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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Everybody, Oh my gosh, A lot going

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Speaker 1: he was clearly aware of this stuff. He must have

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Speaker 1: been made aware by the FBI, and they decided not

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Speaker 1: to make a big deal of it. But yet that

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Speaker 1: was then. It wasn't a big complicated espionage scheme. Now

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Speaker 1: we are told things like this by former Justice Department officials.

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Speaker 1: If the indictments we believed it has proven, it looks

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Speaker 1: like a pretty sophisticated operation. These groups functioned um trying

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Speaker 1: to present themselves as Americans, had enough clout online to

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Speaker 1: show some followers, and and tried to get in touch

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Speaker 1: at least on a couple of occasions with members of

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Speaker 1: the Trump campaign and helped to organize um various kind

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Speaker 1: of of rallies. Both it looks like foreign against Trump.

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Speaker 1: So what are we to do about that? What are

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Speaker 1: we to make of it? How do you stop that?

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Speaker 1: I would note, are we going to have mandatory verification

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00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: of Actually wish that social media did have man mandatory verification.

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Speaker 1: I wish that every person with a social media account

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Speaker 1: had we all got to know who they were, exactly,

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00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: who's operating it and there was none of this stuff.

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00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: That actually be a great idea for like a new

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Speaker 1: version of Facebook where everyone it has to be a

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Speaker 1: real person, you've got accountability. That would be great. I'm

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Speaker 1: all in favor of it. But this is not realistic.

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Speaker 1: It's not the way that it works right now. So

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Speaker 1: there's a there's no end in sight to this, folks.

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Speaker 1: You know, I know Trump tweeted out that there was

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Speaker 1: no collusion. He's correct, there's no collusion. Um And I

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Speaker 1: saw that my old friend Kaylee mckin then he was

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Speaker 1: on Fox and she said, this is the end of

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Speaker 1: the Russia collusion conspiracy. It's not the end of the conspiracy.

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Speaker 1: I think she was implying it should be and I

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Speaker 1: would agree with that, but it is not the end

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Speaker 1: at all. They will not stop. It is not going away.

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Speaker 1: So this is the big news that we get on

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Speaker 1: on Friday. This continues on, and you know now you're

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Speaker 1: going to have all kinds of talk about when the

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Speaker 1: next shoe will drop them all investigation. I will note

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Speaker 1: that there I saw only today some people on the

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Speaker 1: left now that we got these thirteen indictments out there,

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Speaker 1: so some people who were uh saying, well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: nobody really took it seriously. There was collusion at the

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Speaker 1: top level the Trump campaign, because why would he be

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Speaker 1: reaching out Why would the Russians have contact with a

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Speaker 1: C list player even in the Trump circle like Carter

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Speaker 1: Page and Papadopoulos the No matter what anyone says, those

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Speaker 1: are low level people in the campaign. If Trump is involved,

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Speaker 1: why the Russians interacting with them? That makes no sense.

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Speaker 1: But they're just changing the story so that it seems

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Speaker 1: like they're less crazy as this goes along, because eventually

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Speaker 1: there will not be any more room for them to say, oh,

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Speaker 1: there was Russia collusion. Oh it's any day now. But

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Speaker 1: until that day we get to keep hearing not yet,

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Speaker 1: not yet, they're on it, and the press will be

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Speaker 1: asking the president, may the president, will you sanction Russia? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's how this is going to go. Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: it's Fridays. You know what that means. It's action movie

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Speaker 1: quote Friday, where it's an effect. Today we're not action.

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Speaker 1: You could ask yourself question, lucky you a movie? This

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Speaker 1: spot off? Quote Friday's action movie quote Fridays? Here you

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Speaker 1: actually movie quote Friday? Everybody? Are we got lines? We'll

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Speaker 1: get to some calls after the break. Stay with me

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Speaker 1: our two. We're gonna talk about this. It's FBI situation.

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Speaker 1: They messed up big time, folks. We will get into

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Speaker 1: that in the next hour. Stay with me. Does this

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Speaker 1: end today? Like? Is this over for the Trump campaign

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Speaker 1: and any of the officials. I think it's particularly good news.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that that that word is subject is

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Speaker 1: not subject to change, but at least on the available

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Speaker 1: evidence at this point in the investigation, I think that

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Speaker 1: the White House probably should justifiably breathe a sigh of relief,

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Speaker 1: meaning that the secondary aspect of the mandate has not

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Speaker 1: been proven. In other words, there's no evidence yet that

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Speaker 1: has been developed, and this indictment would seem to be

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Speaker 1: consistent with that. That would indicate that there was collusion

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Speaker 1: by the Trump campaign in Russian efforts to interfere and

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Speaker 1: influence the two thousand and sixteen presidential election. Yeah, it's

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00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: not over that, guy's right, it's not over. Going to

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00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: keep on just grinding on the background. Let's take Charles

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Speaker 1: in Houston. What's up, Charles, Hey, Buck, how's it going, man?

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Speaker 1: I'm good, Thank you for your call. Hey, I just

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Speaker 1: want to talk about informational warfare for part of it.

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Speaker 1: That's you know, they're trying to they're trying to demonstrate,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's no monetary value going back and forth,

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Speaker 1: at least none that none that they have divulged to

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Speaker 1: us right now. But George Sorrow spends all his money.

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Speaker 1: He's a for national influence in super PACs and actually

513
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Speaker 1: spending money. So why aren't people up in arms about that?

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Speaker 1: It's going to the US citizen. I don't have to check.

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Speaker 1: I think he is. I think he is a U.

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Speaker 1: S citizen, But I mean he's he does not sound

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Speaker 1: like a U. S. It is in because he is

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Speaker 1: so autos But you know, yes, he is a U.

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Speaker 1: S citizen, So okay, well, I mean, and then then

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Speaker 1: that takes that off the table, you know, but that's

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Speaker 1: where I was going with that. Not sure, it's not

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Speaker 1: sure where we could go there, but we'll check. I could.

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Speaker 1: I could be wrong, I mean, I but I also wonder,

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Speaker 1: you know, he is a US citizen. Yeah. I also wonder, Charles,

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Speaker 1: at what point does this become so so if it's

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Speaker 1: an f EC violation, meaning it's a Federal Election Commission

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Speaker 1: violation for Russians to be trying to remember wage information

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Speaker 1: warfare that's from the indictment, which I've never even heard

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Speaker 1: of as a crime before. I'm not saying there's no

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Speaker 1: such thing as information warfare, but that's a very malleable term, right.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, So can I can any one now anywhere

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Speaker 1: in the world set up an account where they're like,

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Speaker 1: you know, my name, my name is you know, my

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Speaker 1: name is Jim, and I live in America and I'm

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Speaker 1: voting for so and so, and it's actually some dude

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Speaker 1: in I don't know, the Philippines or India or Turkey

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Speaker 1: or you know who knows where? Right, and are they

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Speaker 1: waging information warfare? Acains the United States, it seems a

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Speaker 1: little extreme. Well with with an open internet, you know,

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Speaker 1: so it's gonna open internet and go down that route.

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Speaker 1: People didn't do whatever they want exactly, but even take

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Speaker 1: the international flavor out of it. What if Buck sex

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Speaker 1: and tomorrow writes a blog post based on information of

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Speaker 1: that moment staying something, then comes back six months later,

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Speaker 1: Oh it was, you know, there was They found more information.

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Speaker 1: They come back and say, well, Buck was spreading information warfare.

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Speaker 1: He's you know, he's a he's a terrorist against the state,

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Speaker 1: he's domestic And where does the line get drawn with this?

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Speaker 1: This is what I was amazed, and I got a

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Speaker 1: lot of heat for this day on Twitter because I said,

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Speaker 1: this seems like weird overreach to me. Look, I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that identity theft and and wire fraud or whatever

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Speaker 1: are in crimes. I get that. But the whole point

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Speaker 1: about how how information warfare is being waged by the

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Speaker 1: Russians here, I'm like, uh, they information warfare. They were

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Speaker 1: advocating for different political candidates in this country. By the way,

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Speaker 1: we do all kinds of the US government openly does

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Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff. We've got our pro democracy organizations abroad.

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Speaker 1: Guess what a pro democracy organization in a country that

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Speaker 1: doesn't have democratic elections is influencing the country, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we have all these different international institutions that we're influencing

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Speaker 1: countries all the time. I just think the information warfare

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Speaker 1: concept is that just kind of that strikes me a

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Speaker 1: little weird. You know, if they just indebted these guys

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Speaker 1: for identity theft, they'll be like, yeah, okay, fine, information

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Speaker 1: war A conspiracy to defraud the United States government was

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Speaker 1: what they was what they actually said in the indictment.

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Speaker 1: Defraud the government, how I mean defraud and the individuals

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Speaker 1: who have their identity stolen. Fun but defraud the government

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Speaker 1: because they were spreading ideas. That's called politics book. That's

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Speaker 1: what I thought by our foreign Also, how about this,

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Speaker 1: a lot of foreign media entities are state sponsored. So

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Speaker 1: is now a state sponsored media entity that operates in

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Speaker 1: this country. We're just talking about Al Jazeera earlier in

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Speaker 1: the week, and they might have to register as a

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Speaker 1: foreign agent, right, But there are a lot of foreign

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Speaker 1: media entities Dore's does the Daily Mail, the UK based

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Speaker 1: Daily Mail? Do they are they waging information warfare in

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Speaker 1: this country? If they spread a story that's a lie

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Speaker 1: or the the BBC are absolutely right, the BBC that

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Speaker 1: that's government news, that's government information. So okay, So people say,

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Speaker 1: well those aren't hostile. Okay, So what about what about

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Speaker 1: Chinese uh state sponsored media? What about like Shinhwah news agency?

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Speaker 1: Are are they waging information warfare when they post stories

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Speaker 1: on the internet in English and people share them here?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just trying to think this thing through

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Speaker 1: beyond oh my god, Russia, and you know it starts

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00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: to get a little hazy, doesn't it. Well, you're using

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Speaker 1: you're using logic again. You're trying to think of the

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Speaker 1: bigger picture, not the immediate sound by. You're trying to say, okay,

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Speaker 1: if they say this, what does it mean for ABC

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Speaker 1: and D as well? You know you're you're thinking down

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Speaker 1: the road and implications, right, You're not just going to

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Montra going not our president like you're pointing

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Speaker 1: out before. Well, I appreciate that. And Charles and Soto

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Speaker 1: sends the guards, how do you have a good weekend?

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Speaker 1: You have a good weeks misses you bye bye? Um

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Speaker 1: Kenny in Boston, Kenny, we got about actually we got

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Speaker 1: like less than a minute but you've been on hold

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Speaker 1: that everyone else is on the hold. What do you got, Kenny?

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Speaker 1: I got a couple of things. I got a quote,

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Speaker 1: and I have a thing about the Russian blockbuster as

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Speaker 1: it's called. You know, what's the scariest thing about me

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Speaker 1: is the timings and the patterns of these announcements and stuff.

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Speaker 1: They come at a great time. So how is it

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Speaker 1: possible that this particular Russian thing was based on the

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Speaker 1: fact that they dropped the ball on the shooter investigation

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Speaker 1: and that this story has actually been lying and waiting.

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Speaker 1: You know, they just hastily through this together or got

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Speaker 1: the thing through and all of a sudden, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess what we get. We don't know when these

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Speaker 1: uh indictments were laid down. We're gonna talk about Kenny,

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Speaker 1: thank you for Colina. We're gonna talk about the FBI

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Speaker 1: what we found out today about how they handled that tip.

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Speaker 1: The FBI got a tip that could have prevented that shooting. Folks.

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Speaker 1: So I had planned team Welcome to our two of

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Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show. I had planned, because it was Friday,

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Speaker 1: to move on to some other topics. I felt I

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Speaker 1: felt like we had discussed what was necessary with regard

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Speaker 1: to that terrible shooting in Parkland, Florida. I didn't I

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Speaker 1: wasn't gonna touch on the subject at all today. I

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Speaker 1: didn't think it was really something we had we had

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Speaker 1: to do. I felt like we had covered it. And

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Speaker 1: then this FBI statement comes out this morning, and I am.

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Speaker 1: I am at a level shocked, but also not at all.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a part of me that wants to

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Speaker 1: believe that the FBI is more on it than this,

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Speaker 1: And then there's also know a part of me that

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Speaker 1: knows that federal bureaucracies and the federal government. That's what

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Speaker 1: I said to you yesterday, that the government can't protect

631
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Speaker 1: you all the time, and the government can't protect you

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Speaker 1: that well, a lot of the time. It's up to you.

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Speaker 1: It's up to all of us. You gotta protect each other,

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Speaker 1: gotta protect yourself. Here's this FBI statement. I'll just read

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Speaker 1: it to you, and then, well, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: what we're supposed to make of this. It's on January,

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Speaker 1: a person close to Nicholas Cruz, the Parkland shooter, contacted

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Speaker 1: the FBI's Public Access Line tip line to report concerns

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Speaker 1: about him. The caller provided information about cruizes, gun ownership,

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Speaker 1: desire to kill people, uranic behavior, and disturbing social media posts,

641
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Speaker 1: as well as the potential of him conducting a school shooting.

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Speaker 1: Under established protocols, the nation provided by the callers should

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Speaker 1: have been assessed as a potential threat to life. The

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Speaker 1: information should have been forwarded to the FBI Miami Field Office,

645
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Speaker 1: where appropriate investigative steps would have been taken. We have

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Speaker 1: determined that these protocols were not followed for the information

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Speaker 1: received by the p L on January five. The information

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Speaker 1: was not provided to the Miami Field Office and no

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Speaker 1: further investigation was conducted. At that time. FBI Director chrispher

650
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Speaker 1: Ray said, we are still investigating the facts. I am

651
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Speaker 1: committed to getting to the bottom of what happened in

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Speaker 1: this particular matter, as well as reviewing our process for

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Speaker 1: responding to information that we received from the public. It's

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Speaker 1: up to all Americans to be vigilant, like I've been saying,

655
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Speaker 1: and when members of the public contact us with concerns,

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Speaker 1: we must act properly and quickly. We have spoken with

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Speaker 1: victims and families and deeply regret the additional pain this

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Speaker 1: causes all those affected by this horrific tragedy. All of

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Speaker 1: the men and women of the FBI are dedicated to

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Speaker 1: keeping the American people safe and are relentlessly committed to

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Speaker 1: improving all that we do and how we do it.

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Speaker 1: That's the statement, uh, in terms of a foul up, Folks,

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Speaker 1: in this situation, I'm having a hard time thinking how

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Speaker 1: much bigger of a mess up you could see from

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Speaker 1: the FBI side than this. They received a name, with

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Speaker 1: detailed information and a specific claim that this school shooter

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Speaker 1: was likely to conduct a school shooting, and they just

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Speaker 1: did nothing. Now, notice what happens when you put this

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Speaker 1: in conjunction with the other story. And that was already

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Speaker 1: concerning enough that the YouTube comment about quote I want

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Speaker 1: to be what he said, I want to be a

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Speaker 1: professional school shooter. I'm going to be a professional school shooter.

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Speaker 1: End quote. How that was flagg for the FBI. The

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Speaker 1: FBI met with the person who flagged it, which I

675
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: will note. You know, when they just do that and

676
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Speaker 1: don't follow up and try to find the person who

677
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: did it, makes you think do I really wanna do

678
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: I really want to see something say something? Because all

679
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I've got FBI guys who are like, well,

680
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Speaker 1: how do you know this person? You know, what do

681
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: you know? What do you know about this? Look, I

682
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: can understand from a normal person's point of view on this,

683
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: you might say, maybe I'm just not gonna see something

684
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Speaker 1: and say anything. But they had that information about the

685
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Speaker 1: YouTube posting in true name Nicholas Cruz spelled in a

686
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Speaker 1: way that very few people in the country spell their

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Speaker 1: name that way. I mean, if they had done an

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Speaker 1: Instagram search of the name. Okay, I'm not talking about

689
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Speaker 1: some high level, super secret scurel FBI stuff. We're not

690
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: talking about you know, rerouting spy satellites here, folks. If

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Speaker 1: they had done an Instagram search of the name on

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Speaker 1: the YouTube comment, they probably would have found the kid

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Speaker 1: right away. I'm guessing there aren't a lot of Nicholas

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Speaker 1: Cruises that are writing that kind of stuff and have

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Speaker 1: photos of them all over the place with knives and

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Speaker 1: guns and looking pretty aggressive and mutilated animals and all

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Speaker 1: the rest of it. Right, So if they fell down

698
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Speaker 1: on that one, and I was willing to say, Okay, look,

699
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Speaker 1: a lot of comments, there's a lot of stuff going

700
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Speaker 1: on that nothing's perfect, and you know, there's human error here.

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Speaker 1: I understand that However, when you have someone who is

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Speaker 1: calling in to the FBI line with detailed information and

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Speaker 1: a name about an individual who may be involved in

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Speaker 1: a who maybe soon to be a school shooter, and

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Speaker 1: the FBI does nothing, What the heck is the point

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Speaker 1: of the FBI's public access line. And I know, I

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Speaker 1: do think it's unfair to immediately jump to a conclusion

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Speaker 1: that I saw a lot of people doing on social media,

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00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: which is, oh, well, you know, maybe they were doing

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Speaker 1: there was too much Russian Russia investigation going on for

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Speaker 1: there to be any resources put to this. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's fair. Different offices different But I do think

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Speaker 1: if someone had called into that tip line and said,

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Speaker 1: you know, I I know the guy who offered to

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Speaker 1: give the Trump campaign Hillary's hacked emails, I feel like

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Speaker 1: that person would have gotten there would have been a

717
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: call back, and there would have been some action taken.

718
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Speaker 1: I do think that's true, which tells you something about

719
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Speaker 1: the priorities these days of America's premier law enforcement agency,

720
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Speaker 1: at least from the top down. You know that that

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Speaker 1: may be that the influence that this collusion hysteria has

722
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Speaker 1: had is deeper than we think. But I'm surmising. I'm

723
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Speaker 1: I'm theorizing on that one. But you'll notice that there

724
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Speaker 1: was this recitation of the mantra after this terrible school

725
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Speaker 1: shooting of if you see something, say something, it's incumbent

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Speaker 1: upon each each one of us to report to the

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Speaker 1: authority's report to the authorities. It was reported repeatedly and

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Speaker 1: in detail. Everybody knew every red flag was seen and

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Speaker 1: noted and spoken about. And what we get to here

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Speaker 1: is is there is there nothing the government can do

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Speaker 1: or would do to stop this. And I think the

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Speaker 1: answer is maybe even if they had followed up on this,

733
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Speaker 1: maybe the intervention by the FBI to sit down with

734
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Speaker 1: this kid and say, don't be a psycho killer that

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Speaker 1: might have had some effect. I don't know. We also

736
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Speaker 1: could argue, what have a accelerate the process, but it

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00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 1: seems like there's very little hope. If they can't stop

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Speaker 1: Nicholas Cruise from being in a school shooter, what makes

739
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: you think that they're going to stop the next one.

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Speaker 1: This kid could not have been anymore obvious, aggressive, blatant,

741
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Speaker 1: leaving a huge trail for everybody. I mean, if we

742
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Speaker 1: were to put this in terrorism in terms, this would

743
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: be like the guy who you know, is walking around

744
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: the back of the mosque saying, I want to be

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Speaker 1: a suicide bomber. I want to be a suicide bomber.

746
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Speaker 1: And everyone knows and they interview him and everything, and

747
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 1: he's on the FBI's radar, and then a couple months

748
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Speaker 1: later he's a suicide bomber somewhere. Yeah, that is pretty

749
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: analogous to what happened here this guy. All the flags

750
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: were there, we saw them, we noted it. The FBI

751
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: didn't pass it along, didn't didn't look into this. I

752
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: would say this. I wonder what other tips were called

753
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: into the public access line that that did get followed

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00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: up on. Where they looking into, you know, Medicare fraud

755
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Speaker 1: and Florida. Where they were what were they spending their

756
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: resources and time doing well? I guess they didn't even

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00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: pass it onto the field office. So not to single

758
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 1: out the Florida field office, but what were they spending

759
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: their resources on what could be a higher priority than

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Speaker 1: at least look it into this. They've they've got the people,

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00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: They've got the people to run down the all the

762
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: stuff we're seeing with the Russia. We look, we had

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Speaker 1: this all this fan for today, right thirteen indictments in

764
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Speaker 1: Russia of Russians for setting up sock puppets. That's a

765
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: whole lot less important than what what happened earlier this

766
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: week in Florida, a whole lot less devastating, not even

767
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: the same universe, not even the same stratosphere of importance,

768
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 1: and yet nobody looked into it. Um, this is my friends,

769
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: this is not This is not good. It does not

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00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: look good for the FBI on this one. Um, it

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00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: makes us feel It makes it feel like the whole

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Speaker 1: see something, say something campaign is just lip service, you know,

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Speaker 1: see something, say something ing has meaning, maybe if you're

774
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 1: talking about I don't know, someone engaged in white collar

775
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: fraud somewhere, or maybe Russia collusion. But school shooting. This

776
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: didn't get this didn't get any resources or any attention whatsoever.

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00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: I mean human error. I was willing to give the

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00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: FBI some benefit of the doubt on the YouTube comment

779
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: because I figured, Okay, there's a lot going on, you know,

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Speaker 1: they there's a lot of comments that are posted here

781
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: and there. But that was because you didn't have a

782
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: full picture, and what it was just Nicholas Cruz a

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00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: name and one comment on one YouTube clip. Okay, there's

784
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Speaker 1: a lot of any of you have spent time in

785
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: the comment sections of websites, no, pretty gross, scary stuff

786
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: that people are saying, and all the rest of it.

787
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Speaker 1: But this call, this call had everything quote cruises, gun ownership,

788
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: desire to kill people, erratic behavior, disturbing social media posts,

789
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: potential of him conducting a school shooting. The FBI could

790
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 1: have followed up on this in two minutes. They could

791
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: have looked at this kid's instag I mean it was

792
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: all there. They didn't even have to investigate really, I mean, heck,

793
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Speaker 1: they could have brought in a high school kid and said, hey,

794
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: this is what we were told. What do you think

795
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: you know? Can you do a do a quick scrub

796
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: of social media? Could have brought in an intern. I

797
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: would have been able to figure this out. Nothing. Ah, Look,

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Speaker 1: it looks pretty bad for the fbion. I don't know

799
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: what else to say. I remember or all the you know,

800
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Speaker 1: the different you know, the heat that the intelligence community

801
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: got for while both WMD and Rock and then before

802
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,439
Speaker 1: that Missing nine eleven. And I'm a believer in accountability

803
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: for these massive and very powerful federal bureaucracies. I really am.

804
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: And I don't know what accountability looks like for this,

805
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: because this is this is bad. Governor Scott of Florida's

806
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: saying the FBI director should resign. I think there's a

807
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: there's two philosophies on that point. On the one hand,

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00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: you have people who will say, pardon the phrase, the

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00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 1: buck stops with the guy at the top. That would

810
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Speaker 1: be Christopher Ray. So even though he had no direct

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Speaker 1: ability to influence this, there has to be a show

812
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: of accountability. Maybe the other side of it is, are

813
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: you really going to have the FBI director resigned because

814
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Speaker 1: of what employees far down the chain of command did

815
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Speaker 1: not do has nothing to do with him. I tend

816
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Speaker 1: to fall more into that category, just because I don't

817
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: think you can hold the head of an organization responsible

818
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Speaker 1: for uh incidental or or not incidental, but aberrant one

819
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Speaker 1: off conduct. It's one thing if it's systemic and not caught,

820
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Speaker 1: and there's a there has to be accountability for that.

821
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Speaker 1: But who man, it's a bad it's a bad day

822
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Speaker 1: for the bureau um. I don't think there's any way

823
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: around that. And I don't know who it's tough, folks.

824
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Speaker 1: Given the week we just had as a country, well

825
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: we all just went through. We saw, we heard the videos,

826
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Speaker 1: the footage, everything, and I was really hoping, just for

827
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Speaker 1: the purpose of a bit of psychological recuperation, we just

828
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: moved past it today and then this happens the FBI. Hey,

829
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Speaker 1: I mean they they came clean, So I guess there's

830
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Speaker 1: that's a good sign at least for some sense of accountability.

831
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Speaker 1: But I don't know how they can miss a more

832
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Speaker 1: obvious one than this. This is this is Hey. I

833
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: think a guy across the street is trying to build

834
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Speaker 1: a truck bomb. Here's his name. I've seen photos of it.

835
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: You can check it out online. He's been posting stuff

836
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: about how he wants to build a truck bomb. You

837
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: really should check this out. And the FBI doesn't. It

838
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: doesn't even begin to look at it, see something, say something.

839
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Speaker 1: Come on, what do you think ben't too harsh? Not

840
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: harsh enough? What are we to make of this? The

841
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: backle at the bureau eight four eight four, four to

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00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: eight to five. We'll be right back herb in New Jersey.

843
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Bucks Acton show. Sir, dude, how are you?

844
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 1: I'm good, dude, how are you? I'm doing pretty good? Hey, listen,

845
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: I wants your opinion on this possible scenario. So, um

846
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: Muller was charged with investigating the possibility of Russian interference

847
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: in our election, and lo and behold, today we get

848
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 1: these indictments charging these individuals and organizations with violating various

849
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: laws relating to the conduct of our election and other charges. Um. So,

850
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Speaker 1: out of gratitude for a job well done, President Trump

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Speaker 1: UH declares the investigation successfully completed and rewards Mueller with

852
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: an appointment to replace Ray as director of the FBI,

853
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: with the charge of cleaning up the mess that currently

854
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: embroils the FBI because of things like the botched UH

855
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: Clinton email investigation and the UH the Docier debacle that

856
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: led to potentially bogus spice a warrant. And now look

857
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: at this mess in Parkland, Florida, where they dropped the

858
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: ball and should have at least paid this guy a

859
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: visit to talk to him. So is there is there

860
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: a question in their herbari? Well, I want to know

861
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 1: what do you think of that? Of all that stuff

862
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: they mean, all the things you're talking about. Well, yeah,

863
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: I mean, here's here's my My suggestion was, suppose Trump

864
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: declares that we have a successfully completed the investigation into

865
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: Russian meddling in our election, the indictments that were issued today.

866
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: But he can't. He can't that that doesn't work because

867
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Speaker 1: the Mueller probe is still ongoing and Mueller has already

868
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 1: said that. Okay, well I missed that part. I'm just

869
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: thinking that. You know, all along we've been hearing that

870
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: the Russians medal, the Russians medal, the Mustans medal, and

871
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: and now we have the proofs of the Russians medal

872
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: and uh. In his statement today we heard, um, uh,

873
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: what's that guy's uh? The deputy director Rosenstein. Rosenstein made

874
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 1: a very uh appointed statement that there were no and

875
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: it's in the indictment also, there there were no US

876
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: citizens who were knowing participants. Yeah, winning versus unwitting is

877
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: the terms is the term they use. Yeah, right, it's

878
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: no collusion. Yeah. But but did you hear my whole

879
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,479
Speaker 1: thing herb about yet? Because the Left is not given

880
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,439
Speaker 1: up on this. They're just saying they haven't proven it yet.

881
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: And what Rosenstein said is that, yeah, there's nothing in

882
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: this indictment about that, but there could be another indictment

883
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: or even a superseding indictment with more of it. I

884
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: hear you her, but I appreciate you calling it from

885
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: New Jersey, and thank you for sharing your thoughts here

886
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: on the show. All right, Mark in Waynesboro, Virginia. Hey, Mark,

887
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: Hey Buck, it's a pleasure to talk to you. Hey. So,

888
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: in America, there used to be a time when men

889
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: that were in the high positions of power, whether they

890
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: were generals or government officials, if seventeen innocent, precious American

891
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: children died on their watch, at a bare minimum, that

892
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: individual would resign, and in some cases, out of honor,

893
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: that individual would go out into the woodshed in the

894
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: backyard and either hang themselves or shoot themselves. Now, we

895
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,959
Speaker 1: had an athletic director and a football coach down there

896
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: in um Florida that, without a second thought, gave their

897
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: life to protect those innocent kids. But look at the

898
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: classlessness of Director Ray. Look at the complete despicable behavior

899
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: of all of these bureaucrats in Washington, d C. They

900
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: have proven that not only are they corrupt, but they

901
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: have absolutely no interest or desire whatsoever to do their

902
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 1: job to protect the American people. And that's with a

903
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: budget of money that is an un goodly sum of

904
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: money to any of us. You had asked if you

905
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: thought that he should resign or if somebody lower down

906
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: the chain should be held accountable. What's astonishing, Buck is

907
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: no one has been held accountable yet, and you and

908
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: I both know, Buck, that no one will be held accountable,

909
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: and any absence of honorable men in this fraudulent federal

910
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: government in Washington, d C. The American people are gonna

911
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: do nothing but suffer under this joke of a federal

912
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: government of here. Mark, I appreciate you calling him, and

913
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: I will say that I think that Nicholas Cruise will

914
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: be held accountable, but that will be not nearly enough

915
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: justice under the circumstances. Um, we gotta roll into a

916
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: quick break here, folks. When we come back, we will

917
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: have much more. By the way, if you want to

918
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: throw any thoughts at me on Russia, on the FBI's

919
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: mess up here, or even if you eat Friday, you

920
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: can give me an action movie quote if you're so inclined.

921
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: I was hoping to have a bit of a lighter

922
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: show today, but the news conspired against me. The news

923
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: colluded against me. We'll be back alright, Team lines are lit.

924
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: Let's get to them. We have Todd in Greenboro. Hey Todd, Hey,

925
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: how are you doing books? I'm all right, thank you

926
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: for your call. I just want to ask, freaking what's

927
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: the last color want from this government? Three fifty freaking

928
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: million people in this freaking country, and what he wants

929
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: to he want He wants somebody to control everybody. What

930
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do? But on top of that,

931
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: the shooting, how are you going to correct it? It's

932
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: all pointing fingers one way or another. Oh, it's his fault. No,

933
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: it's their fault. No, it's it's your fault, homie, it's

934
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:17,439
Speaker 1: your fault. Freaking The American public needs to realize it's

935
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: your fault. These are your kids out here pulling triggers,

936
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: freaking because you are weak. Well, I mean maybe it's

937
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: it's I think you could say that it's it's our

938
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: responsibility to keep our children safe. It's the fault of

939
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: the shooter. Nicholas Cruz and I do think that there is, uh,

940
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: there's reasonable criticism of the FBI is failure to follow

941
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: up on a very specific tip about exactly what happened here.

942
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: But there's a currently an environment of every running around

943
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: just trying to hang whatever their political issue is on

944
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: this like a Christmas tree. I mean, it's just terrible.

945
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: I mean there there's so much grandstanding and nonsense and

946
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: that's not helpful at all. And and looking even when

947
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I know I had I had guests on

948
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: yesterday talking about greater security at schools. Here's here's just

949
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: something that's just reality. I'm sure, And I know you

950
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: know this, Todd. Somebody has an Air fifteen and they're

951
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: planning out a a mass slaughter of civilians and they know,

952
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: they know the area well, they know the target well,

953
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: they understand who's gonna be there, where they're gonna be,

954
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: and they're just trying to kill in us in people.

955
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: You could have had fifty arm guards there and at

956
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: best you might have had a faster response time and

957
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: a fewer casualties. But people were almost there was no

958
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: way that you weren't going to take casualties once the

959
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: shooter got on the grounds and had an air fifteen

960
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: in his hands. It's just it's just not realistic to

961
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: think otherwise. Correct. But can I ask a question, yes, sir,

962
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: is it is it a question of security or is

963
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: it the question of your government? Well, I mean, well

964
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: it kind of rolls in together. But I mean security

965
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: in schools. We put more security on our in our

966
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:06,959
Speaker 1: banking system than we do on our children. I mean,

967
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: who are the greatest teachers. Who are the greatest teachers

968
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: in America? That's one question. That would be American special Forces.

969
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: They jump into other countries and teach them how to

970
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: kill people. They are the greatest teachers in America. Now

971
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: you've got retired freaking green Berets all over the East Coast,

972
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: all over America. Could you not put them in a school,

973
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: have them have a weapon on them, and they could

974
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: stop this mess. It's security, it's not freaking your government.

975
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: What are we doing? What are we doing? Well? The answers,

976
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: I think, by the way, Todd, we're not going to

977
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: do very much. I think we're probably gonna do nothing

978
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: in the aftermath of this. That's different from what we're

979
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: already doing. I appreciate you calling in. I appreciate your passion.

980
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. Have a good weekend. Al in Colorado,

981
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: welcome to box section show shields high buck sheels high Al.

982
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: I want to offer a solution. Um. First of all,

983
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: they are they all just stop giving every federal employee

984
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: uh an automatic uh employment until retirement. You have to

985
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: be able to fire them, and they can't. Yeah, civil

986
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: service firing is almost impossible. I've talked to you about

987
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: this before. If you if you show up on time

988
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,919
Speaker 1: for your job, leave on time, and don't break the law,

989
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: it is very hard to fire a civil servant, right

990
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: and don't punch your boss in the nose. Uh. That

991
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: my solution. My solution is, you know the problem. The

992
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: problem lies in that, uh, you notify the FBI that

993
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: so and so is is a bad guy. Yeah, goes

994
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: out and says, howdy, um, what you're doing? He says nothing,

995
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: jef I can't do anything because he hasn't done anything yet. Well,

996
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: that that's a good point. That's what I've been saying.

997
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: Let's let's say al that that the FBI had not

998
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: let's say the FBI had not failed to as it

999
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: as it admits, failed to uh follow protocol here and

1000
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: they had met with Nicholas Cruz. They sat down with

1001
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: him and they said, hey, we see all this stuff.

1002
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: We're hearing some very bad things about you. They can't

1003
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: lock him up based on anything that I have seen

1004
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: and and so, if he's really committed to this. He

1005
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: may say, oh, wow, the FBI visited me. They're on

1006
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: to me. You know, I better go that they can't.

1007
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: And then people have said things like, why can't we

1008
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: put them under surveillance? You're you're not gonna put every

1009
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: every whacko in the country under twenty four hour surveillance

1010
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: because you just can't. You don't have the resources of

1011
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: the time, of the manpower. There's no way you'd be

1012
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: able to pull that off. And you also then get

1013
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: into whole question about, well, how can you put somebody

1014
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: under twenty four hour surveillance that they haven't actually committed

1015
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: a crime yet. These are the problems of living in

1016
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 1: a free society, my friends. You know, the rule of

1017
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: law sometimes means that things like this are are complicated. Buck,

1018
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: I've got a solution. Here's my solution. Okay, um authorize

1019
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: these i FBI guys when they when they go out

1020
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: and they find this young man um and he is

1021
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: a he is a man at nineteen, he's definitely a

1022
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: man um. And you take him and you put him

1023
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: in the car and you drive up to the nearest

1024
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: prison and they're all over health half acres. You take

1025
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: him to the nearest prison and you say we're just

1026
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: going for a visit, and you're walking through there and

1027
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: you show him these miscreants in the prison and say

1028
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,959
Speaker 1: which which one would you like to be the voice

1029
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: toy for? This is? This is some version I think

1030
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: al of the I believe it's MTV, and I'll thank

1031
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: you for Colinger from Colorado. I believe it was MTV

1032
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: that did a version of a did a show called

1033
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: Scared Straight where they would bring juvenile delinquents into a

1034
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 1: very frightening prison and have them I mean, I remember

1035
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: watching this, so I know it's a thing. I think

1036
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: it was called Scared Straight. But they would scream at

1037
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: them in prison to get the juvenile delinquents to stop there.

1038
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: They're delinquent ways basically, and they had guys who I mean,

1039
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: I remember that there was some very uh how do

1040
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: I put this, Some some salty language was used by

1041
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: the convicts to really to really bring the point home. Um,

1042
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: I want to there's a little bit of a feud

1043
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: going on right now, a feud brewering that while has

1044
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: some fun with here where CNN is calling out by

1045
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: name on TV one of your I'm guessing favorite senators.

1046
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,919
Speaker 1: Certainly i'd say, he's in your top fifty senators for sure,

1047
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: maybe your top five, maybe your favorite, but definitely your

1048
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: top fifty. Who is that senator? And what is the feud?

1049
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: If you stay through the break, you will find out

1050
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: all these things. So I just want to tell you

1051
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: a bit about how CNN likes to present the gun

1052
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: control debate on on on air. I remember many years ago,

1053
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: after the new Town shooting, a friend of mine was

1054
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: asked by producers overseas before I worked there. I don't know.

1055
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: I was asked at CNN to present the pro Second

1056
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: Amendment point of view, and he was on a show

1057
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: with a live audience. They didn't tell him that. They

1058
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: also didn't tell him that during the show he would

1059
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: be asked to stand up and give the second time

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Speaker 1: a point of view surrounded with the parents of Newtown victims.

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Speaker 1: That was how they wanted to, you know, structure things.

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Speaker 1: They thought that was the way to go. That wouldn't

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Speaker 1: in any way influence his feelings about making his point

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Speaker 1: of view. They would have parents standing next to him

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Speaker 1: who are crying, understand Annalie, who were heartbroken about what

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Speaker 1: had happened, and he was supposed to be the one

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Speaker 1: defending the right to bare arms standing right next to them.

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Speaker 1: That was how they that was how they wanted to

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Speaker 1: do it, CNN, and that was Piers Morgan's show. By

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Speaker 1: the way, if you're wondering, um, which I'm sure's no

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Speaker 1: surprise to any of you, that Piers Morgan would take

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Speaker 1: that approach, he is. He is aggressively ignorant on the

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Speaker 1: issue of gun control and the Second Amendment UM, and

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Speaker 1: still weighs in on this issue all the time. He

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Speaker 1: might be great on other things, he might be a

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Speaker 1: really nice dude. I don't know. The point is he's

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Speaker 1: not right in the Second Amendment. Uh. But CNN also

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Speaker 1: wants to go after people like Ted Cruz, for example,

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Speaker 1: and say that Ted Cruz is well, we have the clip.

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Speaker 1: We invited Republican Senators Marco Rubio ted Cruz while he's

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Speaker 1: from Texas, because he talks about this issue a lot.

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Speaker 1: We invited the governor to come on the show this morning.

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Speaker 1: They declined. We say, let's get after it. It's not

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Speaker 1: a slogan, it's an approach. You have to take these

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Speaker 1: issues on. You gotta ask the tough questions. You must

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Speaker 1: be held accountable. Rubio says this is an inexplicable tragedy

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Speaker 1: that couldn't be less true. Governor Scott is actively fighting

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Speaker 1: right now to penalize doctors who even asked patients in

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Speaker 1: their state if they have firearms? Where are they? They

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Speaker 1: will come on here, They're on Fox News this morning,

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Speaker 1: the mother Ship, so they won't be pressed about gun control.

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Speaker 1: What are they afraid of? Yes, what are they afraid of? Well,

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Speaker 1: here's the problem with that. Mm hmmm, the whole issue. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Ted Cruz says that he gave a fifteen minute exclusive

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Speaker 1: interview to CNN that they just never aired. So it

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01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: seems pretty unfair, doesn't it to have a CNN anchor

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Speaker 1: saying that Ted Cruise is scared to talk about gun rights.

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Speaker 1: Notice how gun control is what some people say, gun

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Speaker 1: rights is what other people said. The language always gives

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01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: you such a a sense of which side of the

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Speaker 1: issue one person is going to be on. Ted Cruz

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Speaker 1: had appeared or had called, and they just didn't use

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Speaker 1: the interview. I would note that I had the I

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Speaker 1: had the experience of doing a CNN show for Brian

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Speaker 1: Stelter once, an interview on terrorism, and Stelter thought he

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Speaker 1: had a big gotcha moment, and it was because I

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01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 1: said that something was Islamic terrorism and it was going

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01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: to be that it was too early. It turns out

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Speaker 1: I was just right. Uh, and they gave me the

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Speaker 1: they did. We did the whole interview, and it was

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Speaker 1: supposed to air on a Sunday. We interviewed on Friday.

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01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 1: They just never told me anything, never aired it, and

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01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 1: pretended that there was breaking news on a Sunday, which

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01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 1: is why they couldn't arrow it. You see, these are

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01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 1: the games fake news plays. This is this is how

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01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 1: they operate, folks. It's all journalism, integrity and honesty when

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01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: it suits them to say so, but when it comes

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01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: down to it, it's just all a show. It's not journalism,

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01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: it's activism, and they're always trying to protect some very

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Speaker 1: fragile egos and very flimsy intellects over there. Nonetheless, I

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01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: would love to see Ted Cruise go on go on

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01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 1: CNN and talk on control with any of their anchors.

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Speaker 1: It would be a wipeout. My advice to any of

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Speaker 1: those CNN anchors would be, uh, save yourself the humiliation,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure I have a feeling they will. But

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Speaker 1: this was not just some one off thing. They actually

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01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: were running a graphic on tv UM, so they were

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Speaker 1: presenting it as though it were news. Unwilling CNN ran

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Speaker 1: a graphic unwilling to appear on CNN. What are they

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Speaker 1: afraid of? This was a full screen on CNN's air

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01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: national channel across the country. Governor Rick Scott center mark

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01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 1: of Rubio, Senator Ted Cruz, and Ted Cruz is like,

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01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: that's bull I'll come on your show and it's I'm

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01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,759
Speaker 1: talking about this issue. In fact, I did for fifteen

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Speaker 1: minutes an interview already with you, and you just chose

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Speaker 1: not to run it. And now you're gonna call me

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01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: a coward? How much dirtier and more dishonest do you

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01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: think they can really get? Kind of makes you wonder,

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01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 1: isn't it. Mike and Alabama got some thoughts? What's up, sir?

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01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: Kay Bugus? Is Mike and Alabama shield tied? Mike? I

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01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 1: don't know. In regards to the Florida shooting, I don't

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01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,480
Speaker 1: know if there's a direct way it would be applicable.

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01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: But I do know that in Florida they have a

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Speaker 1: thing called the Baker Act, and uh it allows for

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01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 1: involuntary Uh. I don't know if it's incarceration, institutionalization I

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01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: think is the word you might be looking for, Yeah,

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01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: for someone that's got mental health issues, And it doesn't

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01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: necessarily mean they've committed a crime of any sort yet.

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Speaker 1: Uh from what I understand, both of the the guy's

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01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: parents were deceased, so that may have been a reason

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01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: why they it and go with the Baker Act. But

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01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: I think lawenforcement can initiate that as well. I could

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01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 1: be wrong. No, there there is and and Mike, I

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01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 1: won't pretend to be an expert in a in a

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01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 1: legal process or the specifics of its state by state,

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01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: but there I know there are ways that you can

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01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 1: have somebody involuntarily committed to a mental institution if they

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Speaker 1: proved to be a harm to themselves or to others.

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01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,600
Speaker 1: But that is a it is a high bar, and

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01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 1: I have to say it's generally with with very good reason.

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Speaker 1: That's a high bar, right, I mean, could you imagine

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01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 1: people that just need some help, You wouldn't want them

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Speaker 1: to be uh sent away to a mental institution. And

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Speaker 1: also it leaves a mark on on a person's record.

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01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: You will never be able to get a gun after that, legally,

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01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: you will never so it's there, but it's it's tricky

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Speaker 1: with this guy. Do I think that there probably could

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Speaker 1: have been a case I'd have to bring a psychiatrist

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Speaker 1: with with background and how the state functions on this

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Speaker 1: on the show, My my gut tells me that you

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Speaker 1: probably could get this guy, uh sent away for and

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Speaker 1: sent away to a mental I mean, you know, not

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01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 1: we before the shooting, it would have been sent away

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Speaker 1: to get help. Now it's you know, sent away for life,

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Speaker 1: if not into the into a lethal injection room. But

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Speaker 1: at this point, yeah, at this point, but beforehand, it

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Speaker 1: would have been sent away to get them help. And

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Speaker 1: and I think that it's there, but I look, it

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01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:22,600
Speaker 1: used to be a lot easier to do that, and

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Speaker 1: they've changed the law of the a c l U

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01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: has fought like mad against involuntary institutionalization, uh, you know,

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01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 1: to to elevate the standards. It's one of the reason

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Speaker 1: why I mean, look, I'm here in New York City

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Speaker 1: and I see severely mentally ill people. They're usually uh

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Speaker 1: the home, they're usually homeless, and you see them and

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01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: they're doing things on the street, and it's very clear

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01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: they're severely mentally ill. But unless they're a danger to

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01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: themselves or others. You generally can't get them committed. And

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Speaker 1: part of the problem is that by the time it's

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Speaker 1: clear they're a danger to themselves or others, it's too late,

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01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Sometimes the first time it's

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01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 1: clear is when they've you know, cracked a rock over

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01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 1: some old lady's head for no reason. So it's and

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Speaker 1: there's no there's that. I keep saying this because it's true.

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Speaker 1: There's no easy answers. Mike Alright, Rock and Roll, thank

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Speaker 1: you for calling him my friend. I appreciate it. Good

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Speaker 1: to talk to you and have have a good weekend. Um,

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01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 1: and it's it has been quite a week. You noticely

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Speaker 1: that they don't talk about this very much either. The

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Speaker 1: markets actually had a really good week. I feel like

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Speaker 1: last week everybody was, oh my gosh, the bottom is

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01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 1: falling out of the market. What are we gonna do Now,

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01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, yeah, it's it's coming back, It'll be all

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01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 1: It'll be all right. That's good, that's a good thing.

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01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find the positives. Oh, CNN reporting playmates

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01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,600
Speaker 1: alleged affair with the president. I haven't read this. Have

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Speaker 1: you guys read the story yet? Oh you have all right,

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Speaker 1: I'll have to read. I didn't read this one today.

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01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 1: I was busy with the Russia and the and the

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01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: FBI stuff. Um this this is one of these things

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Speaker 1: where the media will I'm not gonna say it's not

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01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 1: a story, but they're gonna run with a story for

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01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: as long as they can. And I think this affects

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01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: the Trump base. I think it's probably a zero one

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01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 1: way or the other. I don't think they care. Nope,

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Speaker 1: So we will see. Uh, this is just kind of

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01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: where we are now and the way we deal with

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01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 1: political not political scandals, politicians personal scandals, you know, whether

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01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 1: you believe it or not, still is just not going

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01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 1: to have an effect. Things have changed quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: We will talk about immigration coming up, because I think

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Speaker 1: that that is a subject that we can get some

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01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: greater clarity on after it was so pushed aside this

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Speaker 1: week with some of the other major events that had happened.

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Speaker 1: We'll also have a friend joined to talk to us

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Speaker 1: about an interesting program in well a research that shows

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Speaker 1: that school choice may help lessen criminality, which you can

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Speaker 1: imagine that I have all kinds of interesting discussions going forward.

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Speaker 1: I wish that they'd get back on uh school choice

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01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 1: issue at the the national level. It has not been

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01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: something that's been a part of Trump's agenda. And we

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01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: will have some of your thoughts via roll call. We'll

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01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: have kind of an extended session. We'll spend at least

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01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,799
Speaker 1: a solid segment of roll call coming up. It reminds

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Speaker 1: me by the way Facebook dot com slash buck sex

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Speaker 1: in if you want to share thoughts. Also, we always

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Speaker 1: post stories and more on buck Sexton dot com. Please

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01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 1: do check it out. We'll be getting into that and

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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of other things. And then by the

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Speaker 1: time our third hour has done, folks and you listen

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01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,719
Speaker 1: to it, your weekend gets to begin. So that's exciting.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Hey, everybody, I just want to

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Speaker 1: take a moment to say before our before I bring

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01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 1: in some esteemed guests here. I just find it so

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01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: disappointing the way people get so nasty to each other

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01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 1: over the whole Russia investigation thing, and particularly look, I

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01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 1: expect the left to act like a bunch of maniacs.

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01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 1: A lot of them of stake their their careers at

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01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: some level, not really, I mean people will forget, but

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01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 1: they stake their credibility on their being really an impeachment

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01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:10,679
Speaker 1: that comes out of all this. They think they're gonna

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01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 1: take the media, believe they're gonna make right the election

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01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 1: by taking down the Trump presidency with this narrative that

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Speaker 1: will lead to an impeachment. So there's a lot of

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01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on here, but it just bums

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Speaker 1: me out to see the different people who are involved

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01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 1: in all this, who are just uh, just nasty. And

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Speaker 1: their conservatives, Yeah, they somehow believe this, They've somehow bought

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Speaker 1: into this, and they refer to other conservatives as as

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Speaker 1: Trumpists or Trumpers because they don't think that the president

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Speaker 1: United States had some hatch, some conspiracy with the Russians.

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Speaker 1: That just the whole thing is so nuts, and it

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Speaker 1: is you know, it is problematic. It is troubling. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it is really bothersome to me that we have reached

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Speaker 1: this point now where you can't even really have a

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Speaker 1: civilized discussion about this. You can't even you know, you

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Speaker 1: have uh, you have Adam Schiff making quite clear what

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Speaker 1: the real goal is here. Play clib seven for me

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Speaker 1: for a second. The president's conduct was so incompatible with

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Speaker 1: office that they needed to vote to remove him. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it is going to be important for people to know

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Speaker 1: that that was not something that we were seeking from

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Speaker 1: the very beginning because of what this will put the

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Speaker 1: country through. So I think early talk about impeachment before

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01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 1: we finished our investigation um makes that case more difficult

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01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 1: if the evidence comes to support it, and we need

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Speaker 1: to let Bob Mueller do his job. A big part

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01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 1: of what I consider my job right now is making

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01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 1: sure or we stay the hell out of Bob Mother's way.

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Speaker 1: Because they want to impeach Trump. I mean, this is

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01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 1: it is, This starts to get to be pretty preposterous here.

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01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 1: I mean, they there's a reason. There's a reason that

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01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 1: they're so set on this Mueller investigation. So so we

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01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: know that some Russians, some Russians have been indicted and

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01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 1: it's not going to change anything. There mightn't even to

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01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 1: die some more Russians. Not gonna change And we've we've

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01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: known about this for a long time. We have been

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01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 1: hearing about Russia interference in the election for a year

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01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: and a half. And you'll notice no one ever has

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01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: some policy in mind for it, no one ever has

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01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 1: a solution they want to talk about. This is just

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01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 1: all about Trump. Which I can kind of handle at

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01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 1: some level, But I also feel like, you know, because

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01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 1: I know I expect this, but I just feel like,

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01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 1: what's with these conservatives? They really would rather they want

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01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 1: they want to they want to be right on this

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01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: one in that Trump portrayed his country. That would make

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01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 1: them feel better. They'd be happier with the future in

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01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 1: which we have I guess a Pence by the way,

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01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 1: It's not like they would accept Pence as a replacement

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01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 1: for Trump. If in fact they did repeat and removed

1302
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 1: from from office, they would say the whole thing was illegitimate.

1303
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 1: They they would uh, it would cause a crisis of

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01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,520
Speaker 1: governance and a crisis of confidence in our governing institutions

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01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 1: in this country, the likes of which certainly has never

1306
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 1: occurred before in my lifetime. But it's just disappointing. There's

1307
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 1: a there's a childishness in the media on this issue

1308
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 1: that it's it's just gross. It feels icky. Anyway, we're

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01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 1: gonna talk more about what's going on with immigration here

1310
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 1: in a second. I've I've been saying to you that,

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01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, some big stuff happened this week on the

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01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 1: issue of immigration. It's not like this just we should

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01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 1: just skip over it. So I wanted to bring in

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01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: our friend Marker Corey and from the Center from Immigration Studies.

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01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 1: I know, Friday, and we're gonna be talking policy kind

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01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 1: of late on a Friday. But yeah, hey, we're we're

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01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 1: always we're always focused on what matters here, folks, or

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01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 1: at least most of the time. Sometimes not really. When

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01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm screaming and pretending to be a journalist yelling at

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01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 1: at Trump, maybe that's not or or my Sorrows impression, which,

1321
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 1: by the way, I feel like I don't get enough appreciation.

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01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 1: I think my Sorrows is pretty good. Like I think

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01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 1: it's if you listen to Sorrows, don't know, he's sort

1324
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 1: of enough sounds like these, and he has you can

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01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 1: talk about the markets and the things that the market

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01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 1: is doing, and I feel like that's kind of listen

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01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:38,799
Speaker 1: to some Sorrows audio. That's pretty close. It's not perfect. Gosh,

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01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:43,520
Speaker 1: everyone's a critic. Yeah, it's like somehow my Hillary impersonation,

1329
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 1: which sounds nothing like Hillary. Everyone is like your spot

1330
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 1: on you know, somehow that's perfect. But my Sorrows, which

1331
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 1: which if I called you and let the message on

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01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 1: your machine and you may in fact, believe was sorrows.

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01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,639
Speaker 1: You're just you're you're rejected that one. It's just not fair, folks,

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01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 1: It's just not fair at all. Oh, Sonny, we've got

1335
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,600
Speaker 1: my thank you, my Bernie Bernie Sands. I wish you

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01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 1: would run again, just so I could do Bernie all

1337
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 1: the time. But like, hey, it's Bernie's night, and the

1338
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 1: mood is right for socialism. You know, we'd have so

1339
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 1: much fun with the burn. I kind of missed the burn.

1340
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 1: He was a great character to work into things him.

1341
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 1: And if you remember Janet Politano, big sis, you know,

1342
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:31,639
Speaker 1: talking about Homeland, talking about the border strip searching guys

1343
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 1: that are trying to get drugs in the country, and

1344
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 1: the whole thing Janet to Politano. You know, there's a

1345
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 1: whole bunch of a whole bunch of different characters. Alright, alright,

1346
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into some serious stuff in a minute.

1347
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 1: We've got our friend marcret Corey and joining also. I

1348
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 1: wanted to bring in a friend and a contributor to

1349
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 1: the Federalist Enis Felcher, who's gonna talk about how school

1350
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 1: choice has a has been shown. It's not proven yet.

1351
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 1: There's some studies show dramatic impact on crime as in

1352
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 1: reduces it very much. We will get into that and

1353
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 1: much more in just a couple of minutes. Your team,

1354
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 1: stay with me. I am optimistic. One of the reasons

1355
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 1: why I'm so optimistic as the President did something that

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01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 1: many of us found surprising and very intriguing. He said

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Speaker 1: that he was willing to support a path of citizenship,

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01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 1: a twelve year path of citizenship for Dakas for these dreamers.

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01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 1: So is immigration reform dead or not? Where are with

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Speaker 1: with all this? We've got somebody who can shed a

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01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 1: lot of light on this. We have Marker Corey and

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01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 1: with this he is from the Center for Immigration Studies

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Speaker 1: c i S dot org. He's the executive director. Mark.

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Speaker 1: Always good to have you on the program. I'm glad

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01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,640
Speaker 1: to be here. Than our first keys update us on

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01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: what happened in the immigration kind of got pushed aside,

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01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 1: even though it's probably the single most important policy issue

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01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 1: facing the Trump administration right now. Kind of push aside

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01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 1: this week. But some stuff happened. What happened this week

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Speaker 1: with Congress, Well, the President had a submit, did some

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Speaker 1: an outline of what he would like Congress to pass um.

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01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 1: In other words, amnestying the Dreamers, and he actually increased

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01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: it to amnestying up to almost two million people, not

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01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:16,680
Speaker 1: just the one with the DOCCA work permits from Obama's

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01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 1: illegal program, but a million extra. These are people who

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01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 1: came here illegal, but they came as minors. Um. He

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01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 1: sweet tried to sweeten the deal by by adding up

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Speaker 1: by asking for an amnesty for almost two million people

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Speaker 1: in exchange for changes to chain migration policy so that

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Speaker 1: only husband's wives and little kids can be brought here

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01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 1: from abroad, not other relatives, getting rid of the visa lottery,

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01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 1: which is literally a lottery we give green cards out

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01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 1: at random to people across the world. And funding for

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01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: the wall, and other enforcement measures. That was a package.

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01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 1: Congress in the Senate specifically had four measures. One of

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01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 1: them was that, and then several couple others that were

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01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 1: much weaker. Brought them all up for a vote. What

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01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:07,679
Speaker 1: the majority leader in the Senate said is, look, let's

1389
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: just have a free for all here. Whatever you guys

1390
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 1: can put together, bring it up for a vote. See

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01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 1: if it gets the sixty votes it needs to pass

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01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:20,600
Speaker 1: the filibuster rule. All four measures failed. This was on Thursday.

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01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 1: None of them passed, and the Senate basically has decided that,

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01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 1: you know, they're finished with this, They've got other things

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01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:31,600
Speaker 1: to do, and now it's up I guess, to the

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Speaker 1: House of Representatives to see if they passed something that

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Speaker 1: amnesties these DACA young people. They're not kids, but the

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01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:43,759
Speaker 1: twenties and thirty year olds illegal immigrants. Um and UM.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of where it is now. So, but even

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Speaker 1: if the House does pass something, it still has to

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01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 1: get through the Senate, right, so it seems it seems

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01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 1: to be pretty unlikely Mark that this is actually going anywhere. Yeah,

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01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 1: I think it is quite frankly and um. The reason

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01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 1: there was of an urgency to do something about this

1405
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:07,600
Speaker 1: is that the President canceled the DOCCA program, which was

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01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 1: illegal to begin with. Under Obama, President said he was

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01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 1: gonna pull the plug on it on day one. He

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01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 1: waited till day two hundred, but he finally did pull

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01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 1: the plug on it, and March, the beginning of March

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01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 1: is when the program expires, because they gave him a

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Speaker 1: grace period and people would start losing their work permits.

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01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 1: So there was this idea that they had to get

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Speaker 1: it done by them. Well, several court rulings outrageous. Court

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01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 1: rulings actually said the president couldn't do that, um, in

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Speaker 1: the words, he couldn't cancel a memo, that's all. It

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01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 1: was a memo from a previous administration. Supreme Court's going

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Speaker 1: to strike those down almost certainly. So at some point,

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Speaker 1: people with work permits are gonna start losing the work

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01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 1: perments they're gonna expire. And I think once that happens,

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01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 1: maybe there'll be some more interest in doing something on this,

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01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 1: but probably not so. I think, um, they're the What

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01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 1: this really boiled down to is that the Democrats and

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Speaker 1: some of their Republican pro immigration allies valued keeping chain

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Speaker 1: migration very high. In other words, they were unwilling to

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01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 1: cut immigration by a couple hundred thousand a year rather

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01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 1: than amnesty. You know, these young people who grew up here.

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01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 1: They made the choice that it was more important to

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01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 1: them to let these young people who grew up here

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01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: lose their work permits and go back to becoming regular

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01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 1: illegal aliens than it was to um reduce immigration back

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01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 1: to the level it was in the nineteen eighties. It's

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Speaker 1: not even very radical. We're speaking to market Corey and

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Speaker 1: executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies here, Mark,

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01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 1: can you give me some clarity on what we know

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Speaker 1: about illegal immigrants specifically and crime and what person? Because

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01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:59,799
Speaker 1: I've seen some articles here and there that are saying

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Speaker 1: that like a large percentage of federal crimes are committed

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Speaker 1: by illegal aliens. Do do we have good data on that?

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01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 1: What can you tell me about the numbers? There's nobody

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01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 1: has good data on this. Their studies all over the place,

1441
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 1: but none of the data is particularly good. And what, um,

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01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 1: the there's no questions that illegal immigrants make up a

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01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 1: hugely disproportionate share of the federal prison population. But remember

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01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 1: most people in jail are in state prisons. That's where

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01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 1: most of the crimes are punished. Not you're a burglar,

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01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 1: you stab somebody, you go to state prison, right exactly. Um.

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01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 1: That having been said, there's been research that suggests immigrants

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01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 1: might be less likely to be involved in crime. But again,

1449
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 1: the data is terrible on this. It people don't want

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01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 1: to know. The FBI does not do a good job

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01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 1: of collecting data on this one. Does A recent report

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01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 1: by a scholar named John Lott l O. T T

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01:27:57,479 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 1: who has done a lot of work on the gun.

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01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know John, we thought him on the show. Yeah,

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01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 1: he got a data source from Arizona which specifically, in

1456
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: other words, from their state prison that specifically does ask

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01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 1: legal status, and he found a very disproportionate rate of

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01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 1: criminal activity on the part of illegal immigrants specifically. So

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01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 1: that's an important finding, but it's just one finding. This

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01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 1: is something that the powers that be literally don't want

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01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,759
Speaker 1: to know the answer. Well, that was my next question.

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Speaker 1: How is it possible, Mark, that we have people who

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01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 1: are in custody and yet we don't have numbers about

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01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 1: how many of those who are in the government's custody

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01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 1: are actually illegal aliens. That just seems unfathomable to me.

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Speaker 1: They keep all kinds of data on the prison population. Yeah,

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01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm not saying they don't know in

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01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 1: each individual case. But remember, if you know a fact

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01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 1: about the various people you arrest, but you don't enter

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01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 1: it into your compute system, then it doesn't matter. If

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Speaker 1: it's on a piece of paper, no, one can never

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01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 1: really know it. You can't use that data for analysis.

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01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 1: It's kind of like with these DOCA people we were

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01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 1: talking about, a lot of them used translators to sell

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01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 1: out their applications. They were supposedly they're so assimilated, they're

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01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 1: so Americanized, that we need to give them citizenship. And

1477
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:23,640
Speaker 1: yet a lot of them don't even know English, and

1478
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 1: so we would be good to know what percentage don't

1479
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 1: know English. You know what it's on the form, but

1480
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 1: they never answered it into the computer, so there's no

1481
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 1: way to know. There was a program that there was

1482
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 1: a program mark that was talking about briefly at least

1483
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 1: by the White House earlier this week that would have

1484
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 1: changed the Supplemental Nutritional Nutrition Assistance Program SNAP, better known

1485
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 1: as food stamps, by having a food box essentially as

1486
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 1: part of the benefits. It wouldn't be entirely the equivalent

1487
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 1: of cash, which is what an E B T card

1488
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 1: is right now. And I people are asking me this,

1489
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 1: and I said, look, I don't really have the answer

1490
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 1: for you, and so I wanted to pose it to you.

1491
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 1: Do we have good numbers on on either immigrant usage

1492
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 1: of federal welfare and or illegal alien usage of federal welfare?

1493
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 1: We actually do, and were we seem to be the

1494
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 1: Center for Immigration Studies, seems to be the only people

1495
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 1: who ever used it. Let me explain, there is um

1496
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 1: information from the Census Bureau surveys on whether people have

1497
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 1: used government benefits, but it seems that it was underestimated.

1498
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 1: That's usually where the data comes from. That's what we've

1499
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 1: used at the Center when we report this. Well, there's

1500
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 1: a different survey which for technical reasons is much more

1501
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:40,520
Speaker 1: difficult to use, which specifically is about use of government programs.

1502
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 1: And what we found was we were the first people

1503
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 1: ever looked at that to figure out what immigrant welfare uses.

1504
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 1: We found out that families headed by a foreign born

1505
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:54,719
Speaker 1: person this is legal or illegal, put together, about half

1506
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: of them use at least one government welfare program. Is

1507
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 1: what we found UM and it's really pretty remarkable. Illegal

1508
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 1: immigrants UM are cipher. I don't have the number in

1509
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 1: front of me. It's slightly lower because the illegal immigrants

1510
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 1: themselves are not eligible, but their children are eligible. And

1511
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 1: if you get an E B T card to go

1512
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 1: shop at the grocery store, the four year old is

1513
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 1: not going to the grocery store with that. In other words,

1514
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:23,559
Speaker 1: he's getting you're getting it on his behalf because he's

1515
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:26,679
Speaker 1: a US citizen born here, but he's not doing the show.

1516
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 1: So in illegal can almost be the custodian of the

1517
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:33,559
Speaker 1: federal benefits for the legal child, right, not almost, but literally.

1518
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 1: And it's not like the kid is the only one

1519
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 1: eating the food, you know what I mean. So, so

1520
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 1: these benefits are widely used, even by illegal limrates, and

1521
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 1: it's not because anybody's ripping off the taxpayer. The fact

1522
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:50,799
Speaker 1: is almost all of these families, immigrant families, legal or illegal,

1523
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 1: who are getting government benefits, they're people working in that family.

1524
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 1: It's just that they're a mismatch for our economy. They're

1525
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 1: low skilled people, and they can't earn enough money to

1526
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 1: feed their own children. Literally. So the question is not

1527
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:09,440
Speaker 1: so much how do we keep immigrants from using welfare?

1528
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 1: The more important question is why are we letting people

1529
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:17,719
Speaker 1: in who are incapable of earning enough money to feed

1530
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 1: their own children? And Mark before we let you go.

1531
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,439
Speaker 1: It seems to me that perhaps with the way Trump

1532
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 1: has approached immigration reform up to this point, he may

1533
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 1: have exposed something which which you also alluded to I

1534
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:33,559
Speaker 1: believe before, which is that it's actually not necessarily DACA

1535
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:38,480
Speaker 1: recipients who are the crown jewel of the Democrats immigration

1536
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 1: reform desires. It may actually be chain migration, which I've

1537
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 1: noticed they're now calling family based migration, which is one

1538
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:48,919
Speaker 1: of the terms for it. It's just the chain migration

1539
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 1: is also a long used, normal term which they're trying

1540
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 1: to make, you know, somehow problematic or unpc But no,

1541
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 1: I think you're right. The goal here, or let me

1542
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:04,599
Speaker 1: put it this way, the more important thing is to

1543
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 1: keep immigration going indefinitely into the future. And the DOCCA

1544
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:12,599
Speaker 1: young people, I mean, they're happy that if they could

1545
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 1: get them green cards, sure that they're not against that.

1546
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 1: But if they don't, But I mean, if the price

1547
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:22,800
Speaker 1: of that is giving up an unending flow of immigration

1548
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:24,960
Speaker 1: in the future. Remember last year we had one point

1549
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 1: two million people got green cards. If that's the price,

1550
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 1: if reducing that down to say eight or nine hundred

1551
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 1: thousand or six or seven hundred thousand is if that's

1552
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 1: the price, then they're not going to pay it. They're

1553
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 1: okay with these DOCCA people losing their work permits because

1554
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 1: the more important issue is keeping immigration going indefinitely at

1555
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 1: as a high level as possible. Real quick. You don't

1556
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 1: expect any major legislation immigration this year? Is that fair

1557
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 1: to say? Yeah? I think, I mean I may be wrong,

1558
01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:54,679
Speaker 1: but yeah, if you were. If I were a betting man,

1559
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 1: I would bet lunch on nothing happening. Well, I'm putting

1560
01:33:57,479 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 1: my chips right next years on the table. I think

1561
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 1: the same is true everybody. Marcret Corey and c I

1562
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 1: s dot Org for the Center for Immigration Studies work.

1563
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 1: It's a great site. They do fantastic stuff. Mark, have

1564
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 1: an excellent weekend. Thank you for joining team. We're gonna

1565
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 1: roll into a quick break, will be back with an

1566
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 1: interesting study that very few people know about that I

1567
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:20,840
Speaker 1: think has implications for a lot of stuff when it

1568
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 1: comes to uh schools in this country, and when it

1569
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:27,600
Speaker 1: comes to violence in fact in this country and criminality,

1570
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 1: and how schools can play a role perhaps in lessening

1571
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,679
Speaker 1: all of that. I know I'm speaking in very generic

1572
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:36,600
Speaker 1: terms that because I want our expert to inform you,

1573
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 1: So stay right there, all right. So we talked about

1574
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 1: school choice among conservatives with some regularity. It hasn't gotten

1575
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:45,760
Speaker 1: a lot of attention in the Trump era, but I

1576
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 1: think it's something that we should refocus on, and there

1577
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 1: are actually some research out there that shows that may

1578
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 1: have benefits beyond just the usual test scores, math, reading

1579
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 1: and all of that. It could actually have a much

1580
01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 1: bigger societal impact. But I have to bring on the

1581
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 1: expert to talk about this when we have in s

1582
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:06,240
Speaker 1: felture with us now. She is a contributor to the Federalists,

1583
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 1: and that's great to have you on. Thanks for having me, Buck,

1584
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:12,880
Speaker 1: all right, so tell me about this research. I've heard

1585
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 1: you speak about it briefly before, but apparently it's something

1586
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 1: that ties together behavior and school choice in ways that

1587
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 1: really would matter to broader society, right exactly. I think

1588
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 1: it's it's really important to think about the broader implications.

1589
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 1: I think actually behavioral implications and UM societal or community

1590
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:37,639
Speaker 1: implications are actually a lot more important to our daily

1591
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 1: lives than things like test scores. Although I'm happy to

1592
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 1: go through the evidence that shows a school choice raises

1593
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 1: math and reading scores. UM. The evidence that I want

1594
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 1: to talk to you about today is actually these two

1595
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 1: studies that came out fairly recently, One about a charter

1596
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 1: school in New York in Harlem, and the other about

1597
01:35:56,520 --> 01:36:00,599
Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Bouncer Program, which is the longest running modern

1598
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 1: school choice program in the nation. UM. The first study

1599
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 1: is UH comes from both Harvard and Princeton, a joint

1600
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 1: study UM, and it was on the Promise Academy charter

1601
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 1: school in Harlem, And I actually found that enrolling in

1602
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 1: this charter school versus and match public school student dropped

1603
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 1: the crime rate of the incarceration rates to zero, right,

1604
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 1: so it reduced it by a hundred percent. If we

1605
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 1: were talking about some kind of big government program, right,

1606
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure that that would be on every paper. Um,

1607
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 1: then the New York Times would have a lot to

1608
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 1: say about a big government program that reduced crime by

1609
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:42,559
Speaker 1: a hundred percent. YEA repeat exactly. You're telling me that

1610
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:45,920
Speaker 1: if people enrolled in this students enrolled in this school

1611
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 1: of New York City, the crime reduction for those students

1612
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 1: was a hud. That's pretty astonishing, right for boys, it

1613
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 1: didn't do as much for girls, but it did reduce

1614
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 1: their crime as well. But they commit Girls commit far

1615
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 1: fewer crimes than boys do to begin with. Um, but

1616
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:03,640
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm being woman explained right now. But

1617
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:09,800
Speaker 1: that's okay. We all have our advantages. Um. Anyway. The

1618
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 1: second piece of evidence is a study from the University

1619
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 1: of Arkansas, which has a whole department that studies the

1620
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 1: effects the school choice, and it's on this very long

1621
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 1: running voucher program that started in which is why we

1622
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 1: can actually go ahead and do longitudinal studies on kids

1623
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:28,719
Speaker 1: as they get into their they graduate from high school

1624
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:32,360
Speaker 1: and get into their twenties. Um. And as it turns out,

1625
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 1: there were enormous effects of the Doucher program UM on

1626
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 1: all sorts of criminal measurements, so felony convictions for kids

1627
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:46,280
Speaker 1: in the program versus a match public schools didn't sell

1628
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:52,400
Speaker 1: by almost eighty percent. Okay, drug crime was down by best.

1629
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we get the picture right that

1630
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:58,519
Speaker 1: these are massive effects that we haven't been able to

1631
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 1: replicate with any of the big government programs that we have,

1632
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 1: either in education or UM in the crime prevention arena, right,

1633
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:10,559
Speaker 1: um and and right especially this week, people are asking

1634
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 1: a lot of questions in as about what can we

1635
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:14,640
Speaker 1: do with troubled youth and how do we prevent you know,

1636
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 1: problems from those who slipped through the cracks and everything.

1637
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:21,920
Speaker 1: It sounds like this is at least in an area

1638
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:24,360
Speaker 1: that is worth pursuing more, which is does school choice

1639
01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:30,720
Speaker 1: have an effect a massive dampening effect on violence? Yeah? Absolutely,

1640
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 1: And I think it also circles back to the main point,

1641
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 1: which is people care about the values that their kids

1642
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 1: are learning in school, right. It's not. Of course, we

1643
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 1: all want our kids to to learn how to read

1644
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:47,639
Speaker 1: and to do math um, but the values are equally important.

1645
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 1: Trooping a child's character used to be a large part

1646
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:54,640
Speaker 1: of education, and increasingly in the public school system or

1647
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 1: in the traditional public school system, that's either something they

1648
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:01,639
Speaker 1: don't pay any attention to it at all or um,

1649
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's controlled by one left wing point of view,

1650
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 1: and parents are left, as they have different values, are

1651
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:10,800
Speaker 1: left with very few options about you know, if they

1652
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 1: can't afford to send their kids to a private school

1653
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 1: on their own dime, um, they can't homeschool because mom

1654
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:19,639
Speaker 1: and dad both work, right, they have very very few

1655
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 1: options to find a school or an education for their

1656
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:26,320
Speaker 1: kid that actually fits with their values. And this is

1657
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 1: what the conservatives should because especially concerned with right um,

1658
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 1: our ideology is going to die out if we keep

1659
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:36,679
Speaker 1: sending our kids to the public school system that teaches

1660
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:40,720
Speaker 1: them to be left wingers. Right um. And that's you know,

1661
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:42,960
Speaker 1: some of that we can counteract at home, but not

1662
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:45,360
Speaker 1: all of it. And so it's incredibly important that we

1663
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 1: get these choices that then have so much of an impact,

1664
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:51,440
Speaker 1: not just on tat schools, but on things like families,

1665
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:55,080
Speaker 1: on communities, on crime rates, on values, things that conservatives

1666
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:58,720
Speaker 1: normally like to talk about. Yeah, crime behavior, violence, and

1667
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:02,519
Speaker 1: society at large. If schooling can have an effect on this,

1668
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:05,839
Speaker 1: a very positive effect on this, and school choice in particular,

1669
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:07,760
Speaker 1: it would seem like that scenario that should get a

1670
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 1: lot more attention under from the administration and from the

1671
01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:14,439
Speaker 1: media at large. But as we know, teachers unions not

1672
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:16,160
Speaker 1: so much a fan of this stuff, and as from

1673
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 1: what I understand, absolutely not, teachers unions basically resist all

1674
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:26,400
Speaker 1: change to the education system, even though pretty much everyone

1675
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:30,160
Speaker 1: agrees that the education system is sailing our kids. The

1676
01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 1: unions have this constant refrain, which is, if you give

1677
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:35,840
Speaker 1: us more money, will make it better. Right, We've we've

1678
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:38,160
Speaker 1: been giving them more money, both on the federal and

1679
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 1: the state levels for basically forty years, and they haven't

1680
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 1: done better, and in fact, the problems hasn't many ways

1681
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 1: gotten worse. Um and and so they every time they

1682
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:50,599
Speaker 1: come back with the same refrain, the same refrain, if

1683
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 1: you just give us more money this time, we'll make

1684
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:56,360
Speaker 1: it work, when in reality, we spend among the highest

1685
01:40:56,400 --> 01:41:00,760
Speaker 1: per pupil spending in the developed world where number three, Um,

1686
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:02,599
Speaker 1: you know what have they spend in DC, by the way,

1687
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:05,960
Speaker 1: is it's like private school tuition per student? Oh yeah,

1688
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:08,639
Speaker 1: it's like Sidwell Friend's tuition, not just any private school.

1689
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 1: It's thirty thousand dollars per student. That's astonishing. Imagine just

1690
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:17,400
Speaker 1: imagine if every DC parent got thirty thousand dollars in

1691
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:21,720
Speaker 1: their pocket to send their kids to whatever educational experience

1692
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:24,679
Speaker 1: was best for that kid. Just imagine the impact that

1693
01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:27,920
Speaker 1: that would have. But instead it's going into the same

1694
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:32,560
Speaker 1: system that is repeatedly failing kids, um and failing families

1695
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 1: who don't have a lot of other options. He has

1696
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:37,519
Speaker 1: feltures a contribute to the Federalists. You can re relatest

1697
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 1: at the Federalist dot com. Also follow her on Twitter.

1698
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:41,760
Speaker 1: And as We're gonna have to get in touch with

1699
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:43,599
Speaker 1: somebody at the White House to get them start looking

1700
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:45,599
Speaker 1: at school choice stuff, because I'm not hearing enough about

1701
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 1: this and I feel like this is this is one

1702
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:51,640
Speaker 1: place where conservatives win when people know the truth absolutely

1703
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 1: and more importantly, get in touch with your state legislators.

1704
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:57,919
Speaker 1: Get in touch with your state lawmakers, because education policy

1705
01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 1: should be made at the state level. And largely still is.

1706
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:04,439
Speaker 1: The funds come from the state, and the states really

1707
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:07,439
Speaker 1: set the policy. So talk to your legislators. Make sure

1708
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 1: that you know they know that this is an important

1709
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 1: issue for you. It's to me, I think it's the

1710
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:16,600
Speaker 1: survival of our ideology, of the belief systems that we

1711
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:20,080
Speaker 1: have of um, you know, civics in America and really

1712
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 1: of citizenship in America. We don't, you know, improve the

1713
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:27,200
Speaker 1: quality of the education that our kids received. We're just

1714
01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:30,120
Speaker 1: going to continue down the wrong path. And as felt

1715
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 1: everybody follow her on Twitter and dinas have a great weekend.

1716
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining. Thank you day. We're gonna roll

1717
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:39,439
Speaker 1: into a quick break here we come back. We're gonna

1718
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:44,160
Speaker 1: get into some roll call. Man, It's a lot for

1719
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:47,479
Speaker 1: a Friday, everybody. I tell you today I kind of

1720
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:49,720
Speaker 1: cleared out the schedule, you know. I talked to some

1721
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 1: Fox people. I'm like, you know what, I'll do one

1722
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 1: hit today. I don't. I can't no more TV for me,

1723
01:42:55,479 --> 01:43:00,080
Speaker 1: wear some sweats. I'm gonna cook myself a nice Friday

1724
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,360
Speaker 1: style brunch, you know, a lot of bacon, a lot

1725
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:06,320
Speaker 1: of eggs around like one o'clock in the afternoon. You know,

1726
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:08,040
Speaker 1: I just really kind of lean into it. I was

1727
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 1: gonna do a little a little bit of reading for pleasure,

1728
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 1: which is, I know, such an anomaly these days. He's

1729
01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:15,720
Speaker 1: gonna kick back, relax, and you put on some Cat

1730
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:19,040
Speaker 1: Stevens and let the cat pur. And instead, I know,

1731
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:22,840
Speaker 1: now his name is like something like Yosef Islam or something. Right,

1732
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:26,799
Speaker 1: Cat Stevens changed his name to Salmon Islam or Yosef

1733
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 1: Islam or something. I forget what Cat Stephen's name is. Now. Anyway,

1734
01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:33,000
Speaker 1: you gotta let the cat pur while you're drinking some zema.

1735
01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:35,439
Speaker 1: And and I was just sitting around, you know, thinking

1736
01:43:35,479 --> 01:43:37,760
Speaker 1: that it was gonna be pretty chill, and sure enough

1737
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:41,440
Speaker 1: it was like blam, huge story on Russia and then blam,

1738
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 1: FBI dropped the ball and I'm sitting here, I'm like,

1739
01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 1: oh no, my whole day got turned upside down. And then,

1740
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 1: you know the problem with with getting involved in this

1741
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:53,000
Speaker 1: stuff as you start to see some of the some

1742
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:55,639
Speaker 1: of the Twitter battles. You know, right when the news breaks,

1743
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:57,559
Speaker 1: you want to get in there, and next thing you know,

1744
01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:00,920
Speaker 1: you're in some You're in some long Twitter to exchange

1745
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 1: with some clown from who knows what network, and You're like,

1746
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:05,760
Speaker 1: why am I even doing? What am I doing with

1747
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 1: my life? Like what is the point? What is the

1748
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 1: point of this? I should be focused on the content

1749
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:14,280
Speaker 1: for the show, focused on making sure that I'm as

1750
01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 1: prepared as I possibly can be every single day for

1751
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 1: the Freedom Hub, which is no doubt my mission and

1752
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:23,160
Speaker 1: my mantra. But it was quite a change today. So

1753
01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:26,400
Speaker 1: anyway with that, I I will get into I will

1754
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:29,000
Speaker 1: get in from Pope. There we go yet, Team Bucking.

1755
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:34,920
Speaker 1: It's time for roll Call? Who roll Call? We gotta

1756
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 1: make some cool like you know what I mean? We

1757
01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 1: should probably take some some lee Aramy quotes. Isn't that

1758
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 1: as the guy's name from Full Metal Jacket? Actually movie

1759
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 1: quote Friday. I should know this, you know what I'm saying,

1760
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:46,800
Speaker 1: and we can intersperse them and create our own thing

1761
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:50,719
Speaker 1: for roll call, Like I didn't know they stacked stuff

1762
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 1: that high, you know that stuff something like that, and

1763
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:57,280
Speaker 1: we put that in there. That's amazing. I admit. I

1764
01:44:57,320 --> 01:44:59,680
Speaker 1: think that there are a couple of movies where you

1765
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:01,920
Speaker 1: have to think of it as a movie in in

1766
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 1: two parts, and one of them is Wedding Crashers. The

1767
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:11,840
Speaker 1: first hour of Wedding Crashers is like a highly entertaining,

1768
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:15,559
Speaker 1: amazing movie that I can watch anytime. The second hour

1769
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 1: is a not funny, depressing, weird devolution into the depths

1770
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 1: of human despair and like frailty. It's not what I

1771
01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 1: was signed up for at all. Right, Basically, when they

1772
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:28,080
Speaker 1: leave the island with the really nice country house on

1773
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:30,479
Speaker 1: the on the shore of Maryland in wedding Crashers, it's

1774
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:33,160
Speaker 1: no longer a movie you should watch. I I kind

1775
01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:34,559
Speaker 1: of and some of you gonna get mad at me,

1776
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:35,800
Speaker 1: but you know what, that's okay. I like to I

1777
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 1: like to provoke sometimes. I feel the same way about

1778
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 1: Full Metal Jacket first hour. Full Metal Jacket is like

1779
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:46,400
Speaker 1: cinematic masterpiece. It's incredible. Uh, it's, you know, among among

1780
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:49,880
Speaker 1: the best of Kubrick's works. The second hours. You know,

1781
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:51,560
Speaker 1: he could have like taken it and put it in

1782
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:53,599
Speaker 1: the middle of the movie Platoon and been like, yeah,

1783
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:55,799
Speaker 1: it's like all kind of the same. It was fine,

1784
01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:58,559
Speaker 1: it was not. I didn't have quite the same In fact,

1785
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:00,960
Speaker 1: and I think Lee Airmy and I'm probably getting his

1786
01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:04,000
Speaker 1: name wrong, but that the drill instructor really carried the

1787
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 1: movie on his shoulders. Um he did quite an amazing job,

1788
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:10,479
Speaker 1: a timeless a timeless character, and I'm sure he's a

1789
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:15,360
Speaker 1: conservative all right in roll call Now, pardon the digression there,

1790
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:18,880
Speaker 1: big fan of your show. This comes from John So John,

1791
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:22,840
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of you original Saturday squad here. Oss.

1792
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:25,519
Speaker 1: You have the perfect mix of analysis, opinion, and humor,

1793
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:28,640
Speaker 1: and you are polite to callers. Miss the days when

1794
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 1: you be doing your show after a panel appearance on

1795
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 1: CNN and you would vent some anger. That was good stuff.

1796
01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:38,000
Speaker 1: I download all your shield HiPE podcast. You should consider

1797
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 1: doing a deep dive on Operation AJAX. Uh. There's probably

1798
01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:45,680
Speaker 1: a lot of misinformation regarding this. For a recommendation, I

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01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:51,400
Speaker 1: would recommend blank he's a blankety blank blank blank. Okay, anyway,

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01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 1: keep up the good work and shields high. Thank you

1801
01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:57,000
Speaker 1: very much, John. Yeah. That The only good part about

1802
01:46:57,000 --> 01:46:58,600
Speaker 1: CNN is that when they would cut me off and

1803
01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 1: not let me respond ring an ambush, I would then

1804
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:06,000
Speaker 1: sometimes come on radio and just vent spleen or like

1805
01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 1: a solid thirty minutes on it, which which made for

1806
01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 1: some good radio buck There were buck slaps all over

1807
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:14,599
Speaker 1: the place. They're just buck slaps left and right, so

1808
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 1: you know there whoa hey, there came out of nowhere.

1809
01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:22,120
Speaker 1: By the way, every time we do that, I think

1810
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:25,240
Speaker 1: of the the radio show on Parks and Wreck. Do

1811
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:27,640
Speaker 1: you guys know Parks and Wreck? The show where the

1812
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:31,479
Speaker 1: guys you know what's his name, crazy Ira and the douche.

1813
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 1: It's that's like among the best parts of the show.

1814
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:38,040
Speaker 1: Although the guy whose name is like Mervin Myrtle or whatever,

1815
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 1: who's the the NPR style host, I actually like his

1816
01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:45,920
Speaker 1: pseudo radio show more. You know. It's like, oh, we're

1817
01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 1: listening to uh, Swedish jazz music and he's just so boring,

1818
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 1: and they're talking about like the mating habits of flying

1819
01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:56,559
Speaker 1: squirrels and stuff like that. It's a you know, NPR.

1820
01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:59,280
Speaker 1: It's it's great. It's great stuff. And now I'm not

1821
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:01,760
Speaker 1: actual mp are I mean their version of MPR in

1822
01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:05,040
Speaker 1: Parks and Recreation. Another thing, I'll give you a tip,

1823
01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:07,120
Speaker 1: skip the season two. If you haven't seen Parks in Rex.

1824
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:09,599
Speaker 1: Season one is garbage. Just go right to season two

1825
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:11,600
Speaker 1: on Netflix and start watching it. From there, you'll love it.

1826
01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:14,439
Speaker 1: Ron Swanson will be your favorite TV character, one of

1827
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:16,880
Speaker 1: your favorite TV characters of all time. But season one

1828
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 1: is bad. It's almost like unwatchable. So you gotta go

1829
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:22,080
Speaker 1: right to season two. You miss nothing, all right? Now

1830
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:27,520
Speaker 1: we have uh Bill, who's next up? Food for Poor?

1831
01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:33,960
Speaker 1: Thirty to forty years ago, the poor could get basic food, flour, beans, cheese, Uh, power,

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01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:37,439
Speaker 1: power eggs. I guess that's powdered eggs, right, powdered, Yes,

1833
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:42,799
Speaker 1: power high powered powdered or I can't speak power eggs.

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01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:45,400
Speaker 1: Sounds like something you take before you're lifting. Yeah, I'm

1835
01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 1: lifting away. It's I'm very strong, going to pump you up.

1836
01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 1: I have to the clap thing. I don't know if

1837
01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:54,160
Speaker 1: you could hear that. Not a lot of SNL sketches

1838
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:56,360
Speaker 1: really hold up from back in the day, Like there's

1839
01:48:56,360 --> 01:48:58,120
Speaker 1: a there's a lot of nostalgia with them. But if

1840
01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:00,000
Speaker 1: you go back and you watch some of the Jim

1841
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 1: Blushi stuff, feel like this doesn't this doesn't hold up

1842
01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:05,840
Speaker 1: all right. He writes food for the Poor thirty or

1843
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:07,599
Speaker 1: four years and you get that stuff. They all had

1844
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:10,400
Speaker 1: to take, Uh. They had to take all these commodities,

1845
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:12,920
Speaker 1: not just what they wanted. This means they had to

1846
01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:15,160
Speaker 1: prepare the food instead of just pouring it out of

1847
01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 1: a box. They would take all and if they did

1848
01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 1: not want something, throw it in the trash or sell

1849
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:21,200
Speaker 1: it to someone. All right, Bill, Well, thank you for

1850
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 1: the historical context there. I would say this, I'm gonna

1851
01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:27,800
Speaker 1: have to return to this issue of food and food

1852
01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:30,160
Speaker 1: stamps and all that. This this was this is a

1853
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:33,559
Speaker 1: surprise during the show. I mean we the response on

1854
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:36,320
Speaker 1: the phones, on email and Facebook to that one segment,

1855
01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:38,479
Speaker 1: which I just kind of thought about something I had

1856
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:42,160
Speaker 1: read earlier in the day was was profound. People were

1857
01:49:42,160 --> 01:49:45,639
Speaker 1: really really into it. Um. So we will get into

1858
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 1: that some more. Uh Irwin rights the following, Hey, Buck,

1859
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:53,920
Speaker 1: I agree with you, there's really no solution to this problem.

1860
01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:56,960
Speaker 1: Fully support the Constitution, the Second Amendment, and therefore support

1861
01:49:57,000 --> 01:50:00,120
Speaker 1: the idea that this kind of unfortunate situation is a

1862
01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:05,160
Speaker 1: cost of doing business, you know earin I'm so open

1863
01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:07,280
Speaker 1: to any ideas that will fix this that don't have

1864
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:09,679
Speaker 1: really bad trade offs, that are all and and are

1865
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:12,679
Speaker 1: also worthless actions to prevent it. Right, If someone says

1866
01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:15,000
Speaker 1: we can do this, it would stop gun That's why

1867
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:17,400
Speaker 1: when people say more armed security at schools, all right,

1868
01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:20,760
Speaker 1: how much more I don't know how highly trained up

1869
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:24,000
Speaker 1: for discussion, but more not opposed to that? Will it

1870
01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 1: stop some Maybe? Is there any real downside as I

1871
01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:30,560
Speaker 1: see it, not really. You know, your school safety officers

1872
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:32,679
Speaker 1: there for any number of safety issues. Right. The guy

1873
01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:34,880
Speaker 1: who's standing there, who's got a glock on his hip

1874
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:36,920
Speaker 1: to make sure there's not a school shooting, could also

1875
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:39,080
Speaker 1: be the guy who have you know, a student is

1876
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 1: having some kind of you know, major health emergency. He

1877
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:44,439
Speaker 1: could be a first responder. I mean, it can sort

1878
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:47,320
Speaker 1: of many hat the positions that people have with regard

1879
01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:49,559
Speaker 1: to this, they're not just it's not like they're standing

1880
01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 1: there in a you know, standing there in some kind

1881
01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:57,240
Speaker 1: of you know, armored personnel carrier on the lookout, right.

1882
01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna be able to interact with students

1883
01:50:59,120 --> 01:51:02,920
Speaker 1: and do things. They're not dug into a machine gun

1884
01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 1: nest with a fifty cow waiting for someone to come

1885
01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:08,400
Speaker 1: after them. They can be helpful to other parts of

1886
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:11,400
Speaker 1: the school atmosphere and keep kids safe without having to

1887
01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:15,760
Speaker 1: engage an active shooter. Right, there's other stuff anyway, Bill

1888
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:18,479
Speaker 1: writes the following, and I'm sorry, Bill, because it got

1889
01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:21,320
Speaker 1: frozen there for a second. Hey, Buck, great work on

1890
01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:24,080
Speaker 1: your radio show. Really enjoy listening to it on Stitcher.

1891
01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:26,639
Speaker 1: That's right, everybody, you can listen on stitcher. By the way,

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01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:29,000
Speaker 1: could you have your people tech people look into your

1893
01:51:29,080 --> 01:51:32,120
Speaker 1: voice level? It seems kind of low and have trouble

1894
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:34,600
Speaker 1: When I turn it up the bump music comes on.

1895
01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:37,479
Speaker 1: It's really loud. Is this a thing? Are we are

1896
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:41,040
Speaker 1: we having? Is this on me? Oh? I turned my

1897
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 1: oh oh, all right, this is a This is apparently

1898
01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:48,439
Speaker 1: my radio technique. Folks. Occasionally I don't speak right into

1899
01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:51,360
Speaker 1: the microphone because blue blue. But yeah, you guys are right.

1900
01:51:51,880 --> 01:51:53,439
Speaker 1: You're not the first people have told me that I

1901
01:51:53,439 --> 01:51:55,800
Speaker 1: get all animated and I assume I'm talking. I assume

1902
01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:57,680
Speaker 1: the whole team is in the room with me, and

1903
01:51:57,680 --> 01:52:00,160
Speaker 1: I'm not actually speaking to people across the entire our

1904
01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:03,640
Speaker 1: United States through a little metal tube that I have

1905
01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:05,360
Speaker 1: to be very close to it all times or else

1906
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:09,160
Speaker 1: my voice does not really carry over it. But we

1907
01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:11,920
Speaker 1: have a ton more messages in the in the inbox

1908
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 1: for this week. I will hold some off for Monday.

1909
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:16,560
Speaker 1: And you know, by the way, we're also going to

1910
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 1: start thinking about some ideas for going live with video

1911
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:22,240
Speaker 1: or maybe post show video or pre show video. So

1912
01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:25,280
Speaker 1: you've got ideas on that, let me know. Facebook dot com,

1913
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:28,439
Speaker 1: slash box, sex and official Team Buck at gmail dot com.

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01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:31,240
Speaker 1: If you want to email us, we should probably get

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01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 1: a company email for that. By the way, just a

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01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 1: thought makes it sound like I'm doing Wayne's World thing

1917
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:39,200
Speaker 1: out of my basement here. We should get a real one. Hey, everybody,

1918
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:41,679
Speaker 1: have a great weekend. Excited to join you next week.

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01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:43,639
Speaker 1: Shields High