1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Hey, Joe and Tracy here, we're stopping by to share 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: with you another podcast we think you'll really enjoy and 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: find to be insightful, sharp and entertaining from Pushkin Industries. 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: It's called Risky Business and it's hosted by our friends 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Nate Silver and Maria Kanakova. 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: Right, you might remember Nate and Maria from when they 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: joined us last year to talk about political prediction markets. 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: We were talking about how they work, how accurate they 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 2: actually are, and what they can tell us about election 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: campaigns and their outcomes. 11 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: Or you might be familiar with their work. Nate's the 12 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: founder of five thirty eight and the Steam journalist and 13 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: a political analyst. Maria has a PhD in psychology and 14 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: is a New York Times bestselling author. And they're both 15 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: high stakes poker players, so they know a thing or 16 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: two about taking risks, making bets, and calling out bluff. 17 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: On Risky Business, they look at how decisions are made 18 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: and they break down the odds, incentives and risks behind 19 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: the headlines to understand who's making moves and why. So 20 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: they look at everything from politics to sports, to personal decisions, 21 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: AI high electoral races, and of course reality TV. 22 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: Enjoy this preview of risky Business and if you like it, 23 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: fun Risky Business wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes 24 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: released twice a week on Wednesdays and Saturday. 25 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: Hey everyone, I'm Maria Kondakova, I'm Nate Silver, and this 26 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: is I'm Maria Kannakova. 27 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 4: I'm Nate Silver, and this is Risky Business, a show 28 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 4: about making good decisions. 29 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: We did it. We're so good, We're so smart. This 30 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: podcast is going to be amazing. So Nate, I'm really 31 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 3: excited to be hosting this show with you because you're 32 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: a statistician. You're someone who comes at the world from 33 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: a very rigorous, logical, mathematical perspective, and I think that 34 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: this is just such a beautiful perspective to look at 35 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 3: risk and risky decision making. 36 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 4: And Maria, I'm excited to be hosting with you. I mean, 37 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 4: we're great friends, but you're also a PhD in psychology, 38 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 4: You've written multiple best selling books, you have worked for 39 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 4: The New Yorker. You're a little bit more even keel 40 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 4: than I am, too, which sometimes is a great influence 41 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 4: on me. 42 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: Plus, obviously we're both poker players, and we've both won 43 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: and as you always point out lost, Yeah, hundreds of 44 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: thousands of dollars in the world of poker tournaments. And 45 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 3: so that's a lens that we're going to be using 46 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: to approach this entire show. Because poker isn't just about 47 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: playing cards, it's about making good decisions. It's about a 48 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: framework for thinking about the world and in risky business. 49 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 3: That's what we're going to be doing. We're going to 50 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,839 Speaker 3: be helping our listeners understand decision making using this framework. 51 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 3: So what exactly are we going to be talking about. Well, 52 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 3: obviously we're going to be talking about poker and the 53 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: world of gambling. 54 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 4: We'll be talking about politics and the news as well. Look, 55 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 4: we'll talk about the probabilities there as well as tactics 56 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 4: and strategy around politics and current events. How do things 57 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 4: like expected value or game theory affect decisions that affect 58 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 4: all of our lives. 59 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 3: And obviously we'll also be talking about kind of the 60 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 3: more personal elements of psychology, philosophy and the decisions that 61 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: we make in our daily lives that don't have anything 62 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: to do with the news but have everything to do 63 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: with living well. 64 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 4: The show is a co production of Pushkin Industries and 65 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 4: iHeartMedia and it's available wherever you want to listen.