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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It's time for Bachelor headlines.

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Speaker 3: We are here breaking down everything relevant in Bachelor Nation.

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Speaker 3: The first one's a big announcement, one that we didn't

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Speaker 3: know would be coming, one that we honestly didn't expect

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Speaker 3: to happen at least this soon. But the Bachelor's in there,

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Speaker 3: kind of like second part of Golden Years, and well,

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Speaker 3: that throws me into the headline. They've announced that the

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Speaker 3: Golden Bachelorette will happen by the end of this year.

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Speaker 3: Ashley tell us everything.

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Speaker 4: It's happening in the fall. The leading lady will be

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Speaker 4: in her sixties or beyond. We don't know who it

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Speaker 4: is going to be.

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Speaker 2: Yes, isn't that what it's always been? Is that what

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Speaker 2: the show?

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Speaker 4: I guess what they're saying is that they're going to

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Speaker 4: continue with the theme of eighties and a sixties and older,

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Speaker 4: not eighties. That would be a whole different show, to

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Speaker 4: be honest, bring that one off.

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Speaker 2: I like them all, but it's always been sixties and older.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. The new cast will be announced at a later date.

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Speaker 4: This was one of their biggest successes as of late

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Speaker 4: the show, The Golden Bachelor, reached forty three point four

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Speaker 4: million total viewers after just thirty five days of it

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Speaker 4: on ABC and streaming platforms, and it ranks as the

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Speaker 4: number one new unscripted series this season amongst adults. So

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Speaker 4: of course they were going to do this again. We

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Speaker 4: were just waiting for the announcement, which Ben said, like,

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Speaker 4: we didn't know when it was going to be announced.

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Speaker 4: The unfortunate news that I do believe follows this is

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Speaker 4: that I don't think there will be a Bachelor in

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Speaker 4: Paradise this year. I think this is going to take

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Speaker 4: its place in the fall.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a fair assumption.

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Speaker 3: I think I think we've had enough rumors upon rumors

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Speaker 3: about what's going to happen to Paradise. And I do

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Speaker 3: agree with those that are experts that say it's never

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Speaker 3: a good idea to take a year off of a

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Speaker 3: show because we very rarely see it come back. So

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Speaker 3: I am concerned that maybe Paradise is uh is no longer.

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Speaker 4: Do they announce that, like, do they come out with

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Speaker 4: the announcement or they just like let it ghost out.

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Speaker 3: I feel like they're just gonna let the kind of

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Speaker 3: ghost out until it's the summertime and they go, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: by the way, it's not happening.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think at this point we can probably

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Speaker 3: assume it's not happening.

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Speaker 4: Which is this like really sad for me? Okay, it's

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Speaker 4: like really sad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sad. I mean it's sad for me too.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how they're going to get people to

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Speaker 3: keep coming on this show if there's not a Paradise.

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Speaker 4: It's so weird. Jade and I were talking about that.

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Speaker 4: Could you just imagine, like could you I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I can't imagine signing up for the show and then

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Speaker 4: knowing that like, once my time there is done, it

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Speaker 4: is done for me. It was maybe that's like signing

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Speaker 4: up for the show, you're like, Okay, that's fine, of course,

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Speaker 4: that's you know, the way it used to be. But

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Speaker 4: it's when you make all the friends in production and

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Speaker 4: you have this amazing experience and you just want to

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Speaker 4: do it all over again. I was so happy to

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Speaker 4: know that Paradise was going to be an option for

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Speaker 4: me to just like kind of hang out with everyone again.

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Speaker 4: I didn't care about the TV element as much as

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Speaker 4: I did like just this community that you build well.

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Speaker 3: And I think there is still that thing that we've

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Speaker 3: really enjoyed over the years. I mean, Sidney's a great

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Speaker 3: example of this is it's usually a place for a

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Speaker 3: redemption story. It's a different environment, it's more comfortable, it

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Speaker 3: is kind of more laid back, and we usually see

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Speaker 3: people who feel misunderstood or just don't feel like the

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Speaker 3: Bachelor works for them. They get themselves twisted up into

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Speaker 3: a bad experience. Paradise is that redemption story, and that's

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Speaker 3: something it's been enjoyable to see over the years, and

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Speaker 3: we will see that right now. So who knows if

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Speaker 3: it comes back, who knows if it's still airing this year.

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Speaker 3: We don't know, But it's with them filming Golden Bachelorette

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Speaker 3: in the fall, it feels harder and harder for them

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Speaker 3: to turn a Paradise as well.

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Speaker 4: So, Ben, who's it going to be? Is it going

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Speaker 4: to be one of the ladies from Gary season?

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Speaker 2: I hope?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 2: I hope, So, I hope.

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Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, there's so many of them, I choose

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Speaker 3: any of them, honestly, from the Sanders to the Kathy's,

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Speaker 3: the Susans, to the Jones to I mean all of them.

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, I.

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Speaker 3: Can't think of one of those women that we watched

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Speaker 3: incredible in this experience. Yeah, I agree, Yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 3: kind of my thought. Well, next headline is this. This

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Speaker 3: one got a lot of traction this week.

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Speaker 4: I don't find that it's all over my Instagram feed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, people really care still, And it feels like Caitlin

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Speaker 3: Bristow makes our headlines every week, and it's usually about

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Speaker 3: stuff that I don't really understand why she's making a

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Speaker 3: headline about it, And this is one of those. It

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Speaker 3: says Bachelor Nations Kaitlin Bristow thought she was asexual after

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Speaker 3: end of a relationship. This according to E News Ashley,

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Speaker 3: I've listened to the interview.

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Speaker 2: Huh.

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Speaker 3: I'm still confused on why it's such a big deal,

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Speaker 3: But maybe you can help me.

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Speaker 4: And sex always makes headlines, sex sells. They're getting good

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Speaker 4: clicks on this, I'm sure now. I think the only

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Speaker 4: problem problem is like I think we have Sean and

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Speaker 4: Jason out there being like it wasn't me.

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, at fair I'd buy that, dude.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, here's a thing though, she because she doesn't

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Speaker 4: say what relationship it was, is it.

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Speaker 2: Be a secret decade ago?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 3: And is it a secret that in relationships there's secrets

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Speaker 3: to keep the fire burning, meaning that five six, seven, ten, fifteen,

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Speaker 3: twenty forty years into relationship you have to work at

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Speaker 3: keeping things alive. That yeah, you know, when you first

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Speaker 3: then or five years from then. So for me, I'm like, oh, yes,

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's the way this is missing.

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Speaker 4: Let's say this. I feel like so many people out

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Speaker 4: that says it out loud. After you've been in a relationship,

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Speaker 3: Well, I just think her word asexual might have been

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Speaker 5: That's actually I mean, like okay, fine, that she said, Hey,

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Speaker 5: and as I've been longer in relationships, we'd all go yeah, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 4: But you know that's just like Caitlyn and like she

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Speaker 4: worded that the way that I would like word. It's

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Speaker 4: kind of just like you're chatting with your girlfriend. She's like,

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Speaker 3: Sure, I'm saying she did an'ything wrong here. I'm just

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Speaker 3: confused on why it was all over my Instagram this week,

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Speaker 3: Like why were people so shocked that.

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Speaker 4: It's because she said the word asexual and it's sex Okay.

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Speaker 4: After this relationship was like coming to an end. She

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Speaker 4: was fine with it. She also said that she felt

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Speaker 4: the urge to explore a romance with a man again

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Speaker 4: after going on a few dates. She was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: V And that made her realize that she wasn't a

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Speaker 4: desert down there. This was all in a podcast that

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Speaker 4: she did with Stoss Schredder.

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Speaker 3: Caitlin is very seasoned in media, right. She's been a

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Speaker 3: part of the show for a long time. She's been

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Speaker 3: a part of a lot of shows. She's a star

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Speaker 3: from the show. She knew, there's no question in my mind,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, She's not sitting there being like nobody's ever

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Speaker 3: going to talk about this. Yeah, so this feels like okay, great,

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Speaker 3: like totally good. Understand what she's saying. She's not saying

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Speaker 3: going to be a story, and look we're talking about

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Speaker 3: it now. Well, speaking of stories, another big one this

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Speaker 3: week in Bachelor Nation. It's from The Golden Bachelor, Kathy Schwartz,

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Speaker 3: friend of the podcast, been a part of this podcast

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Speaker 3: multiple times. No Hour is just what this in Monterey.

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Speaker 3: She dodges questions about askn Drama blameskin, Well, yeah, so.

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Speaker 4: That's their acronym for their friend group.

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Speaker 3: Sure, that's great. Blame's natural selection. This, according to US Weekly,

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Speaker 3: doesn't really feel like she dodged the question. It feels

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Speaker 4: She sure did so. Askin is the friend group that

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Speaker 4: she has with Nancy and Susan and April together. Their

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Speaker 4: their own little like friend click and something happened. There's

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Speaker 4: a falling out with April. So she said this. These

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Speaker 4: are the quotes. We were a group of fearless women

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Speaker 4: who took this on. And the fact remains, we're all women.

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Speaker 4: This is what she said on our podcast, by the way,

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Speaker 4: and she goes, as time goes on, you know people better,

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Speaker 4: and I think that it's just an natural part of life.

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Speaker 4: And I can honestly say that I'm friends with everyone

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Speaker 4: from the show. If there's someone particularly you're asking me

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Speaker 2: This is like from our show, I know this was

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Speaker 4: So wise, So can you explain this? Had she said

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Speaker 4: anything further from this?

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Speaker 3: No, Again, she's really good at media too. I tried

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Speaker 3: to get it out of her. But at the same time,

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Speaker 3: there is this, Uh, it wasn't a secret. I guess

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Speaker 3: to anybody there that there was drama going on on

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Speaker 3: social media with April. She had April definitely said things

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Speaker 3: or posted something. Hannah can speak to a little bit

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Speaker 3: more because Hanna and I had talked about it before

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Speaker 3: I sat down with Kathy. Hannah, what was happening on

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Speaker 4: Produce Hannah, and can I just butt into here for

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Speaker 4: a second. I thought we were trying to get Kathy

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Speaker 4: back on the podcast to talk about this, but you

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Speaker 2: I'll explain it everything here in a sucse.

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Speaker 4: Okay, thank you, I'll not get on here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what was the drama with April and the asking

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Speaker 4: Okay, right, Yeah, there was drama about the whole trip

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Speaker 4: that they show to Saint Martin. Somebody, for some reason,

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Speaker 4: April didn't go to Saint Martin, right, And she is

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Speaker 4: like saying on social media that, like, sorry, I have

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Speaker 4: then and then she also kind of added it and like,

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Speaker 3: It was like it was kind of undertoned. It was undertoned,

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Speaker 3: kind of jabs at these women for going on this trip,

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Speaker 3: even though April was invited. And so when Kathy was

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Speaker 3: about if Kathy isn't comfortable talking about it, meaning I'm

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Speaker 3: not gonna.

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Speaker 4: Show Kathy's timfortable talking about all of it.

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Speaker 2: It didn't feel like it.

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Speaker 3: So I laid the question out there as you read

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Speaker 3: digging into being like, yeah, but tell me. Honestly, because

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Speaker 3: Kathy's a friend of the show, I want to respect

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Speaker 3: with her. And I think she said enough, right, she

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Speaker 3: said enough to make it make sense. Hey, natural selection

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Speaker 3: I think we can pretty much tie those two things together,

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Speaker 2: You, and they'll all move on just fine.

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Speaker 3: I just didn't want to dig in and ask, you know,

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Speaker 2: She didn't want to talk about it.

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Speaker 3: She didn't even tell me she didn't want to talk

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Speaker 3: about it, but we got enough to say, hey, you

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Speaker 3: know what, these other girls are fine, they're doing great.

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Speaker 2: Whatever is happening with April.

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Speaker 3: April is kind of sharing about it on her social media,

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Speaker 3: no matter how old you are, things happen, and I

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Speaker 3: don't love that things are being shared. Like again, it

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Speaker 3: where it's like I want to make my grandkids a priority,

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Speaker 3: and it's like, so you're assuming that these other women don't, well,

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Speaker 3: how do you know that? Are they not allowed to

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Speaker 3: take a trip for a week away or like, so, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's very passive aggressive.

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Speaker 4: Well here's the passive aggressive line here. So she said

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Speaker 4: I just said, like I have to pay for a

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Speaker 4: not going to Saint Martin, although it's none of your business,

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Speaker 4: there are only three people who I knew I canceled,

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Speaker 4: who knew I canceled. But karma never sleeps. That's the

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Speaker 4: shady part.

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Speaker 3: It just it feels again, it feels like so many

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Speaker 3: storylines that we're covering right now in Vachination.

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Speaker 2: It feels like something said that you have no context

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Speaker 3: But I'm assuming we will get Kathy back on here

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Speaker 3: to maybe talk about it further. Once this, you know,

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Speaker 3: well almost Samos does have the exclusive interview with Kathy.

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Speaker 3: You can go back and listen to it. Actually, it's

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Speaker 3: a great interview. This is just a small piece of it.

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Speaker 3: And Kathy says, what as much as she wanted to

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Speaker 3: share without making this a bigger story, and there's wisdom

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Speaker 3: in that, right, can't we I mean, from this Bachelor

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Speaker 3: sharing just enough to not make it a bigger issue

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Speaker 3: than it needs to be. Yes, Okay, Hey, that's all

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Speaker 3: the headlines we have for you today. Again, it's a

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Speaker 3: two part week with the Bachelor. We will be breaking

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Speaker 3: down both episodes. Bachelor episode four is out, episode five

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Speaker 3: will be out. Obviously, we have headlines. So much happening

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Speaker 3: in Bachelor Nation, and the headlines won't ever stop. I

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Speaker 3: have a feeling, you know, it's wintertime. People start acting

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Speaker 3: crazy in the winter. We'll get more headlines next week.

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Speaker 3: We'll be talking about all of this good stuff. Anyways, Hey,

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Speaker 3: until next time, I've been Ben, I've been Ashley.

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