Speaker 1: I Suck At Dating with Dengler and Jared Haven Heart
Speaker 1: Radio Podcast. All right, welcome back to help I Suck
Speaker 1: at Dating. Like we said before, we have very special
Speaker 1: guest who is on the line from F Boy Island,
Speaker 1: which of course you can watch on HBO Max. Everybody's
Speaker 1: watching it. It is Casey John Johnson, a self proclaimed
Speaker 1: f boy. So Casey, thanks for joining us on the
Speaker 1: podcast today. Man, yeah, thanks for having me. Jared, I
Speaker 1: appreciate it. It's it's an honor to be on here
Speaker 1: talking to you guys. Well, that's so sweet, but the
Speaker 1: honor is all ours. I say this next to my husband. Um, so,
Speaker 1: this is how secure we are. You're definitely, in my
Speaker 1: appoint of view, the best looking guy on not only
Speaker 1: the best F boy Island, not not only the best
Speaker 1: looking F boy guy, but the best looking guy in general.
Speaker 1: Nice guys. These guys have no chance next to him.
Speaker 1: And really, you you lead the way you know you
Speaker 1: did until this crazy Well. I don't want to spoil
Speaker 1: Earl or anyone, but there's there's a crazy ceremony you
Speaker 1: know where you do get to part um through the
Speaker 1: parks and I think everybody was quite shocked. Um it was.
Speaker 1: It was a loss. But we found out then as
Speaker 1: if it wasn't obvious already that you were a self
Speaker 1: proclaimed F boy. Now, what what made you enough boy? Well,
Speaker 1: my question is like I want to ask about the
Speaker 1: casting process, like did you just have to be like
Speaker 1: the honor system, like, yeah, I'm an F boy. Well,
Speaker 1: they started throwing the word around. They were like, hey, hey, kay,
Speaker 1: so are you are you? Are you an F boy?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I was like, why do they
Speaker 1: keep saying this? And I was like, I think they're
Speaker 1: trying to get at something here, and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well let's run with it. I mean, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I'm twenty four, I'm single, and I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm just doing anything any normal four year
Speaker 1: old person would do. And so they definitely were like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this kid, the hair, that tattoo, he's he's definitely not
Speaker 1: a nice guy. That's that's sure. You know what's funny
Speaker 1: is that Dean's really supposed to be here today, because
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Dean may have inspired the whole concept
Speaker 1: with a lan and so along. Gael, the executive producer
Speaker 1: of F Boy Island, was the executive producer and really um,
Speaker 1: the mastermind behind Bachelor in Paradise and you your your
Speaker 1: vibe very much reminds me of a young Dean. He's reformed,
Speaker 1: he's now a reformed nice guy. Now Dean's just an
Speaker 1: F boy on podcast. He'sn't show up when he's supposed
Speaker 1: to be. Oh that's that's awesome. No, I mean I've
Speaker 1: been I've been following you a Dean for a minute,
Speaker 1: so to be to be able to talk to you
Speaker 1: and be compared to the Dan babies, that's not lit
Speaker 1: deany babies. He's got to change that. I guess you
Speaker 1: should never really change it. He'll always be Danny babies.
Speaker 1: So now your self proclaimed reformed nice guy. So how
Speaker 1: do you go from being an F boy to reform
Speaker 1: nice guy? Yeah, it's a great question. I think that
Speaker 1: any time. You know, my my one thing is you know,
Speaker 1: obviously respect honestly with all women. But you know, I
Speaker 1: could go on one two dates and it might not
Speaker 1: be for me, but you might meet that girl. You know,
Speaker 1: you might meet that girl who's like, Wow, it's really
Speaker 1: worth pursuing a relationship with. And when I met CJ
Speaker 1: on the show, I was like, you know what I
Speaker 1: got a man up here, like, I gotta change my
Speaker 1: ways a little bit because she's calling me a boy toy,
Speaker 1: she's calling me a project, and apparently she's she's she's
Speaker 1: seeing something in me that has potential. So that's when
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, maybe it's time to reform this
Speaker 1: f boy lifestyle that I've been living. And I think
Speaker 1: I want to give a huge shout out to CJ
Speaker 1: for for making the decision in my mind to to
Speaker 1: step up to the plate and be a be a
Speaker 1: reformed nice guy for her. So when did the show tape?
Speaker 1: We failed? We got there in February and it was February,
Speaker 1: all of March and about half of April, two and
Speaker 1: a half months. That's a long shout quarantine, super long,
Speaker 1: super long. By the end of it, I think everyone
Speaker 1: was exhausted and was just like, hey, let's let's get
Speaker 1: out for contact. Paradise is a month long. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: for the very longest. It's like four to twenty six
Speaker 1: days for the people who get engaged and start there. Now,
Speaker 1: the reason I ask you this is because I'm like,
Speaker 1: how was the hot girl summer for the reformed nice guy?
Speaker 1: I sure fantastic. Let's just say it's been a it's
Speaker 1: been a really good, really good month for for the reforms.
Speaker 1: What they called it. They called this something like the
Speaker 1: summer of oh hot back summer or something like that. Yeah. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: everybody's doing it this summer. It's good times. So so
Speaker 1: are you single now? Yeah? Absolutely, absolutely, I'm single. It's
Speaker 1: like absolutely, my show is airing right now. You don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm single and single and single? How many
Speaker 1: times I'm saying no, yeah, you know now they I'm
Speaker 1: kind of just focused on myself. I'm really interested in
Speaker 1: what's gonna come next of me, and the potential for
Speaker 1: something else is definitely there. Maybe uh you know, I know,
Speaker 1: they just announced season two, so I definitely would be
Speaker 1: interested in speaking with a lone about that. Well, that's
Speaker 1: what I was going to ask, because they HBO Max
Speaker 1: just announced that they're doing season two of F Boy Island,
Speaker 1: and I'm curious are they going to have a whole
Speaker 1: new cast. What I think would be really cool is
Speaker 1: if they do bring in a new cast of f
Speaker 1: boys and nice guys and women obviously, but then you
Speaker 1: have former contestants like yourself, Casey, like an F boy
Speaker 1: who turned into a nice guy come back on FOY
Speaker 1: season two. I think you're onto something. I think that
Speaker 1: would be okay, okay, okay, but how are you going
Speaker 1: to prove that you're now a nice guy? That is
Speaker 1: the That's a great question. I might need your help
Speaker 1: with that. Actually, how how am I going to prove?
Speaker 1: How does one prove that they're a nice guy? Actually,
Speaker 1: probably like getting a girlfriend and being loyal to her.
Speaker 1: You can't be you can't have a girlfriend going on
Speaker 1: the show, so I don't know. Then then you're immediately
Speaker 1: an F boy immediately immediately, No, I think that right now.
Speaker 1: I just need to, especially you know, basically on social
Speaker 1: media to just portray I mean, I really am a
Speaker 1: nice guy. Like, were you guys shocked or did you
Speaker 1: already know I was a boy? Quite evidence that you were.
Speaker 1: If it doesn't mean that F boys aren't nice, It
Speaker 1: just means that they are not good to date for
Speaker 1: your soul. Dude, Deanie Babies is like the nicest guy ever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he may have been, you know, an f point
Speaker 1: in his time. Okay, I'll take that. Well, I'm working
Speaker 1: on it every day. I'm just becoming a nicer guy
Speaker 1: every day, and by the time we shoot season two,
Speaker 1: hopefully I'll be the nice Yeah. But you know, be
Speaker 1: cool is if you went back on season two and
Speaker 1: nobody knew if you were still an F boy or
Speaker 1: a nice guy. You're just putting out some great That
Speaker 1: would be cool if you had former as reformed because
Speaker 1: like he went through the camp. Yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden hot vack summer happens and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what's case you've been do it? Okay? This was Jared
Speaker 1: and my big question going into this, um how was
Speaker 1: like everybody and F boy for real? Like do you
Speaker 1: think that the nice guys are really that nice? Or
Speaker 1: like were they just calling themselves that? Don't even give me,
Speaker 1: don't even get you firmly believe this. I believe that
Speaker 1: so many of the nice guys were definitely way more
Speaker 1: F boy. I think there's one person that comes straight
Speaker 1: to my mind, probably the person that won c J. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I think I was a nicer, a way nicer guy
Speaker 1: than he was. Okay, still binging. So in order to
Speaker 1: find this out, you'll have to you'll have to watch
Speaker 1: to the very end. Well, I did want to ask
Speaker 1: about because you became really close friends with Garrett on
Speaker 1: your season. Uh, and so are you guys, You guys
Speaker 1: still romantic? You guys lived together, right? Uh? Not yet,
Speaker 1: not yet. So I'm just kind of some logistical stuff.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I've been a l a couple of times
Speaker 1: to stay with him, and in this past weekend he
Speaker 1: came to Cleveland, we went to the Jake Paul Fights together.
Speaker 1: So yes, we're That's a nice segment to my next question,
Speaker 1: which is have you met Sarah and is she nice? Oh? Man,
Speaker 1: I met Sarah, well, Sar, she met Sarah on the show. No,
Speaker 1: I thought, no, no, no no, no, this is Jake Paul's
Speaker 1: another Sarah. No, there's a different Sarah, Jake Paul's ex girlfriend,
Speaker 1: Sarah May. I think her name is Mia. Her name
Speaker 1: is Mia. Oh, I understand how we're reading. We're reading
Speaker 1: the headline like, okay, yes, yes, yes, it's says Sarah who.
Speaker 1: Let me start over the headline because I'm all over
Speaker 1: the place. So Garrett apparently is dating Jake Paul's ex girlfriend.
Speaker 1: The headline is saying Sarah who as in Sarah from
Speaker 1: the show. But Jake Paul's ex girlfriend is Mia. Got it?
Speaker 1: I read that headline wrong. So my question is, but
Speaker 1: why is she at his his fight? Yeah, this is weird. So,
Speaker 1: oh man, I'm in hotwater right now. Yes, I have
Speaker 1: met me. She is she is very she's very nice.
Speaker 1: But I think that headline was very out of context.
Speaker 1: They're they're they're not like dating dating. I think that
Speaker 1: that was taken. I'm not saying that either, Garrett. I'm sorry, No,
Speaker 1: they're not dating me as a really sweet girl. I
Speaker 1: think Garrett is trying to focus on himself right now
Speaker 1: and he's you know, a lot of people are upset
Speaker 1: with Garrett. So he's he's in uh, he's in, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to make his public image a little bit better
Speaker 1: right now. And I think that's where he's at. Yes,
Speaker 1: So Garrett was at the Jake Paul fight. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: can't know. It was me and him. She was not there.
Speaker 1: She was not there. It was just it was just
Speaker 1: Garrett and I. You know, he's a I'm a lover,
Speaker 1: he's a fighter. Like he's trying to call out Jake Paul.
Speaker 1: He wants to fight Jake Paul. I'm like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Jake's a pretty good boxer. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't get the whole fight. Every wants to fight these days.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not. I don't want to fight anyone.
Speaker 1: I'm too nice for that. You've got too good of
Speaker 1: a face. That seems like to say, speaking of Dean,
Speaker 1: somebody's joining us from what it looks like a spa.
Speaker 1: He's definitely has one of those rooms in Greece with
Speaker 1: the pool in there. Honeymoon. Before my internet drops again,
Speaker 1: I want to make one thing clear. I'm doing my
Speaker 1: best to be here. I've moved nineteen times to find
Speaker 1: the most strong WiFi connection. I'm doing my best. But Casey,
Speaker 1: it's an honor to have you on this podcast. My
Speaker 1: girlfriend and I watched every episode of f Boy Island,
Speaker 1: and I gotta say I don't think I was in
Speaker 1: the minority when I was rooting for CJ to pick you.
Speaker 1: At the very very end, I've got a laundry list
Speaker 1: of questions for you. I'm gonna let Jared and actually
Speaker 1: continue to interview you because I'm terrified of my connection
Speaker 1: dropping mid question. So I'm just like coming in for
Speaker 1: a second, and I hope it last long enough for
Speaker 1: me to like maybe like ask a question or two
Speaker 1: along the way. Well, I got a question perfectly. Okay, Casey,
Speaker 1: You've mentioned multiple times in this interview that you're like
Speaker 1: focusing on yourself and that Garrett's focusing on himself. Is
Speaker 1: that really just code word for like, we're still going
Speaker 1: to mess around a little bit longer. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: twenty four, you have every writing. Yeah. No, I mean
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I really do you know.
Speaker 1: I had my I was in college, I went to college,
Speaker 1: I had fun, I messed around, But at this point
Speaker 1: in my life, I really do want to focus on
Speaker 1: what's next for my career. Uh. And so I think
Speaker 1: right now, if I if I were, I think the
Speaker 1: only girl that I would consider, you know, pursuing, would
Speaker 1: be CJ. At this point, you know, other than that,
Speaker 1: I'm really focused on myself. But if CJ were to
Speaker 1: perhaps stumble back into my life, which could be a possibility,
Speaker 1: then I would definitely pursue. They're talking, so, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: So here's my chance to interject. Then, So this is
Speaker 1: actually one of the quite Kalin it out like five
Speaker 1: questions that she wanted me to ask you again. She's sleeping.
Speaker 1: It's like eleven PM here in Grease. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: She wants to know, are you aware of like c
Speaker 1: J and Jared's current relationship status. Yeah, I am, I
Speaker 1: very much A yeah, and that is it's it's I
Speaker 1: think there. I think they're okay. Yeah, so if they
Speaker 1: were to like go on an ice cream date, they
Speaker 1: would pick Rocky Road as their flavor. That was good.
Speaker 1: I like, that's when I tried, that's what I do.
Speaker 1: He definitely hate me for saying that because that was
Speaker 1: the stupidest thing I've ever said. But everybody's getting the
Speaker 1: point here. Everybody's getting the point. Everybody's getting the point. Well, Casey,
Speaker 1: we really appreciate you joining us. We hope nothing but
Speaker 1: the best for you in the future, for you and
Speaker 1: c J. Maybe we'll see. We'll see what the future
Speaker 1: has and who knows, maybe f Boy Island season two.
Speaker 1: I think it would be awesome to have you back on.
Speaker 1: So we'll text Alon and be like, you gotta get
Speaker 1: Casey back on this show because he's the best. You
Speaker 1: couldn't see Casey's face when he was talking about Rocky
Speaker 1: Road ice cream and c J and all that, but
Speaker 1: like it was very smiley and telling what's ally, Oh hey,
Speaker 1: thanks for having us. Actually Jared's so good to meet
Speaker 1: you guys, and Uh, I think again. Thanks, it's been
Speaker 1: a pleasure of dere Thanks Bunny, Yeah you too, really
Speaker 1: nice meeting man. Hey, welcome back to help I suck
Speaker 1: a dating. Of course, Jared here, Ashley here, Dean he
Speaker 1: might be here. We don't really know. We shouldnt even
Speaker 1: allow him in anymore. No, that's not no, that's not fair.
Speaker 1: We have a great guest on from f Boy Island,
Speaker 1: and we just had Casey Johnson on. Now we have
Speaker 1: a nice guy. We have Fernando Titus. Fernando, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: having me Jared and Nashally I appreciate it. And Dean,
Speaker 1: who wasn't here with us today. No, we appreciate so
Speaker 1: so for no, No, I want to talk about the
Speaker 1: casting process for f Buy Island. Did like, was it
Speaker 1: weird to be like, no, I'm a nice guy or
Speaker 1: did they put the label on you? Did you approach
Speaker 1: them throughout casting? Was like, oh, I'm not an f boy,
Speaker 1: I'm more of a nice guy. So the casting process
Speaker 1: was pretty interesting the whole time up until we actually
Speaker 1: got to set and UH delivered our electronics and we
Speaker 1: didn't know what we were being casting for. He didn't
Speaker 1: know what show you were being casting for. Not oh
Speaker 1: like it was it was like the weirdest thing. Like
Speaker 1: I remember getting to the airport and just seeing a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of good looking dudes, and like they were like, yes,
Speaker 1: this like Fire Festival Part two, Like what's on here?
Speaker 1: Like what was going on? Even the first contract that
Speaker 1: we got, which was which was a hoax, it said
Speaker 1: Lord of the Bros. So we were like, what is
Speaker 1: going on here? But during casting, it was the typical
Speaker 1: questions that they probably asked you for going on a
Speaker 1: bachelor bachroom Paradise. Who you are, what do you do,
Speaker 1: what makes you an eligible bachelor? What makes you different
Speaker 1: than the rest? How do you treat women in real life?
Speaker 1: What do you look for in a relationship? Things like that,
Speaker 1: And I guess my answers just led me to be
Speaker 1: being labeled as a nice guy. So we didn't know
Speaker 1: that there was gonna be a nice guy and f
Speaker 1: boy like battle. And when we got there and after
Speaker 1: we went through everything, at the end of the initial interview,
Speaker 1: they just said, hey, so your name is saying I'm
Speaker 1: a nice guy, and that's not figured out. Oh, I
Speaker 1: guess I'm a nice guy, Breneta. I have a question
Speaker 1: for you. So for the I love that you're a
Speaker 1: nice guy. For the F Boys, what do you think
Speaker 1: they said that like per the producers to consider them
Speaker 1: as F boys, Because I remember, like I know, like
Speaker 1: when they get called that for F Boys, there was
Speaker 1: like a little bit of a montage as like to
Speaker 1: they're like casting tape or whatever. But like, why did
Speaker 1: those guys say those things? Like, I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: like an F boy is the king of like a
Speaker 1: king of lying, So it's like, why would they be
Speaker 1: so honest about those things in the casting material? Do
Speaker 1: you think honestly seeing those casting tastes was hilarious? I
Speaker 1: had no idea that those guys are going that book
Speaker 1: wow in their interview process, And to be honest, I
Speaker 1: just think that they just went for it. They wanted
Speaker 1: to just be themselves and just show like, Hey, this
Speaker 1: is me. I don't know what type of show this is,
Speaker 1: but I feel like this fits the mantra for all
Speaker 1: the shows that are out right now. So maybe that's
Speaker 1: why that they went with that guy. I like, I
Speaker 1: think that makes a lot of sense. What if you
Speaker 1: showed up and you like didn't want to be part
Speaker 1: of a dating show? Or did you have a pretty
Speaker 1: good idea that it was a dating show? Oh? I
Speaker 1: knew it was a dating show. The thing that confused
Speaker 1: me the most was getting to the airport and seeing
Speaker 1: maybe like the thirty dudes, and I was like, the
Speaker 1: other plane, maybe there were thirty girls there, Like I
Speaker 1: didn't know, Like, yeah, I didn't know anything, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't know if it was gonna be one girl,
Speaker 1: three girls, went to one ratio anything like that. I
Speaker 1: just knew that there would be women, And when I
Speaker 1: got to the airport, I knew there were dudes. Did
Speaker 1: you guess any show that it might have been. Were
Speaker 1: you thinking that you might have been on one show? Uh? Not?
Speaker 1: In particular only because I had already gone through the
Speaker 1: casting process for Love Island and Too Hot to Handle,
Speaker 1: so I knew it wasn't those already, and it was
Speaker 1: a brand new show on HBO, and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's not The Winner, so it's not twelve days to Christmas,
Speaker 1: and of course The Bachelor's not on on HBO, so
Speaker 1: I knew it wasn't bad. Prettive, I gotta speak up
Speaker 1: real quick because my girlfriend and I watched the show
Speaker 1: in like we like religiously in a weird way, you know,
Speaker 1: like they released them in in in segments or whatever.
Speaker 1: In our opinion, both my your my girlfriend's opinion, you
Speaker 1: were the most eligible bachelor out of all of them,
Speaker 1: and it almost it almost wasn't even a competition, like
Speaker 1: you were like the guy, right, So, like, how has
Speaker 1: I guess, how is your life like been affected by
Speaker 1: the show coming off of it now that it's fully aired.
Speaker 1: Now that the show is fully aired, the main thing
Speaker 1: that I noticed is that nobody's asking me about how
Speaker 1: I feel about things, And that was such a huge
Speaker 1: change for me. And I'm so I'm easy. I'm easily
Speaker 1: able to now express myself in jo Like I always
Speaker 1: thought I was a catch and I was always a
Speaker 1: good dude, But now I can just open up easier.
Speaker 1: I know, tons of questions to ask to start to
Speaker 1: like get to know somebody a lot better. And it's
Speaker 1: really just made my interpersonal relationships are a lot better
Speaker 1: and it's definitely easier to just talk to anybody in general.
Speaker 1: The magic of working with a long gale, it'll do
Speaker 1: a lot for you. And when it comes to that
Speaker 1: emotional maturity. Uh. So, are you still an eligible bachelor? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Currently I am. I'm well, I'm back in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: I am working, and I'm just loving with what's like
Speaker 1: giving me right now? Would you be open to going
Speaker 1: back on f F Boy Island because they said that
Speaker 1: they're doing a season two. Oh? Absolutely, I would definitely
Speaker 1: go back and show the right person. You know that
Speaker 1: they deserve the best in your life, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give it. I gotta say something because I heard before
Speaker 1: my wife I dropped when you're talking to Casey before this,
Speaker 1: you guys talking about f By Island season two, and
Speaker 1: I could have missed something, and so if I if
Speaker 1: I repeat something, I apologize. I think what they should
Speaker 1: do for season two is bring back nice guys like
Speaker 1: for An and oh maybe a couple of others, and
Speaker 1: then those are the guys, and then it's kind of
Speaker 1: like an F Girl Island in a sense, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, because there's definitely no shortage of f girls.
Speaker 1: I think we bring back the non nice guy. We
Speaker 1: bring back the no nice guys that maybe like we're
Speaker 1: just shy of like finding what they wanted to find
Speaker 1: and bring you know, thirty girls in and kind of
Speaker 1: see how it I hold from there. If I was
Speaker 1: a line which I obviously I can't even hold the
Speaker 1: candle to the guy. That's kind of where my mind
Speaker 1: would be at this point. I think, I think, and
Speaker 1: I think Fernando would be a prime candidate for that
Speaker 1: role in my opinion. Thank you, I I totally agree to.
Speaker 1: I do think that in my position, I was just
Speaker 1: a little shy, and I was battling O g Jared,
Speaker 1: and he was making her so upsettled the time, and
Speaker 1: I was, you know, always there to pick up pieces,
Speaker 1: and I just felt like the connection that they had,
Speaker 1: like the kind of disruptive the connection I had. So
Speaker 1: now if I had a chance to do that, you know,
Speaker 1: I'd be able to actually just see everything and give
Speaker 1: everybody a fair shot. Yeah, that's actually a really good idea, Dean,
Speaker 1: because what Ashley and I were thinking was in what
Speaker 1: they could do is bring on a new cast of
Speaker 1: guys and girls, but then bring back former cast members
Speaker 1: from season one, Like it could be Fernando, it could
Speaker 1: be Casey, but it's still not known if they're like
Speaker 1: they come back and it could be like Casey could
Speaker 1: still be an F boy, or he could turn him
Speaker 1: to a nice guy nobody knows, or like Fernando, obviously
Speaker 1: you'd be a nice guy. But hypopothetically speaking, like what
Speaker 1: if you go on season two and since the time
Speaker 1: has passed, you turned into an f Yeah, because he
Speaker 1: got like his ego stroked. All I can think about
Speaker 1: is Blake from Bachelor in Paradise, Like that would be it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like if Blake was on
Speaker 1: season one F boy and he was a nice guy,
Speaker 1: Blake Hurtsman, and then he went back like he did
Speaker 1: on Paradise, he would have been an F boy and
Speaker 1: nobody would have known it, you know, nobody would have
Speaker 1: saw it coming. I gotta say. I gotta say, though,
Speaker 1: I think Fernando is in a unique position because Blake.
Speaker 1: I would probably loot myself into the same scenario as Blake,
Speaker 1: Like we're just like bland white dudes who like just
Speaker 1: somehow fell into this like realm of popularity. Fernando has
Speaker 1: been in the in the world for a long time.
Speaker 1: He's a freaking olympian, He's a doctor with multiple practices.
Speaker 1: Like this guy is no stranger to like having women
Speaker 1: just throw themselves at him. So that's kind of why
Speaker 1: I think it would be a little bit different for Fernando. UM.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to put any words in your mouth,
Speaker 1: of course, but like that's just kind of how I
Speaker 1: pursue that Fernando is definitely more of a catch than
Speaker 1: you and play I totally stop, I'm not doing Fernando. UM,
Speaker 1: how did it feel being the only guy who like
Speaker 1: had a real job in the house, because that's what
Speaker 1: I noticed. Yeah, I noticed that too very quickly, especially
Speaker 1: with the type of combos and things being said on camera.
Speaker 1: I was like, you, guys, you have a life after this.
Speaker 1: But I was like, oh, you don't, so like you're
Speaker 1: just you're just doing you know, like I have to
Speaker 1: go back to a job, I have a license, you know,
Speaker 1: Like I gotta be careful but also uphold myself to
Speaker 1: who I truly am, and so just being there, I
Speaker 1: always had to be mindful of the things that I
Speaker 1: said and the things I did, and of course I
Speaker 1: wanted to make my mom proud as well. He is
Speaker 1: a real nice guy. Yeah, you're a real nice guy.
Speaker 1: You really are. And I will say all the people
Speaker 1: that we saw on the show, you definitely handled yourself
Speaker 1: above and beyond anyone else that we saw. So that's
Speaker 1: that's exactly what I'm kind of rooting for the f
Speaker 1: boy season two to be more of like an girl Island,
Speaker 1: I guess could say, and make the guys more of
Speaker 1: like the Bachelor, you know, and Fernando could be one
Speaker 1: of the Bachelor's for sure. That's exactly where Alon said
Speaker 1: is at and I it's so I'm sure Ashley and
Speaker 1: Jared you guys have and Fernando you guys. I'll watch
Speaker 1: the show, uh and I just kind of want to
Speaker 1: relive the final episode where um, you know, she's choosing
Speaker 1: O G Jared and O G. Jared like steps back
Speaker 1: to make his speech before he like says whether he's
Speaker 1: gonna split the money or not. Dude, me and Kaylyn
Speaker 1: were like staring at each other like on that was
Speaker 1: like the apex of the show, like pins and needles.
Speaker 1: Like I thought for sure he was gonna be like,
Speaker 1: I'm taking the money just like Garrett did, but he
Speaker 1: he didn't. And I mean I kept up to day
Speaker 1: on their relationship status, but I mean I still can't believe.
Speaker 1: The ending was absolutely insane, and Fernando to be part
Speaker 1: of that was I mean it must have been like
Speaker 1: life changing in a lot of ways, right, it was.
Speaker 1: There were a lot of real emotions going through there.
Speaker 1: I was on my toes the entire time. And I
Speaker 1: actually didn't see what he said to Nikia after I
Speaker 1: was eliminated in the final elimination. So the way he
Speaker 1: started that speech, it was right on par with what
Speaker 1: he was telling us back at the cottages. Like he
Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to take the money, like he
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. And when he stopped, I was watching it
Speaker 1: on TV. I was just like, I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, he's gonna take to and then he actually didn't.
Speaker 1: So it was such a it was a relieving surprise. Okay,
Speaker 1: but tell us, so let's say you were We all
Speaker 1: know you're a nice guy, said it would have been
Speaker 1: split anyways. If you were in his position, would you
Speaker 1: have taken it or would you have split any think? Uh?
Speaker 1: If I was in his position, ah, man, he I
Speaker 1: probably would have split it. You know. I saw how
Speaker 1: much she liked him and he just had her, you know,
Speaker 1: And so that only would have been the right thing
Speaker 1: to do, regardless of if they work or not. At
Speaker 1: least you know, you put her through so much harder
Speaker 1: at least make it a little bit easier after the show.
Speaker 1: I respect that absolutely. Fernando, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: joining us today. We really appreciate it. Uh. And then hopefully,
Speaker 1: like Dean said, hopefully you are You know, it's f
Speaker 1: Girl Island. That will be season two F Boy Island,
Speaker 1: and you're one of the one of the guys. Yes, man,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me. Everybody, I really
Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time out to do this one. No,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you coming on. Fernando Titus, thank you so much. Hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna help I suck at dating Jared here, Dean
Speaker 1: is here as well. Dean's in Greece, so his WIFEI
Speaker 1: is kind of going in and out. So I have
Speaker 1: my wonderful, beautiful, somewhat sick wife sitting next to me
Speaker 1: because we have some very special guests from F Boy
Speaker 1: Island to show that both Dean and Ashley love and
Speaker 1: I love as well. But uh, I gotta be honest,
Speaker 1: I haven't finished watching yet, so I gotta get on that.
Speaker 1: But it's a great show anyway. Ashley, how are you hi?
Speaker 1: I'm good. Hey, Dean, what part of Greece are you in. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm actually in your guys favorite section of Greece, Santorini,
Speaker 1: which I remember you guys came here for your honeymoon,
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. Yes, And we chose Santorini because,
Speaker 1: like they say, it's like the spa relaxation not party
Speaker 1: section of Greece. It's the best. Yeah. Yeah, So we
Speaker 1: got in maybe like six hours ago. I walked around,
Speaker 1: as I'm sure you guys explored all the areas. It's
Speaker 1: it's really just one of the most picturesque cities or towns.
Speaker 1: I guess, I don't know whatever it is in the
Speaker 1: in the world, right, like cliff side, beautiful buildings, incredible sceneries. Um.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so that's all my wife I suck. So
Speaker 1: I apologize if I'm in and out for you. When
Speaker 1: we were in Santorini, we're obviously posting and Rob Thomas
Speaker 1: texted me and he said, we love Santorini. I hope
Speaker 1: you guys are doing well and the honeymoon's going well.
Speaker 1: And I was like, actually, I'm so happy we chose Santorini.
Speaker 1: You're such a lack of or did you go to
Speaker 1: EA yet? Are you India are you staying there? We
Speaker 1: are saying in EA. Um, tomorrow we go. So we
Speaker 1: got delayed a day because if IDAs um, I guess
Speaker 1: appreciation to the north, like New Jersey, New York area.
Speaker 1: So so if I got pushed the whole day, So
Speaker 1: we lost today. But we go Greece. We go Greece
Speaker 1: to Italy, which I know you guys spend time in
Speaker 1: Positano as well. We're going. We're going like Como to
Speaker 1: the Dolomites and mental Tuscany. Okay, so are you guys
Speaker 1: on your honeymoon? Now? It's just just yeah, this is
Speaker 1: definitely honeymoon, right, you guys are married. Yeah, I actually
Speaker 1: actually thank you for asking the question. Yes, it actually
Speaker 1: is our honeymoon. UM see, I believe him. So we're
Speaker 1: doing our best. We're trying to make it as a
Speaker 1: romance filled as we possibly can. Um. It's just it's
Speaker 1: just weeks filled with looking each other in the eyes,
Speaker 1: telling each other how much we love one another, and
Speaker 1: just enjoying being in the most beautiful place on earth. Honestly,
Speaker 1: do you ever get bored on vacations? Um? Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a really good question actually in these areas, Yes, definitely.
Speaker 1: I do I. Um, obviously, I love photography, so like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of like really good photography locations here. Um,
Speaker 1: but I definitely like Okay, So, like Kalen is walking
Speaker 1: to dinner and she wants to like stop in like
Speaker 1: nine different little boutiques along the way. Yeah, it's everyone right,
Speaker 1: Like I understand it and I appreciate it. And there
Speaker 1: are times when she like slows down but keeps walking
Speaker 1: and I we like walk past it. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: you can go in that store if you want, and
Speaker 1: she's like, oh my gosh, okay, good thank goodness, because
Speaker 1: like I saw something I really wanted. So it's like
Speaker 1: I'm not bored, but I definitely you know, um, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm stoked. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: well like sometimes on our honeymoon, yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: gorgeous and it's beautiful and I love being there, but
Speaker 1: there are times like I remember we watched a couple
Speaker 1: of movies and I was like, should we be watching
Speaker 1: movies while we're in Greece. We watched The Town right,
Speaker 1: and I was like, should we be doing this or
Speaker 1: should we just be like staring at nature? Get at night?
Speaker 1: Bab we never did that during the day. No, I know,
Speaker 1: it's still you make a good point, like you could
Speaker 1: watch the town anywhere in the world and here you
Speaker 1: are in like the most romantic city in the world
Speaker 1: and you're watching the town and you know what tell room.
Speaker 1: But I I disagree. I think that like wherever you are,
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing, um like just do what feels right.
Speaker 1: So like if you felt like watching the town when
Speaker 1: you're in Positano, like just freaking do it. Who care?
Speaker 1: Plus we are we were so off time wise that
Speaker 1: we were like falling asleep at three am. So yeah,
Speaker 1: at one am we could watch a full movie. Now,
Speaker 1: if I try to watch a movie at eight pm,
Speaker 1: I fall asleep by eight thirty. It's so bad. I
Speaker 1: fully agree with that. That makes that makes sense obviously.
Speaker 1: Uh well, we did have some hot topics, but I
Speaker 1: don't know if we're going to really discuss in depth.
Speaker 1: Because it's about celebrities who lost their uginity, why aren't
Speaker 1: we well because I thought when I'm reading about the topic,
Speaker 1: us like, oh, Dean and I can talk about this
Speaker 1: and kind of like talk about our own experiences. But
Speaker 1: I don't know if we want to talk about these
Speaker 1: things together. Yeah, that's what I thought. So we'll just
Speaker 1: talk about there these celebrities. I think we can talk
Speaker 1: to Dean about it. Yeah, I mean mine, that's fine. Well,
Speaker 1: it's all about when stars lost their virginity, and Megan
Speaker 1: Fox and Kim Kardashian, George Cluney, a lot of other
Speaker 1: celebrities got very personal in this interview, which was printed
Speaker 1: on US Weekly. Well they didn't. They didn't get it
Speaker 1: wasn't this, It wasn't a collection of that. Uh. And
Speaker 1: so you know, obviously some celebrities, you know, some people
Speaker 1: they just feel like they want to keep their sexual
Speaker 1: experiences close to their chests. And obviously others have no
Speaker 1: problem kissing and telling. So, for example, Dak Shepherd, who's
Speaker 1: of course the host of the Armchair Expert podcast, he
Speaker 1: revealed back in two thousand nineteen in an episode where
Speaker 1: he had Gwyneth Paltrow on the podcast, that he was
Speaker 1: actually in seventh grade when he had sex. So he
Speaker 1: was twelve, Yes, he was either twelve or thirteen, and
Speaker 1: he says, I lost my virginity intentionally to love my
Speaker 1: way by the psychedelic furs in the basement of my house. Luckily,
Speaker 1: we got right into the action and I did not
Speaker 1: make it to the course, and then I was just
Speaker 1: very confusing. I'm just very distinct. That's like, that's like
Speaker 1: thinking about a child seventh grade, I know, especially having
Speaker 1: a kid. Now, it's like, when do we have to
Speaker 1: have this conversation? God, well, if they fall on our footsteps,
Speaker 1: very fine, Yeah, at least seven. Speaking of Actually, you
Speaker 1: seem to be feeling a lot better just from this
Speaker 1: conversation we've had so far. Yeah, yeah, this week has
Speaker 1: been a turning point. It's been good, Thank god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's awesome. I've only heard, well mostly heard
Speaker 1: through Jared about how difficult it's been for you. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it seems like things are going better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm definite really better. She's definitely better. She threw
Speaker 1: up this morning, but like even just there's no more.
Speaker 1: Well I don't want to say no more, I don't
Speaker 1: want it, but twenty four hour nausea doesn't seem to
Speaker 1: be happening anymore, which is great. Yeah. The throw ups
Speaker 1: are kind of sudden, like it'll be like thirty second
Speaker 1: warning and then it comes out and then I'm kind
Speaker 1: of like okay, okay, that was fun. The nice thing
Speaker 1: is the next time, well, I mean not the next time,
Speaker 1: but we can plan on throwing up again in seventeen years,
Speaker 1: when you're a little boy is potentially losing his virginity,
Speaker 1: You're gonna be throwing up because of a different reason,
Speaker 1: you know, like a little upset maybe like a little
Speaker 1: like emotionally. I don't want to think about that. Could
Speaker 1: you imagine walking in Jared is going to deal with
Speaker 1: all of that, all those conversations, Oh, well, yeah, especially
Speaker 1: especially Yeah, I can relate more and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: this is what that does, and like, I know, it's
Speaker 1: kind of weird and you know, but you'll learn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I I envy you guys in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, but not at the same time.
Speaker 1: I feel like those conversations have to kind of come
Speaker 1: easier for having a boy. Like so I told Jared
Speaker 1: last week, my brother is expecting a baby girl basically
Speaker 1: the same day you guys are expecting your boy, and
Speaker 1: he is going to have a lot I feel like
Speaker 1: having a conversation with the girl about that kind of
Speaker 1: stuff is a little more challenging, especially from our perspective. Jared, Oh,
Speaker 1: I feel like a girl. Just is it's more I
Speaker 1: don't know, protect elgi. Yeah, delicate. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: say delicate because I didn't want to make it sound bad,
Speaker 1: but just like, yeah, there's it. Probably is a stereotype.
Speaker 1: But just like with a guy, it's like, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: be good, be truthful, be honest, but like you know,
Speaker 1: you just like wrap it up. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: feel like a girl. It's way more complex. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: just a little deviation from this. You there was that
Speaker 1: time that your dad had to tell you what was
Speaker 1: going on when you so stupid? Is this Jared's wet
Speaker 1: dream story? It's not a wet dream story? No, No,
Speaker 1: it's well I think I might have talked about this
Speaker 1: on the podcast before. I don't think you have. I
Speaker 1: think you need to tell us all about what it is.
Speaker 1: I was probably in seventh grade and like my like,
Speaker 1: you know, I came home from school and I had
Speaker 1: my own room, and you know, as boys do, and
Speaker 1: when they were in their own room, and just like
Speaker 1: their urge came over me. So I was like it
Speaker 1: was like four o'clock in the afternoon and just you know,
Speaker 1: it was maybe, uh this, I feel like you one
Speaker 1: time I know you woke up and your dad you
Speaker 1: had to like change your sheet with your dad. Know what,
Speaker 1: where did I get this wrong? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't remember that. I remember I thought I the bed,
Speaker 1: but he didn't. I'm sure Dean can relate to that.
Speaker 1: I the first time I ever had a wet dream.
Speaker 1: I woke up and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm peeing the bed. And then I was like, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, that's not pe and then I was worried
Speaker 1: because I didn't know what it was. And then well,
Speaker 1: that's what I thought we were talking about, was your
Speaker 1: first wet dream, because I definitely vividly still remember my
Speaker 1: first web dream. I'm sorry. I never meant for you
Speaker 1: to tell that story about your dad. I didn't even
Speaker 1: know that sheets your dad walked in on you. Hey,
Speaker 1: my dad walked in on me as well one time,
Speaker 1: um doing something pretty bad as well. And the funny
Speaker 1: thing about dad's is they just don't really talk to
Speaker 1: you about it, Like my dad never confronted me about it. Uh.
Speaker 1: It Actually it boiled onto my mom being like a
Speaker 1: week later, being like, hey, were you doing something not
Speaker 1: in your room? And I was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: absolutely not, even though obviously it was. Um, but it's
Speaker 1: funny that, Yeah, so my my wed dream story. I
Speaker 1: still fully vividly remember that. But yeah, there's like a
Speaker 1: lot of traumatic experiences that little boys go through. I
Speaker 1: feel like to enter the gateway until like, you know,
Speaker 1: fully becoming a guy. I guess I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think it's probably obviously worse for girls, just because you
Speaker 1: guys bleed that would like what's happening you have a
Speaker 1: first conversation, that's if you enter. And first off, I
Speaker 1: never got the sextox, so like interpret that as you may, um,
Speaker 1: but I did get the period talk, and I pretended
Speaker 1: to my mom I guess that was ten or eleven
Speaker 1: when she talked to me about it. I pretended like
Speaker 1: I didn't know what what she was saying. Like I
Speaker 1: was like it was news to me, but I had
Speaker 1: heard all about it on the playground before. I just
Speaker 1: didn't want her to know that we were talking about
Speaker 1: that stuff in elementary. Everything gets talked about the playground.
Speaker 1: Very curious about your wet dream, Dean, because the only
Speaker 1: reason I'm curious about is because you say, oh, I
Speaker 1: remember it so vividly, Like do you remember the dream vividly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not a stranger to telling my situation, So I'll
Speaker 1: tell you all about my dream. Um. I was ice skating.
Speaker 1: I was probably around the age of eleven or twelve
Speaker 1: years old, and uh I was the only person on
Speaker 1: the ice. There was a goalie in the goal. Um,
Speaker 1: sure enough, it was a very attractive woman, and uh,
Speaker 1: I like skated up to and again, this is all
Speaker 1: like conjecture or like, you know, I don't know, like
Speaker 1: I ken't assumptions or like or estimations, because like I
Speaker 1: I think I remember it, but I could be just
Speaker 1: like a game of telephone in my own brain. Um,
Speaker 1: I like skated up to score goal, and I scored
Speaker 1: the goal, and she was like super happy for me.
Speaker 1: And I was like, wait, that's weird. You're the goalie,
Speaker 1: Like why would you be happy for me? And then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, she started taking her pads off,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my gosh, this isn't And again,
Speaker 1: mind you, I'm eleven years old at this point. The
Speaker 1: goalie innuendo too and oh yeah, right, I never even
Speaker 1: I never even thought about that until you just said that.
Speaker 1: It's actually very funny. Um, and yeah, she started taking
Speaker 1: her paths off. And I remember just like being like, whoa,
Speaker 1: you're like fully naked from me right now? This is
Speaker 1: pretty cool. And uh it didn't take much. It took
Speaker 1: just like literally like a touch on the shoulder to
Speaker 1: make it happen. And uh that was probably the Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the experience that I had. Um, a touch
Speaker 1: on the shoulder, dude, Okay, but you should have seen
Speaker 1: this goal issue was like, oh, just like because like
Speaker 1: what's her name, the blonde one she like takes off
Speaker 1: the helmet and shakes her hair. Oh yeah, Julie the cat.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Julia the cat, right yeah. And you know,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if I feel super comfortable
Speaker 1: sharing my like first wet dream story publicly. But I
Speaker 1: mean that's the truth, so I can't, like why would
Speaker 1: I feel embarrassed about it. I'll stay too late on
Speaker 1: that one, bro. No. And it's funny because I still,
Speaker 1: like I don't think about it often, but like I
Speaker 1: remember it. It's like definitely ingrained in my brain as
Speaker 1: like it's a core memory, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it's like I definitely remember it vividly. Um, I
Speaker 1: have I like maybe like when I was like fourteen
Speaker 1: or sixteen, like years later, I like wish I could
Speaker 1: replicate it. Um, I think that's kind of like maybe
Speaker 1: like a normal guy thing to want, but like it
Speaker 1: never happened. So it is what it is. But you know, wait, Dean,
Speaker 1: I love how open you are about this. I'm smiling
Speaker 1: from ear to ear. I think it's so entertaining. Well,
Speaker 1: now you just tell us the age that you were
Speaker 1: when you when you lost it my virginity. Yeah. Oh,
Speaker 1: I was probably like fifteen or sixteen. Yeah, I so
Speaker 1: Joanna was actually really funny. Is I remember my first
Speaker 1: wit dream vividly, but I don't remember losing my virginity
Speaker 1: vividly because I was very drunk. Um, do you remember
Speaker 1: who it was with? Oh? Of course it was my
Speaker 1: first girlfriend who I did it for a year and
Speaker 1: a half. That's really what matters most. Yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 1: did it for a long time. She was like she
Speaker 1: was like the first person I ever was in love with,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. But uh, it was it was.
Speaker 1: It was messy because of the fact that she had
Speaker 1: a boyfriend at the time. Uh. And so it's not
Speaker 1: a really good way to like open your eyes to
Speaker 1: the world of sex and relationships, you know, like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I'm essentially the mistress in this relationship. Like, wow,
Speaker 1: what a great way to enter into a sexual enlivened life,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, you were the f
Speaker 1: boy in this scenario. Uh, which is totally cool because
Speaker 1: we actually have two gentlemen from f Boy Island who
Speaker 1: are coming up on the podcast one nice guy, one
Speaker 1: f boy. K see who's the f boy in Fernando
Speaker 1: who's the nice guy? And they're coming up on the
Speaker 1: podcast right after this. Hey, welcome back to Help I
Speaker 1: Sucket Dating, Dean, myself, Ashley all here. Dean is back
Speaker 1: because WiFi is better right now, which is very nice,
Speaker 1: and we also have an email of course, Dean's favorite
Speaker 1: segment truly the only reason he's zooming in from Greece
Speaker 1: because he just wants to your emails. That's dem chanting.
Speaker 1: By the way, after our conversation over the Help I
Speaker 1: Sucket Dating, we just heard like heavy breathing and after
Speaker 1: talking about what we talked about in the first segment,
Speaker 1: I just want to clarify that was Dean chanting Easton.
Speaker 1: Are you there in the world of zoom and if
Speaker 1: you are would you like to read this email? I
Speaker 1: am here in the world of zoom. Thank you for
Speaker 1: the invitation. I'd love to read the email. It's from anonymous.
Speaker 1: So thank you Nick Vayle for listening to the show.
Speaker 1: I just started dating this guy and he checks off
Speaker 1: every single box. But the sex is bad? What do
Speaker 1: I do? Is this a deal breaker? Really detail oriented
Speaker 1: email here? I can't I can't imagine who wrote it. Uh,
Speaker 1: probably a producer, but we'll take it. Uh So the
Speaker 1: sex is bad? Is that a deal breaker? I don't
Speaker 1: think so. I'm gonna go, oh, yeah, I was gonna
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that same thing. I don't think
Speaker 1: it is. I think if everything else is good, that
Speaker 1: would include like communication being good. All that it takes
Speaker 1: to make sex really good is a little bit of communication.
Speaker 1: Bottle of wine, right, A bottle of wine maybe like
Speaker 1: a butt plug and a little bit of a vibration
Speaker 1: and you're off to the racist uh and east And
Speaker 1: I know, I know you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: UM So, yeah, I don't think it's really an issue whatsoever.
Speaker 1: I think it's just a matter of like working. Like
Speaker 1: we've had this conversation in a different aspect in the
Speaker 1: past where it's like, uh, their spark is there, but
Speaker 1: then you had your first kiss and the kiss is bad.
Speaker 1: You can teach someone how to be a good kiss her,
Speaker 1: just like you can teach someone how to satisfy you sexually.
Speaker 1: I think that's really what it goes down to, its communication.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's easier to teach somebody how to
Speaker 1: kiss or or how to you know, have sex. We
Speaker 1: were adults, we could say the word I was gonna
Speaker 1: say that bad kiss? I mean, yeah, why would I
Speaker 1: say that bad word? I hate that word? Why would
Speaker 1: you say that? I have no idea. I said that
Speaker 1: one time and a hate it. I thought she was
Speaker 1: going to throw up all over. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: can't stand that bad word in that. Um, what is it?
Speaker 1: I gotta know what it is? What is it? I
Speaker 1: think F boy island? What do you substitute F for with? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I don't like it as an action. I like it
Speaker 1: as as a verb. I don't like it as a verb.
Speaker 1: I like it as a adjective. I respect that, and
Speaker 1: I am fully onboard with that mindset as well. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I think I think, um, when it comes to this stuff,
Speaker 1: it's weird because it's it's funny because we've kind of
Speaker 1: had this conversation alarity on this podcast episode. But I
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of people are scared to talk
Speaker 1: about what they like, especially when it pertains sex. Right,
Speaker 1: Like I was scared to tell people what I like,
Speaker 1: and I was even more afraid to ask the other
Speaker 1: person what they like. So it's like I am still
Speaker 1: a little tentative when it comes to that arena um.
Speaker 1: And I think that what we need to start doing
Speaker 1: is just like being more open about the things that
Speaker 1: we like, the things we dislike, and asking the partner
Speaker 1: that we have what they like and what they dislike,
Speaker 1: because at the end of day, that's how you learn. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, you you could guess, which is fine, I
Speaker 1: guess for an extent, but you're never going to learn
Speaker 1: as much as you will unless you actually ask them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are afraid to say
Speaker 1: what they like because it is taboo. A lot of
Speaker 1: things they like, specifically S and M. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: no uh, there's no secret as to why fifty Shades
Speaker 1: of Gray is as popular as it is. It's not
Speaker 1: love story as much as people I like to argue
Speaker 1: that it is. It's not. That's the selling point of
Speaker 1: that franchise, is the S and M. Right or wrong?
Speaker 1: I don't agree. But so you're telling me that if
Speaker 1: fifty Shades are grad got rid of all that sex. No, No,
Speaker 1: it would still be as popular as FT sex, but
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be as popular. I don't know. I wouldn't care.
Speaker 1: I'm fine with it either way. I like the fact
Speaker 1: that she's like relatable and innocent and then this really
Speaker 1: hot guy who were successful comes and sweeps her off
Speaker 1: her feet and that's so sweet. But I'll tell you
Speaker 1: the correct answer, which is no, it would not be
Speaker 1: as successful without Jared, and I have arguince we first
Speaker 1: became friends. Um, I'm inclined to take as she sat
Speaker 1: in this. I think if the S and M was
Speaker 1: sebstitutor for something even a little bit more gentle, I
Speaker 1: still think the series would be as popular as it is. People.
Speaker 1: It's based on the Twilight series. It is a fan
Speaker 1: fiction of Twilight, and we all like Twilight without the
Speaker 1: SNP because of the vampire, because I love aspect, because
Speaker 1: there's been in love Jared. It's forbidden, Yeah, but the
Speaker 1: forbidden part of the love and fifty sets great is
Speaker 1: the SNM No, it's it's the fact that he's emotionally
Speaker 1: unavailable and she makes him emotionally available to her, and
Speaker 1: that he wants to strap her up. You read and
Speaker 1: watched all of them like, but that's besides the point.
Speaker 1: It's a cult phenomenon because of those things, because of
Speaker 1: the vampires, because of no nobody really cares about them
Speaker 1: being vampires. I completely disagree with that. There's something like
Speaker 1: very like even I bet it. I bet it's the
Speaker 1: sucking of the throat that people love so much. Man,
Speaker 1: I hate Jared. I hate to say this, Um, and
Speaker 1: you know you're my co host for life, but I
Speaker 1: think Ashley has got you on this one. Thank you. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm out number two to one. Well anonymous, Nick, Yeah,
Speaker 1: email us, Yeah, email us please. Actually that's a great idea.
Speaker 1: Actually that's what I'm so glad you said that. Everybody
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Speaker 1: Why is fifty Shades of Gray so popular and twilight
Speaker 1: to a certain extent, but more specifically fifty shades great
Speaker 1: because that's more of the topic we're trying to cover
Speaker 1: right now, which is do you think it's as popular
Speaker 1: as it is solely based on the love story, like
Speaker 1: Ashley is saying, and Dean solely but it's mainly there's
Speaker 1: a difference. I think it's mainly the S and M. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely not but but but those two are
Speaker 1: like obviously it's also of course it's the love story
Speaker 1: and on the on the Instagram, yeah, we will, but
Speaker 1: I say that it's like S and M compared love story,
Speaker 1: that's very close. Yeah, but it's more. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it's overly, but I definitely think that it's more because
Speaker 1: of the it's it's the taboo of it. It's it's
Speaker 1: like this super hot guy that is emotionally unavailable and
Speaker 1: like is freaky as hell. I think girls like we're
Speaker 1: gonna say, it's like how many times like you hear
Speaker 1: like when I'm watching a show or like girls love
Speaker 1: like being pushed against the wall and it's like that
Speaker 1: ship Like I would constitute that as some sort of
Speaker 1: S and M. Okay. Here's the other thing. That made
Speaker 1: fifty Shades very popular, and it was because it normalized
Speaker 1: being able to read softcore porn in front of people
Speaker 1: that would yeah yeah, but no, but it's just it's
Speaker 1: because it was like, oh, yeah, no, shame, I like porn.
Speaker 1: It's kind of it's kind of like that. Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 1: It's more about the sex. Yeah, but it's like in
Speaker 1: romance novels, do you read it for It's like like
Speaker 1: the combination of it all. No. And it's also because
Speaker 1: there's sex and then there's S and M. And I
Speaker 1: don't think it matters whether it was S and M
Speaker 1: or just regular sex, because I think it would have
Speaker 1: been totally I think it's been just as popular if
Speaker 1: he wasn't there was no Redroom of Pain. I agree.
Speaker 1: I think Ashley has kind of nailed on the head
Speaker 1: in my opinion. Well, I'm outnumbered once again. Here we go, okay,
Speaker 1: but anyway, Yeah, but let us know, let's very fascinating conversations. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and sign us off here. I
Speaker 1: know I wasn't here for a little bit of the
Speaker 1: interview with Casey and some of the interview with um Fernando,
Speaker 1: but I would like to say thank you to both
Speaker 1: of them, Casey and Fernando. Fernando, I swear if we
Speaker 1: see you on F Boy Island season two as the
Speaker 1: f boy, not the f boy, but the nice guy
Speaker 1: dating you know, potential f girls or nice girls, I
Speaker 1: would be very, very happy. So hopefully that happens. Casey, Uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm as excited about that for you,
Speaker 1: but who knows. Um, Ashley, thank you for stepping in
Speaker 1: for me for majority of the episode. I apologize for
Speaker 1: my WiFi connection. Don't. Well, you're in Greece. You know
Speaker 1: it's understandable. Well, I know, but I still feel like
Speaker 1: I should have this figured out. I thought for sure
Speaker 1: that the WiFi would be good enough. Um obviously learn
Speaker 1: that it wasn't, but we made it work for the
Speaker 1: most part. I'm I'm happy being part of eighty percent
Speaker 1: of the podcast and only give me eighty percent of
Speaker 1: the paycheck at the end of the day. That's all
Speaker 1: I need, Um, or give me zero percent. I actually
Speaker 1: don't even need a paycheck. I just like, I like
Speaker 1: just hanging out with you guys. Yeah, big thank you
Speaker 1: to Easton, Riley, Hannah, and everyone else that works on
Speaker 1: our podcast. Every week. But most of all, thank you
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