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<v Speaker 1>Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, guys, catch my breath? All right, are you

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<v Speaker 1>good there? KB? Whoa thirty weeks you guys were closing

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<v Speaker 1>in downs the gun. Yeah, because you can technically, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean technically technically I've had friends. Okay, what was it,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four weeks? She just get dry breast one? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I filled them in. Thanks for noticing. She looks really pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>She has good makeup? Did good makeup? I need you

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<v Speaker 1>look really refreshed, like you look like yourself still, just

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<v Speaker 1>like very refreshed version, which is my favorite kind of

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<v Speaker 1>makeup for people. I just got some new just like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like moisturize her anyway. Thanks. Yeah, I was just like sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the first time I looked at you, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, I like it. Really sorry

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<v Speaker 1>back to you, KB, Apologies were taking that away from you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a big moment. No, it's just a big body.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh No, I was saying, because we've gosh, well, how

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<v Speaker 1>how young were those twins that are people? Twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>micro which is my girl. Yeah, they had like a

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<v Speaker 1>zero or like a two percent, and but they both survived.

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't be sorry. I should This has been a no.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know, but I'm saying, but like, at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>your baby could survive. I feel really like there is

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<v Speaker 1>a point in pregnancy where you get to where you

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<v Speaker 1>just started a little deeper. Yeah, a little until you

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<v Speaker 1>got the stairs and then you're back out of breath

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<v Speaker 1>again and then you get out of breath. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's good, so good. This has been my most um

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<v Speaker 1>reassuring baby of the three. Real love the four really

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<v Speaker 1>but um yeah, because I it moves so much. Oh so,

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<v Speaker 1>I never wonder if if it's okay in there. I

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<v Speaker 1>think she's like, hey, just so you know, like, I'm here, Mom,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here. Danna always thinks it's a girl. It's for

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<v Speaker 1>sure a girl, Like I will get a boy. I

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<v Speaker 1>will put money on it. That's a girl. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>a good guesser? Mmm? I mean I have a fifty

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<v Speaker 1>fifty shots, right. I usually am wrong, So whatever I

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<v Speaker 1>guess is usually a sit for people. That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if you're like, yeah, I'm undefeated. What were you guessing? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a girl too. I've been correct with

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<v Speaker 1>my own children, but everybody else is I'm horrible. Oh interesting, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I can like call It's like my

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<v Speaker 1>sense of direction. You know direction you do. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>every time we're out of town. Just trust me, I

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<v Speaker 1>know where I'm going. Thank you. Don't even meet a map,

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<v Speaker 1>I just sniff it out. We're all trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, it's like it's this way, guys. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I've just always been you know why. It's

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<v Speaker 1>because I lived in the boonies from all of my

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<v Speaker 1>friends and at that time, that was pre map quest.

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<v Speaker 1>I try to figure out how to get to figure

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<v Speaker 1>it out. It was pre map quest, Yeah, print it

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<v Speaker 1>out just to figure it out. No, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was like so I was the oldest of the drivers

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<v Speaker 1>and so I think it was. I remember printing it out,

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<v Speaker 1>like going it going to someone's house. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>like very new. Yeah, like because I was like having

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<v Speaker 1>to write out mapst got me in the biggest trouble

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<v Speaker 1>of my life. What happened. So my best friend Julie

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper and I Mattie, she is still my best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to UK. I've never heard of her territorial

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<v Speaker 1>here for it. So we printed out we were going

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<v Speaker 1>to sneak off to Michigan State oh uh huh, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like not like me. I get very nervous. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a rule follower. And we printed up the directions from

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<v Speaker 1>her house to Michigan State and left them on the

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<v Speaker 1>printer and her mom was like, you're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Michigan State tonight and we were like, no, no way,

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<v Speaker 1>and she like holds up the paper, what is this for?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like uh oh, and we were busted

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<v Speaker 1>and then we were forbidden to see each other for

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<v Speaker 1>like ever, isn't that senior? A senior senior in high school?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever have Do you have a defining moment

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<v Speaker 1>from childhood or something? Because mine came up just a

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<v Speaker 1>couple days ago and I was walking with the kids,

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<v Speaker 1>like I remembered something from our child hood that I've

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<v Speaker 1>just I've it's always like it's it's just an interest story,

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of like that where you get caught, Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's where you get caught, yeah, and I got

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<v Speaker 1>caught as a kid, but it's I mean, it's years

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<v Speaker 1>is years is better, but it's I was the same

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<v Speaker 1>mind for Kat can think about hers, but I me

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<v Speaker 1>and my girlfriend Lindsay Crocker. Who did you met her. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never met her, so she's acceptable. Yeah, she's she

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<v Speaker 1>came on the best one time. She's I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we're not like you know, it was Lindsay Crocker.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not like me and you go ahead there. It

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<v Speaker 1>was Lindsay Crocker and Mary Dodge, and I was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of always like so it was like me and Lindsay

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<v Speaker 1>were the closest and then when there was the three

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<v Speaker 1>of us, I was the outside. Okay, she was also

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<v Speaker 1>close to Mary too, long story short, and Lindsay I

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<v Speaker 1>was probably Jolie's age, like seven, six or seven. We

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do a dance show for our neighborhood and

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<v Speaker 1>put on a dance like in the common area. So

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<v Speaker 1>days on brand, are you okay? So I had we

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<v Speaker 1>had made these flyers. We came up with this amazing

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<v Speaker 1>dance in her basement of course perfect and my I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't allowed to cross the street like without a parent,

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<v Speaker 1>and so what I did, and so my because we

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<v Speaker 1>were had to hand out the flyers, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>when I go to the neighbor's house, like to give

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<v Speaker 1>the flyers. Like, so my mom found out that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she saw the flyer in the other like in the mailbox,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, or whatever, and I got grounded, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>we never did our dance. But you know what's funny

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<v Speaker 1>is I never really canceled it, so I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know that. I still wonder if anyone showed up, huge group,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone in hand, wondering where. But I just remember getting

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<v Speaker 1>like I couldn't cross the street. And so yesterday or

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<v Speaker 1>the other day, when I was walking with the kids,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, please stop at the stop sign, but they

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<v Speaker 1>had then run across the street and gone home, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, don't ever do that again. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>without mommy, because these cars I just go by so fast.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, and I wanted to be like and

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<v Speaker 1>I had to cancel a dancers idea. They got grounding

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<v Speaker 1>Kramer Cracker Done show was a big new show that

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<v Speaker 1>was just Kramer and Cracker wasn't invited. He dodged one them.

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<v Speaker 1>Thinking about all my kids running around the neighborhood right now,

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<v Speaker 1>probably the streets different are a little older. So I've

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<v Speaker 1>got Jace who doesn't look across with Jolie, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you can't just run brother across the street

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<v Speaker 1>like that, like without looking you like more of the

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<v Speaker 1>like Ramsey runs across the street to her, but like

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<v Speaker 1>around a cold a sax, don't worry about it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're on the main like yeah, you are same, drive

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<v Speaker 1>like no, no, like a highway basic and they like

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<v Speaker 1>drive fast. And I'm like that parent that you're that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the old lady in the neighborhood. That's like waving

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<v Speaker 1>my hand. Yeah. But it's like your kids live here.

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<v Speaker 1>We had so many kids that run around in here

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<v Speaker 1>that I just am like, you know, so I put

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<v Speaker 1>my little uh turtle, I love your turtle with the

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<v Speaker 1>flag in the middle of the street. You got one

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<v Speaker 1>to um. All I can think about right now is

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<v Speaker 1>I was not allowed to talk to boys on the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fifth grade. I remember I was ten. Fifth grade.

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<v Speaker 1>A boy called this is back in the day when

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<v Speaker 1>like the answering machine. That was the worst. When you're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting for dinner and then all of a sudden, it's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Sam just calling. And I'm like, Sam looked really

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<v Speaker 1>pretty today, choir, but go ahead, um. But Chris Blank

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<v Speaker 1>called me. I just remember, and I don't remember what

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted, but I remember my mom. Well, I went

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<v Speaker 1>to the other room to get it. I remember walking

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<v Speaker 1>in the hallway and her meeting me in the hallway.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, why was he calling? And I made

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<v Speaker 1>up a lie like he needed something for school. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>she was listening the entire time on the other way

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<v Speaker 1>in Mine's not liar liar pants on fire? Yeah, Chris

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<v Speaker 1>l Guys, Maggie went out on Broadway the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>She did? She did you guys ready for a few

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<v Speaker 1>of that? I have not, so I only listened to

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<v Speaker 1>one of them. But are you ready? She's precious. Here

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<v Speaker 1>we go. I've got the videos too, And this is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna just be one second. I mean, this is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna show this video. I mean she's she's a bridesmaid.

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<v Speaker 1>She's got some purple hair. Wait was she really a bridesmaid? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean she's wearing the I feel like you can't

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<v Speaker 1>wear the t R if you're not a bridesmaid? What

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't if she was like posing maid? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean bridesmaid? Because this is the most okay, But

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<v Speaker 1>if you're in Nashville, this is a very undercover look.

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<v Speaker 1>If you didn't want to be noticed because a bridesmaid

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<v Speaker 1>except ath Carolina Eline, what is your biggest dick in

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship when they don't know how to clean up

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<v Speaker 1>after themselves in the dishwasher, put your close in the hammer, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that difficult. I agree, don't you agree? I

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<v Speaker 1>do agree wholeheartedly. Payton. And my question is what is

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<v Speaker 1>a good agent? Get married? Oh? Pay good question? Pay In?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know my gutens was it? Never? Never? Never? Run? Payton? No?

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<v Speaker 1>What is your I would say thirty two. That was

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<v Speaker 1>my first divorce. I mean I would say thirty two

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<v Speaker 1>or thirty five, Like I like thirty five, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five. I don't know, because there's things I liked

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<v Speaker 1>about being like well, having kids early, being married early,

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<v Speaker 1>but having kids early. Um, but i'd say, like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight to thirty. I still think I would have dined.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to be like solidly in your thirties. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I need a solid thirty two because yeah, the food.

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<v Speaker 1>But it also depends where you're at, right, So like

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't fully there yet, but I don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>really get there till your thirties anyways. Maybe I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But then when you look a cat, well I was

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<v Speaker 1>like this at eighteen, so like you know, like old,

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<v Speaker 1>like acting grandma at the age of eighteen, but most

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<v Speaker 1>people are. I do think it just matters. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it matters what you know to be sure of about yourself. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. M like I I knew when I was

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<v Speaker 1>getting married the first time it was not the time

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<v Speaker 1>same and I look back and I'm like why, But

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<v Speaker 1>it was like such a smart choice, like to people's plans,

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<v Speaker 1>that was mine. Oh yep, staying on branded people. This

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<v Speaker 1>question is from from from from Broadway. Hi, I'm store

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<v Speaker 1>me up from South Carolina, and my question is way

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship should you use are doing your partners laundry? Never? Ever?

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<v Speaker 1>Also never never, someone's gonna wrap that up never never

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<v Speaker 1>never a right three nevers And that was good from Broadway.

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<v Speaker 1>I like personally, like I have I done? No, I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't done Alan's laundry. H Allen strikes me as a

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<v Speaker 1>do it yourself first and he does his laundry, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's thrown mine in a few times. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>he did. He threw mine in and then he left

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of in a pile, the dry pile. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like the dry pile because then it's then

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<v Speaker 1>it's wrinkled. So I'm like in my mind, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's I didn't say anything because it's like great is

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<v Speaker 1>sweet thought at the same time, like I will just

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<v Speaker 1>rewash it. M go, don't touch my stuff. I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be married. I don't. I'm probably just pregnant and tired.

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<v Speaker 1>But I really this person to his own laundry he

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<v Speaker 1>does now do it. I will I do all of

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<v Speaker 1>ours if his isn't there to do. But he's usually

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<v Speaker 1>in and out repacking so quick that he's like let

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<v Speaker 1>me to he just does allowed. I have a question though,

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<v Speaker 1>because you do the kids laundry? Do you do the

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<v Speaker 1>kids lundry? Yeah? Yeah, same obviously. Yeah, it'd be nice

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<v Speaker 1>if they would. I know you're still gonna say no

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<v Speaker 1>to this, but we have to do like double laundry,

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<v Speaker 1>so it would be nice if they picked up the

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<v Speaker 1>slack too. I'm about to cast my husband publicly go

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<v Speaker 1>work because he's like I caught us up on laundry

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<v Speaker 1>the other day and I was like, okay, dry pile,

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<v Speaker 1>heaping dry pile on top of like the laundry room counter,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, so that's not caught up. Caught

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<v Speaker 1>up to me is like those items are then in

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<v Speaker 1>their room and roy GBIV in the closet hanging that's

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<v Speaker 1>caught up. So those are done, but those are not folded,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're not put in a basket, and they're not

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<v Speaker 1>up to the next level. Mine get folded on the

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen table. Okay, Sota doesn't put him step put it away?

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<v Speaker 1>No no, no really. Now, if I'm like in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of putting up a bunch of laundry and I say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>can you help me take some of this up? Like

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<v Speaker 1>take he will. But in his defense, the girls are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much the same size. They're literally like small medium,

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<v Speaker 1>you know whatever. It makes me more mad when he

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<v Speaker 1>puts it up, So I'm fine with that that I

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<v Speaker 1>would like it in the basket. But he can't even

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<v Speaker 1>separate the girls. He literally doesn't know who's who's and

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<v Speaker 1>the girls at all. Yeah, Like I find my t

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<v Speaker 1>shirts and loves pile and I'm just like, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna get frustrated. So I am thankful for the

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<v Speaker 1>folding though. That's nice. Yeah, the dry pile is like

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<v Speaker 1>all done. I was like, um, I go in and

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<v Speaker 1>Everest is like staring at me. Cool. Sometimes I'm guilty

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<v Speaker 1>of that with nixt laundry though, because I need to

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<v Speaker 1>move on from his and it's still in the dryer.

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<v Speaker 1>So sometimes i'll do the dry pile you dry pilot

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes only sometimes I appreciate No, it's not mean I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate alan though. I'll sit down on the couch and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll start folding the kids clothes or my clothes or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and he immediately grabs something and I go no, no, no no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no no no. He's like, let me help. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying like no. And then now I don't

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<v Speaker 1>say no, I'm just like good, like sure, like if

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<v Speaker 1>that's so sweet. He doesn't have to I'm not asking

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<v Speaker 1>him to, but I just I appreciate the well. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think at the end of the day, like if

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<v Speaker 1>they're willing to help and they're trying to help, even

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<v Speaker 1>if they don't know the way, that we should appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know it's not easy to do all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>especially for me. I think it's it's uh, I like,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is something I'll say too, where I like,

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<v Speaker 1>like he's seen in the mornings, that's the very first

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<v Speaker 1>thing I do as I empty the dishwasher, very first thing,

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<v Speaker 1>same human because I don't like a dish in my

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<v Speaker 1>saying right. And I know we talked about this before,

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<v Speaker 1>but um, so that's the very first thing that I do.

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<v Speaker 1>So that way the kids can then put their their

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in the in the dishwasher. Um. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the mornings I had was just like running

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<v Speaker 1>late or whatever. That was the first thing that he did.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like he it's like he saw like

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<v Speaker 1>my routine and like I was just like oh. I

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<v Speaker 1>ended up being like thank you for that, like you

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<v Speaker 1>would you saw what I do and then you yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I did it without even like asking her, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>the something I don't like when people ask questions. Just

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<v Speaker 1>just do it because when you ask, I'm like, no, no no,

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<v Speaker 1>I got it. Yeah, always I got it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm tired. I got it. But what I mean to

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<v Speaker 1>say is when I say I got it, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>yes please. Yeah. When I say I got it'd be

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<v Speaker 1>like ike out yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. When I say

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<v Speaker 1>I got it, I got it, that's yeah. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>where you have to ask for I'm trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>better by asking. I think we should get better at

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<v Speaker 1>saying yes please. Yeah. I'm trying really hard because you

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<v Speaker 1>almost can't get mad at the other person if they oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no they don't. And then but then you're frustrated because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, but I really wanted you to do do. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>up in third times a charm and by the third baby,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna be like, yes, I'll take any help

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<v Speaker 1>you can give me. I thought you talking about my marriages.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, this is the final marriage? Oh amen, mine marriage?

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<v Speaker 1>Or do you have any y? No? It was like, no, honey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm settled into mine. How has anyone had therapy with

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<v Speaker 1>Amy lately? You guys are so much to unpack. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't even processed. Huh. Oh. I got in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one of those where I just got in

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<v Speaker 1>the car, very grateful, heart very heavy, very grateful, very empowering,

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<v Speaker 1>very tiring. And I got in the car and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even want the air the sound of the fanom.

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<v Speaker 1>I just drove and drank water and was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's a lot my voyage of not trusting people

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<v Speaker 1>or men, right, right? Did you do MDR today? I

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<v Speaker 1>did a lot of big MDAR. If I could frame

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<v Speaker 1>it for you guys, I would frame it. Maybe by

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<v Speaker 1>next week I can frame it it was just a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Well let's put a little pin pin in that one

0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:55.040
<v Speaker 1>because we can. Yeah, something came up. I had therapy

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday with Amy and I cried a lot. I cried,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was something where yeah, it was just hard.

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<v Speaker 1>So anything else, Nope, we'll pin it too. Let's pin it.

0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Let's pin it. It's a lot to digest, like that's

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<v Speaker 1>the hardest part and a lot of like big revelations.

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<v Speaker 1>But then also just like, holy cow, I'm writing a

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<v Speaker 1>note for for ourselves to unpin therapy talk. Yeah, therapy,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're gonna switch gears because we have Heidi Pratt

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<v Speaker 1>coming on and I know you were a big Hills watcher.

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I watched uh some of it. I was

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<v Speaker 1>a Laguna Hills. Yeah, you know, we have Jason Waller

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<v Speaker 1>coming on, like he's gonna be sitting on the couch

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<v Speaker 1>with us. It's not crushy how I feel. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>I get excited Jason. Yeah, definitely not crushy. No no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're married, right. But I mean also, even if I

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<v Speaker 1>never had a cry, I don't have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>celebrity crush It's fun. Fact, do you have one? I

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<v Speaker 1>had Matthew McConaughey, who I did too the greatest, And

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<v Speaker 1>then I heard he was stinky stinky. I didn't believe whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably just a rumor, but I needed something to

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<v Speaker 1>break my healthy obsession, so that was fine. Can we

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<v Speaker 1>just say something about the natural deodor and thing for

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<v Speaker 1>a second. It doesn't work well, So I'm really stinky,

0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm a naturally stinky person. I still have like

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<v Speaker 1>PTSD from X because I was He'd like, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I just feel like I never like so

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<v Speaker 1>I'd always like I know, I'd literally never noticed it

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. Like he I don't know, maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>just like hated me so much, but like I like

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<v Speaker 1>even my sense disgusted him. But like, I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>was like to the point where like Alan's like you

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<v Speaker 1>always smell so good, and I'm in my mind, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you just saying that because I stink, Like because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just so ingrained that, like I have a bad

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<v Speaker 1>odor or something. So I'm like constantly like putting on

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<v Speaker 1>deodor and like all the time. And um So, but

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<v Speaker 1>there was this girl that worked, do't I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>say this? She was um at the house helping and

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<v Speaker 1>she wore a natural doutor. And again, some natural deodorants

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<v Speaker 1>might work for some people, but a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>if you have that stink, what I've noticed is you're

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna it's gonna come out like pregnant. I it's

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<v Speaker 1>work well, and so yeah, and so I smell and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, it's to the point where you can't even

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, like you can't breathe. And it's like and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very like smelly sensitive. And Jason's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, mom, what stinks? And I'm like, But then

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<v Speaker 1>when the person link sits on my couch and puts

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<v Speaker 1>their arm like I'm the thing, and I was like

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<v Speaker 1>and I was done, and I had to I had

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<v Speaker 1>to let the person go because I stunk. I couldn't say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>can you put on deodorant? How do how do you

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<v Speaker 1>have that conversation. It's interesting to me when people can't

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<v Speaker 1>smell themselves. I smell myself when I'm stinky, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I usually I would say, oh, I'm probably stinky. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so paranoid about it. I'm not even that stinky. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>I just do my thing, and you will not me

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<v Speaker 1>doing natural deodorant because I have just I tried every

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<v Speaker 1>single one of them. I did three years natural deodorant.

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<v Speaker 1>None of it works for me my body chemistry. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well that just went. Whyever we even get to deodorant.

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew McConaughey was not stinky. I don't know that Pert

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<v Speaker 1>ever smelled him in real life. Given the opportunity, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have loved the opportunity at once upon a time.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you have a celebrity crush? I used to

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<v Speaker 1>owe him and he's talked about that. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a whole lot either. Yeah, it takes a lot

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Yeah, well, anybody anyways, moving on, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get heidion. She married her celebrity crush, she sure did,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna talk all things. Well. Hello, hey girl,

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<v Speaker 1>Hey did you just get didn't work out? You're in

0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:04.080
<v Speaker 1>your cute little like matching yoga set. Thank you. I'm

0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:06.280
<v Speaker 1>trying to get it in, but it's hard with feeding

0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and running around with this baby. And how's the baby now?

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<v Speaker 1>He's four months? Are you sleeping? I'm more than with Gunner.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I get like two hours straight three, I'm good.

0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:23.240
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy how we get so sleep deprived that I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like once we can get like a good two

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<v Speaker 1>or three hour chunk, then we start to feel like

0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:28.959
<v Speaker 1>we could run for office. Like it's like I got it,

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<v Speaker 1>no big deal. Spencer's like, oh, I woke up once

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<v Speaker 1>last night. I'm like, who are you talking to? Hi?

0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:38.960
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean? That's when I say to my husband, respectfully,

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<v Speaker 1>stop talking. Stop talking, girl. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>coming on the podcast. So a funny story we like,

0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:52.280
<v Speaker 1>and you will not remember this, but we met. Oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>how many years ago is that? I mean god, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sam almost forty. I was like maybe twenty four, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a long, long, long, long time ago. We

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<v Speaker 1>were at some club on sunset. It was you and Spencer,

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<v Speaker 1>and then someone set me and Brody up on a

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<v Speaker 1>blind date. So we're at this dinner and it was

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<v Speaker 1>like the worst. You were so sweet, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>the worst blind date ever with me and Brody, Like

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<v Speaker 1>the absolute worst, and the worst thing about it was

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<v Speaker 1>Probably one of my most embarrassing moments was that night,

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<v Speaker 1>because I was like, just we were not vibing at all,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, he said he said something to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, that's it, I'm leaving. But there were

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<v Speaker 1>mirrors on the walls. Okay, so I kind of get

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<v Speaker 1>up in what we had already finished our dinner, right

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<v Speaker 1>and like you guys were like somewhere or whatever. We

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<v Speaker 1>were sitting out like in a booth area or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had said something to me, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>like whatever, Like I'm out of here. So I go

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<v Speaker 1>marching towards the exit sign. Well, little do I know,

0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:59.640
<v Speaker 1>the exit sign walks me right in. It's the reflection.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all a mirror, and so I slam I

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<v Speaker 1>walk right into like a mirror. It's horrible. Was that

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<v Speaker 1>it was the one lacross from like the Shell station

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<v Speaker 1>on like Laurel Canyon, was the one right on the

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<v Speaker 1>right set. So when you'd come, if you're coming away

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<v Speaker 1>from the valley, knows the other one like the other

0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:28.200
<v Speaker 1>privilege privilege, yeah or whatever, Like it was like that was,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, it was so embarrassing. And that's the

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<v Speaker 1>last I saw of you or not did you just

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<v Speaker 1>turn around and walk the other way. I did not

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<v Speaker 1>look back to see if someone saw me. Oh, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure someone saw me walk right into that mirror.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like I was in a funny house, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking that a fun house. Fun house, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>funny whatever, fun Okay, But the transition to two have

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<v Speaker 1>you found it to be difficult or where are you at?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I struggled with the transition to two And how

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<v Speaker 1>old is Gunner? Let's start there, Okay, So Gunner is five,

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<v Speaker 1>which I was at first really concerned that he got

0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:11.520
<v Speaker 1>to be too far of an age difference because my

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:13.280
<v Speaker 1>sister and I are three years and I wanted them

0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:15.480
<v Speaker 1>to kind of kind of like grow up closer and

0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:17.680
<v Speaker 1>to have each other in the house longer. But five

0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:20.960
<v Speaker 1>years has been great. I can't imagine having him younger

0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:23.080
<v Speaker 1>because Gunner is a lot, but you know, like he

0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:25.520
<v Speaker 1>wants so much of our attention and we've given it

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:29.159
<v Speaker 1>to him so much for five years, and writer he's

0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:31.399
<v Speaker 1>fitting right in. So I think when he gets a

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:33.800
<v Speaker 1>little older and there's more of a schedule, it will

0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:36.680
<v Speaker 1>be great. But this newborn stage has been a little challenging,

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:39.640
<v Speaker 1>and Spencer's really stepped out and been so great at

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:42.560
<v Speaker 1>doing a lot with Gunner. But I feel guilty that

0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not there as much with him, because like I'm

0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 1>the one who woke up with him all the time,

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:48.359
<v Speaker 1>and I'm the one who would make sure to put

0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 1>him to bed last. And you know, I just had

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:53.600
<v Speaker 1>so much in my life revolving around Gunner. So Gunner's

0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:56.199
<v Speaker 1>done a really good job transitioning. But I feel like

0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:58.840
<v Speaker 1>for me, it's just it is hard being fouled in

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 1>the two directions. But I love it too, It's sure,

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:05.240
<v Speaker 1>it's I love chaos and challenges obviously, Well girl, I

0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:08.160
<v Speaker 1>mean you've lived You've lived a lot of that very publicly, right,

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 1>so I feel like you're probably an expert on it.

0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:14.840
<v Speaker 1>And I'm curious, like with all the you know, new

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 1>streaming platforms and you know, the people doing the podcast

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 1>and talking about the hills, and it is it hard

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:25.199
<v Speaker 1>for you to have to kind of hear or relive

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 1>things or you kind of like whatever, that's the past

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 1>and this is who I am today, and like, I'm

0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 1>not going to let that affect where I've gone. I

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 1>think it's both because obviously, when you're doing like a

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 1>recap of a show, you're kind of having to like

0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:43.120
<v Speaker 1>go back and live things and moments that you wouldn't.

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:46.240
<v Speaker 1>But in my everyday life it doesn't affect me because

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:48.639
<v Speaker 1>I have the friends that I have, I have my marriage.

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we've been together for sixteen years. You know,

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:55.360
<v Speaker 1>we have two kids. I have a great family, so

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:57.719
<v Speaker 1>my everyday life, it doesn't affect me. But then when

0:25:57.840 --> 0:26:00.440
<v Speaker 1>sometimes people bring it up where you have to talk

0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 1>about certain things, obviously God brings it up. Are you pregnant?

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:07.879
<v Speaker 1>I am so pregnant. I feel so extra pregnant in

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:11.159
<v Speaker 1>this moment. Actually, I feel stuck in my body. Is

0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:13.480
<v Speaker 1>it obvious that I'm stuck in my body hiding because

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:17.159
<v Speaker 1>I I wouldn't even know unless you were rocking and

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 1>holding your stomach, because from here pregnant at all. But

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 1>then I'm seeing the rocking and well, the baby is

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 1>like really in this moving stage that I just feel

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 1>like one of us is dedicated to you and the

0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:29.959
<v Speaker 1>other one of us is having a full blown party

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>in my abdomen. So I'm trying so hard congraduations. We're

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:39.440
<v Speaker 1>not finding out it's our third So this has been

0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:41.720
<v Speaker 1>really fun, but I'm it's interesting because I have a

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 1>four year old boy. Janna and I our girls are

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:46.879
<v Speaker 1>three weeks apart and our boys are three months apart,

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 1>so we live very similar life. So I need her

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:51.119
<v Speaker 1>to catch up with me and get on the third quickly.

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:53.639
<v Speaker 1>So we're not so distant, but my son will be

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 1>almost five. So it's interesting to hear you talk about

0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Gunner like, you know, because they are like the little

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:03.440
<v Speaker 1>loves of our lives. My daughter is older and I'm

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 1>obsessed with my son, and I just can't imagine having

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:07.639
<v Speaker 1>another boyfriend. So that's got to open your heart in

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:12.159
<v Speaker 1>a different way. It's so true. This morning, Spencer said something.

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 1>He was like, you're not stressing me out or whatever,

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>because he just got his blood taken and he's like

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 1>too stressed out. And I was like, you know, that's

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:21.919
<v Speaker 1>an internal conversation. I don't mean you like saying that

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I am stressing you out and that you're not stressed

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 1>out and anyway, right or Gunner goes up and punches

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:29.959
<v Speaker 1>Spencer and it's like, don't talk to my mom like that.

0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:33.240
<v Speaker 1>That's right, and in my mind and I try to

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:34.679
<v Speaker 1>be like, I don't think you just stick up for me,

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:36.120
<v Speaker 1>but thank you. And I was like this form, I'm

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:38.199
<v Speaker 1>not saying anything, Just get in the car, thank you.

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I love you. Come that's right. I'll be his client.

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>That's fine. I love it with you, with you and Spencer,

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, being married for sixteen years, so wait, that

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 1>together for how long? Then together for sixteen, married for fourteen,

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Mary Fortune, sixteen fortune. Okay, but I feel like when

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:58.360
<v Speaker 1>you guys got married, there was so much like, oh,

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:00.399
<v Speaker 1>this isn't gonna last. So now that you hit like

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>your fourteen are you kind of like middle finger to people?

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:07.639
<v Speaker 1>I always felt that way. So I always felt like

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:10.640
<v Speaker 1>I had nothing to prove with Spencer, and I just,

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, I understand why people have thought that way

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 1>because on camera, and we were paid to have like

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 1>a very tumultuous relationship on camera, and so I see

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.159
<v Speaker 1>why people thought that. But our real life was just

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>so different. So I knew our real relationship that we had,

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 1>like I would never have put up with any of that.

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:30.439
<v Speaker 1>I would never have been in a relationship or like

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 1>my fiance is flirting with a girl in the club,

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I have a zero tolerance policy. So

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 1>in real life it was just completely different. So it's

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 1>almost like we went on camera, you know, which obviously

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:48.600
<v Speaker 1>you're an actress and you guys know, you know, it's

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of acting, but then it bleeds into your

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 1>real life with people thinking that, and then you're really

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of like that, well too far, You know. So anyways,

0:28:57.760 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>it was a balance. But my real life, I always

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 1>how we were and how I felt, and I just

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 1>knew it was a one time soulmate marriage that we

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 1>would you know, we'd have forever. So I just always

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 1>felt that way. But what area do you guys struggle

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 1>in the most? Like when you're like, oh, we keep

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 1>coming back to this one issue. Parenting is definitely tricky,

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 1>you know. It just takes your relationship to a whole

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 1>new level. So it's like, well, not only do I

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>need to confront you about this, I have to advocate

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 1>for this little child, you know. And you both want

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:33.479
<v Speaker 1>the right thing, and you both have different ways of

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 1>doing things. You know. I'm from a small town in

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Colorado with my mom who is like very strict, zero policy,

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, and Spencer wants to be fun dad. And

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 1>then when you're fun dad, the child doesn't give you

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:48.719
<v Speaker 1>the same amount of respect that they're getting long because

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I am not going to take things, you know. So

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 1>he's like he only listens to you, and I'm like, well,

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe you should not be so fun. And also parent

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>is the most challenging. But I had to have a

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 1>conversation when we first became parents, and it becomes more

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>relevant every year, is that we're the team. We have

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 1>some kind of division, we need to talk about it

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 1>later or something like that, but for the benefit of

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:20.239
<v Speaker 1>our child too, like we need to stand together. And

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:23.720
<v Speaker 1>he's really come around to that. That's great. Spencer is

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 1>fun dad. Fun dad is really into hummingbirds. Can we

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 1>talk about it at all? Are we just not gonna

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>do that? I mean, I'm fascinated watching these videos, Like no,

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy, like what is he doing? He's like a whisperer.

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>What is he even doing? Heidi? You know, it was

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>actually it's like a divine intervention because when I found

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>out that I was pregnant, we had one hummingbird at

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>our old house. We found this hummingbird nest and it

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 1>was so symbolic, like, oh, we're having a baby and

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 1>we just found this nest. And then one got eaten

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 1>and one lived and we had to rescue the hummingbird

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>and it was this whole thing. And then we moved

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 1>here and there were a lot of hummingbirds at this house,

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 1>and so Spencer already knew so much about them, and

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 1>he makes hummingbird nectar every day, which is sugar water

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>because the red dyet is poisonous for them actually like

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 1>kills them. So he makes it fresh every day and

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>then they just come and then he goes out there

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>with his feeders and they love it. And now Gunner's

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 1>in on it. It's like a whole operation. White you're

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 1>up too, I know, it's like a whole thing. And

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>you never and they get in the house and then

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 1>you have to like capture the hummingbird, but the right way,

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, it's just it's the way I don't

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:31.239
<v Speaker 1>know about them in the house. It's interesting because I

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 1>was a hills watcher, so Spencer was always the villain. Yeah,

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, oh, well, you just can't they get

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 1>they all have to shut up now because I always

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>the hummingbird whisper. It's like you, I mean, what is

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 1>more opposite day than the villain the guy that's literally

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 1>holding hummingbird babies in his hand like he obviously has

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 1>good energy. The hummingbirds are Yeah, so we shut that down.

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I love it. Do you do you even like talking

0:31:55.480 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 1>about the hills um Yes and no. I think that

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 1>love the ad by the way. I appreciate the and

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I've got an ant I have an ampersand on it

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 1>because I always think that it's not a butt, it's

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 1>always an ant and I love you, love your ants

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>totally thank you for the acknowledgment. I strategically also use

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the ants. Yeah, it's a twofold. It's tricky because people

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 1>are so team Lauren and they're kind of brainwashed to like,

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 1>no matter what she did, there was never a problem,

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 1>and I was the bad guy and that's how it was.

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 1>So it's really ingrained in a lot of people's mind.

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>But then interestingly enough, with TikTok and all this new generation,

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people watch it with a different perspective

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, whoa, who is this Lauren girl? And

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's definitely changed it. And then also it's

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>hard with Spencer because I understand why people get worked

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 1>up or think the way that they did because it

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>was such a fake relationship. I mean, like some things

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 1>in the beginning were real, like you know, real relationships

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 1>have rockyness. Thank god they didn't show me being like

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>a player also because as I totally was, And it

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>just gets tricky. But at the same time, I'm so

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 1>thankful over the Hills and it was such a blessing,

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 1>and I met the love of my life. And I'll

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>always have a place in my heart for Lauren, and

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate the friendship we did have and what she

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 1>did do for me and letting me be on our show.

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>So it was such a fun moment in time, and

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 1>also it was very challenging. Sure, if there's I mean,

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously it's not good to have regrets, right,

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:32.959
<v Speaker 1>but if there's, is there a moment that you can

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>go back to and go, I really wish I would

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>have done this differently, or I wouldn't have done or

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, not do this. I wish I never brought

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 1>my family on the hills. We should have had a

0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 1>no family policy. I didn't see that happening the way

0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 1>it did. It just caused a lot of miscommunication between

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 1>like my mom and I and my sister and I

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>because the producers would tell you one thing and then

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 1>you'd all kind of go in with the plan. I'm like, Okay, yeah,

0:33:57.200 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>you can say this, and you know, because in real life,

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 1>my mom loves Spencer and there was never a problem.

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>But then when we started like acting out that she

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't like him, then it was kind of like, wait

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 1>a minute, Mom, why did you say that? And she's like,

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't said to say something, and then it caused

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:14.839
<v Speaker 1>it's actual turmoil when there was no problem, and then

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:19.440
<v Speaker 1>it just led to a lot of unnecessary, real hurts.

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>So I think that if I could do one thing,

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:24.879
<v Speaker 1>it would have just been not including It was tricky though,

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 1>because the producers were like, well, you guys don't have

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 1>a storyline and you're not going to get paid, and

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:30.400
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to be on the show because no

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:32.360
<v Speaker 1>one will film with you because Laurence told all the

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>casts not to film with you guys anymore. So you've

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:38.240
<v Speaker 1>got to bring your mom on and or find something.

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:41.800
<v Speaker 1>So I was just put in a hard position, especially

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 1>at twenty and not having a good not having an

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Asian manager, lawyer, not anyone. I mean, Spencer was my soundboard.

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, what are we complaying? You know, So

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 1>it was hard not having a team or anyone to

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 1>help guide us through that time. Right as you were

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 1>saying that, I question him. To my mind, I'm like,

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:06.760
<v Speaker 1>do I ask it? Because if someone asked me the question,

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:08.799
<v Speaker 1>I would have a hard time. I don't know if

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 1>i'd answer it. As well, from being on a show, right,

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:13.880
<v Speaker 1>So it's like I think back to, like, you know,

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 1>one of my shows that I was on, if there

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 1>was a person from that show that you'd be fine

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 1>with never talking to ever again, Like the one person

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 1>that you were like would would never want to talk

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:25.239
<v Speaker 1>to again and be like totally fine with it, Like

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 1>if there was one that you could say, I mean,

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm fine with never talking to a few people. One

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 1>is there a narrowing people out? I know that's the thing.

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:43.799
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what I even narrow that because it's

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 1>like I know mine, like you know, and so it's

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 1>like it's interesting because it's like it's not it's not

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 1>even like a mean girl thing. It's just like I

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:54.319
<v Speaker 1>choose to not let that kind of come into my

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 1>life again and cause or me to feel X Y

0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 1>and Z and you were both like twenty doing the shows,

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 1>like it's a different lifetime. Who's yours. We'll see. I've

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 1>got a few I like, I know I do I

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 1>have I do have one from from from One Tree Hill,

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:15.279
<v Speaker 1>But I should answer it, yeah, answer I know. I

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:18.839
<v Speaker 1>never if she did, I would, oh, she's going to show.

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I'd be fine never ever talking to um A few

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>people on that show. So Lauren, I'm fine with never

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:32.920
<v Speaker 1>talking to Lauren again. We have gone our separate ways.

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Our lives are completely different. Um, so much has happened.

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm fine with never talking to her again. I'm fine

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:42.760
<v Speaker 1>with not talking to her little minions again, like, um,

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 1>you know right, been there, So I'm fine with that.

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:52.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm fine with you know, I love Kristen Cavalary, so

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 1>thankfully I do talk to her. Um. Yeah, and the reboot,

0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:59.879
<v Speaker 1>I'd be fine not talking to like Ni Like most

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 1>the cast, I sortly fine. I'm gonna take us to

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 1>a healthier place. Okay, all right. I tried giving her

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:25.920
<v Speaker 1>and I tried to rescue this night. Is there anyone

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 1>that you knew super super well during filming that you

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 1>are like most proud of the person they are today? Good?

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Good question. Um. I love Jen Bunny. She and I

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 1>have been my best friends since I was nineteen. We

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 1>had a very similar thing like falling out with Lauren,

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>and Lauren you know, kind of cut her off and gave,

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:51.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, treated her in a really unfair way, especially

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 1>being best friends since they were in like preschool. Um,

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 1>and she has become like a doctor and an incredible mom.

0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, she has all these accolades and I actually

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:03.400
<v Speaker 1>she has like a book coming out. So she's one

0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>of my closest friends. And I was so proud of

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 1>her for the life that she did. She went to USC,

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 1>She's incredibly smart, she's so sweet, she's a great wife,

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>great mom. So I'm very proud of her. I like that.

0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:20.319
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting to me to have you frame it. I

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 1>don't want to pot start here, but this is something

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:26.279
<v Speaker 1>I've never quite heard it put this way that it

0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:29.600
<v Speaker 1>was Lauren's show. Oh yeah, well wasn't it. Well never

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I would just see like some well it was obviously

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 1>a main character. I don't know that like the viewers

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.360
<v Speaker 1>really saw it. No, we didn't see it. Like to me,

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:41.240
<v Speaker 1>you were just as much a main character as Lauren

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 1>was as Audrina, Like you know what I mean, Like

0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:47.440
<v Speaker 1>there was some of it was more dominantly obviously spaced

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:50.400
<v Speaker 1>towards her and times, but like, I remember you just

0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:52.880
<v Speaker 1>as much as I remember her. But I'm going to

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:54.520
<v Speaker 1>back it up though, for you sex in the City

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 1>who shows it. Wow, that's hard for me because we

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.319
<v Speaker 1>all know how Bradshaw I am. So I'm saying, so

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:02.439
<v Speaker 1>it's like she's like the Bradshaw of the Hills because

0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:03.759
<v Speaker 1>I look at it and go, wait a minute, No,

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I didn't watch the show religiously. I saw some episodes,

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:10.760
<v Speaker 1>and I would say that she was the main character. Interesting. Yeah,

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:12.920
<v Speaker 1>so she was the narrator. It was her spin off

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:15.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be all about Lauren, and that was part

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 1>of that's true. I guess that was part of the

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 1>problem when we all had to start having more storylines, like,

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:24.400
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't supposed to be that way. It wasn't supposed

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:26.440
<v Speaker 1>to be like half the show about Spencer and I

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 1>half the show about Lauren. And that became a problem

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>for her and her team too. They're like, this is

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Lauren's show. And at a point MTV was like, well,

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:35.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, because Lauren's like, I'm going to quit the show,

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 1>um if Heidie and Spencer are on it. And I

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 1>think that was season three and so MTV told her

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>to walk and they're like, well, a show without Heidie

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 1>and Spencer anymore. And that became a really big division

0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:53.600
<v Speaker 1>in within the show. Well, that's jealousy anytime you're done

0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 1>with ego. That's I mean, that's because she wasn't bringing

0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:58.839
<v Speaker 1>enough of the what drama or whatever it was. I mean,

0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:02.360
<v Speaker 1>that's her own, Like I would say, we all remember

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 1>the mascara dripping moment. I well remember, And that was

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.120
<v Speaker 1>what was so unfortunate, is like I'm such a team

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 1>player and I'm such a best friend rider die that

0:40:12.239 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I just want like the best for everyone, you know,

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:16.360
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know. I wasn't in her position, and

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't my show and I wasn't the narrator. But

0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm just not really like that. So when she was

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 1>like you need to stop dating Spencer and like all

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 1>these hard things that started happening, I was like, wait

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 1>a minute. You had a boyfriend that I didn't like

0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 1>that I had to live with for a year, and

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I would never have said to you like stop dating him,

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:35.839
<v Speaker 1>or we're not going to be friends or I don't

0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:37.399
<v Speaker 1>want to hear about him. I'm like, that's the time

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 1>you need me the most as a friend. That's when

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I need to step up. That's when you need your girl,

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 1>That's when you need a shoulder to cry on at

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:46.560
<v Speaker 1>any time. Like I'm here for you whenever. However much

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 1>time you want to spend with him, that's great, And

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I would stay at the apartment like half the time

0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 1>and really strategically make sure to have time with her

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:57.279
<v Speaker 1>because she did just go through a huge breakup a

0:40:57.280 --> 0:41:00.640
<v Speaker 1>few months before, and you know, she was going through

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 1>a hard time or you know, had just had gone

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:05.840
<v Speaker 1>through a hard time. So I spent like half my

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:08.799
<v Speaker 1>first Valentin's Dave with Spencer with Lauren, and she was

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:11.279
<v Speaker 1>still mad at me, and I was like, this is

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:14.839
<v Speaker 1>getting out of control, Like I'm sorry, There's not much

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 1>more I can do at this point, and she just

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:19.359
<v Speaker 1>it was really unfortunate, and I was like, I didn't

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 1>even think you were like this, and you know, that's

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:26.359
<v Speaker 1>that was the real division in our friendship, and so

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 1>on cameras she started like kind of doing things and

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:31.799
<v Speaker 1>saying things and I had no idea. She was saying

0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:34.399
<v Speaker 1>to MTV like I don't want hide on the show

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 1>anymore and stuff like that. So it was unfortunate, the

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 1>whole fallout of our friendship. And I know we were

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:43.799
<v Speaker 1>young and things like that, but it just I would

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 1>never have been a friend like that to her. Sure,

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 1>that's tough. That's I'm curious. Like with forgiveness too. We

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:52.399
<v Speaker 1>were talking about this one of our episodes, like where

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:55.840
<v Speaker 1>what's your stance on it, Like do you think is

0:41:55.880 --> 0:42:00.240
<v Speaker 1>it forgetting? Like do you forgive or like what? Yeah? Yeah,

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:02.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think forgiveness is more for yourself, you know,

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:05.279
<v Speaker 1>Like I have love for Laura, and I really do.

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate all the time that we had. And you know,

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:10.399
<v Speaker 1>there's other people in my life too that I've hurt

0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:13.239
<v Speaker 1>me as much or more than her. And it's all

0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:16.799
<v Speaker 1>about moving forward in life because forgiveness only makes you

0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:19.560
<v Speaker 1>feel bad. I'm sure that person doesn't even care anymore,

0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:23.640
<v Speaker 1>you know. So I think forgiveness is super important for yourself.

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 1>And you know, obviously I mean not obviously, but I

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 1>also I am a Christian. I'm pretty spiritual, and I

0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:32.480
<v Speaker 1>think that it's just a good thing to do, and

0:42:32.520 --> 0:42:34.439
<v Speaker 1>I want to teach my kids to be that way

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:37.759
<v Speaker 1>and I want to model that myself. And sometimes forgiveness

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 1>is constant. It's not like a one time, Oh I

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:42.960
<v Speaker 1>forgive you and now everything's fine. Like sometimes you get

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:44.920
<v Speaker 1>those feelings again and you get angry and you have

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:47.840
<v Speaker 1>to pray about it or talk about it or what

0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:51.080
<v Speaker 1>meditate however people do, and it's like, Okay, actually I

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:53.399
<v Speaker 1>wish that person the best. I'm going to let that go.

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they're hurt, there's other things going on. So I

0:42:57.160 --> 0:42:59.880
<v Speaker 1>think forgiveness is one of the most important parts of life,

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 1>and it helps you to move forward in other relationships

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:07.480
<v Speaker 1>and it helps just it only helps what also factories,

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:10.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, boundaries are also really good. So with forgiveness

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 1>does come boundaries, right, We're a big fan of boundaries

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 1>in the share what do you do when you get stuck?

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Like how does Heidi? How does Heidie get out of

0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:19.320
<v Speaker 1>a rut? When you know you're down about something or

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:22.400
<v Speaker 1>motherhood or things didn't even get that you know, show

0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:24.520
<v Speaker 1>you on it, or like what do you what do

0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 1>you do to go okay? Like I'm gonna be okay.

0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm very big into prayer, so even if it's like

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:34.160
<v Speaker 1>two minutes, so I'll just go pray about it. I

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:38.400
<v Speaker 1>think crying is great, I think so baptisting to cry

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 1>and let it out, but just to take those that time,

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 1>even with the kids, Like if I'm getting frustrated or

0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 1>i feel like, you know, if Gunner's having a tantrum

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.960
<v Speaker 1>and Rikers crying and Spencer saying something, I'm just like

0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:54.560
<v Speaker 1>need to take a deep breath, let this out of

0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:57.239
<v Speaker 1>my body, Like when you start feeling it, it's just

0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 1>time to kind of a little so care. So I

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:03.760
<v Speaker 1>think quick self care is an important thing because sometimes

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:06.839
<v Speaker 1>you don't have ten minutes to yourself. You know, it's like, okay,

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:13.160
<v Speaker 1>you just need thirty seconds to breathe. What is your

0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:16.120
<v Speaker 1>top self care at this point? Like I know your postpartum,

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 1>You're you've got five year old Gunner, You've got Spencer,

0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:22.560
<v Speaker 1>who is a character in himself, Like, you've got a lot,

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 1>You're living in a frat house essentially, So tell me,

0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 1>tell me if you get like five to ten minutes,

0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 1>we're praying, like is it running? Is it? Like? What

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 1>is what is it for you? Right now? That just

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 1>feels like okay. Back to Heidi. My favorite thing to

0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:40.880
<v Speaker 1>do is be a nature So for me, it's like

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 1>taking the dogs on a walk is the best because

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:45.560
<v Speaker 1>we live right by a trail and I can just

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 1>like be up in the mountains quickly, So that is

0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:52.279
<v Speaker 1>really important for me. I try to do that every day. Also,

0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:54.799
<v Speaker 1>I can take Gunner up there and then he's like

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:57.280
<v Speaker 1>playing with sticks and trees, and then I can also

0:44:57.320 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 1>just like look at the clouds and relax and right

0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 1>you're sleeping on me, so that's important for me. It's

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:06.480
<v Speaker 1>just being outside even for a little bit, and then

0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I only get a short amount of prayer time, so

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:13.239
<v Speaker 1>I just try to do that even for like two

0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:17.280
<v Speaker 1>minutes a day. But like you're saying right now, self cares,

0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:20.480
<v Speaker 1>it's a little tricky. I'm trying to work out again, too,

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 1>So three days a week, I'm trying to work out

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:26.319
<v Speaker 1>with a trainer and have that time, and I have

0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:28.360
<v Speaker 1>a babysitter come because I don't want to rely on

0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Spencer being able to deal with the baby crying because

0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:33.040
<v Speaker 1>he like freaks out. So I'm like, all right, I

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 1>don't need to deal with you and a baby crying

0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 1>and trying to work out, So self care sometimes it's

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:42.600
<v Speaker 1>just having someone come hold the baby. That preventative. It's

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:46.840
<v Speaker 1>preventative resentment disorder, is what I'm trying to. Like, I

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 1>hire the help so I don't have to depend on you,

0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:50.399
<v Speaker 1>so I can keep liking you and I can still

0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:54.560
<v Speaker 1>work out. Okay, right, I'm with you. I can't remember

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:56.279
<v Speaker 1>if I said this on the show or I know

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:58.759
<v Speaker 1>I said it in therapy, but I've been struggling lately

0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 1>with prayer because I've been kind of, you know, frustrated

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 1>with certain things like work wise, and so someone I

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:06.239
<v Speaker 1>think it was my therapist, she was like, you know,

0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:08.719
<v Speaker 1>just asked like she's like, be really direct with your

0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:12.400
<v Speaker 1>prayer with God. And so I I went up to

0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 1>my new house that's being built and I was standing

0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:17.200
<v Speaker 1>there and you know, I started to pray. But then

0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 1>when I when I was praying, I was like, hey, God,

0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 1>like you know God, like I really like I would

0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:22.960
<v Speaker 1>love this. But then I start I switched and I

0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:25.439
<v Speaker 1>told my therapist. I was like, I stopped praying because

0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:27.759
<v Speaker 1>but then I was like because I said, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so grateful for my kids, and it's like I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>grateful for this, And so then I felt bad asking

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<v Speaker 1>for something because I've already been blessed with so much.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, how ungrateful am I? Then I'm asking

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<v Speaker 1>for something even more when you've blessed me with this.

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<v Speaker 1>So then I just spent like fifteen minutes like fighting

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<v Speaker 1>myself and then be like all right, well whatever, like

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<v Speaker 1>just do you just do you when you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do you? And then like I was like it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be on your time anyways, Okay, cool, Bye, like, but

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for everything, like did you even talk to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it feels like you had a one side of conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>But I like was really battling with like asking for

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, asking God for it, but then also

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<v Speaker 1>like being like, but thank you so much for everything

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<v Speaker 1>you've given me. So then I felt bad asking for more,

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<v Speaker 1>like you how greedy of you? But then my therapist goes, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why do you feel like you don't deserve more? And

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<v Speaker 1>then I started like crying. That was like my you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my whole belief, like well I don't I don't deserve

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<v Speaker 1>the happy ending. I don't get the happy ending, like

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<v Speaker 1>that just doesn't happen, like something will fall through, something

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<v Speaker 1>will like not work like. And then she's like, but

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<v Speaker 1>what if you can you can be grateful and also

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<v Speaker 1>ask for more too, and so I yeah, and and

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<v Speaker 1>but I would really like have found myself struggling with that,

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<v Speaker 1>like with prayer. You know, sometimes I have been there myself,

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<v Speaker 1>and also God has like convicted my heart sometimes to

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<v Speaker 1>not ask for things, like I've gone to prayer and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, all right, I need to ask for this.

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<v Speaker 1>And then sometimes like when I have felt it as

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying it's felt not right, Like, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I just need to pause and be in a

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<v Speaker 1>season or just have a few days of gratitude and

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<v Speaker 1>then come back to it. So I've also done that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, Actually, God just convicted me in January.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, just do a month of gratitude prayers.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I always ask, I'm a big asker. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Lord, oh maybe we're not lottery. Does I

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<v Speaker 1>want it? And I'll do good things? You know? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm like my mom nade the new house, come

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<v Speaker 1>on talking. So I can't handle you. But sometimes also

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<v Speaker 1>God has convicted me, like why don't you just take

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<v Speaker 1>a few days or even like this moment and just

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<v Speaker 1>relax and just grateful Because what God can work on

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<v Speaker 1>in your heart with just gratitude sometimes leads you to

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<v Speaker 1>a different ask. Right, So maybe whatever you're asking needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be tweaked a little bit and by going back

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<v Speaker 1>to gratitude and just praising and like I'll be like,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for my toes, thank you for the air

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<v Speaker 1>and the oxygen. Thank you we're not having a new

0:48:54.360 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 1>heal or war right now, you know, thank you. My

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<v Speaker 1>kids have food, so sometimes it is those bags six

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<v Speaker 1>that God just works on your heart in mysterious ways, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's so cool about God, Like we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why he does things or what we're supposed to pray for.

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<v Speaker 1>But sometimes it's just also an inner peace, Like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you're not having peace while you're asking for something and

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<v Speaker 1>He just needs like to It's like an adjustment with

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<v Speaker 1>a chiropractor. Maybe just needs to crack this little thing

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<v Speaker 1>and then have you come an hour later. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>a few days later. I don't know, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's interesting. Like when you're starting to feel conflicted with prayer,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's because that's God. Sometimes it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>be still, like I am God, I got this, I

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<v Speaker 1>know what you want. I have something better coming for you.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe I don't know, but it is always interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I love that, and thank you for speaking

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<v Speaker 1>on it too. I love we Actually the guest before

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<v Speaker 1>you on another episode we just talked about her faith,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just I love that people are talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like conversational prayer too. That's something like I

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<v Speaker 1>think we miss. I think we've think it has to

0:50:00.440 --> 0:50:03.799
<v Speaker 1>be so officially started, so officially ending and so like

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just be in my kitchen and I'm just like

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<v Speaker 1>I feel sad, and I don't even necessarily ask for anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like I want to tell you because I

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<v Speaker 1>know you know, but also just because I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to like do whatever, like so it's just like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of conversational. I'm not it's like all day. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>learned that when I was going through my divorce because

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like lonely and I was like I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of want to date God, which sounds weird, but then

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<v Speaker 1>I would just be like, all right, what do I

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<v Speaker 1>want to have for like, you know, just like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of conversational and it feels a little less official, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you don't feel like you have to request anything

0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:35.520
<v Speaker 1>or maybe pinpoint of feeling and you can just say

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<v Speaker 1>like this is it, like the beautiful surrender over and

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<v Speaker 1>over again. I'm totally with you on that, Like Jesus

0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:44.200
<v Speaker 1>is my best friend. That's how I feel, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And it says like like you're saying, I always am

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<v Speaker 1>like the love of my life, You're the lover of

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<v Speaker 1>my soul because nobody knows me deeper and more real

0:50:54.960 --> 0:50:57.719
<v Speaker 1>and less judgmental, Like that's the thing I don't with

0:50:57.800 --> 0:51:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Christianity or any spirituality. People are like so critical of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you're missing the whole point. It's not to

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<v Speaker 1>be judgmental and critical like you're missing it, Like what

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<v Speaker 1>on one, maybe go work on yourself there, but like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe start a genesis. I don't know. Jecking got me

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<v Speaker 1>okay on a major projections. I got something going on

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<v Speaker 1>with God. Okay, we got our own deal here. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with that all day. I'm just like, all right, God,

0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:23.800
<v Speaker 1>help me find a parking spot, like I have this

0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:27.759
<v Speaker 1>praper park. I'm like, however, I'm going through it like

0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't happen Diesel official. It's more like a relationship.

0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:33.440
<v Speaker 1>It's just like your friend hanging out with you. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. Well, Heidi, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>coming on. I adore you. So. I'm glad we've met

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<v Speaker 1>now in this stage of our lives and not me

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<v Speaker 1>running into mirrors, mirror, not baby bird Janna hitting the mirror.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot wait to bring this up to Brodie too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go yeah, buddy, yeah, and we're all in

0:51:57.680 --> 0:52:03.160
<v Speaker 1>better places for what was so nice. Thank you guys

0:52:03.160 --> 0:52:07.480
<v Speaker 1>for having me on and anytime you want mom talk anything,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fully here so I love it precious, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks girl, appreciate you. Bye okay by girl hie girl