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Speaker 1: This is the EDS with Eddie Judge and Edwin Ado Yavi.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the EDGs podcast. I am Eddie Judge. I

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Speaker 1: got my co host with me. Hey, Bud, what's up?

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Speaker 2: What's up? I'm good to see you again.

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Speaker 1: Good to see you too. I'm really stoked about today

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Speaker 1: we get to interview Killie Watson. Killy Watson is the

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Speaker 1: fiance of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills cast member

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Speaker 1: Bo Saint John. Bo Saint John has been on for

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Speaker 1: two seasons now. They are planning two weddings this year

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Speaker 1: and hoping to expand their family. So, Killy, what's to

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Speaker 1: talk about?

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Speaker 3: Lots to talk about, lost, lots. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 3: big year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds it sounds like a big, exciting year

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Speaker 1: with good things happening. I can't wait to hear all

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Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 2: So, hey, can you Killy. I'm excited to have Kenny.

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Speaker 2: I think this is the first Beverly Hills husband we've

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Speaker 2: had on here, right.

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Speaker 1: Excellent point. Yeah, am I really the first? You're the

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Speaker 1: first Beverly House Beverly Hills house husband that we've had

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Speaker 1: on here. Yeah. I think it's partially because by the

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Speaker 1: time we got our podcasts up and running. The Beverly

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Speaker 1: Hills Housewives were all single, so they had no husbands.

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Speaker 2: Everyone separating time.

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Speaker 3: That's fair, that's fair.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know relationships, man, Yes they are.

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Speaker 3: We all know they were at that age where we know, right.

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Speaker 1: So, killy, let's get started here. I really want to

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Speaker 1: get to know you. Tell us a little bit about yourself.

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Speaker 1: Where'd you grow up, where are you from, any siblings,

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Speaker 1: tell us who you are?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, we're going to take away back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who's the who's the real killie? Because the one

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Speaker 1: on the show is not the one they always represent, right,

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Speaker 1: that's it's that's just my take.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, true to that, to that that

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Speaker 3: point there.

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Speaker 4: So born born in Los Angeles and then at a

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Speaker 4: very very young age, not long after birth, moved to Pasadena.

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Speaker 4: So born and raised. We're raised in Pasadena, California. So

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Speaker 4: I'm a true Cali native. Love sunshine. I'm a beach guy.

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Speaker 4: I do have come from a family of six.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah, So.

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Speaker 4: I have two sisters, a brother, and then I have

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Speaker 4: a step sister.

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Speaker 3: We're a half sister.

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Speaker 1: Rather, are you the oldest, No, I.

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Speaker 3: Am number three in line.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say four, But yeah, I'm number three,

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Speaker 4: uh in the immediate family. And so I have two

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Speaker 4: as well, and we're all like super close, like we

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Speaker 4: love each other, you know, regularly.

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Speaker 3: It's great.

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Speaker 2: Did you grow up on the good side of Pasadena?

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Speaker 2: On the side of Pasadena?

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Speaker 4: No, I'm gonna say I grew up in the middle,

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Speaker 4: I was saying, in the middle, So we.

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Speaker 3: Weren't quite on the bad side. We weren't definitely weren't

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Speaker 4: But you know, I'm glad I grew up around the

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Speaker 4: neighborhood guys, because you know, I was real big into sports,

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Speaker 4: played sports heavily.

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Speaker 3: And you know, as kids, we're all in the same.

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Speaker 4: Boat, right, but then some of us, just for some

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Speaker 4: reason or another, we take different turns in life.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I was happy I knew them by

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well what sports did you play growing up?

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Speaker 4: So? I played football. Football and baseball were my major

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Speaker 4: two sports. Let's see, I'm classically playing, classically trained cellist,

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Speaker 4: so I played.

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Speaker 3: Cello for twelve years.

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Speaker 4: I believe it was all City cellos always sat chairs

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Speaker 4: one of those things that I didn't appreciate as a

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Speaker 3: You see. I used to hate it though when I

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Speaker 3: first started playing. It was such a funny story. And

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Speaker 3: how I even got introduced to the cello.

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Speaker 1: So I could only imagine coming home from school and

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh man, Yeah, it was treacherous. I did not.

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Speaker 4: So funny story way way back in primary school. You know,

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Speaker 4: it was kind of pick a hobby day, pick your

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Speaker 4: instrument day, so they had all of these instruments laid out.

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Speaker 4: I've always liked the French horn, you know, just based

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Speaker 4: as soon as I saw the French horn, I went

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Speaker 4: to it and I grabbed it, and I blew as

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Speaker 4: this isn't gonna work. I was so disappointed, the biggest

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Speaker 4: breath ever, right, And so I went over to the

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Speaker 4: cello and you know, there was a teacher there and

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Speaker 3: My height, they said, you know, not a lot of.

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Speaker 4: Uh people really play the cello.

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Speaker 3: Why don't you try this?

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Speaker 4: I said, okay, And from that point on I was

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I carry that big thing trying to play.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I had to, Yeah, there was you know, I

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Speaker 4: come from the area where our parents made us walk

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Speaker 1: There was no well we were from the same area.

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Speaker 1: I ride my bicycle right, and I have a similar story,

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Speaker 1: Oh did you? Oh? Yeah, mine was with the trombone

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Speaker 1: and I was I think it was junior high and

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Speaker 1: I was gravitating towards the saxophone. And that's the only

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Speaker 1: reason I signed up for that damn class. And sure enough,

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Speaker 1: they didn't have enough saxophones to go around, and all

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Speaker 1: smaller than the tuba. And I'll never forget my struggles

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Speaker 1: taking that damn thing home on my bicycle. I think

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Speaker 1: I tried it twice, and I said, I'm not going

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeah, you feel my pain.

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Speaker 1: Then I feel your pa brother, right, but you kept

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Speaker 1: it going. And you know not that I would be

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Speaker 1: embarrassed to play the trombone now. But there's not much

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Speaker 1: lot more you can do with the cello, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, aside from going on and being in a symphony.

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Speaker 4: You know that just I mean that's I mean, that's

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Speaker 4: I just knew that wasn't my route.

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Speaker 3: I did it.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of one of those things to make you

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Speaker 4: more well rounded in high school.

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Speaker 3: It'll look more attractive to the colleges.

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Speaker 4: And since I was good at it, I continue I

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Speaker 4: just continued on with it. And then, you know, with anything,

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Speaker 3: You to be a professional. At that point, did the cello?

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Speaker 2: Did the cello attract the ladies in high school?

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Speaker 3: You know what? I would say, there's more so the football.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say the football probably the football.

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Speaker 1: Did did you have did did edwin? Did you have

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Speaker 2: You know, you know, I played the flute and I

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Speaker 2: was really good at it. But I do have a

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Speaker 2: funny story about I was a fake when I first

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Speaker 2: met Teddy. I was a fake keyboardist.

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Speaker 3: I would I would keyboardists.

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Speaker 2: Yes. So my friend had a gothic band, still has it.

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Speaker 2: It's actually a very popular one. And he just calls

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Speaker 2: me up one day and he's like, when I need

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Speaker 2: you to be my keyboard? Is I need you? We're

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Speaker 2: going to go all over Europe. I said, that sounds great,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know how to play the keyboard. Is

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Speaker 2: you don't need to know how to play the keyboard.

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Speaker 2: I just need you to look good on stage playing

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Speaker 2: the keyboard. And uh so that's what I did. I

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Speaker 1: You know, that's such a that's such an any thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly. Kind of looks like you're kind of

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Speaker 2: But I had no idea. I actually tried learning, and

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Speaker 2: And and then Teddy made me quit about a year

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Speaker 1: It sound fake, right, right, right, right right. I have

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Speaker 1: a really good friend. He's a very successful attorney and

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Speaker 1: mountain biker used to race Moto GP. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: He sat down behind his his piano and played something

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Speaker 1: jaw drop and we're like, why are you practicing law?

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Speaker 1: You're so good at this And it blew my mind.

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Speaker 1: But it really made me appreciate the skill, the talent

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Speaker 1: that you gain that you never think you're gonna use.

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Speaker 1: Right Like, one day, you never know the local opera

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Speaker 3: But that happens, that means the opera has failed.

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Speaker 1: The world.

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Speaker 3: Exactly. Oh man. But you know, I really like growing

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Speaker 4: You know what's interesting, It it's.

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Speaker 3: Different today than it was when I was growing up.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so growing up in the mid eighties, that's when

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Speaker 4: like Gang Bang it was at its peak. Okay, in Pasadena,

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Speaker 4: Pasadena and Los Angeles, you would never know Old Town

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Speaker 4: was not the old town it is today Old town?

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Speaker 3: Are you guys both familiar with passing?

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Speaker 4: I fautiful game, so beautiful city, right, But I mean

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Speaker 4: it was rough. It had its rough areas by shootings.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, my god, epidemic and so you know,

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Speaker 4: my parents they worked really hard to keep us disassociated

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: My dad was an r N my mom was a cosmetologist,

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Speaker 4: so professionals, right, But they were really hard working and

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Speaker 4: they really worked hard to take us on vacations.

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Speaker 3: I mean we used to.

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Speaker 4: I skied as a kid, was a booky boarder, definitely

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Speaker 3: So I loved like that BMX lifestyle back in the day.

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Speaker 4: But at the time, they kept us very involved in sports,

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Speaker 4: of I would say, well, okay, as every kid, we're mischievous, right,

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Speaker 4: mischievous a little bit. We go through our phases, but

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Speaker 4: so we never got involved in the gangs, nor did

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Speaker 1: So you went to college, would you study in school?

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Speaker 3: Believe it or not.

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Speaker 4: You guys will never guess what position I played. I'm

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Speaker 4: I played? My frame, but you have my size?

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Speaker 2: Again right now? So did you grow up? So you

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Speaker 4: Ye yeah, still a Raider fan today, and then also

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Speaker 4: That team was team ever. You know Jerry, I mean Jerry,

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Speaker 3: Exactly. It was underwater.

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Speaker 2: I had a nice little championship party at my house

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you know they gave me so much.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I can imagine. I actually wanted

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Speaker 1: So who is going right?

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Speaker 2: See?

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Speaker 1: I don't take Patriots again? Okay?

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Speaker 4: Interesting right, interesting teams that ended up making right matchup

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Speaker 4: So interestingly enough, I was trying to decide between Atlanta

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Speaker 4: And the answer was I didn't think so, you know,

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00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 4: it just wasn't outside of that lifestyle. There wasn't a

446
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 4: lot what do you think, well, you know, the beaches,

447
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 4: the trails, the lifestyle, and it was, you know, again,

448
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 4: outside of the college life, there wasn't a whole lot

449
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 4: else that I was really interested in, even though it

450
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 4: was you know, I mean like a mecca for you know,

451
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 4: young black men and women.

452
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 3: I felt really good being there.

453
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 4: I determined it was a better place to visit and

454
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 4: I would essentially go back to California.

455
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: Okay, where'd you land?

456
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 4: And so when I landed in California, this is after

457
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 4: my father's passing.

458
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 3: My mom had moved to a Zusa, California.

459
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 4: So I went back home as I started looking at careers,

460
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 4: ended up landing at the Glendora Chamber of Commerce. I

461
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 4: was really good at event coordinating, and so my first

462
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 4: job out of college was being chief director of Events

463
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 4: for the Glendora Chamber of Commerce. And so I planned

464
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 4: like golf tournaments, like a flashback to fifties type of

465
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 4: car event. I did the the farmers' markets. I was

466
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 4: responsible for that, along with a few other big activities

467
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,959
Speaker 4: for the city. So I really learned how to interact

468
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 4: with city officials and interact on a more mature level

469
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 4: with people, you know, I guess in those types of positions.

470
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very interesting and very valuable experience. Honestly, Yeah,

471
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:37,239
Speaker 1: it was.

472
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 3: It was.

473
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 4: And then for a while I tried to do the

474
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 4: Hollywood thing, which is, of course the acting. Everybody says,

475
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 4: everybody from California is going to try it, and so.

476
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 3: I got some head shots made.

477
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 4: And you know, while I was trying to pursue that career,

478
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 4: it was interesting because again, you have high highs and

479
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 4: you have low lows, right, you have the peaks and

480
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 4: you have the valves.

481
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 3: Right. So at one point in time, commercials were flowing in.

482
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 4: Money was good, okay, and then all of a sudden

483
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 4: it got flat, right, And so I learned a long

484
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 4: time ago, I ended up letting my position go, and

485
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,479
Speaker 4: thankfully I had substitute teaching, so I was doing some teaching,

486
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 4: oh yes, and that really taught me how to be

487
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 4: a good presenter and how to manage kids.

488
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, they taught me how.

489
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 4: To manage kids and essentially kept me from one and

490
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 4: a half kids until I had some help, let's say,

491
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 4: bad thing. But it also helped me to understand that,

492
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 4: you know, as a partner, right, I mean, like your lady,

493
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 4: it really does matter having support in the homes, like you,

494
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 4: teachers really do need support from the parents and the

495
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 4: homes to help reinforce what's being learned in the schools.

496
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 3: And so I saw that.

497
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 4: Side, right, The kids who had the support really tended

498
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 4: to excel a little bit more than the kids didn't

499
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 4: have the support. I remember there was a time, you know,

500
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 4: I called there was a kid acting up. I forgot

501
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 4: what he was doing, but I mean he was just.

502
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 3: Wilding out basically in the classroom. So I said, hey,

503
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna call him up. He was like,

504
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: go ahead and call my mom. I don't care, you know.

505
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 2: So I taught it.

506
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 4: Taught for areas, Okay, I think like south central East La, Okay,

507
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 4: in the more urban areas. And wow, when I called

508
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 4: the parents, right the mom answered and I said, I

509
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 4: said yeah. I said, uh, you know, I'm just gonna

510
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 4: say Jay. I'm gonna throw the name out there. I'm

511
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 4: just gonna say Jay. So yeah, I said, he's not

512
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 4: sitting down. I said, he's unfocused. He's throwing stuff across

513
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 4: the classroom. And then she helped to start finishing my sentens.

514
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 3: She said, yeah, I bet you. You don't want to listen,

515
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 3: don't want to do this. He said, no, don't send

516
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 3: them home, keep them in the classroom. I do, yeah, exactly.

517
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 3: So what do I do at that point?

518
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 4: So I had to kind of get creative, you know,

519
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 4: in the classroom, and you know, I came up with

520
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 4: all kinds of things being you know, with my football background,

521
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 4: athletic background, what I ended up doing, I came up

522
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 4: with something, hold your education high, right, because being in

523
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 4: a fraternity, I'm I'm a member of our five fraternity first,

524
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 4: you know, African American fraternity founded back in nineteen oh six.

525
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 4: So anywhere I go, you know, I have a sense

526
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 4: of friendship and brotherhood because I can always find fellow

527
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 4: brothers or fellow members of.

528
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 3: My fraternity there.

529
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, whatever, Right, So we used to have to hold

530
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 4: outa high right where we maybe hold some bricks up

531
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 4: or hold something above our head while sitting in and

532
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 4: invisible chair.

533
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 3: And so what I'd had the kid do to.

534
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 4: Kind of, you know, as a disciplinary action in class,

535
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 4: I'd have them do like what's called the invisible chair,

536
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 4: and then I'd have them grab their textbook and I'd

537
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 4: have them hold it over their head sitting against the wall,

538
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 4: no chair, and you've got to do that for three minutes, right,

539
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,719
Speaker 4: And so it was a lesson for the student as

540
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 4: well as the class because I said, I said, hey,

541
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 4: I said, pretty soon, you're going to feel the weight

542
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 4: of having an education. And I'd sit there and tell them.

543
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 4: I said, yeah, you see you're sweating now, right, it hurts.

544
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 4: I said, you feel like that. I said, that's the

545
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 4: weight of being educated. I said, I feel that's what's

546
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 4: going to carry you through life. I said, you guys,

547
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 4: that education is heavy. That's why it's so important hold

548
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 4: that education. High value that education, feel the way to

549
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 4: that push you through life. So I turned it into

550
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 4: a whole lesson, right, and you know, I rallied the

551
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 4: kids around that kid to.

552
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 3: Be able to you know, push him through, encourage him,

553
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: motivate him. And it usually worked. Yeah, it works, you see.

554
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, and it's certainly something you could

555
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: practice at home too.

556
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 4: Without Once I do have kids, you know, yeah, fifty

557
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 4: years old, no kids.

558
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: We'll probably talk about that later.

559
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm right there with you, though, I'm also fifty two,

560
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: no kids ever in my life. I've always I have

561
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: adopted kids, but you know, from my wife, but I

562
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: don't have any kids at my own.

563
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, yeah, that's you know, I don't know the

564
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 4: backstory on that, but it could be similar.

565
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

566
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 4: And then after you know, substitute teach doing the teaching,

567
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 4: the substitute teaching as well, as you know the acting,

568
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 4: you know, I put a solid ten years into it.

569
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 4: And something acting taught me was to really pay attention

570
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 4: to the person in front of me. It taught me

571
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 4: how to be a really good listener, right, and to

572
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 4: listen to what's being said, but on a much deeper level.

573
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: Okay.

574
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: A lot of.

575
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 4: Times when people are talking, you hear they'll say one

576
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 4: something on the surface, right, but that's not the route.

577
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 4: What is the underlying context there? So there's always context

578
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 4: to it. Okay, So you're saying I'm not spending as

579
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 4: much time I'm not around, you want to go out,

580
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 4: So what you're really saying is you need my attention

581
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 4: right now?

582
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 3: Okay, So there's always some type of subtext there. What's

583
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 3: the route to really makes sense?

584
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 4: So it's taught me that, Yeah, that the elevated my

585
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 4: emotional I would say my EQ, not my IQ.

586
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 3: But EQ IQ.

587
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: I took acting classes in college myself because I registered

588
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: too late, and it was just one of those things

589
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: that I need to learn and have the confidence to

590
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: stand up in front of people and do a presentation

591
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: because in my mind, my vision was I'm going to

592
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 1: be a businessman one day and I'm going to need

593
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: to speak to either my employees or presentation or whatever.

594
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: And the biggest lesson I learned in that class was

595
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: getting in touch with my emotional intelligence and understanding my emotions,

596
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: because as a kid, I didn't know that I was

597
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: so damn emotional, Like I'd cry when I was pissed off,

598
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, eight years old, I'm.

599
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: Like, why am I crying?

600
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: I should be mad, you know. And it really taught

601
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: me how to understand and work through my emotions. And

602
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: it didn't really help me as an actor because I

603
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: still couldn't be a serious actor. And I think generally

604
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: in life, I'm not a serious guy. I try to

605
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: joke around about everything. I mean, I'm serious when it's business,

606
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: but I make lighthearted jokes and points about everything around

607
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: me and I look for the silver lining. But it's

608
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: kept me out of trouble and out of heart ache

609
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: and depression and all those you know, doubtful feelings that

610
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: come with that. But I liked I liked to experience emotions,

611
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: but I also like to understand them and control them

612
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: as much as possible. So that's that really was my

613
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: biggest takeaway because as a kid, I was very emotional.

614
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, how about you Edwin. You know, it's funny.

615
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: I did do the acting thing for you and I

616
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 2: have a lot of in common. So I grew up

617
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: in Huntingdon Park. I don't know if you know where

618
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: that is. It's southeast h P.

619
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 3: So I grew up there.

620
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: And then I actually got introduced to the West Side

621
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: because a friend of mine got booked on a show called.

622
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 6: Power Rangers, so he started taking me to the West Side.

623
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 6: So he books the Power Rangers, he starts taking me

624
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 6: to the West Side to go party and I.

625
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 2: Was like, whoa, look at the chicks here. They look

626
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: totally different, people dressed different here, and it's just like,

627
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: this is where I belong. And so then I got

628
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: hooked up with a talent agency over there and and uh,

629
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: similar I got some stuff done and I was really

630
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: doing it for the girls because it was just like

631
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: every time I go, it was like hot girls everywhere

632
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: and uh and then the call center that I worked

633
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: for after a while was like, hey, you can't keep

634
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: going to these auditions. And then I had to make

635
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: a decision do I you know, I was going broke

636
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: trying to be a actor slash model, or do I

637
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: make some money and I stick to the call center,

638
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: and uh, I think I made the right choice. But

639
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: that's how I got introduced to the West Side. So yeah,

640
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: I guess yeah.

641
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

642
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: But in the eighties, Yeah, it was you know, gang

643
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: bangers all around everywhere, and they were everywhere, and yeah,

644
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: I'd be friended some of them, so some of them

645
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: protected me. But I was never into the whole gangster

646
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: thing myself, so yeah, and my mom did a good

647
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: job to kind of keep me away from all that stuff.

648
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: Like I still remember the riots and like there was

649
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: a shoe store that was like a block away from

650
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: we lived, and I could see everyone running away with

651
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: shoes and I was like, this is my shot a

652
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 2: Jordan's and my mom would have let me. But my

653
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 2: mom would have let me out, and I remember crying,

654
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 2: like I could go get Jordan.

655
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: I should be out there. Ye not out there right now.

656
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 3: I could see.

657
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: That's a funny, funny irony because that started happening. Was

658
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: it last year or two years ago when that shit

659
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,959
Speaker 1: started happening in California again?

660
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: Yeah?

661
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, somehow repeats itself.

662
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.

663
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Speaker 4: Where not whether or not it's with advance. It always

664
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Speaker 4: seems to come back around.

665
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but this time was with persons, right, they were

666
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: all going into the purse stores, right, well.

667
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: Now they know the value, you know. Yeah, we weren't

668
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 3: trying to walk out with persons.

669
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Speaker 4: Then there were more so the TVs, the shoes, sweatsuits.

670
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: And they kill you while you were substituting in all

671
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: the schools out of the South Central area. I was

672
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: selling home security systems in watts and Compton. I was

673
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: going door to doors selling alarm systems.

674
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, so you're familiar with the area.

675
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, you're familiar with the area, so you

676
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 4: know what it is.

677
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: But I say this, they were some of the most

678
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 3: fun kids.

679
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 4: They were some of the most fun kids that I've

680
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 4: had an opportunity to interact with. No sensel, no sense

681
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 4: of entitlement. We're just down to earth and fun. So

682
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 4: I've had some good times with them. But I just

683
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 4: knew the teaching route wasn't the way to go because

684
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 4: I didn't want to make money. And I do believe

685
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 4: teachers should be paid, probably up there with doctors, just

686
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 4: because they're educating the young minds.

687
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: They have to put up so much, right yeah.

688
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, so I definitely support our teachers. But eventually

689
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 4: I did have to leave. And so that being the case,

690
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 4: the reason I didn't continue on with the acting was because,

691
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 4: funny story, I had two good friends, and I remembered

692
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 4: just looking across.

693
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 3: I'll start with the audition. So I remember being at

694
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 3: a couple of commercial auditions. I looked across and.

695
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 4: I saw, you know, older people, you know, sixties seventies,

696
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 4: still auditioning.

697
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: And I said, wow, I said, by that age, I

698
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: don't want to have to audition anymore.

699
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 4: Here I am at about thirty three thirty two now,

700
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 4: so this is about eight. Then came close to getting

701
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 4: getting getting some big breaks, but just didn't get that

702
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 4: thing right. And in talking to one of my buddies,

703
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 4: I remember he was I went over to his house

704
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 4: to work on an audition, and I had an epiphany.

705
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 4: I saw life for an actor at fifty six, still

706
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 4: trying to make it, you know, just a two barroom apartment,

707
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 4: roommate still and just not a whole lot. And I said, man,

708
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 4: I said, this is life for an actor, still trying

709
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 4: to make it at fifty.

710
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: Six, right.

711
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 4: And then there was another lady who eventually came under me,

712
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 4: you know, as like a training because after acting, you know,

713
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 4: I was transitioning into my business development side. So I

714
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 4: did like some life assurance sales and we'll talk about that.

715
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 3: And so she was one of my trainees, right brought

716
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 3: on as an agent, and she essentially had a master's degree.

717
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 4: I mean she had a master's degree, published author, very

718
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 4: very smart lady left Corporate America to pursue writing and

719
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 4: producing and I never did. She had to ask me

720
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 4: for like four hundred and fifty dollars to help cover

721
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 4: her rent. I'm like, wow. She was early fifties as well,

722
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 4: and I said wow. I said, that's life for someone

723
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,479
Speaker 4: in entertainment starting to make it. And so I said,

724
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 4: that can't be me. And that's when I made the

725
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 4: ultimate my switch career switch, and then started going the

726
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 4: business development route, the sales route, did payrolls sales, payroll sales.

727
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 4: I got into medical sales, search device sales and excelled

728
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 4: and all of that, and that's what essentially catapulted me

729
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 4: into where I'm at now, which is business development, entrepreneurship,

730
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 4: and stayed in the health and wellness space.

731
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: So I do have a men's health cleanic her In

732
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 3: and Seno. So it was the first when my.

733
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 4: Business partner and I opened up about it just over

734
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:53,959
Speaker 4: a year ago.

735
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, two once we're working on growing that business.

736
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: Now, tell us about that, tell us about Yeah.

737
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Speaker 2: I didn't see those, so I would love to go visit.

738
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, especially if you're in Singe, you're gonna have

739
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 3: to come by. So yeah, it's called.

740
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 4: A Seno Game day Men's health, and we specifically exist

741
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 4: to help.

742
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 3: Men show up better in their lives.

743
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 4: Right, not just in their day to day lives, but

744
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 4: for their families, for their careers, and just for the

745
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 4: world in general. Right, So when men feel their best,

746
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 4: they show up their best everywhere?

747
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: Right, would you guys three? That absolutely? And so what mo.

748
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 4: Guys and our age range is, So my sweet spot

749
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 4: is thirty to sixty five, and guys in our age.

750
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 3: Range, you know where the guys who come in, we.

751
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 4: Just don't have that same level of energy, Anya Moore,

752
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 4: that same level of energy anymore.

753
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 3: I want to give you guys that clean We might

754
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 3: be suffering from fatigue.

755
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 4: Let's say we don't have the same mental clarity because

756
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 4: it's all of the stresses.

757
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 3: You know.

758
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 4: Now, you know we're in our forties, fifties, we have

759
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 4: our businesses, and so our testosterol levels drop, right, And

760
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 4: so what typically ends up happening is it's not necessarily

761
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 4: stress related with why we can't keep up or achieve

762
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 4: the same results we used to achieve in the gym

763
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 4: or just running or being as active.

764
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: It's hormones.

765
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 4: Because of our hormones, you see, And so our testosterol

766
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 4: levels are low. And so I'm very passionate about aging

767
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 4: as best I can, right, And so it's about getting older,

768
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 4: stronger and better healthier as we age. And so we

769
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 4: offer peptide therapy, testosterone replacement therapy, you know, as men somehow,

770
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 4: no matter, how is it that we eat less and

771
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 4: still seem to put on weight, right, We don't have

772
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 4: those big.

773
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 3: Appetites we used to have.

774
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 4: Now it seems like I have a pizza weekend, you know,

775
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 4: some wings during Super Bowl, get get into the holidays,

776
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,439
Speaker 4: and I'm up seven pounds candles. And so we help

777
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 4: guys re optimize their vitality, their energy levels through non

778
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 4: surgical ways. So we are a men's specialty clinic. We've

779
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 4: essentially condensed three visits into one. We're not replacing your

780
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 4: primary care physicians. We're working alongside your primary care physicians.

781
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 4: But we're specialty. We're specialty clinic. So think testosterone peptide therapy,

782
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 4: the GOP one, GOP two, so clinical weight loss, vitamin wellness,

783
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 4: MSK treatment, that's the super tendons, the soft tissue injuries.

784
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 3: Things like that.

785
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 4: We do hair PRP so I do my hair PRP shots.

786
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, I'm sitting in my office

787
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 4: within the clinic now and did a B twelve plus

788
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 4: mix shot just because my energy was low.

789
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 3: So it's all about observation, you guys and doers.

790
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 4: We have our in house lab and we run your

791
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 4: test for free and your PSA levels and within twenty

792
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 4: minutes you have your results. So you're not going to

793
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 4: see all these different specialists out there. We are on

794
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 4: a specialty man's health clinic.

795
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: I love it.

796
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: I love it. That sounds nice.

797
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: Way, what level do you recommend a fifty year olds

798
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 2: testosterol level to be at?

799
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 3: You should be over six fifty easily easily six to fifty.

800
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 4: So I think for me, I try to stay within

801
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 4: that six fifty to nine hundred range. And because I

802
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 4: still want kids, I've never gotten on the testosterone. I've

803
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 4: always fallen within that, okay, but I will do peptides.

804
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 4: You know, I just finished a nice stack about a

805
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 4: month ago, and I'm going to jump on another, a

806
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 4: very specific stack, because I want the lean muscle mass.

807
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 4: I need to burn the vistel. I want the energy,

808
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 4: and i want the college in production. So it's about

809
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 4: what you do now that's going to show up five

810
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 4: years from now.

811
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Speaker 2: And and all right, no, I love that because I

812
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 2: heard of it goes too high. It's also not good, right, yeah,

813
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 2: where it gets a little dangerous of his too high

814
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 2: for But you have heard that six fifty is a great,

815
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: great range. Six fifty It really is.

816
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 4: And you know you can you can actually talk to

817
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 4: your primary care physician about it, or you're intocrinologist about it.

818
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 4: But the thing is, insurance doesn't really cover it until

819
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 4: you become clinically no. But by that time you're feeling blah,

820
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 4: you know, you sho it be walking around feeling like

821
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 4: a zombie basically, right, And so you want to keep that,

822
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 4: You want to keep your libido up, you want to

823
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 4: keep your lean muscle mass, and you just want that

824
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 4: energy to go.

825
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 3: And so many guys who come in they walk out

826
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: with their lives changed.

827
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 4: It's so good seeing these guys come in one way

828
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 4: and we're dealing with these are these are working professionals,

829
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 4: I mean like diehard attorneys coming in, doctor coming in

830
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 4: to see us, right, because again we're one hundred percent

831
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 4: cash pay. We don't do insurance just because it requires

832
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 4: too much to do insurance. Most guys just want to

833
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 4: break appointment, they want to start, and we've turned it

834
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 4: into a concierge of roach where we actually have It's

835
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 4: it's not the traditional white office that you walk into.

836
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 4: There's ESPN on all the TVs, drink snacks available. Uh,

837
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 4: it looks nothing like like you would assume clinic.

838
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: Do you guys offer any meal prep kind of stuff?

839
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 3: No meal prep? But I mean, of course we can

840
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 3: refer you out. You know.

841
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't do the dietary portion of it, but

842
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 4: we formed partnerships within our community to be able to

843
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 4: do that. And our goal is just to be that

844
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 4: go to place within you know, Tarzanna, Rosita and the

845
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 4: San Fernavo Valley in general. When men think of pep

846
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 4: tize testos replacement to get everything, I mean.

847
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 3: We do what I called libido tune ups. You see

848
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: we really help man feel like that a plus selves.

849
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: Again, that sounds it sounds like a male medspa.

850
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 4: Sim but there's a difference. So you know, I've gotten

851
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 4: this question a lot. What's the difference between a medical

852
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 4: clinic and a mad spot?

853
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 3: Okay?

854
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 4: Mad spots typically focused on things like Michael Needling.

855
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 3: Let's say the fillers, the botox.

856
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 4: Make me skin, you know, anything that's very aesthetic, you see,

857
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 4: and so they rarely ever prescribe maybe the peptize.

858
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: They don't treat, like you dysfunction.

859
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 4: Sorry for saying that on your podcast here, but you

860
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 4: know we're men, so we're libido tune ups, so they're

861
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 4: more spy focus. You walk in, you have the soft

862
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 4: music playing. Perhaps it really feels like a spot. But

863
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 4: we are a medical practice. You know, it's clinician driven.

864
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 4: You're talking to clinicians, no nps pas or a medical director.

865
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 3: We have our own in house labs, so we're able.

866
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 4: To treat you where we try to treat the symptom,

867
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 4: but we don't treat disease states.

868
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 3: So we're not the people who you come to for.

869
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 4: Let's say kidney failure. Right, you're having GI track issues. Okay,

870
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 4: we stay in our lane and we're the best at

871
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 4: what we do.

872
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: It's interesting how many men have you had come through

873
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: your facility that have adopted the feeling like shit all

874
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: the time as a normal thing, like you know, it's

875
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: just the way it is. And all of a sudden

876
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: you change their life and all of a sudden they

877
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: feel young again and they have this clear mind and

878
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: lots of energy and feel vibrant.

879
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 4: Yes, so many guys, so many guys, and it's such

880
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 4: just it's so great to see the art. That's what

881
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 4: it essentially got me into the medical device world, as

882
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 4: well as the health and wellness space. You know, just

883
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 4: knowing that you've impacted somebody's life just a little bit,

884
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 4: even if it's five percent, ten percent, you're helping them

885
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 4: show up better.

886
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 3: And I love and my goal.

887
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 4: Is to get the word out there that we exist

888
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 4: and sing on game day man South, we exist. And

889
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 4: so that being the case, Eddie, I'd love for you

890
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 4: to come in at some point or Edwin being the

891
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 4: child book in California, we're getting ready to start our

892
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 4: telehealth practice as well for guys to stay a little

893
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 4: bit further out, and again, we are definitely going to

894
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 4: be opening more of of these. That's the plan. We

895
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 4: just have to get this one up and rouning and

896
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 4: up and running, I mean at cruising altitude. I mean

897
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 4: we all have startups, right, we know the business?

898
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

899
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 3: And uh defeat the competition.

900
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: When did you meet your bows? How did that whole

901
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: thing come down? Well?

902
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: But before we go there, I want to preface this

903
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: with a little bit about Bowse only because she's a

904
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 1: she's a a very successful woman, has accomplished tremendous things

905
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: in life. And I'm going to list a few Yeah,

906
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna list a few items here because I want

907
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: the listeners to really hear what you got. You know,

908
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: what you got on your lab like this is this

909
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: is a unique situation that most men can't handle, you

910
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So Bose was a marketing executive

911
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: at several companies, PEPSI, Head of Music and Entertainment The

912
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: Beats by Dre head of marketing, chief brand officer at Uber,

913
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: chief marketing officer at Endeavor, Chief marketing officer at Netflix.

914
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: She wrote a memoir, The Urgent Life, and she even

915
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: co hosted a competition reality show with Jimmy Fallen called

916
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: on Brand. Yes, this girl has done a lot of

917
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: really big things.

918
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 3: Man, Like I said, she's a titan, I mean love

919
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 3: of one of the thing.

920
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 4: I mean hall of fame Marketer, right, yeah, marketing, hall

921
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 4: of fame. And she recently launched her hair company even

922
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 4: by Bose is always moving. I love it. I love

923
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 4: the energy. But such a great match for that reason. Now,

924
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 4: so you finished the answer, Okay, go ahead, I'll let

925
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 4: you get to the questions because I could talk about.

926
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: My woman all day.

927
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: By the way, I am curious. Was she like getting

928
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 2: recruited from every company after because it seemed like every

929
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: two years somebody she was at a different company. Was

930
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: that she was just kept getting headhunted?

931
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? That was it? I mean that was it. Wow.

932
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 3: So you know people, you know the game, it's it's people.

933
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 4: When when you're hot, when you're up there, people are

934
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 4: going to try and recruit your way.

935
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 3: That's that's just the name of the game.

936
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, in every place she's had success.

937
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: So here's here's the biggest question. How in the world

938
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: did you meet her? How did you guys meet yep?

939
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 4: So I love the story because it's one of those that, uh,

940
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 4: you don't hear that often, right, It's kind of like

941
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 4: a dream. Weren't like talking online or anything, but we

942
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,760
Speaker 4: did talk a little bit about it on the show.

943
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 4: And I met her through my nephew. Okay, so Bozma,

944
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 4: you know that's how you pronounce your name for everybody

945
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 4: out there. Some people say boss or Bozma, but it's

946
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 4: Bosma Bosma yep. And so my nephew he's married to

947
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 4: a very well known artist.

948
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 3: As in like she her genre is art like campus

949
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: like that type of work, right wow.

950
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 4: And so Bose is an art collector and she was

951
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 4: online googling certain types of a certain type of art

952
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 4: piece that she was looking for, and she happened to

953
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 4: come across Harmonia with Salas that's my nephew, his wife,

954
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,479
Speaker 4: and so she fell in love with her word, got

955
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 4: in contact with my nephew like, hey, how do I

956
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 4: become a collector? And so that being the case, my

957
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 4: nephew just happened me to say, well, we actually have

958
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 4: a show that will be showcasing her artwork at it's

959
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 4: down in Atlanta. You know, you can come down to

960
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 4: Atlanta if you want to. And so she packed up,

961
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 4: flew down to Atlanta and got a chance to be Harmonia,

962
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 4: got a chance.

963
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 3: To meet my nephew. And here I am on the

964
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 3: West coast.

965
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 4: So I'm just doing my thing, you know, thinking word business,

966
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 4: everything else. And you know, I'm scrolling Instagram one night

967
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 4: and my nephew he posted, you know, some a nice

968
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 4: carousel of picks from the event that night, and I'm

969
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 4: scrolling through and I see.

970
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 3: This, you know woman in a real address. I'm like,

971
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 3: oh man, she's bad. And you know, so I messed

972
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 3: with my nephew. Who's that nephew? Oh, you know, just

973
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 3: met her. You know, she's a fan of Harmonia's work.

974
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 3: And I had no idea who she was when our

975
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 3: messaged her.

976
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 4: You know, I'm just thinking, like, okay, so he told

977
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 4: me super cool, right, she's very cool and everything else.

978
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 4: And with her being in Atlanta, I automatically figure she

979
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 4: lived there, and I know, long this relationships typically don't

980
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 4: work out, so I just said okay.

981
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 3: I didn't think much of it.

982
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 4: And so my nephew and his wife ended up having

983
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 4: and intimate event at their place right up here in

984
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 4: Woodland Hills where it was a pre collection release, you know,

985
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 4: just kind of like something or showcase, just to kind

986
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 4: of introduce her next collection. Talk a little bit about

987
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 4: her book that she was writing, and with that being

988
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 4: the case, you know, she was going to be there.

989
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 4: So she and her friends ended up showing there. They

990
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 4: invited her to that event, and again, I live in

991
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 4: San Diego, so I had no idea this was really.

992
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 2: Not to happen.

993
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 4: And so my nephew he approaches her because when she

994
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 4: was at the eventual actually there with the guy, so

995
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 4: she thought, I mean, my nephew thought that maybe it was,

996
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 4: you know, somebody that they were kind of talking dating possibly,

997
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 4: and he said, you know, the energy just seemed off.

998
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 4: It didn't seem like they were together together. And so

999
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 4: long story show, we're going to fast forward. He essentially

1000
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 4: pulled her aside. He was like, so, boss, tell me, like,

1001
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 4: what's up?

1002
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 3: Like, you're dating anybodybody? Know, what's the deal?

1003
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 4: You know. So he's put somebody down in Atlanta and

1004
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 4: she said, wow, you got somebody for me. He was

1005
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 4: like maybe and she said why, She said, of course who?

1006
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 4: And then that's when he said my uncle. And she

1007
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 4: was like, do I look like I date uncle? You know,

1008
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 4: because my nephew he's thirty eight now, so you think, okay,

1009
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 4: Uncle sixty five somewhere there, you know, the guy with

1010
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 4: the matching suit.

1011
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 3: The shoot fuddy, that kind of thing. So her girls

1012
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 3: were like, well, wait.

1013
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 4: A minute, wait, let's hear about this uncle. So they

1014
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 4: pulled up my instagram. It was about five or six

1015
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 4: of them. His wife coached for me as well as

1016
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 4: her friends. Because I hadn't met all of them before.

1017
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 3: They're like, no, no, no, no, no, you want.

1018
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 4: To meet this uncle, right, So, you know, they were

1019
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 4: having a whole voting committee just going through.

1020
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 3: My instagram looking at it. Saw that I traveled, looked

1021
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 3: it up.

1022
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 2: I mean, Tina.

1023
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 4: Knowles was there, Justina was there. So I mean there

1024
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 4: was some some some good people there, you know, and

1025
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 4: they're looking at my Instagram. They all voted yes, and

1026
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 4: so it was kind of like, yeah, let's let's go

1027
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 4: ahead and connect.

1028
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 3: So my nephew put it, put.

1029
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 4: Us on a three way text message, and we started talking,

1030
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 4: uh that way, and then I took it over from there.

1031
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 4: It was we still got the text message and we

1032
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 4: have it's called a text versary.

1033
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 3: You know my lady. You know, I forgot about my

1034
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 3: lady and she's like, hey, this is the second anniversary

1035
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 3: of when we first met.

1036
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: You know kind of thing.

1037
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 4: So the three of us on a text message, Shane,

1038
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 4: and so you have a text verse, Rey.

1039
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:03,959
Speaker 2: That's cool.

1040
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: Our conversation about Bose is just getting started. Stay tuned

1041
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: to part two of Chilly's interview on the ED