1 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Happy holidays, and welcome to a very special Covino and 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Rich over promised. We're from Fox Sports Radio Monday through Friday, 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: five to seven on the East, two to four on 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: the West. Check out our podcast search Covino and rich 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: and you can watch our show Monday through Friday on 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: the same YouTube page Covino and Rich FSR. So send 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: it to a friends the season to give. Y'll give 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: him the joy of Covino and Rich. 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: I am very excited to talk about Week fifteen of 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: the NFL. I got some picks that uh, you know, 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: bull your silk sat on. 12 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 3: These off my holiday socks. Offic yes, my stockings off. 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 4: Now, we have a very special guest today who happens 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 4: to be a music legend, a rock and Roll Hall 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 4: of Famer, but he's also a big time sports fan. 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 4: But get this, we welcome Jimmy Jam of Jimmy Jam 17 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 4: and Terry Lewis production fame, superstar record producer. But he's 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 4: worked with everybody from Prince Janet Jackson Boys to men 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 4: and so on and so forth. He's got a big 20 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 4: project coming up. But Rich, we love stats. 21 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: Right pause the stat Can you give him the one 22 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 2: shot camera again? Look at how perfect your stubble is 23 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: on the bear. No, look at me, sideway sideways look 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: at oh my. 25 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 4: Dude, I do that myself, you know. I mean, yeah, 26 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 4: like that shit, that's me skills, perfect skills to pay 27 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 4: the bill that it comes to the clips in the race, 28 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 4: I'm like a sohan that was. 29 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: Something to marvel at him. No, thank you, back to Jimmy, 30 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: point out. God, I gotta get that call. 31 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 4: I mean twenty three nominations eleven nominations for a Producer 32 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 4: of the Year. He is contributed to one hundred Gold, 33 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 4: Platinum and Diamonds Certified Records. 34 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: The guy's done it all man. 35 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, five time Grammy Award winner, Amazing Producer and uh, 36 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 4: I can't wait to talk to you. 37 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. We'll get to our picks. We'll 38 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: talk some ooosball all that, but uh, spotty, do we 39 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: have them on zoom right now? Do you have the can? 40 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: Get the zoom up? 41 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: Hey? 42 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: How are you man? 43 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: Thanks for your what's up? 44 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: Dude? 45 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 3: How you doing good? 46 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: To see we're good? Got the hat on and everything? Yo, 47 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 2: promo machine? 48 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 5: You know, Well, here's here's the funny thing. You know 49 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 5: what I said about these hats? I said did. I said, 50 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 5: do you have these in black? And they said, oh no, 51 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 5: we can get you some in black, and I said, okay, cool. 52 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 5: And I guess Liz is one of our partners on this. 53 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 5: So I'm like, give me a black one because I'm 54 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 5: you know, I'm all black all the time. 55 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: Yes, mine, how I roll? 56 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 3: Man, But they don't come in form I. 57 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 5: Can do that? 58 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: Way? 59 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: Man? Do I have. 60 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 5: I usually? You know what's really funny is I normally 61 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 5: I normally have it right here next to me, which 62 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 5: reminds me where I probably left it in my car 63 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 5: because I went to an event last night. But I 64 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 5: have a ton of hats around me all the time, 65 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 5: by the way, because I'm, you know, a baseball cap guy. 66 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 5: So I got my support musician's hat. So this is 67 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 5: a car Center, Guitar Center foundation. So gotta gotta rep 68 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 5: that I got my I got my Grammy, My Grammy. 69 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: I gotta rock that one. 70 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 5: Gotta rock the Grammy cat, you know, because that's some 71 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 5: good stuff. Trying to think what else do I have 72 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 5: around here? 73 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: Oh? 74 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 5: Here's actually my favorite one right now? Is this one 75 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 5: that'll make no sense to you. It says corn bread 76 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 5: on it. Cornbread is my ninety eight year old dad 77 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 5: and my very first gig was as a drummer at 78 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 5: twelve years old in his band. 79 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: You know, I saw that. I saw that when we 80 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: were doing research. You know, let's get right into it 81 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: with no further ado. I mean, we're here with the 82 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: legend music producer, legend Jimmy Jam, everybody. 83 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 4: Jimmy Jam, Judge an over promised. Thanks for your time, man, 84 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 4: thanks for having me. 85 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: No I gotta ask thirty one top ten songs. You're 86 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: doing this next verse fortieth anniversary and we of the 87 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: world inspired this. Give us, give us a scoop because 88 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: you got Bernod Mar's, Janet Dre, you got a lot 89 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: of your people involved. Man. 90 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, Well what it is for me is, I'll tell 91 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 5: you it's an interesting thing. So back a long time ago, 92 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 5: there was a documentary that was going to be done 93 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 5: on us, and one of the people they interviewed in 94 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 5: the documentary was Quincy Jones. And this was probably twenty 95 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 5: twenty five years ago, and in that footage there's a 96 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 5: bunch of footage of my kids as little kids, and 97 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 5: I wanted to get that footage. So I called the 98 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 5: documentary director and I said, hey, can you get me 99 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 5: that footage of my kids. So when he sent it 100 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 5: to me, the Quincy interview was on there, and Quincy 101 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 5: on this interview was basically saying, I love collaboration. We 102 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 5: are the world was the greatest collaboration ever. And then 103 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 5: he says, Jimmy and Terry understand that kind of thing. 104 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: Wow. 105 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 5: And when he said that, it was like wow, It's 106 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 5: almost like he's giving us instructions, like we need to 107 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 5: do that. So then the other thing that happened was 108 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 5: and I just happened to have it here. When I 109 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 5: got married to my wife thirty one years ago, we 110 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 5: asked everybody to bring us books, you know, bring me 111 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 5: a book, you know, to fill our library, that type 112 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 5: of thing. So one of the books we got was 113 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 5: Tony Robbins Awaken then the Great Within, right, h the 114 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 5: Giant Within. So Tony Robbins is the guy that runs 115 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 5: one hundred billion meals, so he was the one that 116 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 5: came up with that. That book was actually from Quincy's 117 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 5: wife at our wedding. So there was all kinds of 118 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 5: weird little things that were kind of saying, we need 119 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 5: to do this, and now's the time to do it. 120 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 5: And I don't even know how to explain it, but 121 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 5: God's alignment or whatever however you want to explain it. 122 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 5: And that's how we got into it. 123 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 4: So it's inspired by the fortieth anniversary of We Are 124 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 4: the World. It's a new song, the next Verse creating 125 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 4: a new song December sixteenth, and people could get involved 126 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 4: one hundred billion meals dot org. We're gonna talk more 127 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 4: about it. But I know you're a big sports fan too, 128 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 4: so I want to start by asking you, you know, 129 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 4: how would you describe the mutual respect or relationship between 130 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 4: music and sports because people like to separate them and separate. 131 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 2: Big go hand in hand. 132 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I know you're a big Timberwolves fan. I 133 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 4: know you're a big sports fan and music guy. How 134 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 4: do they go together in your mind? 135 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 5: Oh, they absolutely go together. I mean to me, if 136 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 5: you think about it, the whole atmosphere of any sporting 137 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 5: event is always the music. Whether it's We Will Rock You, 138 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 5: whether it's uh dun dun dun, dun, dun dun dun. 139 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 5: I mean, it's like right, I mean, it's always about 140 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 5: that those kinds of things. A matter of fact, Escapade 141 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 5: Janet's song Escapade was really because she wanted a song 142 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 5: that you could play like at a basketball game or 143 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 5: something to get everybody wrapped up. So it was almost 144 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 5: like sports and music totally go together. And it's interesting 145 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 5: because as a sporting fan, like the one thing I 146 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 5: would do, like back in the day when we'd go 147 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 5: to all the Timberwolves games, but we'd work at the 148 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 5: studio up until the game. We'd go to the game 149 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 5: and then we go back to the studio and work, 150 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 5: and it was like, but that was our one kind 151 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 5: of thing that we love to do. And we literally 152 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 5: would do our schedule around when there was gonna be 153 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 5: a Timberwolf game, Like if the Timberwolves were gonna be 154 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 5: in New York, we'd be like, is there something we 155 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 5: can do in New York on this day? Or Atlanta 156 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 5: or Sacramento or where. We would just go everywhere and 157 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 5: do it. And we were so bad back in the 158 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 5: day though. I remember the refs would come up to 159 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 5: us and they just go, you guys are really loyal, 160 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 5: you know, because we'd be on the road getting our 161 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 5: butt whooped and stuff. So but yeah, man, sports and 162 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 5: music totally goes together, and you think about it, people 163 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 5: that do sports want to do music. People to do music, 164 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 5: want to do sports. 165 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 4: It always seems that way, man, And for people who 166 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 4: don't know. You know, Rich alluded to it before, but Jimmy, 167 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 4: jam and Terry Lewis legends who forked with everybody, everyone 168 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 4: under the moon. He mentioned Janet Jackson. But you know, 169 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 4: we used to see rocking your suit and all the 170 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 4: videos and the hat and everything, so. 171 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: Well, I'll forget all the people he's worked with. Our 172 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: Boston friend Scott said he's the best Timberwolves fan there is. 173 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: He goes, he goes Jimmy. Jim might be the super 174 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: fan of all super fans with the t Wolves. I 175 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: mean when you see those players, some of these is 176 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: it cool when some of the younger cats acknowledge what 177 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: you've done for music, because these kids we forget sometimes 178 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: twenty something. 179 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, a lot of them have no idea. Somebody 180 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 5: asked me. So I was fortunate enough to, you know, 181 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 5: back in the early days, I got to know KG 182 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 5: really well and became sort of a mentor for him. 183 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 5: And as a matter of fact, he actually married my 184 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 5: wife's sister, so he was my brother in law for 185 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 5: a while. And he has two beautiful kids, one of 186 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 5: them is actually going to Michigan on no volleyballow. So 187 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 5: very cool. So you know, all in the family there, 188 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 5: but yeah, the newer guys because somebody asked me about, hey, 189 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 5: do you know Aunt, Do you have you guys spoken? 190 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 5: And I said, no, I don't think Aunt really knows 191 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 5: who I am. But I'm I'm a total fan. And 192 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 5: I got to tell you one of the thrills of 193 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 5: my life was a couple of years ago in Denver 194 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 5: when we won that Game seven there in Denver, and 195 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 5: that was against the Nuggets. That was the best, you know, 196 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 5: So yeah, I still am a fan. At one point 197 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 5: in time, we were such fans. At one point we 198 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 5: tried to buy the team. This was a while back 199 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 5: when they were trying to move them to New Orleans. 200 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 5: This is back probably eighty seven ish eighty eight, something 201 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 5: like that, and they were trying to move the team, 202 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 5: and Terry and I put together a group with Janet, 203 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 5: and we had Janet, we had Quincy, we had Denzel Washington. 204 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 5: We had a whole group of folks and we were 205 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 5: going to buy the team. And then Glenn Taylor came 206 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 5: in and bought the team, and they said, you want 207 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 5: to be a part of the team and I said, no, said, 208 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 5: we just wanted the team to stay. That was that 209 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 5: was our goal and it all worked out really cool. 210 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 5: But no diehard Timberwolves fan loved the new team. We 211 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 5: got to figure it out. But most of the teams 212 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 5: this year got if you're not you know, okay, see. 213 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: Okay, see everybody they can to lose more than one game. 214 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 5: Geez, by goodness, that's that's the start there. Off too 215 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 5: is crazy, but it'll it'll you know, some injuries will hit. 216 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 5: There will be some things that hit to turn that around. 217 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 5: And we know we've seen enough basketball to know that 218 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 5: at the beginning of the season, it's nice to get 219 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 5: off to a nice start. The thing that gets dangerous 220 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 5: is that if you don't, if you only have a 221 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 5: few wins, and let's say that record at all time 222 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 5: record is in, you know, how much do you go 223 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 5: for that versus you know what, No, we need to 224 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 5: wrest the guys and do that. So that'll be interesting 225 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 5: to see how they deal with that if they continue 226 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 5: to have the amount of success that they do. 227 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 2: Uh, Jimmy, jim, I got to ask back in the 228 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: day you brought up Quincy that documentary we Are the 229 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: World Where you saw he just had the respect of 230 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: every big name. They're all in the same room. The 231 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,239 Speaker 2: story behind We Are the World is amazing. Nowadays technology 232 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 2: has made things a little easier or has it heard 233 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: it or both? Like what's your thoughts on how you 234 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: could dial up a zoom session or back in the day, 235 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: like even in broadcasting used the racks of equipment. We 236 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: could do a broadcast from like the beach with a 237 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: little machine. Now, like, has technology helped or hurt? 238 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 5: It's it's changed it. I think it's your opinion on 239 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 5: whether it's it's better or not as good. Yeah, the 240 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 5: thing about We Are the World was, first of all, 241 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 5: they had a moment where everybody knew they had to 242 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 5: be there and in order to take part. And nowadays 243 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 5: we you know, we have people coming in we're going 244 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 5: to record when we do our recording of it, We're 245 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 5: literally bringing in people from you know, Janets in London, 246 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 5: Andrea Bocelli's in I don't even know where he's at, 247 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 5: Italy probably or somewhere like that. I mean, we're going 248 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 5: to be bringing in people from all over the place 249 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 5: in order to do it. They can't be there. I 250 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 5: mean we'll probably have thirty five to forty people actually 251 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 5: in the place, but then we'll be able to do it. 252 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 5: So the technology is a good thing in finishing what 253 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 5: we're doing because right now people are sending things back 254 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 5: and forth. Like I literally I just got off of 255 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 5: a zoom today with Sammy Hagar who's in Hawaii, and 256 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 5: he wrote me a beautiful lyric and then he said cool. 257 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 5: And then I got a call from Duran Duran who said, hey, 258 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 5: can you send us at Sammy Hagar lyric? We want 259 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 5: to try that in our version that we're doing. It's like, okay, cool, wow. 260 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 5: So those are the kinds of things, those are the 261 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 5: kinds of things that's happening. And then I got a 262 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 5: literally a FaceTime from doctor Dre who doesn't live that 263 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 5: far from me, and he just said, hey, man, and 264 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 5: he's showed me a studio. He said, man, we got 265 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 5: to mix this here. We got to mix this at 266 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 5: the studio here. So it's been just a great thing 267 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 5: to bring everybody together. But we've been able to do 268 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 5: it over zooms and technology in order to get people 269 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 5: together in order to write the song. And that's been 270 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 5: a kind of a cool thing. 271 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 4: I think thank you again. We're here with Jimmy Jam 272 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 4: over promised. There's always an ever changing landscape of sports 273 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 4: and new stars and new things going on, but the 274 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 4: same applies in music. How do you stand out as 275 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 4: an artist today? And how do you feel about the 276 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 4: oversaturation of the music that we get because there's new 277 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 4: stuff all the time. How's that changed for you? 278 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 5: It's tougher to find things that you like. I started 279 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 5: doing a playlist for people that would always say I 280 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 5: don't hear any good new music, and it's like, yeah, 281 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 5: because it's a lot tougher to find. But I always 282 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 5: finds that I love. But yeah, it's definitely quantity over quality. 283 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 5: So if you think about it, like, well, I'll try 284 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 5: to make I'm the King of the bad analogies, but 285 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 5: I'll try to make I don't know, I might be. 286 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: I say that title Jimmy Jam really really, I'm the 287 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: king of bad analogies. 288 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 5: But going so, I was gonna so, I was gonna say. 289 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 5: One of the examples I use is because of the 290 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 5: way the access that people have, Like so you used 291 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 5: to in order to even go in a recording studio, 292 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 5: to even touch a board or to do any of 293 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 5: those things. There was a certain protocol that needed to happen. 294 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 5: You had to have, you know, some sort of training, 295 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 5: or you had to have you know, somebody at least, 296 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 5: you know, a word of mouth that oh no, this 297 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 5: guy's really cool and something. 298 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 3: So you had to be vouched for or you had 299 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 3: to be read at the right Yeah. 300 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, so that had that had to be there. So 301 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 5: if you think about that, it's the same way I 302 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 5: think about a football field. So what if everybody that's 303 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 5: sitting in the stands watching the game decides, you know what, 304 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 5: I can go on the field. I can catch a ball, 305 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 5: I can throw a ball. You know I can do that, 306 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 5: Jay Listen. 307 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: We feel the same way as broadcasters. We've been in 308 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: radio and broadcasting radio TV for twenty years. They always say, 309 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: what a podcasts? And you know, buttholes have in common. 310 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: Most people have them and everyone has them when they think, 311 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: you know, because I mean, who doesn't have a podcast now, right? 312 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 2: I mean, so we get it like. 313 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 3: That, feel free to use. 314 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 5: That's the thing. It doesn't necessarily make it better. It 315 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 5: just means that more people are Yeah, everyone's going yeah, 316 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 5: So how do you stand out though? Like, you know, 317 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 5: how do you stand out from the rest when there's 318 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 5: so much of it. Yeah, I just think you have 319 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 5: to figure out a way to cut to kind of 320 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 5: cut through. And I think people are you watch the 321 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 5: way people use, you know, social media now they use Instagram. 322 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 5: I'd probably do more music discovery on Instagram than any 323 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 5: other place. Radio, though, is still important in its own 324 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 5: way because it's a curation system. I tell people all 325 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 5: the time, particularly DJs, that it's so important to you 326 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 5: remember the first time you hear a song, but if 327 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 5: somebody introduces you to that song. To me, there's a 328 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 5: specialness of the people that present that song to you. 329 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 5: So I mean, I remember a certain DJ, you know, 330 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 5: whether it's you know, back in my day, it's Donnie 331 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 5: Simpson or somebody like that saying hey, here's a new 332 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 5: one from so and so, and it's like, oh shoot, 333 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 5: it's like a friend telling you. And I think that 334 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 5: part of it is really important. So I think the 335 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 5: curation system hopefully continue to improve so that people who 336 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 5: don't have time to search for stuff all the time, 337 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 5: you can kind of hand them and say, hey, this 338 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 5: is gonna be good. You're gonna like this, and that 339 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 5: kind of thing. But yeah, it's tough. It's just a 340 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 5: lot tougher to find stuff. But when you find something 341 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 5: you like, like for instance, there's a girl, Olivia Dean, 342 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 5: who's my favorite new artist right now. 343 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: So Olivia Dean. 344 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 5: One of the things I did with her I went 345 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 5: to see her in Nashville a couple of weeks ago. 346 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 5: But I went and found out all the people who 347 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 5: she liked and all the people that influenced her. And 348 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 5: there was a bunch of people I discovered just because 349 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 5: I liked her. I liked what she was listening to 350 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 5: and the people that she so that to me is 351 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 5: a good way to connect. When you find an artist 352 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 5: you really like, see who they're listening to and who 353 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 5: they like, and a lot of times you'll be aligned. 354 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 4: Very cool and Jimmy, when you were saying that, I 355 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 4: pictured you as a little kid listening to the radio. 356 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 4: Was there a moment for you when you thought, yeah, 357 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 4: this is what I want to do. Was there a 358 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 4: song or a moment you could take us back to 359 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 4: where your parents playing you an album or are you 360 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 4: listening to the radio? Was there a moment or a 361 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 4: song that did it for you? 362 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 5: Wow? Oh well, okay, well I'll tell you that I 363 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 5: don't know there's a song on the radio that necessary 364 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 5: Well maybe it was because it was on the radio. 365 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 5: But I tell you one of my early earliest memories 366 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 5: was we were at like a family reunion or something, 367 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 5: and back end probably sixty six ish, I will say, 368 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 5: there was an album called It was called The Supremes 369 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 5: sing Holland dojer Holland, and it was a gold album cover. 370 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 5: And I remember looking at the album cover and I 371 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 5: said to my dad, I said, what is Holland dojer Holland? 372 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 5: Because I'm thinking Holland as a country. Yeah, and he said, no, 373 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 5: Holland dozer Holland are the songwriters? And I said the 374 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 5: songwriters and he said yeah. He said, so you know, 375 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 5: if you get a seven inch record and there's the 376 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 5: artist name, but if you look between the parentheses, there's 377 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 5: some other names. Those are the people that wrote the song. 378 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 5: And when I looked at those names, Holland dojer Holland, 379 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 5: I was like, okay. So then when I started getting records, 380 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 5: I would always look for the Holland dojer Holland. I 381 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 5: would always look between the I read the seas at 382 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 5: the name. And what that did was made me become 383 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 5: or want to become a songwriter because I never felt 384 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 5: I could sing good. I can't sing good. We'll just 385 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 5: put that out there. I sing terribly, but I can 386 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 5: show other people what to sing. I know what it 387 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 5: should be right, And so when I get the chance 388 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 5: to be in the studio with him. But that was 389 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 5: the thing. And then the other thing that solidified that 390 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 5: I told I mentioned, you know Cornbread. I drummed for him, 391 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 5: you know, when I was twelve years old. He's my 392 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 5: first professional gig. But when I met Terry Lewis that 393 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 5: same year, which was nineteen seventy three, Terry already had 394 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 5: a drummer in the band he had, and he said, 395 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 5: you should play keyboards. And I said why and he said, 396 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 5: because your dad plays keyboards, you should be able to play. 397 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 5: And I said, oh, okay. So Terry was the one 398 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 5: that switched me over to keyboards. And the drummer that 399 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 5: he had was Jellyban Johnson, who unfortunately just passed away 400 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 5: from the Time, the drummer from the Time. But literally, 401 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 5: that foundation of those groups back then became the Time 402 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 5: and Prince and all of those Minneapolis groups that led 403 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 5: to us being able to speak to you guys today. 404 00:17:59,520 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: Wow. 405 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 4: Amazing And by the way, it all times to the 406 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 4: other because it wasn't Prince supposed to be on We 407 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 4: Are the World and he just didn't show up. Sign 408 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 4: he did do his own thing. 409 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a that's a great parallel though, by the way, 410 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 5: So now he'll he'll get to be on it now 411 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 5: because of us. Because when Prince pass passed away, which 412 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 5: will be ten years this coming year, one of the 413 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 5: things we said is there's not really a decision we 414 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 5: make without thinking about what would Prince do, because he 415 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 5: was such a mentor to us and really taught us 416 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 5: work ethic. It's the biggest thing that he taught us. 417 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 5: But this is an example of all the people. Chila 418 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 5: is going to be on it, and Chileae was part 419 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,239 Speaker 5: of the original, but she's going to be on this. 420 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 5: Stevie Wonder was part of the original. He's going to 421 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 5: be on this. So yeah, we do have some of 422 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 5: the people that are there from the original. Wow, it's 423 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 5: going to be kind of cool now. 424 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: Jimmy jam hanging on over promised with Kevin and Rich 425 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: I'm just fascinated by how technology ai and this this 426 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: is sort of, uh, you know, something we have to 427 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 2: acknowledge in the world the music. I think there's something's 428 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 2: so beautiful about songwriting and what goes into it and 429 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: you know, your experiences that craft the great lyrics of 430 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: a song. Unfortunately, now you could just pop into Suno 431 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: or AI and just type in I want a song 432 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 2: about a hole in my sock in the in you know, 433 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 2: in country or a hip hop and it pushes it out. 434 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on this technology is it? Is 435 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 2: it just shitty for the music industry or do you 436 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 2: use it at times if you're missing something or what. 437 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 5: So my feeling about AI is that overall the technology 438 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 5: is great. The problem comes with the compensation and permission. 439 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 5: So I think you should be compensated. If you're what 440 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 5: you're giving to AI. You know, what's your being scraped, 441 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 5: you should be compensated for that. And also it shouldn't 442 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 5: be done without your permission. You should give permission to 443 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 5: do it. But I'll give you an example. There's a 444 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 5: couple of I won't mention names, but there's a couple 445 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 5: of you know, older artists that we're working with right 446 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 5: now where we needed to you know, undo or not undue, 447 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 5: but redo a piece of a vocal and we could 448 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 5: call them back and say, hey, can you come back 449 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 5: and redo this vocal, or we can just redo the 450 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 5: vocal based on what we already have from them. And 451 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 5: I think in that case, as long as we have 452 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 5: the permission of the artist to do it, then to me, 453 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 5: it becomes a great tool. And so for me it's 454 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 5: a great tool. But it can certainly be used in 455 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 5: the wrong way, and if the people aren't being compensated 456 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 5: for it or ask their permission, that's where to me 457 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 5: it gets. It gets to be a bad thing. 458 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 4: Jimmy, I'm thinking back at the original of the World 459 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 4: and you mentioned some of the names. 460 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: Stevie Wonder, I'm thinking Huey Lewis. 461 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 4: I'm thinking about that time, an apathetic Bob Dylan, he 462 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 4: was just there to hang prin. 463 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, Lionel actually, Lionel. By the way, Lionel's actually been 464 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 5: very cool behind the scenes with this. He's he's kind 465 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 5: of mentored me behind the scenes on on what to 466 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 5: watch out for and those types of things. I want 467 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 5: to instrumental. 468 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 3: Oh, that's awesome, man. 469 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 4: I wanted to ask you about the mystique of celebrity 470 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 4: back then versus the accessibility of celebrity today, Like today, 471 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 4: we need to know everything about everyone on social media 472 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 4: and everything. Back then, it was such a wall between 473 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 4: the fans and the celebrities. They were like godlike to us. 474 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,479 Speaker 4: You know, how have you seen that change? How does 475 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 4: it affect what you do? And I know Rich has 476 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 4: a follow up, The Evolution of Celebrity. 477 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it has definitely changed. Yeah, because people, well, 478 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 5: I remember when, you know, I remember when Twitter and 479 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 5: all that stuff first started and people would go here, 480 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 5: I am at the grocery store, and I thought, who 481 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 5: cares everybody? 482 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then of course we were wrong. I thought 483 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: the same thing, like, I'm totally totally wrong. I mean 484 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: a turkey salad sandwich. Yeah, who gives us ship? 485 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 5: Exactly? No, that's and that's what people want to see. 486 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 5: So it's interesting once again, I think, you know, listen, 487 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 5: I think it's a huge pendulum swing that goes back 488 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 5: and forth. I think a lot of the newer artists 489 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 5: I'm noticing now are much more. Some are very honest 490 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 5: in their music and what they do, and some are 491 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 5: very closed off. I love the fact I thought that 492 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 5: Janet was one of the people that when we did control, 493 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 5: which is forty years ago next year to be forty 494 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 5: years of control. That the idea of someone just kind 495 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 5: of telling their story on their records. And I remember 496 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 5: when she didn't do a lot of interviews, and she 497 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 5: still doesn't really do a lot of interviews. But I 498 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 5: would always say, if you ever want to know anything 499 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 5: about what Janet's thinking, just listen to her records. So 500 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 5: I think a lot of artists now are beginning to 501 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 5: put their thoughts, you know, if you think about a 502 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 5: Chapel Roan or a Billie Eilish or a lot of 503 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 5: these newer artists are putting their feelings on their records, 504 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 5: which then they don't have to do as much press 505 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 5: or as much you know, spotlight thing. So I think 506 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 5: I'm seeing a little bit of a less accessible thing 507 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 5: with some of the newer artists. But I you know, 508 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 5: once again, the choices are all there. You can kind 509 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 5: of do it the way, and some people love the 510 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 5: cameras on. I'll tell you one quick story. When we 511 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 5: were doing Spice Girls. Now this was twenty years ago, 512 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 5: thirty years ago, probably in their heyday. I remember we 513 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 5: went to London to do it and there was one 514 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 5: vocal we couldn't get with with Posh Posh spice. There 515 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,239 Speaker 5: was one vocal we couldn't get and they remember they 516 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 5: brought in a crew of people to film us, and 517 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 5: as soon as the spot all the bright lights of 518 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 5: the camera, I don't figure we're not going to get anything. 519 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 5: At this point, she lit up and she killed the 520 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,239 Speaker 5: vocal and I told the engineer record record, you know, 521 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 5: and we caught it. But what was interesting about it 522 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 5: was it showed different personalities. Some people want to be 523 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 5: very closed off and they don't want to be in 524 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 5: front of it. Some people, when the bright lights come on, 525 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 5: that's when they shine and so and I'm sure that 526 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 5: it's the same thing in sports. There's certain people that 527 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 5: are great practice players and they get in the game 528 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 5: with the lights and the crowd and they just can't 529 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 5: do it. 530 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 2: Jimmy, Jimmy, I'm telling you, not the name drop, but 531 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 2: Jerry Rice once told us that he goes, you'd be amazed. 532 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 2: What what said. There's some practice players where you're like, 533 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,719 Speaker 2: oh my god, this guy's amazing. Lights go on, they 534 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: turn off, and he would say that, and then there's 535 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 2: the opposite, the opposite. He goes, I'm not the fastest guy, 536 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: but in a game. No one's catching me. You see 537 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: that across everything to me, he said, Posh spice. I'm thinking, 538 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: how how adorable are her and David Beckham together? They're 539 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 2: grossly adorable together. You know. I had a question about uh, 540 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 2: like a good hypothetical we've discussed for a while. But 541 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 2: before I get to that, I do have a question 542 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,239 Speaker 2: about Lionel Richie. It was he because when you were 543 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 2: talking about how he was helpful to you, watching that 544 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: documentary about We Are the World made me realize that. 545 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: Like I was a kid of the eighties, I didn't 546 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: realize what a megastar, the charisma, and then you see 547 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 2: him judging on American Idol, Like is he maybe one 548 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: of the most charismatic, amazing people ever. Like Lionel Richie, 549 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: I saw a whole new perspect for him just by 550 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 2: watching that documentary. 551 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, he is. And exactly what you see and what 552 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 5: comes across in the documentary is exactly who he is 553 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 5: as a person. He is the most humble but great 554 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 5: stories and he I remember when we got nominated for 555 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 5: an Academy Award back in ninety three for again for 556 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 5: Janet Song, and I remember he took me to lunch 557 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 5: and he kind of walked me through the process. This 558 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 5: is how it's going to be, this is what you know, 559 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 5: and we ended up we ended up not winning. I 560 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 5: think Bruce Springsteen might have beat us out, but you know, hey, 561 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 5: it's Bruce. But anyway, it was like he was so 562 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 5: supportive and so cool, and we've struck up a friendship 563 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 5: and then we've been aligned in a lot of in 564 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 5: a lot of interesting things. When he got his star 565 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 5: on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, the person the people 566 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 5: that inducted him was myself and Jay Leno, and we're 567 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 5: actually recording the event that we're going to do the 568 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 5: recording event on the old Jay Leno stage, So there's 569 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 5: kind of a weird alignment of things there. And also 570 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 5: Lionel Ritchie and myself went into the Rock and Roll 571 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 5: Hall of Fame the same year, so we're kind of 572 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 5: aligned in a whole lot of different ways. But Lionel 573 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 5: is a superstar in any possible imagination as a friend, 574 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 5: as a mentor, and as a singer as a songwriter. 575 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 5: I mean, he's got it all. 576 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 4: Speaking of superstars again, we have the great Jimmy jam 577 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 4: here on over promised. He's worked with every Superstar under 578 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 4: the Moon has so many songs, songs for days. And 579 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 4: you know, since you're so connected to the Jackson's Janet 580 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 4: Jackson in particular, what are your thoughts on the thriller 581 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 4: movie coming out. 582 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to it. I haven't. I was supposed 583 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 5: to go to a not a screening, but I was 584 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 5: supposed to go to one of the tapings when they 585 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 5: were taping. 586 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 3: She saw the trailer though, right, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, 587 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 3: the trailer. 588 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 5: The trailer looks good. I like the way the trailer looks. 589 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 5: But I but I was supposed to actually go to 590 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 5: the film set and and see some of the stuff 591 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 5: and Entron Fuqua, who's directing the movie, as a friend 592 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 5: from way back. But I'm excited to see it. I 593 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 5: really am. And I'm you know, Michael's incredible. I mean 594 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 5: the fact I can pinch myself that Terry and I 595 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 5: got to work with Michael and Prince. I mean, I 596 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 5: think we're probably the only people that that's you know, 597 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 5: happened to and got to do a duet with Michael 598 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 5: and Janet together the scream do it. 599 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 4: Oh man, I hate to put you on a spot, 600 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 4: but were you impressed by one more than the other. 601 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 5: In different ways. They were. The Prince as a musician, 602 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 5: he's the greatest musician ever. To me, you could pick 603 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 5: up anybody's instrument and play it better than them. You know. 604 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 5: He just was that kind of dude. 605 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 3: And he can play basketball. 606 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 5: He was a really good basketball player. He was. He 607 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 5: was really good. 608 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: I'm telling you. 609 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 5: He was like Steph Curry man. He had handles. He 610 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 5: was serious. He was serious. And Michael just embodied music. 611 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 5: Michael wasn't necessarily a musician, but he could tell the 612 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 5: musicians what to play and make it, you know, really beautiful. 613 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 5: So to me, each in their own way, they were amazing. 614 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 5: Now they weren't. They weren't compatible, Like they never worked together. 615 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 5: And I don't think they would have been compatible, because 616 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 5: I can tell you Prince was literally start a song 617 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 5: and ended the same day. It's done, it's mixed, it's over. 618 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 5: Michael would be I remember when we did Scream and 619 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 5: he'd go, Okay, we have to challenge ourselves to really 620 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 5: make sure that we have the right lyric and it's 621 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 5: like okay. And after about two or three days of 622 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 5: challenging ourselves, Terry said, hey, man, the Lyric's fine, let's go. 623 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 5: Yeah he was overthinking it. Yeah, and that's right. He 624 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 5: overthought everything. But that was where Quincy came in as 625 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 5: such an important thing. And if you think about think 626 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 5: about Michael's tutelage. He started off with Barry Gordy at Motown, 627 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 5: he went to Gamble and Huff in Philadelphia, and then 628 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 5: he went to Quincy Jones. I mean that kind of musical. 629 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 2: Education. 630 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 5: Nobody has that like that. So yeah, he's an amazing dude. 631 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 5: So to me, they're both equally good. I mean, obviously 632 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 5: Prince is the one. They made it possible for us 633 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 5: to even work with Michael Jackson, So I mean, I'm 634 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 5: always gonna Princes my guy. 635 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 2: Nice. Now, Jimmy, jim, here's the question, not to be 636 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: prisoners of the moment or not to glorify the past. Yes, 637 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 2: when you see what's happening with Taylor Swift and the 638 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: Swifties around the world, is it comparable to Michael Jackson 639 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 2: in the eighties? Is it fair to make that comparison? 640 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: We often debate that. We often debate like is it 641 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: the closest thing? Is it on the same level? I mean, 642 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: who would know better than. 643 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 5: You it's the closest thing because it goes beyond the 644 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 5: music that she makes. It's about the way she affects culture. 645 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 5: The fact that you know, people will tune into a 646 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 5: Chiefs game who won't watch a football game. So when 647 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 5: you think about that, and if you want to talk 648 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 5: about that, I don't know, you can see it. I 649 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 5: have amongst my bracelets I do have. I do Taylor Swift. 650 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 5: That got my Taylor Swift bracelet. I gotlet that my 651 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 5: daughter made me. 652 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if it's a fair question then, 653 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 3: because he's a swiftie. 654 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 5: Michael Jackson, I gotta listen. I'm old. I've been around 655 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 5: a long time man, So I'm friends. I'm friends with everybody. 656 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 5: But I know, I respect Taylor. I love what she does, 657 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 5: and also she looks out for music makers. I also 658 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 5: respect that. You know, a lot of the decisions she's 659 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 5: made with the way she releases her albums, the fact 660 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 5: that they're on vinyl, the fact that she called out 661 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 5: a bunch of the streaming companies and said, no, you 662 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 5: won't put my music on here for free, and that 663 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 5: kind of thing. Yeah, so I like I like Taylor 664 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 5: a lot. 665 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 2: Hey, Jimmy Jim. You you work so closely with Janet 666 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 2: and it's been over twenty years now. I always thought 667 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: that she got such unnecessary shit for the Her and 668 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 2: Timberlake halftime show. When you see where society is now 669 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: as far as you know anything, right, how we like 670 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: showing a nipple, Like do you think like it really 671 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,719 Speaker 2: took its toll based on like something so insignificant when 672 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: you look back. 673 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a terrible It was a terrible time, 674 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 5: and it really changed a whole lot of things. Now. 675 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 5: The good news is obviously she survived it and really 676 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 5: thrived on it. I think it became almost a rallying point, 677 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 5: particularly for her fans, which was good. And but yeah, 678 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 5: I mean it's interesting that the other irony, there's all 679 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 5: kind of little ironies to it, but one is that 680 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 5: actually the head of the FCC at that point was 681 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 5: Colin Powell's son, and Janet had just devoted a bunch 682 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 5: of tour receipts or a tour you know, income to 683 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 5: his organization. And I can't remember what it was called, 684 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 5: but literally the concert ticket money was going to Colin 685 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 5: Powell's organization. 686 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: Wow. 687 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 5: And it's the fact that the Sun was the one 688 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 5: that shut her down effectively, but it changed the way 689 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 5: that you know, and and she was you know, banned 690 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 5: from the Grammys. But the only reason she was banned 691 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 5: from the Grammys was it wasn't the Grammys. It was 692 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 5: the fact that CBS, who had the Grammys, they were 693 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 5: the ones that said, no, we don't want her on 694 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 5: the show. But it just happened that the super Bowl 695 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 5: was on CBS that year. If the super Bowl would 696 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 5: have been on another network, it wouldn't have been a thing. 697 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 5: So there was all kinds of interesting little, you know, 698 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 5: things about it. But I think we've all learned from it, 699 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 5: and I think that you know, once again, she's survived 700 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 5: it and thrived in it. 701 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. I just always thought such unnecessary nonsense because I mean, 702 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 2: it's Janet's a legend. And I was like that one 703 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 2: little moment, like looking back, it's like we cared about that. 704 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 2: I don't know, just it always bothered me. 705 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 5: Well but see, but that's once again when technology comes 706 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 5: into it. Because we never had the technology to freeze 707 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 5: frame a thing on a TV. YouTube didn't really exist 708 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 5: or wasn't you know, it had just started off. Yeah, 709 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 5: and all of a sudden that became a thing. It's like, oh, 710 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 5: you'll see it on YouTube, you know. Yeah, if we 711 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 5: all would have had stock in it, it would have been great. 712 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 3: So now back in then, true, we could talk to 713 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 3: you all day. 714 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 4: I want to thank you for your time again, Jimmy 715 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 4: jam On over promised Fox Sports Radio, Cavino and Rich Now, 716 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 4: can you tell us how other people can get involved 717 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 4: with one hundred billion meals dot org? 718 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: How do people go there? Right? Yeah, but you can 719 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 2: actually zoom. 720 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 4: In, like you could be part of the session and everything, right, well, yeah, 721 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 4: tell you about it. 722 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I can totally. You can totally be part of 723 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 5: the session. So you can join for free on zoom 724 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 5: if you make a ten dollars donation, which is forty 725 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 5: four meals, it gets you a little elevated access type 726 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 5: of thing. And then there's also what's called the Life 727 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 5: Savers Club, which is a nineteen dollars per month, nineteen 728 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 5: ninety five per month that gets you an even more 729 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 5: elevated experience in Zoom. So yeah, but the thing is, 730 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 5: please join us on the sixteenth of December, It'll probably 731 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 5: be around eleven o'clock Pacific time, and you can be 732 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 5: the fly on the wall as we kind of try 733 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 5: to recreate the in the inspiration of We Are the 734 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 5: World with a ton of different stars not only in 735 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 5: the place but also around the world. 736 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 2: On Zoom Wow. Jimmy Jam of course a guy that 737 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 2: knows everyone Jimmy before you go, Is there one rando artist? 738 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 2: We were looking at the list of people you've worked 739 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: with and it's just endless. I'd spend ten minutes just 740 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: naming them all. Is there someone that you have an 741 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 2: oddly fun relationship with that most people want to know, 742 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 2: Like Yo, you click so amazingly with hill ooh wow, 743 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 2: like like an odd couple like wow, would you believe 744 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: Jimmy Jam's pals with Blank? 745 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 5: Oh? Wow? Yeah, prob man. I'm trying to think that's 746 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 5: really funny because normally people go, who haven't you worked with? 747 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 5: Who you want to work with? 748 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: That's normally the question. 749 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 5: Who is Wow, dude, I've had You know what, when 750 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 5: I come back on the show, if I get invited 751 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 5: that teaser, I'll think about. I'll have to think about 752 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 5: who that is. That's like a weird you know partner 753 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 5: that I oh, oh yeah, okay, I'll tell you when 754 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 5: that comes to mind. I'll tell you who comes to mine. 755 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 5: So last year for my birthday, or not for my birthday, 756 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 5: but a couple of years ago on my birthday. And 757 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 5: the guy's name is slipping my mind, so forgive me. 758 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 5: But there was a DJ that was getting a star 759 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 5: on the Walk of Fame and I had met him 760 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 5: through some people at the Stern Show and stuff, and 761 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 5: they said, he said would you come out? And I 762 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 5: said cool, and so I came out. Star ceremony happened 763 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 5: to be on my birthday. And when he goes on stage, 764 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 5: he starts talking and then he goes, oh, Jimmy Jams 765 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 5: here today, it's his birthday. Let's sing Happy birthday to him, 766 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 5: and every buddy starts singing. Sitting to my left was 767 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 5: Billy Idle. Billy Idyl is yelling in my ear, happy 768 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 5: birth with accent and we're now and we're now friends. 769 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 5: She has a documentary. Yeah, and I just hosted actually 770 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 5: an event at the Grammy Museum where they showed a 771 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 5: screening of his movie and all of that, and so yeah, 772 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 5: Billy Idol is like a buddy. 773 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 4: Now that's so cool thee Yeah, Jimmy jam what a 774 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 4: pleasure talking to you again. 775 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 2: People can find that all this stuff at one hundred 776 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 2: billion meals Dot org at one hundred billion meals. 777 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 4: On December sixteenth, you could be there, Joy on zoom 778 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 4: and thank you again for your time, thanks for being 779 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 4: on over promised Fox Sports Radio. 780 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 3: And we'll take you up. 781 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 4: On that rain day. We'll hang out. We'll do it 782 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 4: again a rain day. That's it, right day, rain day. 783 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 2: Thank you, Jimmy Jam. 784 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 4: Thank you guys, Thank you man. All right, thanks again 785 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 4: to Jimmy Jam. 786 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 2: How good is that? 787 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:56,959 Speaker 3: That was really cool? 788 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 4: Appreciate your time and hope you guys enjoyed that legend 789 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 4: musical legend right there. 790 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 2: Now it's time to get down to business Week fifteen 791 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 2: of the NFL. Three quick picks. Let's lock these in. 792 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,720 Speaker 2: I actually really like these, No disrespect to the Bills, 793 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 2: but not so fast, Patriots. The Patriots beat the Bills 794 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 2: earlier this year. Hard to beat a team twice, especially 795 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,919 Speaker 2: division team that you have such a rivalry with. Now, 796 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 2: Josh Allen showed a little heart last week in that 797 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 2: snow game against the Bengals. So I just like the 798 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 2: Bills money line, they're playing in New England. But to 799 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 2: think that the Patriots beat them twice in a year, 800 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 2: that would almost like clinch a division for them up 801 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 2: not so fast. So I like the Bills money line. 802 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 2: Just win the game. 803 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 4: I'm not saying you, but I feel like the general, you, 804 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 4: the collective, you likes to downplay the Patriots too, though 805 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 4: that is true. 806 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 2: Drake May, We'll see. How about this? The Rams out 807 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 2: here in La, put them up, Put them up. The 808 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 2: Lion's got some courage, wicked style. They're five and a 809 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 2: half point underdogs. Now I'm not saying they're gonna come 810 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 2: to LA and be the Rams, who I still think 811 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 2: are arguably the best team in the NFC, but they 812 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 2: showed some freaking heart last week Thursday Night against the Cowboys. 813 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 2: They have a shorter the Rams have a shorter rest. 814 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 2: The Cowboys Lions game gave the Lions a little extra 815 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 2: rest time. So even if they don't win, I like 816 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 2: them to keep it close. So Lions plus five and 817 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 2: a half. But bam, lock that in. Even if they 818 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 2: don't win, they just need to keep it close. And 819 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 2: what have they got? Did Ain'tkoius? And this is a 820 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 2: simple one. I'm calling this the old This is the 821 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 2: teaser bet of the week. Maybe not double digits, but 822 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 2: definitely a Tuddy. The forty nine Ers and Seahawks, two 823 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 2: teams headed for the playoffs. In my opinion, they're playing 824 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 2: shitty teams. The forty nine Ers are playing the Titans 825 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 2: two and ten. The Niners are twelve and a half 826 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 2: point favorites. I'm not sure they'll win by double digits, 827 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 2: but they'll certainly win by a touchdown. Right, So Niners 828 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 2: minus six and a half. And as much as I 829 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 2: love the story of like Yo, is it gonna be? 830 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 2: Philip Rivers, Who's it's gonna be? The Cults have to 831 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 2: travel to Seattle without a quarterback yet lock in the 832 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 2: Seahawks minus five and a half. They're eleven and a 833 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 2: half points favorites. But I, you know, maybe not double digits. 834 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 2: Maybe there's a miracle, But I like the two Western 835 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 2: Conference NFC West teams to win big here. 836 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 4: I like you. 837 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 3: I like it. 838 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 2: So spots say it, screenshot it, Josh Allen Detroit and 839 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 2: some NFC West domine shall And that's your week fifteen locks. 840 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 4: All right, Well, you remember to follow us Covino and 841 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,760 Speaker 4: Rich FSR on YouTube. Check out our show Monday through Friday. 842 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 4: Thanks again to Jimmy Jam shout out to my Grandma. 843 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 4: She was a hell of a basketball player. Broita, there 844 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 4: you go, Tita, thank you. 845 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 2: Hey, we'll see guys tomorrow. Rima, there you baby, see 846 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,280 Speaker 2: you in the over Promised Land. Good Bye, Peace,