1 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: You are entering the freedom hunt. A case study in 2 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: elite Panic San Francisco and the nineteen eighteen flu. Do 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: full lockdowns actually save lives? The New York City antibody tests. 4 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: We've got updates for you on that, plus a sting 5 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: operation in Texas for painting nails. General Flynn was set up? 6 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: And why are there no Sunday questions about Biden's sexual 7 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: assault allegation? That and more coming up. This is the 8 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show, where the mission or mission is to 9 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: decode what really matters with actionable intelligence. Make no mistake, 10 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: you're a great American. Again, the Buck Sexton Show begins, 11 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: He's a great guy. Now. I want to review that 12 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: timetable because when I heard Mitchell on the floor the 13 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: other day, he was saying, we have all these things 14 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: in here that we ask for. No you rejected, No, 15 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: you rejected. And speaking of Mitch, what's gotten into him? 16 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: While it's an indication the President is asking people to 17 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: inject lysol into their lungs and Mitch is saying that 18 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: states should go bankrupt, it's a clear visible within twenty 19 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: four hours of how the Republicans reject science and reject governance. 20 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: If you don't believe in science. They don't believe in governance. 21 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: That's their approach, and we do not. We don't want 22 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: more government that we need, but we know that governance 23 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: has a role, and we know that science has a role, 24 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: and without science in our decision making, we are not 25 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: going to be on a very successful path. Nancy Pelosi 26 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: is a stupid person's idea of what an intelligent politician 27 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: and sounds like welcome to the buck Sex and Show. Everybody. 28 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for joining. I trust you had 29 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: a relaxing and rejuvenating weekend. At least I hope you did. 30 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: Some of you, I'm sure on the work line doing things, 31 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: making sure that you were on the front lines and 32 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: making sure the food is delivered, making sure that people 33 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: are getting taken care of in hospitals, doing all the 34 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: things that we need to have happening to keep this 35 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: country going. But for the rest of you, I will 36 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: have my thoughts for you on Netflix and some of 37 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: the latest there. But first I want to get into 38 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: where we are right now and this whole process, because 39 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: you know, Pelosi there telling us about how there's no science, 40 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: there's no governance, or the Republicans, how can someone say 41 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: something that is so devoid of underlying facts that it's 42 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: just so bizarrely disconnected from reality, and no one seems 43 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: to bat an eyelash about it. It's certainly no Democrats do. 44 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: They have no problem with us whatsoever. They view the 45 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: whole thing is entire entirely justified. There's no governance, there's 46 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: no science with Republicans. The president is standing up for 47 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: two hours a day. He actually might not be doing 48 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: it quite so much and for so long pretty soon, 49 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: because I think people are feeling like he might be 50 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: a little bit overexposed with all this. But the president 51 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: is doing these things, he's having these press conferences, and 52 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 1: they're claiming that he does not give he does not have, 53 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: you know, a governance going on. He doesn't listen to science. 54 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: He's got scientists that are basically running the briefings. Okay, 55 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: it's the scientists. They're the ones that are actually doing 56 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: the briefings for the most part. And he just gets 57 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: up there and tries to bring it all together. But 58 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: this is the kind of stupidity that we expect from 59 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: the Democrat left, the same Democrat Left that is put 60 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: now credibly accused sexual assaulter Joe Biden and man who 61 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: is perpetually confused and deeply unimpressive. He's the answer. Sure, 62 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: these people are unserious, the Democrats. They've always been unserious. 63 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: They never learn and they will never change. So we 64 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: need to understand that they haven't gotten better because we'ren't 65 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: a crisis. They haven't gotten more honest. This is just 66 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: who they are, so we will have to accept that. 67 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: I suppose as much as one can while trying to 68 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: defeat them and do everything we can to make sure 69 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: they do not once again wield power. I had a 70 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: fascinating read for you over the weekend that I picked 71 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: up by James Meigs. I believe I've never heard of 72 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: or read anything by him, and I had to ben dominant. 73 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: You was sharing this from the Federalist. This was in 74 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: commentary magazine though, and it's elite panic versus the resilient 75 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: Populace is the title of piece by James. James Meg's 76 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: here and it's fascinating. It's absolutely fascinating. I highly recommend it. 77 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: We'll share it on some of our social platforms so 78 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: you can see this piece. He talks about how in 79 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty four North America had its strongest recorded earthquake 80 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: just off the coast of Alaska on March twenty seventh, 81 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty four, so a month ago today, back in 82 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty four the shaking from the magnet, or a 83 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: month earlier in the year. The shaking from this quake 84 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: was nine point two on the Richter scale, and it 85 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: shook for four and a half minutes. He writes that 86 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: the tectonic forces reshaped Alaska's coastline and triggered tsunamis that 87 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: wiped out villages and claimed lives as far south as California. Anchorage, 88 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: which was the main city, the closest city to the 89 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: epicenter of the earthquake, was home to one hundred thousand people, 90 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,679 Speaker 1: and buildings were just completely destroyed all of our Anchorage, 91 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: I mean just collapsed, caved in. Buildings were rumbling down 92 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: the sides of embankments after there was just earth moving, 93 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: the soil moving beneath them. There was brand new J. C. 94 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: Penny department store that was collapsing in parts of it. 95 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: We're just completely falling apart. I've been to Anchorage and 96 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a nice town. I actually 97 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: liked it there and I know we're on KNI, which 98 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: is our wonderful affiliate up and Anchorage that actually comes 99 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: up in this story, so being high five to k 100 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: e N. I are our Anchorage, Alaska affiliate for the 101 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: Bucks X and show. Because back in nineteen sixty four, 102 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: that was the station that people were turning to for information. 103 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: That was the first line for folks in the Anchorage 104 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: area to find out, Hey, what's going on, Who's who's missing? 105 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: Where do they need help? But officials immediately, and this 106 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: is what this piece and commentary magazine talks about. Officials 107 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: began worrying about the response from people. They thought to themselves, 108 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: wait a second, there's going to be looting, There's going 109 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: to be rioting. This is terrible. What can we do? 110 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,559 Speaker 1: And so they deputized a number of people on the spot, 111 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: including giving some of them firearms, to say, hey, prevent 112 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: all this looting in the post disaster environment that we 113 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: think is going to happen. So this is where were 114 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: there were concerns that people would quote behave like frightened 115 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: and unsatisfied children, and that there could be a mass 116 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: outbreak of hysterical neurosis among the civilian population. That was 117 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: what the police and some of the authorities that some 118 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: of the authorities in the city assumed would happen. And 119 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: the author here points out that there are plenty of 120 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: counterexamples in history, the British response during the Blitz in 121 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: World War Two, the Japanese response after the Fukushima nuclear 122 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: reactor disaster, which was initially thought to perhaps be much 123 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: much it was believing much much worse than it ended 124 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: up being in terms of the amount of radiation that 125 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: was let loose, but most the author of this piece 126 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: cites a book. The book is called This is Chance, 127 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: the shaking of an all American city, a voice that 128 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: held it all together. And this is in Anchorage. This 129 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: is about what happened in Anchorage during this period. And Chance, 130 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: I believe, was a radio, TV and radio announcer, Genie Chance, 131 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: a minor celebrity in Alaska. The earthquake caught her in 132 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: her car quote running down a downtown running a downtown 133 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: aaron with her sons. She saw the mangled body in 134 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: the rubble. Cars were buried in debris. One station wagon 135 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: had been crushed almost flat by a concrete slab. Chance 136 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: could hear a woman's voice coming from inside a crowd 137 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: of people was trying to save her, clawing at the slab. 138 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: Then a man stepped forward to organize the effort. Somehow 139 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: two chow trucks were located. They were able to split 140 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: the slab partially into another man climbed into the breach 141 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: with a cunning torch and carved a hole in the 142 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: vehicle's roof. The woman was pulled free, great injured, but alive. 143 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: She would survive. Chance later marveled that all the people 144 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: involved in the operation were mere passers by impromptu volunteers, 145 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: and yet they functioned as a team. Though she didn't 146 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: know it at the time, this dynamic was being replicated 147 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: all over the city. Chance made her first broadcast as 148 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: soon as her radio station k E and I came 149 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: back on air. End quote. That's right, Kae and I, 150 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: the same station that folks up in Alaska are listening 151 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: to us on right now up in Anchorage. But that 152 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: was the station that she was able to use to 153 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: get the word out to people about rescue efforts. Now, remember, 154 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: there was the official rescue effort and there was the 155 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: civilian rescue effort that was going on people all over 156 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: Anchorage back in nineteen sixty four doing everything that they 157 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: could to try to save lives, try to pick people 158 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: out of the rubble. And it was impromptu. It was 159 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: on the spot. Chance Quote set up a broadcast desk 160 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: at the Anchorage Public Safety Building, home to the city's 161 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: police and fire department. City employees hurried in and out, 162 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: and civilian volunteers as well. Everyone, it seemed, had a 163 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: message they need a chance to read on the air. 164 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: A high voltage power line is down on Northern Lights Boulevard. 165 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: There's a large crevice on Seward Highway. Both highways out 166 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: of Anchorage or closed. There wasn't much comfort of the 167 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: news Chance and or fellow broadcasts were conveying. But Anchorage 168 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: residents remember those voices as a lifeline. Information one would 169 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: later say, is a form of comfort. Another called k 170 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: E and I our only beacon of light in a 171 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: night of terror end quote. Fascinating, isn't it so? The 172 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: official of response from the authorities was what people would 173 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: call in the disaster study area elite panic. The elites 174 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: right off the bat generally assume, not always, but will 175 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: generally assume that people will react terribly the moment that 176 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: their sense of normalcy is shattered. Otherwise, good, decent, law 177 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: abiding people will either be terrified or will act out 178 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: badly and will not be You cannot count on them 179 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: to do helpful things, and it's up to the authorities 180 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: to make all the decisions for them. I think you're 181 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: starting to see a little bit of a little bit 182 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: of a comparison here, aren't you. Elite. Panic is when 183 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: the authorities believe that citizens will become dangerous so quote, 184 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: they begin to focus on controlling the public rather than 185 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: on addressing the disaster itself. They clamp down on information, 186 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: restrict freedom of movement, and devote unnecessary energy to enforcing 187 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: laws they assume are about to be broken. These strategies 188 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: don't just waste resources, they also undermine the public's capacity 189 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: for resilient behaviors. In other words, nervous officials can actively 190 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: impede the ordinary people trying to help themselves and their neighbors. 191 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: End quote. Yeah you don't say so. Here, the city 192 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: of Alaska, Vanchorage in Alaska, with a hundred thousand residents 193 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: gets hit with an over nine point oh earthquake, which 194 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: is and absolutely stunningly devastating her Keep pointing to stay earthquake, 195 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: hurricane earthquake. It's stunningly devastating, and yet they were able 196 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: to band together the people of Anchorage with a little 197 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: help of coordination at the top, courtesy of our affiliate 198 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: Ke and I, they were able to direct people. And 199 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: do you know how many ended up actually dying in 200 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: that earthquake? Five? That's obviously a tragedy for those five 201 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: people in their families, but from what could have happened 202 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: given all the people that were picked out of rubble, 203 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:33,359 Speaker 1: it's really astonishing. But human beings, especially in good, healthy societies, 204 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: which ours is. Despite all the criticisms that we can 205 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: have for America, despite all of our shortcomings here and there, overall, 206 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: we are a good country filled with good people. When 207 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: we're given the opportunity, we will more often than not 208 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: do good things. But the government doesn't always seem to 209 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: think so. And this is how you have sting operations 210 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: against nail salons. This is how people can be chased 211 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: down on the beach for being completely alone and going 212 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: for a jog. This is how you have some of 213 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: the absolutely absurd enforcement of regulations that they say are 214 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: meant to keep us safe, meant to keep us healthy, 215 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: But no serious person could ever think that they would 216 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 1: have that effect. Why are they doing these things? Why 217 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: are they putting us through this? These are questions that 218 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: we should demand answers too, because right now we're being 219 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: told something that's very troubling. It was a few weeks 220 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: ago that the data, the data dictated that we had 221 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: to do whatever the government told us, and that we 222 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: could not be counted on, We could not be counted 223 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: on to be responsible citizens who would take mitigation measures ourselves, 224 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: allow businesses to adapt and create safer environments, but still 225 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: able to still be able to continue in business. No 226 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: mandates lockdowns across the board, across the country. Well, now 227 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: we have data about those lockdowns, and it does not 228 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: look good for the across the board lockdown chorus. There 229 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: are some places, New York being the most notable one, 230 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: where it might have been justified because of the extreme 231 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: nature of the infection, but even then only justified for 232 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: a short period of time. But in other places the 233 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: lockdown has been, if anything, counterproductive. And if you look 234 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: at Europe where they've had essentially a control group with 235 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: Sweden versus other countries in Europe, Sweden is in the 236 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: middle of the pack. Sweden is not worse off. In fact, 237 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: it's better off on a per capita basis than Italy, 238 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: than Spain, than the UK. It's slightly worse off than 239 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: Finland or Denmark. But they didn't shut down their society. 240 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: And everyone's pointing out of the economic impact of it 241 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: there and saying, well, their economy still got hurt. And 242 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: you hear this now, Well, the economy won't come back 243 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: online because people are too scared. Well, you know, would 244 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: make people less scared if they started to see other 245 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: people go to stores and be okay, and other businesses 246 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: start to operate and life start to return to normal. 247 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: Normal right away, but normal in phases. That has to happen. 248 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: That's where we are, and we need to start having 249 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: authorities give the American people greater latitude to make good decisions, 250 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: to be helpful to each other in our day to 251 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: day lives, and stop this insanity of everything that they 252 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: say must be done and not be questioned because they 253 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: have the answers. They've already shown us they don't have 254 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: the answers. They absolutely do not. The data was used 255 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: to tell us stay inside or else weeks ago. Now 256 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: the data shows that in many places and in many 257 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: cases that was not necessary and perhaps counterproductive. Where's the 258 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: focus on that? Now we're all of our so called 259 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: firefighter journos running toward, running toward the flames for the 260 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: betterment of our republic. They got no answers for this, 261 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: do they? We're heading into a different phase, my friends. 262 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: We had we had demands for government action because people 263 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: were scared and the government saw an opportunity to use 264 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: its power. And now we have overreach, ineptitude, and a 265 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: complete lack of accountability for bad decisions that government is making. 266 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: Enough is enough. Let's actually start making some good decisions, 267 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: and let's allow the American people to be a bigger 268 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: part of that process. You're in the freedom Hunt. This 269 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: is the Buck Sex and Show podcast again on this 270 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: wonderful piece in Commentary magazine by James Meigs. It's really 271 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: a fascinating story and I love it. It's at the 272 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: center of it all. I mean, there's the everyday heroes 273 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: who are using blow torches and pickup trucks impromptu. Just oh, 274 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: I happen to have my blow torch in the back. 275 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: I happen to have, you know, earth moving equipment that 276 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: I can use to save somebody from the rubble all 277 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: over Anchorage back in nineteen sixty four. And also, it's 278 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: kind of cool that the coordination and operations center for 279 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: this whole thing was our affiliate for the Buck, Sex 280 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: and Stone show an Anchorage, Kae and I, So they 281 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: must feel pretty pretty darn good about that. But but 282 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: there's other other more recent examples to the piece goes 283 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: into the situation in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. There 284 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: there were all these stories about, oh, the horrific violence 285 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: and looting, and there were some bad things that happened there, 286 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: but you know, there was also a lot of coming together, 287 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: a lot of community in the Cajun Navy was just amazing. 288 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: Hundreds of boats. Private citizens are saying, I'm there, man, 289 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm showing up and I'm helping everybody I 290 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: can help. Hundreds of boats getting people out of floodwaters 291 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: and saving lives and coordinating with And this is not 292 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: to say that first responders are not essentially doing incredible work. 293 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: Of course they are. But while the first responders are 294 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: doing things, there are also a lot of citizens, a 295 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: lot of civilians who step up and do important things. 296 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: They often work together and the impulse of authority though, 297 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: and this is this brings us back to elite panic, is, Oh, 298 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: the people cannot be trusted. You must have a very 299 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: firm hand with them. And this is particularly the impulse 300 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: of unaccountable bureaucracies and regulatory boards and bodies, things like 301 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: the FDA, which in the early days of this coronavirus pandemic, 302 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: the FDA slowed down testing because they couldn't figure out 303 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: that the regulations they had were not were not necessary 304 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: given the scope and the problems that we're facing right 305 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: now with coronavirus. They couldn't They couldn't figure it out 306 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: in times, and they slowed down the whole testing process. Again, 307 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: the elites panic, while the people actually try to do 308 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: something to help each other. Remember that thanks for listening 309 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: to the bus sets and show podcasts. Remember to subscribe 310 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: on Apple podcasts, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you 311 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. No, and it's outrageous for Senator m 312 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: Accountel to even suggest that the facts of the matter 313 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: is our general fun budget, when adjusted for inflation, is 314 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: the same size it was or an when Richard Nixon 315 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: was our president. We have been incredibly smart stewards. We 316 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: have not made some of the investments I think we 317 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: should have as a state because of you know this, 318 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: you know, artificially low number that we've been working with. 319 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is that for Senator 320 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: McConnell to suggest that is incredibly dangerous, and I don't 321 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: think that the vast majority of governors in this country, 322 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: Republican and Democratic, would agree with him. He's wrong, and 323 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: we need Congress to step up and help states because 324 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: this pandemic. It's because of this global pandemic that we 325 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: are all having to make tough decisions. We need the 326 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: federal government to have our backs. Governor Whitmer of Michigan 327 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: has become among the best known of the of the 328 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: overreach folks in all of this. I think that's fair 329 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: to say she is somebody who has come to our 330 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: attention for being willing to have the most the most 331 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: petty tyranny in the most obvious ways. As as being 332 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: a governor, you didn't have that interview that Tucker Carlson 333 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: did some weeks ago with the Governor Murphy of New 334 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: Jersey in which he's like, well, that's above my pay grade. 335 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: Why did you suspend the Bill of Rights? Governor Murphy well, 336 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: that's above my pay grade. That was the conversation with Tucker, 337 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: And to that one would say, well, no, it's not, 338 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: because you're the governor and you have responsibility to protect 339 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: the Bill of Rights and you cannot override it as 340 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: a state official. But we've seen a lot of that, 341 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: and I want to remind you all now that we 342 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: were told certain things about why we had to just 343 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: accept this. We were told this as a country, we're 344 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: told this for really all fifty states. They're only a 345 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: handful that did not go with statewide lockdowns. And now 346 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: we have more dated, more information, and we're supposed to 347 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: forget that we were told things that weren't true, to 348 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: take actions that did not protect us, that did not 349 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: help us or save us. And you would think that 350 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: this would be a point for the jury knows to 351 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: stand up and say, well, hold on a minute, maybe 352 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: we need to rethink some of this, But nope, because 353 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: the lockdown consensus has also become very much melded in 354 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: with the anti Trump left and the critics of the 355 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: Trump administration. So lockdown has become political in a way 356 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: that you can't you can't avoid this. You can't pretend 357 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: that it's not happening, because this is in fact a 358 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: p a primary goal for a lot of the people 359 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: who are pushing for lockdowns across the country to make 360 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: sure that the Trump administration suffers, because what they're able 361 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: to do here is they're able to put all the 362 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: blame on Trump, feel like they're saving lives in the process, 363 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: and ensure that there is catastrophic economic damage. Now, people 364 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: could say, well, book, why do they do this, Why 365 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: do they do this in Europe? And I say, yeah, 366 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: why why do they do this in Europe? Considering that 367 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: European countries are opening up right now, So the lockdown 368 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: forever folks are just wrong. I mean, they're they're not 369 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: doing this in Europe much longer. They are opening up schools, 370 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: they are opening up businesses. And I keep pointing to Sweden, 371 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: not because I have some obsession with Stockholm, but you know, 372 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: I don't have Stockholm syndrome, But no, because the Swedes 373 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: were the only ones who were able to be a 374 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: control group for all the measures that we were told 375 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: needed to happen. They didn't do it, and they basically 376 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: went through what the countries that did do it, meaning 377 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: the lockdown. They had the very similar outcome, in fact, 378 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: a better outcome than the countries with the most severe restrictions, 379 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: like Italy and Spain. What we really see is, if 380 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: nothing else, by the time the authorities recognize that a 381 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: lockdown is needed, it's too late. And now what we're 382 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: seeing is, by the time it's clear or a tribute 383 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: clear to everybody, the lockdown has gone on too long. 384 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: The authorities don't want to lift it. That is where 385 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: we are right now. So this brings me to a 386 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: fascinating piece the Wall Street Journal. Do lockdown save many 387 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: lives in most places? The data say no. The speed 388 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: with which officials shutter the economy appears not to be 389 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: a factor in COVID debts. This is a piece by 390 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: Joe Joe malchow Yannon Weiss, and T. J. Rogers, And 391 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: here's what they say. Here's the basics of it. Sweden. 392 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: Sweden is fighting coronavirus with common sense guidelines that are 393 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: much less economically destructive than the lockdowns in most US states. 394 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: Since people over sixty five account for about eighty percent 395 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: of COVID nineteen debts, Sweden asked only seniors to shelter 396 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: in place, rather than shutting down the rest of the country, 397 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: and Sweden had no pediatric debts. It didn't shut down 398 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: elementary middle schools. Sweden's containment measures are less onerous than Americas, 399 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: so it can keep them in place longer to prevent 400 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen from recurring. Sweden did not shut down stores, restaurants, 401 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: and most businesses, but it did shut down the Volvo 402 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: automotive plant, which has since reopened, while the Tesla plant 403 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: in Fremont, California, were shuttered by police and remains closed. 404 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: How did the Swedes do They suffered eighty deaths per 405 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: million twenty one days after crossing the one per million 406 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: threshold level with ten million people. Sweden's death rate without 407 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: a shutdown and massive unemployment is lower than that of 408 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,959 Speaker 1: the seven hardest hit US states Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Louisiana, 409 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: connect At, Michigan, New York, and New Jersey, all of 410 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: which except Louisiana shut down in three days or less. 411 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: Despite stories about high death rates, Sweden is in the 412 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: middle of the pack, comparable to France, better than Italy, 413 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: Spain and the UK, worse than Finland, Denmark and Norway, 414 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: and older people in care homes accounted for half of 415 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: Sweden's debts. We should cheer for Sweden to succeed, not 416 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: ghoulishly bash them. They may prove that many aspects of 417 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: the US shutdown were mistakes, ineffective, but ech comically devastating, 418 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: and point the way to correcting them. What do I 419 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: have been telling you all along? How many times have 420 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: you heard me talk about Sweden on this show and 421 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: that there was a rooting against it from people in 422 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: the media. Oh, the Swedes are heading to disaster. Oh, 423 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: the Swedes are going to learn the most painful, lesson 424 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: reckless what they're doing there. We were pressuring them, meaning 425 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: that the US media, the international news media organizations, they 426 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: were pressuring the Swedes to do what all these other 427 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: countries were doing with the lockdowns. And now we're now 428 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: we're far enough in this and have enough data to 429 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: know that was wrong. There was no bed, there would 430 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: be no benefit for the Swedes to do the lockdown. 431 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: And now people are telling me, well, the economy and 432 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: Sweden has been hit. First of all, Okay, it's been hit. 433 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: Does anyone think that it's Is it a better thing 434 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: or a worse thing for some businesses to be open 435 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: and some businesses to have revenue in economy, better to 436 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: have no businesses open, no revenue. So clearly just applied 437 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: basic sense and logic to this. Clearly it would be 438 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: worse for the economy if they had done with all 439 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: these other places had done, and there is no evidence 440 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: to suggest that it is markedly worse off from a 441 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: health and safety and mortality rate. Is now we have 442 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: we have our control group, and we have our answer. 443 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: We did not need to shut down all fifty states 444 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: in this country. Are close to all fifty states in 445 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: this country with lockdowns. New York probably needed to be 446 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: locked down, perhaps the tri state area in New York, 447 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: New Jersey, Connecticut, and they're needed to be precautions put 448 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: in place. House where this is not This is not 449 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: a oh, we don't need mitigation or we don't need 450 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: to take this seriously. Of course not. That's absurd. That's 451 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: a straw man. No one really thinks that. No one's 452 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: arguing for that. But tell people that they can operate businesses. 453 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: Tell people they can't go to parks, they can't go 454 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: into public places where they're able to maintain distance and 455 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: they're an open air. It's absurd. We're shutting down parks 456 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: at a time when fresh air and open space are 457 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: essential for men till and physical health. There's been so 458 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: much wrong here, and only some people have been willing 459 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: to ask questions along the way. And I'll tell you 460 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: even I tired after a few days of being told 461 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: that I don't care about all the death, but I 462 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: don't care about you know, a stupid, vicious, just utterly 463 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: moronic position that people were taking about anyone who would 464 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: ask questions by looking at the data. Because we make 465 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: we make decisions as a society all the time about 466 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 1: what is acceptable risk. There's a different thing too than 467 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: risk versus the certainty of something happening right, we take 468 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: We let people drive cars, and everyone hates this example. 469 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: Oh it's not a bad example. We let people drive cars, 470 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: not not not saying okay, well we're going to have 471 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: you know, we know that the following people are going 472 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 1: to die from this, But we let people drive cars 473 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: knowing that it is possible that people will die from this. 474 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: You know, it is possible that there will be additional 475 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: cases and casualties from COVID nineteen once we begin reopening. 476 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: It's also possible that there really aren't, but we're willing 477 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: to take that risk because of all the factors involved. 478 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: This is life, this is how this is how adults 479 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: make decisions. And we know that you can't have a 480 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: lockdown forever. So why do we keep hearing people say, 481 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: oh no, keep it going as long as you have to. 482 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: There was a transition, they tried to transition the lockdown 483 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: consensus makers out there at the major news organizations, and 484 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: you know that there was there was this culture of 485 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: the lockdown that you were seeing from celebrities. You know, 486 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: here I am in my Malibu mansion and I'm telling 487 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: everybody you must stay lockdown. That's your civic duty. There 488 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: was a culture of this that was that was pervasive. 489 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: But initially it was don't allow the hospitals to be overwhelmed. 490 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: You know, there are hospitals now in New York. Another 491 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: piece in the Wall Street Journal about this Syracuse for example, 492 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: of you know, a good size city in New York State. 493 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: The hospitals are mostly empty, empty, No one can get care, 494 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: no one is able was able to do elective surgeries 495 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: of any kind or do preventative preventive visits to the hospital. 496 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I sit here and I wonder, 497 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: you know, at what point, are we going to be 498 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: able to assess all the people who have teeth rotting 499 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: out of their head? You know? But you might say, oh, 500 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: who cares about that? Actually, a really bad tooth infection 501 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: can become very dangerous. People don't necessarily realize this, but 502 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: dental health can turn into like whole body health real fast. 503 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: How many people haven't had preventative cancer screenings. How many 504 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: people haven't had surgeries, you know, earlier interventions that might 505 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: have led to better outcomes as a result of this, 506 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: there's so many consequences to the shutdown, which was really 507 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: just a policy of panic. Isn't it fascinating? We started 508 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: out this hour talking about the elites panicking because they 509 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: say we're going to panic, right, That's what elite panic is, 510 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, the hoi polloi will be raging in 511 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: the streets. What will we ever do? And then their 512 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: response is what the panic actually comes from? That that 513 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: is the panic telling us all to stay home indefinitely 514 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: and not really knowing how they're going to reintegrate us 515 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: back into our normal lives. How could you have a 516 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: response more steep and panic than that. It's crazy, isn't it? 517 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: And we now see this, We see the numbers, we 518 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: have the data, and the data does not support what 519 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: we've been told all along we should be doing across 520 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: the board, maybe in New York because we got hit 521 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,239 Speaker 1: so badly, because this place where I'm coming to you now, 522 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm here, I'm living it, I'm around it 523 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: all the time. You know. I tried to go into 524 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: a store last night and my mask wasn't covering my nose, 525 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: it was only covering my mouth, and a guy gave 526 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: me the whole hey, fix your mask thing before I 527 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: could walk into the store. Now, look, it's a private business, 528 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: I understand, and I'm willing to comply because that's what 529 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: the business has been told to do and they're they're 530 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: able to set their own regulations. Is a little bit 531 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: like no shoot, pardon me, A little bit like no shirt, 532 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: no shoes, not no to shoot, no shirt, no shoes, 533 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: no service. Well, in New York it's you know, no mask, 534 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: no gloves, no service, or at least no mask, no service, 535 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: gloves or optional. Still, but I don't know how long 536 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: that will last either. So there's this whole movement in 537 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: this city toward making this feel more normal for people 538 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: you're seeing a lot more of these designer masks and 539 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: a lot of efforts to make it seem like this 540 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: is just the way it's going to be for a 541 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: very long time, like we're going into the summer, and 542 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: I think people will eventually get very tired of having 543 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: these things on their faces, especially when they realize that 544 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: your risk. All I do is read the data and 545 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: in the studies all day long. Your risk from outdoor 546 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: from outdoor transmission of this unless somebody is basically in 547 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: physical contact with you or speaking right into your face 548 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: where you can feel like the heat of their breadth, 549 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: your risk of physical transmission from this from all the 550 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: studies they have so far outdoors is insignificant. I mean, 551 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: you have risk from everything, right. You have risk of 552 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: getting terrible staff infection every time you shave and you 553 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: cut yourself and you know you could die from a 554 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: staff infection, But do you stop shaving? And this is 555 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: this is where we have to remind ourselves that there's 556 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: no there's no perfect safety. And this reminds me of 557 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: the conversation we were having as a country after nine 558 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: eleven and with terrorism. People are saying, well, what do 559 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: we have to do to make sure this never happens again. Yeah, 560 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: you can prevent catastrophe with the right measures, or at 561 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: least you can make it harder for catastrophe like that 562 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: to occur because of those evil psychopaths of al Qaeda. 563 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: But there's no eliminating all terrorist at acts. We saw 564 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: this with the rise of the Islamic State and all 565 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: the lone wolf attacks. Here there is no perfect safety. 566 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: And if you if you try for perfect safety through 567 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: state mandates, what you get is the elimination of freedom. 568 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: And you still have risk. You have risk from whatever 569 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: it is the state says they're protecting you from, but 570 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: you also have the risk of a state that has 571 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: become almost all powerful, which should terrify people a lot 572 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: more than pretty much anything else we face out there 573 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: in the real world. I mean, a state going tyrannical. 574 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: If you look at history, you know what, really what 575 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: really gets the body count very high, tyrannical states. That's 576 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: that's worse than worse than pretty much anything we've ever seen. 577 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: I mean, the only exception of that might be the 578 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: Spanish flu pandemic of nineteen eighteen, and that is something 579 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: that's also coming up now in these discussions about mask, 580 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: which I want to I want to transition to for 581 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: a second. You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the 582 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show podcast. You're seeing a lot of this 583 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: pop up now analysis of the pandemic of nineteen eighteen 584 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: and how San Francisco they say had had this under 585 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: control and then they started to ease, and then it 586 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: all came back and then things got so much worse. 587 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: Notice how the NBC News has a piece on this. 588 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: I'm seeing it all over the place, though. Notice how 589 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: the the goal here and shifted. Now it's lockdowns indefinitely 590 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: to prevent the second wave. Wait, I thought it was 591 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: lockdowns to prevent overcrowding of the hospital, and then it 592 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: was just ben the curve. So we have more time 593 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: to figure out more about the disease and allow our 594 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: public health, our public health and doctors and so on 595 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: and so forth to get in a better position to 596 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 1: deal with this. And now it's well, no, we have 597 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: to lock down until we figure out how to prevent 598 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: a second wave through test and trace. But the test 599 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: and trace is never going to be anywhere near what 600 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: it needs to be for us to be able to 601 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: do what they say we need to be able to do, 602 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: which is find out when someone has this and everyone 603 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: they've talked to you right away, and then contain it 604 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: with a three twenty million people in this country. Do 605 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 1: you think the government's going to be Do you think 606 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: there's any way they would have enough effectiveness in test 607 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: and trace that that really is that's a that's a 608 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 1: realistic option for us. This is all just people changing, 609 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: constantly changing where the goalposts are on this and now 610 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: preventing a second wave. Here's what happened in San Francisco. 611 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: They talk about the Anti Mask League. You people didn't 612 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: want to wear masks anymore, and there was all this 613 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: propaganda out there. Quote the man or a woman or 614 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: child who will not wear a mask now is a 615 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: dangerous slacker. A public service announcement from the American Red 616 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: Cross out at the time. This is all in this 617 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: NBC piece. And then there was the Anti Mask League 618 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: and the other other people were saying that, you know 619 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: that masks were not necessary. But here's the problem. They're 620 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: saying that they were flattening the curve, and then it 621 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: came back. Flattening the curve indefinitely is called indefinite lockdown. 622 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: Under the rules that were being set forward for us 623 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: and that destroyed society. We can't do that. So they 624 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,720 Speaker 1: need to stop pretending that indefinite lockdown flattens the curve 625 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: and that means that that's what we're going to do, 626 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: because that's impossible. We're not going to do that. It 627 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: would be not advisable to do that. But there was 628 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: a second outbreak here. Look, the states and states and 629 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: cities right now are playing a lot of games with us. 630 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: They're saying they're reopening, but they're really not. They're saying 631 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 1: that they have a roadmap, but there are afraid to 632 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: enact it. This is why states that live in reality 633 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: and are willing to have leadership that are willing to 634 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: take appropriate risks and show a little courage here we'll 635 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: be what saves us because other states are just going 636 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: to sit on this and sit on this and refuse 637 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 1: to move until states that have taken action are okay, 638 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: which is going to happen. Thanks for listening to the 639 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: Bus Sesson Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast, 640 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. It 641 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 1: bothers me that this is still in the news cycle 642 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: because I think we're missing the bigger pieces of what 643 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: we need to be doing as an American people to 644 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: continue to protect one another. And we should be having 645 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: that dialogue about asymptomatics. We should be having that dialogue 646 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: about this unique clotting that we're seeing. And you know, 647 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: we're the first country that really had young people to 648 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: this degree. Italy and Europe is about eight years older 649 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: than us as a median age. So this is the 650 00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: first experience of this virus in an open society anywhere 651 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: we really can understand what's happening to every different age groups. 652 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: These are the things that we should be talking about 653 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: and focusing on. So I think as a scientist and 654 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: a public health official and a researcher, sometimes I worry 655 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: that we don't get the information to the American people 656 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: that they need when we continue to bring up something 657 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: that was from Thursday night. Oh you mean the media 658 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: is a bunch of irresponsible hacks. Here's doctor Burke's, who 659 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure is going to all of a sudden, you're 660 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: going to see a bit of a change in tone 661 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: from Saint Fauci and Saint Burk's to oh well, why 662 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: is Burkes doing Trump's bidding? You already started to see 663 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: someone over the weekend. She's a hack just doing what 664 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: Trump says. This woman has worked in public health at 665 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: the highest levels for decades, who's been working on saving 666 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: people from HIV, particularly in Africa, where millions and millions 667 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: of lives have been saved by HIV prevention efforts. And 668 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: yet now because she calls out, the media has gotchi games, bullcrap, 669 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: the stuff that we know they're doing. We know they're 670 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: doing it, but they're starting to turn on her. They're 671 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: starting to feel like she's not the super genius that 672 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: we had all been led to believe when she was 673 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: telling us, you know, dealing with what we're effectively worst 674 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: case scenarios on this. They don't. They don't feel quite 675 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: the same way about her right now. That's just it's 676 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: just the reminder, folks that the news media, even right now, 677 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 1: in a crisis, you know, America's house is on fire, 678 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: and the news media wants to run stories on how 679 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,280 Speaker 1: they don't like, you know, they don't like the house owner, 680 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 1: and it's like, well, what are you guys doing? What 681 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: is going on here? They just really can't help it. 682 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: I suppose this is who they are. I mean, they 683 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 1: can't help it. But they they're not going to change. 684 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: This is the reality of the news media that we 685 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,879 Speaker 1: are dealing with, and unfortunately this is the media we're 686 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: stuck with. But I want to note that, you know, 687 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: some states are beginning to open Tennessee, Missouri, Montana. They're 688 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: the last ones, according to Fox News here that have 689 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: that have taken steps toward opening. And you're going to 690 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: see these states are they're going. I mean, I really 691 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 1: believe they're gonna be okay. Not say it's gonna be perfect, 692 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 1: but they're gonna be okay. And then you're going to 693 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: have more pressure on the blue states. But Red states 694 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: are not perfect here either. This is where you get 695 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: the When I say not perfect, I mean that there 696 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,399 Speaker 1: have been things that have happened in some Red states 697 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 1: that are very concerning. This is where you have this story. 698 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: Was it on the on the blaze of a a 699 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: sting operation against women who were trying to women who 700 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: were trying to give nail salon services at home? You know, 701 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: a sting operation? Well, you don't say that's really a 702 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: good usage of police resources, isn't it. That's really something 703 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,879 Speaker 1: that's worth worth people doing trying to trying to paint 704 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: people's nails for them, So the police set up people 705 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: undercover to make sure they get the get the women 706 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 1: who we're trying to make a living by painting people's 707 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: nails at their homes. This is so stupid, it's so absurd, 708 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: But we see this happening. We see this happening in 709 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: state after state, time after time, and it's because that 710 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: there's a there's a mentality here. There are there are 711 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: people who are in positions of authority. There are people 712 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 1: who believe that they are the ones that have to 713 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: tell us how we deal with this and what they're real, 714 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: what acceptable risks are and what are not. And they 715 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: do not like challenges to their authority. They do not 716 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: want to hear about how Sweden is doing well. They 717 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: don't want to hear even about other states that are 718 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: reopening that have not had anywhere near the cases we 719 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: have in the US. You know what, I also think 720 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: a part of this is that everyone recognizes that our 721 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: experts in the scientific community so far we've had mixed 722 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: results at best with the therapeutics that we have available 723 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: to us right now. Who knows if a vaccine is 724 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 1: going to be particularly effective and how soon it will 725 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: be effective how soon we'll actually have one, So waiting 726 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: for medicine to save is I do think that there 727 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: was and look, I'm guilty of this in my own 728 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: my own head. I just the idea that we might 729 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: be able to go back to living normal lives sooner 730 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: because of some huge breakthrough on what could be sweeter, 731 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: what could be greater than that? Right? But no, No, 732 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 1: the same same medical community that can't cure the common 733 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: cold is going to have a challenging time with this. 734 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: I can tell you that right now, medical researchers around 735 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: the world that look, I don't know the first thing 736 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: about any of this, and this is not my area, 737 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: but I'm just telling you, if we're waiting for the 738 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,240 Speaker 1: experts in this realm to just give us the silver bullet, 739 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna be waiting a very long time, and our 740 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: whole society, our whole way of life, will deteriorate around 741 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 1: us while we're playing that waiting game. We can't do that. 742 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: You absolutely cannot allow that to be the way that 743 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: this goes forward. So then we also have the left 744 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 1: and their complaints about all of this, which are I 745 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 1: have to just say, are are stunning, absolutely stunning. Here's 746 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi. And this is a great Pelosi moment in 747 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: that it really distills the esthens of Nancy Pelosi. She's 748 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 1: so shameless, and if we had a real press that 749 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 1: was oppositional and was that was interested in truth, Pelosi 750 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: would be scared to go on any of these shows 751 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: because she would just get constantly blasted for all of 752 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: the misdirection, all the lies, all of the just most 753 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: blatant political crap that she pulls. But instead, she knows 754 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: that she's going into friendly territory all the time, with 755 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: the exception of when when she's on Fox News. And 756 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time Pelosi was on a 757 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 1: Fox News show. Maybe she does the Sunday shows because 758 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: Chris Wallace is a very kind of, you know, neutral 759 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: centrist interviewer, but I don't I don't know that she's 760 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 1: done any of the other Fox News shows recently, because 761 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: she's obviously not going to subject herself to having anyone 762 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 1: ask a question about what a huge fraud she is 763 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: and all of this. But here's Pelosi on the Remember 764 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: you have to remember, you have to remember the timeline here. 765 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: Pelosi was opposed initially to Trump's China travel restriction, said 766 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,839 Speaker 1: that it wasn't it was you know, racist, wasn't good. 767 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna you know, it's not gonna, it's not worth it. 768 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: We shouldn't be doing this. She was a terrible idea. 769 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: And now her criticism is effectively, well, it wasn't enough, 770 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't enough. That that's the shift that 771 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi has made here play clip three. Actually tens 772 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: of thousands of people were still allowed in from China, 773 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: so it wasn't as it is described as this great moment. 774 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 1: There were Americans coming back or Green cardholders coming back, 775 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: but there were tens of thousand. So if you're going 776 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: to shut the door because you have an evaluation of 777 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: an epidemic, then shut the door. Oh oh, so it 778 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: wasn't strong enough is her complaint. Now, and here's the 779 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: problem that Nancy Pelosi has in making this case. Do 780 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: you know what we call those tens of thousands of 781 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 1: Americans who are coming back from China? Americans? So she 782 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: doesn't understand these are citizens and Green card holders. You're 783 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: gonna tell them they can't come back to their home country. Now, 784 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: maybe we should have put them into quarantine right away. 785 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: But hindsight is twenty twenty. But could you imagine the 786 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: outrage from Nancy Pelosi. I don't just mean in general, 787 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: imagine the outrage from Nancy Pelosi if when all this 788 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: was going on, the President had said, well, if you 789 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 1: are coming back from China, obviously we're gonna have a 790 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: fair number of people who are Chinese Americans who are 791 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: coming back from travel there, who are citizens or green 792 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: card holders. And if you come back and you know, 793 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: you're not allowed to come back, never mind even putting 794 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 1: into quarantine right away, you're not allowed to come back. 795 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 1: Find somewhere else to live while we figured this out. 796 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 1: First of all, it's not I don't even know how 797 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 1: you'd deal with the constitutionality of that. I mean, you 798 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: get a lot of problems, you'd have a lot of issues. 799 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 1: But that's now Pelosi's claim what was unnecessary and severe 800 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: is now not severe enough. And she acts like she 801 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 1: knew this all along and she has all the answers. 802 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,320 Speaker 1: Just appalling. I mean, she is a truly appalling and 803 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 1: really deranged by politics at this point, but she manages 804 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 1: to still say this stuff. She manages to continue to 805 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: just make these claims and does not get any of 806 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: the pushback that you would expect does not get anyone, 807 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: you know, asking her real question. I shouldn't say that 808 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: you would expect that you would hope for if we 809 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: had a serious press corps, but we simply don't. But 810 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: then again, Adam Schiff could also run around saying stuff 811 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 1: like this. You remember, this guy is in the House 812 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,839 Speaker 1: Intelligence Committee. He tried to he was the point man 813 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 1: on the pre on the impeachment of the President, which 814 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 1: was just a disgusting exercise. Here's shift place sixteen. I 815 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: don't think we had any idea how much damage she 816 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 1: would go on to do in the months ahead. There 817 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: are fifty thousand Americans now who are dead, in significant 818 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: part because of his incompetence, because of his inability to 819 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: think beyond himself and put the country first. I don't 820 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: think we would have ever anticipated that his brand of 821 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 1: narcissism and his brand of incompetence, sometimes his brand of 822 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,800 Speaker 1: malevolence would be so fatal to the American people. But probably, 823 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 1: you know, the strongest echo of what we were talking 824 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 1: about during the trial was when he was earlier talking 825 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: about how he didn't want to return the calls from governers. 826 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 1: He didn't want his vice president to return calls from 827 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,799 Speaker 1: governors that weren't saying nice things about him, that really 828 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: weren't saying things about him that he could then turn 829 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: into campaign commercials, as indeed he has. That was such 830 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 1: a profound and disturbing echo of what he tried to 831 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,800 Speaker 1: do with Ukraine. So sadly, you know, as we pointed 832 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,280 Speaker 1: out during the trial, a man with no moral compass 833 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 1: will never find his way, and this president certainly hasn't. 834 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,280 Speaker 1: Does anyone think that Adam Schiff has a moral compass? 835 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: Adam Schiff might be to slimy, most dishonest person in 836 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 1: the entire United States Congress, which is a remarkable feat. 837 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,320 Speaker 1: And now that's a truly stunning accomplishment for somebody to have, 838 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: given how many liars and how many disgraces are in 839 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: the Congress. But he's also he sounds like a crazy 840 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 1: person here. Yeah, Trump is a responsi for fifty thousand deaths. 841 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,800 Speaker 1: Notice the problem they they will have as they continue 842 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:25,320 Speaker 1: this line of really just gutter attack, I mean just 843 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 1: the grossest, most underhanded, most despicable politics. Are all of 844 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 1: the European countries, are all their prime ministers guilty of 845 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 1: murder too. Do they all have blood on their hands? 846 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: In fact, find me a major country does. Does any 847 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 1: government not have blood on its hands? And at what 848 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 1: point if every government has blood on its hands, what 849 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: does that even really mean other than governments can't protect you. 850 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,360 Speaker 1: Governments are incompetent by their nature. They are going to 851 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,839 Speaker 1: disappoint you. If you think that a government is there 852 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,919 Speaker 1: to be your friend and keep you safe, you're wrong. 853 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,760 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter who the leader is, that's not the function 854 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,320 Speaker 1: of government. They do. It does what it can in 855 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: this case to try to protect this but it's always 856 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: going to disappoint you. It's never going to be enough. 857 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,959 Speaker 1: But you won't hear that from the Democrats. You won't 858 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: hear that. Instead, you'll hear the usual attacks about how 859 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:21,360 Speaker 1: Trump is completely and utterly bereft of any moral compass, 860 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: and he's a terrible person, and he's responsible for all this. Meanwhile, 861 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 1: they offer up none other than Joe Biden as the 862 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 1: answer here, as if Joe Biden would do such a 863 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 1: better job figuring all this out. Oh oh, and in 864 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 1: case you're wondering now, Pelosi has in fact endorsed Joe Biden. Oh, 865 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,799 Speaker 1: this is a this is a big one, folks. Ooh, 866 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 1: this is really going to move the needle play at 867 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 1: Mark today. I am proud to endorse Joe Biden for 868 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 1: President of the United States because he will be an 869 00:48:53,200 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: extraordinary president. He knows how to get the job done. Yeah, 870 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,320 Speaker 1: that's right, Joe Biden. That's who they say, we do 871 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 1: a better. We're dealing with an enormously complicated issue, really 872 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: a once in a century pandemic. And if only the 873 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 1: guy who talks about the weird blonde hairs on his 874 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,800 Speaker 1: legs and sniffs women's heads, by his own admission and 875 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 1: by photographic evidence, and now has a completely credible and 876 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: I really mean credible sexual assault allegation against him from 877 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 1: when he was a United States senator. That's the person 878 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 1: the Democrats are telling you, if only he were in charge, 879 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: this would all be so much better. They can't really 880 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 1: believe this, but we know that it doesn't matter whether 881 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 1: they believe it or not. It's useful to them right now. 882 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,799 Speaker 1: What is the only principle the Democratic Party holds firm 883 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: to the pursuit of power, which is not really a principle. 884 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 1: That's the only thing they really care about. Everything else 885 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: is pushed aside at a moment's notice, anything else is 886 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: completely disposable. I mean Nancy Pelosi and morality. That's that's funny, right, 887 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 1: that's a joke. But I want to talk about how 888 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 1: the media is trying to handle the fact that now 889 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 1: the word is out and after all this stuff against Kavanaugh. 890 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: And we will talk a little bit more about the 891 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,320 Speaker 1: general Flint situation too, because we're getting more answers about this. 892 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,800 Speaker 1: Oh you you're humble conservative hosts like yours truly and 893 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 1: among others. Somehow, we've been right on Russia collusion, We've 894 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,280 Speaker 1: been right on General Flynn, we were right on Kavanna, 895 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 1: right on these things all along, and the facts, additional 896 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 1: facts after those fights were had in public, proved that 897 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 1: to be the case. But do you see any any 898 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,800 Speaker 1: penance from the media whatsoever about their efforts to destroy 899 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: these people. Do you see anyone caring about how wrong 900 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,360 Speaker 1: they've been all along on the the mainstream media. No, 901 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 1: of course not, because they knew that they were serving 902 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 1: a purpose at the time. That was what mattered. But 903 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 1: let's let's take a look at the Joe Biden situation. 904 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 1: You're in the freedom hunt. This is the buck sex 905 00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:04,399 Speaker 1: and show podcast. You will recall during the Kavanaugh destruction 906 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 1: effort by the media, you will recall that there was 907 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:14,840 Speaker 1: no evidence whatsoever of contemporaneous corroboration. In fact, the effort 908 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:20,359 Speaker 1: to destroy Kavanaugh revolved entirely around women who had increasingly 909 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:27,799 Speaker 1: implausible claims of sexual assault, starting with the least obviously 910 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 1: false that you called that with Christine Blasiford, and then 911 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,920 Speaker 1: going over to Deborah Ramirez and I can say this, 912 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,399 Speaker 1: if you were in college and somebody put their their 913 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 1: genitalia in your face, I don't think you would need, 914 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 1: as she claimed she did a week of coaching by 915 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 1: lawyers to help you figure out if, in fact that 916 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 1: thing happened to you. That strikes me as highly implausible. 917 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: But that was what we were told, and also other 918 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 1: people that were there at Yale University at the time 919 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,360 Speaker 1: remembered no such incident, did not believe that it happened, 920 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: no corroboration whatsoever. And then you got to the Julie 921 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 1: Sweatne case, where the media was willing to with no 922 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 1: again evidence of any kind other than a clearly delusional 923 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 1: person seeking attention. And there were others. As I've told you, 924 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 1: there were women who came forward who said that Brett 925 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 1: kavanol raped them on a boat in a state he 926 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 1: had never been to. So there were people who came forward. 927 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: You know, we were being told in this instance that 928 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 1: women have a right to be believed, and there were 929 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,319 Speaker 1: women who lied as a matter of record, because that's 930 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 1: why the Senate Democrats didn't even produce those allegations. There 931 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,719 Speaker 1: were people who this was an all hands on deck 932 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 1: effort to destroy a person who was viewed as a 933 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 1: threat to Roe v. Wade, as a threat to the 934 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,359 Speaker 1: liberals preferred composition of the Supreme Court. So it wasn't 935 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 1: anything goes situation. It wasn't anything goes moment. But even 936 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 1: blasi Ford was never even able to prove that she 937 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 1: had met met Brett Kavanaugh. Never no record of anyone 938 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 1: saying that they ever hung out, knew each other, were 939 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,359 Speaker 1: even in the same room. She claims that she went 940 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,080 Speaker 1: to a party, that she did not know how she 941 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 1: got there, who invited her, where the house was, what 942 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 1: house it was, and that he attacked her, and that 943 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 1: she doesn't know how she got home or who picked 944 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 1: her up or anything else, and she thought it was 945 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 1: the wrong year also, which is left out of all 946 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,879 Speaker 1: of that too. Oh okay, so pretty much every fact 947 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 1: she had was either not a fact or was wrong. 948 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: But she knew it was Brett Kavanaugh. Couldn't have been 949 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 1: someone else, couldn't have been some other guy that was, 950 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 1: you know, grabbing at her when he was drunk at 951 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,719 Speaker 1: this party, which the thing that know happens all too often. 952 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: I mean, this is part of the problem is that 953 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,799 Speaker 1: this is that there are far too many people who 954 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 1: are victims of this kind of conduct, and when someone 955 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 1: comes forward with a politically charged allegation that does not 956 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 1: have any facts behind it, it does affect perception of 957 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 1: how often people are telling the truth with this. It 958 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,799 Speaker 1: just does. So it's wrong. It hurts real survivors when 959 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 1: this happens, when people say things that are clearly untrue. 960 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 1: For reasons that we all understand. Right, this was a 961 00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 1: Supreme Court seat, and this was considered a sacred duty 962 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 1: of women on the left to try and destroy Kavanaugh. 963 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 1: Here's the problem now with the Joe Biden situation as 964 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 1: we know it. The problem is that there is now 965 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,759 Speaker 1: not only an allegation that is credible that relies on 966 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 1: already established contact between the two of them, there's what 967 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 1: we believe is video and audio evidence of contemporaneous corroboration. 968 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,240 Speaker 1: And not only that, but CNN had it in its archives. 969 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 1: I'll bring you up to speed on this at a moment. 970 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Bus Sesson Show podcast. Remember 971 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 1: to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever 972 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. So here's where we are with 973 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,880 Speaker 1: with the Democrat nominee for the presidency, Joe Biden. As 974 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 1: I've already told you, the way that the media, the 975 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,200 Speaker 1: national press treated the Kavanaugh situation was that any allegation 976 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,280 Speaker 1: against him was to be believed, no matter how flimsy 977 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,840 Speaker 1: it was in terms of evidence, or even how not 978 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 1: credible it would seem at first at first look. And 979 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,800 Speaker 1: that was a situation where there were there were a 980 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 1: lot of people that said that they didn't believe it 981 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 1: had happened, or that they couldn't give corroboration for it, 982 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,880 Speaker 1: there was no evidence that could be presented. But the 983 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,840 Speaker 1: standard was not only should a woman a woman have 984 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: a right to be believe. The standard was that if 985 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,239 Speaker 1: there's even a doubt that is created about this person's ability, 986 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:30,560 Speaker 1: if there is any doubt whatsoever, then ability to do 987 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,880 Speaker 1: this job you credibly and in the eyes of the public, 988 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,920 Speaker 1: then we deserve something better, so that person should step down. 989 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,759 Speaker 1: That was the standard for Kavanaugh, that the media is 990 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,719 Speaker 1: set up and that we were told we should all 991 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,800 Speaker 1: adhere to. How can that now not be the standard 992 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,440 Speaker 1: if it's for a Supreme Court justice, how can it 993 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 1: not be the standard for a president? Now? We all 994 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 1: know that they covered up stuff with Bill Clinton for 995 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 1: a long time too, that Bill Clinton was credibly accused, 996 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 1: credibly accused of rape. We know that right that that 997 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: is on the record, that has been long established. Media 998 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 1: didn't care. But now in they Post me too era, 999 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:11,440 Speaker 1: when they were so clear, so definite, and what the 1000 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 1: standards were for gate for gauging this kind of conduct, 1001 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 1: for deciding what should happen and what's beliefable and what's not. 1002 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,760 Speaker 1: They're willing to toss this all out because of politics. 1003 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 1: We know this. Here's the problem that they currently have 1004 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,840 Speaker 1: to deal with. And they're going to go through a 1005 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 1: lot of supposed soul searching and processing, and they're gonna 1006 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 1: use a lot of fancy words that mean one thing 1007 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,560 Speaker 1: and one thing only. They're not gonna do squat about 1008 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 1: this they're not gonna do anything about it. They're just 1009 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 1: gonna say, oh, yeah, we talked about it, we covered it. 1010 00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:40,840 Speaker 1: We covered it in the back of the newspaper. We 1011 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 1: didn't mention it on air on TV. But sure, yeah, no, 1012 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 1: we covered it. We're still looking, We're still researching. They're 1013 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 1: going to be researching Joe Biden's sexual assault allegations in 1014 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 1: twenty years, meaning they're never going to really research it. 1015 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 1: They're just gonna keep saying that, oh no, we're still 1016 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 1: looking at it, still trying to figure stuff out. Here's 1017 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 1: a problem though, you know, we were also told a 1018 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 1: contemporary corroboration is meaningful, right because at least that establishes 1019 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,320 Speaker 1: that the person did not, as I believe the kavanauc 1020 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,360 Speaker 1: users did, come up out of nowhere with I'm going 1021 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 1: to be a hero to women, to the women's movement 1022 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 1: to the left by destroying this guy before he can 1023 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 1: be on the Supreme Court. And so they just made 1024 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,520 Speaker 1: up stories. People that knew him from his life, but 1025 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 1: they just made it up. The problem that Biden has 1026 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,640 Speaker 1: is that this isn't somebody who just made it up. 1027 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,920 Speaker 1: Now because she doesn't want Biden to be president, this 1028 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,040 Speaker 1: is somebody who according to what we now have as 1029 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 1: at least circumstantial evidence. According to circumstantial evidence, she was 1030 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 1: telling people about this at the time, and all the 1031 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 1: timeline all matches up for when she left the job 1032 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:49,959 Speaker 1: and what she did next. Here is audio of terror 1033 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:55,439 Speaker 1: Reid's mother back in nineteen ninety three allegedly calling into 1034 00:57:55,560 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 1: CNN to discuss how her daughter was something bad happened 1035 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 1: to her and it was from a prominent politician. Here 1036 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 1: this is what the audio of it sounds like. Playcliff 1037 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 1: two back a couple more phone calls on this very 1038 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 1: important topic. Our guests are former United States Senator Howard Baker, 1039 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,360 Speaker 1: Richard Allen, former National Security advisor, and Lois Romano of 1040 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:23,439 Speaker 1: The Washington Post, San Luis Obispo, California. Hello, Yeah, Hello, 1041 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm wondering what a staffer would to do besides go 1042 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,480 Speaker 1: to the press in Washington. My daughter has just left 1043 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 1: there after working for a prominent senator and could not 1044 00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,920 Speaker 1: get through with her problems at all. And the only 1045 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 1: thing she could have done was go to the press, 1046 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,080 Speaker 1: and she chose not to do it out of respect 1047 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 1: for you, or she had a story to tell, but 1048 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 1: out of respect for the person she worked for. She 1049 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 1: didn't tell them, that's true. But these are the people 1050 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 1: who do come to the lowest romanos, right the staff 1051 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 1: worker who says, I want to let you know about 1052 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 1: what's going on down the hall. And a lot of 1053 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,240 Speaker 1: these people had a sense of applegate. They feel that 1054 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 1: this public officials should be accountable if it's something blowers 1055 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 1: to the president. Guess where Tara Reid's mother was living 1056 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety three when that phone call was made 1057 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 1: to the Larry King Show, San Luis Obispo, California. Guess 1058 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 1: when Tara Reid had just left her job right around then. 1059 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,440 Speaker 1: People who have heard, including Tara Reid have heard the audio, said, yep, 1060 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,000 Speaker 1: that's Tara Reid's mother. So what are we to make 1061 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 1: of this? She clearly had a problem with Biden back then. 1062 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 1: It made her leave her job, and it was so 1063 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 1: troubling that even her mother was calling into Larry King 1064 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 1: Show to say, I'm more. You know, this is the situation. 1065 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 1: So she didn't just come up with this story now 1066 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,320 Speaker 1: because she doesn't want Biden to be president and she 1067 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,680 Speaker 1: likes Trump. In fact, I'll understand she's a Democrat, but 1068 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure that won't get that won't get much play. 1069 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,920 Speaker 1: So what do the Democrats do about this? You know 1070 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,680 Speaker 1: what's funny is we all know what they're going to do, 1071 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 1: which is nothing. This will just this will just be 1072 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 1: treated like it. It's a thing that we all know 1073 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:05,320 Speaker 1: but cannot be spoken of, can't talk about. This doesn't 1074 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 1: have any residents, doesn't have any impact or power. Joe 1075 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 1: Biden has to beat Donald Trump. That's all that matters. 1076 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Nothing else matters. I really believe that that the Democrat 1077 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Party could find out that Joe Biden had a long 1078 01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 1: history of this. And I would note that bosses who 1079 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 1: tend to grab women and penetrate them against their will, 1080 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 1: which is what the allegation is here, tends tend not 1081 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 1: to be a one off thing. There are bosses who 1082 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 1: do this, and they tend to be predators. And that's 1083 01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,240 Speaker 1: that's usually what you find out in there and when 1084 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:38,840 Speaker 1: you do a deep dive into their background and how 1085 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 1: they've really been. So is this woman even the only 1086 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,080 Speaker 1: one with Biden? But I'll tell you this, if five 1087 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,800 Speaker 1: women came forward and said that Biden did this, you know, 1088 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 1: you know what the response would be from the media, 1089 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:53,360 Speaker 1: from the press. Well, women accused Trump too, so can't 1090 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 1: do anything about this? What aboutism, the double standards? It's 1091 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,440 Speaker 1: going to be jaw dropping. All the people in the 1092 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,479 Speaker 1: media who were claiming that Kavanaugh should step down coming 1093 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 1: they believe Kavanaugh there and their politics were quite obvious 1094 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 1: in that whole process. They're the same people now who 1095 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:16,080 Speaker 1: are not saying anything about what the allegations against Joe 1096 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 1: Biden are. And I would note so I also think 1097 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,680 Speaker 1: that this is important. I think this is something that 1098 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,040 Speaker 1: we need to keep in mind. There's no accountability whatsoever 1099 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,760 Speaker 1: for the press doing what they did, the lies that 1100 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 1: they told, the willingness to cast aside any effort at impartiality, 1101 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:42,760 Speaker 1: at being nonpartisan and being wrong. They were wrong. They're 1102 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 1: wrong about Kavanaugh, and they're going to feign ignorance and 1103 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 1: stupidity about Biden because what else are they going to do. 1104 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,960 Speaker 1: There's nothing about this allegation that rings false. And if 1105 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,000 Speaker 1: five women came forward and said that Joe Biden had 1106 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,040 Speaker 1: done this to them, they would still say the same thing. Nope, 1107 01:01:58,240 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 1: none of them have a right to be believed. Too 1108 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,880 Speaker 1: much at stake here for the left, too much power. 1109 01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,320 Speaker 1: They hate Trump that much. How how can anybody who's 1110 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,040 Speaker 1: a journalist be taken seriously with this. I mean, you 1111 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 1: go back and look at what people were saying on 1112 01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,680 Speaker 1: the left, what the Democrat media was saying about cabin 1113 01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 1: at the time. Those who believed all this, they've set 1114 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 1: a standard here that they just simply are going to 1115 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 1: forget that they set. They're going to just pretend it 1116 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,400 Speaker 1: never happened. Because these people, I really tell you this, 1117 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 1: among the worst human beings in America in professional life 1118 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,920 Speaker 1: who are treated generally well and think that they're important 1119 01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 1: are mainstream journalists. They're among the worst people in the 1120 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 1: country in any profession. Yeah, there's, like, you know, cartel 1121 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 1: hitmen who are worse, But I'm saying for a profession 1122 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,600 Speaker 1: that thinks of itself as being elite and worthwhile and 1123 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 1: really important to the functioning of our republic, journalism is 1124 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,880 Speaker 1: rotten in America. Not all journalists are rotten, but journalism 1125 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,760 Speaker 1: in general is rotten. There's no other explanation for how 1126 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,080 Speaker 1: this Joe Biden allegation is being handled versus the way 1127 01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 1: that the cabin All situation was handled. Do you think 1128 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 1: it's CNN found this in its archives? I would note Noope, 1129 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,880 Speaker 1: someone else had to go and find this in CNN's archives. Wow. 1130 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:08,720 Speaker 1: You mean that the same media that was able to 1131 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:13,840 Speaker 1: find a ten year old, you know, off off stage 1132 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:18,640 Speaker 1: Mike moment with Billy Bush and President Trump to try 1133 01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,440 Speaker 1: to destroy him, a classic October surprise as dirty as 1134 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,120 Speaker 1: against right before the election. You mean that same mainstream 1135 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,760 Speaker 1: media couldn't figure out this. It had to be brought 1136 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,520 Speaker 1: to CNN's attention. Oh wow. I don't think anybody's even 1137 01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,360 Speaker 1: a little bit surprised by that. I'm a CNN is 1138 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,560 Speaker 1: on an anti Trump jihad. We all know that they've 1139 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,320 Speaker 1: been on it for years. They're not going to change, 1140 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 1: but we don't have to show them respect as a 1141 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:42,080 Speaker 1: media organization, as a journalistic enterprise, because they don't deserve 1142 01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,720 Speaker 1: respect for either of those things. They don't deserve respect 1143 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,880 Speaker 1: in general. And to all the women out there that 1144 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:50,600 Speaker 1: I know who wanted to believe the press was being 1145 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,280 Speaker 1: fair and what it was saying about Kavanaugh, I would 1146 01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:57,000 Speaker 1: want to know, how could anyone try to claim that 1147 01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 1: what's going on right now where you have a Democrat 1148 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,680 Speaker 1: nominee for the presidency who has been incredibly accused of 1149 01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,480 Speaker 1: sexual assault by a woman who can who did know 1150 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 1: him who was alone with him and who does have 1151 01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 1: now contemporary's corroboration or having told other people about the 1152 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 1: story back in nineteen ninety three. Is it okay if 1153 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,000 Speaker 1: Joe Biden does it? What is the standard? What is 1154 01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,280 Speaker 1: the standard that they are operating under now? They need 1155 01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,280 Speaker 1: to establish this? Do they excuse Joe Biden because he's 1156 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 1: too important to Democrats? I mean, that is what they're doing. 1157 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:29,920 Speaker 1: But I just want I want them to verbalize it. 1158 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,680 Speaker 1: I want them to have to say it. Why is 1159 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,880 Speaker 1: this okay? You know, CNN, I don't think has done 1160 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,320 Speaker 1: a single story on this. What a trash heap of 1161 01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:45,040 Speaker 1: an organization that place is. It's really appalling. You're in 1162 01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:48,680 Speaker 1: the Freedom Hud. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. 1163 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,480 Speaker 1: Would it be a mistake if Joe Biden didn't pick 1164 01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 1: a woman of caller to be his running mate a president? 1165 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,440 Speaker 1: Biden will do what he has always on, which is 1166 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:04,240 Speaker 1: respect and value communities of color. I think he understands 1167 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,040 Speaker 1: that black communities and people of color are vital to 1168 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 1: the success of the Democratic Party, and I think he's 1169 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,320 Speaker 1: going to pick the right person. I of course think 1170 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,880 Speaker 1: that a woman of color can bring certain attributes we 1171 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,080 Speaker 1: have to lift up marginalized communities, communities that do not 1172 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 1: trust that they will be served because they have been 1173 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,960 Speaker 1: the hardest hit by this pandemic. In the state of 1174 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,080 Speaker 1: Georgia alone. While we're only thirty two percent of the population, 1175 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:30,040 Speaker 1: African Americans comprise fifty four percent of the deaths. And 1176 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,560 Speaker 1: so yes, having a woman of color on the ticket 1177 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,920 Speaker 1: will help promote not only diversity but trust. But I 1178 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,240 Speaker 1: trust Joe Biden to pick the person he thinks is 1179 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 1: the right running mate for him. Man, the media is 1180 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,320 Speaker 1: really helping out with the Stacey Abrams for VP campaign, 1181 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,160 Speaker 1: aren't they keep on giving her as much of a 1182 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:47,800 Speaker 1: platform as I can. Remember, this is a woman who 1183 01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,560 Speaker 1: lost the Georgia governor's race and then went around saying 1184 01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 1: that she wanted so you know, she's got great judgment. 1185 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,640 Speaker 1: But they're really doing everything they can to try to help, 1186 01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,000 Speaker 1: in part because, you know, Chuck Todd putting an African 1187 01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,760 Speaker 1: American female on his show that he's elevating as a 1188 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,640 Speaker 1: likely Joe Biden or possible Joe Biden pick makes, you know, 1189 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,480 Speaker 1: makes Chuck Todd feel like he's doing his part for 1190 01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:13,320 Speaker 1: diversity and wokeness and doing what the left would want 1191 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,200 Speaker 1: him to do you see this in a lot of 1192 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 1: these other Sunday shows as well. I bring this up 1193 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 1: because you had I think a handful of different possible, 1194 01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,920 Speaker 1: possible vice presidential picks for Biden that we're showing up 1195 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,560 Speaker 1: on the Sunday shows, which I don't really I mean, 1196 01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,440 Speaker 1: I think the Sunday shows are overwhelmingly garbage. I think 1197 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,560 Speaker 1: they're trash. I think they're not very good. You know, 1198 01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,920 Speaker 1: there's this old sort of inside DC we need to have, 1199 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,560 Speaker 1: you know, the old Tim Russert model of things. It's 1200 01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,440 Speaker 1: all gone now. I mean, Chuck Todd is an intense 1201 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,360 Speaker 1: mediocrity and everyone knows it, and so are these other 1202 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,360 Speaker 1: people that have these Sunday Jake Tapper, he's the most 1203 01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:51,520 Speaker 1: boring man on television. But you know, whatever, they they 1204 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,000 Speaker 1: do this, they have these Sunday shows. And how many 1205 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,680 Speaker 1: of them do you think asked Biden's vice presidential candidates, 1206 01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,960 Speaker 1: especially in the case of Stacey Abrams, a female, what 1207 01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,600 Speaker 1: do you think about the credible sexual assault allegation against 1208 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,200 Speaker 1: Joe Biden? Do you think any of them got to 1209 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:11,480 Speaker 1: ask that question? Nope, escape right past that one. Why 1210 01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,880 Speaker 1: is that? How can you be a journalist when you 1211 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,040 Speaker 1: have a president a presidential contender. You only have two 1212 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,160 Speaker 1: men left in this race now it's Biden and Trump. 1213 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,760 Speaker 1: One of them has and it's just come to light 1214 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:26,560 Speaker 1: that there's contemporaneous corroboration of the sexual assault allegation against Biden. 1215 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:30,440 Speaker 1: How can you not ask that question? See, this goes 1216 01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,200 Speaker 1: to everything that we talk about here all the time, 1217 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,120 Speaker 1: which is the bias that's going on, that people are 1218 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,720 Speaker 1: pursuing an ideological agenda. And it's why you shouldn't watch 1219 01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,040 Speaker 1: ABC News tonight, even though I think like twelve million 1220 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:43,080 Speaker 1: people do. You should listen to people that actually tell 1221 01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,200 Speaker 1: you what's true and who share your values and your 1222 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,760 Speaker 1: view because the information is already out there. We all 1223 01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:52,120 Speaker 1: have access to more information than ever before. It's what values, 1224 01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,440 Speaker 1: what principles do you apply to it? What analysis do 1225 01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,040 Speaker 1: you do with it? What do you think the takeaways are? 1226 01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,320 Speaker 1: How do you use judgment and how do you tell 1227 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,760 Speaker 1: people to go forward once they have that information? Right? 1228 01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:08,360 Speaker 1: That that's what differentiates not having someone who looks and 1229 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,840 Speaker 1: sounds fancy and who has really cool intro music and 1230 01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:13,960 Speaker 1: is on ABC News or you know, any of these 1231 01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:18,040 Speaker 1: other platforms, or you can watch CNN and have the 1232 01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 1: likes of Jim Acosta still present himself as just just 1233 01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:26,000 Speaker 1: an honest, objective journal man Play fifteen. I mean, I 1234 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,880 Speaker 1: know why the President didn't take questions this evening. It's 1235 01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,440 Speaker 1: interesting me that Kaylee Mckininny, you know, the new spokesperson 1236 01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,600 Speaker 1: who you know is over the top in her you know, 1237 01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:39,800 Speaker 1: Soviet like praise of or rewriting of history on things, 1238 01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,920 Speaker 1: would say one thing, and then the president. They clearly 1239 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,560 Speaker 1: didn't even coordinate their lives. They didn't Anderson, and I 1240 01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,840 Speaker 1: think we found out today that the President's words have meeting, 1241 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:54,280 Speaker 1: but they're also at times hazardous to your health. And 1242 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,559 Speaker 1: I think that was part of what we learned today 1243 01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,439 Speaker 1: and go into your point in orson there just isn't 1244 01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,560 Speaker 1: enough disinfectant at the White House to wash away what 1245 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,080 Speaker 1: the President did and the lies that were told to 1246 01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,200 Speaker 1: try to cover it up. I will tell you, Anderson, 1247 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,439 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why he cut short that briefing 1248 01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,280 Speaker 1: earlier this evening, my sources tell me, is because the 1249 01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,559 Speaker 1: President was upset about the flak he was taking over 1250 01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,160 Speaker 1: his comments that people could use disinfectants to kill the 1251 01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:23,080 Speaker 1: coronavirus inside their bodies. Yeah, objective journals. There. You got 1252 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,280 Speaker 1: one guy who's a news anchor, Anderson Cooper quote news anchor. 1253 01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,400 Speaker 1: First of all, it really doesn't sound particularly articulate there, 1254 01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,040 Speaker 1: does he? You know, like yeah, you know, I mean yeah, 1255 01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,479 Speaker 1: you know, like Kiley mcinanny, you know, I mean you 1256 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 1: go back and listen to Its really been that guy 1257 01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,479 Speaker 1: fifteen million a year something like that, ten fifteen million 1258 01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,880 Speaker 1: a year for a job that you could replace him 1259 01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:43,800 Speaker 1: tomorrow and nobody would care and nobody would notice. But 1260 01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:45,920 Speaker 1: you know, Jeff Zucker likes him so and he's the 1261 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,519 Speaker 1: brand over there whatever that means, not Jeff Zucker Anderson Cooper. 1262 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,360 Speaker 1: And then you have Jim Acosta, who I mean, who 1263 01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:56,640 Speaker 1: was clownish in his partisan ship. And we got all 1264 01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,120 Speaker 1: these things going on this country. You know, why is 1265 01:09:58,160 --> 01:09:59,880 Speaker 1: it that I'm here telling you about the data, talking 1266 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,400 Speaker 1: about Sweden, about lockdowns, about all this and these other everything. 1267 01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,800 Speaker 1: It's the nag is about Trump, Trump bad, Orange Man 1268 01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,280 Speaker 1: bad Trump bad oh an MSNBC. I mean, it's it's 1269 01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:12,679 Speaker 1: the same thing over there. It's not like they're any better. 1270 01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:17,120 Speaker 1: Here's a crazy Joe Scarborough. Is he still somehow listed 1271 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:18,840 Speaker 1: as a conservative. I just want to know what the 1272 01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,480 Speaker 1: I mean. Joe Scarborough is the Jennifer Rubin of conservative 1273 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,519 Speaker 1: male TV pundits in that all he does is bash 1274 01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,640 Speaker 1: the right, but still claims to have some affiliation with 1275 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,080 Speaker 1: the right. I guess the guy's just a jerk too. 1276 01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:31,519 Speaker 1: People and I know they work with them, say he's 1277 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,240 Speaker 1: not a nice not a nice guy. I'm really full 1278 01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:37,120 Speaker 1: of himself, which I know another guy who's intellectually deeply 1279 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,519 Speaker 1: mediocre and has just played the game right, the corporate game, 1280 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,680 Speaker 1: and gotten into a good position for himself financially, I mean, 1281 01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,879 Speaker 1: not ethically, morally, or in terms of his contribution to society. 1282 01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,479 Speaker 1: Play four. And the President had just said a couple 1283 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,000 Speaker 1: of months earlier that it was just one person coming 1284 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:55,800 Speaker 1: in from China was going to be swept away, or 1285 01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:59,479 Speaker 1: it was eleven or fifteen people. Finn. Let me just say, then, 1286 01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:05,320 Speaker 1: the twenty fifth Amendment is de facto abolished. And I'm not, 1287 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,720 Speaker 1: of course, I'm not. We've got an election coming up. 1288 01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that this is what Democrats should push for, 1289 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,880 Speaker 1: because it would only distract I'm just saying, like my 1290 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:18,040 Speaker 1: con law professor said about the tenth Amendment, that the 1291 01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:22,719 Speaker 1: growth of massive growth of government in effect made void 1292 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,200 Speaker 1: for all practical purposes, the tenth Amendment. You can add 1293 01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,080 Speaker 1: the twenty fifth Amendment to that right now, because this 1294 01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,800 Speaker 1: president is behaving in a way that is so dangerous 1295 01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:36,000 Speaker 1: and extraordinarily irrational in the middle of a pandemic that 1296 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:40,760 Speaker 1: is changing history, that is destroying our economy day by day, 1297 01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:45,640 Speaker 1: that's killing people, especially seniors, day by day. That if 1298 01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,080 Speaker 1: it were ever going to be used, it would be used. 1299 01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,360 Speaker 1: Now it's not going to be used. So why don't 1300 01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,600 Speaker 1: we just stop, Why don't we just stop pretending that 1301 01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,000 Speaker 1: we have a twenty fifth Amendment because we really, for 1302 01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,240 Speaker 1: all purposes, we don't. No, it's not a good point, 1303 01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:03,040 Speaker 1: and they're both just not very bright. Thanks for listening 1304 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,519 Speaker 1: to The bus Essen Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on 1305 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,680 Speaker 1: Apple podcast, at the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you 1306 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:13,160 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. North Korea has been in the news 1307 01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:16,599 Speaker 1: a lot lately, and I wanted to break down everything 1308 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,040 Speaker 1: that's going on, separate fact from fiction. And to help 1309 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:20,920 Speaker 1: us do that, we are joined by a true expert 1310 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,799 Speaker 1: in the field, Bruce Klinger. He's a senior research fellow 1311 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,280 Speaker 1: at the Heritage Foundation. He spent twenty years at my 1312 01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,960 Speaker 1: old my old spot, the CIA, but he's spent a 1313 01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:32,880 Speaker 1: lot more time there than I did. Mister Klinger, thanks 1314 01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,720 Speaker 1: so much for joining us. Well, thanks for having me. 1315 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,479 Speaker 1: All right, so let's just start with why is North 1316 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,320 Speaker 1: Korea getting all this attention? There was maybe Kim Jong 1317 01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:44,479 Speaker 1: ung is dead, Maybe he's really sick. Ohaid, No, he's not. 1318 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,719 Speaker 1: What happened and where are we now on that? Well, 1319 01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:51,200 Speaker 1: as you point out, there are an awful lot of rumors, 1320 01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:55,639 Speaker 1: everything from he's dead, he's brain dead, he's incapacitated from 1321 01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,400 Speaker 1: a heart attack, a failed heart operation, even from a 1322 01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:03,759 Speaker 1: failed to launch that he was observing. At the other end, US, 1323 01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,880 Speaker 1: South Korea and Chinese officials are saying he's fine, either 1324 01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,920 Speaker 1: because we see nothing unusual in North Korea, or some 1325 01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,280 Speaker 1: would say they have information that he's fine. The bottom 1326 01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,720 Speaker 1: line is, we don't know. When I worked in North 1327 01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:20,519 Speaker 1: Korea at CIA, it was the hardest of the hard 1328 01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:25,000 Speaker 1: targets in retrospect. Before that, I'd worked the Soviet Union, 1329 01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,519 Speaker 1: which was an open book compared to North Korea. So 1330 01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,120 Speaker 1: you know, on the one hand, there's nothing unusual that 1331 01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:35,479 Speaker 1: we can see. There's no real hard information on Kim's condition, 1332 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,639 Speaker 1: There have been many reports, false reports over the years 1333 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:43,040 Speaker 1: of failing health or death of Kim as well as 1334 01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:47,000 Speaker 1: the two predecessors, and then they came out re emerged fine. 1335 01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,600 Speaker 1: So those of us who have been watching for a 1336 01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:53,599 Speaker 1: long time, we tend to be fairly conservative in jumping 1337 01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,080 Speaker 1: to conclusions. We've been through a lot of these rumors, 1338 01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,160 Speaker 1: so they may be true. He may be toes up 1339 01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:02,240 Speaker 1: on a slab, but it could also be yet another 1340 01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:06,280 Speaker 1: instance of false rumors and he just re emerges, either 1341 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,840 Speaker 1: after recuperating or he was never in sickness at all. 1342 01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,880 Speaker 1: And what would be the succession plan if such a 1343 01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,040 Speaker 1: thing really even is known or exists. There was a 1344 01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:19,160 Speaker 1: lot of Internet chatter over the weekend about the possibility 1345 01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:23,560 Speaker 1: of his sister taking over, who is kind of a 1346 01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,880 Speaker 1: known quantity because of the Olympics sometime ago. But what 1347 01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,560 Speaker 1: would happen if Kim Jong un dropped dead of a 1348 01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,160 Speaker 1: heart attack tomorrow. Well, again, the answer is, we don't know. 1349 01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:38,560 Speaker 1: There's no formal succession plan in the North Korean constitution, 1350 01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:42,000 Speaker 1: as there wasn't when Kim's father, Kim Jong ill, died 1351 01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,320 Speaker 1: in twenty eleven. There may be a plan behind the scenes, 1352 01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,760 Speaker 1: either standing or an ad hoc in case he was 1353 01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,040 Speaker 1: going in for a heart procedure, So we're all trying 1354 01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,800 Speaker 1: to assess. I think up until a couple of years ago, 1355 01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:59,680 Speaker 1: the view was that a traditional Confucian society like North 1356 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:03,360 Speaker 1: Korea wouldn't have a woman leader. But in the last 1357 01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:07,879 Speaker 1: two years, Kim's sister has come out of the shadows. 1358 01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:12,040 Speaker 1: She's gained authority, she's gained stature. She really led the 1359 01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:15,880 Speaker 1: delegation to South Korea for the Olympics two years ago, 1360 01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:19,479 Speaker 1: even though others nominally were higher ranking, she clearly was 1361 01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,439 Speaker 1: in charge. So I think right now she has the 1362 01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,400 Speaker 1: inside track because she's a Kim family member. Others will 1363 01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:30,240 Speaker 1: point to an uncle of Kim chong un, but he 1364 01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,760 Speaker 1: was really exiled for thirty years in Eastern Europe and 1365 01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,800 Speaker 1: he only came back recently. So I think right now 1366 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:40,040 Speaker 1: it would appear to be the sister. But again we 1367 01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:45,320 Speaker 1: don't know, and what's the concern if there was a doubt. 1368 01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,320 Speaker 1: I mean, there were some people obviously who were celebrating 1369 01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:50,720 Speaker 1: this a bit prematurely celebrating and as we now know, 1370 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,599 Speaker 1: because who knows what even is going on with Kim 1371 01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:57,080 Speaker 1: Jong un, But there is there a great. You know, 1372 01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,120 Speaker 1: what would it be Would it be a good thing 1373 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:03,120 Speaker 1: from the perspect active of geopolitics and international relations if 1374 01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,840 Speaker 1: Kim Jong undied? Or is there are there too many 1375 01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,040 Speaker 1: unknowns that you know, maybe it's a devil you know, 1376 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,600 Speaker 1: situation versus whoever could come after him. I mean, what 1377 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,560 Speaker 1: how how would we assess that right now? Is it 1378 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,479 Speaker 1: an opportunity if he dies? Is it a possible collapse? 1379 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,080 Speaker 1: Sort of all of the above. You know, no one 1380 01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:22,200 Speaker 1: outside of North Korea is going to shed a tear 1381 01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:25,920 Speaker 1: if this brutal dictator, who according to the UN is 1382 01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:29,000 Speaker 1: a purveyor of crimes against humanity if he passes away, 1383 01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,080 Speaker 1: But there will be concerned by the United States as 1384 01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,800 Speaker 1: well as South Korea and Japan are critical allies about 1385 01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:41,280 Speaker 1: uncertainty in succession. There's the fear of an explosion in 1386 01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:44,519 Speaker 1: that North Korea may lash out at its neighbors, either 1387 01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,840 Speaker 1: because of a perceived threat from outside or to create 1388 01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:51,439 Speaker 1: a rally round the flag effect for succession, or an 1389 01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:57,000 Speaker 1: implosion of regime collapse, regime instability, a power struggles, civil war, 1390 01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,600 Speaker 1: who's got control of the nuclear weapons? So all of 1391 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,240 Speaker 1: those are very real concerns. There's going to be a 1392 01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:08,280 Speaker 1: lot of visibility by US and its allies, the military 1393 01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:12,120 Speaker 1: and intelligence communities on what's going on. You know that 1394 01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,280 Speaker 1: said we had the same concerns when the two previous 1395 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:17,160 Speaker 1: leaders passed away and the system worked, and that the 1396 01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:22,720 Speaker 1: regime maintained itself and they anointed successor did succeed, even 1397 01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,400 Speaker 1: though many had predicted they would fail. What do we 1398 01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:27,839 Speaker 1: know about And by the way, we're speaking to Bruce Klingner, 1399 01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,240 Speaker 1: he is a senior research fell at the Heritage Foundation 1400 01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:35,000 Speaker 1: twenty years spent before that at the Central Intelligence Agency. Bruce, 1401 01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,719 Speaker 1: what do we know about how North Korea is handling 1402 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:43,639 Speaker 1: the coronavirus situation? Considering that they're right next door to China. 1403 01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,000 Speaker 1: China had this terrible outbreak. One of the only countries 1404 01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:50,120 Speaker 1: really that has consistent commerce with North Korea is China. 1405 01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,840 Speaker 1: So do we know? Again, we know it's a black 1406 01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,280 Speaker 1: box of some degree, But have we seen any indicators 1407 01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:59,559 Speaker 1: that they've had this disease spread within their borders? North 1408 01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:03,599 Speaker 1: Korea still officially says they've had no cases whatsoever. None 1409 01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:07,080 Speaker 1: of us believe that because all of the neighboring countries 1410 01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,720 Speaker 1: had it. But right after the outbreak in China, they 1411 01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:14,000 Speaker 1: imposed some pretty strong containment measures. They cut off really 1412 01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:18,439 Speaker 1: contact with the outside world. They canceled flights from Beijing 1413 01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:22,439 Speaker 1: and Moscow, they closed the border with China, and they 1414 01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,960 Speaker 1: even cracked down on state runs smuggling, which had been 1415 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,160 Speaker 1: a way of gaining money for the regime to try 1416 01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:33,120 Speaker 1: to circumvent UN sanctions. So the border with China is 1417 01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:36,920 Speaker 1: still a bit porous, but it has really been cracked 1418 01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,040 Speaker 1: down on. So there are sources inside North Korea that 1419 01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:43,400 Speaker 1: says there have been deaths, There have been cases, but 1420 01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:48,320 Speaker 1: we're not seeing real indications of widespread death or disease 1421 01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:51,719 Speaker 1: as one might have expected. So perhaps they were able 1422 01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:56,519 Speaker 1: to dodge a bullet on COVID and their indications at 1423 01:18:56,560 --> 01:19:00,240 Speaker 1: some schools in Pyongyang are starting to reopen. So being 1424 01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,280 Speaker 1: the hermit kingdom, as it's called in this case might 1425 01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:05,280 Speaker 1: have actually been something of an advantage being such an 1426 01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:08,280 Speaker 1: isolated place. The isolation may have paid off for them 1427 01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:13,640 Speaker 1: in that regard. How is the Trump administration overall at 1428 01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:17,320 Speaker 1: this point? How would you assess how they've done in 1429 01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,800 Speaker 1: dealing with North Korea? Just sort of taking a step back, 1430 01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,040 Speaker 1: We're going to be heading an election this fall. Trump 1431 01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,360 Speaker 1: had all this outreach to Kim Jong un. Now he's 1432 01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,240 Speaker 1: back in the headlines because of what may have been 1433 01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,640 Speaker 1: some health issues. Again, we don't know, as you've established, 1434 01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,000 Speaker 1: but has Trump had the right approach which we have 1435 01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:34,000 Speaker 1: anything to show for now going at a year four 1436 01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,880 Speaker 1: of a new tactic or new tactics when it comes 1437 01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:41,519 Speaker 1: to North Korea, we really we've made absolutely no progress 1438 01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:46,080 Speaker 1: on denucrozation or getting any kind of change in North 1439 01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:50,240 Speaker 1: Korean behavior. Recently, North Korea has said they are not 1440 01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:53,599 Speaker 1: interested in any working level or even summit level meetings 1441 01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:58,839 Speaker 1: with President Trump unless we basically capitulate on our denucrozation policy. 1442 01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:02,160 Speaker 1: So you know, I wasn't a supporter of the idea 1443 01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:05,040 Speaker 1: of the summit diplomacy. I'm more of a traditionalist and 1444 01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,559 Speaker 1: the idea of you actually make progress at the working 1445 01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,040 Speaker 1: level and work up to a summit where you sign 1446 01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:12,840 Speaker 1: an agreement. But at least it did put to the 1447 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:16,000 Speaker 1: test the idea that many people had of if only 1448 01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,559 Speaker 1: the leaders from the two countries could get together, only 1449 01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:22,080 Speaker 1: the North Korean leader can make a decision, so therefore 1450 01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,400 Speaker 1: we'd have a breakthrough. Well, we've tested that hypothesis and 1451 01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,240 Speaker 1: found it false. So you know. I think there's a 1452 01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,600 Speaker 1: lot that I have been critical of the Trump administration 1453 01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:35,040 Speaker 1: on North Korea, but no administration or president has a 1454 01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,160 Speaker 1: monopoly on good or bad ideas when it comes to 1455 01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,920 Speaker 1: North Korea. So what we have to do is have 1456 01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:43,800 Speaker 1: a truly maximum pressure policy that we have not had 1457 01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:47,839 Speaker 1: that despite the moniker, we've been holding back on unforcing 1458 01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:51,760 Speaker 1: our own laws as well as un sanctions. We've been 1459 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,840 Speaker 1: curtailing military exercises for two years on the Korean peninsula, 1460 01:20:56,320 --> 01:21:01,680 Speaker 1: and right now we're engaged in some very tortuous negotiations 1461 01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:05,519 Speaker 1: with South Korea over their compensation for US forces. I 1462 01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:08,760 Speaker 1: don't think the US should be demanding exorbit in increases 1463 01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:12,120 Speaker 1: a fivefold increase, as the administration is. I think we 1464 01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:15,760 Speaker 1: should accept an incremental increase because right now we need 1465 01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,320 Speaker 1: to be shoulder to shoulder with our allies, not bickering 1466 01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,040 Speaker 1: over nichols and dimes when we face common threats not 1467 01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:24,000 Speaker 1: only from North Korea but also China. Bruce Klingner of 1468 01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:28,000 Speaker 1: the Heritage Foundation and formerly of the CIA, Bruce, thank 1469 01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,920 Speaker 1: you so much for your expertise, sir. We appreciate it. Well. 1470 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:35,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. You're in the freedom hunt. This 1471 01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:43,080 Speaker 1: is the Buck Sex and Show podcast. Big tweet out 1472 01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:48,320 Speaker 1: from Maria Barto Romo over the weekend, breaking news sources 1473 01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:52,920 Speaker 1: tell me General Flynn will be completely exonerated this week. 1474 01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:57,600 Speaker 1: It was a total fraud, a setup. More tomorrow. I 1475 01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:01,080 Speaker 1: guess that was Yester round Sunday. Oh wow, you mean 1476 01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:07,360 Speaker 1: that the primary other than manaport, the primary justification in 1477 01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:10,800 Speaker 1: terms of a criminal prosecution that was successful for so 1478 01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:13,720 Speaker 1: much of the Russia collusion. Nonsense, right, this is what 1479 01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,960 Speaker 1: they would point to. Oh, look at General Flynn, convicted 1480 01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:20,600 Speaker 1: felon General Flynn. Look at all the criminality that we 1481 01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:26,480 Speaker 1: found here. No, you mean you manufactured. It was disgusting 1482 01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:28,840 Speaker 1: what they did to General Flynn. Let's just review for 1483 01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:32,160 Speaker 1: a moment. Shelby. He's the incoming national security advisor, former 1484 01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:36,280 Speaker 1: chief of the Defense Intelligence Agency, had spent thirty years 1485 01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:40,799 Speaker 1: working as part of the United States military, serving in uniform. 1486 01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:46,479 Speaker 1: He was a decorated veteran, and he was one of 1487 01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:50,519 Speaker 1: the early national security allies of the Trump administration, which 1488 01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,480 Speaker 1: made him hated by the deep state national security establishment 1489 01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,560 Speaker 1: as we know. And he's coming in during the transition. 1490 01:22:56,680 --> 01:23:02,280 Speaker 1: He's the incoming national security advisor, and what do what 1491 01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:07,679 Speaker 1: do Sally Yates at DOJ and Comby over at FBI 1492 01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,240 Speaker 1: and this this whole cabal that we know, what do 1493 01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:15,960 Speaker 1: they decided to do? They take leaked criminally leaked information 1494 01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:18,760 Speaker 1: by by ignacious over the Washington Post, and they're now 1495 01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,720 Speaker 1: looking into and I oh, well, I hope Durham. I 1496 01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,560 Speaker 1: hope the Durham investigation finds who leaked that stuff and 1497 01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:27,040 Speaker 1: sends them to prison for a good four or five years. 1498 01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:30,040 Speaker 1: That's because that's really that's probably what you get for that. 1499 01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:33,320 Speaker 1: Maybe you get three four years in a deal, but 1500 01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,559 Speaker 1: I mean you're gonna get real prison time for leaking 1501 01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,640 Speaker 1: ts information to the press like that. And some of 1502 01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:40,200 Speaker 1: you would say, well, no, no, no, buck, you should 1503 01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,640 Speaker 1: get ten Look look at you know, look at you 1504 01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,200 Speaker 1: know Reality Winner or whatever name you know, you got 1505 01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,000 Speaker 1: ten years, right, I mean, so you can get some 1506 01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:52,960 Speaker 1: real time for leaking uh top secret intercept like that 1507 01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:55,320 Speaker 1: to the press. For partisan purpose, they gotta make they 1508 01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:58,000 Speaker 1: gotta make a really strong example of that person. Guess 1509 01:23:58,040 --> 01:23:59,920 Speaker 1: what's going to be Somebody who liked Obama a lot, 1510 01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,800 Speaker 1: probably would vote for Biden now or definitely would vote 1511 01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:06,560 Speaker 1: for Biden now, and hates Trump. So they might be 1512 01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:08,840 Speaker 1: able to find out who this is. I certainly hope 1513 01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:14,599 Speaker 1: they do find out who it is, and that would 1514 01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:16,680 Speaker 1: that would be a big missing piece of all this. 1515 01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:20,040 Speaker 1: But also remember that they used the Logan Act to 1516 01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:24,840 Speaker 1: have a sit down conversation with General Flynn and then 1517 01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,400 Speaker 1: pretended that it wasn't really a friendly conversation to the 1518 01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:31,559 Speaker 1: National Security Visor and the FBI and people were telling 1519 01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:33,160 Speaker 1: us all the experts you told you, Oh, but he 1520 01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:35,200 Speaker 1: should know better that these people were morons. Okay, this 1521 01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,560 Speaker 1: was as clear as set up as anything could ever be. 1522 01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,280 Speaker 1: I've told you that all along, those who end listed 1523 01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:42,320 Speaker 1: me for years here on the show know that I 1524 01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:45,080 Speaker 1: knew exactly what game they were playing with this. They 1525 01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:47,360 Speaker 1: got him on a one zero zero one violation. Now 1526 01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:49,960 Speaker 1: it turns out there was a side deal that they 1527 01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:54,680 Speaker 1: would not disclose where they would withhold charges or that 1528 01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,960 Speaker 1: they would refrain from charges against his son if he 1529 01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,720 Speaker 1: pleaded guilty. So what they did is they jammed him up, 1530 01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,320 Speaker 1: and they made sure that you know, he had no 1531 01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,840 Speaker 1: chance to take this to trial. If he took it 1532 01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:07,880 Speaker 1: the trial, they were going to annihilate him and his 1533 01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:12,320 Speaker 1: family members, and for what he'd say, for lying about what. 1534 01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:14,920 Speaker 1: He didn't even do anything illegal. So they're gonna get 1535 01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:18,640 Speaker 1: him for not lying about criminal conduct, but just misremembering 1536 01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:22,160 Speaker 1: a conversation that he has with two FBI guys. Remember 1537 01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:27,000 Speaker 1: Andy McCabe lied very much so under oath. But he's 1538 01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:29,320 Speaker 1: FBI and he's connected to the deep state folks, and 1539 01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:32,160 Speaker 1: so he didn't get charged, no criminal charges. How is 1540 01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,599 Speaker 1: that possible they got lied under oath, Well, it doesn't count. 1541 01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:37,960 Speaker 1: So we see the double standards, just like the double 1542 01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:39,519 Speaker 1: standard with cabal. I mean, this is this is the 1543 01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:43,200 Speaker 1: way that the left, the deep state, dishonest people always 1544 01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:47,400 Speaker 1: have to have malleable standards because that's the only way 1545 01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,519 Speaker 1: they'll be able to get what they want. Because if 1546 01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:54,000 Speaker 1: a standard is applied consistently and universally, then it's it's 1547 01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:56,720 Speaker 1: clear that they're going to run on the wrong side 1548 01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:58,160 Speaker 1: of it at some point because they're bad people. So 1549 01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:00,519 Speaker 1: what do they do. They use standard, They use rules 1550 01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,679 Speaker 1: against us, and then they have no rules for themselves. 1551 01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:07,240 Speaker 1: There's a piece from Sean Davis and the Federalist just 1552 01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:10,360 Speaker 1: from a couple days ago. New court documents filed under 1553 01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:16,160 Speaker 1: SEAL include significant exculpatory information about Michael Flynn. The new documents, 1554 01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:19,879 Speaker 1: which were filed under seal by the Just Department on Friday, 1555 01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:24,479 Speaker 1: allegedly include exonerating evidence about Flynn, who pleaded guilty to 1556 01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:28,320 Speaker 1: line to federal investigators about conversations with foreign diplomats as 1557 01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:31,759 Speaker 1: Trump's top incoming foreign policy advisor and is currently attempting 1558 01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:35,080 Speaker 1: to withdraw his plea, as well as evidence of malfeasance 1559 01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:38,800 Speaker 1: by the FBI during its investigation of Flynn. According to 1560 01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:42,160 Speaker 1: the FBI official who spoke to the Federalist, FBI General 1561 01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:47,000 Speaker 1: Counsel Dan Bonte led the charge internally against DJ's disclosure 1562 01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:51,479 Speaker 1: of new materials. Bonte, who briefly served as acting Attorney 1563 01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:55,320 Speaker 1: General after Trump became president, personally signed off on one 1564 01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:59,080 Speaker 1: of the federal spy warrants against former Trump campaign affiliate 1565 01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:02,320 Speaker 1: Carter Page. The new documents, which were filed under a 1566 01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,920 Speaker 1: protective order by DJ on Friday, will reflect poorly on 1567 01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,400 Speaker 1: the FBI, the official told the Federalist. It is not 1568 01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:12,040 Speaker 1: clear when or even if those documents will be unsealed 1569 01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,639 Speaker 1: and made to the public. Because the documents were foiled 1570 01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:16,320 Speaker 1: under sealed, the Federalist has not been able to review 1571 01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:20,439 Speaker 1: them independently. Multiple investigative reports issued by the DOJ Inspector 1572 01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:26,799 Speaker 1: General revealed myriad instances of corruption by FBI officials throughout 1573 01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:29,400 Speaker 1: the multi year investigation of Trump in his former campaign, 1574 01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:36,639 Speaker 1: former campaign. My friends, the fix was in from the beginning. 1575 01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:44,479 Speaker 1: This was a disgusting, a disgusting miscarriage of justice. They 1576 01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:46,320 Speaker 1: knew that Flynn didn't lie, as we know from the 1577 01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:49,280 Speaker 1: initial report, the FBI didn't believe that Flynn lied, But 1578 01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:52,599 Speaker 1: then they were pushed to amend that for some reason 1579 01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,080 Speaker 1: to get leverage. Oh, now they got him on this. 1580 01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:59,400 Speaker 1: This is the classic FBI maneuver. Just you know, when 1581 01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:01,240 Speaker 1: they want to get you on something, they always look 1582 01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:03,280 Speaker 1: to get you on a one zero zero one violation, 1583 01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:05,760 Speaker 1: and then that becomes the lever they use to get 1584 01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,960 Speaker 1: everything else they want. So so you think you're in 1585 01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:12,400 Speaker 1: a position to fight against something. You think that they've 1586 01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,400 Speaker 1: got the wrong guy. But guess what, they don't. They 1587 01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:17,120 Speaker 1: don't have to prove that their initial suspicion of you 1588 01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:19,720 Speaker 1: for criminal conduct was correct. All they have to do 1589 01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:21,559 Speaker 1: is get you in a one zero zero one lying 1590 01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:25,880 Speaker 1: to FBI and now you're facing five years. Now you'll 1591 01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:30,240 Speaker 1: do whatever they say, You'll please, You'll you'll rat on 1592 01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:33,160 Speaker 1: other people. You know, you'll you won't just to borrow 1593 01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:36,040 Speaker 1: from Who was it that was saying this all the time, 1594 01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:39,200 Speaker 1: Alan Dershowitz up at Harvard about all this stuff. He 1595 01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:43,640 Speaker 1: said that they won't just sing, they'll compose, meaning they 1596 01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,600 Speaker 1: won't just tell tales. They'll make them up as they 1597 01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,000 Speaker 1: go along about what, you know, whatever they think that 1598 01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:52,640 Speaker 1: the officials want to hear. So, you know, here we go, 1599 01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:56,519 Speaker 1: and the Federalists, just an hour ago published Robert Muller's 1600 01:28:57,040 --> 01:29:00,719 Speaker 1: case against Michael Flynn is about to implode. New facts 1601 01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,440 Speaker 1: in the Michael Flinn investigation, calling a question the voluntariness 1602 01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:06,800 Speaker 1: of Flynn's plea Judge Sullivan should dismiss the charges to 1603 01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:12,480 Speaker 1: send a clear message outrageous prosecutorial coercion will not be tolerated. 1604 01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:18,960 Speaker 1: My friends, this needs, this needs to happen. We need 1605 01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:22,439 Speaker 1: justice here. I've been saying all along that General Flynn 1606 01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:24,240 Speaker 1: should be I've said it on Twitter. I've been very 1607 01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:26,599 Speaker 1: open that he should be pardoned, that presidents should pardon him. 1608 01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:29,519 Speaker 1: In a sense. I guess now I might end up 1609 01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,439 Speaker 1: being happy I did not get my request because he 1610 01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,320 Speaker 1: may be not just pardoned, but he may be exonerated, 1611 01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:39,839 Speaker 1: meaning that they vacate his plea, and the judge vacates 1612 01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:42,280 Speaker 1: his plea and says, you know, we are sorry and 1613 01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:46,960 Speaker 1: sends him on his way because this is appalling his team. 1614 01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:49,120 Speaker 1: The legal team is trying to withdraw the guilty plea 1615 01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:52,240 Speaker 1: right now. The more they find out about this, I mean, 1616 01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:54,360 Speaker 1: they keep trying to hide the information. The more information 1617 01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:57,599 Speaker 1: that comes out, the more clear it is that they 1618 01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:01,240 Speaker 1: railroaded this guy. They basically made a a crime, made 1619 01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:03,080 Speaker 1: him plead to it, or also going to destroy him 1620 01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:05,400 Speaker 1: and his son, and now they're trying to hide what 1621 01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:08,439 Speaker 1: they did. You know why they did all this because 1622 01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:10,519 Speaker 1: he was tied to Trump? I mean because the deep 1623 01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:13,519 Speaker 1: state didn't like that somebody else came along and was 1624 01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:16,840 Speaker 1: in power who wasn't one of theirs. Thanks for listening 1625 01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:20,280 Speaker 1: to The Bus Sesson Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on 1626 01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:23,720 Speaker 1: Apple Podcast, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get 1627 01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,880 Speaker 1: your podcasts. I'm gonna get you some roll call. I 1628 01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:28,479 Speaker 1: want to check in with producer Mark Over in the 1629 01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:31,040 Speaker 1: Penalty Box. My friend, how was your weekend great? How 1630 01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:33,760 Speaker 1: was yours? It was all right? Would you watch We 1631 01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:37,080 Speaker 1: started a new show called Silicon Valley Valley on HBO. 1632 01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever watched it. Amazing show. Yeah, 1633 01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:42,280 Speaker 1: great show, great show. Yeah, I've had a feeling you 1634 01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:44,559 Speaker 1: guys would both like that one. That's a great one. Yeah, 1635 01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:47,240 Speaker 1: we're really enjoying it when like season three, I think 1636 01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,120 Speaker 1: it's a quick show, only twenty five minutes or so 1637 01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:51,519 Speaker 1: an episode. Yes, you can burn through episodes real fast. 1638 01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:53,000 Speaker 1: But it's good. And you know, people that I know 1639 01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:56,040 Speaker 1: who are in that that Silicon Valley world, I mean 1640 01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:58,800 Speaker 1: the real thing, say that there's a lot of a 1641 01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:01,120 Speaker 1: lot of truth in that show, that a lot of 1642 01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:03,800 Speaker 1: the silly stuff is really based on real stuff, and 1643 01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:09,559 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty amazing. Yeah, it's very clever. Well, I'm glad, man, 1644 01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm glad you enjoyed that. I saw a show called, 1645 01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:15,519 Speaker 1: I mean a movie called Extraction. I also watched a 1646 01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:17,920 Speaker 1: bit of The Crown with the Snow Princess. We had 1647 01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:20,360 Speaker 1: a very nice time. The Crown is great, by the way. 1648 01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:22,519 Speaker 1: I didn't think I would like it, a fantastic show. 1649 01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:26,680 Speaker 1: But I saw this movie Extraction. I watched this one 1650 01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:30,880 Speaker 1: solo while the Snow Princess was doing other things. The 1651 01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:35,240 Speaker 1: movie Extraction is I've never seen a movie with so 1652 01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:37,920 Speaker 1: little plot and so little dialogue and so many people 1653 01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:40,960 Speaker 1: getting shot, it's like nothing else. I mean, it's at 1654 01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:43,439 Speaker 1: least the movie Commando. All the violence kind of comes 1655 01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:47,200 Speaker 1: at the end. But Schwarzenegger's Commando, which if you haven't seen, 1656 01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:51,040 Speaker 1: is a great old action flick. It's all building to 1657 01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:55,160 Speaker 1: just one long, continuous shootout at the end where he 1658 01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:58,160 Speaker 1: just keeps switching weapons and it's ridiculous and it's amazing, 1659 01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:01,559 Speaker 1: and it's a great, great movie. They'dolf some steam, Bennett. 1660 01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:04,720 Speaker 1: It's a great movie. This movie. There's just a lot 1661 01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:06,680 Speaker 1: of shooting pretty much the whole time, and it's just 1662 01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:09,960 Speaker 1: one guy who kills so many people that he makes 1663 01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:12,800 Speaker 1: John Wick look like a pacifist. It's the guy who 1664 01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:17,400 Speaker 1: plays Thor in the Avengers movies. Yeah, Chris Hemsworth. Yeah, 1665 01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:20,519 Speaker 1: he's just running around lighting up dudes all over the place. 1666 01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:23,160 Speaker 1: I've never seen so many people get shot in a movie, 1667 01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:25,400 Speaker 1: I think by one person. It's just I've never seen 1668 01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:28,800 Speaker 1: anything like it. It's pretty astonishing. Was it entertaining? Yes? 1669 01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:31,959 Speaker 1: Could I write a better script in ten minutes? Probably? 1670 01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:37,160 Speaker 1: So there's that anyway, That was Yeah, I know, I'm 1671 01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:38,760 Speaker 1: just telling I look it's a it's a review, not 1672 01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,960 Speaker 1: a recommendation. I'm sure you know. This week, I'm very 1673 01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:45,240 Speaker 1: excited because I have I have the Last Kingdom to 1674 01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:49,280 Speaker 1: get to. I'm Utred's son of Ughtred. It's gonna be amazing. 1675 01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,519 Speaker 1: I'm very pleased about that. So the Last Kingdom is 1676 01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:54,599 Speaker 1: a great show. And I'm gonna be watching the Last Kingdom, 1677 01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:57,080 Speaker 1: which will be a lot of fun. All Right, here 1678 01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:02,000 Speaker 1: we go, t J. It's buck. Today here in Iowa, 1679 01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:04,880 Speaker 1: Governor Kim Reynolds is announcing her plan to reopen the state. 1680 01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:07,639 Speaker 1: We never had a shelter in place amongst those plans. 1681 01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:10,160 Speaker 1: It's already even stated that farmers markets will be allowed 1682 01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:13,599 Speaker 1: to reopen, but food vendors only, and people are being 1683 01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:16,559 Speaker 1: encouraged to mask up and only send one family member 1684 01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:19,320 Speaker 1: with no kids. I can't help but notice some of 1685 01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:23,840 Speaker 1: my more left leaning colleague acquaintances are taking issue at this. However, 1686 01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:26,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure these same people go to an indoor boxtore 1687 01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:29,479 Speaker 1: grocer to get their groceries weekly or bi weekly. But 1688 01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:31,600 Speaker 1: god forbid, we have an open air market. We can 1689 01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:34,120 Speaker 1: get our food from our small business neighbors without being 1690 01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:38,360 Speaker 1: confined to the eight foot wide grocery store aisles. I 1691 01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:41,000 Speaker 1: can't decide if those people just haven't thought this through 1692 01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:42,759 Speaker 1: or if they just would rather not see a GOP 1693 01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:49,519 Speaker 1: governor be successful in reopening the state. Yeah, I think. 1694 01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:53,559 Speaker 1: I think that first of all, outdoor markets are probably 1695 01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:55,760 Speaker 1: safer than indoor markets. We all know that, and I 1696 01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:58,880 Speaker 1: do believe that there was a surge. I know they 1697 01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:02,520 Speaker 1: were outdoor hospitals set up during the Spanish flu pandemic, 1698 01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:04,519 Speaker 1: but I think they also started to move a lot 1699 01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:08,280 Speaker 1: of things outdoors as much as possible because just fresh air, sunlight, 1700 01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,439 Speaker 1: as we know, these are good things. These things kill 1701 01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:14,240 Speaker 1: the virus. As for people who don't want there to 1702 01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:16,600 Speaker 1: be success on this, yeah, we're going to see some 1703 01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:18,439 Speaker 1: of that. I wish it was not the case, but 1704 01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:21,240 Speaker 1: there are people that would rather be right than have 1705 01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:25,439 Speaker 1: us return to a greater degree of normalcy. There are 1706 01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:28,320 Speaker 1: people that would prefer to be correct than to have 1707 01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:31,519 Speaker 1: things go better for all of us. Eric, Hey Buck, 1708 01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:33,240 Speaker 1: I've been listening to your podcast It's back when you 1709 01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:36,000 Speaker 1: were on the Blaze. Well, thank you, Eric. You've been 1710 01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:38,120 Speaker 1: a part of my routine daily at work. I work 1711 01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:40,559 Speaker 1: as a lead custody and so luckily I'm still working. 1712 01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:42,639 Speaker 1: It seems to me that people are happy to stay 1713 01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:44,960 Speaker 1: home and collect money from the government, especially since most 1714 01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:48,800 Speaker 1: people are making more on unemployment. Why can't people work 1715 01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:51,519 Speaker 1: with masks like I'm forced to every day? I'm starting 1716 01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:53,519 Speaker 1: to feel like there's something going on behind the scenes. 1717 01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm not a big conspiracy theory kind of guy. People 1718 01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:58,320 Speaker 1: really hate Trump though, and I'm starting to think deep 1719 01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:01,640 Speaker 1: state democrats and the media might be up something. Eric. Eric, 1720 01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:03,240 Speaker 1: first of all, thank you for continuing to do what 1721 01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:07,000 Speaker 1: you do and making sure that you know if places 1722 01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:09,560 Speaker 1: are wherever it is you're working as a custodian, that 1723 01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:12,840 Speaker 1: it's clean and sanitary, and that really is these days 1724 01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:15,120 Speaker 1: more important than ever. And just that you're showing up 1725 01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:17,559 Speaker 1: and continue to be productive. You deserve aig a big 1726 01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:20,280 Speaker 1: high five for that. And as for why can't other 1727 01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:22,120 Speaker 1: folks work with masks on, I think that's what we're 1728 01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:23,760 Speaker 1: heading for. I think there will be more people that 1729 01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:26,559 Speaker 1: are working with masks, so that's going to become more normal. 1730 01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:30,360 Speaker 1: That's going to become an expectation that we all have 1731 01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:32,640 Speaker 1: in our offices and our jobs. I think you might 1732 01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:35,320 Speaker 1: have an increase in social distancing in the office too, 1733 01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:37,519 Speaker 1: meaning that desks will have to be further apart. And 1734 01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:40,040 Speaker 1: I remember when I worked in the CIA, we were 1735 01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:43,080 Speaker 1: in a like a shared cubical situation and it just 1736 01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:44,600 Speaker 1: felt like we were all on top of each other. 1737 01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:46,960 Speaker 1: I mean we were so it was just so tight 1738 01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:49,519 Speaker 1: in there. And that was I'm not talking about overseas, 1739 01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:51,120 Speaker 1: where you expect if you're in a war zone, you're 1740 01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,120 Speaker 1: going to be in tight quarters. I mean here Stateside. 1741 01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:55,640 Speaker 1: So I think they're gonna have a shift away from 1742 01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:58,600 Speaker 1: all of that. And yeah, mask wearing is going to 1743 01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:01,600 Speaker 1: become very m on the office, which I mean a 1744 01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:05,040 Speaker 1: lot of masks are not comfortable. I think people forget this. 1745 01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:07,559 Speaker 1: If you put on one of those N ninety five 1746 01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:10,200 Speaker 1: respirator masks, for example, you find that they're really tight 1747 01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:13,120 Speaker 1: on your face. They're not very not fun to have on. 1748 01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:16,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, man, I think that's where we're heading. And Eric, 1749 01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:19,680 Speaker 1: thank you so much for writing in and thank you 1750 01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:21,320 Speaker 1: for listening. Since I was on the Blaze, man, remember 1751 01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:23,000 Speaker 1: that's going back now. I haven't been on the Blaze 1752 01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:27,320 Speaker 1: in four years. Robert Buck, I listen you on podcast. 1753 01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:31,719 Speaker 1: This is Rob from VA. Wanted to ask why Iraq 1754 01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:34,160 Speaker 1: was such a bad foreign policy decision looking back at 1755 01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:35,800 Speaker 1: nine to eleven and not knowing what was going to 1756 01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,000 Speaker 1: happen next, since Saddam was a bad guy and Iram 1757 01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:41,280 Speaker 1: was even worse. We go into Afghanistan, we liberated Rock 1758 01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:43,560 Speaker 1: and wow, looks like Iran is in the middle. Do 1759 01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:45,080 Speaker 1: you think this could have been a factor in going 1760 01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:47,000 Speaker 1: into a rock It didn't work out that we wanted. 1761 01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:48,920 Speaker 1: In the media and the Democrats are at fault. I'm 1762 01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:51,479 Speaker 1: still in uniform. And you stay on the radio. First 1763 01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:54,360 Speaker 1: heard you on the Rush Show. Stay safe, well, Robert. 1764 01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:56,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate you listening to me, feeling for the great 1765 01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:59,840 Speaker 1: man himself, mister Rush Limbaugh, the greatest living radio host. 1766 01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:06,640 Speaker 1: And as for why Iraq is a bad decision, I 1767 01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:09,600 Speaker 1: think you just look at the consequences of this and 1768 01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:12,479 Speaker 1: we what we gained versus what we lost in that 1769 01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:15,600 Speaker 1: whole process. So I think the moment you do that, 1770 01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:18,880 Speaker 1: you start to see that there was a there was 1771 01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:20,720 Speaker 1: a cost benefit analysis that would go in a very 1772 01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:23,880 Speaker 1: different direction. Now that we actually have the inputs, the factors, 1773 01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:25,679 Speaker 1: the numbers, we would we would have a very different 1774 01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:29,320 Speaker 1: approach to it. Yeah, I think that they believed at 1775 01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:31,360 Speaker 1: the time, and I remember this and I remember I 1776 01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:34,120 Speaker 1: worked in the Iraq Office of the CIA, so I 1777 01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:35,920 Speaker 1: could also go back and look at a lot of 1778 01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:39,280 Speaker 1: the historical documents from that office as I did, and 1779 01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,880 Speaker 1: I had access to pretty much every piece of classified 1780 01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:45,439 Speaker 1: information that the CIA is a rock office, had, So 1781 01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:48,160 Speaker 1: with that, I mean, I can just tell you that 1782 01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:50,280 Speaker 1: the expectations for what we're going to happen there in 1783 01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:53,240 Speaker 1: that country were very different from the outcome. There really 1784 01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:55,760 Speaker 1: was a belief and this is this is well known, 1785 01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:57,679 Speaker 1: this is all across the media as well, and people 1786 01:37:57,760 --> 01:37:59,800 Speaker 1: understand this, but there really was a belief throughout government, 1787 01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:02,599 Speaker 1: or at least in a lot of places within the government, 1788 01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,479 Speaker 1: that we're making decisions that we would come along and 1789 01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:08,240 Speaker 1: the Iraqis would be happy that he was gone, and 1790 01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:10,720 Speaker 1: then which this would serve as a model. This was 1791 01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:13,120 Speaker 1: the pitch that would serve as a model for other 1792 01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:15,920 Speaker 1: Middle Eastern states, and it just turned out to not 1793 01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,720 Speaker 1: be the case that they would take to this the 1794 01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:21,479 Speaker 1: way that we thought that they perhaps would. It was 1795 01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:25,560 Speaker 1: not the case that this led to a series of 1796 01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:29,400 Speaker 1: flowering democracies throughout the Middle East. And when you look 1797 01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:31,080 Speaker 1: at it in that context, and we also to keep 1798 01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:33,479 Speaker 1: fighting the war on terror and Afghanistan is still ongoing 1799 01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:35,720 Speaker 1: now and we still have troops in Iraq. You look 1800 01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:37,600 Speaker 1: at these decisions, I just think it's very hard in 1801 01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:40,240 Speaker 1: retrospect to think that these were the thing that that decision, 1802 01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:43,559 Speaker 1: in particular to go into Iraq, knowing what we know now, 1803 01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:46,640 Speaker 1: I think it's clear it was a bad idea. If 1804 01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:48,960 Speaker 1: we were in the same circumstances and you're asked using 1805 01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:51,120 Speaker 1: the same data as you were at that point in time, 1806 01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:53,080 Speaker 1: would you would you end up with the same result. 1807 01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:56,200 Speaker 1: That's a more complicated question. That's a more difficult thing 1808 01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:59,720 Speaker 1: for us to figure out. So I leave the two. 1809 01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:02,160 Speaker 1: Thank you for your service, Robert, and thanks so much 1810 01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:05,240 Speaker 1: for listening to the show. Kelly, I just heard part 1811 01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:09,520 Speaker 1: of the conversation about parents homeschooling. I may have misunderstood, 1812 01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:11,840 Speaker 1: but my opinion about parents homeschooling, and I see it 1813 01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:14,160 Speaker 1: with a lot of my stressed out friends with their homeschooling. 1814 01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:17,280 Speaker 1: They don't have the education to help with math, especially 1815 01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:20,960 Speaker 1: among other subjects. Students aren't getting the benefits of actually teachers. 1816 01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:23,320 Speaker 1: It's not the same and kids need to be back 1817 01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:26,840 Speaker 1: to school eventually when it's safe. Hey, Kelly, I'm not 1818 01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:29,040 Speaker 1: opposed to kids going back to school. I just think 1819 01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:34,559 Speaker 1: that the effort to malign homeschooling. And my friend Enis Felcher, 1820 01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:37,320 Speaker 1: who joined us last week, made this pretty clear, I 1821 01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:39,320 Speaker 1: think when she said, look, this is not homeschooling. This 1822 01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:41,720 Speaker 1: is shelter in place with your kids and try to 1823 01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:44,920 Speaker 1: teach them some stuff. Actual homeschoolers, of which there are 1824 01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:47,439 Speaker 1: a couple of million in the country that the teachers 1825 01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:50,360 Speaker 1: set up before I mean sorry, the parents set up 1826 01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:54,000 Speaker 1: beforehand to be better teachers, to make sure they know 1827 01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:56,880 Speaker 1: what the curriculum is, that make sure they understand what 1828 01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:58,639 Speaker 1: they're going to be teaching ahead of time, and they're 1829 01:39:58,640 --> 01:40:00,880 Speaker 1: also setting up activities all kinds of other things. So 1830 01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:05,760 Speaker 1: this is ad hoc. This is, you know, impromptu homeschooling, 1831 01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:08,160 Speaker 1: which is not the way it's normally done. And as 1832 01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:09,920 Speaker 1: for kids going back to school, sure, and look, there 1833 01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:11,160 Speaker 1: are a lot there are a lot of very good 1834 01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:13,519 Speaker 1: public schools in the country. We all know that, but 1835 01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:15,719 Speaker 1: there are a lot of bad ones. And people should 1836 01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:19,240 Speaker 1: have choices about what they what their children learn and 1837 01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:23,280 Speaker 1: where they go to school. And the one size fits all, 1838 01:40:23,400 --> 01:40:25,280 Speaker 1: do what we say or else attitude from the state 1839 01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:29,160 Speaker 1: about public schools is troubling, especially when you see what 1840 01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:34,439 Speaker 1: a massive fiscal burden the teachers. It's really the teachers unions, 1841 01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:37,680 Speaker 1: but you know the education budgets, which is largely a 1842 01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:40,439 Speaker 1: slush fund to pay adults in a lot of these places. 1843 01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm not saying the teachers make a lot of money, 1844 01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:44,280 Speaker 1: but there are a lot of administrators and union officials 1845 01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:45,960 Speaker 1: and people like that that are also making money that 1846 01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:48,560 Speaker 1: have nothing to do with teachers. I think if you 1847 01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:50,519 Speaker 1: if you check the statistics, you'd see that over the 1848 01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:54,439 Speaker 1: last of twenty years, there has been a seven x 1849 01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:59,080 Speaker 1: increase in our public school system of non teaching staff, 1850 01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:03,840 Speaker 1: so all kinds of administrators and special assistants and you know, 1851 01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:06,760 Speaker 1: all this other stuff. So that's why it's become a 1852 01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:09,200 Speaker 1: huge jobs program. A lot of people have these jobs 1853 01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:11,160 Speaker 1: that they really can't get fired from. They've got very 1854 01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:14,479 Speaker 1: cushy benefits, not a huge salary, but some salaries for 1855 01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:19,640 Speaker 1: teaching bureaucrats, not for teachers. It's actually quite high. You know, 1856 01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:22,000 Speaker 1: if you're the superintendent of schools and some districts, you're 1857 01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:23,960 Speaker 1: you're making a lot of money. Actually you're doing very well. 1858 01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:29,479 Speaker 1: You're in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sex 1859 01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:36,479 Speaker 1: and Show podcast. Okay more roll call here, Chris writes 1860 01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:38,479 Speaker 1: in Buck Love your podcast. We listen to it here 1861 01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:40,960 Speaker 1: at the Detective's office every morning to become a morning 1862 01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:43,280 Speaker 1: staple with our standard black Rifle coffee, even if it 1863 01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:45,680 Speaker 1: is a little bit behind because I listened it from 1864 01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:47,800 Speaker 1: the day before. Help us out here. We have a 1865 01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:51,760 Speaker 1: running bet regarding Producer Mark. Is he for real or 1866 01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:54,400 Speaker 1: is he just doing a stick? There's no way a 1867 01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:56,720 Speaker 1: twenty seven year old millennial could really be as as 1868 01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:59,560 Speaker 1: stuffy and weary of the world as this guy. A 1869 01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:01,720 Speaker 1: week's worth of lunches is on the line, and these 1870 01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:07,160 Speaker 1: guys don't order off the kid's menu. She'll tie Producer Mark. 1871 01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:09,479 Speaker 1: I will let you answer this one. I read this email. 1872 01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:12,040 Speaker 1: What do you mean I'm stuffy and out of touch 1873 01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:14,000 Speaker 1: with the world. I don't get it or weary of 1874 01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:17,880 Speaker 1: the world. I think they're just asking is this the son? 1875 01:42:18,040 --> 01:42:19,680 Speaker 1: I guess I have to give the real answer here. 1876 01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:21,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to give you a first crack. If you 1877 01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:23,600 Speaker 1: guys are asking if Producer Mark that you hear is 1878 01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:25,840 Speaker 1: like the way, is actually Producer Mark or if he's 1879 01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:30,599 Speaker 1: doing some the answers Yes, that's you're hearing Producer Mark. 1880 01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:32,760 Speaker 1: And this is how he is. Right, My life is 1881 01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:37,680 Speaker 1: a stick book. They're getting pure, unadulterated producer Mark is 1882 01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:39,280 Speaker 1: all we're trying to get to. Here. You're getting the 1883 01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:43,280 Speaker 1: real deal, folks. No additives, no preservatives, right Mark. Yes, 1884 01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm organic all the way, Organic Mark all the way. 1885 01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:48,960 Speaker 1: It's all you need, folks. So there you go. So 1886 01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:51,479 Speaker 1: I guess someone's buying somebody some lunches. Here, Producer Mark, 1887 01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:53,720 Speaker 1: you're getting the real deal every day. I hope you're 1888 01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:55,880 Speaker 1: all team Producer Mark, and half of you are mocking me. 1889 01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:58,479 Speaker 1: I'm not really sure how this is working. Well, No, 1890 01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:00,760 Speaker 1: I think I think they're all t Mark. They just 1891 01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:02,800 Speaker 1: want to know if if Mark is a character or 1892 01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:04,479 Speaker 1: if Mark is really Mark. And I'm here to say no, 1893 01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:07,080 Speaker 1: Mark is really Mark. Guys, this is this is producer Mark. 1894 01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:09,920 Speaker 1: You're getting him the real deal. Uh. And and just 1895 01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, when I show up, you know, after doing 1896 01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:14,360 Speaker 1: five hours or radio many days a week, you know, 1897 01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:16,280 Speaker 1: the first thing I off and here from producer Mark 1898 01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:18,320 Speaker 1: is like, oh, you showed up for work today, Because 1899 01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:20,120 Speaker 1: I'm usually a little bit late. So I kind of 1900 01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:24,080 Speaker 1: learned it. But none nonetheless, Nonetheless, that's where we are. 1901 01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:26,360 Speaker 1: As I've said before, Buck is the only human being 1902 01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:28,920 Speaker 1: who can be late to his own living room. It's 1903 01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:32,599 Speaker 1: pretty there's there's like twenty steps between there on the couch, 1904 01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:37,920 Speaker 1: so twenty David, Hey Buck, I've noticed nobody's talking about 1905 01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:41,960 Speaker 1: cryptocurrency anymore. I saw Bitcoin is trading at seventy five hundred. 1906 01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:44,760 Speaker 1: The dio is bobbing up and down, but pretty healthy 1907 01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:47,000 Speaker 1: considering the circumstances. I'm curious about your thoughts on why 1908 01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:50,040 Speaker 1: cry crypto isn't moving higher with all the uncertainty that exists. 1909 01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:52,360 Speaker 1: Keep up the great work. Don't want producer Mark beat 1910 01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:55,960 Speaker 1: you up too much. David. I think that's a very 1911 01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:58,400 Speaker 1: good question about crypto, because you would think that given 1912 01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:01,160 Speaker 1: all the money printing going on, as we know, it's 1913 01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:04,639 Speaker 1: digits on a screen, it's not really printing printing money. 1914 01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:07,479 Speaker 1: But as we as that's happening, and you have all 1915 01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:10,519 Speaker 1: of this sense of you know, where are you gonna 1916 01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:12,840 Speaker 1: where you're gonna have a store of value that's worthwhile, 1917 01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:16,040 Speaker 1: you have not seen if crypto doesn't have a spike. 1918 01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:17,640 Speaker 1: Now it feels like when is it ever gonna have 1919 01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:19,600 Speaker 1: a spike? Which makes me feel like it really was 1920 01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:22,360 Speaker 1: all Look, they were creating all these different cryptos, there 1921 01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:24,400 Speaker 1: was a scammy nature to some of it. For sure, 1922 01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:28,640 Speaker 1: blockchain technology is certainly worthwhile and interesting. It might have 1923 01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:33,040 Speaker 1: some very very important uses as a technology in the future. 1924 01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:36,320 Speaker 1: But crypto, as you know, I had friends are saying, Oh, 1925 01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:39,840 Speaker 1: crypto's gonna go to one hundred thousand, you know a bitcoin. 1926 01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:42,439 Speaker 1: Each bitcoin were worth one hundred thousand dollars. I'm gonna 1927 01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:45,439 Speaker 1: be super rich. I'm gonna retire on this. I don't. 1928 01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:47,000 Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, look, I'm not giving you advice 1929 01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:48,479 Speaker 1: one or the other. That's not what I do. But 1930 01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:51,160 Speaker 1: it seems pretty dubious to me right now. Producer Mark, 1931 01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:53,040 Speaker 1: did you ever buy any crypto? No, I didn't have 1932 01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:57,479 Speaker 1: money back then. Yeah, I mean yeah, you know that's 1933 01:44:57,960 --> 01:45:01,280 Speaker 1: the crypto thing really felt a little bit like people 1934 01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:03,800 Speaker 1: were trying to just play in a craps game or something, 1935 01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:05,560 Speaker 1: or you know, it's just gambling for a lot of 1936 01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:07,880 Speaker 1: folks because no one really understands it, and they just 1937 01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:09,560 Speaker 1: saw it going up and they figured I want to 1938 01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:11,840 Speaker 1: get in on this. But David, it's a great question. 1939 01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:13,920 Speaker 1: I have not read a single good answer as to 1940 01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:16,439 Speaker 1: why if cryptos not having a big move up now, 1941 01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:18,040 Speaker 1: when is it ever going to have a big move 1942 01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:20,920 Speaker 1: up other than what we saw, which was just a bubble, 1943 01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:24,200 Speaker 1: just like the tulip craze in the Netherlands. It just 1944 01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:26,240 Speaker 1: was a bubble where people were buying crypto. It's going 1945 01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:27,680 Speaker 1: up some more people buy it because they want to 1946 01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:30,479 Speaker 1: get in on it, you know, classic Herd bubble mentality. 1947 01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:34,320 Speaker 1: Mark writes in Buck on Friday's podcast. You mention you 1948 01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:36,360 Speaker 1: thought the debates would be better without an audience, but 1949 01:45:36,439 --> 01:45:39,519 Speaker 1: I disagree. You just know Trump will pull tera read 1950 01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:41,439 Speaker 1: front and center in the audience just to rattle Joe, 1951 01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:45,400 Speaker 1: and it will be fantastic shields high well, Mark, you know, 1952 01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:47,200 Speaker 1: to each his own on this one. You can certainly 1953 01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:51,000 Speaker 1: prefer having an audience. I think Trump is going to 1954 01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:53,960 Speaker 1: bring up the allegations against Joe Biden, and Biden's gonna 1955 01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:58,479 Speaker 1: bring up allegations against Trump, So that's that's something else 1956 01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:02,640 Speaker 1: that we can expect. But yeah, I just don't like 1957 01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:05,360 Speaker 1: the audience making all that noise and kind of getting 1958 01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:08,920 Speaker 1: in the way and being annoying. So I prefer without. 1959 01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:11,080 Speaker 1: But you if you prefer with, then that's fine. You know, 1960 01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:14,720 Speaker 1: tomato tomato. Some people like chocolate ice cream like me. 1961 01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:17,280 Speaker 1: Some people like strawberry. You know who love strawberry ice 1962 01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:22,600 Speaker 1: cream by their producer mark? My parents? Yeah, yeah, I 1963 01:46:22,720 --> 01:46:26,360 Speaker 1: can't believe it now. I go over there and they're like, yeah, 1964 01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, we've got some ice cream in the fridge. 1965 01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:29,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you have. They're like, well, there's 1966 01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:30,720 Speaker 1: the coin you don't like, and then there's a bunch 1967 01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:33,559 Speaker 1: of other things, but we gotta check. Makes me sad. 1968 01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:36,320 Speaker 1: Haven't you been buying their groceries? Do you like revolt 1969 01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:38,720 Speaker 1: and refuse to buy them strawberry? No, I'll get them 1970 01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:41,040 Speaker 1: whatever ice cream they want. I'm a good son. Is 1971 01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:43,600 Speaker 1: nice of you even though they're wrong. I'm good like that. Yeah, No, 1972 01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:45,320 Speaker 1: strawberries gross. We all know it. But it's all righty 1973 01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:46,640 Speaker 1: to each his on them. My mom and dad likes 1974 01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:48,679 Speaker 1: strawberry ice cream. They're allowed to like strawberry ice cream. 1975 01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:52,120 Speaker 1: But they're still wrong. But I love them, chad Buck. 1976 01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:54,280 Speaker 1: The people are claiming to believe the president really meant 1977 01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:56,479 Speaker 1: to cure COVID. We need to inject the disinfect and 1978 01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:58,639 Speaker 1: are the same people that require the warning of hot 1979 01:46:58,720 --> 01:47:00,800 Speaker 1: liquid on the side of their coffee cups. The old 1980 01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:02,960 Speaker 1: adage there is no dumb question goes out the window. 1981 01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:06,479 Speaker 1: With today's media, they prove that wrong every day. Keep 1982 01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:09,240 Speaker 1: up the good workshields high. Chad agreed. By the way, 1983 01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:11,479 Speaker 1: everyone check out bucksexton dot com. 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