.880
<v Speaker 1>folks because no one really understands it, and they just

1:45:07.960 --> 1:45:09.560
<v Speaker 1>saw it going up and they figured I want to

1:45:09.600 --> 1:45:11.840
<v Speaker 1>get in on this. But David, it's a great question.

1:45:12.040 --> 1:45:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I have not read a single good answer as to

1:45:14.000 --> 1:45:16.439
<v Speaker 1>why if cryptos not having a big move up now,

1:45:16.600 --> 1:45:18.040
<v Speaker 1>when is it ever going to have a big move

1:45:18.120 --> 1:45:20.920
<v Speaker 1>up other than what we saw, which was just a bubble,

1:45:21.120 --> 1:45:24.200
<v Speaker 1>just like the tulip craze in the Netherlands. It just

1:45:24.280 --> 1:45:26.240
<v Speaker 1>was a bubble where people were buying crypto. It's going

1:45:26.280 --> 1:45:27.680
<v Speaker 1>up some more people buy it because they want to

1:45:27.680 --> 1:45:30.479
<v Speaker 1>get in on it, you know, classic Herd bubble mentality.

1:45:31.680 --> 1:45:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Mark writes in Buck on Friday's podcast. You mention you

1:45:34.360 --> 1:45:36.360
<v Speaker 1>thought the debates would be better without an audience, but

1:45:36.439 --> 1:45:39.519
<v Speaker 1>I disagree. You just know Trump will pull tera read

1:45:39.560 --> 1:45:41.439
<v Speaker 1>front and center in the audience just to rattle Joe,

1:45:41.520 --> 1:45:45.400
<v Speaker 1>and it will be fantastic shields high well, Mark, you know,

1:45:45.520 --> 1:45:47.200
<v Speaker 1>to each his own on this one. You can certainly

1:45:47.240 --> 1:45:51.000
<v Speaker 1>prefer having an audience. I think Trump is going to

1:45:51.080 --> 1:45:53.960
<v Speaker 1>bring up the allegations against Joe Biden, and Biden's gonna

1:45:54.000 --> 1:45:58.479
<v Speaker 1>bring up allegations against Trump, So that's that's something else

1:45:58.479 --> 1:46:02.640
<v Speaker 1>that we can expect. But yeah, I just don't like

1:46:02.760 --> 1:46:05.360
<v Speaker 1>the audience making all that noise and kind of getting

1:46:05.400 --> 1:46:08.920
<v Speaker 1>in the way and being annoying. So I prefer without.

1:46:08.960 --> 1:46:11.080
<v Speaker 1>But you if you prefer with, then that's fine. You know,

1:46:11.160 --> 1:46:14.720
<v Speaker 1>tomato tomato. Some people like chocolate ice cream like me.

1:46:14.880 --> 1:46:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Some people like strawberry. You know who love strawberry ice

1:46:17.280 --> 1:46:22.600
<v Speaker 1>cream by their producer mark? My parents? Yeah, yeah, I

1:46:22.720 --> 1:46:26.360
<v Speaker 1>can't believe it now. I go over there and they're like, yeah,

1:46:26.640 --> 1:46:28.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, we've got some ice cream in the fridge.

1:46:28.080 --> 1:46:29.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what do you have. They're like, well, there's

1:46:29.240 --> 1:46:30.720
<v Speaker 1>the coin you don't like, and then there's a bunch

1:46:30.720 --> 1:46:33.559
<v Speaker 1>of other things, but we gotta check. Makes me sad.

1:46:33.680 --> 1:46:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Haven't you been buying their groceries? Do you like revolt

1:46:36.360 --> 1:46:38.720
<v Speaker 1>and refuse to buy them strawberry? No, I'll get them

1:46:38.720 --> 1:46:41.040
<v Speaker 1>whatever ice cream they want. I'm a good son. Is

1:46:41.120 --> 1:46:43.600
<v Speaker 1>nice of you even though they're wrong. I'm good like that. Yeah, No,

1:46:43.640 --> 1:46:45.320
<v Speaker 1>strawberries gross. We all know it. But it's all righty

1:46:45.360 --> 1:46:46.640
<v Speaker 1>to each his on them. My mom and dad likes

1:46:46.640 --> 1:46:48.679
<v Speaker 1>strawberry ice cream. They're allowed to like strawberry ice cream.

1:46:48.720 --> 1:46:52.120
<v Speaker 1>But they're still wrong. But I love them, chad Buck.

1:46:52.200 --> 1:46:54.280
<v Speaker 1>The people are claiming to believe the president really meant

1:46:54.320 --> 1:46:56.479
<v Speaker 1>to cure COVID. We need to inject the disinfect and

1:46:56.520 --> 1:46:58.639
<v Speaker 1>are the same people that require the warning of hot

1:46:58.720 --> 1:47:00.800
<v Speaker 1>liquid on the side of their coffee cups. The old

1:47:00.840 --> 1:47:02.960
<v Speaker 1>adage there is no dumb question goes out the window.

1:47:03.000 --> 1:47:06.479
<v Speaker 1>With today's media, they prove that wrong every day. Keep

1:47:06.520 --> 1:47:09.240
<v Speaker 1>up the good workshields high. Chad agreed. By the way,

1:47:09.240 --> 1:47:11.479
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1:47:11.560 --> 1:47:13.640
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