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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Tuesday, October second, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen,
Speaker 1: episode number fifty one. Welcome to another edition of The Break,
Speaker 1: live from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, it's
Speaker 1: a Tuesday, Big picture Tuesday. We get a chance to
Speaker 1: take a step back and look at this team overall
Speaker 1: through four weeks of the season. It's the quarter mark.
Speaker 1: Cowboys have played a quarter of the season, and we'll
Speaker 1: get to some questions here throughout the show that will
Speaker 1: help us kind of give you guys a better idea
Speaker 1: of kind of the big picture of what's happening with
Speaker 1: this team right now. How's everybody filming this point? I
Speaker 1: am great, Derek awesome. So what we're gonna do Before
Speaker 1: we get to that, though, I do have a few
Speaker 1: a few news and notes that I want to catch
Speaker 1: up on. Zeke and we mentioned this yesterday. Zeke after
Speaker 1: that game's limping pretty bad, and it was pretty noticeable
Speaker 1: that he was limping. Where do we stand right now
Speaker 1: with Ezekiel Elliott and his health. Zeke's fine, that's I mean,
Speaker 1: he's they're calling it bursitis in his knee, and I
Speaker 1: think he dinged his ankle a little bit. But he's
Speaker 1: got two different issues. And these are things of football
Speaker 1: players play through, especially twenty four year old All Pro
Speaker 1: running backs. I mean, you know, even at the quarter
Speaker 1: point of the season, I think every guy on this
Speaker 1: team has probably got a thing, and I don't think
Speaker 1: it's going to limit him whatsoever. Jason Garrett said that.
Speaker 1: You know, when Garrett says he thinks he's gonna be fine,
Speaker 1: then he probably is. So he didn't really make a
Speaker 1: big deal out of it. You know, he obviously was
Speaker 1: playing through it in the game and running by people
Speaker 1: and making big play. I think after a week, you know,
Speaker 1: he might get held out of practice, you know, Wednesday,
Speaker 1: But get those recovery sleeves on your legs and that
Speaker 1: blood flowing. Yeah, I don't spend too much time on
Speaker 1: your feet if you don't have to. But I think
Speaker 1: I think he'll be Okay, we haven't really seen the
Speaker 1: running back kind of held out for practice though, right
Speaker 1: we used to twenty two geez, dating yourselves a little bit.
Speaker 1: You get some time during the week, didn't he I
Speaker 1: don't remember this. You don't remember. If I remember and
Speaker 1: you don't remember, that's I don't remember Himmett getting held out.
Speaker 1: I don't even trust my memories. Remember, don't remember. Injury
Speaker 1: report looked like back then, but like he got some
Speaker 1: veta didn't You didn't take those updates to Twitter back then,
Speaker 1: you didn't know. You just kind of walk over somebody's office. Hey,
Speaker 1: miss practice. That point is is that when it comes
Speaker 1: to installing the game plan, you know, as we saw
Speaker 1: last week, he's a big part of the game plan
Speaker 1: and he should be. So I don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: if it's just Rod Smith does this, Rod Smith does that,
Speaker 1: but really we know it's Zeke. I bet you he'll
Speaker 1: be fine. Jerry Jones went on the radio this morning
Speaker 1: and was like, I really liked the workload that he got.
Speaker 1: I think he should be doing that. I think he
Speaker 1: can do that, and I think he'll be fine. I
Speaker 1: hope he's saying that in the meetings when he's talking
Speaker 1: to the guy. I hope so too, so that they
Speaker 1: understand that the boss would really like to see this too,
Speaker 1: and a little bit more co sign. I'm with Jerry.
Speaker 1: I think he said something about lands thumbar that one year, right,
Speaker 1: and then Sar got ten catches in the first game
Speaker 1: of the season, So yeah, that happens. They listen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: hopefully if they want to keep a job. All right,
Speaker 1: So let's let's talk about another guy that's that's his
Speaker 1: situation is a little bit different, David Irving. He's returning
Speaker 1: this week. Dave, you wrote an article about kind of
Speaker 1: what you should expect and what fans should expect. I
Speaker 1: guess here in the short term, and let's look at
Speaker 1: it from two perspectives. In the short term, for this week,
Speaker 1: what should you expect, and then going into next week,
Speaker 1: in the following week, what you should expect for a
Speaker 1: guy that's missed four weeks. But this is not unprecedented
Speaker 1: for him having had to miss four weeks before. For
Speaker 1: it's not unprecedented for him having to miss four weeks
Speaker 1: of games. It is unprecedented for him to not have
Speaker 1: a training camp and not have not play real football
Speaker 1: in a long time, because I mean, okay, he hasn't
Speaker 1: practiced since the June mini camp that was three half practices.
Speaker 1: There's no contact there. That's I mean, that's not football.
Speaker 1: You know, I couldn't do it, no offense, but it's
Speaker 1: not football. You could do it and no, could not.
Speaker 1: And he missed the final month of last season two
Speaker 1: so really he has not played real football since thanks Giving.
Speaker 1: I get no, not Thanksgiving, the Redskins game the week
Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving last year. So November thirtieth was the last
Speaker 1: time David Irving played a real football snap. So you know,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times that's lip service when
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett says we're just gonna take it day by day,
Speaker 1: but it's true. This time. I believe that, And you know,
Speaker 1: I know, you know, it's our job to speculate, and
Speaker 1: people want to know, like, well, who's the cut going
Speaker 1: to be. I don't think you can sit here on
Speaker 1: Tuesday morning and say he's even gonna be on the
Speaker 1: roster for this game. I really think you take him
Speaker 1: through this week. There's three days of practice to see
Speaker 1: what kind of condition he's in. He has been here,
Speaker 1: he has been working out to his credit, So hopefully
Speaker 1: he's in some kind of shape, but that's still not
Speaker 1: football shape. So I would guess they're gonna wait. They
Speaker 1: have a one week exemption. I would guess they're gonna
Speaker 1: wait until Friday or Saturday to make a call on
Speaker 1: whether they think he can contribute in this game, and
Speaker 1: only then will they make a roster move. Once he's back.
Speaker 1: What do you guys expect from him? Let's assume that
Speaker 1: we get to next week's assume they don't do anything
Speaker 1: this week. They kind of just kind of pause. Do
Speaker 1: you what do you expect from him going into next
Speaker 1: week when it's when he is back and ready to play, Like,
Speaker 1: does he immediately jump into that rotation? Is he immediately
Speaker 1: the guy that's going to be out there at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the game, Like, what do you expect to
Speaker 1: see from him? Well? I think the differences is because
Speaker 1: last time he was here, they didn't have Gregory, and
Speaker 1: because of Gregory, I think that it has forced Tyrone
Speaker 1: Crawford more in side. So he's not really a one
Speaker 1: technique guy. But no, he I mean he's put him
Speaker 1: on the field. Yeah, he's put him on the field.
Speaker 1: Just find a place, yeah, yeah, yeah, play him wherever
Speaker 1: you can. I mean I like him more at tackle
Speaker 1: than end, but get him on the field whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he was dominant one game at end against
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. I believe he was just killing that right
Speaker 1: tackle over there. So he he's that's a good way
Speaker 1: to say it. Put him on the field type of guy,
Speaker 1: and then they'll find a spot for him. We'll see
Speaker 1: what kind of you know, what kind of shape he's
Speaker 1: in and what And I don't know about this week
Speaker 1: or next week, but whenever he's out there, Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: immediately in the rotation. Does he get forced back into
Speaker 1: the rotation because of Antoine Woods, because of Malie Collins
Speaker 1: to both those guys are injured as now? Forced back
Speaker 1: in the rotation because he had seven sacks in eight games.
Speaker 1: Now I'm saying, I'm saying, even as of this week,
Speaker 1: even though you may think he's not quite ready, Yes,
Speaker 1: does that force him back into at least take some
Speaker 1: snaps and that there's a lot of moving parts here.
Speaker 1: Antoine Woods hurt his calf. They don't know for sure
Speaker 1: what he's gonna be able to do. They're optimistic he
Speaker 1: can practice if his injuries better than they think then
Speaker 1: maybe you keep Irving on the shelf for an extra week.
Speaker 1: Or if Irving comes out and is just Gangbusters, then
Speaker 1: even better. M Collins is in there. I mean there
Speaker 1: really are. That's why you know, Like I said, this
Speaker 1: isn't lip service, like Malik Collins could be coming back.
Speaker 1: If Irving's conditioning is good, you could cut Karan Read,
Speaker 1: who you just signed to get through this thing. If
Speaker 1: Malik is still not there or Antoine Woods is still
Speaker 1: not there, then you obviously keep Karan Read, which could
Speaker 1: force Irving into playing even if he's not ready. Or
Speaker 1: if all of that works out, you could maybe part
Speaker 1: ways with one of your twenty five wide receivers. Um.
Speaker 1: It just it really does depend. And that's why I
Speaker 1: don't think there will be a firm answer on it
Speaker 1: until later in the week. It doesn't seem like buy
Speaker 1: a house, you know, I mean, I would guess not.
Speaker 1: He's staying at the Omnis, that's the one. There's a
Speaker 1: hotel over here. You might just want to get a
Speaker 1: room there. Don't don't even unpack, just stuff tackle do
Speaker 1: they have? They got they got my Leak, they got Woods,
Speaker 1: they got Ross, they got Karan Read. And then Crawford
Speaker 1: and Tyrone. Yeah, so really five and then he'll come
Speaker 1: in here. So I mean, technically you don't even need five,
Speaker 1: you need like four. So I don't know. I mean
Speaker 1: I kind of thought all along. I thought when Daniel
Speaker 1: Ross made the team, I thought that that might be
Speaker 1: a situation for Irving whenever he comes in, And he
Speaker 1: could be too, I mean, if everybody else is healthy. Again,
Speaker 1: that's but you're right, you're a little you're a little
Speaker 1: heavy at receiver, a little bit tight end. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: other thing too, is, um, it's worth mentioning. So let's
Speaker 1: just assume Irving doesn't go in this game, which, like
Speaker 1: if I had to bet right now, I think they'll
Speaker 1: find a way to get him up for this game. Um,
Speaker 1: seven sacks and eight games is and I think I've
Speaker 1: heard two different Cowboys officials call him like a super
Speaker 1: freak or something like that this week, So I think
Speaker 1: he'll be ready. But even if he's if he's not,
Speaker 1: then he automatically reverts to the roster on Monday and
Speaker 1: somebody has to go, so they don't have to do
Speaker 1: anything this week if they don't want to. But he
Speaker 1: will be on the roster Monday, let's move topics. I
Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit about the safety position.
Speaker 1: I tied this up yesterday when we were talking about
Speaker 1: the safeties and really talking about it from the standpoint
Speaker 1: of the issues that the Cowboys had this past Sunday
Speaker 1: at safety, particularly in my opinion, Jeff Heath, who I think,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I think before this game
Speaker 1: and had a pretty good season. Those first three games.
Speaker 1: I thought he played pretty well. This was not one
Speaker 1: of the games that he'll send home to mom and say, Mom,
Speaker 1: look at how well I'm playing football for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: It just wasn't a great day for him. He had mistackles,
Speaker 1: He had situations where like the touchdown where he just
Speaker 1: misplayed the play right. So not like him, but it
Speaker 1: was it was what he put out there. And just
Speaker 1: looking at this safety position, I guess the big overall
Speaker 1: question I have for you guys is do you think
Speaker 1: that even though this defense overall has some pretty good spots,
Speaker 1: I mean some really good spots, do you think safety
Speaker 1: has to be the potential to, as Bill Parcels used
Speaker 1: to say, hold you hostage, like literally, make your defense
Speaker 1: not as good because of one position, because of one
Speaker 1: player or one position. Yes, yeah, unequivocally, that's the one
Speaker 1: that you could be a touchdown seventy yards if you're
Speaker 1: just not if one guy doesn't do his job. And
Speaker 1: that's which I apologize, Derek. I haven't had a chance
Speaker 1: to actually chart it, but like you don't need to
Speaker 1: in some degrees, Like I mean, I feel perfectly confident
Speaker 1: saying I think I said this yesterday, but like those
Speaker 1: forty and fifty Chunkyard touchdowns were that if you can
Speaker 1: give Rod Marinelli credit for one thing, even when his
Speaker 1: defense is here haven't been good. They don't give those up.
Speaker 1: You know, Barry Church was great at preventing those players
Speaker 1: from going the distance, and they've managed to keep a
Speaker 1: lid on it for the most part over the last
Speaker 1: five years. Three in the last two games, I mean,
Speaker 1: Golden Tate torched him. Tyler Lockett torched him. Like it's
Speaker 1: weird see that. And so there's enough talent on the
Speaker 1: rest of this defense that you feel pretty good about it.
Speaker 1: But that is highly troubling when you're giving up like
Speaker 1: just bad touchdowns again, like you want to make them
Speaker 1: drive the field, kick a field goal if you can
Speaker 1: force that. But even still the more players the defense
Speaker 1: has to run, the better your chance of stopping them
Speaker 1: or getting a takeaway are forty five yards and a
Speaker 1: touchdown one play. It's disastrous. Yeah. Go back to the
Speaker 1: offseason and Dave, you and I want Yeah, we were
Speaker 1: talking about want me today, Okay, And I want to
Speaker 1: preface this by saying, all throughout last offseason we're having conversations.
Speaker 1: We were, you know, kind of kind of talking a
Speaker 1: little bit about Earl Thomas, and you mean, hey, you
Speaker 1: should the Cowboys look at that, you know, But but
Speaker 1: they were also and you kept reminding everybody there were
Speaker 1: safeties that were available last year in free agency that
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys feel like they needed help at safety,
Speaker 1: they could go and get one of these veteran guys
Speaker 1: that you thought could help them. Now, there were questions
Speaker 1: about scheme fit, and we'll talk about that in just
Speaker 1: a second, but you, I know, you went back and
Speaker 1: looked at how those guys have. Some of those guys
Speaker 1: that you were mentioning in the offseason that signed with
Speaker 1: other teams, and some of them didn't sign until training camp,
Speaker 1: so you had opportunities all the way up through training camp.
Speaker 1: But you went back and looked at how some of
Speaker 1: them have performed so far here in the early part
Speaker 1: of season. Let's talk about that a little bit. Give
Speaker 1: me some of those guys and tell us how they've
Speaker 1: performed so far this year, some of the guys that
Speaker 1: Cowboys passed up on. I want to preface this by
Speaker 1: set like I'm I'm not here to come for jeff
Speaker 1: Heath because I think he would be a starter on
Speaker 1: this team even if you had added another safety. And
Speaker 1: I think when he's healthy, he's good more often than
Speaker 1: he's bad. He played really poorly against Detroit. He's dealing
Speaker 1: with about three different injuries. I'm not trying to make
Speaker 1: excuses for the guy, but I've seen him make plays before.
Speaker 1: And I'll say this real quick, throw that in. I've
Speaker 1: heard Nick say this before, and I think it's wholeheartedly true.
Speaker 1: If Jeffe is your second or third best safety, you're
Speaker 1: in a great situation. When Jeffie is your best safety,
Speaker 1: now you're a little bit more wire. I'll take that
Speaker 1: a step further and say, if he's the worst player
Speaker 1: in your secondary, your secondary's probably pretty good. And if
Speaker 1: he's the best, it's probably pretty bad. You got two
Speaker 1: really great building blocks in your outside corners, and you
Speaker 1: could have a really good safety because you're right. I
Speaker 1: went back and looked. Tyron Matthew through four games with
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans, has twenty three tackles, an interception, a
Speaker 1: forced fumble, a fumble recovery, and three pass breakups. Trey
Speaker 1: Boston with the Cardinals has thirty tackles, one pick, one fumble, recovery,
Speaker 1: three pass breakups. Kenny Vacaro with the Titans, who he
Speaker 1: just got hurt, but in three game three and a
Speaker 1: half games, seventeen tackles, a pick, a sack, and a
Speaker 1: pass breakup in two starts each. Cavon Frazier has thirteen tackles,
Speaker 1: a pass breakup, and a sack. Okay, Xavier Woods has
Speaker 1: five tackles and no other stats. I was just sitting
Speaker 1: all that. Jeff has seventeen tackles and a pass breakup
Speaker 1: and a missed opportunity at an interception in week one.
Speaker 1: I believe the other thing, tyn Okay, Well, so the
Speaker 1: other thing I want to say, forget Earl Thomas. He's
Speaker 1: the best of the bunch. We all know that he's
Speaker 1: done now. Not only is he done, but he would
Speaker 1: have cost a pretty Penny in both a trade and
Speaker 1: a contract extension. I'm even gonna say forget Eric Reid
Speaker 1: because there are I believe other circumstances that go into
Speaker 1: why he just now signed with a team. Just forget
Speaker 1: those guys. That still leaves you with three veteran safeties
Speaker 1: who are putting up stats for their team, who have
Speaker 1: combined for five takeaways for their defense and just seemed
Speaker 1: to be contributing really well. Tyron Matthew is on a
Speaker 1: one year, seven million dollar deal. Trey Boston and Kenney
Speaker 1: Vacaro are both making one point five million. This team
Speaker 1: has about eighteen million in cap space. You could theoretically
Speaker 1: afford to have all three of them on this team.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys didn't want them, and I don't understand. And yeah,
Speaker 1: if you want to talk scheme fit, we can. I
Speaker 1: don't buy it. I like to have good players on
Speaker 1: my team, and I think the Cowboys just missed the
Speaker 1: boat when given an opportunity to put good players on
Speaker 1: this team. My only question to that would be, and
Speaker 1: those stats look good. They what's not on there for
Speaker 1: Heath is that he gave up a touchdown, you know,
Speaker 1: And it's not on there for Frasiers that he was
Speaker 1: late getting over there in Seattle. I don't know that.
Speaker 1: Do you know that about the other right guys doesn't
Speaker 1: show up on the statue? You're right, but I don't
Speaker 1: know that you might take that for something. Lease For
Speaker 1: Honey Badger's stats, I mean they look pretty good. I
Speaker 1: mean he's active, so you might take a touchdown or
Speaker 1: two or something like that. I'm sure they're doing some
Speaker 1: some of that. My goal at the end of I
Speaker 1: want to chart the way these guys are playing and
Speaker 1: sit down with game pass. I haven't had time. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: So you're right. It's not fair to just go off
Speaker 1: of stat sheets, especially for a position like safety where
Speaker 1: so much is dependent on other things. But it looks
Speaker 1: pretty good now. I mean, they're gonna have to give
Speaker 1: up a bunch of touchdowns each to be late to
Speaker 1: make that argument. I think what you said is perfect.
Speaker 1: They're active. I don't know that the guys on this
Speaker 1: team are active enough. Um and yeah, I mean, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna give up a touchdown, at least come up
Speaker 1: and make I mean, Trey Boston's got thirty tackles. What
Speaker 1: team does he's on Arizona? So he's playing well for
Speaker 1: a bad team. I mean, they're the only winless team
Speaker 1: in the whole league, I believe. And Tyrone Matthews Houston, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna see him this weekend, so he's gonna have
Speaker 1: a he's gonna have a chance to make an impression.
Speaker 1: Is there anything that you can say from the opposite
Speaker 1: side of that that would make this kind of after
Speaker 1: the facts? Second guessing? I know you've been saying it
Speaker 1: this whole time, but speaking from the Cowboys perspective, were
Speaker 1: there reasons outside a scheme fit? Which that's just one
Speaker 1: of those situations where you and you disagree with all
Speaker 1: the organization looks at it. You know, I'm not a
Speaker 1: football coach. You know, Chris Richard has forgotten more about
Speaker 1: football than I'll ever know. He played it at a
Speaker 1: high level in college and pro. I get that. And
Speaker 1: if they say he's not a scheme fit, that's fine.
Speaker 1: I say this goes back to my argument with Taco Charlton.
Speaker 1: He's not a right end, So the hell what you
Speaker 1: need a left end too. You need football players, you
Speaker 1: need guys who can do the job. You need a safety.
Speaker 1: If Jeff Heath has to play free because these guys
Speaker 1: aren't suited for it, so be it. Maybe I'd still
Speaker 1: rather have two proven, competent safeties and one of them
Speaker 1: is not a scheme fit and then throw Cavon Frasier
Speaker 1: and Xavier Woods to the Wolves. Like literally, That's what
Speaker 1: I've said all along is even when this team feels
Speaker 1: good about a player, they're usually pretty good about bringing
Speaker 1: in competition for him. They do it everywhere else, and
Speaker 1: these young guys just they were like, Nope, you're it.
Speaker 1: We feel great about you, better go do it. And
Speaker 1: it doesn't look great through the first month of the season.
Speaker 1: It's pretty arrogant when you think of it like that,
Speaker 1: when you think, well, we don't want to sign Tyrone
Speaker 1: Matthew because it doesn't fit our scheme. But yet we're
Speaker 1: gonna play Xavier Woods who's unproven, and Cavon Frasier into
Speaker 1: this scheme. Why not why not change the scheme a
Speaker 1: little bit then, you know what I mean? That's exactly,
Speaker 1: Or give it a shot to see if he could fit.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a pretty good athlete, so maybe he
Speaker 1: could fit if you bring him in and try him out.
Speaker 1: Like I just thought that that the Cowboys didn't leave
Speaker 1: themselves legal room. I'm okay with the idea of them
Speaker 1: going into the season saying, hey, we really want to
Speaker 1: give this young guy a shot. But to me, that's
Speaker 1: no reason why you wouldn't at least take a vet
Speaker 1: with you to training camp and maybe have that vet
Speaker 1: on the team so that in this kind of situation
Speaker 1: where you are right now, you've got options. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: have had to play Cavon Frasier in that last game
Speaker 1: where you where he got where he got beat there
Speaker 1: in Seattle, Like that kind of situation to me, was
Speaker 1: where you could have had a veteran here that gave you,
Speaker 1: gives you more options. What is the worst that could happen? Again? Well,
Speaker 1: I'll even you know, if you I'll even throw the
Speaker 1: honey Badger out Because seven million dollars is not an
Speaker 1: insignificant amount of money. Trey Boston and Kenny Vacaro are
Speaker 1: basically making minimum for guys of their stature, one one
Speaker 1: and a half million. Like they pay guys more not
Speaker 1: to play than you pay for that. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: seen this team cut Jasper Brinkley, Nolan Carroll, Demontre Moore,
Speaker 1: Stephen Paya, bring him in and hopefully. I mean, you
Speaker 1: want your young guys to outplay them. But that's the
Speaker 1: way this works. It's the way they do it at
Speaker 1: every other position is they bring in competition. And you know,
Speaker 1: if we got to pay a guy one point five
Speaker 1: million to get cut, that's just the cost of doing business.
Speaker 1: But now you don't have those options. And through four games,
Speaker 1: I don't you know, they're not awful, but they have
Speaker 1: not looked like what you hope they would be. I think,
Speaker 1: deep down, I think the keV was always thought they
Speaker 1: were going to get earl time. There you go, and
Speaker 1: that's the jack what I was just about to say,
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree with you because that's
Speaker 1: the only reason, like you just said, at every other position,
Speaker 1: that's what they do. They go out, they get competition,
Speaker 1: they try to create competition. At this one, it seemed
Speaker 1: like they were like, oh, we'll stick with the guns.
Speaker 1: Were got, we're good. I think that they were at
Speaker 1: a second round level and Seattle was like, that's where
Speaker 1: you need to be, and they weren't there yet. And
Speaker 1: then they deep down think they always knew after training
Speaker 1: camp if it didn't work out with Woods or whatever,
Speaker 1: that they could get there and I think they did.
Speaker 1: They tried back to the second round, and at that point,
Speaker 1: Seattle what had happened with Thomas and all that. It
Speaker 1: was like, NA, no, that's not what we need right now.
Speaker 1: And then the game happened and the game changed everything.
Speaker 1: And that flies in the face of everything they tell
Speaker 1: us in the offseason, because I remember specifically having a
Speaker 1: conversation with Stephen Jones about Randy Gregory where it's like,
Speaker 1: we always prepare for the worst case scenario in everything
Speaker 1: we do. We want Randy back. We think he can
Speaker 1: contribute if he comes back, but we can't count on that.
Speaker 1: It's why they got Vanderish. So you're going to count
Speaker 1: on doing a deal for one of the best safeties
Speaker 1: in the game, like that's that's the plan instead of again,
Speaker 1: chump change by NFL standards to get a proven starter
Speaker 1: in here in you know guys who have been to
Speaker 1: or contended for Pro Bowl slots. I mean, give Tyre
Speaker 1: Matthew a one year, seven million dollar deal, big whoop
Speaker 1: if he you know, at worst, you got the best
Speaker 1: safety depth chart in the league. Even if you get
Speaker 1: Earle and if he was horrible when he got to trip,
Speaker 1: by the time you finished training camp. You could cut him,
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean, I'm assuming they didn't have
Speaker 1: to guarantee that whole seven million. I wouldn't think it
Speaker 1: has never made It didn't make sense in the spring,
Speaker 1: it I mean, And I don't even you know, I
Speaker 1: don't mind him not drafting a safety, to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, the way the board fell, and obviously I'm
Speaker 1: very involved in that with the draft show, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't hate that at all, But I mean, three
Speaker 1: of these guys were available into the summer and they're
Speaker 1: just like, nah, we're good and it's coming back. It's no,
Speaker 1: it's coming back on him right now, and they don't
Speaker 1: have anybody to blame but themselves. And there's no real
Speaker 1: recourse you're gonna get at this point. There are not
Speaker 1: guys sitting out on the street that are the quality
Speaker 1: of those guys that you could have had in the
Speaker 1: off season. I will say this about Heath. I think
Speaker 1: that his games last year and the play against Oakland
Speaker 1: has helped him to the point where he could have
Speaker 1: a game like that. And I don't know, I didn't
Speaker 1: see like a whole bunch of like, well, he's horrible,
Speaker 1: he sucks I mean it might have yeah, oh oh
Speaker 1: really yeah. I was going back and forth during the game.
Speaker 1: I just know I agree. I just think they're dumb
Speaker 1: again for the fifth time. I like Jeff Heath a
Speaker 1: lot as a player, like I think he can be
Speaker 1: a starting caliber safety in this league. He needs to
Speaker 1: have talent around him. He needs to be Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is a bad way to phrase it, but he needs
Speaker 1: to be the worst player in the secondary now that
Speaker 1: he's bad, But the other four guys need to be
Speaker 1: better than him, and they're not right now, and it
Speaker 1: it shows. All Right, we're gonna take our first break
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Speaker 1: the Brink Welcome Back. Second segment of the show, Live
Speaker 1: from the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star. Nick take
Speaker 1: it away. You know what, this is a new one,
Speaker 1: But if you can watch season thirteen Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders
Speaker 1: making the team on CMT every Thursday night at nine
Speaker 1: pm Central. Season thirteen of that, Yeah, that still has
Speaker 1: some really good ratings. Actually, I was kind of shocked.
Speaker 1: But you don't a lot of people see that. I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't get the season thirteen if anything, without it
Speaker 1: a point. I want to say it's the highest rated
Speaker 1: show on CMT. I say, yeah, no, I'm saying maybe ever,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I'm saying seasons and that I
Speaker 1: didn't even know CMT was theround for thirteen years. This
Speaker 1: is where I would make snarky comments about don't country music,
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to That's just like MTV. They
Speaker 1: I mean, they stopped doing videos a long time ago,
Speaker 1: so I don't know if they do videos on CMT
Speaker 1: or not, but I know that they do. Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: cheerleaders making the team and they've done it for thirteen
Speaker 1: straight years. Yeah they have. All right, let's get back
Speaker 1: into it. I have some questions for you guys. We're
Speaker 1: at the quarter mark of the season. Cowboys have played
Speaker 1: four games of the sixteen on the schedule, and so
Speaker 1: I have some questions for some different players and different
Speaker 1: parts of the team, and I want you guys to
Speaker 1: answer them truthfully and with all honesty. So let's go. Okay,
Speaker 1: Question number one who's the most improved player for this
Speaker 1: team through four games. Jalen Smith or Byron Jones. Those
Speaker 1: are the only options you want to throw in another
Speaker 1: one that's better than those twosing a smart ass, it's
Speaker 1: Byron Jones. It is why because he's the twenty seventh
Speaker 1: overall picking the draft. There was speculation about whether his
Speaker 1: option was even worth picking up. They moved him to
Speaker 1: a new position that he was not good at as
Speaker 1: a rookie, and he's been gang bust. If we're talking
Speaker 1: about speculation, there was speculation Jalen Smith may never walk
Speaker 1: or run or anything. So if we're playing this speculation thing,
Speaker 1: then that far but improvement from last year to this year,
Speaker 1: because that's the thing. Last year we saw Jalen play
Speaker 1: and he was good in spurts, but when he had
Speaker 1: to play too much, he was not very good. And
Speaker 1: this year he has been very good. And I think
Speaker 1: he's been very good consistently throughout good these games. The
Speaker 1: stats say that Byron is one of the best outside
Speaker 1: corners in the game through four weeks, and that it's
Speaker 1: it is a premium position. It's a position the Cowboys
Speaker 1: haven't gotten great play at in recent years. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean close, I don't. I don't think you can argue
Speaker 1: that either way. I like what Jalen has done though
Speaker 1: he's he's much better than he was last year. And
Speaker 1: the fact that they could win a game without Sean
Speaker 1: Lee and Vanderessh is a big part of that too.
Speaker 1: But I think he's more active in the pass rush
Speaker 1: than we've seen from a linebacker. Absolutely, yeah, and he
Speaker 1: looks good doing it. Who would who would be a
Speaker 1: if you had to just you know, do a third guy,
Speaker 1: who would it be most improved? I mean, because the
Speaker 1: first guy that comes to mind to me would be
Speaker 1: Taco M that's good, yeah, or Cheeto is Cheeto was good.
Speaker 1: He just Tito missed some time last year. About Tyrone,
Speaker 1: He's been pretty good, has been good. I don't know
Speaker 1: if i'd put him in the category with those other guys. No, No,
Speaker 1: well we're thinking of we're trying to think. But I
Speaker 1: think he's been good. Um, nobody on the offense the
Speaker 1: only guy could remotely think of a Swain. But he's
Speaker 1: just playing more and he was just doing what Swain does, right,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, And that's the thing about Swain, Like
Speaker 1: I never thought Swain was a bad player. He's a
Speaker 1: good player, but he is just kind of that. I
Speaker 1: shouldn't even say good. He's a solid player, not from
Speaker 1: not from the ability standpoint, really just position number face.
Speaker 1: Does anybody Elseie Swain when they see Kelsey for the Chiefs, Oh, Travis,
Speaker 1: you think he looks like him? I don't know what,
Speaker 1: not really maybe with their helmets on, I don't see.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's that's what it is. I think it's not.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about production on them. I was about
Speaker 1: to say like that, No, no, they would would kill
Speaker 1: for that. We haven't talked about that, like I thought,
Speaker 1: sure somebody would be talking about left handed throws and
Speaker 1: stuff to night. I'm just so good, I mean, fun
Speaker 1: to watch making Cowboys. It's as much it's as much
Speaker 1: fun as I've had watching Monday night football in a while.
Speaker 1: But I just figure people want to hear us talk
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys. So he's a ton of fun to watch.
Speaker 1: I was actually watching that game last night, just like
Speaker 1: he's unreal, Like wow, he you know he's I mean,
Speaker 1: he's already like one of my top fifteen or twenty
Speaker 1: favorite players to watch, like he has We're talking about
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes for people that might people who listen to
Speaker 1: this show know how I feel about Aaron Rodgers. Well, like,
Speaker 1: if he's playing, I'm gonna try to watch it, right
Speaker 1: Like he's he's awesome, he's fun to watch. All right,
Speaker 1: let's getting better and Witten is getting better. He was
Speaker 1: way better last night than in the first three. He's
Speaker 1: still got some morning to do better. For sure. They're
Speaker 1: trying to figure out you know what, I'll say this,
Speaker 1: when anytime we would ever have a caller, or not
Speaker 1: a caller, but somebody would call in on the show
Speaker 1: and they're supposed to be a part of the show
Speaker 1: from the phone, it's kind of hard because sometimes you're
Speaker 1: you know, you you're over. You don't get to see
Speaker 1: each other, so you're talking over. That's a dynamic that
Speaker 1: they're having to deal with because they got three people
Speaker 1: in there. One guy's not in the booth and so
Speaker 1: you know, he talks a lot like he talks to
Speaker 1: the guy as though he's in the booth, right, So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so they have to kind of figure that out a
Speaker 1: little bit. He had a wit had a romo moment
Speaker 1: last night on the fourth down. I think it was
Speaker 1: the game winning drive or it was one of the
Speaker 1: two fourth quarter drives they scored on and they had
Speaker 1: a fourth and one and Winton was like, they're gonna
Speaker 1: get him on the move and try to do a
Speaker 1: boot and he's going to have a pass option and
Speaker 1: it was the exact I mean, it was the exact play.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's getting steadies. He knows he's doing all right.
Speaker 1: Next question, most disappointing player, and I'm talking about expectations
Speaker 1: going into the year based and then relative to how
Speaker 1: they've played in the first four games. Tyren Smith, Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins. Feel free to throw in another name if
Speaker 1: he'd like. M this is hard. I mean, no, Sahn
Speaker 1: Lee could be up there, because Sean Lee really wasn't
Speaker 1: playing that well except for the one game and then
Speaker 1: he got hurt, so he has not provided much for you. Okay,
Speaker 1: you could throw that in him. He will't be. He
Speaker 1: won't be. My answer though, this is it's this is
Speaker 1: this summarizes football completely because given his pedigree, his talent level,
Speaker 1: his accomplishments, and the way we think about him, it
Speaker 1: is probably Tyrn Smith because you think of him as
Speaker 1: just this wall you're not getting past him. He's the
Speaker 1: best he's suiting blah blah blah. He hasn't played like
Speaker 1: that at all. He's been very disappointing just because of
Speaker 1: the standard. But when your quarterback's not playing well, it's
Speaker 1: it's everything. And I mean, you got you got to
Speaker 1: have good quarterback play. But if you're left tackle isn't
Speaker 1: playing well, does that affect your quarterbacks play? No, because
Speaker 1: I don't think Tyrant has been that bad. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not land of bad. Yeah, I'm and I was
Speaker 1: just wanting to make that clear because I think that
Speaker 1: could be the natural. Honestly, Yeah, Tyron playing the way
Speaker 1: he's played the first month is still better than a
Speaker 1: ton of starters in the NFL. But wouldn't you say that,
Speaker 1: Tyrn if you had to rate them all, would you
Speaker 1: say and not? This isn't about expectations. This is about
Speaker 1: who's playing the best. Wouldn't you say Tyrant's number two
Speaker 1: on the old line right now? As far as play, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you wouldn't say yeah, But I think would
Speaker 1: you say yes? But here's the problem. No problem. That's
Speaker 1: also part of the problem with the offensive line is
Speaker 1: if right now, if he's your second best, then that
Speaker 1: means the offensive line isn't playing atom you know me,
Speaker 1: I like to grade on a current, but given who
Speaker 1: he is and where he's playing like, I'm pluning it too,
Speaker 1: just because not only is he stepping in for an
Speaker 1: all pro and not sinking the ship, but he's if
Speaker 1: playing pretty well, Dak doesn't pick up the fumble, We're
Speaker 1: not sitting here and talking about talking about Looney getting
Speaker 1: beat on that play. So it just kind of worked
Speaker 1: out like that because I thought Looney had a great game,
Speaker 1: and I think he did that playa could have been
Speaker 1: his last one of the game. It's true, they're all
Speaker 1: they're all that way. Tyrant's got something. I think the
Speaker 1: ANSWER's Dak. I think he's it has to be it's
Speaker 1: it might not be fair, but you know, it goes
Speaker 1: with the Denidists what it is. It's Jason nice to say,
Speaker 1: might not be your fault, but you're the problem back.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get too much credit when you're good and
Speaker 1: too much blame when you're bad. It's just the way
Speaker 1: it is. All right, who's been the best player, and
Speaker 1: I know that's he sounds easy, but you gotta choose
Speaker 1: between Zeke and Tank. It's been a better player. Thank thank,
Speaker 1: It's harder to make an impact on the game from
Speaker 1: that position, Like you have to be really good to
Speaker 1: put up those kinds of stuff. They're both leading the
Speaker 1: league in their respective categories right now, Zeke no. Zeke
Speaker 1: is leading with in rushing with four and twenty six yards.
Speaker 1: Tank is leading in sacks with five and a half. Also,
Speaker 1: let's not I mean, let you know, let's give all
Speaker 1: credit and blame where it's due. Zeke put up a
Speaker 1: stinker in Seattle. I don't care what his yardist total was.
Speaker 1: He had two drops at a bad game, bad game,
Speaker 1: and that tells you a lot. Yeah, one twenty seven
Speaker 1: yards and it was a bad game. I think it's
Speaker 1: you know, Levion Bell's not playing. It's between Zeke and
Speaker 1: um Gurley for best back in the league. And Zeke's
Speaker 1: on pace to break his sixteen rushing total by a
Speaker 1: healthy margin. Like he's great, he's really good, But what
Speaker 1: do you get that years he's really a great stock
Speaker 1: sixteen fifty one. No, but that's about all four games,
Speaker 1: Like the first two games weren't great. It says a lot,
Speaker 1: but like it says a lot about how spoiled we
Speaker 1: are since twenty thirteen when it comes to running the football,
Speaker 1: because like, eighty yards is a great day for eighty
Speaker 1: percent of NFL running backs and it's nothing here. It's
Speaker 1: so his pace is I think seventeen oh four. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that man for sixteen fifty one and sixteen. I think
Speaker 1: that's also because most teams are probably throwing the ball
Speaker 1: for three hundred plus. Yeah, Cowboys are usually in that
Speaker 1: one fifty to two hundred, right right. I just Tank
Speaker 1: hasn't had a bad game yet that I'm aware of me.
Speaker 1: He's five and a half sacks, forced fumble, I believe.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's in the all over the play.
Speaker 1: He's great. Yeah, he's been. He's been the best one.
Speaker 1: You know, we do a top ten players of every
Speaker 1: game for the for each game this year, and you know,
Speaker 1: he's been in there every every week. Of course, I
Speaker 1: think he's the only player that's been in there every
Speaker 1: single game. So maybe Zach Martin too. All right, let's
Speaker 1: take our final break. When we come back, we're going
Speaker 1: to get our final question. Then we'll hopefully get some
Speaker 1: questions from you guys. Call us eight eight eight eight
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Speaker 1: our quarter review. Um, and then we're gonna get some calls.
Speaker 1: We got a call already waiting. We'll get to that
Speaker 1: in just a second. But our final question, there was
Speaker 1: the best newcomer? You got Tavon Austin, Alan Hearns, and
Speaker 1: Layton vander Esh You again, feel free to throw in
Speaker 1: another name if you choose has been the best newcomer.
Speaker 1: You know her has been pretty good. Okay, that's another one.
Speaker 1: I mean he's uh yeah, credit words due. He hasn't
Speaker 1: lost your game. You know that's a low bar. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't think he didn't lose the game with this
Speaker 1: his miss kick, and they didn't lose the game for him, right,
Speaker 1: Let's be real too. He's like he's he's probably gonna
Speaker 1: be pretty important for a team that's not scoring a
Speaker 1: ton of touchdowns right now. Connor Williams is starting, but
Speaker 1: he's not really doing a lot. Oh god, that's a
Speaker 1: I Each one of these seemed like they've had moments.
Speaker 1: I want it. I wanted to say over all of them, okay,
Speaker 1: because he actually won a game for them. Even though
Speaker 1: Tavon may have won that Giants, he's just been so
Speaker 1: inconsistent because of how they use him. I want it.
Speaker 1: I want it to be Tavon. I want him to
Speaker 1: play more than eighteen snaps a game. But it's not
Speaker 1: a big enough sample size, so I'll probably say Layton, Um,
Speaker 1: I'm really what. He's got twenty six twenty six tackles
Speaker 1: in four games, and so what that's like six seven
Speaker 1: a game, and only one of those was a start.
Speaker 1: So he's doing a lot of that as a reserve.
Speaker 1: He just looks like his instincts are impressive. He seems
Speaker 1: like he's good at diagnosing plays, and he hasn't missed
Speaker 1: a ton of tackles. He's made the ones he's had
Speaker 1: the shots at, so he hasn't been phenomenal, but I'm encouraged.
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, think back to what Taco did through
Speaker 1: the first month of last season. He is playing a
Speaker 1: big time role in this defense. So so if he's
Speaker 1: only going to get better, which assume this is your floor.
Speaker 1: If this is the floor, then I'm feeling pretty good
Speaker 1: about that pick. Right, So yeah, all right, let's get
Speaker 1: to the phone lines. We got some calls. Let's get
Speaker 1: a call from Lance in New Jersey. Lance, what up,
Speaker 1: how's it good. I just want to thank you in advance.
Speaker 1: Right now. I'm a mailman out here in Jersey, so
Speaker 1: it's nice to hear somebody's voice. I listen to you
Speaker 1: guys every day. Thank you, thank you. So I had
Speaker 1: two quick Well, I want to comment on who I
Speaker 1: thought was the most surprising and like disappointing. I love
Speaker 1: the way by Earn's playing right now. I think Chris
Speaker 1: Richards has done Richard has done a great job with him.
Speaker 1: The disappointing guy I think is, uh, it's been Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 1: I know he hasn't gotten a lot of reps this year,
Speaker 1: but he hasn't really taken advantage of those reps so far.
Speaker 1: And my question is, are you guys concerned with the
Speaker 1: lack of turnovers we've had so far this year through
Speaker 1: four games? Guys, how do you really got their hands
Speaker 1: on the balls in the secondary that I've seen? Um,
Speaker 1: And that's really it. I'll hang up and listen to
Speaker 1: you guys. Have to say, all right, thank you sir.
Speaker 1: You know absolutely terrified. I don't see anything wrong with
Speaker 1: that call. Jordan Lewis, you see anything wrong with a
Speaker 1: little bump and grind going on it? So on. That's
Speaker 1: the kind of the style of defense Chris Richard has
Speaker 1: been playing a little bit, and that's one of the
Speaker 1: reasons why Jordan Lewis doesn't play a lot. I mean,
Speaker 1: they really get into it. I mean like he doesn't.
Speaker 1: And so you're exactly right about that he hasn't been
Speaker 1: playing much. I thought he would be playing a lot more.
Speaker 1: I thought he'd be a starter. I thought he would
Speaker 1: take over whom I did not think that Byron Jones
Speaker 1: would just immediately come in and do and do well.
Speaker 1: I'm wrong on that one. So I thought Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: and Cheeto were going to be the two starters on
Speaker 1: this team for a while. Hasn't happened at all. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think you're right about being disappointed. We're
Speaker 1: disappointed by that than I think, than than Dak. You know,
Speaker 1: the part I'm most disappointed with with regard to him
Speaker 1: is that I thought he would be in the top
Speaker 1: three and whatever, in whatever machination. I thought he would
Speaker 1: be a guy even if they decided he wasn't going
Speaker 1: to be in the slot. I figured some one of
Speaker 1: those other two would be in the slot and he
Speaker 1: would be on the field when there were three cornerbacks
Speaker 1: on the field and the fact that he's not, that's
Speaker 1: the part that's very disciplined. And Anthony Brown is not
Speaker 1: playing right. Well, he's been he's doing okay. He hasn't
Speaker 1: been like great, but he's at some bad moments this year,
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. And so it's not like, well,
Speaker 1: you just can't get on the field because he's three
Speaker 1: or playing. No, I mean there's room for you to
Speaker 1: be there from seven starts to what he is. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's disappointing, it's surprising, it's kind of confusing even.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know he doesn't fit though, right, I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he played well last year, right, and and
Speaker 1: at this point we know how that position works too, Like,
Speaker 1: I have to believe his his psyche is a little
Speaker 1: screwed right now. I saw him in the locker room
Speaker 1: after the game and he had about a million yards
Speaker 1: stare like. I mean, he didn't he didn't look like
Speaker 1: they just won a game. And I don't blame him.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's played one snap two snaps now
Speaker 1: this year, and one of them was a forty five
Speaker 1: yard touchdown a golden Tate. So I feel bad for
Speaker 1: the guy, to be honestas Yeah, in that game, No,
Speaker 1: he's played two snaps all season. He played one snap
Speaker 1: when Byron came out with a wrist in week two,
Speaker 1: and they put him out there in dime last week
Speaker 1: and Tate took it to the house and they're like,
Speaker 1: no more dime sorry. So I it wow? That which
Speaker 1: that that that is something that can really affect your
Speaker 1: your mental Yeah, which, And I mean you know I'm
Speaker 1: not I don't want to just make excuses for the
Speaker 1: guy and act like he's got no part in this,
Speaker 1: but it can't be good for your mindset. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I'm mystified as to how you go
Speaker 1: from starting seven games and playing pretty well too. You
Speaker 1: can't work your way on in the field, even as
Speaker 1: a dimeback as soon as you as soon as you
Speaker 1: make him inactive because you don't need him. That's when
Speaker 1: somebody gets to that point. No, he's absolutely right. Um,
Speaker 1: only team in the league with no picks, only team
Speaker 1: in the league with no picks. They've got two takeaways
Speaker 1: all year. And that goes back to my rant about
Speaker 1: these safeties is like you talk about linebackers, you want
Speaker 1: to be active. These guys don't seem active, like I
Speaker 1: feel like getting getting takeaways is just about being in
Speaker 1: the right place. Like you're not going to diagnose the
Speaker 1: play and jump in front of the pass every time,
Speaker 1: but you gotta be Yeah, unless you're a beast, but
Speaker 1: you gotta know enough about what's going on to be
Speaker 1: in the proximity of the ball so that when Jalen
Speaker 1: smacks the guy and it pops up, you're right there.
Speaker 1: That's or when the quarterback just overthrows, you're in the
Speaker 1: right position to be able to be there and get
Speaker 1: your hands up and make the catch. Right. It's those
Speaker 1: kind of moments, which is about being the right position.
Speaker 1: I don't want to knit pick Byron and Cheeto too
Speaker 1: much because I think they've played well, but I'd like
Speaker 1: to see them start making plays on balls. Byron, it
Speaker 1: seems like he's great at making like the reactionary play,
Speaker 1: like it's his trademark. Is like that swipe where he
Speaker 1: just bats it down. But if you could turn that
Speaker 1: into a way to actually get the ball even better,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure it's not easy, but that's super
Speaker 1: troubling though. No picks and no month not good, all right,
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