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Speaker 1: And welcome in La Kick is Live.

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Speaker 2: It is Thursday night, May thirteenth, a little bit later

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Speaker 2: than usual. I'll touch on that in just a second,

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Speaker 2: but it is the yearhold Over twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: We got a jam packed show.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was going to be a real shame

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Speaker 2: if we couldn't do the show tonight because it's jam packed.

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Speaker 2: I have not seen a more herculean effort to get

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Speaker 2: something off the ground since Tom Hanks basically created Fire

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Speaker 2: on that beach out in the Pacific and Castaway. Director

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Speaker 2: of Meredith Colin's been laying on the floor in the

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Speaker 2: studio in the control room for about thirty minutes on

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Speaker 2: hooking wires. Our girl, Meredith's been on the phone. Jesse

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Speaker 2: and Crue have been in Connecticut trying to make things happen.

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Speaker 2: And the net result of that, as I just sat

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Speaker 2: there and watched the whole time, is we have a

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Speaker 2: show right here live for you. So thank you for

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Speaker 2: your patience. If you're listening to the replay, ignore everything

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Speaker 2: I just said. It means nothing to you, but we

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Speaker 2: got a loaded show tonight. Hey, week one, I know

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Speaker 2: that right now. It's what did I say about fifteen

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Speaker 2: seconds ago? It's May thirteenth, and I know that it's

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Speaker 2: a little ways away, but since we don't believe in

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Speaker 2: the offseason around here, Week one I.

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Speaker 1: Was looking at that yesterday. It is loaded.

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Speaker 2: I know there's not a lot of number one versus

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Speaker 1: There are a couple of those, but.

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Speaker 2: Man, like, we're not a believer around here that everything

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Speaker 2: just revolves around the playoff. There're gonna be some playoff

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Speaker 2: implications in Week one, but there're just gonna be some

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Speaker 2: huge games in Week one for several different reasons.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna touch on that tonight.

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Speaker 2: Also, Tennessee fans are angry, which is not in and

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Speaker 2: of itself a revolutionary new headline or anything like that,

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Speaker 2: but I think they have a little bit of reason

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Speaker 2: to be and I'll give you the latest reason why.

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Speaker 2: And so we're gonna dive down that rabbit hole. Maybe

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Speaker 2: it is, maybe it isn't. The Big Twelve. I want

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Speaker 2: to ask you something. A lot of talk about the

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Speaker 2: Pac twelve today. They got themselves a new commissioner, But

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Speaker 2: what about the Big twelve?

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Speaker 1: What is it?

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Speaker 2: What's Big twelve football? I don't think the answer is

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Speaker 2: what you think it is. I think things may be

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Speaker 2: why I believe that. Also, I tweeted this out the

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Speaker 2: other day. I got a lot of feedback on it.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go a little bit further down on

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Speaker 2: the road tonight of if you elect me college Football Commissioner,

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Speaker 2: and that would require you to be able to vote

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Speaker 2: on it. But if in this hypothetical world I was,

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Speaker 2: I got a new way. We need to do this calendar,

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Speaker 2: and the college football calendar, much like our show, could

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Speaker 2: just be year round. You don't have to have these

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Speaker 2: chunks of thirty and sixty days and ninety days within activity.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna put that all out there tonight. Remember

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Speaker 2: follow that Instagram account and follow that Twitter account. At

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Speaker 2: late kick, Josh, I decided I want to be at

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Speaker 2: ten thousand by the time we open fall camp. I

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Speaker 2: want that Instagram account to be at ten thousand. Now,

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Speaker 2: if you want to do it by the end of

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Speaker 2: the week, that's fine too. But I just started on there.

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Speaker 2: We're putting some stuff on there. What you see on

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Speaker 1: Believe you me.

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Speaker 2: So let's get this thing started tonight, because man, we've

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Speaker 2: got a pretty good show for you. I think Week

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Speaker 2: one in college football in twenty twenty one is jam packed.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty one is going to be an incredible season.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna do more on this down the road.

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a renaissance season in

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Speaker 2: college football. I got several reasons why I believe that,

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Speaker 2: So let's table that thought just bookmarket. But what you'll

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Speaker 2: you guys really didn't get to have a whole lot

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Speaker 2: of last year. When people ask you what do you

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Speaker 2: always emphasize the urgency because every single week matters. You

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Speaker 1: But also, you love the environments, and you just didn't

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Speaker 2: And now we see state after state after state giving

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be in week one. Week one is really loaded.

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Speaker 2: Our philosophy all the while around here is tea. This

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Speaker 2: not a show. Late kick has never been, nor will

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Speaker 2: to the side, doesn't matter. We don't do that around here.

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Speaker 2: We don't do the projected playoff rankings after week one.

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Speaker 2: We just don't bother with that foolishness. If you're into that,

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Speaker 2: plan around the postseason. It is regular season. That's what

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Speaker 2: be great. But man, Jesse's been making this graphic all day.

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Speaker 1: So you build up your.

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Speaker 2: Entire offseason preview, magazine, season comes, media days, fall camp.

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Speaker 2: But then that Week one comes. Remember Iowa State, we

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Speaker 1: How about that Indiana at Iowa game.

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Speaker 2: Week one slate. You mark my words. It's gonna be

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Speaker 2: But this game right here, this is the one that

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Speaker 1: Well, one of these teams is gonna be a prime candidate.

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Speaker 2: You may expect Indiana this year, maybe you don't, but

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Speaker 1: You've also got a bigger.

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Speaker 2: But when you're done with all that, you go in

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Speaker 2: used to be. But there are some aspects of this

436
00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,040
Speaker 2: sport I wish I.

437
00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,160
Speaker 1: Could hit the rewind button on about fifteen or twenty years.

438
00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,480
Speaker 2: And one of them is the way that this rivalry,

439
00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,320
Speaker 2: the particular what we're talking about here, this Tennessee Bama rivalry,

440
00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,720
Speaker 2: the way it feels because they don't feel now the

441
00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,320
Speaker 2: way it used to feel, and based on where I

442
00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,760
Speaker 2: was raised, it doesn't feel the way that it should feel.

443
00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,919
Speaker 1: I'm a believer. Competitive hatred is fine.

444
00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,520
Speaker 2: I mean nothing wrong with competitive hatred as long as

445
00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,080
Speaker 2: you don't go full Harvey updyke and start poisoning trees.

446
00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,440
Speaker 2: That's that five or ten steps too far I'm talking about.

447
00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,879
Speaker 2: We're not going updyke mode, Okay, So put the squash

448
00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,159
Speaker 2: on updyke protocol. Find wherever that button is and just

449
00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,679
Speaker 2: dewire it. We don't want that. But it's okay to

450
00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,879
Speaker 2: hate your rivaling in competitive sense, not hating the people,

451
00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 2: hating the rival in a competitive sense. And some older

452
00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,720
Speaker 2: Tennessee fans feel that some of the younger Tennessee fans

453
00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,040
Speaker 2: don't even know. You don't even know to hate Alabama competitively,

454
00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,720
Speaker 2: of course, so you don't have to go into updyke

455
00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,640
Speaker 2: Mode's what I'm telling you. But it should get under

456
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,159
Speaker 2: your skin, to put a finer point on it, that

457
00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,480
Speaker 2: your players from Knoxville look in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, and not

458
00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 2: only do they get attracted by what's down there, they

459
00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 2: go down there and there's really no hang up, just

460
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,199
Speaker 2: kind of oh well, very little resistance. In fact, a

461
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,840
Speaker 2: lot of people, it feels like you got a tailwind.

462
00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,080
Speaker 2: They're kind of pushing you down there. Did everything, like

463
00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,639
Speaker 2: I said, but pack your bags. And there seems to

464
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,160
Speaker 2: be a misinterpretation of the source of anger here Tennessee fans.

465
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 2: Most of them aren't angry at the individual. They're not

466
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,720
Speaker 2: angry henry to of too. Maybe some are, but I

467
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 2: think the real anger is steeped in the fact that

468
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 2: this whole thing's going down, and they're so little pushedback.

469
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,159
Speaker 1: There's so little anger or resentment towards it.

470
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 2: And the problem is, if you're a true freshman right now,

471
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,199
Speaker 2: you could barely walk or talk the last time Tennessee

472
00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,919
Speaker 2: beat Alabama. And what that's done is it's warped the perspective.

473
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 2: This used to be a hillatious rivalry. It used to

474
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,359
Speaker 2: be one of, if not the very biggest rivalries. The

475
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 2: third Saturday in October in the SEC If you're of

476
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,640
Speaker 2: a certain age when you grew up, that was it.

477
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,480
Speaker 2: It wasn't the Iron Bowl, it wasn't Tennessee Florida. It

478
00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 2: was Tennessee Alabama. A lot of good literature out there

479
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:31,920
Speaker 2: on it. But the problem is, if you're seventeen, you

480
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,239
Speaker 2: probably hadn't read it and you're not living it. And

481
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 2: so you got some kids up at Tennessee that look

482
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 2: at it and say, well, he transferred to Alabama. So

483
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 2: what I mean, how's that any different than transferring to

484
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Speaker 2: Georgia or Auburn.

485
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Speaker 1: It's a big difference.

486
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Speaker 2: The problem that a lot of Tennessee fans have, and

487
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 2: the reason they're so up in arms and aggravated about

488
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,360
Speaker 2: this is because everyone's not echoing the same cinement they

489
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 2: are when they're looking around and saying, it's not that

490
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,119
Speaker 2: he transferred, it's not that there are well wishers, it's

491
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 2: that it's Alabama. That's what we're angry about. Why in

492
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,199
Speaker 2: the world aren't the rest of you feeling like this.

493
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,919
Speaker 2: That's what's got a lot of Tennessee fans aggravated. And

494
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 2: for my money, I don't have a single problem with it.

495
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 2: As long as you don't go harassment mode, as long

496
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,239
Speaker 2: as you don't really really go too far, as long

497
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 2: as you don't start hitting the kid up on Twitter,

498
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:14,959
Speaker 2: I don't care if you're angry about that. I mean

499
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 2: if you're sitting in Franklin or Johnson City or Knoxville

500
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 2: or Memphis, wherever you are tonight, and you're looking at

501
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 2: this saying, dude, this is really rubbing me the wrong way.

502
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Speaker 1: Well, you know what. You write your check every year,

503
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:26,159
Speaker 1: don't you.

504
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 2: You pay for your season tickets every year, you buy

505
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,879
Speaker 2: the merchandise, you invest, you send your donor checks.

506
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 1: You're invested. When you're invested, you care.

507
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 2: You got financial attachment, but you also have emotional attachment.

508
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 1: To the program. You got every right to be angry

509
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Speaker 1: about it.

510
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 2: And if anyone looks at you and says, oh, I

511
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 2: shouldn't feel that way, that's.

512
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Speaker 1: Fine to each his and her own. But man, that

513
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 1: there's a term. I'm gonna use. The acronym.

514
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 2: Tennessee fans will know what I'm talking about. There's an

515
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 2: acronym that floats around Vall Nation. It's called BVS. For

516
00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 2: those of you who are Tennessee fans, you know what

517
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 2: it's doing for. I want to walk a thin line

518
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 2: here now I'm going to tell you what the acronym

519
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 2: stands for, but let me just safely say it is

520
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 2: metaphorically symbolic of the kind of person that has been

521
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 2: beaten down so long they just curl up in the

522
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 2: fetal position.

523
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: And they just take it, and that exists. It's real.

524
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 2: It can creep into a fan base, and when it does,

525
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 2: it takes a long time. It's kind of like they

526
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 2: train elephants in the circus. I learned about this one time,

527
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 2: Director Meritis Colin. I don't think we've talked about this.

528
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 2: Not much circus talk around here. I always wondered, when

529
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 2: I saw those circus elephants, how are they so well behaved?

530
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: Well?

531
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Speaker 2: What they do is they just tie those elephants up

532
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 2: in the formative years of their lives to the point

533
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,439
Speaker 2: where they get trained, their sort of institutional lives to

534
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 2: live in that little radius that they're allowed to go

535
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 2: based on how long the rope is. And the thing

536
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 2: about it is, you can cut that rope once that

537
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 2: elephant is a certain age and it won't run away

538
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 2: then go anywhere because it has been trained. It's ingrained

539
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 2: in his mind, in her mind, Oh, I can't go

540
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,479
Speaker 2: any further than there. And that's kind of what that

541
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 2: BVS does to a lot of you. You look at

542
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 2: Alabama and you just assume it's supposed to be that way.

543
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: You look at Henry Toatoa walking out of Tusco or

544
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: walking out of Knoxville on the way to tuscal Lucy,

545
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 2: you assume, well, yeah, who wouldn't you know, who wouldn't Well,

546
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 2: don't let General Nielan hear you saying that, and in

547
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: the better years, don't let Phil Filmer hear you saying that.

548
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 2: For that matter, I really hope this changes, because you

549
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 2: want to talk about the health of a sport. I

550
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 2: don't think it's good for I don't think it's good

551
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: for one side of the best rivalry or one of

552
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 2: the best rivalries in the history of the SEC to

553
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 2: be running.

554
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: Off at this point.

555
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 2: What is it about a decade and a half it's

556
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: winning streak. Saban didn't even lose to Tennessee in the

557
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 2: year they lost to Louisiana Monroe. It's got a change.

558
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 2: It's got to change, Josh Hipel, It's on you, brother,

559
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 2: That's all you have to do. You have to reverse

560
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 2: a trend against the greatest superpower the sport has ever seen.

561
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 2: Other than that, things should be pretty easy for you

562
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 2: there in Knoxville, Colin, I got worked up for you, man.

563
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 2: What is Big twelve football to you? What does it mean?

564
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 2: Does it mean the same thing today as it meant

565
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 2: fifteen years ago? I would argue, No, I think the

566
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: answer is changing to that question. Bookmark that point. And

567
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 2: I want to emphasize something that we talked about originally,

568
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 2: I think a couple to three months ago, and when

569
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 2: I said it's a really big inflection point for the

570
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 2: Big twelve.

571
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: It's an important time.

572
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 2: And I think this applies more broadly than just Big

573
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 2: twelve fans. What I'm about to say probably impacts you

574
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 2: if you're a fan of a team in the ACC,

575
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: all the power conferences, really and I want you to

576
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 2: listen to the context and you'll see what I mean.

577
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 2: Coaches know it. Coaches know what's happening in the Big

578
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 2: twelve right now. I think maybe the public perception is

579
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: going to be slow to come around, But man, I

580
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 2: was really glad I heard what I heard this week,

581
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 2: and I'll mention it in just second, because there was

582
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: a coach in the Big twelve that so perfectly encapsulated

583
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: what's actually happening out here. What used to be Big

584
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 2: twelve football is now college football. You think about that sentence,

585
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: what used to be Big twelve football is a fireworks show,

586
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 2: right You fast forward ten years and the unthinkable has happened.

587
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 2: You've got the University of Alabama winning a title that's

588
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: not unheard of.

589
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: What's unheard of.

590
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 2: Is in the process of doing it, they got a

591
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 2: quarterback and a wide receiver fighting over the Heisman Trophy.

592
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: Who in the world would have ever seen that coming

593
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 2: a decade ago. I mean, think about the Big twelve

594
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 2: had a unique brand of football. Now that's everywhere. Big

595
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 2: twelve football, what it used to be, that's now college football.

596
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 2: So the question becomes, what's the next move for the

597
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 2: Big twelve to stay ahead of the proverbial curve there.

598
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: They don't have the advantage of having a ton of

599
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 2: four and five star talent in their backyard in Manhattan, Kansas,

600
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 2: and in Stillwater, Oklahoma. You know, even some of the

601
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: schools like TCU and Baylor in Texas, they don't get

602
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 2: their choice of the top crop of talent in the

603
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: state of Texas. But that forced them to innovate, and

604
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 2: it forced them to adapt. They started doing it well

605
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: quite a while ago, and you know, as shocking as

606
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: it may sound, it took a lot of the sport

607
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 2: a little while to realize the way they do it

608
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 2: would work here because there was a long time where

609
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 2: people thought otherwise. So Chris Hummer, one of our really

610
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: good national guys, got Dave Randa, the head coach at Baylor,

611
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: former LSU defensive coordinator, got him for a good interview.

612
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 2: Trey Scott's I don't know, he's on some island, probably

613
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: out of the country. Just got married, so congratulations trade.

614
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 2: But he hosted the College Football Daily podcast. Hummer filled

615
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: in form one day this week and he had Dave

616
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 2: Randa on and they had a wide ranging interview, but

617
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 2: I thought one of the best answers Dave Randa gave

618
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: was in response to a question about what big twelve

619
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 2: football is, and Hummer just kind of tossed it up

620
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: to him. Here's the softball, you take it wherever you

621
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 2: want to go. What is big twelve football now? And man,

622
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: Dave Randa so perfectly encapsulated and in a lot of ways,

623
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: I thought validated a segment that we did a couple

624
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: of months ago. Here are some of the ways that

625
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 2: Dave Randa described what he thinks big twelve football is now.

626
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: Majority twelve personnel, one running back, two tight ends, two

627
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: wide receivers. He specifically made a point to emphasize that

628
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: Leopold coming from Buffalo to Kansas will only further that development.

629
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: Wide zone League, max Protection League, two and three man

630
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 2: route concepts.

631
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: Are the norm.

632
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 2: There now a whole explanation also in that podcast about

633
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: how multiple defenses have to be and how innovative they

634
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: have to be to be able to stop the run

635
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: out there with a lot of guys that aren't six four,

636
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty pounds coming out of high school

637
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: as defensive tackles, they got to get really creative. They

638
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: don't get the lean on a lot of developed athletes.

639
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: They got to do the developing.

640
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: In some cases, you got a kid that goes to LSU,

641
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: they just grow them down there like that. Okay, they

642
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: don't grow them like that in Lawrence, Kansas. It just

643
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 2: doesn't work that way. But they find a way to

644
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 2: get it done. They just have to innovate a lot more.

645
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: But here's the most interesting question to me. Okay, so

646
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 2: now that the rest of college football looks a lot

647
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: like the Big Twelve did a.

648
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: Decade decade and a half ago.

649
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: Well, now the Big twelve starts to look a little

650
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: bit more. There are differences here, but from a fifty

651
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 2: thousand point of view, they look a whole lot like

652
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: maybe schools did before they adjusted and looked like the

653
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 2: Big twelve.

654
00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: That's a lot of words salad.

655
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 2: But so I'm asking you now, is this, Once upon

656
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 2: a time, schools in the SEC looked at the Big

657
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: twelve and they laughed at him.

658
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: They called it basketball on grass.

659
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: They said that stuff works out there, it would never

660
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: fly down here because of hashtag SEC defense. And then

661
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 2: everyone in the SEC started doing what folks in the

662
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: Big twelve used to do. But during that time, whether

663
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: it be Mike Leech at Texas Tech or whoever ever,

664
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 2: a lot of Mike Gundhy at Oklahoma State when they

665
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: started a light up the Big twelve schools down here

666
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: would have job openings and they'd look out there and

667
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: they'd look right over the Big twelve because there was

668
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 2: a perception, right or wrong, I think history has judged it.

669
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: But right or wrong, they'd look and say that style

670
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: wouldn't work done here. So even though the stats look

671
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: good and the record looks good, we're not going there.

672
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a no note.

673
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: So if you want to look west, that's fine, look

674
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 2: all the way out to the west coast. Maybe they

675
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: got someone out there that we could go and get

676
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: and be viable. Remember when we did it with Urban

677
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: Meyer for example, got him in Utah, he came down here,

678
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: he was good, but people thought, oh, big twelve coaches

679
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: wouldn't work.

680
00:28:59,320 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: Well.

681
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: That insulated some of those guys, so they stayed out

682
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: there a little bit longer than you typically would if

683
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: you were having that kind of parallel success at another

684
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: program doing it a different way. Well, now I wonder this.

685
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: I was talking to Hummer about this right before we

686
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: started the show. I almost wonder if now you could

687
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: have the same kind of insulation in the Big Twelve,

688
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: But for the totally inverse reason. Now everyone wants to

689
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: be wide open. I mean, look, if you were to

690
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: have a job opening at LSU today, what kind of

691
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: offense would you be looking to run. If you had

692
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: a job opening at Florida, what kind offense would you

693
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: be looking to run? If you were to get a

694
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: head coach in there and have his introductory press conference?

695
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: In other words, do you want to be here?

696
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 2: Are you looking for head coach to come in and

697
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: talk about how much max protect they're going to be running,

698
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: how much twelve personnel they're going to be running. That

699
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: doesn't sound like the press conference is down here these days.

700
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: Everyone's wide open, everyone's spreading it out, everyone's putting athletes

701
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: in space. And so I almost wonder if these coaches

702
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: are having success out there, I almost wonder if you

703
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: get looked over again, But for the total inverse reason,

704
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: and it's to the net benefit of the Big twelve,

705
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: because you get to incubate some coaches out there, and

706
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: you don't constantly have to worry about them.

707
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: Getting plucked.

708
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: I know that that's going to be very much a

709
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: case by case situation. But I'm just kind of interesting

710
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: because I don't know the answer to that. It could

711
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: be a total moot point or it could be valid,

712
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: and in two years you're looking around saying, wow, I

713
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: tripped up and got a point right there. So keep

714
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: an eye on that. But the Big Twelve, man is changing.

715
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: Times are changing in the Big Twelve. David Ran is

716
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: right about that. He must have watched the show.

717
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I asked the.

718
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: Other day, not rhetorically, because I put an idea out there.

719
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: I asked, what do you think the perfect college football

720
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 2: calendar is? I'd love to be the commissioner of college football.

721
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: I take the job.

722
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: I think I could do it maybe after hours and

723
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: still keep Late Kick on air here. But I said

724
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: on Twitter the other day at Late Kick Josh, one

725
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: of my first acts if I were college football commissioner

726
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: is I would well, I try and do a buyback

727
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: program for all the TV contracts, and I'd buy them

728
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: all back so that I could just completely restructure the

729
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: way TV deals work. But that's going to be tough,

730
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: I'll admit, could be one day could be two days

731
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: before I get that done, but in the meantime, I

732
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: want to completely revolutionize college football calendar. You know, one

733
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: of the things that rubs us the wrong way only

734
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 2: kick is when college football fans, usually in an argument

735
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: about expanding the playoff, talk about how the NFL does it, Well,

736
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: the NFL does it like this, and why don't we

737
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: do it like this. We'll cause college football is not

738
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: pro sports. That's why period. That's normally where that should end.

739
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: But then you got to get into the context. But

740
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: my point is I really can't stand ninety eight percent

741
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: of the time when someone says college football needs to

742
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 2: do it the way the NFL does. But there is

743
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: one or two areas, and this one in particular, where

744
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: I think the NFL gets it right. The NFL understood

745
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: a while back that they did not have to compartmentalize themselves.

746
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: They didn't have to acknowledge NBA season or baseball season.

747
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 2: They were the behemoth. Okay, they're the five hundred pound guerrilla.

748
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: Everyone else has to get out of their way. They're

749
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: the freight train. And so the NFL figured, just like

750
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: we do with this show. Our philosophy is we have

751
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: no off season. The NFL doesn't have to have an

752
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: off season. They can just go year round. They can

753
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: expand their calendar and go year round. You don't play

754
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: a game every week, but that doesn't matter because fans

755
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: are interested in the sport, not just the games that

756
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: are played, but everything that revolves around it. So you

757
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: are not a planet. You are your own solar system.

758
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: So whether it be the draft or the season, or

759
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: mini caps or free agency, everything is revolving around that

760
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: death star or the sun. I guess in this case

761
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: that says NFL that shield. Well, in college football, I

762
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: could do the same. So I told Jesse, Jesse, crank

763
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: up the graphics machine because I want to put together

764
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: our perfect calendar. Keep in mind, I have been elected

765
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: college Football Commissioner. I have no staff, so it's just

766
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: going to be me. I sit in a room, I

767
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: have sandwiches brought to me, and in the meantime I

768
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: work on things like this. I want to change the

769
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: calendar to where we have events year round. Here is how,

770
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: in an ideal world, let me print out my trusty graphic.

771
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: Here in an ideal world, here's how this goes. Let's

772
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 2: start in January. You know we got the playoffs there,

773
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: and we got the national championship game.

774
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: January is a really good month.

775
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: Of course, you have recruiting extending into February, and then

776
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: you got the second signing period you may call it

777
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: the late signing period now at the beginning of February.

778
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: But also here's the first event that I'm going to add.

779
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: You know, I've been a longtime advocate for allowing schools

780
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: to schedule other schools for their spring games. If you

781
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: want to, you don't have to, but if you want

782
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: to instead of playing an FCS team in the fall,

783
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: you can schedule them. We'll get your TV partner, you

784
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: can pay them their seven hundred thousand dollars, they can

785
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: come in. You can have an actual game that fans

786
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: would be infinitely more excited to watch than just a

787
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: good on good scrimmage. And I'm going to announce who's

788
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: playing who or hoops just playing hoops during February right

789
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: before March. When we get to March, I got an

790
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: even bigger announcement for you. I am going to totally

791
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: do away with the practice of announcing schedules seventeen years

792
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: in advance, or seven years in advance, or even seven

793
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: months in advance. I'm going to know your schedule, but

794
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: the rest of you are not. Okay, So here's what

795
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: we're gonna do. I'm going to announce your conference opponents

796
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 2: and the dates right before your league opens spring practice,

797
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 2: and all of you in any given league are opening

798
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 2: spring at the same time. So in the ACC, Clemson

799
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 2: Tiger fan, you're gonna find out which conference opponents you're

800
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 2: playing and when you're gonna play them, and then you

801
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: go into spring practice. Take your time, go through spring,

802
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,479
Speaker 2: keep up with the players, keep up with the first

803
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 2: and second scrimmage like you normally would. Then maybe you're

804
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: about to play Citadel, whoever it may be, in the

805
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: spring game, and then you wrap up spring.

806
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: Okay.

807
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 2: Then if you're a Mississippi State fan, after you play

808
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: the spring game, then you come out and guess what

809
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: I'm doing the next week, right before you go into

810
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: off season mode, I am announcing you're out of conference.

811
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: This is where it really gets good. We're not scheduling

812
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 2: teams ten years in advance anymore. We're going to announce

813
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 2: your conference opponents, and we're going to do it with

814
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: league and TV partnerships, and I'm taking it somewhat out

815
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 2: of your hands. I'm sure I'll get no pushback on

816
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 2: this from the league. I am announcing you're out of

817
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: conference opponents after spring.

818
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 1: You're not going to know your.

819
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 2: Whole schedule until after spring practice. Now the pushback will be, oh,

820
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: you can't do it that way. Why because it's never

821
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: been done that way. Coaches are the ones who are

822
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: going to have the main pushback, And the coach is

823
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: going to have to pushback because they like to practice

824
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: during spring on early installs for teams.

825
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: Tough is all I can tell you.

826
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: Okay, we had Brigham Young and Coastal Carolina schedule a

827
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: game in a week last year and it worked out. Okay,

828
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: So I'm not going to listen to you with that

829
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: army of all field analysts you have. Tell me it's

830
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm looking at this April. We would only

831
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: have May, June, July, and August to get ready for

832
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: that out of conference game in week one.

833
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I'm not listening to that.

834
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 2: Anyone who can't get ready for a football game in

835
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: four months doesn't belong in the category making the kind

836
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 2: of salaries that you guys are, So don't give me

837
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 2: the pushback on that, but it even gets better.

838
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: So then we go into May and June. That's where

839
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: we are right now. Now.

840
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: The transfer portal right now is kind of a year round.

841
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: I want to put not a closure on it whatsoever,

842
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna put a moratorium on it during spring,

843
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: and then it opens back up and we have the

844
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 2: second wave season, as I like to call it, May

845
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: market that maybe like a water.

846
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:16,959
Speaker 1: Park or something.

847
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, but we'll have transfer portal openings and

848
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: its recruiting season right now, so May and June, and

849
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: this is kind of naturally happening.

850
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: It's organic.

851
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: I don't have to do it. That takes care of

852
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 2: May and June. Now, if you're looking for a down period,

853
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: this will be it.

854
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: Now.

855
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: I'm open to suggestions if you guys want to put

856
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: another event here.

857
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, we're looking ahead to Media Day.

858
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 2: Media Day is in July, and those would be various

859
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: weeks for various conferences, and then guess what happens in August.

860
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: Camp's open. Does it really feel like you just had

861
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 2: an off season? No, because you didn't. We're doing away

862
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 2: with it. Hey, we've already done away with it on

863
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: late kick. It's working fine. We had incredible viewership the

864
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 2: other night because you guys have fully bought into that

865
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: philosophy that it doesn't exist, and so you're watching the

866
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: shows like you would during the season.

867
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: So thank you for that.

868
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: But then we go into September, October, November, December, normal

869
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 2: football season. December, of course, you have conference title games,

870
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 2: then you have the playoff selection process, then you have

871
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: the early signing date, and then you have bowl season.

872
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: That should be the college football schedule. That's my entire calendar.

873
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: That's the way we're going to do it, not if,

874
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: but dare I say, when I ride a wave of

875
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: you guys momentum and support to conference commissioner and really

876
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: college football commissioner status, I would really like feedback on

877
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: that though, because here's what it looks like, and I

878
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: want to know is there anything you take away or

879
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 2: And this is maybe what I'm more interested in, because

880
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: I'm kind of set on the schedule, guys, but I

881
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: do want to know, are there any other events what

882
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,479
Speaker 2: should be public, what should exist that doesn't exist right now?

883
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: Do you think there's a flaw in not releasing a

884
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 2: team schedule until right around their spring practice for that year.

885
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: I think it can be done, and I think it

886
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 2: would be very exciting. I mean, think about what kind

887
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: of event that is. I really undersold that if you're

888
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: a I mean, if you're a Tennessee football fan, or

889
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: if you're a let's say a North Carolina football fan

890
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 2: USC fan, you imagine. I wonder if we're going to

891
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: play Oregon this year. I wonder who we're going to

892
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: have out of conference. It could be UNLV in week one,

893
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: it could be Alabama in week one.

894
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, do you know. I hadn't heard anything either.

895
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: Well, my cousin works on the scheduling department, but they

896
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: had made the graphic shet it'd be a really, really

897
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: fun event. So that's my perfect calendar there. I am

898
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: open to suggestions. I always want to put it out there,

899
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: open to suggestions.

900
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: All Right.

901
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: I wanted to close, Well we're not closing because I

902
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: got one more point to make.

903
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: It's very important.

904
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: We added it like an hour or less before the

905
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 2: show started. It was a huge day in the state

906
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: of Arkansas. It's a huge day for the University of Arkansas.

907
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: It wasn't huge because they unveiled their new name, image

908
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 2: and likeness plan and it's a good one. And it

909
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: was a good day for that, But not just because

910
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: of that. It wasn't a big day because they changed

911
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: the futures of many student athletes lives. It wasn't just

912
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: a big day because of that. They changed the future

913
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: of their program too, for that matter. It wasn't a

914
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: big day just because of that. No, Arkansas had the

915
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 2: good sense to, like many a program before them, put

916
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: our show in the hype video release for this new venture.

917
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: Let's take a look and then I'll talk on the

918
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: other side. Yeah, those numbers matter more than ever name, image,

919
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 2: and likeness.

920
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 3: You need to view this as an opportunity.

921
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: We are the Flag Shift University of the state.

922
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: This is the Flag Shift program for our student athlete.

923
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 2: Hat tip University of Arkansas official Friends of the program. Now,

924
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: I don't know how much planner I can put it.

925
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: We do play favorites around here. Most people do. They

926
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: lie about it. We don't cover it up, we don't

927
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: hide it. We play favorites. South Carolina put us in

928
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 2: their video, played us in the stadium during the spring

929
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 2: game a couple of weeks ago.

930
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: Friends of the program, Woo Pick.

931
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 2: They put us in their promotional video for Name Image

932
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: and Likeness release Friend.

933
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 1: Of the Program, just like that.

934
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: Don't let him be the last, don't cause they're gonna

935
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 2: be a cut off at some point. At some point,

936
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: the room's gonna get full. But it's not full yet.

937
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: There is room for not all, but there are room

938
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 2: for more. So we play favorites here. Yes, But did

939
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: you notice something in that video there that Jesse just

940
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 2: played good old fashioned sot in the industry. He played

941
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 2: that video and yet it was great that we were

942
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 2: in there. But on a much more serious note, I've

943
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: mentioned Arkansas when I've hypothetically talked about name, Image and likeness.

944
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 2: You guys have heard me do this before. There are

945
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 2: a few schools that I throw out there if I'm

946
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: just using random examples. But you've probably noticed several of

947
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: you Arkansas fans have I always throw Arkansas in there.

948
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 2: It's not by accident. I've been in communication with him

949
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: for a while about this. Some people in the know

950
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: behind the scenes there about what their plans are for

951
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: Name Image Enlightening. You see, everyone's got their angle on this,

952
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 2: and everyone's hurrying to get their approach out public and

953
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: their hype video and their plan, and let's get it

954
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: out there so that people can talk about it like

955
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: we're doing right now. You get us to talk about

956
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: it by putting us in your hype video plain as day.

957
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 2: But people are gonna have different approaches and people are

958
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: going to emphasize different things. When I've been talking about Arkansas,

959
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 2: it's because I thought they had an approach that was

960
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 2: going to be fairly unique undo anyone else. And sure enough,

961
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: we saw their release today. You can see it in

962
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: its entirety on the school's website. But we saw their

963
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: release and there was something in that little thirty second

964
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: clip that Jesse just played that wasn't the whole video,

965
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: but that thirty second clip. They were the names JB. Hunt, Tyson, Walmart, Pepsi.

966
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: You guys have probably heard of a few of those companies, Walmart,

967
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: they probably have one or two in your state. That's

968
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: the first that you've seen of that, isn't it. You've

969
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 2: seen a lot of these releases. That's the first you've

970
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: seen of dua direct inclusion of major brands so far.

971
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: The approach from many programs that I also think have

972
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: done a good job is focused on the brand building

973
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 2: itself and using various platforms. Arkansas is using some of

974
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: these two to focus on building your brand, but thus

975
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 2: far that direct attribution in videos of saying, Hey, Walmart Tyson, JB.

976
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: Hunt Trucking Company for those unfamiliar, hopped many of their

977
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: intermodal containers in the past.

978
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: We've got them on board. You know. That's why I

979
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: kept mentioning Arkansas.

980
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: See, a lot of people thought I was crazy because

981
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: a lot of people think that it's all about the

982
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: current Tier one programs. The current big boys are just

983
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: going to further distance themselves.

984
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: Ohio State's going.

985
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: To be great with this. Yeah, Bama's going to be

986
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: great with it. Yeah, they absolutely are. They're going to

987
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: be great with anything because they're great at adapting and

988
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,479
Speaker 2: adjusting to the current climate. But I've told you about

989
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: nil and I will continue to tell you this is

990
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: the start of the example that I have looked forward

991
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 2: to with Arkansas. Arkansas is one of potentially a few

992
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 2: programs that don't take down any Tier one teams. But

993
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 2: this is opening a door that's never been opened before

994
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: for access potentially for maybe one program or maybe seven

995
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 2: or eight new programs to ascend to Tier one or

996
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 2: Tier two status. Don't focus on their current setting, don't

997
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: focus on current results. If you've got culture figured out,

998
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: which they do at Arkansas, and if you've got future

999
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: and vision figured out, there is not a ceiling right

1000
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: now on how far you can go.

1001
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: A lot of you are having trouble with this.

1002
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: You can't picture Arkansas being a serious contender because you

1003
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: haven't seen them be a serious contender in your lifetime.

1004
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: That's because that was in the world that existed five

1005
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: years ago.

1006
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: We're looking at the world five years down the road.

1007
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: It's going to be radically different. And having some of

1008
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: those names on board and having the people that I

1009
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: know are at the helm of this particular venture with Arkansas.

1010
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: It's a statement. It's a statement in many ways.

1011
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: Actually, I want to read a very very brief portion

1012
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: of ironically the statement they put out today. Through their marketplace,

1013
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 2: no cap it's an acronym. It's one of the services

1014
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 2: they're using. Will also be able to connect Arkansas student

1015
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 2: athletes with businesses locally, regionally, nationwide, and globally to help

1016
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 2: maximize the student athletes potential partnerships.

1017
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: I'm being recruited by Arkansas.

1018
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: All I heard was you can help me partner with

1019
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 2: some of those brands that you just flashed right before

1020
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: my eyes. That's a lot of potential. It's a lot

1021
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: of potential. So think about the resources moving forward Arkansas

1022
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: and otherwise, think about the resources that certain programs have

1023
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 2: at their disposal. This could be a serious breath of

1024
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: life for programs like let's say Stanford on the West Coast,

1025
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: depending on how committed they are.

1026
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: Stanford has got half.

1027
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: A dozen of the biggest tech companies on planet Earth

1028
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 2: right in their backyard, and all those grads from Stanford

1029
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 2: work there. Who's to say that they don't get their

1030
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: teeth into that portion of this the way that Arkansas

1031
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 2: is doing with the resources they have in their backyard. Listen,

1032
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,479
Speaker 2: I know, at the end of the day, it's hard

1033
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: to connect all this. Don't worry about it. If you're

1034
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: an Arkansas fan, if you're in Fort Smith right now

1035
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: and you're listening to this, you don't have to know

1036
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: what all these acronyms mean.

1037
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: You're not running the program. It doesn't matter.

1038
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: What you have to know is today Arkansas took a

1039
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 2: giant step closer to being able to contend in major

1040
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 2: college football than they were yesterday. Given what the existence

1041
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 2: had been. This is what it will be, not so

1042
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 2: much what it has been. People's expectations are going to

1043
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: be built based on what it has been. Your expectations

1044
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 2: and future perception of reality needs to be built on

1045
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 2: what it could be, and what it could be at Arkansas,

1046
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 2: something really special. So that's what I wanted to close

1047
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: with tonight, really good show. Happy we were able to

1048
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: get it off the ground and running. Thank you so

1049
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 2: much for sticking around a Remember like the video it

1050
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: helps us greatly. Subscribing to the channel, the five star

1051
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: reviews in the podcast, all those things keep our show

1052
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 2: free for you, and so as long as we can

1053
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: do it, that's going to be ultimately determined by as

1054
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 2: long as you let us do it.

1055
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

1056
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 2: Remember at late Kick Josh, Instagram and Twitter for director

1057
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: Emeritith Collins, Jesse and the entire crew pulling off miracles

1058
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: all over the place tonight to get us on the air.

1059
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: I just sat here and talked. Thank you so much

1060
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: for sitting there and listening. Have a great rest of

1061
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: your week, and God bless