WEBVTT - F-Boys Will Be Boys

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<v Speaker 1>I Suck At Dating with Dengler and Jared Haven Heart

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<v Speaker 1>Radio Podcast. All right, welcome back to help I Suck

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<v Speaker 1>at Dating. Like we said before, we have very special

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<v Speaker 1>guest who is on the line from F Boy Island,

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<v Speaker 1>which of course you can watch on HBO Max. Everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>watching it. It is Casey John Johnson, a self proclaimed

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<v Speaker 1>f boy. So Casey, thanks for joining us on the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast today. Man, yeah, thanks for having me. Jared, I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. It's it's an honor to be on here

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<v Speaker 1>talking to you guys. Well, that's so sweet, but the

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<v Speaker 1>honor is all ours. I say this next to my husband. Um, so,

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<v Speaker 1>this is how secure we are. You're definitely, in my

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<v Speaker 1>appoint of view, the best looking guy on not only

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<v Speaker 1>the best F boy Island, not not only the best

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<v Speaker 1>looking F boy guy, but the best looking guy in general.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice guys. These guys have no chance next to him.

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<v Speaker 1>And really, you you lead the way you know you

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<v Speaker 1>did until this crazy Well. I don't want to spoil

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<v Speaker 1>Earl or anyone, but there's there's a crazy ceremony you

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<v Speaker 1>know where you do get to part um through the

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<v Speaker 1>parks and I think everybody was quite shocked. Um it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a loss. But we found out then as

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<v Speaker 1>if it wasn't obvious already that you were a self

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<v Speaker 1>proclaimed F boy. Now, what what made you enough boy? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>my question is like I want to ask about the

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<v Speaker 1>casting process, like did you just have to be like

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<v Speaker 1>the honor system, like, yeah, I'm an F boy. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they started throwing the word around. They were like, hey, hey, kay,

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<v Speaker 1>so are you are you? Are you an F boy?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I was like, why do they

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<v Speaker 1>keep saying this? And I was like, I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get at something here, and I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well let's run with it. I mean, at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, I'm twenty four, I'm single, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm just doing anything any normal four year

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<v Speaker 1>old person would do. And so they definitely were like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this kid, the hair, that tattoo, he's he's definitely not

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<v Speaker 1>a nice guy. That's that's sure. You know what's funny

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<v Speaker 1>is that Dean's really supposed to be here today, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure Dean may have inspired the whole concept

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<v Speaker 1>with a lan and so along. Gael, the executive producer

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<v Speaker 1>of F Boy Island, was the executive producer and really um,

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<v Speaker 1>the mastermind behind Bachelor in Paradise and you your your

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<v Speaker 1>vibe very much reminds me of a young Dean. He's reformed,

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<v Speaker 1>he's now a reformed nice guy. Now Dean's just an

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<v Speaker 1>F boy on podcast. He'sn't show up when he's supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be. Oh that's that's awesome. No, I mean I've

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<v Speaker 1>been I've been following you a Dean for a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>so to be to be able to talk to you

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<v Speaker 1>and be compared to the Dan babies, that's not lit

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<v Speaker 1>deany babies. He's got to change that. I guess you

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<v Speaker 1>should never really change it. He'll always be Danny babies.

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<v Speaker 1>So now your self proclaimed reformed nice guy. So how

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<v Speaker 1>do you go from being an F boy to reform

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<v Speaker 1>nice guy? Yeah, it's a great question. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>any time. You know, my my one thing is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously respect honestly with all women. But you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>could go on one two dates and it might not

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<v Speaker 1>be for me, but you might meet that girl. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you might meet that girl who's like, Wow, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>worth pursuing a relationship with. And when I met CJ

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, I was like, you know what I

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<v Speaker 1>got a man up here, like, I gotta change my

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<v Speaker 1>ways a little bit because she's calling me a boy toy,

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<v Speaker 1>she's calling me a project, and apparently she's she's she's

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<v Speaker 1>seeing something in me that has potential. So that's when

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, maybe it's time to reform this

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<v Speaker 1>f boy lifestyle that I've been living. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>I want to give a huge shout out to CJ

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<v Speaker 1>for for making the decision in my mind to to

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<v Speaker 1>step up to the plate and be a be a

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<v Speaker 1>reformed nice guy for her. So when did the show tape?

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<v Speaker 1>We failed? We got there in February and it was February,

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<v Speaker 1>all of March and about half of April, two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half months. That's a long shout quarantine, super long,

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<v Speaker 1>super long. By the end of it, I think everyone

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<v Speaker 1>was exhausted and was just like, hey, let's let's get

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<v Speaker 1>out for contact. Paradise is a month long. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>for the very longest. It's like four to twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>days for the people who get engaged and start there. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason I ask you this is because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>how was the hot girl summer for the reformed nice guy?

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<v Speaker 1>I sure fantastic. Let's just say it's been a it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a really good, really good month for for the reforms.

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<v Speaker 1>What they called it. They called this something like the

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<v Speaker 1>summer of oh hot back summer or something like that. Yeah. Yeah, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's doing it this summer. It's good times. So so

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<v Speaker 1>are you single now? Yeah? Absolutely, absolutely, I'm single. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like absolutely, my show is airing right now. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm single and single and single? How many

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<v Speaker 1>times I'm saying no, yeah, you know now they I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just focused on myself. I'm really interested in

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<v Speaker 1>what's gonna come next of me, and the potential for

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<v Speaker 1>something else is definitely there. Maybe uh you know, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>they just announced season two, so I definitely would be

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<v Speaker 1>interested in speaking with a lone about that. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I was going to ask, because they HBO Max

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<v Speaker 1>just announced that they're doing season two of F Boy Island,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm curious are they going to have a whole

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<v Speaker 1>new cast. What I think would be really cool is

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<v Speaker 1>if they do bring in a new cast of f

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<v Speaker 1>boys and nice guys and women obviously, but then you

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<v Speaker 1>have former contestants like yourself, Casey, like an F boy

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<v Speaker 1>who turned into a nice guy come back on FOY

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<v Speaker 1>season two. I think you're onto something. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>would be okay, okay, okay, but how are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to prove that you're now a nice guy? That is

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<v Speaker 1>the That's a great question. I might need your help

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<v Speaker 1>with that. Actually, how how am I going to prove?

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<v Speaker 1>How does one prove that they're a nice guy? Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>probably like getting a girlfriend and being loyal to her.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't be you can't have a girlfriend going on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, so I don't know. Then then you're immediately

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<v Speaker 1>an F boy immediately immediately, No, I think that right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I just need to, especially you know, basically on social

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<v Speaker 1>media to just portray I mean, I really am a

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<v Speaker 1>nice guy. Like, were you guys shocked or did you

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<v Speaker 1>already know I was a boy? Quite evidence that you were.

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<v Speaker 1>If it doesn't mean that F boys aren't nice, It

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<v Speaker 1>just means that they are not good to date for

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<v Speaker 1>your soul. Dude, Deanie Babies is like the nicest guy ever. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but he may have been, you know, an f point

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<v Speaker 1>in his time. Okay, I'll take that. Well, I'm working

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<v Speaker 1>on it every day. I'm just becoming a nicer guy

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<v Speaker 1>every day, and by the time we shoot season two,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully I'll be the nice Yeah. But you know, be

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<v Speaker 1>cool is if you went back on season two and

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<v Speaker 1>nobody knew if you were still an F boy or

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<v Speaker 1>a nice guy. You're just putting out some great That

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<v Speaker 1>would be cool if you had former as reformed because

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<v Speaker 1>like he went through the camp. Yeah, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden hot vack summer happens and it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what's case you've been do it? Okay? This was Jared

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<v Speaker 1>and my big question going into this, um how was

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody and F boy for real? Like do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that the nice guys are really that nice? Or

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<v Speaker 1>like were they just calling themselves that? Don't even give me,

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<v Speaker 1>don't even get you firmly believe this. I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>so many of the nice guys were definitely way more

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<v Speaker 1>F boy. I think there's one person that comes straight

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<v Speaker 1>to my mind, probably the person that won c J. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was a nicer, a way nicer guy

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<v Speaker 1>than he was. Okay, still binging. So in order to

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<v Speaker 1>find this out, you'll have to you'll have to watch

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<v Speaker 1>to the very end. Well, I did want to ask

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<v Speaker 1>about because you became really close friends with Garrett on

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<v Speaker 1>your season. Uh, and so are you guys, You guys

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<v Speaker 1>still romantic? You guys lived together, right? Uh? Not yet,

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<v Speaker 1>not yet. So I'm just kind of some logistical stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I've been a l a couple of times

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<v Speaker 1>to stay with him, and in this past weekend he

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<v Speaker 1>came to Cleveland, we went to the Jake Paul Fights together.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, we're That's a nice segment to my next question,

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<v Speaker 1>which is have you met Sarah and is she nice? Oh? Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I met Sarah, well, Sar, she met Sarah on the show. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, no, no, no no, no, this is Jake Paul's

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<v Speaker 1>another Sarah. No, there's a different Sarah, Jake Paul's ex girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah May. I think her name is Mia. Her name

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<v Speaker 1>is Mia. Oh, I understand how we're reading. We're reading

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<v Speaker 1>the headline like, okay, yes, yes, yes, it's says Sarah who.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me start over the headline because I'm all over

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<v Speaker 1>the place. So Garrett apparently is dating Jake Paul's ex girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>The headline is saying Sarah who as in Sarah from

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<v Speaker 1>the show. But Jake Paul's ex girlfriend is Mia. Got it?

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<v Speaker 1>I read that headline wrong. So my question is, but

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<v Speaker 1>why is she at his his fight? Yeah, this is weird. So,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, I'm in hotwater right now. Yes, I have

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<v Speaker 1>met me. She is she is very she's very nice.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that headline was very out of context.

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<v Speaker 1>They're they're they're not like dating dating. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that was taken. I'm not saying that either, Garrett. I'm sorry, No,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not dating me as a really sweet girl. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Garrett is trying to focus on himself right now

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<v Speaker 1>and he's you know, a lot of people are upset

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<v Speaker 1>with Garrett. So he's he's in uh, he's in, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make his public image a little bit better

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<v Speaker 1>right now. And I think that's where he's at. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So Garrett was at the Jake Paul fight. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't know. It was me and him. She was not there.

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<v Speaker 1>She was not there. It was just it was just

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett and I. You know, he's a I'm a lover,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a fighter. Like he's trying to call out Jake Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants to fight Jake Paul. I'm like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Jake's a pretty good boxer. I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't get the whole fight. Every wants to fight these days.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm not. I don't want to fight anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm too nice for that. You've got too good of

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<v Speaker 1>a face. That seems like to say, speaking of Dean,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's joining us from what it looks like a spa.

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<v Speaker 1>He's definitely has one of those rooms in Greece with

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<v Speaker 1>the pool in there. Honeymoon. Before my internet drops again,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make one thing clear. I'm doing my

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<v Speaker 1>best to be here. I've moved nineteen times to find

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<v Speaker 1>the most strong WiFi connection. I'm doing my best. But Casey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an honor to have you on this podcast. My

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend and I watched every episode of f Boy Island,

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<v Speaker 1>and I gotta say I don't think I was in

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<v Speaker 1>the minority when I was rooting for CJ to pick you.

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<v Speaker 1>At the very very end, I've got a laundry list

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<v Speaker 1>of questions for you. I'm gonna let Jared and actually

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<v Speaker 1>continue to interview you because I'm terrified of my connection

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<v Speaker 1>dropping mid question. So I'm just like coming in for

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<v Speaker 1>a second, and I hope it last long enough for

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<v Speaker 1>me to like maybe like ask a question or two

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<v Speaker 1>along the way. Well, I got a question perfectly. Okay, Casey,

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<v Speaker 1>You've mentioned multiple times in this interview that you're like

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<v Speaker 1>focusing on yourself and that Garrett's focusing on himself. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that really just code word for like, we're still going

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<v Speaker 1>to mess around a little bit longer. I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, you have every writing. Yeah. No, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, I really do you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I had my I was in college, I went to college,

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<v Speaker 1>I had fun, I messed around, But at this point

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<v Speaker 1>in my life, I really do want to focus on

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<v Speaker 1>what's next for my career. Uh. And so I think

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<v Speaker 1>right now, if I if I were, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>only girl that I would consider, you know, pursuing, would

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<v Speaker 1>be CJ. At this point, you know, other than that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really focused on myself. But if CJ were to

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps stumble back into my life, which could be a possibility,

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<v Speaker 1>then I would definitely pursue. They're talking, so, okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So here's my chance to interject. Then, So this is

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<v Speaker 1>actually one of the quite Kalin it out like five

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<v Speaker 1>questions that she wanted me to ask you again. She's sleeping.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like eleven PM here in Grease. It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>She wants to know, are you aware of like c

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<v Speaker 1>J and Jared's current relationship status. Yeah, I am, I

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<v Speaker 1>very much A yeah, and that is it's it's I

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<v Speaker 1>think there. I think they're okay. Yeah, so if they

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<v Speaker 1>were to like go on an ice cream date, they

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<v Speaker 1>would pick Rocky Road as their flavor. That was good.

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<v Speaker 1>I like, that's when I tried, that's what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>He definitely hate me for saying that because that was

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<v Speaker 1>the stupidest thing I've ever said. But everybody's getting the

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<v Speaker 1>point here. Everybody's getting the point. Everybody's getting the point. Well, Casey,

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<v Speaker 1>we really appreciate you joining us. We hope nothing but

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<v Speaker 1>the best for you in the future, for you and

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<v Speaker 1>c J. Maybe we'll see. We'll see what the future

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<v Speaker 1>has and who knows, maybe f Boy Island season two.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it would be awesome to have you back on.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll text Alon and be like, you gotta get

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<v Speaker 1>Casey back on this show because he's the best. You

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't see Casey's face when he was talking about Rocky

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<v Speaker 1>Road ice cream and c J and all that, but

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<v Speaker 1>like it was very smiley and telling what's ally, Oh hey,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for having us. Actually Jared's so good to meet

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, and Uh, I think again. Thanks, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a pleasure of dere Thanks Bunny, Yeah you too, really

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<v Speaker 1>nice meeting man. Hey, welcome back to help I suck

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<v Speaker 1>a dating. Of course, Jared here, Ashley here, Dean he

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<v Speaker 1>might be here. We don't really know. We shouldnt even

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<v Speaker 1>allow him in anymore. No, that's not no, that's not fair.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a great guest on from f Boy Island,

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<v Speaker 1>and we just had Casey Johnson on. Now we have

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<v Speaker 1>a nice guy. We have Fernando Titus. Fernando, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for joining us. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>having me Jared and Nashally I appreciate it. And Dean,

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<v Speaker 1>who wasn't here with us today. No, we appreciate so

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<v Speaker 1>so for no, No, I want to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>casting process for f Buy Island. Did like, was it

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<v Speaker 1>weird to be like, no, I'm a nice guy or

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<v Speaker 1>did they put the label on you? Did you approach

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<v Speaker 1>them throughout casting? Was like, oh, I'm not an f boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm more of a nice guy. So the casting process

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty interesting the whole time up until we actually

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<v Speaker 1>got to set and UH delivered our electronics and we

0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't know what we were being casting for. He didn't

0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:30.240
<v Speaker 1>know what show you were being casting for. Not oh

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<v Speaker 1>like it was it was like the weirdest thing. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I remember getting to the airport and just seeing a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of good looking dudes, and like they were like, yes,

0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:40.000
<v Speaker 1>this like Fire Festival Part two, Like what's on here?

0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Like what was going on? Even the first contract that

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<v Speaker 1>we got, which was which was a hoax, it said

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<v Speaker 1>Lord of the Bros. So we were like, what is

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<v Speaker 1>going on here? But during casting, it was the typical

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<v Speaker 1>questions that they probably asked you for going on a

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<v Speaker 1>bachelor bachroom Paradise. Who you are, what do you do,

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<v Speaker 1>what makes you an eligible bachelor? What makes you different

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<v Speaker 1>than the rest? How do you treat women in real life?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you look for in a relationship? Things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess my answers just led me to be

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<v Speaker 1>being labeled as a nice guy. So we didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>that there was gonna be a nice guy and f

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<v Speaker 1>boy like battle. And when we got there and after

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<v Speaker 1>we went through everything, at the end of the initial interview,

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<v Speaker 1>they just said, hey, so your name is saying I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a nice guy, and that's not figured out. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I'm a nice guy, Breneta. I have a question

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<v Speaker 1>for you. So for the I love that you're a

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<v Speaker 1>nice guy. For the F Boys, what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>they said that like per the producers to consider them

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<v Speaker 1>as F boys, Because I remember, like I know, like

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<v Speaker 1>when they get called that for F Boys, there was

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<v Speaker 1>like a little bit of a montage as like to

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<v Speaker 1>they're like casting tape or whatever. But like, why did

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<v Speaker 1>those guys say those things? Like, I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like an F boy is the king of like a

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<v Speaker 1>king of lying, So it's like, why would they be

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<v Speaker 1>so honest about those things in the casting material? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think honestly seeing those casting tastes was hilarious? I

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<v Speaker 1>had no idea that those guys are going that book

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<v Speaker 1>wow in their interview process, And to be honest, I

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<v Speaker 1>just think that they just went for it. They wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to just be themselves and just show like, Hey, this

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<v Speaker 1>is me. I don't know what type of show this is,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like this fits the mantra for all

0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.280
<v Speaker 1>the shows that are out right now. So maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>why that they went with that guy. I like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that makes a lot of sense. What if you

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<v Speaker 1>showed up and you like didn't want to be part

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<v Speaker 1>of a dating show? Or did you have a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good idea that it was a dating show? Oh? I

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<v Speaker 1>knew it was a dating show. The thing that confused

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<v Speaker 1>me the most was getting to the airport and seeing

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<v Speaker 1>maybe like the thirty dudes, and I was like, the

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<v Speaker 1>other plane, maybe there were thirty girls there, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know, Like, yeah, I didn't know anything, you know,

0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know if it was gonna be one girl,

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<v Speaker 1>three girls, went to one ratio anything like that. I

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<v Speaker 1>just knew that there would be women, And when I

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<v Speaker 1>got to the airport, I knew there were dudes. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you guess any show that it might have been. Were

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<v Speaker 1>you thinking that you might have been on one show? Uh? Not?

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<v Speaker 1>In particular only because I had already gone through the

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<v Speaker 1>casting process for Love Island and Too Hot to Handle,

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<v Speaker 1>so I knew it wasn't those already, and it was

0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.040
<v Speaker 1>a brand new show on HBO, and I was like, Okay,

0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:11.720
<v Speaker 1>it's not The Winner, so it's not twelve days to Christmas,

0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.879
<v Speaker 1>and of course The Bachelor's not on on HBO, so

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<v Speaker 1>I knew it wasn't bad. Prettive, I gotta speak up

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<v Speaker 1>real quick because my girlfriend and I watched the show

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<v Speaker 1>in like we like religiously in a weird way, you know,

0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:25.200
<v Speaker 1>like they released them in in in segments or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>In our opinion, both my your my girlfriend's opinion, you

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<v Speaker 1>were the most eligible bachelor out of all of them,

0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.800
<v Speaker 1>and it almost it almost wasn't even a competition, like

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<v Speaker 1>you were like the guy, right, So, like, how has

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, how is your life like been affected by

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<v Speaker 1>the show coming off of it now that it's fully aired.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that the show is fully aired, the main thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I noticed is that nobody's asking me about how

0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel about things, And that was such a huge

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<v Speaker 1>change for me. And I'm so I'm easy. I'm easily

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<v Speaker 1>able to now express myself in jo Like I always

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<v Speaker 1>thought I was a catch and I was always a

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<v Speaker 1>good dude, But now I can just open up easier.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, tons of questions to ask to start to

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<v Speaker 1>like get to know somebody a lot better. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>really just made my interpersonal relationships are a lot better

0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.479
<v Speaker 1>and it's definitely easier to just talk to anybody in general.

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<v Speaker 1>The magic of working with a long gale, it'll do

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<v Speaker 1>a lot for you. And when it comes to that

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<v Speaker 1>emotional maturity. Uh. So, are you still an eligible bachelor? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Currently I am. I'm well, I'm back in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>I am working, and I'm just loving with what's like

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<v Speaker 1>giving me right now? Would you be open to going

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<v Speaker 1>back on f F Boy Island because they said that

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing a season two. Oh? Absolutely, I would definitely

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<v Speaker 1>go back and show the right person. You know that

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<v Speaker 1>they deserve the best in your life, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give it. I gotta say something because I heard before

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<v Speaker 1>my wife I dropped when you're talking to Casey before this,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys talking about f By Island season two, and

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<v Speaker 1>I could have missed something, and so if I if

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<v Speaker 1>I repeat something, I apologize. I think what they should

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<v Speaker 1>do for season two is bring back nice guys like

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<v Speaker 1>for An and oh maybe a couple of others, and

0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.000
<v Speaker 1>then those are the guys, and then it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like an F Girl Island in a sense, you know

0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:08.600
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, because there's definitely no shortage of f girls.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we bring back the non nice guy. We

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<v Speaker 1>bring back the no nice guys that maybe like we're

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<v Speaker 1>just shy of like finding what they wanted to find

0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.520
<v Speaker 1>and bring you know, thirty girls in and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>see how it I hold from there. If I was

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<v Speaker 1>a line which I obviously I can't even hold the

0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.400
<v Speaker 1>candle to the guy. That's kind of where my mind

0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:28.359
<v Speaker 1>would be at this point. I think, I think, and

0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I think Fernando would be a prime candidate for that

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<v Speaker 1>role in my opinion. Thank you, I I totally agree to.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that in my position, I was just

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<v Speaker 1>a little shy, and I was battling O g Jared,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was making her so upsettled the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was, you know, always there to pick up pieces,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just felt like the connection that they had,

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<v Speaker 1>like the kind of disruptive the connection I had. So

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<v Speaker 1>now if I had a chance to do that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be able to actually just see everything and give

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<v Speaker 1>everybody a fair shot. Yeah, that's actually a really good idea, Dean,

0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:04.840
<v Speaker 1>because what Ashley and I were thinking was in what

0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:06.600
<v Speaker 1>they could do is bring on a new cast of

0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:11.600
<v Speaker 1>guys and girls, but then bring back former cast members

0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:14.920
<v Speaker 1>from season one, Like it could be Fernando, it could

0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.960
<v Speaker 1>be Casey, but it's still not known if they're like

0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:20.960
<v Speaker 1>they come back and it could be like Casey could

0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:23.280
<v Speaker 1>still be an F boy, or he could turn him

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<v Speaker 1>to a nice guy nobody knows, or like Fernando, obviously

0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:28.280
<v Speaker 1>you'd be a nice guy. But hypopothetically speaking, like what

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<v Speaker 1>if you go on season two and since the time

0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:32.480
<v Speaker 1>has passed, you turned into an f Yeah, because he

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<v Speaker 1>got like his ego stroked. All I can think about

0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:38.399
<v Speaker 1>is Blake from Bachelor in Paradise, Like that would be it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Like if Blake was on

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<v Speaker 1>season one F boy and he was a nice guy,

0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Blake Hurtsman, and then he went back like he did

0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:46.760
<v Speaker 1>on Paradise, he would have been an F boy and

0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:48.960
<v Speaker 1>nobody would have known it, you know, nobody would have

0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:51.960
<v Speaker 1>saw it coming. I gotta say. I gotta say, though,

0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:55.399
<v Speaker 1>I think Fernando is in a unique position because Blake.

0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I would probably loot myself into the same scenario as Blake,

0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Like we're just like bland white dudes who like just

0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:04.960
<v Speaker 1>somehow fell into this like realm of popularity. Fernando has

0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:06.520
<v Speaker 1>been in the in the world for a long time.

0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:09.720
<v Speaker 1>He's a freaking olympian, He's a doctor with multiple practices.

0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Like this guy is no stranger to like having women

0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:14.720
<v Speaker 1>just throw themselves at him. So that's kind of why

0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I think it would be a little bit different for Fernando. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't want to put any words in your mouth,

0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:20.840
<v Speaker 1>of course, but like that's just kind of how I

0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:22.960
<v Speaker 1>pursue that Fernando is definitely more of a catch than

0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:30.879
<v Speaker 1>you and play I totally stop, I'm not doing Fernando. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>how did it feel being the only guy who like

0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:35.439
<v Speaker 1>had a real job in the house, because that's what

0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I noticed. Yeah, I noticed that too very quickly, especially

0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:42.359
<v Speaker 1>with the type of combos and things being said on camera.

0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:44.439
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you, guys, you have a life after this.

0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:46.240
<v Speaker 1>But I was like, oh, you don't, so like you're

0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:49.240
<v Speaker 1>just you're just doing you know, like I have to

0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:51.280
<v Speaker 1>go back to a job, I have a license, you know,

0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Like I gotta be careful but also uphold myself to

0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:56.919
<v Speaker 1>who I truly am, and so just being there, I

0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:59.080
<v Speaker 1>always had to be mindful of the things that I

0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:01.159
<v Speaker 1>said and the things I did, and of course I

0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:05.080
<v Speaker 1>wanted to make my mom proud as well. He is

0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:07.200
<v Speaker 1>a real nice guy. Yeah, you're a real nice guy.

0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 1>You really are. And I will say all the people

0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:11.480
<v Speaker 1>that we saw on the show, you definitely handled yourself

0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:13.920
<v Speaker 1>above and beyond anyone else that we saw. So that's

0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:15.800
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what I'm kind of rooting for the f

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<v Speaker 1>boy season two to be more of like an girl Island,

0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess could say, and make the guys more of

0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:24.600
<v Speaker 1>like the Bachelor, you know, and Fernando could be one

0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:27.480
<v Speaker 1>of the Bachelor's for sure. That's exactly where Alon said

0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:30.320
<v Speaker 1>is at and I it's so I'm sure Ashley and

0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Jared you guys have and Fernando you guys. I'll watch

0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:34.280
<v Speaker 1>the show, uh and I just kind of want to

0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:38.280
<v Speaker 1>relive the final episode where um, you know, she's choosing

0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:40.960
<v Speaker 1>O G Jared and O G. Jared like steps back

0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:43.879
<v Speaker 1>to make his speech before he like says whether he's

0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:46.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna split the money or not. Dude, me and Kaylyn

0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:49.520
<v Speaker 1>were like staring at each other like on that was

0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:52.360
<v Speaker 1>like the apex of the show, like pins and needles.

0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Like I thought for sure he was gonna be like,

0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking the money just like Garrett did, but he

0:22:57.520 --> 0:23:00.840
<v Speaker 1>he didn't. And I mean I kept up to day

0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:04.400
<v Speaker 1>on their relationship status, but I mean I still can't believe.

0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 1>The ending was absolutely insane, and Fernando to be part

0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:09.439
<v Speaker 1>of that was I mean it must have been like

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:13.040
<v Speaker 1>life changing in a lot of ways, right, it was.

0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:15.600
<v Speaker 1>There were a lot of real emotions going through there.

0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:18.639
<v Speaker 1>I was on my toes the entire time. And I

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:22.600
<v Speaker 1>actually didn't see what he said to Nikia after I

0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:25.879
<v Speaker 1>was eliminated in the final elimination. So the way he

0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:28.720
<v Speaker 1>started that speech, it was right on par with what

0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:31.320
<v Speaker 1>he was telling us back at the cottages. Like he

0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:32.760
<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm going to take the money, like he

0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:35.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. And when he stopped, I was watching it

0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:37.639
<v Speaker 1>on TV. I was just like, I was like, oh

0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:41.480
<v Speaker 1>my god, he's gonna take to and then he actually didn't.

0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 1>So it was such a it was a relieving surprise. Okay,

0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:46.080
<v Speaker 1>but tell us, so let's say you were We all

0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:47.359
<v Speaker 1>know you're a nice guy, said it would have been

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:50.919
<v Speaker 1>split anyways. If you were in his position, would you

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.200
<v Speaker 1>have taken it or would you have split any think? Uh?

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:58.320
<v Speaker 1>If I was in his position, ah, man, he I

0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:01.040
<v Speaker 1>probably would have split it. You know. I saw how

0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:04.639
<v Speaker 1>much she liked him and he just had her, you know,

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:06.400
<v Speaker 1>And so that only would have been the right thing

0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 1>to do, regardless of if they work or not. At

0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 1>least you know, you put her through so much harder

0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:12.760
<v Speaker 1>at least make it a little bit easier after the show.

0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I respect that absolutely. Fernando, thank you so much for

0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:20.560
<v Speaker 1>joining us today. We really appreciate it. Uh. And then hopefully,

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 1>like Dean said, hopefully you are You know, it's f

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Girl Island. That will be season two F Boy Island,

0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 1>and you're one of the one of the guys. Yes, man,

0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:30.600
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for having me. Everybody, I really

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:33.000
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you taking the time out to do this one. No,

0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:48.880
<v Speaker 1>we appreciate you coming on. Fernando Titus, thank you so much. Hey,

0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:52.240
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna help I suck at dating Jared here, Dean

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 1>is here as well. Dean's in Greece, so his WIFEI

0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:56.639
<v Speaker 1>is kind of going in and out. So I have

0:24:56.760 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 1>my wonderful, beautiful, somewhat sick wife sitting next to me

0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:02.560
<v Speaker 1>because we have some very special guests from F Boy

0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:05.199
<v Speaker 1>Island to show that both Dean and Ashley love and

0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I love as well. But uh, I gotta be honest,

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I haven't finished watching yet, so I gotta get on that.

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:12.960
<v Speaker 1>But it's a great show anyway. Ashley, how are you hi?

0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm good. Hey, Dean, what part of Greece are you in. Um,

0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually in your guys favorite section of Greece, Santorini,

0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 1>which I remember you guys came here for your honeymoon,

0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 1>if I'm not mistaken. Yes, And we chose Santorini because,

0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:30.880
<v Speaker 1>like they say, it's like the spa relaxation not party

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:34.960
<v Speaker 1>section of Greece. It's the best. Yeah. Yeah, So we

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:38.359
<v Speaker 1>got in maybe like six hours ago. I walked around,

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:40.360
<v Speaker 1>as I'm sure you guys explored all the areas. It's

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:44.680
<v Speaker 1>it's really just one of the most picturesque cities or towns.

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:46.119
<v Speaker 1>I guess, I don't know whatever it is in the

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:50.960
<v Speaker 1>in the world, right, like cliff side, beautiful buildings, incredible sceneries. Um.

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so that's all my wife I suck. So

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 1>I apologize if I'm in and out for you. When

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:58.679
<v Speaker 1>we were in Santorini, we're obviously posting and Rob Thomas

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:01.480
<v Speaker 1>texted me and he said, we love Santorini. I hope

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:03.159
<v Speaker 1>you guys are doing well and the honeymoon's going well.

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:06.119
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, actually, I'm so happy we chose Santorini.

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:08.879
<v Speaker 1>You're such a lack of or did you go to

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 1>EA yet? Are you India are you staying there? We

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 1>are saying in EA. Um, tomorrow we go. So we

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 1>got delayed a day because if IDAs um, I guess

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:24.439
<v Speaker 1>appreciation to the north, like New Jersey, New York area.

0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 1>So so if I got pushed the whole day, So

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 1>we lost today. But we go Greece. We go Greece

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 1>to Italy, which I know you guys spend time in

0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Positano as well. We're going. We're going like Como to

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 1>the Dolomites and mental Tuscany. Okay, so are you guys

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:41.920
<v Speaker 1>on your honeymoon? Now? It's just just yeah, this is

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:45.440
<v Speaker 1>definitely honeymoon, right, you guys are married. Yeah, I actually

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 1>actually thank you for asking the question. Yes, it actually

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:52.680
<v Speaker 1>is our honeymoon. UM see, I believe him. So we're

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:54.199
<v Speaker 1>doing our best. We're trying to make it as a

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:58.120
<v Speaker 1>romance filled as we possibly can. Um. It's just it's

0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:00.639
<v Speaker 1>just weeks filled with looking each other in the eyes,

0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:04.200
<v Speaker 1>telling each other how much we love one another, and

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:09.240
<v Speaker 1>just enjoying being in the most beautiful place on earth. Honestly,

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 1>do you ever get bored on vacations? Um? Yeah, that's

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 1>a really good question actually in these areas, Yes, definitely.

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:20.320
<v Speaker 1>I do I. Um, obviously, I love photography, so like

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:24.399
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of like really good photography locations here. Um,

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:28.439
<v Speaker 1>but I definitely like Okay, So, like Kalen is walking

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 1>to dinner and she wants to like stop in like

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:36.200
<v Speaker 1>nine different little boutiques along the way. Yeah, it's everyone right,

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Like I understand it and I appreciate it. And there

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:40.879
<v Speaker 1>are times when she like slows down but keeps walking

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 1>and I we like walk past it. I'm like, you know,

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:44.439
<v Speaker 1>you can go in that store if you want, and

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:46.560
<v Speaker 1>she's like, oh my gosh, okay, good thank goodness, because

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:48.440
<v Speaker 1>like I saw something I really wanted. So it's like

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not bored, but I definitely you know, um, I don't.

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'm stoked. But at the same time,

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 1>well like sometimes on our honeymoon, yeah, I mean it's

0:27:58.080 --> 0:27:59.919
<v Speaker 1>gorgeous and it's beautiful and I love being there, but

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:01.960
<v Speaker 1>there are times like I remember we watched a couple

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 1>of movies and I was like, should we be watching

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:06.360
<v Speaker 1>movies while we're in Greece. We watched The Town right,

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, should we be doing this or

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:11.680
<v Speaker 1>should we just be like staring at nature? Get at night?

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Bab we never did that during the day. No, I know,

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>it's still you make a good point, like you could

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:18.159
<v Speaker 1>watch the town anywhere in the world and here you

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 1>are in like the most romantic city in the world

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:22.200
<v Speaker 1>and you're watching the town and you know what tell room.

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:25.360
<v Speaker 1>But I I disagree. I think that like wherever you are,

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:28.360
<v Speaker 1>whatever you're doing, um like just do what feels right.

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 1>So like if you felt like watching the town when

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 1>you're in Positano, like just freaking do it. Who care?

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:35.919
<v Speaker 1>Plus we are we were so off time wise that

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 1>we were like falling asleep at three am. So yeah,

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 1>at one am we could watch a full movie. Now,

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 1>if I try to watch a movie at eight pm,

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I fall asleep by eight thirty. It's so bad. I

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 1>fully agree with that. That makes that makes sense obviously.

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Uh well, we did have some hot topics, but I

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know if we're going to really discuss in depth.

0:28:56.960 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Because it's about celebrities who lost their uginity, why aren't

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>we well because I thought when I'm reading about the topic,

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>us like, oh, Dean and I can talk about this

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 1>and kind of like talk about our own experiences. But

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we want to talk about these

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>things together. Yeah, that's what I thought. So we'll just

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 1>talk about there these celebrities. I think we can talk

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 1>to Dean about it. Yeah, I mean mine, that's fine. Well,

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 1>it's all about when stars lost their virginity, and Megan

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Fox and Kim Kardashian, George Cluney, a lot of other

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 1>celebrities got very personal in this interview, which was printed

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>on US Weekly. Well they didn't. They didn't get it

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 1>wasn't this, It wasn't a collection of that. Uh. And

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 1>so you know, obviously some celebrities, you know, some people

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>they just feel like they want to keep their sexual

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 1>experiences close to their chests. And obviously others have no

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 1>problem kissing and telling. So, for example, Dak Shepherd, who's

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>of course the host of the Armchair Expert podcast, he

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 1>revealed back in two thousand nineteen in an episode where

0:29:57.120 --> 0:30:00.160
<v Speaker 1>he had Gwyneth Paltrow on the podcast, that he was

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 1>actually in seventh grade when he had sex. So he

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 1>was twelve, Yes, he was either twelve or thirteen, and

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>he says, I lost my virginity intentionally to love my

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 1>way by the psychedelic furs in the basement of my house. Luckily,

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 1>we got right into the action and I did not

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>make it to the course, and then I was just

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 1>very confusing. I'm just very distinct. That's like, that's like

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 1>thinking about a child seventh grade, I know, especially having

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 1>a kid. Now, it's like, when do we have to

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 1>have this conversation? God, well, if they fall on our footsteps,

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>very fine, Yeah, at least seven. Speaking of Actually, you

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 1>seem to be feeling a lot better just from this

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 1>conversation we've had so far. Yeah, yeah, this week has

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>been a turning point. It's been good, Thank god. Yeah,

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's awesome. I've only heard, well mostly heard

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>through Jared about how difficult it's been for you. But yeah,

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean it seems like things are going better. Yeah,

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm definite really better. She's definitely better. She threw

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 1>up this morning, but like even just there's no more.

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Well I don't want to say no more, I don't

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 1>want it, but twenty four hour nausea doesn't seem to

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 1>be happening anymore, which is great. Yeah. The throw ups

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 1>are kind of sudden, like it'll be like thirty second

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 1>warning and then it comes out and then I'm kind

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 1>of like okay, okay, that was fun. The nice thing

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>is the next time, well, I mean not the next time,

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 1>but we can plan on throwing up again in seventeen years,

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 1>when you're a little boy is potentially losing his virginity,

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be throwing up because of a different reason,

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, like a little upset maybe like a little

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 1>like emotionally. I don't want to think about that. Could

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 1>you imagine walking in Jared is going to deal with

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:45.720
<v Speaker 1>all of that, all those conversations, Oh, well, yeah, especially

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 1>especially Yeah, I can relate more and be like, hey,

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 1>this is what that does, and like, I know, it's

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of weird and you know, but you'll learn. Yeah,

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean, I I envy you guys in

0:31:58.480 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of ways, but not at the same time.

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 1>I feel like those conversations have to kind of come

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>easier for having a boy. Like so I told Jared

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:07.719
<v Speaker 1>last week, my brother is expecting a baby girl basically

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>the same day you guys are expecting your boy, and

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 1>he is going to have a lot I feel like

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 1>having a conversation with the girl about that kind of

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 1>stuff is a little more challenging, especially from our perspective. Jared, Oh,

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like a girl. Just is it's more I

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know, protect elgi. Yeah, delicate. I didn't want to

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 1>say delicate because I didn't want to make it sound bad,

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 1>but just like, yeah, there's it. Probably is a stereotype.

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 1>But just like with a guy, it's like, hey, listen,

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:38.239
<v Speaker 1>be good, be truthful, be honest, but like you know,

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>you just like wrap it up. I don't know, I

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>feel like a girl. It's way more complex. Okay, well,

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>just a little deviation from this. You there was that

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 1>time that your dad had to tell you what was

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 1>going on when you so stupid? Is this Jared's wet

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 1>dream story? It's not a wet dream story? No, No,

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 1>it's well I think I might have talked about this

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 1>on the podcast before. I don't think you have. I

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 1>think you need to tell us all about what it is.

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I was probably in seventh grade and like my like,

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, I came home from school and I had

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>my own room, and you know, as boys do, and

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 1>when they were in their own room, and just like

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:25.480
<v Speaker 1>their urge came over me. So I was like it

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 1>was like four o'clock in the afternoon and just you know,

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 1>it was maybe, uh this, I feel like you one

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>time I know you woke up and your dad you

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>had to like change your sheet with your dad. Know what,

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 1>where did I get this wrong? I don't know. I

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 1>don't remember that. I remember I thought I the bed,

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>but he didn't. I'm sure Dean can relate to that.

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I the first time I ever had a wet dream.

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 1>I woke up and I was like, oh my god,

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm peeing the bed. And then I was like, wait

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 1>a minute, that's not pe and then I was worried

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>because I didn't know what it was. And then well,

0:33:57.680 --> 0:33:59.000
<v Speaker 1>that's what I thought we were talking about, was your

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 1>first wet dream, because I definitely vividly still remember my

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 1>first web dream. I'm sorry. I never meant for you

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>to tell that story about your dad. I didn't even

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:14.080
<v Speaker 1>know that sheets your dad walked in on you. Hey,

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:15.759
<v Speaker 1>my dad walked in on me as well one time,

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:19.320
<v Speaker 1>um doing something pretty bad as well. And the funny

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:21.279
<v Speaker 1>thing about dad's is they just don't really talk to

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 1>you about it, Like my dad never confronted me about it. Uh.

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:26.799
<v Speaker 1>It Actually it boiled onto my mom being like a

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 1>week later, being like, hey, were you doing something not

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:30.360
<v Speaker 1>in your room? And I was like, oh my gosh,

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>absolutely not, even though obviously it was. Um, but it's

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:37.759
<v Speaker 1>funny that, Yeah, so my my wed dream story. I

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>still fully vividly remember that. But yeah, there's like a

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of traumatic experiences that little boys go through. I

0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 1>feel like to enter the gateway until like, you know,

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>fully becoming a guy. I guess I don't know. I

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:51.880
<v Speaker 1>think it's probably obviously worse for girls, just because you

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>guys bleed that would like what's happening you have a

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 1>first conversation, that's if you enter. And first off, I

0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 1>never got the sextox, so like interpret that as you may, um,

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:05.719
<v Speaker 1>but I did get the period talk, and I pretended

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:08.360
<v Speaker 1>to my mom I guess that was ten or eleven

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 1>when she talked to me about it. I pretended like

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what what she was saying. Like I

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 1>was like it was news to me, but I had

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 1>heard all about it on the playground before. I just

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 1>didn't want her to know that we were talking about

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 1>that stuff in elementary. Everything gets talked about the playground.

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Very curious about your wet dream, Dean, because the only

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 1>reason I'm curious about is because you say, oh, I

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 1>remember it so vividly, Like do you remember the dream vividly. Yeah,

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a stranger to telling my situation, So I'll

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:39.880
<v Speaker 1>tell you all about my dream. Um. I was ice skating.

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:42.439
<v Speaker 1>I was probably around the age of eleven or twelve

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:46.319
<v Speaker 1>years old, and uh I was the only person on

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the ice. There was a goalie in the goal. Um,

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>sure enough, it was a very attractive woman, and uh,

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I like skated up to and again, this is all

0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:59.359
<v Speaker 1>like conjecture or like, you know, I don't know, like

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I ken't assumptions or like or estimations, because like I

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I remember it, but I could be just

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 1>like a game of telephone in my own brain. Um,

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I like skated up to score goal, and I scored

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 1>the goal, and she was like super happy for me.

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, wait, that's weird. You're the goalie,

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:16.279
<v Speaker 1>Like why would you be happy for me? And then

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, she started taking her pads off,

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:21.360
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh my gosh, this isn't And again,

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 1>mind you, I'm eleven years old at this point. The

0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 1>goalie innuendo too and oh yeah, right, I never even

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I never even thought about that until you just said that.

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:34.719
<v Speaker 1>It's actually very funny. Um, and yeah, she started taking

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:37.360
<v Speaker 1>her paths off. And I remember just like being like, whoa,

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 1>you're like fully naked from me right now? This is

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:42.919
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. And uh it didn't take much. It took

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 1>just like literally like a touch on the shoulder to

0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:50.239
<v Speaker 1>make it happen. And uh that was probably the Yeah,

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:52.720
<v Speaker 1>that was the experience that I had. Um, a touch

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 1>on the shoulder, dude, Okay, but you should have seen

0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:00.319
<v Speaker 1>this goal issue was like, oh, just like because like

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 1>what's her name, the blonde one she like takes off

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:05.879
<v Speaker 1>the helmet and shakes her hair. Oh yeah, Julie the cat.

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:10.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, Julia the cat, right yeah. And you know,

0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know if I feel super comfortable

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 1>sharing my like first wet dream story publicly. But I

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 1>mean that's the truth, so I can't, like why would

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I feel embarrassed about it. I'll stay too late on

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 1>that one, bro. No. And it's funny because I still,

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 1>like I don't think about it often, but like I

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 1>remember it. It's like definitely ingrained in my brain as

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 1>like it's a core memory, you know what I mean.

0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:34.480
<v Speaker 1>So it's like I definitely remember it vividly. Um, I

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 1>have I like maybe like when I was like fourteen

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:39.399
<v Speaker 1>or sixteen, like years later, I like wish I could

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:42.120
<v Speaker 1>replicate it. Um, I think that's kind of like maybe

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 1>like a normal guy thing to want, but like it

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:47.279
<v Speaker 1>never happened. So it is what it is. But you know, wait, Dean,

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I love how open you are about this. I'm smiling

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:51.879
<v Speaker 1>from ear to ear. I think it's so entertaining. Well,

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 1>now you just tell us the age that you were

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:57.799
<v Speaker 1>when you when you lost it my virginity. Yeah. Oh,

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I was probably like fifteen or sixteen. Yeah, I so

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Joanna was actually really funny. Is I remember my first

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 1>wit dream vividly, but I don't remember losing my virginity

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:11.560
<v Speaker 1>vividly because I was very drunk. Um, do you remember

0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 1>who it was with? Oh? Of course it was my

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 1>first girlfriend who I did it for a year and

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 1>a half. That's really what matters most. Yeah, yeah, we

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 1>did it for a long time. She was like she

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 1>was like the first person I ever was in love with,

0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:27.879
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah blah blah. But uh, it was it was.

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 1>It was messy because of the fact that she had

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:34.759
<v Speaker 1>a boyfriend at the time. Uh. And so it's not

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:37.480
<v Speaker 1>a really good way to like open your eyes to

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 1>the world of sex and relationships, you know, like, oh

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:43.880
<v Speaker 1>my god, I'm essentially the mistress in this relationship. Like, wow,

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 1>what a great way to enter into a sexual enlivened life,

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:49.279
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Yeah, you were the f

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:53.320
<v Speaker 1>boy in this scenario. Uh, which is totally cool because

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 1>we actually have two gentlemen from f Boy Island who

0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 1>are coming up on the podcast one nice guy, one

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:01.360
<v Speaker 1>f boy. K see who's the f boy in Fernando

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:02.920
<v Speaker 1>who's the nice guy? And they're coming up on the

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 1>podcast right after this. Hey, welcome back to Help I

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Sucket Dating, Dean, myself, Ashley all here. Dean is back

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:23.040
<v Speaker 1>because WiFi is better right now, which is very nice,

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:25.840
<v Speaker 1>and we also have an email of course, Dean's favorite

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:28.440
<v Speaker 1>segment truly the only reason he's zooming in from Greece

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:30.960
<v Speaker 1>because he just wants to your emails. That's dem chanting.

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 1>By the way, after our conversation over the Help I

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Sucket Dating, we just heard like heavy breathing and after

0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:39.760
<v Speaker 1>talking about what we talked about in the first segment,

0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I just want to clarify that was Dean chanting Easton.

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Are you there in the world of zoom and if

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you are would you like to read this email? I

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 1>am here in the world of zoom. Thank you for

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:53.319
<v Speaker 1>the invitation. I'd love to read the email. It's from anonymous.

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:55.720
<v Speaker 1>So thank you Nick Vayle for listening to the show.

0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:59.239
<v Speaker 1>I just started dating this guy and he checks off

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:02.239
<v Speaker 1>every single box. But the sex is bad? What do

0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I do? Is this a deal breaker? Really detail oriented

0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:10.480
<v Speaker 1>email here? I can't I can't imagine who wrote it. Uh,

0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 1>probably a producer, but we'll take it. Uh So the

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 1>sex is bad? Is that a deal breaker? I don't

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 1>think so. I'm gonna go, oh, yeah, I was gonna

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:24.319
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say that same thing. I don't think

0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 1>it is. I think if everything else is good, that

0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:30.880
<v Speaker 1>would include like communication being good. All that it takes

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:33.839
<v Speaker 1>to make sex really good is a little bit of communication.

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Bottle of wine, right, A bottle of wine maybe like

0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:42.120
<v Speaker 1>a butt plug and a little bit of a vibration

0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:45.800
<v Speaker 1>and you're off to the racist uh and east And

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:47.760
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know you know what I'm talking about.

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:51.280
<v Speaker 1>UM So, yeah, I don't think it's really an issue whatsoever.

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:54.240
<v Speaker 1>I think it's just a matter of like working. Like

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:56.880
<v Speaker 1>we've had this conversation in a different aspect in the

0:40:56.880 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 1>past where it's like, uh, their spark is there, but

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 1>then you had your first kiss and the kiss is bad.

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:03.400
<v Speaker 1>You can teach someone how to be a good kiss her,

0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:07.719
<v Speaker 1>just like you can teach someone how to satisfy you sexually.

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that's really what it goes down to, its communication.

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's easier to teach somebody how to

0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 1>kiss or or how to you know, have sex. We

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:18.359
<v Speaker 1>were adults, we could say the word I was gonna

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:22.239
<v Speaker 1>say that bad kiss? I mean, yeah, why would I

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:24.280
<v Speaker 1>say that bad word? I hate that word? Why would

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 1>you say that? I have no idea. I said that

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:28.719
<v Speaker 1>one time and a hate it. I thought she was

0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 1>going to throw up all over. I don't know. I

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:33.440
<v Speaker 1>can't stand that bad word in that. Um, what is it?

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:35.399
<v Speaker 1>I gotta know what it is? What is it? I

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 1>think F boy island? What do you substitute F for with? Yeah?

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't like it as an action. I like it

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:42.719
<v Speaker 1>as as a verb. I don't like it as a verb.

0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I like it as a adjective. I respect that, and

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I am fully onboard with that mindset as well. Thank you.

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:53.320
<v Speaker 1>I think I think, um, when it comes to this stuff,

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:56.320
<v Speaker 1>it's weird because it's it's funny because we've kind of

0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 1>had this conversation alarity on this podcast episode. But I

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 1>feel like a lot of people are scared to talk

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:05.560
<v Speaker 1>about what they like, especially when it pertains sex. Right,

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Like I was scared to tell people what I like,

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:09.879
<v Speaker 1>and I was even more afraid to ask the other

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:12.680
<v Speaker 1>person what they like. So it's like I am still

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:16.280
<v Speaker 1>a little tentative when it comes to that arena um.

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:18.319
<v Speaker 1>And I think that what we need to start doing

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:20.319
<v Speaker 1>is just like being more open about the things that

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 1>we like, the things we dislike, and asking the partner

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:25.440
<v Speaker 1>that we have what they like and what they dislike,

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:27.960
<v Speaker 1>because at the end of day, that's how you learn. Like,

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, you you could guess, which is fine, I

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 1>guess for an extent, but you're never going to learn

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 1>as much as you will unless you actually ask them. Yeah,

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people are afraid to say

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:43.360
<v Speaker 1>what they like because it is taboo. A lot of

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:46.239
<v Speaker 1>things they like, specifically S and M. I mean, there's

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 1>no uh, there's no secret as to why fifty Shades

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:53.600
<v Speaker 1>of Gray is as popular as it is. It's not

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:56.800
<v Speaker 1>love story as much as people I like to argue

0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:59.920
<v Speaker 1>that it is. It's not. That's the selling point of

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 1>that franchise, is the S and M. Right or wrong?

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't agree. But so you're telling me that if

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:09.880
<v Speaker 1>fifty Shades are grad got rid of all that sex. No, No,

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:13.320
<v Speaker 1>it would still be as popular as FT sex, but

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't be as popular. I don't know. I wouldn't care.

0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm fine with it either way. I like the fact

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:21.360
<v Speaker 1>that she's like relatable and innocent and then this really

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 1>hot guy who were successful comes and sweeps her off

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:25.640
<v Speaker 1>her feet and that's so sweet. But I'll tell you

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:27.719
<v Speaker 1>the correct answer, which is no, it would not be

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 1>as successful without Jared, and I have arguince we first

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:35.960
<v Speaker 1>became friends. Um, I'm inclined to take as she sat

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:38.360
<v Speaker 1>in this. I think if the S and M was

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 1>sebstitutor for something even a little bit more gentle, I

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:45.000
<v Speaker 1>still think the series would be as popular as it is. People.

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:47.920
<v Speaker 1>It's based on the Twilight series. It is a fan

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:50.800
<v Speaker 1>fiction of Twilight, and we all like Twilight without the

0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 1>SNP because of the vampire, because I love aspect, because

0:43:55.680 --> 0:44:01.120
<v Speaker 1>there's been in love Jared. It's forbidden, Yeah, but the

0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:03.800
<v Speaker 1>forbidden part of the love and fifty sets great is

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:07.640
<v Speaker 1>the SNM No, it's it's the fact that he's emotionally

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:10.640
<v Speaker 1>unavailable and she makes him emotionally available to her, and

0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:14.040
<v Speaker 1>that he wants to strap her up. You read and

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:17.879
<v Speaker 1>watched all of them like, but that's besides the point.

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 1>It's a cult phenomenon because of those things, because of

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 1>the vampires, because of no nobody really cares about them

0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:28.759
<v Speaker 1>being vampires. I completely disagree with that. There's something like

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:31.239
<v Speaker 1>very like even I bet it. I bet it's the

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 1>sucking of the throat that people love so much. Man,

0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:40.040
<v Speaker 1>I hate Jared. I hate to say this, Um, and

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:42.360
<v Speaker 1>you know you're my co host for life, but I

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:45.319
<v Speaker 1>think Ashley has got you on this one. Thank you. Well,

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm out number two to one. Well anonymous, Nick, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Why is fifty Shades of Gray so popular and twilight

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<v Speaker 1>to a certain extent, but more specifically fifty shades great

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<v Speaker 1>because that's more of the topic we're trying to cover

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<v Speaker 1>right now, which is do you think it's as popular

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<v Speaker 1>as it is solely based on the love story, like

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley is saying, and Dean solely but it's mainly there's

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<v Speaker 1>a difference. I think it's mainly the S and M. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's definitely not but but but those two are

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<v Speaker 1>like obviously it's also of course it's the love story

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<v Speaker 1>and on the on the Instagram, yeah, we will, but

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<v Speaker 1>I say that it's like S and M compared love story,

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<v Speaker 1>that's very close. Yeah, but it's more. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>it's overly, but I definitely think that it's more because

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<v Speaker 1>of the it's it's the taboo of it. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>like this super hot guy that is emotionally unavailable and

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<v Speaker 1>like is freaky as hell. I think girls like we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, it's like how many times like you hear

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<v Speaker 1>like when I'm watching a show or like girls love

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<v Speaker 1>like being pushed against the wall and it's like that

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<v Speaker 1>ship Like I would constitute that as some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>S and M. Okay. Here's the other thing. That made

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<v Speaker 1>fifty Shades very popular, and it was because it normalized

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<v Speaker 1>being able to read softcore porn in front of people

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<v Speaker 1>that would yeah yeah, but no, but it's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>because it was like, oh, yeah, no, shame, I like porn.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of it's kind of like that. Yeah, that's why.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more about the sex. Yeah, but it's like in

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<v Speaker 1>romance novels, do you read it for It's like like

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<v Speaker 1>the combination of it all. No. And it's also because

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<v Speaker 1>there's sex and then there's S and M. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it matters whether it was S and M

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<v Speaker 1>or just regular sex, because I think it would have

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<v Speaker 1>been totally I think it's been just as popular if

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't there was no Redroom of Pain. I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Ashley has kind of nailed on the head

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion. Well, I'm outnumbered once again. Here we go, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but anyway, Yeah, but let us know, let's very fascinating conversations. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go ahead and sign us off here. I

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<v Speaker 1>know I wasn't here for a little bit of the

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<v Speaker 1>interview with Casey and some of the interview with um Fernando,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would like to say thank you to both

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<v Speaker 1>of them, Casey and Fernando. Fernando, I swear if we

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<v Speaker 1>see you on F Boy Island season two as the

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<v Speaker 1>f boy, not the f boy, but the nice guy

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<v Speaker 1>dating you know, potential f girls or nice girls, I

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<v Speaker 1>would be very, very happy. So hopefully that happens. Casey, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm as excited about that for you,

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<v Speaker 1>but who knows. Um, Ashley, thank you for stepping in

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<v Speaker 1>for me for majority of the episode. I apologize for

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<v Speaker 1>my WiFi connection. Don't. Well, you're in Greece. You know

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<v Speaker 1>it's understandable. Well, I know, but I still feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I should have this figured out. I thought for sure

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<v Speaker 1>that the WiFi would be good enough. Um obviously learn

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<v Speaker 1>that it wasn't, but we made it work for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part. I'm I'm happy being part of eighty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the podcast and only give me eighty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the paycheck at the end of the day. That's all

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<v Speaker 1>I need, Um, or give me zero percent. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>don't even need a paycheck. I just like, I like

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<v Speaker 1>just hanging out with you guys. Yeah, big thank you

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