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Speaker 1: Oh, good time. Steve Tasker done, text tex down, text down,

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Speaker 1: texto times. Welcome to one Bill Slide, Welcome to one

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Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. It's a cloudy day in Orchard Park, where

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Speaker 1: the field is quiet these days. But we're only a

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Speaker 1: in the Carolina Panthers. And we're only a couple of

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Speaker 1: days away from the twenty eighteen Buffalo Bills training camp.

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, everybody, John Murphy, Steve Tasker back here together

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Speaker 1: once again. We are reunited and Steve, it feels so good.

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Speaker 1: It really does. We've back. We talked about a little

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Speaker 1: bit with Brownie on the show yesterday. Neither one of

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Speaker 1: us are going to apologize for taking the required time off,

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Speaker 1: but um, it's it's good to be back. I have

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Speaker 1: will submit this to you, Steve task We've both been

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Speaker 1: rightfully so, because what happens is there's finally light at

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Speaker 1: And it starts in you know, day after tomorrow, well

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Speaker 1: end of the season. It's yeah, it's you know, it's

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Speaker 1: just to talk to offensive line coach one Castio. People

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Speaker 1: I really look well and everybody at this point, everybody's

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Speaker 1: In fact, we gotta this Bill signed a guy this morning, right,

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Speaker 1: So um, you know. So when Keenan Robinson comes on,

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Speaker 1: It was twenty thirteen. I had it here. He suffered

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Speaker 1: Is he a special teamer? We'll find out. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: on Pro Football Focus, he's one of those guys, good

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Speaker 1: I played with Keenan in twenty and twelve. You'll love

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Speaker 1: And now you're seeing from his early in his career

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Speaker 1: Thursday starts at five thirty pm. It is a ticketed practice.

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Speaker 1: like none other. There was nothing like it. And I

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Speaker 1: knew it's only just a playoff, Berth, And we've been

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Speaker 1: to hire bigger games, you know, in the past. Let

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Speaker 1: me tell you something. They forget that. It was awesome.

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Speaker 1: There was nothing like that in the history of the

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Speaker 1: team where everybody celebrated together in the same moment for

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Speaker 1: the same reason together and it was all recorded and

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Speaker 1: we could share it with each other. And you see,

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Speaker 1: you know, Kyle Williams in the locker room finding out

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Speaker 1: with the rest of the team. There is nothing like that.

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Speaker 1: And you talk about it, how how absolutely awesome was

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Speaker 1: that for all Bills fans and all the you know,

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Speaker 1: all the way around. So you talk about memories and

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Speaker 1: you know, training camp memories and how it's different this

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Speaker 1: year because you know, now this team is has got

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Speaker 1: that monkey off their back. That was a moment like

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Speaker 1: none other. And I'm saying that as a player who

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Speaker 1: went to those four Super Bowls, was in all those

447
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 1: championship games, in that comeback game and all that, you know,

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Speaker 1: the first playoff game back in Rich Stadium when New

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Speaker 1: Airfield was a Rich stadium. That's a moment like none other. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I and I was, and we can you know,

451
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Speaker 1: you can take that into this season and feel really

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Speaker 1: good about the direction no matter whether they win more

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Speaker 1: games this year or not. That's a that's a that's

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Speaker 1: a moment you all take, we all take with us

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Speaker 1: into this season. I think it's pretty awesome, it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: I think that's one of the great moments Enfranchise history,

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Speaker 1: no question, no question. Let's take a few phone calls

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Speaker 1: your favorite moment as a fan that Bill's training camp.

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Speaker 1: We'll start with Stu in Lewiston Stull, go ahead, you're

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Speaker 1: on the air with us. Hey, guys, great show. Thank

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Speaker 1: you first before I get the nineteen seventy six and

462
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Speaker 1: then you see I U still love focusing and you

463
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 1: want to kick coverage and if you get knocked down twice,

464
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Speaker 1: don't make the sack get down the field that you're embellishing.

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Speaker 1: But I appreciate it. Thanks Stu. That's good. That's good

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Speaker 1: of you. What's your favorite memory of Niagara University? When

467
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Speaker 1: I was nine years old, my sister went to school

468
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Speaker 1: there in summer school and left me at the field

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Speaker 1: for an hour, went to class and I didn't think

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Speaker 1: anything about autographs or any of that. Standing by the

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Speaker 1: gate and the whole team walked out. O. J. Simpson

472
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 1: walked right over and today, but do you want an

473
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: autographs and picked me out of the crowd. Didn't have

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Speaker 1: a paper, and he made someone go get one for

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Speaker 1: me and gave me an autograph and then brought up

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Speaker 1: a regiment Kensley and Jim Bracton. So yeah, really neat

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Speaker 1: memory for a nine year old kid. Absolutely, absolutely, that's awesome, Stu.

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Speaker 1: That's a good that's a great memory. And at a

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Speaker 1: time when you know when things were different, Stu. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know I was there at Niagara as a kid.

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Speaker 1: Niagara was It was a lot like all the other

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Speaker 1: camps I believe around the league, and nothing like training

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Speaker 1: camp now right, I mean just sort of low key,

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Speaker 1: um not attended. I'm sorry, low key. There weren't a

485
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Speaker 1: lot of people there. There wasn't a lot of media there.

486
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Speaker 1: You could basically roam anywhere you wanted to. They had

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Speaker 1: snow fences around a couple of fields. That was it.

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Speaker 1: And right by the snow fence. Yeah, yeah, that's what

489
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Speaker 1: they did in for don'tias. The whole time I was

490
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Speaker 1: there was just snow fences and people. They chit chat

491
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Speaker 1: with you during practice, and yeah it was. It was

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Speaker 1: a different world, yep, but sure it was. Thanks due,

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Speaker 1: thanks for calling it. Let's go to Bob in Ripley,

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Speaker 1: New York. Bob, your favorite moment as a fan at

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Speaker 1: Bills training camp? What do you have? Hi? John? Hi Steve?

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Speaker 1: H Uh. My favorite time was in Fredonia. I got

497
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Speaker 1: to stand by the golf cart or Jim Kelly and

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Speaker 1: him signing his autographs and uh we got to talk

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Speaker 1: quite a bit. And then uh during practice I watched

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Speaker 1: a receiver running down alongside the fence and he caught

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Speaker 1: the ball behind him and brought it up, spending on

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Speaker 1: his finger. Who was it, mister Tasker? He just told

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Speaker 1: that story. You were there. We have confirmation to Steve,

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00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 1: and he's embellishing too. But yeah, this must have been

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Speaker 1: a different time, Steve, because did you have more than

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Speaker 1: one of those? Yeah? Practiced it. I told you. I

507
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: told you you can't do anything but unless you practice it.

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Speaker 1: Did you get cell phone video to that, Bob? It's

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Speaker 1: on practice film somewhere some No, I didn't. If it's

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Speaker 1: not on a somebody's cell phone, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it really happened. And it's funny too, because I couldn't

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Speaker 1: even Bob, I couldn't even tell you what year that was.

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Speaker 1: Um it was it's during the early Super Bowl years

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Speaker 1: because Nick Nikolau was the position coach at that time.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, so I don't know who. Yeah, thanks

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Speaker 1: very much, Bob, Thanks you for your call. What was

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Speaker 1: the deal with the golf carts, Steve? How did they?

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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody had a golf card for doing you,

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Speaker 1: and then everybody had a souped up golf cart that

520
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: would go like fifty miles an hour, and you were

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Speaker 1: only really, when you think about it, walking from the

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Speaker 1: locker room to the dormitory complex, which I'm guessing was

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Speaker 1: maybe about two hundred yards. Nobody would have fallen over

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Speaker 1: from exhaustion from that stroll. No, but here's what was

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Speaker 1: the deal with those golf cards it gave here. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's a good point. It was a long walk, ye,

527
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Speaker 1: a couple hundred yards plus if you made the walk,

528
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Speaker 1: you would have to sign for two hundred yards and

529
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: you couldn't get to the thing. And I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: if you if you wanted to get some rest, and

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Speaker 1: you want to get in there and get taped, you know,

532
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Speaker 1: and you had this routine. There was always a question

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Speaker 1: mark as to how many people were gonna be there,

534
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Speaker 1: and you'd, you know, you'd be ten minutes later than

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Speaker 1: you thought you would. And the golf carts were also

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Speaker 1: away for people to for guys to avoid having to

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Speaker 1: be held up by by the crowd. And I know

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Speaker 1: this too, that when they started doing the the golf carts,

539
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Speaker 1: and this is the truth. I think Ralph and Marv

540
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Speaker 1: two and some of the guys said listen, they talked

541
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Speaker 1: to like Jim Thurman Bruce on some of the you

542
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Speaker 1: know the month Rush more of that team, the five presidents,

543
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: they talked to them and said, listen, you guys, you

544
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: got to start signing autographs, either before or after both.

545
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Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta do it. They just and they

546
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Speaker 1: did for the most part. Jim stayed out there all

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Speaker 1: the time, and Jim said, listen, I'll do it, but

548
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Speaker 1: you gotta. You know, I gotta. I'm gonna be on

549
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Speaker 1: time or I'm gonna be late if I stay there

550
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Speaker 1: and sign everybody who wants my You know, Jim was

551
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 1: like an autograph machine. I mean he couldn't. He didn't

552
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: do anything but sign autographs sometimes. So the golf carts

553
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Speaker 1: will let you avoid that some and let guys get

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Speaker 1: more rest and come in and not have to be

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Speaker 1: over practice forty five minutes early, which is basically what

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Speaker 1: it would have meant for Jim Terrman Bruce. I guess, Pap,

557
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: but why did the players have the golf carts altered?

558
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: The governor has taken off, so they'd have to go

559
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Speaker 1: like forty five miles an hour. That was that was

560
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Speaker 1: just profession for fun, just for fun, because that was

561
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: not those things would speed around there. Yes, Dad, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I got a story for you about the late grade

563
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: Van Miller and not a golf cart, but his actual car.

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Speaker 1: At for doing your training camp, I'll tell you that

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Speaker 1: when we return. We're talking about this is one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite moments too. Your favorite moment as a fan

567
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Speaker 1: of Bills training camp. Give us a call eight oh

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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty or toll free one eight eight

569
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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty, or you can do

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00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: it on Twitter at One Bills Live. We'll talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Your favorite moment as a fan of Bills training camp.

572
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Speaker 1: Got a good show today two days away Bills Training

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Speaker 1: Camp at Fisher It is One Bills Live from One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live Chamber Fee Steve Tasker with us here today.

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Speaker 1: We're here all week Monday, or was yesterday, today tomorrow

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Speaker 1: here at One Bill's Live. Right next to it the

578
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Speaker 1: new new airfield Thursday Friday Live from training camp. We're

579
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Speaker 1: looking forward to that. We're talking about training camp. What's

580
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Speaker 1: your favorite memory of training camp? All right, here's one

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Speaker 1: free don Yae. It was a little looseiffert on. You

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Speaker 1: would you agree, Steve. Yeah, it's so different worlds. Different

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Speaker 1: world So the late great Van Miller, the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame broadcast over the Bills, comes in to do his

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Speaker 1: six o'clock live shot for w i VB TV Channel four,

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00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: and he used to pull, I know you're you hear

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00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: the engine next door? I do? Yeah? Right, I don't

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00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: know if you can hear it? Yeah, go ahead. Sounds

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00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: like Steve's cutting the lawn outside. Does Van is christ

590
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: are convertible? Right up to the live shot site, which

591
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: was up on the grass. He would drive on the grass.

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00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: It was a little lucid. Fredonia does a live shot?

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Speaker 1: Does it clean? Does it great? As he always did,

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00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: backs up to get out, you know, six thirty going

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00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 1: home back to Buffalo to do the sportscast in Buffalo

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Speaker 1: to eleven, backs right over a tree, a little tiny

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00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: baby tree, knocks it right down and drives away. He

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00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: didn't know he did it. He got sighted by the

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Speaker 1: Sunney Fredonia police the very next day and argued like,

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Speaker 1: I didn't do that, and the rest of us are

601
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: sitting there saying you did, Van, you did. We saw it,

602
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: and he fought it and he paid his mind. He

603
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: backed up over a tree. And the thing was the

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00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: irony was Van used to have a joke about that.

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00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: He would always tell about. Steve Tasker was honored at

606
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Speaker 1: his alma Maana Northeastern. They honored him by uprooting a tree.

607
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: And here's Van uprooting a tree at Suney Fredonia accidentally.

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00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: Was pretty amazing. And he never he never. I always

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Speaker 1: found the Fredonia public safety officers at the campus uncooperative.

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Speaker 1: What when you wanted to drive your golf cart forty

611
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Speaker 1: miles an hour at ten thirty at night, that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: One year I had a scooter, I remember that. And

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Speaker 1: these guys are driving four wheel golf carts like these

614
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: vehicles around camp and I've got this little as a scooter. Yeah. Yeah.

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00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: The cop lipped out of his car with his nightstick

616
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: and came over and was angry at me because listen,

617
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Speaker 1: this this is and it's and he's right, um um,

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00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,719
Speaker 1: the scooter needed to be licensed. It was a licensed

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Speaker 1: vehicle because you know, it's a scooter. And he didn't

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Speaker 1: want me to drive across the campus. But but there's

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Speaker 1: twenty five golf carts, golf carts and those he was

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Speaker 1: like nothing, Well, the golf carts didn't. They used to

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Speaker 1: make their way down the street in Fornonia for you know,

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Speaker 1: post meeting refreshment time and not mine, but you know

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00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: they did. They were on the street illegal. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: golf cards. Yeah, yeah, you're afraid to tell stir you

627
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: don't want to dive deep into going in. I'm not

628
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Speaker 1: treading in those waters. The five Presidents will chime in

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Speaker 1: and I'll be in trouble though. That'll exclude me from

630
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: the club. But yeah, there was a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: like that going on, and the police were, you know, tolerant,

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00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 1: and they would but they know, they weren't just like, hey,

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00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: go ahead and do what you want. They were like,

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00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: what got come on, bro r, you know, don't do

635
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: this and don't do that. And and I was not

636
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Speaker 1: one of those culprit Yeah, there were other guys. The

637
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore guys were rough, Steve that those guys took advantage.

638
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Speaker 1: Your favorite memory is a fan from Bill's training camp

639
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Speaker 1: wherever it was, give us a call eight o three

640
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Speaker 1: five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five

641
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty Derek and Westfield, New York has

642
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: a memory from camp It for doing you Derek. Go ahead,

643
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: you're on the air. How are you doing, John Steve? Hi,

644
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: how are you doing doing? Good man? What's up? I'm

645
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: actually sitting in front of Dotsall. I believe that was

646
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: your uh locker room back in Fredoni's State. Yeah, the one. Yeah,

647
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: it was like the all purpose locker room. There is

648
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: the big one. Yeah yeah yeah. But where I was

649
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: getting I was. I remember my friend and I were

650
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: about twelve thirteen years old, and uh, We're sitting under

651
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: a tree waiting for my mother to come pick us

652
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: up after camp and I don't know where. Here comes

653
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: Mark Kelso with two ice cream cones. No, no golf

654
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: card for Kelso. Right, he's walking. Oh no, yeah, it

655
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: was just just walking. Yeah, two ice cream cones. Gave

656
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: him to us. Wow, sat down, had a nice conversation

657
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: and of course said God bless you know. Mark Glso

658
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: signed our his autography and uh, what was kind of

659
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: weird was once I got in high school, I actually

660
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: wore that kazoo helmet that Mark Kelso Wow. Wow. Had

661
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: I had a concussion into my junior and then I

662
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: had another one of my first game in my senior

663
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: year and my school bought one for me, And of

664
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: course I got picked on, but it helped. Sure, Yeah,

665
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 1: you're gonna get if you were that, if you were

666
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: the kazoo helmet, you're gonna get picked on, no question. Derek.

667
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: That's a that's a great memory. And he's right, that's

668
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: a I could never have remembered. That was Dodd's Hall there.

669
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: I wonder if they've changed the name. What was the

670
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: name of the dormitory complex? If for doing you? I

671
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 1: don't know, Derek, are you's still there? What's the name

672
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: of the dormitories over there? Oh? You know, there's one

673
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: hundred of them. I can't you know, I don't know

674
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: them all. I'm actually just I'm here delivering some beer

675
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: equipment for a wedding. So there you go. Ye, yeah,

676
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: I forgot. It's been so long, I forgot all of

677
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: I've forgotten all of those, uh names of all those buildings.

678
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: But it was, Yeah, it was. It was a great

679
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: atmosphere and and for that time in the NFL, I

680
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: mean that's about what it was. Everywhere, you know, all

681
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: around the National Football League, everybody had kind of those

682
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: same facilities. And only then, and I think right around

683
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: that time, perhaps late in my career. Maybe just after

684
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: teams began not to go away for training camp, and

685
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: now the Bills are one of the few teams that

686
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: still do. And I wouldn't be surprised if maybe that

687
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: that changes over the next few years. But um, because

688
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: it's it's an expense for them to head over there,

689
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: um pack all the stuff up, and we've been talking

690
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: about it for weeks. But uh, you know, things have

691
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: changed in the NFL to that point, and this facility

692
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: at one Bill's Drive is is more than capable of

693
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: handling an entire training camp. The only thing they'd have

694
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: to worry about is housing for these guys. I'm looking

695
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: at the Fredonia map. There was Disney Hall was big

696
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: over there, right and what Yeah, Disney Hall, Erie Hall,

697
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: Disney Hall, Grissom. I think you got Grissom Where where

698
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: Grissom is where we stayed. Yeah, from Grissom is one

699
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: that was still there when we were there. Thanks very

700
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: much for your call. We'll take another call as we

701
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: talk about your favorite training camp memory. Here is uh

702
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: Paul calling from Tonawan to hide Paul, go ahead, you're

703
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: on the air. Thank the afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking

704
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: my call. My memory is really kind of a lighthearted one.

705
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: And it's got to be about twenty eight years ago

706
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: because the forchains, my son was about one year old

707
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: and we took them down to training camp at Radonia

708
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: and if your call, they had the snow fences and

709
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: the players and sign autographs. Uh. Afterwards, we actually went

710
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: to try to get photos with my son and see

711
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: if I believe you were gracious enough to take a photo,

712
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: and you look very natural holding a one year old baby.

713
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: Art still also was very natural. And then lastly, I

714
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: remember giving him for a picture to Andrey Read and

715
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: he would have thought that we had given a hot

716
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: potato to him. We grabbed our son back as quickly

717
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: as we could, but we were so afraid that he

718
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: was going to bumble him. So and that's kind of lighthearted,

719
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: as I say, Yeah, Andre didn't wasn't as adept at

720
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: holding babies as Yeah, Art still had seven kids. I

721
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: had five, so yeah, we were we were well versed

722
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: in that. Um that's interesting, But you're right. I mean

723
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: that you talked about those snow fences and they were,

724
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: you know, omnipresent. Yea. They must have had half a

725
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: mile of snow fence stretched around No fences always look

726
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: awful too, right, Oh my god, you're terrible. Why are

727
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: they always read? But yeah, they're they're bad, and they're

728
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: you know, they may as well just strung a string

729
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: around there, you know, like a garden, just because that's

730
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: all that snow fence was. But they had a half

731
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: mile of that stuff going around all the way around

732
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: both practice fields. And oh gosh, that's your favorite memory

733
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: from Bill's training camp as a Bills fan. From the

734
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 1: tweet sheet, Dwayne Hurdle says, as a kid, I remember

735
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: going to Niagara University and my buddies got oj to

736
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: sign a helmet for them. Very cool. We had a

737
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: caller say the same thing. Oja came over and offered

738
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: to sign. To sign matters. You got more tweets on

739
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: the tweet cheats, Yeah, from wondering Jack going to Herdoni

740
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: with my dad's standing right next to Flutie on the sideline,

741
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: and then going to a local restaurant between sessions and

742
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: meeting Sam Gash and Marcellus Wiley. Both were friendly, signed

743
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: my hat chatted with us. Also. EJ. Manuel throwing a

744
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: pass into the hospitality tent at Saint John Fisher, much

745
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: to our Schigar it happened. That's part of EJ's legacy. Yeah,

746
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: that part of the yeah we yeah yeah. Jay Harris,

747
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: our producer, got hit in the head with him. That's right,

748
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: that's one of his camp memories. Yes, that's that's gonna

749
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: follow him for Yeah. I think was he in the sidelines.

750
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: I think he was at least he was on the sidelines.

751
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: Was in the arm he said it wasn't in his head.

752
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: He got hit in the arm on the sideline. Well,

753
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: that's part of that is your fault, right, If you

754
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: get hit by a ball and you're on the sidelines,

755
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: that's on you. That's not like being in the hospitality tent.

756
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: You would never you would never expect a ball to

757
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: come into the hospitality tent. But if you're on the sidelines,

758
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: you gotta be on your toes, right, Steve, you gotta

759
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 1: be paying attention. You shouldn't should be by a ball

760
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: or catch it. Well, you should miss in the arms.

761
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: You gotta know you're gonna should be watching that stuff.

762
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 1: If it hit you in the arm, that's catch a ball.

763
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: Keep your head on a swivel, man, it's an old saying.

764
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: Tiffany Daniels tweets in meeting Kyle Williams as we were

765
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: leaving training camp. He was headed a meeting, stomped by

766
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 1: to say hi to us, signed my son's football, Excited

767
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: he's back for one more year. Watching him with his

768
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: sons in Miami was something special. Hopefully they can do

769
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: it again this season. Kyle has become the man and

770
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: he always has been, really since he's been with the Bills,

771
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: the guy that fans can identify with an approach, and

772
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: he is that approachable. He always is. Yeah, and then

773
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: he's assault to the earth. And that's why the guy

774
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: that players congregate around him and he draws, he draws

775
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: a leadership role because of the kind of guy he is.

776
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: That's exactly why how you become a leader, you'd be

777
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: somebody that somebody else wants to be. Like. We've got

778
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: more of them as well. From back in the day,

779
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: Andre Reid caught a ball right where I was standing

780
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: at Fredonia and photographer said, hey, Andrea, how about a smile.

781
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: Andre Turner gave us an award winning grin. He's a

782
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: great dude. All that stuff out. That's how close it

783
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: used to be. I mean, there were there was really

784
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: about I think there was like there wasn't even ten

785
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: yards between the sidelines and the snow fence. It was

786
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: like it was like five it's like fifteen or twenty feet, yeah,

787
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: five or seven. I don't think it was ten yards even,

788
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: and people could just stand there and if you were

789
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: standing there watching practice, I mean you could just you

790
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: didn't have to walk over there to have a conversation.

791
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: You just turn around and start talking to him because

792
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: it was you were that close. Yeah, I think it's

793
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,479
Speaker 1: it's you're in pretty close proximity at st on Fisher

794
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: too for the most part. Now when they work in

795
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: Groundie Stadium especially, you're right on top of the field.

796
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: But even on the grass practice fields, the main field

797
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: on the one on the side, you're in pretty close quarters.

798
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: You can get you if you have a message to

799
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: deliver to a Bill's player, you can certainly deliver it.

800
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: And the stands allow you getting elevated to so you

801
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: can get a better picture of actual football stuff that's

802
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 1: come on, not just the personal stuff, and that's always

803
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: a plus. One more from the tweet sheet, this one

804
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: from Lawrence Foster, who says, back in the Fredonia days,

805
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: my dad got my favorite player Mark Kelso to come

806
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: over and get a picture and he stayed to talk

807
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 1: five to ten minutes with us. That sounds like Kelso, Yeah,

808
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: you talk about it all the stuff that you remember,

809
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: most of the stuff I remember about, particularly fre Donia.

810
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: We had a very veteran football team. It was a

811
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: little bit more old school because Marv was a little

812
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: bit old school. He didn't like to play rookies. He

813
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: treated us like responsible adults, and we responded by practicing

814
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: what we Plus the great guys on the team, the

815
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: great players on the team, the best players on the

816
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: team were always the hardest working ones as well. Jim Thurman, Bruce,

817
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: Andre Corneie Ben and Daryl Talley can Hold. All those

818
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: guys really worked hard when they were at practice. So

819
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: Marv knew that the other role players like me and

820
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 1: other guys would step up and work hard at practice.

821
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: So for that reason, practices were crisp short. We had

822
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: a lot of free time between any We make jokes

823
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: about it. We played golf during training camp at in

824
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: between the morning and yes and then in the after

825
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: the afternoon session. And plus if you get days off

826
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: or something you felt like it. And that was other

827
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: teams around the league couldn't believe we were as good

828
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: as we were in the regular season because our training

829
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: camps weren't excruciating league painting. And you know, it goes

830
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: to the fact that, first of all, Mars extremely intelligent

831
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: and had a lot of confidence in what the culture

832
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: he'd created would do. And two we knew how good

833
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: we had it, we were thankful for it, and we

834
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: wanted to continue it. So not only do we take

835
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: advantage of the free time, we also worked really hard

836
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: when we were supposed to be working really hard in

837
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: that era, that Bill's era and the Fredonia Camp era.

838
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 1: Did you ever have a player come to the Bills

839
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: from another team and say, what you guys played golf

840
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: twice a day? Like who is? Oh? Yeah? And I

841
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: said this earlier than I think I told this earlier

842
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: in the show when I first came on, when Chris

843
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: Spielman came, Yeah, you know kind he was, he was

844
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: an intensity level was ridiculous. It was off the charts literally. Um,

845
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: So we go out for our first morning practice of

846
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: training camp. We're in full gear and this was you know,

847
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: full gear, full go contact running practice, nine on seven,

848
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. So we get out there and

849
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Speaker 1: it was a first practice. Marv never really liked to

850
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: come in and all of a sudden, we're gonna bang

851
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Speaker 1: heads all of it, right what? He didn't do that.

852
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Speaker 1: So we were out there literally for an hour and

853
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Speaker 1: forty five minutes, and he brings us all up and

854
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: he talks to us and head and he says, hey,

855
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: good practice. We're gonna here's some housekeeping. We're gonna have lunch.

856
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: You know, make sure you get that afternoon meetings that

857
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Speaker 1: I thought I used a few things like that, and

858
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: he says, make sure you get your treatments and all

859
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: that stuff. And he's all right, all right, good practice,

860
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: and we break it down. We break like say team

861
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: or whatever it was, and we everybody started to file

862
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Speaker 1: off the field. Chris Spielman was like, no, no, we're

863
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: not what, no where we gotta hit because we had

864
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Speaker 1: got No. He didn't want to be done with practice.

865
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: He's like, because that's what. And he was like cursing

866
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: like a drunken sailor because he was so upset that

867
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: we weren't gonna hit and tackle and play real live football.

868
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: What do you think when you guys happened to Karen

869
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: went over the south Shore for a couple of hours. Yeah,

870
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: he did. He couldn't believe it. It was completely completely

871
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: foreign to him. And uh, he didn't know what to think.

872
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: He absolutely didn't know what to think. And that's really

873
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: the only time, you know. And there was a couple

874
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: of stories about Chris Spielman that that are like that, uh,

875
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Speaker 1: in his time here in Buffalo, when I was playing

876
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: with him, and but he was off his rocker in

877
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: a couple of instances, and just because of that, he's

878
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: just he had his so wound so tight when the

879
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: pads went on, he didn't he wasn't normal. Favorite training

880
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Speaker 1: camp memories, that's what we're talking about. Want to hear yours.

881
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: We'll take a break and come back for more. It

882
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Speaker 1: is One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive and this

883
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio. But I've got a one Bills

884
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: Live John Murphy, Steve Tasker in our one Buffalo studio

885
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: and coming up at one o'clock. Brand new Buffalo Bill's

886
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: linebacker Keenan Robinson joins us on the phone line. We

887
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: got Mike Renner from Pro Football Focus coming up at

888
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: two Great Connors from Connors and Farris, the official training

889
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: Camp sponsor for the fifth consecutive Here Greg o'by in

890
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: studio with us at two thirty today. From the tweet

891
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: sheet off topic, but this has to be mentioned from MC,

892
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: he's basically ratting me out, Steve, you were not here, yes,

893
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: he goes Hey Steve, Steve. Steve Murvin did the show

894
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: up yesterday by saying, coming from the John Murphy Show,

895
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: I mean one bills live lol, Mike C. Thanks Mike C.

896
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: I paid my dollar. I got three dollars in the

897
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: John Murphy Show. Fine jar fine jar over what the

898
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: end of April? May June? Almost three months? Once per

899
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: month I missed step Hey Steve. Steve Murphy said this

900
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: when you were gone. Basically that's what his tweet is, right,

901
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: I know what can I say? Thanks Mike, I have

902
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: my minions everywhere. Wten you out, Thanks Mike, thanks for listening.

903
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: Favorite training camp memory at Bill's camp. What do you think?

904
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: Here's Mike in Pittsburgh. Hello Mike, how are you hey?

905
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: Good afternoon guys, And first of all, I really enjoy

906
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: your show. You guys do a great job. Thank you.

907
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: This is a lot of years ago, but Doug Foody

908
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: was at training camp and Saint John Fisher and they

909
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: were on the practice field. They were signing autographs and

910
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: my son Evan and his buddy Zach were down the

911
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: line a bit, but they hope to get an autograph.

912
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: It looked like Doug was going to turn the corner.

913
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: So back in those day, they had sort of a

914
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: pedestrian uh fence on the football field, and they went around,

915
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: hopped the fence and ran the full length of that

916
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: football field, caught Dug at the corner and they both

917
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: got a football signed. Whoa, they did cart wheels all

918
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: the way back down the football. That's cool. Now there

919
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: you go. Of course they got approached by a couple

920
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: of guys on the on the way end, but yeah,

921
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: that's all right, that's a good one. Thanks. Here's Cannon Lackawanna. Hi,

922
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: can welcome. You're on the air with this, Hey guys,

923
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: a great show. Thanks. As an adult, I went to

924
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Speaker 1: Fredonia and I went to Miles Strip Road where the

925
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: old Regency used to be. But favorite memory of mine

926
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: was when I was a kid, my dad took me

927
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 1: out to East Arara and I was all excited to

928
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: see a professional football team in Buffalo and they're by

929
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: Nax's estate and I think they used fields fields, Yeah,

930
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: and there was nothing there. It was it was there,

931
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: And I guess they went into East Arara and went

932
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: into one of the schools to use the locker rooms

933
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: there they us did they stayed at the Roycroft in Yeah,

934
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: and that's that's where they stayed. So, yeah, colors. I

935
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 1: think they had the silver helmets and shirts. And I'm wondering,

936
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking or the Detroit Lions. They looked just like

937
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: Detroit for the colors. Where the colors came from? Yeah, yeah,

938
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Speaker 1: it Steve. I was I was driving through eastore or

939
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: the other day and you know, Easter are pretty well

940
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: and I was actually on Knox Road, I was leaving

941
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: the village and actually had the thought, as Ken points out,

942
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: how how would it be? And it was a while ago,

943
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: obviously in nineteen sixty, but how could those players? I

944
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: believe many times they walked from Roycroft to Knox Farm

945
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: for training camp practice. So what what? What must you know?

946
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Speaker 1: Easter is kind of a traditional little uh village. It's

947
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: gotta be gotta be two mile walk, Yeah, a mile?

948
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: What looked at him looked like back in the I mean,

949
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: I remember what nineteen sixties looked like. But what the

950
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: heck would that have looked like? To see players? We

951
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: had to shuttle them. Come on, I've heard that they

952
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: walked around a little bit, and I'm sure they were

953
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: walking around the villa, the village, but in uniform. Maybe

954
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: I've heard that. I'm driving down Knox Road thinking that's

955
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: unbelievable that, like Tom Sestak, maybe it may have walked

956
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: down the street. Training camp. Yeah, anyway, Yeah, there's stories.

957
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: There's hundreds of stories like that. Oh yeah, talking about

958
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: your favorite training camp memory. We will continue discussion as

959
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: the afternoon moves along. We've got a guy going to

960
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: his first Bills training camp coming up this week. Keenan Robinson,

961
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: linebacker played for the Washington Redskins, played for the New

962
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: York Giants, signed this morning with the Buffalo Bills, and

963
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Speaker 1: he's gonna join us when we return. It is One

964
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Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive, and this is Buffalo

965
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Hello Hills Radio Network. Stories update from One

966
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive, two days away from the Bill's first practice

967
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: at Saint John Fisher College in Pittsburgh, New York. Nineteenth

968
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: consecutive season, Bills have trained outside Rochester. They're ready to go.

969
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: The players scheduled to report tomorrow. They will be on

970
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,959
Speaker 1: the field on Thursday at five thirty pm. A ticket

971
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: at practice. You need a ticket. Go to Buffalo Bills

972
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: dot com for details on that. Bills filled their remaining

973
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: open roster spot today by signing veteran linebacker Keenan Robinson

974
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: just before training camp opens. He's twenty nine years old,

975
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: five year NFL veteran played last year with the New

976
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 1: York Giants. Played in six games after a quad injury

977
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: landed him on injury reserve last season. Keenan Robinson going

978
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Speaker 1: to be on the line with his live moments from now.

979
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: Falcons wide receiver Julio Jones is not going to report

980
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: the camp for them Thursday. He wants his contract redone.

981
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: The Falcons are aware of his plans. They hope he

982
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 1: changes his mind. He could be fined up to forty

983
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for each day he misses. Atlanta's first practice

984
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: is Friday. The Falcons brass previously said they will not

985
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: rework his deal. Julio Jones signed a five year, seventy

986
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: one million dollars contract in twenty fifteen. Patriots are shopping

987
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: the trade of third year receiver and Malcolm Mitchell. He's

988
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: trying to come back from a knee injury that kept

989
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: him out all last season, putting his future of the

990
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: team in doubt. Mitchell has been a regular working out

991
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: at the team facility. Twenty sixteen fourth round pick out

992
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: of Georgia, a key player in the Patriot second half

993
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: comeback win over the Falcons in Super Bowl fifty one,

994
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 1: and after a successful stint with the Rams, Connor Barwin

995
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: coming back East this time. Venteran linebacker, says he's agreed

996
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: to terms with the New York Giants. Barwin, familiar with

997
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: the NFC East, played a big chunk of his career

998
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: with the Philadelphia Eagles. He has agreed to a two

999
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: year deal with the New York Giants worth up to

1000
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: five million dollars. And that's the update from One Bill's Drive,

1001
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Tasker in our One Buffalo studio.

1002
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: As we're getting set to go out the training camp

1003
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: on Thursday this week. When we get there, we hope

1004
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: to see the newest Buffalo Bill linebacker there as well.

1005
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: He joins us live on the Subway Fresh Stay Hotline.

1006
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: Happy to have linebacker Keenan Robinson on the air with

1007
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: this Keenan, John Murphy and Steve Tasker in Buffalo, thank

1008
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: you very much for joining us. How you guys doing that?

1009
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: Sure you waited right to the better end to signed

1010
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: with the team. Did you sweat it out at all?

1011
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: Keenan looking for a place to play this season? I did?

1012
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: I mean I had this visits probably set up probably

1013
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: about a month ago, and uh, you know I had

1014
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: come back afflication and the coaches were on the occasions

1015
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: what else, they had some stuff set up. So this

1016
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: has been in the plan about a month now, but

1017
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: nothing was setting setting stone for yesterday, and so I'm

1018
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: just happy all worked out. You know, what have they

1019
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: told you about your role and what you're gonna be

1020
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: but the position you're gonna be playing and your spot

1021
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: as you go into camp and what your prospects are?

1022
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: They hadn't told me anything. Um, yeah, I know last year,

1023
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: you guys, the Bills are coming Athrey hard after my

1024
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: one year was a giant, and um, they told me

1025
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: that they would see me. Um it's probably I guess

1026
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: a week's high linebacker playing opposite of Lorenzo and so

1027
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's changed or anything. But um,

1028
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: I'm versuti. I can play all three positions, so for me,

1029
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I'm just here to help the team.

1030
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Speaker 1: Speaking to Lorenzo Lorenzo Alexander, veteran Bill's linebacker team leader.

1031
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: We got a text from him about an hour or

1032
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: so gay an hour so ago Keenan in which he said,

1033
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: I played with Keenan in twenty twelve. You'll love this kid.

1034
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: Good dude. That's pretty good recommendation from one of the

1035
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: team leaders here in Buffalo. Yeah, man, Lorendo is a

1036
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: great guy. He's one of those guys that I played

1037
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: with a washburn and then he kind of took me

1038
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: under his way to kind of helped developed me. And

1039
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: he was already a betterman at that point of his career.

1040
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: But he said, he's a great team player, and he's

1041
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: you know, some guys they kind of decline that they

1042
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: get older. With him, he's been getting better with time.

1043
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: So I think that's what he's able to do at

1044
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: his age and how long he's been league, and I

1045
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: mean he was don't changing seas he's had. He's done

1046
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 1: some great things and now I'm happy to play with

1047
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: him again. You're starting, Keenan, you're starting your sixth year.

1048
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: You had six year career and you're starting your seventh

1049
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: year coming to Buffalo. You switched teams once you went

1050
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: from Washington where you started your career, had a few

1051
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: years and then one year in New York. Talk to

1052
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 1: us about what you bring, you know, what's your thoughts

1053
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: are about changing teams again and you know kind of

1054
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: stepping into a starting role for your third NFL team

1055
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. Well, for me, um, you know, at

1056
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: love the rest teams. I'm looking for a good opportunity.

1057
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: It is good for me to be able to help

1058
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: contribute and just continue to tee on my career. And

1059
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: that's why I spent two years in New York, you know, Um,

1060
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: just you know, trying to be the best you know,

1061
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: team and player I can be and to be used,

1062
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: um in the role they had me to be used.

1063
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: And now I'm looking to the team extend my career.

1064
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: But I want to be a partisonal special on this

1065
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: team and something special, you know, you guys, Um, the

1066
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo builds have lost the second round the playoffs last year,

1067
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 1: but um, that's something that's a great start, you know,

1068
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: that's a great foundation for this year. So I think

1069
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: as coming in as a new guy, as a team,

1070
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, I see that as a motivation now only

1071
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: as something that we can attain and go past, you

1072
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: know this come of year, but sooner than everybody that

1073
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: has a case and effect to her a visitation abound

1074
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: that you know, going out and the second round to

1075
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: early you know what I'm saying. I think a hundreds

1076
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: or more. I think guys want to say expect more

1077
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: and going to the season, everybody had that chip on

1078
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: the shoulder expecting to excel further than what they did

1079
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: last year. Keenan, talk to me about the injuries. You've

1080
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: had your work your way around a couple of them

1081
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 1: during your career, including last year with a quad muscle

1082
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: injury in November that ended your season with the Giants.

1083
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: How are you from that and moving forward to what

1084
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,479
Speaker 1: do you see there? Yeah? Man, I had a little

1085
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: quad pool and something that happened, you know, something that

1086
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: I didn't have any or any I guess I think

1087
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: that was nagging or lagging up to that point, so

1088
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know when it happened. Album and weird just

1089
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: ran I never had a quart and you got this before,

1090
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: but it happened. I nowhere, and that's that's what happens

1091
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: to last football. Some free things happened, Free incidents happened,

1092
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: So that's kind of what happened in my situation. But

1093
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: I was able to rehab it and able to hell

1094
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: it back up to complete health before seasons over. Unfortunately

1095
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: for me, um they put me an eye all the

1096
00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:00,280
Speaker 1: first season UM with spinish, so I wouldn't finish the seasons.

1097
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: But I was fully healed before end the season, so

1098
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: that thankfully for me, you know, I didn't have that

1099
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: set back on to the off season. I was able

1100
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: to start my off season fully healthy and do it

1101
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: to just I guess prepare from day one of the

1102
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: off season rather than having to rehab something that would

1103
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: have held me back. So right now I'm fully healthy

1104
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: and I'm just ready to partaking training camp and just

1105
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: going to do what I can help to seem. Yeah,

1106
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: it was a tough year all the way around in

1107
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 1: New York last year where you know, you got injured personally,

1108
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: it's bad for you, but then your team struggled a

1109
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 1: little bit. They had a quarterback change where they benched.

1110
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: Eli talked to us a little bit about all the

1111
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: turmoil that seemed to be going on in New York

1112
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: last year. I know you were kind of probably a

1113
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: little bit removed from it as you were off the

1114
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: field and kind of rehabbing, But talk to us about

1115
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 1: the atmosphere and maybe what you see. Maybe that could

1116
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: have been different there in New York. It would have

1117
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: made things a little better. Man. The first game was

1118
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: the injuries. Man, we had a lot of guys go down.

1119
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: I think in one game we had all three of

1120
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: our star receivers go down. Brandon Marshall, O E j.

1121
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: Selon Shepherd all went down the same game. And then

1122
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: it was just crazy, man. And as the rest of

1123
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: the teams going on, we had guys or real linebacker

1124
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: went down, Bjum Snore, Chinks went down, Um she I

1125
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: can name. I won't say every guy on even side

1126
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: the ball had an injury at some point in season.

1127
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: We lost so many guys and then offense, you know,

1128
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: all Elis, you know, core stars that he needed, you know,

1129
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: to go to see the offense went down. So I

1130
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: think for the Giants last year, we just had a

1131
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: terrible season one because the injuries, but too we just

1132
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: didn't have enough firepower and we couldn't repeat what we

1133
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 1: did the year before. So I think that's what really

1134
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: really hurt was the injuries and just decide decide the injuries.

1135
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: I mean as far as the camaraderie in the locker

1136
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: room guys to be, it's just the fact that we

1137
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: were disappointed about, you know, not being on the I

1138
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: guess for best report every week because we didn't have

1139
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: the guys we need out there. We didn't have the

1140
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: teams that we want to have out there on Sunday.

1141
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: So we just tryed with compete like we were able

1142
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: to the gear before. So I think that's you know,

1143
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: Andrew's happened this part of the game. But sometimes you

1144
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: get to find a way to uh to win without

1145
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, certain guys and last year we could have

1146
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: Kenyan with with Washington, you had some injuries and it's

1147
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: kind of weird, right in November and twenty and twelve,

1148
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: you you tour one pectoral muscle and then the following year,

1149
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: just going first day training camp, you tour the other one.

1150
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: You had to feel like you were just getting a

1151
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: bad break there for a little bit, getting two pectoral

1152
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: muscle injuries in the span of what seven or eight months. Yeah, man,

1153
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: it was crazy. And man I took with guys now

1154
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: like some other guys that I used to training that. Man,

1155
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: just guess we were bending too much back in. Yeah,

1156
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: up five hundred pounds, so I had a lot of

1157
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: weight and I don't do that no more. It's different

1158
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: now and now I'm older, I can't understand what I

1159
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 1: need to get prepared for the season. And I'm still strong,

1160
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: but as far as the numbers go on, I'm not

1161
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: cuching near the same way that was. I'm strong in

1162
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: other areas, but it's just crazy how we were looking

1163
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 1: back in and now. So I just think that part

1164
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: of adapt party knowing what my body needs, part of

1165
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: training in different ways to incorporate the most out of

1166
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: me without having to put my body into waste where

1167
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: it can be stressed and can put it itself at

1168
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,479
Speaker 1: higher risk for injury. And now I'm you know, about

1169
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: to be on year seven, um from my rookie year. Now,

1170
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 1: I've learned a lot of things my body. I've grown.

1171
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: I've been learned to build a dad, to build a

1172
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: train the way I need to train fishing, so or

1173
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: I can be strong, fast, mobile, athletic, but not to

1174
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: my body where I'm always tense, always tight, always put

1175
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: myself for injury, for injury as far as those kind

1176
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: of muscle injuries come about, because that was those are

1177
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: things where I might have been, like I said, it's

1178
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: just too tight to two, not enough muscular balance in

1179
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: my body. And I think that's what led those two injuries,

1180
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: especially since the we're the same type of injuries. I

1181
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: wonder if if Washington wanted you to be bigger right

1182
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: read where when you got there to Washington, Jim hasst

1183
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: and moved your inside where you're playing inside linebacker back

1184
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: then now you're outside, right Yeah, I mean it's all

1185
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: the same to me. I mean people stay inside outside,

1186
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: but for me, how I do it all? So I

1187
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: came in the league at two forty thirty two forty two,

1188
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 1: and you know that's you know, you can play inside

1189
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: and outside that way. And really just my size, my

1190
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: frame is really what um I guess characterized me as

1191
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: an outside I'm reger to play inside or inside, think

1192
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: very outside. Because I had the friend due boat, so

1193
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: Jim has it he at the Senior Bowl, he had

1194
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: me doing outside. But when they drafted me, they wanted

1195
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: to be playing inside because they had guys like karagain

1196
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: Lorenzo some other guys that playing outside back who are

1197
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: true pass rushers, and that wasn't with my four. They

1198
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: had more of a coverage run stopper linebacker, So that's

1199
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: why they move in inside. But um and miss defense.

1200
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: You know a four or three, you know I'll be

1201
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: considered outside linebacker, but at the same time I can

1202
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: play inside. They need me too. Keena talks to us

1203
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: a little bit about do you have any concerns about

1204
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, he missed all the OTAs, all the mini camp.

1205
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: They've started to install all their defense and set their

1206
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: depth chart and all that. Are you concerned at all

1207
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: about falling behind in the installation of the defense or

1208
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: coming in and you know it's going to take your

1209
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: while to catch up and get up to speed and

1210
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: the terminology that they're using. Is that give you any concern? Well,

1211
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: I think coming from a four three last year, UM,

1212
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: I think I'll be able to fit right in. Obviously

1213
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: I had to small learning curves trying to adjust to

1214
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: the terminology, which is one thing that's always different team teams.

1215
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: But once I can get you onto the terminology and

1216
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: gets onto the thematically what they're want to do. When

1217
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: it comes on defense, I think I'll be fine. I mean,

1218
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: I am a bet so I do try to take

1219
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: ways to learn you know, my position to playbook, and

1220
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: I try to apply it no matter where the playbook gets.

1221
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: I think I'll just try to use those same techniques

1222
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: you know use and washing us and New York to

1223
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: be able to use it here, to be able to

1224
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, get myself cause to speeds quickly as possible.

1225
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: That way I can contribute and not be behind when

1226
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: it comes to training camp. And luckily for me, you'll

1227
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: start back over in training camp day one and I'll

1228
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 1: stall you know, play by play, and so it's something

1229
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: that will start on day until day said in the

1230
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: start on day one and getting me right in. Um,

1231
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: I'll be to catch up to speak as possible, just

1232
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,919
Speaker 1: like like the other guys. So um, I'm just looking

1233
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: forward to getting the play working. Um, like said, being

1234
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: those meetings and I'm ready and eager to learn. Family. Uh, Kenan,

1235
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: you have a wife and a young daughter right there,

1236
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: will they be coming to Buffalo with you? Yeah? Yeah,

1237
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: I have a walking young dallar right now, you know.

1238
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: Uh they're back in Tennessee right now, Um where removed

1239
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: and they'll be up here. You know, they'll come busity

1240
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: mere training camp. They'll come busit me that I've been

1241
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: appreciate the games. Um, you know, whenever they get the

1242
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: opportunity too. So yeah, I'm excited everything, seeing me my

1243
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: new colors and uh go to cheer me, cheer me on.

1244
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: What's your schedule for this week? I know that you

1245
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: just signed this morning. Um, talk to us a little

1246
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: bit about what you're you know, you're supposed to be

1247
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: here tomorrow to report I suppose, and how's that going

1248
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: to work for you? Coming from whatever it is you

1249
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: are you gonna make? Yeah, I know you don't have

1250
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: to walk in, but you know, telex us a little

1251
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: bit about your schedule for the next to forty eight hours.

1252
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: Up for me is I'm actually already up here in Rochester,

1253
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: so they've already got been settling and so really I'll

1254
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: just be kind of getting you know, situation to me

1255
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: familiar Rogers, the area with the campus and just um

1256
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: getting ready to her. I'm preparing myself mentally as well

1257
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: as physically, for which my mon sake becases. I mean

1258
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: drinking around water because everybody knows how camp camp saw

1259
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: and they gotta stay hired. You you got stay make

1260
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: sure you are really field. So I'll make sure that

1261
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: these next two days I do take time just being

1262
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: make sure I'm prepared physically and mentally and seeing myself

1263
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: in a good position, and as the guys roll, and

1264
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:38,919
Speaker 1: to catch up with some of the guys I played

1265
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: with in the past, and just um meet my new teammates.

1266
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about and we don't want

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Speaker 1: to keep you much longer, but you've done some offseason

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Speaker 1: work back in your hometown, Plano, Texas outside Dallas with

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Speaker 1: a food pantry there. Tell us what that's all about

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Speaker 1: and what you've done there. Keenan. Yeah, So it started

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Speaker 1: um trying thing about four or five years ago when

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Speaker 1: I was with the Redskins. And basically what I did

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Speaker 1: start out as me doing a Thanksgiving turkey drive every

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Speaker 1: year and we would go and buy turkeys, go buy

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Speaker 1: um foot back that we would put together for families

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Speaker 1: that didn't have, you know, money with our financial means

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Speaker 1: to go to provide um a meal for the families

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Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving. So we would go around and pass those

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Speaker 1: rout and about that way. Over the years, it kind

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Speaker 1: of grew to where we would contribute you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: a hundred meals or a thousand meals, and now it's

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Speaker 1: up to you know, ten thousand meals a year or

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Speaker 1: many steel pantry. And how it works is now I

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Speaker 1: donate a dollar amount and you know, depend on what

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Speaker 1: the dollar amount is, it provides a certain number of meals.

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Speaker 1: So every year we're be able to increase the dollar

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Speaker 1: amounts to provide more meals for you know, people who

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Speaker 1: are needing, people who really need help, and they don't

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Speaker 1: get to help anyone. So it's up with people like

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Speaker 1: Niether below. Films are a pigtol. I'm sorry, so feeling

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Speaker 1: off with people who can build it, provide and help

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Speaker 1: out and still to get back. And I see it.

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Speaker 1: That's something in my heart that I've always wanted to do,

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Speaker 1: and I'm always been or I've always had a helping

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Speaker 1: heart and helping hand. So I just feel like it's

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Speaker 1: my part. And I've been blessed and put incitation but

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Speaker 1: to help out and get back to others, and so

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Speaker 1: I try to do my part whenever I can. It

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Speaker 1: sounds great. You got the Lorenzo Alexander Seal of approval too,

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Speaker 1: which goes a long way in these parts. Oh yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: Well he's a great guy. Yeah, so I know that

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Speaker 1: he says some some someone good and I'm good by him.

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Speaker 1: So I'm happy to be good by him. Man, that's good.

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Speaker 1: We look forward to meet you down there. What went

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Speaker 1: down there Thursday? We look forward to saying hi, thank

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Speaker 1: you Keny for spending a few minutes with us today.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Hey, no problem, Thank you guys for

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Speaker 1: having look forward to seeing you guys. We'll see it

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Speaker 1: down there. Keenan Robinson, Bill's linebacker signing today. Spent the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years with the Giants, injured a little

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Speaker 1: bit last year. Spent a couple of years before that

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Speaker 1: with Washington. Keenan outside linebacker. Yeah, and it's interesting. He

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01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: has had some injuries during his career, but they all

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01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: been they've been soft tissue, you know, the quad recept

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Speaker 1: muscle last year and the two pectoral injuries. Those are

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Speaker 1: the ones he's missed significant time for. And he's right,

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Speaker 1: And he went into a long dissertation about, you know,

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Speaker 1: the way he's changed his training habits. And they'll tell

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01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: you know, experts will tell you, and they tell me

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Speaker 1: all the time. I hear him talking about the guys

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01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: they train. It's all about the kind of training you

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Speaker 1: do in the offseason helps keep you in the kind

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Speaker 1: of shape that will keep you from getting pulled muscles

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01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: during regular season. It is about It's about training methods

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01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: and also hydration. Like he said, he's you drink a

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Speaker 1: lot of water and stuff. But that's it's actually those

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Speaker 1: kind of injuries don't make him less durable. So he's

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Speaker 1: kind of the probably a kind of guy that you

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Speaker 1: can say, man, this guy has a chance to show

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Speaker 1: up all six teams weeks this season. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: one of those guys. I'm gonna say this. You think

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01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm crazy. We just met him obviously on the telephone,

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Speaker 1: and I'll be honest, I don't have a strong memory

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Speaker 1: of him playing with watching him to the Giants, But

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01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 1: to me, this guy could be a starter for this team.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not weak one, but look, he's gonna play opposite

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01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: Lorenzo right week, outside linebacker, will linebacker. They got Milano

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01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: coming back, and I think Milanna has a lot to offer.

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Speaker 1: But I like this guy's size, I like his experience,

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Speaker 1: and I would not be at all surprised if Keenan

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Speaker 1: Robinson doesn't challenge Matt Malanno for that starting spot. Maybe

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Speaker 1: not right away Thursday, but soon, maybe a week or

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01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: two into camp. Based on his experience, based on his size,

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Speaker 1: I think he could be a challenge. I mean who

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01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: they got over there, They got Milano, Julian Stanford, Ramona

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01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: Humber comes back. It's a position clearly where the Bills

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01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: need more numbers, more choices, I think, and Milano had

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01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 1: a good rookie year, but I would not overlook Keenan

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Speaker 1: Robinson as a challenger for I think he might be

1350
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,479
Speaker 1: more than just a depth guy, depth addition to this roster.

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01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: I think they signed him for that exact reason, No,

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01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: to start, I think they want him to challenge Milano.

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01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 1: He's bigger, They've seen him on tape. He's a professional,

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01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: he knows how to prepare it. They've probably gotten a

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Speaker 1: lot of scouting reports from coaches who have coached him

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01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: and talked to him, and they've probably given him all

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01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: they need to know. They probably have high hopes that

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01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: he comes in and absolutely steals the starting job from

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Speaker 1: a guy like Milano. I mean, look, just comparison to sake,

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Speaker 1: Matt Milano who played last year and played well, you know,

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Speaker 1: fifth round draft pick um five starts last year compared

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Speaker 1: to thirty starts in his NFL career for Keenan Robinson.

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Speaker 1: Matt Milano six foot two, twenty three. Uh, Keenan Robinson

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Speaker 1: six three two forty five. That's a difference. That's a

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Speaker 1: big It's a big difference. And it comes to stopping

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01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: the run and rains blowing and he's long arms getting

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Speaker 1: in and he said himself his strength is his coverage ability.

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Speaker 1: That Keenan Robinson tell us that, and that's exactly what

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Speaker 1: you want from the guy. So they probably want and

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Speaker 1: that's that's just basic football. You want the biggest, strongest,

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Speaker 1: best athletes you can find. And Keenan Robinson is a

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Speaker 1: bigger version of what Matt Milano does. And let's facing

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Speaker 1: Matt Malano right now. Has one thing in his favor,

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Speaker 1: experience in this defense. He had a five, like you said,

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Speaker 1: five stars last year and offseason work here in the program,

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Speaker 1: and that's what he has in his back pocket. And

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Speaker 1: also he has the coach's coaching staff here in Buffalo

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01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: knows exactly what man Melano is and what he can do.

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Speaker 1: They don't know about Keenan Robinson just yet, and they're

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Speaker 1: gonna find out. But I'm with Humurf. They're trying to

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Speaker 1: upgrade at every position, and with the defense having the

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Speaker 1: kind of statistical ear it did last year, Hey, you know,

1383
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: you better play well or you're gonna get replaced pretty

1384
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: quickly in a defense like that last year. You think

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Speaker 1: about the timing too. Now Here, he is available the

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Speaker 1: week the teams are going to camp, as he told us,

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Speaker 1: and I think I heard him correctly. I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: Keenan Robinson. He had pretty much set us up a

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Speaker 1: month ago, right, said he paid a visit up here.

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Speaker 1: So he said, I think you said something along the

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Speaker 1: lines of it's been in the works for a month,

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01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: which is okay. There's also so negotiation involved here. You know,

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01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: the bills keep him on ice for a month, wait

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01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: until they go to camp, and then finally you know,

1395
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: the two sides to get together. I've read somewhere where

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Speaker 1: it's a two year deal. It's not just a one

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01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: year tryout deal. Two years is not really that significant either.

1398
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Speaker 1: But I think there's something to foot here. I think

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Speaker 1: Keenan Robinson might have something to say about how they

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Speaker 1: line up and play on defense when the season begins

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Speaker 1: because of his experience. Look, he's not an All Pro player,

1402
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,439
Speaker 1: he's not a Pro Bowl player, but he's got thirty

1403
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: NFL starts. It's a position where they need, you know,

1404
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: depth at least and maybe an upgrade over Mat Mulatto.

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Speaker 1: I like to signing. I think it could be. It

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01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 1: could be. I could be wrong about this. I'm wrong

1407
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: about a lot. It could be a significant signing when

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Speaker 1: it's all said and done for the Bill season. And

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Speaker 1: I think the second year the contract is kind of

1410
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: an insurance policy if it does come in and he

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Speaker 1: plays it really well, well, you know, now he's not

1412
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: going to go someplace that automatically. You can kind of

1413
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 1: hang on to him, let him play that contract. How

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01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: you get at least two years out of him. And

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Speaker 1: I think they do have I think that second year

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Speaker 1: on that deal because this is a you know, we've

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Speaker 1: talked about it before. They're not a verse the sign

1418
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:01,439
Speaker 1: and a guy who a one year prove it deal.

1419
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 1: They did that a number of times last year. And

1420
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: some of those guys are back and some of them

1421
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Speaker 1: are not, and they've gone on to other things. But

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Speaker 1: this assigning him to a second year probably gives them

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Speaker 1: gives me a little bit of an insight as to

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Speaker 1: how much confidence they have it even come in and contribute.

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Speaker 1: I think they do believe just that. Keenan Robinson, new

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Speaker 1: linebacker for the Buffalo Bills. He joined us on the

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Speaker 1: Subway Fresh State Hotline, Subway Eat Fresh. Steve and I

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Speaker 1: here until three o'clock today. We're gonna talk more about

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Speaker 1: training camp. What's your favorite training camp memory with the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Give us a call eight oh three five

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show One does Live from One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. John Urfy's Steve Tasker in our one Buffalo

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01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: studio is the Bills get set to tick off for camp.

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01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: As they set to Steve at the top of the show,

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01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: a buzz in the air here at One Bills Drive.

1441
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: A lot of staff people kind of getting their act together.

1442
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: I mean you're moving the whole operation out there, and

1443
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:20,799
Speaker 1: players are here working out. Saw a couple of offensive

1444
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: linemen working out today, coaching staff packing. I'm getting ready

1445
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: to go. I think someday it's going to change. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've said that it's an expense to do all that,

1447
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 1: and they move everything because they need it. I mean,

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01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: the football end of it really needs the stuff they

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01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: need and they need it right when they need it,

1450
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: where they need it, and how they need it. So

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01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: they move it all over there, and of course they

1452
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: do pre pre trip visits. They get all that stuff

1453
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: lined out. They say, we want this here, this here,

1454
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 1: we want to put this, you know, training room here

1455
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 1: and all this and the and the facilities at Saint

1456
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:53,759
Speaker 1: John Fisher are great for that college, they're not perfect

1457
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 1: for the NFL guys. And so they move everything they

1458
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: need over there, and they you know, costs money. It

1459
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 1: takes time. Time, it's a huge pain because not only

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01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: and here's another problem with it. Yes, when training camp

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01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:10,560
Speaker 1: comes back, well, they're ready for they're getting ready for

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01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: a season, right, Yeah, So there's that kind of lag

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01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 1: between the time they can move it back and put

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01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: it in the right spot. And get everything settled back

1465
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 1: in at a time when they're trying to get ready

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01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 1: for an opening day game or their last preseason game

1467
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: and cutting down the rosters. It's there's a lag time

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01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 1: there that's a problem for him at a crucial time.

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Speaker 1: What are you trying to say, Steve, I'm not going

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01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 1: to be taking camp off site. I think they will, really,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they would be right, although Brownie and

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Speaker 1: I talked about it yesday, I'm going to disagree with

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01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 1: you a little bit because, well, first of all, they

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01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 1: have a couple of years left, at least a couple

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01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 1: of years on their deal at Saint John Fisher. When

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01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 1: May first, when the team party ways with Russ Brandon,

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01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 1: there was immediate speculation that that was it, Fisher was done,

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01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 1: which was not the case at all. I think the

1479
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: Bills have demonstrated they have a commitment to Saint John

1480
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 1: Fisher and the having camp off site. It's a short camp.

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01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: It's uh, what do we had about twelve practices and

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01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 1: a three and a half week span. I do think

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01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,719
Speaker 1: and if you we'll probably hear from Sean McDermot about

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01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: a Thursday. I think there is a benefit to being

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01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:11,719
Speaker 1: off site when it comes to team bonding and focus

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01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: at the start of camp. And look, they're back and forth.

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01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 1: They've got a practice right here in newer a field

1488
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: of you know, two fridays into it. But I disagree

1489
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: with you. I think right now, for this team, right now,

1490
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 1: who knows where the future goes, this coaching staff of

1491
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: this football department is committed to get an off site.

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01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: You know, for as I said, about three and a

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01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: half weeks. Twelve practices over three and a half weeks.

1494
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 1: I think they think it works for the football department.

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01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 1: It's more than twelve practices. Those are just the practices

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01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: that are open to the public, right they have a

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01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 1: bunch of closed practices, a fifteen practice. Yeah, it's a

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01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: lot of it's some practices. And but it is only

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01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 1: two and a half weeks. And maybe you're right, Maybe

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01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:49,600
Speaker 1: they are. They do it, and maybe they think they

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01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 1: do get some value to it. I know when they

1502
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 1: when they began doing it, it was a big boost

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01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:57,719
Speaker 1: because you know, the fans from Monroe County did start

1504
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,040
Speaker 1: buying a lot more season tickets. They did start to

1505
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 1: make a bigger footprint in the region, did the team,

1506
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: and they did get some uh some mileage out of

1507
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: an former owner, Ralph Wilson, really loved the benefit they

1508
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,600
Speaker 1: got from going to Saint John Fisher. I don't know

1509
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:15,879
Speaker 1: that they keep doing it if that benefit doesn't expand,

1510
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: or whether they think that they've they've kind of made

1511
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 1: their print there and they're going to stay there. I

1512
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 1: don't know, it seems and I don't know. Maybe it's

1513
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 1: maybe it's a drop in the bucket for what they

1514
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,679
Speaker 1: spend to go over there and the trouble it takes

1515
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 1: them to get there. Maybe they maybe it is worth

1516
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 1: it for them. You don't like camp, I'm coming to

1517
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 1: the conclusion. I think it's pretty obvious you're not a

1518
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: fan of training kid. I don't know how else do

1519
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 1: you do different training camp experience and all of us,

1520
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 1: most of us, I don't know how else they do it. Though.

1521
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta bring these guys in. You gotta

1522
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: get him going. You got to immerse them in training camp,

1523
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 1: and I think classroom and getting and getting away from

1524
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: your regular friends and family. If if they do stay

1525
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 1: in Buffalo and all that, and maybe it is a

1526
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: good thing that they go off and spend some time alone.

1527
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: You remember, back in the day used to be that

1528
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: these teams would go way away, you know. Yeah, the

1529
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs who go to Wisconsin, the Dallas Cowboys

1530
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: go to a thousand oaks, California, and all these teams

1531
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 1: would go to like way away. And I that did

1532
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 1: serve a purpose. But that was back when guys would

1533
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 1: show up to Camp Wain in twenty pounds too much

1534
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 1: and not having run a step in six months, you know,

1535
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,679
Speaker 1: so they had to spend that time getting in shape.

1536
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 1: But that's different now. It is differently. These guys got

1537
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: their own trainer that travels with them. I mean, come on,

1538
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 1: right on, staff, It's crazy. It is different. What's your

1539
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 1: favorite memory of training camp over the years as a

1540
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: Bills fan? Give us a call eight oh three five

1541
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: fifty toll free from outside Buffalo one eight eight five

1542
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty or do it on Twitter at

1543
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 1: one Bills Live. Let's take a couple of calls. Here,

1544
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 1: Bob calling from lockboard. H Bob, go ahead, you're on

1545
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 1: the air, John Steve, thank you very much. I appreciate

1546
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: getting on the program, Sank Bob. I'd bet a Bills

1547
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 1: fan for about fifty years. What I bring up two things?

1548
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 1: One I can remember going to Easter Roora watching a

1549
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 1: practice back I think it was sixty door three and

1550
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 1: put what do we remember the players changed that East

1551
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 1: Aurora High School locker rule and they used to walk

1552
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 1: over theyded have a shuttle bus. Who are still building

1553
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,679
Speaker 1: there for the players? Yeah, that's I was telling Steve.

1554
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 1: I remember reading about that too, and that's what got

1555
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 1: me that the high school in East Roa is now

1556
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 1: the middles back then it is now the middle schools

1557
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 1: round the main street, right across the street from the

1558
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 1: roycroft in Yeah, and that's where they would go to practice,

1559
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 1: and they wouldn't I guess they walk walk to the polo.

1560
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you that is not gonna fly today.

1561
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 1: Walk down the street, take a left at the light

1562
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:38,679
Speaker 1: and got to go around the traffic circle. Amazing second

1563
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 1: legs it off the traffic and again, as I told you,

1564
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 1: Stephen Bye, I told Steve this an hour ago. I

1565
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 1: was driving through the village of Vista or the other

1566
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 1: day and I had this like not a flashback because

1567
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 1: I never saw it, but just kind of an image

1568
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: of AFL players professional football players. Yes, not as big

1569
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 1: as they are now, certainly not as wealthy as they

1570
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 1: are now, but just walking down the street and the

1571
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 1: neighborhoods of eastbor I thought, what did that look like?

1572
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: How did that go? It's pretty amazing. Yeah, I'd may

1573
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: tell you my favorite experience. I've got a lot of

1574
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 1: training camps over the years. Are you still there? Yeah?

1575
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 1: Go ahead. I'm sorry, I thought we got caught off.

1576
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 1: I remember going to nie Back in seventy I think

1577
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 1: seventy or seventy one, and I was a director of

1578
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 1: a summer school program. We got a bus that took

1579
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of kids. I had teachers and teacher aids

1580
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 1: and teacher aids where college kids and we got to practice.

1581
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 1: We walked there there O. J. Simpson was a practice

1582
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: and he was observing practice up this platform about fifteen

1583
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 1: twenty feet above the practice field. And we come out

1584
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,720
Speaker 1: and stopped and looked. We saw him up there and

1585
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: we were watching the practice. He looked over and he

1586
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 1: pointed over to the where the teacher aids where he says,

1587
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 1: you come over here, I want to see you. And

1588
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: one of the age was a college kid to played

1589
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 1: football at at our school, New Fane, and Jod side buddy.

1590
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 1: He starts to running over and old Jay said, stopped

1591
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 1: not you her eight points to us. Great tractive blonde girl. Okay, okay,

1592
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 1: we'll let the story in there. Thanks you by um

1593
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 1: that happens. I guess let's go to a rose in Springville,

1594
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 1: New York. High Rose around the air. Okay, Rose, you

1595
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 1: gotta talk to us during the radio, now please. All right,

1596
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: Let's go to Pete and Saint Catherine's Ontario. Hello Pete, Hey,

1597
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,560
Speaker 1: you guys, how are you doing? Okay, I've been a

1598
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 1: long time listener and first time caller. Anyways, Uh, my

1599
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 1: memory goes back to I think sixty four. I was

1600
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 1: ten years old and my dad took my buddy and

1601
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: myself and my grandfather. He was a huge Bills fan,

1602
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:53,640
Speaker 1: and uh Battalion American was broken English and we went

1603
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 1: to Blazedell I guess it was the Roycroft and or

1604
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 1: wherever it was. And uh so we were ready to leave.

1605
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: My dad was getting Nancy. We had to get back

1606
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 1: to the falls and we couldn't find Grandpa, and uh

1607
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 1: it turns out he was. He was on the other

1608
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 1: side of the snow fence that you guys talk about,

1609
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 1: and he was talking to loose Aban and Jack Kapin

1610
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 1: and one of the receivers, and with his broken English,

1611
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't even understand them. Just I couldn't imagine the

1612
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 1: conversation that was going on between those three or four guys.

1613
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 1: And uh, anyways, we rounded them up and we head

1614
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 1: back to the falls and wow, that's my memory. Gaul

1615
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 1: wandered onto the practice field and started talking to Loose

1616
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 1: Saban and a couple of guys on the Wall of fame.

1617
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 1: That's pretty funny, that's pretty cool if he yeah, and

1618
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 1: you know, I don't um. Yeah, Blaisdell was Exit fifty seven.

1619
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: It's right around the corner. Yeah, And there was a hotel.

1620
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 1: It's not there now, it's a hotel. There was a

1621
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 1: hotel there, yeah, called Exit fifty seven, I think, but

1622
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 1: it was some other name to it too. My only

1623
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 1: I never went there for practice. My only memory of that,

1624
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 1: and it had to be early sixties, right, was driving

1625
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 1: by on my way, probably just Chautauk with Lake as

1626
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 1: a little kid, seeing the bills off and they were

1627
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 1: literally off the side of the True Way practicing and

1628
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,560
Speaker 1: say we got to stop, we gotta stop. Stop, you

1629
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 1: keep going down. Stop, We're not stopping. What is that

1630
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 1: your folks? Knew better late later. I made spent enough

1631
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 1: time at Niagara Camp that I saw enough training camp.

1632
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 1: Wayne on the line from West Seneca. Hello, Wayne, welcome

1633
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 1: to the show. Up. Always loved us show. You know

1634
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 1: I remember Wayne, you gotta talk to us. Please turn

1635
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 1: down your radio. Okay, sorry, no problem, just makes it

1636
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 1: hard for everyone Talk show one. Remember seeing Durwin Thomas

1637
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 1: and Leonard Smith when they were hit training camp and

1638
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: for Donia. You know, it was just they were the

1639
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 1: greatest guys am in the Sunset Baby Each Club. I

1640
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:51,679
Speaker 1: still have the napkin that they gave autographs for Sunset

1641
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 1: Baby Beach Club. Yeah, that was his rookie year, him

1642
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:58,640
Speaker 1: and Leonard Smith. Okay, there you go. Oh that was

1643
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 1: it was fum us guys. We bent them and drinks

1644
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 1: him stuff if they're a really good guy. Yes, thanks,

1645
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 1: Twain say he's had some nice memories of that. I

1646
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 1: have a free known your memory, Steve, May I share

1647
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 1: this with you. I had more training camp memories than

1648
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:15,919
Speaker 1: I thought it had to be. Late eighties. Bill Polly's

1649
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 1: general manager of the bills. He bills here till what

1650
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 1: ninety two, I think, and free agency is on the

1651
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 1: table in the NFL, and you know how it started

1652
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 1: out with Plan B and sure, and Bill was like

1653
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 1: one of the architects of that. But we had late

1654
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 1: night discussions in the in the lounges there in the

1655
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: dorm area, and for I think I was doing radio

1656
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: and night back then, so I remember that's where I

1657
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 1: first saw you. Yeah, we were sitting right there in

1658
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: the lobby as Yeah, we'd come in and go to

1659
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 1: our rooms. You were sitting off on a at an

1660
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: old table. Yeah, And I think I had after the

1661
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 1: show one night, I don't remember what time the show

1662
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 1: went off the air, but a long discussion with Bill

1663
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 1: Poling about free agency, his theory of free agency, how

1664
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 1: it might ruin the NFL if not done correctly. Well,

1665
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,719
Speaker 1: of course he got maybe this is early nineties, because

1666
01:19:58,040 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 1: he got let go by the Bills went to work

1667
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:01,840
Speaker 1: for the league and basically helped put together Plan B

1668
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:05,560
Speaker 1: and all of that plan and laid the groundwork for

1669
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 1: the rules that would govern Jacksonville and Carolina coming into

1670
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: the league as well. Yeah, I just always recall when

1671
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 1: that was going out in the league, thinking about how

1672
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 1: the conversations I had with Polion, who you know, is

1673
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 1: extremely bright. He's a bit of a you know, a

1674
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,640
Speaker 1: visionary I think as far as what football is. I mean,

1675
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 1: he's doing it now with that Alliance of American Football.

1676
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 1: He's a visionary. He not just sees how the game is,

1677
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 1: he sees what it might be. And he kind of

1678
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 1: outlined some of that how free agency might work three

1679
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 1: four or five years before it actually happened. There's a

1680
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 1: reason that young guys don't kind of do the stuff

1681
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 1: that Bill Polian does because he has such a depth

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01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 1: of knowledge not only about how the league is now,

1683
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: but how it got there and why it evolved away

1684
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,520
Speaker 1: from the problems it had early in its in its infancy,

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01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 1: how it evolved into what it is today and the

1686
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 1: direction they foresaw it going and then you know, to

1687
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 1: alter that course if need be, and the reason you

1688
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 1: don't want to go backwards, you know, and guys like

1689
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 1: Bill Polian hoot, and you're right, he's the architect of

1690
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:10,720
Speaker 1: the new afluh that's that's coming around in February. But

1691
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:15,719
Speaker 1: his ability to see ahead of the game, um was legendary.

1692
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 1: It's what led to him being in the Hall of Fame.

1693
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: And uh he was. He was always and there were

1694
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 1: certain things that he was adamant about and you've had

1695
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 1: disagreements with him too. Him vain comes out. He was, yeah,

1696
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 1: he has a temper that that's legendary. But you're right,

1697
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 1: he's in the Hall of Fame for a reason. And

1698
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 1: when he had a chance to talk to him about

1699
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 1: stuff in football, he's already had those conversations. You can

1700
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 1: tell he's had these conversations with other guys about the

1701
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: same thing. And we're talking about safety issues. Where back

1702
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 1: for the helmet rule coming in, they've talked about that.

1703
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 1: He talked about what they're gonna do with the field

1704
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 1: size in the NFL and how it affected things and

1705
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 1: what stadiums could handle it, which ones couldn't. He's they've

1706
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 1: had all those conversations and Bill in his time with

1707
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 1: the league and now subsequently with other places with ESPN

1708
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 1: Carolina with a listening out the ESPN, he's he's in

1709
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:11,679
Speaker 1: the middle of high level conversation. It's fun to talk

1710
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 1: to him. It's fun. I had disagreeance with him that

1711
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 1: night and made it memorable. So the radio show's over,

1712
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 1: and I was a young guy. I was like, well,

1713
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 1: players should be able to have the freedom to go

1714
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 1: wherever they want free agency. Of course they have to

1715
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 1: have the freedom. And Bill was, you know, pounding the table. No, no,

1716
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 1: this is why we got to do it this way,

1717
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 1: this way, and he was right, he was right. The

1718
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 1: night went on till late, like eleven thirty midnight ers,

1719
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 1: so there may have been an occasional cannibier involved. But

1720
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 1: it was a great discussion, and he basically four years

1721
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 1: before free agency began in the league, he kind of

1722
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 1: outlined to me how it would work, and he was right. Yeah,

1723
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 1: I was wrong. It's not like baseball free agency. They

1724
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 1: see it coming down the road, yea, and they're out

1725
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 1: ahead of it. But you know there's certain things that

1726
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 1: they throw them curveballs. But they thought everything out, no

1727
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 1: question about it. All right, what's your favorite memory as

1728
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 1: a fan going to Bill's training camp. We'll get back

1729
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:57,639
Speaker 1: to more phone calls in a moment, Plus we'll read

1730
01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 1: some of the tweets that have come in. Coming up

1731
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 1: at two o'clock today, I got a guess Mike Renner

1732
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 1: from Pro Football Focus is gonna talk some Bills issues

1733
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 1: with us about the Buffalo's defensive backfield and other issues.

1734
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: Coming up at two thirty today, I'm gonna talk with

1735
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 1: Greg Connors from Connors and Ferris fifth consecutive year. They

1736
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 1: are the training camp sponsor, the official training camp sponsor

1737
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills. But more of your thoughts when

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01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 1: we return talking about your favorite memory at Bills training camp.

1739
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 1: Poll lines open eight oh three five fifty and toll

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01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight by fifty two five fifty

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live. John Murphy, Steve Tasker from One Bill's Driving.

1742
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. John Murphy, Seve Tasker, back

1743
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 1: together again. You got a few more days off coming up,

1744
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 1: but for the most part you'll be with us, right,

1745
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 1: don't look at me, you get me the thick guy. Yeah,

1746
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:55,680
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right, John Murphy. I do have some

1747
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 1: days of almost done. I'm almost done. I'm almost I

1748
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 1: got like three more days off before the start of

1749
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: the regular season. And because we miss you, Steve. When

1750
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: you're out here, I know, yeah, you know, I know,

1751
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 1: the wheels are completely have come off when I'm not here.

1752
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I didn't say that. But we like

1753
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 1: having you around. We you know, we got like doing

1754
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 1: and it's I like my work. I'm a happy camper.

1755
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 1: It's not like I'm not happy but I got I

1756
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 1: got stuff that I'm required due mitted, I know with

1757
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 1: you know amazing. So what am I gonna do a

1758
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 1: couple of things. We're going to get back to calls

1759
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: and discussion about your favorite Bill's training camp memory. A

1760
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 1: couple of things I want to run value. Jimmy Garoppolo, Um,

1761
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 1: talk to a Bleacher Report. Um, and it's it's become

1762
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 1: a little tempest here. I don't know how this became

1763
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 1: his mindset during his time as the backup to Tom

1764
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 1: Brady in New England. The quote was from Garoppolo to

1765
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 1: a Bleacher Report quote, I knew that Brady was better

1766
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 1: than me in my first day in the NFL. Naturally,

1767
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 1: you're the rookie needs the veteran, but you have to

1768
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 1: have that mindset that you want to be the starter. Um.

1769
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 1: I would. I always think that. It's like when I'm

1770
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 1: going into England, when I first got there, I thought,

1771
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,679
Speaker 1: in my head, I'm better than this dude. Garoppolo says

1772
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 1: he thought it. His said he was better than Brady.

1773
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 1: People are some people are making a big deal out

1774
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 1: jump and I'm like, come on, man, that's the way.

1775
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:13,560
Speaker 1: That's people who are jumping up and down making a

1776
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 1: big deal out of that are people who've never competed.

1777
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 1: They're you know, they're people who sit on the fence

1778
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 1: of life. When you're in there, When you're in there

1779
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 1: and you're gonna play and you're putting a helmet on,

1780
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 1: you gotta think, I'm gonna do this. I'm the guy,

1781
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 1: I'm better than him, and I'm gonna prove it. That's

1782
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:29,759
Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter if it's Tom Brady, Joe Montan

1783
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 1: or Jim Kelly or Joe or Dan Marino or Dan

1784
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,719
Speaker 1: you know, uh, John Elway. You gotta if you're backing

1785
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 1: him up, you gotta think, you know, there I I'm

1786
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 1: gonna be better than this guy, watch me. That's the

1787
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 1: mentality you have. And and to have people you know,

1788
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 1: up at like whoop, you know, throwing sirens up in

1789
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: the air and going crazy over this is stupid. That's

1790
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,680
Speaker 1: not Garoppolo's he knows. And I'll tell you what if

1791
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:55,679
Speaker 1: you read that to Tom Brady, Tom Brady go, yeah,

1792
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's the way I was with Drew Bledsoe,

1793
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 1: you know, and Tom Brady proof he was right. Do

1794
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 1: you think about that? Yeah, nobody would raise an eyebrow

1795
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 1: if Tom Brady said, three years into us, and I

1796
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 1: knew I was better than Drew bloods of the day

1797
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:10,600
Speaker 1: I walked in here. I knew he was better than

1798
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 1: me the first day, but I thought, I'm better than

1799
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 1: this guy. I'm gonna prove it. Everybody would have laughed

1800
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 1: at him. That's listen, you forget Drew Bledsoe went down

1801
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 1: to that injury to Moe Lewis two days after he

1802
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 1: signed one hundred and ten million dollar deal to play

1803
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 1: quarterback for the New England Patriots. He never saw the

1804
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 1: field again for them. So that's the way the players think.

1805
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 1: And to sit here and even make it a story,

1806
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 1: is him been hanging around enough? Garoppolo said, we got along,

1807
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: me and Brady, but there were always times who wanted

1808
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 1: to kill each other. It was a healthy competitive relationship.

1809
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:47,679
Speaker 1: Here's something new. Adam Schefter rams and running back Todd

1810
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 1: Gurley finalizing agrayment on a four year extension for Gurley

1811
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 1: worth sixty million dollars. It includes forty five million guaranteed

1812
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 1: ties him to LA for the next six seasons, and

1813
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,719
Speaker 1: Schefter goes on to say, finally a deal that resets

1814
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,679
Speaker 1: the running back market. That's a big deal. Four years

1815
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 1: sixty million. That's a lot of money too, that's fifteen

1816
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 1: million a year. Rus and the Rams, the Rams continue

1817
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 1: to go down that train track of of super Bowl

1818
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 1: or Bust and Girl being the next guy that they

1819
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 1: tied up for long term Aaron Donald. I don't think

1820
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:22,680
Speaker 1: there's any question Aaron Donald is not going to be

1821
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 1: there past this year. I just don't think they'll they'll

1822
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 1: get it. They're not going to get a deal done.

1823
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 1: I don't know what his contract is, but he's on

1824
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 1: his way out. They're not gonna be able to sign him.

1825
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: They won't have enough money under the cap to sign

1826
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 1: an Aaron Donald for the kind of money he's going

1827
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 1: to command. It's amazing money for a running back. Amazing money, yeah,

1828
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 1: it is. And Levon Bell has got to be sitting back.

1829
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 1: And this is how I don't give me the numbers again.

1830
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 1: Four years, sixty million, forty five million guaranteed. Well, that's

1831
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 1: not that Levion Bell was offered a deal better than

1832
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:56,639
Speaker 1: that seventy million million a year, wasn't he? It was more? Yeah,

1833
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking. They never see that money. Bell's

1834
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 1: averaged out. Tim be the the the offer I think

1835
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 1: was about thirteen million. Now you got an offer the

1836
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 1: average here of fifteen million. Okay, crazy, crazy, Now Levion's

1837
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 1: going to be unhappy going into training camp for the

1838
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. He's he's gonna get four hundred touches this

1839
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 1: year and then be used up and he will never

1840
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 1: see another down in the NFL. And that they're gonna

1841
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 1: use him up. I'm telling you he's not going to

1842
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 1: be a Steeler the next year after this one, and

1843
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: they're gonna use every bit of gas in his tank

1844
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:30,679
Speaker 1: if they can. Talking to you about your favorite memories

1845
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: from Bill's training camp, A call here from Mark and Buffalo. Mark,

1846
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:36,679
Speaker 1: what do you got? What do you remember? Well? Two things.

1847
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 1: One wasn't a motel on eggs to fifty seven the Regency. Yes,

1848
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,679
Speaker 1: I think you're right, right, yep, I was, Okay, mine

1849
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 1: was one of the best. I was a kid. I

1850
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 1: can't even tell the year, Maybe the year Oja was

1851
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 1: a rookie. I'm thinking it was. Anyway, one year they

1852
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 1: were at Holton Park on Clinton Street and they used

1853
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 1: the shelter house over there their dressing room. We go

1854
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:01,639
Speaker 1: in there. There was no secure already, their helmets, their pads,

1855
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 1: everything you could put everything on. We never stole nothing,

1856
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 1: but that's my memory. It was just great. Why were

1857
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 1: they over at Houghton Park. I have no idea why

1858
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 1: they were there. I don't know if when they were

1859
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 1: in transition from the Regency to Niagara, I remember they

1860
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 1: were there for a little while. I don't know if

1861
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 1: force for the whole training champ for a few weeks

1862
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 1: or what. I don't recall that. There are a couple

1863
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 1: of times in Rochester, not recently see but in the

1864
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 1: early days at Saint John Fisher where rain forced the

1865
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:33,480
Speaker 1: bills to take I remember a couple of nighttime practices

1866
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 1: over to East Rochester High School kind of around the corner.

1867
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it was totally unplanned. It was like,

1868
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 1: all right, getting the bus, we're going around the corner.

1869
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 1: Even now and that was only fifteen years ago, maybe

1870
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 1: you feel like you would never see that sort of

1871
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 1: spontaneity nowadays. You know, yeah, you're right, everything's planned and

1872
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 1: well it has to be. But yeah, the difference is

1873
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:57,640
Speaker 1: the security is one thing. And you got We've got

1874
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,160
Speaker 1: all kinds of tweets from people who were there with

1875
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:06,640
Speaker 1: him and kids like kids, uh meeting these guys like

1876
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 1: it back in the day when who wasn't took it

1877
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 1: took his two dog. Let's see what was I was

1878
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 1: just remember first camper? Who was? I can't remember. I

1879
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 1: just saw this tweet. Maybe it was on the on

1880
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 1: the lot Here we go training camp member whose players

1881
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:21,599
Speaker 1: used to share dorms at Niagara University with youth basketball campers,

1882
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:23,759
Speaker 1: so they would be one wing and the youth basketball

1883
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 1: camp being the other wing. But rode the elevator once

1884
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,560
Speaker 1: with Joejla Malure and Joe d was wearing shorts and

1885
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 1: a T shirt. He looked like a tank, but he's

1886
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 1: really cordial. A thrill for a young Bills fan. So

1887
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Speaker 1: getting at elevator where a guy in his off time

1888
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:38,599
Speaker 1: at training camp, they got people living, they got other

1889
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Speaker 1: like campers, campers living with pro football players. That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. It is amazing. All right, a break right

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Speaker 1: here when we come back. Mike Renner, who is Pro

1892
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Speaker 1: Football Focus senior analysts. He says the Buffalo Bills defensive

1893
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 1: backfield is the seventh best defensive backfield in the NFL.

1894
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,679
Speaker 1: He says the New York Jets are the improved team

1895
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 1: in the AFC. He's got a lot of takes from

1896
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Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus and Mike Runner will be joining us

1897
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Speaker 1: when we come back. One hour ago, John Murphy, Steve

1898
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Speaker 1: Tasker here One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. This

1899
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio, Hello Hills Radio Network Stories update

1900
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:29,679
Speaker 1: the update from One Bill's Drive. The Bills leave tomorrow.

1901
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 1: Most of them report tomorrow to Bill's training camp for

1902
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 1: the nineteenth consecutive year at Saint John Fisher College in Rochester.

1903
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 1: They're on the field Thursday, five thirty pm. You need

1904
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 1: a ticket for that practice. To tails on how to

1905
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 1: get tickets and which practices are ticketed available on our website,

1906
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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills dot com. The Bills filled up their roster

1907
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 1: to ninety with signing a linebacker today, Venteran Keenan Robinson

1908
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:54,160
Speaker 1: signed just a couple of days for training camp. On

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Speaker 1: the show with this last hour. Five year veteran twenty

1910
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Speaker 1: nine years old, played for the Giants last year. His

1911
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 1: season cuts short after he appeared in just six games.

1912
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Speaker 1: He had a quad injury to put him on the

1913
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Speaker 1: injury reserve. Keenan Robinson, the newest Buffalo Bill, expected to

1914
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Speaker 1: be in camp when they hit the field on Thursday.

1915
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Speaker 1: The Los Angeles Rams doing business signing up their key players.

1916
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Speaker 1: Adam Schefter reporting that the Rams and running back Todd

1917
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 1: Gurley are finalizing agreement on a four year extension worth

1918
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Speaker 1: sixty million dollars. It includes forty five million guaranteed. It

1919
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:27,799
Speaker 1: ties Gurley to LA for the next six seasons. Schefter

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Speaker 1: says the deal will reset the running back market in

1921
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:34,599
Speaker 1: the NFL for players like Ezekiel Elliott and others. Wide

1922
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Speaker 1: receiver Julio Jones is not going to report the training

1923
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:40,719
Speaker 1: camp for the Atlanta Falcons. He wants a new contract. Falcons,

1924
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Speaker 1: aware of his plan, are not ready to give him

1925
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Speaker 1: a new contract. He could be fine up to forty

1926
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars for each day he misses. Falcons first practice

1927
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:51,439
Speaker 1: day is Friday. Julio Jones just got a five year,

1928
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:54,879
Speaker 1: seventy one million dollars deal in two fifteen that included

1929
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 1: a twelve million dollars signing bonus. Patriots reportedly shopping wide

1930
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 1: receiver on the tide market. Third year man Malcolm Mitchell,

1931
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Speaker 1: a fourth round pick in twenty sixteen out of Georgia,

1932
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 1: played a key role in New England's comeback in Super

1933
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:09,960
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty one. Five catches in the second half as

1934
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 1: the Patriots came back from that depicit. Mitchell coming back

1935
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:14,559
Speaker 1: from a knee injury now it kept him out all

1936
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:17,839
Speaker 1: last year. He's been around the Patriots scene facility all offseason.

1937
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 1: But New England reportedly ready to entertain trade offers for

1938
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Speaker 1: Malcolm Mitchell. That is the update from One Bill's Drive.

1939
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker in our one Buffalo studio days

1940
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Speaker 1: away now from Bill's training camp, joining us on the

1941
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Speaker 1: Subway Fresh Take hotline. A guy who writes about football

1942
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Speaker 1: all season long. He is senior analyst at Pro Football Focus.

1943
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Speaker 1: He's been with Pro Football Focus since two twelve. Happy

1944
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:42,320
Speaker 1: to have Mike Grinner on the line with us. Mike,

1945
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:44,720
Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Tasker in Buffalo, thank you very

1946
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:48,560
Speaker 1: much for joining us. We appreciate him. Hey, want to

1947
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Speaker 1: ask you about a variety of things you've written about,

1948
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 1: including the Rams. We just mentioned the Todd Gurley deal

1949
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 1: that it reportedly is in the work. And you wrote

1950
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: a recent post about a week and a half maybe

1951
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:01,719
Speaker 1: two weeks ago at Pro Football Focus about Sean McVay

1952
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 1: and now he is the key figure out there. Can

1953
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 1: you tell us about that they've got weapons on offense?

1954
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 1: But you happen to think that McVeagh is the guy

1955
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 1: who makes it all work. Huh yeah. I mean you

1956
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 1: just look at how Gurley performed two years ago compared

1957
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:17,520
Speaker 1: to this past season, and a lot of that's just utilization,

1958
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 1: because you know, even this past season, he wasn't good

1959
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 1: between the tackles runner. He just did not run between

1960
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 1: the tackles nearly as often as he had in the past.

1961
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:28,600
Speaker 1: I think he averaged under four yards per carry on,

1962
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 1: you know, inside dune runs sort of like downhill runs

1963
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Speaker 1: that are so they you'd think a big guy like him,

1964
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 1: you know, two hundred and thirty pounds would excel at

1965
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 1: That's not really his skill set. He's more of a

1966
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 1: guy who excels out in space. And that's why he

1967
01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:41,600
Speaker 1: was such a good kick returner back at Georgia and

1968
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 1: why uh you know, Sean McVay realized that they got

1969
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 1: him out in space more of this past year than

1970
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 1: ever in the past, and that's why he had a

1971
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 1: career here and that's why such a weapon for that offense.

1972
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:52,560
Speaker 1: You also mentioned a couple of things about McVay and

1973
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:55,679
Speaker 1: how he structured the offense. Really for golf, the quarterback,

1974
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:57,640
Speaker 1: they went no huddle a lot more than they did

1975
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 1: under Jeff Fisher. They used different form Asian stacks, bunches,

1976
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. They use play action to their

1977
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 1: advantage and screens. But I think one of the things

1978
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Speaker 1: that you mentioned a great deal that's intriguing to me,

1979
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Speaker 1: and I've heard in another number of places teams are

1980
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Speaker 1: starting to get the play to their quarterback very early

1981
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 1: in the clock or just after the play is over,

1982
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 1: so that the coach can talk to the quarterback while

1983
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 1: he's under center or while he's in shotgun and the

1984
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 1: defense is deployed. And McVeagh did that better than anybody. Yeah,

1985
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 1: that com system cuts off its fifteen seconds. So if

1986
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:31,800
Speaker 1: you're up at the line and you can see, you know,

1987
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:34,640
Speaker 1: defense declares before that you get you can have a

1988
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 1: coach and can have you know, whoever's up in the

1989
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 1: booth telling you you know, what the read is, what

1990
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 1: you should be going for, what the check should be.

1991
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 1: That sort of thing. I think in the past you've

1992
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 1: always seen in the NFL level, at least no huddle

1993
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 1: being something that only the most veteran quarterbacks can handle,

1994
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 1: only the guys who have complete master of the playbook

1995
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 1: can execute. Whereas you know, mcvead took a new spin

1996
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:56,040
Speaker 1: on that and said, I'm going to use it to

1997
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Speaker 1: actually help a young quarterback. I'm going to use the

1998
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 1: snow huddle to give my back to reads. And it

1999
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:03,639
Speaker 1: was pretty innovative and that's why he was. I think

2000
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 1: golf had the second most yards in no huddle last year,

2001
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:08,519
Speaker 1: and it wasn't like they were coming from behind and

2002
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:10,280
Speaker 1: needed to know huddle. They just did it, you know,

2003
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 1: at random in games stealth mount Like, does that mean that,

2004
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:17,320
Speaker 1: by necessity the play calls coming from the sidelines are simpler?

2005
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:22,080
Speaker 1: I think yeah, I think any I think it does. Yeah.

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01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 1: In the NFL today, a lot of a lot of

2007
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 1: thinks you have to keep simple because because there are

2008
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,560
Speaker 1: so many people use so many different concepts, and the

2009
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 1: playbooks are so dense and so thick that you have

2010
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Speaker 1: to be able to communicate one thing by the simple

2011
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 1: play call. Like you said, they need to be simple,

2012
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Speaker 1: especially in that huddle, because you're only going to have

2013
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 1: a few seconds to get that play call a cross

2014
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:44,639
Speaker 1: and get the check a cross because you get the audible.

2015
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I do think simple is usually better one

2016
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Speaker 1: can place. Yeah, one of the other things that you

2017
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Speaker 1: wrote about is the most improved team from every division,

2018
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Speaker 1: And certainly it's been a really eventful offseason with the

2019
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Speaker 1: draft and the quarterbacks that were picked up, all the

2020
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 1: jockeying for draft pick position in the first round that

2021
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 1: happened in the AFC East. Yeah, the Jets being one

2022
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:08,559
Speaker 1: of those teams is kind of take a giant leap forward.

2023
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:11,599
Speaker 1: What do you think the main reason for the Jets

2024
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:14,760
Speaker 1: resurgence or the ones that at least being the most

2025
01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 1: improved team in that division? What do you what are

2026
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 1: the reasons for that? It was almost by default. I

2027
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 1: think it's one in that division sort of went backwards.

2028
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 1: A ton of talent. The Bill has obviously lost Tyrod Taylor,

2029
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 1: question marks at the quarterback position. The Jets, you know,

2030
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 1: they got the quarterback, they got Sam Darnolds, they got

2031
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:35,599
Speaker 1: that guy, and they signed this cornerback in Treman Johnson.

2032
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 1: When there was a cornerback market, they really didn't have

2033
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 1: a ton of talent on it. So just those two

2034
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 1: pieces alone I think got them better. But like I

2035
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 1: mentioned it, I don't expect the Jets to be exceptionally better.

2036
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:47,599
Speaker 1: I don't think that's even close to a playoff caliber team.

2037
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 1: But it was basically by default because the rest of

2038
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:52,400
Speaker 1: the AFT sort of stagnated the saucer though. Yeah, we

2039
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:54,880
Speaker 1: were talking about that before the show. We said, well,

2040
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 1: who would you pick in the a FC East. You know,

2041
01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 1: it's hard to argue than anybody got significant better. Does

2042
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 1: Darnold look like a difference maker? Do you think? I mean?

2043
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 1: Is he projected as a difference maker for the Jets,

2044
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 1: if not right away, at least some point down the

2045
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 1: road for them. Yeah, I'm not sure right away because

2046
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,400
Speaker 1: he had very much struggle with times. Was his decision

2047
01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 1: making at USC? I thought a lot of that was

2048
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:19,640
Speaker 1: due to the offense he was there, very pretty much

2049
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:21,920
Speaker 1: uncreative compared to a lot of the offenses that these

2050
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:25,639
Speaker 1: quarterbacks were running this past year. You know, college quarterbacks,

2051
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:28,839
Speaker 1: college systems in general. The USC system was very bland,

2052
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:31,439
Speaker 1: I thought. But still decision making issues and a lot

2053
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:34,000
Speaker 1: of bad turn of where he throws there make you

2054
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 1: think that that transition could be a little rocky to

2055
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:38,720
Speaker 1: the NFL. But I love his accuracy, I love his

2056
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:41,439
Speaker 1: big throws down the field, and I think those both

2057
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:44,720
Speaker 1: those things tend to translate well to the NFL level.

2058
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:46,600
Speaker 1: Why might not see year one. I do think he

2059
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 1: is going to be I thought he was franchise quarterback,

2060
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:51,040
Speaker 1: and I thought they were very smart, and I thought

2061
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:52,720
Speaker 1: they were lucky to get him as a third overall pick,

2062
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:54,760
Speaker 1: to be honest, And I just want to ask you

2063
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 1: about one other team in this list of the most

2064
01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 1: improved teams by division in the AMC North, You've got

2065
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:03,760
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, and you write the Browns arguably had

2066
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 1: a greater influx of talent than any team in the

2067
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:09,439
Speaker 1: NFL this offseason. They needed that, didn't they? Well, is

2068
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:12,679
Speaker 1: it enough to make a difference for them? Yeah? They arent.

2069
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 1: I mean anything's going to make a difference. I think,

2070
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 1: you know, one win is going to already be a difference.

2071
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:20,360
Speaker 1: But I do think they have crept back towards at

2072
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 1: least an average sort of team. I think they're in

2073
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 1: the sixth eight win range this season because Tyrod Taylor

2074
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 1: is such a significant upgrade over to Sean Keyser. And

2075
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:31,560
Speaker 1: even if if it's Baker Mayfield, that's even probably a

2076
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:34,040
Speaker 1: better thing because that means he's they think he's an

2077
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 1: upgrade over you know, Tyrod Taylor as well. So I

2078
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 1: do think the Browns, you know, adding Jarvis Landry. Just

2079
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:43,320
Speaker 1: getting Josh Gordon back now for a full season, adding

2080
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 1: what they did to their secondary, it's they're at least

2081
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:48,439
Speaker 1: going to be Compton. I don't. I think they had

2082
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:50,799
Speaker 1: a long way to go though, to begin with, obviously

2083
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:52,800
Speaker 1: going on in sixteen a season to go though. One

2084
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 1: of the things also you said about one of those

2085
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:59,639
Speaker 1: improving teams that it makes good sense in the NFC

2086
01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:02,400
Speaker 1: North with Green Bay if Aaron Rodgers is healthy, they're

2087
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 1: a significantly better team automatically, And I think that's easy.

2088
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 1: I was, but they kind of the chic dark horse

2089
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 1: pick in that division. Into Chicago Bears with Mitch Trubisky

2090
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 1: and the coaching change, a lot of people think they're

2091
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 1: going to take a big leap forward. And I get

2092
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:19,040
Speaker 1: the Otter Rodgers factor in this all in this whole thing,

2093
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:21,560
Speaker 1: but how good can the Bears be this year with

2094
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:24,640
Speaker 1: Mitch Trubisky and a new coaching change. Will they be

2095
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 1: significantly better even if they don't catch up to Green

2096
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 1: Bay in Minnesota? Yeah, I think they will be significantly better.

2097
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:32,880
Speaker 1: But that's the thing that's they're in a division with Minnesota,

2098
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Speaker 1: Green Bay and Detroit and even just the NFC in general,

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01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:38,439
Speaker 1: where it could be tough to get to eight wins

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01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:42,559
Speaker 1: just because there's so much talent on that in that conference.

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01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:45,800
Speaker 1: But I do think Trubisky sort of is almost under

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01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 1: it at this point because of you know how bad

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01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:49,800
Speaker 1: a staff book in the numbers look from season and go.

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Speaker 1: But when you just watch the tape, he really had

2105
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 1: no shot. The offense was a version of an NFL offense.

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01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 1: They really never opened it up. He had no talents,

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01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of playmakers on the outside. And

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01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 1: now you bring in the guy like Allen Robins and

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01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 1: hopefully Kevin White comes back. Helsey, you bring in the

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01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 1: Taylor Gabriel and Anthony Biller in the draft. You finally

2111
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 1: have weapons. You have a play caller in that Naggie

2112
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:12,639
Speaker 1: who is much more willing to throw the ball downfield.

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01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:15,840
Speaker 1: He got Alx Smith to change from his conservative ways

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01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:18,360
Speaker 1: to the you know, the most prolific d pastor in

2115
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 1: the NFL season ago. So I think there's a reason

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01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 1: to believe that this offense will be much better in

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01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:25,879
Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen. Know how much better? I that's difficult

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01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 1: to say. And we'll be close to you know, the

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01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 1: Vikings or the Packers in terms of offense. Overall team talent,

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01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 1: I don't think they are, but I do think they'll

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01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:38,720
Speaker 1: be much improved, at least talking about improved teams in

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01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 1: each NFL division. Our guest is Mike Grinner, senior reporter

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01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 1: for Pro Football Focus. It sounds like you look at

2124
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 1: the NFC East a little bit like the AFCAS. You

2125
01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 1: pick the Giants, but you say there de facto winners.

2126
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 1: No one survived the offseason unscathed. I happen to believe

2127
01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:56,080
Speaker 1: in the Giants a little bit this year, and you

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01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 1: kind of bolster my argument there. I think the Giants

2129
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 1: are in prepping for a pretty good season. Here, Mike,

2130
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:06,560
Speaker 1: what do you think? I struggle with that, for I

2131
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:08,120
Speaker 1: do think they got a lot better, and it's hard

2132
01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:09,840
Speaker 1: to get worse. It's considering how far you know how

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01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 1: bad they were. Seeds got there number two of all

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01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 1: pick obviously, and it's sort of like the Jets that

2135
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:16,439
Speaker 1: they were at the fact a winner in that. You know,

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01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 1: the Eagles, Redskins, Cowboys sort of cant down the road

2137
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:23,519
Speaker 1: this off season. But I will say they have probably

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01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:25,880
Speaker 1: one of the worst five offensive lines in the NFC,

2139
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 1: probably one of the worst five defensive lines in the

2140
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:30,560
Speaker 1: NFC and then one of the five worse quarterbacks in

2141
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 1: the NFSC at that point, I don't see how you

2142
01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:36,600
Speaker 1: win with that. That's just difficult, to be difficult. I

2143
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:38,800
Speaker 1: could see the thing much improved, you know, six to eight,

2144
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:41,000
Speaker 1: six to eight, win, five to win, something like that,

2145
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:44,760
Speaker 1: But I don't see how they could realistically sacked in

2146
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 1: the playoffs with no pass rush of the leaky offensive

2147
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 1: line still and Eli Manning playing the way he has

2148
01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 1: a quarterback, even with as good as they should be

2149
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:54,719
Speaker 1: at skull psistance. Yeah, you take that all into account

2150
01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 1: as a lot of those it brings up a lot

2151
01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:58,679
Speaker 1: of questions that you know only now. I was training

2152
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:00,680
Speaker 1: camp begins when we begin to get to answers too.

2153
01:43:01,439 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 1: But let's say talk about some of the things that

2154
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 1: are happening off the field. I want to ask you

2155
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:09,560
Speaker 1: about some notable holdouts. Julio Jones is not going to

2156
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 1: show up to training camp, and everybody knows it. He's

2157
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:15,840
Speaker 1: not made any bones about it. He just signed an

2158
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 1: extension in twenty fifteen for seventy five million. Does he

2159
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 1: have does he really have reason to be unhappy with

2160
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:25,720
Speaker 1: how he's being compensated for what he's doing? I mean,

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01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 1: he has a reason to be unhappy, but the person

2162
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:29,519
Speaker 1: you should be unhappy with as his agent, for you know,

2163
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 1: telling him that that was a good deal to sign

2164
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:34,280
Speaker 1: in the first place. You know, with the way the

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01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 1: Salad Caps am going anything longer than a two to

2166
01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:39,280
Speaker 1: three year deal, and you're probably costing yourself money as

2167
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:43,400
Speaker 1: an NFL player at this point, Um don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: see any way that the Falcons ree negotiate it, though,

2169
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:48,240
Speaker 1: because they have all the levershire I mean three two

2170
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:50,439
Speaker 1: years into a five year deal. If you renegotiate that,

2171
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:52,720
Speaker 1: you're going to get every you know, everyone their mother

2172
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:55,640
Speaker 1: holding out, and you know in an upcoming years you

2173
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:58,680
Speaker 1: lose all, you lose all levers organizations. And so I

2174
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 1: think they'll stand pat long as fossible. And I don't

2175
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:03,559
Speaker 1: see that really all might skip a game or two,

2176
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:05,840
Speaker 1: but he's gonna don't see. I don't think anyone's skipping

2177
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:08,639
Speaker 1: a whole season at this point their career, Micha. Among

2178
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 1: other things you've written is grading different position groups. Uh, today, yesterday.

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01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 1: I guess you've got your NFL secondary rankings. All thirty

2180
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:21,599
Speaker 1: two teams their defensive backfield's rank. You've got the Buffalo

2181
01:44:21,680 --> 01:44:23,840
Speaker 1: Bills ranked number seven, and that's the result of the

2182
01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:26,160
Speaker 1: PF grades. Right, You've done it based on the grades

2183
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:29,200
Speaker 1: that are out there from PF. Yes, the grass just

2184
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 1: give us an idea of how that grading works. I

2185
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 1: know everyone's not familiar with that. I am, but I

2186
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:35,280
Speaker 1: know a lot of our listeners might not be familiar

2187
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:37,000
Speaker 1: with the grades that are issued on a on a

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01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 1: weekly basis by Pro Football Focus. Yeah, so it's a

2189
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 1: play by play grading. Every player gets a grade on

2190
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:46,040
Speaker 1: every play from you know minus two to posit too,

2191
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 1: these point five increments that you know to assess there

2192
01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:53,600
Speaker 1: how they performed. And in coverage, it's a lot of

2193
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:55,680
Speaker 1: it is you know, assignment based what it was, your

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01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 1: specific assignment on the play, because it's not always me

2195
01:44:58,120 --> 01:45:00,720
Speaker 1: uncoverage can't always not always are and that guy that's

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01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 1: directly across me, and especially with the Bill if they play,

2197
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 1: you know, some of the least man coverage in the NFL,

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01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:07,800
Speaker 1: So you have to be able to you know, stess

2199
01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 1: with the coverages just what the guys sign was supposed

2200
01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 1: to be on the play and then how they did

2201
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:13,920
Speaker 1: in that assignment. So we do that in every single play.

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01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 1: Every guy gets the grade and then that sort of

2203
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:18,840
Speaker 1: totals up over the course of the season, and that's

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01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 1: how we normalize it against you know, how many snaps

2205
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:26,439
Speaker 1: you played, and how many what you're expected to be doing,

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01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:29,160
Speaker 1: how what they expected, you know, grade would be on

2207
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:31,599
Speaker 1: those snaps, and then that's how you get that zero two,

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01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:34,000
Speaker 1: one hundred grade that you see for each player at

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Speaker 1: the end of the year, at the end of each game. Also,

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01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 1: so we sort of just the Ardly analytics team ran

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01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:43,240
Speaker 1: the numbers for all the you know, all the projected

2212
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:45,320
Speaker 1: five starters for each team, and then that's how he

2213
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:47,439
Speaker 1: came to these rankings and the rankings you have. The

2214
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 1: Bills ranked is the seventh best secondary in the National

2215
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:53,720
Speaker 1: Football legg thanks in large part to the play of

2216
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 1: the safeties Jordan Poyer and Micah Hye, two highly graded

2217
01:45:56,880 --> 01:46:00,880
Speaker 1: safeties maybe the best safety tanem in the league. Huh yeah,

2218
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 1: they've been fantastic. Two sort of budget free agent signings

2219
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 1: last offseason that didn't really have much much fanfare around him.

2220
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:12,759
Speaker 1: But Sean McDermott has this way of you know, turning

2221
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:15,720
Speaker 1: these budget free safeties into playmakers in his defense just

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01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:17,599
Speaker 1: with what he asked them to do and like I said,

2223
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:19,680
Speaker 1: they play a lot of zone and so guys like

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01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 1: Mike Hi and Ployer were sort of playmakers in their

2225
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:24,759
Speaker 1: other you know, and there are other stops in Player

2226
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:27,880
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, Hide in Green Bay, but they were Hide

2227
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:29,920
Speaker 1: was miscast a lot of time as a slot corner.

2228
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 1: Player played a lot of single high safety, whereas Bills

2229
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:35,800
Speaker 1: are playing a lot of too high where they're asking

2230
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:38,479
Speaker 1: these guys to be playmakers and come downhill on you know,

2231
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:40,920
Speaker 1: routes and make plays in the ballus. They did better

2232
01:46:40,920 --> 01:46:42,599
Speaker 1: than any safety to do in the NFL last year.

2233
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:43,960
Speaker 1: I think they got their hands on I think it's

2234
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 1: twenty one total passes last year, which is more, I

2235
01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 1: said that than any safety deal. So they're they're very

2236
01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 1: it's a very talented group, especially for what they are

2237
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:55,479
Speaker 1: asked to do there. Yeah, and that's a number I

2238
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 1: had not seen any word you got out of the

2239
01:46:57,200 --> 01:47:00,120
Speaker 1: miss twenty one. You got the two safeties point are

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01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 1: in high combining for more pass deflections and interceptions and

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01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:06,479
Speaker 1: any other safety group in the league twenty one. I've

2242
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:09,360
Speaker 1: never seen those those two numbers combined like that. But

2243
01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:11,439
Speaker 1: that's significant, isn't it. They're getting their hands on the ball,

2244
01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 1: they're around the football. Yeah, that means basically you have

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01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:18,400
Speaker 1: safeties who are you know who who are like breaking

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01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:20,600
Speaker 1: up passes, which is a good thing for safeties to

2247
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:23,240
Speaker 1: be doing. They're not just you know, sitting there back

2248
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 1: there and basically covering for other guys. They're making this

2249
01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 1: they're getting it done on their own, which is always,

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01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:30,600
Speaker 1: you know, always a boost for your defense. And of

2251
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 1: course Tredabus White the defensive rookie of the Year last year.

2252
01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 1: According to PFU, he was his grade ninety something, right,

2253
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 1: ninety one point six. Yeah, he's a monster. I mean,

2254
01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:43,519
Speaker 1: we loved him coming out of LSU. Thought he was

2255
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Speaker 1: a surefire. We called second best cornerback in that class

2256
01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:49,720
Speaker 1: behind Marshaun Latimer, and she was better than m last year.

2257
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:53,320
Speaker 1: You know, he was very good, very good instincts and

2258
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:55,519
Speaker 1: another guy who's a playmaker gets a chance on a

2259
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:57,840
Speaker 1: lot of passes at that one. A little rough spot

2260
01:47:57,920 --> 01:47:59,840
Speaker 1: against AJ Green where he got a little hesitant, But

2261
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 1: I expect him to be just as good, if not better,

2262
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:04,760
Speaker 1: in your two. You're One of the things about it too,

2263
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:07,360
Speaker 1: is you gotta you take into count all five projected

2264
01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:10,719
Speaker 1: starters and you look down the roster at Vante Davis,

2265
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:12,880
Speaker 1: who lost a lot of time over the last year

2266
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 1: or two to injuries, was a pretty good corner up

2267
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:19,360
Speaker 1: until the point where the injuries started to you know,

2268
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 1: take take their toll on him. He's a veteran guy

2269
01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 1: and they signed him. Talk talk a little bit about

2270
01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:26,320
Speaker 1: what you can expect from a guy like Vonte Davis

2271
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 1: who has been around the block but yet has started to,

2272
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, show signs of injury susceptibility late in his career. Yeah,

2273
01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 1: that's pretty much the only thing keeping them out of

2274
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 1: the top five right now is that question mark across

2275
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:44,240
Speaker 1: from today this way, we loved Vontae Davis the peers

2276
01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:46,200
Speaker 1: back in Indianapolis. He was one of the best cornerbacks

2277
01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 1: in the NFL fairly consistently for a couple of years

2278
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 1: there and got his hands. I think he let the

2279
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:54,080
Speaker 1: league in pass break ups at least once, if not

2280
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:57,040
Speaker 1: twice there in Indianapolis. So he's another guy who why

2281
01:48:57,680 --> 01:48:59,600
Speaker 1: why Definitely why they got him, it is because he

2282
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:02,200
Speaker 1: fits sort of that mold of McDermot lights guys who

2283
01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:04,040
Speaker 1: will break on past, these guys who will be getting

2284
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 1: their hands on passes, ticking, you know, making picks. Uh,

2285
01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:10,560
Speaker 1: breaking up ball. So that was who he was a

2286
01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:12,960
Speaker 1: few years back, but like you mentioned, injuries have caught

2287
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 1: up to him. Play has slipped, so we'll see if

2288
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:18,240
Speaker 1: you can recapture that form. It's you know, it's one

2289
01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 1: of those things that this lay your career. It's difficult

2290
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:22,600
Speaker 1: to say one way or the other. Like you and

2291
01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:25,920
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus have the Bills the seventh highest ranked

2292
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:29,000
Speaker 1: defensive backfield in the league. You have Jacksonville number one.

2293
01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 1: What makes the Jaguar so good? Stills corners, I mean,

2294
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:35,320
Speaker 1: you just cannot test Jalon Rams or a j Booie

2295
01:49:35,479 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 1: consistently and expect to get away with it. I think

2296
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:42,000
Speaker 1: they're passerrating when target those two guys last year was

2297
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:44,720
Speaker 1: under forty, like they just you're just not going to

2298
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 1: be successful targeting those guys. So and that's that's the

2299
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 1: most passing offenses just have to go through your you know,

2300
01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:54,439
Speaker 1: your number one and number two receivers. Those are the

2301
01:49:54,479 --> 01:49:56,280
Speaker 1: guys who are going to be your most productive. That's

2302
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 1: how you know, consistently fuel an offense. And they basically

2303
01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 1: we shut those down weekend and week out. So while

2304
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:05,240
Speaker 1: they do have now a little bit of a hole

2305
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:07,960
Speaker 1: in their slot, corner position. They're still so dominant on

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Speaker 1: the outside that I'm comfortable putting them at the number

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01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:12,880
Speaker 1: one second year in the NFL. Yeah, as you go

2308
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:16,200
Speaker 1: down through the top five, you've also got two LA teams,

2309
01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:19,200
Speaker 1: the Chargers and the Rams at two and three. No question,

2310
01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:21,519
Speaker 1: the Rams went out and got a keep to lead

2311
01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 1: and Marcus Peters two corners that and I think if

2312
01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:27,920
Speaker 1: you've got two corners, you're gonna be pretty good, or

2313
01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:29,800
Speaker 1: if you have two safeties you're gonna be pretty good

2314
01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:32,200
Speaker 1: as well. But the Rams went out, got to keep

2315
01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 1: to lead and Marcus Peters. Talk about those acquisitions. Yeah,

2316
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:38,439
Speaker 1: the Rams, I think they have two corners and two safeties.

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01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:41,920
Speaker 1: Marcus Joyner and John Johnson are no slouts themselves, but

2318
01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:45,320
Speaker 1: it's incredible that you know that the NFL allowed them,

2319
01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:47,240
Speaker 1: that everyone allowed them to get a keep to lead

2320
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:51,160
Speaker 1: and Marcus Peters this offt season. That was just no,

2321
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:53,479
Speaker 1: no offense to Trumaane Johnson. But those two guys are

2322
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 1: in different leagues than Truemaan Johnson was this season ago.

2323
01:50:57,160 --> 01:51:00,600
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters, obviously, when he wants to play, you know,

2324
01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 1: he could be one of the best cornerbacks in the NFL.

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01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:05,720
Speaker 1: And somebody to keep to leave. He believes the past

2326
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 1: three years has been nothing short of dominant for the

2327
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:12,679
Speaker 1: Deva broncos, you know, consistently, you know, pass allowing youer

2328
01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:14,639
Speaker 1: than fifty percent of his targets to be caught, which

2329
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:17,560
Speaker 1: is just such a lead for any cornerback. So I

2330
01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 1: think they can compete sort of with the Jaguars of

2331
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:23,639
Speaker 1: the world. Even though you know, Peter is not quite

2332
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 1: as consistent and keep leaves getting up there in age,

2333
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:28,559
Speaker 1: there's still a pretty darn good duo. And one more

2334
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:31,600
Speaker 1: question for you, and it deals with the overall application

2335
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:35,080
Speaker 1: of grades that Pro Football Focus does for everybody in

2336
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:38,200
Speaker 1: the NFL. How much variation is there a year to year.

2337
01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:40,600
Speaker 1: If a guy's got like Tardavious White, for instance, with

2338
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:44,200
Speaker 1: his ninety six point one, how much do they change

2339
01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:46,400
Speaker 1: from a year to year. There's got to be very

2340
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:49,080
Speaker 1: rare instances, I would think where a guy's is highly

2341
01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:52,760
Speaker 1: graded or lowly graded and then changes dramatically the following year.

2342
01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:57,120
Speaker 1: Is there or what? Yeah, we rarely see huge fluctuations.

2343
01:51:57,439 --> 01:52:00,280
Speaker 1: The fluctuation especially when a guy plays a full If

2344
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:02,920
Speaker 1: a guy gets you know, nine hundred thousand snaps the

2345
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:05,320
Speaker 1: full season, worth of play. You're not going to see

2346
01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:07,679
Speaker 1: too much of a fluctuation the next year unless injury

2347
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:10,559
Speaker 1: strikes something like that. If you see a higher low

2348
01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:12,679
Speaker 1: grade and lower number of snaps, you know, three hundred

2349
01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:15,360
Speaker 1: four hundred guys who played can't still in part time

2350
01:52:15,439 --> 01:52:17,040
Speaker 1: or you know, played early in the season, got hurt,

2351
01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:19,400
Speaker 1: that sort of thing, then you'll see bigger fluctuation. But

2352
01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:22,839
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of different positions have more stable

2353
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:25,600
Speaker 1: or offensive the defensive lines of you know, consistently been

2354
01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:28,439
Speaker 1: more stable in terms of the grading than you know,

2355
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:31,840
Speaker 1: maybe a wide receiver corner. But they're all fairly like

2356
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 1: if a guy turns in a league grade, there's a

2357
01:52:34,280 --> 01:52:36,800
Speaker 1: little chance with him, you know, being blow average the

2358
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 1: next season. That just rarely happens. After all this research

2359
01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:41,840
Speaker 1: you've done across the league at all these position groups,

2360
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:43,519
Speaker 1: is there any team that you think is going to

2361
01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:45,880
Speaker 1: be a dark horse surprise? I mean, I know that

2362
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:47,840
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns probably are going to be a little

2363
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:49,519
Speaker 1: better than not going to go oh in sixteen two

2364
01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:50,960
Speaker 1: years in a row, that kind of thing. But is

2365
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:53,320
Speaker 1: there a team that is going to come from the

2366
01:52:53,439 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 1: shadows to emerge and maybe be a team like Jacksonville

2367
01:52:56,160 --> 01:52:59,519
Speaker 1: was a year ago. So a team that was, you know,

2368
01:52:59,680 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 1: maybe bad last year and then maybe like a four

2369
01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 1: or five win team last year all of a sudden

2370
01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 1: jump up. That's a good question. I haven't the team

2371
01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:11,720
Speaker 1: I'm sort of pumping is gonna make a big leap

2372
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:13,960
Speaker 1: forward this year as the Chargers, But I don't think

2373
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:17,120
Speaker 1: they're They were necessarily bad last or the only one

2374
01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:20,679
Speaker 1: I want, say, nine games, so it's not terrible. Um gosh,

2375
01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think anyone who could. I do think

2376
01:53:23,160 --> 01:53:27,240
Speaker 1: Indianapolis could see a pretty big resurgence with obviously Andrew

2377
01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:30,080
Speaker 1: Luck coming back. That'll help a lot offensive line. And

2378
01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:32,880
Speaker 1: just because the AFC, there's so few teams with good

2379
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:37,240
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that you know that they're gonna put up that

2380
01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:39,200
Speaker 1: they can just put up, you know, twenty five thirty

2381
01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:40,840
Speaker 1: points a game. They could have a shot of winning

2382
01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:42,840
Speaker 1: every game they play in the AFC. So I do

2383
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:45,200
Speaker 1: think the Colts have a shot, But I just worry

2384
01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:48,040
Speaker 1: about their secondary. We just like you mentioned the secondary,

2385
01:53:48,280 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 1: they're in thirty seconds. They just don't have a lot

2386
01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:52,599
Speaker 1: of talent there on the back end. So vander Lucky

2387
01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:54,759
Speaker 1: is Elsey, though I would see them making a pretty

2388
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 1: big jump this upcoming year. Hey, Mike, thanks for this.

2389
01:53:57,280 --> 01:53:59,120
Speaker 1: It's very interesting reading. We thank you for coming on

2390
01:53:59,240 --> 01:54:01,960
Speaker 1: to talk with us about it. I appreciate it. Thanks

2391
01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:04,240
Speaker 1: for having me out. Mike Rerenner is a senior analyst

2392
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:06,519
Speaker 1: at Pro Football Focus. He's been with them since two

2393
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:09,800
Speaker 1: thy twelve. Number of good articles on PF dot com,

2394
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:14,200
Speaker 1: Pro Football focus dot com, including secondary rankings, who's going

2395
01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:17,599
Speaker 1: to be the most improved team in each NFL division?

2396
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:20,880
Speaker 1: Stuff like that. Mike Renner, thanks for joining us on

2397
01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:24,280
Speaker 1: the Subway Fresh take hotline, Subway Eat Fresh. We got

2398
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 1: a guess coming up at two thirty. We do have

2399
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:28,080
Speaker 1: NFL Tour False coming up. Steve on the on the

2400
01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:31,200
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley deal, which is big news, really big money

2401
01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:33,120
Speaker 1: for a running back. Yeah, that's sense. That's going to

2402
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:35,160
Speaker 1: be a ripple effect in locking mess, you know. I mean,

2403
01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:36,560
Speaker 1: the players are really going to sit up and take

2404
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:38,400
Speaker 1: notice that a running back got that kind of a deal,

2405
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:43,360
Speaker 1: and they're gonna some of them, most notably Levon Bell,

2406
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:45,640
Speaker 1: is going to be up in arms. That's what I

2407
01:54:45,720 --> 01:54:48,640
Speaker 1: wanted to bring up with you. Gurley got four years,

2408
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:50,920
Speaker 1: sixty million dollars and it was a tweet that I

2409
01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 1: just saw from former Bills Tait and Chris Greig who said,

2410
01:54:53,680 --> 01:54:56,560
Speaker 1: this is exactly why Levan Bell did not sign his offer.

2411
01:54:56,720 --> 01:54:59,560
Speaker 1: I think he's right, Levian Bell, I think looks somehow

2412
01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:02,960
Speaker 1: smart waiting. You know, you're playing under the franchise tackle.

2413
01:55:03,200 --> 01:55:05,920
Speaker 1: What's the franchise tach thirteen fourteen million this year? Yeah,

2414
01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:08,160
Speaker 1: taking his chance that he's healthy and I'm looking for

2415
01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:09,640
Speaker 1: take a chance or is he gonna come up with

2416
01:55:10,280 --> 01:55:12,720
Speaker 1: the back disease and say, you know what, I'm gonna

2417
01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:14,560
Speaker 1: take this year off and save all these times because

2418
01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:17,760
Speaker 1: because the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Pittsburgh Steelers are going to

2419
01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:19,520
Speaker 1: do their best to use him up. They're gonna try

2420
01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 1: and give him the ball four hundred times. And you

2421
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:23,680
Speaker 1: look think back to the Kansas City Chiefs and Herm Edwards.

2422
01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:26,360
Speaker 1: They gave the ball to Larry Johnson four hundred and

2423
01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:29,520
Speaker 1: thirty some times and you were never heard from him again.

2424
01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 1: That was the end of his career. So all that,

2425
01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 1: you know, So if you get a guy like Levon

2426
01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:36,400
Speaker 1: Bell who's putting all his eggs into this basket, the

2427
01:55:36,440 --> 01:55:39,320
Speaker 1: basket of this season, it's all well and good if

2428
01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:43,000
Speaker 1: he comes out healthy and fresh after an offseason next year.

2429
01:55:43,160 --> 01:55:46,240
Speaker 1: And but here's Lemian Bell saying, hey, I'm worth more

2430
01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 1: than Todd Gurley. He le generally could make that could

2431
01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:52,040
Speaker 1: make that argument. No better player, more productive than Todd Gurley,

2432
01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:54,440
Speaker 1: Why should I get paid two or three million dollars

2433
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:57,280
Speaker 1: less on average per year than Todd Gurley. That's right, now,

2434
01:55:57,280 --> 01:55:59,400
Speaker 1: that's a good argument. You can make that for sure,

2435
01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:03,520
Speaker 1: he's any more important to the Pittsburgh Steelers than Gurley

2436
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:06,400
Speaker 1: has been to the Rams. So from Bell's perspective, Labe

2437
01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:09,240
Speaker 1: and bellot's stay healthy this year, hit the open market,

2438
01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 1: and there's the market. You know, fifteen million a year,

2439
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:15,520
Speaker 1: four year times four years, forty five million guaranteed. Here's

2440
01:56:15,560 --> 01:56:18,560
Speaker 1: the problem too. I mean he's twenty seven, right, and

2441
01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 1: you're not going to get a five year deal or

2442
01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:24,120
Speaker 1: four year deal. You know, teams are not gonna you're

2443
01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:25,360
Speaker 1: never going to see the end of that, and you're

2444
01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 1: gonna have to get a high guarantee. Or maybe he

2445
01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:30,000
Speaker 1: does sign another two year deal worth that on average

2446
01:56:30,040 --> 01:56:33,920
Speaker 1: more than that. Yeah, so maybe maybe that. But you're right,

2447
01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:35,960
Speaker 1: he did the right thing by not signing, because the

2448
01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:40,680
Speaker 1: running backs are not valued anymore and the Todd Gurley

2449
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:43,960
Speaker 1: deal indicates that they are at least there's the rams.

2450
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:47,280
Speaker 1: I would think the Steelers to take notice. The cowboys

2451
01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:49,600
Speaker 1: have to take notice, right with Ezekiel Elliot, Yeah, Yeah,

2452
01:56:49,680 --> 01:56:51,720
Speaker 1: it's very interesting. The ripple effect is going to be

2453
01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:54,480
Speaker 1: interesting to see. Yeah, when we come back, we're gonna

2454
01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:56,720
Speaker 1: talk about training camp again. We're gonna be joined by

2455
01:56:56,760 --> 01:56:59,560
Speaker 1: the man who's company for the fifth consecutive year is

2456
01:56:59,600 --> 01:57:03,360
Speaker 1: the efficial sponsor of Buffalo Bills Training Camp. We're gonna

2457
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:06,000
Speaker 1: talk with Greg Connors of Connors and Ferris Law Firm.

2458
01:57:06,200 --> 01:57:08,160
Speaker 1: He's coming by to being studio with us talk about

2459
01:57:08,200 --> 01:57:11,120
Speaker 1: training camp that's coming up next. John Murphy, Steve Tasker

2460
01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:13,720
Speaker 1: coming back One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on

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01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:30,280
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. N Welcome back to the show, Steve Tasker,

2462
01:57:30,360 --> 01:57:32,480
Speaker 1: John Murphy. It's One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive.

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01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:34,800
Speaker 1: We are at One Bill's Drive. We are right now

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01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:37,280
Speaker 1: right next door to New air Afield. But two days

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Speaker 1: away we're going to be in our beautiful setup at

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01:57:39,960 --> 01:57:42,920
Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher College for Buffalo Bills Training Camp. It's

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Speaker 1: the fifth consecutive year that Connors and Farrish, your workers

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Speaker 1: comp Attorneys will be the official sponsors of the Buffalo

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01:57:49,160 --> 01:57:51,760
Speaker 1: Bills Training camp and joining us the founder of Connors

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01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:53,880
Speaker 1: and Ferris Great Connors, Greg. We're looking forward to help

2471
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:56,560
Speaker 1: me out here. Steve has a different training camp experience

2472
01:57:56,640 --> 01:57:59,240
Speaker 1: in his background than people like you and me. Steve

2473
01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:02,440
Speaker 1: is gone on two day workouts and all kinds of

2474
01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:05,080
Speaker 1: work and sweating in the hot sun. You and I

2475
01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:07,280
Speaker 1: go to camp for nothing but fun. Help me, help

2476
01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:09,560
Speaker 1: me convinced Eve that camp can't be fun. Well, camp

2477
01:58:09,680 --> 01:58:11,840
Speaker 1: can be fun. And when I played down at Alford

2478
01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:13,400
Speaker 1: University when I was in college, when I had the

2479
01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:15,360
Speaker 1: first chance to meet you, I loved it. Two in

2480
01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:17,360
Speaker 1: three days. I loved that sweat it was. It was

2481
01:58:17,400 --> 01:58:19,440
Speaker 1: just football all day long. It didn't get any better

2482
01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:22,560
Speaker 1: than that. So I know, I'm a little crazy. What

2483
01:58:22,640 --> 01:58:26,560
Speaker 1: do you like, Yeah, when you're young and stuff like that. Yeah,

2484
01:58:26,600 --> 01:58:28,000
Speaker 1: I was in shape and we were ready for it.

2485
01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:29,680
Speaker 1: But it was rough, And I think the thing that

2486
01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm disliked about it most was the stress of you know,

2487
01:58:34,040 --> 01:58:36,800
Speaker 1: trying to stay on that team and trying to you know,

2488
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:41,240
Speaker 1: be successful and trying to you know, for me, I

2489
01:58:41,360 --> 01:58:43,640
Speaker 1: was just a special teams guy, so I had to

2490
01:58:44,160 --> 01:58:46,400
Speaker 1: make the team, and we practiced all day every day

2491
01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:48,920
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver, so I was like trying to

2492
01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:50,840
Speaker 1: be successful something I wasn't as good as those other

2493
01:58:50,880 --> 01:58:53,800
Speaker 1: guys were. Well, now that you're not stressing was really

2494
01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:55,680
Speaker 1: problem for me. Now that you're not playing, you get

2495
01:58:55,720 --> 01:58:57,600
Speaker 1: to come and watch. It's a lot more fun. You

2496
01:58:57,680 --> 01:59:00,080
Speaker 1: get to wear shorts and T shirts. I love it.

2497
01:59:00,760 --> 01:59:03,440
Speaker 1: My oldest son comes with me to every practice, so

2498
01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:05,240
Speaker 1: like to spend a lot of quality time with him.

2499
01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:09,840
Speaker 1: My youngest son would rather play than watch, so he's

2500
01:59:09,880 --> 01:59:11,720
Speaker 1: not quite into it as much. But there's nothing better

2501
01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:14,280
Speaker 1: than being on the sunny days watching the guys get

2502
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:16,360
Speaker 1: out there and compete. You know you were talking earlier

2503
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:20,000
Speaker 1: about to Garoppolo, you're a football player. You better think

2504
01:59:20,040 --> 01:59:21,680
Speaker 1: you're better than the person ahead of you. If you don't,

2505
01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:24,200
Speaker 1: you don't belong on the team. And that's the way.

2506
01:59:24,320 --> 01:59:27,120
Speaker 1: That's what mcdermot's getting these guys prepared for and it's

2507
01:59:27,160 --> 01:59:29,920
Speaker 1: fun to watch. There's about fifteen, maybe a little bit more,

2508
01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:32,280
Speaker 1: a little bit less practices at Saint John Fisher. I

2509
01:59:32,320 --> 01:59:35,000
Speaker 1: think about twelve open to the public, and I am

2510
01:59:35,120 --> 01:59:37,320
Speaker 1: certain that you will be there for virtually every one

2511
01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:39,240
Speaker 1: of those twelve, right, you don't miss him? I try

2512
01:59:39,320 --> 01:59:42,280
Speaker 1: not to. Why, we do a lot of entertaining with

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01:59:42,920 --> 01:59:46,720
Speaker 1: clients and referral sources that helps our business. And so

2514
01:59:46,800 --> 01:59:48,800
Speaker 1: it's a great partnership with the Bills and us. Then

2515
01:59:48,880 --> 01:59:50,880
Speaker 1: we use this as an opportunity to build on that.

2516
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:54,360
Speaker 1: And so for me, you know, you're talking about things

2517
01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:58,360
Speaker 1: I have a great passion for my office work and

2518
01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:00,520
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills and football. So when you get to

2519
02:00:01,240 --> 02:00:03,880
Speaker 1: get those two together, why I missed a second of it.

2520
02:00:04,080 --> 02:00:05,720
Speaker 1: So here, let me put you on the spot. So

2521
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:08,480
Speaker 1: aside from the business, you know, benefits you get from

2522
02:00:08,520 --> 02:00:11,360
Speaker 1: partnering with the Bills and doing the training camp. What's

2523
02:00:11,400 --> 02:00:13,240
Speaker 1: the best perk for you at training camp? What do

2524
02:00:13,320 --> 02:00:16,000
Speaker 1: you what's the best part of it? Oh? The Well,

2525
02:00:16,040 --> 02:00:17,880
Speaker 1: the best part of training camp for me is the parking.

2526
02:00:18,240 --> 02:00:21,080
Speaker 1: You know, we get to commit and get you get

2527
02:00:21,120 --> 02:00:25,120
Speaker 1: you get really good parking. And uh that's don't don't

2528
02:00:25,160 --> 02:00:29,000
Speaker 1: belittle it, it's true. It's it's great. And uh, you

2529
02:00:29,080 --> 02:00:31,360
Speaker 1: know the access that they give us, the access that

2530
02:00:31,440 --> 02:00:34,760
Speaker 1: we have as the as the primary sponsor, getting around

2531
02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:37,760
Speaker 1: individuals like you two, um, seeing the rest of the

2532
02:00:37,840 --> 02:00:40,440
Speaker 1: team come in and out through the autograph area. The

2533
02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:44,000
Speaker 1: most gratifying thing I get is with the kids. You know,

2534
02:00:44,080 --> 02:00:46,000
Speaker 1: when you see the kids that are there and they're

2535
02:00:46,040 --> 02:00:49,400
Speaker 1: getting this front row experience because they'll never get this

2536
02:00:49,480 --> 02:00:52,080
Speaker 1: close to the players, you know, during the games or

2537
02:00:52,480 --> 02:00:54,680
Speaker 1: when they're back here. So so to watch the kids

2538
02:00:54,720 --> 02:00:57,200
Speaker 1: come in and to have that experience has been great.

2539
02:00:57,240 --> 02:00:58,960
Speaker 1: And we're trying to work with the Bills to trying

2540
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:02,200
Speaker 1: to enhance that experience and um Kim and Terry are

2541
02:01:02,280 --> 02:01:04,560
Speaker 1: really investing in that. We've got a couple of we've

2542
02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:06,360
Speaker 1: got a couple of new wrinkles in the in the

2543
02:01:06,480 --> 02:01:08,400
Speaker 1: mix this year for training camp for the kids and

2544
02:01:08,440 --> 02:01:10,160
Speaker 1: some of the fans that come out and whether the

2545
02:01:10,680 --> 02:01:13,920
Speaker 1: you know, go through any enjoy themselves, and whether any

2546
02:01:13,960 --> 02:01:16,960
Speaker 1: storms that might creep up. But we've got got some interesting,

2547
02:01:17,080 --> 02:01:19,720
Speaker 1: fun little tidbits we're gonna be providing the fans when

2548
02:01:19,720 --> 02:01:22,160
Speaker 1: they come out to the game. Good cons and first

2549
02:01:22,280 --> 02:01:24,320
Speaker 1: is in studio with us getting set for training camp.

2550
02:01:24,400 --> 02:01:27,000
Speaker 1: They are the official training camp sponsor for the fifth

2551
02:01:27,080 --> 02:01:29,880
Speaker 1: consecutive year, and you share that access to right, you're

2552
02:01:29,920 --> 02:01:32,200
Speaker 1: gonna host Big Brothers, Big Sisters, and some Boys and

2553
02:01:32,240 --> 02:01:34,400
Speaker 1: Girls Club in the community tenth this year. Yeah, and

2554
02:01:34,520 --> 02:01:37,240
Speaker 1: that's and that's what it's all about. You know, that's

2555
02:01:37,240 --> 02:01:38,800
Speaker 1: the thing I take most pride in when you get

2556
02:01:38,840 --> 02:01:41,560
Speaker 1: to bring those kids in and you know, we're gonna

2557
02:01:41,600 --> 02:01:43,800
Speaker 1: give him a T shirt this year, and Josh Allen's

2558
02:01:43,800 --> 02:01:46,200
Speaker 1: been kind enough to allow us to use his name

2559
02:01:46,240 --> 02:01:48,680
Speaker 1: and number and a lot of those kids. We see

2560
02:01:48,720 --> 02:01:51,440
Speaker 1: these kids throughout the year, you know, December January with

2561
02:01:51,520 --> 02:01:53,880
Speaker 1: these T shirts on. That's their football jersey, that's their

2562
02:01:53,920 --> 02:01:56,760
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills football jersey. Some of the first times they

2563
02:01:56,760 --> 02:01:58,560
Speaker 1: get anything, they have the Bills on it. And we're

2564
02:01:58,600 --> 02:02:00,600
Speaker 1: hoping that they make them Bills fans life and it

2565
02:02:00,640 --> 02:02:02,960
Speaker 1: gives them a little passion for football and they can

2566
02:02:03,080 --> 02:02:05,040
Speaker 1: learn from it and I love that part of it.

2567
02:02:05,200 --> 02:02:07,840
Speaker 1: We have this We always have a Twitter question for

2568
02:02:07,960 --> 02:02:10,240
Speaker 1: people to chime in and tweet at us. In today's

2569
02:02:10,360 --> 02:02:12,800
Speaker 1: was what's your favorite training camp memory before I ask

2570
02:02:12,840 --> 02:02:14,360
Speaker 1: you what yours is. It's one of the things that

2571
02:02:14,400 --> 02:02:17,240
Speaker 1: we've gotten some of is people calling us as I've

2572
02:02:17,400 --> 02:02:19,320
Speaker 1: you know, a guy took my daughters to the training

2573
02:02:19,400 --> 02:02:23,680
Speaker 1: camp and to this day they're football fans because of

2574
02:02:23,760 --> 02:02:26,000
Speaker 1: the experience they had a training camp. You see some

2575
02:02:26,120 --> 02:02:28,160
Speaker 1: of that when you bring the kids from brothers and

2576
02:02:28,240 --> 02:02:30,280
Speaker 1: bring big sisters out and they get a chance to

2577
02:02:30,880 --> 02:02:34,080
Speaker 1: to equate the guy that they spoke to it Saint

2578
02:02:34,160 --> 02:02:37,280
Speaker 1: John Fisher to the guy that's on the TV on

2579
02:02:37,360 --> 02:02:40,400
Speaker 1: a Sunday afternoon of the fall. It makes it so personal, right,

2580
02:02:40,480 --> 02:02:42,040
Speaker 1: you know, they see it. It gives them that drives.

2581
02:02:42,080 --> 02:02:44,360
Speaker 1: It gives them that motivation. Hopefully it inspires them to

2582
02:02:44,480 --> 02:02:46,800
Speaker 1: do well in school, to work hard in terms of

2583
02:02:46,800 --> 02:02:49,880
Speaker 1: any sports they're playing with it be football, basketball, and

2584
02:02:49,960 --> 02:02:51,400
Speaker 1: I think it gives them that access and that's why

2585
02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:53,280
Speaker 1: we really enjoy doing that part of it. My favorite

2586
02:02:53,400 --> 02:02:56,800
Speaker 1: training camp, well, I have two essentially. One is as

2587
02:02:56,840 --> 02:03:00,520
Speaker 1: a kid at Fredonia with my dad, Hotter than Heck.

2588
02:03:00,720 --> 02:03:03,720
Speaker 1: I was probably nine or ten years old. We drive.

2589
02:03:03,840 --> 02:03:06,560
Speaker 1: I grew up in Hornell, played football for Gene Mass

2590
02:03:06,600 --> 02:03:09,080
Speaker 1: and down in Hornell. Drive about two hours to get

2591
02:03:09,120 --> 02:03:12,520
Speaker 1: to Fredonia and I'm thinking, I'm gonna be this close

2592
02:03:12,560 --> 02:03:14,600
Speaker 1: to you because that's what our access is like, you know,

2593
02:03:15,040 --> 02:03:17,440
Speaker 1: high school football. And we get there, we're probably a

2594
02:03:17,560 --> 02:03:21,520
Speaker 1: hundred yards away from where the practice field was and

2595
02:03:22,040 --> 02:03:24,440
Speaker 1: we're watching and I loved it. But it was just

2596
02:03:24,480 --> 02:03:26,120
Speaker 1: the time. Any end I look back, it was the

2597
02:03:26,160 --> 02:03:28,000
Speaker 1: time I spent with my dad. It was that time,

2598
02:03:28,120 --> 02:03:30,120
Speaker 1: was the drive, it was getting there, was talking about

2599
02:03:30,200 --> 02:03:31,960
Speaker 1: who we saw at you know, Joe Ferguson was a

2600
02:03:32,040 --> 02:03:35,440
Speaker 1: quarterback at the time, Joel Cribbs. And so when I

2601
02:03:35,560 --> 02:03:38,120
Speaker 1: think about my favorite training camp memory as a as

2602
02:03:38,120 --> 02:03:40,600
Speaker 1: an adult now and spending time with my kids, you know,

2603
02:03:40,680 --> 02:03:44,240
Speaker 1: it's having my son will there every practice I'm doing that.

2604
02:03:44,320 --> 02:03:47,240
Speaker 1: That's that's those are the great memories. Night practices are

2605
02:03:47,280 --> 02:03:49,880
Speaker 1: always a highlight. There's only one in Rochester this year.

2606
02:03:50,040 --> 02:03:52,760
Speaker 1: The first one Thursday night, five thirty. You've got some

2607
02:03:52,880 --> 02:03:56,080
Speaker 1: youth football organizations coming right with you on Thursday night. Yeah.

2608
02:03:56,200 --> 02:03:58,520
Speaker 1: So again trying to enhance the experience for the youth,

2609
02:03:58,560 --> 02:04:00,400
Speaker 1: trying to get them exposed to the Buffalo Bills. We've

2610
02:04:00,440 --> 02:04:02,600
Speaker 1: partnered with the Bills to try to encourage and to

2611
02:04:02,680 --> 02:04:05,480
Speaker 1: get as many youth football players involved. Again, we give

2612
02:04:05,520 --> 02:04:06,960
Speaker 1: them that give them the T shirt, to give them

2613
02:04:07,000 --> 02:04:10,440
Speaker 1: the Bills gear, um, get them, get them rooting for

2614
02:04:10,480 --> 02:04:13,040
Speaker 1: the Bills because they're the future fans. That's what's gonna

2615
02:04:13,200 --> 02:04:15,800
Speaker 1: make this franchise and keep it as stable. On is

2616
02:04:15,880 --> 02:04:18,000
Speaker 1: popular and when they win like they did last year

2617
02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:20,000
Speaker 1: and like they did when you were playing. All of

2618
02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:22,000
Speaker 1: a sudden you get you get more and more fans

2619
02:04:22,240 --> 02:04:25,880
Speaker 1: and so getting them the access, getting them going and

2620
02:04:26,080 --> 02:04:28,440
Speaker 1: having that experience with what it's all about. Over the

2621
02:04:28,520 --> 02:04:31,200
Speaker 1: five years that you guys have sponsored training camp in Rochester,

2622
02:04:31,360 --> 02:04:34,040
Speaker 1: what are the significant change because it's different every year,

2623
02:04:34,400 --> 02:04:37,440
Speaker 1: but it evolves, right, it gets better, it gets different.

2624
02:04:37,560 --> 02:04:39,800
Speaker 1: They take this off and they put more of this

2625
02:04:40,000 --> 02:04:42,560
Speaker 1: on that kind of thing. What's the you know in

2626
02:04:42,640 --> 02:04:44,080
Speaker 1: the state, I don't even know it's gonna look at

2627
02:04:44,080 --> 02:04:45,480
Speaker 1: you say, you kind of know what it's going to

2628
02:04:45,560 --> 02:04:47,280
Speaker 1: look like already. We haven't even been over there yet,

2629
02:04:47,360 --> 02:04:50,120
Speaker 1: so we're kind of in for a surprise when we

2630
02:04:50,160 --> 02:04:51,720
Speaker 1: get there and what it's gonna look like. Yeah, this

2631
02:04:51,960 --> 02:04:54,280
Speaker 1: with coach McDermott, the biggest change with coach mcdermots. He

2632
02:04:54,280 --> 02:04:57,000
Speaker 1: does everything on the grass field. So the turf stadium

2633
02:04:57,600 --> 02:05:00,480
Speaker 1: that that that was there they used for years, they

2634
02:05:00,520 --> 02:05:03,280
Speaker 1: don't use that anymore. So that's probably the biggest change. Um.

2635
02:05:04,280 --> 02:05:06,760
Speaker 1: The thing that I've enjoyed most with the with the

2636
02:05:06,880 --> 02:05:11,040
Speaker 1: change through the years is how um the Wilsons and

2637
02:05:11,120 --> 02:05:13,320
Speaker 1: Outpaguls are trying to get the fans to get as

2638
02:05:13,360 --> 02:05:15,440
Speaker 1: close to access as they can get. You know, they

2639
02:05:15,560 --> 02:05:18,600
Speaker 1: want them to have that NFL experience. Uh. And they're

2640
02:05:18,640 --> 02:05:21,040
Speaker 1: trying to build that NFL experience not just on the field,

2641
02:05:21,040 --> 02:05:23,200
Speaker 1: but also off the field. Uh. And so I think

2642
02:05:23,240 --> 02:05:24,720
Speaker 1: when you when you go into camp, you'll begin to

2643
02:05:24,760 --> 02:05:26,320
Speaker 1: see that. And the other thing is the catering the kids.

2644
02:05:26,440 --> 02:05:28,800
Speaker 1: They're having all these theme days. You know, my son,

2645
02:05:28,920 --> 02:05:31,440
Speaker 1: my younger son's is a huge superhero fan. I mean,

2646
02:05:31,560 --> 02:05:35,040
Speaker 1: he's thinking a superhero superhero right, what's his superhero's gonna dress? Ass?

2647
02:05:35,160 --> 02:05:37,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. He likes them all. He likes them all.

2648
02:05:38,720 --> 02:05:42,680
Speaker 1: He's fast, he's fast, and he's strong. Um, so you

2649
02:05:42,720 --> 02:05:45,480
Speaker 1: know he'll probably go to that one because it's Superhero Day.

2650
02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:48,040
Speaker 1: And you know, and then my business partner Toime is

2651
02:05:48,040 --> 02:05:50,200
Speaker 1: a veteran and you know he you know, he and

2652
02:05:50,320 --> 02:05:52,200
Speaker 1: his friends are are going to come for the Veteran's

2653
02:05:52,200 --> 02:05:55,080
Speaker 1: appreciation Day. So so those types of things making it

2654
02:05:55,400 --> 02:05:58,720
Speaker 1: that fan centric um has been great. Watching that evolved

2655
02:05:58,720 --> 02:06:00,760
Speaker 1: has been a lot of fun. You're law firm, Connors

2656
02:06:00,800 --> 02:06:03,800
Speaker 1: and Ferris is almost the perfect sponsor. You have offices

2657
02:06:03,840 --> 02:06:07,240
Speaker 1: in Rochester, offices in Buffalo. What does being the sponsor

2658
02:06:07,280 --> 02:06:09,600
Speaker 1: of camp do for you professionally? What does it do

2659
02:06:09,720 --> 02:06:12,640
Speaker 1: for the business. Well, it's a it's a great synergy

2660
02:06:12,720 --> 02:06:15,560
Speaker 1: between both offices and and uh, you know our friend

2661
02:06:15,680 --> 02:06:17,520
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly's the one that encouraged me to come out

2662
02:06:17,560 --> 02:06:20,840
Speaker 1: to Buffalo because we were in Rochester at first. UM,

2663
02:06:21,360 --> 02:06:24,280
Speaker 1: and uh, it really is a perfect synergy for us.

2664
02:06:24,560 --> 02:06:28,080
Speaker 1: UM it allows us from training camp to utilize our

2665
02:06:28,160 --> 02:06:30,880
Speaker 1: roster connections and resources, and then during the season we're

2666
02:06:30,920 --> 02:06:33,640
Speaker 1: in Buffalo for our Buffalo connections and resources. So it's

2667
02:06:33,680 --> 02:06:36,080
Speaker 1: really it's a it's it's a great partnership with the

2668
02:06:36,160 --> 02:06:39,000
Speaker 1: Bills and they take great great take great care of us.

2669
02:06:39,080 --> 02:06:41,520
Speaker 1: And uh, it's been great for us and for Western York.

2670
02:06:41,640 --> 02:06:43,200
Speaker 1: I know you are clothes with Jim in FEC. You're

2671
02:06:43,240 --> 02:06:44,880
Speaker 1: on the Hunters whole board of directors, right, you work

2672
02:06:44,920 --> 02:06:46,920
Speaker 1: with him on that. I am, yes, we've I've been

2673
02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:48,600
Speaker 1: on the board now, I think for about ten years.

2674
02:06:48,720 --> 02:06:51,600
Speaker 1: And uh, and you know, our prayers, thoughts and prayers

2675
02:06:51,640 --> 02:06:54,400
Speaker 1: go off for Jim and Jill and the girls. And uh,

2676
02:06:54,560 --> 02:06:57,240
Speaker 1: you know, he's Jim's a fighter, He's he's doing his

2677
02:06:57,360 --> 02:06:59,840
Speaker 1: thing you can't. You can't hold him down. He's a mess.

2678
02:07:00,320 --> 02:07:02,360
Speaker 1: Every time somebody asked me how he's doing, like they

2679
02:07:02,440 --> 02:07:04,920
Speaker 1: think he's you know, he's just on his last leg

2680
02:07:05,080 --> 02:07:06,920
Speaker 1: or he's just and you see he's out doing something.

2681
02:07:06,960 --> 02:07:08,800
Speaker 1: You know, he's in his golf tournament, he's you know,

2682
02:07:08,880 --> 02:07:11,800
Speaker 1: he's doing the SPS. He's in an event in Rochester,

2683
02:07:11,920 --> 02:07:14,120
Speaker 1: opening up a clinic in Rochester. I mean, he's he

2684
02:07:14,360 --> 02:07:18,160
Speaker 1: just I think, to his credit, he thrives on that

2685
02:07:18,200 --> 02:07:20,680
Speaker 1: stuff energizes him. I think it's it helps him to

2686
02:07:20,800 --> 02:07:22,200
Speaker 1: get out and still do what he used to do.

2687
02:07:23,120 --> 02:07:26,160
Speaker 1: When Jim stops doing something, that's when you need to worry. Um.

2688
02:07:26,520 --> 02:07:28,800
Speaker 1: You know, the day before, the day before the SPS,

2689
02:07:28,840 --> 02:07:30,600
Speaker 1: he was in Roster for a youth football camp, his

2690
02:07:30,720 --> 02:07:33,080
Speaker 1: youth football camp, and he wasn't there to like sitting

2691
02:07:33,080 --> 02:07:37,200
Speaker 1: in a chair watching the kid was the bar around. Yeah, yeah,

2692
02:07:37,200 --> 02:07:39,360
Speaker 1: he's coaching him up. Yeah. I texted with him that

2693
02:07:39,440 --> 02:07:41,120
Speaker 1: day because I'd heard that was going on today. Are

2694
02:07:41,160 --> 02:07:43,000
Speaker 1: you gonna be there? Because I knew the SP's were

2695
02:07:43,040 --> 02:07:45,480
Speaker 1: the next right, and you know, because you know, it's

2696
02:07:45,480 --> 02:07:46,920
Speaker 1: like to fly, I mean, you got to do stuff

2697
02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:48,840
Speaker 1: and then you gotta jet to the airport and then

2698
02:07:48,880 --> 02:07:52,000
Speaker 1: you gotta fly across the country. He's like, oh yeah, yeah,

2699
02:07:52,080 --> 02:07:53,960
Speaker 1: and then tomorrow's the ESP and he's given me the

2700
02:07:54,000 --> 02:07:58,120
Speaker 1: whole rundown. I'm like, dude, yeah, you know, relax, yeah,

2701
02:07:58,120 --> 02:08:00,520
Speaker 1: a little bit right. Yeah. If you hear that Jim

2702
02:08:00,640 --> 02:08:02,920
Speaker 1: is sitting on a couch for a couple of days

2703
02:08:02,920 --> 02:08:04,360
Speaker 1: in a row, that's mean to say, Hey, is he

2704
02:08:04,480 --> 02:08:07,200
Speaker 1: okay yeah, or he's deer hunting? Well, that's going yeah

2705
02:08:07,480 --> 02:08:09,000
Speaker 1: that he'll do a lot. I mean, I don't blame

2706
02:08:09,040 --> 02:08:10,800
Speaker 1: him for that. He should enjoy that part of it. Hey, Greg,

2707
02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:13,160
Speaker 1: we love having you here. Yeah, I said to Steve

2708
02:08:13,240 --> 02:08:14,920
Speaker 1: at the start of the show today. The buzz that's

2709
02:08:14,960 --> 02:08:17,480
Speaker 1: in our building here today about everybody going to camp

2710
02:08:17,520 --> 02:08:19,000
Speaker 1: the next few days, and you add to it by

2711
02:08:19,040 --> 02:08:20,480
Speaker 1: being on our show here today, and we thank you

2712
02:08:20,560 --> 02:08:22,160
Speaker 1: for that. Well, thanks for having us. And the buzz

2713
02:08:22,280 --> 02:08:25,000
Speaker 1: is really strong in Rochester after the conclusion of last

2714
02:08:25,080 --> 02:08:28,200
Speaker 1: year's season with Coach McDermott and Brandon Bean and what

2715
02:08:28,240 --> 02:08:30,920
Speaker 1: the Googols are doing. The buzz and roster is intense.

2716
02:08:31,400 --> 02:08:34,040
Speaker 1: It's exciting, and I think everyone should come out and

2717
02:08:34,040 --> 02:08:35,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a great time. It's gonna be great.

2718
02:08:35,720 --> 02:08:37,880
Speaker 1: Starts Thursday night, five thirty. Thank you great, Thanks for

2719
02:08:37,920 --> 02:08:39,720
Speaker 1: coming by my pleasure, Thanks for having me. Greg Connor

2720
02:08:39,760 --> 02:08:42,280
Speaker 1: is the founder of Connors and Farrish your Workers compaternities.

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Speaker 1: They are for the fifth year the official sponsors of

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills Training Camp in Rochester. Steve and I

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Speaker 1: back to wrap things up at a moment, One Goals

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Speaker 1: Live from One Goals Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the big show, One Goals Live. We call

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Speaker 1: it John Murphy, Steve Tasker. Thanks to Greg Connors for

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Speaker 1: joining us here in studio for a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 1: We only got a few minutes left in the show.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow we're back here with another three hour show and

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Speaker 1: then it's Rochester for the most part, for about a

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Speaker 1: three week span. What do we say we have ten

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Speaker 1: or twelve shows in Rochester over the next three weeks.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be all right, don't worry about I'll be fine.

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02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:32,200
Speaker 1: I know you were, because I only have do eight

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Speaker 1: of them. NFL True or false time. It has brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Yancey's, Fancy New York's Artists and Cheese

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02:09:40,800 --> 02:09:43,400
Speaker 1: Events that we are issues that we see across the

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Speaker 1: wire from the NFL. Steve, and I proclaimed them true

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Speaker 1: or false. Brandon Boykin is a free agent defensive back

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02:09:50,920 --> 02:09:53,560
Speaker 1: played the six seasons in the NFL. Did an interview

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Speaker 1: on NFL dot Com. He says that there are great

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Speaker 1: receivers in the league. He's gone against many of them,

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, Junior et Ce, Larry Fitzgerald, Julio Jones. But

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Speaker 1: he says out of all of them, out of all

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Speaker 1: of them, there's nobody better than Antonio Brown, Nobody better

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Speaker 1: than Antonio Brown. He says, all wide receivers are stepped

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02:10:11,400 --> 02:10:15,280
Speaker 1: down from the Steelers Antonio Brown true false? Steve, what

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Speaker 1: are you saying? I say it's probably true. I give

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Speaker 1: a guy who played against him the benefit of the

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02:10:19,920 --> 02:10:22,879
Speaker 1: doubt he for him, it may be true. And he's

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Speaker 1: speaking from where where he played with him or against him,

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Speaker 1: And Antonio Brown, no question, He's in the conversation for

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Speaker 1: the best guy in the league. And when you get

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Speaker 1: a guy who faces a number of different guys around

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Speaker 1: the league and says Antonio Brown's the best, I think

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02:10:34,560 --> 02:10:36,520
Speaker 1: you gotta give him a chance to say. You gotta

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Speaker 1: believe him and for him it's probably true. I guess.

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Speaker 1: So I respect Boykins. I mean again, he's played against him,

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Speaker 1: he knows. It's the big guys I think are the

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Speaker 1: ones that impressed me the most. Yes, Julio Jones, you

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02:10:48,760 --> 02:10:51,760
Speaker 1: know a guy who who is just a physical freak.

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Speaker 1: Those are the guys I think might be maybe not

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Speaker 1: a step down from Antonio Brown. But again it's well,

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Speaker 1: I'll give him, I'll give him a true here, but

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Speaker 1: I just think it'd be more difficult to cover some

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Speaker 1: of the big guys. Yeah, and in any case, it's

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Speaker 1: like it's apples and oranges. These guys are have different gifts.

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02:11:06,600 --> 02:11:09,040
Speaker 1: Now they play the same position, but they're different types

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Speaker 1: of receivers and different have different skill sets even within

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Speaker 1: the same position group. So yeah, boy can can have

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Speaker 1: all kinds of problems with Antonio Brown, but maybe better

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Speaker 1: against the guy like Julio Jones. But for him and

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Speaker 1: out and so I say it's true, even though they're

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Speaker 1: it's a hard comparison to make, even given their similarities

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Speaker 1: in their position. Yeah, you can say that, NFL true

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Speaker 1: or false. Part two. We've been talking about Julio Jones

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Speaker 1: a lot today on the updates. He is ready to

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Speaker 1: sit out a little bit of training camp at least

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Speaker 1: wants a new contract. The Falcons are not going to

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Speaker 1: give him that contract before the season begins. So are

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Speaker 1: the Falcons right not to renegotiate Julio Jones contract right now? True? False?

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02:11:50,600 --> 02:11:52,320
Speaker 1: He's in the middle of a five year, seventy one

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02:11:52,480 --> 02:11:55,240
Speaker 1: million dollars extension he signed just three years ago. He's

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Speaker 1: been leap frog by the likes of Sammy Watkins and

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Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry on the salary list. The Falcons right, they

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02:12:03,440 --> 02:12:05,160
Speaker 1: are right, but there may be a price to play.

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Speaker 1: I say, true of the Falcons are right, but it's

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Speaker 1: the crazy contract given the Watkins in particular, and to

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Speaker 1: a certain extent to Jarvis Landry. Also that I'm sure

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Speaker 1: that Julio Jones isn't happy about that. He's saying what

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Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins makes this and and I don't I get

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Speaker 1: why he's upset, doesn't have much recourse and is who

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Speaker 1: is our guest? Earlier this hour, when we had Mike

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Speaker 1: Grinn around, he said he really should be upset with

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Speaker 1: his agent. I guess to not to anticipate where the

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Speaker 1: salaries were going. I agree, you know, I say it's

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Speaker 1: true they are right not to do that, because there's

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Speaker 1: no doubt that that the I was sitting here looking

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Speaker 1: at it. But he's got he's signed a stupid contract.

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Speaker 1: That's on him. The Falcons are absolutely right to make

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Speaker 1: him live up to that. Two years into a five

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Speaker 1: year deal and we had Mike Grinner. You're right. Everybody

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Speaker 1: under the sun's gonna want to renegotiate their contract. The

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Speaker 1: Falcons cannot do it. It's a business decision. Where they

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Speaker 1: want to or not they understand it or not is

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Speaker 1: beside the point. That's a bad path to go down

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Speaker 1: for the Falcon So they're right in not doing that.

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Speaker 1: NFL Twue or False Part three. Se Quon Barkley second

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Speaker 1: overall pick he's with the Giants, will not start Week one.

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Speaker 1: That's what Sean O'Hara, Farmer, Giants offensive lineman, says. He says,

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Speaker 1: I quote, I still think Jonathan Stewart has good football

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Speaker 1: left in him. I think Jonathan Stewart will probably be

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Speaker 1: the starter in Week one. That's one of the most

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Speaker 1: false things we've ever had on NFL. True or false.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Barley Barkley is a game changer, Steven. I

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Speaker 1: think he's certainly going to start week one. Yeah, that's yeah.

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Speaker 1: Se Quon Barkley is in for the Giants. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: get a lot of touches. He may not look as

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Speaker 1: good as he's gonna look all throughout the year and

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Speaker 1: maybe first game jitters or whatever, but he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: the guy that lines up in the backfield with Eli

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Speaker 1: Manning on day one, Game one, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: We've had a lot of fun today talking with you

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Speaker 1: about some of your training camp memory. Steve has maybe

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Speaker 1: fewer training camp of Fund memories and some of us,

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Speaker 1: because you you went to camp to really work, and

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Speaker 1: I get that. I'm just teasing you. You went to

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Speaker 1: camp and not just work, but also had your your

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Speaker 1: your profession on the line. I get that. You know

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Speaker 1: it'd be stressed, right You're you felt stressed there camp?

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Speaker 1: You should Yeah. Plus you know, yeah, I just didn't

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Speaker 1: like it. Are you gonna like it this year when

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Speaker 1: you go with us, I'm gonna like it a lot more. Yeah. Hey,

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Speaker 1: being on the same team as you all the padding

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Speaker 1: I need murph. Here we go. It's gonna be great.

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Speaker 1: We'll have a blast. We're headed to camp starting Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Starting Thursday, We're headed to camp. Make sure you join us,

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Speaker 1: then make sure you join us tomorrow on there again

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Speaker 1: tomorrow here from One Bill's Drive at twelve noon. Our

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Speaker 1: production assistance George blast, Stef Coltoneck, Thomas Honold or Kelly Rouge,

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Speaker 1: jj Urino, Our producer Jay Harris, See you tomorrow on

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Speaker 1: One Bill's line. From One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's

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