WEBVTT - Heightened Emotions w/ Brit Morgan 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:04.279 Of the law and order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.080 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:07.920 vicious felonies. 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:11.520 These episodes are based on. These are our stories. Done done. 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:31.840 Yay, that's messed up. An SVU podcast is back with 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:32.800 another episode. 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:34.440 I am Lisa Traeger. 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:38.000 And I am Kara Klank And on this podcast we 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:40.159 talk about an episode of SVU. We talk about the 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:42.280 true crime it was based on or the real stories 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.159 based on, and then we talked to a guests and 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:49.479 we have a good one today. But first, huge news 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:51.360 to our little podcast family. 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:53.840 We have a granddaughter. I mean, no, I don't know 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:54.480 what we'll call her. 0:00:54.840 --> 0:01:00.440 Our intrepid producer Casey has welcomed a little daughter and we're. 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:01.120 So excited for him. 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:04.959 Her name is Patients and it's like a perfect name 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:08.039 because he has so much patience with us and uh, 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.640 I love it and we're really excited for him. So 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:12.160 he's going to be on a little bit of a 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.440 paternity leave for a few weeks and then he'll be back. 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:14.720 Yeah. 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:18.160 No flagwaven no flag. Yeah, no flags for a couple 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:20.600 of weeks. But we'll try to keep it we'll still 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:21.960 try to keep it tied up top. 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:25.360 It's so exciting. I have to go buy baby things. 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:29.759 I know, I know, is there a kid podcast set? Well, 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:30.520 you are headed. 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.000 You are headed to a airport tomorrow, and I know 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:34.720 you always find things at airports. 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:36.480 You're like, what, baby do we know we need to 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:38.520 get them this at airport shops. 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:42.080 So I'm excited to see what you know, Saint Louis 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:44.480 Merch patients will be wearing in a few weeks. 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:47.680 I know it's way hold. I'm going to look. I'm 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.080 gonna look this up. I bet it exists. Do you 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:52.760 think a podcast toy for kids exists? 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:56.960 Ooh, like baby's first podcasting equipment that's really funny, like 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:58.880 a little mic and a little zoom recorder. 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:05.120 Let's see, I wrote kid podcast toy and it's not happening. 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:12.280 I'm getting Ghostbuster plasma toys. Well, we'll look into it later. 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:17.760 I did buy one friend's kid a jellycat stuffed microphone 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:19.520 with like a little face on it, and it was 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:21.920 really fucking cute every time she held it. 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:23.800 That is super cute. 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.720 And then this month, last minute, who knows, but I 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.720 am going to be in Phoenix for Valentine's Day hosting 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:34.000 a male strip show, and then the next day I'm 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:37.840 doing like an after Valentine's Day show, So the fourteenth 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:41.600 naked men and me, the fifteenth me and something. I 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:44.000 don't know, it'll be something different, but I'm not sure 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:46.360 what it is yet. Yeah, hopefully by the time I 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:49.360 land in Phoenix, I'll know. We'll see what happens. 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.200 For all the details on that, you guys can go 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.320 to Thats messed Up live dot com and that has 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.760 a link to what Liza's website and that we'll have 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.240 all the info on there because it really goes your 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:00.679 link tream. 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:04.240 And I'll be in Boston February twenty third, and I'm 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:05.440 excited at Crystal Ballroom. 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:09.320 It's where Karen and I were a few times ago. Yeah, 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:11.720 it's where we were like about one year ago. We 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:15.200 did two great shows at that venue. I'm excited for you. 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.200 That's gonna be so fun. Well, you were in Boston 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.320 during the holidays. Did we even talk about it? 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:20.839 Yeah? 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:22.800 I think we did right because I said I stayed 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:24.800 at my friends and it was so great. Yeah, Boston 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.400 is awesome, and we we love a lot of you 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:28.240 gals that are there. 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:31.960 So I had this amazing idea because lobster rolls never 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:34.960 satisfy me in the way that I want them to, Like, 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:37.200 it's just too much. It's just never enough meat. So 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:40.800 then I had an idea, what if the lobsterol was 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:44.160 like just the tail in a hot dog bun, so 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:47.200 it would be like a lobster tail hot dog. So 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:50.160 then it would actually be meaty and some buttery bread. 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.480 So I messaged, you know, a chef with a seafood restaurant, 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:57.720 and he said that would be tough to eat and 0:03:57.760 --> 0:03:59.000 seventy five dollars. 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:06.000 So honestly a perfect Lisa invention if you ask me. Now, 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.120 you got to get a brand that says bad with money, 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:09.880 brand that on the side of the bun, and that's 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.440 like a perfect you call it the Lisa Dog. 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:16.680 I just there's just something about a lobsterol that's never 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.400 fully satisfying for me, even though I love lobster and 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:21.080 I love bread and I love butter, like I love 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.960 all the ingredients, and it's never like I've just never 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:26.239 beenen to a lobsterol and goes, this is the best 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.200 one I've ever had, Like I could tell you my 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.520 top few burgers, like my favorite nachos. 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:31.880 I could tell you where. 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.159 I would love to get a turkey club, you know, 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:36.120 like all these things, I can't tell you where. 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:37.800 Like my favorite lobsterol is. 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.159 There is a place called Son of a Gun that's 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:43.560 like a delicious seafood restaurant on like Third Street, kind 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:47.240 of near below who or whatever, And they have a lobsterole. 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.040 It is this big, it's three inches long. But it 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:53.000 is good. But maybe there's something about it being small. 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.520 I don't have big expectations because it's not gonna like 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:56.599 fill me up or anything. 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:00.080 Honey, They're always small in this economy. 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:03.000 That's why I'm trying to invent the bigger, the bigger 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:04.840 meteor lof sterrel. 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:08.960 They're always tiny. They're always thirty four dollars. I never 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:11.400 you know where it's great. Mermaid In for their Happy 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:15.160 Hour menu has a mini lobsterole, So that feels good 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:16.360 because you're paying a mini. 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:20.360 Price, yes, mini for mini baby, so then that's okay. 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:23.960 But we had no I mean, this isn't a food podcast, 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.280 but we had an incredible barrata. I would say last week, 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:31.360 Oh yeah, the blood orange and honey comb. Delicious, lash 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:36.760 really liked it. Yeah, Barada's still holding out there. 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:36.960 Man. 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.240 Like there was a time where like Buffalo Mozzarella was 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.800 on every menu, and then Buffalo Montrello got kicked the 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:44.200 fuck out. It became Barata, and I thought, oh, Barrata's 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:46.279 not got that much longer before it becomes something else. 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:48.720 But Barata's got a stranglehold on I would say the 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:50.480 appetizer section of a lot of menus. 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:53.040 I'm gonna be honest. I had never had Barata until 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:54.960 like five years ago. I didn't even know it was 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:55.280 a thing. 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:59.000 Yeah, because I think that's like exactly you're describing. Well, yeah, 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.359 that's like exactly what. But do you remember before that, 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.040 it'd be like you'd get like a big ball of 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:07.200 like imported like Buffalo mozzarella, like delicious, like from Italy 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:09.880 and be like, ooh, this is the big sporage appetizer. 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.480 And then Barata moved in and now that's it. It's 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.040 a little easier to spread on a piece of bread. 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:18.599 I would always get a capreisee. Yeah, mozzarella is in 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.560 the game. I don't know if that's yeah, the same 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:21.000 thing or not. 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:24.839 Well, now there's Barata capraises everywhere, you know, Yeah, Barrota 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.800 is in Brussels, sprouts is held out. I do love 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:28.359 food trends. 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:30.440 I can't I can't tell you what's popular right now 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:32.080 though I don't know what food trend is in. 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:35.120 I can't think of anything specific. 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:38.200 I said passion fruit is in, but I don't see 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:39.880 it as much as I thought I would. 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.680 I fucking love passion fruit. I love it so much. 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:44.719 I don't know how to pronounce this brand, but it's 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:48.840 like Olinis. Olinos. Their passion fruit Greek yogurt is the 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:52.839 best thing ever. Ooh, it's so good. If you see that, 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:54.919 I mean, it's not cheap. It's like four dollars a 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:58.799 little container. Gotta get some, but it is so smooth, 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:04.800 so creamy, and the passion fruit is perfectly tart, and 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.440 then the little seeds give like a little extra crunch. 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:08.120 I really love it. 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.720 We need Top Chef back, and I think we've proven 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:11.880 that we could be guest hosts. 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:16.560 I need judges, judges, judges, pat but get the pack 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:18.280 up your knives and leave. We're the guest hosts. 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:21.000 Now. Although she's gone all right, know, yeah she. 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.320 Went to and I get it to focus on her 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:27.400 own show. You know, Tastes of the Nation is very successful. 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.640 Who's who's taking over for her? Do we know? We do? 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:34.120 Her name is Kristin. She is a winner of Top Chef. 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:38.200 Kristin Kish. What's amazing about her win? So Top Chef 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.720 started doing this thing where they would do Last Chance 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:45.760 Kitchen and if you got voted off, the people voted 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.760 off would have their own competition. So the two of 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:51.760 them and the last man's standing of the last Man's 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:54.800 Kitchen throughout the season gets to go back into the 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:57.600 game as the final four or five or something like that. 0:07:57.640 --> 0:07:59.000 Final Okay, and she. 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:02.320 Did that, so she'd be every single eliminated person all 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:05.000 season and then she she. 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:06.960 Got to go back. And then when she went back, 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.160 did she win or she she didn't win? She won, 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:09.960 That's what I mean. 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:15.040 Wow, Her win is extra special because she's straight up 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.320 head to head be every single person. But she didn't 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.600 have to do all these challenges. She didn't do restaurant wars. 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:24.200 But beating everyone head to head is pretty impressive. And 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.800 everyone's desperation when they come right out, it's like, fuck, 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.360 I gotta win, and she still want so Yeah, and 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:34.680 I really love Melissa King Honestly, the two Asian lesbians 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:38.720 are the best top chef alone, right, But Kristin is 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.400 like a great choice, and everyone was happy and Padma 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.040 was happy, you know, like everyone was really no one 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:47.280 was people are gonna miss Padma, like, oh, you know, 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.040 we don't want her to leave, But yeah, I think 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:53.079 everyone's really happy. No one's mad about the situation at all. 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:55.600 Comment in the comments if you're pissed. 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.240 Wait, this is such a random turn. But I had 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:02.840 to say before I forget. Last week we did the 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:07.880 episode Blood where the mom Jenny who was panhandling, and 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:11.960 I did not mention that the actress is the mother 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.800 from a Christmas Story, and I cannot believe I didn't 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:16.679 mention that, and a couple people have pointed out to 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:19.160 me and I have to do a correction in SAM, 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:20.520 so I really apologize. 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:21.679 I talked about Emily. 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:23.920 Valentine from nine o two to zero at nauseum, and 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:28.760 I completely missed Melinda Dillon, who literally is I think 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:32.120 like an OSCAR nominated actress who was the mom in 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.080 a Christmas Story which is a classic, and she did 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:36.720 pass away last year, so we need to respect her memory. 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.320 But that's just a little corrections corner for me right here. 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:43.520 Yeah, I still haven't seen that movie. I don't think, 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.440 oh a Christmas story or maybe I was like blacked 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:49.679 out on Christmas, but no I did. It was in 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:53.000 the background of One Christmath. But like I maybe saw 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.040 last year. Like it's weird. 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.120 Like I watched that movie and was like, I feel 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.280 weird watching it. Like it's just like the dad's really 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:03.200 mean to the kids, and like there's this whole fantasy 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.040 about buying a gun. You know, it's like, I mean, 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.520 it's a bb gun, but you know, it's like then 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.839 there's these really mean bullies. There's this whole Peter and 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:11.959 the Wolf sequence where they play the music from Peter 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.640 and the Wolf and these bullies are like stalking the kids. 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:16.959 It's a weird movie, but it is like in all 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.120 of our brains from childhood, I feel. 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.880 But yeah, it's like a jew who didn't know about it. 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.000 It's like you know about the lamp, Yeah, you know 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.720 about the bunny outfit, and you know about the tongue 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:27.160 on the poll. 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:28.079 Yeah. 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.199 My friend Rachel has a small replica of the lamp 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:31.880 in her guest room, so I see it every time 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:32.480 I stay there. 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.319 Dads really love that. Dads love that leg lamp. 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:38.880 If you give a dad that leg lamp for the holidays, 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:40.240 he's gonna lose it. 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:42.200 You can get a little ornament of the leg lamp 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.000 too if you can't. If you can't commit to having 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.600 a full, actual working leg lamp, you can have it 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:47.600 still represented. 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:50.360 Is this gonna be our Halloween debacle? Where we talked 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:52.760 about Halloween for three weeks after Halloween? 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.240 It's like the end of January and we're like any 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:58.880 other Christmas movies you're loving right now, Lisa way. 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:00.600 In as not. 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.880 I don't even know what I did start watching American Nightmare. 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:08.360 Oh and if you're someone ignorant to not ignorant, like 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.800 naive to the justice system and how victims of sexual 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.280 assault are treated, this wasn't surprising. 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:16.319 I can't and the rage I have. 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:20.000 Even with all the research we do, I was shaking. 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:21.240 I was so mad watching this. 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.199 So the fact that there are people who aren't as 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:27.640 like in the know and are seeing this. I can't 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.800 imagine how shocked and angry people are, like if you 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:32.600 are just learning it for the first time. 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:36.920 Because awful. Yeah, and this this just came out on Netflix. 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.320 It did I didn't even watch the third episode because 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:40.600 I was in such a rage. I'm like, I really 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:45.640 need to put something calming on before bed. But it's 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:50.440 about a kidnapping, like a really wild like the details 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:54.040 of the case are very strange, so I understand the confusion, 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.720 like being like, Wow, this is weird. But a woman 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.480 was kidnapped, a guy was tied up, and then the 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.320 cops were just convinced it was gone girl and they 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.440 wouldn't believe it. They wouldn't investigate, they wouldn't look into evidence. 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.600 And then the kidnapper got pissed because he wanted attention 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:12.120 for it. He started sending evidence and the cops ignored it. 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:16.560 They didn't, they refused, They refused to believe she wasn't lying, 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:18.640 and then they decided to charge them for lying. Like 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.440 they wouldn't look for her even when she came back 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:24.640 she was a suspect. Everyone was blaming her. Why didn't 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:25.080 you scream? 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:25.240 What? 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:25.480 No? 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.440 The cops refuse to believe it, and then like this 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:31.560 journalist is a big part of the documentary. He went 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.080 up to one of the cops and was like, what's 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:36.280 up with you? And he goes, come on, this isn't real. 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.080 Have you seen Gone Girl? And that's it. They refused 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.679 to look into it. That is so fucked. 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:43.800 I literally just looked it up because I was like, 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:45.679 when did this happen? It happened in twenty fifteen, and 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:47.560 I was like, oh, I wonder if cases like Sherry 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:51.240 Peppini influenced them, like the cops, because remember she actually 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.760 did plan a hoax kidnapping of herself, but that was 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:55.880 twenty sixteen. It was the year after this woman got 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:57.480 kidnapped in the American Nightmare. 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:01.600 No, cops don't need a reason to distrust women. But yeah, 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:03.840 Gone Girl fucked with the psyche. 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:04.080 You know. 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:09.920 The victim was blonde, and what she went through was horrible. 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:10.839 I'm gonna watch it. 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:14.800 I can't imagine going through that trauma and then finally 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.240 being able to get out and thinking like fuck yeah, 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:20.800 and then the cops are like, you're lying, You're dumb, bitch, 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:23.600 we don't trust you. And to her guy, they were 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:25.360 in the same bed. He was like tied up as 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:27.840 she was taken, and. 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:29.920 They just they didn't care. 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.640 The cop they did not care, and the FBI, the 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:35.160 FBI was involved, and FBI didn't believe them either, but 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.920 also refused to look at any of that, like, yeah, 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:39.800 you're gonna watch everyone should watch it. I'm gonna stop 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.360 talking about it. So there's actually something to watch, but 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:45.000 American Nightmare. If you listen to our podcast, I think 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:48.680 you will not enjoy, but be interested in watching American 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:49.600 Nightmare on Netflix. 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:55.000 Yeah, damn, damn, Daniel, that is fucked. I want to watch. 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.440 It just popped up in my you know, front page 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.319 of my Netflix and you had told me about it too, 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:00.839 so it's on the list. 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.280 The world is just too big, you know. I'm always like, 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:05.600 why am I trying to get stoned all day every day? 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:09.720 And then it's like so clear. It's so clear when 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:14.480 you start discussing the world and the crush, like the 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.080 I don't even know what it is, Like, it's just 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:21.640 too much. Yeah, the injustice of the world is too much. 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.040 But you know what could help you feel better buying 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:28.640 some of our merch guys. It's a perfect segue. I 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.360 wanted to let you guys know though, because a lot 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.280 of you have been messaging us. 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Yeah, 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:01.720 I'm happy. 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.800 I'm holding it in my hand because at the moment, 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:06.880 I'm wearing my cast s View sweatshirt. 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:11.120 So that's that's actually what's happening. Oh my god, we're 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:13.720 so ill. We just did an interview too. Like luckily 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.760 this person couldn't have seen our outfits, so that's messed up. 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.280 Live dot Com has a shop link and that takes 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.320 you to all this stuff. This stuff will ship in 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.880 like mid February, so you can order now, but it'll 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:26.840 it'll ship in a couple of weeks after that, so 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:28.360 go get it, guys. 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:32.400 No, I was just gonna interrupt because like the way 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.560 we would get dressed for these interviews when this podcast 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:36.240 first started. 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.400 Oh my god, blown out maker. 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:43.600 We did full glam. It was like we put on outfit, 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:48.160 full eyeliner. Truly, I don't. I did brush my teeth, 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:51.000 but sometimes I don't like I roll out and roll 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:53.480 onto these and I really can't believe how comfortable we've 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:53.920 got it. 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:57.360 Because it used to be like, ooh, this is a 0:15:57.400 --> 0:15:59.160 big star, this is a hottie. 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.320 Sometimes I still feel like there's a certain person I 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:02.880 need to put an eye liner on for. But I 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:04.840 can't remember who the last person was that i'd put 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:05.680 eyeliner on for. 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:06.680 I can't either. 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.120 Honestly, it was Kelly Giddish and that was two years ago. 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:16.320 Oh my god, Kelly Giddish. I think I put a 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.760 comb through my hair. I think I was really excited 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:19.920 to see and she. 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.920 Was in running clothes, I think lying on her bed. No, 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.200 she was in the garage. Didn't she finish a workout? 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:26.040 Yeah? 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:27.880 Or she was she was in workout clothes, yeah, yeah, 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:28.960 ye yeah yeah. 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.000 Oh you know what I you know what psycho thing 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.320 I did with our friend. Yes, well, okay, we do 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:35.200 need to start this episode. I do have two things 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:36.720 to say. You know, I was playing Mario Kart with 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:40.040 our friend's children and I don't think I realized how 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:45.080 often I say fucking and fuck because I was called out. 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.480 You really don't know until you are around children. And 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:51.720 trust me, my son won't stop saying fucking bitch. And 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.200 I don't know where he heard it, but uh, we 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:56.120 were really trying to curb that. 0:16:56.720 --> 0:17:00.680 Our friend she was like, you said the fe I go, 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:02.840 I know. I was just really excited. And then I 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:04.679 did it again. She goes, you did it again. I go, 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:06.960 I didn't even realize this time, because if you do 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.359 it again, you can't play. You'll be put on pause 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:14.960 for seventy minutes. I went, okay, okay, you got punished. 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:19.560 Oh my god, that's so funny. That's so funny. Also, 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:21.119 I just what this was funny to me? 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:24.000 Maybe so. I was with our friend Jared Goldstein. 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.879 He wanted to watch people on Keto talking about what 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.359 they eat, like for some reason, he likes that. 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:34.520 But it was so funny. We were laughing so hard. 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.720 It's like someone on a carnivore diet, so they're only 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.200 eating meat. So it's them at a restaurant going I'm 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.720 gonna teach you how to order on the carnivore diet. 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:46.439 But everywhere she goes, it's just playing hamburger patties, like 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:49.600 there's no nuance. 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.040 Just and she'll sell them the button. 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.639 She goes, don't bring in the cheeseburger, do the ad 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.800 patty button because it's half the costs and put them 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:57.160 on the plane. 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:58.080 And it's like everywhere. 0:17:58.080 --> 0:17:59.640 And then at I Hop she goes, I'm gonna teach 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.480 you how to as a carnivor. At I Hop she goes, 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:07.000 I'll have a side of bacon, two eggs, and hamburger patties. 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:08.919 And it's like you taught us how to order bacon 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.880 and eggs at I Hop, Like what is the internet? 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:17.639 Oh my god? Also have a banana. Yeah, your cholesterol 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:20.080 is gonna go through the roof, sweetheart. And she brings 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:20.800 extra salt. 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.760 So then she ordered like twenty four chicken wings sauceless, 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.160 and then has a bottle of salt that she pours 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:30.240 on every single wing and eats it crazy. It was wild, 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:32.600 but it was just like the uniqueness and that's what 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:34.880 I feel the inn it. It was just amazing watching 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:36.760 her go and this is how I order it in 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:42.159 and out and it's like fourteen patties bunless and then 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:44.600 One of her advice is, sometimes, I know people get 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:47.800 really tired on this diet, So a way to incorporate 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.280 other things is put two meats on your plate, so 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:50.640 then you. 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:51.720 Can have the different textures. 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:54.600 People get really tired from filling their body with meat 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:55.439 and nothing else. 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:56.840 At another meat. 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:00.440 I want also to be like, I haven't gone to 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:01.480 the bathroom in two weeks. 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:02.440 Let's go to ihop. 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:06.040 Like listen, I've been a part of many non sustainable 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:10.800 diets my whole life. I just I never dipped into 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:13.880 one hundred percent meat, one hundred percent meat. 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:17.960 Needy baby. Yeah, that's that's why. 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:18.200 Yeah. 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:20.520 The internet has some great stuff and some you know, 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:22.800 as we all know, it runs the gamma. 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:25.000 It's just like, then there's this one woman and I 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:27.359 follow her sometimes I was like, oh, you're gonna like 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:30.359 her because she buys dairy from the Amish community and 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:34.280 drinks non pasteurized milk and she's against pasteurization. And all 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:35.760 these doctors on YouTube have to be. 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:39.280 Like, please don't do this, don't do this. 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:41.560 And people will be like, you don't eat an f 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:45.520 and she'll be like, I had a seven hundred calorie 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.280 coffee because I pour cream in it. And I'm like, 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:50.560 I don't know if that much. I don't know what's happening. 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:53.440 I don't know what's happening. We had a great night 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:57.880 eating sushi and watching TikTok shorts and then I was like, oh, 0:19:57.880 --> 0:19:59.639 I'll show you my favorite woman that sits in a 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:01.800 car and eats lunch. And we were watching it, and 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:05.439 he's like, this is what's sick. They're all alone, Like 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:08.760 we're looking at our phones to find fun tips or 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:11.560 ways to live or how to you know, help your 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:14.159 relationship or be a better mom or whatever. You're on 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:16.960 the internet looking at TikTok for Maybe it's just enjoyment, 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:19.119 but then when you think about it, it's like these people 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:24.080 are alone. Yeah, they're alone, setting up a camera with 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:27.600 all these little trinkets, eating lunch in their car, talking 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:31.520 to nobody. And I'm glad she's making money because and 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:34.400 she gives me comfort, But like, what is happening? 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:37.000 I don't know? That's wild. 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:41.800 No, you need to answer my question, what is happening? 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:46.080 I don't know why are we watching people? Like what 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:48.760 is it? I'm part of it, but I don't like it, 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:51.280 and and it makes me feel strange. 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:53.920 What is satisfying to you about watching somebody eat lunch 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:54.720 in their car alone. 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:57.919 I like her shaking the salad. I don't know. I 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:00.960 don't know because it also says. 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:02.560 To me, how you sound like That's why people watch 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:06.520 the Kardashians because. 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:09.040 And it's also I feel claustrophobic watching her because she 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:12.639 brings like a mini table, she'll bring blender things, she'll 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:16.400 bring little ingredients and mixed stuff and canisters and it's 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:19.359 just so much. I don't know what it is, but 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:22.359 I want to get off the ride. And I was 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:25.200 off the ride for a little bit. Yeah, it was impressive. 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:28.160 It's just like you're talking to a woman. It's like, hey, 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:30.800 if you're thinking about and then I'm like, who even 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:31.399 are you? 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:33.600 Who are you? 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:35.159 Why am I listening to you? 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:38.760 Well, because an algorithm told you that you were gonna 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:42.200 like it, And I feel like the algorithm is creepily 0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:44.040 on the money most. 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:44.240 Of the time. 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:46.240 No, because I don't think the algorithm is trying to 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:48.560 find things that you like. I think they're to me. 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:50.359 They're trying to find things that are gonna rile me up. 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:52.720 They want me to leave a comment. They want me 0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:53.399 to leave a comment. 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:56.120 They know the difference between a scroller and a commenter 0:21:56.200 --> 0:22:00.840 for sure. Interest they know you engage and they give 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:03.200 me what take and they give you what to engage with. 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:06.200 Which is husband's not treating women tradwives. 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:08.439 I've like never left a TikTok comment in my life, 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:10.879 so they're like, oh, if you had looked at my 0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:13.359 old TikTok, like it would have just been animal videos. 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:14.879 So they're about like, oh, here, this person just likes 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:16.760 animal videos because that's like what I was showing rosy 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:19.280 and little dances once in a while, but like it 0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:23.879 was never giving me anything angering because I was never commenting. Wow, 0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:26.520 they have profiles on all of us. I'm sure no 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:27.960 right now, right now. 0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:30.680 My keyword that's riling me up is I get a 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:32.840 lot of podcasts of people being like, you need to 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:38.080 submit to your man, oh like tradwives stuff. Yeah, trad 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:40.080 wives and the men that want them. 0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:41.320 Yeah. 0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:43.680 And then it's people being like, I want a man 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:46.000 to lead, but you have to be the leader. I 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:48.280 will not submit to not a leader, but once I 0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:57.080 feel safe, Oh my god. Okay, it's just the idea 0:22:57.119 --> 0:22:59.199 that stay at home moms feel like they're under attack 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:01.520 and that like people are against their lifestyle when it's 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:03.800 truly like, no one cares. I wrote that, and our 0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:05.520 girl goes, have you been living under a rock? And 0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:08.679 it's like, honestly, if anyone cares about stay at home mothers, 0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:12.119 it's me wanting you to have better rights, wanting your 0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:14.080 husband to give you money and the government to pay 0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:15.399 you for taking care of your kids. 0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:17.720 If anything, the feminists that. 0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:21.280 You're against want you to have more protections so you 0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:23.440 can leave if something is dangerous. 0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:23.640 You know what I mean. 0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:27.159 Like, the people who are truly attacking you are the 0:23:27.160 --> 0:23:29.800 people that don't have parental leaves and maternity leaves and 0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:32.440 all this stuff. And they think it's like these single 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:35.280 women with cats trying to make them go to work, 0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:37.920 and it's like, no, the economy makes people go to work. 0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:40.679 Yeah, you're talking in nuance, and there's no place for 0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:41.480 that on the internet. 0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:43.800 Though, you know, maybe I needed to hear that. I 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:48.240 need to write that down. There's no nuance on the internet. Yeah, 0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:51.639 no place for it. Thank you, Kara. That's why I 0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:55.560 look to you to help me to listen. 0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:58.280 We forgot to mention that in Casey's place, we have 0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:02.199 been reunited with our old producers. We're so excited to 0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:05.240 have them back, but they are spiritually waving a flag 0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:07.240 at us right now, and we have to go well. 0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:10.800 Not only waving the flags spiritually, they also were working 0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:11.400 with us when we. 0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:12.440 Were a little more hinged. 0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:16.800 Now it's off the I mean this pile of boxes. 0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:19.040 The interview guys saw it like. I didn't even hide 0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:21.439 those boxes from you. Yeah, you didn't even hide the 0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:25.040 boxes behind you, No, you did, you were turned. It 0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:27.359 was just the iced tea behind you. I remember once 0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:32.480 I noticed because I noticed so Annale's left and we 0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:37.080 were just like good little girls. And then yeah. 0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:40.320 Casey really let this place get get out of control. 0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:46.360 Casey's are really fatty now. But I have harassed both 0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:48.040 of you not wearing pants and standing up. 0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:49.680 So that's good. That's the good. 0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:53.760 You know in front, you're equal across all producers. They 0:24:53.800 --> 0:24:55.440 will all see your underwear at some point. 0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:58.679 I also want to give a friendship shout out to 0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:01.520 Kara before we start. Today is the thirtieth that you 0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:05.160 are listening, which means the moving trucks are in LA 0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:09.560 and putting my stuff away, and Kara has been an 0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:10.200 immense help. 0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:13.760 You haven't even said on the podcast What's Happening? 0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.080 No, oh yeah, I'm moving to New York. Today is 0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:18.520 the day, the thirtieth. The truck is here. I am 0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:22.840 going back to what if Kara say, my spiritual homeland. 0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:27.919 Her spiritual homeland, Manhattan, Manhattan. I am going to miss her, 0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:29.760 but I'm thrilled for her because I know she loves 0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:31.160 it there, and we're going to be a bi coastal 0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:32.919 pod and nothing will really change. 0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:35.280 This is so funny to do this announcement after twenty 0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:35.879 five minutes of it. 0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:39.280 Yeah, we're like quick announcement at the end. Liza's moving. 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:41.280 I mean it's we do live three blocks away from 0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:43.680 each other, so it is sad. You know that now 0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:46.320 you will be three thousand miles away from me, and 0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:48.240 you do have a best friend that lives out there. 0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:50.240 But next time we do a show in New York, 0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:52.359 we can sleep in Manhattan. 0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:53.560 Yeah. 0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:56.680 Well also my best friend, but also my family lives 0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:58.040 in New York, like my sister. 0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:01.080 I'll be back, But I wouldn't stay with your sister. 0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:01.919 Oh no, I wouldn't. 0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:03.760 I wouldn't, but I'll be back, I mean all the time, 0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:05.120 Like I'll be there probably more. 0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:07.640 But you would get drunk and sleep with me. Yes, 0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:10.000 I will, maybe I can't wait. Oh my gosh. 0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:13.639 You know, Kara cleaned out my garage that caused me 0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:17.440 anxiety for a while. You really cleaned it all out 0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:18.399 and under an hour. 0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:21.680 Yeah, well you just got a focus and get in there. 0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:24.400 And you know, yeah, I forget that. You love adderall 0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:25.360 and maybe I need it. 0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:28.879 But adderall makes my heart beat too fast and I 0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:30.159 don't sleep and I don't like that. 0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:33.760 Yeah, I get that. I mean I'm prescribed it, so 0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:35.879 it's like it's it works for me. Oh yeah, no, 0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:38.959 my fellow salon receptionist gave it to me one day. 0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:42.240 That's like a doctor. Okay, let's get started. We've got 0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:43.639 a great episode for you guys. 0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:46.480 Just thanks to Kara for helping me get packed up 0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:48.639 on a move she doesn't want me to do. 0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:52.040 So that's a huge friendship. Most you're welcome. You know, 0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:52.439 I'll be. 0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:54.879 I'll help you move back out to LA when you 0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:56.280 get cast in something out here. 0:26:57.760 --> 0:26:59.080 No, no, no, i'll be. I'll be. 0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:02.040 I'll be in Rosie's bunk bed. Thank you very much. 0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:10.840 All right, Starting now today, we are doing heightened Emotions. 0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:14.119 It sounds like a pop song. From the eighties and 0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:16.600 it is season eighteen, episode four. 0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:19.560 This baby came out a. 0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:22.879 Two weeks before Donald Trump ruined our lives, and this 0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:25.959 episode starts with one of my most hated activities running. 0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:29.240 We open on a woman running on a treadmill while 0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:32.239 her little kid's like mommy, Mommy, mommy, and she is 0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:35.880 like tuned out, zoned in. She's in like a running trance. 0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:38.119 Her husband comes in and he's like, babe, you've been 0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:40.520 doing this for over an hour, and she's like, one 0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:42.880 more mile and then she ups the speed and I'm like, wow, 0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:46.159 I have never not related to somebody more cut to 0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:49.440 one of s fu's all time most stated characters, Kim Rowlins, 0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:53.200 friend of the pod Lindsay Pulsifer, and she is before 0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:56.440 the parole board pleading her case, saying she just needs 0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:57.959 to get out of jail to meet her one year 0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:00.879 old niece, Jesse, and she's wave a picture of her 0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:03.679 around and she's like, I trust in Jesus and the 0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:06.160 mercy of this parole board to give me a chance 0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:09.440 to be the manipulative criminal aunt that Jesse deserves. So 0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:12.840 we see Amanda in the background watching all this bullshit 0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:16.000 being spun and She's like, mmm, like, you know, doing 0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:19.800 her big sisterly duties. Then we caught to Live in 0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:22.359 Amanda in her office, and Live is just summarizing it 0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:24.639 for us. She's like, okay, so Kim made parole and 0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:27.160 wants to live with you, and Amanda's like, yeah, well, 0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:29.640 I mean she can't leave the state, so it's either 0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:32.400 my apartment or a shelter, and Live is like Live 0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:35.359 is ruthless. She's like, maybe this shelter would be better, 0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:39.680 and Amanda's like live, shelters are shady. People get assaulted 0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:42.360 and killed in shelters, and she goes plus Kim says 0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:44.720 she found Jesus, and Live goes, well, I hope she did, 0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:47.560 because if you cover for her again, I'll have your badge. 0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:51.320 And yeah, Olivia doesn't have any siblings, and she's like, 0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:53.760 I don't understand the loyalty, but if you fuck up again, 0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:54.920 you're fired. 0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:58.280 Well you can be nice, sir, you can go out 0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:01.960 for a lunch, But no, you cannot manipulate the legal system. 0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:04.040 Yeah, you can't cover her crimes. 0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:08.240 You can't find you can't hide evidence in an ongoing investigation. 0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:13.200 You can't you can't go to arrest her at Bryant 0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:15.960 Park and then be like, on, actually, we got into 0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:17.400 a fight, so I decided to let her go. 0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:18.480 You can't do that. 0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:21.760 Yeah, so she actually just left it. I didn't chase her. Yeah, 0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:23.000 but I was very pregnant. 0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:28.240 She can't decide what's worse, like Amanda full on gambling 0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:32.840 and moonlighting as a gambling guy girl or. 0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:35.400 Fully covering for her sister. Like, I don't know which 0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:36.080 one is worse. 0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:41.480 I think covering her sister is worse in all ways, 0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:43.760 probably because it's untenable, like you never know what Kim's 0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:46.360 gonna do. Like the gambling is like your own personal problem. 0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:49.880 Plenty of cops are gamblers and addicts of all kinds 0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:50.440 of stripes. 0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:52.760 But remember when she's stole evidence, Remember she put on 0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:55.120 a hat and enter the evidence closet. 0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:59.959 Yes, yes, wow, Amanda's really come a long way. 0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:07.120 Deserves some jail time too. Sorry no, but yeah, so 0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:09.520 it's like, yeah, you could see your sister, but stop 0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:12.840 getting manipulated. Let's you know, yeah, totally. 0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:18.600 So this episode takes you to seventeen locations in the intro, 0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:22.160 so next scene, we're at an upscale hotel bar with 0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:24.959 a bunch of empty shot glasses lined up, someone's partying. 0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:27.840 The bartender's like six in a row, and we see 0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:30.720 our running babe, played by the actress Britt Morgan, who 0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:32.720 I know from like True Blood, and she's been in. 0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:34.240 Like a bunch of other stuff. 0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:36.520 She's out of the sneakers now she's in a hot, 0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:40.040 sparkly dress. She's wasted and ready for that seventh shot. 0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:42.560 And then she makes eye contact with a dude at 0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:46.560 the bar and starts dancing towards him. It's very very like, 0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:51.040 you know, sort of like drunk flirting. This actor is 0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:55.200 named Theo Stockman. He is a Broadway dude, and he's like, 0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:58.280 you might be the most gorgeous woman I've ever seen, 0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:03.200 but he looks to me, he looks villainous. And the 0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:06.320 next thing we see are bare feet stepping up onto 0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:09.280 the side of a building and her dress is torn. 0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:11.400 She looks like she might fall. It's the middle of 0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:11.720 the night. 0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:14.520 She gets down from the side of the roof and 0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:16.200 then walks to the other side of the building. She's 0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:19.040 narrating the whole thing like a sportscaster. Then she gets 0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:22.320 a running head start and jumps and you're like, oh no, no, 0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:24.680 don't do this, don't do this. She makes it to 0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:27.200 the next building. She just jumps to the next building, 0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:30.520 which is terrifying. Next thing we see is her sprinting 0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:33.080 on a cobblestone street maybe meatpacking has a little bit 0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:36.280 of cobblestone, and the cop pulls up to be like, girl, 0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:39.200 are you okay? And then she runs straight into another cop. 0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:42.440 And then when she runs into this cop physically, he's 0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.120 holding her and she starts hysterically laughing and saying I 0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:47.880 won over and over again, and the camera hits on 0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:50.160 the tear in her dress. There's bruising on her thighs, 0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:53.240 like nothing good happened to this woman. But what's going on? 0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:55.920 So now we're at the credits dun du da da 0:31:56.040 --> 0:32:00.760 da da duh. And now we are at raw this place. 0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:03.000 She's getting ready to leave for work. She can't find 0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.360 Kim or Jesse, but then they emerge from the bathroom 0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:07.880 where Kim's like, we were just checking out our reflection. 0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:10.080 She's like, don't worry, Amanda, you can leave me and 0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:13.160 Jesse and Amanda's like yeah, okay, Jan like I don't 0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:16.040 think so, and Kim explains, you know, mistakes happens. It's 0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:18.600 all about how you bounce back, and Amanda's like, save 0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.080 the fortune cookie philosophy. I heard enough of your bs 0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:23.520 at the parole hearing. So she like lays down the 0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:25.400 law for Kim. She's like, once grew up and it's 0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:28.080 shelter time, baby, Like you're not no drugs, no men, 0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:31.600 no manipulating, scheming whatever. And that's when Kim's like, we 0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:33.400 can wait for the setter, and Amanda's like, no way, 0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:35.560 no day. And Kim's like, Okay, I'm just gonna have 0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:37.840 to earn mama's trust. The Lord is my shepherd, blah 0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:41.160 blah blah. And then at the hospital Amanda meets live 0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:43.920 and gets the low down that this runner woman is 0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:47.480 named Jenna Miller. She's a housewife from Long Island. She 0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:49.719 was picked up jumping from roof to roof at three 0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:52.960 point thirty in the morning. She didn't disclose an assault, 0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:55.840 but she's got bite marks, bruising, anal bleeding, which you 0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:59.280 never like to see. And then the saane nurse called 0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:02.680 it in to be safe. So in the room with Jenna, 0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:05.440 she clearly does not want the cops involved. She's like, 0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:06.920 who called the cops? What's going on? 0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:09.000 She says? She doesn't really remember what happened. 0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:10.840 She came into the city for a drink, but she 0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:14.040 wasn't meeting anybody specific. And her husband is like right 0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:16.040 out outside of the room, making a scene like I 0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:18.760 want to see my wife, like the usual nonsense, and 0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:20.320 then the lives like, girl, if you want to spill 0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:21.640 any tea without your husband knowing? 0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:24.160 But what what would you rather have a husband going 0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:25.960 I need to say my wife or a husband that 0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:29.440 doesn't come to the hospital, who's calm, someone that arrives 0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:33.000 goes listen, I'll be over here. I got a I 0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:36.440 got a cosma. I was actually thinking of getting a 0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:40.120 tuna sandwich downstairs. And yeah, tell me, tell. 0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:42.040 Me what's up with my wife whenever when she's done 0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:43.600 with the cops. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let me know. 0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:46.880 Now you need you need an aggressive husband who needs 0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:48.880 to see you now yeah yeah. 0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:50.760 And it's we've seen a lot of those on est Fio. 0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:53.640 You know, he's part of the canon of aggressive I 0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:54.680 need to see my wife. 0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:56.920 He's part of the cannon of you know that when 0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.440 they're out and about in public, he does this thing 0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:01.360 that I hate that I've talked about, where like you 0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.680 grab the back of a woman's shoulder, like not shoulder, 0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:07.640 but like, uh, upper arm, the back of the upper arm, 0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:09.920 and you kind of guide them with your grip. 0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:16.399 Yeah, that's that hearing. That's the vibe I have. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, oof. Okay, wow, 0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:21.000 that's so specific. But they're like, girl, this is the time. 0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:24.200 If you want anything to be known without your husband knowing, 0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:25.440 let's cough it up. 0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:26.799 And she's like, I just want to go home. 0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.439 And then the husband's making noise and she's like, wait, 0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:31.640 that's my husband. He I just need to explain. He 0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:33.680 runs in. He's like, I've been worried, sick, You've been 0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:37.040 gone all night. And now at this moment, she's like, okay, 0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:40.719 I was raped, and she confesses and lives like, okay, 0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:42.120 we got to get the husband out of here. So 0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:44.319 she scoots him out and at that point he's fine 0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:46.560 to go. I don't know why. Now he's fine to 0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:48.359 go for a walk with O Lilvia pens. Oh it 0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:49.799 was a im out. 0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:50.520 Yeah. 0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:52.719 He's like, okay, you guys handle this. I'll be outside. 0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:56.600 He tells Olivia he was home that night watching their son, 0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:58.480 and he's like, well. Sometimes she goes into the city 0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:01.359 to unwind and she's under stressed. We have a five 0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:04.120 year old son. And they're like, how's the marriage and 0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:06.400 he's like, no problem. We fight like other people do, 0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:09.319 but we love each other. And they're like, well, what 0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:13.000 about like these city things, like what you didn't like? 0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:14.600 What did you think about that? And she he's like, well, 0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:16.480 I don't want to be a controlling husband. I don't 0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:18.439 really know what she gets up to. When she goes 0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:19.960 into the city. She just says, I'm going to the 0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:23.280 city and I let her live. So back to Rollin's 0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:25.480 talking to Jenna and she tells Rolins about how she 0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:28.040 met this guy Phil. She thinks at a hotel bar 0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:30.279 somewhere downtown. They got a room and he hurt her. 0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:33.160 She goes, I said no and he forced me. So 0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:35.719 now Rollins is walking and talking with Live and she's like, 0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:37.160 I don't know. It seems like she picked up a 0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:40.400 stranger and things got reughered than she wanted. And Olivia 0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:43.720 is like, yes, but girl, the baseline of our job 0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.120 is if she didn't want it, that's rape. And then 0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:49.040 I'm like Rollins is like, either way, I think there's 0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:50.560 more to this story than she's not saying. 0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:53.319 They found her at mercer and broom. 0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:56.000 So let's check out hotels around there, and let's work 0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:59.279 around her instead of with her, and she's not being forthcoming. 0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:02.440 Now we're at the Worcester Hotel Carisium Fenner talking to 0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:04.799 the bartender who was serving Jenna all those shots. He 0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:06.759 calls her Barbie, but he's like, I'm guessing that's not 0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:09.640 her real name. And she comes in a couple times 0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:12.080 a month and he's never seen her pay for a drink, 0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:15.280 and that last night, some rich douchebag paid for her drinks, 0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:19.160 and let's get the receipts, as Whitney would say. And 0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.879 now we're at the office of Michael Wheeler, the guy 0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:23.960 who picked her up. So it's not Phil, that's a 0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:27.160 that's a fake name for him. And he's got he's 0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:29.399 got really creepy vibes to me and he's like, oh, 0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:31.840 she's saying I raped her. Not surprised. She was the 0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:34.239 biggest pain in the ass hooker I ever met. And 0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:36.400 they're like, okay, I want to you tell us what happened. 0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:38.120 And he's like, she came on to me, I got 0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:40.200 a room, I laid out five hundred bucks. 0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:42.560 We go at it. Then she starts crying because I'm 0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:44.640 being too rough, like he's mocking her, like the way 0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:45.520 he's telling the story. 0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:48.040 I know it's like really bad, but I am so 0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:49.040 attracted to him. 0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:50.920 I know he is so fucking hot. 0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:55.279 But yeah, criminal, yeah, like, I'm sure they picked him 0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:57.080 because he can play creepy. I'm sure he's a lovely 0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:59.960 man that has like, you know, a small dog or something. 0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:04.440 And he says, no, oh, yeah, I found I found 0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:08.080 a photo of him with like like a chunky side 0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:11.080 bang with a little hat that h Taylor Swift wears 0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:13.120 in the I'm Feeling twenty two video. 0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:16.600 What are those called fedoras? 0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:16.920 No? 0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:20.360 I would I would know what a is? So how Dario? Well, No, 0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:22.520 I I don't know what what's the tailic go? I 0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:23.640 don't know. You gotta look it up. 0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:25.680 I mean, I'm offended that you don't think I know 0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:27.160 what a fedora is, but I don't know what this 0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:27.719 hat is called. 0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:30.120 I know you know what a fedora is, but to me, 0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:31.680 that's a fedora what she's wearing. 0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:36.640 No, it's a different kind of situation. Pork pie hat. Yes, yes, 0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:38.799 I think is that what it's called? Yes? Oh oh yes, 0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:39.799 that's exactly it. 0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:40.200 Wow. 0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:42.600 I just thought maybe you were forgetting the word for Dora. 0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:43.719 I know, you know what a. 0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:45.200 No. 0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:49.120 We've been haunted by too many Fedoras in our lives. 0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:53.080 But this guy has been in like American Idiot other shit. 0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:55.520 So I wonder if the Fedora and the chunky bang 0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:58.520 was part of like a part he was playing or 0:37:58.560 --> 0:37:59.479 something like that. 0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:04.600 Oh wait, Leah Michelle's ex boyfriend. Oh, I didn't know 0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:07.200 that I din at the World Premiere. He wore the 0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:11.240 hat at the World Premiere. Stop defending him with his hat. 0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:15.680 Wow. He broke it off because she can't read anyway. 0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:18.479 This guy is being a dick, and he's like, that's 0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:20.640 what I'm paying for, to be able to do whatever 0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:22.680 I fucking want. And she's like, did she forget to 0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:25.719 mention that I was paying? And Rollins and Benson now 0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:28.080 are at the house in Long Island. Jenna comes to 0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:30.400 the door kind of wild eyed, being like it's not 0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:33.040 a good time, and then they're like, well, we found 0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:35.960 Phil and he says you're a sex worker, So what's up, girl, 0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:39.480 And she explains that listen, a year ago, I went 0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:41.359 to a bar alone, a guy hit on me. They 0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:44.120 hooked up afterwards, he left two hundred dollars on the 0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:47.120 dresser and she was shocked, but then she was thrilled. 0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:48.560 She got hooked. 0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:51.520 No pun intended, but she does say that she got hooked, 0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:54.960 and she says she does it once in a while, 0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:56.960 like goes into the city and like you know, sees 0:38:57.000 --> 0:38:59.239 who she can pick up. And then but she was 0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:00.799 like this guy raped me. 0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:02.640 She says. She's like, I didn't take the money. I 0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:03.399 ran out of there. 0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:05.560 The husband comes to the door and then everybody shuts 0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:07.960 up about it, and then she tries to get him 0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:09.680 to scram and he's like, Bibe, we got to tell 0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:12.239 him the big secret. And it's like they're gonna find out. 0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:14.279 And it's like, what the hell is the secret? And 0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:15.600 the secret is done? 0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:16.080 Done. 0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:20.680 She's an Olympic level pole vaulter. Like it's the wildest twists. 0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:23.279 Like I nobody googled her. They were just like she's 0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:26.400 a housewife from Long Island, but she's this massive athlete. 0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:29.920 But also, Kara mention one pole vaulter's name. 0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:31.879 That's what I was saying too. I was like, it's 0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:34.719 not like she's a gymnast or an ice skater. Come on, like, 0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:35.480 we don't. 0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:39.200 Know even a sand volleyball, you know, or even track 0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:41.600 and field. If it's in the track and field realm 0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:43.759 of like pole vaulting, it's usually the runners, you know, 0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:45.759 like the sprinters, Like we can't you know, you know 0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:48.480 who Shakari Jackson is or whatever, like there's some people, 0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:50.759 but what I have known who Shakari Jackson was if 0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:53.279 she didn't have like fun, like a fun vibe and 0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:54.080 love wed I. 0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:56.960 Don't know, I don't know, but yeah, like it is 0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:59.800 really funny that they chose pole vaulting instead of another 0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:01.120 like sport. 0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:05.680 But you know, there was actually there was one high 0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:08.319 jumper during some sort of Olympics that I remember did 0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:11.319 get super famous because she was on Jay Leno. Yes, 0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:14.160 I watched this Tonight's show Get Over and Everybody. But 0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:16.360 maybe it was Letterman. I think it was Leno. But 0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:19.080 she loved Krispy Kremes. Those were like her cheat thing, 0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:21.279 and it was when Krispy Kremes were huge, and so 0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:25.280 they made her high jump over a bunch of boxes 0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:27.640 of Krispy Kremes and then afterwards she like ate one 0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:31.640 of the Krispy Kreams. But I still don't remember her name, 0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:35.560 but I remember the donut. So even with her success, 0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:39.200 I just remember I don't remember what she won, but 0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:42.080 I do remember she jumped over a box of boxes 0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:42.920 of Krispy Kremes. 0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:46.799 Oh my god, that's really funny. Well listen, I'm not 0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:49.880 no shade to pull vaulting. I'm sure it's extremely difficult. 0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:52.320 I mean, my roommate in college was a triple jumper. 0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:55.040 We were not thinking it's easy. Yeah, I didn't even 0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:56.880 know what triple jumping was, but it was just like, 0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:58.840 she can jump far, Like I don't know, people do 0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:01.719 all kinds of wild and field sports. But she's an 0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.239 Olympic level poll vulter. She's the world record holder. And 0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:06.600 she's like, this is tabloid news, and I'm like, I 0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:07.799 don't know about that. 0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:09.960 And she says she didn't. 0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:11.960 Make the Rio Olympics on a technicality, but she's the 0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:15.440 front runner for gold in Tokyo. So they go back 0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:18.000 into the house and there's tons of promotional material with 0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:20.600 Jenna on her holding her poll. 0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:22.800 It's like very Gatorade, very Nike. 0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:25.640 And again I did write in my notes, I don't 0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:27.280 know if any of us can name a mega famous 0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:29.719 pole vaulter. But that's the reality that we're in right now, 0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:32.920 and she's like, if this story gets out, I lose everything. 0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:36.239 So top of that too, we're at the precinct and. 0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:38.640 We're all watching the footage of Jenna's big fuck up 0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:41.200 where she got disqualified from the US team, Like I 0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:44.200 don't know something when she jumped over the pole vaulting 0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:47.839 bar or something lodged the bar, so she gets disqualified 0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:50.480 on a technicality. Her husband's there on the video. They 0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:53.640 look distraught, so they're explaining the whole situation to Barba. 0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:56.560 She's scared of her secret coming out and they can't 0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:58.680 make the case without the victim. But this Michael guy 0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:00.600 didn't skip a beat when the cop showed up. He's 0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:03.080 probably a frequent flyer with sex workers, like we got 0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:05.080 to go check out like other people that may have 0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:10.040 been his victims. So now it's Carreese and Rollins chatting 0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:12.480 and it's like, turns out this guy Wheeler, Michael Wheeler, 0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:15.200 is the bad guy. It turns out he's a millionaire. 0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:18.880 He spends thirty thousand dollars a month just on drinks, meals, 0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:22.880 and miscellaneous entertainment, which is code to your accountant for 0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:26.360 escorts and strip clubs. According to them, and Rollin's as 0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:28.719 usual as judging the victim and is like, why throw 0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:29.399 everything away? 0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:31.800 You've got a husband and a child. It's like, girl, 0:42:32.520 --> 0:42:33.239 greasy goes. 0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:36.200 We don't get the pressure of competing at that level, Like, 0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:39.400 come on, why throw everything away and be a gambling addict? 0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:42.520 You had an okay life, you know, like, and Amanda's 0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:45.160 like whatever, we all have pressure and just then little 0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:46.480 sis Kim shows up at. 0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:49.319 Work and you failed. That's the thing with Kim. 0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:53.000 It's like she has no patience for anybody because she 0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:54.799 has had it worse or whatever in her hat or 0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:59.080 she's had it hard too, but she's fucked up. Yeah, 0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:03.920 she wasn't chill with pressure. She succumbs to it. Yeah, 0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:07.120 what the fuck? I like hate her right now. I 0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:10.680 feel like this is part so like this is season eighteen. Yeah, 0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:12.719 she's been on for five seasons. She's still kind of 0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:15.000 heavy and some blaming victims. She doesn't do that as 0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:17.960 much in like the more recent seasons. But so anyway, 0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:20.120 Kim shows up at the precinct, which is always a 0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:21.759 no no, and she's like, I was just in the 0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:23.319 neighborhood and I wanted to stop by. 0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:25.000 I had my first meeting with. 0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:28.200 My PO, and she's like excitedly telling her and cares 0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:30.160 about all these big plans that she talked about with 0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:32.680 her PO, like going back to school, getting a job. 0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:34.040 Amanda interrupts her and is like, you. 0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:35.759 Can't just drop by the precinct like this, You got 0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:38.760 to go home, and then she leaves and Cariese's like, well, 0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:41.520 it does seem like she's trying, and Amanda's like, yeah, 0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:43.359 it's the calm before the storm. I can't have her 0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:47.279 blow out my life again. And then meanwhile, Finn found 0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:49.600 some sex workers who are familiar with the work of 0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:52.920 Michael Wheeler. So the first girl they talked to seems 0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:55.080 like a very high on sex worker. She's ad some 0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:58.279 sort of outdoor rooftop establishment and she's like, yeah, this 0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:01.960 guy calls himself Phil. My booker caught him off. He 0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:04.200 thought since he was paying, he could do whatever he wanted. 0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:06.759 He was really rough, hitting, slapping. The more you say no, 0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:09.200 the more he likes it. She says she didn't call 0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:11.080 the cops because there's no such thing as rape in 0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:13.400 her line of work, and Rollins is now talking to 0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:16.320 another woman with pink hair, who says this guy paid 0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:18.600 for straight sex, but then just did whatever he wanted. 0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:21.080 She said she was bleeding for days, which is a horrible, 0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:25.920 horrible detail, but you know, to communicate the violence that 0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:26.680 she experienced. 0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:28.479 Then she asked this guy. 0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:31.080 She basically extorted this guy for five thousand dollars and 0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:33.840 he paid up and she said, I'll testify though I 0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:37.520 hate that guy. So there are a dozen sex workers 0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:40.839 it turns out, who say Phil Aka Wheeler assaulted them 0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:43.759 in the middle of you know, the transaction, and not 0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:45.920 one of them called the cops or did a rape kit. 0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:47.799 And the only one willing to testify is Pink Hair, 0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:50.560 and she got paid off, so it's not looking good. 0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:52.920 This guy targets sex workers because he knows he can 0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:55.880 get away with it. So let's try to convince Jenna 0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:58.960 to do a controlled meet with them. This is Liv's idea. 0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:01.600 So he talked Jenna and she's like, I don't want 0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:03.640 this to go to trial. My husband will find out, 0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:06.200 and but I also know that this guy is a 0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:08.640 bully and he's hurt other women, and I want to 0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:10.880 do the right thing. So they're like, what about this 0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:14.279 controlled meeting and you wear a wire while you meet 0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:16.040 up with him and we'll see if we can get 0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:18.360 him to confess. And then she's like, okay, let's do 0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:20.560 it right now. So she's literally in the same outfit. 0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:23.480 It's the same day. It feels like they set it up. 0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:27.040 An hour later, at a hotel bar, Phil walks in 0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:29.960 to meet her and he's like, okay, how much give 0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:33.080 me a number, and he's like, you call the cops 0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:36.240 on me, So this is obviously a shakedown. Cariese, Rollins, 0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:38.480 and Vann are all in a van watching listening to 0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:40.799 this encounter. She's like, I don't want the money. I 0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:42.640 just want an apology for what you did to me. 0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:44.920 And then he's like, so if I apologize, that's it, 0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:47.279 and then she just starts going, just say it, just 0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:47.920 say what you did. 0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:48.400 Just say it. 0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:52.440 Like she kind of takes it, like, you know, escalates 0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:55.799 it very quickly. Suddenly the husband shows up at the bar. 0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:59.439 It's chaos. The cops move in. Michael Wheeler guy tells 0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:02.400 Jenna's how been your wife's a hooker. Then as the 0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:05.080 cops are busting in, Wheeler calls Jenna a crazy bitch, 0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:08.239 and the husband's like, you're the rapist, and Wheeler's like, 0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:10.840 you can't rape a whore, and that's when the husband 0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:11.400 punches him. 0:46:11.440 --> 0:46:12.160 It didn't matter that. 0:46:12.080 --> 0:46:14.440 He called her a hooker, calling her a whore, that 0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:15.600 took it to another level. 0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:18.200 Punches him in the face. It's peak s buchaos. 0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:21.920 Jenna tries to swing on the guy, but Rollins grabs her, 0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:24.799 and Jenna's like, cool, Google, my whole life just went 0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:28.440 up in flames, and she looks extremely stressed. Now Rollins 0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:30.480 has Jenna in some kind of hotel hallway, making sure 0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:32.800 that she feels safe going home with her husband because 0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:35.200 he's so mad, and Jenna's like, he's gonna leave me, 0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:36.759 but She's like, he would never hurt me, Like I 0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:39.480 feel safe going home with him. So if this goes 0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:42.680 to trial, this all goes public, Jenna realizes. So she's, 0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:45.600 you know, having a real stress attack about this, and 0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:48.880 Rollins tells her, you know, most mainstream media won't publish 0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:51.800 the victim's name, but there are no guarantees, and especially 0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:55.640 with high profile people, like names have gotten out for sure. 0:46:56.120 --> 0:46:58.560 So Jenna knows that he's gonna hurt other women. She 0:46:58.560 --> 0:46:59.919 wants to do the right thing, but she can't rest 0:46:59.920 --> 0:47:02.000 the publicity. She's got to talking over with her husband 0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:04.640 who's I'm just finding out his name is Chad and 0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:07.319 that Tokyo twenty twenty is Chad's dream as much as 0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:10.319 it is hers. And so now outside the couple is 0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:13.160 talking to the squad and Chad is like, it's not 0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:16.120 worth it for Jenna to testify. It can't change what happened, 0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:19.440 and Cariese's like, well, a crime was committed, so this 0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:22.120 isn't entirely up to you, and Chad's like, easy for 0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:23.719 you to say you're not married to her. You didn't 0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:26.120 dedicate your whole life to her, and it's like it's 0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:28.200 kind of on you, dude, Like all like all you 0:47:28.239 --> 0:47:31.040 do is coach your wife and if something goes wrong, 0:47:31.360 --> 0:47:33.200 that's that doesn't seem like a great recipe for a 0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:35.720 great marriage. But they walk off and Live in caris 0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:38.240 you're chatting and he's like, ooh, that was rough finding 0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:41.239 out your wife is a prostitute, and Live says every 0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:43.680 relationship has secrets, creasy, and he goes, that's why I'm 0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:46.160 happy I'm single, and I'm like, lol, you're like a 0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:49.160 married father of three. In ten minutes, bro, like, chill out, 0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:52.399 and then he's like he figures, now's a good time 0:47:52.440 --> 0:47:54.520 to pro Bolivia about her personal life, and he goes, 0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:57.360 everything cool with you and Tucker and Olivia kind of 0:47:57.360 --> 0:47:59.960 takes a deep breath, and that's exactly when Rollin's in. 0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:01.120 Finnroll up with a lead. 0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:04.000 They figured out a way to make a case without Jenna, 0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:06.920 so they checked Jenna's phone records and they realized that 0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:09.680 the night of the attack, she called her sports agent 0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:13.360 Derek Koller. He's one of the big reps, like he 0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:15.880 wraps all these mets, all these nicks, and they talked 0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:18.720 for seventeen minutes, which is definitely enough time to disclose 0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:22.160 a rape. So now we are at Jerry Maguire's office 0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:25.520 and he is like typical Ari Gold type wannabe, like 0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:28.480 looks very slick, and he's like playing dumb and he's like, yeah, 0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:31.120 Jenna called me. She was drunk. And then they're like, okay, dude, 0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:34.600 we're investigating a rape allegation. And he's like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:36.080 she did tell me she was raped, and he goes, 0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:38.000 I thought she was irrational and hysterical. 0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:39.240 I didn't think she meant it. 0:48:39.239 --> 0:48:41.759 It's like, okay, but if she was, if she just 0:48:41.800 --> 0:48:44.160 came in matter of fact, he'd be like, she seemed 0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:46.800 too calm. I didn't think it was a rape. Yeah, exactly. 0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:49.839 Don't they all think it's like a crazy stranger an 0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:52.920 attacked from a bush. So if that's real, wouldn't she 0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:58.200 be yeah stressed? Like I don't understand that answer anyway, 0:48:58.280 --> 0:48:59.279 but okay. 0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:00.200 Yeah, yeah. 0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:04.920 So you know, Jenna's worried about losing endorsements and all 0:49:04.960 --> 0:49:07.040 this stuff, and he goes, she's right to be worried, 0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:09.720 like she will lose it. I mean, she's a gifted athlete, 0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:12.799 she's sweet, she's gorgeous. With the near miss with the 0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:16.480 Rio team, everybody's on her side. She's got the public sympathy, 0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:19.960 and now like she's like she's truly looking at standing 0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:22.600 to earn like millions and millions of dollars. And they're like, 0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:25.239 and you just want her ten percent, right, And he's like, no, 0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:27.920 of course, I'm outraged that she was attacked. But he 0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:30.120 also tries to see if they can postpone the trial 0:49:30.200 --> 0:49:32.879 till after Tokyo, and Finn's like, dude, this. 0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:34.839 Isn't jury duty. It doesn't work like that. You can't 0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:36.320 just like push it off for four years. 0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:39.520 Now we've got Jenna talking to Barba, and she's like, 0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:42.600 Derek agreed to testify, Like she can't believe that because 0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:43.839 like his whole thing is like. 0:49:43.800 --> 0:49:45.000 Protecting his investment. 0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:46.920 And she's like, and he's the one that told me 0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:49.200 to just go home and keep my mouth shut. So 0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:52.680 they're surprised, and then just at that moment, Jenna's phone buzzes, 0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:55.600 and what do you know, Jerry Maguire has dumbed her ass, 0:49:55.680 --> 0:49:58.560 and he's like, he basically says something along the line's left. 0:49:58.560 --> 0:50:00.200 I want you to get help, but you're per psonal 0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:03.000 life is incompatible with our firm's values. And it's like 0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:05.520 you can just imagine the number of rapists that this 0:50:05.560 --> 0:50:09.279 guy actually represents, you know, like, but. 0:50:09.320 --> 0:50:13.320 Well, but that's part of their image. They will represent 0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:16.799 athlete rapists. They just don't want rape victims. Do not 0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:20.839 see the difference, Yes, well, yes, exactly. But I think 0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:23.719 what he's talking about is her prostitution. Is what he's 0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:24.960 acting like is the problem. 0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:29.440 You know, sex is an issue because you know when 0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:32.080 it's like, I don't know anybody can spend this says 0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:33.440 like this is just a kink that she likes to 0:50:33.480 --> 0:50:34.280 hook up with strangers. 0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:35.759 She's not making a living doing this. 0:50:35.920 --> 0:50:40.200 But also the super Bowl is the number one event 0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:43.080 in the US the highest rate of human trafficking. 0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:45.200 And right like sex workers and shit like that. 0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:50.319 Yeah, totally, Oh whatever, So this guy's a fucking hypocrite. 0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:52.319 He's like, I'll help you, just kidding, get out of 0:50:52.320 --> 0:50:54.320 my life. Do you know that it is very well 0:50:54.360 --> 0:50:56.359 known that in the Middle East, like all of these 0:50:56.360 --> 0:50:59.160 super super rich billionaires and princes and just like you know, 0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:03.799 bad people that made up there, they hire sex workers. 0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:06.680 And then they shit in their mouths. What it's called 0:51:06.680 --> 0:51:09.439 the Blessers. Well, my South African friends said, the joke 0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:12.560 was like that they're the Blessers. But yeah, they're like 0:51:12.680 --> 0:51:16.160 really twisted billionaires and like really hot women from the 0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:17.920 US or wherever wherever. 0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:20.520 If they want, they can fly out. 0:51:21.040 --> 0:51:23.680 It's you do, get like sixty one hundred thousand dollars 0:51:23.760 --> 0:51:26.640 whatever and that, but you will have to fuck a 0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:29.680 dog or like get shit on or shit in someone's mind. 0:51:29.840 --> 0:51:32.279 God, that's like just about humiliation, right. 0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:36.160 Well yeah, and it's like a repressed culture to begin with. 0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:37.680 But I don't know why you have to jump straight 0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:40.920 to that, but they're just evil people. So for entertainment 0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:44.280 or like, yeah, the control of it all. Yeah, because 0:51:44.280 --> 0:51:47.080 one hundred thousand dollars doesn't mean anything to them. It's 0:51:47.120 --> 0:51:50.560 just like a whole situation I knew nothing about until 0:51:50.560 --> 0:51:53.320 this past. Like here, I would say, wow, Sid mentioned 0:51:53.360 --> 0:51:56.640 it and uh when we were all hanging out, so yeah, 0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:58.920 oh my god, I don't I didn't hear that. You 0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:01.399 get flown out and you get shit in and then 0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:03.160 you leave with a suitcase of cash. 0:52:03.360 --> 0:52:03.680 Fuck. 0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:06.040 But it's like I don't get the shit part either, 0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:07.719 Like I don't get why you can't just have sex 0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:10.640 nor more. Yeah, sex worker, that's pretty but okay. 0:52:10.400 --> 0:52:13.239 Yeah, it's like play role playing, do all kinds of 0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:16.239 crazy sex stuff, a sex swing, let's do toys, but like, 0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:18.520 fucking yeah, I don't get that. 0:52:18.640 --> 0:52:21.400 But well, because my thing is is it even a kink, 0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:23.160 Like is it a kink for them where they're like, oh, 0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:25.200 we're rich enough that we can pay people to do 0:52:25.239 --> 0:52:28.680 this fucked up shit or they're not even kinked by it. 0:52:28.719 --> 0:52:31.680 They're just like ah, they're like Leonardo DiCaprio and Django. 0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:35.520 You know, yes, yes, yes, great to know. Thank you 0:52:35.560 --> 0:52:42.680 for telling me about the blessings. Uh So basically, this 0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:45.280 woman's life is unraveling in front of our eyes. Her career, 0:52:45.320 --> 0:52:47.520 her endorsements are over. She's like, now I'm a tabloid 0:52:47.520 --> 0:52:49.880 headline the pole vault hooker, which I'm sure that the 0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:51.520 New York Post or the New York Ledger that they 0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:52.759 call it in the show would come up with a 0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:56.920 more like piffy, disgusting headline than the pole vault hooker. 0:52:56.960 --> 0:52:59.160 But she's like, there's no coming back from something like this, 0:52:59.520 --> 0:53:01.680 and so does this woman is hitting rock bottom Live 0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:03.600 is like, yes, but you can get justice for your 0:53:03.600 --> 0:53:04.839 assault by testifying. 0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:05.680 Guest Wheeler. 0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:09.759 Wait, I looked up bless her and it's what I said. 0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:11.880 I'm like, really, it's a. 0:53:11.560 --> 0:53:12.759 Oh that's like a full term. 0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:15.520 Yeah, it's slang, but it's one who blesses or one 0:53:15.520 --> 0:53:18.640 who bestows obviously, But in South Africa the slang is 0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:22.520 a rich man who offers support, typically financial material, to 0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:26.520 a younger female companion in exchange for sex, friendship, et cetera. 0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:29.840 Do you know what's interesting that in French bless a 0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:32.759 which a spell blesser is to hurt is the verb 0:53:33.120 --> 0:53:42.200 is to hurt whoa Yeah? Interesting, twisted, twisted entomology. Baby, 0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:47.360 I do love Olivia because like honestly like Olivia making 0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:50.880 her do the controlled meeting and stuff or like or 0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:53.479 you know, offering having the idea of the control meeting. 0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:55.480 That is kind of what blew everything up. And now 0:53:55.520 --> 0:53:58.359 this woman's whole career is like fucked. And they're like, yes, 0:53:58.400 --> 0:53:59.959 but we need to get you on that witness stand. 0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:02.960 Like sometimes you just see Olivia like stopping at nothing 0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:06.040 to get people on the stand, and you're like, I mean, 0:54:06.080 --> 0:54:07.440 I bet she would have still liked to have gone 0:54:07.440 --> 0:54:10.120 to the Olympics. Athletes work their entire lives for these 0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:10.840 kind of things. 0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:12.840 Okay, listen, I'm so sorry. 0:54:12.960 --> 0:54:17.759 I keep googling about the blessers, but the scat, porn 0:54:17.800 --> 0:54:20.920 and suicide inside the lives of sleigh queens in Dubai. 0:54:21.040 --> 0:54:23.160 Like, yeah, I'm obviously know when I'm doing the rest 0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:23.600 of the night. 0:54:24.280 --> 0:54:27.600 Most celebrities are paid forty K to eat poop in Dubai. 0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:31.799 Nigerian girl caught allegedly eating shit for money in Dubai. 0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:33.880 That's why I'm not going to Dubai. And then it 0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:39.239 says Andrew Schultz Dubai, Oh my god, because you're talking 0:54:39.239 --> 0:54:39.879 about the same thing. 0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:43.040 I guess we have a lot in comment. Oh my god, 0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:46.880 Malawi Malawi sligh queens that end up eating shit of 0:54:46.960 --> 0:54:51.560 men in Dubai. I must be tamed. We have to stop. 0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:54.120 I don't think I can stomach this any longer. 0:54:54.760 --> 0:54:56.719 Well, there's a whole well if you don't understand it, 0:54:56.719 --> 0:55:01.080 there's an article why Instagram influencers are letting wealthy men 0:55:01.120 --> 0:55:05.040 poop so in their mouths Oh, ten habits, and then 0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:07.480 the next thing says, ten habits that will get you 0:55:07.520 --> 0:55:09.000 ahead of ninety nine percent. 0:55:08.760 --> 0:55:11.040 Of people, improve your life. 0:55:12.400 --> 0:55:14.640 They're basically giving you Google search results, Like if you're 0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:17.200 considering being a person that gets blessed, they're like, here's 0:55:17.200 --> 0:55:22.600 some other ways, all right, So she agrees to testify. 0:55:23.120 --> 0:55:25.640 She wants this guy to suffer like she's suffering. So 0:55:25.680 --> 0:55:28.640 now we're outside of the courthouse. It's a new day, 0:55:28.680 --> 0:55:31.920 and these reporters, these local New York reporters. 0:55:31.480 --> 0:55:33.080 Are making their money, honey. 0:55:33.080 --> 0:55:36.920 They're delivering these wild storylines like Wall Street financier Michael 0:55:36.920 --> 0:55:39.520 Wheeler goes on trial today accused of raping world class 0:55:39.520 --> 0:55:42.520 poll of alter Jenna Miller. And then they're like Miller 0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:44.640 was the future face of tm USA until the rape 0:55:44.680 --> 0:55:47.879 investigation uncovered her secret life of prostitution, like it would 0:55:47.880 --> 0:55:51.160 be wild headlines the whole of alter or No. Jenna 0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:53.520 shows up and the press starts to hound her, but 0:55:53.560 --> 0:55:55.400 they're like, she's not taking questions at the moment. And 0:55:55.400 --> 0:55:59.000 then this reporter goes, is it true you were paid 0:55:59.040 --> 0:56:02.160 for rough sex? Which seems like a wild question from 0:56:02.160 --> 0:56:05.000 a journalist in a rape case, like to ask a 0:56:05.040 --> 0:56:07.880 person like is that true that that's like what your 0:56:07.920 --> 0:56:08.759 specialty was? 0:56:08.800 --> 0:56:12.160 Like, that seems so crazy. They might be from page six. Yeah, 0:56:12.200 --> 0:56:14.720 they're from the post. They're from the Ledger. 0:56:15.640 --> 0:56:18.919 And Barbara is like, okay, actually I will answer that one. 0:56:19.280 --> 0:56:21.160 And he says an iconic put it on a T 0:56:21.280 --> 0:56:24.080 shirt line. He goes, paid or not paid? No means 0:56:24.120 --> 0:56:27.480 no consent can be revoked at any time, and it's like, yes, 0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:29.759 let's get coffee mugs for every teen boy so that 0:56:29.800 --> 0:56:33.799 they know. And Jenna's like, the press used to love me, hypocrites. 0:56:34.280 --> 0:56:37.240 So on the stand, Olivia is testifying to Jenna's condition 0:56:37.320 --> 0:56:40.080 when she got to the hospital, and then Wheeler's lawyer 0:56:40.120 --> 0:56:41.839 gets up there and he's trying to paint Jenna as 0:56:41.840 --> 0:56:44.040 a liar, saying that her injuries could have been consistent 0:56:44.080 --> 0:56:46.759 with a sex worker having rough sex, and Live is like, 0:56:46.840 --> 0:56:49.640 in my opinion, no, And this scumbag lawyer is like, 0:56:49.840 --> 0:56:52.080 but you're a police officer and not a doctor, right, 0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:54.000 And it's like, how fucking dare you. She's like, I've 0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:56.640 been an SVU detective for seventeen years and he goes, 0:56:56.719 --> 0:56:59.960 so you're qualified to investigate rape cases, not evaluate medical injuries, 0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:02.680 and Live has this look as the camera like backs 0:57:02.680 --> 0:57:04.839 away from her. That's like, well, fuck my drag, right, Like, 0:57:04.880 --> 0:57:06.680 she has that look on her face and it's very 0:57:07.680 --> 0:57:10.239 you know, funny. And then next up, Jenna's on the 0:57:10.280 --> 0:57:13.799 stand and she's like, I wasn't exactly soliciting sex. I 0:57:13.880 --> 0:57:16.080 was at a bar having a few drinks. The defendant 0:57:16.080 --> 0:57:18.520 started flirting with me. It felt good. I like when 0:57:18.560 --> 0:57:21.000 men notice me. I'm very used to being an athlete 0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:23.520 and it's nice to be noticed as a woman Like 0:57:23.560 --> 0:57:26.439 I like the attention. And she's like, but I never 0:57:26.520 --> 0:57:28.400 told him he had to pay. He assumed that was 0:57:28.440 --> 0:57:30.080 the deal, and I kind of went along with it. 0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:32.880 So when they got a room they started having sex. 0:57:33.240 --> 0:57:35.800 He started getting rough, hitting her. She said no, she 0:57:35.800 --> 0:57:38.160 said to stop, and that made him even more aggressive. 0:57:38.440 --> 0:57:40.680 He started to do other things, like she specifically told 0:57:40.720 --> 0:57:42.480 him she didn't want to have any anal intercourse, and 0:57:42.520 --> 0:57:45.000 he started laughing and did it anyway, And when he 0:57:45.080 --> 0:57:47.600 was done, he threw money at her. She didn't take it. 0:57:47.640 --> 0:57:49.960 She was her and bleeding and she ran out. So 0:57:50.160 --> 0:57:52.439 she goes, I'm ashamed about what I did, but I'm 0:57:52.440 --> 0:57:54.320 not ashamed that I was raped. I want everyone to 0:57:54.360 --> 0:57:57.360 hear my story so that this fuck can't hurt anyone anymore. 0:57:57.840 --> 0:57:59.959 So the camera pans to him, and he is, of course, 0:58:00.200 --> 0:58:02.560 like so smug and gross, but you know he is 0:58:02.600 --> 0:58:06.120 Lisa's crush, so I will give him some respect. Wheeler's 0:58:06.240 --> 0:58:08.520 lawyer now tries to spin it that this is an 0:58:08.520 --> 0:58:12.680 elaborate publicity stunt, and it's like, I'm sorry that It's 0:58:12.680 --> 0:58:13.320 like they do. 0:58:13.400 --> 0:58:14.280 This all the time. 0:58:14.480 --> 0:58:17.720 Yeah, where they're like this rape allegation is for attention, 0:58:18.160 --> 0:58:22.560 Like what woman would want this to be their narrative 0:58:22.640 --> 0:58:24.760 and to be a way to get cred or anything. 0:58:24.800 --> 0:58:25.760 It's so insane. 0:58:26.480 --> 0:58:30.320 So this guy says, once Wheeler outed you as a 0:58:30.320 --> 0:58:34.120 sex worker, you made up the rape accusation, and she's like, yeah, 0:58:34.120 --> 0:58:36.560 I wouldn't want this kind of publicity. And they're like, 0:58:36.640 --> 0:58:38.960 he's like, well, everyone's talking about you, looking at your body. 0:58:39.000 --> 0:58:40.920 You said you like the attention. I mean, this lawyer 0:58:40.960 --> 0:58:43.840 is trash. He starts to really antagonize her about not 0:58:43.920 --> 0:58:47.600 making the team, how she'll be gasped thirty when Tokyo 0:58:47.680 --> 0:58:50.760 comes around and I didn't realize she was supposed to 0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:53.840 be twenty six right now. But he's like needling her 0:58:53.840 --> 0:58:56.960 about the Olympic committee rejecting her for her indiscretions. And 0:58:57.000 --> 0:58:59.240 then he's saying, your body's never going to look as 0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:02.480 good as it does right now, Barbara edjecs and Jenna's like, no, no, 0:59:02.560 --> 0:59:04.760 I want to answer my body's going to look great 0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:07.040 in four years, better because I work harder than you 0:59:07.040 --> 0:59:09.760 can even imagine. And the lawyer is like, yeah, but 0:59:09.840 --> 0:59:12.320 my client rejected you. He wasn't impressed and he said 0:59:12.360 --> 0:59:15.720 you were too muscular, too masculine. It's disgusting this like 0:59:15.760 --> 0:59:19.720 way he's spinning this. Jenna starts to fully unravel. She's like, 0:59:19.800 --> 0:59:22.080 he loved my body. Everyone loves my body. I am 0:59:22.120 --> 0:59:24.600 five nine, one hundred and twelve pounds. I can bench 0:59:24.640 --> 0:59:27.440 one fifty I squat two twenty five. She starts taking 0:59:27.480 --> 0:59:29.760 her shirt off to show everyone how snatch she is. 0:59:30.200 --> 0:59:32.640 That is a courtroom first here at SVU. I mean, 0:59:32.640 --> 0:59:35.800 we've seen people stand up with erections. We've seen people 0:59:35.880 --> 0:59:39.520 do a lot of things. You know, recently there was 0:59:39.560 --> 0:59:41.480 a case in real life where a guy dove over 0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:44.520 into the to the bench of the judge and that 0:59:44.640 --> 0:59:46.479 was wild. He just was back in court this week 0:59:46.520 --> 0:59:50.000 with like a full muzzle mask on, like they hannibal. 0:59:49.760 --> 0:59:52.520 Lectured him so he wouldn't do something again. Well, it's pretty. 0:59:52.280 --> 0:59:54.920 Funny because I obviously read the comments to rap me up. 0:59:54.920 --> 0:59:57.360 And people were like, but she shouldn't have spoken that rudely, 0:59:57.960 --> 1:00:03.000 like the mental gymnastic people do, like, yeah, did he 1:00:03.080 --> 1:00:06.000 not just prove he doesn't deserve bail? They're like, she should, 1:00:06.440 --> 1:00:08.560 She should have said it nicer. She didn't have to 1:00:08.600 --> 1:00:11.120 be so rude. She didn't have to do that. She 1:00:11.200 --> 1:00:13.040 could have explained it to him. She could have given 1:00:13.120 --> 1:00:16.680 him a shot like comment after a comment, and it's 1:00:16.720 --> 1:00:20.120 like you don't want him cage dutt. He leaped in 1:00:20.160 --> 1:00:23.400 the air, He defied physics. 1:00:22.600 --> 1:00:28.560 Gravity, He was Alpha ba. He flew in her face 1:00:30.080 --> 1:00:31.400 it was wild. 1:00:31.920 --> 1:00:34.520 Yeah, he gets Hannibal Lecter just to make sure no 1:00:34.520 --> 1:00:36.600 one else wants to pull that fucking shit, and he's 1:00:36.640 --> 1:00:37.560 gonna get more jailt out. 1:00:37.600 --> 1:00:37.960 You can't. 1:00:38.840 --> 1:00:43.520 But this happened during Larry Nasser, the gymnastics rapist. People 1:00:43.560 --> 1:00:46.080 were saying that the female judge was too mean to 1:00:46.160 --> 1:00:48.160 him and was too rude and said too mean of 1:00:48.200 --> 1:00:53.080 stuff to him. It's so fucked She didn't have to 1:00:53.120 --> 1:00:56.000 be so rude. All he did was rape dozens of 1:00:56.080 --> 1:00:59.840 children who were in his care over the course of decades. Like, 1:01:00.080 --> 1:01:02.560 oh my god, Oh my god, who are you allowed 1:01:02.560 --> 1:01:04.320 to be mean too these fucking people? I mean, that's 1:01:04.360 --> 1:01:07.560 what that's You're glad to be a woman, Yeah, yeah, 1:01:07.680 --> 1:01:08.200 yeah yeah. 1:01:08.240 --> 1:01:09.960 And it's because she's a woman judge. They wouldn't have 1:01:10.000 --> 1:01:12.000 said that about a male judge being like sir. How 1:01:12.000 --> 1:01:14.560 many male judges readings have we heard where they're like, 1:01:14.720 --> 1:01:16.840 you are the scum of the earth, you are despicable. 1:01:16.880 --> 1:01:18.440 I'm locking you away in a cage so you can 1:01:18.480 --> 1:01:20.680 never come out again. No one's ever like he should 1:01:20.720 --> 1:01:24.600 have been nicer, you know, he probably should have smiled 1:01:24.600 --> 1:01:28.200 when he said it. So anyway, this is wild, though, 1:01:28.240 --> 1:01:30.640 This scene is crazy. This woman's taking off her shirt. 1:01:30.720 --> 1:01:32.960 She's like, look how hot I am. Barbara takes off 1:01:32.960 --> 1:01:35.440 his jacket immediately goes to cover her up. He's begging 1:01:35.480 --> 1:01:38.440 the judge for a recess and she's insisting my body 1:01:38.480 --> 1:01:42.120 is perfect. I'm perfect, I'm perfect. So it's there's some 1:01:42.240 --> 1:01:46.480 issues going on here. So now it's nighttime. We're at 1:01:46.560 --> 1:01:50.000 a track where Chad is training Jenna. He's just screaming 1:01:50.120 --> 1:01:52.480 orders at a rape victim in the aftermath of a 1:01:52.560 --> 1:01:55.160 traumatic day in court, which is totally normal and healthy. 1:01:55.200 --> 1:01:57.520 He's like, high your knees, faster, faster. 1:01:57.600 --> 1:01:59.160 I'm like, maybe you guys take like a day or 1:01:59.200 --> 1:02:02.640 two off training, Like it's he the husband's not a 1:02:02.640 --> 1:02:03.280 good guy here. 1:02:03.560 --> 1:02:05.560 No days off, Karen, no days off? 1:02:05.720 --> 1:02:09.960 Yeah, yeah, really, Rollin's and Caresy walk up and this 1:02:10.040 --> 1:02:12.440 is an unauthorized mission, Like they haven't told liv that 1:02:12.480 --> 1:02:14.840 they're going there to talk to Jenna, Like it's they're 1:02:14.960 --> 1:02:17.880 kind of off the grid here, and Chad's like, get 1:02:17.920 --> 1:02:19.600 out of here. We've had enough with the police and 1:02:19.640 --> 1:02:22.760 the DAS. And Jenna's like I'm fine, I'm out here. 1:02:22.800 --> 1:02:24.800 I'm energized. I could go all night and she is 1:02:24.920 --> 1:02:27.600 clearly manic, and Rollins is like, have you ever talked 1:02:27.640 --> 1:02:29.320 to a psychiatrist about your behavior? 1:02:29.560 --> 1:02:30.760 And the husband is like, get out of here. 1:02:30.800 --> 1:02:32.840 She needs to train and focus, and he starts laying 1:02:32.840 --> 1:02:35.200 it on thick to Jenna, like making it all about him, 1:02:35.200 --> 1:02:36.400 like do you know how hard it has been for 1:02:36.560 --> 1:02:39.520 me to deal with your behavior, your mood swings, your 1:02:39.560 --> 1:02:42.440 wild nights in the city. And then Jenna starts laughing 1:02:42.480 --> 1:02:45.880 maniacally and Chad is like, obviously, I know she has 1:02:45.920 --> 1:02:47.840 a mental health issue, but I know she can still 1:02:47.840 --> 1:02:50.040 win gold, and he calls it protecting her. But this 1:02:50.120 --> 1:02:52.800 man is exploiting and using her, just like probably a 1:02:52.840 --> 1:02:54.560 million people have already. 1:02:54.760 --> 1:02:55.960 Jenna realizes in this moment. 1:02:55.960 --> 1:02:58.280 She goes, oh, you guys all think I'm crazy, but 1:02:58.400 --> 1:03:01.960 like her eyes are bulging and she is wildly swinging 1:03:02.000 --> 1:03:05.360 from laughing to being upset, so something is not good. 1:03:05.400 --> 1:03:07.920 And Curtesy's like, no, you have a mental illness, and 1:03:08.040 --> 1:03:09.160 Rollins is like, you just need. 1:03:09.040 --> 1:03:10.120 To go talk to a doctor. 1:03:10.600 --> 1:03:13.040 Chad glares at them as if it's like the CoP's 1:03:13.040 --> 1:03:15.439 fault that she has an untreated mental illness that he's 1:03:15.480 --> 1:03:18.640 ignoring as well. So now we're back in court. We've 1:03:18.680 --> 1:03:21.640 got a lovely psychiatrist on the stand. I really like 1:03:21.680 --> 1:03:25.080 her tone. She seems very professional, and she's testifying that 1:03:25.160 --> 1:03:29.120 Jenna suffers from bipolar disorder, a medical condition caused by 1:03:29.120 --> 1:03:32.400 a neurochemical imbalance. It's a lifelong and curable illness that 1:03:32.440 --> 1:03:35.080 can be controlled with medication, and it you know, symptoms 1:03:35.120 --> 1:03:38.280 include moodswing's, mannic phases, depressed phases, and. 1:03:38.160 --> 1:03:39.760 That she's a professional athlete. 1:03:39.800 --> 1:03:43.200 Her culture is competition, victory, winning at all costs. So 1:03:43.240 --> 1:03:46.480 Barba says she might try to say, win an argument 1:03:46.520 --> 1:03:49.440 with a defense attorney and the doctor says, yeah, she 1:03:49.520 --> 1:03:52.240 was experiencing mania. She wouldn't take no for an answer. 1:03:52.320 --> 1:03:54.040 She might even take her shirt off to prove that 1:03:54.040 --> 1:03:56.840 her body is beautiful. You know, Barbara's trying to cover 1:03:56.960 --> 1:03:59.440 up what the jury has seen in the last day 1:03:59.440 --> 1:04:03.000 of testimony. And so now the defense attorney spins it that, Oh, 1:04:03.040 --> 1:04:05.760 but isn't it also possible that if she's that competitive 1:04:05.800 --> 1:04:08.320 and the and manic, that she would distort the truth 1:04:08.400 --> 1:04:10.760 in one of her manic phases to support winning at 1:04:10.800 --> 1:04:14.000 all costs. Couldn't somebody even invent a rape charge after 1:04:14.080 --> 1:04:19.280 feeling rejected, and she's like, it's possible, but it's not likely. 1:04:19.360 --> 1:04:21.600 It's more likely that, you know, people with this condition 1:04:21.640 --> 1:04:25.920 would justify a non consensual sex as consensual to make 1:04:25.960 --> 1:04:28.880 themselves better, more potent, and powerful. So it's more likely 1:04:28.920 --> 1:04:31.200 that she would have been the attacker in a situation 1:04:31.320 --> 1:04:33.720 I guess is what this woman is saying. And the judge, 1:04:33.760 --> 1:04:36.440 who is Amy Brabston, who is the late Great Andre 1:04:36.520 --> 1:04:40.560 Brower's wife, she allows for Jenna to testify fully medicated 1:04:40.600 --> 1:04:43.480 the next day because Barba, like the asshole's lawyer, tries 1:04:43.520 --> 1:04:45.919 to argue, we've already heard from her, and Barba's like, yeah, 1:04:45.920 --> 1:04:48.240 but now she's on medication and she's lucid, and like, 1:04:48.320 --> 1:04:51.240 let's get her back on and so in the next scene, 1:04:51.640 --> 1:04:55.120 Barba tells everybody that Wheeler's lawyer actually got nervous about 1:04:55.120 --> 1:04:56.920 hearing from Jenna again on the stand, and so he 1:04:56.960 --> 1:04:58.000 wants to plead out. 1:04:58.240 --> 1:05:00.040 They're going to go for assault. 1:04:59.600 --> 1:05:03.440 Too, which is no registry, but it is a defelony 1:05:03.480 --> 1:05:05.080 and he'll get two to five years in jail. 1:05:06.280 --> 1:05:08.800 I don't know, would I rather jail time or would 1:05:08.800 --> 1:05:11.160 I've rather the person to be on the registry forever, 1:05:11.840 --> 1:05:15.080 I know, but it shows how big it is to 1:05:15.080 --> 1:05:15.840 be on the registry. 1:05:15.840 --> 1:05:17.960 If he's willing to plea for three to five years. 1:05:18.760 --> 1:05:20.960 Well, the thing I was thinking about this too, is 1:05:21.000 --> 1:05:24.360 like hopefully also being a de felon could affect his 1:05:24.440 --> 1:05:27.400 standing up, like doing finance and stuff, and like he 1:05:27.400 --> 1:05:30.080 wouldn't have access to the money that he has, and 1:05:30.120 --> 1:05:32.000 that like two to five years in jail, I'm sure 1:05:32.040 --> 1:05:33.880 he'll The thing is is a guy like this in 1:05:33.920 --> 1:05:35.880 real life would just appeal, appeal, appeal until. 1:05:35.680 --> 1:05:36.120 It went away. 1:05:36.640 --> 1:05:39.760 But in this case, like being on the registry might 1:05:39.800 --> 1:05:41.800 not stop a guy like this if he's still allowed 1:05:41.800 --> 1:05:43.280 to have access to money, but. 1:05:43.280 --> 1:05:44.440 I don't know if it would affect his job. 1:05:44.480 --> 1:05:46.919 So yeah, it's a real it's a real shitty six 1:05:47.000 --> 1:05:49.560 of one, half dozen of another. But so Jenna's like, wait, 1:05:49.600 --> 1:05:51.960 so it's all over, And Barbara's like, if we go 1:05:52.000 --> 1:05:54.280 to the jury, he could be acquitted, and Chad's like, 1:05:54.800 --> 1:05:56.480 we just need to get on with our lives, and 1:05:56.560 --> 1:05:59.320 Jenna's like I agree, So they take the deal. Jenna 1:05:59.360 --> 1:06:01.880 thanks the detect stims who blew up her life. She's like, 1:06:02.320 --> 1:06:05.720 I'm on meds. I'm starting therapy. I'm putting Tokyo aside 1:06:05.760 --> 1:06:07.920 for right now. I've got to get better at life 1:06:07.960 --> 1:06:10.800 and not just at sports. So now we cut to 1:06:10.840 --> 1:06:13.280 a TV interview where Jenna is admitting that she started 1:06:13.320 --> 1:06:16.440 pull vaulting to quiet the voices in her head and 1:06:16.480 --> 1:06:20.280 that she was acting out sexually and you know, drinking, 1:06:20.360 --> 1:06:23.760 engaging in risky behavior, and so everyone at the gang 1:06:23.800 --> 1:06:26.600 is watching at the precinct and Live tells Rollins, you know, 1:06:26.640 --> 1:06:28.440 you really did write by Jenna, but she's like, but 1:06:28.520 --> 1:06:30.400 next time, you better tell me before you talk to 1:06:30.400 --> 1:06:33.680 a victim about her testimony. So you know, Rollins is 1:06:33.720 --> 1:06:36.800 not getting away with anything under Olivia Benson's watch, and 1:06:36.880 --> 1:06:40.280 maybe Jenna will end up getting like I'm sure she'll 1:06:40.280 --> 1:06:42.320 write a book. I'm sure that they'll be TV deal 1:06:42.880 --> 1:06:45.840 about this about like an athlete who's secretly a sex worker. 1:06:45.960 --> 1:06:48.439 You know, she'll hopefully make money and you know, maybe 1:06:48.480 --> 1:06:49.320 she can coach too. 1:06:49.760 --> 1:06:50.600 So at home. 1:06:50.680 --> 1:06:54.080 Now the episode ends with Rollins at home. She opens 1:06:54.080 --> 1:06:55.800 the door. Jesse's just in the middle of the living 1:06:55.880 --> 1:06:58.200 room in her pack and play, and Kim's in the 1:06:58.200 --> 1:07:00.439 bathroom and she's like, oh, I let the sitter because 1:07:00.480 --> 1:07:03.160 her boyfriend got into a car accident, and then Amanda, 1:07:03.400 --> 1:07:06.560 like immediately obviously suspicious, busts into the bathroom and Kim 1:07:06.640 --> 1:07:10.200 is holding a pill bottle. Amanda goes into an investigative spiral, 1:07:10.280 --> 1:07:13.439 what are you on oxy adderall like, she starts checking 1:07:13.480 --> 1:07:16.800 all the bottles. She goes, it's lithium, it's a prescription, 1:07:17.080 --> 1:07:19.240 it's legal, like, it's a signed to me. She got 1:07:19.320 --> 1:07:23.640 a psychiatric evaluation when she was first trying to mount 1:07:23.680 --> 1:07:27.240 her defense with with mister Dsapio, the lawyer, that she's 1:07:27.280 --> 1:07:30.880 fucking and she goes and when I got the psychiatric evaluation, 1:07:31.240 --> 1:07:32.760 I was diagnosed with bipolar. 1:07:32.800 --> 1:07:34.040 I've been on meds for a year. 1:07:34.520 --> 1:07:37.840 So classic SVU where something in the detective's life is 1:07:37.880 --> 1:07:40.120 mirroring something that's happening in the episode. 1:07:40.360 --> 1:07:41.960 And she says, you. 1:07:41.920 --> 1:07:44.040 Know, sometimes I miss the manic energy, but I feel 1:07:44.040 --> 1:07:46.000 really good about myself for the first time in my life. 1:07:46.600 --> 1:07:49.680 And Amanda's like really taken aback, and she's like, you 1:07:49.680 --> 1:07:53.320 didn't tell me, And Kim's like, Amanda, you didn't ask, 1:07:53.600 --> 1:07:54.760 and that's. 1:07:54.560 --> 1:07:55.520 Dick wolf baby. 1:07:56.360 --> 1:07:59.960 So this seems like it's like a good news, fresh 1:08:00.080 --> 1:08:06.400 start for Kim and Amanda, but unfortunately Kim later has 1:08:06.640 --> 1:08:10.800 more issues with like you know, being addicted to pain 1:08:10.920 --> 1:08:13.400 killers and stuff that goes on with like the dad, 1:08:13.520 --> 1:08:16.800 and like Kim goes back to prison eventually, but we'll 1:08:16.920 --> 1:08:21.679 cover that at a future date. But this episode is wild, 1:08:21.720 --> 1:08:24.519 and I'm interested to hear what it's based on, because, 1:08:25.200 --> 1:08:28.280 I mean, mental health stuff is so tough. But then 1:08:28.360 --> 1:08:31.599 also to have like the athlete part of it, like 1:08:31.920 --> 1:08:36.320 layered on top, feels very tough to untangle. But Lisa, 1:08:36.520 --> 1:08:38.280 as soon as we're back with a few messages from 1:08:38.280 --> 1:08:40.120 our sponsors, I can't wait for you to tell me 1:08:40.160 --> 1:08:40.679 about it. 1:08:40.720 --> 1:08:41.080 Thanks. 1:08:44.720 --> 1:08:50.679 So today's episode is based on Susie Favor Hamilton, and 1:08:50.840 --> 1:08:54.760 she's a runner originally from Steven's Point, Wisconsin, a Midwest 1:08:54.760 --> 1:08:59.000 bitch thrilled. She's she was an American middle distance runner 1:08:59.520 --> 1:09:02.320 and she went to run at the University of Wisconsin, 1:09:02.360 --> 1:09:08.160 where she won nine NCAA championships and twenty three Big 1:09:08.200 --> 1:09:12.280 Ten titles, so really accomplished. And then during her senior 1:09:12.360 --> 1:09:15.919 year she signed a six figure, five year contract with Reebok, 1:09:16.520 --> 1:09:18.840 which is really cool because I know there's always debate 1:09:18.880 --> 1:09:21.559 about like shit athletes get paid or whatnot. And I believe, 1:09:21.760 --> 1:09:24.920 I hardcore believe they should get paid. But anyway, so cool, 1:09:24.960 --> 1:09:28.400 she got that deal. She married her husband Mark right 1:09:28.439 --> 1:09:32.000 after she graduated college, like immediately, and she was ranked 1:09:32.080 --> 1:09:34.880 number one in the US at the fifteen hundred meter 1:09:35.040 --> 1:09:38.320 in eighty nine slash ninety year and also again in 1:09:38.320 --> 1:09:41.679 two thousand and two. Because even when you said, like thirty, 1:09:41.720 --> 1:09:45.760 oh oh, but for most sports that is older, and 1:09:45.800 --> 1:09:48.200 so to be able to be number one in ninety 1:09:48.240 --> 1:09:50.479 and in two thousand is like pretty fucking cool. 1:09:51.520 --> 1:09:52.320 Yeah. 1:09:52.479 --> 1:09:55.320 Yeah, I guess I just thought like there are some 1:09:55.600 --> 1:09:57.720 I mean, I don't know, like Serena first of. 1:09:57.720 --> 1:10:00.320 All, yes, there are a handful. 1:10:00.439 --> 1:10:03.880 Has been back, like some Yeah, like who's coming back 1:10:03.880 --> 1:10:06.920 this year to the isn't Simone Bile's going to be back? 1:10:07.600 --> 1:10:09.920 She is a young woman, I know, But how old 1:10:09.960 --> 1:10:11.800 is she? Oh she's twenty six now, but when's the 1:10:11.840 --> 1:10:12.560 next Olympics. 1:10:13.320 --> 1:10:16.479 No, there's also there's like a swimmer who's an and 1:10:16.560 --> 1:10:19.120 a gymnast who's done it into their forties. I'm not 1:10:19.160 --> 1:10:21.840 saying it is nonexistent. It is very rare. 1:10:21.960 --> 1:10:24.400 No, no, no, I agree, But I thought for some 1:10:24.680 --> 1:10:28.919 reason that for track and stuff, that they're. 1:10:28.800 --> 1:10:31.519 That people have been older. I do. I do agree. 1:10:31.560 --> 1:10:34.280 Gymnastics like has to do so much with like they're 1:10:34.320 --> 1:10:37.200 all so tiny people. For shot put you can aid yea. 1:10:37.880 --> 1:10:40.680 So maybe for biathlon where you ski and shoot off 1:10:40.680 --> 1:10:43.439 a fucking gun, then you can then you can be fifty. 1:10:43.880 --> 1:10:47.280 Yeah, bowling well, because I mean I think that's why. 1:10:47.600 --> 1:10:50.679 I mean, there's dozens of reasons why, but I think 1:10:50.760 --> 1:10:53.760 that's like an added reason why Lebron James is incredible 1:10:54.120 --> 1:10:57.639 because there's memes right now where when he started playing, 1:10:57.920 --> 1:11:00.240 like in the league, he had a flip phone and 1:11:00.280 --> 1:11:04.519 a CD, a portable CD player with headphones. That is 1:11:04.520 --> 1:11:06.920 how Lebron James entered his career. 1:11:09.640 --> 1:11:10.280 You know what I mean? 1:11:10.360 --> 1:11:14.680 He is like he is the coach that was the funniest, Say, 1:11:14.720 --> 1:11:16.960 the coach of one of the teams now is younger 1:11:17.000 --> 1:11:17.599 than Lebron. 1:11:18.560 --> 1:11:20.240 Wow, and this motherfucker is. 1:11:20.200 --> 1:11:23.439 Still dunking and you know, dozens and dozens of points 1:11:23.439 --> 1:11:26.040 a season, like he's not he is playing against twenty 1:11:26.080 --> 1:11:26.799 two year olds. 1:11:27.520 --> 1:11:30.640 Yeah, it's incredible. Yeah. 1:11:30.680 --> 1:11:34.919 But anyways, so being an athlete is hard. She competed 1:11:34.960 --> 1:11:38.400 in three Olympics and she really wanted to medal in 1:11:38.439 --> 1:11:41.160 Sydney in two thousand, but she did not get it 1:11:41.240 --> 1:11:44.040 because on the final lap she was passed by several 1:11:44.120 --> 1:11:47.600 runners and then she fell. Later, she admitted that she 1:11:47.680 --> 1:11:50.240 fell on purpose after she felt like she had let 1:11:50.600 --> 1:11:53.360 her family down in her friends and her brother had 1:11:53.400 --> 1:11:55.400 passed and he was like run. She was running for 1:11:55.479 --> 1:11:58.640 his memory, and her friend was sick with cancer, and 1:11:58.680 --> 1:12:02.439 she was just like running forever everybody. And once it 1:12:02.520 --> 1:12:05.960 hit her that she wasn't gonna win, the like shame thing, 1:12:06.000 --> 1:12:08.720 and she fucking she faked a fall. 1:12:08.720 --> 1:12:09.600 At the Olympics. 1:12:10.320 --> 1:12:13.799 ABC News quoted her saying, I came around the final 1:12:13.840 --> 1:12:16.200 corner and five girls passed me and the dream of 1:12:16.240 --> 1:12:19.080 having an Olympic medal was gone. And instead of finishing 1:12:19.080 --> 1:12:21.559 the race like most runners would, I told myself just 1:12:21.640 --> 1:12:24.800 fall and I fell immediately, and that was the moment 1:12:24.840 --> 1:12:26.960 on my downward spiral. I didn't know at the time, 1:12:26.960 --> 1:12:28.880 but that was one of the terrible things to happen. 1:12:29.840 --> 1:12:32.240 She was like, damn, I'm the worst person in the world. 1:12:32.280 --> 1:12:34.120 Look what I did. And her self worth was just 1:12:34.160 --> 1:12:36.400 on the floor, and she had tons of mood swings 1:12:36.400 --> 1:12:37.320 and she didn't know what to do. 1:12:37.400 --> 1:12:39.000 But she's like, you know what, two thousand and four, 1:12:39.080 --> 1:12:39.680 let's do it. 1:12:40.439 --> 1:12:43.040 But then she began to suffer with depression and consider 1:12:43.120 --> 1:12:45.760 taking her own life, which led her to retire right 1:12:45.840 --> 1:12:49.920 before the Athens Olympics. And so, like any very attractive 1:12:49.960 --> 1:12:52.840 woman whose plan A does not work, she did become 1:12:52.840 --> 1:12:56.400 a real term But also she started doing motivational speeches 1:12:56.439 --> 1:12:59.240 and raising her young girl. Yes, she had a daughter, 1:12:59.520 --> 1:13:02.040 her name was Kylie. And then you know her husband, 1:13:02.080 --> 1:13:05.160 Mark Hamilton, not the one that you're thinking. So that's 1:13:05.200 --> 1:13:08.120 when he began to notice his wife was like getting angry, 1:13:08.240 --> 1:13:12.040 irrational and had an unhealthy attachment to their daughter, like 1:13:12.160 --> 1:13:14.960 refusing to put her down. And this is where she 1:13:15.040 --> 1:13:18.360 was put on antidepressants, which made her feel really good. 1:13:18.400 --> 1:13:22.719 And she's like, oh no, I felt real good, amazingly good. 1:13:23.120 --> 1:13:24.680 So yeah, she was just like on a high with 1:13:24.720 --> 1:13:27.559 these antidepressants. But at the same time, her marriage to 1:13:27.600 --> 1:13:30.200 Mark was having a hard moment. So she's like, hey, 1:13:30.400 --> 1:13:33.880 let's go to fucking Vegas, baby. So Kara's on board. 1:13:34.360 --> 1:13:37.400 So she was like, let's work on her marriage. It's 1:13:37.439 --> 1:13:40.559 our wedding anniversary, it's twenty eleven, let's spice things up. 1:13:40.960 --> 1:13:43.360 So on the trip, they ended up having a threesome. 1:13:43.479 --> 1:13:46.240 They went skydiving, and it just made her mania feel 1:13:46.320 --> 1:13:48.599 very intense. But she was like, oh my god, I'm 1:13:48.600 --> 1:13:50.559 living my life to the fullest. I'm obsessed with this. 1:13:50.640 --> 1:13:52.400 So then when she got home, she was miserable from 1:13:52.400 --> 1:13:54.880 the trip. She hated her real estate job. She was 1:13:54.920 --> 1:13:57.479 craving Vegas. She asked to go back to Vegas alone. 1:13:57.760 --> 1:13:59.960 Her husband was down and was like, yeah, whatever, you need, 1:14:00.120 --> 1:14:02.160 go back to Vegas. While in Vegas, she hired a 1:14:02.160 --> 1:14:06.080 male escort and she loved it and it was the 1:14:06.120 --> 1:14:08.960 only other man she'd ever have had sex with outside 1:14:08.960 --> 1:14:10.800 of her husband, and it hit her like, wait, I 1:14:10.840 --> 1:14:13.439 want to fuck more people. And she was like, and 1:14:13.479 --> 1:14:16.400 if this guy can make money selling sex, I can too. 1:14:16.560 --> 1:14:20.080 I'm fucking hot. And so Mark did know she he 1:14:20.240 --> 1:14:22.040 was in the No, it was not a secret to him. 1:14:22.040 --> 1:14:26.479 Like in the episode, Mark knew it bothered him. He 1:14:26.600 --> 1:14:30.400 raised his objections, but she just she wanted to do it, 1:14:30.439 --> 1:14:32.320 and he knew she was going to do it anyways. 1:14:32.600 --> 1:14:35.200 So Susie called Jamie Rodman, who was the owner of 1:14:35.240 --> 1:14:38.479 the escort firm, and she began working as Kelly Lundy, 1:14:38.960 --> 1:14:41.720 Yes Lundy I wonder if she's related to what was 1:14:41.760 --> 1:14:45.880 the guy? What's Lundy's first name in Dexter? Do you remember, Oh, 1:14:45.960 --> 1:14:47.400 Frank Lundy, isn't it Frank? 1:14:47.520 --> 1:14:47.880 Okay? 1:14:48.280 --> 1:14:51.240 Yeah, So she got an amazing high from the first 1:14:51.320 --> 1:14:53.320 night someone paid her for sex, but it. 1:14:53.200 --> 1:14:55.360 Became uncontrollable and she just wanted more and more. 1:14:55.600 --> 1:14:58.639 So she was working as an escort as Kelly Lundy, 1:14:58.920 --> 1:15:01.240 but then also was a piece hearing as Susie Favor 1:15:01.280 --> 1:15:03.920 Hamilton the track Star. It was a full Hannah Montana 1:15:03.960 --> 1:15:04.919 double life situation. 1:15:05.479 --> 1:15:05.799 Legit. 1:15:05.880 --> 1:15:09.000 One day she ran a half marathon in the morning 1:15:09.040 --> 1:15:11.519 in a different state, hopped on an airplane, got to 1:15:11.600 --> 1:15:13.160 Vegas and had five appointments. 1:15:13.320 --> 1:15:14.120 Oh my god. 1:15:14.280 --> 1:15:17.519 She was living life to the edge physical peak. 1:15:17.640 --> 1:15:18.240 I would say. 1:15:18.840 --> 1:15:21.679 At one point she was among the highest ranked escorts 1:15:21.720 --> 1:15:24.400 in Las Vegas, according to the escort rating website The 1:15:24.439 --> 1:15:27.200 Erotic Review. I mean, once you're an athlete, you're just 1:15:27.280 --> 1:15:28.639 like competitive forever, I think. 1:15:28.960 --> 1:15:29.280 Yeah. 1:15:29.320 --> 1:15:33.080 And so Susie had been a Vegas escort for about 1:15:33.080 --> 1:15:36.400 ten months when her secret identity was revealed. So she 1:15:36.479 --> 1:15:38.840 was in Vegas and someone called her Susie, and she 1:15:38.880 --> 1:15:41.000 thought it was just like another runner or someone, and 1:15:41.160 --> 1:15:45.280 it actually was an investigative journalist named William Bethstone who 1:15:45.320 --> 1:15:47.880 was a co founder of the smokinggun dot com Wow. 1:15:48.280 --> 1:15:51.240 So in twenty twelve, it came out that Favor Hamilton 1:15:51.320 --> 1:15:53.719 had worked as a high priced call girl in Vegas 1:15:53.760 --> 1:15:56.599 and Chicago, Houston other cities. She really was a hip 1:15:57.000 --> 1:15:59.960 Favor Hamilton said that after the reveal, she considered take 1:16:00.200 --> 1:16:02.560 her own life and ended up admitted to the hospital 1:16:02.920 --> 1:16:05.439 heavily medicated for about two weeks, and it ended up 1:16:05.479 --> 1:16:09.360 being a turning point for her. She also was quickly 1:16:09.439 --> 1:16:12.920 dropped as an endorser. She lost money from Disney foot Locker, 1:16:13.120 --> 1:16:16.719 the Rock and Roll Marathon series, and the Wisconsin Potato 1:16:16.800 --> 1:16:18.680 and Vegetable Growers Association. 1:16:19.040 --> 1:16:24.760 No, that's got a hit hard. That's home, you know. Yeah. 1:16:25.000 --> 1:16:27.920 She was always very attractive, like I keep saying, and 1:16:28.520 --> 1:16:31.280 she was making bank during her running days and now 1:16:31.360 --> 1:16:34.360 her escort time, so like she was always making money. 1:16:34.400 --> 1:16:36.240 And it was kind of the Anna Kornikova of it all. 1:16:36.320 --> 1:16:38.920 Like she wasn't even the fastest, but she was hot. 1:16:38.960 --> 1:16:41.120 So she's made money, like more money than like the 1:16:41.160 --> 1:16:43.840 other runners that were better than her. For escorting, she 1:16:43.920 --> 1:16:47.280 charged six hundred dollars an hour or six thousand dollars 1:16:47.320 --> 1:16:51.040 for twenty four hours. So, like I said, the Smoking 1:16:51.040 --> 1:16:53.559 Gun was the first to publish about her double life 1:16:53.560 --> 1:16:56.920 December twentieth, in twenty twelve, and she quickly admitted it 1:16:56.960 --> 1:16:59.479 on Twitter and was not hiding it or denying it 1:16:59.479 --> 1:17:02.600 in any way. The Smoking Gun reveal came within a 1:17:02.680 --> 1:17:05.120 year of telling one of her clients her real identity. 1:17:05.200 --> 1:17:07.759 So at first it was an accident, like she didn't 1:17:07.800 --> 1:17:10.599 know she had to be careful with information. Yeah, she's 1:17:10.680 --> 1:17:13.160 not a working girl for a long time, so she 1:17:13.280 --> 1:17:15.640 was new to it, and so she didn't realize she 1:17:15.640 --> 1:17:19.040 shouldn't tell people she's from Wisconsin, you know, or what 1:17:19.160 --> 1:17:22.000 she's into, like you don't want to share any information, 1:17:22.160 --> 1:17:25.360 but she accidentally did and then she let it slip 1:17:25.560 --> 1:17:28.479 that like she ran in college. And then on accident, 1:17:28.560 --> 1:17:31.559 she said the name Susie to her client Bob, and 1:17:31.600 --> 1:17:33.200 then one day he came to her and was like, 1:17:33.240 --> 1:17:36.360 I know who you are. You'r Susie favorite Hamilton, and 1:17:36.479 --> 1:17:38.640 you live in Wisconsin and I know it. And so 1:17:38.720 --> 1:17:42.240 that happened, according to Sports Illustrated, and he promised he 1:17:42.240 --> 1:17:46.000 wouldn't tell anybody. But then she became like she became 1:17:46.040 --> 1:17:48.320 into the thrill of letting people know who she was. 1:17:48.920 --> 1:17:51.559 So then she started being a little more loose with 1:17:51.600 --> 1:17:54.280 the information, but thinking these people would never betray her, 1:17:54.360 --> 1:17:56.880 even though they probably are betraying their wives and families. 1:17:56.920 --> 1:18:02.439 So yeah, to ABC News via twenty twenty, she said, 1:18:02.439 --> 1:18:04.960 it wasn't me, it was the disease. So she had 1:18:05.000 --> 1:18:07.639 been misdiagnosed, and this ties in really. 1:18:07.439 --> 1:18:08.120 Well with episodes. 1:18:08.120 --> 1:18:10.240 So she was misdiagnosed and put on the wrong medication 1:18:10.640 --> 1:18:14.080 which made her symptoms worse. So again, according to twenty twenty, 1:18:14.160 --> 1:18:15.680 she said, I know for a matter of fact, I 1:18:15.720 --> 1:18:17.680 would never have become an escort if I wasn't on 1:18:17.720 --> 1:18:19.400 the drug that made me hyper sexual. 1:18:19.479 --> 1:18:20.639 There's no way possible. 1:18:20.960 --> 1:18:23.360 But I also know that I was having sex for money, 1:18:23.439 --> 1:18:26.400 So when I say it was the bipolar's fault, I'm 1:18:26.439 --> 1:18:29.479 not pinning it on bipolar and looking that it was 1:18:29.520 --> 1:18:33.720 an excuse. So she knows it was her, but she 1:18:33.880 --> 1:18:37.240 was dealing with untreated bipolar. Yeah, and then when the 1:18:37.280 --> 1:18:40.200 story came out, there was obviously tons of attention, way 1:18:40.240 --> 1:18:42.519 too much attention, and it was too much, and she 1:18:42.560 --> 1:18:45.160 actually tried to fling herself from a moving car that 1:18:45.240 --> 1:18:47.280 her husband was driving, and that was the final straw 1:18:47.320 --> 1:18:49.840 for her husband and he called the family doctor, so 1:18:49.880 --> 1:18:52.800 she finally was diagnosed with bipolar. So there was a 1:18:52.840 --> 1:18:57.599 doctor Claudia Reardon, who explains that often bipolar patients are 1:18:57.600 --> 1:19:02.760 given antidepressants and it can have catastrophic results. So many 1:19:02.760 --> 1:19:07.280 people go undiagnosed or misdiagnosed for years and don't understand why. 1:19:07.280 --> 1:19:11.479 They have volatile relationships, poor boundaries, unpredictable reactions to events, 1:19:11.560 --> 1:19:16.080 and a dissatisfaction with themselves. Susan Heitler, a Denver based 1:19:16.080 --> 1:19:19.760 clinical psychologist, says that people with bipolar disorder feel like 1:19:19.800 --> 1:19:23.240 they can do anything and they lose contact with standard 1:19:23.280 --> 1:19:27.080 rules of behavior. That goes back to the episode with her, 1:19:27.120 --> 1:19:29.760 like trying to apartment jump in the city of New 1:19:29.880 --> 1:19:32.880 York and stuff like that. Reardan says, in someone with 1:19:32.920 --> 1:19:36.559 bipolar disorder, if you give them an antidepressant, it lifts 1:19:36.600 --> 1:19:38.519 their mood, but they don't have as much of us 1:19:38.520 --> 1:19:41.000 ceiling on their mood, so it can push their mood 1:19:41.080 --> 1:19:45.600 too high and we often see symptoms such as hypersexuality, 1:19:46.000 --> 1:19:49.160 spending lots of money, engaging in lots of reckless kinds 1:19:49.160 --> 1:19:52.760 of behaviors because people generally aren't in the state of 1:19:52.800 --> 1:19:56.000 mind to think through ahead, so the consequences of those 1:19:56.080 --> 1:19:59.439 kinds of behaviors, and she said that to ABC News. 1:20:00.000 --> 1:20:03.360 The diagnosis hit even harder because her brother suffered from it, 1:20:03.520 --> 1:20:05.960 like the same mental illness, and he took his own life, 1:20:06.000 --> 1:20:10.040 and it was like really shocking. So but it gave 1:20:10.120 --> 1:20:13.000 her kind of peace because she realized where all her behavior, 1:20:13.120 --> 1:20:15.840 like her behaviors made sense, and things just started falling 1:20:15.880 --> 1:20:19.800 into place. In retrospect looking back, she's like, oh my god, 1:20:19.840 --> 1:20:22.559 my actions were clearly out of character, and it's so 1:20:22.640 --> 1:20:24.800 easy to look back and understand, but at the time 1:20:24.840 --> 1:20:27.400 it just wasn't as clear, and it's taken her years 1:20:27.439 --> 1:20:30.680 to move forward. She still struggles between like what was 1:20:30.720 --> 1:20:33.040 her mental illness and what she did herself. 1:20:34.120 --> 1:20:35.519 She's no longer married to Mark. 1:20:35.600 --> 1:20:38.080 They had a covid era divorce, so that was finalized 1:20:38.160 --> 1:20:41.080 January twenty ninth, twenty twenty one. She did write a 1:20:41.120 --> 1:20:44.280 New York Times best selling memoir called Fast Girl, A 1:20:44.320 --> 1:20:48.560 Life Spent Running from Madness, and that's good if you 1:20:48.600 --> 1:20:50.880 want to read that, and the book focuses on living 1:20:50.880 --> 1:20:54.559 with bipolar disorder and how a misdiagnosis can fuck with 1:20:54.600 --> 1:20:57.760 your life. And this is just a little button on athletes. 1:20:59.040 --> 1:21:01.800 This guy, it's a veteran coach. His name is Brooks Johnson, 1:21:01.880 --> 1:21:05.559 who's worked with Olympic runners since nineteen sixty eight, said 1:21:06.080 --> 1:21:09.280 end quotes, no well adjusted person will ever become an 1:21:09.280 --> 1:21:13.120 Olympic champion. And this is to l magazine, and he continues, 1:21:13.400 --> 1:21:16.360 it's the same for art, politics, music. They go to 1:21:16.479 --> 1:21:22.519 extremes because they have extreme needs. So something to think about. Yeah, 1:21:23.160 --> 1:21:26.320 and that's that. That's not digwolf, that's real life, baby. 1:21:27.560 --> 1:21:30.000 And what a journey, What a fucking journey. And there 1:21:30.080 --> 1:21:33.840 was all these post allegations that were like look at 1:21:33.880 --> 1:21:37.439 her hoe and stuff like that, like sports, like there 1:21:37.479 --> 1:21:41.439 were a ton of like rude stories. 1:21:41.920 --> 1:21:45.720 What is it called byline? Not bylines? Headlines? Yeah? Why 1:21:45.720 --> 1:21:47.240 could I not come up with headlines? 1:21:47.280 --> 1:21:51.200 But it does seem like she handled her shit really 1:21:51.240 --> 1:21:53.800 like on like she did lose a lot but gained 1:21:53.840 --> 1:21:56.280 a lot with the book and her future in her 1:21:56.320 --> 1:21:59.600 life and feeling healthy and I'm glad she was not 1:21:59.640 --> 1:22:01.960 a soul and it seemed like she did whether it 1:22:02.000 --> 1:22:04.479 was bipolar misdiagnosis or what. 1:22:04.680 --> 1:22:05.080 It didn't. 1:22:05.360 --> 1:22:07.759 It did seem like she liked what she was doing. 1:22:08.080 --> 1:22:10.760 It wasn't a situation where she was forced in any way. 1:22:11.280 --> 1:22:17.519 So that's obviously a better situation than the Yeah, well, 1:22:17.680 --> 1:22:20.080 thank you for telling us about that. I did not 1:22:20.160 --> 1:22:22.960 know anything about this woman. No, that's what I mean. 1:22:23.120 --> 1:22:25.479 That's why I like that pole vaulter. Like going into 1:22:25.479 --> 1:22:27.679 her living room and seeing cardboard cutouts of her body. 1:22:27.680 --> 1:22:32.080 It's like, in what world? In what fucking world are 1:22:32.120 --> 1:22:34.880 we getting cut outs of pole vaulters at the grocery store. 1:22:34.960 --> 1:22:39.799 But that's why anyone that brings up women's like college 1:22:39.920 --> 1:22:43.840 swimming for trans arguments, it's like, honey, we know you 1:22:43.840 --> 1:22:48.080 don't care about swimmers, like we don't care about the 1:22:48.120 --> 1:22:52.840 popular women's sports. You're watching swimming, Yeah, on a collegiate level. No, 1:22:54.880 --> 1:22:56.880 stay out of it, baby, stay out of it. 1:22:56.880 --> 1:23:01.080 Oh man, Well, we have a very exciting guests, so 1:23:01.200 --> 1:23:02.040 don't go anywhere. 1:23:02.200 --> 1:23:03.760 We're gonna talk to her in a moment. 1:23:03.840 --> 1:23:06.320 I bet you can guess who it is or not 1:23:06.560 --> 1:23:09.560 or your fools. 1:23:14.439 --> 1:23:17.120 All right, you guys might know our guests this week 1:23:17.160 --> 1:23:20.559 as Debbie from True Blood or Penny in Riverdale. She 1:23:20.880 --> 1:23:23.800 most recently appeared in the movie The Donor Party, and 1:23:24.400 --> 1:23:27.920 you probably know her best though, as s Few's Jenna Miller. 1:23:28.439 --> 1:23:31.519 Please enjoy our chat with the actor Britt Morgan. 1:23:32.320 --> 1:23:36.040 Hello Britt Morgan. Oh hello, Hi. 1:23:36.880 --> 1:23:40.040 Having no so great to have you on the pod. 1:23:40.120 --> 1:23:42.760 This is a huge, a huge get This is the 1:23:42.880 --> 1:23:44.200 start of this episode. 1:23:45.479 --> 1:23:46.320 I'm so excited. 1:23:46.360 --> 1:23:48.599 Well before we start, are you air drying your hair? 1:23:48.680 --> 1:23:50.800 Are you curling it? What's happening? It looks great? 1:23:51.560 --> 1:23:51.960 Thank you? 1:23:52.040 --> 1:23:54.679 So I didn't wash it today. It's second day hair 1:23:54.760 --> 1:23:57.000 and I do the wand thing same. 1:23:57.720 --> 1:23:58.679 I'm a wand gal. 1:23:59.120 --> 1:24:01.840 Yeah, it looks effect and like the second day the 1:24:01.920 --> 1:24:04.280 curls like kind of fall. Not today I'm not wanding, 1:24:04.280 --> 1:24:06.200 but normally I'm a wand gal And like the next 1:24:06.280 --> 1:24:08.720 day it's kind of like good PC pieces. 1:24:08.880 --> 1:24:12.240 It's got the deadhead second day. Thanks. 1:24:12.479 --> 1:24:14.559 I guess we have to start by asking what we're 1:24:14.600 --> 1:24:16.880 all thinking. Now you are an athlete, what's going like? 1:24:17.360 --> 1:24:19.439 What like, what's happening? 1:24:20.080 --> 1:24:21.519 What in the episode? Well? 1:24:23.240 --> 1:24:28.000 And how did you do? I mean, I don't know 1:24:29.720 --> 1:24:30.679 the hoppit. 1:24:30.760 --> 1:24:33.120 I mean it's a physically demanding episode. You look like 1:24:33.160 --> 1:24:36.600 an Olympian pole vaulter, and so I assume maybe you 1:24:36.680 --> 1:24:39.160 had like a track past or something. 1:24:39.920 --> 1:24:43.599 I have no track pass, no athletic ability, but I 1:24:43.680 --> 1:24:46.599 have broad shoulders. 1:24:47.200 --> 1:24:50.280 That's the ticket. They just look athletic. 1:24:50.680 --> 1:24:52.679 Oh my god, they brought you in for the audition. 1:24:52.760 --> 1:24:54.280 They were like, don't even have her open her mouth. 1:24:54.320 --> 1:24:55.320 Those shoulders got you. 1:24:55.439 --> 1:24:59.280 Casts Actually even funnier. It was a straight offer. I 1:24:59.320 --> 1:24:59.880 think it's the. 1:25:00.800 --> 1:25:04.920 Oh my gosh, hell yeah, straight off from sv You 1:25:05.000 --> 1:25:06.440 must feel great. 1:25:06.960 --> 1:25:08.320 I'm not gonna lie. It was a moment. 1:25:08.400 --> 1:25:10.600 I was really I wasn't really blown away because the 1:25:10.920 --> 1:25:14.080 role so challenging that I was kind of amazed that 1:25:14.120 --> 1:25:14.960 they offered it to me. 1:25:15.000 --> 1:25:16.919 It was. It was a cool moment. It's awesome. 1:25:17.040 --> 1:25:19.599 Yeah, because you have to do a lot. I mean 1:25:19.640 --> 1:25:24.000 there's such a range. There's like a mania, yeah, you know, 1:25:24.120 --> 1:25:26.000 the mania, bipolar, Yeah, the MAINI. 1:25:25.920 --> 1:25:29.040 Well, we talk about Svu Bingo, and I would say, like, 1:25:29.160 --> 1:25:32.599 you have great Svu Bingo moments in this where like 1:25:32.760 --> 1:25:34.879 you got to be on the stand, have a breakdown 1:25:34.920 --> 1:25:38.200 on the stand, Like do have like a really wild 1:25:38.360 --> 1:25:40.559 capture from the cops where you're trying to hop from 1:25:40.560 --> 1:25:42.920 building the building and like do all this crazy shit 1:25:43.120 --> 1:25:45.960 and then there's a twist with a with a mental illness. 1:25:46.000 --> 1:25:47.880 So a lot of really a lot of really good 1:25:47.880 --> 1:25:52.439 stuff is happening for you in this But like up top, 1:25:52.560 --> 1:25:54.320 I just want to know how that worked with like 1:25:54.360 --> 1:25:57.120 that scene when you were jumping from one building to 1:25:57.120 --> 1:25:59.120 the other. Obviously they didn't make you do that, but 1:25:59.200 --> 1:26:01.400 like how did they shoot that with you? Were they 1:26:01.479 --> 1:26:03.439 just like run really quick and then stop yourself before 1:26:03.479 --> 1:26:04.679 you get to the edge of a building. 1:26:04.880 --> 1:26:10.639 Like actually, yes, that's one of the most distinctive sea 1:26:10.640 --> 1:26:12.439 because this was a this was a minute ago at 1:26:12.479 --> 1:26:14.799 this point eight years regard or something. But I feel 1:26:14.800 --> 1:26:16.400 like that was one of the scenes I remember the 1:26:16.439 --> 1:26:19.519 most because I really was barefoot. It really was like 1:26:19.680 --> 1:26:22.280 cold outside building. I didn't go to the edge edge 1:26:22.280 --> 1:26:25.040 of the building because safety precautions, but and I didn't 1:26:25.080 --> 1:26:27.160 jump over the building. But no, they that was like 1:26:27.320 --> 1:26:30.080 very real. I remember running. I remember like hurt, like 1:26:30.120 --> 1:26:32.800 in real life, hurting my ankle. I remember being like 1:26:32.800 --> 1:26:34.360 this this seed That scene was a bit. 1:26:34.280 --> 1:26:39.320 Intense Yoh but did they have a stunt person do 1:26:39.439 --> 1:26:42.320 the hop or was that like CGI? 1:26:43.479 --> 1:26:45.880 I honestly don't remember God. 1:26:45.720 --> 1:26:47.479 We need some now you were in a dress. 1:26:47.720 --> 1:26:51.240 I mean yeah, yeah, that's yeah. 1:26:51.320 --> 1:26:54.160 That was that was intense, really running barefoot, and I 1:26:54.200 --> 1:26:59.200 think I think it was cgi the jump cool wow 1:26:59.360 --> 1:26:59.960 big budget. 1:27:00.320 --> 1:27:03.160 We were doing press one time, like radio and they 1:27:03.200 --> 1:27:05.960 said something like, well, you know, Law and Order is 1:27:06.040 --> 1:27:09.000 not like a movie they cut corners. 1:27:09.040 --> 1:27:10.400 What is an example of that? 1:27:10.520 --> 1:27:14.680 And we were like you are mistaken, sir, like absolutely not. 1:27:15.000 --> 1:27:17.640 I'm like, there's never been a cutting of corners. 1:27:18.200 --> 1:27:20.320 Yeah, We're like they actually have quite a budget. 1:27:21.960 --> 1:27:24.360 There was no cutting of corners on Lawn Order. 1:27:24.439 --> 1:27:26.160 No, We're like, you fool. 1:27:26.240 --> 1:27:30.280 But also the treadmill scene seemed intense. No, how long 1:27:30.320 --> 1:27:31.240 do you have to run on that? 1:27:31.360 --> 1:27:33.839 How fast that opening scene? 1:27:33.960 --> 1:27:36.439 Yeah yes, because if they asked me to do that, 1:27:36.520 --> 1:27:37.720 I would be like all right, but you got to 1:27:37.720 --> 1:27:39.280 get the shot first take because then I'm having an 1:27:39.280 --> 1:27:41.320 asthma attack, you know, like I wouldn't be able to 1:27:41.840 --> 1:27:44.040 do that over and over they go that fast? 1:27:44.200 --> 1:27:48.320 Okay, Yeah, yeah that was fast. 1:27:48.439 --> 1:27:51.160 Yeah, because it's like a wild like mom mom, and 1:27:51.200 --> 1:27:53.519 you're so in the zone, like you're ignoring the little 1:27:53.560 --> 1:27:55.880 kid and just like just not the kind of workout 1:27:55.880 --> 1:27:57.280 ethic I have, but you know. 1:27:57.720 --> 1:27:58.160 Me, neither. 1:27:58.720 --> 1:27:59.640 She's an olympian. 1:28:00.120 --> 1:28:04.040 She's an olympian. She is an Olympian. Yeah, no, luckily 1:28:04.040 --> 1:28:04.639 that was fast. 1:28:04.680 --> 1:28:04.840 I know. 1:28:04.880 --> 1:28:05.120 I don't. 1:28:05.120 --> 1:28:05.759 I don't remember. 1:28:05.960 --> 1:28:06.120 You know. 1:28:06.120 --> 1:28:07.920 The funny thing is you booked these roles and it's 1:28:07.920 --> 1:28:09.720 not like I had a ton of It's not like 1:28:09.760 --> 1:28:12.400 I had months to prepare, right, I think I had 1:28:12.520 --> 1:28:15.719 had two weeks. So it was it was so much like, Okay, 1:28:15.720 --> 1:28:17.880 should I focus on the bipolar? Should I focus on 1:28:17.920 --> 1:28:20.639 the athleticism? Should I focus on the And I remember 1:28:20.720 --> 1:28:24.800 focusing mostly on I think the bipolar aspect and then 1:28:24.840 --> 1:28:25.960 the given circumstances. 1:28:25.960 --> 1:28:27.400 But it's not like I trained for this. 1:28:27.720 --> 1:28:31.360 Yeah, like physically, like. 1:28:31.400 --> 1:28:33.920 You must have had to do like a full did 1:28:33.920 --> 1:28:36.479 you do like a full Nike style photo shoot? Because 1:28:36.520 --> 1:28:39.799 there's all this like like footage of you pole vaulting 1:28:39.920 --> 1:28:43.200 and then you like in these Gatorade Nike asque like. 1:28:43.360 --> 1:28:47.960 Ads full photo shoot. It was awesome. Wow, Shoot, that 1:28:48.040 --> 1:28:48.639 was really cool. 1:28:48.680 --> 1:28:49.880 And that was a moment where I was like this 1:28:50.040 --> 1:28:53.120 they really have like no no cutting corners? 1:28:53.240 --> 1:28:57.400 Yeah, did you take the cardboard cutout home of yourself? 1:28:58.479 --> 1:29:00.800 I didn't take the cardboard cutout, which I don't know why. 1:29:00.840 --> 1:29:05.519 Maybe I don't I don't want to go. I took 1:29:05.560 --> 1:29:09.360 home all like the other and like the magazine's style shoot. 1:29:09.680 --> 1:29:12.120 Yeah that was cool. 1:29:12.240 --> 1:29:15.320 One time on X but we were dating sent me 1:29:15.520 --> 1:29:19.479 a cardboard cutout of themselves for my birthday because they 1:29:19.479 --> 1:29:21.200 couldn't be there, and then they dumped me a week 1:29:21.280 --> 1:29:23.320 later and then I had it. 1:29:25.240 --> 1:29:27.879 That's actually so psychotic, yeah. 1:29:28.840 --> 1:29:33.920 Psycho, Wait, so what did you take? 1:29:34.760 --> 1:29:37.080 There was like these little card and then there was 1:29:37.080 --> 1:29:39.680 some eight x ten size of the photo. 1:29:39.320 --> 1:29:41.560 Shoot it having like a Mento box. But I have 1:29:41.640 --> 1:29:42.559 a bunch of them. 1:29:42.840 --> 1:29:46.920 What are other things you've taken from other sets? Oh? 1:29:47.120 --> 1:29:49.280 I don't have luck with being able to take anything. 1:29:49.640 --> 1:29:52.760 Like I did a large arc on True Blood and 1:29:52.800 --> 1:29:54.559 I took like my leather jacket. 1:29:55.160 --> 1:29:55.880 Yeah. 1:29:56.000 --> 1:29:57.960 Nice, Yeah, that was a good one. 1:29:58.040 --> 1:29:59.960 I remember you on True Blood. I'm a true blo 1:30:00.240 --> 1:30:03.960 Giry and I remember your character. You were like against 1:30:04.400 --> 1:30:07.000 Joe Manganello's character. Right, were you a were wolf or 1:30:07.000 --> 1:30:09.000 were you a were panther werewolf? 1:30:09.120 --> 1:30:10.880 I was with Joe Manganello and I was like the 1:30:11.000 --> 1:30:15.400 Suoki at Sukie Nemesis. Yeah yeah, it was cool. 1:30:15.640 --> 1:30:18.120 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I totally remember your character because 1:30:18.120 --> 1:30:20.040 that show was I watched it from the beginning and 1:30:20.080 --> 1:30:24.240 it just really a rollercoaster, a lot of different people 1:30:24.280 --> 1:30:26.080 in and out, but I remember you. 1:30:26.120 --> 1:30:28.880 Oh I'm really lucky because I haven't seen it yet 1:30:28.920 --> 1:30:31.559 and one one week I know I'm gonna binge it 1:30:31.600 --> 1:30:34.479 one day and I'm gonna really fall deep. 1:30:34.520 --> 1:30:35.360 I'm excited at all. 1:30:35.400 --> 1:30:37.680 In you might, I think it still holds up. 1:30:37.760 --> 1:30:40.400 That's what everyone tells me. Yeah, I'm like, I can't wait. 1:30:40.760 --> 1:30:43.639 Our listeners want me to watch it, and I will, 1:30:43.680 --> 1:30:47.679 but I need the perfect rainy day to dive in. 1:30:48.200 --> 1:30:52.120 So Britt, I have not to brag. I've met a 1:30:52.160 --> 1:30:55.360 lot of famous people. I don't usually get superstarstruck, but 1:30:55.680 --> 1:30:59.240 I shot a sketch with Joe Manganello once and I 1:30:59.439 --> 1:31:02.599 was true, like I was like tongue tied. 1:31:02.640 --> 1:31:03.400 How hot he is? 1:31:03.600 --> 1:31:05.880 Like I was just kind of like, uh, like he 1:31:06.400 --> 1:31:07.880 said something to me at one point and I was 1:31:07.920 --> 1:31:10.639 like sure, Like I just couldn't even like talk. He's 1:31:10.680 --> 1:31:14.080 so hot. It was so nuts. Is that how you felt? 1:31:14.320 --> 1:31:16.400 Is that how you felt at the beginning. I'm sure 1:31:16.439 --> 1:31:19.760 you guys are like old pals now, but old pals. 1:31:19.479 --> 1:31:22.240 Now at the beginning. Yeah, and he's also really tall 1:31:22.320 --> 1:31:22.639 and hot. 1:31:22.720 --> 1:31:25.639 Yeah, he's mad, he's so big, I will be honest. 1:31:25.760 --> 1:31:29.200 So I was twenty two on True Blood, wow, and. 1:31:29.120 --> 1:31:33.200 I had nothing of that caliber ever before on my resume. 1:31:34.360 --> 1:31:37.599 So I was just so focused and terrified of of 1:31:37.640 --> 1:31:39.639 not like I wanted so badly just to. 1:31:39.600 --> 1:31:41.280 Do a good job, you know when you're play too. 1:31:41.840 --> 1:31:44.240 So as hot as he was, I don't know. 1:31:44.280 --> 1:31:47.600 I was so overwhelmed, honestly, Yeah, during True Blood just 1:31:47.600 --> 1:31:49.080 because I was I was so young, and I didn't 1:31:49.120 --> 1:31:50.439 have that many credits and. 1:31:50.360 --> 1:31:51.559 It was such a hot show. 1:31:51.800 --> 1:31:55.760 Yeah, it was, honestly, So him being insanely gorgeous was 1:31:55.800 --> 1:31:57.640 just one of the things that I was like, what 1:31:57.760 --> 1:31:58.280 is going on? 1:31:59.120 --> 1:32:01.840 What is going on? But he is beautiful. He's a 1:32:01.880 --> 1:32:02.720 really nice guy too. 1:32:03.240 --> 1:32:03.479 Yeah. 1:32:03.520 --> 1:32:06.240 My husband has run a Dungeons and Dragons game for 1:32:06.360 --> 1:32:08.280 him once, so I like that. He's also kind of 1:32:08.280 --> 1:32:09.160 a nerd as well. 1:32:10.160 --> 1:32:12.879 That's right, he's a gamer. There's a lot of gamers 1:32:12.920 --> 1:32:13.599 on that show. 1:32:14.120 --> 1:32:17.040 It's like the door the very dorky underbelly of gaming 1:32:17.080 --> 1:32:20.920 as well. It's very very dorky, like as as a 1:32:20.920 --> 1:32:21.960 as a wife, of a dork. 1:32:23.160 --> 1:32:26.400 But okay, so that was just a side question, Liza. 1:32:26.560 --> 1:32:30.840 Oh well, no, it's true Blood and you're also in Riverdale. 1:32:31.000 --> 1:32:32.880 They both seem like big fandoms. 1:32:33.320 --> 1:32:34.040 Yeah, are you? 1:32:34.200 --> 1:32:37.280 Are you doing the like comic cons? Are you? What's 1:32:37.360 --> 1:32:38.840 the vibe in the streets? 1:32:39.920 --> 1:32:43.040 What is the vibe in the streets? I gotta get 1:32:41.960 --> 1:32:46.799 I was doing a lot of them for the pandemic. Yeah, 1:32:47.040 --> 1:32:49.479 a lot of of that, especially for True Blood. I 1:32:49.520 --> 1:32:52.799 haven't done them in probably four years, five years, but I'm. 1:32:52.680 --> 1:32:53.200 Open to them. 1:32:53.200 --> 1:32:54.879 They're fun, the cons. 1:32:54.920 --> 1:32:55.479 They're not bad. 1:32:55.600 --> 1:32:57.519 Yeah, the cons are fun, They're a whole thing. I 1:32:57.560 --> 1:32:59.000 haven't done them in quite a bit, though, and I 1:32:59.000 --> 1:33:00.160 don't know what's going on. 1:33:00.479 --> 1:33:01.519 They're still around though. 1:33:01.800 --> 1:33:02.520 Yeah. 1:33:02.560 --> 1:33:06.840 But when people approach you, do you know by the 1:33:06.880 --> 1:33:08.559 way they look what they're about to say. 1:33:11.600 --> 1:33:14.759 Oh, that's a good question, Like are a lot. 1:33:14.560 --> 1:33:17.439 Of goths finding you know, like they know him more? 1:33:18.720 --> 1:33:19.360 No? 1:33:19.360 --> 1:33:22.360 No, I haven't done enough to have my radar that 1:33:22.600 --> 1:33:26.479 like tuned in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:33:25.840 --> 1:33:27.439 What are people what if people come up to you 1:33:27.520 --> 1:33:32.120 the most about usually True Blood and Supergirl, say. 1:33:31.760 --> 1:33:33.599 A girl another big fandom? 1:33:34.320 --> 1:33:36.719 Yeah, another big fandom, I guess, Yeah, it is interesting 1:33:36.720 --> 1:33:38.600 to realize how many of those I've done, yeah, and 1:33:38.640 --> 1:33:40.559 I've gotten I did the villain thing. 1:33:40.600 --> 1:33:42.799 They're all villains. All these characters are villains. 1:33:43.000 --> 1:33:47.599 Oh so people will always have things to say about 1:33:47.640 --> 1:33:50.160 that or like, I like, there's a lot. 1:33:50.040 --> 1:33:52.519 Of like you on the show, but I like you 1:33:52.560 --> 1:33:55.880 in real life. That's kind of like you know, which 1:33:55.920 --> 1:33:57.160 is totally which I take as. 1:33:57.040 --> 1:33:59.599 A compliment, because these characters are supposed to be kind 1:33:59.600 --> 1:34:02.400 of you know, you love to hate him, but yeah. 1:34:02.360 --> 1:34:06.280 All villains, dude, Yeah, Well this this episode, I don't 1:34:06.320 --> 1:34:08.479 know if you actually like ran into her that much 1:34:08.520 --> 1:34:12.839 because this episode is intertwined with Lindsay Pulsifer, who plays 1:34:13.040 --> 1:34:15.320 Rollin's sister. You guys aren't in any scenes together. But 1:34:15.360 --> 1:34:16.760 I don't know if you like saw her on set 1:34:16.800 --> 1:34:20.160 at all. But she's a very like hated character by 1:34:20.200 --> 1:34:22.040 the sv people, But we've had her on our podcast 1:34:22.120 --> 1:34:25.360 and she's so lovely because like she's just a bad 1:34:25.439 --> 1:34:25.760 she's a. 1:34:25.720 --> 1:34:26.519 Villain on the show. 1:34:26.560 --> 1:34:28.479 She's a bad like sister on the show, you know, 1:34:29.320 --> 1:34:31.479 so she gets that a lot too, where people are like, 1:34:31.520 --> 1:34:33.479 you shouldn't be so mean to your sister, like when 1:34:33.479 --> 1:34:36.440 she's just like grocery shopping exactly. 1:34:36.760 --> 1:34:38.759 That's what people, That's when I get the most across 1:34:38.760 --> 1:34:41.360 the board. And I also I love Lindsay's actually a 1:34:41.400 --> 1:34:42.080 good friend of mine. 1:34:42.080 --> 1:34:43.400 Oh because we. 1:34:43.280 --> 1:34:44.280 Were on True Blood together. 1:34:44.439 --> 1:34:47.120 Oh yeah, that's right. Duh, I forgot. 1:34:47.479 --> 1:34:49.800 Oh my god, there's a lot of SVU True Blood 1:34:49.800 --> 1:34:53.559 crossover now that I'm thinking about it. Oh world, Yeah, 1:34:53.600 --> 1:34:56.280 when's Joe Mancanello going to do an episode of Best View? 1:34:56.400 --> 1:34:59.400 You know what I'm saying. We got to get him 1:34:59.439 --> 1:35:00.800 on Get in there. 1:35:01.520 --> 1:35:04.840 Yeah. Kelly Giddish told us that one time someone came 1:35:04.920 --> 1:35:07.160 up to her when she was in a casino and 1:35:07.200 --> 1:35:08.599 they were like, should you be in here? 1:35:08.640 --> 1:35:13.639 Because her character has a gambling problem. So I like that. 1:35:13.640 --> 1:35:16.000 It's so funny. It's so funny. 1:35:16.200 --> 1:35:18.600 Speaking of Kelly Giddish, you had like a lot of 1:35:18.600 --> 1:35:21.920 one on one with like Marishka and Kelly in this episode. 1:35:22.000 --> 1:35:25.479 How was working with them? Like we love Marishka tidbits anything, 1:35:25.600 --> 1:35:28.080 or I mean, we love Kelly Tidbits too, But you know, 1:35:30.360 --> 1:35:31.120 I love Kelly. 1:35:31.160 --> 1:35:35.120 I remember marish a few Marishka scenes like really really well, 1:35:35.760 --> 1:35:38.519 and just I just was so blown away by her 1:35:38.600 --> 1:35:42.320 because after so many seasons of doing this show. She's 1:35:42.479 --> 1:35:45.640 just the real deal, and she really like held the 1:35:45.680 --> 1:35:49.360 bar high. I mean, I was pushing myself regardless, but 1:35:49.439 --> 1:35:52.600 just I remember doing I don't know, it's sometimes I 1:35:52.600 --> 1:35:56.160 hope I'm not saying too much, but I remember all 1:35:56.160 --> 1:35:59.760 the scenes were emotional. But I remember doing coverage and 1:36:00.880 --> 1:36:03.240 she had said something like like I was doing one 1:36:03.240 --> 1:36:05.360 thing on my take and then we turned around and 1:36:05.400 --> 1:36:07.680 I think I changed it, and I think that she 1:36:07.920 --> 1:36:10.080 kind of like mentioned something in like a very kind 1:36:10.280 --> 1:36:13.240 like way of kind of like making sure I'm matching 1:36:13.280 --> 1:36:14.519 what I did for my coverage. 1:36:14.520 --> 1:36:15.480 For her coverage. 1:36:15.600 --> 1:36:19.400 She was also super supportive and like after every emotional scene, 1:36:19.400 --> 1:36:22.040 she was just like had the kindest words to say, 1:36:22.080 --> 1:36:24.960 and I just felt like she was really interested in the. 1:36:25.000 --> 1:36:25.439 Art of it. 1:36:25.520 --> 1:36:27.840 Still, Yeah, which a lot of times you do you 1:36:27.880 --> 1:36:30.760 do crime shows, and sometimes the leads have checked out 1:36:30.840 --> 1:36:33.160 years ago totally, you know what I mean, because it's 1:36:33.160 --> 1:36:35.720 the same thing all the time, you know what I mean, 1:36:35.960 --> 1:36:39.439 twenty two episodes after year after year after year. So 1:36:39.600 --> 1:36:43.280 just to see how she like the space she held, 1:36:43.000 --> 1:36:45.960 I would like enter a scene and immediately me be like, 1:36:46.040 --> 1:36:47.800 I have to make sure I'm like rising to the 1:36:47.840 --> 1:36:50.960 occasion just by the space she held. Yeah, so there's 1:36:50.960 --> 1:36:53.519 like a degree of excellence I think she brings that 1:36:53.680 --> 1:36:55.520 makes you want to rise to the occasion. 1:36:55.960 --> 1:36:57.559 That was just impressed by her, and I think that's 1:36:57.600 --> 1:37:01.200 why the show's still on souring their twenty fifth season 1:37:01.280 --> 1:37:03.559 is because she's still like yeah, like in it. 1:37:03.520 --> 1:37:06.120 For the art of it too, like hands down, Like 1:37:06.160 --> 1:37:08.960 I really honestly think that that's it, Like it's amazing. 1:37:09.680 --> 1:37:12.800 During the strike, we didn't have any guests, so you're 1:37:12.880 --> 1:37:16.759 one of our first guests back, and I miss hearing 1:37:16.920 --> 1:37:18.720 positive things about mrccal hargetay. 1:37:18.920 --> 1:37:21.720 Like that really brought me a lot of joy. 1:37:21.920 --> 1:37:26.160 Because she does seem just amazing and wants the guest 1:37:26.200 --> 1:37:27.719 stars that come on to do a good job. 1:37:28.120 --> 1:37:30.280 It's insane, I have to be honest, Like I've never 1:37:30.320 --> 1:37:33.240 seen anything like it, Like there was such this maternal 1:37:33.360 --> 1:37:35.759 or like older sister like she does she cares about 1:37:35.760 --> 1:37:36.599 you doing a great. 1:37:36.479 --> 1:37:38.880 Job and that the show is great like that this 1:37:39.000 --> 1:37:39.840 scenms to feel real. 1:37:40.160 --> 1:37:42.240 She knows how much it means to people, I think 1:37:42.240 --> 1:37:43.960 to be on it, like it is a stamp for 1:37:44.040 --> 1:37:47.679 so many actors, like done a law order, their first credit. 1:37:47.920 --> 1:37:48.960 You know that's cool. 1:37:49.240 --> 1:37:49.840 Totally. 1:37:49.920 --> 1:37:53.360 Oh my god, it is so many people's first credit. Yeah, 1:37:53.400 --> 1:37:54.920 it's amazing to think about that. 1:37:55.040 --> 1:37:55.719 Yeah, totally. 1:37:56.280 --> 1:37:57.320 Yeah, the show's just great. 1:37:57.320 --> 1:38:00.240 It's first credits or it's people you know, like Carol 1:38:00.240 --> 1:38:02.840 Burnett will just be a killer. 1:38:03.640 --> 1:38:05.439 Ah yeah, right, Well. 1:38:05.280 --> 1:38:07.120 We were talking about I don't know how to say 1:38:07.160 --> 1:38:09.680 his last name, Joe Matt what is it manganello. 1:38:10.080 --> 1:38:11.439 Yeah, so he was being hot. 1:38:11.920 --> 1:38:16.360 I do want to say your attacker was hot, theo Stockman. 1:38:16.680 --> 1:38:19.280 I felt like he was hot. How did you feel, 1:38:21.240 --> 1:38:23.680 bad guy? But I was I like, I looked him up. 1:38:23.680 --> 1:38:27.759 I was like, who is this? Are you guys best friends? 1:38:28.840 --> 1:38:29.880 He was super sweet. 1:38:29.960 --> 1:38:31.640 I think I'm I crazy. I think it was like 1:38:31.680 --> 1:38:34.919 one of his first jobs. But anyway, we're not best friends. 1:38:35.200 --> 1:38:38.559 He was so sweet, but in the scenes he was 1:38:38.600 --> 1:38:43.840 giving creepy rapist vibes. Yeah yeah, but like they were thick. 1:38:43.920 --> 1:38:45.800 I mean in his acting, not in real life, right 1:38:45.920 --> 1:38:50.639 right act. I just watched it again last night because 1:38:50.640 --> 1:38:52.400 I was I needed to remember what it was. 1:38:52.479 --> 1:38:54.200 And yeah, he's very cute. 1:38:54.439 --> 1:38:59.120 Yeah he's a Broadway guy too, Lisa, Oh yeah, yeah, 1:38:59.240 --> 1:38:59.840 is that your thing? 1:39:00.439 --> 1:39:03.040 We I like to see the hip shows I do. 1:39:03.200 --> 1:39:04.559 I'm in it. I wish I was. 1:39:04.840 --> 1:39:06.920 I wish I had more in depth knowledge. But I 1:39:06.960 --> 1:39:08.800 love going to Broadway shows when I'm in New York 1:39:08.840 --> 1:39:09.160 for sure. 1:39:09.439 --> 1:39:10.519 Oh yeah, And a lot. 1:39:10.400 --> 1:39:12.599 Of our listeners sometimes, you know, we do a lot 1:39:12.640 --> 1:39:15.280 of episodes and we recap them and. 1:39:15.200 --> 1:39:17.640 People will be like, I can't believe you didn't mention this. 1:39:17.960 --> 1:39:18.919 They were on Broadway. 1:39:19.040 --> 1:39:20.920 So we have a lot of Broadway people that listen 1:39:21.000 --> 1:39:23.600 and I'm like, sorry, we didn't know that they were beetlejuice. 1:39:23.680 --> 1:39:24.040 My bad. 1:39:26.479 --> 1:39:26.719 Yeah. 1:39:26.760 --> 1:39:30.280 Wait, since you watched it yesterday, thank you for doing that. 1:39:30.840 --> 1:39:34.040 Any things that jogged your memory or scenes you were like, 1:39:34.080 --> 1:39:35.320 what were your thoughts watching it? 1:39:36.720 --> 1:39:38.000 A lot of things jog my memory. 1:39:38.240 --> 1:39:42.200 The athletic aspect of it, like on the track, me 1:39:42.320 --> 1:39:44.880 doing like these moves on the track to find me 1:39:44.920 --> 1:39:46.840 at the end, I'm like, I don't even know I 1:39:46.880 --> 1:39:50.799 know nothing about sports. The courtroom scene jog my memory 1:39:50.880 --> 1:39:52.640 because I take my shirt off in it. 1:39:52.840 --> 1:39:54.719 Yeah, that's what I wanted to ask you about. 1:39:54.800 --> 1:39:57.840 That's probably the only person to strip on the stand 1:39:57.880 --> 1:40:00.000 in SVU history. I mean, I don't think we've seen 1:40:00.240 --> 1:40:03.160 that before. We've seen We've seen erections on the stand. 1:40:03.240 --> 1:40:05.200 We've seen a lot of crazy shit on the stand, 1:40:05.240 --> 1:40:09.280 but my body is perfect. Taking off your shirt like 1:40:09.320 --> 1:40:12.320 that was a wild scene? How was that? 1:40:12.320 --> 1:40:13.400 That was a wild scene? 1:40:13.439 --> 1:40:15.679 It was like, you know, sometimes you get a role 1:40:15.720 --> 1:40:18.040 and there's like the one scene you're like nervous about 1:40:18.040 --> 1:40:19.920 the whole time and you're like, I can't. 1:40:19.920 --> 1:40:20.719 That was the scene. 1:40:20.720 --> 1:40:22.599 I was even sitting here like nervous to see it 1:40:22.680 --> 1:40:26.599 back because technically acting wise, going from one, like you know, 1:40:26.920 --> 1:40:29.200 one thing to like this manic episode taking my shirt 1:40:29.200 --> 1:40:30.960 off on the scene, but also taking your shirt off 1:40:30.960 --> 1:40:32.519 ever on a stand is so odd. 1:40:33.240 --> 1:40:37.439 It was just so odd like and interesting to watch. 1:40:37.479 --> 1:40:39.919 But no, as me, that was that was really challenging 1:40:40.439 --> 1:40:42.320 just being able to like number one pull it off, 1:40:42.360 --> 1:40:44.800 like how do I pull this off? Like so so 1:40:44.880 --> 1:40:48.280 this doesn't like look ridiculous, and number two just feeling 1:40:48.360 --> 1:40:51.680 kind of bad for the character I. 1:40:50.880 --> 1:40:52.920 You know, yeah, I mean I was kind of like 1:40:53.000 --> 1:40:55.000 I thought that was a really interesting like part of 1:40:55.040 --> 1:40:58.040 this character that like, you know, we see female athletes 1:40:58.080 --> 1:41:00.560 in a certain way, and sometimes we see athletes that 1:41:00.600 --> 1:41:02.880 get dulled up on like red carpets and stuff like that, 1:41:02.960 --> 1:41:05.880 But this woman was really into like, I don't want 1:41:05.880 --> 1:41:08.080 to just be seen as like this athlete. I really 1:41:08.080 --> 1:41:10.040 want to be seen as like a sexy woman too. 1:41:10.040 --> 1:41:12.080 And that's like what started it. And that's I think 1:41:12.120 --> 1:41:14.559 even though she has the mental illness, that's what. 1:41:14.600 --> 1:41:15.320 He said to her. 1:41:15.360 --> 1:41:17.720 That lawyer is like what triggers all those feelings On 1:41:17.760 --> 1:41:20.080 the stand, She's like, I'll show you how hot I am, 1:41:20.160 --> 1:41:22.000 and like, you know, you look great, you look great. 1:41:23.200 --> 1:41:24.240 Oh oh gosh. 1:41:24.280 --> 1:41:29.000 As a woman myself, that was challenging because I don't 1:41:29.080 --> 1:41:31.680 feel like I have anything to be able to be like, 1:41:31.760 --> 1:41:35.000 oh look I'm perfect, yeah, yeah, perfect, Like I certainly 1:41:35.000 --> 1:41:36.160 don't feel that way about myself. 1:41:36.200 --> 1:41:37.880 I had to really jump in the character for that 1:41:38.479 --> 1:41:41.200 aspect of it. But you know how how odd. 1:41:41.040 --> 1:41:43.200 It you're of course, who's sitting you know in the 1:41:43.280 --> 1:41:45.920 audience is all these veteran actors, Mauricia get my risk 1:41:46.000 --> 1:41:47.559 and everybody, And I'm sitting here taking my shirt up 1:41:47.560 --> 1:41:49.200 and they're looking my voice isn't interesting? 1:41:49.320 --> 1:41:51.920 Yeah, scene, I haven't seen I haven't seen this one before. 1:41:52.040 --> 1:41:54.200 You know, there's like it's it's a little funny until 1:41:54.240 --> 1:41:55.360 you get into it. 1:41:55.600 --> 1:41:58.360 Well, Also, we've talked to people that the courtroom scenes 1:41:58.400 --> 1:42:01.200 do take a really long time to film because there's 1:42:01.200 --> 1:42:02.280 so much coverage to do. 1:42:02.439 --> 1:42:03.920 How many times did you have to do it? 1:42:03.960 --> 1:42:07.120 Was it like a really long long day, just you 1:42:07.160 --> 1:42:09.240 have to keep like ramping up to this big melt 1:42:09.280 --> 1:42:10.080 down and taking your. 1:42:09.960 --> 1:42:12.200 Shirt off over and over and over again. Oh my god. 1:42:12.960 --> 1:42:16.559 To be honest, yes, it's worth wild. It's works that 1:42:16.680 --> 1:42:20.559 it is work. It's just work, plain and simple. Yeah yeah, yeah, 1:42:20.680 --> 1:42:22.719 oh hard. Yeah. 1:42:22.760 --> 1:42:25.879 And then how was your How was your on screen husband? 1:42:26.000 --> 1:42:28.120 He seemed like I wanted to kill him for half 1:42:28.160 --> 1:42:30.360 the episode, but so the guy was doing a good job. 1:42:31.280 --> 1:42:32.120 Yeah, yeah, no, I was. 1:42:32.160 --> 1:42:34.160 I was impressed by him watching it back, I was like, 1:42:34.240 --> 1:42:37.760 he's good for this role, like I was giving, like 1:42:37.920 --> 1:42:41.840 husband of an Olympic athlete, Yeah, very well, like. 1:42:41.400 --> 1:42:43.920 Like we're a business. The two of us together are 1:42:43.960 --> 1:42:44.800 a business and you. 1:42:44.760 --> 1:42:49.240 Can't we're gonna get a gold medal. Yeah, that was nice. 1:42:50.120 --> 1:42:52.479 It was a nice detail that I totally forgotten so 1:42:52.600 --> 1:42:55.360 I watched it. He was a really nice guy, as 1:42:55.479 --> 1:42:58.040 as usual, the people who play these sort of characters 1:42:58.080 --> 1:42:59.360 are usually really nice y. 1:43:00.439 --> 1:43:00.679 Yeah. 1:43:01.240 --> 1:43:01.439 Yeah. 1:43:01.439 --> 1:43:03.880 We had a comedian friend of ours on the pod 1:43:03.920 --> 1:43:07.400 because he played an ice cream truck rapist and it 1:43:07.479 --> 1:43:10.439 is like wild. When then you know the person, you're like, wow, 1:43:11.160 --> 1:43:13.840 we were like Johnny would never come on. 1:43:16.080 --> 1:43:18.439 Johnny would never Oh my. 1:43:18.880 --> 1:43:22.479 Yeah, what are you up to? Now? Strike's over? What 1:43:22.520 --> 1:43:23.200 are you feeling? 1:43:24.600 --> 1:43:25.479 Strike is over? 1:43:26.160 --> 1:43:26.479 Back? 1:43:26.640 --> 1:43:29.560 It's so crazy. Back to auditioning. 1:43:29.600 --> 1:43:32.559 I shot an episode of The Rookie last week that 1:43:32.640 --> 1:43:36.080 was pretty fun. Yeah, it should be in the uh 1:43:36.520 --> 1:43:37.040 the season. 1:43:37.280 --> 1:43:40.200 The opener is that n C Nash No, who's in 1:43:40.240 --> 1:43:41.719 The Rookie? Nathan Fillian? 1:43:42.320 --> 1:43:46.400 Yes, yeah, I don't know if it's I know Nathan Filliae. 1:43:46.560 --> 1:43:51.360 Sorry, you're making him that she's in something right now? Yeah, sorry, 1:43:51.400 --> 1:43:52.840 that sounds kind of like The Rookie. 1:43:52.840 --> 1:43:54.160 I'm looking it up right now. 1:43:54.400 --> 1:43:57.280 Oh it's called the Rookie FEDS. Yes, so I wasn't 1:43:57.320 --> 1:43:58.599 far off. I wasn't far off. 1:43:58.840 --> 1:44:01.599 You were, Oh my god, there's so many he's spin off. 1:44:01.479 --> 1:44:04.240 Called the Rookie FEDS. And she's the star of it. 1:44:04.280 --> 1:44:07.160 That's why I was like the Rookie And that's cool, and. 1:44:07.200 --> 1:44:11.040 It's just getting back into it, getting back into the yeah, 1:44:11.080 --> 1:44:11.800 the whole thing. 1:44:12.080 --> 1:44:15.719 So hopefully have you like since you've done these big parts, 1:44:15.760 --> 1:44:17.479 like cause I know, like when you were on Riverdale 1:44:17.520 --> 1:44:19.360 you had like an eye patch or something crazy. 1:44:19.400 --> 1:44:22.200 You were like, yeah, you were a villain. 1:44:22.280 --> 1:44:24.400 Are you like continuing to like mostly go out for 1:44:24.479 --> 1:44:26.360 villain parts or do you do all kinds of stuff? 1:44:26.640 --> 1:44:28.800 I'm sure we are changing. 1:44:29.320 --> 1:44:35.719 We gotta change. We gotta change the branding, changing the branding. Serious. 1:44:35.960 --> 1:44:38.040 I think the only good thing about like I hadn't 1:44:38.120 --> 1:44:40.680 like worked that much in the last few years, is 1:44:40.760 --> 1:44:44.160 kind of feeling like ready to take an It's easy 1:44:44.200 --> 1:44:44.840 to get kind of like. 1:44:44.800 --> 1:44:45.840 A little bit pigeonhole. 1:44:46.040 --> 1:44:47.360 Yeah, you know what I mean. 1:44:47.479 --> 1:44:48.840 And then you and then you're making you know, you 1:44:48.920 --> 1:44:50.720 got you got to pay the bills, right. I guess 1:44:50.720 --> 1:44:52.720 I'm doing this one thing really well, like let's just 1:44:52.800 --> 1:44:55.559 keep doing it. But I got myself into a position 1:44:55.600 --> 1:44:57.679 where I feel like it's time to just just try 1:44:57.760 --> 1:45:02.240 different things and like, you know, expand it. So luckily though, 1:45:02.240 --> 1:45:04.519 I go out for everything. Yeah, I don't only go 1:45:04.560 --> 1:45:05.280 out for villains. 1:45:05.720 --> 1:45:08.040 Sure, sure, all right, Well we'll see what the next 1:45:08.120 --> 1:45:08.680 thing is. 1:45:08.880 --> 1:45:10.559 We'll see. 1:45:11.360 --> 1:45:12.799 Yeah, that's awesome. 1:45:12.960 --> 1:45:15.280 Is there anything else you want our listeners to check 1:45:15.280 --> 1:45:16.400 out or know about? 1:45:17.280 --> 1:45:21.400 Uh no, not really follow me? On social media be 1:45:21.479 --> 1:45:24.280 in touch. Yeah, and I'll keep you I'll keep you posting. 1:45:24.439 --> 1:45:26.280 Yeah, We're going to tag you up and everything when 1:45:26.280 --> 1:45:28.000 this comes out and everything, of course. 1:45:28.439 --> 1:45:30.080 But this is awesome. I mean, do you have. 1:45:30.040 --> 1:45:33.160 Any like last minute little like funny things that happened 1:45:33.200 --> 1:45:35.040 on set. Did you and Iced Tea run into each 1:45:35.040 --> 1:45:37.200 other at Craft Services? Like anything you want to say 1:45:37.200 --> 1:45:37.840 before we leave? 1:45:38.880 --> 1:45:43.960 No, although I will say in the courtroom scene when 1:45:44.000 --> 1:45:45.760 we were doing it, I was like freaking out and 1:45:45.800 --> 1:45:46.960 taking my shirt off and everything. 1:45:47.240 --> 1:45:49.400 Ice Youa just like, Wow, you never seen anything like 1:45:49.400 --> 1:45:54.400 this before. Great scene. He's a trip. He's really funny. 1:45:54.600 --> 1:45:57.920 We are are dying, actively dying to meet him. 1:45:58.000 --> 1:45:58.240 Yes. 1:45:58.600 --> 1:45:59.960 Has he not been on the podcast yet? 1:46:00.240 --> 1:46:03.080 Yeah, my god, yes not yet. 1:46:03.080 --> 1:46:05.040 We've had a lot of regulars, We've had a lot, 1:46:05.120 --> 1:46:07.719 We've had a lot of like longtime classics. But we're 1:46:07.840 --> 1:46:10.200 we're waiting on like him and Marishka, because we feel 1:46:10.240 --> 1:46:13.439 like the podcast is basically over once we get them. 1:46:13.640 --> 1:46:17.519 And to But we did I see got a star 1:46:17.560 --> 1:46:21.040 on the Walk of Fame, and we did carolied and 1:46:21.080 --> 1:46:22.800 said we were pressed, and we got into the press 1:46:22.840 --> 1:46:24.360 box and. 1:46:24.479 --> 1:46:27.519 We got we got close. We are pressed. 1:46:27.560 --> 1:46:29.800 We have access to more people that like s view 1:46:29.840 --> 1:46:32.160 than probably any press person in that breast box. 1:46:35.600 --> 1:46:38.120 Kara was wearing a pea coach. She looked perfect and 1:46:38.320 --> 1:46:39.360 really was able to. 1:46:40.800 --> 1:46:43.479 And pretending it was a snuffo, you know, with our 1:46:43.520 --> 1:46:44.759 PR company or something. 1:46:46.640 --> 1:46:48.639 When was this with the Walk of Fame the Star 1:46:49.000 --> 1:46:50.439 last when last year? 1:46:50.560 --> 1:46:51.520 Yeah? 1:46:51.640 --> 1:46:55.160 Like jar but we got an amazing photo of his 1:46:55.360 --> 1:46:59.439 daughter leaping into Marishka's arms, and hopefully one day we 1:46:59.479 --> 1:47:01.360 will be able to meet her and give her this picture. 1:47:01.360 --> 1:47:02.799 It's like, so fucking cute. 1:47:02.880 --> 1:47:06.719 Yeah, that's amazing. Wow, that is so cool. 1:47:07.600 --> 1:47:09.719 But this was so fun, Britt, thank you for taking 1:47:09.760 --> 1:47:11.880 the time. We can't wait to see what else you're doing. 1:47:12.280 --> 1:47:14.599 Uh coming up, You're gonna be killing it. I'm sure 1:47:14.640 --> 1:47:15.679 it's something very soon. 1:47:16.080 --> 1:47:19.479 And I can't wait to then watch True Blood and 1:47:19.520 --> 1:47:21.120 then rich be obsessed. 1:47:21.680 --> 1:47:22.920 You know, years ago watch I. 1:47:22.880 --> 1:47:25.840 Would I would die. I'm curious. I feel like you'll 1:47:25.960 --> 1:47:26.240 like it. 1:47:26.280 --> 1:47:33.160 I like it, Transylvania, So why wouldn't I like you? 1:47:33.920 --> 1:47:35.919 They're so similar, They're so similar. 1:47:37.439 --> 1:47:39.200 This was really fun. Thank you for having me. I 1:47:39.280 --> 1:47:40.519 love I love this kind of thing. 1:47:40.760 --> 1:47:42.240 Yeah, of course, thank you. 1:47:46.439 --> 1:47:51.799 Oh she was a treat one more time from Britt. 1:47:51.920 --> 1:47:54.160 But that was really fun. It's fun to talk to 1:47:54.200 --> 1:47:57.600 somebody who is like really the focus of the entire episode. 1:47:57.800 --> 1:47:59.760 And uh, she had a lot of work to do, 1:47:59.840 --> 1:48:02.040 and I had to do varied things. Like it wasn't 1:48:02.080 --> 1:48:04.840 just courtroom. It was I'm gonna get naked in a courtroom. Yeah, 1:48:05.000 --> 1:48:07.080 it wasn't just you're visiting my house. It's like, here's 1:48:07.080 --> 1:48:10.160 a room of figurines of me. So like she really 1:48:10.280 --> 1:48:14.320 got to do a lot of different locations and varied 1:48:14.360 --> 1:48:16.400 acting and crushed it and was cool. 1:48:16.520 --> 1:48:16.680 Yeah. 1:48:16.680 --> 1:48:18.680 I mean in the Courtroom Hall of Fame, there's like 1:48:18.720 --> 1:48:20.800 the guy who stands up with the boner, there's this 1:48:21.080 --> 1:48:22.439 woman taking off her top. 1:48:22.640 --> 1:48:23.880 She's right, she's right up there. 1:48:23.920 --> 1:48:26.840 She's in the top courtroom performances we've seen on the show. 1:48:26.920 --> 1:48:28.320 So loved that. 1:48:28.560 --> 1:48:30.760 Yeah, well, if we're talking about yeah, I would say 1:48:30.760 --> 1:48:32.320 I would throw a whoopee into that one. 1:48:32.880 --> 1:48:33.320 Mm hmmm. 1:48:33.840 --> 1:48:36.599 And I would uh throw that last one we did 1:48:36.640 --> 1:48:37.719 about the cam girl. 1:48:38.000 --> 1:48:40.200 Oh yeah, the cam I mean that was an iconic 1:48:40.240 --> 1:48:44.200 one too, because that's like COVID with like weird plastic screens. 1:48:44.640 --> 1:48:48.160 We should just make like top ten iconic courtroom moments. 1:48:48.400 --> 1:48:49.479 Make a little list. 1:48:50.000 --> 1:48:51.000 I think we should. 1:48:51.760 --> 1:48:55.000 Yeah, we'll do it, even though I'm having a heart 1:48:55.000 --> 1:48:57.280 to Yeah the little kid people admitting it on the stand. 1:48:57.479 --> 1:49:00.680 Yeah, God, the show is good. Have we covered that 1:49:00.680 --> 1:49:01.400 that we love it? 1:49:01.560 --> 1:49:04.040 I mean people that go and attack like they're the 1:49:04.080 --> 1:49:07.280 defense attorney or the prosecutor with like a pencil or whatever, like, 1:49:07.320 --> 1:49:09.320 doesn't Careesi get a bloody ear at one point. 1:49:09.560 --> 1:49:11.479 There's a lot, there's a lot of good courtroom shit. 1:49:11.760 --> 1:49:11.800 Ugh. 1:49:12.040 --> 1:49:16.439 Someone stabbing in the ear is so hard to think about. Ah, yeah, 1:49:16.720 --> 1:49:18.360 I don't like that. Are people that end up like 1:49:18.400 --> 1:49:20.160 having headaches and then they look in and there's like 1:49:20.160 --> 1:49:20.679 a bug. 1:49:20.520 --> 1:49:23.400 In their ear? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, nope, nope, nope. 1:49:23.479 --> 1:49:25.479 You know that happened on Survivor ones. Oh my god, 1:49:25.520 --> 1:49:25.840 I can't. 1:49:25.880 --> 1:49:27.840 But she didn't want to leave the game because she 1:49:27.880 --> 1:49:29.559 wanted to be on Survivor and she had a live 1:49:29.600 --> 1:49:30.240 thing in her ear. 1:49:30.600 --> 1:49:33.080 Oh my god, Like that is that is? 1:49:33.080 --> 1:49:33.200 Like? 1:49:33.280 --> 1:49:34.920 So I can't. I don't even think I can. I 1:49:34.920 --> 1:49:36.000 know you told me to stop. 1:49:36.000 --> 1:49:41.120 I don't know why I continued, but uh. 1:49:39.360 --> 1:49:41.479 So that's a thing for you. Yeah, like I'm not 1:49:41.520 --> 1:49:43.280 even that scared of bugs. I just don't want them 1:49:43.439 --> 1:49:45.839 in my boty, you know what I mean, Like anywhere 1:49:45.880 --> 1:49:48.000 any orifice and an ear would be one of them. 1:49:48.520 --> 1:49:51.080 Well, okay, let's do post mortem of the episode. 1:49:51.280 --> 1:49:54.599 Listen, just because a gal likes to get dressed up 1:49:55.040 --> 1:49:58.920 and go into town, going to New York City, doesn't 1:49:58.920 --> 1:50:01.280 mean you can, im I mean, just because you're paying 1:50:01.320 --> 1:50:02.960 someone for sex doesn't mean you can do whatever the 1:50:03.000 --> 1:50:03.639 fuck you want. 1:50:03.640 --> 1:50:04.719 That guy was a nightmare. 1:50:05.040 --> 1:50:08.000 Yeah, like I mean, it's not it's like the whole thing, Well, 1:50:08.000 --> 1:50:09.240 I paid for it. It's like, yeah, but you pay 1:50:09.280 --> 1:50:10.800 for lots of things, you can't do it, you know 1:50:10.840 --> 1:50:12.840 what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I pay for an uber. 1:50:12.840 --> 1:50:14.280 I can't punch him in the back of the head. 1:50:14.720 --> 1:50:14.920 Right. 1:50:15.280 --> 1:50:18.360 Well, it's dehumanization and the devaluing of these people, Like 1:50:18.360 --> 1:50:21.559 people don't look at sex workers as people or if 1:50:21.600 --> 1:50:22.400 you're a hoe at all. 1:50:22.439 --> 1:50:26.240 Certainly not that man. No, No, who's the guy that sucks? 1:50:26.280 --> 1:50:29.240 Andrew Tait has a brother, I guess, oh god, there's 1:50:29.240 --> 1:50:30.400 two of them. Yeah. 1:50:30.439 --> 1:50:32.559 So, you know, I listened to some of my porn pods, 1:50:32.760 --> 1:50:35.799 I watched some clips, and so there was a girl 1:50:35.840 --> 1:50:38.960 on it who flew out to meet up with him, 1:50:39.080 --> 1:50:41.800 like he messaged her and she was like, yeah, he 1:50:41.840 --> 1:50:43.720 flew me out to Dubai and it's like to be 1:50:43.760 --> 1:50:47.320 flown out to Dubai. I just I you know, but whatever. Yeah, 1:50:47.360 --> 1:50:49.120 so she goes, yeah, I saw his paige. She had 1:50:49.160 --> 1:50:51.200 cute cars, so I thought he was cute. So I 1:50:51.240 --> 1:50:53.360 went and then they asked how was the sex, and 1:50:53.360 --> 1:50:57.479 she went rough oh, And it's like, yeah, like why 1:50:57.520 --> 1:51:01.479 would you go have said like a human trafficking brother, 1:51:01.600 --> 1:51:06.120 I just don't understand. Well, like you're so hot and 1:51:06.160 --> 1:51:08.840 you're making money here, Like why I don't get it. 1:51:09.640 --> 1:51:11.679 Yeah, that sounds terrible. 1:51:11.920 --> 1:51:14.519 Again, the weight of the world is huge, and thank 1:51:14.560 --> 1:51:16.360 god for little trinkets and treats so. 1:51:16.280 --> 1:51:18.240 We could have ease. 1:51:18.360 --> 1:51:21.360 And I guess we're lucky to have the ease because 1:51:21.360 --> 1:51:24.320 so many people do not and are deep in a 1:51:24.320 --> 1:51:25.040 lot of stuff. 1:51:25.080 --> 1:51:27.840 So are we pro or for manager husbands? 1:51:28.320 --> 1:51:30.320 I mean, in the end, I think it's good that 1:51:30.439 --> 1:51:33.160 he lets her like address her mental health and like 1:51:33.320 --> 1:51:36.880 walk away from sports, because it's like she cannot do both. 1:51:36.960 --> 1:51:40.920 But I think that he was ignoring a very clear 1:51:40.960 --> 1:51:43.479 mental health problem for a long time, so that he 1:51:43.520 --> 1:51:47.519 could she could just be successful, you know, so I 1:51:47.560 --> 1:51:51.559 think bad but maybe moving his way towards the good column. Yeah, 1:51:51.560 --> 1:51:54.040 it's like people just I don't know, it's the same 1:51:54.120 --> 1:51:57.200 with I'm sure like actors and singers, but like athletes, 1:51:57.240 --> 1:52:00.200 you know, just thinking that these people are perfect and 1:52:00.240 --> 1:52:02.760 have no problems, or like that they can that you 1:52:02.800 --> 1:52:04.760 could do anything to push through pressure. It's like you 1:52:04.760 --> 1:52:08.360 can't push through a mental illness. You know, you could try, 1:52:08.600 --> 1:52:11.640 You could try for decades. Yeah, you could try. But 1:52:12.760 --> 1:52:15.800 I think they handled it pretty well. How like they 1:52:15.800 --> 1:52:17.960 handled the true story pretty well too. I feel like 1:52:18.520 --> 1:52:19.679 the true story's wild. 1:52:20.560 --> 1:52:21.519 Yeah, you know. 1:52:22.600 --> 1:52:24.960 Yeah, when I watched this episode live when it first 1:52:24.960 --> 1:52:26.479 came out, I had no idea it was based on 1:52:26.520 --> 1:52:27.000 a real thing. 1:52:27.600 --> 1:52:27.880 Yeah. 1:52:27.920 --> 1:52:31.760 I mean she was cool, Like it's kind of badass 1:52:31.800 --> 1:52:34.080 to like race all day, get on a flight and 1:52:34.120 --> 1:52:35.960 have five clients in Vegas. 1:52:36.200 --> 1:52:38.360 Yeah, can you imagine how strong you have to be? 1:52:38.479 --> 1:52:41.800 I thought that she was doing it after she was 1:52:41.840 --> 1:52:44.800 done running professionally, but now ye're wrong. 1:52:45.400 --> 1:52:48.000 No, she went straight from a meet, got on a 1:52:48.000 --> 1:52:50.880 flight and went and took and had five clients. 1:52:51.439 --> 1:52:53.280 Oh wow, I thought it was like just when she 1:52:53.320 --> 1:52:56.880 became a realtor and things were off the table athletically. Wow, 1:52:57.560 --> 1:53:01.200 that's endurance, you know, That's. 1:53:01.840 --> 1:53:02.400 That's what I mean. 1:53:02.479 --> 1:53:05.200 These athletes they're good because I always think about well 1:53:05.200 --> 1:53:09.000 not always just now, like is Travis tired after the 1:53:09.080 --> 1:53:11.920 game or does he just have more energy? 1:53:12.600 --> 1:53:13.120 I don't know. 1:53:13.240 --> 1:53:16.200 Yeah, like I'm sure exhausted. But then if you, like one, 1:53:16.439 --> 1:53:18.200 isn't there adrenaline and you want to and you. 1:53:18.240 --> 1:53:19.519 Gotta get ready for the next game. 1:53:19.680 --> 1:53:23.679 Like it's such a wild existence, it really is. 1:53:23.920 --> 1:53:24.960 I just started going back to. 1:53:25.040 --> 1:53:28.960 Soul cycle, and there was like the first few times 1:53:29.000 --> 1:53:32.080 I had I was so beat and I was like, oh, yeah, 1:53:32.120 --> 1:53:32.840 you forget that. 1:53:32.960 --> 1:53:35.080 You do get tired after you do stuff. 1:53:35.400 --> 1:53:38.920 I mean, my legs just came back online. It's today's Wednesday. 1:53:39.000 --> 1:53:41.120 I worked out on Friday, and my legs like just 1:53:41.160 --> 1:53:45.320 today don't hurt. Like it's like it's very I don't 1:53:45.320 --> 1:53:48.799 have the constitution of an athlete, that is absolutely for sure. 1:53:48.840 --> 1:53:53.320 Like I don't have the discipline or really any of it, 1:53:53.400 --> 1:53:59.040 the physical ability, the care, the passion, yeah, the drive, 1:53:59.160 --> 1:54:01.400 the interest, any of it's just it's not there for me. 1:54:01.800 --> 1:54:04.680 And I can honestly say that about any sport I've 1:54:04.680 --> 1:54:06.880 ever played. I was always like I'm doing this because 1:54:06.880 --> 1:54:08.639 this is what everybody does, Like any sport. 1:54:08.760 --> 1:54:09.919 I played lacrosse. 1:54:09.960 --> 1:54:13.240 I really liked lacrosse, but I was never like this rules, 1:54:13.320 --> 1:54:14.599 I'm having the best time. 1:54:14.680 --> 1:54:15.120 I don't know. 1:54:15.240 --> 1:54:16.880 It was like everybody plays sports, and I have to 1:54:16.880 --> 1:54:18.640 play sports, so if I'm going to play one, this 1:54:18.680 --> 1:54:19.240 one's fine. 1:54:19.400 --> 1:54:21.280 You know your mom made you play sports. 1:54:21.760 --> 1:54:24.320 I'm kind of shocked, like she didn't like make me, 1:54:24.400 --> 1:54:26.439 but it was like everybody was doing it, so it 1:54:26.479 --> 1:54:27.599 was like, what sport are you gonna do? 1:54:27.760 --> 1:54:28.320 Yeah, you know. 1:54:28.360 --> 1:54:29.960 It wasn't like she was like you have to, but 1:54:30.080 --> 1:54:33.640 like everybody was doing one. It's like I loved horseback riding, 1:54:34.080 --> 1:54:36.440 but she made you play piano, so who knows, Yeah 1:54:36.480 --> 1:54:38.920 she did and then I quit. Maybe she forced, you know, 1:54:38.960 --> 1:54:41.600 field hockey down your throat. Who knows, no, no, no. 1:54:41.920 --> 1:54:44.920 People thought I'd be good at basketball because I'm tall. Nope, terrible. 1:54:45.240 --> 1:54:47.840 Carmen Lynch has the funniest joke because she's so tall. 1:54:47.840 --> 1:54:50.040 People always like you're so tall, you should be a model, 1:54:50.080 --> 1:54:55.080 and she's like, how about my face? Like it's like 1:54:55.280 --> 1:54:58.280 half the compliment, like there's another part that belongs to 1:54:58.320 --> 1:54:58.880 being a model. 1:55:00.240 --> 1:55:02.000 Yeah. Oh but if you all. 1:55:01.920 --> 1:55:03.920 Want to know, I am doing the Britney Spears Soul 1:55:03.960 --> 1:55:07.560 Cycle Ride today, so you know I'm counting down the minutes. 1:55:07.840 --> 1:55:10.600 Britt Morgan, Britney Spears a lot of Brits in your 1:55:10.640 --> 1:55:11.280 life today. 1:55:11.520 --> 1:55:11.760 Love that? 1:55:11.840 --> 1:55:16.960 Wait, did you see Dan Polyac shake Hule's partner did so? 1:55:17.920 --> 1:55:22.040 He actually just did He did our all of our tour, He. 1:55:22.040 --> 1:55:23.840 Did all of our tour art for the Anywhere but 1:55:23.960 --> 1:55:26.640 Hudson tour that we did, and he's he's. 1:55:26.720 --> 1:55:28.320 Did my most recent artwork. 1:55:28.360 --> 1:55:32.160 And he just designed the twenty fifth year anniversary Hit 1:55:32.200 --> 1:55:36.720 Me Baby One More Time Britney Spears capsule collection. There's shorts, necklaces, 1:55:36.800 --> 1:55:39.960 tank top, sweatshirts. He designed the whole collection and it's official. Yeah, 1:55:40.000 --> 1:55:43.280 Britney Spears dot fucking calm. So that was really That's 1:55:43.320 --> 1:55:43.760 so cool. 1:55:44.200 --> 1:55:51.000 Yeah. Yeah, he's very talented. He's the best beautiful eyebrows too. Yeah. Well, 1:55:51.000 --> 1:55:53.920 I'm glad we could shout out our buddy Dan. Let's 1:55:53.920 --> 1:55:55.280 move on to what would Sister Peg do? 1:55:55.520 --> 1:55:58.200 This is our weekly segment where we direct you tour 1:55:58.360 --> 1:56:02.680 an organization a book, blog post, a blog post something 1:56:02.800 --> 1:56:04.960 to give you more information about what we talked about today. 1:56:05.080 --> 1:56:07.160 And this week we wanted to highlight the Depression and 1:56:07.200 --> 1:56:11.600 Bipolar Support Alliance the DBSA. 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