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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Wait were with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia

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Speaker 1: and Derek Eagleton. It is Monday, November thirteenth, two thou seventeen,

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Speaker 1: season thirteen, episode number seventy four. Welcome to another edition

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Speaker 1: of The Break. I am Derek Eagleton, and then we

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Speaker 1: are alive from the s WBC Mortgage Studios and we're

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Speaker 1: talking about the Cowboys lost yesterday. Cowboys have a it's

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Speaker 1: their second really really bad loss of the season where

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Speaker 1: they just got dominated. I can't I don't think it

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Speaker 1: was a domination from start to finish, but certainly by

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Speaker 1: felt like it became a dominating performance by the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into all the different things that went right

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Speaker 1: and wrong for them, but Cowboys lose twenty seven seven,

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Speaker 1: and I think we have to at least start the

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Speaker 1: conversation with Adrian Claiborne, who had what I guess if

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Speaker 1: he makes the Pro Bowl, this will be the day

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Speaker 1: that he actually made the Pro Bowl. He now has

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Speaker 1: eight sacks on the season, wins his game with two,

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Speaker 1: and yesterday get six sacks, which is one from the

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Speaker 1: record in a game, which is seven held by Derrek Thomas.

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Speaker 1: Only been four men in the history of the NFL

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Speaker 1: in a game. I guess let's start there. Tell me

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Speaker 1: to get and we're not talking about a premier pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: One guy was able to get six sacks in one game. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean it starts with Tyrn Smith being out and

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Speaker 1: I mean clearly, and Chaz Green wasn't ready for the

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Speaker 1: one of the worst performances you've ever seen at a

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Speaker 1: one player before. And he had a lot of chances.

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Speaker 1: He had all week. He knew this was happening, and

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Speaker 1: of the fourth quarter. I mean, it was bad in

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Speaker 1: probably heard at some point, yeah you might, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: when the game was over. You kept bringing up the

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Speaker 1: then he was like, well, I don't want to say surprised,

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Speaker 1: so I'm not football X is no guru. But if

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Speaker 1: Who's Adrian Clayborne? I mean there's Drop Lan, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think Ray Evers is a decent

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Speaker 1: pass run runny. This guy's had six sacks in a

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Speaker 1: season once. Yeah, so he had, So he's got that now.

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Speaker 1: But like Jeremy Mincy having a six sack game, that's

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Speaker 1: enough and they protected Dak well enough that he was

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Speaker 1: able to hit balls down the field to Bryce Butler.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't see that yesterday. I mean one hundred

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Speaker 1: and seven yards and four yards per carry, four point

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Speaker 1: eight yards from your running back. I mean for most

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Speaker 1: NFL teams, that's a really good day. It's crap for

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Speaker 1: this team based on what we've seen from them. But

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Speaker 1: I would contend that on the road, that's a good

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Speaker 1: enough running performance to help you win the game if

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Speaker 1: you can have some semblance of a passing Okay, so

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Speaker 1: you're right about all this about moving the ball, because

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Speaker 1: I just looked this up. They got to the Atlanta

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Speaker 1: thirty seven. This is this is six different drives. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they got all the way to the Atlanta thirty seven,

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Speaker 1: another one to the Atlanta thirty seven, Atlanta thirty nine,

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Speaker 1: Atlanta twenty, Atlanta twenty, and then midfield. That's six drives

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Speaker 1: right there. They didn't score a single point out all

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Speaker 1: of those. And if you look at every single one

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Speaker 1: of them, there's either a sack or a penalty on

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Speaker 1: the off from the offensive line that they just stralled

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Speaker 1: that drive. If those six drives, if you can get

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Speaker 1: four just say four field goals, there's twenty seven seven.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I know that's nice. That's a

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Speaker 1: one score game, just and that's just four field goals

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Speaker 1: at a six when you would like to think you'd

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Speaker 1: get six. One of them is the field goal kicker

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Speaker 1: that missed it. Yeah, and that's what I said. Somebody

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Speaker 1: was somebody said, what do you think happens if Tyrant

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Speaker 1: plays in this game? And I mean, you can't say

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Speaker 1: that the outcome is different because they lost by twenty points.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that one player's worth twenty points,

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Speaker 1: but I certainly think the offense would have resembled something

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Speaker 1: involving competent, which it was not on any level yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because Clayborne doesn't take over the game if Tyrann's in there.

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Speaker 1: So that's the difference, right, Yeah, and Okay again, maybe

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Speaker 1: they get two or three sacks. That's a normal number

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. That's manageable. Eight eight, that's a problem.

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Speaker 1: You don't give up eight sacks in the NFL. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's take our first break. When we come back. I

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Speaker 1: think we got to talk about the other part of

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Speaker 1: this game that really got away from the Cowboys and

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Speaker 1: it's really more about the defense and the player that

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Speaker 1: Sean like, what does that? When we come right back,

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Speaker 1: Back to the Break Welcome back. It is the second

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Speaker 1: segment of The Break live from the s WBC Mortgage

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Speaker 1: studios at the Star. We're talking about the Cowboys loss.

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Speaker 1: They lose twenty seven to seven in Atlanta, a game

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Speaker 1: that going into it, I think most of us agreed

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Speaker 1: was a very important game just because of the way

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Speaker 1: you look at the standings. We'll get into more of

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Speaker 1: that tomorrow. But do you have something to say, Day, Well,

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Speaker 1: I meant to do this at the top of the show,

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Speaker 1: but you didn't really you just kind of jumped right

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Speaker 1: into it. But I wanted if you want me to.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to offer my resignation as a break analyst

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Speaker 1: because these two weeks have really been rough for me.

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Speaker 1: If you listen to the show, Yeah, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think I could have been more wrong about how they'd

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Speaker 1: play against Kansas City, and then they turn right background

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Speaker 1: and just shove that right in my face against Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: So like, if you want me off the show is

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Speaker 1: clearly my opinions and analysis aren't worth very much. The

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Speaker 1: crazy part is on the sideline. You and I were

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Speaker 1: talking after the game, and I was like, as pessimistic

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Speaker 1: as you typically are this game, you gave them a

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Speaker 1: lot of benefit of doubt going in, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: they will never get that from you ever getting picked again. No,

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Speaker 1: it's like, if there's even a shred of reason to

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Speaker 1: go the opposite way, you're going like, oh no, they're

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Speaker 1: they're losing this game. I'll pick them. I'll pick them

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Speaker 1: again in this season, I have no doubt. But not

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Speaker 1: this season, not a game. If seventy seven and fifty

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Speaker 1: aren't in the game, forget about it, especially this week.

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Butcher Cox, Timmy Jernigan, Nnie Curry,

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Speaker 1: whoever the hell else they got out there. Nah, nah,

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Speaker 1: man looking pretty scary if especially if Tyren's not playing.

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Speaker 1: If Tyren's playing, then feel a little bit better. But man,

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Speaker 1: if Tyron's playing, I feel a lot better. That's what

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Speaker 1: I learned yesterday. That's like which, Okay, the running game

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Speaker 1: wasn't great, obviously. I know that this team misses Zeke,

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Speaker 1: but Tyren Smith's the best player on this team. I

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Speaker 1: can I said that back in training camp. Nick hold

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Speaker 1: that thought. Okay, because we're gonna actually get to that

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Speaker 1: into a little bit, I do want to ask that

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Speaker 1: question when we get a little bit farther the Nick,

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Speaker 1: did you ask something you are about to say? No, well,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna are you are you on the plane?

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Speaker 1: You said something about that question. Good question. We are

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Speaker 1: going to get to that question. Before we do that, though,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the defense and the absence

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Speaker 1: of Sean Lee because I think you know, as you

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Speaker 1: talk about what happened on the offense, I think you

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Speaker 1: had a similar thing on the defense. Sean Lee started

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Speaker 1: the game, and I think in those first few series,

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Speaker 1: and really in the first half, the defense played a

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Speaker 1: really good game. When I went back to watch it,

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Speaker 1: I hadn't realized how how long they really held this

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Speaker 1: game together. For pretty much most of the first half,

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Speaker 1: they held that Atlanta offense, and then in the second

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Speaker 1: half the Wills fell off. And I think it was

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Speaker 1: a lot. It had a lot to do, if not

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Speaker 1: all to do with the loss of Sean Lee, because

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's just it's just too much

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Speaker 1: for them to overcome. Let's not forget that Atlanta lost

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Speaker 1: their running back on the second play the game. Anthony

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Speaker 1: Hitchens really get a really nice hit on on Freeman

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Speaker 1: and knocked him out of the game. And and then

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Speaker 1: you know Atlanta as they have a good, you know,

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Speaker 1: one two punch there. But Tevin Coleman really isn't like

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Speaker 1: a elite premier back by himself, and but you know,

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Speaker 1: he did a nice job in the game having to

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Speaker 1: having to take over. But you thought that that was

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Speaker 1: going to be something that would maybe benefit the Cowboys,

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00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,719
Speaker 1: but it didn't really didn't materialize like that because they

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Speaker 1: could run the ball enough just to set up manageable

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Speaker 1: third downs. They had some third and six, third and nine,

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Speaker 1: and Matt Ryan did did a good job there. I

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Speaker 1: thought the pass rush wasn't that great. You know, they

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Speaker 1: really didn't get after Matt Ryan that well. I mean

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Speaker 1: from what we've seen. I mean, they did an okay job,

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Speaker 1: but got a sack there from Lawrence who's the second

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Speaker 1: in the league now behind Claiborn, or is he first.

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Speaker 1: He's first in the league, but Claiborne's probably seventh. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like he's in the top ten in the league now.

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Speaker 1: I will say this, Nick, I didn't think. I did

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Speaker 1: think they harassed him pretty good again in the first half.

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Speaker 1: I think in the second half it kind of got

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Speaker 1: away from him, But in the first half it seemed

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Speaker 1: like they were they were going out, they were getting

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Speaker 1: after him pretty good, and he was taking a lot

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Speaker 1: of hits in the first half. I actually asked. I

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Speaker 1: talked to Anthony Hitchins about this after the game and

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Speaker 1: on I mean, Okay, the stats aren't great. They lost

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Speaker 1: by twenty points. I was like, they didn't gash y'all

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Speaker 1: the way that like the Rams and the Packers did.

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Speaker 1: Like it didn't it didn't just look awful, you know,

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Speaker 1: um you know, I mean they averaged three point nine

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Speaker 1: yards per carry as a team for the game, and

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Speaker 1: like it wasn't horrific, It wasn't good, and you know,

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Speaker 1: he brought up third down, which I think that's really fair.

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Speaker 1: What was Atlanta's. Atlanta was seven of thirteen on third down,

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Speaker 1: and it seemed the one that really stands out to

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Speaker 1: me was the touchdown to Hardy, which I think put

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Speaker 1: him up seventeen seven. It was like it was that

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Speaker 1: classic Marinelli drive where like they had two third downs

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Speaker 1: down there where it was like, all right, hold him

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Speaker 1: to a field goal. Here, it's still one possession game.

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Speaker 1: This is fine. And not only did Anthony Brown get shook,

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Speaker 1: but it just felt like Ryan had all day where

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the pass rush has been so good,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't there in those situations. It was not there

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Speaker 1: when it had to be on these third downs. And

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Speaker 1: like Nick said, it was a slow death. But you

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Speaker 1: go down seventeen seven the way, the way that there

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Speaker 1: they were getting after Dak, you just that felt like

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Speaker 1: I remember telling you that it was about ten ten

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Speaker 1: fifty to go in the third. I was like, this

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Speaker 1: is a game right here. You go down thirteen seven,

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Speaker 1: the hey, that's a good win for the defense. But

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Speaker 1: if you go down seventeen seven the way that they

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Speaker 1: can't move it, and it didn't look good. Thirteen carries

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Speaker 1: for forty one yards in the first half, twenty one

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Speaker 1: carries for ninety one yards after half, which it like,

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Speaker 1: that's it's not awful, but you I mean, it's a

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Speaker 1: yard worth of difference basically per play ye one time.

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Speaker 1: Can we just defer? I mean, I know it didn't

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Speaker 1: they didn't win the toss. They didn't win. It wouldn't

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00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have mattered. But the Cowboys get the ball

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00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: first every time because they take it. They take the ball,

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00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: and then other teams, everyone else in the league, everyone

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Speaker 1: else in the league defers. Why do you not defer,

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Speaker 1: especially on the road. We've talked about this a thousand times.

641
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Speaker 1: You go there and everybody goes to get something to

642
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: eat because they still think halftimes thirty minutes like it

643
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: is in high school, and it's only thirteen and no

644
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: one's back in their seat, and you can take the

645
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: ball and it's the really no crowd and you can

646
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: just move the ball instead they and it's always nice

647
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: to know who's getting the ball. You always kind of

648
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: feel like if you got the lead, you can pad it.

649
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: If you're down, you can get back in the game

650
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: and hopefully get a back to back like it happened

651
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. For the teams you're playing, you

652
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: understand that. I really don't understand why they don't do that.

653
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: I don't argue. I didn't argue with it last year

654
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: when it seemed like they were getting points. But it's

655
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: okay to change your philosophy based on what you're doing.

656
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: And they haven't had they haven't had success doing it.

657
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: I mean, when was the last time they went down

658
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: and got points right away? It's it's certainly maybe once

659
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: this year, maybe one of those games. It has not

660
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: been as automatic as it was last year. Whether you

661
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: want to land the offensive line or whatever. This offense

662
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: has been good, but it isn't on the level that

663
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: it was last year. And it's okay to change your

664
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: philosophy based on what you have. Okay, blue pants every day? Yeah? No,

665
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: I mean, and you know, I kind of I think

666
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: of it as the saint, like why isn't why aren't

667
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: you doing anything to help chats. It's like, well, this

668
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: is this is what we prepared for this. We want

669
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: him to work his way out of it. Yeah, and

670
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: it's not always a great idea. Ye, all right, So

671
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: here's the million dollar question, and I'll start with Amber

672
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: on this. Here's the question I ask you guys on

673
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: the plane last night, so you've had some time to

674
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: think about it. Which player did the Cowboys miss most

675
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: yesterday in the game. Yeah, Zeke Elliott, Tyren Smith, Sean Lee.

676
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: And I'll throw in Dan Bailey because his replacement didn't

677
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: necessarily inspire a lot of confidence either. And so I'll

678
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: throw that out to you guys. Amber, Let's start with you.

679
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: I think that it's pretty evident that it was Tyren

680
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: Smith who was missed the most. Here's something I don't

681
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: really understand. And I love Shun Lee. He's one of

682
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: my favorite players, and I just don't understand how one

683
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: guy can really change the whole defense, such the whole group.

684
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: You know, I understand for the tackle position, I feel

685
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: like that's completely different. I feel like now I comprehend

686
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: why one man on the offensive line can really mess

687
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: things up. But I still can get through the whole

688
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: idea of just Shanlee being now how it affects everyone

689
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: else that much. It's pretty remarkable, isn't it. And yeah,

690
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: you wouldn't think from that, and he's not even the

691
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: middle linebacker. And I would. I mean, I've said this

692
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: on the show before, like in the way the way

693
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: the NFL structured right now, linebacker I think is the

694
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: least important position group on defense. Just you know, it's

695
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,479
Speaker 1: a past happy league, blah blah blah blah blah. But

696
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: my answer to your question would be, he's the one

697
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: guy on this defense. His instincts are off the charts.

698
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: He nine out of ten times knows where the ball

699
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: is going to be before it gets there. And he's

700
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 1: got the talent to act on those instincts, you know.

701
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: I mean, Jalen Smith might have the instincts, but he

702
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: can't make the play and the amount of times the

703
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: instincts a little bit too well this game. But go ahead, Yeah,

704
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchins might have. Anthony Hitchins is a smart dude.

705
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 1: He played great yesterday. I feel bad for him that

706
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: he put that game out there on a day when

707
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: Sean couldn't play, and it's for nothing because he was great.

708
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: But he doesn't have Shaun Lee's level of talent to

709
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: where he's in the backfield breaking that up and all

710
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: of a sudden, a play, a play that could have

711
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: been or a play that went for five yards could

712
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: have gone for two or maybe even a loss because

713
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: Sean Lee saw that, and like we're talking about with

714
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, it changes a whole drive all of a sudden.

715
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: It's second and eleven instead of second and four. And honestly,

716
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: they'll never admit this, but I think it's a confidence

717
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: thing too. When he's not out there. I think it

718
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: affects a lot of guys on that is that also

719
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: because of the guy that's out there in his place,

720
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,959
Speaker 1: because I think that's the part you have to think

721
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: about it. With all these positions, you got to think

722
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: about the delta, the delta from the guy that's out

723
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: to the guy that's backing him up. And I think

724
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: there's a significant between those two players. I think you know,

725
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: one thing you're forgetting too, or we all tend to

726
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: forget because we don't really see it all the time,

727
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: is you know, he's the quarterback. He's the quarterback of

728
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: the defense. So it is third and six, and it's

729
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: a play that that he's seen on film, because I

730
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: guarantee watch the film more than anybody out there. So

731
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: it's third and six. He makes the call, We're gonna

732
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: do whatever the call is. Hey, you know Anthony Brown,

733
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: you know, watching yet inside leverage here. Don't forget they

734
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: love to do the you know, the draw here, you know,

735
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: watch the swing and irving. You know, make sure and

736
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: get on the outside on this contained. I mean, just

737
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: really quick quick things because he's seen it on film

738
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: and you're just missing that one more thing to just say, hey,

739
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: watch the slant here, watch the slant because I've seen,

740
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: you know, and it's here's the slant and all of

741
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: it takes. It's just one inch inside and then the

742
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: slant's out there and then the sacks there. Just because

743
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: Sean Lee was watching film, I don't know why the

744
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: other guys don't stay behind with him. I remember being

745
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: a Valley ranch. I would see Shan Lee staying super

746
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: late just working out. I know here he stays past

747
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: everyone else, just watching film with some of the coaching staff.

748
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: And it's unbelievable. I mean, if you're such, I mean,

749
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: being a leader of a group, I would imagine with

750
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: other guys. Example, let's say Jalen Smith, who is wanting

751
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: to keep improving and get better at things. Why wouldn't

752
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: you want to just kind of join in and tag

753
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 1: you lawng and keep, you know, studying. I personally wouldn't

754
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: want to say that. He doesn't like, we don't know,

755
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: we don't no, no no, no, no, how much so I

756
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: don't want to I certainly don't. Yeah, I certainly don't

757
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: want to say that. But I'm saying as a group

758
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: because I know what I've seen before, and I know

759
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: the things I've heard from people that work over on

760
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: that side. I'm saying working or studying as a group together,

761
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: you know. Again, Yeah, they could be spending hours an

762
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: hour studying, I don't know, But as a group, that's

763
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: a different thing. I think there's merit to everything y'all

764
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: are saying. But at the end of the day, on

765
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: I mean, all that's true, Sean Lee's a freak and

766
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: then film room, everybody knows that, but like he's got

767
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: all pro, first team, all pro talent to make those

768
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: plays and more often than not he does. Like how

769
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: many tackles did Hitch have yesterday? Hitch had ten? That's

770
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: like route, that's a routine day for Shawn Lee. That's

771
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: like ho hum, you know, Like a great day for

772
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: Shaun Lee is when you're getting close to twenty or

773
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: setting the franchise record ten is just like, oh yeah,

774
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: Shawn Lee had a day, Like he's really really good.

775
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: So combine all of that, but really I think it

776
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: boils down to he helps him make those plays when

777
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: they got to have him. I mean going back a year,

778
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: but the I mean the play he made against Philadelphia

779
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: in that first game here, and I mean one then

780
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: the game, like he does stuff like that on a

781
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: weekly basis. He turns a potential seventy yard game by

782
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt into a three yard loss, and you don't

783
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: have that when he's not out there. Yep, did you

784
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: give it your your answer? I mean I said this

785
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: on the on the plane. I don't even think it's

786
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the obvious answer is Tyren Smith.

787
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: I just don't understand how anywhere close. But you're right.

788
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: They were all missed. I mean Zeke was missed, Sean

789
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: Lee was missed, Dan Bailey was missed. They were all missed.

790
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: And that's why, you know, that's why they got their

791
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: ass kicks. I mean, you can lose a player or

792
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: two and get beat and I'm okay with that because

793
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: I you know, this is a tough league to win,

794
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: and the reigning NFC champs and the reigning NFL m VP,

795
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: and they're trying to figure themselves out. I expected them

796
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: to lose the game, but they got their ass kicked

797
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: because they didn't respond. And and you know, Jason Garrett says,

798
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: if you said it once, he said it a billion times,

799
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: be your best, regardless of circumstance. Circumstance, and they were

800
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: their worst. They were their worst, and so you got

801
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: to put that on the coaches. If the coaches are

802
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: gonna say that you're supposed to be your best regardless

803
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: of this, and they came out and played like that,

804
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: then you know that's on them. That's on them. So

805
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: they got things that happened during the week affected them losing,

806
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: but things that happened in the middle of the game

807
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: Sunday affected them getting their ass kicked. I'll make the case,

808
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: and I know it sounds like most of you guys

809
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: are the on the same page, with Tyren Smith being

810
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: the person that was missed the most. But I think

811
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: the case can be made for Shaan Lee. And the

812
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: reason why I think the case can be made is

813
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: because I don't think they were They would have even

814
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: been in a situation yesterday where Clayborne gets six sacks

815
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: if the defense could have been what I think they

816
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: would have been with Sean Lee. The beginning of that game,

817
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 1: that defense was playing really stellar football and like I said,

818
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: for the first half, played really great football. In the

819
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: second half, the Wills fell off, and I think a

820
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: lot of that had to do with Sean Lee not

821
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: being on the field. And when you look at when

822
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: you go back and watch it, Jalen Smith had as

823
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: bad a day yesterday as anybody you can point to.

824
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 1: There were a number of times where he just couldn't

825
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: get to the ball. That was one time he actually

826
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 1: he diagnosed to play properly, He got off the block

827
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: as he should, he just didn't have that burst to

828
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: be able to close and finish. And that's the thing

829
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: about Jalen at this point is Jalen just doesn't have

830
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: He doesn't have It's not all the way there yet,

831
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: It's not all the way there, and that's what they're seeing.

832
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: And so when you when you combine and you compare

833
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: that to what you were saying before, not just that ability,

834
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: but the ability to understand, diagnose and tell everybody else

835
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: here's what we should be paying attention to. And then

836
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: the talent as Dave said, to be able to actually

837
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: finish the play. That's a big, big difference. I don't

838
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: think this game it would have gotten away from the

839
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: Cowboys yesterday if Sean Lee were on the field, maybe

840
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: they don't win, but I think it would have been

841
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: a competitive game all the way to the end. I

842
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: think they would have been in position to make a

843
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: play or two there on offense, and maybe they win

844
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: the game that way. I just don't think that it

845
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: would have gotten to that point without if Sean Lee

846
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: were there, There's no doubt. I mean, there's no doubt

847
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: the defense would have been better with Sean Lee. But

848
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: I'd say it all the time, and I'll say it again, like,

849
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: you're only as good as this offense is going to be.

850
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: So he just scored points. You need anything. Just the

851
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: offense is the strength of this team, and I honestly

852
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: know the defense didn't play great. I think I think

853
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: they could have won. I think they could have scored

854
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: more than twenty seven. But if Tyrn was in there,

855
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: I know the Falcons hadn't given up. They haven't given

856
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 1: up twenty seven points all year. Yeah, that's totally fair,

857
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: But give me a guy who can keep dak on

858
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Speaker 1: his feet for more than half a second. I'll take

859
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: my chances. I mean, you're exactly right about Sean Lee.

860
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: But if seven Coleman would have gone for two hundred

861
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: and fifty yards or you know, flirted with Adrian Peter,

862
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: I think it's Ladrian Peterson's record. Um, then it's like, well, god,

863
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 1: you know how much was he missed? But I mean

864
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Speaker 1: Adrian Claiborne had six sacks, five against Chaz Green or no,

865
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: just six against that position who regardless of what it was.

866
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: I mean, and I asked you this, does Adrian Claiborne

867
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: get one sack against Tyron one? I don't think he does.

868
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: If Ron was jacked up Tyron or like Tyron Frank

869
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: and Tyrone just trying to get through this, and maybe

870
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: he gets one or two. If if Tyron just they

871
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: somehow they got tying to get out there. He wasn't

872
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. He was just trying to get out

873
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: there and give him what he had. He probably gets

874
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: one or two. He doesn't have a day like that. Okay,

875
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: Well against the Eagles, somebody comes up to you and says, hey,

876
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: one of those guys is gonna be out. One of

877
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 1: them is gonna play in your heart? Which between tyn

878
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: one of them's in, one of them's out. Tell me

879
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: three two one? Which one would you rather have for

880
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: the Eagles? Tyrant, I'd rather have If they don't have,

881
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: both ll lose. How about that? Okay? But which one

882
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: for the Eagles? Tyrant? Okay? But not for the Yeah,

883
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: I think for the Eagles because the Eagles offense is

884
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: so much better and their defense is really good too.

885
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: So for me, the way I look at it is

886
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna need to score a ton of points in

887
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: order to beat them. I don't think you needed to

888
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: score a ton of points to Atlanta. I think the

889
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: defense is good enough they could because I've seen teams

890
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: this year hold at Atlanta offense to scoring not as

891
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: many points, So I'm not I feel a little better

892
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: about the defense being able to win that game for

893
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: you yesterday if they were at full strength without Tyron Smith,

894
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: I don't feel great about that. Against Philadelphia, you gotta

895
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: score points against them. I think Philadelphia's offense has been

896
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: awesome all year, and they have one of the best

897
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: front sevens. You know. I mean, I'm telling you right now,

898
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: they will not win this game. If both of those

899
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: guys aren't on the field, that would be stunning based

900
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: on what we've seen this season. And I mean I'm

901
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 1: not just talking about yesterday. You saw what happens without

902
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: tiring yesterday, but we've seen what happens without Lee too,

903
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: right for a whole game. I mean Saint Louis, I

904
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905
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906
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907
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Speaker 1: That's just that's very disheartening to think, all right, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna take our final break. We come back. I want

909
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Speaker 1: to the Break, Welcome Back. It is the final segment

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Speaker 1: did they missed Dan Bailey a little bit yesterday? They did?

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Speaker 1: What was it in groin? Did they miss Tyren Smith

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Speaker 1: A lottle bit, a lot of bits injury? He had

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Speaker 1: a groin? You know what? We found out that a

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972
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: able to play on Sunday? Yes? Yes, that true, Yes,

973
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: yes facto during the game or just this week during practice?

974
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: Look it up. I think Jason Jason Garrett already ruled

975
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: Dan out for the Eagles this morning on the fan.

976
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: So not that I don't think anybody really thought he

977
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: was gonna be ready, but just in case you did. Sorry,

978
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: that's kind of just a just a just a happy Monday.

979
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: He did. He did he travel to Washington. Uh no,

980
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: but yeah, he was on the plane. He was at

981
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: this game, which I thought was weird too. I was like,

982
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: why are you here if we know you're not gonna play, right,

983
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: which you know, I think a little bit of that

984
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: is player discretion, like if you feel like you're if

985
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 1: you feel fine to make the trip and you want

986
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: to do it, you can part of the team. Yeah. Yeah,

987
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: So but I would walk, I would stay home and

988
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: be like, I'm chilling, I can't play. So more players

989
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: that do that, the Kellen Moore's that are there on

990
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 1: the practice squad, the more you guys are just sitting

991
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: there typing like this true. Yeah, I'm like, Dan, stay home,

992
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: give me a next give me some space. Got to

993
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 1: try to write three stories on this plane right here. Perspective.

994
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's gotta I'm sure I'm just weird sitting

995
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: at watching it. Yeah. Yeah, you know, like all those

996
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: everybody that's associated with the team looks for a reason

997
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: to be on the sideline, like that's where you want,

998
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: you want to be in the crap, you know, like

999
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 1: you know you're not trying to watch it from afar.

1000
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: You want to be up in there. Yeah, all right,

1001
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: let's get a phone call. We got a call from

1002
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: Rob in Vegas. Rob. What up? Hey? Everybody? Hey, what's

1003
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 1: you know? As a fan, I'm just tired of being

1004
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: held hostage year in and year out by Jason Garrett

1005
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: and Sean Lee. When I when I look at Jason Garrett,

1006
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: I said to myself, all right, what does he What

1007
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: does he bring as a head coach? I mean, he's

1008
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: not a play caller anymore. He's definitely not a disciplinarian,

1009
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: bad clock management manager, and he's never had back to

1010
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: back winning seasons. So I say, okay, he really doesn't

1011
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: give me an extra edge in the game. And then

1012
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 1: I look at Sean Lee, and you know, Shan Lee's

1013
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 1: that hot girl that you just hope would stop cheating

1014
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: on you. I mean, he's you know, he's great when

1015
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 1: he's on the field, but you know he's not gonna

1016
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: play sixteen games, so it's like year in and year out.

1017
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: When he gets hurt, it's over. That's why I thought

1018
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: they should have picked up Bowman from the forty nine.

1019
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 1: Is not because Bowman is great, but he's better than

1020
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, especially against the run. Where where week at,

1021
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: especially when Shanlee leaves the field, because you know he's

1022
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: gonna get So it's just like year in and year out.

1023
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 1: As fans, we watched this and we've seen this story before,

1024
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: all right, the Z thing. We've never had that. And

1025
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: unfortunately Tyrod Smith is starting to get a little bit

1026
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: like Sean Lee. You're starting to see the injuries pile

1027
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: up and now hopefully he doesn't hold this hostage because

1028
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: you see what's behind him. But that's just the frustrating pot.

1029
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: I just I look at this team and we have

1030
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: no edge in coaching. You saw no adjustments. Yesterday it

1031
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: was like we all seen it. Chad Green was getting

1032
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 1: killed and it was like, you know, let him think

1033
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: a swim? Did you pay? And hey, Rob, did you

1034
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: not get in last week? I know you were probably

1035
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: calling did you not get in? And say, oh this

1036
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: last week, No, I didn't get in lest okay, because

1037
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: you would have said the exact same thing. I'm just

1038
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: just making sure you would have said that. I'm not

1039
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: I've never been a Jason Garrett fan. I don't think

1040
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: for a for a team that's talented, I think you

1041
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 1: need to have a coach that gives you an edge.

1042
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: I can look at Belichick and I know what he does,

1043
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: and I can I can look at Andy Reid and

1044
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: know what he's good at. Why are they talented? Then?

1045
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: How are they so talented? Belichick's are great. He knows

1046
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: how to evaluate talents. He's a great defensive coach. You

1047
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 1: see him, He's always who else? Who else? Other than Reid?

1048
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: Andy Reid is a great giant value, he said. Ok

1049
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: he's outstanding. He got his ass kick last week by

1050
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett. Okay, but overall, who's a better coach? Andy

1051
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: Reads a much better coach. Yep, shiny left hand, you know.

1052
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the guy in the rams. I mean,

1053
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: this kid, all of a sudden comes in for thirty

1054
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: four years. He's a great play called his name? Thank you.

1055
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 1: I mean, what if you could tell me what Jason

1056
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: Garrett's good at, maybe he could change my mind. I'm

1057
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: just what what what I'm just saying. I'm just saying

1058
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: you want to call in on Monday morning and be

1059
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: upset by this stuff because of what happened in the game.

1060
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 1: But yeah, well then call you call last week, call

1061
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: last week, call Monday. I think the first time I

1062
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: talked about Jason grit it's definitely alights time. Thanks for

1063
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: the call. And I will say this, there was there

1064
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: are there are fans who have made those kind of

1065
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: claims against Jason Garrett for years, and so I think

1066
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: it's a fair question anytime a team loses. And you

1067
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 1: even said, you even said Nick that you thought that

1068
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: yesterday this coach didn't do it. These coaches didn't do

1069
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: enough in order to in order to get this team

1070
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: in better position to be able to make run that game.

1071
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: But I'm not letting go of the coaching staff right

1072
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: the continuity that you have there. Yeah, there's not a

1073
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: team in the league that can that can probably withstand

1074
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: those four players, those four guys, and and lose and

1075
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: how much they are they're important to their team. There's

1076
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no way I say it. I don't

1077
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: think Jason Garrett is a great, great game day coach.

1078
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's a good game day coach

1079
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: most of the time in my opinion, in terms of adjustments,

1080
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 1: in terms of creativeness, play calling, all that type of stuff.

1081
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: I certain, I mean, does he get no credit for

1082
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: what this team is built, Like right now, does he

1083
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: get no credit for the fact that they win thirteen

1084
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: and three and right now they have a winning record? Again,

1085
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: criticize him all you want, but I don't know what's

1086
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: the end game. It's the same thing as Chad Green,

1087
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: Like you want to fire him after he lost a

1088
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: game that dropped him to five and four right in

1089
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: the middle of the playoff hunt, Like what is it's

1090
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: just venting to me? Like it's just it's just noise,

1091
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 1: Like you're pissed off and rightfully so, honestly, And one

1092
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: thing I will say, I say this all the time.

1093
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: One thing I give Jason Garrett all the credit in

1094
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: the world for is that his guys play hard and

1095
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: buy into his message and they typically don't get their

1096
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: asses kicked like the way they did yesterday. Like that

1097
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: doesn't happen to them very often. The fact that it's

1098
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 1: happened twice in this season is pretty surprising, because even

1099
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: even in the twenty fifteen season when everything was miserable,

1100
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: they were playing to the whistle far more often than

1101
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: they weren't. So there's plenty to criticize for having said that.

1102
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 1: I Like, I'm what's your record? Yeah, what's your recourse.

1103
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: What do you want to do? Jason Garrett's an old

1104
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: school guy. I think he's a little stubborn. I think

1105
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 1: he's a little conservative. I think that describes seventy five

1106
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: percent of the coaches in the NFL, the two guys

1107
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 1: that Rob just mentioned. Belichick is arguably the greatest coach ever.

1108
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: So I mean, what do you what do you want

1109
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: me to do with that? Yeah, Sean McVay is having

1110
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: a great year. Again, I don't know what you want

1111
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 1: me to do with that. He's in a perfect situation

1112
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: where he's in his first year in the league. They

1113
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: brought him in for all of the reasons that he

1114
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: just said. He's a young guy, it's a fresh approach. Honestly,

1115
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 1: I hope more NFL teams try that. I would much

1116
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 1: rather hire a fun, innovative, thirty one year old than

1117
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: a retread guy who's you know, Jeff Fisher, who's failed elsewhere.

1118
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 1: I hope that as a trend that continues in the NFL.

1119
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: I don't know how it helps the Cowboys right now.

1120
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: You know, made if you ever get to a point

1121
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: where you're hiring a new head coach, event I mean eventually,

1122
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: they will hopefully you think outside the box when you

1123
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: do it. But nothing that's happened up to November thirteenth,

1124
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: seventeen dictates that Jason Garrett needs to get a new job.

1125
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: Seven years ago, Sean McVeigh was Jason Garrett. That's exactly

1126
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: what I mean. He came in, it was the same situation,

1127
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: came into a bad, bad deal, and they turned him

1128
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 1: around instantly, you know, And so that that that's what happens,

1129
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: and then we'll see, we'll see how McVeigh and that team,

1130
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: you know, continues. But I just think, I just think

1131
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: when you when you come in on Monday and you're

1132
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: upset about it, and now you're just gonna say, well,

1133
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: i'd never liked Jason Garrett. I mean, it's always it's

1134
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: always just like huge picture every time. Okay, they played

1135
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: a game, they got beat they shouldn't have been beaten

1136
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: that bad, but they weren't supposed to win that game. Yeah,

1137
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: but it's it's it's I don't think it's fair to

1138
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: characterize him as is just this week that he now

1139
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: is feeling like that, because there are a lot of

1140
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 1: fans and you've probably gottenas from them as well. There

1141
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: are a lot of fans who have been saying for

1142
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: a while that they don't like Jason Garrett as a

1143
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: head coach. And it has a lot to do it

1144
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: what Dave said, And so I'm not I'm not trying to.

1145
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to take that from him

1146
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: and and kind of paint him with the stroke of

1147
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: all the people that are kind of just reacting. Maybe

1148
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: he is one of those people that didn't like him.

1149
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: And I think I think it is fair. I think

1150
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 1: it is fair to criticize what happened from a coaching

1151
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 1: standpoint yesterday. There's no way you need to talk about

1152
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: as well. There's no way you let a guy get

1153
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: to six sacks without doing more. I get it. To

1154
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: stop it, I get it. But it's a weak argument

1155
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: to come up here and say it's not Belichick, Yeah,

1156
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: and who is? I get you. And then and then

1157
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: then to come back and say Andy Reid, what has

1158
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: Andy Reid ever done well? That one? Andy Reid's a

1159
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: good coach ian Yeah, he's a good coach. What has

1160
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: he done well? I was getting there. I was going

1161
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: to agree with you. You You didn't need to. I'm just saying.

1162
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying it's fired up. If you haven't noticed, well

1163
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 1: we you know Andy Reid in the sas. He's done

1164
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: great things. He turned Kansas City into a contender, he

1165
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: made for a NFC title games in the Super Bowl Philly.

1166
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: He gets killed all the time for dumb stuff that

1167
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: he he does, Like he's game management is an internet

1168
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: meme that he doesn't know how to manage the clock

1169
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: in a football game. So I mean this idealistics most

1170
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: coaches are pretty bad at something, And honestly, I think

1171
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,479
Speaker 1: most NFL coaches are kind of dumb or at least

1172
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: a decade or so behind when it comes to how

1173
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: to think about and manage a football game. Like that's

1174
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 1: just a fact, and I think coaches take a while

1175
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: to catch up to that type of stuff because ultimately

1176
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: it's their ass on the line, and ultimately, I think

1177
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches do things worried more about justifying

1178
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: it than whether or not it's actually a good idea,

1179
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: Like you don't want to have to you know, like

1180
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: people talk about Bill Belichick going for it on fourth

1181
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: and two from his own thirty five against Indie all

1182
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: the time. He's just about the only coach in the

1183
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: world that has that kind of clout to where he's

1184
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: going to do that and not worry about what's going

1185
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: to happen if he doesn't get it. That's just a reality. So,

1186
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of stuff you can criticize

1187
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett for. For the million time again, Yeah, Like,

1188
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: I don't think he's that great of a game day coach.

1189
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: But to come in here and act like he needs

1190
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: to be fired or like he's the root of all

1191
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: the Cowboys problems after loss, I don't think that's necessarily fair.

1192
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: All right, let's grab a call from Al and Philadelphia. Al?

1193
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: What up? Hey, how are you doing? First off, congratulations

1194
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: on all of your award just past Saturday. Thank you,

1195
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 1: Thank you, David, you do a great job. Don't leave

1196
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: the show. And Nick, thank you for what you just did.

1197
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Sean Lee is my favorite player.

1198
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: I think he's the MVP of this team, and I'm

1199
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: a huge Jason Garrett fan. My question is us, do

1200
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 1: you think Jaalen is And I like Jalen a lot.

1201
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: I'm not criticizing the kid, appreciate what he's doing out there,

1202
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: but do you think he might be overcompensating for his

1203
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: nerve and he's just trying to get a jump on

1204
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: a plane, just trying to be really aggressive, because he

1205
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: looks like he's always trying to be too aggressive and

1206
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: maybe do like a kill shot like Roy Williams and

1207
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 1: not actually read to play and see what's going on.

1208
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: Thank you for everything all of you do. All right, Thanks.

1209
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: It seemed like Jayalen just finds a way to end

1210
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: up on the ground like a lot. He's just like,

1211
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 1: if I dive at this guy, or if I lunge

1212
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,439
Speaker 1: over the pot, like at the end of the play,

1213
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna be on the ground. He's diving into something

1214
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: at the end of every place. Sometimes it just looks

1215
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: like he's like if I, if I, if I do this,

1216
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: it's at least gonna look like I had made And

1217
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's not making an effort, but you

1218
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like it's gonna look better if

1219
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: I make this a little theatrical. That's how it comes across.

1220
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: Sometimes I think the world of him. He's a great dude.

1221
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to close the book on him being

1222
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: a talented linebacker, but I just, I mean, every don't

1223
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: think he's ready. Every time he is asked to play

1224
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: a significant role. It hasn't worked out. And that's I

1225
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: wrote about it in my column last week, that that

1226
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: new role for him when Sean and hitch were both healthy,

1227
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: where he's playing fifteen to twenty snaps a game, he

1228
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: was pressure in the quarterback, he almost had a pick,

1229
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: he had a sack. He I mean, he was active

1230
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: when he only needed to play a handful of plays.

1231
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: And I just I don't think he's ready to be

1232
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: you know, what's to take starters caliber snaps. It'd be

1233
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: really interesting when they have to figure out what they

1234
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: do with Anthony Hitchins tract or some linebacker there because

1235
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: oh I and I mean, first, I hate I hated that.

1236
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: I get the point, but I hated the term that

1237
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: robbed us when he said Shaun Lee's holding him hostage.

1238
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: I don't like, Like that's I get it, it's frustrating

1239
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: to see such a talented player's sideline, but like Sean

1240
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: Lee's not doing this to spite you, Like nobody's angrier

1241
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: about his inability to stay on the field. And Shaun Lee,

1242
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: I promise you that, Like he's the most intense person

1243
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: I've ever been around. I bet he broke something in

1244
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: his house last night. Just knowing what I know about him,

1245
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: I was just hope nobody nobody's in the worst, so

1246
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: I doesn't do any good, just go on hitting things.

1247
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: But all of that said, Shaun Lee's north of thirty

1248
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: and the injury problems are way too well documented to ignore.

1249
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, the book is not closed, but you certainly

1250
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: just can't take it at face value that he's gonna

1251
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: become an All Pro. Anthony Hitchins is in a contract year.

1252
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: Damian Wilson will be in a contract year next year.

1253
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: We talked about that on the sideline last night. I mean,

1254
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: linebacker looks like one of your two or maybe your

1255
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: biggest need on this team going into next year, honestly

1256
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: biggest one. If not the biggest, then one of the

1257
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: two or three. I mean what else? What else left? Tackle?

1258
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: Offensive lines looks like a need. Yeah, safety is there,

1259
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: and then and then linebacker. I mean it's I think

1260
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: those three. And you could say something about wide receiver

1261
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: if you want to, But wide receiver is frustrating but

1262
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: not awful. In my opinion. Likede receiver is workable. Like

1263
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: if everything else is working, Wide receivers will work. Right,

1264
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: They're not gonna win like a whole bunch of games

1265
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: where you where it's just them, but they're workable. I don't.

1266
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: That's not a position. I like, you need help there,

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Speaker 1: you need help there. I think that that des Brian

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Speaker 1: is a really really good receiver. I think Cole Beasley

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Speaker 1: can be a good receiver in different offenses. Terrence Williams

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Speaker 1: is you know, workable, serviceable, can be pretty good. But

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Speaker 1: together those three I don't like them together. I don't

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Speaker 1: like those three together because of the reasons I've said

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Speaker 1: a thousand times. So I think that they could be

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Speaker 1: all good individually in different offenses, but in this one

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Speaker 1: I don't. They don't use that speed down Phil yesterday.

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Speaker 1: They need like a big plotting possession receiver, right, like

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Speaker 1: just a guy who's not super fast but can just

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Speaker 1: get possession reception. That's what we need. Yeah, more ladies

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Speaker 1: will keep them coming, keep those guys coming. Thank you

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Speaker 1: guys for joining us. We're back tomorrow morning. We'll be

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Speaker 1: let you guys know what's happening around the NFC, around

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Speaker 1: the NFC East and where the Cowboys stack up when

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Speaker 1: it comes to playoffs. Playoffs, all right, we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: that tomorrow. Appreciate you guys joining us. We'll see you.

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