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Speaker 1: you everyone. Just the meat Eater Podcast were recording in

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Speaker 1: the warm and sunny Juno, Alaska, the only state capital

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Speaker 1: not joined to the International Highway System. But you can't

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Speaker 1: drive out of Juneo. How many people live here? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Was it thirty five thousands? No idea, It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Not many people live here. For a state capital, um

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Speaker 1: surrounding us as Tongas National Forest, And we've been here

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Speaker 1: in Juno for four days of action packed sooty grouse hunting,

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Speaker 1: which is something you probably haven't heard of before. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: lay some quick groundworld. Well, no, no, The first thing

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about who's here? Um, we have

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Speaker 1: our representative from the famous Hunt to Eat T shirt company.

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Speaker 1: Honest tell us he's wearing his Hunt to Eat shirt.

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Speaker 1: Garrett Smith, he's wearing a Hunt to Eat shirt. Did

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Speaker 1: you buy that or get that free? Gurt? I can't say.

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Speaker 1: but really, if you wanna, um, we've got we've got

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Speaker 1: shirts in stock. Janice long Tong, Yanni, Yanni Chamani whatever

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Speaker 1: now at Hunt to Eat. And I want to point

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Speaker 1: out I have nothing to gain a Steve the host.

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Speaker 1: I have nothing to gain from you buying, um y

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Speaker 1: In fact, I'll point out I have something to lose

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Speaker 1: because if you get rich and famous from selling T shirts,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna work here anymore. That's not true. You

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Speaker 1: don't know that. You might just do it like oh

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Speaker 1: the goodness of your heart. So yeah, I like my job,

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Speaker 1: you know, so I can only lose from telling you

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Speaker 1: got him in dock. Why don't you sell him for

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Speaker 1: un But wasn't there a special deal where people could

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Speaker 1: There was? But this is tough because we're recording this now.

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Speaker 1: It's uh may, who knows when this is gonna air,

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Speaker 1: So it's tough. Anyways, check the website. Yeah, maybe I

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Speaker 1: have a special goal full price man Um Garrett Smith Garrett, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you weren't born in Miles City, Montana, Great Falls, Montana.

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Speaker 1: Born in Great Falls, Montana. He's working with right now

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Speaker 1: because his old man. In a roundabout way, not not

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Speaker 1: to diminish your talents, but in a roundabout way, because

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Speaker 1: you're old man's friends of my brother. Talk about nepotism,

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Speaker 1: Yanni's friends of my wife. Full circle. Mike washed Leskie's here.

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Speaker 1: He's not friends of anybody. He Mike got his Mike

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Speaker 1: get How did you come to work here? Mike? Uh? Since?

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Speaker 1: And he email to sence to me yeah, did you

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Speaker 1: think about sending me one? No, I didn't have it.

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Speaker 1: I watched an episode on television like a year ago

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Speaker 1: whenever you didn't pull the trigger on that bear at

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Speaker 1: Military is imposing martial law in Texas, take everyone's guns.

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Speaker 1: cutch Mark what nationality is that? Polish? Yeah, he didn't

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Speaker 1: really get his job honestly because you came on recommendation

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Speaker 1: that's an honest way to get a Job's on a

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Speaker 1: day all piste off while we're hunting blue grouse. I

423
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: called Barbe and asked her how to find him, and

424
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: she gave me some tips that just explaining over the

425
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: phone did me no good, and then we just got

426
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: We continued. We had one more day hunted, the last

427
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: day of the season, and didn't find any birds. Yeah,

428
00:27:55,400 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: A year goes by and we email with and become

429
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: friends with Barb and Fanagal and invitation up to come

430
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: and hunt Blue grows with Barbed for four days which

431
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: just ended, and we fucking slay them, slate them. We really,

432
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: we really worked bar We just we kind of gave

433
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: her the one to punch we could like we really

434
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: A couple of phone calls, really had our tails tupe

435
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: between our legs, were like, we have a good time

436
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: to even hold this one on her. Um, you do

437
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: you do what you pulled on her? But your daughter,

438
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: my daughter, No, you're not your dog daughters. Yeah, y'alln't

439
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: even got y'alln't even took it to this to to

440
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: try to finagle an invitation on the bar. You went

441
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: as far as to well, because it's not everybody that

442
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: wants to jump on TV. There's a lot of people

443
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: that do want to be on TV. Some people could

444
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: give a ship, don't need, don't need anything to do

445
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: with TV. There's people who want to come on a

446
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: TV show because they they could be fun. They want

447
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: to hang out, go on a free trip, it'd be fun.

448
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: They've always curious about how TV shows get made okay.

449
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: There's people who want to come on t VO because

450
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: they gotta sell. They want to sell something like, oh,

451
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: Yanni comes on the podcast, sells t shirts, like they

452
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,239
Speaker 1: got a thing. They're gonna get a specific, concrete thing

453
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: they're going to get out of it. That's hunts Eat

454
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: dot com. And then you got what were the other

455
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: kinds were identified? And I tried to have it be three,

456
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: but we identified five kinds of people that want to

457
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: be on TV. They wanna be a guest on TV show.

458
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: There's people who would just do it. They don't want

459
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: to do it, but your buddies with them and they'll

460
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: just do it, which is pretty much what happens as

461
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: a bar. But anyways, the card I pulled on her

462
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: as I said, look, I've got two daughters, and there

463
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: are no great female hunting role models out there, let

464
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: alone with blue grouse hunting, right, Please show them how

465
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: it's done. And so Barbe has been hunting blue grouse

466
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: twenty five years. She hits it hard. Yeah, And what

467
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: was interesting that I realized about her this evening at

468
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: dinner is that, um, she's got a very deep hunting resume.

469
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: She passed around her a little portfolio of pictures, and

470
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: Barb's kills just about everything in the state of Alaska

471
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: and moves doll sheet her family daughter when she's a

472
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: very little girl, which makes me like her even more

473
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: because she's just into going hunt blue grouse. Yeah, she's

474
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: un all the big game, but she is like a

475
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: blue grouse hunter, and she took us out and taught

476
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: us how to find those things. And I can't even

477
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: I'm trying, I'm searching. I don't know what the method is.

478
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: Corey today commented, the blue grows signing is good for

479
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: It's like good for anyone who has good hearing, is

480
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: in good shape. Did you quit it to golf a

481
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: little bit? No? No, I well, I said the opposite's

482
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: it's just I guess it's a you know, it's a

483
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: hunt that's probably not meant for deaf people and people

484
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: out of shape. That's how I put it. But yeah,

485
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: you know, I meant barbed. The first day we got here,

486
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 1: we flew in, I mean, Yanni, We're talking to her

487
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: in the hotel and I was like thinking to myself, Oh,

488
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: this is this is gonna be a breeze. You know,

489
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: barns probably in her fifties, I would say, mid fifties,

490
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: and uh, we're just gonna walk around in these nice parks,

491
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: forest parks and look for these birds. And first day

492
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: we're sweating, you know, within fifteen minutes because everything is

493
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: straight up and down here cover to moss, sofer moss.

494
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: Thank god it wasn't raining. And she crushed us. I mean,

495
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: she pretty much left us in the dust. Really, I couldn't. Like,

496
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: I still don't understand how she was doing it. Just

497
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: a climbing fool. Yeah, she smoked us and maintaining. Day

498
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: one she made one of our cameraman quit. It. Shouldn't

499
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: even have pink accents on her gun. Nope, smiling, no paint,

500
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: no paint needed. Yeah, did it without mascara. Just out

501
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: there hammering the mountain and on point. She was always

502
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: knowing what she was doing and looking forward. Yes, so

503
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: barbed hunts, buy herself like that. Here's how she hunts.

504
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: Her husband doesn't have blue grouse anymore, and he'll come out.

505
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: They'll go out on their boat and sometimes they'll just

506
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: go out and cut the engine on a calm day

507
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: and drift off the you know, out in the ocean,

508
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: listening up on the surrounding mountains to hear some hooters

509
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: going off. Then Barbe's husband, well bring her up and

510
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: beat or they got a flat bottom boat, like a

511
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: big boat. They can sleep on the thing, you know,

512
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: and carry his already act around on it. But he'll

513
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: go up and beach around the beach, and then she'll

514
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: go hunt all day um while he trolls for salmon.

515
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: And then she carries a orange banner with her so

516
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: she don't need to pay any attention to where she

517
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: winds up. She usually belines it and I'm talking temperate rainforest,

518
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: I mean rainforest. She blines it up to you know,

519
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: hundred feet hunts, comes down, hits the ocean shore, hangs

520
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: up her blaze orange banner so that her husband, while

521
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: he's trolling up and down the shoreline will notice the

522
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: banner and not to come get her all spring. She

523
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: says that they don't start fishing hall but until spring

524
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: hooter season is over. There is probably no other person

525
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: who's that committed. If they if they are, please email me.

526
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: You're honest, stop but tell us at zero point zero

527
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: dot com. I would love to talk to you, because

528
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: every I've read a handful, the only place that publishes

529
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: blue grouse hunting articles. Is like uh Laska Department of

530
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: Fishing fishing game because they try to promote it to

531
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: new hunters and stuff like that, you know, And so

532
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: they'll they're always every year they'll round up some dude

533
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: who's gonna write like a blue grouse article, and the

534
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: blue grouse article will be like, oh, there's this zany thing. Um.

535
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm usually into something else, but so every now and

536
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: then I'll go do this anything. And the birds are

537
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: like and no one can write an article without using

538
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: the word ventriloquist. They're like a ventriloquist. And you know,

539
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: it's just silly kind of anything. That's like what it

540
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: brings out in people. I don't know why people are

541
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: down on it, except that I think it might be

542
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: that when you find the bird, you shoot it. Out

543
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: of truth the twenty two. It's not wing shooting, you know,

544
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: it's not win shooting. Except that the article that we

545
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: read that was publishing the Juno newspaper wasn't he afforded

546
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 1: to me before we came here. But this guy wrote

547
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: an article about it, how he was so into it,

548
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: and he said that I thought he wasn't into it.

549
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: I thought. He's saying, I'm not a big hunting guy

550
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: now and then I'll go do this. Well, my point

551
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: is that all the effort that he put into finding

552
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 1: these birds, he wasn't gonna shoot him with twenty two.

553
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: He just took his dead. Guy smoked him out with

554
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: truth with the twelve gage, which I don't know most

555
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: of the birds we found, you were gonna kill the

556
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: twelve gage too far away? Yeah, I was gonna say, man,

557
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: they were high because bullet drop is an effect but

558
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: affected by vertical distance. But shotgun spread is he's saying

559
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: he's shooting, he's mostly walking away from a lot of birds,

560
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: or he's not find him because he's not gonna be

561
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: shooting him with a twelve gages seventy yards in the

562
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: size of a softball the body unless he's go up

563
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: there with with a bunch of heavy shot up super

564
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: turkey choking a bunch of heavy shot. Maybe yeah, talk

565
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: to that guy. Anyways, he did make a thing. He

566
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: likes shooming a scatter gun. They don't jump, So that's

567
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: the thing, is like, like, who do you guys ever,

568
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: you guys ever hold ducks off the water with a shotgun.

569
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: He's Texas. Did you not do it because because you

570
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: don't hunt ducks, or you not do because you think

571
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: it's unsportsman, Like I said, don't ut ducks? All right? Yeah, no,

572
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: that's something I we go duck hunting, and we'd always

573
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: I guess the etiquette was to let him get off

574
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: the water first. Yeah, it's weird, man, because you're saying

575
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: I see both sides of it. You know. When you're saying, yeah,

576
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: I want this thing to be dead and I and

577
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: I wanna give it a chance, we'd also be saying

578
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: I'm also giving it more of a chance that it's

579
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: gonna that I'm gonna hit it with a bb and

580
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: not kill. It's like you want it, dad, but you

581
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: can make it dead, you know, shoot it. But it

582
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: is unsportsman. It's generally regardless unsportsman, like the hose a

583
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: duck off the water. That's how market hunters used to

584
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: do it too. But is that the same as like

585
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 1: shooting a deer bedded to listen, man, I will fight

586
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: that to the dead dye. It is not no listen.

587
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: It's way different. I think that to shoot a betted

588
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: animal is a sign of good hunting, not bad hunting.

589
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: It's like you've done your work right. There has no

590
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: idea there, like you put on you put such a

591
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: good stock on that you found the thing laying. You know,

592
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: you don't like drive up on a bedded animal. Mm hmm. Yeah.

593
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: People might be confusing betted animal with like animals asleep

594
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: and like you're fathering along after Thanksgiving dinner was passed

595
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: out on the couch. Like that's not the animal you

596
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: sneak up to. These animals aren't just snoring with their

597
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: head and on the ground. You just having having stands

598
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: across him and then get to boom them. No, betted

599
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: animals like it's on full alert, you know, in its

600
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: bed in a safe spot where you can see all

601
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: around it. He's got the wind coming in the right direction,

602
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: he's got covered behind him. And like you're saying, if

603
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: you sneak in there, you've done something special. Now, if

604
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: you opposed shooting bedded animals because the shot placement problems,

605
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from. The shot places was

606
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: difficult on bettered animal. But we filmed the thing. We

607
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: we filmed the animal uphunt. I belly crawled, I mean

608
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: I spent a long time belly crawling up on an antelope,

609
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: very hot, very uncomfortable, belly crawled on an antilope, got

610
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: close to it in his bed, had a perfect shot,

611
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: killed it, and never even stood up. Blamn dead. Some

612
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: guy writes an email like I've hunted all six continents

613
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: and that that that I never see anybody shoot a

614
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: betted animal. I'm I don't know. You must be not looking,

615
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 1: you know. He was like, morally outrage, not about shot placement,

616
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: but just the coward you know, how cowardly it wasn't

617
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: shooting better animal. So it's like, so is it cowardly

618
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: to shoot an animal running away from you? Shooting him

619
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: in the back? I think his bs. But the whole

620
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: shooting birds out of trees thing, I think that that

621
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: might be a thing is because guys and hunt birds

622
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: like wing shooting, and it's not wing shooting. Garrett, you

623
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: don't need to raise your hand, dude. Well, I was

624
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: thinking with you talking about the better down animals and

625
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: getting a good hunt on him. It takes that skill

626
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: and effort. And it seems like with the grouse, the

627
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: Souti grouse in particular, I mean to get up in

628
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: that country to find out where that sounds coming from

629
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: to find him in the tree to get a shot

630
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: at him. That effort is there, so yeah, yeah, it

631
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: takes work. Yeah, it's worse. So you earn or I

632
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: mean you don't earn. But if it's an etiquette thing

633
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: or a fairness thing, a sportsman's thing, the sportsman's things

634
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: there with the Sudi grass not needing them to like

635
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: if you got all you you go to South Dakota,

636
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: right and you you go up and you get out

637
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: of your truck, you have some coffee, eat a couple

638
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: of doughnuts, walk down and do ditch row and start

639
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: spitting pheasants out every which way, and you're shooting with

640
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: your shotgun and you act proud of yourself on that.

641
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, if you're gonna measure effort, that is

642
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: nothing compared to what it takes the final it's hard, man.

643
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: It might be it's less than five percent. It's nothing. Nothing. No,

644
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: I think it's like an excuse. I think they know

645
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: what it takes to go up there and to like

646
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: get a limit. We've been at it four days and

647
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: had some great hunting, did not get a limit any day,

648
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 1: and we're like trying to figure out what it would

649
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: take to get a limit here and not get a limit.

650
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: But he's hearing hoots, always hearing hoots. I think maybe

651
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: people know what they have in store for him. I mean,

652
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: you're talking about what do we hike for elevation, gaining

653
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: loss in our bigger days? Yesterday? All right, that was,

654
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: but that was just days. But I think you keep

655
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: pointing out were talking about in rainforest. It's not like

656
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: hiking that trail. It's off you get landed on the beach.

657
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: We we'd go out and get landed on a beach

658
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: with a boat. Boat pulls up. Everybody jumps off the

659
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: bout and you're at tideline and you don't start hearing

660
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: hoots till you're six seven ft up, typically straight up.

661
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's really I mean, it's a physically very

662
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: challenging hunt. And there's no other hunt that I can

663
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: think of, and I've been trying to think of it.

664
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: Turkey hunt involves listen for gobbles, but there's no other

665
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: hunt that just comes down to listen ning locating the

666
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: source of the noise. But that's only half of it,

667
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: because once you find where you got it narrowed down,

668
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: you know what three trees in and neither. Trees that

669
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: are a couple hundred feet tall, several hundred feet tall sometimes,

670
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: Now that's why hundred tall before you get into optics

671
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: of city grass something. Let's say a quick break. All right,

672
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: welcome back. Uh, there's a couple we're gonna get back

673
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: into blue grouse on. We're gonna start talking about like

674
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: finding them by noise and finding them by sight. But

675
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: a couple of things came up. One I meant to

676
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: talk about this rout off the bat. Does anyone here

677
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: if we're talking, we never quit. We're talking about before

678
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: we started recording, we're talking about big Foot. No one

679
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: here believes in Bigfoot? Right? Do you believe in big Foot? No?

680
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 1: I believe that there's a some sort of archetype about

681
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: someone larger than us humans. You know, yeah, I agree

682
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: with that, Like a lot of cultures have a version. Yeah, yeah, Mike,

683
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 1: not tell us he for I'm I'm undecided. What do

684
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 1: you mean your own decided? Well, there was I saw,

685
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, with all the internet videos, there was an

686
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: Asian bear that walks on its hind legs for longer periods.

687
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: It can walk up to like, you know, like a

688
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: quarter mile or something. I can believe that. And it

689
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: looks like, does that mean I have the the well

690
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: the big foot thing, Like yeah, I don't know. No,

691
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: do you believe that there's a giant hominid? No? Actually no, yeah,

692
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: you're right. No, No that's good. Not that. Take't care.

693
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: So the other came up. We want to touch on that.

694
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: What's something else we're just about touching on. Oh, the

695
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: painting in the hotel room. It's like this painting from

696
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: it must be some prominent saddle around. It's a big

697
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: grizzly up on the on the mountains above Juno. He

698
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 1: looks like he's headed down into town to go drinking.

699
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: It's like he's coming. He just must have come. It's

700
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: a lot of snow. He just come out of hibernation.

701
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, he's like headed down to get drunk,

702
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: like what is going on? Or eat a few people

703
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't have, like a man he doesn't have. If

704
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: I was the painter and I wanted to make it

705
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: that he was headed down to to kill people, how

706
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: to have him look mean, I don't know. This guy's

707
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: mouth open. He's like he's like the version of the

708
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: lone wolf, you know, with the wolf in the village

709
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: below was going down to get drunk or something. Yeah, back,

710
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: so the trick. Now, there are parallels in this world

711
00:44:55,160 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: the sound thing. Okay, listening for bugle and elk up,

712
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: like you're you're listening to locate listening to a turkey,

713
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: you listen to locate, but in but in those things squirrels,

714
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm always listening for squirrels barking. I'm heading their direction. Yeah,

715
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: there's a big audio component too, Is that? Is that

716
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: the right word? Big audio component to a lot of honey,

717
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: auditory component to a lot of hunting, but nothing like

718
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: where you're trying to track down such a difficult sound.

719
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 1: And even when you get like what kind of happened?

720
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: Is that, you'll be out hunting your your hero hoot right,

721
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: and you'll argue about what direction it was, and you're

722
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: going that direction and then you won't hear anymore, and

723
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: then you'll crest like a slight ridge and it will

724
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: sound farther away than it did before you started walking

725
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: that way. But you know you're walking in the right

726
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: direction because it's still you still agree on the direction,

727
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: but just as less loud. Now then you walk in

728
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: the sound goes away. Then you walk a little more

729
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: into sounds louder than you've heard it at all. And

730
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: then you walk a little more and it's really faint.

731
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: You can't tell what's going on. And then you climb

732
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: up the next ridge and it's booming loud, at which

733
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: point you're like, oh, he's in this clump of trees,

734
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: and then it might take on the way. Though, I

735
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: gotta add, you're constantly, at least maybe today I wasn't,

736
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: but up until saying walk, yeah, as as which is

737
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: the wrong word, Oh that's right, Yeah, climbing, climb four

738
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: points of contact through the rainforest, steep rainforest, your hands.

739
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: The point I want to make is that you're constantly,

740
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,959
Speaker 1: like I said, up until today, kind of second guessing yourself. Yeah,

741
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 1: just like wondering like am I going the right way?

742
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: Did the bird I'm chasing quit hooting? Am I not

743
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: chasing a different bird? Are we on the wrong ridge?

744
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: Like it just goes on and on and on, it

745
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: never quits. Well, that was the cool things, like you

746
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: have three options. You here here, you know, you hear

747
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: who It's like, okay, he either right, he's either center,

748
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: he's left, and you have to just choose the direction

749
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: and then and then you're or there's the other one

750
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: where he's behind you. Well that's any thing too, is

751
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: that like the topography really changes like the sound of

752
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: the bird, you know, And that's why you have to

753
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: get up, because like if you're gonna get on the

754
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 1: beach and just like say, I'm gonna go hunt city

755
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: grouse or you know, blue grouse or whatever, and just

756
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: go up, you know, a hundred feet from the beach,

757
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get anything. I mean, you have to

758
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: go up to get above them in order to like

759
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: hear anything at all. And like and especially like this

760
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: one thing you know, but that I learned, you know,

761
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: in the short time I was here, is that like

762
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: if you're down by a stream or if you're inside

763
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: like you know, a sat or ravine. Because I've never

764
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: you know, I've never been elk hunting, so I don't

765
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: know how that bugle carries and like how that like

766
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: the way the hell better than the hoop, right, So

767
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: it's just like, okay, you got these like little thing.

768
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: But even then if you're down by a stream, like

769
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: the streams were crossing and the bulls bugling up on

770
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: the ridge above it, you probably won't hear him. That's

771
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: stream will drown it. Okay. So it's like, yeah, so

772
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: you have to get up and and and get into

773
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: essentially like where they're podcasting from, like on that same

774
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: kind of level, because that's what they do. They're picking

775
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: the big tree just to like you know, finding mate,

776
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: you know, and just like then that and that's where

777
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: we found him. Was all these big trees are not

778
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: like you know, on a bush, yeah, exactly. And it

779
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: might be that you hear him now and then like

780
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: we've had it where we heard him all day. We

781
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: other thing happened today where we heard a hoot chamber

782
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: our something. We heard her who We're like, well, let's

783
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: just going that way a little bit and see what

784
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: happens next. And we go down and and Corey, you

785
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: proposed to go up on a little knob to listen

786
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: from a knob, and I was like, well, no sense

787
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: and all being on the knob. So I was down

788
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: off the knob, but we're close enough for we can communicate.

789
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: I'm hearing that something going loud, loud and clear, and

790
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: you guys couldn't hear him. He was only away. I'm like,

791
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: there is they're like they kept giving me like they

792
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: don't they don't hear anything. I'm like, no, dude's right,

793
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: So we want to finding that bird, and that want

794
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: to be in the bird that we spent close to

795
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: two hours looking for it. I think it was after

796
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: we identified his clump of trees. Um, we spent an

797
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: hour and forty five minutes trying to find the burden

798
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: in the trees. Thrown off by this fact, we found

799
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: fifteen a total of found, not killed, but found a

800
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: total of something like fifteen blue grouse and spruce trees,

801
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: to the point where I was like, oh, they're in

802
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: spruce trees. And this when we couldn't find was an

803
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: a hamblock. So you get to an area and I

804
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 1: started in my head, I would get to an area,

805
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: clump of trees, you gotta low. He's like, he's got

806
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: to be one of these five six trees. I mean

807
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: we're talking about big gass old growth timber, right, he's

808
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: one of these five six trees. And I would usually

809
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: go like, where's the spruce, you know, and there will

810
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: always be a spruce in the some bitch of always

811
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: be in the spruce way up high, like how many

812
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: feet up are they hunter feet up? Yeah, I'd say

813
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 1: eighty foots. I mean the roots systems are twelve inch

814
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: round roots coming out of each tree on those big trees.

815
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: I mean they're old growth trees and they got the

816
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: birds sit on top of big limbs that usually if

817
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: you find a bird you can see from below. What

818
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 1: you usually see is beak in his tail, and if

819
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: you move a foot or two either way, you want

820
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: to see him. And it's a dense forest and so

821
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: you got all you got covered from other trees. So

822
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: it's not like there's just like the one lone giant towering,

823
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: you know thing that's like just like you know with

824
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: blue skies behind it. I mean it is, there's dense

825
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: frisbee size. Yeah yeah, yeah, No. Coming back to parallels

826
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: glass in these suckers office right out there with like

827
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: glassing up a bedacus here, but instead of looking a

828
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: mile away, you're looking fifty yards away, right. You know

829
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: what I noticed Barb is running eight and I was.

830
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: I know for a fact, if I ever come back

831
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: to grass, I'm gonna have some etes on me. I'm not.

832
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: You're not you gonna stick with the tents? What? What?

833
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: What do you what? Are you gonna get out having eats?

834
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: Just less shake it. I don't need, I don't need

835
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: thefation you have less shake and just I mean you're

836
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: looking yards for birds. It's actually making noise perched up there,

837
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: even moving while he's making noise, and they are tough

838
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: to glass. Although he had ten, what your binals are ten?

839
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: And your scalpe was listen this story. So today I

840
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: had ten binals in a seven power scope with my

841
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: double juice. Okay, I found a patch of the bird?

842
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: Did We spent an hour and forty five minutes trying

843
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: to locate I found a patch of that bird in

844
00:51:55,640 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: my tempore knockers couldn't see that patch in my seven

845
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: power scope. So I eventually had to look through my

846
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: binoculars and study the cones on a hemlock, the configuration

847
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: of cones on a hemlock, and then look through my

848
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: rifle scope and try to identify those hemlock cones. Go

849
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: back to my binoculars and study some more like, Okay,

850
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 1: there's a black patch of limb. Then I see those

851
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: four cones. There's just one little stick coming down and

852
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 1: he's there. Go back to my rifle scope and find

853
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: all that stuff never made would identify that. I was

854
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: seeing the wing patch on the bird. Wow, Corey was

855
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: holding a hat up to block the sun because I

856
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: was staring into the sun while doing this. So seventh

857
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: isn't good. Mm hmm. I'll have you know. I want

858
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 1: to on that bird. After two hours and a couple

859
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: shots and shots, I didn't have any binoculars. Had eyeball him. Yeah,

860
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: I gotta give my credit. He found our first bird.

861
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: We put thirty minutes into it. Mikey naked eyebald him.

862
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: He's doing like the hound circle around the tree. Once

863
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: we isolated, like, Okay, it's got to be it's his tree,

864
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: it's history because like that's the That's the cool thing

865
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: about it too, is it's like, okay, I think it's

866
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: these three cheeries in this general area because that that

867
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: sound really just kind of like kind of rolls around,

868
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: you know, and and so like and that's a nice

869
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,240
Speaker 1: thing doing it with two people because then that person

870
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: can go down and like hear it from different directions,

871
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: like you kind of triangulate, you know what. Okay, it's

872
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: gotta be this tree. It's the tree. So I'm looking

873
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: right in here and so and that's a nice that's

874
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: that's a cool thing about it. But I didn't. Yeah,

875
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: if I was gonna give one tip to a new

876
00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: city gross hunter, I would say, Dude, once you're in

877
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: the area where you're like, okay, I think this bird

878
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: is here, do some circles and get a hoot from

879
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: you know, all sides of where you think he is.

880
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: And I feel like after you do one circle, you're

881
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: about ninety plus percent sure of what tree he's in,

882
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: and that gives that much more confidence of where to

883
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: glass as opposed to just kind of hanging back and

884
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: looking up there and going, Okay, he's in one of

885
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: those four You're not glassing four trees. This sounds weird.

886
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: You know, people are gonna be like, what you're glassing

887
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: into four trees? What four trees is a lot more

888
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: country than you want to cover. And they're not like

889
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: flapping their wings and like you know, like displaying and

890
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: like strutting around on the limb. They're not like, you know,

891
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: right at the tip of the limb like all silhouette

892
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: and stuff. I mean, they're like close to the trunk

893
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: and they're just there the seam. They're always sitting at

894
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: the seam of a big gass limb in the trunk

895
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: and they're just like very very slightly but these are big.

896
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: I mean they're big birds, but not as big as

897
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: a pheasant, but close. But they're hunter feet in the

898
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: air in dense you know, uh, you know, the canopy

899
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: is just dead, and so it's just like you have

900
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: to isolate that tree and just like you have to

901
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: narrow down otherwise you're just looking at limbs and shadows

902
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: and moss. Like I saw it, like, I was like,

903
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: it's like Joanni. I was like, there's a bird sit

904
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: on top of that tree right there, and he's like, no,

905
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: that's just like part of the tree. I was like,

906
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's like you're serious. It's like that looks

907
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: like a's like, no, I agree with you, but that's

908
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: not a bird. No, no, no, this was like it well,

909
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 1: and then he described because I hadn't seen anything because

910
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: I'm filming you guys, and so I hadn't actually, you know,

911
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: seen a burden a tree, so I don't know what

912
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking for. And he's like, so he describes like

913
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: whenever he hoots, the tail just kind of bumps a

914
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: little bit. I was like Okay, well, then that's something

915
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: for me look for. Whenever I hear the sound, I'm

916
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: looking for this one particular emotion. And so I like,

917
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, well, I think he's in the

918
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: general area. And then as soon as you told me that,

919
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: it's like I saw the tail, you know, kind of float.

920
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: I was like, there he is. It's like boom. My

921
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: piece of advice. If I wasn'ting someone a soudy girls

922
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 1: hunting too, the whole sound thing like finding them, there's

923
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: nothing I can say. There's just you have to just

924
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: trial and error, um, or go with someone to watch

925
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: someone do it. It was helping to watch I couldn't believe.

926
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: Trust yourself, don't second guess yourself, trust yourself. If you

927
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: pick a direction, keep going that direction, trust yourself, and

928
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: know that he's probably always a little bit farther than

929
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 1: he thought he was in the beginning. That first day

930
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: we went out with barbed we hiked up and we

931
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: most have hit probably like I think we hit six

932
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 1: d feet and we heard her who and um. Based

933
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: on my experience from the year before, I'm like, if

934
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: you know who cares about that, like, you'll never find

935
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: that bird because he's just one of those like he's

936
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: one of those like thirty degree certainty birds, you know,

937
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: like one arm out here, in one arm out here,

938
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: you're trying to like draw the pie wedge, like a

939
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: pie wedge bigger than anybody would want to every eat

940
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: a piece of pie. So I'm like, well, clearly that's

941
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 1: not gonna matter. And Barbe says, no, we'll get under

942
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: his tree, and we did. You just start going. You

943
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: gotta be a hound dog man, just got it. And

944
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 1: what would mess me up the year before is I

945
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: could never get my head around the idea that you'd

946
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: hear a noise and get closer to it, but it

947
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: would get fainter. So I would think that I was

948
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: doing something wrong all the time, Like I couldn't accept

949
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: that the noise will get fainter as I get closer,

950
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it will get loud

951
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: again and all that. So I'd go and get painted. Well,

952
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: that must not be right, and I turn and go

953
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: the other direction, thinking that that I had misread it's direction.

954
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,439
Speaker 1: But the tip I was gonna give is these things

955
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: live on such a steep pitch core. You know pitches,

956
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: what are those pitch what are the hillsides? How would

957
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: you describe the hillsides? It's probably like five seven climbing standards,

958
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: which is maybe at some point we were fifty degrees.

959
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: The fifty degree pitch not a little plus maybe even

960
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: you're just grabbing a root, grabbing another root, grabbing a tree,

961
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: you know, and you're just sticking your feet in this moss.

962
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: And yeah, I tend to like wear you know, big

963
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: heavy angled boots and just kick my toes in. Yeah. Yeah, Look,

964
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: if you're climbing with crampo ons, most like kick my

965
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: tone and the moss now, and then just climb up

966
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: like that when my heels out, like in the mid air,

967
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: you know. But my my suggestion when you're looking at

968
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: when you get where you think you were, maybe you

969
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: don't know which trees, but you gotta my my strategy

970
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: became to pick a tree and work that treat and

971
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: rule the sun bitch out right, be like, I'll rule

972
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: that's like the hour and forty five minute bird. We

973
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: ruled out the three spruces, and then I started looking

974
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: at the hemlock, and that's why it took so long.

975
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: So but at one point I was like, this is

976
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: this is for the birds. Man, I was ready to go.

977
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: I proposed leaving. I proposed leaving, going looking for another hooter. Well,

978
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: like he said, Steve too, like when they shift the

979
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: direction that they are actually projecting the sound, it changes

980
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: where it's like when you throw your voice. You know,

981
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: So they got three dimensionals. Yeah, that's a good way

982
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: of putting it. You know, Yeah, it does because you'll

983
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: be sitting there and it'll like be like the birds

984
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: moving from tree to tree. But just because but then

985
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: when you do see one, he is always doing that.

986
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: He who's on one side of tree. You'll step over

987
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: in our limb face the other way and who in

988
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: our direction? And it sounds like you kept Garrett, you

989
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: kept proposing that there's two or three of them up

990
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: in the tree. That's what it sounded like, there's two.

991
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: That's why it's so important to do the circle around

992
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: like the base I keep getting what my suggestion is. Yeah,

993
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: but on top of yours, the going around, go up

994
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: hill and get eye level because the pitch is so

995
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: severe that you can do this, go up hill and

996
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: get eye level with the canopy. So you might wind

997
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: up being I remember today, I wasn't even close to

998
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: eye level with the top of a tree. I remember

999
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: ranging the tree trunk. I was thirty seven yards from

1000
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: the tree trunk. I'll pill behind it, looking into its canopy,

1001
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: kind of looking into its canopy. And then so you

1002
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: kind of read, like, what direction should I go uphill

1003
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 1: where it's not going to be obscured by a bunch

1004
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: of twigs and ship from another tree? And if you

1005
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,919
Speaker 1: can find a little gap and then climb up there

1006
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: and look into the tree rather than looking up. We

1007
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: found I think one bird from looking up. Yeah, Well,

1008
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: because you got all the branches below it, and they're

1009
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: at the top. I mean they're not halfway up, you know,

1010
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: I mean at least from what I saw. I mean

1011
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: they're they're so looking straight up. The tree is just

1012
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: like you know, it's garbage. I mean, you gotta like

1013
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: do concentric circles out find those little pockets. Yeah, which

1014
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: brings me to to the kind of a final not

1015
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: not the final thing, but you know an important part

1016
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: of this. You go up, up, up, and you're getting

1017
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: away from the trunk tree looking in when you find it,

1018
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:07,959
Speaker 1: you invariably wind up in tricky shooting situations, you are

1019
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: not gonna shoot a blue grouse by lying down prone

1020
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: in the angle. The shooting angles are usually much too

1021
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: severe to shoot over your knee. You're shooting up. I

1022
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: shot one lying down on my back. You know. It's

1023
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: like it's like your contortion is trying to get in

1024
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: the shooting position on him. But it's the most rewarding

1025
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: shooting I've ever been involved in. It's not like it's

1026
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: in its own way. I would say it's as difficult

1027
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: as wing shooting. Oh definitely. It's very demanding. Especially you're

1028
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: not gonna blow the breasts out of him. If you're

1029
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: trying to hit him in the neck and head. It's

1030
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: very demanding. It requires. Yeah, it's a great attention to

1031
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: the heads, you know, so you head shooting squirrels not

1032
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: easy to do. I love hunting blue grouse. I don't

1033
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: think it's gonna catch on. Yeah, that's tough man, which

1034
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: is part of the peel too. Doesn't get sad and

1035
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: it's just not I mean, you gotta come like like

1036
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: dudes aren't dudes from down Dude from Lord forty eight

1037
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: aren't gonna when they do their big Alask trip if

1038
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: they're up here spring bear hunting, they just tack onto

1039
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: you because no one's gonna be like clearing it up

1040
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 1: with your wife and shipped to like come up to

1041
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: hunt blue grouse, getting time off work, you know, buying

1042
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: a bunch of garbage on Lyon for hunting gear and

1043
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: then come up and shoot birds. I don't know why,

1044
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: but if I wasntna last after their first time, if

1045
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: I was a sheep hunter experience, yeah, then they'll do it.

1046
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, you do this all spring and

1047
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how whatever you'd have to do for

1048
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: June and July to retain that shape. But if you

1049
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Speaker 1: did this all studio cross season, you would be ready

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01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: to smoke the brooks range and look for dolls. So

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01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: this is so this is the the the the primer,

1052
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: the your your work out getting ready for that. So

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01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: this is a good Like this is CrossFit, Yeah, this

1054
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: is this is your you know, your rainforest cross fit

1055
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 1: prior to it's better CrossFit because like my brother criticized

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01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: the CrossFit all texts crossfits the only thing it does

1057
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: it makes you good a CrossFit. What I'm saying, yeah,

1058
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: like we're I'm gonna go hunt with someone, like if

1059
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take someone on a hunting trip, I usually

1060
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 1: tell him, like you're sitting there thinking about what's sleeping

1061
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: bag you need, right, what gun you're gonna bring, whether

1062
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: you got to this kind of scope or that kind

1063
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: of scope. Is like, here's the thing that's gonna that's

1064
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: gonna make your hunt. Here's the thing that's gonna make

1065
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: it that you're happy and successful or miserable not successful,

1066
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: Your ability to your ability to climb hills, whether or

1067
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: not your feet are gonna hold up. Yes, I mean,

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01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 1: well this is a good pise. It's like the only

1069
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: thing if you're gonna go on a mountain hunt, you're

1070
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: going on a sheep hunt, elk hunt, mule to your hunt.

1071
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: All the garb would you think you need to worry about,

1072
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 1: Like who do I want this kind of pants or

1073
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: that kind of pants? That is largely bullshit. It's like,

1074
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: can you walk a long ways up and down hills

1075
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: and have your feet stay in good shape and that

1076
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 1: you can keep doing that day after day after day

1077
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: after day on your face with a smile on your face,

1078
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: because the minute you don't want to go to that

1079
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: next ridge, you're done. All right, everyone, I know you're

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01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: enjoying the Meat Eater podcast and you're especially enjoying it

1081
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: because it's free, and to keep it that way, we

1082
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: got to take a quick break to thank our sponsors.

1083
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: The minute you start finding reasons to not go to

1084
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: that next ridge, it's over for you. I was kind

1085
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: of curious, what do you guys think about whenever you're

1086
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: looking at just straight up, like, what is it? What

1087
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: you're talking about? These fifties degrees? Okay, I gotta get

1088
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: up there. Whenever you're just you're having to grind to

1089
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: get up to the top. What do you guys think

1090
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: about whenever you're doing that and it's just your legs

1091
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: are screaming. I don't know if your legs are screaming

1092
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: and stuff like physically what you're going through, But what

1093
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 1: what's going through y'all's mind in those situations to get

1094
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: you to the top of that. Me lying there, dying

1095
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: on my deathbed as an old man, Yeah, that keeps

1096
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,439
Speaker 1: you grind. Yeah, because I always think about this when

1097
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm dying. Okay, I will not be like man, I

1098
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: sug glad I didn't climb that hill. This is no way. Yeah,

1099
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: there's no way. Today we got up on a ridge.

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01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: Remember we're on the ridge top yeah, okay, and there

1101
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: was a hooter down below. I'm like, man, I don't

1102
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: want to go the ridge top because we're up on

1103
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: the rooftop. Then we have to go down there to

1104
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 1: kill him or try to kill him, and then climb

1105
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: back up the bridgetop. Then I'm like, why in the

1106
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 1: world are you thinking this way? Go down there and

1107
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: climb back up, because it's I mean, there's a mental

1108
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: component of day four for Yeah. I mean I have

1109
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 1: a lot of curiosity too. I'm always curious about stuff,

1110
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: like they're I was gonna find something weird laying on

1111
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: the ground or I don't know, right, there's a rewarded,

1112
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's like I'm always like, oh, you know,

1113
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: maybe we'll find something weird laying there, or he's all

1114
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: benched out, you know, there there are bench as. It

1115
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: wasn't inconsistent. I mean it's something you're just like, yeah,

1116
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: maybe maybe like two bucks, maybe two bucks got tangled

1117
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: up and died with their antlers locked. Yeah, and also

1118
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stumble across that, or I'll find a dead

1119
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: guys did actually get to the treasure. I always look

1120
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 1: in the holes under the trees and thinking there's something

1121
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 1: in there. I was sparked to something to jump out.

1122
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 1: Wolverines coming at you. Yeah, so there's that. There's like

1123
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 1: do I will I ever, that's what you're thinking of,

1124
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: Like I need to get to the next bitch so

1125
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: I can look underneath that tree from I'm always like,

1126
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 1: where's barb right now? Way out there? I think about this.

1127
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 1: There's a direct correlation. There's an undeniable direct correlation between

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01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: how much weird ship you see in the woods and

1129
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: how much time you spend in the woods. M sure

1130
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Guy spends a lot of

1131
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: time in the woods, has a lot of things, like

1132
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 1: stories that begin with I'll tell you what you know

1133
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: what I mean like that, or he's got sh it

1134
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 1: on his shelves. He's like you see that. You know

1135
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 1: you learned a lot about porcupines. Yeah, well about you

1136
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: a lot, Like what do you what's going on in

1137
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: your head? Whenever? It's just like it's it's flipp in

1138
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: front of flip in front of foot to get to

1139
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,919
Speaker 1: the top the grind, the grind in the grind, Yeah,

1140
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: depend depends on how long the grind is. But just going,

1141
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: I mean like I try to like to go just

1142
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: in my head and like try to push myself to

1143
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: the plateau without stopping like that. That's it. There's nothing

1144
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 1: else in that that time that that if it's the longer,

1145
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: if it's a longer like we're talking trying to go

1146
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: two thousand feet, same consistency now on the pitch, then

1147
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: you can get in more of a rhythm. But this

1148
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 1: was kind of like steep bench. Listen, stop, that's the

1149
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: point you raised because Core used to be a competitive

1150
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 1: like a professional snowboarder, and you you gotta walk up

1151
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 1: a lot of those hills. Yeah, but you're, like you

1152
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 1: said today, like but doing that every step is the same. Yeah. Yeah,

1153
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: it's just like the same step. It's like the same

1154
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 1: step over and over again. Goes but here every step

1155
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: is different. Okay, yeah, every step you're twisting an ankle,

1156
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: different degrees every step. You know, we're thinking or of

1157
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 1: turknees and holes that were covered by you know, moss stuff,

1158
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 1: and every step, every step is different. Crawling over logs,

1159
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 1: under logs, trees, grabbing a dead tree, knocking over the

1160
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 1: whole tree. You know, like out of the sound, I

1161
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 1: got a different But I think to your question is

1162
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: just so you guys are all. I think what you're

1163
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: trying to ask is really like what is like there's

1164
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: a motivating kind of a factor, not just like what

1165
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 1: happens in your head, but like you're in you're in

1166
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,919
Speaker 1: the grind, and like what do you say to yourself

1167
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, I'm fired up to get to

1168
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: the top. Just what I just said. No, I know

1169
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: you answered it right. I just just wanted to make

1170
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 1: do you want to be the kind of guy that

1171
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: goes up the hill or not? No, No, you're still

1172
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:51,600
Speaker 1: gonna get to the top. You're still gonna get to

1173
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: the top. But that time before you get up there,

1174
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: I mean your brain is you know, what are you

1175
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: thinking about your taxes? Or you oh think about like that?

1176
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 1: Like what yeah, like what is going on in your

1177
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: mind during that that that grind and trying to Blue

1178
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: Rose the whole time? The hell are you thinking about?

1179
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 1: I started playing? So you answered it right the first time.

1180
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: You said. No, he's not asking that. He's not saying

1181
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: what motivates you. He's wondering what the star point? There

1182
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 1: might be some pain involved, well the pain you're thinking

1183
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 1: about stuff besides what we're doing while we're out there,

1184
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: whenever I'm climbing, whenever we're going straight up and like

1185
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 1: we have to get up there, and it's like we're

1186
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: not like okay, we hear the sound. We gotta go

1187
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 1: up right and it hurts and it's painful and stuff,

1188
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: and so there's nothing going no mash you what should

1189
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: call my mom or often, well, your mind doesn't wander

1190
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: whenever you're like in that, whenever you do that, just

1191
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: mean this question packing meat or something like that, it does.

1192
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: But I'll doing this. I'm just hoping to find right,

1193
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 1: he's just getting out there, yeah, like a drudgery. Like

1194
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: if you're just like, oh yeah, we got a nine

1195
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 1: a mile walk, we're all done. It's like just hiking out.

1196
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm thinking about crazy ship man. Right, that's

1197
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. That's that was a question. And

1198
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 1: I'm trying to learn how to think about something like

1199
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be like, because you know, I write

1200
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: a lot, right, so I'll be like, why don't I

1201
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 1: take this time and actually write something in my head

1202
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 1: word for word for word, memorize it. And then I

1203
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: got home, I said to type out what I wrote

1204
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,640
Speaker 1: in my head. Your body is gonna I can't do

1205
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 1: that because then I'd be like, man, I should really

1206
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,799
Speaker 1: call my mom. Or often I'm like, oh, I'm supposed

1207
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:31,600
Speaker 1: to be writing my article, but then I can't, you know.

1208
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 1: But I mean I'm onne of some other thing, like man,

1209
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 1: I gotta remember that, you know, like I gets some

1210
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: new finger paint for my kids. You know it's uncontrolled.

1211
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: But Blue Rail's hunting, I'm thinking, Mike, I am constantly

1212
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 1: training for the next hunt. Every time I get into

1213
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: that position where it's the grind and it heard to

1214
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 1: my legs or like please stop, please stop, and I'm like,

1215
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: shut up, legs, And in ahead, I think the six

1216
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,759
Speaker 1: point bull that I've been looking for for twenty years

1217
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 1: is at the top of the next bench. Who does

1218
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: the top six um killed a lot of cows, calculate machine.

1219
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: But no, I'm just like constantly thinking, like this is

1220
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 1: good for me. That's how I make it good for me,

1221
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 1: and so I like enjoy it because I think in

1222
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 1: this fall, this higher that I'm doing right now next

1223
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,759
Speaker 1: fall is gonna help me hopefully be successful in whatever.

1224
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 1: But doesn't that wind up being real circular, because yeah,

1225
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 1: of course, because yeah it's helpful, right now, do I mean,

1226
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,759
Speaker 1: I'm helping myself right now in order to help myself

1227
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 1: in the future. It's kind of people who like, you

1228
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 1: get dumped by a girl and people like, yeah, it'll

1229
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: only make you stronger. It's like, well, for next time

1230
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:52,520
Speaker 1: I get dumped, I'm I'm with you, guys. Yeah, Absolutely's

1231
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 1: like this is like this is gonna pay off, Like

1232
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 1: this is the effort involved is you know, I'm not

1233
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 1: gonna find a dead guy or two. Think Mike, because

1234
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,719
Speaker 1: Michael Ridge was asking of like how like you make

1235
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: it okay in your head to like deal with the

1236
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: pain of like keep keep pushing, don't take a break

1237
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,640
Speaker 1: right now, keep pushing. Yeah, there's a hooter at the

1238
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: end of the road, but you said it. You're like,

1239
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: when I'm on my deathbed I'm dying, I would be like,

1240
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, but you guys talking about motivations, like

1241
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: you got that motivation to get up there, like where

1242
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: does your mind go? And this I may be off

1243
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: off here, but when I'm like I'm maxed out, I'm thinking, man,

1244
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: I need to stop, and I know I need to go,

1245
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna keep going. I actually go to really

1246
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 1: calm water, like sitting on a lake with a beer

1247
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: and that's where my mind is. Okay, So yeah, that's

1248
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 1: not be worried about whether the fishure button. I'd be like,

1249
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: I've better walked down the beach. I mean, because it's

1250
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: about keeping your heart, you know, keeping your heart, Oh,

1251
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 1: I got you know what I'm saying, Like your body

1252
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: is gonna do I mean, you're sucking wind, your legs

1253
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 1: are screaming to keep that heart rate down. So you

1254
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 1: go to a place of you can climb like you

1255
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: do technical climbing. Yeah, like ice climbing, technical clim and

1256
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 1: it's all about that, Like your body's maxing out, but

1257
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 1: you can go way beyond as long as you keep

1258
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 1: your your heart right down. It's being able to separate

1259
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: your mind from all the physical pan of your feeling.

1260
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: Right Like you guys say, you gotta stay focused. Your

1261
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 1: motivation is going to take you there, but to get there,

1262
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: you know, and even further, you know you're gonna get there.

1263
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 1: You're gonna get there. I mean, there's no doubt that

1264
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 1: you're going to the top of place. But it's just

1265
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 1: like you know, it's just dealing with that like internal

1266
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 1: turmoil at least for me, And I was just like,

1267
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 1: go to fucking hurts, go to that lake. Yeah. Yeah,

1268
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:41,839
Speaker 1: Like if I want to call myself um all sometimes

1269
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 1: just focused on breathing in and breathing out. Or I'll

1270
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 1: picture a really old dog on a really hot day

1271
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: down south on a porch. That will change your Yeah,

1272
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 1: that would change your and that makes me feel sleepy.

1273
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 1: But your body is still like and sue for supermode

1274
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 1: and you just carry a picture of yourself taking a nap.

1275
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 1: Just look at that. Well that's what a beer on

1276
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 1: the beach is pretty much. You know. I earlier mention

1277
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 1: getting dump How many you guys did all you guys

1278
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 1: get dump way ass hard in your twenties? Yeah, funnies, No, no,

1279
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 1: really dumping down the dumping. I got married, Oh yeah,

1280
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 1: I got married young because I was observing that long ago.

1281
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 1: How like, you get dumped in your twenties by someone

1282
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 1: for me, with someone named Maris, and it killed something

1283
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 1: in me that never grew back. He didn't need that anyway,

1284
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 1: So that you know what I'm saying. I'll saying about

1285
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: when people say, oh, yeah, I only make stronger, It's

1286
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 1: like that made me stronger. It killed something in me

1287
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 1: that never grew back, something agree with you. But that

1288
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: happened to me. I feel like when I was like,

1289
01:15:55,920 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 1: it was like, yeah, I had an exhaustible supply of

1290
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 1: disappointment that was killed. It was replaced by awareness of that.

1291
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 1: And that's for that's and I've been trying to fill

1292
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: that spot in me with It's the heart meat. That's

1293
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 1: what the Sudi Groundse call mimics. It's a yeah, it's relationships,

1294
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 1: isn't The city grouns is just like, hey, babes, I

1295
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 1: kept the top of the hill while we were hunting studies.

1296
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 1: I kept trying think what's the fun part and a

1297
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,600
Speaker 1: very stided that thought all the fun part shooting them,

1298
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 1: you know, like picking your shot. Then I thought the

1299
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: fun part, you know, like bounced around, like what's the

1300
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 1: fun part, the fun part, the funnest part. Like if

1301
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,640
Speaker 1: you could make a drug, if you could, you know,

1302
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 1: go to Bristol Myron and make it up a little No,

1303
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 1: they wouldn't really that kind of drugs. Who does that

1304
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: kind of Who's like? Who makes like drug? Drugs? Fighting?

1305
01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 1: If I was gonna go to fires and I'm like,

1306
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 1: I want to drug to me makes me feel like

1307
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 1: X but not X to see But I mean like why,

1308
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:06,719
Speaker 1: I want to drive me to feel like why? Why

1309
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 1: would be the moment when you think I will find

1310
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: this bird's cluster of trees? Yeah, it's that. For me,

1311
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, this is the tree. Let's let's

1312
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 1: figure out what what branches on. Yeah, it's like, okay,

1313
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 1: that was the happy part. We isolated it. That was

1314
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:27,679
Speaker 1: the fun part. The fun part was once we figured

1315
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: out what tree it was and we started doing the

1316
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 1: circles and like looking around and stuff. That I enjoyed

1317
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 1: that because it was you know, it was a detective work.

1318
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 1: Now you're wrong. It's when you it's when you realize, Yeah,

1319
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: any was your fun part, Like if you could get

1320
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 1: any in capsule form, buck a pill somewhere right in there.

1321
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the cluster of trees or

1322
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 1: isolating the tree, but right in that moment where you're like,

1323
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 1: you know you're underneath him, but you haven't found him.

1324
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,680
Speaker 1: So that's the funniest part you just said it was,

1325
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 1: there's the same thing. For you. It's one I know

1326
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna find the cluster trees. Oh so you're

1327
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 1: still a couple of hundred yards out, but you're like

1328
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 1: this something's gonna get found. It like gets loud. We

1329
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 1: talked about this earlier today about how now we've got

1330
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,839
Speaker 1: seven or eight days of city across hunting under our belts,

1331
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 1: and now as you hike, climb, trudge towards the bird,

1332
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 1: and there's a there's a long time where it's so faint.

1333
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 1: It's the you have to stop to hear the sound.

1334
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 1: You have to stop every now and then and go, okay,

1335
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 1: there's my straight right left. You keep going, You keep going,

1336
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 1: and then the next time you stop, it'scott just a

1337
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 1: little bit more of a and you're like, okay, we're

1338
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 1: kind of bearing in that. You keep walking, You keep walking,

1339
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, there's a point where

1340
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 1: you hear the bird over the sound that you're making,

1341
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 1: whether it's your your boots or scratching through the brush

1342
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 1: or whatever. And at that point now it's like, okay,

1343
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 1: we're in that. We're probably within two yards, and you're

1344
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 1: probably gonna we're gonna find this tree, we're gonna finds,

1345
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 1: we're gonna find his cluster. When the needle starts doing

1346
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: this instead of like doing this, it goes like that.

1347
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 1: But I felt like last year all that honey, we did.

1348
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 1: We didn't have that dialed in only one time. One time. Yeah,

1349
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: but I didn't know what was happening. And yeah, what

1350
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 1: was the bird that was right off? Like when we

1351
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 1: hiked up the trail got to the snow and then

1352
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 1: he was off. That was Lost Bird. We were under

1353
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 1: Lost Bird Street, we were in his cluster. Yeah, we

1354
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 1: could go back, and I've played that back a hundred times.

1355
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 1: He's a year older. I know right where he is.

1356
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: I got I got him, I gotta weight, I got

1357
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: a GPS way point on him. Yeah, he's looking back,

1358
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,759
Speaker 1: and I was like that lost Bird. I not realized.

1359
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 1: After multiple visits to Lost Birds area, I now know

1360
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 1: that we were actually standing beneath the Lost Birds tree,

1361
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 1: walking in circles, because I thought it would be that

1362
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 1: you look in the tree and there he is, right

1363
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,759
Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh, no, he's not that tree. Almost

1364
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 1: be insane. And then we just start going down these

1365
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: bridges and trying to like go down these little cliffs

1366
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 1: and trying to get the angles. Like no, I realized, yeah,

1367
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 1: we're standing and even if someone tells you no, you're

1368
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: gonna have to glass up into the trees. It's the

1369
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 1: classic story of like the first time Cruiser Hunter when

1370
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 1: like our buddy Jayscon says, yeah, going to that ridge

1371
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 1: and that ridge acrossing you going glass it And you

1372
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 1: come back twenty minutes later and you're like, yeah, man,

1373
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 1: glass it. He's like, no, no, you didn't glass it

1374
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 1: because you picked up your bloculars, didn't put him on

1375
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 1: a tripod, looked over the hill and then left. And

1376
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 1: it's the same thing here. Like first thing Barb does

1377
01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 1: pretty much does the circle, narrows down the tree, and

1378
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,679
Speaker 1: then lays down, takes off her backpacks, that's her rifle down,

1379
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 1: bust out of binoculars because she's not gonna eat him

1380
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 1: until then, and then lays down and gets comfortable and

1381
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: starts glassing straight up in the air. I remember Chris

1382
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: Denham uh the poblish your Western Hunter and Elcounter magazine.

1383
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:23,600
Speaker 1: I was talking to him about hunting couis deer and

1384
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: I said something him along the lines of how long

1385
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 1: do you sit in no spot? You know, how how

1386
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 1: long do you glass one area? And I remember him

1387
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 1: saying sometimes all day, I mean like without moving, hes

1388
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 1: like without moving I was sitting once all day. I

1389
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 1: didn't really, I couldn't even really comprehend what he was

1390
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 1: talking about. Now I understand what he's talking about, but yeah,

1391
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 1: what I made that original called barb she said. I'll

1392
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 1: usually look for the bird for an hour. If I

1393
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 1: can't find it, I'll sometimes move on and I'm like, yeah,

1394
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 1: you know, and then one thing after another, all right, yeah,

1395
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 1: honest closing thoughts, go if you if you're up here

1396
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, cruise ships, bring bear hunt whatever, take

1397
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 1: a couple of days and go city gross hunt. It's

1398
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 1: a blast. That's it. That's the best you can do.

1399
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 1: That's my closing thoughts. Yeah, I'm trying to sell I mean, Derek,

1400
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: I would say in response to the fun moment, that

1401
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 1: scenery like just oh that's touching. Well, that's that's that's

1402
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 1: the kind of thing I wanted to get out of,

1403
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 1: you know, when I break out of that lakeside, you know,

1404
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 1: trying to calm my heart. Right, you look around here

1405
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 1: and it's just I mean that moss and like the light.

1406
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 1: I mean it's beautiful. Whales, yeah, whales, and the way

1407
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 1: when you hit one with it, hit a grouse with

1408
01:22:55,400 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 1: twenty two ft No, no, not that the feathers. Oh yeah,

1409
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 1: when the sun's right, and dozens of feathers are filing, Yeah,

1410
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 1: falling from a hundred feet up in a tree, and

1411
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 1: it's just like they're it's just as nice. Yeah, it's

1412
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 1: a nice juxtaposition. There's like death and life in the affirmation.

1413
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 1: You know. I had a thought today that when I

1414
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 1: didn't feel bad shooting the burden, but I felt bad

1415
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: as he fell out eight feet up and he hit

1416
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: the ground so hard. But no, he didn't do any

1417
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,600
Speaker 1: of that. It was one of those where there was

1418
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 1: like it wasn't a single limb, so he's like gaining speed.

1419
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 1: He was almost hitting terminal velocity, you know, and I

1420
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 1: couldn't even see where he landed. But I don't know.

1421
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 1: It's that juxtaposition of like I don't feel bad killing you,

1422
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 1: but after you're dead, I don't want you to slam

1423
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 1: the ground from a hundred feet up. I feel bad

1424
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: shooting a lot of stuff, particularly bears. Like whenever I

1425
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 1: shoot a bear, I feel pretty bad. Not that I

1426
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:05,679
Speaker 1: stopped doing it, but um man, just not a trace

1427
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 1: with blue grouse. I think because you're shooting primary, you

1428
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 1: know your goal. You're shooting males. You know, females are

1429
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 1: gonna get bread you're shooting males and then something like that.

1430
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 1: You think, like every year seventy five percent of the

1431
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 1: birds alive or dime. A four year old blue grouse

1432
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 1: is ancient. I don't feel bad shooting him. Yeah, it's

1433
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 1: like they're they're like they have like pretty high for

1434
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 1: country is super high mortality. You know, they're just dying

1435
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 1: all over damn place and that just you know what

1436
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 1: I mean. It's like if I didn't get him something,

1437
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Song's gonna get them now Bears.

1438
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 1: I killed a bear one time. They with the tooth

1439
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 1: dental analysis was seventeen years old. I was in my

1440
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 1: early monies. Well he's about die old age anyways. Yeah,

1441
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 1: but I'm saying I can't be like, oh, if I

1442
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 1: didn't kill you something, you know what I mean, Like

1443
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 1: if you killed blue gross like you blue gus So's

1444
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 1: gonna kill them anyway. Now bear, you might shoot him

1445
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 1: and I can't say that you might live in our

1446
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:19,679
Speaker 1: ten years. I don't know what is the blue gross

1447
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: as a predator or what predator feeds off the blue grass.

1448
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 1: Pine Martins kill a lot of them. Weasels, long tailed weasels.

1449
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 1: Ermine's kill a lot of them. Rafters kill them, and

1450
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 1: then you got all the nest predators because they nest

1451
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 1: on the ground. Even pine squirrels will steal the eggs.

1452
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 1: We found a big gass egg today way up the hill,

1453
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 1: did you guys really some yeah, seabird like a like

1454
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 1: a like a ducker, the duck hagers big robbin's robin

1455
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 1: egg blue but the size of a chicken egg way

1456
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 1: up in the woods, like in the nest. Something carried

1457
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 1: it up there. Look okay, oh you know what happened

1458
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 1: there day? Man? We had a robin building nest maybe

1459
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 1: weight big their egg and be like that, yeah, like

1460
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 1: a you know a quarter. Uh. Robin built a nest

1461
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 1: up in my out the out our kitchen window, and

1462
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 1: me and my boy were out in the yard, and uh,

1463
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 1: I see the nest fell out the tree. So I'm like, oh, Jimmy,

1464
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 1: look you know the nest fell out of the tree.

1465
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 1: And walk over. We're looking at the nest, and I

1466
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 1: realized all that the babies had gotten pretty developed inside

1467
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 1: the egg and all the eggs. When the nest fell

1468
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 1: the tree, all the eggs broke. So he's four. He

1469
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: didn't like that a bit. Little baby birds laying every

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01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 1: which way. He talked about that for a few days,

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01:26:52,160 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 1: concluding dos Mike Hunt dot com. Um, I enjoyed the

1472
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 1: the I enjoyed the hunt. It was, you know, another

1473
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 1: new experience. And then in an adventurer and it was

1474
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 1: it was awesome, and you know it was it was

1475
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 1: a it was an adventure. I liked it. I liked

1476
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 1: it a lot. And what I think about whenever I'm

1477
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 1: grinding and going to the top as I get a songs,

1478
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 1: it just keeps going over and over and over, and

1479
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 1: for the past few days has been Fleetwood Mac and

1480
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 1: I can't get which which one? Can't get it up? No,

1481
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 1: I can't get out of my head, No, out of

1482
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 1: my personal head. Well Fleetwood Mac. If it's silver springs,

1483
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm with you there, man. Yeah, I don't know why.

1484
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 1: It's silver springs in your head. Man, that's a good tune.

1485
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 1: It's like, uh, lady singing to a man and the

1486
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:48,639
Speaker 1: man she loved the man, the man didn't love her.

1487
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 1: And she says she's telling them that, you know, my

1488
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 1: voice is gonna haunt you for the rest of your life.

1489
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: So like these guys in there twenties, Yeah, fun time,

1490
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 1: you know her voice is gonna follow him down and

1491
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 1: haunt him. Um Corey concluding thoughts. Closing thoughts, How's one

1492
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 1: of those hunts where I think anyone could maybe not anyone,

1493
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 1: but those who want to pursue soudi grouse can you

1494
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 1: probably have quite a few encounters if you gave it,

1495
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 1: you're all. You know, it's one of those where you're

1496
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 1: probably gonna have a good opportunity to see what you're chasing.

1497
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 1: And you know, especially if you if you've got a

1498
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 1: pair of ears on, you'd like to walk around the woods.

1499
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 1: It's perfect hunt for you. Bring your kid out. You

1500
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 1: can't be a little kid though. My kid couldn't climb mean,

1501
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 1: my five ye old, he's five now, he if you

1502
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 1: made a goal to find one a day, if you're like,

1503
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: I could take my boy out and be like, our

1504
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 1: goal is to find one and we're gonna bring a

1505
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 1: ton of snacks and looking a lot of holes under

1506
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 1: trees and have a general good time and maybe you know,

1507
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 1: but yeah, you're not gonna have it downhill though. Man,

1508
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 1: it's well, I'd wind up carrying it. I'd wind up

1509
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 1: carrying it. Yeah, it's hard. You can't really carry someone

1510
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 1: not gonna carry anyone down that. Yeah, I got he's

1511
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 1: gonna get a little older. Is that your concluding thought? Yeah?

1512
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 1: And then uh yeah, besides this Devil's Club. You know

1513
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 1: what my comcluding thought already planned out my concluding thought,

1514
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:24,679
Speaker 1: which is freaking Devil's Club. Yeah. God, that stuff it's terrible.

1515
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 1: There wasn't too much. There was a little bit. There

1516
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 1: was more in the Alaska Range whenever we were there

1517
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 1: with Rourke that we were going through that was thick.

1518
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 1: But man, that stuff is just it's terrible. I like

1519
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 1: it better than poison oak. Absolutely a lot better than

1520
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 1: poison oak for two reasons. One, where you get it

1521
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:47,599
Speaker 1: is where you get it right. It doesn't spread, there's

1522
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:51,799
Speaker 1: no surprises, and it doesn't get on your packer unless

1523
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 1: I mean unless you're like, unless you pee different than

1524
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 1: I do, because it doesn't get on your packers. So

1525
01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 1: it's like, when you come out of the wood, you're like,

1526
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:02,680
Speaker 1: I have Devil's Club in these places, right, it's not

1527
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 1: like poison Like a week later it's like, oh no,

1528
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:08,600
Speaker 1: I have Devil's Club. You know. It's like, did I

1529
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 1: really touch myself there while that was going on? You

1530
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Um, did you grab, did you?

1531
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you did. You talked about it,

1532
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 1: but like you know, you're grabbing for vines and stuff

1533
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 1: when you're going up and you grab a line of

1534
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 1: spikes to put yourself up, and just the main the

1535
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 1: main I got bit slapped where I was. I moved

1536
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 1: one out of the way with my foot, you know,

1537
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 1: bent it out of the oil of my foot, and

1538
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 1: it slipped from out of my toe and came up

1539
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 1: and just door nailed me. So that like my most

1540
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 1: Devil's Club action is from that one thing. But also

1541
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 1: one time I caught one on the leg and thought

1542
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 1: that my pants, but that didn't happen. I thought my

1543
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 1: pants would stop it, but I got like a thigh

1544
01:30:54,920 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 1: full of Devil's Club. Do you my packers clean? I

1545
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 1: bring this up only because Yanni's Yanni permanently, permanently deformed

1546
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 1: his packer with poison outen. He told me it was

1547
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 1: so bad that if he was to meet I mean,

1548
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 1: he's happily married, stay married rest his life, but if

1549
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 1: he was not, somehow, in a hypothetical situation, was not

1550
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 1: and had to meet a new gal. The new gal

1551
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 1: would wonder what was going on? Right exactly it was

1552
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:52,120
Speaker 1: only one way to etch it. Um all right, Yeah,

1553
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 1: I guess Michael cleaning thought was Yanni's uh little thing either. Um,

1554
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:02,240
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