1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Angie and this is Riley, your favorite 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Okay Stories. I'm hosts and we got some great stories 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: coming up. 4 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: But before that, we have a quick two minute break 5 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: from our sponsors that keep the show alive. 6 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 3: My husband's new car has been totaled and I don't 7 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 3: know how. 8 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 4: To tell him. 9 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 5: Maybe you just hide it from him. 10 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 4: And there's a trigger warning here for mentions of mistreatment. 11 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 3: This happened earlier today and I've i twenty eight female 12 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 3: have been in emotional wreck all day. This will probably 13 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: only make sense if I tell you a bit about 14 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 3: my ex friend. 15 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 4: Let's call her Lucy. 16 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 5: Because it was her fault. 17 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 4: Oh was it Lucy's fault? 18 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 3: I met her in freshman year of college and she 19 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: was part of a larger friend group because we all 20 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 3: lived in the same hall. For as long as I've 21 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 3: known her, she has had pretty significant mood swings. And 22 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: by the way, this comes from user throw away. 23 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 4: A new car totaled. 24 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 3: And if you want us to meet your own stories, 25 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 3: go to the hert slash Okay Storytime suburday. I'm Dakota, 26 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 3: I'm Riley, I'm key On, and we are here collectively 27 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: to give good advice kind of Goofley. 28 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 4: You know whenever you don't know everything? So what do 29 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 4: you know? We want to know? Tell us what you 30 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 4: know in the comments. 31 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 6: Tell us your secrets, and op says. 32 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 3: Sometimes Lucy was super sweet and caring person, but when 33 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: she gets stressed out, she would become harmful and blame 34 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 3: everything in the universe if there's something negative happening in 35 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 3: her life. 36 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 5: Hm, I know people like this. 37 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, her bad side has gotten progressively worse since college. 38 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 3: I could write a whole book about Lucy, but I'll 39 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: spare you the details because it's not. 40 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 4: Directly related to the advice. 41 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 3: I'm trying to get over the last couple of an 42 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: undisclosed period of time. 43 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 5: I'm gonna give it eight months. 44 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 45 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: Over the last couple of eons, each of the people 46 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 3: in our friend group have cut contact with her, and 47 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 3: I think I was probably the last one to still 48 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: respond to her. Every conversation I have with her goes 49 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: in circles, and she ends up back in a state 50 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 3: of anger and frustration, and I usually hang up when she. 51 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 4: Hurls verbal insults at me. 52 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: I met my husband twenty seven mail about three years ago, 53 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: and he has always been incredibly supportive of me. I 54 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: invented to him many times about Lucy because interactions with 55 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: her always leave me feeling emotionally drained and feeling like 56 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 3: I'm going crazy. He has encouraged me many times to 57 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: cut contact with her because it's not worth setting yourself 58 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 3: on fire to keep her warm. 59 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 5: Far that's a good one. I like that. 60 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: So earlier this month, I blocked Lucy. I blocked Lucy. 61 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: That's my favorite old TV show. Earlier today, I ran 62 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 3: into Lucy at the grocery store and she confronted me 63 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 3: about why I haven't been responding to her. She starts, yeah, 64 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: she started screaming. So I left the grocery store and 65 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 3: went home. But as I was pulling into my apartment 66 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: parking lot, I see a car speeding towards me. Sure enough, 67 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 3: it was Lucy's car. I think she was aiming for me, 68 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 3: but I steered the car away, so she ended up 69 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 3: crashing into the rear door behind me and destroying both 70 00:02:53,240 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 3: our cars. Versus wild though, your buddy Lucy just did 71 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: have tried to do a vehicular man on you. 72 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 5: Right now, Joe, I don't even think about that. 73 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that you could sue. No, like she needs 74 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 4: to be in jail. She needs to go to prison 75 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 4: for that. That kind of person can't just be wandering. 76 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 5: Around aiming their car at you. 77 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 4: Before I was able to. 78 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: Compose myself after the crash, she drove off with the 79 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: front part of her car missing. 80 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 4: I called the police and told them everything. Thankfully, I 81 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 4: am uninjured. 82 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 3: All afternoon, I've been calling insurance and trying to look 83 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: for options to get the car fixed. Nothing is finalized yet, 84 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: but the insurance agent said, judging by the pictures, he's 85 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 3: not optimistic that it's fixable or worth fixing. I know 86 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: I need to tell my husband, But how do I 87 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: tell him the car that he's been saving up for 88 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 3: for years and then spending months waiting for to arrive 89 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: is damaged beyond repair, Especially because I feel partially responsible 90 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: since in hindsight, I realized I should have cut contact 91 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: with Lucy years ago. 92 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 4: How could you possibly feel responsible for this? 93 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: You're insane, lunatic friend literally tried to to literate you. 94 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 4: With an automobile. 95 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 5: You were gonna You're gonna be turtle soup if you 96 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 5: didn't move. If he's got insurance, then it should be fine. Yeah, 97 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 5: insurance companies can't just be like, I can't do nothing 98 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 5: about that. Yeah, they can't. They can't do that. They 99 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 5: gotta do something about that. 100 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 4: If you were Yeah. 101 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 6: I don't know. 102 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 7: My insurance is pretty good. They sent like a guy 103 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 7: and they're like, yeah, this is total, Like this is 104 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 7: not salvageable. This car is totaled. You're gonna get your 105 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 7: money's worth. And I said, just call your insurance. 106 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 6: You'd be fine. 107 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean not on you. Like, she's just scared 108 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 5: right now, she just doesn't know how to get the 109 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 5: words together. 110 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, you just gotta tell your boyfriend that someone tried 111 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 4: to unalive you today. Lead with that first lead with 112 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 4: I am the victim of here, I am all. 113 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 5: Here we go, babe. I was almost alive today. And 114 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 5: if it wasn't for your car. 115 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 7: You saved my And you know what that means. You're 116 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 7: priceless or I'm priceless, okay, prices. 117 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 5: If you frame it like that, I think you'll be fine. 118 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 3: A part of me knows that outwardly, he'll brush it 119 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 3: off and say that he's just happy I'm safe and 120 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 3: that objects can be replaced. But I'm scared that he'll 121 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,559 Speaker 3: present me Oh so he's actually already a good guy 122 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: and go come on, Oh, come on. 123 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 4: He loves this car. 124 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: He has a strong sentimental attachment to it because it's 125 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: his first car, and he's even given it a cute nickname, 126 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: like a pet. We joke about how it's like his 127 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: firstborn child. We don't have any kids yet. 128 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 4: And it's the holidays. 129 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: What kind of crap holiday present is it to find 130 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: out that your brand new car that you got two 131 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 3: weeks ago got totaled. 132 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 4: I've tried looking. 133 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: At ways to buy him a new one, but I 134 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 3: obviously can't make such a big financial decision without discussing 135 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: it together. And the other problem is current delivery times 136 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: for this car is ten plus months. 137 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: It's a tesla for anyone wondering why it takes so long? 138 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 5: Oh, I see no, it's. 139 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: All the best we could buy used, but used prices 140 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: are even higher than new, and the used cars have 141 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: twenty thousand plus miles on them. He's on a business 142 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: trip right now and we'll be coming back on Friday 143 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 3: for the holidays. 144 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 6: Happy holidays, surprise. 145 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: I'm struggling between deciding to tell him now or telling 146 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: him in person when he gets back. What words can 147 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: I even use to tell him? And there are some 148 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 3: relevant comments here. 149 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 5: You tell him right now. Yeah, you say I almost 150 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 5: passed away, Yeah, and your car saved me. 151 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 6: Yeah. I would like why have him come home and 152 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 6: surprise him with all of this? 153 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, they'll do that. 154 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would tell him right now. 155 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 156 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 3: Relevant comments DEV two four six has has Lucy been arrested? 157 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 158 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: Asking the relevant questions, it sounds like you need a 159 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: restraining order, Opie says. The police arrested her and called 160 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 3: me to let me know about an hour later. Apparently 161 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: it wasn't too hard because she was at home and 162 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: the front part of her car was missing. My sweet 163 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 3: Summer sixteen says, Then, honestly, just call your husband and 164 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: tell him to start off with I'm okay, but unfortunately 165 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,119 Speaker 3: this psycho literally rammed her car into yours. I've already 166 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: called the insurance company. She's been rested, blah blah blah. 167 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 3: It's a car, it wasn't your life. So hopefully he's 168 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: a bit considerate and understanding. Chryssier says, Yep, I don't 169 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 3: understand why Op's apprehensive about telling this to your husband 170 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 3: when a psycho just literally tried to get her. If 171 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,119 Speaker 3: the husband actually does get upset at her. That should 172 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: tell you where his priorities lie. And there's an update 173 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: from five days later. 174 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 5: Like I said, good test. 175 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 4: Yes, that's what we all. It's all about the test. 176 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: I posted earlier this week to ask for advice about 177 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 3: how to tell my husband his new car got totaled 178 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 3: when the ex friend that I cut off earlier this 179 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: month rammed into me. I appreciate everyone taking the time 180 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: to give me advice. I wasn't thinking clearly, and it 181 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 3: was really helpful to get some online strangers to talk 182 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 3: some sense into me. In hindsight, I was too hyper 183 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 3: focused on the car, and I didn't really fully process 184 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: the fact that someone I've known for seven plus years. 185 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 4: Almost actually he unlived me. 186 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: As for breaking the news to my husband, that didn't 187 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 3: turn out quite the way I expected. 188 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 4: I knew that I had to tell. 189 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: Him as soon as possible, and I was trying to 190 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: figure out the best way to phrase it. About twenty 191 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: minutes after I made my post, he actually called me 192 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: in a panic because he was afraid I was in 193 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: a coma, in the hospital or something. Turns out, his 194 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: Desla in the phone app has a lot more bells 195 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: and whistles than I knew about it sent him notifications 196 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 3: and videos from the car's cameras about the crash, but 197 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: he didn't see them until the evening. His company has 198 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 3: a strict policy about only company issued phones being allowed 199 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: to be turned on while in the tech center office, 200 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 3: so when he finished work and pulled out his personal phone, 201 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 3: he was greeted by multiple notifications that a crash had 202 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 3: occurred and links to the videos. Since by that point 203 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 3: it had been many hours since the crash, he was 204 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 3: terrified that I had been seriously injured. At first, he 205 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 3: was incredibly upset with me for not calling him immediately 206 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: on his work phone. After I apologized profusely and explained 207 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: the whole story, his frustration turned to concern, and he 208 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: insisted I go see a doctor to get a full physical, 209 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: even though I felt fine. He then got the first 210 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 3: flight he could find the next morning, and he's been 211 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: spending the last few days with me and taking his 212 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 3: work meetings remotely. I've apologized a couple times for not 213 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 3: cutting my ex friend Lucy off earlier before my husband 214 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: came into my life, which is a crazy. 215 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 4: Thing to apologize for. 216 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 3: You can't apologize for somebody being an uneashed maniac ran their. 217 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:21,599 Speaker 4: Car into yours. 218 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 5: There's nothing to do with cutting off a friend, and 219 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 5: that was in the past. Girl, You're good, it happens. 220 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: I've apologized for the loss of his car, but each 221 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: time he just brushes it off and says something that 222 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 3: melts my heart, like. 223 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 4: Well, I'm just happy that the car did its job 224 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 4: and protected. 225 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 3: You from lucy or a car is a thing and 226 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 3: things are replaceable and you are not. 227 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 4: Ah, but you are my loomest thing, you know, I'm saying. 228 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 5: Ew. 229 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 4: He didn't say that part, but maybe he should have. 230 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 4: That was kind of the vibe though maybe he should 231 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 4: have said that something to think about. 232 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 3: The insurance paperwork still isn't finalized yet, but it's looking 233 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: increasingly likely that the car will be a total loss. 234 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 3: I think my husband and placed in order or at 235 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 3: least too seriously contemplating placing. 236 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 4: A new order for a new car. 237 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 3: We'll probably have to wait ten to twelve months to 238 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: get it, but in the meantime we still have my 239 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 3: car to drive and we'll figure something out. My husband 240 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 3: also wants us to do some marriage counseling because he 241 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 3: says I have a tendency to avoid or push off 242 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 3: difficult conversations. After this week, I realize he's probably right, 243 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 3: so we'll be exploring that early next year. As for me, 244 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 3: I'm glad I escaped the crash mostly unscathed. I got 245 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 3: an urgent care appointment for the next day, and the 246 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 3: doctor concluded there wasn't anything seriously wrong with me, but 247 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 3: recommended I get a more comprehensive check from my primary 248 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 3: care physician next week. Two of my teeth have been 249 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: hurting since Tuesday, and I'm not sure if it's related 250 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 3: to the crash. My husband suspects I might have bitten 251 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: down too hard on my teeth as I was bracing 252 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 3: myself for the crash and cracked something, but I made 253 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: an appointment with the dentist next week to check. In 254 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 3: my original post, I didn't say much about what happened 255 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 3: with Lucy after the crash because the post was already 256 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 3: getting long and it wasn't directly relevant to the advice 257 00:10:59,360 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: I was seeking. 258 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 4: But the police arrested her soon after the crash and 259 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 4: called me to let me know. 260 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 5: All right. 261 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 3: It was very easy because they found her at home 262 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: with the address I gave them, and the front section 263 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 3: of her car was missing, and they asked her if 264 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: she had been in an accident earlier that morning, and 265 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 3: she told them a harrowing tale about how she barely 266 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 3: escaped a violent motorcycle gang. 267 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 5: Well they called them a gang, not a club. She's 268 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 5: so out of touch here, what did she think? 269 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,239 Speaker 4: She just on the spot started freestyling. 270 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: She's like, yeah, I was on the highway and then 271 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: a dozen men in leather jackets surrounded my car and 272 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 3: then they all they all took out metal pipes and 273 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 3: they and they destroyed my front bumper. 274 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 5: They you know, like a motorcycle gang from like Power 275 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 5: Rangers or something. Yeah, it was like if a motorcycle 276 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 5: game was actually coming from you. They're not gonna do 277 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 5: it at like, you know, a grocery store. They're gonna 278 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 5: wait till you go home. 279 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't think they're just gonna go after 280 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 3: your front bumper, you know. I think I think they're 281 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 3: more they're gonna take a tire. Well, yeah, they're gonna 282 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 3: they're gonna they're leaving there with something. Yeah, maybe that's 283 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 3: what she said they left with. They stole the front bumper. 284 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 3: It's a very lucrative underground black market front bumper. 285 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 5: What you know, I'll give her one star out of 286 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 5: five for creativity. 287 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 288 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 3: When the police asked her why she didn't report this 289 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 3: or seek assistance from emergency responders, she looked like a 290 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: gobsmacked goldfish that was in quotes. By the way, this 291 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 3: was all told to me by the detective assigned to 292 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: my case. 293 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 4: I did not witness the arrest myself. 294 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 3: I've been in contact with the other people from my 295 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 3: college friend group that also knew Lucy, and they all 296 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 3: expressed a mixture of sympathy, mild surprise, and appreciation for 297 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 3: me giving them the heads up. 298 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 4: M mild surprise. 299 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: One of my friends actually had a situation a couple 300 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: of years ago where Lucy threatened to hurt my friend's dog, 301 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 3: Jail after she cut contact with Lucy, but nothing ended 302 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 3: up happening, so they forgot about it and moved on 303 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 3: with their lives. My husband and I are searching for 304 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: lawyers to help us with filing and restraining order, as 305 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 3: well is exploring other possible legal actions, but we haven't 306 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 3: gotten many replies back yet. Because it's the holiday is 307 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 3: it's the holiday season? 308 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 4: No one, Okay. 309 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 3: I doubt it'll be worth the time and money to 310 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: sue Lucy for damages, but it's an option we're considering. 311 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: The attorneys that we have had preliminary consultations with so 312 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 3: far have all advised us not to speak to Lucy 313 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 3: directly or speak too much about the situation publicly aside 314 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 3: from basic facts while there's pending litigation or legal considerations, 315 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 3: so I won't be posting any more about her in 316 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 3: the foreseeable future. Long story short, we're overall doing pretty well. 317 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 3: The craziness is settled down a bit, and my husband 318 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 3: and I are sticking to our planned holiday festivities. Thanks 319 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 3: again for everyone's input and Happy a Holidays. 320 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't talk to Lucy anymore. 321 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 4: We've got some final comments here. 322 00:13:55,480 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 3: Oh gosse Agentox says a violent motorcycle gang Lucy doesn't 323 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: strike me as being the best liar. 324 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 4: Huh. 325 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 3: As for your teeth, I think your husband's suspicions you're 326 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 3: probably right. I was in a car accident a couple 327 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: of years ago where I was rear ended. I ended 328 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 3: up with some tooth pain, so I went to the dentist. 329 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 3: Her first question was, did you see the car coming 330 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 3: towards you? Apparently it's common for people to damage their 331 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 3: teeth by biting down too hard while bracing themselves for 332 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: an incoming hit. 333 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 4: Opie says, the strange thing is she was actually a 334 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 4: very good liar. Back in college. 335 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 3: Our entire friend group bought into her sad stories about 336 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 3: her childhood, hook Line and Sinker. It wasn't until years 337 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 3: later that we realized she had lied about a lot 338 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 3: of things and everything unraveled. 339 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 4: But maybe we were all just too naive. That's what 340 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 4: I was gonna say. And that's the end of that story. 341 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, building is like lies that are that are building 342 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 5: are like jingle blocks. They're gonna they're gonna fall in dead. 343 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, if she was a good liar, her lies wouldn't 344 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:54,239 Speaker 4: have crumbled. 345 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 8: And that's the end of this story. We're gonna go 346 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 8: on to the next one. 347 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 5: I'm jealous of my husband's new friend because she's all 348 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 5: he talks about. Maybe she's just better than you in 349 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 5: every way. I thirty one email, love my husband thirty 350 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 5: four mail. And we've been together for nine years, married 351 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 5: for six and I have been through a lot together. 352 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 5: He has never given me a single reason to think 353 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 5: he would stray away from our relationship physically or emotionally. 354 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 5: He's an amazing father and very equally shares the household load. 355 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 5: We have a lot of up and downs like most people, 356 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 5: but generally we are a solid couple and always come 357 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 5: back to each other after disagreement, up and down, coming. 358 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 6: Back to each other and sharing their load amazing. 359 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 5: By the way, this comes from leather Set seventy three 360 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 5: And if you have to make your own stories, go 361 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 5: to the our slash okay story's up subreddit. I'm Riley Ay. 362 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 4: I'm Dakota, Hi, I'm Keon, and we're here. 363 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 5: To give good vice goofully, but we don't have any answers. 364 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 5: Do We have a little bit of some so let 365 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 5: us know what you would do in a comments down below. 366 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 5: Now on to the issue. Oh oh, he's recently embarked 367 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 5: on his mash degree. He is one of only two 368 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 5: men in his cohort of approximately eighty people. That's a 369 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 5: crazy ratio, and the only guy of our culture. We're 370 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 5: in our home country. The course and the university is 371 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 5: just incredibly multi cultured. As such, he has made a 372 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 5: lot of new female friends, most of whom don't bother 373 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 5: me at all. But there's this one thirties female. I 374 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 5: think that I just don't like his friendship with and 375 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 5: I know I'm being unreasonable. They text all the time, 376 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 5: like multiple times a day. Mind you. He isn't secretive 377 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 5: about this at all. He doesn't hide his phone or 378 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 5: anything like that. I can see her name at the 379 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 5: top of his screen. He talks about her all the time, 380 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 5: how she's so nice and all the cool things she's done. 381 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 5: He also spends a lot of time with her. They 382 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 5: have just decided to collaborate on a research project together 383 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 5: for a conference in twenty twenty six, and as such 384 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 5: they will likely be spending either more time together. Oh no, 385 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 5: recipe for a disaster, low key. Frankly, I'm sick of 386 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 5: hearing about how nice and amazing this other woman is. 387 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 5: She's also annoyed the heck out of him at times, 388 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 5: like blowing like hot and cold at him when she 389 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 5: has perceived Like what. 390 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 4: No way, dude. 391 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 3: If you got like a friend, a lady friend, and 392 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 3: she's doing hot and cold on you as friends, Nah, 393 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: that's gross. 394 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is that's weird. 395 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 3: She's trying to like, that's that's girlfriend territory. I'm not 396 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 3: dealing with hot and cold unless my girlfriend. 397 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, that's come on what are we doing? 398 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 5: Blowing like hot and cold at him when she has 399 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 5: perceived he has done something wrong, though it's probably cultural 400 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 5: differences that triggers this, and he'll talk about this too. 401 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 5: It's like watching someone discuss the beginnings of a relationship, 402 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 5: the euphoria of dating someone new, plus all the baggage 403 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 5: they come with as they work through it, which is 404 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 5: a weird thing to watch your husband go through. I 405 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 5: don't believe it's anything more than I have described above 406 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 5: when I said I didn't think it was appropriate for 407 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 5: him to be messaging her as frequently as he has been, 408 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 5: and if the shoe was on the other foot, does 409 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 5: he really think he would be okay with me messaging 410 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 5: a man as frequently? And he offered to let me 411 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 5: read all their messages, which I didn't, So I really 412 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 5: don't think he's hiding anything. I obviously don't want him 413 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 5: to start being secretive about it, so I said I 414 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 5: would drop it. I just feel annoyed and jealous, like 415 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 5: every time I see her name pop up on his phone. 416 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 5: I don't even think he's physically attracted to her. We 417 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 5: have great, spicy sleep life, and this is not something 418 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 5: I feel insecure about lies. 419 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 4: I detect lie. You don't feel insecure. 420 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 3: Weren't insecure about it, you wouldn't be making this. 421 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 4: Tell them it's okay, that's. 422 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 5: You, that's that's no. 423 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 4: You gotta just go to your part and be like, 424 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 4: I feel like you're gonna leave me for that lady. 425 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 4: And that isn't necessarily. 426 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 3: Your fault or hers or even mine, but it just 427 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 3: means we have things to discuss. 428 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 5: I guess she's shiny and new and interesting, and they 429 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 5: have a lot in common. I think I'm insecure about 430 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 5: not being interesting enough for him, and maybe sometimes feel 431 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 5: like he'd rather talk to. 432 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 4: Her than me. 433 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 5: I'm not used to him having female friends, so he 434 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 5: used to have many when he was younger, and I'm 435 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 5: finding this new dynamic really difficult. Any advice as to 436 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 5: how I can just get over it and accept this 437 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 5: new friendship as it is? And we have some comments, 438 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 5: I say. 439 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 4: Duel, duel, good old fashioned duel. 440 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 5: You guys can pick the weapon, but yeah, duel. 441 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you guys should duel with curling irons. 442 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 3: You just had to burn eat that. 443 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 4: No, I like, honestly, honestly, I. 444 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 3: Think you just need to go to your your your 445 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 3: your partner and be like, you're not gonna leave me 446 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 3: for her, Right, You're not gonna write because that's what 447 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:00,479 Speaker 3: that's I'm at. 448 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 4: Like, you guys are studying the same thing. 449 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 3: You guys, she's so cool, you're not gonna leave her 450 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 3: for you can leave me for her, right, Yeah, you 451 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 3: tell me that. 452 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 4: Right, You're not gonna do that. 453 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 8: Right. 454 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 5: Oh, that'd be awkward, right, hope not comment. Sounds like 455 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 5: your fear is that she's becoming emotionally stimulating in a 456 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 5: way that you're not. So the solution is not to 457 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 5: restrict him from being her friend, is to reignite the 458 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 5: spark in your marriage. You don't need to go into 459 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 5: competition with her, but your feelings warrant a deeper discussion 460 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 5: with him about your emotional experience and what will help 461 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 5: you feel secure at the end of the day, I'm 462 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 5: spent with a friend, texting, phone calls in person shouldn't 463 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 5: exceed time invested in your relationship. If you're not already 464 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 5: doing this, start dating again. Sometimes we get stuck in 465 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 5: our daily routines, so initiate experiences together, like trying a 466 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 5: new restaurant, class trip, Bobby Parvel, intention connection time where 467 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 5: you're not discussing logistics or children. Great rituals like weekly 468 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 5: check ins, Friday night wine and music at home or 469 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 5: out Sunday morning coffee walks together or with the kids. 470 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 5: If he ever becomes resistant to this in favor of 471 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 5: spending time with her, or he's constantly distracted by her 472 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 5: during your time, then I'd start worrying. It doesn't sound 473 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 5: like your marriage is threatened at this point, especially if 474 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 5: he's being transparent, as there's still affection between you two, 475 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 5: but the relationship could benefit from infusing some fresh energy 476 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 5: since he's getting a ton from school. No P replies, 477 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 5: this is really good advice. Thank you. We've tried to 478 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 5: do a bit more dating in recent months, as we 479 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,719 Speaker 5: both acknowledge how it's easy to just sort of forget 480 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 5: about one another with how busy we both are and 481 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 5: with kids. Trying to make it more of a regular 482 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 5: thing probably is in order. Though we do have a 483 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 5: going out date books in a couple of weeks babysitter 484 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 5: and Everything Loo, and we actually went out during the 485 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 5: day a couple of weeks ago as well, so it 486 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 5: is there, but could definitely be more frequent. Thank you. 487 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 5: Update twenty three days later, love that movie Divorce Michael Jordan. 488 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 4: The owning is divorce. O'clock, dude, I think the divorce. 489 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 4: I just look. I see some weird comments people. Somebody said. 490 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 3: Somebody said something along the lines of, like I understand 491 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 3: having female friends before you're married, but like, how could 492 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 3: you do it after you're married? 493 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 4: Like why? 494 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? 495 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 3: It's like what I mean, guys, I'm joking, Like women 496 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 3: don't cease to exist once you. 497 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 4: Are in a relationship. 498 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 5: I was a little worried, you know, like, uh, and. 499 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: He's in his doctorate programmers master's program, like seventy eight 500 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 3: of his eighty classmates are women. So it's like you're 501 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 3: just gonna like not talk to or bond with any 502 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 3: of his classmates. 503 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 4: You can be proudly possible, he has to You can 504 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 4: do that. You can be friends with lady and be 505 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 4: and be dedicated to your lady. You know. 506 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I am more friends with girls that I had 507 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 5: before I dated Angie. But I don't know, I don't 508 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 5: like going one on one out with girls that are 509 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 5: my friends. Un this is like Sophia, that's the only 510 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 5: like girl I would go hang out. 511 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna take her on a dinner date. 512 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 3: But it's like, that's you know, I don't think that's 513 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 3: what he's doing at all, you know. 514 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 5: Anyways, we have an update twenty three days later. This 515 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 5: is not going to be a long update and we'll 516 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 5: probably not be that exciting or interesting, but some people 517 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 5: want an update for my last post. Thank you. We 518 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 5: are those people. My husband and I discussed his new 519 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 5: friend a couple of times, and he understood where I 520 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 5: was coming from. What was a bit hurt because he's 521 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 5: never done anything on our relationship to suggest he might 522 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 5: ever be unfaithful. 523 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 4: Right. 524 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 5: I don't think she was saying that. She was just 525 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 5: kind of a little uncomfortab about y'all's friendship. That's it. 526 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 5: I believed him when we talked about it. But he 527 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 5: thought it would be better if I could just meet 528 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 5: her and try to understand a bit better. And I agreed, 529 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 5: Oh wow, we're gonna have dinner together. Ah half I Oh, 530 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 5: it's a caffine. 531 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 3: Sounds like, I mean, hey, maybe you guys become best friends. 532 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 3: Simple solution, Simple solution, You guys are now best friends. 533 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 5: Wholla, and then y'all get together and leave him sligh. 534 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 5: We had a few friends over for his birthday last 535 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 5: night and she came. The birthday gift she got him 536 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 5: was a picture of my whole family, me, hubs and 537 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 5: the kids and even the dog that she made herself digital. 538 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 5: She's a bit of a graphic designer on a linebox. 539 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 5: It's really beautiful and I think it's a lovely president 540 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 5: because it includes me and the kids. She was incredibly 541 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 5: respectful all night. We actually have a bare mounta in 542 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 5: common with some shared interests and shared experiences. We both 543 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 5: have been scuba diving and are interested in marine conservation 544 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 5: and are interested in SpongeBob SquarePants. She just seems generally 545 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,479 Speaker 5: very nice, not fake at all, and her being around 546 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 5: very akin to my husband's other female friend that we 547 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,239 Speaker 5: also had over as well. All that to say, I 548 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 5: am no longer concerned about anything dodgy developing in her 549 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 5: and my husband, and certainly don't think anything on tour 550 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 5: it has happened as. 551 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 4: Yet, no nailed it. 552 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 5: Oh. Also, I caught a glimpse of their messages this morning, 553 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 5: and she was messaged him about how nice I seemed, 554 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 5: and he was talking about how cool I am. That 555 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 5: wasn't performative because he didn't tell me about it. It 556 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 5: was just a part of their conversation they were having, 557 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 5: the rest of which was about the Japanese curry my 558 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 5: husband made last night. I don't know. I'm sure Reddit 559 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 5: will tell me I'm being stupid or naive, but it 560 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 5: just feels very innocent now that I've actually met her. 561 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 4: Well that's a yeah. 562 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 3: The thing in that is like once you become like 563 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 3: threatened by someone else, like with it when it's like 564 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 3: a friendship, Yeah, your partner has like now you're like 565 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 3: hyper aware and you're gonna see every interaction that they have, 566 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 3: Like even if it's not anything, it's now going to 567 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 3: be like, oh, well that's all the time. 568 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 4: That was telling from the very beginning. 569 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 3: You station he texts her all day and then it's 570 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 3: like multiple times a day. 571 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 4: It's like those are completely different. 572 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 5: Like using the word all the time or never, it's 573 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 5: those are dangerous words. 574 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's like, I mean, how could you Like, 575 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 3: I'm breathing all the time, and unless I'm swimming, so 576 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 3: even that's not true. 577 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 4: Sometimes I hold my breath because. 578 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 5: You shower too, you have to hold your breath? What new? 579 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 5: What do you mean? Because the water will get in 580 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 5: your nose if you don't hold your breath under the water. 581 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 4: You hold your breath when you shower. 582 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, and that's the end of this story. We're gonna 583 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 8: go on to the next one. 584 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 3: I discovered my husband's messages where he said he regrets 585 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: marrying me. 586 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 5: Or maybe he just regrets it. 587 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe he was a typo. 588 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 3: I'm six months pregnant and got married a few months ago. 589 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 3: In every relationship I've been in, I've made it very 590 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 3: clear that my mom will live with me until she 591 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: passes away. She is very, very ill and I've been 592 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 3: taking care of her for years. She's still my best 593 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 3: friend and I love her very much. I wouldn't change 594 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 3: that for the world. And by the way, this comes 595 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 3: from user direct Anonymous two three six And if you 596 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 3: want to submit your own stories, go to the r. 597 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 4: Slash showcase story time subberd it where this story was submitted. 598 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 4: I'm Dakota, I'm Riley, I'm Keon, and we're here to. 599 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 3: Give good advice. But we're a goofy, We're a goofball. 600 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 3: You don't know everything well, you know by that and 601 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 3: if you know anything else to add on to that, 602 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 3: then then you can you can tell us in the comments. 603 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 5: Please, we'll read them. 604 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 3: And op says, a couple of weeks ago, I went 605 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 3: through my husband's phone. I wasn't expecting to find cheating 606 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 3: or anything like that. I was just up late and 607 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 3: bored before anyone says anything. 608 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 4: I ask my husband all the. 609 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 3: Time if there's anything I can work on or do better, 610 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 3: and I genuinely try to communicate to make sure we're 611 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: on the same page. I always get the same answer, 612 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 3: that I'm perfect and he's happy. Maybe he has avoidant 613 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 3: attachment style. I've decided to search my name in his 614 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 3: messages and found a ton of them. At first, I 615 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 3: thought they were all from before we got married. I 616 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 3: was very wrong. They were from the night before. He 617 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 3: was telling a female coworker that he was second guessing 618 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 3: the marriage and asking if he was in over his head, 619 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 3: along with other things like that what He also said 620 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 3: that he hates my mom and that he's stuck with 621 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 3: her until she croaks, and that there are a lot 622 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 3: of other pretty girls out there. 623 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, yo, boil boy, this is not good. 624 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 3: How long do you have to be married until you're 625 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 3: entitled to his assets? Oh wow, No, I'm just thinking 626 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 3: like you have a kid, de raise and you have 627 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 3: your mom to take care of if you're in a divorce, 628 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 3: this guy. 629 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 4: You're leaving with something. 630 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 3: You know, If he's talking to his coworker about this, 631 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 3: then he can also talk to his coworker about how 632 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 3: he's gonna have to borrow money from her because he 633 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: needs to pay you. 634 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 4: Okay, d what the heck? 635 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 5: And you didn't suspect this at all either? That's crazy. 636 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, op bless this girl's heart because she was 637 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 3: basically like, what the f? She didn't even know we 638 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 3: were already married. He told her that we were though. 639 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 3: Then I remember that he writes down his feelings sometimes, 640 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 3: so I checked his notes app and there was a 641 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: note written as if it was to someone, saying things like. 642 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 4: What if it was supposed to be her all along? 643 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 4: Oh oh no. 644 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: I later found out it was about someone he used 645 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 3: to go to school with. This is all written very rushed, 646 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 3: but I truly don't know what to do. I did 647 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 3: confront him about it, and he said things like it 648 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 3: was just an in the moment feeling and that he 649 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 3: doesn't actually feel that. 650 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 5: Way, oh my gosh. 651 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 3: Which like can be true, but like, dude, like that's 652 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 3: just like a like how can you You can't. 653 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 4: How are you gonna write stuff like that? 654 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 5: You can just say that you can't voice that coworker. 655 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't voice that to a female cowork You 656 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: spent like all a bunch of time with all the time, 657 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 3: and then you have this other note. 658 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 4: Where you're like, maybe this other person was the one. 659 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 3: It's like, all right, well then why are we getting 660 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 3: Why do we get married? 661 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 4: What is wrong with you this? Yeah? And to be fair, also, 662 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 4: this is all stuff that's suposed to happen before you 663 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 4: get married. These are all thoughts you have to think 664 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 4: and work through before marriage. 665 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I don't know, also having a kid. 666 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not even kidding. 667 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 3: Figure out exactly whatever, whatever amount of time you have 668 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 3: to stay with this thing to like be entitled to 669 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 3: his money, do that and then and then begone. I 670 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 3: feel like I'm not getting the answers I need to 671 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 3: either move on or move forward. I'm extremely protective of 672 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 3: my mom, and I don't understand how he could say 673 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 3: something like that about her. I'm just very confused about 674 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 3: what to do and where to go. He never seemed different, 675 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 3: and of course every marriage has problems, but he genuinely 676 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 3: seemed happy. There was no slowdown in our spicy sleep 677 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 3: life at all. I found out while reading the messages 678 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 3: that he even tried to initiate right after texting all 679 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 3: of those things. Everything seemed so normal, and I'm so 680 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 3: confused about how he could be having these thoughts while 681 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 3: acting the same way towards me. I'm hurt and can't 682 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,959 Speaker 3: stop thinking about it. But he's been acting completely normal 683 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 3: even after I talked to him about it. 684 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 4: Any advice would be highly appreciated. We have some comments. 685 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 3: COMI one, I advise you to go to couples counseling. 686 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 3: You must have known you would find what you did 687 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 3: and probably left it as a plant because he doesn't 688 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 3: know how to confront you directly. You two are about 689 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 3: to have a child, and he might be getting freaked 690 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 3: out with cold feet. 691 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 7: I don't know this that like that's some really intense stuff. 692 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 7: There's a difference to your like cold feet and like 693 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 7: some waiting for your waiting for my in law to. 694 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 6: Croak is. 695 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, Like it's the and the fact that he 696 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 3: could say all that and then immediately like go to 697 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 3: you like nothing's wrong, and then try to initiate like 698 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 3: this is sposset times. 699 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,959 Speaker 4: None of your people is so disturbing, it's just crazy. 700 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 4: It's just good. 701 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 3: And the masking is so high level, it's like even 702 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 3: if you guys do go to counseling, it's like he'll 703 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 3: probably just continue to lie, to mask and lie, not 704 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 3: really get to anything that's real. I don't know take 705 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 3: all his money, Opie says. I don't think he would 706 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 3: have known, because I've never gone through his phone before. 707 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 3: I've never had any reason to comment. Two says, I 708 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 3: hardly know what to say to you. How did you 709 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 3: broach this with him? What did he say? Ope says 710 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 3: I was trying not to cry and he could probably tell. 711 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 3: And I just told him, like step by step, everything 712 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 3: I knew and how it hurt me. And we had 713 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 3: an extremely long talk about it, and he was reassuring 714 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 3: the whole time that he wanted to be with me 715 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 3: and only me. But it was so confusing for me 716 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 3: because the messages and the conversation were only two days apart. 717 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 3: So I don't even know how to tell how he 718 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 3: really feels. 719 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 4: And there's a net it. My mom is fifty, which 720 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 4: is kind of young. 721 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 3: For her health problems. She had a heart attack a 722 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 3: few years ago. She also has a crooked spine, problems 723 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 3: with her legs going numb and giving out, craves, disease, 724 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 3: and many other issues. On top of that, she takes 725 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 3: a ton of medication. We've been fighting with disability for 726 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 3: the last three years and finally had a court date 727 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 3: and now we're waiting for an answer. The medical doctor 728 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 3: helping with dis is completely on her side and doesn't 729 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 3: think she would be capable of any type of work. 730 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 4: My husband and I both work twelve hour shifts, so 731 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 4: she does what she can. For our house. 732 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 3: It's not always perfectly clean, but we don't live in 733 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 3: a magazine. We always have a hot meal ready when 734 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 3: we get home from work. She helps in every way 735 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 3: she can. She does our laundry once a week because honestly, 736 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 3: we're exhausted and always have something to do on our 737 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 3: days off. 738 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 4: I love my mom. 739 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 3: She's my best friend, and I'm so grateful for everything 740 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 3: she does. My husband and I have only been together 741 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 3: a little over a year, which is a very short time. 742 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 3: Our relationship progressed extremely quickly. It sort of informs how 743 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 3: he could be thinking or saying all this stuff. 744 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 5: Have some regrets happen so quick. 745 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 4: But it's still like, it's just so insane. 746 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, to put yourself in this business way he's. 747 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 4: Doing it is insane. I'm currently six months pregnant. 748 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 3: Our relationship started out very rocky, not from fighting, but 749 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 3: because he was still in a lease with his ex. 750 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 3: When she said jump, he jumped. She lived forty five 751 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 3: minutes away. He moved in with me right away because 752 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 3: of their rocky relationship. It started as him staying the 753 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 3: night and then he just never left. Oh girls, sounds 754 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 3: so bad. For the first five months, he didn't pay rent, 755 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 3: help clean, or really do anything at all. So for 756 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 3: half of your relationship he did nothing and was just 757 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 3: a burden. Okay, We financially supported him during that time. 758 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 3: After he finally broke the lease with her, things slowly 759 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 3: got better. We ended up moving houses and now we 760 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 3: split things fifty to fifty other than personal bills. We 761 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 3: got married about three months ago. Here's a breakdown of 762 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 3: everything he said, my feelings about it, and his response 763 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 3: when I asked him first, he said, he hates my mom, 764 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 3: thinks she's a leech, and that he's stuck with her 765 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 3: until she croaks. So that's gonna be hard to work 766 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 3: through and I'll just put that. 767 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 6: That's the first thing. By the way, that's the first thing. 768 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, those were mean words. 769 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yea yea ye. 770 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,439 Speaker 3: I love my mom and I made it clear from 771 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 3: the beginning that she would be with me until the 772 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 3: day she passes away. I would never change that for anyone. 773 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 3: I understand that he may not understand my relationship with her, 774 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 3: but she truly is my best friend. She goes above 775 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 3: and beyond for us, and she does not have to 776 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 3: do any of it. That's the other thing that really 777 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 3: gets me is it's not like your mom is like 778 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 3: a like a mean, difficult person that can help out 779 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 3: of like the kindness of your heart. Your mom just 780 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 3: sounds like a good person who's like got a crazy 781 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 3: bad hand of like you know, illnesses and it is 782 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 3: basically disabled, is fighting particibility. And and he lived in 783 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 3: her house for free for five months with you this guy, 784 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 3: this guy, this guy. 785 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 5: No no no, no, no, no, no, he doesn't get it. 786 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 3: And this is why you deserve you stay with him 787 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 3: until you get all that money, whatever it is the 788 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 3: arrangement is. 789 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 5: And if there is no arrangement, you get whatever you 790 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 5: get right now, whatever, Leave him. I don't know he's 791 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 5: calling her least just what I'm saying. 792 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 3: Come on, I don't know how I'm supposed to get 793 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 3: over him saying something like that about someone so important 794 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 3: to me. 795 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 4: You're not You're not supposed to get over that. 796 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 3: Second, he said he's second guessing the marriage and that 797 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 3: there are other pretty girls out there. I could understand 798 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 3: pre wedding jitters, but this was after we were already married. 799 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 3: It makes me wonder if he wants a divorce or 800 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 3: wants to move out. This is the part that confuses 801 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 3: me the most. Every time he calls me pretty. Now 802 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 3: I question everything. I feel like I've changed my entire 803 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 3: life for him, and he has been the most important 804 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 3: thing to me. I question whether he even finds me attractive. 805 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 3: I question what this means for our child. I don't 806 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 3: understand how he could act so normal towards me without 807 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 3: me feeling anything off at all. He even initiated zuspasosly 808 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 3: right after sending those texts. 809 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 4: I keep questioning what's real and what's not. 810 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 3: When I asked him about this, he said it was 811 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 3: pre wedding jitters that happened just after we got married, 812 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 3: and that. 813 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 4: He wants to be with me for the rest of 814 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 4: his life, which is great. Those are great words, Those 815 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 4: are perfect words to say. 816 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 5: Pre wedding jitters. 817 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 3: You can't call the pre wedding jitters. And you did 818 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 3: it months after you got married. Yeah, that's called post 819 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 3: wedding jitters. 820 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, that is the technical term. You're right. 821 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 3: Third, there was a note in his phone that I've 822 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 3: debated posting a screenshot of. 823 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 4: There are multiple notes. 824 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 3: In one, he said he's starting to think it was 825 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 3: supposed to be her all along, and that he wishes 826 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 3: she had told him sooner, and that he's starting to 827 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 3: feel a small spark. 828 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 4: This was not about his ex. It was about an 829 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 4: old friend from high school. 830 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 3: Him and this person had never had anything before, but 831 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 3: they started catching up and she told him she used 832 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 3: to have a crush on him. 833 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 4: Oh, used used pathetic. 834 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 3: He said it made him start thinking about what ifs, 835 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 3: and that he doesn't feel that way anymore. He said 836 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 3: it was just an in the moment feeling dude, like 837 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 3: it is divorce o'clock. 838 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, but only once the bag has been secured. 839 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, you could definitely get like child payments like all 840 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 5: those Yeah, I mean, child support is one thing, but 841 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 5: that one would like, he'll be paying that regardless. 842 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know figure out exactly how to get 843 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 4: the money right. 844 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 5: And the way he's like been lying, you can just tell. 845 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 5: That's how we went around this relationship the whole time. 846 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 5: And this is this is the type of person he 847 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 5: is an Ope. You gotta sit down and ask yourself 848 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 5: if this happened to a friend of mine, what would 849 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 5: I say? And whatever you say and the advice you 850 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 5: would give to you, a friend should implement that to 851 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 5: your own relationship. 852 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 6: The friend test and OPI is one of us. 853 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,399 Speaker 5: Mm hmm, oh wow, you are one of us. That's right. 854 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 5: You deserve more OP and you're special and valued. 855 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 4: Let's finish this. 856 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 3: I didn't include ages originally because I've seen people react 857 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 3: differently based on age and I didn't want biased opinions. 858 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 3: We're both twenty one. The pregnancy was unplanned, but we 859 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 3: were both extremely excited. I've lived a lot of life 860 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 3: in a short. 861 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:39,959 Speaker 5: Amount of time. 862 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 3: I've struggled, but it made me grow up fast. I've 863 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 3: been working since I was fifteen and supporting myself. My 864 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 3: childhood wasn't the best and I didn't always have my mom, 865 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 3: but she made her amends and fought hard to do 866 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 3: right by me. After talking to him, I still don't 867 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 3: feel like I got the answers I was looking for. 868 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 3: He always gives me the same I'm perfect answers, and 869 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,919 Speaker 3: I'm tired of hearing that when this is what he's 870 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 3: telling other people. I don't know how to approach the 871 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 3: topic again. I don't know if I should even bring 872 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 3: it up because I feel like it will be the 873 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 3: same conversation with the same answers. I'm hurting, confused and exhausted. 874 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 3: Please help me understand what to do, where to go 875 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 3: from here? 876 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 6: Yeah? I want to. I want to believe this man 877 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 6: for anything he says. 878 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 3: No, zero percent, yeah, like it's always honestly, it's it's 879 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 3: it sounds backwards, but like if you can't see any 880 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 3: flaws in your partner, like that's a red flag on you. 881 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 4: Everybody has flaws. Everyone could have. She has has things 882 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 4: where you're like, oh, yeah, well that isn't my favorite thing. 883 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 5: Yuh. One of the flaws in my partner is they 884 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 5: can't speak Mandarin. 885 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 4: There you go. 886 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 5: And also a flaw of mine as well, Yeah, me too, 887 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 5: that's my flaw. 888 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 3: I can only speak a very small amount of Mandarin's 889 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 3: a very small collection of phrases like what like I'm 890 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 3: going to touch you. 891 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 5: We got to get you a different teacher. 892 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 8: And that's the end of this story. We're going to 893 00:39:58,920 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 8: go on to the next one. 894 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,959 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Riley, your favorite Southern bell. We're gonna 895 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 1: get back to these stories. But here's three minutes worth 896 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: of ads for our sponsors. 897 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 3: My boyfriend said, I'm too ambitious for wanting to chase 898 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 3: my dream. 899 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 9: I think you gotta chase down another boy today. 900 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 10: Now. 901 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 3: I've wanted to be a veterinarian since I twenty five 902 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 3: female was a young girl. As I got older, I 903 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 3: gave up on those dreams. But when I turned twenty three, 904 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 3: I decided to give it a go. I went back 905 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 3: to school and have sense achieved an associate's degree with 906 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,240 Speaker 3: a four point o GPA, and have plans to transfer 907 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 3: to a university and then go to VET school. Long 908 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 3: story short, my dreams don't seem so unattainable anymore. The 909 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 3: problem lies with my relationship. By the way, this country 910 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 3: user Fuzzy bat eight six seven eight and if you 911 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 3: want to submit your own stories, go to the r 912 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 3: slash Okay Storytime subured it. 913 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 4: I am Dakota, I'm Angie, I'm Carly, and. 914 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 3: We're here to give good advice goofully, but we don't 915 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 3: have all the answers. We're just a couple of goofballs 916 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 3: and know about our goofball stuff. So if you know 917 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 3: some stuff we don't know, why don't you just tell us? 918 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 5: In the comments? And OP says, with the way things 919 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 5: are going, I won't be done with school until I'm 920 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 5: thirty or thirty one. 921 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 4: I've always wanted to get married and have kids before 922 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 4: that age, but. 923 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 3: Since I decided to go back to school, I've reconsidered 924 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 3: when would be a good age to have kids. My boyfriend, 925 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 3: twenty four male, wants to get married and start having 926 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 3: kids this year. Although I would love to start a family, 927 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 3: I'm so torn me starting a family with him would 928 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,240 Speaker 3: require me moving states back to my hometown and taking 929 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 3: time off from school. Not only that, my boyfriend told 930 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,800 Speaker 3: me he wants to be with a woman who wants 931 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 3: to be a stay at home wife. 932 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 4: This is a text that he sent me. Quote. 933 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 3: I do not desire to be with a woman who 934 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 3: is as ambitious as yourself. It's great for you that 935 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 3: you have goals, but I want a big family and 936 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 3: a traditional relationship. If I don't decide to change my plans, 937 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 3: he and I are going to move on. I also 938 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 3: want a big family, and I have no problem with 939 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 3: prioritizing my future family when the time comes. However, I 940 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 3: just can't reconcile with the fact that he's asking me 941 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 3: to give up the dreams I've had since I was 942 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 3: a little girl. I love him so much and I 943 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 3: can't imagine my life without him, and so I have 944 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 3: been questioning if I'm making the right choice by staying 945 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 3: on this path to being a vet. I know it 946 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,879 Speaker 3: sounds stupid since I'm only twenty five, but I've been 947 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,919 Speaker 3: feeling like if I don't do this now, I might 948 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 3: not find someone to marry and start a family with. 949 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 3: This conversation with my boyfriend is making me question if 950 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 3: men just don't want to marry a woman who puts 951 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,439 Speaker 3: their career first for a while. Maybe I shouldn't think 952 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,439 Speaker 3: like that, but it's hard not to. On the other hand, 953 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 3: I feel like my boyfriend is asking me to give 954 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 3: up my dreams so that. 955 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 4: He can live out his own. So I guess I 956 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,240 Speaker 4: just need advice. 957 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on changing my plans to pursue 958 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 3: my dreams in order to make my boyfriend happy. 959 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 4: Is it worth it? 960 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 3: Would I be making a mistake if I let this 961 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 3: relationship with someone that I love go. And yeah, there 962 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 3: are some comments. I think the consensus will probably be 963 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 3: chase so dreams because I don't like that. 964 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 5: I don't like that. 965 00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 4: It's just like a because you could still you know, you. 966 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 3: Can be like quote unquote traditional without just being a 967 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 3: stay at home mom. Yeah, and I think that's weird 968 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 3: for the vibe to be like, well, no, I have 969 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 3: the last say over what. 970 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 5: You do with your life. 971 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't like any of what I just heard, 972 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 2: except for the fact that you're an ambitious woman. 973 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 9: That's what I like to hear. But everything else, no bad. 974 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 9: I don't like it. 975 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't really don't like it. 976 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,280 Speaker 9: And you know, things maybe just have to look different 977 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 9: for you. 978 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 2: Whether that means that you get married a little bit later, 979 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 2: But I don't think that should mean that you don't 980 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 2: chase your dreams. 981 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 9: You're only twenty five. 982 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're a. 983 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 2: Quarter of the way through your life, and you're going 984 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 2: to give up on the rest of your life what 985 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 2: you want to. 986 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 9: Do with the rest of it now. No, no, no, no, no, 987 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 9: we can marry a man. 988 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 2: Later, that text that he sent you to me literally 989 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 2: just said that he was breaking up with you. And 990 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 2: he was like, Oh, I just don't like how ambitious 991 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 2: you are. I'm this isn't right for me. That's what 992 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:04,839 Speaker 2: it read as. 993 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 3: I mean, that's basically where they're at. She's like, we 994 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 3: if I don't change this, we're gonna split up. 995 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 9: You should not. 996 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 4: I think you're splitting up. 997 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 9: I think you're splitting up. 998 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 2: I would change yourself from man, especially when it comes 999 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 2: to your career. Girl. 1000 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, we have some comments from op uh he Yeah. 1001 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 3: He did say a few other things that were pretty hurtful, 1002 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 3: like insinuating that my life focus should solely be on 1003 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 3: becoming a mother. Those kind of comments really made me 1004 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 3: second guess myself. I guess I just wanted to give 1005 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 3: him the benefit of the doubt that he didn't mean 1006 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 3: it the way it sounded. Sounds kind of ridiculous now 1007 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 3: that I'm typing it, lol. He's always known for a 1008 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,439 Speaker 3: very long time that I plan to become a VET, 1009 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 3: but just recently sprang this on me. I appreciate your comments. 1010 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 3: I think I know that I have to do the 1011 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 3: hard thing. It's just hard to accept at this moment. 1012 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 3: Maybe he loves me, but he certainly doesn't like me. 1013 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 3: Whoof Yeah, leave this. I've really been second guessing myself. 1014 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 3: But it's true that the man I'm meant to be 1015 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 3: with wouldn't look at my passions as a flaw and 1016 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 3: try to change me. It's just a sad thing to accept. 1017 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 3: I can't imagine giving up what I'm passionate about for. 1018 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 10: A man, a man who would one day find some 1019 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 10: other thing to pick me apart for and eventually lead 1020 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 10: me on my own. 1021 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 3: A part of me does want to see it through 1022 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 3: with him, but it feels like a bigger part of 1023 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 3: me is screaming at me not to do it. And 1024 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 3: we have an update from the same day. Thanks for 1025 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 3: the replies. I read every single one, and the general 1026 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 3: consensus is that I should not give up my. 1027 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,399 Speaker 4: Goal of being a VET. 1028 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 3: A part of me knows that, but I just was 1029 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 3: second guessing if I was making the right decision. I 1030 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 3: really love him and have been with him since I 1031 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 3: was a teenager. If I'm being honest, I left out 1032 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 3: some information in order to try to keep the responses 1033 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 3: as non biased as possible, be referring to my boyfriend 1034 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 3: as my ex period. Yeah, okay, so some important information 1035 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,280 Speaker 3: or answers to some comments that I saw. My ex 1036 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 3: has known for years about my dreams to become a 1037 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 3: VET and has only just recently sprang this on me 1038 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 3: that he doesn't want me if I go through with it. 1039 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 3: It started with me talking about the cost of VET school. 1040 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,879 Speaker 3: He then gave me an ultimatum that if I go 1041 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 3: to VET school then he's going to break up with me. 1042 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 9: He just can't afford it. 1043 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 2: He's just like, ah, I want a big wedding, So 1044 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 2: if you're going to spend all that money on VET school, 1045 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:38,879 Speaker 2: I can't have. 1046 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 9: My sparkly suit. It's so funny, like my fireworks. 1047 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 4: That's what he That's what he really wanted was a big, 1048 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 4: extravagant wedding. 1049 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 9: I can't. 1050 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 2: I can't marry someone that's spending their money on their career, 1051 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:50,800 Speaker 2: big bib. 1052 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 3: This isn't about me being the breadwinner and you having 1053 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 3: no income in me having control over you for the 1054 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 3: rest of our lives. This is purely about my Sparkley 1055 00:46:58,520 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 3: diamond suit. 1056 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 2: If you can afford both, than like by all means, 1057 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 2: but but I need fireworks at when we say I do. 1058 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 9: Okay. 1059 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 3: When I told him that I'm not giving up on 1060 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 3: that goal, he kind of went back on his ultimatum. Yeah, 1061 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 3: but then a week Yeah, a shocker. But then a 1062 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 3: week later is when he brought it up again, hence 1063 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 3: my post. So yes, he did ask me to give 1064 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 3: up being a VET. He told me that I wasn't 1065 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 3: acting like a lady that is a woman. My purpose 1066 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 3: is to be a mom and a wife, and that 1067 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 3: I have no idea how the world works. 1068 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 9: If you go to that school, you're gonna have to 1069 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 9: assist a. 1070 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 2: Cow being birthed or something. You gotta stick your hand 1071 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 2: all the way up in a cow. 1072 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 4: That's not womanly to be elbow deep and a cow's uterus. 1073 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 9: No, it is not. I can't marry someone like that. 1074 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 3: Another comment ask why I would have to move back 1075 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 3: to my hometown. I moved out of my hometown and 1076 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 3: have been in a long distance relationship ever since. My 1077 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,359 Speaker 3: ex used to tell me that his plan was to 1078 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 3: move to the new city I live in now, but 1079 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 3: he randomly decided against that. He was not willing to 1080 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 3: budge and told me many times that I would have 1081 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 3: to move back in order for us to be together. 1082 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 4: This was another point of contention for us. I know 1083 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,240 Speaker 4: what's not working, and it's this relationship. That's crazy. 1084 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 9: That's right. You can say that again, girl. 1085 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 4: So he wants a traditional wife. 1086 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 2: Uh wants this guy so he could carry out in 1087 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 2: his lite pocket and whenever he wants to have her 1088 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 2: take care of the children. 1089 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 4: He's a big old stinker. 1090 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 9: Yeah, you know. 1091 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,399 Speaker 2: Find a man that you know was excited to have 1092 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 2: that family with you and is determined to make it 1093 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 2: work with you and your job and your ambitions. 1094 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 3: Many people were wondering if he had the resources to 1095 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 3: take care of a stay at home mother and a 1096 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 3: big family. 1097 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 4: The short answer is maybe for a while. 1098 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 3: He hasn't had a stable job for months, but he 1099 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,839 Speaker 3: has a good amount of money in assets. It would 1100 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 3: be okay for the short term, but definitely would not 1101 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 3: provide the life that he or I have expressed that 1102 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,399 Speaker 3: we would want. Left all of this information out because 1103 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 3: I wanted to hear people's advice at face value, but 1104 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 3: I recognize that all of this is pretty important information. 1105 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,760 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if I'm missing any other important questions, 1106 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 3: so I'm open to answering more if needed, but I 1107 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,840 Speaker 3: think at this point the case is pretty cut and dry. 1108 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 3: He and I are broken up. I've come to the 1109 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,840 Speaker 3: conclusion that even if I did everything he wanted me 1110 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,880 Speaker 3: to do, he would still find something to put me down. 1111 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,840 Speaker 4: For and end up leaving me. Anyways. It sucks, but 1112 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 4: I guess I'll just. 1113 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,879 Speaker 3: Focus on becoming a VET and the whole family thing 1114 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,360 Speaker 3: will hopefully come when it's meant to. 1115 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,320 Speaker 4: Thanks to you guys again for your comments. 1116 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 3: I received such great advice and I appreciate what everyone 1117 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 3: said so much. 1118 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 4: And we've got more comments. 1119 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,279 Speaker 3: Comment number one man has no job and wants a 1120 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,879 Speaker 3: stay at home wife. I don't think he knows how 1121 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:51,280 Speaker 3: it works. Comment to why is it that the guys 1122 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 3: who seem to want a traditional wife the most are 1123 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 3: the least prepared to fill the role of a traditional husband. 1124 00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 3: No steady job or a low paying job that can 1125 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 3: in no way support the size family they want. They 1126 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 3: usually can't even support themselves. Opie says it's because they 1127 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,879 Speaker 3: are mediocre that they want a traditional wife. These men 1128 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 3: are losers, and they don't have the intelligence, perseverance, or 1129 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 3: the hygiene to make themselves better Therefore, the shortcut to 1130 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 3: feeling better about themselves is to latch themselves onto a 1131 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 3: system where they are above women by default. That way, 1132 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,920 Speaker 3: they don't need to do any self improvement. They can 1133 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 3: just bask in the luck of their birth. 1134 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,280 Speaker 9: That's actually really well put sentence right there. That's very true. 1135 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 8: Ah. 1136 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,319 Speaker 3: It's similar to how diddlers gravitate towards religion because the 1137 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 3: system protects them and authority instead of actually working to 1138 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 3: prove their deserving of it. Comment three says, I'm porking 1139 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,359 Speaker 3: up with you because you're too ambitious for me. Her 1140 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 3: answer should have been, oh, that works for me, because 1141 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:53,759 Speaker 3: you're not ambitious enough for me. 1142 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1143 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 2: I feel like that's a more common thing that I've 1144 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 2: heard of people breaking up because like one person isn't 1145 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 2: as ambitious as the other and they're like boring pretty much, 1146 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 2: and you are boring me. 1147 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 4: I was thinking that from the beginning. 1148 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 3: But to find in her second post that he doesn't 1149 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,760 Speaker 3: even have a job right now was just the cherry 1150 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 3: on top of this Sunday And that is the end 1151 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 3: of that story. 1152 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 9: Boom, end of the story, end of the relationship. 1153 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 2: Hey, it's Angie, your favorite fake redhead host here and 1154 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 2: we're going to get back to the stories, but here's 1155 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 2: a three minute ad break from our sponsors. I've been 1156 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 2: dating three different people without even knowing it. 1157 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 4: I think we need to up our situational awareness. 1158 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,360 Speaker 2: I don't know where to begin, so everything may sound 1159 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 2: just as confusing as I feel right now. A few 1160 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,279 Speaker 2: months ago, I started seeing a guy I met through 1161 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 2: my new job. We don't work together, we connected in 1162 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 2: an incredible way. We started out simply talking for one 1163 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 2: or two hours a day after work by video call 1164 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 2: since we were both working remotely, and almost every Saturday 1165 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 2: we would go. 1166 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,400 Speaker 9: Out to do something together normal dates. 1167 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from a great emphasis forty 1168 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 2: three to ninety three, and if you want to submit 1169 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 2: your own stories, go to the r slash Okay, storytime 1170 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 2: separate it. 1171 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 4: And I'm Angie, I'm Dakota. 1172 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 9: I'm Carly, and we're here to give good advice. 1173 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 4: Goofily. 1174 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 9: But we don't have all the answers. 1175 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 2: We just know we would do in these situations. So 1176 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 2: let us know what you would do in the comments, 1177 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 2: so Opie continues. Then he finally got a job he 1178 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 2: had been trying to get, but it was in person, 1179 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,279 Speaker 2: so we stopped the video calls. He began calling me 1180 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,439 Speaker 2: as soon as he left work, and we would talk 1181 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 2: the whole way until he got home, made something to eat, 1182 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 2: and so on. 1183 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 9: I'm talking about. 1184 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 2: Four hours or more of conversation every day Monday to Friday. 1185 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,719 Speaker 9: We stopped going out so much on Saturdays. 1186 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,720 Speaker 2: At first, I thought it was because he was tired 1187 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 2: and adjusting to working in person again after such a 1188 00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:57,919 Speaker 2: long time working from home. 1189 00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 9: But now I think he noticed that I was all 1190 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 9: becoming suspicious of something. 1191 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 2: I could say I'm very perceptive, but I think I'm 1192 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 2: simply not stupid. From the beginning, I noticed a few things. 1193 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,799 Speaker 2: Sometimes he seemed very confident, and at other times he 1194 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 2: seemed shy. Our conversation topics were very varied, ranging from 1195 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 2: very superficial everyday things like preferring to cook with garlic 1196 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 2: or onions, to deep and philosophical subjects. We have literally 1197 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 2: discussed the theories of some philosophers. 1198 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,840 Speaker 4: I think garlic is pretty philosophical. 1199 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,880 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying a person can't be interested in 1200 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 2: a wide range of topics, because I am. But it 1201 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 2: simply didn't feel like I was talking to the same person. 1202 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 2: But caught my attention. The most was his choice of words. 1203 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,280 Speaker 9: He wrote differently, spoke differently. 1204 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 2: For example, one day he would use abbreviations, the next 1205 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 2: day he wouldn't, or he would abbreviate words in a 1206 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 2: different way the same when speaking. It's hard to explain, 1207 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 2: but imagine a friend who has just learned the meaning 1208 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 2: of a word and starts using it in a conversation. 1209 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 2: You can tell, well, it's not a word that he 1210 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 2: would normally use, and that it's something new. 1211 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,640 Speaker 9: That's the feeling, only on a much larger scale. 1212 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 2: At first, I didn't think about multiple personalities obviously. In fact, 1213 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 2: until he told me that he had a dissociative identity disorder, 1214 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,280 Speaker 2: that hadn't crossed my mind at all. I just felt 1215 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,799 Speaker 2: that something was wrong. So yesterday I decided to ask 1216 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 2: him directly. We don't go to each other's homes. In 1217 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,880 Speaker 2: the title, I said he was my boyfriend, just to 1218 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 2: keep it short. But we've known each other for four months. 1219 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,400 Speaker 2: I don't know where he lives, and he doesn't know 1220 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 2: where I live either. In any case, even if I 1221 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 2: did go to his place, I think I would still 1222 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 2: have preferred to have this conversation somewhere neutral. I chose 1223 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 2: a cafe that had some more secluded tables in case 1224 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:47,839 Speaker 2: the conversation turned to very personal topics. I'm very straightforward 1225 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 2: and I hate when things are sugarcoated. So as soon 1226 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 2: as we sat down, I simply said, explain. I didn't 1227 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,800 Speaker 2: give any more context because I didn't have any Wow. 1228 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,319 Speaker 2: I just needed him to explain, and I knew he 1229 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 2: would know what I was talking about. 1230 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:02,920 Speaker 4: That's good technique. 1231 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, sit down, explain, Explain. 1232 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 2: You bring it your own, like lamp to table lamp 1233 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,240 Speaker 2: and you turn that on and shove it in their face. 1234 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 4: Explain. 1235 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 3: Explain, and you sound like an old explain your phone. 1236 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,919 Speaker 2: So he must have been expecting it, because he didn't 1237 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 2: even pick up the menu when we sat down. As 1238 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,320 Speaker 2: a positive point, I can say that he answered directly 1239 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 2: saying that he did have dissociative identity disorder. As you 1240 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,240 Speaker 2: can imagine, I started asking a lot of questions because 1241 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 2: I had. 1242 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 9: And still have many doubts. 1243 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 2: As a negative point, I can say that he left, 1244 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,360 Speaker 2: not physically, but the him who had been talking to 1245 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 2: me initially left internally. I saw his expression change, and 1246 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,320 Speaker 2: it was the strangest thing I've ever seen in my life. 1247 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,680 Speaker 9: I get chills just remembering it. 1248 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,799 Speaker 2: It was frankly frightening. I was in shock, not knowing 1249 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 2: whether to run away or say something. First thing the 1250 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,880 Speaker 2: new him did was take out a small green notebook 1251 00:55:58,920 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 2: that he always. 1252 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 9: Carries with him and flipped through the pages. 1253 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,799 Speaker 2: Then he said he would need some context and ask 1254 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 2: what we were talking about. 1255 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 9: I told him that he had told. 1256 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 2: Me about the disorder and that I was asking questions, 1257 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 2: and he completed it by saying that the coward had 1258 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:14,280 Speaker 2: run away. 1259 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 4: WHOA, this is freaky. 1260 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a little I mean, it's really it's 1261 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:21,240 Speaker 3: it's a little intense. 1262 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's intense. 1263 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,160 Speaker 9: That's intense, because I know it's like a real thing. 1264 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:31,439 Speaker 2: But I'm I'm sure even if you're being super chill 1265 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 2: with it and accepting of it and everything, I'm sure 1266 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,319 Speaker 2: it's still like pre freaky see happening in front of you, 1267 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,879 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, especially like with those words too, 1268 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,760 Speaker 2: where you like forgot everything from before. 1269 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's that's pretty gnarly. 1270 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 9: Because I thought that that's not quite what it was like. 1271 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 2: Don't you not just forget everything that just happened, like 1272 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 2: you still remember what happened? 1273 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 4: And I don't really know that much. I'm sure there's 1274 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 4: like a spectrum. I'm sure that, but. 1275 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 9: I also didn't totally All the information I have is 1276 00:56:59,160 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 9: based on movies. 1277 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,880 Speaker 4: So yeah, the movie split. Yeah, well yeah, which apparently, 1278 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:04,440 Speaker 4: but I don't think. 1279 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:09,040 Speaker 3: I don't think that one's hyper accurate all the time. Yeah, 1280 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:13,560 Speaker 3: but you know, yeah, he doesn't turn into a monster. 1281 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, the coward had run aways spooky wooky. 1282 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 2: After the initial shock and after that comment, I have 1283 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 2: to admit that really irritated me. I know this isn't 1284 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 2: a normal situation, but he left me talking to myself, 1285 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,160 Speaker 2: walked away in the middle of the conversation, and we 1286 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 2: weren't even arguing. I was just asking questions anyway. The 1287 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,800 Speaker 2: conversation continued with the new him, it became clear that 1288 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 2: I was talking to the more self confident version of him. 1289 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 2: He was relaxed, as if everything were normal. He said 1290 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 2: he was hungry and that he preferred to answer my 1291 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,760 Speaker 2: questions while eating in shorts. I felt a bit stupid 1292 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,440 Speaker 2: for not thinking about multiple personalities before, but now it 1293 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 2: all seems so obvious. I repeated the questions I had 1294 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 2: asked and that he hadn't answered. 1295 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 4: I don't think you should feel stick stupid for not 1296 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 4: considering multiple personalities. 1297 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:10,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, pretty rare. Yeah, like mental health disorder. Right. 1298 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1299 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,520 Speaker 2: I asked many questions. I won't remember all of them, 1300 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 2: but I'll mention the ones that I think are most important. 1301 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,560 Speaker 2: I asked about how many personalities he had, and he 1302 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,120 Speaker 2: said he had five diagnosed. Then I asked about specific 1303 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 2: situations in which I had noticed the changes, so I 1304 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 2: could identify who was who. Apparently, over these past months, 1305 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 2: I've had contact with three personalities. I called the main 1306 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,720 Speaker 2: one Gareth because it's the first letter of his name. 1307 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 2: He suggested calling him C for the coward, but I 1308 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 2: found that offensive. The one who usually talks to me 1309 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 2: about philosophical topics I called Paul, And the one who 1310 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,200 Speaker 2: took over to answer my questions, I called Kevin because 1311 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 2: he said he was the one who kissed me, which 1312 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,120 Speaker 2: was the only physical contact we've had so far. I 1313 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:57,800 Speaker 2: asked about the other two that I don't know, but 1314 00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 2: he didn't want to talk about them, and I didn't 1315 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 2: push it. I asked whether they communicate internally, and I 1316 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 2: felt very stupid asking that, and he said no, that 1317 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 2: they don't know what the others do and don't remember anything, 1318 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,160 Speaker 2: but they've developed a system, which is the notebook he 1319 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 2: carries everywhere. They write down what they think is important 1320 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,240 Speaker 2: so that if another one takes over their sort of 1321 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 2: up to date interesting. He also said he hardly has 1322 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 2: any triggers and that very few things cause the switching. 1323 00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 2: He said he's a functional man. He lives alone, works, 1324 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,200 Speaker 2: and so on. Some of the questions I asked seem 1325 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 2: to have offended him a bit, such as whether he 1326 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,720 Speaker 2: takes medication and what kind of treatment he has for this. Overall, 1327 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 2: I think then I ended on good terms, even though 1328 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:40,800 Speaker 2: everything was a bit strange. 1329 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 9: But he hasn't spoken to me since. 1330 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 2: He hasn't sent me any messages, and I don't know 1331 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,200 Speaker 2: whether he'll call me tomorrow when he. 1332 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,440 Speaker 9: Leaves work like he always does. This is the situation 1333 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 9: I'm in now. 1334 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 2: I like him, but we don't have a relationship that's 1335 00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,800 Speaker 2: lasted for years, and I think that if I'm going 1336 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 2: to end things, I better do it now before I 1337 00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 2: get more emotionally involved. Other hand, I wonder whether this 1338 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 2: is really a reason to end things between us. 1339 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:04,160 Speaker 9: I imagine it's. 1340 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,040 Speaker 2: Similar to being with someone who has a disability. I 1341 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,440 Speaker 2: don't know because I'm not part of that world. But 1342 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 2: those people also have relationships, get married, and start families. 1343 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 2: Am I being prejudiced? I can't deny that I'm worried 1344 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 2: about my safety. I spent today researching this and found 1345 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,800 Speaker 2: out that did is caused by some kind of trauma. 1346 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 2: Could one of his personalities be dangerous or violent? But 1347 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 2: then again, anyone could be. He didn't want to talk 1348 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 2: about the other two, but that may simply be because 1349 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 2: it's something very personal. I also don't tell him many things, 1350 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,600 Speaker 2: considering that we don't yet have the level of intimacy 1351 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:39,680 Speaker 2: needed to get into that. 1352 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 9: I even thought about asking him to give me. 1353 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 2: A report from his psychologist with basic information about each 1354 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 2: personality so i'd know what I'd be. 1355 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 9: Dealing with, But that feels extremely invasive. 1356 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like getting like an official report from 1357 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 2: your psychologist would be a little much. 1358 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 9: But if you ask him about each one, just. 1359 01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 4: I think for me, it's a little bit too much 1360 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,280 Speaker 4: for me to bite off, you know, I just, uh, 1361 01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 4: that's just how oft be you. 1362 01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think if the question of are you 1363 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,960 Speaker 3: like medicating this at all was met with. 1364 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:17,600 Speaker 4: Like sort of like hostility, m m ah, goodbye. 1365 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could understand if it's kind of like, oh, well, 1366 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 2: do you think it should like, do you think it's 1367 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,080 Speaker 2: a prop like I can understand being defensive of that, 1368 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:31,240 Speaker 2: I guess, but but yeah, I mean I I would 1369 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 2: I would want to know that too, if they would 1370 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 2: be like medicated or something of how you're treating it, 1371 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:38,160 Speaker 2: if anything to do. 1372 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, oh yeah, I know you're a little more. 1373 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm very confused, and I really need 1374 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 2: an external point of view. Has anyone ever been in 1375 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,240 Speaker 2: a similar situation or dealt with someone with the idea, 1376 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,520 Speaker 2: even if not romantically. Are these just prejudices or is 1377 01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 2: my fear valid? Should I break up with him? We 1378 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,920 Speaker 2: do have an update. I'm grateful for all the replies 1379 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 2: I've received, even the most absurd ones. Some raised new 1380 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 2: questions for me, and others simply shocked me. I'll clear 1381 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,040 Speaker 2: up a few doubts from the comments before talking about 1382 01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 2: what happened today. First of all, he didn't ignore me. 1383 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 2: I said he hadn't spoken to me since Saturday. But 1384 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 2: I also didn't message him. In other words, there was 1385 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 2: no conversation because neither of us initiated one. As for 1386 01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,720 Speaker 2: him being upset about the question, regarding medication. He didn't 1387 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,840 Speaker 2: become aggressive or irritated. It simply seems like a sensitive topic, 1388 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 2: and he appeared slightly offended. I think anyone would feel 1389 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,160 Speaker 2: that way, and his reaction seemed completely normal to me. 1390 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,880 Speaker 2: That leads me to the questions about whether he receives 1391 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,040 Speaker 2: any kind of treatment. Yes, when I asked about the medication, 1392 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,160 Speaker 2: he said he doesn't take anything, but he does there 1393 01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,160 Speaker 2: be twice a week. Regarding the switches being constant and 1394 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,000 Speaker 2: whether he's actually functional with this, I don't think the 1395 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,800 Speaker 2: switching is that frequent, as far as I can tell, 1396 01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,800 Speaker 2: I spoke to Paul once and Kevin twice. The rest 1397 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 2: of the time I interacted only with Gareth. I noticed 1398 01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,760 Speaker 2: it more because the differences were very striking, not because 1399 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,080 Speaker 2: it happened often. I'm not in contact with him all day, 1400 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:05,919 Speaker 2: only for a few hours a day, so I really 1401 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 2: can't say whether he switches throughout the day. I believe 1402 01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,280 Speaker 2: he doesn't because, as I said, he. 1403 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:12,520 Speaker 9: Lives alone and works. 1404 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,840 Speaker 2: He likes cooking, and I don't see how it would 1405 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,360 Speaker 2: be very feasible to follow a recipe if they forget 1406 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 2: things when they switch. I don't feel uncomfortable with him 1407 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,960 Speaker 2: or with the situation, I simply don't understand it. I 1408 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,920 Speaker 2: would have the same reaction if you told me he 1409 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 2: was missing a leg, or had an autoimmune disease, or 1410 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 2: anything else that was different and outside of what's normal 1411 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,560 Speaker 2: for me. I would have many questions and would wonder 1412 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,360 Speaker 2: whether it's something I should worry about and what I 1413 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 2: should take into consideration. In shorts, I have doubts, not 1414 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 2: fear about me not knowing much about him and about 1415 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,320 Speaker 2: our dates. Yes, I don't know where he lives, and no, 1416 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,600 Speaker 2: I don't know any of his family members or friends. 1417 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 2: But he doesn't know mine either, nor does he know. 1418 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:53,040 Speaker 9: Where I live. 1419 01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,920 Speaker 2: In other words, were on equal footing. I do know 1420 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,800 Speaker 2: people from his previous workplace. We were introduced, so he 1421 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:02,480 Speaker 2: isn't a complete strain. We've gone out almost every Saturday 1422 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 2: over the past four months. He didn't suddenly stop wanting 1423 01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 2: to go out, but he stopped suggesting plans. Before he 1424 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 2: was the one excited about making plans, and in the 1425 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,640 Speaker 2: past month I was the one proposing them. My assumption 1426 01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 2: is that either he was very tired from working in 1427 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,440 Speaker 2: person and simply didn't want to leave the house in 1428 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,920 Speaker 2: his free time, or he had already noticed that I 1429 01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:26,000 Speaker 2: was finding something strange and wanted to avoid being more exposed. 1430 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,959 Speaker 2: As for him hating himself or having issues with his personalities, 1431 01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:32,880 Speaker 2: I can't really say from my perspective. If he has 1432 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,880 Speaker 2: a personality that only appears intense situations and has to 1433 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,800 Speaker 2: solve the problems he gets himself into, I think I'd 1434 01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,920 Speaker 2: be irritated too, Or maybe he was just annoyed because 1435 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,040 Speaker 2: there was no information in the notebook. 1436 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:46,200 Speaker 9: The impression I. 1437 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 2: Get is that because he has did anything he does 1438 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,200 Speaker 2: is seen in a negative light, even things that are 1439 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,520 Speaker 2: perfectly normal. I see him as an intelligent, independent man 1440 01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:56,480 Speaker 2: with plans. 1441 01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:56,640 Speaker 9: For the future. 1442 01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,880 Speaker 2: He has a degree, which I imagine must have been difficult 1443 01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:02,840 Speaker 2: to achieve given his condition, and it also explains why 1444 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,680 Speaker 2: he's so reluctant to do a master's degree, even though 1445 01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,919 Speaker 2: he says it would be good for his career and 1446 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,800 Speaker 2: he has a job he enjoys. The fact that he 1447 01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,280 Speaker 2: has a disability only makes me think that he must 1448 01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,000 Speaker 2: have faced more difficulties to get to. 1449 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 9: Where he is now. 1450 01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,760 Speaker 2: He says he's functional, and I believe him, especially based 1451 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,840 Speaker 2: on what I know about him so far. He seems 1452 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,920 Speaker 2: to have found a way to function, and I find 1453 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,720 Speaker 2: that admirable. He uses the notebook a lot. I'd already 1454 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,200 Speaker 2: noticed it during our video calls. Sometimes he would stop 1455 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,760 Speaker 2: talking to write things down. I thought it was just 1456 01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 2: like a notepad where he wrote things he remembered at 1457 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 2: the moment so he wouldn't forget them again something he 1458 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,520 Speaker 2: had to do or buy, for example. But this shows 1459 01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,120 Speaker 2: that he takes seriously what must have been suggested by 1460 01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 2: his psychologists. Some new questions that came up for me 1461 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,120 Speaker 2: from the comments were about whether he had reached some 1462 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 2: kind of internal consensus about me. Could he have personalities 1463 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,920 Speaker 2: that don't like me? Until now, I had been seeing 1464 01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,040 Speaker 2: him as one person, just split but still one. But 1465 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,520 Speaker 2: this raises the question of whether I should treat them 1466 01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:05,040 Speaker 2: as separate people. Could one personality be interested in someone 1467 01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,480 Speaker 2: else and cheat on me? I know I ever think, 1468 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,000 Speaker 2: but that's how my brain works. I see one thing 1469 01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,920 Speaker 2: and think of thirty possibilities, both positive and negative. 1470 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:14,720 Speaker 9: Now the actual update. 1471 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,840 Speaker 2: He didn't talk to me at all today and neither 1472 01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,920 Speaker 2: did I, but at the same time he usually calls me, 1473 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,480 Speaker 2: he sent me a message asking whether he could call. 1474 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,240 Speaker 2: It was strange at first, as if we had seen 1475 01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,760 Speaker 2: something very embarrassing about each other and didn't know how 1476 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,920 Speaker 2: to act. There were long periods of silence on both sides. 1477 01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,800 Speaker 2: He apologized for not staying to answer my question. I 1478 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,560 Speaker 2: tried to understand what had caused the trigger, because I 1479 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:41,280 Speaker 2: wasn't irritated and I hadn't been demanding or aggressive. I 1480 01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,440 Speaker 2: was simply trying to understand, and I had doubts. But 1481 01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:46,920 Speaker 2: he didn't want to go too deeply into it, and 1482 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,160 Speaker 2: I didn't push. I accepted all of the its complicated 1483 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,600 Speaker 2: responses as him not wanting to talk about it, and 1484 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:56,400 Speaker 2: I respected that. Little by little, our conversation became normal again, 1485 01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,720 Speaker 2: like our previous conversations. The truth is that I didn't 1486 01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:01,680 Speaker 2: want did to be the main topic. 1487 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:02,760 Speaker 9: I wanted us to go. 1488 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,720 Speaker 2: Back to our routine, and that's what happens. He's getting 1489 01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:07,920 Speaker 2: a few friends together at his place on Friday and 1490 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,400 Speaker 2: invited me. He told me to bring some friends as well, 1491 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,800 Speaker 2: so i'd feel safer. Maybe now that I know the secret, 1492 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:15,240 Speaker 2: he feels safe enough to. 1493 01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:16,920 Speaker 9: Be more open. I'm going. 1494 01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,200 Speaker 2: I've already asked a friend to come with me. As 1495 01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:21,760 Speaker 2: for whether I'll break up with him or not, I 1496 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,280 Speaker 2: still haven't decided. I don't think I have enough information 1497 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,000 Speaker 2: to make that decision. Yet there are enough good things 1498 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,200 Speaker 2: in our relationship to make me feel I need to 1499 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:30,520 Speaker 2: take my time to think through it. 1500 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,000 Speaker 9: Maybe I should give you a few examples and you 1501 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,120 Speaker 9: can better understand the position I'm in. We love examples 1502 01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:36,560 Speaker 9: over here. 1503 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,280 Speaker 4: I do love a good little example. 1504 01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:41,840 Speaker 2: I have a lot of responsibilities at work, and I 1505 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,320 Speaker 2: manage a large team. There are weeks when I barely 1506 01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,640 Speaker 2: have anything to do. The team is running like a 1507 01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,800 Speaker 2: perfectly tuned machine. And then there are a few weeks 1508 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,960 Speaker 2: when it feels like no one is working or there's 1509 01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,720 Speaker 2: simply too much demand for the team to handle, and 1510 01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,920 Speaker 2: I have an overwhelming amount to do. I barely sleep 1511 01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:01,120 Speaker 2: and barely eat. Give you an idea. I have someone 1512 01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,800 Speaker 2: who cooks for me. She brings me a plate of 1513 01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,200 Speaker 2: food while I'm working and has been instructed to come 1514 01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,160 Speaker 2: back from time to time to check whether I'm eating, 1515 01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,400 Speaker 2: to remind me to finish my meal because I get 1516 01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:11,600 Speaker 2: so focused on work. 1517 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:12,000 Speaker 9: That I forget. 1518 01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,880 Speaker 2: She takes the plate away when the food gets cold, 1519 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,680 Speaker 2: reheats it, and brings it back to me until I 1520 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:20,360 Speaker 2: finish eating. Wow, that sounds like a if you can 1521 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,960 Speaker 2: afford that, dude, that sounds like a great thing to have, Yeah, 1522 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:24,559 Speaker 2: in your life. 1523 01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,040 Speaker 4: A designated reheater. 1524 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna make sure I don't get too distracted 1525 01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:30,479 Speaker 2: to eat. 1526 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,040 Speaker 9: I need that for sure. 1527 01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,240 Speaker 2: And on the days she doesn't work during these very 1528 01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,400 Speaker 2: busy periods, I don't eat anything all day and only 1529 01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,040 Speaker 2: eat when I finish work around five to six pm, 1530 01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,080 Speaker 2: and that's the only meal I have. That said, it's 1531 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,960 Speaker 2: obvious that our video calls coincided with those periods, and 1532 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,839 Speaker 2: while he in every call was always very well presented, 1533 01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,240 Speaker 2: I don't know whether because he got ready for them 1534 01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,679 Speaker 2: or simply because his job involved a lot of meetings. 1535 01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:59,400 Speaker 2: Many times I wasn't imagine someone who has slept for 1536 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,960 Speaker 2: four hours for several days in a row, got out 1537 01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,919 Speaker 2: of bed straight to sit in front of the computer, 1538 01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,360 Speaker 2: worked all day and barely eaten. In many of those calls, 1539 01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,200 Speaker 2: I was disheveled, hadn't even had time to wash my face, 1540 01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 2: and had just stopped working to go and eat, looking 1541 01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:15,599 Speaker 2: and feeling like a zombie. 1542 01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,600 Speaker 3: I think my final thought on this would be like 1543 01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:23,280 Speaker 3: kind of exactly what I've already said that like, if 1544 01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:25,360 Speaker 3: this was just like someone like a cob or like 1545 01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:29,120 Speaker 3: a friend. This is a friendship. It's like, okay, I can, 1546 01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,320 Speaker 3: we can, I can do this. 1547 01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:36,280 Speaker 4: That's okay. But in like a relationship, it's just too 1548 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:37,080 Speaker 4: much for me. 1549 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:41,280 Speaker 9: Yeah, and person in person, I feel like that's okay. 1550 01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, not to say that, like anyone with this guy's 1551 01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:50,160 Speaker 3: condition at the level it's at like can't date totally, 1552 01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,960 Speaker 3: but like it would be it would require all of 1553 01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:57,120 Speaker 3: that would have to be required upfront, which is. 1554 01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,599 Speaker 4: Probably really hard to do. Yeah, but I can't. 1555 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,800 Speaker 3: You can't be talking me for like four months and 1556 01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:07,360 Speaker 3: have never told me that you have legitimate split personality, 1557 01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:11,160 Speaker 3: because that's yeah, that's like you're leaving too much off 1558 01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:11,719 Speaker 3: the table. 1559 01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,839 Speaker 9: Yeah, I get you. You know you want to upfront. 1560 01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,680 Speaker 4: I would have needed it up front. Yeah, if I 1561 01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:18,639 Speaker 4: was going to make a run. 1562 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,160 Speaker 9: At it, I get you. I get you. 1563 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:22,360 Speaker 2: There is a little bit more to the story, though. 1564 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,559 Speaker 2: The first time I apologized and explained that I had 1565 01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,960 Speaker 2: been very busy and simply didn't have the energy to 1566 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,639 Speaker 2: get ready for our call, he didn't mind and didn't 1567 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,400 Speaker 2: run away from my mad looking appearance, And that was 1568 01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,000 Speaker 2: right at the beginning. In short, I bring things to 1569 01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,240 Speaker 2: the table too, and I think we both need to 1570 01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,800 Speaker 2: decide whether we can handle each other's baggage. I told 1571 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,960 Speaker 2: him today that I will probably be prejudiced, disrespectful, and 1572 01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:47,839 Speaker 2: unintentionally touch on sensitive topics with my questions and fears, 1573 01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,160 Speaker 2: and I asked whether he's willing to deal with that. 1574 01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,439 Speaker 2: I don't think it's very pleasant to deal with someone 1575 01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,560 Speaker 2: who doesn't know what they're doing this. 1576 01:10:54,960 --> 01:11:01,000 Speaker 3: Honestly, though, part of me is a little suspicious that 1577 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:02,120 Speaker 3: that's not that. 1578 01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:09,120 Speaker 9: He's making it up or something. Whoa, whoa. 1579 01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:15,240 Speaker 3: I'm just a little sprinkle of suspicion there. I'm just 1580 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,559 Speaker 3: because it's like when you're like, when you're like trying 1581 01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 3: to get more into it, be like, yeah, so, what 1582 01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:20,080 Speaker 3: how is what has it? 1583 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:21,040 Speaker 4: What's what's exactly? 1584 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:22,400 Speaker 5: It's complicated? 1585 01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,320 Speaker 3: Well, that's a great way to not explain something you 1586 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:29,639 Speaker 3: can't explain, right, if you were to not be telling 1587 01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,920 Speaker 3: the truth, however, he could be. 1588 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,360 Speaker 9: I'm sure someone's faked it. 1589 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:34,479 Speaker 4: I'm sure. 1590 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:36,640 Speaker 9: I'm sure there have been people who have faked that. 1591 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,200 Speaker 9: Fake it a couple of years ago, did. 1592 01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,880 Speaker 3: She I'm sure, but you know it would be it 1593 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,120 Speaker 3: would be a really hard thing to fake convincingly to. 1594 01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,160 Speaker 9: Be clear who's doing it so like subtly. 1595 01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:50,559 Speaker 2: I don't think he would have gone through all that 1596 01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:54,000 Speaker 2: trouble of carrying a notebook and stuff and like really 1597 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,479 Speaker 2: really working on it to make it work. 1598 01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:57,559 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1599 01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,439 Speaker 3: This could have just been like, uh, you know, a 1600 01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,280 Speaker 3: quirky high school lie that's spun out of control for 1601 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,960 Speaker 3: this guy, A you know what I mean. 1602 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,360 Speaker 4: But it also might not. But I don't know. 1603 01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:10,760 Speaker 3: I think at the end of the day, that's the 1604 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:12,400 Speaker 3: thing that's making me be like, I don't think that 1605 01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,040 Speaker 3: this would work because it's like there's not one hundred 1606 01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:19,360 Speaker 3: percent like upfrontness and openness with like what it is 1607 01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,800 Speaker 3: and how it impacts him and like what affects him 1608 01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,080 Speaker 3: like more like I just yeah, there's too much in 1609 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:25,519 Speaker 3: the dark. 1610 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,960 Speaker 9: I guess you a lot going on in this one. 1611 01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:29,920 Speaker 9: This is the long update I have for now. 1612 01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,240 Speaker 2: I may come back on Saturday or Sunday if I 1613 01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,680 Speaker 2: have anything to add after Friday's get together. I don't 1614 01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,679 Speaker 2: think anything relevant will happen before that. In any case, 1615 01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,439 Speaker 2: I appreciate any new advice, especially from those who seem 1616 01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:43,400 Speaker 2: to have real experience with people with DID and on 1617 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,639 Speaker 2: whether or not to treat the personalities as separate people. 1618 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,280 Speaker 9: And that's the end of that story. Yeah, I mean 1619 01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:50,680 Speaker 9: I think that. 1620 01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:54,280 Speaker 2: Was a really good thing that she said to him, 1621 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,840 Speaker 2: where she was like, you know, I'm probably going to 1622 01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,519 Speaker 2: end up being prejudiced or insensitive on accident because I 1623 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,360 Speaker 2: like don't know about it or when I'm trying to 1624 01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,519 Speaker 2: ask questions about it, are you willing to deal with that? Like, 1625 01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:11,160 Speaker 2: you know, it's not on purpose, I'm just don't know. So, yes, 1626 01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:12,920 Speaker 2: that that is something that he's going to have to 1627 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:14,880 Speaker 2: choose too. He might know he wouldn't want to be 1628 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,680 Speaker 2: with someone that doesn't understand or is. 1629 01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:19,479 Speaker 4: Fearful of it, you know. 1630 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,559 Speaker 8: Yeah, and that's the end of this story.