1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio Podcast. 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: All Right, guys, catch my breath? All right, are you 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: good there? KB? Whoa thirty weeks you guys were closing 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: in downs the gun. Yeah, because you can technically, I 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: mean technically technically I've had friends. Okay, what was it, 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: twenty four weeks? She just get dry breast one? No, 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: I filled them in. Thanks for noticing. She looks really pretty. 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: She has good makeup? Did good makeup? I need you 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: look really refreshed, like you look like yourself still, just 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: like very refreshed version, which is my favorite kind of 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: makeup for people. I just got some new just like yeah, 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: like moisturize her anyway. Thanks. Yeah, I was just like sorry. 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: It was the first time I looked at you, and 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I like it. Really sorry 15 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: back to you, KB, Apologies were taking that away from you. 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: It's a big moment. No, it's just a big body. 17 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: Uh No, I was saying, because we've gosh, well, how 18 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: how young were those twins that are people? Twenty four 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: micro which is my girl. Yeah, they had like a 20 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: zero or like a two percent, and but they both survived. 21 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: I shouldn't be sorry. I should This has been a no. 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: But I know, but I'm saying, but like, at this point, 23 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: your baby could survive. I feel really like there is 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: a point in pregnancy where you get to where you 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: just started a little deeper. Yeah, a little until you 26 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: got the stairs and then you're back out of breath 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: again and then you get out of breath. Yeah, but 28 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: it's good, so good. This has been my most um 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: reassuring baby of the three. Real love the four really 30 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: but um yeah, because I it moves so much. Oh so, 31 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: I never wonder if if it's okay in there. I 32 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: think she's like, hey, just so you know, like, I'm here, Mom, 33 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: I'm here. Danna always thinks it's a girl. It's for 34 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: sure a girl, Like I will get a boy. I 35 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: will put money on it. That's a girl. Are you 36 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: a good guesser? Mmm? I mean I have a fifty 37 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: fifty shots, right. I usually am wrong, So whatever I 38 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: guess is usually a sit for people. That's why I 39 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: wonder if you're like, yeah, I'm undefeated. What were you guessing? Oh? 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: I think it's a girl too. I've been correct with 41 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: my own children, but everybody else is I'm horrible. Oh interesting, Yeah, 42 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: I feel like I can like call It's like my 43 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: sense of direction. You know direction you do. Thank you 44 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: every time we're out of town. Just trust me, I 45 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: know where I'm going. Thank you. Don't even meet a map, 46 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: I just sniff it out. We're all trying to get 47 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: the you know, it's like it's this way, guys. I 48 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: don't know. I've just always been you know why. It's 49 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: because I lived in the boonies from all of my 50 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: friends and at that time, that was pre map quest. 51 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: I try to figure out how to get to figure 52 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: it out. It was pre map quest, Yeah, print it 53 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: out just to figure it out. No, I think it 54 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: was like so I was the oldest of the drivers 55 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: and so I think it was. I remember printing it out, 56 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: like going it going to someone's house. But it was 57 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: like very new. Yeah, like because I was like having 58 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: to write out mapst got me in the biggest trouble 59 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: of my life. What happened. So my best friend Julie 60 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: Cooper and I Mattie, she is still my best friend. 61 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: Shout out to UK. I've never heard of her territorial 62 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: here for it. So we printed out we were going 63 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: to sneak off to Michigan State oh uh huh, which 64 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: is like not like me. I get very nervous. I'm 65 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: a rule follower. And we printed up the directions from 66 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: her house to Michigan State and left them on the 67 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: printer and her mom was like, you're going to go 68 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: to Michigan State tonight and we were like, no, no way, 69 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: and she like holds up the paper, what is this for? 70 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: And I was like uh oh, and we were busted 71 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: and then we were forbidden to see each other for 72 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: like ever, isn't that senior? A senior senior in high school? 73 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: Do you ever have Do you have a defining moment 74 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: from childhood or something? Because mine came up just a 75 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: couple days ago and I was walking with the kids, 76 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: like I remembered something from our child hood that I've 77 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: just I've it's always like it's it's just an interest story, 78 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: just kind of like that where you get caught, Okay, okay, 79 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: so it's where you get caught, yeah, and I got 80 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: caught as a kid, but it's I mean, it's years 81 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: is years is better, but it's I was the same 82 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: mind for Kat can think about hers, but I me 83 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: and my girlfriend Lindsay Crocker. Who did you met her. Yeah, 84 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: I've never met her, so she's acceptable. Yeah, she's she 85 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: came on the best one time. She's I mean, I 86 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: mean we're not like you know, it was Lindsay Crocker. 87 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: You're not like me and you go ahead there. It 88 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: was Lindsay Crocker and Mary Dodge, and I was kind 89 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: of always like so it was like me and Lindsay 90 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: were the closest and then when there was the three 91 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: of us, I was the outside. Okay, she was also 92 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: close to Mary too, long story short, and Lindsay I 93 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: was probably Jolie's age, like seven, six or seven. We 94 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: wanted to do a dance show for our neighborhood and 95 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: put on a dance like in the common area. So 96 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: days on brand, are you okay? So I had we 97 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: had made these flyers. We came up with this amazing 98 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: dance in her basement of course perfect and my I 99 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: wasn't allowed to cross the street like without a parent, 100 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: and so what I did, and so my because we 101 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: were had to hand out the flyers, right, I mean, 102 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: when I go to the neighbor's house, like to give 103 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: the flyers. Like, so my mom found out that you know, 104 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: she saw the flyer in the other like in the mailbox, 105 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: I think, or whatever, and I got grounded, and um, 106 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: we never did our dance. But you know what's funny 107 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: is I never really canceled it, so I don't even 108 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: know that. I still wonder if anyone showed up, huge group, 109 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: everyone in hand, wondering where. But I just remember getting 110 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: like I couldn't cross the street. And so yesterday or 111 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: the other day, when I was walking with the kids, 112 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: I said, please stop at the stop sign, but they 113 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: had then run across the street and gone home, and 114 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: I was like, don't ever do that again. I was like, 115 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: without mommy, because these cars I just go by so fast. 116 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: But you know, and I wanted to be like and 117 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 1: I had to cancel a dancers idea. They got grounding 118 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: Kramer Cracker Done show was a big new show that 119 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: was just Kramer and Cracker wasn't invited. He dodged one them. 120 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: Thinking about all my kids running around the neighborhood right now, 121 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: probably the streets different are a little older. So I've 122 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: got Jace who doesn't look across with Jolie, and so 123 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, you can't just run brother across the street 124 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: like that, like without looking you like more of the 125 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: like Ramsey runs across the street to her, but like 126 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: around a cold a sax, don't worry about it. Yeah, 127 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: we're on the main like yeah, you are same, drive 128 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: like no, no, like a highway basic and they like 129 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: drive fast. And I'm like that parent that you're that one. 130 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm the old lady in the neighborhood. That's like waving 131 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: my hand. Yeah. But it's like your kids live here. 132 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: We had so many kids that run around in here 133 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: that I just am like, you know, so I put 134 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: my little uh turtle, I love your turtle with the 135 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: flag in the middle of the street. You got one 136 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: to um. All I can think about right now is 137 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: I was not allowed to talk to boys on the phone. 138 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: It was fifth grade. I remember I was ten. Fifth grade. 139 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: A boy called this is back in the day when 140 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: like the answering machine. That was the worst. When you're 141 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: sitting for dinner and then all of a sudden, it's like, hey, 142 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: it's Sam just calling. And I'm like, Sam looked really 143 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: pretty today, choir, but go ahead, um. But Chris Blank 144 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: called me. I just remember, and I don't remember what 145 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: he wanted, but I remember my mom. Well, I went 146 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: to the other room to get it. I remember walking 147 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: in the hallway and her meeting me in the hallway. 148 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: I mean, like, why was he calling? And I made 149 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: up a lie like he needed something for school. Well, 150 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: she was listening the entire time on the other way 151 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: in Mine's not liar liar pants on fire? Yeah, Chris 152 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: l Guys, Maggie went out on Broadway the other day. 153 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: She did? She did you guys ready for a few 154 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: of that? I have not, so I only listened to 155 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: one of them. But are you ready? She's precious. Here 156 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: we go. I've got the videos too, And this is 157 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: gonna just be one second. I mean, this is I'm 158 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: gonna show this video. I mean she's she's a bridesmaid. 159 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: She's got some purple hair. Wait was she really a bridesmaid? Yeah? 160 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: I mean she's wearing the I feel like you can't 161 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: wear the t R if you're not a bridesmaid? What 162 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: I didn't if she was like posing maid? What do 163 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: you mean bridesmaid? Because this is the most okay, But 164 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: if you're in Nashville, this is a very undercover look. 165 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: If you didn't want to be noticed because a bridesmaid 166 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: except ath Carolina Eline, what is your biggest dick in 167 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: a relationship when they don't know how to clean up 168 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: after themselves in the dishwasher, put your close in the hammer, right, 169 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: it's not that difficult. I agree, don't you agree? I 170 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: do agree wholeheartedly. Payton. And my question is what is 171 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: a good agent? Get married? Oh? Pay good question? Pay In? 172 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: Do you know my gutens was it? Never? Never? Never? Run? Payton? No? 173 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: What is your I would say thirty two. That was 174 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: my first divorce. I mean I would say thirty two 175 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: or thirty five, Like I like thirty five, I feel 176 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: thirty five. I don't know, because there's things I liked 177 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: about being like well, having kids early, being married early, 178 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: but having kids early. Um, but i'd say, like twenty 179 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: eight to thirty. I still think I would have dined. 180 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: I want you to be like solidly in your thirties. Yeah, 181 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: I need a solid thirty two because yeah, the food. 182 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: But it also depends where you're at, right, So like 183 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't fully there yet, but I don't think you 184 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: really get there till your thirties anyways. Maybe I don't know. 185 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: But then when you look a cat, well I was 186 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: like this at eighteen, so like you know, like old, 187 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: like acting grandma at the age of eighteen, but most 188 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: people are. I do think it just matters. I think 189 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: it matters what you know to be sure of about yourself. Yeah, 190 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: for sure. M like I I knew when I was 191 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: getting married the first time it was not the time 192 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: same and I look back and I'm like why, But 193 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: it was like such a smart choice, like to people's plans, 194 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: that was mine. Oh yep, staying on branded people. This 195 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: question is from from from from Broadway. Hi, I'm store 196 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: me up from South Carolina, and my question is way 197 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: in a relationship should you use are doing your partners laundry? Never? Ever? 198 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: Also never never, someone's gonna wrap that up never never 199 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: never a right three nevers And that was good from Broadway. 200 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: I like personally, like I have I done? No, I 201 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 1: haven't done Alan's laundry. H Allen strikes me as a 202 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: do it yourself first and he does his laundry, and 203 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: I think he's thrown mine in a few times. Oh 204 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: he did. He threw mine in and then he left 205 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: it kind of in a pile, the dry pile. And 206 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: I don't like the dry pile because then it's then 207 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: it's wrinkled. So I'm like in my mind, I'm like, 208 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: let's I didn't say anything because it's like great is 209 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: sweet thought at the same time, like I will just 210 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: rewash it. M go, don't touch my stuff. I shouldn't 211 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: be married. I don't. I'm probably just pregnant and tired. 212 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: But I really this person to his own laundry he 213 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: does now do it. I will I do all of 214 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: ours if his isn't there to do. But he's usually 215 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: in and out repacking so quick that he's like let 216 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: me to he just does allowed. I have a question though, 217 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: because you do the kids laundry? Do you do the 218 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: kids lundry? Yeah? Yeah, same obviously. Yeah, it'd be nice 219 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: if they would. I know you're still gonna say no 220 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: to this, but we have to do like double laundry, 221 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: so it would be nice if they picked up the 222 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 1: slack too. I'm about to cast my husband publicly go 223 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: work because he's like I caught us up on laundry 224 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: the other day and I was like, okay, dry pile, 225 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: heaping dry pile on top of like the laundry room counter, 226 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: and I was like, so that's not caught up. Caught 227 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: up to me is like those items are then in 228 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: their room and roy GBIV in the closet hanging that's 229 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: caught up. So those are done, but those are not folded, 230 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: and they're not put in a basket, and they're not 231 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: up to the next level. Mine get folded on the 232 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: kitchen table. Okay, Sota doesn't put him step put it away? 233 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: No no, no really. Now, if I'm like in the 234 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: middle of putting up a bunch of laundry and I say, hey, 235 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: can you help me take some of this up? Like 236 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: take he will. But in his defense, the girls are 237 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: pretty much the same size. They're literally like small medium, 238 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: you know whatever. It makes me more mad when he 239 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: puts it up, So I'm fine with that that I 240 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: would like it in the basket. But he can't even 241 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: separate the girls. He literally doesn't know who's who's and 242 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: the girls at all. Yeah, Like I find my t 243 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: shirts and loves pile and I'm just like, so that's 244 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: just gonna get frustrated. So I am thankful for the 245 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: folding though. That's nice. Yeah, the dry pile is like 246 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: all done. I was like, um, I go in and 247 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: Everest is like staring at me. Cool. Sometimes I'm guilty 248 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: of that with nixt laundry though, because I need to 249 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: move on from his and it's still in the dryer. 250 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: So sometimes i'll do the dry pile you dry pilot 251 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: sometimes only sometimes I appreciate No, it's not mean I 252 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: appreciate alan though. I'll sit down on the couch and 253 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: I'll start folding the kids clothes or my clothes or whatever, 254 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: and he immediately grabs something and I go no, no, no no, no, no, 255 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: no no no. He's like, let me help. He's like, 256 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm just saying like no. And then now I don't 257 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: say no, I'm just like good, like sure, like if 258 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: that's so sweet. He doesn't have to I'm not asking 259 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: him to, but I just I appreciate the well. And 260 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, like if 261 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 1: they're willing to help and they're trying to help, even 262 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: if they don't know the way, that we should appreciate that. 263 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: And I know it's not easy to do all the time, 264 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: especially for me. I think it's it's uh, I like, 265 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: and this is something I'll say too, where I like, 266 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: like he's seen in the mornings, that's the very first 267 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: thing I do as I empty the dishwasher, very first thing, 268 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: same human because I don't like a dish in my 269 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: saying right. And I know we talked about this before, 270 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: but um, so that's the very first thing that I do. 271 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: So that way the kids can then put their their 272 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: stuff in the in the dishwasher. Um. And you know, 273 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: one of the mornings I had was just like running 274 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: late or whatever. That was the first thing that he did. 275 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: So I was like he it's like he saw like 276 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: my routine and like I was just like oh. I 277 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: ended up being like thank you for that, like you 278 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: would you saw what I do and then you yeah, 279 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: I did it without even like asking her, because that's 280 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: the something I don't like when people ask questions. Just 281 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: just do it because when you ask, I'm like, no, no no, 282 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: I got it. Yeah, always I got it, and then 283 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: I'm tired. I got it. But what I mean to 284 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: say is when I say I got it, I mean 285 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: yes please. Yeah. When I say I got it'd be 286 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: like ike out yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. When I say 287 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: I got it, I got it, that's yeah. That's that's 288 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: where you have to ask for I'm trying to get 289 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: better by asking. I think we should get better at 290 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: saying yes please. Yeah. I'm trying really hard because you 291 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: almost can't get mad at the other person if they oh, yeah, 292 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: no they don't. And then but then you're frustrated because 293 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: it's like, but I really wanted you to do do. I'm 294 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: up in third times a charm and by the third baby, 295 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be like, yes, I'll take any help 296 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: you can give me. I thought you talking about my marriages. 297 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: Oh no, this is the final marriage? Oh amen, mine marriage? 298 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: Or do you have any y? No? It was like, no, honey, 299 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm settled into mine. How has anyone had therapy with 300 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: Amy lately? You guys are so much to unpack. I 301 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: haven't even processed. Huh. Oh. I got in the car. 302 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: It was one of those where I just got in 303 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: the car, very grateful, heart very heavy, very grateful, very empowering, 304 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: very tiring. And I got in the car and I 305 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: didn't even want the air the sound of the fanom. 306 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,359 Speaker 1: I just drove and drank water and was like, okay, 307 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: Like it's a lot my voyage of not trusting people 308 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: or men, right, right? Did you do MDR today? I 309 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: did a lot of big MDAR. If I could frame 310 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: it for you guys, I would frame it. Maybe by 311 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: next week I can frame it it was just a lot. 312 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: Well let's put a little pin pin in that one 313 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: because we can. Yeah, something came up. I had therapy 314 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: yesterday with Amy and I cried a lot. I cried, 315 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: but it was something where yeah, it was just hard. 316 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: So anything else, Nope, we'll pin it too. Let's pin it. 317 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: Let's pin it. It's a lot to digest, like that's 318 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: the hardest part and a lot of like big revelations. 319 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: But then also just like, holy cow, I'm writing a 320 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: note for for ourselves to unpin therapy talk. Yeah, therapy, 321 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: but we're gonna switch gears because we have Heidi Pratt 322 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: coming on and I know you were a big Hills watcher. 323 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: I was. I watched uh some of it. I was 324 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: a Laguna Hills. Yeah, you know, we have Jason Waller 325 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: coming on, like he's gonna be sitting on the couch 326 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: with us. It's not crushy how I feel. It's just 327 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: I get excited Jason. Yeah, definitely not crushy. No no, no, 328 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: you're married, right. But I mean also, even if I 329 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: never had a cry, I don't have a lot of 330 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: celebrity crush It's fun. Fact, do you have one? I 331 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: had Matthew McConaughey, who I did too the greatest, And 332 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: then I heard he was stinky stinky. I didn't believe whatever, 333 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: It's probably just a rumor, but I needed something to 334 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: break my healthy obsession, so that was fine. Can we 335 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: just say something about the natural deodor and thing for 336 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: a second. It doesn't work well, So I'm really stinky, 337 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: Like I'm a naturally stinky person. I still have like 338 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: PTSD from X because I was He'd like, I'm like, 339 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: I know, I just feel like I never like so 340 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: I'd always like I know, I'd literally never noticed it 341 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: all the time. Like he I don't know, maybe he 342 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: just like hated me so much, but like I like 343 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: even my sense disgusted him. But like, I mean that 344 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: was like to the point where like Alan's like you 345 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: always smell so good, and I'm in my mind, I'm like, 346 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: are you just saying that because I stink, Like because 347 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: I'm just so ingrained that, like I have a bad 348 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: odor or something. So I'm like constantly like putting on 349 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: deodor and like all the time. And um So, but 350 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: there was this girl that worked, do't I don't I 351 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: say this? She was um at the house helping and 352 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: she wore a natural doutor. And again, some natural deodorants 353 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: might work for some people, but a lot of times 354 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: if you have that stink, what I've noticed is you're 355 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: just gonna it's gonna come out like pregnant. I it's 356 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: work well, and so yeah, and so I smell and 357 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's to the point where you can't even 358 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: You're like, like you can't breathe. And it's like and 359 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm very like smelly sensitive. And Jason's the same thing. 360 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: He's like, mom, what stinks? And I'm like, But then 361 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: when the person link sits on my couch and puts 362 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: their arm like I'm the thing, and I was like 363 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: and I was done, and I had to I had 364 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: to let the person go because I stunk. I couldn't say, like, 365 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: can you put on deodorant? How do how do you 366 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: have that conversation. It's interesting to me when people can't 367 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: smell themselves. I smell myself when I'm stinky, and then 368 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: I usually I would say, oh, I'm probably stinky. I'm 369 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: so paranoid about it. I'm not even that stinky. Really, 370 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: I just do my thing, and you will not me 371 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: doing natural deodorant because I have just I tried every 372 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: single one of them. I did three years natural deodorant. 373 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: None of it works for me my body chemistry. Yeah, 374 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: well that just went. Whyever we even get to deodorant. 375 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: Matthew McConaughey was not stinky. I don't know that Pert 376 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: ever smelled him in real life. Given the opportunity, I 377 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: would have loved the opportunity at once upon a time. 378 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: But do you have a celebrity crush? I used to 379 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: owe him and he's talked about that. But I don't 380 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: have a whole lot either. Yeah, it takes a lot 381 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, well, anybody anyways, moving on, we're gonna 382 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: get heidion. She married her celebrity crush, she sure did, 383 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk all things. Well. Hello, hey girl, 384 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: Hey did you just get didn't work out? You're in 385 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: your cute little like matching yoga set. Thank you. I'm 386 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: trying to get it in, but it's hard with feeding 387 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: and running around with this baby. And how's the baby now? 388 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: He's four months? Are you sleeping? I'm more than with Gunner. 389 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: So if I get like two hours straight three, I'm good. 390 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: It's crazy how we get so sleep deprived that I 391 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: feel like once we can get like a good two 392 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: or three hour chunk, then we start to feel like 393 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 1: we could run for office. Like it's like I got it, 394 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: no big deal. Spencer's like, oh, I woke up once 395 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: last night. I'm like, who are you talking to? Hi? 396 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: What do you mean? That's when I say to my husband, respectfully, 397 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: stop talking. Stop talking, girl. Thank you so much for 398 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: coming on the podcast. So a funny story we like, 399 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: and you will not remember this, but we met. Oh god, 400 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: how many years ago is that? I mean god, I'm 401 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: sam almost forty. I was like maybe twenty four, Like 402 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: I mean a long, long, long, long time ago. We 403 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: were at some club on sunset. It was you and Spencer, 404 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: and then someone set me and Brody up on a 405 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: blind date. So we're at this dinner and it was 406 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: like the worst. You were so sweet, but it was 407 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: the worst blind date ever with me and Brody, Like 408 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: the absolute worst, and the worst thing about it was 409 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: Probably one of my most embarrassing moments was that night, 410 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: because I was like, just we were not vibing at all, 411 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: and I'm like, he said he said something to me. 412 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: I was like, that's it, I'm leaving. But there were 413 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: mirrors on the walls. Okay, so I kind of get 414 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: up in what we had already finished our dinner, right 415 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: and like you guys were like somewhere or whatever. We 416 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: were sitting out like in a booth area or whatever, 417 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: and he had said something to me, and I was 418 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: like whatever, Like I'm out of here. So I go 419 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: marching towards the exit sign. Well, little do I know, 420 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: the exit sign walks me right in. It's the reflection. 421 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: It was all a mirror, and so I slam I 422 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: walk right into like a mirror. It's horrible. Was that 423 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: it was the one lacross from like the Shell station 424 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: on like Laurel Canyon, was the one right on the 425 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: right set. So when you'd come, if you're coming away 426 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: from the valley, knows the other one like the other 427 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: privilege privilege, yeah or whatever, Like it was like that was, 428 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, it was so embarrassing. And that's the 429 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: last I saw of you or not did you just 430 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: turn around and walk the other way. I did not 431 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: look back to see if someone saw me. Oh, but 432 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure someone saw me walk right into that mirror. 433 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: I felt like I was in a funny house, Like 434 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: I was thinking that a fun house. Fun house, yeah, 435 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: funny whatever, fun Okay, But the transition to two have 436 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: you found it to be difficult or where are you at? 437 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: Because I struggled with the transition to two And how 438 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: old is Gunner? Let's start there, Okay, So Gunner is five, 439 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: which I was at first really concerned that he got 440 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: to be too far of an age difference because my 441 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: sister and I are three years and I wanted them 442 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: to kind of kind of like grow up closer and 443 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: to have each other in the house longer. But five 444 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: years has been great. I can't imagine having him younger 445 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: because Gunner is a lot, but you know, like he 446 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: wants so much of our attention and we've given it 447 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: to him so much for five years, and writer he's 448 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: fitting right in. So I think when he gets a 449 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: little older and there's more of a schedule, it will 450 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: be great. But this newborn stage has been a little challenging, 451 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: and Spencer's really stepped out and been so great at 452 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: doing a lot with Gunner. But I feel guilty that 453 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm not there as much with him, because like I'm 454 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: the one who woke up with him all the time, 455 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: and I'm the one who would make sure to put 456 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: him to bed last. And you know, I just had 457 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: so much in my life revolving around Gunner. So Gunner's 458 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: done a really good job transitioning. But I feel like 459 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: for me, it's just it is hard being fouled in 460 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: the two directions. But I love it too, It's sure, 461 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: it's I love chaos and challenges obviously, Well girl, I 462 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: mean you've lived You've lived a lot of that very publicly, right, 463 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: so I feel like you're probably an expert on it. 464 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: And I'm curious, like with all the you know, new 465 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: streaming platforms and you know, the people doing the podcast 466 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: and talking about the hills, and it is it hard 467 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 1: for you to have to kind of hear or relive 468 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: things or you kind of like whatever, that's the past 469 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: and this is who I am today, and like, I'm 470 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: not going to let that affect where I've gone. I 471 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: think it's both because obviously, when you're doing like a 472 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: recap of a show, you're kind of having to like 473 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: go back and live things and moments that you wouldn't. 474 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: But in my everyday life it doesn't affect me because 475 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: I have the friends that I have, I have my marriage. 476 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: I mean, we've been together for sixteen years. You know, 477 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: we have two kids. I have a great family, so 478 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 1: my everyday life, it doesn't affect me. But then when 479 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: sometimes people bring it up where you have to talk 480 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: about certain things, obviously God brings it up. Are you pregnant? 481 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: I am so pregnant. I feel so extra pregnant in 482 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: this moment. Actually, I feel stuck in my body. Is 483 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: it obvious that I'm stuck in my body hiding because 484 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: I I wouldn't even know unless you were rocking and 485 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: holding your stomach, because from here pregnant at all. But 486 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: then I'm seeing the rocking and well, the baby is 487 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: like really in this moving stage that I just feel 488 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: like one of us is dedicated to you and the 489 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 1: other one of us is having a full blown party 490 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: in my abdomen. So I'm trying so hard congraduations. We're 491 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: not finding out it's our third So this has been 492 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: really fun, but I'm it's interesting because I have a 493 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: four year old boy. Janna and I our girls are 494 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: three weeks apart and our boys are three months apart, 495 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: so we live very similar life. So I need her 496 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: to catch up with me and get on the third quickly. 497 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: So we're not so distant, but my son will be 498 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: almost five. So it's interesting to hear you talk about 499 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: Gunner like, you know, because they are like the little 500 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: loves of our lives. My daughter is older and I'm 501 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: obsessed with my son, and I just can't imagine having 502 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: another boyfriend. So that's got to open your heart in 503 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: a different way. It's so true. This morning, Spencer said something. 504 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: He was like, you're not stressing me out or whatever, 505 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: because he just got his blood taken and he's like 506 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: too stressed out. And I was like, you know, that's 507 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: an internal conversation. I don't mean you like saying that 508 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: I am stressing you out and that you're not stressed 509 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: out and anyway, right or Gunner goes up and punches 510 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,959 Speaker 1: Spencer and it's like, don't talk to my mom like that. 511 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: That's right, and in my mind and I try to 512 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: be like, I don't think you just stick up for me, 513 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: but thank you. And I was like this form, I'm 514 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: not saying anything, Just get in the car, thank you. 515 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: I love you. Come that's right. I'll be his client. 516 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: That's fine. I love it with you, with you and Spencer, 517 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: you know, being married for sixteen years, so wait, that 518 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: together for how long? Then together for sixteen, married for fourteen, 519 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: Mary Fortune, sixteen fortune. Okay, but I feel like when 520 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: you guys got married, there was so much like, oh, 521 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: this isn't gonna last. So now that you hit like 522 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: your fourteen are you kind of like middle finger to people? 523 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: I always felt that way. So I always felt like 524 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: I had nothing to prove with Spencer, and I just, 525 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: you know, I understand why people have thought that way 526 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: because on camera, and we were paid to have like 527 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: a very tumultuous relationship on camera, and so I see 528 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: why people thought that. But our real life was just 529 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: so different. So I knew our real relationship that we had, 530 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: like I would never have put up with any of that. 531 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 1: I would never have been in a relationship or like 532 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: my fiance is flirting with a girl in the club, 533 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: you know, like I have a zero tolerance policy. So 534 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: in real life it was just completely different. So it's 535 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: almost like we went on camera, you know, which obviously 536 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: you're an actress and you guys know, you know, it's 537 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: it's kind of acting, but then it bleeds into your 538 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: real life with people thinking that, and then you're really 539 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: kind of like that, well too far, You know. So anyways, 540 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: it was a balance. But my real life, I always 541 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: how we were and how I felt, and I just 542 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: knew it was a one time soulmate marriage that we 543 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: would you know, we'd have forever. So I just always 544 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: felt that way. But what area do you guys struggle 545 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: in the most? Like when you're like, oh, we keep 546 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: coming back to this one issue. Parenting is definitely tricky, 547 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: you know. It just takes your relationship to a whole 548 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: new level. So it's like, well, not only do I 549 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: need to confront you about this, I have to advocate 550 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: for this little child, you know. And you both want 551 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,479 Speaker 1: the right thing, and you both have different ways of 552 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: doing things. You know. I'm from a small town in 553 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: Colorado with my mom who is like very strict, zero policy, 554 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: you know, and Spencer wants to be fun dad. And 555 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: then when you're fun dad, the child doesn't give you 556 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,719 Speaker 1: the same amount of respect that they're getting long because 557 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: I am not going to take things, you know. So 558 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: he's like he only listens to you, and I'm like, well, 559 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: maybe you should not be so fun. And also parent 560 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: is the most challenging. But I had to have a 561 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: conversation when we first became parents, and it becomes more 562 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: relevant every year, is that we're the team. We have 563 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: some kind of division, we need to talk about it 564 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: later or something like that, but for the benefit of 565 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,239 Speaker 1: our child too, like we need to stand together. And 566 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: he's really come around to that. That's great. Spencer is 567 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: fun dad. Fun dad is really into hummingbirds. Can we 568 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: talk about it at all? Are we just not gonna 569 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: do that? I mean, I'm fascinated watching these videos, Like no, 570 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: it's crazy, like what is he doing? He's like a whisperer. 571 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: What is he even doing? Heidi? You know, it was 572 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: actually it's like a divine intervention because when I found 573 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: out that I was pregnant, we had one hummingbird at 574 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: our old house. We found this hummingbird nest and it 575 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: was so symbolic, like, oh, we're having a baby and 576 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: we just found this nest. And then one got eaten 577 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: and one lived and we had to rescue the hummingbird 578 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: and it was this whole thing. And then we moved 579 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: here and there were a lot of hummingbirds at this house, 580 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: and so Spencer already knew so much about them, and 581 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: he makes hummingbird nectar every day, which is sugar water 582 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: because the red dyet is poisonous for them actually like 583 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: kills them. So he makes it fresh every day and 584 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: then they just come and then he goes out there 585 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: with his feeders and they love it. And now Gunner's 586 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: in on it. It's like a whole operation. White you're 587 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: up too, I know, it's like a whole thing. And 588 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: you never and they get in the house and then 589 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: you have to like capture the hummingbird, but the right way, 590 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: and it's like, it's just it's the way I don't 591 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,239 Speaker 1: know about them in the house. It's interesting because I 592 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: was a hills watcher, so Spencer was always the villain. Yeah, 593 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, well, you just can't they get 594 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: they all have to shut up now because I always 595 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: the hummingbird whisper. It's like you, I mean, what is 596 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: more opposite day than the villain the guy that's literally 597 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: holding hummingbird babies in his hand like he obviously has 598 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: good energy. The hummingbirds are Yeah, so we shut that down. 599 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: I love it. Do you do you even like talking 600 00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: about the hills um Yes and no. I think that 601 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: love the ad by the way. I appreciate the and 602 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: I've got an ant I have an ampersand on it 603 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: because I always think that it's not a butt, it's 604 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: always an ant and I love you, love your ants 605 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: totally thank you for the acknowledgment. I strategically also use 606 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: the ants. Yeah, it's a twofold. It's tricky because people 607 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: are so team Lauren and they're kind of brainwashed to like, 608 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: no matter what she did, there was never a problem, 609 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: and I was the bad guy and that's how it was. 610 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: So it's really ingrained in a lot of people's mind. 611 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: But then interestingly enough, with TikTok and all this new generation, 612 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people watch it with a different perspective 613 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: and they're like, whoa, who is this Lauren girl? And 614 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: you know, it's definitely changed it. And then also it's 615 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: hard with Spencer because I understand why people get worked 616 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: up or think the way that they did because it 617 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: was such a fake relationship. I mean, like some things 618 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: in the beginning were real, like you know, real relationships 619 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: have rockyness. Thank god they didn't show me being like 620 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: a player also because as I totally was, And it 621 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: just gets tricky. But at the same time, I'm so 622 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: thankful over the Hills and it was such a blessing, 623 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: and I met the love of my life. And I'll 624 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: always have a place in my heart for Lauren, and 625 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: I appreciate the friendship we did have and what she 626 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: did do for me and letting me be on our show. 627 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: So it was such a fun moment in time, and 628 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: also it was very challenging. Sure, if there's I mean, 629 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, obviously it's not good to have regrets, right, 630 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,959 Speaker 1: but if there's, is there a moment that you can 631 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: go back to and go, I really wish I would 632 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: have done this differently, or I wouldn't have done or 633 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: you know, not do this. I wish I never brought 634 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: my family on the hills. We should have had a 635 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: no family policy. I didn't see that happening the way 636 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: it did. It just caused a lot of miscommunication between 637 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: like my mom and I and my sister and I 638 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: because the producers would tell you one thing and then 639 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: you'd all kind of go in with the plan. I'm like, Okay, yeah, 640 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: you can say this, and you know, because in real life, 641 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: my mom loves Spencer and there was never a problem. 642 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: But then when we started like acting out that she 643 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: didn't like him, then it was kind of like, wait 644 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: a minute, Mom, why did you say that? And she's like, 645 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: I don't said to say something, and then it caused 646 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: it's actual turmoil when there was no problem, and then 647 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: it just led to a lot of unnecessary, real hurts. 648 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: So I think that if I could do one thing, 649 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 1: it would have just been not including It was tricky though, 650 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: because the producers were like, well, you guys don't have 651 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: a storyline and you're not going to get paid, and 652 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: you're not going to be on the show because no 653 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: one will film with you because Laurence told all the 654 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: casts not to film with you guys anymore. So you've 655 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 1: got to bring your mom on and or find something. 656 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 1: So I was just put in a hard position, especially 657 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: at twenty and not having a good not having an 658 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: Asian manager, lawyer, not anyone. I mean, Spencer was my soundboard. 659 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, what are we complaying? You know, So 660 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: it was hard not having a team or anyone to 661 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: help guide us through that time. Right as you were 662 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: saying that, I question him. To my mind, I'm like, 663 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: do I ask it? Because if someone asked me the question, 664 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: I would have a hard time. I don't know if 665 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: i'd answer it. As well, from being on a show, right, 666 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: So it's like I think back to, like, you know, 667 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: one of my shows that I was on, if there 668 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: was a person from that show that you'd be fine 669 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: with never talking to ever again, Like the one person 670 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: that you were like would would never want to talk 671 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: to again and be like totally fine with it, Like 672 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: if there was one that you could say, I mean, 673 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm fine with never talking to a few people. One 674 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: is there a narrowing people out? I know that's the thing. 675 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: I was like, what I even narrow that because it's 676 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: like I know mine, like you know, and so it's 677 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: like it's interesting because it's like it's not it's not 678 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: even like a mean girl thing. It's just like I 679 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: choose to not let that kind of come into my 680 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: life again and cause or me to feel X Y 681 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: and Z and you were both like twenty doing the shows, 682 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: like it's a different lifetime. Who's yours. We'll see. I've 683 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: got a few I like, I know I do I 684 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: have I do have one from from from One Tree Hill, 685 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: But I should answer it, yeah, answer I know. I 686 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: never if she did, I would, oh, she's going to show. 687 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: I'd be fine never ever talking to um A few 688 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: people on that show. So Lauren, I'm fine with never 689 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: talking to Lauren again. We have gone our separate ways. 690 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: Our lives are completely different. Um, so much has happened. 691 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm fine with never talking to her again. I'm fine 692 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 1: with not talking to her little minions again, like, um, 693 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: you know right, been there, So I'm fine with that. 694 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: I'm fine with you know, I love Kristen Cavalary, so 695 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: thankfully I do talk to her. Um. Yeah, and the reboot, 696 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 1: I'd be fine not talking to like Ni Like most 697 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: the cast, I sortly fine. I'm gonna take us to 698 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: a healthier place. Okay, all right. I tried giving her 699 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: and I tried to rescue this night. Is there anyone 700 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: that you knew super super well during filming that you 701 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: are like most proud of the person they are today? Good? 702 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 1: Good question. Um. I love Jen Bunny. She and I 703 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: have been my best friends since I was nineteen. We 704 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: had a very similar thing like falling out with Lauren, 705 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: and Lauren you know, kind of cut her off and gave, 706 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: you know, treated her in a really unfair way, especially 707 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: being best friends since they were in like preschool. Um, 708 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: and she has become like a doctor and an incredible mom. 709 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 1: I mean, she has all these accolades and I actually 710 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: she has like a book coming out. So she's one 711 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: of my closest friends. And I was so proud of 712 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: her for the life that she did. She went to USC, 713 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: She's incredibly smart, she's so sweet, she's a great wife, 714 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: great mom. So I'm very proud of her. I like that. 715 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: It's interesting to me to have you frame it. I 716 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: don't want to pot start here, but this is something 717 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: I've never quite heard it put this way that it 718 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: was Lauren's show. Oh yeah, well wasn't it. Well never 719 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: I would just see like some well it was obviously 720 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: a main character. I don't know that like the viewers 721 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 1: really saw it. No, we didn't see it. Like to me, 722 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,240 Speaker 1: you were just as much a main character as Lauren 723 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: was as Audrina, Like you know what I mean, Like 724 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: there was some of it was more dominantly obviously spaced 725 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: towards her and times, but like, I remember you just 726 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: as much as I remember her. But I'm going to 727 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: back it up though, for you sex in the City 728 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: who shows it. Wow, that's hard for me because we 729 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: all know how Bradshaw I am. So I'm saying, so 730 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,439 Speaker 1: it's like she's like the Bradshaw of the Hills because 731 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: I look at it and go, wait a minute, No, 732 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: I didn't watch the show religiously. I saw some episodes, 733 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,760 Speaker 1: and I would say that she was the main character. Interesting. Yeah, 734 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: so she was the narrator. It was her spin off 735 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be all about Lauren, and that was part 736 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: of that's true. I guess that was part of the 737 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: problem when we all had to start having more storylines, like, 738 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't supposed to be that way. It wasn't supposed 739 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: to be like half the show about Spencer and I 740 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: half the show about Lauren. And that became a problem 741 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: for her and her team too. They're like, this is 742 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: Lauren's show. And at a point MTV was like, well, 743 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 1: you know, because Lauren's like, I'm going to quit the show, 744 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: um if Heidie and Spencer are on it. And I 745 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 1: think that was season three and so MTV told her 746 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: to walk and they're like, well, a show without Heidie 747 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: and Spencer anymore. And that became a really big division 748 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: in within the show. Well, that's jealousy anytime you're done 749 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: with ego. That's I mean, that's because she wasn't bringing 750 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 1: enough of the what drama or whatever it was. I mean, 751 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 1: that's her own, Like I would say, we all remember 752 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: the mascara dripping moment. I well remember, And that was 753 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: what was so unfortunate, is like I'm such a team 754 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: player and I'm such a best friend rider die that 755 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: I just want like the best for everyone, you know, 756 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: And I don't know. I wasn't in her position, and 757 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't my show and I wasn't the narrator. But 758 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: I'm just not really like that. So when she was 759 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: like you need to stop dating Spencer and like all 760 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: these hard things that started happening, I was like, wait 761 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: a minute. You had a boyfriend that I didn't like 762 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: that I had to live with for a year, and 763 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: I would never have said to you like stop dating him, 764 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 1: or we're not going to be friends or I don't 765 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 1: want to hear about him. I'm like, that's the time 766 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: you need me the most as a friend. That's when 767 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: I need to step up. That's when you need your girl, 768 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: That's when you need a shoulder to cry on at 769 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: any time. Like I'm here for you whenever. However much 770 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: time you want to spend with him, that's great, And 771 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: I would stay at the apartment like half the time 772 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: and really strategically make sure to have time with her 773 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: because she did just go through a huge breakup a 774 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: few months before, and you know, she was going through 775 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: a hard time or you know, had just had gone 776 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 1: through a hard time. So I spent like half my 777 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: first Valentin's Dave with Spencer with Lauren, and she was 778 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: still mad at me, and I was like, this is 779 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,839 Speaker 1: getting out of control, Like I'm sorry, There's not much 780 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: more I can do at this point, and she just 781 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 1: it was really unfortunate, and I was like, I didn't 782 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: even think you were like this, and you know, that's 783 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 1: that was the real division in our friendship, and so 784 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: on cameras she started like kind of doing things and 785 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 1: saying things and I had no idea. She was saying 786 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,399 Speaker 1: to MTV like I don't want hide on the show 787 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: anymore and stuff like that. So it was unfortunate, the 788 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: whole fallout of our friendship. And I know we were 789 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: young and things like that, but it just I would 790 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: never have been a friend like that to her. Sure, 791 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: that's tough. That's I'm curious. Like with forgiveness too. We 792 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,399 Speaker 1: were talking about this one of our episodes, like where 793 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: what's your stance on it, Like do you think is 794 00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,240 Speaker 1: it forgetting? Like do you forgive or like what? Yeah? Yeah, 795 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 1: And I think forgiveness is more for yourself, you know, 796 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 1: Like I have love for Laura, and I really do. 797 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate all the time that we had. And you know, 798 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,399 Speaker 1: there's other people in my life too that I've hurt 799 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: me as much or more than her. And it's all 800 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: about moving forward in life because forgiveness only makes you 801 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: feel bad. I'm sure that person doesn't even care anymore, 802 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: you know. So I think forgiveness is super important for yourself. 803 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: And you know, obviously I mean not obviously, but I 804 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: also I am a Christian. I'm pretty spiritual, and I 805 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: think that it's just a good thing to do, and 806 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,439 Speaker 1: I want to teach my kids to be that way 807 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: and I want to model that myself. And sometimes forgiveness 808 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: is constant. It's not like a one time, Oh I 809 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: forgive you and now everything's fine. Like sometimes you get 810 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: those feelings again and you get angry and you have 811 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 1: to pray about it or talk about it or what 812 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: meditate however people do, and it's like, Okay, actually I 813 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,399 Speaker 1: wish that person the best. I'm going to let that go. 814 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: Maybe they're hurt, there's other things going on. So I 815 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: think forgiveness is one of the most important parts of life, 816 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: and it helps you to move forward in other relationships 817 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 1: and it helps just it only helps what also factories, 818 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, boundaries are also really good. So with forgiveness 819 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: does come boundaries, right, We're a big fan of boundaries 820 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 1: in the share what do you do when you get stuck? 821 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: Like how does Heidi? How does Heidie get out of 822 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,320 Speaker 1: a rut? When you know you're down about something or 823 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 1: motherhood or things didn't even get that you know, show 824 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: you on it, or like what do you what do 825 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: you do to go okay? Like I'm gonna be okay. 826 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm very big into prayer, so even if it's like 827 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: two minutes, so I'll just go pray about it. I 828 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: think crying is great, I think so baptisting to cry 829 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: and let it out, but just to take those that time, 830 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: even with the kids, Like if I'm getting frustrated or 831 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: i feel like, you know, if Gunner's having a tantrum 832 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: and Rikers crying and Spencer saying something, I'm just like 833 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 1: need to take a deep breath, let this out of 834 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 1: my body, Like when you start feeling it, it's just 835 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: time to kind of a little so care. So I 836 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,760 Speaker 1: think quick self care is an important thing because sometimes 837 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 1: you don't have ten minutes to yourself. You know, it's like, okay, 838 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: you just need thirty seconds to breathe. What is your 839 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: top self care at this point? Like I know your postpartum, 840 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 1: You're you've got five year old Gunner, You've got Spencer, 841 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: who is a character in himself, Like, you've got a lot, 842 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: You're living in a frat house essentially, So tell me, 843 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: tell me if you get like five to ten minutes, 844 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: we're praying, like is it running? Is it? Like? What 845 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 1: is what is it for you? Right now? That just 846 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: feels like okay. Back to Heidi. My favorite thing to 847 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: do is be a nature So for me, it's like 848 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: taking the dogs on a walk is the best because 849 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: we live right by a trail and I can just 850 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: like be up in the mountains quickly, So that is 851 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 1: really important for me. I try to do that every day. Also, 852 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 1: I can take Gunner up there and then he's like 853 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,280 Speaker 1: playing with sticks and trees, and then I can also 854 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: just like look at the clouds and relax and right 855 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: you're sleeping on me, so that's important for me. It's 856 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 1: just being outside even for a little bit, and then 857 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 1: I only get a short amount of prayer time, so 858 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 1: I just try to do that even for like two 859 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,280 Speaker 1: minutes a day. But like you're saying right now, self cares, 860 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 1: it's a little tricky. I'm trying to work out again, too, 861 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: So three days a week, I'm trying to work out 862 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 1: with a trainer and have that time, and I have 863 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 1: a babysitter come because I don't want to rely on 864 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: Spencer being able to deal with the baby crying because 865 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: he like freaks out. So I'm like, all right, I 866 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: don't need to deal with you and a baby crying 867 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: and trying to work out, So self care sometimes it's 868 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: just having someone come hold the baby. That preventative. It's 869 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 1: preventative resentment disorder, is what I'm trying to. Like, I 870 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: hire the help so I don't have to depend on you, 871 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,399 Speaker 1: so I can keep liking you and I can still 872 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: work out. Okay, right, I'm with you. I can't remember 873 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 1: if I said this on the show or I know 874 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 1: I said it in therapy, but I've been struggling lately 875 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 1: with prayer because I've been kind of, you know, frustrated 876 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: with certain things like work wise, and so someone I 877 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: think it was my therapist, she was like, you know, 878 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 1: just asked like she's like, be really direct with your 879 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 1: prayer with God. And so I I went up to 880 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 1: my new house that's being built and I was standing 881 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 1: there and you know, I started to pray. But then 882 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: when I when I was praying, I was like, hey, God, 883 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: like you know God, like I really like I would 884 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 1: love this. But then I start I switched and I 885 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,439 Speaker 1: told my therapist. I was like, I stopped praying because 886 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: but then I was like because I said, but I'm 887 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 1: so grateful for my kids, and it's like I'm so 888 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,240 Speaker 1: grateful for this, And so then I felt bad asking 889 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,359 Speaker 1: for something because I've already been blessed with so much. 890 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 1: So I'm like, how ungrateful am I? Then I'm asking 891 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 1: for something even more when you've blessed me with this. 892 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 1: So then I just spent like fifteen minutes like fighting 893 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 1: myself and then be like all right, well whatever, like 894 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 1: just do you just do you when you want to 895 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: do you? And then like I was like it's gonna 896 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:49,799 Speaker 1: be on your time anyways, Okay, cool, Bye, like, but 897 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: thanks for everything, like did you even talk to me? 898 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 1: Because it feels like you had a one side of conversation. 899 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: But I like was really battling with like asking for 900 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: like you know, asking God for it, but then also 901 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,720 Speaker 1: like being like, but thank you so much for everything 902 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 1: you've given me. So then I felt bad asking for more, 903 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 1: like you how greedy of you? But then my therapist goes, well, 904 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: why do you feel like you don't deserve more? And 905 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: then I started like crying. That was like my you know, 906 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,240 Speaker 1: my whole belief, like well I don't I don't deserve 907 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 1: the happy ending. I don't get the happy ending, like 908 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 1: that just doesn't happen, like something will fall through, something 909 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: will like not work like. And then she's like, but 910 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,479 Speaker 1: what if you can you can be grateful and also 911 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 1: ask for more too, and so I yeah, and and 912 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: but I would really like have found myself struggling with that, 913 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: like with prayer. You know, sometimes I have been there myself, 914 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 1: and also God has like convicted my heart sometimes to 915 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: not ask for things, like I've gone to prayer and 916 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I need to ask for this. 917 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 1: And then sometimes like when I have felt it as 918 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 1: you're saying it's felt not right, Like, wait a minute, 919 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 1: maybe I just need to pause and be in a 920 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 1: season or just have a few days of gratitude and 921 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,360 Speaker 1: then come back to it. So I've also done that. 922 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, Actually, God just convicted me in January. 923 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: He was like, just do a month of gratitude prayers. 924 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 1: Because I always ask, I'm a big asker. I'm like, 925 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: all right, Lord, oh maybe we're not lottery. Does I 926 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 1: want it? And I'll do good things? You know? You know, 927 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,399 Speaker 1: so I'm like my mom nade the new house, come 928 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:24,280 Speaker 1: on talking. So I can't handle you. But sometimes also 929 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: God has convicted me, like why don't you just take 930 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: a few days or even like this moment and just 931 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 1: relax and just grateful Because what God can work on 932 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 1: in your heart with just gratitude sometimes leads you to 933 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: a different ask. Right, So maybe whatever you're asking needs 934 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: to be tweaked a little bit and by going back 935 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: to gratitude and just praising and like I'll be like, 936 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,320 Speaker 1: thank you for my toes, thank you for the air 937 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 1: and the oxygen. Thank you we're not having a new 938 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 1: heal or war right now, you know, thank you. My 939 00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,359 Speaker 1: kids have food, so sometimes it is those bags six 940 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 1: that God just works on your heart in mysterious ways, Right, 941 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,880 Speaker 1: That's what's so cool about God, Like we don't know 942 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,839 Speaker 1: why he does things or what we're supposed to pray for. 943 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: But sometimes it's just also an inner peace, Like maybe 944 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 1: you're not having peace while you're asking for something and 945 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: He just needs like to It's like an adjustment with 946 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 1: a chiropractor. Maybe just needs to crack this little thing 947 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 1: and then have you come an hour later. Maybe it's 948 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 1: a few days later. I don't know, but I think 949 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: that's interesting. Like when you're starting to feel conflicted with prayer, 950 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 1: I think that's because that's God. Sometimes it's just like 951 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 1: be still, like I am God, I got this, I 952 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: know what you want. I have something better coming for you. 953 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 1: So maybe I don't know, but it is always interesting 954 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,800 Speaker 1: to me. I love that, and thank you for speaking 955 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 1: on it too. I love we Actually the guest before 956 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,439 Speaker 1: you on another episode we just talked about her faith, 957 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: and it's just I love that people are talking about it. 958 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 1: So I like conversational prayer too. That's something like I 959 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 1: think we miss. I think we've think it has to 960 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 1: be so officially started, so officially ending and so like 961 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 1: I'll just be in my kitchen and I'm just like 962 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,720 Speaker 1: I feel sad, and I don't even necessarily ask for anything. 963 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 1: I'm just like I want to tell you because I 964 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 1: know you know, but also just because I want you 965 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,879 Speaker 1: to like do whatever, like so it's just like kind 966 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,720 Speaker 1: of conversational. I'm not it's like all day. I actually 967 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 1: learned that when I was going through my divorce because 968 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: I felt like lonely and I was like I kind 969 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,319 Speaker 1: of want to date God, which sounds weird, but then 970 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 1: I would just be like, all right, what do I 971 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 1: want to have for like, you know, just like kind 972 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 1: of conversational and it feels a little less official, and 973 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 1: then you don't feel like you have to request anything 974 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: or maybe pinpoint of feeling and you can just say 975 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 1: like this is it, like the beautiful surrender over and 976 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,280 Speaker 1: over again. I'm totally with you on that, Like Jesus 977 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 1: is my best friend. That's how I feel, you know. 978 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 1: And it says like like you're saying, I always am 979 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 1: like the love of my life, You're the lover of 980 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,800 Speaker 1: my soul because nobody knows me deeper and more real 981 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 1: and less judgmental, Like that's the thing I don't with 982 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 1: Christianity or any spirituality. People are like so critical of it. 983 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,840 Speaker 1: It's like you're missing the whole point. It's not to 984 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 1: be judgmental and critical like you're missing it, Like what 985 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: on one, maybe go work on yourself there, but like 986 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,319 Speaker 1: maybe start a genesis. I don't know. Jecking got me 987 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 1: okay on a major projections. I got something going on 988 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 1: with God. Okay, we got our own deal here. But 989 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 1: I'm with that all day. I'm just like, all right, God, 990 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,800 Speaker 1: help me find a parking spot, like I have this 991 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 1: praper park. I'm like, however, I'm going through it like 992 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen Diesel official. It's more like a relationship. 993 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 1: It's just like your friend hanging out with you. You know. 994 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 1: I love it. Well, Heidi, thank you so much for 995 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 1: coming on. I adore you. So. I'm glad we've met 996 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 1: now in this stage of our lives and not me 997 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 1: running into mirrors, mirror, not baby bird Janna hitting the mirror. 998 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: I cannot wait to bring this up to Brodie too. 999 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go yeah, buddy, yeah, and we're all in 1000 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: better places for what was so nice. Thank you guys 1001 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 1: for having me on and anytime you want mom talk anything, 1002 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm fully here so I love it precious, all right, 1003 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,400 Speaker 1: Thanks girl, appreciate you. Bye okay by girl hie girl