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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and Matt it's time to do the fantasy football focus here.

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Speaker 2: Earlier in the week because I was completely drained forgot

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Speaker 2: to go over the streaming defenses.

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Speaker 3: Let's do this because it's an interesting week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it is. You get a lot of good teams

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Speaker 2: playing good teams, bad teams playing bad teams, both winless.

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Speaker 2: Are all four winless teams play each other this week?

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Speaker 3: I know it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeahs again. All right, so you got tonight's game, The

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Speaker 2: Lions are at the Packers. Interested in streaming either of

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Speaker 2: those defenses.

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Speaker 3: Not particularly. I mean, there's a lot of injuries. Thursday

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Speaker 3: nights are weird.

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Speaker 2: They're usually lower scoring, it's division scoring.

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Speaker 3: I think both defense are playing pretty well. I was

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Speaker 3: really impressed with the Lions last week, but I'd be

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Speaker 3: shocked the feither would make my top twelve.

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Speaker 2: Both offensive lines are banged up, though, I know so.

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Speaker 3: I mean, some of the injuries may work in your favor,

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Speaker 3: you know, But I also think Jones and Montgomery and

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Speaker 3: Watson are playing, so that's not perfect.

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Speaker 2: Uh. The game that is in London at nine thirty am.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget to set your lineups, Matt. The Falcons are

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Speaker 2: at the Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: I don't love either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to start either.

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Speaker 3: To love how the jagsd's been playing. They don't make

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Speaker 3: any big plays, they have any sacks.

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Speaker 2: Last week again, Falcons have an NFL low three sacks

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Speaker 2: once again. I know, once again below Houston. They just

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Speaker 2: can't find anybody to get the quarterback on that. Now.

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Speaker 3: I think they're both knows.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. One o'clock the Dolphins are

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Speaker 2: at the Bills, and as we know, the Bills defense

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Speaker 2: is one that everybody.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's one of the high score ones.

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Speaker 2: It's what it's an owned defense. Yeah, a lot of

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Speaker 2: people probably also own the Dolphins defense thinking it was

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Speaker 2: going to be pretty good. They're both knows for me,

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Speaker 2: though I don't study one of them.

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Speaker 3: Miss games by far the highest over under total. You

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Speaker 3: know there's gonna be points. I mean, you have to

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Speaker 3: be a blizzard or something going.

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Speaker 2: On, and it's not gonna happen in you know, September

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Speaker 2: October for whatever this whatever October first is, Uh, you

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Speaker 2: got the getting much here?

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Speaker 3: If we're not getting very far?

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Speaker 2: No, the O and three Vikings are at the O

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Speaker 2: and three Panthers.

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Speaker 3: No, and no, I mean I don't want to. I mean, frankly,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to start anybody against the Vikings offense

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Speaker 3: because they run a ton of plays. They never run

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Speaker 3: the ball, Cousins always throwing late and ends up, you know,

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Speaker 3: putting up points. And I don't want everyone start the

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Speaker 3: Vikings d against Panthers though. I mean, that's maybe the

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Speaker 3: best one we've mentioned so far, But I think I'd

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Speaker 3: rather start the ones tonight than that one.

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Speaker 2: When you're not gonna like these Next to me, Well,

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Speaker 3: Bryce Young's playing, right, Yeah, which would help the Vikings

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Speaker 3: cause in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. So you got the O and three

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Speaker 2: Broncos at the OH and three Bears. Are you firing

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Speaker 3: I think I'm playing the Bronco after.

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Speaker 2: They gave up have any points? Last week?

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Speaker 3: Fields actually ran more than I thought.

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Speaker 2: This is this is a sneaky over game. To me,

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Speaker 2: I kind of think so too, But I don't think

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Speaker 2: either defense is very good.

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Speaker 3: No, Denver tackled really poor. I think the heat got

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Speaker 3: to them and frankly, they were just flat out awful.

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Speaker 3: But they have the better d of the two, and

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Speaker 3: you know, you know, in a vacuum. I don't think

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Speaker 3: this is going to be seven to three though, and just.

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Speaker 2: No, I think it's I don't know what the over

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Speaker 2: under that game is, but I bet you there's some

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Speaker 2: points scored in that game.

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Speaker 3: Fields take sacks, Yeah, that's noteworthy, but I kind of

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Speaker 3: keep getting this hunched. The field is going to rush

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Speaker 3: for one hundred of This could.

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Speaker 2: Be the game and be it. You got the two

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Speaker 2: and one Ravens at the two and one Browns.

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Speaker 3: I think you always start the Browns unless it's Miami

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Speaker 2: Think you start both defense. Fine, I don't love the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Cleveland's one of the best start we've

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Speaker 2: You have the two and one Steelers at the one

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Speaker 3: I don't think the Texans are.

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Speaker 2: Not going to play the start the Texans defense.

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Speaker 3: I mean, would you play the Texans defense against the Bears,

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Speaker 3: maybe I mean like that's that's where they're at.

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Speaker 2: Yah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't get sacks.

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Speaker 2: No, they don't take the football a way.

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Speaker 3: No, they don't have a lot of good players.

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Speaker 2: You've got the one and two Rams at the two

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Speaker 3: That's kind of like Packers Lions to me. Yeah, like,

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Speaker 3: if that's the best I can do, you would hope

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Speaker 3: it'd be a little more juice than that.

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Speaker 2: Well, a bunch of no's this week, a lot of nose.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got either one of those doing anything for you.

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Speaker 2: No. No, you get the two and one Buccaneers at

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Speaker 2: the two and one Saints. Saints, Yes, yeah.

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Speaker 3: But you're close to it every week. But you're going

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Speaker 3: to start them anyways, Yeah, right right, you're not picking

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Speaker 3: them up off the waiver one streaming them. You probably

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Speaker 3: have them or you don't. Bucks are a no even

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't. I can't go think a two psyched

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Speaker 2: about that. You've got the two and one Commanders at

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Speaker 2: the three and oh Eagles. The Eagles are an own defense.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to start the Commanders against the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: No. Washington was kind of a sneaky start early in

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Speaker 3: the season. Now they just got destroyed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got the one and two Bengals at the

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Speaker 2: one and two Titans. You're starting the Bengals defense this week? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: with pleasure. It's a bad, bad offensive line.

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Speaker 3: That's a well above average defense. That's a good group.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the one and two Raiders, even against struggling Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 2: The one and two Raiders are at the one and

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Speaker 2: two Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Definitely not the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: Definitely can't start the Chargers either, even if Jimmy Garoppolo

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Speaker 2: doesn't start, you can't start.

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Speaker 3: That's the only way to consider it.

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Speaker 2: It's the only way. And I actually even then I can,

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think I can.

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Speaker 3: No. I mean, the Raiders offense isn't bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, that's the strength of their Chargers. The one

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Speaker 2: and two Patriots at the two and one Cowboys. The

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Speaker 2: Cowboys are going to start, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, and they're a one you don't drop. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: consider the Patriots. I mean, I really like their d

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Speaker 3: but I bet they're gonna be on the field all.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be on the field a lot. Again, Dak,

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Speaker 2: they get the Dak Prescott factor.

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Speaker 3: Right, maybe cause a turnover or two, but they have

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Speaker 3: some O line issues that I don't know exactly what

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Speaker 3: the state of Tyron Smith is and some of those

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Speaker 3: guys you never know that. Yeah, yeah, they were missing

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Speaker 3: a couple of them last week. A lot of yuck there,

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Speaker 2: No on the Patriots. How about the one and two

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Speaker 2: Cardinals are at the three and oh forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 3: These are all the chalky ones or yeses, but not

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Speaker 2: Uh, the two and one? This is a Sunday night game.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs are at the Jets. Obviously you fired the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't start the Jets anymore. No, they're like

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Speaker 3: I dropped them, and I love the team, but their

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Speaker 3: schedules too hard and they're always on the field, so

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Speaker 3: they're no longer a keeper type defense.

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Speaker 2: The final game of Week four, the two and one

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Speaker 2: Seahawks are at the one and two Giants. Are you

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Speaker 2: starting the Seahawks defense against the Giants.

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Speaker 3: It's not that good, but I don't care.

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Speaker 2: But I mean based on everything else here, Like there's

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Speaker 2: like four slam defenses slam dunk defenses this week and

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Speaker 2: bed Yeah, like I.

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Speaker 3: Picked up the Bengals in the league, and I was

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Speaker 3: pretty happy about it, Like that's probably the fifth or

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Speaker 3: sixth best defense, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, of the defenses that you want to play this week.

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Speaker 2: You got real quick.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk Seattle Giants real quick.

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 3: I can't start the Giants d right, but the Giants,

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Speaker 3: oh might have Barkley and Jones are starting to look okay,

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Speaker 3: and yeah you might get them at the wrong time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh you know, I said, I mean, that's not

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Speaker 2: a slam dunk for to start Seattle, So Cleveland, Yeah, Baltimore, Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: We're starting all four and North AFC North defenses this week.

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Speaker 2: You would start the of course, the Eagles. Yeah, you'd

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Speaker 2: start the Saints, the Cowboys, the forty nine Ers, and

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs. That's it.

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Speaker 3: That was nine and those are all owned.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those are all defensive. But Cincinnati may have gotten.

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Speaker 3: Dropped maybe maybe So who else were you?

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Speaker 2: Maybe the Patriots, I guess, maybe you start the Buccaneers

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Speaker 2: against Jamis, maybe hoping for some you know, Chargers, maybe

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Speaker 2: the Chargers if if Garoppolo doesn't play.

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Speaker 3: How about the Who was the colt playing again? That

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Speaker 3: was one that I didn't think was the Rams. Maybe

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Speaker 3: both of them, the round out of twelve.

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Speaker 2: I don't love it.

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Speaker 3: Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: That's bad. It's a bad, bad, bad slead. If you're

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Speaker 2: looking to stream defenses, so hopefully you've insulated yourself with that.

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Speaker 2: I actually picked up the Chiefs last week, and I'm nice.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna roll them this week again. Their looks

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Speaker 2: really good. Yeah, yeah, it looks really good.

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Speaker 3: They'll get sacks.

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Speaker 2: They get sacks every year. Yeah. Against Looking at this

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Speaker 2: week's player news. Uh, Logan Thomas upgraded to a full

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Speaker 2: participant for Thursday's practice. You're looking for tight end help.

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Speaker 3: He's been good this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Kadarius Tony with his toe injury, remained limited for Thursday's practice.

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Speaker 3: Nothing new there, Yeah, various toe injury.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't actually play football all that much. Uh. Breese Hall,

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Speaker 2: with his knee injury, was upgraded to a full participant

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Speaker 2: in Thursday's practice. Is he a starter yet? Is he

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Speaker 2: a flex?

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Speaker 3: Falooks really bad? Their O line stinks. Their offense is horrible.

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Speaker 3: They didn't play them much because they were getting beat

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Speaker 3: by a million.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be getting beat by a million again this week.

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Speaker 3: Who they playing again?

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Speaker 2: Kansas City? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean the fourth quarter, don't play him.

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Speaker 3: Well, excuse if those two, If one of those two

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Speaker 2: The Packers placed David Bachtiari on injured reserve.

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Speaker 3: With him and Watson, it's a one with you. I'm

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Speaker 3: If you don't know by Sunday morning.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like picking up Rita sounds terrible to me.

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Speaker 2: But Seattle's run defense is not good.

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Speaker 3: That's what I say is it's a good matchup, and

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Speaker 2: But if yeah, if you have another option, you might

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Speaker 3: That makes sense, But you need to know Sunday morning.

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Speaker 2: I need to know before one o'clock because all my

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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, that you can pay to. I mean you

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Speaker 2: But if you get an owner, he's already in right, Yeah, Miles.

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Speaker 3: Ambrita, you might go to pick him up league. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean most he is after that injury.

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Speaker 2: Miles Sanders with the groin, was limited in Thursday's practice.

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Speaker 3: He's been catching passes. I mean they I didn't believe it,

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Speaker 3: I had him is my guy you know who's now

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Speaker 3: just shows that the Eagles don't throw balls the running backs. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but he's always nicked up. Oh, he's hard to trust. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: but he's an every starter for fantasy.

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Speaker 2: Austin Ekelar practiced on Thursday, so somebody's for them. Some

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Speaker 2: of these top top shelf running backs starting to work

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Speaker 3: This, which is huge obviously. Jonathan Taylor's coming back soon,

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor, who knows what. I don't think that ever

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Speaker 3: You don't think he plays it down anywhere this year? Nope,

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Speaker 3: If I were the Ravens, I trade for him, I

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Speaker 2: They don't have any cap space. They have not the

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Speaker 3: You could probably do it with like a roque one

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Speaker 3: or I don't know, but I'd be interested football wise

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But if he's.

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Speaker 2: And uh he could he could just say, you know what,

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Speaker 3: Oh. I think that's the way he thinks. I just

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Speaker 3: A few players do. Echolar though, is great because they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he might actually catch more passes.

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm saying yeah, and Keenan Allen's a superstar now too.

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Speaker 2: Bryce Young or from sorry Frank Frank Wright says Bryce

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that makes him better or worse,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, without a doubt. Ye. Justice Hill was back at

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so. But

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Speaker 2: Rashad Bateman did not practice on Thursday. Odell Beckham did

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's good for Andrews.

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Speaker 2: you if you would think Odell Beckham would want to

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Speaker 2: you get an ankle injury, what are you doing? I mean,

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Speaker 2: I understand players got to live their lives kind of things.

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Speaker 2: But you're in Baltimore. Did Kim Kardashian come to you

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Speaker 3: HM, as long as it's movement stuff. I mean they're

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Speaker 3: It's like he's more fancy relevant to people want to

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Speaker 3: That's what they're that's what they need is him back.

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Speaker 2: maybe he gets.

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Speaker 3: Back out, Yeah, protected the best he can. But no,

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Speaker 2: This is not what Christian Watson owners one year. Tom

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Speaker 3: I have him in our league, and even I need

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Speaker 2: David Montgomery expected to play tonight against the Packers and

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Speaker 3: He was a false report or something.

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Speaker 2: So first Tom Pallasaro came out and reported that Montgomery

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but just in terms of what they've gotten from

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Speaker 3: Okay, he'll probably got through it and he's playing well.

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Speaker 2: Uh just see here. Jalen Petree officially returned to practice

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Speaker 2: not unexpected.

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Speaker 3: Tunsel's looking very doubtful, right Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: There's no guarantee he comes back this week. How about

444
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Speaker 2: Pooka and Nakua with an oblique was limited Wednesday. We're

445
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Speaker 2: being to Wednesday stuff now because these guys always week.

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Speaker 2: Next week.

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Speaker 3: You're starting a coupa though. I mean, he came back

448
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Speaker 3: to earth a little bit last week, but.

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Speaker 2: A little bit. He's a starter, So yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 2: you know, we're at that time where if you start

451
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Speaker 2: seeing some of these guys are dealing with some stuff

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Speaker 2: after a month of the season.

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Speaker 3: Question, and you have to stay on top of the

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Speaker 3: injury reports, that's for sure, and uh back yourself up

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Speaker 3: up and be ready for the worst is coming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the worst is coming. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I would start next week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, with the Browns are one of the teams that

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Speaker 2: are offering.

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Speaker 3: Shocked when he said there was a Week five by,

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize that was in the card.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, it's and then they go all the way.

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Speaker 2: It's weird this year, all the way through Week fourth.

464
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Speaker 2: There are teams that are on by for the first

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Speaker 2: week of the playoffs this.

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Speaker 3: Year, first week of fantasy playoffs. Yeah, that's horrible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think Washington for sure was one

468
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Speaker 2: of them, because that was one of the reasons why

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to touch anybody who's on the Washington.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I mean, I'm not going to draft these

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Speaker 2: guys you play, even if you played them all. Say

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Speaker 2: you have Terry McLaurin, you played them all year long

473
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Speaker 2: and he had a great year. First game in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: you can't use him.

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Speaker 3: I bet a lot of league people. People in your

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Speaker 3: league don't know that though.

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Speaker 2: If you deal them that probably didn't well, yeah, probably

478
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Speaker 2: didn't pay attention to.

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Speaker 3: You have a couple of big weeks. You deal them now,

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Speaker 3: but they'll start hearing about it in November.

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Speaker 2: And then they'll freak out wait meeting.

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Speaker 3: No, that's goofy. I mean, obviously the NFL doesn't care

483
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Speaker 3: about fantasy, but that's a bit of a that's important.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Anyway, we're gonna get to a break.

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Speaker 2: at this week's prize mentioned Yesterday's quite the question for today.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned this yesterday. Tommy Maddox or Ben Roethlisberger the

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Speaker 2: most passing yards in a Steelers game versus the Texans.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that answer, but I'm guessing it's to me.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you do. You'd be good at this.

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Speaker 3: I have a feeling it's Tommy because he's thrown out there,

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Speaker 3: but I don't have any clue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, we can do. We can. There's there's some

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Speaker 2: here for Saturday and Sunday as well. So that was

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Speaker 2: one for today. We can go ahead and give you

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Speaker 2: tomorrow's question as well. We can do Saturday and Sunday's

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Speaker 2: questions tomorrow. All right, how about that? Antoine Randall l

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Speaker 2: or Mike Wallace the longest reception in a Steelers game

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Speaker 2: versus the Texans.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea that was.

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Speaker 2: Really going out to, like, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, yeah, do you know that one? I do know

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Speaker 3: that one, Yeka, I mean, Wallace seems like an obvious

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Speaker 3: One's a home run threat. The style of play, which

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Speaker 3: makes me think I'd go Randa wel I think they're

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Speaker 3: trying to trick me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if they're should make it multiples in there, like

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Speaker 2: three or four of them, three or four.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyways, that's Tonio Brown's name in there, which obvious.

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Speaker 2: The answer, Martavis Bryant. Yeah. So people wonder why we

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Speaker 2: talk fantasy football stuff a lot. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: stuff here that you can look at in terms of

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Speaker 2: fantasy uh stuff and and and find interesting nuts, all

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Speaker 2: kinds of nuggets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that pack I put together, a lot of

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Speaker 3: that comes through fantasy lens.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking here at Tristan Cockcrofts. He has their matchups

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Speaker 2: to exploit and avoid at each position across the league

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Speaker 2: this week. So I thought we'd look at this in

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Speaker 2: terms of what's going on here with the Steeler game. Uh.

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Speaker 2: They had the chart here that the defensive or defenses

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Speaker 2: to avoid for quarterbacks, defenses to exploits for quarterbacks and

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Speaker 2: you use this and to judge your your fantasy lineup.

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Speaker 2: So looking at the Steelers against the Texans this week,

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Speaker 2: Houston is basically middle of the pack fourteenth against opposing quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Quarterbacks, Yeah, makes sense. So some interesting things I found

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Speaker 3: out about the Texans past defense is they have a

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Speaker 3: very high completion percentage against, but they don't have a

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Speaker 3: lot of yards per carry or yards per catch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they play a lot of Cover two.

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Speaker 3: I say, because as you've been referencing, they play a

549
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Speaker 3: lot of zone. And it's only three games, but the

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Speaker 3: ball comes out fast, it's completed, but not for big games.

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Speaker 3: Is how people have been attacking these guys, which I

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Speaker 3: think makes sense considering their linebackers and underneath coverage and

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Speaker 3: all that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're trying to protect those guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you can get it out quick and complete passes,

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Speaker 3: but then they tackle the catch, you know. I think

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Speaker 3: both teams are kind of conceding that at this point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the running back matchups. So the where's it at here?

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Speaker 2: Where they at? Well, they're there, way, they're twenty sixth,

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Speaker 2: so we should I'm sorry, they're twenty seventh.

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Speaker 3: We should look at through Texans lens and a Steeler lens. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: like where's well they're the Steeler d I'm sure it's

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Speaker 3: favorable right now.

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Speaker 2: Right now. The yard I mean you can get yards

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Speaker 2: against the Steelers have defer yard is allowed is high high, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but that doesn't tell the whole still, it doesn't because

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Speaker 2: they've taken the ball away. Houston doesn't take the ball

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Speaker 2: of us.

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Speaker 3: The sacks and right right, I mean that's they're much

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Speaker 3: different in terms of big play.

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Speaker 2: They don't get the negative play. So Pittsburgh's defense is

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Speaker 2: the twelfth toughest matchup.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, for quarterbacks, well that makes sense because they

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Speaker 3: get hit a lot, and that's on that adds up

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Speaker 3: even though you can get yards on them or have

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Speaker 3: gotten yards on.

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Speaker 2: Them, and they haven't given up a ton of touchdown passes.

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Speaker 2: Like in terms of running backs, Houston is twenty seventh

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Speaker 2: against opposing running backs.

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Speaker 3: That needs a change if you're them, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: because you can't run the ball at all. They don't

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Speaker 3: have a great front seven. I mean, they rotate a

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Speaker 3: lot of players, but man, they need to work on

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Speaker 3: a run defense.

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Speaker 2: Right now. The Steelers are twenty sixth against opposing running backs.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of that again is too real long

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Speaker 2: skewed by the two long runs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they did a really good job against the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: If you took the and you can't do this obviously,

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Speaker 2: if you took the two long runs out of the equation,

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Speaker 2: the Steelers are probably like fourteenth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was saying, I mean, and that's

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Speaker 3: so be it. The thing about long runs.

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Speaker 2: Like, especially early in the season, they they just completely

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Speaker 2: blows everything out of the water in terms of you.

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Speaker 3: But if they snapped like the McCaffrey one, if they

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Speaker 3: snapped the ball in the red zone, he scores you

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Speaker 3: the way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a twelve yard run instead of a sixteenth.

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Speaker 3: You know, and that works for every team. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you can skew things that way.

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Speaker 2: It's different though for passing, like there's a lot more volume.

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Speaker 2: Well and not only that, but like the touchdown throw

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Speaker 2: to Calvin Austin on Sunday is a straight down the

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Speaker 2: middle of the field and he's just out running everybody.

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Speaker 3: When you created it, Yeah, you know you're not.

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Speaker 2: That's from if that's it can't be a twenty yard

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Speaker 2: pass because he hasn't created the separation.

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Speaker 3: Yet, Yeah, exactly, it is different. I mean you need

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Speaker 3: the room to work with to call that play. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: as opposed to pitch left from the fifteen going in,

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Speaker 3: as opposed from your own fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the George Pickens touchdown is a touchdown from twenty

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Speaker 2: five yards because he catches that. And I mean maybe

615
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Speaker 2: your safeties are up a little bit closer, but no, but.

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Speaker 3: A long run will definitely screw you up on these things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I mean this is a game where the

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Speaker 2: Steelers should run the football effectively.

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Speaker 3: I would think they will. I'll be disappointed if they don't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this will be you know, one that you should

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Speaker 2: take advantage of that wide receiver matchups. The Steelers are.

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Speaker 3: Steelers are very favorable for opposing.

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Speaker 2: What They're twenty sixth right now? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The Texans are ninth actually.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and again, who have they played?

627
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Speaker 2: Baltimore, Baltimore, Indy, Andy and then Jacksonville who didn't witch

628
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Speaker 2: drop like five passes? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so and Stingley's out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't see that this.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're different. I mean they do cat

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Speaker 3: tackle to catch. Well, well you mentioned you know, it

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Speaker 3: sounds like that's those stats add up. They allow a

634
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Speaker 3: lot of completions, not a ton of yardage. Fine, but

635
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Speaker 3: if you get in a rhythm just thinking ding ding

636
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Speaker 3: ding down the field.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you just have to stay patient, don't try.

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Speaker 3: To a lot of yeah, you know, two high zones

639
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, because they kind of all they

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Speaker 3: can do at the moment.

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Speaker 2: They kind of have to yeah. Uh. And then finally

642
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Speaker 2: the tight end matchup, and this is where you can

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Speaker 2: make now.

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Speaker 3: So this is a big one. So Steelers at least.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So the Steelers right now are eleventh defense. Let

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Speaker 2: me see here, I'm reading this correctly. Where's Houston at?

647
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Speaker 2: Oh well, so according to this, the Steelers are twelfth

648
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Speaker 2: against tight ends. Houston's eleventh. Wow, but again they let

649
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Speaker 2: you catch them all day long.

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Speaker 3: There's completion percentage against.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't sound rightly.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't sound right because the research I did on

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Speaker 3: tight ends was really favorite.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers have given up eight catches in three games

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Speaker 2: opposing tight ends, sixty four yards and no touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: I say, that's not even good fantasy numbers. Different if

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Speaker 3: you were three touchdowns or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I don't know where that I don't know

659
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Speaker 2: where these metrics are coming from here.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't add up for Steelers D. No, and Houston's

661
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 3: D has been really soft.

662
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: On like seventeen completions in twenty attempts, like.

663
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: High completion percentage. Yeah, and that's against not Andrews.

664
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mark Andrews didn't play.

665
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: The cults really don't have anybody, and Ingram had a

666
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: good game medics game, which is what fireman should do.

667
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, Yeah, if you look at this, if I'm watching,

668
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: if I'm the Steelers watching the Jacksonville.

669
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 3: Tape, that's something to take away for sure.

670
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm like, hey, we could throw to the tight

671
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: end all day here, because they're going to allow us

672
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: to do it.

673
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 3: And Ingram's a little different style than fire Moans, but

674
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 3: not by leaps bounce. Yeah, I mean they're both good runner.

675
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: You're still gonna match up. They're gonna match up one

676
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: of those inside linebackers on our tight end. Okay, maybe

677
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: safety help over the time. Maybe it's different this week

678
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 2: with Petra back, but maybe it's not.

679
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 3: But I think that also contributes to what we were

680
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: saying about ball out quick complete. Maybe not a lot

681
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 3: of run after catch.

682
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: Especially if you're running the ball effectively, if you'll take

683
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 2: the six yard gain or eight yard game, whatever it

684
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 2: may be, and just keep matriculating the ball down the field.

685
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 2: Because you know, the Steelers right now have three red

686
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: zone trips right for the season. I will be surprised

687
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: after this game if they don't double.

688
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: That have three in this one. At least at least

689
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,719
Speaker 3: what's an acceptable day. I know stats don't always tell

690
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 3: them the story for Friarmoth, like how many targets are

691
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: you expecting or should we I want to see eight,

692
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 3: I'd say at least six. Yeah, I mean at least.

693
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: Six to eight would be good. I think I think

694
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: he comes out of this with you know, let's say

695
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: five or six catches.

696
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: For sixty five seventy yards like that, at least fifty

697
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: time after the catch.

698
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: But he should have. It reminds me of those games

699
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: against the Bengals when Heath Miller would have like ten

700
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: catches for eighty eight yards because that's what they're going to.

701
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 3: Give you, and there are a lot of first downs

702
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: and it's so yeah, you're moving that, you're moving the

703
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 3: balls that he produced like it important.

704
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: You look at it at the end of the day

705
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: because well, he caught a lot of balls, but it

706
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: was for you know, eighty plus yards. But you still

707
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,479
Speaker 2: move the football stick. You're converting the first downs if

708
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: they're going to give you that, take it.

709
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that he's a super speedster, but I

710
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 3: wouldn't mind some longer routes for Friarmuth too. Like I

711
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 3: watched a lot of the Browns game, and maybe that's

712
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 3: the I.

713
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: Get it in that game. Yeah, that was very Brown

714
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: specific because you're worried about that pass.

715
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 3: A lot of chipping and just two yards on the

716
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 3: field type of things and outlets.

717
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: And dump offs and things like that, which I think

718
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: is what Schultz is doing right now for Hughes exactly

719
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: a lot of that.

720
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you saw more verticality against the Raiders just

721
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 3: with Friarmouth I'm talking about, but I would say, still

722
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: split those safeties, run some steam routes, you know, you

723
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 3: would you.

724
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: Do that against Drout? See how patient he can be?

725
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. I mean he seems to have those traits.

726
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 3: But prove it to me, you know what I mean?

727
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: Like, Okay, I want to I want to see you

728
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: put together. You're gonna you're gonna get a touchdown. We're

729
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: not gonna give you anything over the top. We're not

730
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: gonna let Tank Dell get over the top on this.

731
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 3: Here, because the Jags did.

732
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna make you.

733
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 3: Can you complete eight to ten passes on a.

734
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: Drive without taking a sack? They put your getting a

735
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 2: penalty on one of your bad offensive linemen. I mean,

736
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: that's that's exactly the way. I mean. I would play

737
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: it just like that against this team and force them.

738
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 2: You're gonna score. You're it's gonna take twelve.

739
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 3: Plays and as rookies go, I mean a month into

740
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: their career. He seems above the curve with that stuff,

741
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: but doesn't mean the other ten are for the five

742
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: blocking or six blocking or.

743
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: If you you know, if you're if you're doing that

744
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: and you're still getting hit. He's like in your mind,

745
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: you might may not think about it, but you might go, Okay,

746
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: we thrown ten times, you know less, ten times we've

747
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: thrown the ball. I've gotten hit seven of them. Like

748
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: I want to get a big chunk here, because.

749
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: That's really how his season's gone. I mean, his pressure rates.

750
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: Been really and that's what I mean. He's an Ohio

751
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: State quarterback. He's used to. Yeah, he's used to playing. Okay,

752
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: my guys are better. I'm just going to chuck it

753
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: down the field and you know, and he's been he

754
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: was very accurate doing that. Oh yeah, but I want

755
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: to make the guy. I want to make him. I

756
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: want to see how patient he can become.

757
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 3: Or I don't think it just hand.

758
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: I don't think that.

759
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it'll be alarming to me if the

760
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 3: Steeler d is softer versus run than the three they faced.

761
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: No, I think so too. It because I think the

762
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: inside linebackers are starting to understand how to play off

763
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: of each other a little bit here.

764
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: There's a communication aspect of that too, and they're all new.

765
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: I just think the more games those guys play with

766
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: each other like preseason is fine in training camp for you. Yeah,

767
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: I think the whole idea here is to get them

768
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: on the field together and knowing like I I talked

769
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: to Uh, I'm trying to think it was. I think

770
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: it might have been Kwant Alexander and he was talking.

771
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: It might have been a land and Roberts. He was

772
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: talking about a play at the goal line against the Bengals.

773
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: Or I'm sorry the Browns and I guess he just

774
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: went in and just completely blew up the Uh might

775
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: have been somebody tried to go over the top against them.

776
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: Maybe it might have even been San Francisco when they

777
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 2: stopped him and hulk them came Hulkham came in and

778
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 2: hit and he said they were talking about it, and

779
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: and Roberts said, he and Hulkham were talking about it,

780
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 2: and he just understood that as soon as as soon

781
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: as Land and Roberts saw somebody fullback or a pulling

782
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 2: pulling guard, he saw a pulling guard coming for that hole.

783
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: He's just like he just knew I was going to

784
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 2: go in there and blow that guy up. So he

785
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: then came around and took and took went over the top.

786
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: Those are the little things, Yeah, the little things that

787
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: you learn about each other.

788
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're you're the front guy, and then I cleaned

789
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 3: it up or vice versa or whatever. No, that makes sense.

790
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,479
Speaker 3: I would think those things will fall into place more.

791
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: I'll be alarmed if Houston runs the ball with.

792
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 2: Success, Yeah, because they haven't yet.

793
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: They haven't and they're blocking.

794
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: And I understand that the Raiders ran the ball last

795
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 2: week better than they had sort of, Yeah, but it

796
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 2: wasn't great.

797
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 3: That wasn't real press.

798
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean they're going the Raiders are going

799
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: to run the football better as the season goes on.

800
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs doesn't stink.

801
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 3: I do think holding out didn't help him a little bit.

802
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's kind of playing his way into shape.

803
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: But their blocking is bad too.

804
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

805
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 3: So what's weird about the Raiders more so than any

806
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 3: team in the league. The same people touch the ball.

807
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 3: Like if you just look at skill position touches, nobody

808
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 3: has three guys and then this cavern before number four.

809
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think although last week the Lions

810
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 2: through passes to four players.

811
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did see that.

812
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 2: They they attempted passes to four players target, four guys

813
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: got target. You want to talk about us, That's that's

814
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 2: quartering your pie. You've got all their guys out there.

815
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: It's similar this week running around running. Josh Reynolds played

816
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: the entire game, didn't get a target.

817
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: I mean, Laporta is getting a lot, Saint Brown will

818
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: always get a lot, and well, now that Montgomery's back,

819
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 3: it'll probably go to five or six. Yeah, but Gibbs

820
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: is definitely a.

821
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: Good Some get a couple it's crazy.

822
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is bonkers.

823
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: Four four.

824
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 3: There's games you see it, doesn't.

825
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: You see four in the first drive. That was one

826
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: thing that Ben Roethlisberger really did a good job of

827
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: in his career, like getting everybody touches early in the

828
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 2: game that matters.

829
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: People forget these guys are humans. Yeah, I'm blocking.

830
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go out here and run seventeen routes in

831
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: a row and not see a ball and.

832
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 3: The ball never comes way. Yeah, it's pretty easy to ye.

833
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: You start to you know, eventually got throw strike human

834
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 2: human nature telling you okay, that's seventeenth that's seventeenth round.

835
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go okay, I'm not getting the

836
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 2: ball here.

837
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, right, and then you get out at

838
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 3: her all right.

839
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you keep them, keep them involved.

840
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that is important, and some guys need it

841
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 3: more than others.

842
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, there he goes and it's again,

843
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: you've been the guy on whatever team you were on,

844
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: and you're used to getting the football and then you

845
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: go out and runs, you know, again, seventeen straight routes.

846
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: I never see the football.

847
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: So there's a new podcast at Chase Daniel hosts with

848
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 3: an athletic host, and he was talking about they were

849
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 3: just talking about like Davante Adams like this, Get he's

850
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 3: getting frustrated, you know, getting a ton of targets, but

851
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: we're not winning. My buddies now with the Saints, you

852
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: know why they come reason I came here. Yeah, And

853
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 3: Chase was talking about Michael Thomas in his heyday with

854
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: the Saints. He wanted the ball more than anyone he's

855
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: ever been with every time, and kind of like in

856
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: an ab sort of way, not that he's a paint

857
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:30,959
Speaker 3: in the bus.

858
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: They want the ball because they think they're the best.

859
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 2: They're going to be the reason why you win, and

860
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 2: they weren't wrong.

861
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, Whate's covering me. But we can't throw to

862
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 3: you every time, but we should. Like I felt like

863
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 3: the Raiders whould throw at the DeVonta Adams every time, and

864
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 3: they kind of did. Yeah, like Keenan Allen last week.

865
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Keenan Allen's going to be that heaving forward. Get

866
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: that we're gonna get through another break. He is the

867
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale. Lolley, you're listening to the

868
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back to

869
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 2: finish up the show right after this.

870
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

871
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

872
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

873
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 2: Welcome back on Dale Lolli, he is the Matt Williamson

874
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: and Matt just looking around the league here at some

875
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: different stuff. The Ravens injury list, it's.

876
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 3: A little vague and not that they're out of the woods.

877
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: No, I don't think they are so. Gus Edwards with

878
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 2: the concussion, was a full participant in practice.

879
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's positive. That looks like he's should be cleared

880
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 3: then very soon.

881
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: As we mentioned during the Fantasy segment, Rashaw Bateman and

882
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: Odell Beckham did not practice today. Ronnie Stanley was limited.

883
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 2: Tyler Linderbaum was limited.

884
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 3: This is Thursday.

885
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kyle Hamilton was limited.

886
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 3: And he's new. I mean he played played well last year.

887
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 3: That's a new edition.

888
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: David Ajabo did not practice. He's got an ankle and

889
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 2: a knee.

890
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 3: That's like he's gonna play.

891
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 2: O'dafeoa with an ankle did not practice. That's both of

892
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: their that's the two starting edge rushers too.

893
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 3: You know, high highly invested in guys that they're counting.

894
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 2: On Marlon Humphrey with that foot did not practice. That's

895
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: not been That's.

896
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 3: Marcus Williams story is he he was back.

897
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: He's the one who was back full as he got

898
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 2: to pay was back yesterday pectorial injury. He practiced in

899
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: full again.

900
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 3: There, So that's like the only good news they've had. Yeah,

901
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 3: and the other guys, maybe they get the offense feedback,

902
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 3: but it doesn't look great for the wideouts either.

903
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh for the Bills, Jordan Poyer are still out today.

904
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: Oh So, I think the real key to that game

905
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: we talked about last sight when we had a good

906
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 3: conversation about linebacker communication. That that pair of safeties against

907
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: that nasty, you know, Tyreek Waddle offense. I think it's

908
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 3: huge their communication. They've seen those guys every year. Should

909
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 3: keep everything in front of you. You you know, they're

910
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 3: good tacklers, they've been around the block, they've played played

911
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 3: together forever. They better have both of them. I mean,

912
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 3: I think that's one advantage they have. Yeah in Milano

913
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: as well in the middlefield.

914
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: On the brown side of things in that Ravens matchup.

915
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 2: Remember yesterday when they said Deshaun Watson was just resting

916
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: his shoulder. He was limited again today with the right shoulder.

917
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 3: Who's the backup there?

918
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 2: Uh? The kids? So yeah, you see al a kid,

919
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: You see l a kid.

920
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, who played well in the preseason.

921
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: But that's awesome preseason. Yeah, world, So.

922
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 3: If he plays, and assume he plays, does he run less?

923
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 2: I mean with them, I would assume so if. I mean,

924
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: it's just it's just throwing.

925
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 3: Shoulder, shoulder, you don't want to lower that in as

926
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 3: a ball.

927
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 2: You know. They they were using him on some design

928
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: runs and stuff of that nature, like all of a sudden, Hey,

929
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 2: he probably landed on it wrong or he did Maybe

930
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 2: he did it when he threw the ball twenty yards

931
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: backwards on that set and that instead of taking a sack.

932
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 3: I remember preparing for them. I mean that was when

933
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: they had Chubb. They would do a lot of snaps

934
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 3: by NFL standards of no backs.

935
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 2: On the field, no backs on the field, and let

936
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: him run with the ball.

937
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're gonna come out with a bad

938
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 3: shoulder and no backs on the field, I'm giving you

939
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 3: a light box, yeah, you know and saying that the football, yeah,

940
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: because we're going to hit your Roque is gonna blast you.

941
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

942
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 3: Uh.

943
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: Kareem Hunt with the ribs and groin injury was limited.

944
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 3: He didn't play a ton, but he helped them.

945
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 2: He played enough to hurt his ribs and groin.

946
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it might not be in the best football shop.

947
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 2: And Joel Buttonio was limited with an ankle.

948
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: Wow, that'd be really high on the list of guys

949
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: who don't want to lose. Yeah, considering all the shuffling

950
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: they've had in their line, he's a really good player.

951
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: Uh. For the Cowboys, Tyron Smith did not practice against

952
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: dealing with the knee. Zach Martin was limited, Tyler Biadis

953
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: was with the hamstring was limited, and the Stars. Uh,

954
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: Chuma Edoga it was another offensive lineman was with Was

955
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 2: it limited with an elbow injury? That's four offensive linemen.

956
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: That's stuff he can't overcome. No, that was kind of

957
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 3: an underreported story about their lost Arizona. Was they were

958
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 3: down o lineman?

959
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, the offen the line got all banged up. Uh.

960
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: For the Broncos in that big match up against the

961
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears.

962
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 3: Could depend on where Caleb Williams ends up.

963
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: Jerry Judy with the knee was limited, Frank Clark with

964
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: a hip did not practice. Josie Jewel with the hip

965
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: did not practice, and Justin Simmons with the hip was limited.

966
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: They got a lot of hip injuries. A hip hip

967
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: hip team like Martha Washington hip hip hip Lady UH

968
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: mentioned this stuff there with the with the Packers and

969
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 2: Lacquer Lions.

970
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 3: UH.

971
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: For the Houston Texans, Laramie Tunsell did not participate in

972
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 2: Thursday's practice. He's still on I R. I think no,

973
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 2: it's not ir he was on the pop. Uh. He's

974
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 2: not playing this week. That's that's the.

975
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 3: Because of the designation, and he hasn't been out there

976
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 3: and been off it yet.

977
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 2: I just don't see it. I don't either.

978
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 3: I mean every report you read is like that very unlikely.

979
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: Shaq Mason did practice in full. He's dealing with an

980
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: ankle injury.

981
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 3: He started played last week.

982
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 2: Jonathan Greenard with a knee. He's one of their defensive

983
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 2: linemen full participant. He's dealing with the knee. Denzel Perryman

984
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: with the hand and wrist, did not practice. Their inside

985
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: linebacker Shack Griffin was back as a full participant. He's

986
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 2: dealing with a foot injury. UH. Tavarry Thomas UH with

987
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 2: a hand did not practice. He's their slot. And then

988
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 2: Jalen Petra with the chess was a full participant.

989
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 3: That's the good news for them.

990
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's player. Yeah. Uh for the Chiefs, Patrick Mahomes

991
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: with that ankle injury was a full participant today.

992
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 3: I mean that didn't look great when it happened.

993
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 2: No, it did not. Isaiah Pacheco with the abdomen was

994
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: a full participant. Just looking down here. Donovan Smith with

995
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: a rib injury was limited. That's their starting left tackle.

996
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 3: At least they have some options. Chris Jones Taylor got

997
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 3: benched during this game.

998
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: Keeps getting keep the thing right, like.

999
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 3: Get a clue.

1000
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 2: Chris Jones with a groin was limited. He's been another

1001
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: one of those guys who came off the couch.

1002
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 3: And sometimes that's you know, Hunt and some of those guys. Yeah.

1003
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 2: Nick Bolton with an ankle did not participate. Willie Gay

1004
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: with a quad was a full participant. Lugerious Snead with

1005
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: the knee full participant. Jaylen Watson with the shoulder did

1006
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: not participate. Yeah, and then the safeties, Ryan Cook and

1007
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: Mike Edwards are both full participants. Ekeler ended up being limited.

1008
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: Uh for the Chargers as was as was Rashaan Slater

1009
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: and Corey Linsley actually did not practice. Neither did Joey Bosa.

1010
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: I would say, there's something going on with he's got.

1011
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: A hamstring and toast issue. He's always got something. Derwin

1012
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: James did not practice. He's dealing with a hamstring. Yeah.

1013
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: These are their stars that they missed last year.

1014
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 2: And then Eric kendricks Is the hamstring was limited. Like

1015
00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: their defense is all banged up. Yeah, just looking here.

1016
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: If anybody else jumps out at me here, Patriots have

1017
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: some stuff going on here. Cole Strange and with the

1018
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 2: knee was limited. City City sal with a concussion limited,

1019
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: Christian Barmore with a knee limited, Devon Gotscha with an

1020
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 2: ankle limited, and then Jonathan Jones, the cornerback with an

1021
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: ankle also was limited.

1022
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 3: They get the Cowboys when you get the.

1023
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 2: Cowboys right now? Yeah, soon to be one and three. Yeah.

1024
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: I mentioned that Giants with Saquon Barkley, he was limited

1025
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: to practice today. Officially. That's a good that's a good sign.

1026
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: Brian Daboll said the Giants will evaluate how Barkley feels

1027
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: as they prepare for Monday's game against the Seahawks kind

1028
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 2: of expect him to go.

1029
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 3: It seems like the way.

1030
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: If he wasn't gonna play, you don't even do a

1031
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: limited this like he got like especially for with the

1032
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: extra day, like you just kind of tested it out.

1033
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 2: Tomorrow will be a big day if he goes limited

1034
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: again tomorrow or fool and pretty good. But if he

1035
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 2: doesn't practice at all tomorrow, then you say, okay, that's

1036
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: a setback. He's not going to play.

1037
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, if he is out there tomorrow, like you said,

1038
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a Christian Watson run twelve go routes.

1039
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 2: So I think it's okay. You're back to being the guy. Yeah.

1040
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: For the Steelers injury report, Gunner Olschewsky has been cleared

1041
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 2: from concussion protocol. He was a full participant in Thursday's practice.

1042
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 2: Alan Robinson with the ankle injury, was limited. Darnell Washington

1043
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: with the knee did not practice today. That's a new one.

1044
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 2: Connor Hayward with the ankle, was a full participant. Chooks

1045
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 2: a corps for he has an elbow. He was a

1046
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 2: full participant today after being limited yesterday. Larry Ogan Joby,

1047
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 2: with the foot as usual, was limited today. And then

1048
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: Presley Harvin with that hamstring did not participate today and

1049
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 2: the sign Wing. They signed Brad Wing to the practice squad.

1050
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: You'll know by Saturday. They would elevate him Saturday. That

1051
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 2: would let you know if Presley Harvin's not going to play.

1052
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 2: The key to that is just dumpun never have to.

1053
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 2: You don't have to worry about it.

1054
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: The one that stands out to be there though, is Washington.

1055
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a new one. Yeah, and that that needs

1056
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: a chronic thing for him, That something he's gonna deal with,

1057
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: assuming it's the same one I would assume. Man. Yeah,

1058
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 2: but Matt, that's going to do it for today's show.

1059
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 2: Another one more books. We got one more tomorrow. We'll

1060
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 2: be back to make our game picks. You got to

1061
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: pick for tonight's game.

1062
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 3: Hmm. I expect to be really close. I'm kind of expect.

1063
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 2: Low scoring, like something high teens, low twenties. Yeah, something

1064
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: along those lines.

1065
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 3: I don't know who's favored or any of that stuff.

1066
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: I would take any points.

1067
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: It actually moved three points. The Packers opened is one

1068
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: and a half point favorites. The Lions are now one

1069
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: and a half point favorites.

1070
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 3: I would just take the points.

1071
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: I think in Green Bay, yeah, get road goff road golf.

1072
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think whether it should be decent though,

1073
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 3: should be okay, Yeah, should be a really good game.

1074
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah uh, that's going to do it. So for my

1075
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 2: partner Matt Williamson for justin here in sight keeping us

1076
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 2: on the air, I am Dale Lally. We thank you

1077
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: for listening to this edition of the Drive on Steelers

1078
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