1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Hi in. Hello football fan, your old pal Dave Damaschik here. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Make sure you check out the Dave Damashek Football Program. 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: You can watch it on YouTube, NFL dot com. You 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: can listen to it on iTunes or Stitcher or NFL 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: dot com slash Podcasts. We look at the world of 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: pro football and the game called life. The Around the 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: NFL Podcast are too lazy to write their own money changs. 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Jansas and I am joined by Room, 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: Phil Leave, the hero Us, Colleen Wolf, Chris Westling, and 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: Greg Rosatal. What's up boys and woman? Hey Dan, Hey, Hey, Hey, 12 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: Hi Colleen. Hi Dan. A great stint to the last 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: couple of weeks on h Q and the fil Networks 14 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: Morning show, Thank You, which kind of took you out 15 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: of the out of the podcast um rotation a little bit. 16 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: And also that's what you're telling yourself, Well, you think 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: you're self out of the sop all lineup. That's true, 18 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: that's true. I was sleeping during that time. It's not 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: an easy schedule, as we've talked about, but you did 20 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: very well. I think you're gonna be a star. In 21 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: this industry. Is that right? That's that's wonderful. All right, 22 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm glad you think that it's big to get dan 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: stamp of approval. I'm still waiting for it. That's not true. 24 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: How's everybody doing? Yesterday was Father's Day? Of course? Uh, 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 1: and now we are in the dark period. Amazing. We'll 26 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: talk about a little bit one of the great sports 27 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: events of recent times, Game seven of the NBA Finals. Uh, 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cavaliers coming out on top. That was fun. How's 29 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: everybody else doing? It? Couldn't be better? Mark on vacation, 30 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: by the way, for everyone all week, I thought that 31 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: was a joke. He is in he's in New York. 32 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, all right, that's definitely not cool. It's hot. 33 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: I saw a lot of people too that they were 34 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: happy for him and all other Clevelanders. Yeah, common misconception, 35 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: no connection to as he points out on this podcast 36 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: all the time. But it just still he might have 37 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: spent like six days of his life in Cleveland. Yeah. Um, 38 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: so Mark is away, Colleen filling the chair. We have 39 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: a lot to get you, not a lot of stuff 40 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: going on in the NFL, and yet we continue to 41 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: find things to talk about. There's so much of it. 42 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: I know. Today's show we will be talking about a 43 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: segment called now what uh, in in which we each 44 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: lay out a plausible scenario that could put a team 45 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 1: that is involved in said scenario in a very difficult 46 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: position when it comes to organizational decision making? Is that, Greg, 47 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: Is that a good way to put that? That? That 48 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: is correct? And we should give Christopher Bonner uh some 49 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: credit here because that was just a text or Tweetie 50 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: sent me over the weekend which this with this segmentent 51 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: you got hit with a bond bomb? He called it, 52 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: what do we do now? We shortened it a little bit, 53 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: the same idea. We took his idea, changed it a 54 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: little bit, tweaked and took all the credit, and we 55 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: will monetize it eventually down the line, and he'll have 56 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: no footing in the court of law. Bone dog, hand dog, 57 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: bone dog for you, Bony Uh. Yeah, So we'll talk 58 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: about that now what and uh we will get into 59 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: a little B N B A, n B A and 60 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: NFL talk because and just to pull back the curtain 61 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. And Colleen, this will be news to 62 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: you as well. Um. When we're putting together the show 63 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: initially this morning. Initially, West was a little underwhelmed. I 64 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: gave the show appreciate great of d Yeah, and you 65 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: know that rubbed Greg the wrong way. And I don't know, 66 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: you know, one day Greg might not be our boss 67 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: and we'll look back on these times and this will 68 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: be like one of those times, like, oh wow, Greg, 69 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: good boss work. Because what did Greg do? He shouted 70 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: down a pond. West, He said, well, if you don't 71 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: like the show, make it better, come up with a 72 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: seg challenge. I like that, threw down the gauntlets. It's 73 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: the lebron level leadership out of Greg. Well, yeah, well 74 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: it's a very masculin to pull the curtain back. There's 75 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: been a power play with here's another curtain bead pulled 76 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: back behind and uh and there's been a power play 77 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: going on within the company where another boss has, you know, 78 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: decided to take over and be West's boss. So I'm 79 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: trying to game Wes is kind of sneaky subservient. Really Yeah, well, 80 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: because now you've got all these different levels of bosses, 81 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: there's a lot and they're answering to all of them. 82 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: I never consider myself sneaky subservient. I don't think that. 83 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: I don't think that's I think I'm a team player, though, Yeah, 84 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: for sure, whether it's on the diamond for the shield, 85 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: whether it's in the office, Chris, that's the guy you 86 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: want on the hill the sword. I'm coming back. I know, 87 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: I know everybody was worried. I'll believe it. Want to 88 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: see it. I have not seen Colleen in two months, 89 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: Q I was away. You remain the only teammate I've 90 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: ever played with who has attempted to have Postmates deliver 91 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: a case of beer to left center FEO. We were losing. 92 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: It was glue it heared you to me forever. But 93 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: before we do any of that, let's check behind the 94 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: glass and I will give Even though Wes is not 95 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: thinking highly of this show, pretty great show pre show 96 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: grade well he minus whoa, whoa? No way feel confident 97 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: about it. Nope, okay, I respond behind the glass, what's up, buddy? 98 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: Did you just give that high grade? Because Mark isn't here, 99 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: his little minions can report it back to him. Here, 100 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: hold on, let me write this down real quick. Then, wow, 101 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: just out of yourself? Or did I No? He did? 102 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: H you know what I wish I was hired? He 103 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: didn't even think of me too. Higher. Okay, all right, 104 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: brand let's get out of the weeds here. A couple 105 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: of things. Number one, a lot of Irish is now 106 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: on Twitter. What is your handle? At the A T 107 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: n Irishman At the A T n Irishman. We did, 108 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: we kind of gave you know, Brandon's a young millennial, 109 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: wasn't on Twitter before. After the softball game, we sat 110 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: him down over some beers and we said, Brandon, you 111 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: were the producer of the best NFL podcast on the internet. 112 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: Get on Twitter. You got you gotta get out in 113 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: front of this if you want to build the Irishman brand. 114 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: And he took us up on it. Good job. You 115 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: do only talk about three months. But so the Irish 116 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: is on The Irish is on Twitter, so make sure 117 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: you follow him. It's been like six seven years since 118 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: Twitter has been popular. But a challenge to all our 119 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: listeners to follow the Irishman. What is it again at 120 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: the A T n Irishman at the Irishman. I think 121 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: his first set of tweets will all be we'll all 122 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: be based around the complete discography of Sugar Ray. I 123 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: had to defend myself against some people. Yeah, we're telling 124 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: been on Twitter, by the way, right after you like 125 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: went to the post for Sugar Ray and an ironic way. 126 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: Let's let's just say I'm glad I missed that part 127 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: of this show. He's been getting it from all corners. 128 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: Let's do the news. Football it's like rock and roll, 129 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: It's and basketball is like jazz. Nice drop pick up 130 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: the Chisels. Uh, Let's start with the Los Angeles Rams, 131 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: our local football team. Uh. Here in Los Angeles now. 132 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: Steve White, who is a reporter for NFL Media, was 133 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,119 Speaker 1: on Total Access on Thursday and he said that goth 134 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: the number one overall pick in the draft, is a 135 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: long way to go before he's ready to be an 136 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: NFL quarterback, which had this to say, Jared Goff is 137 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: nowhere near being ready to start Week one. He's only 138 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: had offseason workout practices, but he's swimming in it. Greg, 139 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: What does that mean? Does that do you put any 140 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: stock into at it? Or is that a little bit 141 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: of a red flag for you? I don't overrate it 142 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: and panic that he's not ready to play after nonpadded practices, 143 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: but I think this situation is so much different than 144 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: a normal first round pick situation where you know he's 145 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: supposed to be out there day one starting, you're in 146 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: a new city, and so he has to be ready 147 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: sooner than Carson Wentz should be ready. And from what 148 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: Steve said, I think Jared Goff is struggling to adapt 149 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: to the the NFL and struggling to convince those around 150 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: him that he's gonna be ready anytime too. And that's normal. 151 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: But he's still got a game to play in six 152 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: or seven weeks, and you don't want Case Keenum playing 153 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: that game. Yeah, it worries me it he's not ready 154 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: and defenses are going to be stacking the box because 155 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: they know that Todd Gurley is basically they're gonna be 156 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 1: running the offense through him. So I'm worried about how 157 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: many interceptions Jared Goff is going to end up throwing 158 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: the season, and if that's going to mess with him 159 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: mentally too, well, the worst case scenario would would be 160 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: he throws zero interceptions because he can't beat out Case 161 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: Case keenom to play. And you don't want to panic, 162 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: but you don't trade what they gave up to have. 163 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: Jeff Fishers say this sentence going into training camp, Cases 164 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: our starter right now, so case needs the first team reps. 165 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: He traded all his picks so you can give Golf 166 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: the first team reps and get him ready to play right. So, 167 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: on one hand, I think don't overreact. You know, Aaron 168 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: Rodgers had a miserable first training camp, uh, you know, 169 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: in his NFL career, and there's many stories like that. 170 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: On the other hand, I don't think you should ignore 171 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: it either. When when Jeff Fisher says he doesn't want 172 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: to mess up the reps, to me, that is saying 173 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: we don't think case that that Jared Goff is playing 174 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: well right now and is ready at all. Like that 175 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: quote alone confirms Steve Weisch's report. Not that not that 176 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: I needed it. You know, we talked to Steve too 177 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: off the air, and I think I think it's just 178 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: something that it's clearly coming slowly to Golf and that 179 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: everyone around the team and on the team it's kind 180 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: of noticing so far. I was gonna cue you up 181 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: for that, didn't you think talking to Steve behind the scene, 182 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: and that he could have even been stronger in this report? Sure, 183 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: I mean he this was from a NFL Total access 184 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: and he did say he's nowhere ready to start right 185 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: now and that he's swimming. And that's essentially that what 186 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: he what he was telling telling me as well. So 187 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: it's not things are not going according to the plan 188 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: they would have laid out well, Golf. I think one 189 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: of the pluses is he was more pro ready, and 190 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: that's always you know, tricky did I don't know what 191 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: that means deed, because you would think that means intellectually, 192 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: but it's different learning. Uh, what did you anyone that 193 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: you draft is pro ready? You would like that, I 194 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: mean regardless, it means that hard Knox is going to 195 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: be that much better if it starts getting soup. Yeah, 196 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: it's a great point. If it starts getting awkward where 197 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: he's he's drowning into practices and then the preseason he's 198 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: turning into what was that guy in San Francisco, Brino 199 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: Geo Kami or whatever Brady draft? Uh, that would be 200 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: that would be Greek tragic. Giovanni Carmazzi that the jet jet. Uh. 201 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: Let's move on to talk about another quarterback that does 202 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: have his stuff together. He is Kim Newton, who had 203 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: this to say. I told the Charlotte Observer about you 204 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: know where he has uh to grow after winning the 205 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: m v P and the NFC title last season. I 206 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: haven't peaked. I haven't climaxed as a player, um, and 207 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: that's what I need to get better at West. Big 208 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: Cam Newton fan, you are do you think Cam Newton 209 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: can get better? Or did we see the best Cam 210 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: Newton has to offer last season? I have no idea, 211 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: I really don't. I mean, I don't have a hot 212 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: take on whether Cam Newton's gonna get better or worse. 213 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: Like no quarterback in the history of the game has 214 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: ever stated an m v P level for like eight 215 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: straight years. So you would think by his age and 216 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: his obvious talent, he should be ascendant. But how many 217 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: things went right for the Panthers last year, just about 218 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: everything outside of Calvin Benjamin's injury. I think the inclusion 219 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: of this item was what really impacted Chris's pre show 220 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: D plus grade. Well, I just have no opinion, Like 221 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: it's it's hard for me to imagine anyone having an 222 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: opinion on this. Well, I think we haven't talked about 223 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: Cam Newton all off season. I do think it's interesting 224 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: to think that he took a big, big step forward 225 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: last year, and that's part of, you know, what made 226 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: the Panthers so great. So is he gonna be able 227 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: to maintain that sort of level of consistency, especially in 228 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: the second half of the year he was a house 229 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: on fire? Or is he going to be somewhere in 230 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: between two thousand fifteen and where he was the rest 231 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: of his rear, which is still a great Pro Bowl 232 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: type of quarterback. But they're going to have to improve elsewhere. Plus, 233 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: we have opinions all the time of players whether they'll 234 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: regress or take the next step. Superstar Club. We just 235 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: had a conversation where I'm coming from, though, like what 236 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: about Cam Newton would what news coming out of Charlotte 237 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: or what's happening to him this offseason that would make 238 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: you think he would be any different than last year. 239 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: Maybe it's just like a mental thing though too. I mean, 240 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: because even if it's not physically, because he had such 241 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: a great year and he approved on so many things, 242 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: maybe just the experience of going through all the highs 243 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: of last season and then the lowest low and then 244 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: everything that he got, all the slack he sort of 245 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: got after the Super Bowl for that, maybe that was 246 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: going to help him improve. Well, I'm just taking it 247 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: from the vantage point of the last two years when 248 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: we were entering the season, it's a debate. Is Cam 249 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: Newton a top ten quarterback? Now he's the unquestioned m 250 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: v P. And I'm just curious as a fan. I've been, 251 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: i think, on the biggest Cam Newton fans out there 252 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: since the day he entered the league. I think he's 253 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: gonna be great, but I think it's it's always tough 254 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: to follow up the year that you truly broke out, 255 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: and he broke out last year. If he does take 256 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: another step, he's he's now encroaching the territory of an 257 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: all time great type player. I mean last season, thirty 258 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: five touchdowns, ten interceptions, He ran the football well, he 259 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: always did that, ten touchdowns, took his team to the 260 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I mean, if he goes up another level, 261 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: we're talking about it potentially historic player if he's not 262 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: already that now. And somehow all of that clicked without 263 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: having Kelvin Benjamin and all of I mean all of 264 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: his guys that all offense. When we looked at it, 265 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: we were like, at least I was, I was like, 266 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: how is he going to do this? At the beginning 267 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: of the season, He's going to be thrown to Ted 268 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: Gin and then it ended up working somehow, and and 269 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: Devin funches and we'll see it's just O t a reports. 270 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: But the people are watching the Panthers practice think Devin 271 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: Funchis is a totally different player than he was a 272 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: year ago. So you get him, you get Benjamin. Those 273 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: guys will help Cam Newton look better. I think the 274 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: highest compliment you can give Cam Newton is this. And 275 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: he uttered last year about this time and everyone laughed 276 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: at it, but he backed it up. I don't think 277 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: people have seen what I am or what I'm trying 278 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: to do. And he went out and backed it up 279 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: and had one of the most unique seasons in NFL history. 280 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: Uh So we don't think that he's climaxed. I mean, 281 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: do you really have to use that word, Cam? It's 282 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: like a weird word. Did Cam Newton climax? Well? Question? 283 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: I think you could, you know, send your iron Colleen 284 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: towards Dan, who has now said it three times by 285 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: bringing it up over and over in this climax? Do 286 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: you think this podcast has climaxed? Let's move on, UM, 287 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: let's move on, move on to carry under what song? 288 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: For Christ's sake. One climax on our, on our slat 289 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: note on our I am client, all right, I didn't 290 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: hit after Oh you're all baboons now all right? Sad news? 291 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: Lower that mess. Waiting all day for Sunday Night is dad, guys, 292 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: the Sunday Night football theme song, which has been used 293 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: various iterations since the NBC took over the Sunday Night 294 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: Football package of two thousand and six. They're dumping the 295 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: song in its place, Guys, Colleen, I know you're a 296 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: big country music fan. A number one hit on the 297 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: Billboard charts. Uh in two thousand and fourteen, it will 298 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: be a variation of this song something bad. Why can't 299 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: we update this? How is that country music? It's not really, 300 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: It's very pop. Yeah, well that's there's nothing country about 301 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: this song. Wait listen, there's a little twang though. That's 302 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: Miranda Lambert. This is bent not beauty. Come on, I mean, 303 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: it's fine. Carry Underwood is great. She's very talented. But 304 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: if they're updating the song, why don't they update the 305 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: person doing it too? Maybe they do something, Maybe they 306 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: switch it off. What about like throwing Beyonce in there? 307 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: Do it? Why don't you get all like the living whoa, 308 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: I like that we're staying in there. That's possible. Be 309 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: big for Monday, says the biggest star in the world. 310 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: You would never do it. Football is the biggest star 311 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: in the world, big stars coming together. Football is huge. 312 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: She is she is now ascended past doing some TV 313 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: or you bring back someone that's already shown that she 314 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: succeeds in this in the space you, I mean, Priaca 315 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: does it? What a great song? Do you hate the 316 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: j T song? Would you like this? This is great? 317 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: This is the best? Like this is all just a 318 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: giant You're gonna like you guys dancing right now even 319 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: like I'm sorry that cannot I know it? So I'm stopping. Alright, Colleen, 320 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: you might not even remember do you remember this song? Alright? Okay, well, 321 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: but I don't remember a lot. It was the famous 322 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: intro for NFL Network not I mean the mious around 323 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: the world. People tune in just to watch the intro 324 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: for a couple of seasons on NFL Network Thursday Night 325 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: Football a few years back. So I was partially that 326 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: Greg you love that song? That was a Thursday Night 327 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: Football song and disappeared after a couple of years and 328 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: now we have something bad that will be the new thing. 329 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: They're going to read something bad. Really, that's great. They're 330 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: gonna rework the lyrics that will be the new theme song. 331 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: By the way, listening to that song and all honesty, 332 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: something bad. I could hear it as like a TV 333 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: show open. I could hear it. Yeah, but it doesn't 334 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: get you guys dancing, and oh maybe it does. This 335 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: is brutal, I can picture it now. My concern though, 336 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: is that they'll lose the integrity of some of the 337 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: greatest lyrics that have ever happened, like the NBC Sunday 338 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: Night Football song like Alan Chris are the best on TV. 339 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: You know whoever is writing those sort of lyrics, Well 340 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: when they the best was when they shoehorned Michelle into 341 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: it is like Allen Chris and Michelle. It's all awkward, 342 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: all right. So anyway, new song coming up starting with 343 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: Week one, Patriots Cardinals. Let's move on. Uh. The Cleveland 344 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: Cavaliers are the NBA champions. Uh. They claimed Game seven, 345 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: eight nine over the Warriors, wiping out a three one 346 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: deficit historic win. Uh. Really sad that Cleveland's native son 347 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: Mark se Is not here uh to share his feelings 348 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: on this game or and or the series. But Cleveland 349 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: ends a sports drout for their major pro teams that 350 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: stretched all the way back to nineteen sixty four. Uh, 351 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: ending that curse. People said it was a curse. It 352 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: wasn't a curse, it wasn't a jinx, but it was 353 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: a long, long dry spell. And uh, by the way, 354 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: I have a settler. I just want to share right 355 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: now speaking, this win by Cleveland, the karma around the 356 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: city will lead to now you got the title for 357 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: the NBA team, the Indians, no one's paying attention, but 358 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: they're in first place. They're gonna go on a deep 359 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: run because all this good buzz around the city all 360 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: the way to a LCS and the Browns, yes on paper, 361 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: perhaps the two and fourteen team. They're gonna squeak out 362 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: even wins and have some meaningful December football games. Bring 363 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: at Cleveland's back in the house. Baby. If Karma was 364 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: only capable of giving US seven and nine season, I 365 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: would not be very impressive. Arma just gave them a 366 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: people who I'm talking about? They painful playoff loss for 367 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: the baseball team and in an under five D football team, 368 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: they they're they're used to that. After that, changing the 369 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: karma that comes in and Joe table seven wins would 370 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: be miraculous for this Browns team. Correct, Yes, yeah, I 371 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: think they They have probably the least impressive roster in 372 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: the NFL. So I'm just saying there's gonna be a 373 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: lot of buzz and that will be one of the 374 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: biggest sports stories of the Browns. Are gonna be like 375 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: seven and eight and a surprisingly watered down a f 376 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: C North fighting for a playoff spot, and then you 377 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: know they're not gonna pull it off, but they'll be 378 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: They'll be in the mix. Yeah. Joe Hayden said he's 379 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: using it as motivate san. I love that. And since 380 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: we're on this top topic, will now throw it to West, who, um, 381 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: you know, he had some negative things to say about 382 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: today's show and then the Boss put him on the spot. 383 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: Why don't you set this up? West? What are we 384 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: talking about next? Well, I think in my mind, Lebron's 385 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: performance in the finals cemented his status as the number 386 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 1: two basketball player of all time behind Michael Jordan's. Wow, 387 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: this is coming from West, who has always been very 388 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: critical of Lebron. No, I'm critical of people who would 389 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: put Lebron in the same conversation with Jordan when he 390 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: had no business in that conversation. But I think now 391 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: he's number two. Jordan is so far alone at the top. 392 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: The NFL does not have a Jordan's. A lot of 393 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: people consider Jim Brown, but some other people consider Joe 394 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: Montana or Tom Brady or Lawrence Taylor the best. But 395 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: I think in the pantheon of the NBA, to me, 396 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: it goes Jordan's, Lebron, Bill Russell, Kareem and then kind 397 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: of a bird magic tie at five mm hmm. In 398 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: the NFL. No love for Will. Why Will's right in 399 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: that next con Where's where's your boy? Tim Duncan, He's 400 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: right there with Will, Oscar Robertson right after that. And 401 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm not putting Kobe in the top eight. Sorry, okay, 402 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: I've put a Chemolajea on over Kobe. Did you put 403 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: Kareem in there? I put Kareem fourth. You could put 404 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: him third if you want to. I didn't know. But 405 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: I think Lebron's number two in my mind. And what 406 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: he was able to pull off, I mean, this is 407 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: the stuff of like classic literature, like Homer's Odyssey. Every 408 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: culture on Earth has a hero's journey kind of myth, 409 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: and Lebron starts out, goes to Cleveland. He's a native son, 410 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: he stars in his hometown, has adversity, kind of quits 411 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: on the game against the Celtics. Everybody's down on him. 412 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: He has the decision, which was a bad idea, so 413 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: he's kind no, kind of about it. He's got all 414 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: these battles you have to fight before you slay the 415 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: final dragon, and last night was the final dragon. This 416 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: is he emerged victorious. That's the stuff of literal and 417 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: not just to come back, not that I like to 418 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: bring it up, but like the two thousand four a LC, Yes, 419 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: with the Red Sox, they didn't just get the monkey 420 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: off their back. They had to do it in a 421 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: grand way coming back on the Yankees. That's what Lebron did. 422 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: Not only did he come back to Cleveland and fulfill 423 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: his prophecy or his promise, he wiped out a seventy 424 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: three win team, winning three straight games, including two on 425 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: the road that end the block the legendary play. I agree, 426 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: I gotta put him in the top three. I don't 427 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: know about this. You've got in Cleveland, the drive, Sean 428 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: always drive, the fumble, Ernest Binder's fumble, the decision, Lebron's decision, 429 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,239 Speaker 1: the shot, Michael Jordan's shot that knocked the Calves out 430 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: of the playoffs, and now you've got the chase down block. Yeah, 431 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: love block block. Is that what they're calling it. Some 432 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: people call blanc I guess my love of friends the television, 433 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, I ought to contribute to this whole conversation. 434 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: I do, like you have Dr j on there want 435 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: I mean, not really, John's more of an NBA fan. 436 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: I mean I would say six is are pretty depressing 437 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: franchise at last. Then this game, and it definitely it 438 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: didn't hurt that. You know, I was rooting for Cleveland, 439 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: not I was jumping on you know, the bandwagon. I 440 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: have no history there. But this was one of the 441 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: most enjoyable non NFL. You know, I'm putting NFL to 442 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: the side, but most enjoyable, fun sporting events to watch 443 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: that I can remember. In the last like this year's playoffs, 444 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: they had several moments like that, right, But but the 445 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: game but Game seven, which it was a weird final 446 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: five minutes, But the game itself was fantastic, and the 447 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: last five minutes are so tense that you know you're 448 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: not worrying about some you know, strange plays going on. 449 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: I mean, that was that was one of the most exciting, 450 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: just awesome things I've ever watched as a sports What 451 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: better Father's Day gift to like? That was something to 452 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: look forward to all day and I just by luck. 453 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: Uh my wife's best friend was visiting from Texas and 454 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: her husband was at the house yesterday, an Ohio guy, 455 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 1: so he was wildly plugged in. So then I was 456 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: able to jump in through that there high fives, high 457 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: fiving about a Cleveland sports team. It was just that exciting. 458 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: I do love the finals though, I mean, like, that's 459 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: the finals. That's what actually pulled me into sports because 460 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: I didn't grow up around sports. My dad doesn't know 461 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: anything around about sports at all. Wait, figure skating is 462 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: not a sport now, Um, I mean you know I don't. 463 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: Do you watch it and root for figure skaters? Yeah? 464 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: I mean I do love Auxana Bayoul, But yeah, it 465 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: was the finals that drew me in all right there before, 466 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: but was the last thing to put a bow on it. 467 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: I think the coolest thing about what Lebron did was 468 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: he purposely set out to make a legacy play when 469 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: he left Miami and went to Cleveland. He had a 470 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: vision quest to come back and deliver a championship and 471 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: a fifty something your sports drought. And he pulled it 472 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: off like he could have gone anywhere. And he's like, no, 473 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: I want to put this on my shoulders, to give 474 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: my city or my neck of the woods as the 475 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: Native Sun their first Yes, one day, hopefully better than 476 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: believe learned it. They just burned. They say that they're 477 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: adding a new ending now, so they were ready for 478 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: at a new beginning in middle two Alex Burneh, all right, 479 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: here is the top three NFL players of all time, 480 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: by the way. Three curious, Yeah, I'm curious. So this 481 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: is a pantheon of NFL. Yes, okay, but this isn't 482 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: This is cannot be disputed. I'm thinking about it right now. 483 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: Number number three, Tom Brady, Number two, Jerry Rice, number one, 484 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: Jim Brown. It's hard to quibble. I mean, Lawrence Taylor 485 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: would be in my top five, and I think number 486 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: four Joe Montana, M I think our Lawrence Taylor has 487 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: to be top five. Yeah, he's in. I have I 488 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: have similar, but I'd go Jim Brown number one. See 489 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: the order. I didn't really work out the order completely, 490 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go Tom Brady to Lawrence Taylor three, 491 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: Johnny Unitus four. I have Johnny, and it just seems 492 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: like he has to be in that in that group. 493 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I we didn't see him play. 494 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: We don't know, but he's he's in that two minute 495 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: drill and took the NFL from and after thought in 496 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,239 Speaker 1: the fifties to the number one sport in the six. 497 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: He can't only have one quarterback at the top five. 498 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: That's that's what I say. And Jerry Rice fifth, I guess, 499 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: but I'm not excited about that. It's interesting if you 500 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: asked Paul Brown, who coached Jim Brown and Mary and Motley, 501 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: he says, Mary and Motley is the greatest football player 502 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,959 Speaker 1: in NFL history. Wow. Belichick always talks up Motley as 503 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: an underrated guy. A lot of people who saw him 504 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: play talk him up as as the guy. What about 505 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: like Walter Payton. Where does he end up? And he's 506 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: in the top ten. You're both in the top ten. 507 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: He's on my slightly longer list. When I was coming 508 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: up with it, but not quite there. I think Peyton 509 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: Manning should be in the top ten. I gotta think 510 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: about that list a little bit longer than just throwing 511 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: it out there. I'll tell you what. J. J. Watt 512 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers are going north with a bullet too. That 513 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: makes sense. Alright, could talk. Let's move on another one 514 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: marks ten favorite people ever? This woman uh Kobe Fleaner 515 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: is now a member of the New Hall in Saints 516 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: and Drew Brees is excited about the young tight end. 517 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: Here's the quote from The Times pick Une. We watch 518 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: a lot of film on him last year, just because 519 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: we played in the a f C. South. Breese said, 520 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: it felt like every time we turned on the film 521 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: to watch an opponent that we were about to play, 522 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: I'm watching Cults film or Fleaner film. It was like, Man, 523 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: this guy has an uncanny ability to separate. He's always open, 524 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: there's always a place to throw the ball where he 525 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: can get it. I feel like this is a trope 526 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: because we've heard this about Fleaner since he came into 527 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: the league, that he's a dynamic pass catcher, but we 528 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: haven't seen him put it together yet. You don't want 529 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: to get caught watching that Fleer film. I was all right. 530 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: West described why or explain why? Well, it doesn't surprise 531 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: me that a guy who is fast for a tight 532 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 1: end and pretty athletic, but never catches the ball when 533 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: anybody's within three feet of him, his starring an offseason 534 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: practices when no contact happened, exactly. He's kind of a 535 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: verse to contact, pretty soft. Whoa yeah, the the always 536 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: open guy in the off season. Chris Hogan uh nickname 537 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: seven eleven is famous for being great at this is 538 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: the time of year. And this doesn't make Sterling Shepard 539 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: any worse. I'm I'm sure he's all right. I would 540 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: think he's off to a great starting. It's good, but 541 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: this is the time of year that really favors guys 542 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: who are quick, quicker than fast, that can make come 543 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: in and out of breaks quickly. Absolutely, and Freeze is 544 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: hoping that he's always open because look at his Look 545 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: at his Brandon Cooks and Michael Thomas. Yeah, I'm always 546 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: reminded of a Rex Ryan quote about Chris Ivory this 547 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: time of year. He's a power runner. There's nothing you 548 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: can judge him on before the tackling starts and my 549 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: my take on it is I think Fliner will be 550 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: a useful player there. But if he had five seat 551 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: or more seasons with Andrew Luck, one of the best 552 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: quarterbacks on the planet, to become a star in that 553 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: type of offense, I think it would happen by now. 554 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: I guess it could happen with Drew Brees and other greats, 555 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: but I don't see it happening. Breeze uses his tight end. Look, 556 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: he got Ben Watson paid this year, and he'll probably 557 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: go right to him. He could definitely be his number 558 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 1: one guy. Good place to go to. Yes, it wouldn't 559 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,239 Speaker 1: surprise me if statistically he has his best season all 560 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: right over under game real quick West, Kobe flee or 561 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: sixty five catches, I'll go over yards. I'm going over again, 562 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: eight touchdowns under. Well, you're saying that the Saints offense 563 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: manufactures numbers. I'm not saying Kobe Fleaner will be a 564 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: great player. I'm saying the numbers will be there because 565 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: of that offense. He's got to hold onto the ball 566 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: to a little bit better. That'd be they'd be happy. 567 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: They'd be very happy if you were right about those numbers. 568 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: Christopher um that's what's happening in the news. Before we 569 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: move on, I just want to touch on this because 570 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: it came up before the show started. It. Uh. We 571 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: did our segment last week Unsolved Mysteries, Yeah, of the NFL. 572 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: Uh And and you told us Colleen that your hub 573 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: there's a connection there actually was on Mysteries or his 574 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: family was. Well Robert Stack, you guys are talking about 575 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: he talked about a case that um has been with 576 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:29,239 Speaker 1: John's family. So John's family, John's grandfather actually disappeared in 577 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: Las Vegas in the late eighties, and so they talked 578 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: about it on the show, and like his mom and 579 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: his grandmother were all over like local news and stuff. 580 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: And basically he owned a bar out there and he 581 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: would call his wife every night before he left the 582 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: bar and then every night when he got home because 583 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: she was living in Philadelphia at the time. And one 584 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: night he called her before we left the bar and 585 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: then that was it. And then they found his car 586 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: and it's just been a cold case ever since for 587 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: thirty years. Well, that's just sad story. So if anybody 588 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: has any tips, you can read me. I don't know, 589 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean it's a really outrageous A right, 590 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: they still got him working in shifts on that case. 591 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: All right, if you if you know anything about this, 592 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: there's no update that we could throw up that would 593 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: make an update whatsoever. Email us at find God and 594 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: Zoe's Grandpa at gmail dot com. Great, thanks for helping 595 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: in this. We're just doing our part. Yeah, but no, 596 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: it's just like it's such a weird and crazy story. 597 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: And when you guys started talking about Robert Stack, it's 598 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: obviously like the first thing I thought of it, right, 599 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: Mark confirmed in the last show he still did. Um, 600 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: do you ever draw any parallels because you have you've 601 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: been doing a long distance marriage to like, do you 602 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: call when you're about to leave NFL now for the day, 603 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: call Philadelphia where John Gonzoz your husband is, then call 604 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: when you get home that you know. I think that 605 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: this is a great suggestion. I should probably start doing 606 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: that Stack in question by Yeah. Yeah, so, um, hopefully 607 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 1: I will not have any more connections with the show. Alright, 608 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: find guys, Find Gonzo's Grandpa at gmail dot com. Uh Man, 609 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: Vegas to Vegas. Why are you putting your hand over 610 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: your face? It just got a little it's a little 611 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: something a little bit not right about it. Yeah, well 612 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: John will be the judge. I know John is gonna 613 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: be thrilled about this. I'm sure alright, moving on, moving on, 614 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: It is time again this segment. This next segment. Um, 615 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: this will not be unstop because we're gonna give uh, well, 616 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: I guess it is kind of unsolved mysteries. Yeah. This 617 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: will be a game where we go around the horn. 618 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: Each of us will lay out a plausible scenario that 619 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: could face a team this upcoming season, and then we 620 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: discuss how that team would go about, uh, you know, 621 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: dealing with the situation that has a risen. The name 622 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: is that a word arisen? Yes, it's a word held it. Uh. 623 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: The name of this segment is that was What do 624 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: you guys think of that one? It's perfect car? Maybe 625 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: you can try all right, we'll try to know it's 626 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: perfect that one. Think up the chisels. Irish did a 627 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: great job with the I asked Irish and said, Irish, 628 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I need something like kind of like clowney, 629 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: and that's what he came over. That's he's gonna he's 630 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: got a good shot at getting on Rushiman. That's Devion, 631 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: all right, listen, that's that's the type of joke by 632 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 1: West that usually we miss. And then all his followers back, Oh, West, 633 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: they don't pay attention to you. Good bit West, Like yeah, 634 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 1: like one for four d now in your career for 635 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: recognizing my bits to Devon County former first round pick 636 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: of the Houston Texans. All right, Colleen, Okay, so this 637 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 1: might be I know you said it's got to be 638 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: a plausible scenario. This might be a little bit of 639 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: a reach, but I didn't want to go with um 640 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: a quarterback situation. So after Carolina's front seven can only 641 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: mask so much, the Panthers secondary gets picked apart Kurt Coleman. 642 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: He tries to fill that leadership role lost by Roman 643 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: Harper and Charles Tillman when they left. But the young 644 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: guys they're pressing too much. There's too much pressure, and 645 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: they end up getting shredded. So you're left with Dave 646 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: Gentleman and Ron Rivera sitting in a dark hot room together. 647 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: Now what Alright, So it's like it really worries me. 648 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,919 Speaker 1: I know that Dave Gentleman drafted three straight corners. Um, 649 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 1: he drafted the one guy, James Bradberry, who is sort 650 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: of like Josh Norman, same stature, big guy, but you 651 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: have Kurt Coleman is the only returning veteran there, and 652 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: you have been a Ben Wickery Who's I mean he 653 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: went from Nicol, he's now playing full time. But you 654 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: have a lot of day Oh okay, thank you, I 655 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: stand corrected. But he has a lot of young guys here. 656 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: And yeah, the front seven is really awesome. But it worries. 657 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: I wasn't correcting. I was making a bid Day joked, 658 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 1: But no, I'm just gonna go for day ben Wickery 659 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 1: from now on. So now is you place a phone 660 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: call to Charles Tillman, who just came out over the weekend. 661 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: It says I only want to play for the Panthers. 662 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: He's not ready to return from his torn a c 663 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: L yet. But by the you know, early in the season, 664 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: I guess, is when this meeting has happened. After the 665 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 1: secondary gets rereaded, bring old Chuck Tillman back here. Now 666 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 1: what is I like Chuck Tilman, like Chas Tilman being involved? 667 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: Now what is you find a time machine and get 668 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: over your own ego and keep Josh Norman in town 669 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: for one more year because you never know how open 670 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 1: your Super Bowl windows. That's not realistic. Okay, that's fair, 671 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 1: it's notable. Okay, well that's what you say. Well, I 672 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: think the other thing that you do is you're like, 673 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: all right, we still play in the NFC South and 674 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: we're still ten times right than any other team. So 675 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: we're just gonna sit on this and see how it 676 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: plays out. And now what I think is, you don't 677 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: do anything that you you expect the system to eventually 678 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: correct itself. They get better by the end of the year. 679 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: You count on Cam Newton, the m v P and 680 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,240 Speaker 1: Kelvin Benjamin and fun just to just score more points. 681 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: And now I what might just be you win nine 682 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 1: or ten games or eleven games. You're not as good 683 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: as you were a year ago. But I don't know 684 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: if there's gonna be some magic solution in the middle 685 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 1: of this season for this, if this, if this happens, 686 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: all right, West, You're up so early December, Kirk Cousins 687 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: is exposed. As Greg Rosenthal wrote during the two thousand 688 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,879 Speaker 1: fifteen season, there's a guy who basically have one good 689 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: one good half season, played poorly in the first half 690 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: of last year, had one good half season against miserable defenses, 691 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: soft soft defenses. He's exposed in early December as a 692 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: mediocre quarterback who's not going to be getting a long 693 00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,720 Speaker 1: term contract Deshan Jackson, pure Garson contracts like Spire after 694 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: the two thousand sixteen season. You're planning for the future 695 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: in Washington. Now what now what you're thinking? That one 696 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: these pretzels were making. That was the dramatic rendering. I'll 697 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: here it one more time. Now what how long did 698 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: you spend recording me? Is? Yeah, that was my morning. 699 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: You still need I still need to finish. You know, 700 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: your classes at the is Stuck school and voice over 701 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: pretty good. Uh. Now what I believe is you offer 702 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:46,240 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins a two year, twenty six million dollar contract. 703 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: That's so that's sub premier quarterbacks money. Yeah, you fits him. 704 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: You see if he takes it, and Kirk Cousins is 705 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: the type of guy I think that might just take 706 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: it because that situation with the talent that's there. Uh, 707 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: you stick around. The account's still gonna be there. If 708 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: Deshan Jackson Pierre Garson leave, maybe they keep one or 709 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: the other, but still have Dotson, You have Jamison Crowder, 710 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: you have Jordan read those are guys that are gonna 711 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: be around either way. You're offering him that contract. If 712 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to take it, that's fine. He go 713 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: out in the open market because you're drafting some quarterbacks 714 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,280 Speaker 1: either way. What is because that conject should not prevent 715 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: you from drafting another one. What's the hardest fine commodity 716 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL A quarterback? Right, and this guy you're saying, 717 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: he's still gonna have an okay, it's gonna be an 718 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: okay season, but it's it's gonna show that he wasn't 719 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: really as good as he was. And we're talking about 720 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: a guy who before last before the middle of last season, 721 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,800 Speaker 1: had the highest interception rate I believe in NFL history. 722 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: So does he becomes that guy he turns back into 723 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: his back and at midnight, Okay, if he's actually bad, 724 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 1: I think Greg has the right play on this. If 725 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: he's actually bad, they don't know if him anything. That's 726 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: what happened. They do a trade for a veteran quarterback 727 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: to have there for a young guy too, just for 728 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: to have the year. So they're not the Jared golf 729 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: Ram situation. I mean, you forgive at at this time 730 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: last year even August of last year, when he outplays 731 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: r G three in the first preseason game and people 732 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 1: are talking about him being the better quarterback. Conventional wisdom 733 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 1: around the league is Kirk Cousins is one of the 734 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 1: worst quarterbacks in the league, that he's not a viable starter. 735 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: Year can change a lot. Maybe Scott mcgluwin, the Redskins 736 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: GM GO calls up his old buddy Colin Kaepernick. That's 737 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: what I was just thinking. There you go. That would 738 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: be by the way. I don't know if that would 739 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: work with Jay Gruden or what, but that would be 740 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 1: brilliant worked by the front office. It would be a 741 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: bummer that if he came down to Earth, but that 742 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: they were able to dodge that long term deal. If 743 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: you recall Mike Brown wanted to draft Colin Kaepernick and 744 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: Jay Gruden basically said convinced him to draft Andy Dalton. 745 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: Stead maybe you maybe you said, the Godfather offered to 746 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: Cincinnati for Andy Dalton. That would be so weird in 747 00:41:54,560 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: the world. Uh. Meanwhile, on the throne of sleeve, shocking 748 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: to know we were going here, which one is those No, 749 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: it's not, it's not because it's not sleazy, Yes, Stormy, Yeah, 750 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: this is the throne of sleeves. Um. I don't know 751 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: if you've heard, but Tom Brady is suspended the first 752 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: four games of the season. I do believe, in my 753 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 1: capacity as someone that falls the NFL very closely, that 754 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,479 Speaker 1: this suspension will stand in Jimmy Garoppolo, their former second 755 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,280 Speaker 1: round pick was he yes, yep, and the draft will 756 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,479 Speaker 1: make four starts. And here it comes. So what if 757 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo plays lights out for four weeks? Pats go 758 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: four and oh he pulls like a lebron in the 759 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: finals where he he leads all quarterbacks in every relevant statistic. Alright, 760 00:42:53,480 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 1: maybe let me take auble, won't do that. But they 761 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: go four and oh, he plays lights out. He's leading 762 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: the league in passer rating, he's not throwing picks. Uh, 763 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: He's playing exactly the best case scenario how they hoped 764 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 1: he would play. That this time spent seasoning under Brady 765 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: would lead to him stepping into the lineup and almost 766 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 1: playing like Brady when he took over the bledsoe, but 767 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: much better statistically in a new era. And then Tom 768 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 1: Brady comes back and like my other part two of 769 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 1: my prediction about the Patriots, he's still very good, but 770 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: we start to see some signs of decline, real signs 771 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: of decline, where his interception rates up, his yards per 772 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: tempt is down, his completion percentages down. He still performs 773 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 1: at a high level, but he starts to show his 774 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: age at age thirty nine, which is completely plausible. Then 775 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: you go to the off season two thousand, sixteen seventeen 776 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: off season, Brady's under contract through twenty eighteen. I believe, 777 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 1: what do the Patriots do? They have a young quarterback 778 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,839 Speaker 1: who is ready to be a star and a Hall 779 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,839 Speaker 1: of Fame veteran who's showing some signs of decline his age. 780 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 1: For the approaches, they pick up the phone and wait, 781 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: let me finish. Now what now? What? What? Now? Now? What? 782 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,959 Speaker 1: They pick up the phone. That was beautiful, By the way, 783 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: I didn't think that was the That was like the 784 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: euro dance. That was like Eddie Murphy, Beverly hik Erold 785 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: Faltim Verchant. It was a dance club in Germany. Now 786 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: what what now? Now? What? What? Now? You're wearing Neon? 787 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,280 Speaker 1: I'm seeing that in it? Yeah? Um they called Scott mcglewan. 788 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: This is getting meta. Yeah, I mean, I can't imagine Brady. 789 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 1: Here's what you do. You do what every coach in 790 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: the NFL always does. You delay the decision and until 791 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,280 Speaker 1: you have to make one. And Tom Brady's under contract. 792 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 1: Garoppolo is under contract for another two years after that, 793 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,280 Speaker 1: So Brady remains the starter and you have the best 794 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: possible insurance out there. But you'll never have Garoppolo to 795 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: higher value for a trade because if you if you 796 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,359 Speaker 1: wait it out. I see what you're saying, and let's 797 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,919 Speaker 1: say Brady does kind of crash at age forty, then 798 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,760 Speaker 1: Garoppolo steps in. Your guy. You're an annual Super Bowl contender. 799 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 1: You don't go out making trades just to compile draft picks. 800 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,919 Speaker 1: You keep your best roster party. Yeah, but you gotta 801 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 1: This is a golden opportunity to build for the future 802 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: because of the Tom Brady days don't last forever. Well, 803 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: in this scenario, I think there's one thing you can't do, 804 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 1: and that's trade Jimmy Garoppolo. Keeping Jimmy Garoppolo is the 805 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: thing you absolutely must do because you've identified of franchise 806 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 1: quarterback for the next X amount of years and that's 807 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 1: the most valuable thing out there. So if you do anything, 808 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 1: you very under the radar, only with teams that don't 809 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: let it out into the media. Maybe you listen to 810 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 1: see what the Godfather offers are for Tom Brady. Most 811 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 1: likely there won't even be good enough. You don't even listen. 812 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 1: They won't even respect that. Maybe that's true. You can't 813 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: trick me into saying you're gonna. I won't do it. Already, 814 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 1: got you already, got you Greg getting caught in it 815 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,360 Speaker 1: was yanked off your headset. You're training Tom Brady for 816 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:25,399 Speaker 1: a bag of footballs. Footballs please. I think you're right, though, 817 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:30,399 Speaker 1: Deference Scott mcgluwen in the in the Redskins a good 818 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 1: team to cough. Think how much Dan Snyder would give 819 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 1: up for subject changer if they give up five six 820 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: first round picks? Hey the Jets. What if Big Mac 821 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,839 Speaker 1: picked up the phone you can't turn and offered three 822 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 1: number one one picks for Tom Brady. That's not enough, 823 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,839 Speaker 1: not from the Jets. You can't trade them to somebody 824 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 1: in the division. You wouldn't want Tom to go there, 825 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 1: and potentially you can't do that. You can't do why 826 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,879 Speaker 1: not if Tom? If Tom Brady really wanted to get 827 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: out and you got some great offer three or four 828 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,839 Speaker 1: first round picks or something. You know that's I just said, Tom, 829 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: But then I would want to get out. Well, I 830 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 1: don't think Tom Brady would be thrilled to be in 831 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: this conversation. He would want he would want to make 832 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,720 Speaker 1: it clear. I mean, this guy that we just put 833 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,360 Speaker 1: on you know, the top five players of all time 834 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,880 Speaker 1: was traded away. Not only that, he was benched in 835 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: the middle of his prime at one point. I mean, 836 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 1: there's very Joe Montana bench. That's what I'm saying, just 837 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 1: as a sports fan, these things there's very few, you know, 838 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: Derek Jeter's, These things don't always end smoothly at the 839 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 1: end of a career, can get sloppy. Could. By the way, 840 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 1: that's reason number one why Tom Brady is better than 841 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,840 Speaker 1: Joe Montana. You know here about him getting bench for 842 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:50,280 Speaker 1: some backup. I do like the till next season. Montana 843 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 1: was like thirty four years old when it happened. I 844 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,359 Speaker 1: do like by the way, that Dan scenario to make 845 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,799 Speaker 1: a messy end to Tom Brady's career involves the Patriots 846 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: finding another eight franchise quarterback. That's the best he can do. 847 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 1: They're going forward. Oh this sounds got to mention him 848 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 1: traded trading Brady the Jets, and then Brady sucks with 849 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 1: the Jets, totally blows up in my team's face. Uh finally, Greg, Well, 850 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 1: I you know what I had. I had a Falcon's 851 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 1: related one, but that doesn't seem so excited. So I'm 852 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 1: gonna take the one shoe horn the falcons into our 853 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,919 Speaker 1: podgect No. I had a scenario, but but this one's 854 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: more exciting, It's more more. I thought this one was 855 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 1: really good. Well, this was the suggestion um from the 856 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: man old bird Dog, bird Dog Chris right, what was 857 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 1: that his name? Uh yeah, Chris bon This was this 858 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,800 Speaker 1: was his idea. But it makes all the sense in 859 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 1: the world. Sam Bradford leads the Eagles to the playoffs 860 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 1: with a playoff victory. You got Carson Wentz sitting back 861 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 1: there on the bench. What now, man, that's my favorite. 862 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,320 Speaker 1: The clown one is perfectually good. All right, let's do it. 863 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 1: Turn it. Let's pick out the best one first, clown 864 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,240 Speaker 1: that one, all right? Then the other finalists the panic 865 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 1: man Man Man, no one. I'm definitely voting for the 866 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 1: second one. I don't even think it's close. Man. If 867 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,759 Speaker 1: we could get the horn the clown horn on the 868 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 1: panic man. That would be really great. It can be done, 869 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:41,799 Speaker 1: It can be done. Yes, So Howie Roseman picks up 870 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,800 Speaker 1: the phone. He's feeling good about himself because maybe Carson 871 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 1: Wentz does show some like really good things in relief 872 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: of this like amazing Sam Bradford performance. So maybe people 873 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,240 Speaker 1: are like, oh, now they're interested in Carson Wentz. So 874 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:03,800 Speaker 1: maybe Howie rose And now calls his old friend Chip Kelly. 875 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 1: Maybe there's a scenario there or Trent Balky. I guess 876 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 1: it would be well, who does he try? He trades 877 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 1: Carson West No, Wow, you'd have to get a lot 878 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:21,439 Speaker 1: of picks, sad. How good is Bradford? What are we talking? 879 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,439 Speaker 1: We said he made the playoffs, he won a playoff game, 880 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 1: he was a top ten quarterback like at the back end, 881 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,720 Speaker 1: like a like a good Eli Manning type of season 882 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,400 Speaker 1: at the very yeah, a little bit. Trade Sam Bradford 883 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 1: as soon as human possible. And you keep in mind 884 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 1: that he can't stay healthy, that he's been average for 885 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 1: his entire career, and you factor all that data in 886 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: with the one playoff victory he just came off of, 887 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 1: which was basically Carson Palmer over the Packers. What if 888 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 1: you see nothing from Carson Wentz though during that time, right, 889 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 1: And this is a this is an NFL where it's 890 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 1: always win now. And you got a guy in Bradford 891 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,799 Speaker 1: who's thirty just start, you know, right in the middle 892 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 1: of what would be his prime stuff to give up on. 893 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,879 Speaker 1: But I tend to agree that you see what's out 894 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 1: there for Bradford, you can probably get a lot a 895 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,719 Speaker 1: lot more picks, get some of those picks back that 896 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 1: you gave up for Winz. History is instructive. The Chargers 897 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,400 Speaker 1: did this with Philip Rivers and Drew Brees, and they 898 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 1: let Drew Brees walk well, but he had a separated shoulder. 899 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Morgan, Bradford's gonna have separated something in a 900 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 1: few minutes. I don't know if it was separated, you know. 901 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 1: He That would have been interesting to see what they do. Uh. Actually, 902 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 1: Breeze is probably going anyways, but that's that's another podcast. 903 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 1: Um wow, that was fun. Guys covered your paper with 904 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:45,360 Speaker 1: a ton of doodles. Well I think that was during 905 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 1: the Patriots discussion. He was just like maniacally checkmarks on 906 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: his paper before the before some Brady retires, he will 907 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: drive me mad. Officially it's getting close. Well, we knew 908 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 1: by the way, you had an unfair advantage with your 909 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: pre show grade. You knew all the uh now what 910 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,759 Speaker 1: theme songs that you had prerecorded. That's what. That's a 911 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 1: juice that I knew. I knew I had that in 912 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 1: the back of my back pocket. But it also was 913 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 1: just the feeling that once West challenged the group, that 914 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 1: the group would like take it up a level. And 915 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,279 Speaker 1: I knew West, by having look at West's card here, 916 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,760 Speaker 1: he was gonna go all in with his NBA segment 917 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 1: and put stick it to us. So I took all 918 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 1: these different factors and added him up, and it tasted 919 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 1: like an a yeah, do you still feel that way? 920 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 1: I don't decide. I feel like people were wrapped. They 921 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,839 Speaker 1: didn't even hear your whole list. It's not even our 922 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 1: show anymore. We give it to the audience their show. 923 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 1: You had Oscar robertson eight, Jerry West is in there 924 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 1: at eleven shack or I'm just saying you did this work. 925 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 1: I want to get it out there. Well, I I 926 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 1: didn't think that reading off a list was gonna make 927 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 1: for a great podcast. I blew my wife and good 928 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,799 Speaker 1: to everyone. I'll just leave it there, say what it is. 929 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,399 Speaker 1: I'm not even finished the point. Can we go back 930 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 1: to giving m vps for the show that was TVs. 931 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:09,840 Speaker 1: I'll think Colleen wins it. That's great. I got no, 932 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,359 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna finish the point. Where was that coin? 933 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: You'll never know. Colleen's deeply perverted mind s the whole 934 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 1: thing down, and I'm proud. Alright, alright, alright, alright, here 935 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 1: we go. This is Dan Hanson signing off for Katty Fox. 936 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 1: I need the Panic man now, the Man, the Boss 937 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:54,399 Speaker 1: and Irish behind the Glass fall on Twitter till Wednesday. Man, man, 938 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:55,319 Speaker 1: now what