WEBVTT - Best Wireless Headphone Picks

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<v Speaker 1>The best wireless headphones according to Wirecutter. What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Rich Damiro. This is Rich on Tech and with

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<v Speaker 1>me today is Lauren Dragon. She is an editor at

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<v Speaker 1>a senior staff writer senior staff writer at Wirecutter. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is a great website Wirecutter. If you're not familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with it, it's kind of like the reviews website to end

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<v Speaker 1>all reviews websites. They basically test out a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>products and come up with not just one perfect product,

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<v Speaker 1>but kind of good products for what your needs are. Yes, So, Lauren,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me about you test headphones for a living, for

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<v Speaker 1>a living full time.

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<v Speaker 2>Despite what my mother might tell you, it's a real job.

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<v Speaker 1>So just all day, every day, all day every day.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's all I do is essentially I get in

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<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch of headphones, I try them out, I

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<v Speaker 2>get a panel to listen to them. We do things

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<v Speaker 2>like sweat testing and run testing and durability testing, and

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<v Speaker 2>from there we kind of try to find the best

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<v Speaker 2>thing that fit people's needs and make their lives easier.

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<v Speaker 1>And what gives you this right to review headphones? You

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<v Speaker 1>have a pretty good history with audio.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have a pretty big audio background. I have

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<v Speaker 2>a bachelor's degree in music performance and audio production, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I went into radio for a few years, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I went into voiceover for a while. So I've

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<v Speaker 2>been in and out of professional recording booths and studios

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<v Speaker 2>and seeing what professionals are using. And then I started

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<v Speaker 2>writing Oh Gosh about like ten plus years ago for

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<v Speaker 2>Sound and Vision and other audio review sites and web

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<v Speaker 2>and magazines. And then from there Wirecutter came out about

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<v Speaker 2>five years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now I give my explanation a Wirecutter, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to add yours.

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<v Speaker 2>Essentially, we find the stuff that fits best into your

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<v Speaker 2>life to help you do things easier and make your

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<v Speaker 2>life better. So you know, it may not be a

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<v Speaker 2>one size fits all kind of thing. We try to

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<v Speaker 2>think about different use cases and different people's needs. So

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<v Speaker 2>whereas other things other sites might just say this is

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<v Speaker 2>the best thing in a vacuum, Well, it might not

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<v Speaker 2>work if you have a small apartment, may not work.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were a single mom, it may not work.

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<v Speaker 2>So we think about the different ways that you might

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<v Speaker 2>use something, and we try to find something to fit

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<v Speaker 2>your needs as opposed to just what the best thing is.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we're going to do one, two, three, We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do four types of headphones here, okay for

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<v Speaker 1>various use case scenarios. So your first pick is least expensive,

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<v Speaker 1>this is your workhorse. What's your pick, so the job remove.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been our pick actually for a couple of years now,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're super durable. They sound way better than you think.

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<v Speaker 2>They're really comfortable, so you can wear them a really

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<v Speaker 2>long time and they won't bother your ears. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of times you'll notice with cheap headphones book cut corners

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<v Speaker 2>by putting in crappy foam or weird plasticky parts, and

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<v Speaker 2>you'll kind of cut into you and so you maybe

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<v Speaker 2>wear them for an hour and then you start finding

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<v Speaker 2>yourself wanting to take them off and give your.

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<v Speaker 1>Ears a break.

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<v Speaker 2>You won't have that problem with these. So that's why

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<v Speaker 2>I love them is they're really easy to use buttons.

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<v Speaker 2>They're very comfortable, and a lot of stuff out there

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<v Speaker 2>isn't and they sound great.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're also flexible. When you first showed them to me,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of flex them around, So I like that aspect.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we move on to our kids pick, which I

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<v Speaker 1>really think they look very cool. I know you can't

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<v Speaker 1>see them on the podcast. But they look really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>They look like a premium, like one thousand dollars pair

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<v Speaker 1>of headphones. But tell them I have a certain thing

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<v Speaker 1>where I have to have headphones that kind of cup

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<v Speaker 1>over my ears because I don't like them when they

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<v Speaker 1>sit on my ear. Is that like a preference or

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<v Speaker 1>is it.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally a preference? So we have on ear versus over ear,

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<v Speaker 2>and we actually have different picks for people like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So and you're not alone. People that wear glasses tend

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<v Speaker 2>to like on ear because they don't interfere with the

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<v Speaker 2>arms on their glasses. People like you maybe like over

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<v Speaker 2>ear because it doesn't feel as like compressed on their

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<v Speaker 2>actual outer ear area.

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<v Speaker 1>So we do have pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Sort of things the job remove are on ear, and

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<v Speaker 2>generally because of the size of the drivers and that's

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<v Speaker 2>like the little cone thing inside of a speaker, except

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<v Speaker 2>smaller in headphones, those things tend to be more expensive

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<v Speaker 2>the bigger you get. So if you have bigger over

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<v Speaker 2>your headphones, that tend to cost more money. So you'll

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<v Speaker 2>find that like on ears, tend to usually cost a

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<v Speaker 2>little less than the over ear counterpart.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. Okay, so let's get into the kids pick that

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<v Speaker 1>you have, and these, like I said, these look like

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<v Speaker 1>a very expensive pair of headphones. What's your pick?

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<v Speaker 2>So the PUROBT twenty two hundred and what I love

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<v Speaker 2>about these is they may not look like kids headphones.

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<v Speaker 2>And we thought when we tested it with a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of kids, so we got some you know, three year olds,

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<v Speaker 2>four year olds, ten year olds, and we wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>see what they liked. And I thought they'd go for

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<v Speaker 2>the fun cartoon colors, and that they really didn't. They

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<v Speaker 2>wanted something that looked like grown ups headphones, and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff out there is very breakable, kind of disposable,

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<v Speaker 2>and these will last your kids.

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<v Speaker 1>So my two year old.

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<v Speaker 2>Fit in them when I was doing stuff. They'll fit

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<v Speaker 2>them all the way up until they basically hit tween age,

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll last you well because they have metal parts,

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<v Speaker 2>they have nice solid memory foam, they have easy use buttons,

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<v Speaker 2>but most importantly, they have volume limiting, so kids may

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<v Speaker 2>not be able to pay attention to the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>they're turning their music up too loud, and that can

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<v Speaker 2>damage their hearing really quickly. In fact, some of the

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<v Speaker 2>headphones we test it got to jackhammer levels and.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not Okay, so what is this limit?

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<v Speaker 2>It to eighty five dB. So that's the World Health

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<v Speaker 2>Organization's limit. That's what they say is recommended. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a part of a noise diet. There's a whole

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<v Speaker 2>other thing we could go into about how your ears

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<v Speaker 2>deal with loud sounds. Not about one loud impact. It's

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<v Speaker 2>about the larger picture.

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<v Speaker 1>That you take in through a day.

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<v Speaker 2>But eighty five dB over eight hours is considered generally

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<v Speaker 2>speaking safe. So your kids can put these on, they

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<v Speaker 2>can try to crank them up as loud as they want,

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<v Speaker 2>but they can't go into what's considered unsafe volumes.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. And they're Bluetooth. They've got an unoff switch, they've

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<v Speaker 1>got a volume switch. They also have a plug if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go wired.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And they have a micro USB charger on there. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>you were stepping on them earlier and they still look great.

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<v Speaker 2>So literally took them and I are combat boots for

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<v Speaker 2>the ones that the kids like the best, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just stomped around on them, because that's what happens. You

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<v Speaker 2>drop them in the car, kids step on them, they do.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what's great about these things is that they

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<v Speaker 2>are built to last you. So yes, it may seem

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<v Speaker 2>like you're spending a little more money, but you figure

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<v Speaker 2>you could get three or four twenty dollars pairs over

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<v Speaker 2>the span of a couple of years or by one

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<v Speaker 2>and it will last you.

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<v Speaker 1>And these Puros are one hundred dollars. Yeah, round hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>So one hundred dollars for these and again kind of

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<v Speaker 1>seems expensive. But this is the thing when people don't realize,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you said, if you spend twenty dollars on the

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon basics or whatever they are, you know, you buy

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<v Speaker 1>three pairs of those because they break all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>You might as well buy one nice pair, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>investing in safety and safety. I like that idea too,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think a lot of parents don't think about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that you know, for my kids, I'm always adjusting

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<v Speaker 1>like their headphones. I'm like, let me listen to that before,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course an hour later I listen again and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like cranked up yep. So I do agree, set

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<v Speaker 1>it and forget it a little bit. I'll be purchasing

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<v Speaker 1>those through your affiliate link, of course. Okay, So, Jabra,

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<v Speaker 1>this is your best alternative to the AirPods. Yes, tell

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<v Speaker 1>me about these.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've got Actually they have two different versions of these,

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<v Speaker 2>so there's the Elite sixty five T and then the

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<v Speaker 2>Elite Active sixty five T. The Elite Active, the main

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<v Speaker 2>difference is they're a little more sweat resistant, and they

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<v Speaker 2>also have a little bit of fitness tracking, which isn't

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<v Speaker 2>that important honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>They use an app most of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Right and honestly most people that are really serious about

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<v Speaker 2>that and they use a watch or something else. But

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<v Speaker 2>for me, the Elites are also sweat resistant, water resistant,

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<v Speaker 2>dust resistant, And what I love about these is well,

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<v Speaker 2>the AirPods are great for using on a Mac and

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<v Speaker 2>if you have a lot of Apple products and you're

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<v Speaker 2>transferring from one to another, they transition beautifully because they

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<v Speaker 2>have that W one chip, which is their version of Bluetooth.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically it's pretty seamless. But aside from that, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>do a whole lot else really well. The Jabra they're Elite,

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<v Speaker 2>the sixty five T and the Act of sixty five

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<v Speaker 2>T sound better, stay in, better, fit better, have more controls,

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<v Speaker 2>and are more durable because they have the water and

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<v Speaker 2>sweat resistance. So essentially, unless you're a hardcore Maac fan,

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<v Speaker 2>these are really going to do a lot more for you.

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<v Speaker 2>And they also have four microphones in them, so they

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<v Speaker 2>do really great video chats, voice calls. I people a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of times to be like, wait, do you have

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<v Speaker 2>something in because they can't even see them, and they

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<v Speaker 2>sound fantastic. And they also help to reduce background noise,

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<v Speaker 2>so if you're working in an office or if you're

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<v Speaker 2>working at the gym, they transition really well between both.

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<v Speaker 2>And they have about the same battery life and they

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<v Speaker 2>cost about the same which is around one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And it looks like they come in sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>charging case similar to what the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing so you get it's the same thing as AirPods

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<v Speaker 2>where it's like you get about four to five hour

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<v Speaker 2>use in your ears and then you put them in

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll charge fully two more times each, you know

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<v Speaker 2>when you put them in.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, you know, So if you're not, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in love with the Apple stuff or you don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>need that, go with the job where you get more

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<v Speaker 1>features for about the same price. All right, now, finally

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<v Speaker 1>on the table here we've got the noise canceling pick.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting because I bought my first pair of Bows.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was like when I first started at

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<v Speaker 1>KTLA eight years ago. I was going to Japan and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, do I spend three hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>dollars on a pair of headphones. I was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I've seen all the advertising, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, and I've loved them ever since. They've lasted

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<v Speaker 1>since then, by the way, so that's been eight years.

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<v Speaker 1>But your pick, I am verified here you have a

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<v Speaker 1>pair of Bows as your top sort of noise canceling headphones.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me about these. What are these called?

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<v Speaker 2>So the QC thirty five Mark two, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>really long name. But what makes them different is that,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, Bos has their noise canceling you just

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<v Speaker 2>the best. They've cornered the market on that. They're just

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<v Speaker 2>really fantastic at getting down especially the low to mid

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<v Speaker 2>range frequencies, which means like airplane noise, of cars, outside

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<v Speaker 2>traffic sounds, air conditioner sounds. They'll drop that down really

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<v Speaker 2>really well. And then you know, one of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that Bose also has is with these they have the

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<v Speaker 2>built in if you're someone who use a serie, they

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<v Speaker 2>connect to Siri. If you use an Android, they connect

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<v Speaker 2>also to Google and they connect to Alexa. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>one button that will trigger all of those who whatever

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<v Speaker 2>system you use, you can also get those.

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<v Speaker 1>It's certified for all those sort of flexible yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>not just in one kind of silo there. I also

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<v Speaker 1>know this, there's NFC on here, which I know Apple

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<v Speaker 1>people don't really care about that. But if you have

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<v Speaker 1>an Android, it's really nice because you literally just tap

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<v Speaker 1>your phone to this to pair it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Super easy pairing. Yeah, and that's I know. That's actually

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<v Speaker 2>a really great feature. That is, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people overlook if you aren't naturally an

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<v Speaker 2>Android person. So that's why I think I like about

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<v Speaker 2>these a lot, is that no matter what type of

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<v Speaker 2>system you use, if you switch around between them, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you use more one thing at work and one thing

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<v Speaker 2>at home, they'll adapt really well.

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<v Speaker 1>To Okay, but you're paying the price. How much are these?

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<v Speaker 1>There are three fifty three fifty Now they used to

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<v Speaker 1>do that twelve payment plan. I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see that advertised anymore anymore. I just bought mine

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<v Speaker 1>out right, but I always saw that in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the ads. But I don't think they do that, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren Dragon from Wirecutter, thank you so much. How can

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<v Speaker 1>people get in touch with you and the website?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so wirecutter dot com. We are also we're owned

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<v Speaker 2>by the New York Times, so you can also go

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<v Speaker 2>through the New York Times. And if you want me specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>if you have specific headphones about questions about headphones, you

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<v Speaker 2>can always find me. I'm on Twitter, I'm on Facebook,

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<v Speaker 2>but just at Lauren Dragon.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, then an and there's many more picks. We just

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<v Speaker 1>did four, but you, like you said, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>full time job for you. So if you have questions

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<v Speaker 1>about headphones or you want to pick the perfect headphones

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<v Speaker 1>for your situation, you even Lauren even has a pick

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<v Speaker 1>for weightlifters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, specifically for weightlifters.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy that ge that gets really really specific here.

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<v Speaker 1>So thanks so much for joining me today. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>good stuff on these headphones, just go to my website.

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<v Speaker 1>It's rich on tech TV. Thanks for listening. I'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you real soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Mhmm