1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Oh, this one warrants some sirens here we are no 2 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: ducks back with you again. 3 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: But this one's an even bigger emergency. I'm tas Mellows 4 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: with me here in the emergency room. It's Trey Kirby 5 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: hel and making the magic happen here, it's Ashual kid. 6 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: What's up ash All doing? 7 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 3: Doing good? Act? Gotta be a part of this one. 8 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 3: That's how big this one is. 9 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 4: Yes, Team trade, three man podcast. We got to got 10 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 4: to Yeah, three teams, very very interesting. 11 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: Can't wait to get everybody's take on all three of 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 2: these teams. The Hawks, Let's start with them because it 13 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: seems like they're getting the biggest name here. Christaps Porzingis 14 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: is stealth to the Atlanta Hawks. Along with the second 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: round pick. The Nets receive Terrence Man from the Atlanta 16 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: Hawks plus the number twenty two pick in this year's 17 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: draft via Atlanta and. 18 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 3: The Boston Celtics. 19 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: What do they get for Chris SAPs Porzingis, Well, they 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: get George Niang from the Atlanta Hawks plus a second 21 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: round pick. Tray, where are we starting? Where we starting? 22 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: After this emergency that we pulled out today for this one, 23 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: which is a bigger trade than Jordan Pool and CJ. 24 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 3: McCollum. 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 4: Right, oh yeah, oh yeah, definitely a bigger trade than 26 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 4: Jordan Pool CJ. McCollum. Look, there was a one time 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 4: champion in both of the trades, but Porzingis as a 28 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 4: one time All Star puts this trade over the top 29 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 4: emergency wise for me, and I think it's good to 30 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 4: start with Atlanta. Not only are they first alphabetically, I 31 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 4: just noticed that one bad trade board. Why not it 32 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 4: was the three first alphabetical teams in the entire NBA. WHOA, 33 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 4: You know you've been monitoring things too much when you're 34 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 4: noticing the alphabetical nature of things. 35 00:01:59,120 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: But we gotta start. 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: Why don't we go Atlanta, Brooklyn then Boston instead of 37 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: Boston and Brooklyn started over, started out. I gotta restart Rertart. Yeah, 38 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: So why why are we starting with Atlanta? 39 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 4: Well, they got the biggest name certainly and Kristaps Porzingis, 40 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 4: and I think the change for them makes them the 41 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 4: most interesting team because we'll get to it, but like, 42 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 4: where are the Hawks gonna rank in the Eastern Conference? 43 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 4: But I think this is a really smart move for 44 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 4: Atlanta taking a flyer on Kris STAPs. He'll be thirty 45 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 4: at the start of next season. He's on an expiring deal, 46 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 4: so they can play out the season, see how things go, 47 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 4: decide if they want to bring him back next year, 48 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 4: or maybe they say thanks for the memories, Chris STAPs. 49 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 4: You know, this could go poorly for Atlanta, certainly, but 50 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 4: I think it's a formidable front court. They're going to 51 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 4: be having Jalen Johnson coming back from injury, Kristaps porzingis 52 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 4: coming to Atlanta coming back from illness. I suppose you 53 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 4: would say Risha Cha in year three. Then you've got 54 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 4: the backcourt Trey Young, Dyson Daniels. That looks like a 55 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 4: nice starting five in an Eastern Conference. That is a 56 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 4: little bit topsy turvy. Right now. We don't know what's 57 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 4: gonna be happening with the Bucks. We don't know who's 58 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 4: gonna be coaching the Knicks. The seventy six ers are 59 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 4: drafting third after a disaster season. They're things are changing 60 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 4: right now, and it seems like Atlanta decides we're tired 61 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 4: of being in the play in tournament every single year. 62 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 4: We're tired of winning forty games every single year. So 63 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 4: maybe taking a chance on Kristaps, hoping to catch lightning 64 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 4: in a bottle. If things break right, I think they 65 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 4: could make a conference finals team. But basically they got 66 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 4: off the Terrence Man deal, which ran through twenty twenty eight. 67 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 4: I think that's an underrated benefit to Atlanta. 68 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: Here. 69 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 4: They didn't really give up any core players George and 70 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 4: Diang Sad. We never saw him on the belt line, 71 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 4: at least I didn't, but he wasn't a long term 72 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 4: They got the deal done at the trade deadline. He 73 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 4: had some moments in Atlanta, but basically his biggest benefit 74 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: is bringing Kristaps Porzingis here. They did trade a first 75 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 4: round draft pick, but guess what they kept the better one, 76 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 4: number thirteen, which they're getting from Sacramento this so, I 77 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 4: think the way the Hawks played this is pretty smooth. 78 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 3: Ash. 79 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: I saw you smile early on there when chrisps Porzingis 80 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: was mentioned. 81 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: Why was that smile? 82 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: What do you? 83 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: What do you? 84 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 4: You? 85 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 3: Just full of glee over there? 86 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 5: Honestly I was giggling because he said he's about to 87 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 5: be thirty. 88 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 6: Blew my mind. Yeah, that blew my mind. 89 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 5: I thought you were about to say maybe forty, right, 90 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 5: like feels like it just the way that he's never 91 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 5: on the court. But I mean, you know, as as 92 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 5: a guy who's a fan of both of these teams, Yes, 93 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 5: the Hawks, this is a great move for them. 94 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 6: I'm excited about it. 95 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 5: They basically got off of two people who weren't really 96 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 5: a part of rotation. I mean Conda last year. Yeah, 97 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 5: but not a big part of their future, not a 98 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 5: big part of their plans. I don't feel like so 99 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 5: Traders went through it all. Having Porzingis though, and as 100 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 5: the man in the middle, that must mean that Clint 101 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 5: Capella is going to be going somewhere soon, which is 102 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 5: another good thing because what can you get for him 103 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 5: to bring in and add to this team? They obviously 104 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 5: need a lot of things. Everybody's always asking what should 105 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 5: we do with Trey Young? But like Trade just said, 106 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 5: the East is wide open. The representative for the conference, 107 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 5: their star player just got injured. He's gonna miss all 108 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 5: next season. The Celtics, who were also talking about right 109 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 5: now Jason Tames out for all the next season. So 110 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 5: what's gonna happen with the East? It is wide open. 111 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 5: I think the Hawks can break something. We've seen it 112 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 5: happen before in twenty twenty one, So who's to say, 113 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 5: Like this season, isn't the season for them to make 114 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 5: something happen. 115 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 6: I'm optimistic. 116 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta be pumped for the Atlanta Hawks. We've 117 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: seen two trades in the last twenty four hours where 118 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 2: the Boston Celtics did this sort of stare step down 119 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 2: method where they traded Drew Holliday and they traded Porzingis. 120 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: But in this case. 121 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 2: They didn't get a great player like Anthony Simon's back 122 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: and so in this one, how can you say to 123 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: the Atlanta Hawks messed up? 124 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: Here? 125 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: In theory, Porzingis in the middle of that starting lineup 126 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: that Trey went through. If Trey Young, Dyson Daniels as 127 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: your back court to young zacharysa Che at the three, 128 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: with Jalen Johnson at the four, and then a very 129 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: much needed center who's tall. 130 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: They needed some height, and for sure they did. 131 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: It's risky because listen, Kristaps Porzingis, we don't know what 132 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: he's going through medically and physically. He couldn't be himself 133 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 2: at all in the postseason. He could barely play, He 134 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: barely could be on the floor. He had to be off. 135 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: He literally wasn't feeling right physically. Whether it was that 136 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: same bronchitis or whatever it was that happened during the season. 137 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: I mean, he's really unsure. It's not like I'm been sure. 138 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: He was really unsure as to what he had that 139 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 2: took him out for weeks. He comes back and he 140 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: just hasn't been himself and he's literally said that, So 141 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: is this a little risky? 142 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 3: Yeah? 143 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 2: It is because he's also playing beside Jalen Johnson, who 144 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: the guy is fantastic. That five year deal that he 145 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 2: signed seems so great before this year, but he's also 146 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 2: been struggling to stay on the court. So you got 147 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 2: a front court there that's good in theory. I mean, 148 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 2: Jim Johnson literally could have been an All Star, But 149 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 2: are they going to be good? Well, a number twenty 150 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 2: two pick and Terrence Man and Georgiana probably worth it, 151 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: Probably worth the risk. As Trey said, you know, it's 152 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: a flyer, but it's a flyer on Christaps Porzingis, who, 153 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: now that we've said he's thirty a couple times, he's 154 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: starting to feel older and older, right because it is 155 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: Chris STAPs and he hasn't been on the floor a lot, 156 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: So it's. 157 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 3: A little worrisome. Yeah, but I guess. 158 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: I guess, all in all, a number twenty two pick 159 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: when you have a lot of picks George and Yang 160 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: who got dealt already twice this season. In Terrence Man, 161 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: who Trey. I know you weren't a big Terrence Man fan, 162 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: and he really wasn't thriving here in Atlanta. He just 163 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: he just wasn't just wasn't the best version of himself. 164 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: And I don't know if he'll ever be that as 165 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: a role player off the bench. 166 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, there. 167 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 4: Wasn't necessarily a spot for Terrence Man here in Atlanta, 168 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 4: right You've got guards in Daniels and I guess you know, 169 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 4: Resa che is more of a wing, but guys who 170 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 4: are ahead of Terrence Man in the development order for 171 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 4: the haw He didn't seem super happy to me to 172 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 4: be here in Atlanta from the games I was at. 173 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 4: But you know that's just playing body language. Doctor. I 174 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 4: don't know what's going on with him. He's got a 175 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 4: chance to stick around in Brooklyn. They've got basically nobody 176 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 4: on their team right now outside of Nick Claxton and 177 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 4: Cam Johnson for now, so he could stay, he could 178 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 4: get traded, I don't know, but the Hawks packaging guys 179 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 4: that they got from the Bogdanovitch trade, basically along with 180 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 4: a late pick when they keep their earlier pick. I 181 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 4: think this is a good roll of the dice for 182 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 4: a team that has been stuck in the bottom of 183 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 4: the middle in the Eastern Conference for a little bit. 184 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 4: Here they're a much more balanced team. Like Porzingis does 185 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 4: bring defense when he's on the court, shot blocking as well. 186 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 4: Jalen Johnson can play defense, Recesche is solid, and Dyson 187 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 4: Daniels is obviously a really good defensive player. You've got 188 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 4: Trey Young as the engine who's gonna be setting Christaps 189 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 4: up with lobs finding him for picking pops. This is 190 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 4: just a really good on paper fit. Like you're saying, tasks, 191 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,599 Speaker 4: the injuries are going to be a concern. It's like 192 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 4: Kristaps played fifty six games last year. That's not very good, 193 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 4: but it's twenty games more than Jalen Johnson played. That 194 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 4: guy has banged up quite a bit. But they do 195 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 4: have a congo. I think he's maybe best suited as 196 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 4: a backup big just because of the height and the rebounding. 197 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 4: He's a good player though, and if either of those 198 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 4: guys miss time, Johnson or Portszingis, which is likely a 199 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 4: Congo can step in for a couple of games here 200 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 4: and there. So I think good stuff from the Hawks. 201 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 4: Their new front office is deciding, hey, let's make something 202 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 4: happen here, and it's gonna be interesting to see how 203 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 4: things play out, because you know, they've been in the 204 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 4: seven through ten range quite a bit. I think this 205 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 4: should in theory elevate them to a top six seed. 206 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 4: We'll see how it actually turns out. 207 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: All right, esh, let's get your opinion of your other 208 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: favorite team, the Boston Celtics and what they did here 209 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: sending out Chris Oaps for George Nyang essentially and a 210 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: second round pick. 211 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 6: Uh. I guess. I guess. 212 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 5: The question is that what exactly is the plan right 213 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 5: now for the Celtics coming in to free agency or 214 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 5: coming into the summer. Everybody's like, Okay, maybe something has 215 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 5: to be done. There's a lot of money on the 216 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 5: books right now. But like I said earlier, Jason Tatum 217 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 5: going down injury is going to miss the season. Everybody's like, Okay, 218 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 5: well maybe we stay still maybe, but no. They ship 219 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 5: out Drew Holiday yesterday for Anthony Simons, then today they decide, yeah, 220 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 5: let's get rid of our starting center. 221 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 6: They just won a championship last. 222 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 5: Year and they're already like, we have to find a 223 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 5: new iteration on this team. 224 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 6: I don't know if that's the right move. Maybe it is. 225 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 5: Maybe you tinker just around the edges and you see 226 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 5: what happens or what I thought was going to happen. 227 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 5: Maybe they stand pat and see what they have with 228 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 5: the team without their star player and see what Jaylen 229 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 5: Brown can do is kind of their star player this season. 230 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 6: But I guess it's still the plan. 231 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 5: But to make your team, in my opinion, worse, I 232 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 5: don't know what the plan is exactly. 233 00:10:58,840 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: That's fair. 234 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: I will say Christops perzingis, yes, part of the championship team, 235 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 2: played on it, but his role it wasn't as yet and. 236 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 4: Then probably could have won it without him last year. 237 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've re signed guys like Drew Holliday for 238 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: monster contracts. They've resigned their stars for monster contracts. Christaps 239 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: porzingis at the end of his contract this coming season. 240 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: He's got one more year on that deal. Was not 241 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 2: going to be signed like those other guys were, just 242 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 2: because of the way that the CBA works. 243 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: It would have been probably too expensive. 244 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: You you see all these championship teams and they just 245 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 2: generally keep all the guys on it. But if a 246 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: guy's not playing, it would have been hard to to 247 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 2: sign him. 248 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 3: And I hate to go back to injuries, but you 249 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 3: gotta be realistic with him, and. 250 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 2: They also could be seeing that he ain't playing that much, 251 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: as simple as. 252 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 3: That, right, I think. 253 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 5: I think I think in a nutshell like this deal 254 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 5: alone probably isn't too bad. So maybe I'm being too 255 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 5: harsh with this one because as with the Celtics, yeah 256 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 5: they should. 257 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 6: Why not do that? 258 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 5: He's not playing anyway, so you're not giving up anything, right, 259 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 5: but packaged with Drew Howday maybe going out yesterday in 260 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 5: which a lot of. 261 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 6: People say, is Drew Holliday watched? 262 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 5: Is he good enough to help them be a championship 263 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 5: contender at the age he is and the way that 264 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 5: he's playing right now? But I think when you look 265 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 5: at him together, like I said, they just won a 266 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 5: championship last year, and you've lost your starting point guard 267 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 5: and the starting center, regardless if their planning or not, 268 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 5: it's like, okay, well what are they. 269 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 6: Doing to fill the holes of that position? 270 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 5: Right, and I know Anthony new Simons comes in, but 271 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 5: how much is he helping? Like he's not gonna bring 272 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 5: the defense that Drew Holiday had, for example, So I 273 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 5: don't know. 274 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 6: That's just I guess my opinion of it there. 275 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 4: It's weird the Celtics. I mean, these are honestly tanking moves. 276 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 4: If we're being one hundred with it. You know, they 277 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 4: traded two starters. They're gonna look hilarious next year. They're 278 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 4: gonna be out three starters when you factor in Tatum's injury. 279 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 4: And the guys that they brought in are Simons and 280 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 4: George Niang, and all those guys want to do is 281 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 4: chuck three pointers. They're not gonna play defense. They're just 282 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 4: gonna run and chuck. You know, Niang at least tries. 283 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 4: He just doesn't have great quickness or uh athleticism, but 284 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 4: he tries at least. So I think they're just gonna 285 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 4: be a run and gun team. But the plan for 286 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 4: the Celtics, everybody knew even before the Tatum injury, was 287 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 4: to save some money here, Like Porzingis and Holliday could 288 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 4: have been second Apron casualties regardless of a Tatum injury. 289 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 4: But once he went down. You can tell that their 290 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 4: new ownership is taking this gap year pretty seriously. It's 291 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 4: just gonna be a down year for the Celtics. Maybe 292 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 4: they can still be a playoff team led by Jalen 293 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 4: Brown and Derek White and Peyton Pritchard Infrety Simons, like 294 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 4: they still have talented pieces around. We'll see what they 295 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 4: do with Al Horford and Luke Cornett. I think it 296 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 4: maybe makes it more likely that they stick around now 297 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 4: that they don't have a center with Porzingis being traded. 298 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 4: But the plan for the Celtics is we're getting underneath 299 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 4: the second apron, which this deal does. It gets them 300 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 4: out of the repeater tax as well, which saves the 301 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 4: new owners like two hundred million dollars basically in real money, 302 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 4: you know, not necessarily salary cap money, but how much 303 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 4: they were gonna have to pay for it, and when 304 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 4: you're doing financial moves, Unfortunately, the return is going to 305 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 4: be a second round pick and a George Niang. Right, 306 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 4: So it's gonna be a down year for the Celtics 307 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 4: compared to where they've been the past what seven seasons. 308 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,239 Speaker 4: You know, Ash is getting used to conference finals appearances, 309 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 4: but it's not always gravy. You gotta take a little 310 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 4: bit of a step back, and they'll be gearing up 311 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 4: for twenty twenty six when Tatum returns at full strength. 312 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 4: I think you can get upset, though, esh if Jalen 313 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 4: Brown ends up getting shipped out, that would be a 314 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 4: major change up here. But these ones are a little 315 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 4: bit more understandable and expected. 316 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 3: Right. 317 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, working around the kristaps for Zingi's absence seems like 318 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: it's doable for the Celtics because they just freaking won 319 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: a ship with Chris Steps not playing a ton and 320 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: so that seems fixable. Even the Drew Holiday, I'm putting 321 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: them sort of separately into this vacuum. I know Holiday 322 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: helped that he was an incredible defender, and Nanfrey Simons 323 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: obviously doesn't compare to that whatsoever. But there will be 324 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: more responsibility on Derek White, which I think he's capable of. 325 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: I think Peyton Pritchard has more to give as potentially 326 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: even a starter on this team. 327 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 3: I mean, he's just a good player. He's not an incredible. 328 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: Defensive player, but he's a really solid player. So yes, 329 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 2: they're definitely weaker, but at the same time, it does 330 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: allow them to fix up everything that they did when 331 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: they signed everybody prior to the CBA going in, and 332 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: then it being a reality that all of these extended 333 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: contracts are gonna hurt big time. So I think they 334 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: have done pretty smart here. Let's go to Brooklyn, who 335 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: basically took, as you mentioned, Trey, how long Terrence Man 336 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 2: is signed for three more years and a number twenty 337 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: two pick basically to get that for nothing. They gave 338 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 2: up nothing. They got Terrence Man and a number twenty 339 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: two pick. So I think what we're seeing here is 340 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: that they're not going to be able to get all 341 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 2: that much this offseason. They basically said, we'll be happy 342 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: to take a number twenty two pick if that means 343 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: taking you on Terrence Man. But they really aren't going 344 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: to be able to grab too much more other than that, 345 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 2: or am I missing something? I mean, they do still 346 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: do have some salary cap room. But I think we're 347 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: seeing what the Nets will be come to set. 348 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the Nets are in ultra tank mode right now. 349 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 4: You know they're tanking. This season didn't go as planned, 350 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 4: which is why they had to trade Dennis Shrewder midway 351 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 4: through the season. They won too many games early in 352 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 4: the season, which put them behind the eight ball odds 353 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 4: wise going in. So they do have their draft pick 354 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 4: this coming draft tomorrow, and then they obviously, I mean 355 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 4: they've got five picks eight nineteen, twenty two, twenty six, 356 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 4: twenty seven. They have their twenty twenty six pick as well. 357 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 4: Twenty twenty six top of the draft is supposed to 358 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 4: be very, very good, and like I said earlier, there's 359 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 4: just not much in Brooklyn right now. They could still 360 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 4: move Cam Johnson if they want to. Teams are probably 361 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 4: at least calling about Nick Claxton, but other than that, 362 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 4: it's like random dudes, Like we're talking the next after 363 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 4: after Claxton and Cam Johnson and Terrence Man making at 364 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 4: least double digit million dollars, everybody else is in the 365 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 4: single digit million dollars, like eight million for a Cam 366 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 4: Thomas kind of contract. They don't have much there. Their 367 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 4: plan is to be bad, and they're using their cap 368 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 4: space here to facilitate a deal, which is something that 369 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 4: smart teams do. When you've got the cap space, you're 370 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 4: not necessarily going to get the players, but you can 371 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 4: take on a Terrence Man contract and maybe ship him 372 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 4: out a little bit later and get a second round 373 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 4: pick or three second round picks. Who knows what somebody 374 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 4: would pay for Terrence Man. He was a hot property 375 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 4: once upon a time, So this is just smart from Brooklyn. 376 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 4: I think they're still going to be really active, especially tomorrow, 377 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 4: because five draft picks is kind of insane, like you 378 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 4: can't roster five rookies. But maybe somebody decides, hey, there's 379 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 4: somebody I like that dropped to number nineteen. Can I 380 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 4: hop up for that trade or could they package these 381 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 4: and get into the top five. I don't know. It 382 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 4: seems like they're gonna be still calling on draft days, 383 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 4: so I think Brooklyn is doing the smart stuff here. 384 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 4: They did a good job to get their picks back 385 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: in the trade with Houston last year. Unfortunately, they won 386 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 4: a little bit too much at the start of last season. 387 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 4: I don't think that's going to be a problem going 388 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 4: into twenty five twenty six. 389 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're totally right about the few contracts that they 390 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 2: have on the book, so they still do have room 391 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 2: to just inherit guys like a Terrence Man or other 392 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: guys because they're paying literally nobody. 393 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 3: I didn't realize how low it was. 394 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: I guess I was I was in twenty four to 395 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: twenty five mode and still seeing Ben Simmons Monster number 396 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 2: and boy I'm Bogdanovich, D'Angel Russell and the injured d 397 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: Anthony Melton. I mean, those four guys that I just 398 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 2: mentioned were making, you know, in between twelve and thirty 399 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 2: nine million dollars all off the books. So now yeah, 400 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 2: it's just Claxton, Cam Johnson and now Terrence Man who's 401 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: making around fifteen million dollars for the next three seasons 402 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 2: fifteen to sixteen. So they got lots of room whoever, 403 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 2: whoever wants a deal. As long as they're not taking 404 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: on Bradley Beal, then. 405 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 4: The saddest news today to saddest news today is the 406 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 4: Bulls are a potential landing spot for Bradley Beale. That 407 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 4: come on, bro, if they have a giddy Beal backcourt, 408 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 4: I don't know if I'll be able to continue podcasting 409 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 4: right there, somebody lost team right there. 410 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: That kind of seems like in our tourist carnichievis move 411 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 2: like that would fit his definition. 412 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 3: Of we don't need a super duper star. 413 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: But we need nine really good players, and you know, 414 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: Squint and Bradley a good player. 415 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 4: Maybe, don't you put that evil on me? Task Mellis 416 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 4: they happening yet? But I don't know what's gonna end 417 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 4: up happening. There are reports out of Boston today that 418 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 4: the Celtics are still trying to move up into the 419 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 4: lottery in tomorrow's draft. Apparently they're fans of Yakachonas out 420 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 4: of Illinois. I don't know if they're going to be 421 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 4: able to have the assets to swing a deal like that, 422 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 4: but the Celtics are gonna be an interesting team next year. 423 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 4: Jalen Brown, assuming he's still around, will be the leader, 424 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 4: Derek White the number two option, and then after that 425 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 4: it just seems like straight up three point chucking', which 426 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 4: could be fun to watch, but also not the team 427 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 4: we've seen from the Celtics. They were a team that 428 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 4: was great on offense a top five defense. There's no 429 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 4: way they're gonna be as good defensively next year, but 430 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 4: we'll see. Where do you think this leaves the Hawks 431 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 4: in the East, though, Task and Ash are they like? 432 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 4: Is this a playoff team? A top six team? 433 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 5: I mean, how I can't even remember right now, but 434 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 5: they were not too far outside of the playoff picture. 435 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 5: This season, right, And like you said, in the first 436 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 5: half of the season, with Jalen Johnson, the way that 437 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 5: he was playing, the way that the Hogs looked with 438 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 5: him on the floor, they were a much better team. 439 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 3: Right. 440 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: So if we get Areadin forty two ash, Yeah, only 441 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: only four games back of the sixth place Pistons. It 442 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: feels like they would be so much further back because 443 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 2: of the Pistons and who they were. 444 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 3: But you're right, Jalen Johnson was a huge factor for sure. 445 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, So I mean, yeah, why couldn't they be top six? 446 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 3: Yes? 447 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 2: In theory, yes, for sure, And I hate saying in theory, 448 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 2: but it really is. Jalen Johnson is Jalen Johnson is 449 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: our second best player. 450 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:37,479 Speaker 3: Yeah. 451 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 2: He has an incredible relationship with Trey Young. They have 452 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: such good chemistry. There was a point where Trey Young 453 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: and Jalen Johnson were number four, number five and passes 454 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: per game in the NBA, or maybe it was number three, 455 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: number four, Like everything ran through them, and so when 456 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 2: he went out, yeah, it was it was the end 457 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: of the season really, because they weren't Dyson Daniels and 458 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: Zacharyshache weren't good enough to be around him. Now we 459 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: see Kristaps Porzingis come in and I don't know if 460 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: what you guys think about krisps Porzingis's ability to have 461 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 2: a contract year is that possible? Caninis be like, oh, 462 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 2: it's my year, Ran, this is the last time I'm 463 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 2: going to get paid. 464 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 3: Essentially I'm thirty. I mean I got to play. 465 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 4: Hopefully. I think that's the hope in Atlanta. It to me, 466 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 4: it never comes down to talent with Porzingis, it's availability 467 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 4: is the main question. He's an All Star caliber player 468 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 4: when he's on the court. It's just a question mark 469 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 4: if he's going to be on the court. So I 470 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 4: think the Eastern Conference this year, I might start calling 471 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 4: it the spare tire because it's a little fat in 472 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 4: the middle up top the calves, the calves. Things are 473 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 4: working awesome for the Cleveland Cavaliers. They flamed out in 474 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 4: the second round of the playoffs, but everybody got hurt 475 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 4: and all of their guys are going to be coming back. 476 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 4: Deerrige Garland is having surgery, but hopefully he'll be ready 477 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 4: at the start of the season. They made their move 478 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: during the trade deadline with the trade with Atlanta getting 479 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 4: DeAndre Hunter. They're looking good. The Knicks do have to 480 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: hire a coach. They're gonna want some additional depth. But 481 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 4: assuming they bring back Brunson, of course, assuming they bring 482 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 4: back Towns. Doesn't seem like there's really a trade out 483 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 4: there for him, but it seems like everybody can be 484 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 4: traded at this point. I still think the Knicks are 485 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 4: probably near the top of the Eastern Conference. But then 486 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 4: you get into like all these other teams. Atlanta, Philadelphia, 487 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 4: Orlando is gonna be better assuming they can stay healthy. 488 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 4: Detroit should be better. Milwaukee still has Giannis, the Pacers 489 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 4: still have Siakam, the Celtics still have Jalen Brown. Like, 490 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 4: there's still an All Star on all these teams, but 491 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 4: just one All Star rather than a couple of them. 492 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 4: So you know, three through eight is probably gonna be 493 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 4: pretty tight in the Eastern Conference. 494 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 2: Does the Magic Do the Magic join the top of 495 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 2: that fat team teams. 496 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 4: Like the above the waistline part of it, I think 497 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 4: they want to, Yeah, I think they they on paper 498 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 4: probably yeah. 499 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 3: So you're yeah, it goes to Cleveland. 500 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: The New York Knicks would have to be that second seed, 501 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 2: and then I think, unfortunately because of Tatum's injury and 502 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 2: Haliburton's injury. I guess they get lumped in with the 503 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: Pistons and the Magic. I mean the Bucks are there, yeah, 504 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 2: and the Hawks are there yeah yeah, set them all, 505 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 2: I guess. 506 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 5: I mean, I think if the Pistons taken there next step, 507 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 5: then they're been that top four ish range for sure. 508 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. 509 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 5: And then like you said, the Magic, like I feel 510 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 5: like they're up there. But you know, like you said, 511 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 5: the Bucks, the Bucks to have you on it, So 512 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 5: I mean he could do a lot of things in 513 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 5: the regular season. 514 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 6: That's the thing. 515 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good. I mean, it's this. It's honestly the 516 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 4: case every year. It's going to come down to health. 517 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 4: The Magic were a great team last year until Paula 518 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 4: Bancaro missed a third of the season and Franz Wagner 519 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 4: missed a third of the season. The Pacers were ten 520 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 4: and fifteen until them Heart and Nie Smith got healthy 521 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 4: and then they went on an absolute tear. It's going 522 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 4: to be who can stay on the court and perform 523 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 4: because there's some playoff caliber teams, I think from three 524 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 4: to eight, and we'll see who's gets seventy games out 525 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 4: of their second and third best players because that'll determine 526 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 4: the East, and then once we get to the playoffs, 527 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 4: it's all matchups. But it's interesting. I think the Hawks 528 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 4: are interesting here. I think the Celtics did what they 529 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 4: wanted to do, saving some money, and the Nets are 530 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 4: just being smart, being a bad team but doing good 531 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 4: business stuff. So I kind of think for a three 532 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 4: tame team trade win win win win win win win. 533 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't. 534 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: I went back to just check on the standings because 535 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: as you were talking about the. 536 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 3: Hawks, esh, I felt like. 537 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 2: This was such a good Hawks team for a while 538 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: the NBA Cup time, I mean, they felt like they 539 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: were gathering a lost team. They peaked at twenty two 540 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: to twenty, which you know, it's like a five hundred team, 541 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: and then with Jalen Johnson out around that time, it 542 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: was over. And it's pretty important, as you just said, trade, 543 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: it's about the guys who are playing, and I truly 544 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: do wonder. Unfortunately, if Jalen Johnson or Kristaps Porzingis will 545 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 2: play more games this year. Because Jalen Johnson, as young 546 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 2: as he is, he's anywhere close to thirty, he does 547 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 2: miss time. He only played thirty six games last year 548 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 2: fifty six games. The year before that, he did have 549 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: a good one in a second year seventy games, but 550 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 2: twenty two in year one. And we all know about 551 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: Kristaps Porzingis, So it's really dependent on those guys. They 552 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: have a lot of talent though, So I can't wait 553 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 2: to see Kris STAPs in the middle. I mean, they 554 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 2: just need they needed a big guy, but they do 555 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 2: have more depth, and I guess the Lakers or the 556 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 2: Lakers we talked about Eve Misci being replaced with New Orleans. 557 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: That could be a Clint Capella destination because he's leaving 558 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: Atlanta now that Porzingis and a Yakakong wear there. 559 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 3: It has to happen. 560 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 4: He's a free agent, I think, right, and he'll be 561 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 4: one of the bigger backup centers can get out there. 562 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 4: So you know, Capella has had his moments. He's at 563 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 4: the end of his career for sure, he's slowed down, 564 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 4: but he can give some team some minutes, a team 565 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 4: like the Lakers that needs a big guy for sure. 566 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 567 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 4: It's sad to mention, for sure, Capella to the Lakers 568 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 4: right now. Yeah, I saw that in our slack earlier. 569 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 4: But man, what a day three podcasts. I saw the 570 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 4: stream team earlier was saying our record was during the 571 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 4: twenty twenty two trade deadline. We did our normal show 572 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 4: in the morning and then three emergency podcasts, setting the 573 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 4: record at four in a day. And look, we could 574 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 4: be back here in the emergency room a little bit 575 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,239 Speaker 4: later tonight, but I'm gonna go play basketball. So if 576 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 4: it happens in the next hour and a half, call 577 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 4: me Magic Johnson, because I ain't gonna be there. 578 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 3: Respect. 579 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 2: You gotta get your repsin, gotta get healthy for the 580 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 2: twenty four or excuse me, twenty five twenty six season. 581 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 3: We need we need you on the floor. Man. Well 582 00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 3: there you go. 583 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, great performances everybody. 584 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 3: Back to back to back jacks. 585 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 2: We will be back on Thursday, maybe before that. 586 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 4: Who gets traded into the next twelve hours So we're 587 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 4: doing a show at ten am tomorrow. 588 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 3: We shall see, But for now, Clipper bros, you heard it. 589 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 4: Here first, have a great time. Turn up, love you guys, awesome, 590 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us. And remember we've been monitoring the 591 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 4: trades all day and it paid off. 592 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 3: I sure did here I am. Oh, we're cleaned. No 593 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 3: good trades don't got to do one right now. 594 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 6: That's right.