Speaker 1: Check it down Man, Now down Man. Monday morning, December,
Speaker 1: we end up Beating the Book podcast guessing lines for
Speaker 1: Week seventeen in the National Football League, the final guessing
Speaker 1: lines of the year, the final week of the National
Speaker 1: Football League regular season. Merry Christmas, Happy holidays to all.
Speaker 1: Chris Andrews standing by to do what we always do,
Speaker 1: take a crack, and in this case I mean a
Speaker 1: sort of inexact crack, more inexact than ever for Week
Speaker 1: seventeen lines. Some will be really easy, some will just
Speaker 1: be about throwing her hands up in the air and hoping.
Speaker 1: So many motivation issues, so many scenarios. Will talk about
Speaker 1: all of them as we take a look back at
Speaker 1: Week sixteen. Week seventeen, though guessing lines, the squirreliest of
Speaker 1: all weeks. Right here on the Beating the Book Podcast,
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Speaker 1: producing over five Jeff parlays here. It's happening in Parlay.
Speaker 1: You good, you know, And I'm in a great mood today,
Speaker 1: and why why wouldn't we be, Why wouldn't we be?
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, man, Merry Christmas, Happy holidays to all whatever
Speaker 1: it is you're celebrating. You out of here after the
Speaker 1: show today for a couple of days, Parlay, right after
Speaker 1: the show, out of here. Well you're you're you're off,
Speaker 1: You're off to uh. I would imagine probably the Bay
Speaker 1: as always, because it's very always go whenever you leave
Speaker 1: town as a but I know it's it. Look, it's
Speaker 1: it's a great time of the year. It was a
Speaker 1: very perplexing football weekend and U and now we go
Speaker 1: into an even more perplexing football weekend. So is what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do on the show today? It is a
Speaker 1: guessing lines. It's our final guessing lines of the year.
Speaker 1: Chris Andrews is standing by he he will do this
Speaker 1: of course with us. Week seventeen is always squirrely. I
Speaker 1: really can't come up with a better word than that.
Speaker 1: So this is less guessing lines than it is just
Speaker 1: taking a stab at stuff. And it's one of these
Speaker 1: things where the exercises. I just glanced at it and guessed,
Speaker 1: and I'm either really right on it or the guesses
Speaker 1: are horrific. And there's so many of these games that
Speaker 1: there's just no rhyme or reason to what the number
Speaker 1: would be. We'll talk about all the motivational angles here
Speaker 1: in week seventeen in the NFL, and we'll talk about
Speaker 1: every single playoff scenario down to ridiculous minutia where it
Speaker 1: comes to teams like the Raiders and the Seahawks. Let's
Speaker 1: bring him in to discuss all. It is our friend
Speaker 1: from the South Point Hotel Casino sports book, the director
Speaker 1: of that sports book. It's our friend, Chrisie Andrews. Good morning, Chris,
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Very Christmas, Gill and I don't I imagine
Speaker 1: there's a lot of happy people out there today because
Speaker 1: week I murdered. This weekend. Yeah, we really, uh the tough,
Speaker 1: tough weekend for it. What were your biggest decisions that
Speaker 1: went against you? Oh? Man, I mean they You know,
Speaker 1: I was going over the games yesterday with Jimmy and
Speaker 1: it was like we was like every game, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll have to start bringing it up, but thank god,
Speaker 1: I expunge it. From my memory. But of course last
Speaker 1: night was the Capper We need the Bears for a
Speaker 1: fortune because we had everything going into that and I
Speaker 1: mean and really you could see early on we had
Speaker 1: pretty much like no chance whatsoever. No, you know, as
Speaker 1: the Bears fans got to watch you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: it was really go ahead. I'm sorry, you know, Bears
Speaker 1: fans got to watch Patrick Mahomes just to destroy them
Speaker 1: in front of their very eyes. The guy that they
Speaker 1: decided to trade, uh, in front of what are you
Speaker 1: what are you saying back there? Jeff was just I'm
Speaker 1: just counting to ten like Mahomes was after that first touch.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. So they trade up for Drabisky, they
Speaker 1: draft him. Second, there's Mahomes, who who goes to the
Speaker 1: a Chiefs. So they traded up to get a tin
Speaker 1: and the Bears got to see it at all their
Speaker 1: glory that's who they could. Yeah, um, all right, Chris,
Speaker 1: well let's do this because there's just some bad ones
Speaker 1: to be like that. Yeah, we got that first second,
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead. Yeah, I'm gonna say the other
Speaker 1: really bad and was the Raider game. Early in the week.
Speaker 1: We got steamed heavy on the Chargers but we got
Speaker 1: late money on the Raiders and way more than I wanted.
Speaker 1: It just gets coming in on the Raiders and especially
Speaker 1: on the money line and at that moment being a terrible,
Speaker 1: terrible game for US. Um you know, we just needed
Speaker 1: the Chargers to win in any way. You know, they
Speaker 1: didn't have to cover, but just win and uh that's
Speaker 1: another game. We're kind of out of that early too,
Speaker 1: you know. So it was it was a rough day
Speaker 1: for US, I can tell you that. But the players
Speaker 1: should be really happy this weekend. Your college Saturday was
Speaker 1: a little better. Saturday to College was okay. You know.
Speaker 1: We had a couple of bad games. The you know,
Speaker 1: the the it was the one game fell on three.
Speaker 1: I can't go back to, uh the which game was
Speaker 1: so on Saturday that on three My mind's drawn a blank.
Speaker 1: Here one Saturday game where you were gone from two
Speaker 1: and a half hallway to three and a half back
Speaker 1: to three. So nobody had a losing ticket on that game.
Speaker 1: It was Texans and Buccaneers, you know. So we went
Speaker 1: from when when the rumor was out to Winston was out,
Speaker 1: we were up to three and a half, and then
Speaker 1: when he came back in, we went all the way
Speaker 1: down to two and a half, and that was an
Speaker 1: ugly game for us. All Right. I was trying to
Speaker 1: think college weekend. I was trying to think of a
Speaker 1: college game that went on three, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I couldn't think of any, but yes, Tampa Bay Houston
Speaker 1: did following three. Christy, we got a lot to get to.
Speaker 1: Let's start with. Uh. They're also all of these games
Speaker 1: are on Sunday. There there are no Saturday games, you
Speaker 1: Thursday games. There's a Monday night game. You have a
Speaker 1: uh a daytime window and afternoon window, and then you
Speaker 1: have the caper at night, which I know is Seattle
Speaker 1: in San Francisco, which is flexed to Sunday night. Um.
Speaker 1: And what we have the first sort of betting thing
Speaker 1: to know is that all correlated parlays have been legislated out,
Speaker 1: so games that relate to each other based on playoff circumstance.
Speaker 1: So if this team does this, then it means this
Speaker 1: for this other team. In other words, does it render
Speaker 1: this game meaning fuller meaning less based on a on
Speaker 1: another result, all of those end up being in the
Speaker 1: same time window. Um. So, Tennessee Houston, excuse me, Tennessee
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh pardon me, Tennessee, Pittsburgh, and Dallas Philadelphia. Those results
Speaker 1: are all in their same windows. Um, so there's nothing
Speaker 1: to sort of wait for from one window to another
Speaker 1: and think that you can get a betting advantage. We'll
Speaker 1: see if there's anything else to get into regarding that,
Speaker 1: but that's the main thing is that most of the
Speaker 1: most potential correlated parlays have been legislated out because they
Speaker 1: fall into the same time windows. Let's start with the
Speaker 1: early games, though, chrissie, because we've got a whole bunch
Speaker 1: to get to here, a whole bunch of implications and scenarios. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've got thirteen early games, so we got two in
Speaker 1: the afternoon and one at night, so it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a crazy morning. Yeah, okay, yeah, you know. But you're
Speaker 1: right though, I mean, it has to be legislated out. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, it was a picnic in the old days
Speaker 1: for gamblers to create those parlaysh they they we as
Speaker 1: bookmakers had to watch that. And then the NFL kind
Speaker 1: of got hip to it too, and uh, like you said,
Speaker 1: legislated it out. So anyway, first up, Tennessee at Houston.
Speaker 1: Tennessee at Houston, now a couple of weeks ago, this
Speaker 1: was like, all right, well, Tennessee and Houston get to
Speaker 1: play each other in weeks fifteen and seventeen. Uh, and
Speaker 1: they were tied at the time, and there was all
Speaker 1: kinds of implications. Well, not so much anymore. It means
Speaker 1: a lot for Tennessee. It could potentially mean seating for
Speaker 1: seating differences with the Texans. Tennessee, Uh, yesterday they lose
Speaker 1: to New Orleans by the score of thirty eight to
Speaker 1: twenty eight, a game that they led fourteen nothing, but
Speaker 1: they could not uh stop the New Orleans on slot
Speaker 1: they have. Here's the story with Tennessee. They will clinch
Speaker 1: a playoff berth with a win against Houston in this
Speaker 1: ballgame at Houston UM. With a loss to Houston, they
Speaker 1: would still clinch a playoff birth with a Pittsburgh loss
Speaker 1: to Baltimore. And in Indianapolis lost to Jacksonville. By the way,
Speaker 1: you'll hear this a lot about Indianapolis. They cannot make
Speaker 1: the playoffs themselves, but they have the result of their
Speaker 1: game impacts lots of other teams. So good for you,
Speaker 1: indian Appolis, you get that much. So again, clinch a
Speaker 1: playoff berth for Tennessee. With a win here against Houston
Speaker 1: a loss to Houston, they could still get in with
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh lost to Baltimore and in Indiana lost Indianapolis
Speaker 1: lost to Jacksonville, both of which you know, very possible.
Speaker 1: We'll get into why um Tannehill yesterday sevente for two
Speaker 1: seventy two, but he was sacked four times by halftime,
Speaker 1: five total in the game. UH Tennessee had the ball
Speaker 1: with four twenty four left in this game. They were
Speaker 1: down by a field goal to the Saints, and then
Speaker 1: the Saints turned the ball over after lining up for
Speaker 1: a punt, snapping the ball short to Taysom. Hill throws
Speaker 1: to a wide open Justin Hardy Senor. He drops the ball,
Speaker 1: and then the next play, with the Titans looking good
Speaker 1: just down three, Tannehill throws to Calif Raymond to the
Speaker 1: New Orleans forty and rookie safety C. J. Gardner Johnson
Speaker 1: for the Saints hits Raymond knocks the ball loose, Gardner
Speaker 1: Johnson picks it up, run thirty eight yards of the
Speaker 1: Titans twenty five. No flag for what Titans coach Mike
Speaker 1: Vrabel thought could have been a hit to the head
Speaker 1: of a defenseless receiver, and that's pretty much where it ended.
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry did not play yesterday for the Titans hamstring injury.
Speaker 1: For Houston, they are a f C South champs. We
Speaker 1: know that already. For out of the last five years,
Speaker 1: by the way, they've been a f C champs. FC
Speaker 1: South amps. Only the Patriots and the Chiefs with four
Speaker 1: division titles since like the Texans, those are the three
Speaker 1: teams now. The Texans could move up to number three
Speaker 1: if they beat and the if they beat the Titans
Speaker 1: in this game and the Chiefs lose next week thanks
Speaker 1: to a head to head tiebreaker over the Chiefs. By
Speaker 1: the way, as Chrissy just mentioned, Houston beating Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: in a turnover filled game on Saturday by a field goal.
Speaker 1: Another game where Will will Fuller, by the way left
Speaker 1: he's made of glass. He left with a groin injury,
Speaker 1: didn't return in the second quarter. That's a huge thing
Speaker 1: for Houston. But really Houston's in. It's just a matter
Speaker 1: of seating. And we've done this many years where we
Speaker 1: talk about a team can affect their seating, and what
Speaker 1: we find is that teams that only have seating implications
Speaker 1: really don't seem to care as much as we think
Speaker 1: they might when they're in. They're kind of content at
Speaker 1: this point in the situation that Houston's in, like the
Speaker 1: situation Houston's in, so Tennessee's at Houston. Tennessee I will
Speaker 1: say as minus three, but again the caveat being it's
Speaker 1: week seventeen. Who knows what these lines are gonna be.
Speaker 1: I'll say Tennessee minus three for all the reasons stated.
Speaker 1: It's funny. I hear from a lot of people saying, boy,
Speaker 1: how many times you like Gill's number better? This is
Speaker 1: one of those times. Like Gills number, it's Tennessee five
Speaker 1: and a half. It's five and a half, and I
Speaker 1: see one six. Um. You know, I know what you're
Speaker 1: saying about the seeding, and I believe that to be true.
Speaker 1: But I also say, these teams that need the game, Boy,
Speaker 1: that's one of the most overbet angles in sports. And
Speaker 1: uh so I see five and a half and six.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on the low end here and stick
Speaker 1: with the five and a half. Uh And let me
Speaker 1: just you know, before we go too much further, I
Speaker 1: hate this week. I just despise it. And but of
Speaker 1: course you know, it's you know, what can you do
Speaker 1: a part of the game. You know, so I will
Speaker 1: extra care hole on all these games. But I'll open
Speaker 1: five and a half because I do see a little
Speaker 1: bit higher and I even see five and app live
Speaker 1: rejuice on the favorite see a six out there, So
Speaker 1: I'll open five and a half. But you know, but
Speaker 1: you know, like this is you know, James selenas like
Speaker 1: I always say, is like one of the great amateur
Speaker 1: psychologists I've ever seen where it comes to handicapping. Certainly,
Speaker 1: try to put on your James Selene's hat this week
Speaker 1: because you got to read into this as much as
Speaker 1: you can and see what you can figure out who's playing,
Speaker 1: what coaches are doing, etcetera, etcetera. But you know, you
Speaker 1: never know some of these. But right now I think
Speaker 1: that numbers a little too high. But you know, we'll
Speaker 1: we'll have to see as the week progresses. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you make it. You make a great point. So on
Speaker 1: the one hand, when I was saying, Houston they're in,
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of seating, and usually when we
Speaker 1: think that matters to teams, it oftentimes doesn't. The point
Speaker 1: you're making is tennessee, uh if they win there in
Speaker 1: if they lose, I just mentioned a scenario where they
Speaker 1: they could still get in. So it's not an absolute
Speaker 1: must win situation, but it's a borderline must win kind
Speaker 1: of thing. And in absolute must wins, what you were
Speaker 1: just talking about is, you know, we think the average fan,
Speaker 1: oh it must win, the means more to them. And
Speaker 1: Dr Bob was just on my podcast last week with
Speaker 1: with Jeff and Todd who is on the megapod, the
Speaker 1: Beating the Book Megapod, and he has a database of
Speaker 1: teams that are in absolute must wins. By the way,
Speaker 1: it's tough for a database to pick it up. He
Speaker 1: has to go back and do those manually and over
Speaker 1: some huge sample size. It's a horrific ats record for
Speaker 1: teams that are in must win situations against teams that
Speaker 1: are in not must win situations. So don't think that
Speaker 1: just because Tennessee has more to play for that it's
Speaker 1: a lock. So I've got three and you said you're
Speaker 1: putting it up at and a half five and a
Speaker 1: half and you like my number better. We're getting like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we are getting a lot of people are saying that
Speaker 1: how many times as Chris as say, like skills never been.
Speaker 1: All right, let's do another one, because you're right, I
Speaker 1: mean that game alone. We're one game in and already
Speaker 1: it's like who knows right with motivation? Okay, here's here's
Speaker 1: another barn burner. Cleveland at Cincinnati. Cleveland Cincinnati, and Jeff,
Speaker 1: you were saying now to me in my ear that
Speaker 1: they have switched to the timing on game so that
Speaker 1: there's eight early and seven in the afternoon. Is that right?
Speaker 1: That is correct? That was announced late late yesterday, so
Speaker 1: that Tennessee Houston game will be a one Pacific start
Speaker 1: in Houston. So east this uh, this barn burner of
Speaker 1: the Battle of Ohio is did not move it as
Speaker 1: a ten am. It is a ten am game, all right,
Speaker 1: So maybe you should announce the ten am s. We'll
Speaker 1: do that. So we'll start with this once it's Chriszy
Speaker 1: just mentioned. So Cleveland at Cincinnati, let's not be labored
Speaker 1: the point here. Cleveland was eliminated from playoff contention yesterday
Speaker 1: their loss to the Ravens. They'll miss the playoffs for
Speaker 1: the seventeen straight season, seventeen seasons in a row no playoffs.
Speaker 1: With the Cleveland Browns their twelve straight losing season. We
Speaker 1: all remember if those of us who are immersed in betting,
Speaker 1: they were the darling of betters in the off season.
Speaker 1: One more week to like cash my plus win fifty
Speaker 1: five plus one fifty five Cleveland not making the playoffs
Speaker 1: over there at Billy Hill that I got before the season.
Speaker 1: Uh Odell Beckham Jr. Flinging his helmet on the sideline
Speaker 1: and frustration exchanged words with Freddie Kitchens. Uh. Less than
Speaker 1: ninety seconds left in the first half, Browns are down
Speaker 1: seven six and Baltimore has no time outs left. Incomplete pass,
Speaker 1: incomplete pass, and then instead of deciding to give the
Speaker 1: Bravens the ball back with mere seconds left rather than
Speaker 1: a full minute plus another incomplete pass. It's just the
Speaker 1: time management is egregious. And of course Lar Jackson and
Speaker 1: the Ravens go back down the field and score, and
Speaker 1: it's fourteen six and a halftime game over kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati loses to Miami and what was just an unbelievable
Speaker 1: come back. I guess we I guess we should talk
Speaker 1: about these games. Acond Sincin Natie down twenty three in
Speaker 1: that ball game to the Dolphins. Late Miami gives up
Speaker 1: sixteen points in the final twenty nine seconds of regulation.
Speaker 1: Regroup end up winning in overtime against the Bengals thirty
Speaker 1: eight to thirty five, but three four touchdown passes, including
Speaker 1: three in the final five oh one of regulation for
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton again a twenty three point comeback. I had
Speaker 1: looked away and my buddy Ray texted me. He's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Cincinnati. I thought his text was like
Speaker 1: delayed for two hours or something like what is he
Speaker 1: talking about? But the Bengals get the number one pick
Speaker 1: in the draft. That's the real upshot of their loss.
Speaker 1: They clinched the number one pick in the draft. Most
Speaker 1: people think they're gonna take Ohio born and raised Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow for their pick next year. So they're on the clock.
Speaker 1: I'll just say Cleveland minus three, because you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess it's two and a half with
Speaker 1: Juice on the favorite. I don't see any threes. I
Speaker 1: guess I'm gonna open two and a half. But that
Speaker 1: was one of those games I was talking about the
Speaker 1: Miami games. I had it like in a corner two
Speaker 1: V I quit watching it, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: they scored twice and they two deuces in the last
Speaker 1: thirty seconds. Obviously I had that was one game, actually
Speaker 1: won that one. I don't know how we did. But
Speaker 1: the Cleveland game again Freddie Kitchens and I think I
Speaker 1: quoted on this show last week Paul find Bond and
Speaker 1: talked about he's famous for covering the sec primarily Alabama
Speaker 1: followed Freddie Kittens from high school through college and then
Speaker 1: you know as a pro uh, you know, in his
Speaker 1: pro career as an assistant coach, and he he went
Speaker 1: on records and it might be the worst higher in
Speaker 1: NFL history, and yesterday would be a perfect case in point.
Speaker 1: Um that's yeah. I mean that was a terrible game
Speaker 1: for US. I mean, while they had a chance to cover,
Speaker 1: you know, getting a big number and of course good anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna open to an half. I think we've talked
Speaker 1: about this game and or Joe Burrow is all I
Speaker 1: could say. Poor job, poor job Burrow. I agree. And
Speaker 1: by the way, the only other thing I will mention
Speaker 1: about this game is our dear friend Todd wishnev had
Speaker 1: had an in game on the Dolphins minus three and
Speaker 1: a half. I'm sorry, it's for poor kid. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just poor kid. That's all I could say. That's horrific.
Speaker 1: All right, let's do another. Jeff, why don't you you
Speaker 1: announce it? Tenny? Why doesn't Jeff? Yeah, Jeff, you give
Speaker 1: us a good I control the course of the show. Now,
Speaker 1: this is a dangerous game for all of us. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go to Tampa. Now we'll go Atlanta at the Bucks. Okay,
Speaker 1: this game means nothing. UM Atlanta six and nine. They've
Speaker 1: won five of seven games and starting one in seven.
Speaker 1: Good for the Falcons. I'm not sure it's enough to
Speaker 1: save dan Quinn's job, but the Falcons get it done
Speaker 1: with the twelve win over the Jaguars, a game which
Speaker 1: they led fourteen and nothing before you could even blink.
Speaker 1: Five eighteen total yard for the Falcons, and that win
Speaker 1: yesterday Julio ten for one sixty six UM Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: As we mentioned, they lose to Houston on Saturday. That
Speaker 1: drops Tampa Bay to seven and eight. But this was bad, Jamis.
Speaker 1: They's just a turnover filled game. The six turnovers between
Speaker 1: both teams in the first half. Jamis ends up with
Speaker 1: four picks and yet another pick six. Jamis Winston has
Speaker 1: thrown six pick six is on the season six. That's incredible.
Speaker 1: It also was his eleventh career game with at least
Speaker 1: three interceptions, so he's slowly working on a full season
Speaker 1: of games in his career with three picks or more.
Speaker 1: Even though they outgain Houston four thirty five to two
Speaker 1: twenty nine, including a one oh six to sixty eight
Speaker 1: edge on the ground, doesn't matter. It doesn't matter in
Speaker 1: the end when you're minus three in turnovers, I'll just
Speaker 1: say it's a pick up. I mean, I have no
Speaker 1: idea what to make this. It's Atlanta and Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: Neither is anything to play for, So flip a coin,
Speaker 1: pick them perfect because I see both teams favored by
Speaker 1: one that And uh, did you ever see did you
Speaker 1: ever see a player in the NFL seeing something basketball?
Speaker 1: Ever see a player that keeps both sides in the
Speaker 1: game as good as Jameis Winston. He had one four hundred,
Speaker 1: three hundred thirty five yards, that's you know. And I'm
Speaker 1: looking at his QBR. QBR was forty six point one,
Speaker 1: which is like almost average, and there's a terrible performance.
Speaker 1: Like I said, QBR is a total mystery to me sometimes,
Speaker 1: you know, but I like looking at it. I don't
Speaker 1: know what they're thinking, but I like looking at it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was just awful, just awful. I've
Speaker 1: never seen a guy and keep both sides in the
Speaker 1: game like Jameis Winston week after week. But he pick
Speaker 1: comes sounds good. Yeah, fantasy glory. For people who love
Speaker 1: to play pick fantasy players, they gravitate towards Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: games because the totals always I and he'll keep it.
Speaker 1: Like you said, he'll be a stat machine and he'll
Speaker 1: allow the other team to be that as well. Yes, Jeff,
Speaker 1: two interceptions away from the illustrious thirty thirty for Jamis
Speaker 1: Winston joining the ranks of Jose Canseco. That was gonna say.
Speaker 1: Nobody told them it was the wrong sport. All right,
Speaker 1: let's do one more and it's an am window here
Speaker 1: real quick. Alright, we'll go. We'll go to Buffalo Jets
Speaker 1: at the Bills, Jets of the Bills. God, I don't
Speaker 1: mean to I don't mean to be boring, but let
Speaker 1: me just tell you what my pick is. Already. It's
Speaker 1: another pick him. It's another pick them to me, because okay,
Speaker 1: the Jets, the Jets beat your Steelers. They beat him
Speaker 1: sixteen to ten. Sam Donald six one eighty three, one touchdown,
Speaker 1: note picks two uh sacks. But again, this was a
Speaker 1: game that could have Pittsburgh almost one. At the end.
Speaker 1: There was a deep pass to James Washington on third
Speaker 1: and seven from the Jets forty four markets May made
Speaker 1: an unbelievable play on third down, then a fourth down
Speaker 1: Hodges to Juju Goes incomplete, actually hit off his hands,
Speaker 1: and so a stadium that was really filled with Steelers
Speaker 1: fans and MetLife Jets beat the Steelers, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter for them. They're six and nine playing out the string.
Speaker 1: And then Buffalo, they were valiant in their effort against
Speaker 1: the Patriots on Saturday. I had the but I had
Speaker 1: the Bills plus six and a half didn't work out.
Speaker 1: Patriots did Patriots things. Buffalo was only two of eleven
Speaker 1: on third down in that game. Josh Allen not particularly
Speaker 1: accurate when they needed him to be in that game.
Speaker 1: But but no shame in Buffalo falling to ten and five.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Buffalo is locked into the number
Speaker 1: five seed in the a f C. Nothing they do
Speaker 1: in this game will change that. Nothing anybody else does
Speaker 1: will change that. So their number five. So it's a
Speaker 1: pick them because I don't know what else to make it.
Speaker 1: There's no motivation for the Bills here. They could sit
Speaker 1: everybody for all I know. Yeah, I see I see
Speaker 1: a couple of picks, but I also see Buffalo one.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna open one because you know, I know
Speaker 1: they've got nothing to play for, but they're just such
Speaker 1: a better team. And if one of them for jamis
Speaker 1: Winston sam Darne will be what would be the guy
Speaker 1: keeping both sides in the game. Uh, as well as
Speaker 1: anybody I've ever seen. It didn't yesterday played he played,
Speaker 1: you know, fairly well, didn't turn the ball over, which
Speaker 1: he's been a turnover machine if he ever gets strained out.
Speaker 1: He really has a lot of talent. But I've been
Speaker 1: saying the same thing about James for the last couple
Speaker 1: of years too. Anyway, I like I like Buffalo one. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, they got nothing to play for, but you
Speaker 1: know they'll still show up, I think, especially at home.
Speaker 1: So that number looks a little cheap to me, But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna open one just because I do see some
Speaker 1: pickups around. Yeah, well, we had a couple of pick
Speaker 1: ups there that was that was a fabulous opening segment,
Speaker 1: just just throwing out numbers. Yeah, we'll get back, but
Speaker 1: we'll go through all the applications because all of these
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Speaker 1: Four games into week seventeen of the National Football League
Speaker 1: to already picked them guesses, um motivations just all over
Speaker 1: the place, Implications and playoff scenarios all over the place
Speaker 1: as well, Jeff, let's get to another early window game,
Speaker 1: all right, guys, let's go New Orleans at Carolina. New
Speaker 1: Orleans at Carolina, Well Graham making his debut yesterday for
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers, they lose their seventh straight to Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: This time, Greer was four no touchdowns, three picks. He
Speaker 1: was sacked five times. Choppy if you will, Christian McCaffrey
Speaker 1: continues to just fill the statute thirteen carries for fifty
Speaker 1: four yards, fifteen catches on fifteen targets for one nineteen.
Speaker 1: But of course the Panthers were minus three in turnovers,
Speaker 1: all three uh being Greer picks and uh that was
Speaker 1: that for Carolina as they lose to Indianapolis thirty eight
Speaker 1: to six at seven point. Dogs also gave up a
Speaker 1: two punt returns for touchdowns uh to nine behind. So
Speaker 1: New Orleans here's the deal. They beat. As we already mentioned,
Speaker 1: they beat Tennessee yesterday, came back from a fourteen to
Speaker 1: nothing deficit. They beat Tennessee thirty eight to twenty eight,
Speaker 1: and they end up covering the three points spread there
Speaker 1: at three and a half depending on what it closed
Speaker 1: at for you. So New Orleans is twelve and three.
Speaker 1: New Orleans would clinch a first round by in this game.
Speaker 1: Against Carolina. With a win and one green Bay loss
Speaker 1: either tonight for Green Bay or next week against Detroit,
Speaker 1: they would clinch home field advantage throughout the playoffs. Would
Speaker 1: New Orleans with a win here against Carolina, one green
Speaker 1: Bay loss doesn't matter which game, and a San Francisco
Speaker 1: lost the Seattle next week on Sunday Night. So New
Speaker 1: Orleans still has everything to play for it. But it's
Speaker 1: at Carolina. And I'm gonna say it's just shy of
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. I said either thirteen and a half or thirteen,
Speaker 1: so I'll just say thirteen here. It's a pretty solid
Speaker 1: thirteen twelve and a half. Uh, and then I see
Speaker 1: a fourteen with a bunch of juice on the dog.
Speaker 1: I think thirteen is okay, a little light if anything.
Speaker 1: Caroline was just awful singing. Weren't they you? A career
Speaker 1: qbr of eight point nine and like a dispute, tb
Speaker 1: are quite a bit not in that case. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: just just awful. And McCaffrey, you know, boy, you know
Speaker 1: part of me my heart breaks for this kid, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You just they're using them up
Speaker 1: like crazy, But I mean they don't have any other weapons.
Speaker 1: We have thirteen carries and fifteen receptions, and that's an
Speaker 1: awful lot for a running back. And man, man, I've
Speaker 1: gotta kill this kid. But I think thirteen a band
Speaker 1: like a little bit higher. But again, I don't like
Speaker 1: to mess around too much, certainly not in this week.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna open thirteen see where it goes. But
Speaker 1: a bit trends higher, I'm gonna go higher. I think
Speaker 1: New Orleans with with things to play for, and they're
Speaker 1: just that much better than Caroline at this point, I
Speaker 1: think this has all the mark blowout and proud of that.
Speaker 1: Guess yeah, it's it's thirteen or higher for me. For
Speaker 1: thirteen and a half, I almost went with McCaffrey. No
Speaker 1: signs of of them sitting him. You're right, just risk
Speaker 1: injury doesn't matter except for a contract to It's the
Speaker 1: weirdest thing with McCaffrey just playing as uh as much
Speaker 1: as he is. By the way, Mike Thomas, of course,
Speaker 1: yesterday twelve catches for one thirty six one hundred and
Speaker 1: forty five receptions, setting the NFL single season record, breaking
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison's old record set back in the early two thousands. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: so New Orleans, as we mentioned first round, by with
Speaker 1: a win against Carolina and one Green Bay loss. They
Speaker 1: clinch home field advantage with a win against Carolina, one
Speaker 1: green Bay loss and a San Francisco lost to Seattle.
Speaker 1: What's next, Jeff? The Green Bay Packers at the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1: All right, So again all the they've legislated correlated parlays out.
Speaker 1: So these are all these games that affect each other
Speaker 1: are in the same window. So Green Bay at Detroit.
Speaker 1: Green Bay, as we know, they've already clinched a playoff
Speaker 1: birth they did so last week. They can still win
Speaker 1: the NFC North with a win tonight at Minnesota. And
Speaker 1: by the way, Green Bay is five point dogs at
Speaker 1: the Vikings tonight. Packers are in good shape regardless. Even
Speaker 1: if they lose to the Vikings tonight, they can clinch
Speaker 1: the division by beating the Lions next week in this game.
Speaker 1: So again, Packers, it's on their racket in terms of
Speaker 1: the NFC North. As far as Detroit, they've lost their
Speaker 1: eighth straight eight in a row. Now for Detroit, they
Speaker 1: looked pretty good against Denver earlier than they lose late
Speaker 1: to Denver to seventeen blow twelve of twenty four, twelve
Speaker 1: completions for one seventeen yards one nine total yards of
Speaker 1: offense for the Lions yesterday again eight straight and Matt
Speaker 1: Patricia's coming back, I'll say Green Bay mine is ten
Speaker 1: on the road. Yeah, I see nine and a half
Speaker 1: and ten, and I think I'm gonna go with ten.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was a bad game for Detroit game
Speaker 1: talking about yesterday, Uh, you know, a lot of late
Speaker 1: money on her and uh, boy, I thought we were
Speaker 1: in pretty good shape throughout mostly throughout much of the game.
Speaker 1: I thought Detroit had a great chance of covering. I
Speaker 1: mean it's just, uh you know, I mean it's a
Speaker 1: lot of points for to get against a Denver team
Speaker 1: and they only put up twenty seven, but that was enough.
Speaker 1: And uh but Detroit really looks like it's gone south. Um,
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia coming back, I guess you got to give
Speaker 1: him another year. Boy, I don't know, but tells you why.
Speaker 1: Detroit has been really a more bund franchise for pretty
Speaker 1: much my entire existence. So you know, anyway, I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with ten. But there is both numbers around,
Speaker 1: but I think ten's okay right now. Detroit would get
Speaker 1: the third pick in the draft at April third worst
Speaker 1: record of the National Football League Jeff one more early
Speaker 1: Chicago at Minnesota, Chicago at Minnesota. As we were talking
Speaker 1: about Mr Bisky last night, eighteen of thirty four for one, seven,
Speaker 1: no touchdowns, no picks. Um, they flashed up a graphic yesterday.
Speaker 1: This is what all I'll say about the Bears, because
Speaker 1: they were just rolled us As al Michael's called it
Speaker 1: a unanimous decision last night for the Chiefs, or as
Speaker 1: or As al michael said, a unanimous descrision. That's how
Speaker 1: he said. Um, but they flashed up a graphic. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry they flashed up a graphic about Mitch Drobiskie season.
Speaker 1: And if you take passer rating, not QBR, but I
Speaker 1: take passer rating, which is scored out of one fifty
Speaker 1: eight point three. League average is ninety one point one.
Speaker 1: So he's played, he started thirteen games, remember those are
Speaker 1: the two he didn't. Nine of his games have been
Speaker 1: a sub e d passer rating again, league average ninety
Speaker 1: one point one, nine of them sub eighty, including yesterday
Speaker 1: which was sixty five point four, four of them the
Speaker 1: other four over one fifteen. So it's really feast or
Speaker 1: famine with Mr Biscuit. By the way, the famine far
Speaker 1: exceeds the feast. That's the mits R Bisky story, at
Speaker 1: least through the prism of passer rating. As far as Minnesota,
Speaker 1: they clinched the playoff berth with the Ams lost to
Speaker 1: the Niners on Saturday, so Minnesota is in. They can
Speaker 1: still win the NFC North. Can the Vikings With two
Speaker 1: wins and a green Bay loss to Detroit that we
Speaker 1: just talked about again, these are all in the same windows,
Speaker 1: so no correlation allowed and betting. It's not like we'll
Speaker 1: know the result of one and then can affect the
Speaker 1: line dramatically of a second game. Those days are over, um.
Speaker 1: But Minnesota they got the game against green Bay tonight.
Speaker 1: I'll say, you know, site unseen tonight barring major injury,
Speaker 1: and of course, remember there's no Dalvin Cook tonight already
Speaker 1: for the Vikings. Who knows if he'll even playing a
Speaker 1: week's seventeen, I'll say Minnesota by seven and a half
Speaker 1: against the Bears. Just thrown out a number. I see,
Speaker 1: like one number, but I'm not even sure it's a
Speaker 1: I don't even think you get bet on it. It's seven, um,
Speaker 1: right now, yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna leave it off at
Speaker 1: this point. I'm gonna hate doing that, but I think
Speaker 1: I don't have much choice. I talked to my guys
Speaker 1: this morning and we all kind of agreed, let's just
Speaker 1: leave it off at this point. Um, you know, seven
Speaker 1: is probably a decent number. By the way, and our
Speaker 1: friend Chris FeliCa texted us the Drabinskys uh QBR five
Speaker 1: point four. I don't have QUBR for the year, but
Speaker 1: I'm sure that. But I mean Buck Hodges, if he's
Speaker 1: looking at these numbers probably breathing a sigh, really because
Speaker 1: he no longer has the worst QBR. The day goes
Speaker 1: to Mr Robinsky. Uh but boy, you know, to say
Speaker 1: what you want about Mitch, and there's some talent there
Speaker 1: and he could use some coaching. But was a fourth
Speaker 1: and twenty three or fourth and when he throws the
Speaker 1: three yard pass, there's a guy that just has no
Speaker 1: concept of the game. I mean the game you throw
Speaker 1: it up. I mean, you got to throw the ball
Speaker 1: down the field and I can see where you throw,
Speaker 1: you know, an eighteen yard pass and hope the receiver
Speaker 1: can make a play for the extra couple of yards. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's forgivable. You can't throw a three yard pass for
Speaker 1: God's sake and hope the guy picks up three on
Speaker 1: his home Yeah, man, Naggie was doing weird things at
Speaker 1: the end of that game, to calling time out and
Speaker 1: extending the game for no particular reason. It was very
Speaker 1: odd last night. Come on, yeah, all right? Um, so
Speaker 1: not putting up. Yeah, I can't blame you can't blame
Speaker 1: you at all. Minnesota place tonight again hosting green Bay. Uh,
Speaker 1: five point favorites, with implications abounding Minnesota against again already
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, but they could still win the NFC
Speaker 1: North with two wins in a Green Bay loss to Detroit. However, uh,
Speaker 1: however sort of improbable that might be. They still have
Speaker 1: a shot at the division title. We'll come back, We'll
Speaker 1: do more. That was three, right, Jeff. We're right on
Speaker 1: schedule here, yes, guessing lines week seventeen, and I do
Speaker 1: mean guessing. We'll go through all the scenarios as well,
Speaker 1: team by team review yesterday right here on the Numbers
Speaker 1: game at Visa. Welcome back to a Numbers game with
Speaker 1: Jill Alexander. Back on the Numbers game. As the man said, Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm just going through Chris of songs here. I don't know.
Speaker 1: What's my favorite of all time? Jeff, you ask I
Speaker 1: don't know. You asked this, Donny Hathaway, this Christmas, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Temptations, Silentine, Maria carry all I want for Christmas?
Speaker 1: You wham last Christmas. I don't know. There's so many
Speaker 1: I love Christmas. I love Christmas songs. You I did,
Speaker 1: I asked the question. You mentioned a few, a few
Speaker 1: gray ones. You mentioned a few gray ones, new edition
Speaker 1: Christmas all over the world, just so many of them,
Speaker 1: A lot of good ones. All I'm doing the rest
Speaker 1: of the day Christmas songs, the rest of the day.
Speaker 1: All right. We got more football games to get to, Chrissie.
Speaker 1: Oh no, Jeff, what's next? I'm sorry, ten am gotta
Speaker 1: rejigger these two left, two early games left. Gil will
Speaker 1: go to a Fox Burro for Miami at New England.
Speaker 1: You know the Dolphins have won four times in the
Speaker 1: last eight game. How about that? Good? Good for you,
Speaker 1: Brian Flores. As we mentioned with the Bengals and the
Speaker 1: Dolphins yesterday, and yes, Todd had it in game on
Speaker 1: the Dolphin SPI is three and app I don't mean
Speaker 1: to laugh I just I want to hug Todd when
Speaker 1: this happens to him. The Bengals cut the deficit. They
Speaker 1: were down twenty three thirty five to twelve. They cut
Speaker 1: the deficit to thirty five twenty seven with twenty nine
Speaker 1: seconds left on Dalton's touchdown past another two point conversion.
Speaker 1: So they scored seven, then they scored eight. Then they
Speaker 1: go on sidekick. They recover that they reached the twenty
Speaker 1: five yard line with four seconds left, and Miami drops
Speaker 1: eight defenders back to the goal line. Tyler Eiffert reaches
Speaker 1: above two of those eight defenders in the end zone
Speaker 1: to catch Dalton's throw, and then Dalton runs in what
Speaker 1: he couldn't find an open receiver. He runs in the
Speaker 1: two point conversion to tie it. Dolphins do end up
Speaker 1: winning in overtime, by the way, it was punt punt, punt, punt,
Speaker 1: and then the Dolphins on the final drive like make
Speaker 1: one play and they get the field goal in the
Speaker 1: closing seconds of overtime. But Ryan Fitzpatrick fifty two, four touchdowns,
Speaker 1: one pick, two sacks, another four touchdown game for Ryan Fitzpatrick,
Speaker 1: five hundred two yards of total offense for the Dolphins
Speaker 1: against four thirty for the Bengals. Um just another amazing
Speaker 1: outcome for Betters Um poor Todd with the end game.
Speaker 1: Then there's New England. New England beats Buffalo on Saturday.
Speaker 1: They clinched their eleventh straight a f C East title.
Speaker 1: They will clinch a first round by with a win
Speaker 1: in this game or a Kansas City loss next week.
Speaker 1: That's the New England Patriot story. So as bad in quotes,
Speaker 1: as relatively bad by Patriot standards, this season was in
Speaker 1: terms of the tough nature of it without the offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: with Brady not having weapons, with Tom Brady no longer
Speaker 1: being Tom Brady here, they are set up still for
Speaker 1: a first round by, and they're gonna be huge favorites
Speaker 1: in this game. Brady, by the way, against the Bills,
Speaker 1: thirty two and three straight up? Is that good? Thirty
Speaker 1: two and three straight up against the Bills, they had
Speaker 1: a four to sixty eight advantage in total yards versus
Speaker 1: Buffalo and possessed the ball for almost thirty nine minutes
Speaker 1: of the sixty minute affair with Buffalo. I'll say New
Speaker 1: England by more than two touchdowns, though here against the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: I'll say New England minus fourteen and a half. Grissie,
Speaker 1: you're a tad light. I see you see fifteen and
Speaker 1: a half, also see sixteen and a half. But sixteen
Speaker 1: is a predominant number. I think that's I think it's okay,
Speaker 1: but I also think I might be a little bit high.
Speaker 1: You know, Miami has shown an awful lot of courage
Speaker 1: throughout this with you know, very limited talent. Fitzpatrick. You
Speaker 1: know when they when we write the requiem for his career,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be very interesting on how we look at
Speaker 1: it because there's made a ton of money. He had
Speaker 1: some great numbers for some bad teams. But this new
Speaker 1: England team reminds me very much of the Denver team
Speaker 1: that won the Super Bowl with Peyton Manning on his
Speaker 1: last legs and a great defense. Peyton was a shell
Speaker 1: of himself and they managed to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I gotta say Tom Brady is much better than Peyton
Speaker 1: was that last year. I still pretty remember I think
Speaker 1: that was the best game of the year the other day.
Speaker 1: Does that mean anything, I'm not sure, but it was
Speaker 1: his best game of the year. So I'm gonna open
Speaker 1: sixteen again the be very conservad this week. I don't
Speaker 1: want to take too many chances and took backspace for
Speaker 1: a minute. Mike Quinnella for the two best Christmas songs
Speaker 1: Andy Williams the most Wonderful Time in a year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and Tony Bennett. Uh my favorite thing and I'm
Speaker 1: not even sure right that's a Christmas song, but it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my two all times. My favorite thing is a classic,
Speaker 1: no question about it. Yeah, my mind skewed a little.
Speaker 1: Nineties are ambition a little ladies. I understand different eras,
Speaker 1: but but that's the beauty. That's the beauty of Christmas
Speaker 1: songs what it is. Yeah, Jeff is gonna give me
Speaker 1: some hip hop Christmas jam from Oh no, No one's
Speaker 1: mentioned silver bells, which is great. Oh my goodness, Okay,
Speaker 1: Um yeah, Tom Brady by the way, twenty six and
Speaker 1: thirty three for two seventy one one touchdown, no picks
Speaker 1: in that game. Um, and New England. Again they can't
Speaker 1: get the number one seed because Baltimore clinched that, but
Speaker 1: again they can get a buy with a win or
Speaker 1: a casey lost. That's the other name of this season. Again.
Speaker 1: This is such a weird NFL season, just not only
Speaker 1: from a betting perspective. But I mentioned that thing about
Speaker 1: the Dolphins eight guys back, and and somehow Cincinnati was
Speaker 1: still label to score. How about at the end of
Speaker 1: the first half of your Jets Steelers game, Jeff, the
Speaker 1: Jets are winning ten to three UM and uh at
Speaker 1: that time it was Duck Hodges who had the ball.
Speaker 1: It was it was it was Mason Rudolf by then,
Speaker 1: so Hodges had been benched. It was Mason Rudolph, and
Speaker 1: the Jets instead of just playing back, decided to blitz
Speaker 1: Rudolph on third on third day or whatever was on
Speaker 1: one down, and they go into man coverage with the
Speaker 1: blitz and he almost gets a touchdown pass. And the
Speaker 1: Jets are like, well, you know that didn't that didn't
Speaker 1: go as poorly as we thought. Let's do it again.
Speaker 1: And they do the same thing. They like blitz him
Speaker 1: and and they get touchdown pass over the top, like
Speaker 1: what are you doing? We There's so many examples of
Speaker 1: that this year. The most egregious. Remember that the famous
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Miami game with the with the worst guests of
Speaker 1: all time on guessing lines in guessing lines history. The
Speaker 1: end of that first half, right when the Steelers just
Speaker 1: played this bizarro d against the or the other way
Speaker 1: around Dolphins against third and twenty and it turned into
Speaker 1: a six d R touchdown. The Steelers do Jedi mind
Speaker 1: tricks against their opponents at the end of first has
Speaker 1: is the weirdest thing anyway, there's littered The NFL season
Speaker 1: is littered with that example. Let's do one more, Jeff, Oh,
Speaker 1: I know you love this one. Gilty Los Angeles Chargers
Speaker 1: of nowhere at the Kansas City Chiefs. All right, we
Speaker 1: got to talk about the Charges for one last second
Speaker 1: this year because I know this game meant nothing. They
Speaker 1: lose to the Raiders yesterday. Do the Chargers they lose
Speaker 1: four to seventeen as seven point favorites. Uh, Philip Rivers,
Speaker 1: you look at his statutes seven thirty nine for two
Speaker 1: seventy nine. Just don't even worry about it. It does not,
Speaker 1: it's not doesn't indicate how bad the Charges were. End
Speaker 1: of the first half, the Chargers are down seven and nothing.
Speaker 1: It's north of the two minute warning, so it's so
Speaker 1: it's more than two minutes left. Instead of milking it
Speaker 1: to the two met they're already in the red zone.
Speaker 1: Instead of milking it to the two minute warning, and
Speaker 1: then taking plays on the south side, if you will,
Speaker 1: with with less than two minutes left, to ensure that
Speaker 1: even if they do score, the Raiders will have as
Speaker 1: little time as possible. The Philip Rivers rushes to do
Speaker 1: a play before the two minute warning, and the Chargers
Speaker 1: do end up scoring right after the uh the two
Speaker 1: minute warning because there was a flag in the end zone. Anyway,
Speaker 1: the Raiders get the ball back with like one fifty
Speaker 1: something left in the in the half, and so the
Speaker 1: announcers are all over that, and they're very proud of
Speaker 1: themselves for pointing this out. But then the announcers mentioned
Speaker 1: nothing when the Chargers do something far more egregious. It's
Speaker 1: fourth and two for the Raiders at the Chargers forty
Speaker 1: two with one oh three left and a half, and
Speaker 1: the Chargers, if they don't use the time out there
Speaker 1: it's the standoff where neither team uses the time out,
Speaker 1: the clock will run down and the Raiders will punt.
Speaker 1: But instead the Chargers, in their infinite wisdom, oh, we
Speaker 1: gotta call a time out here. We want to get
Speaker 1: that ball back, And the announcers even commend them for it.
Speaker 1: Absolutely wrong thing to do fourth and two. It the
Speaker 1: ar are just forty two. Of course they get it.
Speaker 1: They stop the clock for the Raiders. Of course the
Speaker 1: Raiders get it. They matriculate, it's fourteen to seven at
Speaker 1: a half. They do that thing where they get the
Speaker 1: ball back first, the Raiders do at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the second half. That was the entire game. Anthony Lennon staff,
Speaker 1: don't I have no idea what they're doing from week
Speaker 1: to week. And by the way, the difference between Philip
Speaker 1: Rivers and Tom Brady, besides everything could be seen this weekend.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady makes a huge block on a play. Philip
Speaker 1: Rivers decides to punt on a block he could have
Speaker 1: sprung Austin Ekeler for a fifteen yard pickup on a
Speaker 1: on a pass, excuse me, on a run? Instead, he
Speaker 1: uh decides, makes a business decision, decides not to block,
Speaker 1: and then feign's a thumb injury. That guy's a Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer. By the way, Philip Rivers after the game,
Speaker 1: I still feel like I can contribute at this level. Well,
Speaker 1: what the what level is that? The level where you're
Speaker 1: not even blocking anyway, Chiefs will be ten point favorites. Man,
Speaker 1: I like your number way better. What's the number seven
Speaker 1: and a half, you know, Yeah, I don't know. Why
Speaker 1: would that only be seven and a half? Give me
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. That's the first one I love. I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I like the Chiefs too. By let's
Speaker 1: back up a couple of seconds here. Who were the
Speaker 1: announcers in that game? Was it Gannon? Was Rich Cannon?
Speaker 1: One of them knew? Who was it? Jeff? Do you remember?
Speaker 1: I want to say it was Gumble and Green? I
Speaker 1: want to I think it was that. I'll double check that, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: geez oh man, that's you know, what the hell? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Hall of Famer Philip Rivers and we
Speaker 1: tend to, you know, compare him with Eli Man, and
Speaker 1: I like, it's strictly personal for me. I like Eli
Speaker 1: just because you beat the Patriots twice, you know, But
Speaker 1: he probably doesn't quote unquote deserve to be in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. There's always still a Rivers deserves to
Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame. Either forget about it, Creek,
Speaker 1: But boy, I love the way this Kansas City King's
Speaker 1: playing right now. And uh, I know Baltimore is gonna
Speaker 1: be a tough out. New England is gonna be a
Speaker 1: tough out. You know, there's always a surprise or two
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I get that. Right now. Is anybody
Speaker 1: playing better in Kansas City? I'm saying, I don't know
Speaker 1: their defense. Their defense has come alive. Um, they've had
Speaker 1: the talent on defense, but you know they really haven't.
Speaker 1: They haven't jelled, but they kind of have now. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, listen, they don't get a home
Speaker 1: field if they don't got to buy the first round. Obviously,
Speaker 1: it makes a lot tougher going to get an extra game.
Speaker 1: They don't get the rest. Is there anybody playing better
Speaker 1: in Kansas City right now? I don't know. I've said
Speaker 1: it's party for weeks now, sneaky team from the back.
Speaker 1: We'll come back. We'll wrap up the hour here guessing
Speaker 1: lines for Week seventeen on the Numbers game right here
Speaker 1: at Basing the Sports Betting Network. Welcome back to a
Speaker 1: Numbers game with Jill Alexander. We were saying before the
Speaker 1: show that Cincinnati Miami ending. It was those who had
Speaker 1: Cincinnati pre flop. It was that typical thing were like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, if we score here, uh, and then we
Speaker 1: make a stop and then we get the ball back
Speaker 1: and then we score and we get to you know,
Speaker 1: then we recover the onside kick and then we score,
Speaker 1: then we get another two. It's a tie game right there.
Speaker 1: And it happened, and it actually happened, and they still lost.
Speaker 1: It was just phenomenal. Oh my god, Todd still had
Speaker 1: in Miami. Mina. Uh last thing about Kansas City against
Speaker 1: the Chargers. Kansas City twice as many yards as the
Speaker 1: Bears last night at halftime, two or three to ninety three,
Speaker 1: six for eleven on third downs. I mean that game
Speaker 1: was over at half. Chiefs of outscored Denver in Chicago
Speaker 1: now by a combined forty nine to six the past
Speaker 1: two weeks. They are the sticky team. So so Chris,
Speaker 1: just real quick in ten seconds, just to clarify, I
Speaker 1: guess ten, but you're putting it up at what eight? Eight?
Speaker 1: But it's seven and a half everywhere. But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: use eight and you like my number better. How is
Speaker 1: that home? She's the Chargers. They are they are already
Speaker 1: on vacation. They are already on vacation. The Charges. That
Speaker 1: was just pathetic yesterday. And it was Greg Gumbel and
Speaker 1: Trent Green who were busy congratulating themselves from making the
Speaker 1: point about doing stuff on on the on the wrong
Speaker 1: side of the two minute warning, but come completely didn't
Speaker 1: say anything about the charges taking that egregious time out,
Speaker 1: which basically ended up resulting in the four seven lead.
Speaker 1: Thereafter for the for the Raiders coming Back, we'll continue
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Speaker 1: National Football League, Guessing lines. Squirrelly week is what it is.
Speaker 1: Skill Alexander producing number five. Jeff Parlay is here, as
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Speaker 1: So now, Jeff, we already are in the afternoon games. Yes,
Speaker 1: we're now there. We have to open the show. The
Speaker 1: Titans and the Texas, the one that we already did
Speaker 1: that as a four East Pacific start. That is the
Speaker 1: one really, that is the one that means the most
Speaker 1: of all of the Titans win. And again what we
Speaker 1: are what we have have noted, is that they have
Speaker 1: legislated correlated parleys out. So the big thing with Week
Speaker 1: seventeen used to be, oh wow, this game is at
Speaker 1: one o'clock. This game is at four o'clock using the
Speaker 1: Eastern time zone times. Based on the result of that
Speaker 1: one o'clock game, we could actually make we could actually
Speaker 1: have an edge in the four o'clock game because of
Speaker 1: that game all of a sudden renders meaningless or renders
Speaker 1: meaning full. There's an edge there. Well, that doesn't happen anymore.
Speaker 1: So Tennessee Houston is now in this new window we've
Speaker 1: already talked about at four o'clock, and so the the
Speaker 1: related game. Pittsburgh is also in this window, for instance,
Speaker 1: much like Philly and Dallas are in this window together,
Speaker 1: not at different times, but instead concurrent. What's the next game?
Speaker 1: All well, started with what you just mentioned, the Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: Steelers at the Baltimore Ravens. All right, let's do that.
Speaker 1: Baltimore first round by throughout the a f C playoffs.
Speaker 1: That's what Baltimore earned yesterday with their win, first time
Speaker 1: ever that franchise has ever done that. Baltimore's went over Cleveland.
Speaker 1: It's their eleventh win in a row. Lamar Jackson twenty
Speaker 1: thirty one for two thirty eight, three touchdowns, no picks,
Speaker 1: never sacked, seventeen carries for one oh three. Is that good?
Speaker 1: Thirty six touchdown passes on the year with just six
Speaker 1: picks for Lamar Jackson. Just don't get hurt man, just
Speaker 1: stay healthy. It's all Baltimore Ravens fans one and the
Speaker 1: real issue with the Ravens one total yards yesterday, seven
Speaker 1: of eleven on third downs. Mark Andrews was was Lamar's
Speaker 1: favorite target. Six catches, nine two touchdowns. But mark Ingram
Speaker 1: goes down yesterday without being touched in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: He immediately grabbed his lower left leg collapsed when he
Speaker 1: tried to stand undergoing testing today. Jim excuse me, John
Speaker 1: Harbaugh saying it is he doesn't believe it to be serious,
Speaker 1: but they will go through testing today with with Ingram. Baltimore, therefore,
Speaker 1: Ergo has nothing to play for in this game. They
Speaker 1: can sid everybody if they want, they probably should. Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: on the other hand, different story. They entered yesterday's game
Speaker 1: against the Jets, which you already mentioned. The Jets won
Speaker 1: sixteen to ten despite their best efforts to batch it. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Jets beat the Steelers and so Steelers entered that
Speaker 1: game with their playoff destiny in their own hands. Now
Speaker 1: with that lost no longer the case, now for the
Speaker 1: Steelers to clinch a playoff birth, they gotta win this
Speaker 1: game against Baltimore. Again, Baltimore may not play anybody, but
Speaker 1: r G three is somebody. Don't you ever forget it? Uh?
Speaker 1: And then Tennessee would have to lose, so clinch playoff
Speaker 1: berth for Pittsburgh. They'd have to win this game against
Speaker 1: Baltimore and then Tennessee would have to lose, or other
Speaker 1: scenario Tennessee and Oakland would Uh. Let's see a Tennessee
Speaker 1: in Oakland loss and an Indie win if Pittsburgh loose loses.
Speaker 1: This is that correct? I think that I don't know
Speaker 1: that's there. So there's another scenario. So the most easy
Speaker 1: scenario for Pittsburgh is a win and a Tennessee loss.
Speaker 1: But if they lose and Tennessee and Oakland losing Indie wins.
Speaker 1: I think that's the back doorway for Pittsburgh get in.
Speaker 1: So there is one scenario where they could lose and
Speaker 1: still get in, but again, the easier way is just
Speaker 1: to win into Tennessee loss. Uh, Pittsburgh, they had they
Speaker 1: started a devil and Hodges yesterday he got benched, Mason
Speaker 1: Rudolph came in and Mason Rudolph got hurt. Duck Hodges
Speaker 1: had to come back in the game. Uh. Five points,
Speaker 1: one turnover on downs on six second half possessions for
Speaker 1: the Steelers yesterday. By the way, James Conner, Marquise Pouncey
Speaker 1: in addition to Rudolph all leaving the game with injuries.
Speaker 1: All three of will be evaluated and their availability for
Speaker 1: this game against the Ravens is uncertain. So you put
Speaker 1: all that in the mix. Steelers players that might not
Speaker 1: play Ravens got nothing to play for Chrisy. It's a pickum, right,
Speaker 1: can't be anything else. I see Baltimore one and one
Speaker 1: and a half. I guess I kind of like I
Speaker 1: kind of like the one and a half better. We're
Speaker 1: probably talking about insignificant numbers here as far as you know,
Speaker 1: determining the winner. But Pittsburgh just has so many injuries,
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean, you know, one of the guys,
Speaker 1: who was it? I can't think. One of the ESPN
Speaker 1: guys tweeted out yesterday, how is Pittsburgh won eight games
Speaker 1: this year? It may kind a quarterback play and it
Speaker 1: really is, you know that besides the quarterback plays that
Speaker 1: everything else they had a million injuries. Defense is great, though,
Speaker 1: I mean what things they about their defense? Uh? They
Speaker 1: didn't let him down yesterday. It was really the offense
Speaker 1: was just terrible. How many of it was one and
Speaker 1: a half. I just think there's enough, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know Baltimore has nothing to play for, but yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there's that's a there's a pretty big rivalry. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of hacred between these two teams. And I
Speaker 1: need Baltimore will show up. And I'm not sure who's
Speaker 1: going to be a quarterback. You know, Blue Martin actually
Speaker 1: ran the ball one time. I'd yank him out of
Speaker 1: the game. Uh, I don't think, you know, it's none,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't I don't know if if he's
Speaker 1: a player or not. England I think doubtful at this point. Uh, anyway,
Speaker 1: I'd have to go with one and a half. I
Speaker 1: just think they have enough to probably beat Pittsburgh in
Speaker 1: this spot, regardless of who plays who doesn't play. All Right, again,
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh win in the Tennessee lost there in, or
Speaker 1: if they lose but Tennessee and Oakland also lose, an
Speaker 1: Indie wins, Pittsburgh finds their way in. So there's a
Speaker 1: couple a couple of ways for them to get in,
Speaker 1: all right. Next one, Jeffrey the Indianapolis Colts at the
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. As I mentioned, the Colts can't make the playoffs,
Speaker 1: but they the result of this game against Jacksonville matters
Speaker 1: a lot to a lot of other teams or potentially could. Colts,
Speaker 1: as we mentioned, crushed Carolina yesterday thirty eight to six
Speaker 1: as seven point favorites. Um, you know they're going with
Speaker 1: Jacobe Brissette moving forward because he's under contract for one
Speaker 1: more year, but also sated that they're going to address
Speaker 1: the quarterback UH position at the same time, So it's
Speaker 1: a very lukewarm endorsement of Brissette moving forward. Indie was
Speaker 1: plus three in turnovers in that game, but as I mentioned,
Speaker 1: Naim Nahim Hines three punt returns for one hundred ninety
Speaker 1: five yards, including two touchdowns. By the way, his third
Speaker 1: one set up a third touchdown with another long return
Speaker 1: four plays into the game. And Jacksonville, well, he just
Speaker 1: playing out the string. They got beat yesterday to twelve.
Speaker 1: Seven straight games now for the Jaguars with twenty points
Speaker 1: or fewer. Seven straight games with twenty points or fewer.
Speaker 1: The Jags have lost six of seven and twenty games
Speaker 1: of twenty seven. They've lost twenty of twenty seven. Chris
Speaker 1: since they started three and one at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen season, which you remember came right after
Speaker 1: they got all the way to the a f C Championship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that was it. Three and one after that, and
Speaker 1: they can't win football games since. Um, I'll say Indie
Speaker 1: minus four on the road, I guess, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: three and half. I see one four. But from bookmaker
Speaker 1: I got and out said I respect highly, I'm open
Speaker 1: three and a half. Um, you know, again, trying to
Speaker 1: be really conservative this week. But we used to joke
Speaker 1: for years, you got your wives that card taken away
Speaker 1: from the you know, like jackson go every single week
Speaker 1: and that boy, they've really really gone south. But you're
Speaker 1: talking about the Colts. Where mentioned TOBR a couple of times.
Speaker 1: Here's one for Brissette is passer rating sixty three point seven,
Speaker 1: so pretty bad, q b R eighty nine point four. Either,
Speaker 1: just a mystery to me. You know, I don't know
Speaker 1: where they come up with these numbers, you know, but
Speaker 1: we gotta explain it to us. Yeah, yeah, you know, God,
Speaker 1: I don't know where they come up with these numbers.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I think three naps okay, I mean, you
Speaker 1: know Jacksonville, you know, maybe they show up at home
Speaker 1: the last game. I don't know, you know, anyway, three
Speaker 1: naps one okay. By the way, I buried the headline,
Speaker 1: chriss He's got a new story time coming up on
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Speaker 1: I had I didn't know how this week was gonna
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Speaker 1: my head before Hidcide get them straight and had one off.
Speaker 1: I have one queue up in case we have time
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Speaker 1: I spent things, spent things up all right, jeff what's next?
Speaker 1: Raiders at Broncos, Raiders at Broncos Raiders. Here's the thing
Speaker 1: with the Raiders there seven and eight, and somehow there
Speaker 1: is a scenario where they can make the playoffs. So
Speaker 1: after losses by Pittsburgh, Tennessee and Cleveland yesterday and in
Speaker 1: Oakland win, they're still alive. Here's how the Oakland Raiders
Speaker 1: can make the playoffs at eight and eight. First, of course,
Speaker 1: they'd have to win against Denver here to go eight
Speaker 1: and eight. Then again, Indie would have to win the Colts,
Speaker 1: who aren't playing for anything. They can't get themselves. But
Speaker 1: for the Raiders to get in, they've got to get
Speaker 1: the Colts to get to eight and eate. Also, then
Speaker 1: on top of that, they need losses by Tennessee in Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: which would bring Tennessee in Pittsburgh back down a nate.
Speaker 1: And then Oakland would win on something called strength of
Speaker 1: victory versus Pittsburgh, not strength of schedule anymore, Jeffrey, strength
Speaker 1: of victory versus Pittsburgh. So four things must happen, and
Speaker 1: then Oakland clinches based on that good luck to you
Speaker 1: OAKLRN Raiders, there's hey, look there's a chance. So you're
Speaker 1: saying there's a chance, by the way, that would create
Speaker 1: a four way tie Oakland win the tiebreaker again based
Speaker 1: on strength of victory Indianapolis. By virtue of its winning
Speaker 1: week four, the Colts would essentially eliminate Tennessee in that
Speaker 1: scenario by having a better division record, So would just
Speaker 1: all fall Oakland's away. Who did get Hunter Renfro back
Speaker 1: in the fold yesterday and he's key for them. Seven
Speaker 1: catches for one oh seven for Renfro in a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Hunter Renfro was saying that was his first a hundred
Speaker 1: receiving yard game and his life, never at Clemson, never
Speaker 1: in high school. Yesterday, Raiders were seven of fourteen on
Speaker 1: third downs that I mentioned when I was talking about
Speaker 1: the Chargers, Anthony lynnon the Chargers and Philip Rivers did
Speaker 1: everything possible to give this game to the Raiders Denver
Speaker 1: be Detroit. We mentioned that Drew Luck or thirty three
Speaker 1: for one two. You know that whole talk about John
Speaker 1: Elway only got Peyton Manning and hasn't been able to
Speaker 1: pick a quarterback. Well, Drew Luck is three and one
Speaker 1: is the Broncos starter. I'm not saying I love him,
Speaker 1: but so far, so good. The only gaming loss was
Speaker 1: that snow game in uh in k C. Lindsay nineteen
Speaker 1: for one on nine and the touchdown for the Broncos yesterday.
Speaker 1: All that said, I think the Broncos will be favored
Speaker 1: and I think will be more than a field. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll say three and a hook for the Broncos. Yo,
Speaker 1: you're dead on uh yeah, three and a half sound good.
Speaker 1: You know I mentioned it before, and it was when
Speaker 1: you're in this bracket, you make a lot of mistakes.
Speaker 1: Scott knows. You're puking every game on the board and
Speaker 1: every sport. I'm really kicking myself in a butt for
Speaker 1: how I handled that charge. Is Oakland game yesterday? I
Speaker 1: love him, come back with way too much on the
Speaker 1: Oakland money line, but kind of fall asleep at the wheel. Anyway,
Speaker 1: this is a terrible game. I don't know. I know
Speaker 1: this is again a game where Denver has not going
Speaker 1: to play for, but they really hate. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of rivalry here going back all the way to the
Speaker 1: AFL days, you know, so Denver certainly be up to
Speaker 1: this game. And Drew Box playing some pretty good football.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. But you know, Oakland wound up.
Speaker 1: They've had some deep trops and some very good games
Speaker 1: and ve been highly highly inconsistent, as you could say
Speaker 1: probably about most of the NFL. But we'll see. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, it's I don't know. We'll see what happens
Speaker 1: in this game. I remember going with three and apt
Speaker 1: seould see what they want to do with that. You
Speaker 1: know what the temperature was at game time in Denver yesterday,
Speaker 1: sixty seven degrees. Sixty seven degrees in Denver yesterday, December.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a lot Vegas. Yeah, it really was um
Speaker 1: so far, then, Kansas City is the one I liked
Speaker 1: the most, right, I had Kansas City minus tenants only
Speaker 1: seven and a half, which I still again, let's do
Speaker 1: one more here for the break completely meaningless game at
Speaker 1: the Colisseum the Cardinals at the Rams, and we don't
Speaker 1: know if Kyler Murray is gonna play either now Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray number oh no, number alright, because he left the
Speaker 1: game yesterday. Arizona's huge win over Seattle, not for Arizona
Speaker 1: but in terms of the implications that had for Seattle
Speaker 1: to their detriment, which we'll get to momentarily after the break.
Speaker 1: But Kyler Murray left in the the third quarter injured
Speaker 1: his hamstring. Never returned. He was eleven of eighteen for
Speaker 1: one eight team Bret Hundley came in for him. Kenyan
Speaker 1: Drake twenty four for one sixties six and two touchdowns
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. What do they do with David Johnson
Speaker 1: at Arizona after this guy doing what he's doing? Um
Speaker 1: see a kind of thing? And the Rams they lost
Speaker 1: to the Niners, really good game on Saturday, but that
Speaker 1: eliminated the Rams, the defending FC West champion Rams who
Speaker 1: got all the way to the Super Bowl loss of
Speaker 1: the Patriots thirteen and three, thirteen to three in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. They're eight and seven. They are done zo.
Speaker 1: And let me just say this about this because Jared
Speaker 1: Goff stats were great three three yards passing and Woods
Speaker 1: emerged as his best receiver all year eight for one
Speaker 1: seventeen in that game. Tyler Higbee in Everett's absence has
Speaker 1: been grade nine for one oh four. But Todd Gurley
Speaker 1: could this be his last game for the Rams because already,
Speaker 1: by the way, he's fifteen two touchdowns in that game
Speaker 1: against the Niners. I've said it many times on this show.
Speaker 1: The Todd Gurley thing has never been truly explained properly.
Speaker 1: Does he have an arthritic n me or does he not?
Speaker 1: Why was he not playing suddenly in the playoffs last year?
Speaker 1: Why is he suddenly playing now? What's going on? And
Speaker 1: they are talking in l A like he will be
Speaker 1: a cap casualty in Los Angeles? So, um, because we
Speaker 1: don't know about Kyler Murray, the Rams have nothing to
Speaker 1: play for and neither team does. I would imagine the
Speaker 1: Rams will be you know, fairly sized favorites in this,
Speaker 1: but again it doesn't We don't know if it's Murray
Speaker 1: or Humble, so you can't really make a number that
Speaker 1: would that would make a big difference. Um. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: saw some seven you know, prior to yesterday, and I
Speaker 1: guess that's okay. But you know, well, again, Murray just
Speaker 1: means someone, I mean Hundley. I know they actually played
Speaker 1: well yesterday, but you know, playing well in a substituted
Speaker 1: role versus preparing all week could play is totally different.
Speaker 1: If it's obviously makes a huge different. Yeah, if it's
Speaker 1: Murray at seven, But if it's humbly. It's got to
Speaker 1: be higher than that, right, got to be ten. I
Speaker 1: would say, yeah, I would think three more games to
Speaker 1: get to Jeff, all right, we'll do two more afternoon games.
Speaker 1: I know, uh, Philly and Dallas have to be those.
Speaker 1: And then of course the Flex game, which is San
Speaker 1: Francisco and Seattle, which controls so much of what's going
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Speaker 1: to all, happy holidays, beautiful time of year. Everybody's nice
Speaker 1: to each other. Who didn't love Christmas? Jeff? Who? Who
Speaker 1: is there a scrooge amongst us? JT in the corner?
Speaker 1: What's wrong with you? J T? That's wrong with that guy?
Speaker 1: We'll have to talk after the show. Three more games
Speaker 1: you get too and then story time. Two more afternoon
Speaker 1: games and at all is about the NFC East. What
Speaker 1: you got, Jeff, there we go didn't look good for
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins leaving yesterday. So who knows who's playing quarterback
Speaker 1: for Washington at Dallas. Well, let's start with the Redskins,
Speaker 1: and the Washington Redskins win in quotes quote unquote win
Speaker 1: the Chase Young Bowl yesterday by eventually losing to the
Speaker 1: New York Giants in overtime forty one to thirty five.
Speaker 1: The Giants were just the tick of a favorite in
Speaker 1: that ballgame case. Kingdom tried his best not to give
Speaker 1: the Redskins Chase Young. So with the Redskins loss essentially
Speaker 1: gives them, puts them in the driver's seat, if you will,
Speaker 1: for the number two pick in the draft, if you
Speaker 1: assumed Ohio, if you assume Joe Ohio born Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: is going to go to Cincinnata, who already was benching
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton for much of this year, to figure out
Speaker 1: what they had behind him. So they go Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: with Ohio born Joe Burrow. The Redskins gonna go Chase
Speaker 1: Young with the d C kid who went to De
Speaker 1: Matha High School. So you have some regional players going
Speaker 1: to the teams of their youth. I don't know if
Speaker 1: Cincinnati was Joe Burrow's team of the youth, but still
Speaker 1: the same state. Um so case Keenum yesterday comes in
Speaker 1: for Dwayne Haskins. He was sixteen of twenty two for
Speaker 1: one fifty eight, including rushing in for the tying score
Speaker 1: with twenty nine seconds left after leading the Redskins on
Speaker 1: a ninety nine yard drive. As soon as Keenum got
Speaker 1: in the game, I was like, oh no, there goes
Speaker 1: Chase Young. But it did work out. Dwayne Haskins, by
Speaker 1: the way, twelve of fifteen for one thirty three, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picks. Redskins gotta be a little bit encouraged by
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins down the stretch. Interesting thing about that game
Speaker 1: for those who who are like think I overdo the
Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder thing as a guy who grew up a
Speaker 1: Redskin fan, who there was nothing more important to me
Speaker 1: as a kid than the Red than the roshing the Redskins,
Speaker 1: and then as an adult, I've got this horrific owner
Speaker 1: that is a life sentence to deal with. And one
Speaker 1: of the things I said is Daniel Snyder just wants
Speaker 1: to be boys. He wants to be buddies with the players, right.
Speaker 1: He wanted to be r G three's friend, desperately. He
Speaker 1: wanted to be Clinton Portis his friend desperately. Well, you
Speaker 1: know what Dwayne Haskins said after that game. He said, um,
Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder encouraged him to listen to medical advice not
Speaker 1: go back in the game. Quote. I tried to go
Speaker 1: back in, but he wouldn't let me, Haskin said. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: So Daniel Snyder said, you know you're not going back
Speaker 1: in the game. Don't please don't, My buddy, my boy,
Speaker 1: my friend. Terry McLaurin got hurt late, seven catches for
Speaker 1: eighty six. Not sure what his status will be in
Speaker 1: this game. Um Bill Callahan though, deciding not to go
Speaker 1: for two after that Keenom touchdown, which, for those of
Speaker 1: us who wanted Chase Young or a shout at Chase
Speaker 1: Young again, Redskins woud still have to lose this game
Speaker 1: at Dallas. But I was thrilled when he decided to
Speaker 1: kick the game tying extra point and not go for two,
Speaker 1: because I was like, oh, you're gonna ruin this extra point? Wonderful,
Speaker 1: So that was fun. Dallas, though, is a whole another
Speaker 1: story everybody. Dallas goes into Philly yesterday and gets beat
Speaker 1: by a skeletal version of the Philadelphia Eagles. Dallas still
Speaker 1: can win the NFC East. And by the way, let
Speaker 1: me just say this, Jeffrey, you may disagree with me.
Speaker 1: I actually think they still could win this Dallas. I
Speaker 1: really do, because we're gonna get to the Philly game.
Speaker 1: They're playing the Giants. I think the Giants are live
Speaker 1: in that game. But Dallas, they get beat. Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: was forty four. He wasn't particularly good. Zeke was held
Speaker 1: to forty seven yards. Amari Cooper had four catches. All
Speaker 1: these guys like just nothing. Philadelphia's defense absolutely dominated them.
Speaker 1: They were out time of possession if you will. Where
Speaker 1: the Cowboys thirty to twenty three oh seven. And Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett excuse me, the shots of Jason Garrett. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure he was alive on the sidelines. This is Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett after the game quote. We all have to own it. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: we don't control our destiny anymore, but we control our
Speaker 1: opportunity next week at Washington. Spoken like a man who
Speaker 1: might not have a pulse. Dallas by nine and a half, Chris, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're a little light. Um, I think ten and a
Speaker 1: half and eleven. I'm gonna go with the ten and
Speaker 1: a half. I think Dallas, you know, jeez, they just
Speaker 1: they they do everything wrong. I mean, you know, just
Speaker 1: some teams do a lot of things right and looking
Speaker 1: like at the Buffalo Bills, you know, teams like that,
Speaker 1: you know the New England. We all know that the
Speaker 1: Dallas does everything wrong. They have all the right pieces
Speaker 1: and just can't put it together properly. And starts with
Speaker 1: the head coach, starts with the owner, really does starts
Speaker 1: with the owner. Uh, he's gonna want to coach. I
Speaker 1: know he wants to, you know, a headline coach. But
Speaker 1: I mean was gonna come in there and you know,
Speaker 1: play second fiddle to Jerry Jones. I mean they're talking
Speaker 1: about you know, Urban Meyer, maybe you know, uh Lincoln Riley.
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys will be nuts to go to Dallas,
Speaker 1: but you know that's that's kind of what your guts. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with ten and a half. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll probably beat him. I'll probably win by
Speaker 1: a million, but uh, watching that that defense is so bad,
Speaker 1: so holy cow, there ter make it. I make it
Speaker 1: nine and a half. Though as a case Keenum discanam
Speaker 1: case Keenum plays, I think it should be less than ten.
Speaker 1: That would be my only thing, not that I'm rushing
Speaker 1: to bet, and that that's where the discin is. Philly's next, then,
Speaker 1: Jeff Philadelphia, the Giants, Philadelphia, the Giants, Giants beat the Redskins. Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: as we mentioned, just beat Dallas. Uh So, Philadelphia wins
Speaker 1: the East if they win this game against the Giants. However,
Speaker 1: if they lose in Dallas beats the Redskins, it's Dallas
Speaker 1: who would get in at eight and eight and would
Speaker 1: host who knows in the first round of the playoffs,
Speaker 1: maybe Seattle, which which might they might even be favored
Speaker 1: in if Seattle has no players. We'll get to that momentarily.
Speaker 1: Excuse me. Troy Aikman's quote, Philadelphia beats Dallas yesterday seventeen
Speaker 1: and nine. Troy Aikman's quote quote, maybe the best team
Speaker 1: win I've ever seen, given the stakes. Unquote. That's what
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman said. Now, Parlay, you're you're saying that's incredulous.
Speaker 1: What he means is not only the stakes, but the
Speaker 1: fact of all that all those injuries they had right
Speaker 1: because Jordan Howard out with the shoulder, Nelson aghaloor knee,
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson there standout tackle with an ankle already on.
Speaker 1: I are Darren Sprawls to Shawn Jackson, al Shan Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Malik Jackson, and yet Carson Wentz in the Eagles thirty
Speaker 1: of thirty nine, three thirteen, one touchdown, one pick sacked once,
Speaker 1: Miles Sanders twenty seventy nine for a touchdown on the ground,
Speaker 1: five receptions for seventy seven yards, a hundred fifty six
Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage after a one seventy two yard from
Speaker 1: scrimmage game last week versus the Skins, and really the
Speaker 1: only thing that kept the cow Boys in that game
Speaker 1: was Doug Peterson's ridiculous decisions. At the end of the
Speaker 1: first half, um they decide up ten to three, they
Speaker 1: have the ball fourth and six of the Dallas thirty
Speaker 1: five with thirty four seconds left, and he decides to
Speaker 1: try a fifty three yarder, which is like the last
Speaker 1: thing you should be doing when you're dominating. Of course,
Speaker 1: Elliott misses that and the Cowboys in matriculate get a
Speaker 1: field goal of their own take a ten to six
Speaker 1: into the half, then up seventeen to six, fourth and
Speaker 1: five of the Dallas thirty seven. With just under eleven
Speaker 1: minutes left in the game, they decide, I don't know,
Speaker 1: why don't we kick a fifty five yarder and Jake
Speaker 1: Elliott misses that Dallas matriculates gets a field goal. So
Speaker 1: two thirds of Dallas points based on really bad decisions
Speaker 1: by Doug Peterson and Eagles to try really long field goals,
Speaker 1: Like what are you doing? Are you trying to let
Speaker 1: them back in this game? Five hundred fifty two total
Speaker 1: yards of offense for the Giants. By the way, in
Speaker 1: their win against the Redskins yesterday, Daniel Jones five touchdown passes.
Speaker 1: Only Matt Stafford and Daniel Jones now the only rookie
Speaker 1: Qbastan's nineteen fifty to throw for three hundred plus yards
Speaker 1: and five plus touchdowns in a game. Levin play sixty
Speaker 1: six yard drive and ot to salvage the victory for
Speaker 1: the Giants. Sa Kwan twenty two of one eighty nine
Speaker 1: and a touchdown on the ground. He had a hundred
Speaker 1: and eight yards on his first four carries, two hundred
Speaker 1: seventy nine total yards one nine rushing and ninety receiving
Speaker 1: and a score each way for sake, Kuan, unbelievable. I
Speaker 1: think the Giants are live here. I would only make
Speaker 1: the Eagles three point favorites, and I would imagine I'm
Speaker 1: going to be light on that, Chris, Oh yeah, you're
Speaker 1: very light. It's four and a half and five. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with the four and a half. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: he talked about Barkley had a big game. Center Miles Sanders,
Speaker 1: one of the guys for Philadelphia who was Barkley's backup
Speaker 1: mostly at Penn State un his final year, but he
Speaker 1: had a terrific game himself. And I'm glad you mentioned
Speaker 1: that Daniel Jones status and that's really remarkable, you know.
Speaker 1: And me, along with everybody else in the world, had
Speaker 1: plenty of question marks about this kid being drafted so highly,
Speaker 1: but well, I'll tell you what future is kind of
Speaker 1: bright for him. Certainly. I don't know what the Giants
Speaker 1: are gonna do as an organization with their coaching decision.
Speaker 1: I think they probably make a move, but you know,
Speaker 1: I think with the in the right hands, I think
Speaker 1: Jones can really be good in Philadelphia. And we talked
Speaker 1: about Carson Wentz before where you had put him in
Speaker 1: that top category and then removed them. But yesterday I
Speaker 1: think he really played well. And again I'm looking at
Speaker 1: to be on sixty one point one, which I thought
Speaker 1: it would be like in the nineties. I thought he
Speaker 1: played great. Um, But you know, especially with what you
Speaker 1: mentioned the skeletal team of of players for Philadelphia, so
Speaker 1: I may go four and a half. I think the
Speaker 1: Giants are pretty live, but I do see some fives
Speaker 1: out there. I'm gonna four and a half. I think
Speaker 1: that's that's playing in this game. And you know, I
Speaker 1: mean says how crazy this league is. The Cowboys certainly
Speaker 1: could win host and be favored and beat whoever they play,
Speaker 1: and exactly think about this world is that's how nuts
Speaker 1: this world is. The Cowboys at seven and eight, it
Speaker 1: is not outlandish for them to win this division because
Speaker 1: I don't think it's atlantis. For the Giants to win
Speaker 1: this game against the Eagles, and then they could be
Speaker 1: favored in that game. We thought, oh I got a
Speaker 1: thirteen and three Niners were coming. They could get a
Speaker 1: absolutely skeletaled Seahawks team, perhaps a lot of ifs in there,
Speaker 1: and then could be favored. Yes, so we're at the
Speaker 1: final game. Let's do the final game here and we'll
Speaker 1: let Chrissy get the storytime after the break, Jeff. Game
Speaker 1: number two fifty six. There it is in football, the
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty niners against the Seattle Seahawks or whatever
Speaker 1: remains of the Seattle Seahawks. This game was flexed flex
Speaker 1: time to have um that's R and B people out there.
Speaker 1: San Francisco wins this game, clinch home field advantage throughout
Speaker 1: the NFC play. That's the simple thing here. San Francisco
Speaker 1: beats the Rams. They beat him with a heavy heart.
Speaker 1: Third string quarterback C. J. Bethard, younger brother Clayton fatally
Speaker 1: stabbed earlier Saturday in Nashville. Nine ers still managed to
Speaker 1: uh put it together on Saturday and beat the Rams. Uh.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo mostly pedestrian game sack six times, but that
Speaker 1: final drive when they needed him, Emmanuel Sanders blown coverage
Speaker 1: forty six yards down the middle of the field. San
Speaker 1: Francisco had failed on fifty straight third downs of third
Speaker 1: and sixteen or more going all the way back to
Speaker 1: week three and seventeen. That was their first conversion since then.
Speaker 1: On third and sixteen or more. Kittle once again Garoppolo's
Speaker 1: biggest target, five or seventy nine in touchdown Seattle. Here's
Speaker 1: the deal. They lose to the Cardinals, and that was
Speaker 1: bad enough for the Seahawks yesterday. Um, but here's where
Speaker 1: it stands now for the Seahawks, And there's so many
Speaker 1: things to get to with them, and they'll clinch the
Speaker 1: NFC West if they beat the San Francisco forty Niners
Speaker 1: in this game. But because of that loss yesterday, they
Speaker 1: can only guarantee themselves with the win. Even though they'll
Speaker 1: get the NFC West, they can only guarantee themselves as
Speaker 1: high as a number three seed, that is, if they
Speaker 1: don't get help now to get the number one seed. Now,
Speaker 1: the Seahawks could end up one. Jeff and I were
Speaker 1: doing this before the show. They could end up one, three,
Speaker 1: five or six. One two, three. Is there a two? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a two, one, two, three, five or six. Here's
Speaker 1: how they get to one. One of two additional scenarios.
Speaker 1: First Saints loss in week seventeen, Packers finish one and one.
Speaker 1: Of course, the Seahawks would have to win themselves. Second scenario,
Speaker 1: Seahawks win Saints loss oh and two finished by the
Speaker 1: Packers two and oh finished by the Viking. To get
Speaker 1: the number two Seeds, Seahawks win green Bay one and one.
Speaker 1: New Orleans wins, Number three Seeds, Seattle wins, green Bay
Speaker 1: goes two and oh five Seeds Seattle loses, Minnesota loses
Speaker 1: once or green Bay loses twice, and Minnesota wins twice.
Speaker 1: Following all this, and then finally number finally number six,
Speaker 1: by the way, and that scenario, green Bay would have
Speaker 1: a better conference record to get to number five. That
Speaker 1: seems the most likely, and then number six maybe this
Speaker 1: is the most likely. Basically, all the favorites win their
Speaker 1: number six. So in all the games in the NFC
Speaker 1: moving forward, including tonight's game, if all the favorites end
Speaker 1: up winning, Minnesota beats green Bay, then Green Baby's Detroit,
Speaker 1: Minnesota win, you know, all all that stuff, they'll end
Speaker 1: up sixth and then then they will avoid the NFC
Speaker 1: East winner. They'll end up going to play number three,
Speaker 1: whoever that might be in that scenario. Um, but if
Speaker 1: they end up five, they end up going to the
Speaker 1: NFC East winner. The Seahawks have allowed twenty seven plus
Speaker 1: points for eight times for the eighth time this season yesterday,
Speaker 1: so twenty seven plus points in eight out of fifteen games.
Speaker 1: They were one of twelve on third downs Yesterday against Arizona,
Speaker 1: they only had two total yards of offense. They gained
Speaker 1: forty nine totally yards combined in the second and third quarters,
Speaker 1: and between the six minute mark of the first quarter
Speaker 1: and Tyler Lockett's twelve yard catch early in the fourth,
Speaker 1: they had exactly one first down. Here's the deal though
Speaker 1: with the Seahawks. They lose Chris Carson to a season
Speaker 1: ending hip injury, massive blow this for the game against
Speaker 1: the Niners and beyond in the playoffs. They'll also be
Speaker 1: without Dwayne Brown, who's having surgery today for a knee
Speaker 1: injury that's bothered him for much of the season. Uh
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll says it's not a major surgery, but that
Speaker 1: Brown could be back in a couple of weeks if
Speaker 1: they're lucky enough to be around c J pro sise
Speaker 1: again or is Alan Michael's calls him c J pro
Speaker 1: He ends up fracturing his arm uh minutes after Carson
Speaker 1: got hurt. This on the heels of Josh Gordon's indefinite suspension.
Speaker 1: Al Wood's four game ban and injuries to Carson and
Speaker 1: pro Sis come two weeks after Rashod Penny was out
Speaker 1: with the a c L for the rest of the year.
Speaker 1: So Travis Homer there, six round pick out of Miami.
Speaker 1: He is your running back of record. But Jeff just
Speaker 1: told me before the break, say it, Jeff, I'm not
Speaker 1: joking on both of these that that there is interest
Speaker 1: and it's not an impossibility that a Marshawn lynch and
Speaker 1: another blast from the past, Robert Turban, I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1: Apparently Robert Turban is gonn visit with Seattle later today.
Speaker 1: Mike Gara Folo said that about a half hour ago.
Speaker 1: So that's how bad it is right now for Seattle
Speaker 1: running back. Oh my goodness. Kurt Warner, Kurt with the
Speaker 1: Sea on the horn for the Seahawks. Wow, who was
Speaker 1: the guy number thirty seven who was a great Fantasy player?
Speaker 1: What was his name? Sewan Alexander on the Hornhawks? Oh
Speaker 1: my goodness. By the way, this is also with the
Speaker 1: Quandary dig Shaquille Griffin, Jadavian Clowney. They didn't play yesterday.
Speaker 1: We don't know what their status is. So the Seahawks
Speaker 1: in one fell swoop can go from this team that
Speaker 1: could have gotten all the way to number one to
Speaker 1: oh god, we're done in every way. Wow, what a
Speaker 1: turn of events. Oh, I have to get a line.
Speaker 1: I don't say San Francisco minus three on the road,
Speaker 1: probably a minimum. I'll say minus three just as a placeholder.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's three, but with a lot of juice on
Speaker 1: the favorite I see even as high as three minus thirty.
Speaker 1: But everybody's afraid to go to the three and a half.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm debating this one, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I'm gonna use three or three
Speaker 1: and a half, because I know if I use three,
Speaker 1: they're gonna live. I know if I used three and
Speaker 1: a half, they're gonna take it. I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: open three and a half. You know. But it's funny
Speaker 1: all the problems you just mentioned with the with Seattle.
Speaker 1: You know, I still my questions about the Niners, you know,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: their defense isn't playing that great as far as I
Speaker 1: could see. Garoppolos, you know, still a little inconsistent. You know,
Speaker 1: it's still Seattle at home. But you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: This is this is a tough one, but I think
Speaker 1: I think three would be a one way no birth.
Speaker 1: You'd have to lay three if you see that. But
Speaker 1: three and a half is that too much? You know?
Speaker 1: Might be? Might be? Yeah, yeah, and see tough line.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get into that, you know. And
Speaker 1: I'm afraid I'm going to on a really really big game.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know we that you know, that's that's
Speaker 1: the hill. We're gonna die on these and everything at
Speaker 1: the eleven and ten. I don't know if we're gonna
Speaker 1: change it for next year or not, because, uh, you
Speaker 1: know what, Michael started this and Frank Dody. I mean,
Speaker 1: we weren't handling nearly the money that we're handling now.
Speaker 1: And now some of these if they fall three, I
Speaker 1: mean there's it's, you know, some big figures. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you know it might change it. My god, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Can Russell Wilson put together a performance like Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: and the Eagles did yesterday with with no players around them?
Speaker 1: We'll see that's the flex game Sunday night. Big implications again,
Speaker 1: Niners when they got home field throughout the NFC playoffs,
Speaker 1: come back a story time never before told from Chrissy Andrews.
Speaker 1: We promised you at the beginning of the season guessing
Speaker 1: lines there would be a few stories this year. He
Speaker 1: gave one that had never been between told before earlier
Speaker 1: in the year. We got another one coming up next
Speaker 1: on a numbers game right here at Visa the Sports
Speaker 1: Betting Network. Welcome back to a numbers game with Jill Alexander. Hey, everybody,
Speaker 1: it's story time. Hi everyone, it's story time, all right. Chrissy,
Speaker 1: you're up by the way. Before you know, the Kevin
Speaker 1: White story was a great story. This is just a
Speaker 1: cute little story that I told people the other day.
Speaker 1: They thought it was pretty funny. I can't find the
Speaker 1: exact game. But anyway, back in my days to Kelleny,
Speaker 1: even my good friend John Valinski, he ran the Johnna Squad,
Speaker 1: his Nugget sports book there, so kind of bambo We
Speaker 1: put up the numbers on Monday, and I'd go out
Speaker 1: and see Johnny and yeah, we'd have a cup of
Speaker 1: coffee together, maybe lunch. And seems like we always made
Speaker 1: it a point to go out there on disastrous weekends
Speaker 1: and we come off a bad Sunday. This was one
Speaker 1: of those days. This, you know, came up a horrible,
Speaker 1: horrible Sunday and one of the games that we lost,
Speaker 1: and I can't find a game. I was looking for
Speaker 1: it and I can't find it. It was a pick
Speaker 1: them game, but was each side favored by one at
Speaker 1: different times during the during the week, and and the
Speaker 1: game came tired, you know. So it's just an incredible
Speaker 1: and you know, and I'm one of those guys, I'll
Speaker 1: skip pick them a lot and just go to one
Speaker 1: the other side, but you know, not not always, but
Speaker 1: sometimes a little quicker to move off that. And I
Speaker 1: did that and John certainly did it too. And we're
Speaker 1: so I go out there and we're sitting in his office.
Speaker 1: We're having a couple of coffee, just kind of crying
Speaker 1: on each other's shoulder for the from the day before.
Speaker 1: And as we're talking, Johnny's looking through his report. He's
Speaker 1: got a report of every game and every kick get written,
Speaker 1: you know, over x amount, looking at uh the tickets
Speaker 1: on every game, so like anything at over fifty dollars,
Speaker 1: he's looking to look at it that we love. This
Speaker 1: guy had plus one for a couple of thousand. This
Speaker 1: guy had plus one the other way for a couple
Speaker 1: of thousands, you know, and you're like really pissing and moan,
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm saying, yeah, I kind of did
Speaker 1: the same thing. And now he's looking he stops for
Speaker 1: a second. He's his win. Second, look at this. When
Speaker 1: I was at pick them, somebody bought half a point
Speaker 1: for fifty bucks sixty to win fifty somebody but bought
Speaker 1: a half a point. Can you believe that? And what? Yeah,
Speaker 1: somebody bought half a point sixty to win fifty. That's
Speaker 1: got to be the dumbest bet I've ever seen in
Speaker 1: my life. And I'm yeah, yeah, it's the dumbest bet
Speaker 1: I've ever seen my life. But it actually showed up.
Speaker 1: How do you like that? And Gil, honestly, God would
Speaker 1: be if you saw this in a sitcom, be take
Speaker 1: it's terrible writing that they would do something so corny
Speaker 1: like this. Right as we're saying it, it's a good
Speaker 1: friend of ours who had done that. And he walks
Speaker 1: right into Johnny's office holding up the ticket and like
Speaker 1: starts rattling the ticket. Looks as we I fell off
Speaker 1: the chair laughing. I mean I fell off the chair laughing,
Speaker 1: And john is pissed and get the hell out of
Speaker 1: my office. He shows the guy out of his office,
Speaker 1: and he just like, can you imagine a thirty five
Speaker 1: year old man saying, we like just one of those silly,
Speaker 1: silly things. And now anytime I get a chance to
Speaker 1: say we said, especially in front of Johnny, I love
Speaker 1: to say it just to piss him off, you know.
Speaker 1: But it's just a cute little story. I didn't know
Speaker 1: we had this much time. Did you did you end
Speaker 1: up paste? Yeah, Chris? Did you end up asking him
Speaker 1: why he did that in the first place? Though even
Speaker 1: though it ended him now, I didn't ask him, you know.
Speaker 1: It was just you know, like I said, a friend
Speaker 1: of ours and a kid that you know, BET's quite
Speaker 1: a bit and uh, I don't know where he even
Speaker 1: got the spot to do it, you know, like it
Speaker 1: was it a smart note. It's one of the dumbest
Speaker 1: bets I've ever seen him on. Like, but of course
Speaker 1: it showed up and on all weekends, this one where
Speaker 1: we just happened to get murdered in every game, and
Speaker 1: especially this one game where we particularly got murdered and
Speaker 1: he bought half a point off I pick them to
Speaker 1: get plus a half. That is awesome. It's awesome. The
Speaker 1: percentage of time, the percentage of results that where that
Speaker 1: comes into play is working the next for ten cents.
Speaker 1: I know that this one time. Do you remember the
Speaker 1: year little story? Do you remember the year at all
Speaker 1: of that game? You know it's late eighties, maybe early nine.
Speaker 1: You know, I was looking for on Pro Football Reference
Speaker 1: and there's there's a couple of ties in there that
Speaker 1: not of them will pick them games that I can find,
Speaker 1: you know, So there's I'm sure something they'll do some
Speaker 1: research and find it, you know, but I can't. But
Speaker 1: it was just one of those things, like I said,
Speaker 1: so silly, so stupid. If you, like I said, if
Speaker 1: you wrote that in a sit called me said, boy,
Speaker 1: that's some really lazy writing. But I was there and
Speaker 1: witnessed that it was a hilarious. Maybe maybe that one
Speaker 1: will make the second installment of then one Day from
Speaker 1: Chris Andrew. Yeah, you know, they're really on me to
Speaker 1: do this another book, and I you know, just I
Speaker 1: don't know if I have enough stories of my own,
Speaker 1: but you know, Roxy wants me to write something his perfect.
Speaker 1: I know, Jimmy is never gonna sit down and write
Speaker 1: a book. There's there's two uh, fountains of stories between
Speaker 1: those two guys, and I probably hit a few other
Speaker 1: guys too, and I have a few more like the
Speaker 1: Kevin White stories are pretty good. I don't think We're
Speaker 1: probably put together another book that'll be the world's shortest
Speaker 1: chapter entitled we Chrissie, thank you for story. By the way,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I go w A, yeah, I go
Speaker 1: w h on that with as many ease as you
Speaker 1: want to put in. After that with an exclamation. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll wrap it up. We'll go back through the games
Speaker 1: that we like the best Week seventeen, as squirrely as
Speaker 1: ever with chrisye Andrews, the star of the show My
Speaker 1: Mish book right here on Guessing Lines Week seventeen and
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Speaker 1: Happy holidays to all. Let's recap Week seventeen. What we
Speaker 1: liked the best? Only two for me again, the squirreliest
Speaker 1: of all weeks. Week seventeen. Motivations are strange. We don't
Speaker 1: know who's playing in some of these games. But what
Speaker 1: I ended up liking the most is I like the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: I guess ten, Chris, he's putting it up at eight
Speaker 1: against the Charge. I guess the only knock you could
Speaker 1: say here. And we talked about how there's no correlated parlays,
Speaker 1: but I guess the Chiefs could be scoreboard watching, and
Speaker 1: if if they see the Patriots go out to like
Speaker 1: a zillion and nothing lead against the Dolphins, I suppose
Speaker 1: they could pull back, but they still gotta win. So
Speaker 1: I still like the Chiefs. And then the other one
Speaker 1: I like is the Giants. I honestly believe that the
Speaker 1: Giants could win that game out right in the Cowboys
Speaker 1: get in the postseason. But if you're telling me it's
Speaker 1: more than three and it's what four and a half,
Speaker 1: I think I like the Giants against the Eagles. So
Speaker 1: Chiefs and Giants for me, Chrissie, I like the Chiefs
Speaker 1: and I like your Washington Richins. I just to get
Speaker 1: numbers a little too high. Eleven. There's elevens around on
Speaker 1: that game, quite a few of them. I told I'm
Speaker 1: open and ten and a half. But boy, that just
Speaker 1: that looks a little too. I ain't give me one
Speaker 1: more Houston. By the way, Tennessee has gone at six
Speaker 1: almost every worst. I'm gonna open six. I know you
Speaker 1: got five and a half written done that. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: open six because even see a six and a half,
Speaker 1: I get a couple of six and a halfs. So
Speaker 1: I kind of like Houston in that game too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think your Redskins one is on it because case
Speaker 1: Keendom's gonna make Redskins fans sit through another week where
Speaker 1: he's gonna try to mess up Jay. You're gonna try
Speaker 1: to mess up Jay's young for him, Jeffrey, why not
Speaker 1: combination of what you guys have said, Kansas Kansas City.
Speaker 1: That just feels like a total give up spot for
Speaker 1: the Chargers, even though they're already given given up the
Speaker 1: entire season starting in week two. Let's let's also go
Speaker 1: with Let's also go with the Redskins as well. This
Speaker 1: feels like, especially if Keenom's in, this is gonna be
Speaker 1: a total sweat for Dallas to even get a win
Speaker 1: in that game, even being a double digit favorite. So
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be sweating at Gil because Keenum will
Speaker 1: have the ball down four with a minute to go,
Speaker 1: with the chance to win, and ruin Chase Young. Someone
Speaker 1: get ahold of that guy, tell him what's at stake here? Um,
Speaker 1: you know what's funny is we always we jokes. And
Speaker 1: I was saying about the Cincinnati Miami game earlier, how
Speaker 1: oftentimes if you have just a pre flop game where
Speaker 1: you're totally getting crushed and you're a and goes to, well,
Speaker 1: if we get a touchdown here and then we get
Speaker 1: we make a stop, we get the ball and we
Speaker 1: get a two point conversion, then we're covering on site
Speaker 1: kick and get another touchdown two point version of tie game.
Speaker 1: And that actually happen with the Bengals, even though they
Speaker 1: lose it overtime. The other sort of there's so many
Speaker 1: cliches we say as betters and as sports fans. One
Speaker 1: of them is Jason Garrett mightn't get fired at halftime.
Speaker 1: There is a scenario here where Jason Garrett could get fired,
Speaker 1: could get five Like if the Redskins lead at halftime
Speaker 1: of this game, Oh my god, do we even see
Speaker 1: him emerged for the locker? Of course he will, But
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just saying, there's so many possible implications
Speaker 1: with these games, Chrissie, for me to you in our
Speaker 1: in our final minute here, I just want to say
Speaker 1: to you, uh, for those who have taken this guessing lines,
Speaker 1: you know, the fact that you've been here the whole
Speaker 1: season with us every single week, and I know I
Speaker 1: don't want to be a guy who takes it for granted.
Speaker 1: You've made public your your health issues, that you've gone through,
Speaker 1: the fact that you have sat with us here, and
Speaker 1: that you've been with us all year long. It's a blessing. Man.
Speaker 1: There was a moment there where we all were so worried,
Speaker 1: so glad that you were joining us, and of course
Speaker 1: are on the network all day long. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to say to you publicly what I would say to
Speaker 1: you privately. Um, thank you and it's so great to
Speaker 1: have you every week. Chrissy. Well, I you know, really
Speaker 1: thank you for well, thank you for having me on
Speaker 1: this show every week. And uh, you know, like you said,
Speaker 1: I made it public. I know a lot of guys
Speaker 1: done their own stuff and made it public. I fear
Speaker 1: why not me too, you know. But at one point
Speaker 1: when this whole thing started, I was like three to
Speaker 1: one dog, you know, I kept joking. You never go
Speaker 1: to the race track on a Saturday. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of three to one favorites. There's a lot of three
Speaker 1: one to come in. Yeah, so I was one of them,
Speaker 1: all them as it progressed and the numbers got much
Speaker 1: much better. That's the way my situation weren't out. But
Speaker 1: I'm very glad to be here, very happy and honored
Speaker 1: for the support that I've gotten from listeners, UM and
Speaker 1: you know, people on Twitter and and and my bosses
Speaker 1: and co workers here at the top point. So it's
Speaker 1: it's really been a blessing. I feel extremely lucky for
Speaker 1: the position that I'm in right now. Yeah, that makes
Speaker 1: two of us. We all have we all have a
Speaker 1: whole bunch to be thankful for, uh, this time of year,
Speaker 1: for for all kinds of reasons. UH. And so thank
Speaker 1: you to the listener, Thank you everybody who's listening right
Speaker 1: now who has been such a supporter of Guessing Lines
Speaker 1: and the podcast of the years, and it joins us
Speaker 1: for Guessing Lines all through the year, the years now
Speaker 1: plural as well here on the numbers game at Visa,
Speaker 1: and we cannot we cannot thank you enough, both Christie
Speaker 1: and I UH and everybody involved in it. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for listening, and I hope that the uh
Speaker 1: the show is as uh not only as entertaining, but
Speaker 1: does a value laden as it always has been. Merry
Speaker 1: Christmas to you, Merry Christmas to yours. Have a great holiday.
Speaker 1: We'll come back. We'll talk to you on Thursday. Holiday
Speaker 1: programming between now and then. Good luck with all your
Speaker 1: bets in the interim. Merry Christmas, everybody. Back to the
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