WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Quarter-Season Review 0:00:01.280 --> 0:00:03.800 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.960 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:10.680 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:15.040 Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:19.239 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:25.520 wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:30.480 Derek Eagleton. It is Tuesday, October second, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen, 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:34.320 episode number fifty one. Welcome to another edition of The Break, 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.280 live from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, it's 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:40.120 a Tuesday, Big picture Tuesday. We get a chance to 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:42.400 take a step back and look at this team overall 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:45.360 through four weeks of the season. It's the quarter mark. 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:49.240 Cowboys have played a quarter of the season, and we'll 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:51.680 get to some questions here throughout the show that will 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.440 help us kind of give you guys a better idea 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:56.240 of kind of the big picture of what's happening with 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:59.640 this team right now. How's everybody filming this point? I 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:02.800 am great, Derek awesome. So what we're gonna do Before 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:04.800 we get to that, though, I do have a few 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:07.840 a few news and notes that I want to catch 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:12.040 up on. Zeke and we mentioned this yesterday. Zeke after 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:14.720 that game's limping pretty bad, and it was pretty noticeable 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.080 that he was limping. Where do we stand right now 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:22.440 with Ezekiel Elliott and his health. Zeke's fine, that's I mean, 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:26.039 he's they're calling it bursitis in his knee, and I 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.800 think he dinged his ankle a little bit. But he's 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.320 got two different issues. And these are things of football 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:34.520 players play through, especially twenty four year old All Pro 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:37.280 running backs. I mean, you know, even at the quarter 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:38.720 point of the season, I think every guy on this 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:42.119 team has probably got a thing, and I don't think 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:45.800 it's going to limit him whatsoever. Jason Garrett said that. 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:50.000 You know, when Garrett says he thinks he's gonna be fine, 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.640 then he probably is. So he didn't really make a 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.400 big deal out of it. You know, he obviously was 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.560 playing through it in the game and running by people 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:01.800 and making big play. I think after a week, you know, 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.920 he might get held out of practice, you know, Wednesday, 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:09.280 But get those recovery sleeves on your legs and that 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:12.680 blood flowing. Yeah, I don't spend too much time on 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:15.040 your feet if you don't have to. But I think 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:17.000 I think he'll be Okay, we haven't really seen the 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:20.560 running back kind of held out for practice though, right 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:26.840 we used to twenty two geez, dating yourselves a little bit. 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:29.440 You get some time during the week, didn't he I 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.519 don't remember this. You don't remember. If I remember and 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.160 you don't remember, that's I don't remember Himmett getting held out. 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.680 I don't even trust my memories. Remember, don't remember. Injury 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:41.040 report looked like back then, but like he got some 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.799 veta didn't You didn't take those updates to Twitter back then, 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:48.680 you didn't know. You just kind of walk over somebody's office. Hey, 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:51.560 miss practice. That point is is that when it comes 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:54.519 to installing the game plan, you know, as we saw 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:56.519 last week, he's a big part of the game plan 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.360 and he should be. So I don't know, you know, 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:02.240 if it's just Rod Smith does this, Rod Smith does that, 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:04.799 but really we know it's Zeke. I bet you he'll 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:06.880 be fine. Jerry Jones went on the radio this morning 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:09.680 and was like, I really liked the workload that he got. 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:11.560 I think he should be doing that. I think he 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:13.640 can do that, and I think he'll be fine. I 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.760 hope he's saying that in the meetings when he's talking 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:17.200 to the guy. I hope so too, so that they 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:19.919 understand that the boss would really like to see this too, 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:23.560 and a little bit more co sign. I'm with Jerry. 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:26.680 I think he said something about lands thumbar that one year, right, 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.720 and then Sar got ten catches in the first game 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:34.399 of the season, So yeah, that happens. They listen, Yeah, 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.440 hopefully if they want to keep a job. All right, 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.200 So let's let's talk about another guy that's that's his 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.120 situation is a little bit different, David Irving. He's returning 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.160 this week. Dave, you wrote an article about kind of 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:48.760 what you should expect and what fans should expect. I 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:50.960 guess here in the short term, and let's look at 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.200 it from two perspectives. In the short term, for this week, 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.040 what should you expect, and then going into next week, 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:57.960 in the following week, what you should expect for a 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:01.080 guy that's missed four weeks. But this is not unprecedented 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.520 for him having had to miss four weeks before. For 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.160 it's not unprecedented for him having to miss four weeks 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:08.360 of games. It is unprecedented for him to not have 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:11.840 a training camp and not have not play real football 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:15.200 in a long time, because I mean, okay, he hasn't 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:20.760 practiced since the June mini camp that was three half practices. 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.320 There's no contact there. That's I mean, that's not football. 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:25.200 You know, I couldn't do it, no offense, but it's 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.800 not football. You could do it and no, could not. 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:29.839 And he missed the final month of last season two 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:34.400 so really he has not played real football since thanks Giving. 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:37.279 I get no, not Thanksgiving, the Redskins game the week 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.960 after Thanksgiving last year. So November thirtieth was the last 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:44.800 time David Irving played a real football snap. So you know, 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:46.720 I think a lot of times that's lip service when 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.280 Jason Garrett says we're just gonna take it day by day, 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:54.159 but it's true. This time. I believe that, And you know, 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.080 I know, you know, it's our job to speculate, and 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:57.680 people want to know, like, well, who's the cut going 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:59.400 to be. I don't think you can sit here on 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.240 Tuesday morning and say he's even gonna be on the 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:04.920 roster for this game. I really think you take him 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.080 through this week. There's three days of practice to see 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:09.200 what kind of condition he's in. He has been here, 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.440 he has been working out to his credit, So hopefully 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:14.200 he's in some kind of shape, but that's still not 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:17.200 football shape. So I would guess they're gonna wait. They 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.680 have a one week exemption. I would guess they're gonna 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.160 wait until Friday or Saturday to make a call on 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:24.559 whether they think he can contribute in this game, and 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:28.479 only then will they make a roster move. Once he's back. 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:30.479 What do you guys expect from him? Let's assume that 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.360 we get to next week's assume they don't do anything 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:35.440 this week. They kind of just kind of pause. Do 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.360 you what do you expect from him going into next 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.200 week when it's when he is back and ready to play, Like, 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:43.360 does he immediately jump into that rotation? Is he immediately 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:45.359 the guy that's going to be out there at the 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.359 beginning of the game, Like, what do you expect to 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:51.040 see from him? Well? I think the differences is because 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:55.920 last time he was here, they didn't have Gregory, and 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:59.040 because of Gregory, I think that it has forced Tyrone 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:03.640 Crawford more in side. So he's not really a one 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:08.280 technique guy. But no, he I mean he's put him 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:09.799 on the field. Yeah, he's put him on the field. 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.000 Just find a place, yeah, yeah, yeah, play him wherever 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:14.679 you can. I mean I like him more at tackle 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.360 than end, but get him on the field whatever. Yeah, 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:19.640 I mean he was dominant one game at end against 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:22.760 the Buccaneers. I believe he was just killing that right 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.920 tackle over there. So he he's that's a good way 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:27.640 to say it. Put him on the field type of guy, 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:29.800 and then they'll find a spot for him. We'll see 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.320 what kind of you know, what kind of shape he's 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.600 in and what And I don't know about this week 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:36.920 or next week, but whenever he's out there, Yeah, he's 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:39.159 immediately in the rotation. Does he get forced back into 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:42.800 the rotation because of Antoine Woods, because of Malie Collins 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:44.960 to both those guys are injured as now? Forced back 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:47.520 in the rotation because he had seven sacks in eight games. 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:49.760 Now I'm saying, I'm saying, even as of this week, 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.280 even though you may think he's not quite ready, Yes, 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:54.600 does that force him back into at least take some 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:56.640 snaps and that there's a lot of moving parts here. 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:00.480 Antoine Woods hurt his calf. They don't know for sure 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:02.359 what he's gonna be able to do. They're optimistic he 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.599 can practice if his injuries better than they think then 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.520 maybe you keep Irving on the shelf for an extra week. 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:12.040 Or if Irving comes out and is just Gangbusters, then 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:17.200 even better. M Collins is in there. I mean there 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:18.960 really are. That's why you know, Like I said, this 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.480 isn't lip service, like Malik Collins could be coming back. 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.880 If Irving's conditioning is good, you could cut Karan Read, 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.520 who you just signed to get through this thing. If 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.440 Malik is still not there or Antoine Woods is still 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:33.720 not there, then you obviously keep Karan Read, which could 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:37.400 force Irving into playing even if he's not ready. Or 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.520 if all of that works out, you could maybe part 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.040 ways with one of your twenty five wide receivers. Um. 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:44.840 It just it really does depend. And that's why I 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:47.240 don't think there will be a firm answer on it 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:51.440 until later in the week. It doesn't seem like buy 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.640 a house, you know, I mean, I would guess not. 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:57.200 He's staying at the Omnis, that's the one. There's a 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.120 hotel over here. You might just want to get a 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:02.920 room there. Don't don't even unpack, just stuff tackle do 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:06.840 they have? They got they got my Leak, they got Woods, 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:11.360 they got Ross, they got Karan Read. And then Crawford 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:14.000 and Tyrone. Yeah, so really five and then he'll come 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:17.440 in here. So I mean, technically you don't even need five, 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:21.720 you need like four. So I don't know. I mean 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:23.720 I kind of thought all along. I thought when Daniel 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.080 Ross made the team, I thought that that might be 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.960 a situation for Irving whenever he comes in, And he 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.520 could be too, I mean, if everybody else is healthy. Again, 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.480 that's but you're right, you're a little you're a little 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.840 heavy at receiver, a little bit tight end. Yeah. The 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:41.120 other thing too, is, um, it's worth mentioning. So let's 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.400 just assume Irving doesn't go in this game, which, like 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.320 if I had to bet right now, I think they'll 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.280 find a way to get him up for this game. Um, 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.920 seven sacks and eight games is and I think I've 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:54.960 heard two different Cowboys officials call him like a super 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:58.520 freak or something like that this week, So I think 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:00.439 he'll be ready. But even if he's if he's not, 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.520 then he automatically reverts to the roster on Monday and 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:06.080 somebody has to go, so they don't have to do 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.560 anything this week if they don't want to. But he 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:12.400 will be on the roster Monday, let's move topics. I 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.360 want to talk a little bit about the safety position. 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:16.960 I tied this up yesterday when we were talking about 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.120 the safeties and really talking about it from the standpoint 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.600 of the issues that the Cowboys had this past Sunday 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:26.720 at safety, particularly in my opinion, Jeff Heath, who I think, 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:28.520 to be honest with you, I think before this game 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:31.000 and had a pretty good season. Those first three games. 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.400 I thought he played pretty well. This was not one 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:35.400 of the games that he'll send home to mom and say, Mom, 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:38.079 look at how well I'm playing football for the Dallas Cowboys. 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:40.720 It just wasn't a great day for him. He had mistackles, 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:44.200 He had situations where like the touchdown where he just 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:48.880 misplayed the play right. So not like him, but it 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:51.480 was it was what he put out there. And just 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.440 looking at this safety position, I guess the big overall 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:56.960 question I have for you guys is do you think 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:01.280 that even though this defense overall has some pretty good spots, 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.000 I mean some really good spots, do you think safety 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:07.480 has to be the potential to, as Bill Parcels used 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.640 to say, hold you hostage, like literally, make your defense 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:15.400 not as good because of one position, because of one 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:20.240 player or one position. Yes, yeah, unequivocally, that's the one 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.000 that you could be a touchdown seventy yards if you're 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.480 just not if one guy doesn't do his job. And 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:28.920 that's which I apologize, Derek. I haven't had a chance 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:30.960 to actually chart it, but like you don't need to 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:33.760 in some degrees, Like I mean, I feel perfectly confident 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:36.160 saying I think I said this yesterday, but like those 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:41.120 forty and fifty Chunkyard touchdowns were that if you can 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:43.320 give Rod Marinelli credit for one thing, even when his 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:45.959 defense is here haven't been good. They don't give those up. 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.600 You know, Barry Church was great at preventing those players 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:52.040 from going the distance, and they've managed to keep a 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:53.840 lid on it for the most part over the last 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:56.920 five years. Three in the last two games, I mean, 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.600 Golden Tate torched him. Tyler Lockett torched him. Like it's 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:03.280 weird see that. And so there's enough talent on the 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:06.080 rest of this defense that you feel pretty good about it. 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:09.800 But that is highly troubling when you're giving up like 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:12.720 just bad touchdowns again, like you want to make them 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:14.640 drive the field, kick a field goal if you can 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.760 force that. But even still the more players the defense 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:19.920 has to run, the better your chance of stopping them 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:22.480 or getting a takeaway are forty five yards and a 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.679 touchdown one play. It's disastrous. Yeah. Go back to the 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.160 offseason and Dave, you and I want Yeah, we were 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.680 talking about want me today, Okay, And I want to 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:35.439 preface this by saying, all throughout last offseason we're having conversations. 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.200 We were, you know, kind of kind of talking a 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.199 little bit about Earl Thomas, and you mean, hey, you 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:42.520 should the Cowboys look at that, you know, But but 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:44.960 they were also and you kept reminding everybody there were 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.920 safeties that were available last year in free agency that 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:49.880 if the Cowboys feel like they needed help at safety, 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:51.640 they could go and get one of these veteran guys 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.320 that you thought could help them. Now, there were questions 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.240 about scheme fit, and we'll talk about that in just 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:58.640 a second, but you, I know, you went back and 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:00.640 looked at how those guys have. Some of those guys 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:02.600 that you were mentioning in the offseason that signed with 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:04.679 other teams, and some of them didn't sign until training camp, 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.240 so you had opportunities all the way up through training camp. 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.960 But you went back and looked at how some of 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.400 them have performed so far here in the early part 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:14.000 of season. Let's talk about that a little bit. Give 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:16.440 me some of those guys and tell us how they've 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:18.160 performed so far this year, some of the guys that 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:20.480 Cowboys passed up on. I want to preface this by 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.040 set like I'm I'm not here to come for jeff 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:24.920 Heath because I think he would be a starter on 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.520 this team even if you had added another safety. And 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:30.679 I think when he's healthy, he's good more often than 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.800 he's bad. He played really poorly against Detroit. He's dealing 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:36.120 with about three different injuries. I'm not trying to make 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:38.880 excuses for the guy, but I've seen him make plays before. 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.000 And I'll say this real quick, throw that in. I've 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.360 heard Nick say this before, and I think it's wholeheartedly true. 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:45.959 If Jeffe is your second or third best safety, you're 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:49.240 in a great situation. When Jeffie is your best safety, 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:51.240 now you're a little bit more wire. I'll take that 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.720 a step further and say, if he's the worst player 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:56.920 in your secondary, your secondary's probably pretty good. And if 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.640 he's the best, it's probably pretty bad. You got two 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.160 really great building blocks in your outside corners, and you 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.440 could have a really good safety because you're right. I 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.720 went back and looked. Tyron Matthew through four games with 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:12.520 the Houston Texans, has twenty three tackles, an interception, a 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:16.680 forced fumble, a fumble recovery, and three pass breakups. Trey 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:21.120 Boston with the Cardinals has thirty tackles, one pick, one fumble, recovery, 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:24.640 three pass breakups. Kenny Vacaro with the Titans, who he 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:26.719 just got hurt, but in three game three and a 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.320 half games, seventeen tackles, a pick, a sack, and a 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:35.640 pass breakup in two starts each. Cavon Frazier has thirteen tackles, 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:39.880 a pass breakup, and a sack. Okay, Xavier Woods has 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:44.760 five tackles and no other stats. I was just sitting 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.880 all that. Jeff has seventeen tackles and a pass breakup 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:52.360 and a missed opportunity at an interception in week one. 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:57.480 I believe the other thing, tyn Okay, Well, so the 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:00.360 other thing I want to say, forget Earl Thomas. He's 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:02.400 the best of the bunch. We all know that he's 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.360 done now. Not only is he done, but he would 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.960 have cost a pretty Penny in both a trade and 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:11.160 a contract extension. I'm even gonna say forget Eric Reid 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:15.040 because there are I believe other circumstances that go into 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:18.320 why he just now signed with a team. Just forget 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:21.200 those guys. That still leaves you with three veteran safeties 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:23.480 who are putting up stats for their team, who have 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:28.120 combined for five takeaways for their defense and just seemed 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.560 to be contributing really well. Tyron Matthew is on a 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:33.560 one year, seven million dollar deal. Trey Boston and Kenney 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:37.240 Vacaro are both making one point five million. This team 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.160 has about eighteen million in cap space. You could theoretically 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:41.920 afford to have all three of them on this team. 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:46.840 The Cowboys didn't want them, and I don't understand. And yeah, 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:48.760 if you want to talk scheme fit, we can. I 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:51.280 don't buy it. I like to have good players on 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:55.880 my team, and I think the Cowboys just missed the 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:58.640 boat when given an opportunity to put good players on 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:02.280 this team. My only question to that would be, and 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:06.400 those stats look good. They what's not on there for 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:09.400 Heath is that he gave up a touchdown, you know, 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:11.800 And it's not on there for Frasiers that he was 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.080 late getting over there in Seattle. I don't know that. 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.480 Do you know that about the other right guys doesn't 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.080 show up on the statue? You're right, but I don't 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:23.440 know that you might take that for something. Lease For 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:26.720 Honey Badger's stats, I mean they look pretty good. I 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:28.920 mean he's active, so you might take a touchdown or 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.080 two or something like that. I'm sure they're doing some 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.200 some of that. My goal at the end of I 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:35.760 want to chart the way these guys are playing and 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:38.280 sit down with game pass. I haven't had time. I'm sorry. 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:40.560 So you're right. It's not fair to just go off 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:44.120 of stat sheets, especially for a position like safety where 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.440 so much is dependent on other things. But it looks 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:48.240 pretty good now. I mean, they're gonna have to give 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.520 up a bunch of touchdowns each to be late to 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.320 make that argument. I think what you said is perfect. 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:56.560 They're active. I don't know that the guys on this 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.320 team are active enough. Um and yeah, I mean, if 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:01.840 you're gonna give up a touchdown, at least come up 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:05.520 and make I mean, Trey Boston's got thirty tackles. What 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:09.000 team does he's on Arizona? So he's playing well for 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.360 a bad team. I mean, they're the only winless team 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:14.840 in the whole league, I believe. And Tyrone Matthews Houston, Yeah, 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.520 we're gonna see him this weekend, so he's gonna have 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.280 a he's gonna have a chance to make an impression. 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:21.920 Is there anything that you can say from the opposite 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:25.240 side of that that would make this kind of after 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.360 the facts? Second guessing? I know you've been saying it 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.560 this whole time, but speaking from the Cowboys perspective, were 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.320 there reasons outside a scheme fit? Which that's just one 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:36.040 of those situations where you and you disagree with all 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.480 the organization looks at it. You know, I'm not a 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:42.160 football coach. You know, Chris Richard has forgotten more about 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:43.960 football than I'll ever know. He played it at a 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:47.280 high level in college and pro. I get that. And 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:49.320 if they say he's not a scheme fit, that's fine. 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.360 I say this goes back to my argument with Taco Charlton. 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.360 He's not a right end, So the hell what you 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:56.600 need a left end too. You need football players, you 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.840 need guys who can do the job. You need a safety. 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.880 If Jeff Heath has to play free because these guys 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:06.280 aren't suited for it, so be it. Maybe I'd still 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:10.320 rather have two proven, competent safeties and one of them 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:13.600 is not a scheme fit and then throw Cavon Frasier 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:16.320 and Xavier Woods to the Wolves. Like literally, That's what 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:19.600 I've said all along is even when this team feels 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:21.879 good about a player, they're usually pretty good about bringing 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:24.600 in competition for him. They do it everywhere else, and 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:27.439 these young guys just they were like, Nope, you're it. 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:29.760 We feel great about you, better go do it. And 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:31.840 it doesn't look great through the first month of the season. 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:33.880 It's pretty arrogant when you think of it like that, 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:37.800 when you think, well, we don't want to sign Tyrone 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:41.960 Matthew because it doesn't fit our scheme. But yet we're 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:46.560 gonna play Xavier Woods who's unproven, and Cavon Frasier into 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:52.040 this scheme. Why not why not change the scheme a 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.280 little bit then, you know what I mean? That's exactly, 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:56.320 Or give it a shot to see if he could fit. 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.960 I mean, he's a pretty good athlete, so maybe he 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:01.480 could fit if you bring him in and try him out. 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:04.360 Like I just thought that that the Cowboys didn't leave 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.560 themselves legal room. I'm okay with the idea of them 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:08.960 going into the season saying, hey, we really want to 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:11.320 give this young guy a shot. But to me, that's 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:13.360 no reason why you wouldn't at least take a vet 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:16.080 with you to training camp and maybe have that vet 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:18.600 on the team so that in this kind of situation 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:21.040 where you are right now, you've got options. You wouldn't 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:24.359 have had to play Cavon Frasier in that last game 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.760 where you where he got where he got beat there 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.919 in Seattle, Like that kind of situation to me, was 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:31.840 where you could have had a veteran here that gave you, 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.600 gives you more options. What is the worst that could happen? Again? Well, 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:36.679 I'll even you know, if you I'll even throw the 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:39.320 honey Badger out Because seven million dollars is not an 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:42.639 insignificant amount of money. Trey Boston and Kenny Vacaro are 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:46.440 basically making minimum for guys of their stature, one one 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:50.359 and a half million. Like they pay guys more not 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.160 to play than you pay for that. I mean, I've 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:57.080 seen this team cut Jasper Brinkley, Nolan Carroll, Demontre Moore, 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:01.800 Stephen Paya, bring him in and hopefully. I mean, you 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.280 want your young guys to outplay them. But that's the 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:05.760 way this works. It's the way they do it at 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.840 every other position is they bring in competition. And you know, 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:10.320 if we got to pay a guy one point five 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:12.640 million to get cut, that's just the cost of doing business. 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:17.400 But now you don't have those options. And through four games, 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:20.320 I don't you know, they're not awful, but they have 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:22.679 not looked like what you hope they would be. I think, 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:24.959 deep down, I think the keV was always thought they 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:26.359 were going to get earl time. There you go, and 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:27.720