1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Your holster is way more important than you think it is. 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: It's just way more important than you think it is. 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: What look, and I get that the holsters not the 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: sexy part of carrying firearms. All right, You want to 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: talk about your weapon and your ammunition. You want to 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: talk about your safety training. You want to talk about 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: how you did at the range. Oh, look at my groups. 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: I was doing these failure drills today, and all that 9 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: stuff is really important. I mean, really really important. I'm 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: not discounting that, but I've known so many people who 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: do all those things. They take all the necessary steps 12 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: and then they carry with a holster they bought from 13 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: a big box hunting store that was made a thousand 14 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: at a time. Please don't put your life in one 15 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: of those holsters. You need to trust Northwest Retention Systems 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: because it's all custom made gear. It's the only thing 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: I carry around NW Retention dot Com. That's NW Retention 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: dot Com used to promo co Jesse gets you ten 19 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: percent off. This is a Jesse Kelly show. Have you 20 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: ever thought about what it would be like to be crucified? 21 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: But we talk about crucifixion so much as part of 22 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: our society, But it's always you know, in relation relation 23 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: to Jesus. Jesus, isn't it. Jesus died on the cross. 24 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: Chris's people kill Jesus. You know that kind of thing. 25 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: But we never we never discussed it in depth. You 26 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: got a church on Sunday. Probably if you don't, you've 27 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: drive by them, certainly, big cross out front, cross here, 28 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: across there, Chris, how many places you see across They're everywhere. 29 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: It's become part of our society where Judeo Christian culture 30 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: it's it's everywhere you see it. But how often have 31 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: you actually thought about it? Oh? Yeah, you'll get the 32 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: nails and that's But do you understand what's happening there? 33 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: Do you understand why it's thought to be one of, 34 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: if not the worst ways to die in the history 35 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: of mankind? Why even the Romans, famous famous for their 36 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: harshness and cruelty, did not did not just hand that 37 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: out for anything. It was a big deal if you 38 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: got crucified. Even for the Romans, it was all, ooh 39 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: that's a I mean, has it come to that? Tell 40 00:02:55,400 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: you what? We'll come back to that Thrace. Thrace is 41 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: a place that gets almost no publicity historically, And it's 42 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: weird when you talk about Greece, ancient Greece, what do 43 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: you talk about. Let's everybody talk about Chris. What's ancient Greece? 44 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: Sparta in Athens, it's all anybody knows, Sparta and Athens. 45 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: But Greece was more than Sparta. In Athens there was 46 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: a place called Thrace. Now, it's funny the Greeks people 47 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: in Athens shoot even people in Sparta. They thought the 48 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: Thracians were barbarians. How hilarious is that the Thracians did 49 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: not fight like a like a Spartan fought in that phalanx. 50 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: Formation of phalanx, if you don't know, is a big 51 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: square of troops. You've seen the movie three hundred. That's 52 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: a phalanx, a big square, shields in front, spears sticking out, 53 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: virtually impenetrable from the front. Now, there are some major 54 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: limitations for it. If you get around behind them, it's 55 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: in some trouble. If you're on anything other than relatively 56 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: flat ground, it's in some trouble. But charging it from 57 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: the front suicide. That was the way people fought back then, 58 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: especially in Greece. Greeks fought in a phalanx, not the Thracians. 59 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: The Thracians were wild people. They fought with a spear 60 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: and a shield, but there was no phalanx. It was 61 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: loose formations, individual combat. They were guerrilla fighters, ambush, hit 62 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: and run and very very very very good at it, 63 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: and I mean very good at it. They were feared. 64 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: They were fearsome people. Now, oh oh, a quick side note. 65 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: You want to know how fearsome they were. It's a 66 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: cool story. The Thracians would, as a display of manliness, 67 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: tie a vine or rope, depending on what you read 68 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: about it, around their neck. A Thracian man would tie 69 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: a rope around his neck, stand on a rock. He 70 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: would have a sword in his hand, a little short sword, 71 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: and in front of everybody, he would have somebody kick 72 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: the rock out from underneath him. So he's hanging from 73 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: his neck and he had to have the presence of 74 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: mind and skill to cut through the vine or rope 75 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,559 Speaker 1: before he dies. And they didn't save him. You cut 76 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: through it or you're gone, and everybody's gonna sit and watch. 77 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: That's a hardcore man, severely hardcore. Well, along come the Romans. 78 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: You see, the Greek era has ended. The Romans are rising. 79 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: Go ahead and call this one hundred years before Christ. 80 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: The Romans are really rising at this point in time, expanding, 81 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: seizing territory, and they seize thrace. Now what I say sees. 82 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: Remember Romans didn't necessarily come in, kick down the door 83 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: righte Rome Part two on the city walls and just 84 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: make everything Roman. That's not how they operated. For the 85 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: most part, Romans, as many gigantic empires in history, did 86 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: they kind of let you do your thing. No, you 87 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: can you do you We're not here to take over. 88 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 1: We need two things from you. We need troops whenever 89 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: we ask for them, and we need taxes. Beyond that, 90 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: you worship whatever gods you want. Obviously, we're gonna leave 91 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: a Roman governor here and he's gonna keep an eye 92 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: on things, and I would highly suggest you do every 93 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: single thing he says, or we'll come back here and 94 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: kill you all. But for the most part, you do you. 95 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: It was Obviously there are some major, major exceptions to 96 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: this because of how many rebellions they had. But remember 97 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of people enjoyed being 98 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: part of Rome, even once who didn't want to get conquered, 99 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: and they fought, and they came in and they were like, 100 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: this is not bad. And remember it's really not bad 101 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: on some levels, depending on what you want out of life. 102 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: Imagine you're a Thracian tribe, because Thrace wasn't one unified place. 103 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: Imagine you're a Thracian tribe. Well, the tribes are always 104 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: fighting each other, as most tribal people do, and all 105 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: of a sudden, your tribe gets taken over by the Romans. Yes, 106 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: some of your dudes had to die, and yeah, we 107 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: lost some of the women and children to slavery. Their 108 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: life's probably not ideal right now. At the same time, 109 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: guess who hasn't been attacked in a long long time, 110 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,679 Speaker 1: because I got big Daddy Rome standing behind me. Guess 111 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: who's under no danger whatsoever of ever being attacked again. 112 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: Romans are here. So we like to because this is 113 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: how we teach history in an absurdly wrong way. We 114 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: like to pretend as if every old conqueror, every conqueror, 115 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: was an evil murderer, every explorer, you know, Christopher Columbus 116 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: will get to all that nonsense later, Every explorer was 117 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: an evil murder rapist. That's a very, very very modern 118 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: way of viewing those things. The good guy and bad 119 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: guy now and always really is determined by your point 120 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: of view, Really is determined by which side of it 121 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: you're on. Most of the time it was how often 122 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: do we talk about Genghis Khan? Did he kill forty 123 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: million people? Yep? Did, absolutely did not have a lot 124 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: of regard for human life. Did he take an area 125 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: that was insanely wild and dangerous and ripped up and 126 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: disorganized and make it and absurdly safe, clean place to live, 127 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: religiously tolerant place to live. Yeah, he did. Again, everything's 128 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: a matter of perspective, isn't it. Back to Thrace and 129 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: the Romans. So the Romans come in, they conquer Thrace. 130 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: There are fights. Obviously, these Thracian people were not the 131 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: type of people who are just gonna say, oh, just 132 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: come on in. You know, we didn't like it anyway, 133 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: So they fought. They lost like everybody else loses. In 134 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: the Romans did what Romans do in. Romans took the 135 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: great parts of Thrace they needed. Not only were the 136 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: Thracians great guerrilla fighters, they were great on horseback, and 137 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: Romans were outstanding it identifying their own deficiencies and finding 138 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: ways to supplement them and one of those deficiencies. Will 139 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: I'll explain in the second. Is he smarter than everyone 140 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: who knows? Does he think so? Yeah? That Jesse Kelly 141 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: Shaw Express VPN. 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You care about your own personal security 145 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: and the security of your family and all that is wonderful. 146 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: And then you sit down when the day is done, 147 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: you get on your phone on the internet, your kids 148 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: get on their little pad, you get on your laptop, 149 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: you do any one of a million different things, and 150 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: all those door locks, all those lights on on the outside, 151 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: you just left a huge gap in your family's safety 152 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: when you're online. 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It's amazing how some societies just 162 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: can't ever get something right, whatever it is, they can't 163 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: do it. Romans sucked on horseback. They just could never 164 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: get the whole cavalry thing right. They couldn't. And to 165 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: their credit, again they knew it. Remember Julius Caesar, he 166 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: came just a little after this time. Prayer were about 167 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: to talk about. Remember Julius Caesar in Gaul. One of 168 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: the most important things he ever had was the German cavalry. Guys. 169 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: He didn't have good horsemen. Romans didn't. Romans had. Look, 170 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: if you had to pick one thing to have back 171 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: in the day, if you could pick one part of 172 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: your military to be great, you would pick what the 173 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:45,479 Speaker 1: Romans had, and that was heavy, heavy infantry, armored, shielded, trained, disciplined, dominant, 174 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: virtually impregnant. You know, nobody wants to have just the 175 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: best archers and you're gonna get mowed down. And the 176 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: Thracians had great horsemen. So the Romans said, oh, we're 177 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: gonna take some of those, thank you. Yeah, we'll have 178 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: this many. Oh we're gonna take some slaves too, And 179 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: one young man fairly accomplished, if you believe the history 180 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: books in Thrace. His name was Spartacus. Now I'm sure 181 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: Spartacus was not his Thracian name. Clearly Spartacus is something 182 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: the Romans came up with him. We'll get to why 183 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: here in just a moment. They take him in and 184 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: he serves under the Romans in the Roman army. Spartacus 185 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: is a bit of a rebel and he deserts. Now 186 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: what's weird is you would think a deserter in the 187 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: Roman army would instantly be killed. I would think so too. 188 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: But now we need to have a little side discussion 189 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: about slavery. No, don't worry, don't change the channel. I'm 190 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: not going all this modern American crap for you today. 191 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm talking about slavery in the ancient world, not America 192 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: or anywhere else. Slavery, well, that is the history of 193 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: the world. You get it in this modern era, right, 194 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: this modern era of no slaves, which is obviously good. 195 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: We certainly don't want to go back to that, but 196 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: obviously good. This modern era of no slaves is absolutely 197 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: the exception in the history of mankind. Not the rule. 198 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: You can look back on all these countries and at 199 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: one point or another they had slaves, even when they 200 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily call them slaves. Read your Bible, it's all 201 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: through there. Read the Quran. If that's your things, all 202 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: through there, Chris, what do you people read the Torah? 203 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure they talk about it in there. I don't know. 204 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: All these historical books will talk about it. It is 205 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: part of the human existence. But you have to understand 206 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: it was big, big business in Roman times. Now, I 207 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: assume throughout history it was big business all the time. 208 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: I know several societies where it was big business. I 209 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: just don't want to say that was universal. For all 210 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: I know, there were a bunch of societies that didn't 211 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: believe in selling them. They just gave them away. But 212 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: in Roman times, a human being a slave wasn't a 213 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: human being. It was money, a lot of it. And 214 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: I mean, look, we're talking about the past. Let's just 215 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: talk about human labor that you can make do what 216 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: you want. As a brief side note, as we bring 217 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: it to modern times, you realize Los Zetas, all the 218 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: cartels we talk about in Mexico, there are cartels down 219 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: there like the Zetas, who don't really deal in drugs. 220 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: Does that weird you out? It's fact they deal in 221 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: human trafficking. Now, I want you to consider that. Think 222 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: about the absurd amount of money that's in drugs. That's 223 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: why so many people do it. The money's absurd. Now, 224 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: think about having another funding source that's so lucrative. You 225 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: can look at drugs and just say no, I don't 226 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: think we're going to get in that game, the human 227 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: smuggling game. Even now. Having a stable of people who 228 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: will do what you tell them is big, big money yesterday, 229 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: today and tomorrow. Ugly and horrendous as it is. And 230 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: so when Romans would capture a place, when they would 231 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: conquer a society, when they would lay waste, lay siege 232 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: to a city and then take it down, Romans were 233 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: not like Genghis Coln. Romans in general did not go 234 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: marching in there and kill everything that moved. And Genghis 235 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: Khan took tons of slaves too, but did not march 236 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: in there and kill everything that moved. Why because it 237 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: would essentially be like walking in there grabbing stacks of 238 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: hundred dollars bills and instead of putting them in your 239 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: pouch lighting them on fire. They did not look at 240 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: humans that way. Obviously, they killed plenty of people, but 241 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: they killed as many as they needed to kill until 242 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: you all got the message. The rest of you are money, 243 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: and we're in an era where the troops definitely the 244 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: generals the heads of the army, but the troops as 245 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: well made a lot of money doing what they did. 246 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: If you got to seize the right place and conquer 247 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: the right place, it wasn't only the general. Oh we 248 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: got we got ten thousand slaves. Those are all for me. 249 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: No generals. Caesar is one of the main ones. But 250 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: generals were famous throughout Rome for handing out slaves to 251 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: their men. Now, I'm sure some of those men took 252 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: those slaves and just made them slaves, but a lot 253 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: of those men took those slaves right down to the 254 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: local grocery store and sold them for a fortune. Slaves 255 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: were huge, huge money, Which brings me back to Spartacus 256 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: escaping a rooman army getting captured. Why not just kill him? Well, 257 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: do you remember how I just got done telling you 258 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: that slaves were big money. You know, it was even 259 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: bigger money than a slave, a slave who could fight 260 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: because Romans were absolutely obsessed with gladiatorial combat. It did 261 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: not start out that way. I believe it was the 262 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: third century BC. It started out as just funeral games. 263 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: But eventually, you know, you've seen the movie Gladiator. I 264 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: don't have to describe it for you. That was not 265 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: that was not a Hollywood depiction of it. They loved it. 266 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: And just like in the movie, the Colosseum was the 267 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: big stage, the big cheese. It's where the big star 268 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: gladiators went. And there were tiny, crappy gladiator arenas all 269 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: over the Roman Empire, dirty little seedy ones, working your 270 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: way up to the big ones. And if you had 271 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: a slave who could fight, and you chose to make 272 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: him a gladiator, if you ran I believe it was 273 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: called a ludus, a gladiatorial school, and you got the 274 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: right slave who could fight, you could make a fortune 275 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: on a gladiator who could fight. Now, the gladiator life 276 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: was rough sometimes, though it wasn't bad. Hang on, eb 277 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: sleep has completely changed things for me. When I don't sleep, 278 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: I'm a miserable human being. And I know far too 279 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: many of you know exactly what I'm talking about. I don't. 280 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: I don't function the same way my mind doesn't work right. 281 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: I can't even talk right. I'm just bad. I'm a 282 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: worse parent, I'm a worse spouse, I'm worse at work. 283 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: I'm just bad. And then contrast that with when I 284 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: get a great night's sleep, it changes everything for me. 285 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: And I know when you're not sleeping, you're desperate to sleep. 286 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: So you go searching for a million different options, and 287 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: what do we always end up doing, all of us 288 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: At some point in time. You always end up finding 289 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: that bottle of sleeping pills. Wow, it's just one prescription, right, 290 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: and then it turns into two or three. Just get 291 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: an EBB sleep and change it all for good. Go 292 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: to triebb dot com slash jesse. That's try ebb dot 293 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: com slash jesse. Use their promo code jesse at checkout 294 00:22:44,400 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: twenty five bucks off. Gladiators are a little misunderstood, which 295 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: is funny because we're so fascinated with him, and you see, 296 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: they're always just depicted as slaves, and to be honest, 297 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: for the most part, they were. But I'll get to 298 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: why that wasn't always the case here in a second. 299 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:28,239 Speaker 1: You see, gladiator life was very hard life. Yes, you 300 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: went to what you would call an athletic training center, 301 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: and that's how you lived. You woke up and you trained, 302 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: and it was a lot more than just tossing the 303 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: guy a wooden stick and slapping him around. It was 304 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 1: advanced training because you made your money as the owner 305 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: of gladiators when your gladiators went into the ring and 306 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: performed very, very well. It was more than just physical training. 307 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: But they were fanatical about their diets. They were fanatical 308 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: about giving them as much of a personality as they could. 309 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: You need to think about it as part part UFC, 310 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: with weapons, part professional wrestling. You made your money as 311 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: a gladiator, not just by the winds. You made your 312 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: money again, like the movie said, if the crowd loved 313 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: you or hated you. Being a heel was big money too, 314 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: just like in professional wrestling. Oh I hate him. Now 315 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: there's a drawback to all this. You absolutely could die. 316 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: The other guy was trying to kill you, and in 317 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: some cases not other guy. I know that. You know 318 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: animals were killed in gladiatorial combat, but you need to 319 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: understand a gladiator, unlike the movie, didn't fight everyone all 320 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: the time in a million different ways. A gladiator had 321 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: a specialty. This guy has this specialty or this guy 322 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: has that specialty. One of the most famous gladiers, I 323 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: believe his name was Hermes. It's the real guy who existed. 324 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: He had He was famous because he had three different specialties. 325 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: You know. He could he could have the trident, he 326 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: could have the little sword, he could glad which they 327 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: called it Gladius. There were gladiators who had very very 328 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: very short life expectancies. And while this is horrible and cruel, 329 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: it's still kind of awesome. And they were the guys 330 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: who fought the animals. Now imagine that. And I don't 331 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: mean just a cheetah, although they fought cheetahs too, and 332 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: I don't just mean the lions, which would be Have 333 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: you ever seen a lion? What's the closest you've ever 334 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: been to a lion? CLIs of Chris. Have you ever 335 00:25:55,119 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: seen a lion? There's something about getting up to one. 336 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: They're so big. They're just big. The head is way 337 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: bigger than you think. They're just horrifying. Now imagine, here's 338 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 1: a shield and a spear. There's a gigantic, five hundred 339 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: pound lion running at you full speed. Only one of 340 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: you is walking out of there alive. Oh but wait, 341 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: they made them fight angry rhinos, two rhinos with a spear. 342 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: Needless to say, the gladiators who specialized in fighting animals 343 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: did not tend to live as long as the other 344 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: gladiators who fought other people. Plus, understand, when you fight 345 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: other people, if you get to a point where you 346 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: have acquitted yourself well, but you get wounded and can't continue, 347 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: there's a good chance the crowd or the emperor, depending 348 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: on whose present. Sometimes if there was no reminds you 349 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: what it's not again, not just like the movies. If 350 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: there's no emperor, oftentimes the crowd would decide whether you 351 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: lived or died. And it was not. I it was bloodthirsty, 352 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: it was terrible. I'm not defending it. But don't don't 353 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: think everybody there wanted everyone to die. They if they 354 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: they loved you. If you put on a good show, 355 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: they wanted a good show, and you lost, you'd likely 356 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: be carried out of there and carried out of there 357 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: to cheers. Plus, it is extremely costly to kill a gladiator. 358 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: If your gladiator dies, because the emperor or the guy 359 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: who's putting on the games says at the end of 360 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: the fight, okay, kill him. Then that guy owed you 361 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: money for your gladiator, a lot of it, so he 362 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily inclined to just say kill him all. But 363 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: if you go out there and put on a bad performance, 364 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,479 Speaker 1: the crowd may be mad they kill you for it, 365 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: so they bring in mister Spartacus. Oh and did I 366 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: mention the women. They were still slaves, mind you gladiators, 367 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: but they were a celebrity today, a rock star, a 368 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: professional athlete, as in, women threw themselves at them. High 369 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: society women would rent them for the night. Is probably 370 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: the best way I could probably put that. For a 371 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: PG radio show. Obsessed they would sell their sweat as 372 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: an aphrodisiac. I'm not making that up. Disgusting, right, but 373 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: that's how popular they were at the same time. And 374 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: this is so funny. It's hard for us to relate. Honestly. 375 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: I've thought about this extensively over the past evening, and 376 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: I can't wrap my mind around it. They were thought 377 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: of as third class citizens. They put gladiators down where 378 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: they put prostitutes, pimps, and actors. I love that part. 379 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: Actors were thought to be embarrassingly third class citizens in 380 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: Roman society. It was considered a scandal that they love 381 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,479 Speaker 1: the theater. Mind you, they went to the theater all 382 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: the time, but it was considered a scandal if somebody 383 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: from upper class was caught speaking to an actor. They 384 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: were just thought of a third class citizen. Well, Chris, 385 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: Chris raises his hands. Why let's just go ahead and 386 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: make everybody mad, right now? I mean, were they wrong? 387 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: Look at I'm not trying to be mean, but look 388 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: at I mean, part of the reason everybody's so frustrated today, 389 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: especially on the right, as you look at all these 390 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: utter morons in Hollywood having these strong, almost always wrong 391 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,719 Speaker 1: political opinions, and people on the right like you and 392 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: I will scream and be like, why is that idiot? 393 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: Why is anyone even listened to that idiot? He's a moron? Well, yeah, 394 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: he is a moron, but it's not entirely his fault. 395 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: That skill sets. It takes a certain type of person 396 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: to be an actor, you know, a certain type of 397 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: person the way God made you. Only a certain type 398 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: of person can be an engineer, and almost universally an 399 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: engineer is going to have some personality quirks. I told 400 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: you I used to sell RVs. I could spot an 401 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: engineer a mile away. About five seconds into the conversation, 402 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: I would just ask people, let me guess you're an engineer. 403 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: Do you know the tensil strength of the lug nuts at? 404 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, here gonna be a long day. An engine 405 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: he can't help that. That's how his mind works. Gimmy 406 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: the details. How is this built? Do you know what 407 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: temperature the plastic is cooked at? What? What? No? What 408 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: this is? So? God makes you all a certain way. 409 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: Somebody with the skill set of an actor is not 410 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: somebody you want having a significant voice in your society. Now. 411 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you should treat them like third class citizens. 412 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: I'm not, but that is not a human being with 413 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: the skill set of leadership, of economic or social policy. 414 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: That is somebody who should get up on stage and 415 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: put on a little eye makeup and wow the crowd 416 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: and then scurry back off. And since the Romans weren't 417 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: this touchy feely society, we are, they just flat out 418 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: told him, Yeah, I'm no, you're not really going to 419 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: be allowed to move into this neighborhood. Love the play though, 420 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: love what you do anyway. Oh no, don't touch me, 421 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: don't no, don't touch me, and gladiators were thought of 422 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: as that low but again celebrities. And when I said 423 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: the life was bad, but only kind of bad. If 424 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: you were making your owner money as a gladiator, life 425 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: wasn't that bad. Yes, you trained hard, but you were 426 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: given plenty of things to make life a little easier. 427 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: Plenty of things to make life a little easier. And 428 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: remember this, they weren't all slaves. Because of the life 429 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: I just described to you, Freemen would sign up to 430 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: do this crazy right. Nevertheless, true, hang on to the 431 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: gladiator life, Spartacus, he's in a place called Capua. Now, 432 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: I actually don't know. Chris looked this up while I'm talking. 433 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: I guess I should do research for the show more often. 434 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if the city of Capua was still 435 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: exists or if they've renamed it something else. I'm assuming 436 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: because it was a city, then it's probably a city 437 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: of some kind. Now, what is it? It's c Apua, 438 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: you idiot? Is it there anyway? The reason I assume 439 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: it's still there is because old cities are generally still 440 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: around because they picked the location for the old city 441 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: for a reason. Usually it's water or strategic, and so 442 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: a new city wants to be there too. It's still there, Chris. 443 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: How far is it from Rome? I need you to 444 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: look that up for me real quick. I think it's 445 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: two hundred miles. That may not be right, though, But 446 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: in a place called Capua is where Spartacus, That's where 447 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: his lutus, his gladiator place was, his gladiator school was. 448 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: Spartacus wakes up one night. I'm just making that up. 449 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: I have no idea if this just curd him in 450 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: the middle of the night. I'm assuming this is something 451 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: he plotted for a long time. Decides the gladiator life 452 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: is not for him. Yes, he enjoyed selling off his 453 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: sweat in accompanying accompanying the Roman aristocratic women around, but 454 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think I want to stab other 455 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: people for a living anymore. He decides to have a breakout, 456 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: him and seventy people. Now, they did not break out 457 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: with all their gladiator swords and spears. Gladiators were still slaves, 458 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: mind you, and the owner of a lutus, they were 459 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: well aware. We not only have slaves here, we have 460 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: highly highly trained slaves here who are specialists in murdering 461 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: another human being. One that's even trying to murder them back. 462 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: Probably not ideal if we leave these slaves with real weapons, 463 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: so they're real weapons were almost always locked away. They 464 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 1: didn't train with the real weapons anyway. Let them train 465 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: with wooden ones, because yeah, we are not going to 466 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: risk that. So Spartacus actually breaks out with a bunch 467 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: of kitchen knives and stuff, not even making that up. 468 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 1: Lets you kitchen knives and stuff. He breaks out, takes off, 469 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:33,919 Speaker 1: acquires more slaves along the way. But remember Rome. Rome 470 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: has this thing, as most big nations do, where Romans don't. 471 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: They don't necessarily move very quickly. There are great advantages 472 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: to being a big, powerful bear. What are the disadvantages, though, 473 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 1: is you don't move like a mongoose. The same goes 474 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: for nations. Russia is famous for this. Militarily, at the 475 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: opening of any big conflict, Russia sucks. They're kind of inefficient, 476 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: and the roads suck, and it's disorganized, and almost always 477 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: their leadership that is corrupt and sucky, and they're gonna 478 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 1: get their teeth kicked in for about the first ninety 479 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: engagements and by then they'll have their act together and 480 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: oh this is wow. Now they're mad. Oh you see 481 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: this time and time again, We're actually no different. It's 482 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: part of the reason we have all these you know, 483 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: expeditionary I can't even speak right now, expeditionary forces. So 484 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: we have I mean, because we know we're slower, we're bigger, 485 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: we're slower, so we have Okay, well, who are our 486 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: shock troops? We got somebody always ready to go at 487 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: any moment, right, we know we have to do this. 488 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: Rome was no different. So Rome, here's about this slave breakout, 489 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: and Rome has to figure out how to deal with 490 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: this unrest. And what I mean by that is this, 491 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: how do you deal with civil unrest without panicking the public, 492 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: but while also putting down the civil unrest sounding familiar 493 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 1: at all, because it's easy to armshare quarterback in and say, well, 494 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: he just broke out seventy dudes. Okay, so he picked 495 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 1: up a thousand more, two thousand more, So just get 496 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 1: get two Roman legions. That's ten thousand men, march down 497 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 1: there and Martin murder them all. Okay, let's examine that 498 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: for a moment. That sounds like the right solution, right, 499 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: you have to pay that ten thousand men. What are 500 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: you saying to the rest of Rome about the significance 501 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: of this civil unrest. If you muster two legions and 502 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: march them down to Capua, you are sending a message 503 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,240 Speaker 1: to the rest of Rome that this is a big deal, 504 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 1: and this is you were in serious trouble, and we've 505 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: got to take this problem seriously. You see how complicated 506 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: it gets. Oh, you can do it with two legions. 507 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 1: We don't want it. It has to be the right proportion. 508 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: We have to do something. We can't do too much. 509 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: We can't complicated. Right again, things are complicated. So what 510 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: they did was tell me if this sounds familiar. They 511 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: tried to have it both ways. They sent down a commander. 512 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: Globber was his name. I know, Chris, I know, it's 513 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: not a great name. Of all the historical names, it's 514 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: not Globber. I wonder if it was. I wonder if 515 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: that sounded as bad to the other Romans as it 516 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: does to us now. I wonder if he caught crap 517 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: for that, and someone go get Globber? What loser? Hang 518 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 1: on a second. So they do send a fairly capable 519 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: commander Globber down there, But they did that thing, that 520 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 1: thing people try to do. They didn't send him with 521 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 1: Roman legionnaires. They send him with the scraps. I send 522 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: him with an average force, the old, the crappy, some volunteers. Hey, hey, here, 523 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: here's a sword. We gotta go kill some slaves, right again, 524 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: trying to take care of the problem. I mean, you 525 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: got to put it down. Well, let's not. We don't 526 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: want to alarm anybody. We don't want to alarm anybody. 527 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: We're just gonna do this. We're gonna do this proportionally. 528 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: But here's the problem, and this can happen to anybody, 529 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: can happen in any society. The problem was simply this, 530 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 1: What if it's not just the little slave revolved? What 531 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,879 Speaker 1: if you have somebody significant on the other side of it, 532 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,720 Speaker 1: And what if you have something major on your hands 533 00:40:52,320 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: and you don't quite know it yet. Hang on the 534 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show. This is the Jesse Kelly Show. You 535 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: send down Glauber, You send down Glauber with three thousand 536 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: poorly trained romans because you're just gonna slap around a 537 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: few slaves. Well, Sparta Spartacus was up on Mount Vesuvius 538 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: at the time. Yes, that Mount Vesuvius. We're not going 539 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: to tell that story right now. At this time, Mount 540 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: Vesuvius is lush and green and a great place to hide. 541 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 1: So the Romans they find out where Spartacus is, they 542 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: realize there's only one way, one path to and from 543 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: where Spartacus is on this mountain, because the other side 544 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:27,399 Speaker 1: is a massive sheer cliff. And the Romans did what 545 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: Romans do very wisely. Well, we are rome Logistically, we 546 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: are fantastic. We're not going to run out of food 547 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: and water, certainly not in the middle of Italy. He's 548 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: the idiot stuck on the mountain. Let's wait here. I'm 549 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: not in any hurry to go anywhere, not in any 550 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: hurry to go charging up a single path fighting gladiators. Either. 551 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: Let's wait till they're nice and hungry, and we'll see 552 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: how she works out. No big deal, right, except again, 553 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 1: Understanding who you're facing is so critical. Understanding what you 554 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: are facing is so so critical in life at all times. 555 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:22,399 Speaker 1: You must be able to dispassionately examine your opponent at 556 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: all times, in war, in sports, in politics, and business, 557 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: in your personal life, dispassionately. It is so easy for 558 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,879 Speaker 1: us to do what Globber in the Romans did. That's 559 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: a slave. Let's be serious here, How long is it 560 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,800 Speaker 1: going to take us to kill a slave. This was 561 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: not any slave. We actually don't know the extent of 562 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: Spartacus's training from the Thracians or where he stood in 563 00:43:54,719 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: the Thracian hierarchy, hierarchy of society. But this dude was 564 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: a beast. You see, Spartacus, You're not gonna sit up 565 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: there and let you starve him out. Spartacus is well 566 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:14,479 Speaker 1: aware of what's happening. Spartacus has all of his men 567 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,839 Speaker 1: make gigantic ropes out of the grape vines on Vesuvius, 568 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: and in the middle of the night they repel down 569 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: the sheer cliff and sneak into Globber's camp and slaughter 570 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: the Romans and round them and take all their weapons. 571 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:39,439 Speaker 1: Like I said, you're not dealing with just some slave here. 572 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: You're dealing with somebody with capability. And I need to 573 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: do a brief pause there, because when it comes to slaves, 574 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 1: it's a funny deal. We like to imagine all of 575 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,280 Speaker 1: them in Roman times as you are bought as a slave. 576 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 1: And yeah, we're sending him to the salt mines. We're 577 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: gonna work him to death, to be dead in forty 578 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: eight hours. Remember this. While that was certainly some people's existence. 579 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 1: Slaves were money, slaves were valuable. You didn't want them dead, 580 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 1: you wanted them alive so they can work for you. 581 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:20,240 Speaker 1: And a slave's life during Roman times could be anything 582 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: from the most horrific existence imaginable. We have these stories 583 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 1: of powerful Roman men purchasing women and children from markets 584 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 1: and then never seeing them again and living out the 585 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: rest of their very very ugly days in a living 586 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: hell you can't imagine. So, yes, that happened. I'm sure 587 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: that happened. We know that happened. But also it ran 588 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: the gamut. Some had that life of a living hell, 589 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: Some had a gladiator's life. Some were simply farmers. Some 590 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,879 Speaker 1: were farmers poorly, poorly treated. Some were farmers treated really well. 591 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: Some lived a better life than you. Some, because remember 592 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: they would make slaves of anybody, They didn't just find 593 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 1: the dregs of any society. Some were tutors to the Roman. 594 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 1: There was to the Roman, you know, wealthy people to 595 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: their children. If you found a slave, and they found 596 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: plenty of them, who knew multiple languages, who knew mathematics, 597 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: who knew philosophy, you're gonna have a real nice life. 598 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 1: You're gonna eat. Well, you're bunking up with the big boss. 599 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,240 Speaker 1: And they should have learned that lesson, that not every 600 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: slave is a bumbling idiot. Now they assumed because Spartacus 601 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 1: was a gladiator, that he was just a big water 602 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: muscle and that's all he was. What turned out, Spartacus 603 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 1: was a lot more because he beat the crap out 604 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: of the Romans. And now now you've made a huge mistake. 605 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,919 Speaker 1: Tell me if any of this sounds familiar, you've made 606 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 1: a gigantic mistake as Romans, because a lot just happened. 607 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: It's a lot more than just Globber and his guys 608 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: getting smacked around at night. You just sent off a 609 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: gigantic flare in the dark of night in the entire 610 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:24,320 Speaker 1: country of Italy to every unhappy slave there. And you, 611 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: because you failed to put it down immediately, you let 612 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 1: it fester. Now these other slaves think there's a legitimate 613 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 1: slave rebellion going on. Now it grows exponentially. Before Spartacus 614 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: is just some guy stuck on Mount Vesuvius. Now Spartacus 615 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: is armed like a Roman army leading thousands of men. 616 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 1: If you were a slave on the brink of pulling 617 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 1: out that knife and stabbing your master and running away. 618 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,439 Speaker 1: But you never did before because you weren't. You're awhere 619 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: to go, don't you have a place to go? Now? 620 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 1: You've got Spartacus who's already spreading the word that he 621 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 1: shares all the loots with all of his men. He's 622 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 1: doing this big man of the people thing again. Maybe 623 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 1: you're that you're that slave who gets the tutor the 624 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: big boss's son. Yeah, you're probably not going anywhere if 625 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 1: you're one of these poorly treated slaves yearning for freedom, 626 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 1: remembering the days in your old country where you were free. 627 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,799 Speaker 1: Are you tempted? I've got a shovel in my hand. 628 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,799 Speaker 1: The boss is right there looking the other way. Are 629 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 1: you tempted to take that swing? Oh? You bet you're 630 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 1: tempted to take that swing? How much would it push you? 631 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 1: How much of a nudge would you need to take 632 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:06,399 Speaker 1: that swing? Maybe you turn around and you see him 633 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:11,720 Speaker 1: eyeballing your wife. You're taking that swing. Maybe you watched 634 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: him whip your son that morning. You're taken that swing, 635 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: You see what I mean. Once Spartacus goes from being 636 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:23,400 Speaker 1: just a guy, once he goes from being a dude 637 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 1: on Mount Vesuvius, to a destination. Now, now you have 638 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,880 Speaker 1: a major problem on your hands, because now they're flocking 639 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 1: to him, and Spartacus knows it, and he's taking people in, 640 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:45,320 Speaker 1: and he's taking people in and he's training them. They're 641 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,319 Speaker 1: not just aimlessly wandering around the Roman countryside. They are 642 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 1: finding food, shelter, they are finding open arms, and they 643 00:49:54,120 --> 00:50:00,839 Speaker 1: are finding new recruits pouring into their ranks every single day. 644 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:08,399 Speaker 1: And Rome looks around now like, oh crap, well, now 645 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 1: you have to put this thing down. So what they 646 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 1: do is they get the consoles together. Remember, Rome essentially 647 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,800 Speaker 1: had two presidents. It's a weird system. I don't understand 648 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 1: why they did it that way, but the Romans were 649 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 1: pretty smart. I'm sure they were smarter than us. The 650 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 1: Romans had two presidents. They were called consoles, two at 651 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 1: a time. They served for one year is all. And 652 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:37,319 Speaker 1: the consoles, unlike today, were the ones who actually led 653 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:43,320 Speaker 1: men into combat. I love that senators consoles were expected 654 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 1: to be at the front of the line. Baby, you go, 655 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,320 Speaker 1: oh you think this war is important? Well, sally Forth, brother, 656 00:50:52,960 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 1: pull out the armor. Let's see it. Am. Rome gets 657 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:39,240 Speaker 1: both of its consoles together, gives both of its consuls armies. 658 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 1: Now I know what you're thinking. Why in the world 659 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 1: would you send two different armies up there when you 660 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: can send one big one. Well, and this is going 661 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: to come into play here shortly, war was about glory 662 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 1: to Romans. Rome was about or war was about glory 663 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:05,800 Speaker 1: and wealth and power. It wasn't necessarily all about the Rome. 664 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,840 Speaker 1: It wasn't about the freedom of Rome the Roman republic. 665 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 1: It was about I mean, I would really love to 666 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,399 Speaker 1: have a Roman triumph. That looks like lots of fun. 667 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 1: I could actually use a new estate too. And neither 668 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 1: of these consoles necessarily wanted to go at all. Why, Well, 669 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 1: remember what I just said. What it's about for them? 670 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:37,319 Speaker 1: Glory and wealth. Well, if this is just a bunch 671 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,839 Speaker 1: of slaves, how much glory is there? And putting down 672 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:45,759 Speaker 1: a slave rebellion? Not much? Right? He mean still to 673 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 1: this day, Sparta, up to this point in time, Spartacus 674 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 1: has slapped around some you know, relatively insignificant people. Well, 675 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 1: I don't get any glory if I go up and 676 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,240 Speaker 1: put down a slave rebellion. I want to go east, 677 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 1: can conquers wealthy king money. Remember the second thing, it's 678 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 1: about money. Spartacus doesn't have any money. The only money 679 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 1: Spartacus and his people have is money they've already rated 680 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 1: from the Roman countryside, so it's hard to get them motivated. 681 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,280 Speaker 1: And if they have to go, why would you split 682 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,479 Speaker 1: your army into Well, if I have to go fight 683 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 1: this guy, I'm certainly not going to share the meager 684 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,920 Speaker 1: amount of glory with this other idiot. Console starting to 685 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:36,359 Speaker 1: see problems. Starting to see problems when you get divided 686 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: on the best way to put down a rebellion. Oh, 687 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,600 Speaker 1: they show up, They show up, and there's one Roman 688 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,440 Speaker 1: army on one side and the other one on the 689 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 1: other side. And Spartacus, because again he's Spartacus and not 690 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 1: some idiot figures out, well, I better knock out one 691 00:53:55,280 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 1: of these guys really quickly leads a massive horse charge 692 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:07,640 Speaker 1: against one of them, destroys him. Turns around. Now it's 693 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:13,800 Speaker 1: one on one. He destroys the other one too. Now 694 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:18,320 Speaker 1: remember again, I hate to keep bringing it up. Remember 695 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 1: back where we were little Spartacus one or two thousand 696 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 1: troops on Mount Vesuvius, and you didn't take it seriously. 697 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:35,920 Speaker 1: Now he's defeating Roman legions in the field, and now 698 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,359 Speaker 1: one of the great questions in history. Nobody has an 699 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:49,400 Speaker 1: answer for now Spartacus. Now he has nothing and nobody 700 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,320 Speaker 1: in between him and the Alps. He's making his way north. 701 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 1: The Alps are the limit of Rome. Spartacus can cross 702 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:03,239 Speaker 1: the Alps, be free with all of his men. And 703 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 1: to this day, nobody, nobody knows why he doesn't. He 704 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 1: doesn't cross the Alps. There are a million different theories 705 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,680 Speaker 1: on it. Some people say he was worried about dying 706 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: in the Alps, which is totally reasonable. You all remember 707 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 1: the Hannibal show I did and shows I've done and 708 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 1: we'll do again. Yeah, Hannibal cross the Alps and it's 709 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,920 Speaker 1: this amazing feat. But he got a lot of his 710 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,240 Speaker 1: dudes killed doing it. It's not exactly like just walking 711 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,719 Speaker 1: down the street. It's gold up there, dangerous people up there. 712 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:42,760 Speaker 1: Some people say his men didn't necessarily want to leave 713 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,760 Speaker 1: what they were doing. There are a lot of people 714 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 1: who believe this is the case, and I believe this 715 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 1: is the case. You see, we know how the story ends. 716 00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 1: So it looks stupid now, but put yourself in their shoes. 717 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 1: Tell me if any of this sounds familiar at all, 718 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 1: you didn't have a great existence before, for whatever reason, 719 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 1: you were unhappy with your lot in life. Now you 720 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 1: have people on their knees in front of you, begging 721 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 1: for their lives. Now you're out there taking what you want, 722 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 1: doing what you please. Nobody seems to be stopping you. 723 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 1: If you've just come from a life you hate to 724 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:46,879 Speaker 1: that life, do you think that's something you're going to 725 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 1: give up without somebody making you give it up? Any 726 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:59,840 Speaker 1: of that sound familiar? Any that sound relevant for today? 727 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 1: Do you think either way? He doesn't cross the Alps, 728 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:09,840 Speaker 1: He turns around, takes off down south and heads down 729 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,880 Speaker 1: to the toe of the boot. That's right, he was 730 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 1: clear up north, marches clear back down south, unmolested. The 731 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,960 Speaker 1: dude's just running things now in Rome, passes Rome. People 732 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 1: again ask why he didn't take Rome. I assume he 733 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 1: didn't have the siege equipment to take Rome. That's a 734 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 1: big assumption. Smarticus was a smarticus. Spartacus was a smart dude. 735 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 1: I just assume he didn't have the siege equipment to 736 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,560 Speaker 1: take Rome. Marches clear back down to the toe of 737 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 1: the Italian boot. He finds some pirates who were going 738 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 1: to ferry him across the little two miles stretch of 739 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 1: water between the boot of Italy and Sicily, that big 740 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 1: island off of there. He promptly pays these pirates who 741 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 1: say thanks, appreciate it, and they turn around and take 742 00:57:56,080 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 1: off without him. That sucks. Well. Now you're in a 743 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 1: bit of a pickle because now Rome has decided they're 744 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 1: going to take this problem very, very very seriously. Now 745 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:16,960 Speaker 1: a man named Crassis has stepped up to the plate. 746 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 1: Maybe you've heard that name before, maybe you haven't allowed 747 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 1: us to take a brief side note, what Chris, I 748 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,440 Speaker 1: realized we're going a little along today. It's my show. 749 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,440 Speaker 1: I'm doing whatever I want. All the news is crappy. 750 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to get on the microphone and start YO, 751 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 1: and I'm enjoying myself. Jesse at Jesse Kellyshow dot com. 752 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,640 Speaker 1: Jesse at Jesse Kelly show dot com. Feel free to 753 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 1: email me. I'll get back to this story in a second. 754 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,480 Speaker 1: Email me anything you want. I read them all. I 755 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,840 Speaker 1: got your emails about the church situation and all that, 756 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,680 Speaker 1: all of you. Thank you for them. Appreciate that very 757 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 1: very much. It was wonderful. Email me whatever you want, 758 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,480 Speaker 1: or if you missed any part of the show, you 759 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:07,440 Speaker 1: can find any part of the show immediately after Chris 760 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 1: gets the podcast up there on iHeart, Google, Spotify, on iTunes. 761 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,880 Speaker 1: If you do it on iTunes, do me a favor, 762 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 1: hit subscribe, leave a five star review, leave a comment 763 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:27,560 Speaker 1: talking about how handsome I am. That is critical for 764 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:33,920 Speaker 1: the advancement of the show. Back to Crassis, Crassis was 765 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 1: many people say, and I'm sure this is arguable, but 766 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 1: obviously adjusting for a million different things, many people say 767 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:49,240 Speaker 1: Crassis was the richest man who ever lived. Crapis Crassis 768 00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 1: was not necessarily the most scrupulous dude in the world. 769 00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 1: I mean, he was really kind of a world class 770 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:04,959 Speaker 1: dirt ball. Prissis would do things like run his own 771 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:09,320 Speaker 1: private fire department. Remember this is pre government run things 772 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 1: like government police departments and government fire departments. Prissis would 773 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:19,720 Speaker 1: run his own fire department, and sometimes if he wanted something, 774 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 1: he would actually have somebody set fire to somebody's apartment 775 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:29,240 Speaker 1: building and then bar his fire department from putting it out. 776 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 1: And while the fire was burning, he would approach the 777 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 1: owner and say, I can make you a rock bottom 778 01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 1: offer on that right now, looks like you're gonna have 779 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 1: some fire damage. Yeah, Like I said, not the best dude, 780 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,920 Speaker 1: all right, we gotta take a quick break. Then we're 781 01:00:48,920 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 1: going guess then I'll get back to my story Express vpn. 782 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:09,000 Speaker 1: They are, Well, there's something that has made me sleep 783 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,960 Speaker 1: better at night. I don't like the Internet. And the 784 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,000 Speaker 1: reason I don't like the Internet I've told you this 785 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 1: story before is I had a conversation with a friend 786 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 1: who worked for the federal government years ago, and he 787 01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 1: laid out for me things I never knew. He laid 788 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 1: out for me what criminals these days can do with 789 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:32,720 Speaker 1: tiny bits of your information. You think posting that picture 790 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 1: is fine, You think going to this website and entering 791 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,520 Speaker 1: your information here is fine, But you shouldn't because they 792 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 1: can take those little tiny bits of your information and 793 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:48,000 Speaker 1: completely ruin your finances, in some cases, your career over it. 794 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:53,360 Speaker 1: Get Express vpn and start being anonymous. Go to Express 795 01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:58,360 Speaker 1: vpn dot com slash jesse. That's Express vpn dot com 796 01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 1: slash jesse. Get yourself three months free on a one 797 01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 1: year package. Joining me now. Friend of mine, former Florida 798 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 1: Rep currently running to be the head of the Texas GOP, 799 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:39,720 Speaker 1: which Lord knows he should be. Alan West, Oh, and 800 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:44,640 Speaker 1: Lieutenant Colonel did I mention Allan West? Colonel? Did you 801 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:50,200 Speaker 1: see they canceled cops. Man. Yeah, it's amazing what we 802 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,920 Speaker 1: see happening right now, Jesse. And it just lets you 803 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,840 Speaker 1: to lead you to understand really what the goal and 804 01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,360 Speaker 1: objective is for the progressive socialist left. I mean, these 805 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,480 Speaker 1: are the same people that wanted to defund our immigration 806 01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:07,960 Speaker 1: and customs enforcement, our ice agencies. Now they want to 807 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,880 Speaker 1: defund our police and get them off the streets. And 808 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:12,760 Speaker 1: then on top of that the icing on the cake, 809 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,919 Speaker 1: they're doing everything they can to undermine our Second Amendment rights. 810 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,680 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, Michael Bloomberg has already started 811 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,160 Speaker 1: running ads here in the Great State of Texas with 812 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,920 Speaker 1: his Every Town for Gun Safety group Colonel A lot 813 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 1: of people I get these emails all the time now 814 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,960 Speaker 1: they feel like the world is upside down. And I 815 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,840 Speaker 1: got one last night. It really hit home for me. 816 01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:37,440 Speaker 1: Somebody told me we've spent the last three months deciding 817 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:41,360 Speaker 1: that business owners opening up and cops are the problem 818 01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 1: in the United States of America. No, you're absolutely right. 819 01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,640 Speaker 1: And what is amazing to me in the last three months, 820 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,800 Speaker 1: think about it, Jesse, is that we have had elected 821 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 1: officials trying to determine who and what is essential in 822 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,000 Speaker 1: the United States America. The most essential thing in America 823 01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,520 Speaker 1: is liberty, and now we have a Norman zation is 824 01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,919 Speaker 1: trying to tell us, you know, which lives matter, All 825 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,960 Speaker 1: lives matter. And I really get upset with this organization 826 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,480 Speaker 1: called Black Lives Matter when they come out and they 827 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:14,400 Speaker 1: only try to politicize certain lives the matter which align 828 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,800 Speaker 1: with their ideological agenda, which, as we see, is all 829 01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,120 Speaker 1: about undermining law enforcement and law and order and the 830 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,000 Speaker 1: rule of law on our streets. Colonel, I'm glad you 831 01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,000 Speaker 1: brought that up. I guess my frustration has been this. 832 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:31,080 Speaker 1: I've seen people in my own life friends of mine. Shoot, 833 01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,479 Speaker 1: I lost my pastor, I lost my church this last 834 01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:37,320 Speaker 1: week because people fall for the name. They fall for 835 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,800 Speaker 1: the name. I mean, who doesn't think black lives matter? Everybody? 836 01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,560 Speaker 1: Everyone thinks that, right, So they branded some leftist group 837 01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:47,440 Speaker 1: black Lives Matter to shame everybody who doesn't look into 838 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,120 Speaker 1: it into just thinking, well, if I disagree with them, 839 01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 1: I dislike black people. Why can't people see that this 840 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,040 Speaker 1: is yet another leftist front group that's trying to shame 841 01:04:56,080 --> 01:05:00,000 Speaker 1: them into silence. Well, because so many people are construct 842 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,520 Speaker 1: learned about what you just said being called a name 843 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,720 Speaker 1: they get brought into this guilt that Shelby Still wrote 844 01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,280 Speaker 1: a great book a few years back called White Guilt, 845 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,439 Speaker 1: and I would advise all of your listeners to read 846 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,680 Speaker 1: that book because that's exactly what the left does. The 847 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,080 Speaker 1: Left tries to find that thing that they can leverage 848 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,560 Speaker 1: against you to get you feel uncomfortable in your own skin. Now, 849 01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,920 Speaker 1: if black lives really didn't matter, then why would they 850 01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:29,160 Speaker 1: protesting about the shooting of the retired police officer, police 851 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:33,240 Speaker 1: Captain David Dorn. You heard nothing about him from Black 852 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 1: Lives Matter, or just this past weekend you had eighteen 853 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:39,120 Speaker 1: deaths in the South Side of Chicago from shootings from 854 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,600 Speaker 1: murders black on black crime. I've never heard of Black 855 01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:47,320 Speaker 1: Lives Matter going into Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, any of these 856 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:51,720 Speaker 1: major urban population centers, even here in Dallas and talk about, 857 01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,120 Speaker 1: you know, reducing them out of black on black crime, 858 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,480 Speaker 1: because those lives don't matter, only the lives that they 859 01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,360 Speaker 1: can leverage for a political agenda. And that's what I 860 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,040 Speaker 1: want people to start saying, white, black, age and hispanic 861 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Don't fall for the trick of this 862 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:12,440 Speaker 1: oxymoronic name of this organization. Colonel, I'm sure it was 863 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,959 Speaker 1: probably the same in your unit. But in my unit 864 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:19,000 Speaker 1: when I was in the Marine Corps, we were ruthless 865 01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,240 Speaker 1: with each other when it came to joking about things 866 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,560 Speaker 1: like each other's heritage, each other's race. We said terrible 867 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,920 Speaker 1: things to each other and nobody cared, and we loved it. 868 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,120 Speaker 1: And therefore it never was a problem because it was 869 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,640 Speaker 1: something we could always talk about and joke about. And 870 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,480 Speaker 1: I will tell you to this day, it's still an 871 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:39,200 Speaker 1: adjustment for me in this civilian world. Nobody wants to 872 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,440 Speaker 1: talk about these things as if it's some kind of 873 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,040 Speaker 1: hot potato that's going to melt their hands. Was it 874 01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,280 Speaker 1: the same for you? It just wasn't a problem for us. 875 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,440 Speaker 1: But we loved it. We thought it was hilarious. Well, 876 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,600 Speaker 1: the thing is, in the military, we're all soldiers. We 877 01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:56,240 Speaker 1: don't see each other with those you know, delineating characteristics. 878 01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,960 Speaker 1: And I always go back to what doctor MARLUSA King Jr. 879 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:01,720 Speaker 1: Hope for. And you know, I grew up in the 880 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,920 Speaker 1: same neighborhood that he grew up in, and he preached 881 01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,920 Speaker 1: it in Atlanta that he wanted our country to get 882 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,120 Speaker 1: to a point where we judge people by the content 883 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,240 Speaker 1: of their character rather than the color of their skin. 884 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:15,600 Speaker 1: But yet we continue to have these divisive organizations and groups, 885 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,920 Speaker 1: most of them leftists and radicals. They try to take 886 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 1: us back to the conversation all about skin color than 887 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 1: about character. And I think that somewhere, somehow we need 888 01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,800 Speaker 1: to have adults in the room who take over the 889 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:31,680 Speaker 1: conversation and stop allowing the irrational, emotional little children that 890 01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,800 Speaker 1: are throwing a tantrum in the grocery store aisle to 891 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:40,320 Speaker 1: be the dominant voices. Colonel, I don't like federal solutions 892 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:44,200 Speaker 1: to really pretty much anything. I'm a big limited government guy. 893 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,720 Speaker 1: You can call me crazy, but when I hear from 894 01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:51,240 Speaker 1: either party that we're going to propose federal solutions to something, 895 01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,960 Speaker 1: it always makes me cringe, no matter what it is. 896 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,440 Speaker 1: Why can't maybe Minneapolis does have a police bad police department, 897 01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,600 Speaker 1: maybe they have a racist police department for all I know, 898 01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,680 Speaker 1: But why is it never Why can nobody step up 899 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,360 Speaker 1: and say, well, then Minneapolis should fix it. They have 900 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,560 Speaker 1: a city council, they have a mayor, They're in control 901 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,880 Speaker 1: of the budget of the training that never gets talked about. Ever, 902 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:15,280 Speaker 1: everything has to be a federal problem. Things aren't federal problems. Well, 903 01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,200 Speaker 1: I think we have lost that understanding of federalism. I 904 01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:21,000 Speaker 1: think that right now every single time, you know, you 905 01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,080 Speaker 1: stump your tone and you run to the federal government 906 01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,640 Speaker 1: to fix it for you, and in doing that you 907 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:30,400 Speaker 1: lose more of your individual and local community rights and liberties. 908 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:34,120 Speaker 1: You're right, I mean, four bad cops in Minnesota should 909 01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,880 Speaker 1: not in Minneapolis, should not have resulted in what we 910 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:40,639 Speaker 1: see happening right now, and someone should have gone in again, 911 01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:42,360 Speaker 1: like I said, been in the adult in the room. 912 01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,800 Speaker 1: But when you look at the mayor of Minneapolis, Minnesota, 913 01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:51,200 Speaker 1: how weak, feckless and ineffective could you have a mayor? 914 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,200 Speaker 1: A person as a mayor? They made him do that 915 01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:57,639 Speaker 1: walk of shame. And so we have got to start 916 01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:01,920 Speaker 1: electing strong leadership and statesmen that will stand up to 917 01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,880 Speaker 1: the mob and not allow the mob to rule over them. 918 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,479 Speaker 1: What are your plans for the Texas GOP when you 919 01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:13,120 Speaker 1: undoubtedly win, Well, you know, we never take anything for granted, 920 01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,719 Speaker 1: but the most important things we have to go on offense. Jesse, 921 01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,120 Speaker 1: You know, you and I grew up you know as 922 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,280 Speaker 1: a marine and also as a soldier. Here. You don't 923 01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,759 Speaker 1: win on defense and so too often the Republican Party 924 01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,600 Speaker 1: has always been reactionary, been on defense, never had a 925 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,120 Speaker 1: proactive message. We're going to change that here in the 926 01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:32,559 Speaker 1: great state of Texas. I think the other thing is 927 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,640 Speaker 1: to create a movement and empower people at the grassroots 928 01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:39,839 Speaker 1: level to get out and really, you know, be the voices. 929 01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,840 Speaker 1: I want to see us win at the local levels, 930 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:46,200 Speaker 1: and I want us to re emphasize those local elected 931 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,840 Speaker 1: races as well, city council, school boards, things of this nature. 932 01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,640 Speaker 1: But I think the most important thing, Jesse is we 933 01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,680 Speaker 1: just have to talk about, you know, the greatness of 934 01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:59,760 Speaker 1: Texas and what Texas stands for and what Texas represents. 935 01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:03,280 Speaker 1: And we've got to challenge people that are moving into Texas. 936 01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,360 Speaker 1: Some of them moving for the right reasons, but others 937 01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:09,360 Speaker 1: are not. Especially these large corporations and businesses are bringing 938 01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:12,120 Speaker 1: employees in here and then I explaining to them why 939 01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,599 Speaker 1: they left California, Illinois, New York or New Jersey. So 940 01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,479 Speaker 1: we've got to be a more visible party. We have 941 01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:22,200 Speaker 1: got to be a party that defines the narrative and 942 01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:25,919 Speaker 1: not has someone else. Have someone else define the narrative 943 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 1: or we chase their talking points. Colonel how can people 944 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,559 Speaker 1: support you. What do people need to do? People don't 945 01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,200 Speaker 1: understand how this works sometimes, how do they support you? 946 01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,840 Speaker 1: How do they vote for you? What happens here? Yeah, 947 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,679 Speaker 1: this is done by a delegate process. And so right 948 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:43,280 Speaker 1: now we have your county conventions and your state Senate 949 01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,640 Speaker 1: district conventions are being held, and you can go and 950 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 1: present yourself to be a delegate because that's who does 951 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,760 Speaker 1: the voting at the state convention, which will be in 952 01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:55,000 Speaker 1: Houston the sixteen through the eighteenth of July. So it's 953 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,800 Speaker 1: a delegate process. So contact your local precinct chairs or 954 01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:02,559 Speaker 1: your county chairman and get an understanding of how you 955 01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,920 Speaker 1: can become a delegate. And you can follow us at 956 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,639 Speaker 1: west the number four Texas dot com. West four Texas 957 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:11,680 Speaker 1: dot Com. Grown a while and West Thank you so much, sir, 958 01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,760 Speaker 1: appreciate you very much. Always a pleasure. Jesse, you take 959 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:20,080 Speaker 1: care of lumper five, number five, Jesus, stud dude. I 960 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 1: knew that guy a long time ago when he first 961 01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,200 Speaker 1: got elected to Congress. Gosh, that guy's cool. All right, 962 01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,519 Speaker 1: shoote Robin's out of time again. I'm gonna get back 963 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,880 Speaker 1: to Kratsis and guess what we're gonna talk about some 964 01:11:29,920 --> 01:12:07,360 Speaker 1: of the modern stories today. Hang on, Chris and I 965 01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:12,880 Speaker 1: were having an in depth conversation during the break. He 966 01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:19,760 Speaker 1: is trying to claim that women from Florida aren't as 967 01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,720 Speaker 1: hot as I said they were. We were going over. 968 01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:24,880 Speaker 1: We weren't talking about women. We were talking about Florida 969 01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,080 Speaker 1: and all the benefits of Florida with the taxes and 970 01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,679 Speaker 1: the peaches and stuff like, Florida gets a bad rap 971 01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,120 Speaker 1: and it's fun to make fun of Florida. And look, 972 01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,920 Speaker 1: lots of Florida is insane. They have a Python problem, 973 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:41,280 Speaker 1: for Prette's sake, who has a Python problem. There's some 974 01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,840 Speaker 1: meth there. There are some crazy people there. I get it. 975 01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:48,080 Speaker 1: But Florida, overall, it's a really cool state. I can 976 01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,760 Speaker 1: live in Florida, Chris. I can live now. Don't get 977 01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:52,680 Speaker 1: me wrong. I don't want to leave taxes. I'm very 978 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,320 Speaker 1: very happy right where I am. I could absolutely live 979 01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:59,559 Speaker 1: in Florida. And you know what, Chris, I would get 980 01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,519 Speaker 1: a boat, even though you crap all over my boat. 981 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,840 Speaker 1: Shut up, Chris. I would have a spot on the water, 982 01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,679 Speaker 1: one of those cool houses that has the little bay 983 01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:12,120 Speaker 1: thingies that go back the thingies, you know what I mean. 984 01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,000 Speaker 1: The water. I don't know all the words for it, 985 01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,240 Speaker 1: the little water offshoot from the ocean with the dock 986 01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:20,320 Speaker 1: on the outside. I would put on a sport coat 987 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,600 Speaker 1: and roll up the sleeves halfway up what halfway up 988 01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:28,599 Speaker 1: my forearms, put on some shades, and just cruise around, baby, 989 01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,840 Speaker 1: cruise around, and everywhere I go in my boat, I'd 990 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:37,679 Speaker 1: be blasting the Miami Vice theme. It would be awesome. 991 01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:44,479 Speaker 1: Back to Crassus before I get distracted. Spartacus is stuck 992 01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:49,880 Speaker 1: in the toe of a boot. Crassus very very, very 993 01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:55,960 Speaker 1: wealthy man, as we talked about, but missing something missing 994 01:13:56,320 --> 01:14:00,800 Speaker 1: the wartime pelts on the wall. And this should tell 995 01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:05,840 Speaker 1: you how important that was to the Romans. Remember when 996 01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:09,720 Speaker 1: we're talking about Crassis, we're possibly talking about the wealthiest 997 01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:16,320 Speaker 1: man who ever lived. This man wants for nothing. You 998 01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,519 Speaker 1: remember that experiment I tell you all sometimes where I 999 01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:21,880 Speaker 1: snap my fingers and give you everything you've ever wanted. 1000 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,760 Speaker 1: Crassis has everything he's ever wanted everything. There's nothing that 1001 01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:32,640 Speaker 1: guy wants. He can't have nothing, even political power. He 1002 01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:36,320 Speaker 1: has obviously bought plenty of political power. The guy has everything, 1003 01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,040 Speaker 1: and yet he looks at his resume and says to himself. 1004 01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,000 Speaker 1: I need a military win. So he gets a legion together, 1005 01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:49,639 Speaker 1: marches down, and something I would have loved to have seen, 1006 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:56,160 Speaker 1: he builds essentially a trench across the entire toe of 1007 01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,800 Speaker 1: the boot, trapping Spartacus. His army on the other side 1008 01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:05,040 Speaker 1: of that. Had to be quite a trench. Quite a trench. 1009 01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:10,080 Speaker 1: Now we need to wrap this up, so let's do this. 1010 01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:18,000 Speaker 1: Spartacus finds a way to cross the trench, and he 1011 01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:21,519 Speaker 1: crosses it by filling it up with dead bodies and 1012 01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:27,120 Speaker 1: riding his horses across it. Which is man that had 1013 01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:31,040 Speaker 1: to smell? Chris? Did that not have to smell? We 1014 01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:36,000 Speaker 1: could assume the dead bodies weren't that fresh, and then 1015 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,479 Speaker 1: you're riding horses across it, so you're just chopping them up, 1016 01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:43,160 Speaker 1: and it's just you that probably did not smell. Well, 1017 01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,760 Speaker 1: I'm assuming nobody smelled well. You know what you never 1018 01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:53,040 Speaker 1: talk about? How often did they bathe? How often did 1019 01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:57,280 Speaker 1: they brush their teeth? We obviously know they had food 1020 01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:00,120 Speaker 1: and water or they wouldn't be alive, but how often 1021 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:06,040 Speaker 1: did these basic things happen? Anyway, not to get distracted, 1022 01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:11,360 Speaker 1: Spartacus squares off against Crassus in an epic battle, and 1023 01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:16,240 Speaker 1: in one of the coolest scenes ever. It ranks right 1024 01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:21,639 Speaker 1: up there with the Aztecs wearing some king's daughter's skin 1025 01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,880 Speaker 1: and at the king's banquet. I know, one of my 1026 01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,400 Speaker 1: favorite historical stories of all time, Chris, Maybe I'll tell 1027 01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,200 Speaker 1: that again later on in the show. I just love 1028 01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:33,240 Speaker 1: it so much. Spartacus rides his horse up in front 1029 01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:37,320 Speaker 1: of his men to square off against Crassus, hops off 1030 01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:41,400 Speaker 1: his horse and kills his horse in front of his men, 1031 01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,599 Speaker 1: and his men are looking in him like dude, wait what, 1032 01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:51,320 Speaker 1: And Spartacus tells him We'll have plenty of horses if 1033 01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,320 Speaker 1: we win, and if we don't, I'll never have need 1034 01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:59,439 Speaker 1: of another one? How sweet is that? How sweet is that? 1035 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:05,840 Speaker 1: And he loses. Spartacus he has a battle plan. By 1036 01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:09,800 Speaker 1: all accounts historically, his battle plan was to kill Crassus. 1037 01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:13,479 Speaker 1: This wasn't a vengeful thing. It was let's cut off 1038 01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,960 Speaker 1: the head of the snakes of the armyable scatter. It 1039 01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,240 Speaker 1: depends on who you listen to how close he got. 1040 01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:26,559 Speaker 1: Spartacus personally was trying to kill Crassus, threw himself into it, 1041 01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:31,080 Speaker 1: did not make it. There was cut down in battle, 1042 01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:37,080 Speaker 1: which leads us to crucifixion. Do you remember that question 1043 01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,719 Speaker 1: I asked you about crucifixion at the beginning of the show. 1044 01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:45,559 Speaker 1: I mean, you understand what it was, right. I know 1045 01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,680 Speaker 1: you've seen Jesus hanging there, but you understand what it was. 1046 01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:54,439 Speaker 1: They would There are a couple of different methods. Actually, 1047 01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,280 Speaker 1: some are the traditional ones you've seen of Jesus, where 1048 01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:01,599 Speaker 1: they take a super long spike and drive it through 1049 01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:05,200 Speaker 1: the top of both of your feet, nailing your feet 1050 01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:12,280 Speaker 1: to the cross stacked on top of each other. Sometimes 1051 01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:15,600 Speaker 1: they would instead have your feet straddle the sides of 1052 01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:19,280 Speaker 1: the cross and drive a nail in through your ankles 1053 01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:45,800 Speaker 1: or tendon area. Oh I'm not done. Hang on, EBB. 1054 01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:50,240 Speaker 1: Sleep will change you. It will change everything. And here's 1055 01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:53,439 Speaker 1: how it does it. Look. It's not pills. It's not 1056 01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,400 Speaker 1: even something you put in your mouth, you know, to 1057 01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,599 Speaker 1: just control your sleep. It is a wearable device. You 1058 01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:03,040 Speaker 1: put it on your head and it applies precise, continuous 1059 01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:06,559 Speaker 1: cooling to your forehead area. And guess what, that's the 1060 01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:10,120 Speaker 1: area where those racing thoughts come from, you know, the 1061 01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:13,800 Speaker 1: ones that keep you awake all night long. There's a 1062 01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,599 Speaker 1: way to calm those down. There's a way to turn 1063 01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:20,320 Speaker 1: that mind down so you can fall asleep faster and 1064 01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,760 Speaker 1: stay asleep. EBB Sleep is right here for you and 1065 01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:25,880 Speaker 1: get this. You don't have to take my word for it. 1066 01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:30,479 Speaker 1: You can try it sixty days risk free. Go to 1067 01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:35,880 Speaker 1: try ebb dot com slash Jesse. That's try ebb dot com. 1068 01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:39,599 Speaker 1: Slash Jesse used to promo code Jesse at checkout. Get 1069 01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:43,840 Speaker 1: twenty five bucks off change your life. Go get an 1070 01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:58,000 Speaker 1: EBB Sleep and get one today. So pick your poison 1071 01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,639 Speaker 1: on where the nail is driven through your foot or ankle. 1072 01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:09,080 Speaker 1: Then it comes time for your hands or wrists. Again, 1073 01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:13,519 Speaker 1: that was done both ways. A lot of people insist 1074 01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:17,160 Speaker 1: that it was never done through the hands because they 1075 01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,680 Speaker 1: didn't think the hands would be strong enough to hold up. 1076 01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:22,559 Speaker 1: I don't believe that they would either drive it through 1077 01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:26,320 Speaker 1: your middle finger in your ring finger, palm of your hand. 1078 01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,280 Speaker 1: Those bones in there, they would either drive the nail 1079 01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:33,200 Speaker 1: through there, or they would drive it through those two 1080 01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:39,679 Speaker 1: big bones that lead down into your wrists. They then 1081 01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:45,320 Speaker 1: stand you up. Now we can assume you're in a 1082 01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:49,639 Speaker 1: reasonable amount of pain from the nails driven through your 1083 01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:55,280 Speaker 1: ankles and wrists. Right, Well, what if I told you 1084 01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,080 Speaker 1: that wasn't even close to the worst part of suit 1085 01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:02,920 Speaker 1: of crucifixion. And we like to think about that, don't we. 1086 01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:09,400 Speaker 1: It's well, it's the nails, brother, It's not just the nails. 1087 01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:57,120 Speaker 1: Hang on the Jesse Kelly show. This is the Jesse 1088 01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:17,360 Speaker 1: Kelly Show. Once you're stood up on the cross, it's 1089 01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:24,360 Speaker 1: not the nails. Oh, I'm sure that's unpleasant. The way 1090 01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:32,479 Speaker 1: the human body is made, you can't breathe if you 1091 01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,920 Speaker 1: just let your body hang up there on the cross. 1092 01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:43,400 Speaker 1: You have to push yourself up or your lungs cannot 1093 01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:50,120 Speaker 1: take in oxygen. Did you hear what I said? You 1094 01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:56,720 Speaker 1: have to push yourself up, meaning that nail that is 1095 01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:01,400 Speaker 1: driven through the top of your foot or ankles. You 1096 01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:05,679 Speaker 1: have to push yourself up off of the wound while 1097 01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:09,839 Speaker 1: the nails in there, in order to take a breath, 1098 01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:18,639 Speaker 1: even if you want to die. It is human nature. 1099 01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,639 Speaker 1: It is instinct to push up anyway so you can 1100 01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:29,920 Speaker 1: take a breath. That's why it was considered so horrendous, 1101 01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:40,439 Speaker 1: because it's prolonged suffering. In the Bible, when he's going 1102 01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:45,439 Speaker 1: around breaking the legs of the three people crucified Jesus 1103 01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:50,960 Speaker 1: and the two others, he's not doing that out of cruelty. 1104 01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:56,320 Speaker 1: He's doing that as a mercy. People would ask you 1105 01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:02,240 Speaker 1: to shatter their own legs so they would stop pushing 1106 01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:07,400 Speaker 1: themselves up, so they would finally die. Your choice is 1107 01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:12,920 Speaker 1: to suffocate or stand on the nails driven through your ankles. 1108 01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:18,799 Speaker 1: It was extremely common for people walking by to be bagged. 1109 01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:29,200 Speaker 1: Please kill me, Please break my legs, please give me water. Obviously, 1110 01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:34,680 Speaker 1: as was prophesied, they didn't break Jesus's legs, as you know, 1111 01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:50,120 Speaker 1: he stabbed him instead. How about two three days of that? 1112 01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:57,519 Speaker 1: I don't know about you. I'm pretty sure I would 1113 01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:00,839 Speaker 1: mentally lose it after about two or three three minutes 1114 01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:06,960 Speaker 1: of that? How about two or three days? Oh, let's 1115 01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:13,160 Speaker 1: go ahead and add in the sun, the rain, the 1116 01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:19,920 Speaker 1: cold heat. What level of misery can the human mind 1117 01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:24,960 Speaker 1: even take in before it just breaks? Now that I've 1118 01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:30,280 Speaker 1: walked you briefly through a crucifixion, remember how Crassus defeated 1119 01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:37,240 Speaker 1: Spartacus's army, And remember we didn't talk about it today. 1120 01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:44,880 Speaker 1: This was known as the Third Servile War. There were 1121 01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:50,519 Speaker 1: three of them. This was the third. By now, Rome 1122 01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:56,720 Speaker 1: had had just about enough of these uppity slaves rebellion, rebelling. 1123 01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:03,439 Speaker 1: They decided they never wanted to have a fourth. So 1124 01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,200 Speaker 1: you remember where Spartacus was from in Rome, where his 1125 01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:12,519 Speaker 1: little gladiator school was Capua. Right, there's a main road 1126 01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:15,880 Speaker 1: leading through Rome at this time, and this road was 1127 01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:20,200 Speaker 1: called the Appian Way. It was the super highway through Rome. 1128 01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:24,000 Speaker 1: I don't want you to think about this like some 1129 01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:27,320 Speaker 1: single lane dirt road. It was a big deal. Just 1130 01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:31,160 Speaker 1: think of the commerce that would be passing back and forth, 1131 01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:36,599 Speaker 1: the amount of people trade, ports, cities, a super highway, picture, 1132 01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:39,439 Speaker 1: whatever the biggest highway is in your area, that's the 1133 01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:42,479 Speaker 1: Appian Way minus the pavement. But who knows. It's the Romans. 1134 01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:47,559 Speaker 1: They probably didn't pay the freaking thing. They took the 1135 01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:54,200 Speaker 1: six thousand prisoners they had from Crass's defeat of spartacus army, 1136 01:26:56,479 --> 01:27:01,559 Speaker 1: and they crucified each in, every one of them from 1137 01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:10,040 Speaker 1: Capua to Rome, like telephone polls along the road, six 1138 01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:17,800 Speaker 1: thousand people as a message there was never a fourth 1139 01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:27,479 Speaker 1: Servile War. That's about one hundred and fifty miles. One 1140 01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:32,559 Speaker 1: hundred and forty miles. Wrap your mind around that once 1141 01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:36,320 Speaker 1: the last time you drove one hundred forty miles. Get 1142 01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:41,479 Speaker 1: in your car, now, your modern car, and drive for 1143 01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:50,080 Speaker 1: two hours. Now imagine two hours crucified body, crucified body, 1144 01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:53,840 Speaker 1: crucid What does that do to the psyche of an 1145 01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:59,599 Speaker 1: entire empire? How many people during that two three day 1146 01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:03,240 Speaker 1: span and traveled up and down the Appian Way to 1147 01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:11,639 Speaker 1: cries of kilby. Please if that scene sounds like something 1148 01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:15,519 Speaker 1: out of a horror movie to you, One it happened. Two, 1149 01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:25,320 Speaker 1: it is something out of a horror movie. Three it's 1150 01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:30,280 Speaker 1: the price you pay for failing to address a problem 1151 01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:38,040 Speaker 1: at its infancy. Remember way back when when it was 1152 01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:39,680 Speaker 1: just a couple of dudes on the side of a 1153 01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:48,639 Speaker 1: mountain and you sent some idiot down there. Once these 1154 01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:55,639 Speaker 1: things grow, once this kind of societal upheaval takes place 1155 01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:03,000 Speaker 1: and it starts to get a toe hold, the longer 1156 01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:08,280 Speaker 1: you take to end it, the uglier it's going to 1157 01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:17,160 Speaker 1: be when you do end it. There aren't simple solutions 1158 01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:23,719 Speaker 1: too complicated problems, especially when dealing with what we're dealing 1159 01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:26,080 Speaker 1: with right now in the United States of America. I'm 1160 01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:28,080 Speaker 1: not going to sit here and pretend for you like 1161 01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:31,360 Speaker 1: there's just some simple, easy way to out of this. 1162 01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:38,120 Speaker 1: There's not. But here's what I do know. What I 1163 01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:45,240 Speaker 1: do know is we have allowed the leftists to slowly 1164 01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:51,719 Speaker 1: and steadily take over virtually every part of our culture, 1165 01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:58,320 Speaker 1: most importantly the education system. And we have allowed it 1166 01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:00,639 Speaker 1: to go, and we've allowed it to go, and we've 1167 01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:04,120 Speaker 1: allowed it to go, and we've ignored the problem and 1168 01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:10,040 Speaker 1: ignored the problem, and ignored the problem. We are now. 1169 01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:15,439 Speaker 1: I'm sorry if this makes you uncomfortable. We are now 1170 01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:20,400 Speaker 1: at a place in America where if you actually want 1171 01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:23,880 Speaker 1: to solve the problem, if you actually want to root 1172 01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:30,080 Speaker 1: that out, it's going to involve things that make you uncomfortable. No, 1173 01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,519 Speaker 1: it doesn't involve crucifying anybody. You don't need to be 1174 01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:39,799 Speaker 1: going there, stop Chris. But it is going to involve 1175 01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:53,200 Speaker 1: things that offend your sensibilities. It is what are you, 1176 01:30:54,400 --> 01:31:01,040 Speaker 1: as a likely godfearing maybe not center right at least, 1177 01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:06,479 Speaker 1: if not very very far right. What are you comfortable with? 1178 01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:15,240 Speaker 1: What are you not comfortable with? What should you be 1179 01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:44,240 Speaker 1: comfortable with? Hang on The Jesse Kelly Show on air 1180 01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:50,160 Speaker 1: and online at Jesse Kelly show dot com. When I 1181 01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:53,040 Speaker 1: first got my EBB sleep, I have to be honest, 1182 01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:56,519 Speaker 1: I was skeptical, totally frank with you right now. I 1183 01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:59,640 Speaker 1: know that's that's unusual these days but I was skeptical. 1184 01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:02,840 Speaker 1: How can this work? I don't understand how it works. 1185 01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:08,320 Speaker 1: It works. It absolutely works. You put it on your head. 1186 01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:11,280 Speaker 1: You don't have to take sleeping pills anymore, things that 1187 01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:13,040 Speaker 1: make you grow you the next day you put it 1188 01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:16,960 Speaker 1: on your head. It applies precise, continuous cooling to your 1189 01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:20,920 Speaker 1: forehead area, calming those thoughts down that are keeping you awake. 1190 01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:24,920 Speaker 1: You don't have to live like a zombie, like you're 1191 01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:27,639 Speaker 1: in a fog. Yes, I know what it's like. If 1192 01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:30,479 Speaker 1: you can't tell, you can go back to being sharp, 1193 01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,439 Speaker 1: on point all the time. You can go back to 1194 01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:36,200 Speaker 1: being your best you. If I have to sound like, 1195 01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:40,840 Speaker 1: you know, a woman's magazine, try ebb dot com and 1196 01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,240 Speaker 1: get an EBB Sleep. Get an Ebb Sleep. Try ebb 1197 01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:47,880 Speaker 1: dot com. Slash Jesse use the promo code jesse at 1198 01:32:47,960 --> 01:33:11,360 Speaker 1: checkout twenty five bucks off. I'm gonna leave that uncomfortable 1199 01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:19,120 Speaker 1: conversation behind for a few I think we need to 1200 01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:24,240 Speaker 1: talk about something here. I have all the headlines here, 1201 01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:37,240 Speaker 1: but we understand that crime and punishment is not easy. Right. 1202 01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:44,799 Speaker 1: We don't have it right in America. But no nation 1203 01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:49,760 Speaker 1: in the history of mankind has ever figured out their 1204 01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:54,080 Speaker 1: criminal justice system, whatever form that takes, and stood back 1205 01:33:54,120 --> 01:34:02,000 Speaker 1: and said, WHOA done? It's perfect because by its very 1206 01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:09,280 Speaker 1: nature it's imperfect. You have bad people, you have good 1207 01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:13,680 Speaker 1: people who do bad things. Then you have people in 1208 01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:16,680 Speaker 1: charge of handing out punishment to the bad people or 1209 01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:21,240 Speaker 1: good people who do bad things. Which direction does your 1210 01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:27,840 Speaker 1: society take? Do you go full out assyrians and start 1211 01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:32,360 Speaker 1: flying off skin and hanging from the city walls. Probably 1212 01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:35,840 Speaker 1: not off the direction you want to go, effective, sure, 1213 01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:41,080 Speaker 1: but probably not the direction you want to go. Do 1214 01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:46,679 Speaker 1: you go full LUSA fair? Ah, whatever happens happens now. 1215 01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:49,599 Speaker 1: We're not gonna throw you in jail for burning down 1216 01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:52,720 Speaker 1: a store. That's happening in America right now, by the way, Oh, 1217 01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:57,840 Speaker 1: it's fine. Definitely not the way you want to go. 1218 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:04,200 Speaker 1: And I'm doing that thing that I don't like to do, 1219 01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:09,400 Speaker 1: where I ask questions and present problems with things, but 1220 01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:12,599 Speaker 1: I don't have an answer. And that's my point. There's 1221 01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:18,080 Speaker 1: not a good one. There's not a good answer for 1222 01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:24,160 Speaker 1: crime and punishment. If we're going to address the problems 1223 01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:26,959 Speaker 1: in America. Let's say we're going to address the problems 1224 01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:31,639 Speaker 1: in the urban black communities, and we're going to set 1225 01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:35,280 Speaker 1: aside this absurd notion that the cops are the problem. 1226 01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:39,200 Speaker 1: I mean, are there bad cops there? If, of course, 1227 01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:42,320 Speaker 1: is there a bad history there? Of course? Are there 1228 01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:44,880 Speaker 1: racist coups you buy? There are, I promise you there are. 1229 01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:47,840 Speaker 1: Are there just flat bad ones? You bad? I'm not 1230 01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:52,160 Speaker 1: saying there are no problem. I'm saying even the stupidest 1231 01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:55,240 Speaker 1: person in the world doesn't believe in their heart of hearts, 1232 01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:59,040 Speaker 1: the cops are really the problem in Chicago where eighteen 1233 01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:03,400 Speaker 1: people die in a day last week. Come on, let's 1234 01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:10,200 Speaker 1: be real here. But everyone wants to act as if 1235 01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:14,120 Speaker 1: there's some kind of simple solution to it. How can 1236 01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:18,679 Speaker 1: we ever get to any solutions, simple or otherwise if 1237 01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:24,280 Speaker 1: we can't even focus on the problem. Nobody out there 1238 01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:30,000 Speaker 1: wants to have a serious conversation in either party about 1239 01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:41,240 Speaker 1: the poverty, about father's leaving the home, about how government 1240 01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:47,320 Speaker 1: handouts historically, time and time again, hold people back instead 1241 01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:52,640 Speaker 1: of helping people up. Nobody wants to have these uncomfortable conversations. 1242 01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:56,519 Speaker 1: And when I say nobody, I mean both parties people. 1243 01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm staring at a headline right now. I read up 1244 01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:07,160 Speaker 1: on it yesterday. Republican Senator Tim Scott at the direction 1245 01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:16,920 Speaker 1: of Republican Mitch McConnell has drafted a Justice Act. I'm 1246 01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:19,400 Speaker 1: not going to go through the list of everything there. 1247 01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:28,280 Speaker 1: It's well, it's what. Every single Republican proposal is a 1248 01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:34,679 Speaker 1: more watered down version of the Democrat proposal. And this 1249 01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:40,960 Speaker 1: is my frustration. Are there ten people in politics in Washington, 1250 01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:46,759 Speaker 1: DC who were willing to change the conversation. I've watched 1251 01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:51,759 Speaker 1: Republicans do this my entire life. We see Democrats propose 1252 01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:55,000 Speaker 1: some federal bill as if this is a federal problem. 1253 01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:59,280 Speaker 1: This is a problem of the individual cities. Maybe Minneapolis 1254 01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:02,720 Speaker 1: is full of neo Nazi cops. They might be. I 1255 01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:07,320 Speaker 1: don't know, I'm not from there. Then fix it Minneapolis. 1256 01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:11,439 Speaker 1: You have a city council, you have a mayor. If 1257 01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:16,200 Speaker 1: your city has a problem, fix your city. Minneapolis's problem. 1258 01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:19,320 Speaker 1: It's not Houston's problem. It's not New York City's problem. 1259 01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:25,439 Speaker 1: It's not LA's problem, it's not Cheboygan's problem. It's Minneapolis's problem. 1260 01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:30,600 Speaker 1: We don't need more idiotic, top down federal solutions of 1261 01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,679 Speaker 1: any kind. I don't care what sunny face you put 1262 01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:36,400 Speaker 1: on them. So the Democrats put out their proposal and 1263 01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:39,080 Speaker 1: Republicans are like, oh, oh wait, we have one two, 1264 01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:45,160 Speaker 1: we have one two. I am so tired of this crap. 1265 01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:53,480 Speaker 1: I'm so tired of Democrats laying something out and Republicans, 1266 01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:58,439 Speaker 1: because they're scared to death and totally ballless, laying out 1267 01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:02,920 Speaker 1: something very similar, just not quite as bad. They constantly 1268 01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:06,640 Speaker 1: do this crap where they play the Democrats game on 1269 01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:11,880 Speaker 1: the Democrats field, with the Democrats referees enforcing the Democrats rules, 1270 01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:15,400 Speaker 1: and then Democrats always come out ahead. In the end, 1271 01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:20,760 Speaker 1: government always grows a little more Democrat friendly. Government's only 1272 01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,200 Speaker 1: grown for a hundred years. And this is why this 1273 01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:29,599 Speaker 1: ballless crap from people like Tim Scott always trying to 1274 01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:32,639 Speaker 1: do the Well, no, we're not going to be social 1275 01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:36,360 Speaker 1: justice warriors as bad as they are. I mean, we're 1276 01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:38,080 Speaker 1: gonna do it a little, but we're not going to 1277 01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:40,439 Speaker 1: do it as bad as they are. Hey, look how 1278 01:39:40,439 --> 01:39:42,720 Speaker 1: a friendly we are to women. Hey, you know what 1279 01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:44,320 Speaker 1: we need? And I hate this too. It tries to 1280 01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:46,720 Speaker 1: be crazy. You know what we really need? We need 1281 01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:49,800 Speaker 1: to run a woman for office. There we need a 1282 01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:53,479 Speaker 1: black dude. Oh wait, there's a lot of Hispanics. Can 1283 01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:58,240 Speaker 1: we find a Latino dude? I don't care what color 1284 01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:01,720 Speaker 1: or gender he is. Could we just run somebody who 1285 01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:05,559 Speaker 1: believes in limited government and stop with this absurd race, 1286 01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:12,960 Speaker 1: gender pandering crap. Leave that to the sick leftists. Leave 1287 01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:17,880 Speaker 1: that to the people interested in dividing this society. Leave 1288 01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:24,360 Speaker 1: that to those people. You focus on liberty. You because 1289 01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:28,320 Speaker 1: hopefully you get a brain and spine transplant. You get 1290 01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:32,599 Speaker 1: up on television with a microphone in your face and say, 1291 01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:36,080 Speaker 1: I think it's horrible what happened to George Floyd in Minneapolis. 1292 01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:39,120 Speaker 1: I think Minneapolis should do something about it. Thank you, 1293 01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:47,400 Speaker 1: have a good night. But we never get it, do we? 1294 01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:51,800 Speaker 1: We never ever get it? And I'm so sick and 1295 01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:55,320 Speaker 1: freaking tired of it. And I'll tell you what, if 1296 01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:59,320 Speaker 1: you're upset with me, letting Republicans have it both barrels, 1297 01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:02,280 Speaker 1: you better or saddle up jack, because I'm only getting 1298 01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:06,200 Speaker 1: angrier and angrier the more I see this absolute fecklessness 1299 01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:09,280 Speaker 1: in our party. It's disgusting to me. I watched it 1300 01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:13,000 Speaker 1: happen during coronavirus too. Oh well, we have to lock 1301 01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:15,320 Speaker 1: down what Obviously we don't want to lock down as 1302 01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:17,559 Speaker 1: much as they want to lock down because war more 1303 01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:21,320 Speaker 1: pro freedom. Well, we're still locking down. Well, all right, 1304 01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:23,519 Speaker 1: we're going to open businesses. See they don't want to 1305 01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:26,800 Speaker 1: open businesses, but we're going to open businesses. But only 1306 01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:32,640 Speaker 1: at like twenty five percent. Oh okay, well we'll tiptoe 1307 01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:35,800 Speaker 1: around it, only fifty percent. Can you believe those Democrats 1308 01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:38,880 Speaker 1: locking down at one hundred? Man, they're tyrants. I think 1309 01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:43,240 Speaker 1: you're both freaking tyrants. I don't acknowledge the authority of 1310 01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:46,120 Speaker 1: any of you to point in a business and say clothes. 1311 01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:49,560 Speaker 1: I don't acknowledge the authority of the federal government to 1312 01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:52,840 Speaker 1: issue any guidance to the Houston Police Department, or LA 1313 01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:58,000 Speaker 1: Police Department or New York City's police department. We have 1314 01:41:58,160 --> 01:42:01,120 Speaker 1: separation of powers for a reason. We have federalism for 1315 01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:10,360 Speaker 1: a reason. And if you think anyone can solve racism 1316 01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:14,360 Speaker 1: from Washington, d C. 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I've been looking forward to this interview. 1333 01:43:53,200 --> 01:44:00,240 Speaker 1: Joining me now professor at Hillsdale College, Doctor day vid 1334 01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:02,880 Speaker 1: As are at a man who knows a lot about 1335 01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:06,160 Speaker 1: the insanity we're seeing out there right now, and I 1336 01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:08,559 Speaker 1: have to make sure I make a good impression with 1337 01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:12,879 Speaker 1: David producer Chris, because my sons, if by some miracle 1338 01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:15,240 Speaker 1: from God they actually make it into college one day, 1339 01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:17,679 Speaker 1: they are going to have to go to Hillsdale because 1340 01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:20,040 Speaker 1: I believe we should burn down the rest of America's 1341 01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:24,160 Speaker 1: university system. Doctor Welcome to the show. Amen to what 1342 01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:28,120 Speaker 1: you just said. Okay, you know what, let's just go 1343 01:44:28,160 --> 01:44:32,120 Speaker 1: ahead and start there. I am a dullard. Everybody knows this. 1344 01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:34,639 Speaker 1: I went to community college, didn't even didn't even get 1345 01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:38,040 Speaker 1: an associates from there. So on the outside looking in, 1346 01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:42,720 Speaker 1: I'm mortified at what we've allowed to happen to our 1347 01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:45,960 Speaker 1: university system. Now you're at Hillsdale, by the grace of God. 1348 01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:51,040 Speaker 1: But what did happen and how did it happen? I mean, 1349 01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:56,320 Speaker 1: we need to begin with realizing how utterly corrupt American 1350 01:44:56,439 --> 01:45:01,240 Speaker 1: universities are. The admission system is a joke, most emphatically 1351 01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:04,639 Speaker 1: not meritocratic. You get in because of your identity, because 1352 01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:07,120 Speaker 1: your parents went there, because they give money, because you 1353 01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:10,639 Speaker 1: row because you want to save the world, unlike Saint 1354 01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:14,759 Speaker 1: China or France, where it's test scores only. And then second, 1355 01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:18,800 Speaker 1: the quote unquote education you get there is a complete choke. 1356 01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:23,160 Speaker 1: You can graduate from Harvard with an English degree having 1357 01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:27,360 Speaker 1: never taken a single class on Shakespeare. They essentially have 1358 01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:31,919 Speaker 1: no requirements beyond the diversity propaganda. You don't read anything. 1359 01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:35,720 Speaker 1: The professors don't care about teaching, the administrators don't care 1360 01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:40,920 Speaker 1: about education. It's social justice, rankings, football fundraising. I mean, 1361 01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:43,080 Speaker 1: I find that a lot of Americans are in your 1362 01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:45,479 Speaker 1: position where maybe they don't have an advanced degree and 1363 01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:48,720 Speaker 1: there's still a little bit intimidated by the universities. But 1364 01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:50,840 Speaker 1: take it from someone who went all the way to 1365 01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:54,120 Speaker 1: the end with the PhD. We should only have utter 1366 01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:57,640 Speaker 1: contempt for the universities. And while I don't want to 1367 01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:00,320 Speaker 1: literally burn them down because we're still one of a 1368 01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:05,360 Speaker 1: free country, we should defund them and constantly humiliate them. 1369 01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:08,240 Speaker 1: Trump should do to them what he did to the media. 1370 01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:10,800 Speaker 1: No more. We have the best universities in the world. 1371 01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:14,080 Speaker 1: They're corrupt, and we should be ashamed that they're so corrupt. 1372 01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:17,360 Speaker 1: How did they get so corrupted? I don't I mean, 1373 01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:19,400 Speaker 1: I have to assume, and maybe this is naive. I mean, 1374 01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:21,680 Speaker 1: tell me if I'm an idiot, please, I assume at 1375 01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:27,519 Speaker 1: some point in time, American universities were wonderful places where 1376 01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:31,160 Speaker 1: you could go get a really outstanding education in certain 1377 01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:35,599 Speaker 1: subjects and emerge a very educated human being. Am I crazy? 1378 01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:37,720 Speaker 1: Was there never a golden era like that? And how 1379 01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:41,439 Speaker 1: did we go from that to this? So there definitely was, 1380 01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:46,080 Speaker 1: And in fairness, there remain pockets of excellence. You know. 1381 01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:48,080 Speaker 1: I think that if you come out with a science 1382 01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:53,519 Speaker 1: degree from mt or Caltech. You still have learned something. Now, 1383 01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:57,439 Speaker 1: keep in mind that the woke Talibans are going after 1384 01:46:57,560 --> 01:47:01,600 Speaker 1: science now because it's since sufficiently verse and so on 1385 01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:03,599 Speaker 1: and so forth. How we got there is Look, it's 1386 01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:08,040 Speaker 1: not complicated. They mounted a challenge to the universities and 1387 01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:11,639 Speaker 1: the sixties, and the people who were tasked with defending 1388 01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:15,600 Speaker 1: the universities when they were confronted by radicals saying, you know, 1389 01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:18,559 Speaker 1: Western civilization has got to go. Or when the black 1390 01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:23,760 Speaker 1: panthers occupied buildings with firearms, they didn't stand up to them, 1391 01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:26,880 Speaker 1: they cared, which, in a sense is kind of what 1392 01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:31,160 Speaker 1: we're seeing today. Civilization is under assault and the people 1393 01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:35,880 Speaker 1: tasked with defending it are being cowards. They're not standing 1394 01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:37,599 Speaker 1: up for the right thing. And so you don't need 1395 01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:41,120 Speaker 1: a majority to affect the revolution. You just need a 1396 01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:45,120 Speaker 1: highly motivated minority that no one is going to oppose. 1397 01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:49,759 Speaker 1: So the universities were taken over progressively by the left, 1398 01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:53,400 Speaker 1: and this was in a sense permitted to happen by 1399 01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:57,439 Speaker 1: those tasked with preserving it, who just proved to be 1400 01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:01,160 Speaker 1: cowards who wouldn't stand up to the radicals. I have 1401 01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:03,519 Speaker 1: been running into a lot of this lately, as I'm 1402 01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:07,240 Speaker 1: sure you have. You cannot turn on the television. It's 1403 01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:10,439 Speaker 1: on my kids video games, It's all over every social 1404 01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:14,040 Speaker 1: media platform. Every idiot celebrity is saying black lives matter, 1405 01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:17,880 Speaker 1: Black lives matter, Black lives matter, acting as if this 1406 01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:22,120 Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter group is some legitimate civil rights group 1407 01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:27,800 Speaker 1: just out there seeking equality. Is that what they're seeking? No, 1408 01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:31,599 Speaker 1: I don't think they are. And if you look at 1409 01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:34,880 Speaker 1: the genealogy there, I think it's interesting and it goes 1410 01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:39,639 Speaker 1: back to the previous question you asked. The overall the 1411 01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:43,920 Speaker 1: way thinks tend to develop is radicals who are not 1412 01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:48,320 Speaker 1: in the university stake out a position. So think of 1413 01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:52,160 Speaker 1: Stokely Carmichael on the Black Power movement in the sixties, 1414 01:48:52,280 --> 01:48:56,120 Speaker 1: or Human Newton and the Black Panthers. They cause a 1415 01:48:56,120 --> 01:49:01,120 Speaker 1: lot of fuss, and then that is institutionalised in the university. 1416 01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:03,479 Speaker 1: So after that, you see you start to set up 1417 01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:08,560 Speaker 1: critical race theory, critical legal studies. You get the academic 1418 01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:13,439 Speaker 1: manufacturing of the endless study of systemic racism everywhere, and 1419 01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:16,240 Speaker 1: then afterwards things go full circle because the people who 1420 01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:19,400 Speaker 1: come out of these universities then go on to work 1421 01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:22,760 Speaker 1: in the corporations to write about black Lives Matter, to 1422 01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:26,000 Speaker 1: support Black Lives Matter, to donate the Black Lives Matter, 1423 01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:28,960 Speaker 1: so on and so forth, and therefore it re enters 1424 01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:33,479 Speaker 1: the system. But the universities are this crucial, crucial node 1425 01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:40,000 Speaker 1: in intellectualizing, deepening, and spreading these radical ideas that in 1426 01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:44,880 Speaker 1: most cases generally don't originate with them. But BLN is 1427 01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:48,439 Speaker 1: I mean, to its credit. You know, BLN does not 1428 01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:52,799 Speaker 1: claim to be heirs to MLK, to the Civil rights movement, 1429 01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:55,280 Speaker 1: to the I Have a Dream speech, you know, things 1430 01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:57,920 Speaker 1: that most Americans look up to. I mean they grow 1431 01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:01,280 Speaker 1: out of the radical rejection of that tradition and the 1432 01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:09,320 Speaker 1: Black power movement. What is critical race theory? I mean 1433 01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:12,720 Speaker 1: it's okay, well, I mean it's a lot. It's a 1434 01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:17,160 Speaker 1: lot of nonsense, is what critical race theory is. It's 1435 01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:22,160 Speaker 1: an academic field of study that has been around for 1436 01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:27,439 Speaker 1: several decades now on universities and whose basic message is 1437 01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:34,920 Speaker 1: racism is absolutely everywhere. It's subconscious, it's embedded in the mind, 1438 01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:41,719 Speaker 1: it's embedded in practices, and the whole of the things 1439 01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:45,560 Speaker 1: we would admire as Americans, the rule of law, the constitution, 1440 01:50:45,720 --> 01:50:49,960 Speaker 1: color blindness, all of that is to be discarded because 1441 01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:55,000 Speaker 1: it just gives cover to the tacit embedded racism that 1442 01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:58,720 Speaker 1: is everywhere. So it's an academic obsession with on the 1443 01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:02,280 Speaker 1: one hand, seeing a racism absolutely everywhere all the time. 1444 01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:08,520 Speaker 1: And then second, and this is even worse, categorically rejecting 1445 01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:11,320 Speaker 1: all of the things we would say, you know, our 1446 01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:14,400 Speaker 1: adequate responses to racism where it does exist. Mainly, we 1447 01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:17,680 Speaker 1: should treat people equally. We should judge people based on 1448 01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:20,160 Speaker 1: the content of their character, not the color of their skin. 1449 01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:23,040 Speaker 1: We should have the rule of law, we should have 1450 01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:26,280 Speaker 1: impartial proceedings in a court of law. All of that 1451 01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:32,439 Speaker 1: they reject. How has it made its way into the 1452 01:51:32,479 --> 01:51:35,599 Speaker 1: American church? Because I will be honest with you, David, 1453 01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:38,880 Speaker 1: I just lost my church last weekend. My pastor, who 1454 01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:42,559 Speaker 1: was previously very saying, stood up and it was a 1455 01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:47,080 Speaker 1: verbatim critical race theory, sermon about Jesus was all about 1456 01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:50,120 Speaker 1: collectivism and social justice and all these other things. And 1457 01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:52,720 Speaker 1: I know my church isn't alone. I know Jews have 1458 01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:55,559 Speaker 1: run into this. I know Christians are running into this. 1459 01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:58,160 Speaker 1: I can't speak to whether or not it's infecting Islam. 1460 01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:01,479 Speaker 1: I'm in America, but it's ad How did that happen? 1461 01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:06,280 Speaker 1: That's a story I don't know as well, but you know, 1462 01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:10,160 Speaker 1: you may know that at the turn of the last century, 1463 01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:13,960 Speaker 1: when progressivism is really picking up steam in America, gets 1464 01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:16,920 Speaker 1: a foothold in the universities, you get the rise of 1465 01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:21,160 Speaker 1: the social Gospel movement, which is about, you know, bringing 1466 01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:24,400 Speaker 1: the spirit of social justice into Christianity. If you want 1467 01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:29,080 Speaker 1: to use high spolutant language. It's about imminentitizing the escaton. 1468 01:52:29,720 --> 01:52:34,080 Speaker 1: It's about saying that the Biblical vision of the next 1469 01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:40,080 Speaker 1: world heaven can actually be realized in this world here today. 1470 01:52:40,200 --> 01:52:43,280 Speaker 1: So it's rechanneling the spirit of the Bible not to 1471 01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:47,160 Speaker 1: gaining salvation, but to building heaven on earth. It makes 1472 01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:52,680 Speaker 1: enormous inroads in the mainline Protestant denominations, and you can 1473 01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:56,000 Speaker 1: think of evangelicals as the and the fundamentalist as people 1474 01:52:56,040 --> 01:52:58,880 Speaker 1: who are trying to escape some of that. David, I 1475 01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:02,360 Speaker 1: apologize running up against the break. Is there any way 1476 01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:04,080 Speaker 1: I could get you for a few minutes on the 1477 01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:06,280 Speaker 1: back end of this break in one more segment with 1478 01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:10,200 Speaker 1: me outstanding David Azrad Hills there college, We're going to 1479 01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:12,400 Speaker 1: be back with more of this to cap off the show. 1480 01:53:12,400 --> 01:53:26,160 Speaker 1: Hang on one second, Jesse Kelly. I have a long, 1481 01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:31,759 Speaker 1: long list of things I dislike. Unexpected car repairs are 1482 01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:34,600 Speaker 1: pretty much at the top of that list. Now, I 1483 01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:37,360 Speaker 1: know what you're saying, Well, Jesse, nobody enjoys those. Yeah, 1484 01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:41,760 Speaker 1: but it's a burning, burning hatred for me because I 1485 01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:44,800 Speaker 1: try to do all the things necessary to avoid it, right, 1486 01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:46,639 Speaker 1: you know, the same way you do well. I get 1487 01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:48,840 Speaker 1: my regular oil changes, I make sure I take care 1488 01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:51,120 Speaker 1: of my tires. I do these things. But the truth 1489 01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:53,759 Speaker 1: of the matter is this, there are only two kinds 1490 01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:56,200 Speaker 1: of cars in this world. They've only ever made two kinds. 1491 01:53:56,760 --> 01:54:00,240 Speaker 1: Ones that have had problems and ones that will. At 1492 01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:02,640 Speaker 1: some point, your car is going to have a problem, 1493 01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:06,160 Speaker 1: and that bill's coming unless you have Protect my Car. 1494 01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:09,800 Speaker 1: If you own a car, truck, or suv made from 1495 01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:14,080 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine are higher. You could stop paying for 1496 01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:16,160 Speaker 1: car repairs, but you have to find out if you 1497 01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:20,880 Speaker 1: qualify dial Star Star one two four four. That's Star 1498 01:54:21,120 --> 01:54:24,639 Speaker 1: Star one two four four. See if you qualify Protect 1499 01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:39,160 Speaker 1: my Car. We are back with Professor David Azar out 1500 01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:44,200 Speaker 1: of Hillsdale College. All right, if the American education system 1501 01:54:44,320 --> 01:54:46,840 Speaker 1: is a disaster, which you sound like you agree it is, 1502 01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:49,600 Speaker 1: what do we do to fix it if we can't 1503 01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:54,320 Speaker 1: bulldoze the universities, like I want, what do you want? Well, 1504 01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:57,160 Speaker 1: I think I told you that the two approaches have 1505 01:54:57,320 --> 01:55:00,640 Speaker 1: to be. On the one hand, you defund them, which 1506 01:55:00,720 --> 01:55:06,080 Speaker 1: means we stopped sending I mean subsidizing higher education the 1507 01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:10,400 Speaker 1: way we do. And then second, I think they need 1508 01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:15,240 Speaker 1: to be humiliated, attacked, exposed. The Charlatanism needs to be 1509 01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:18,640 Speaker 1: called out. We need to delegitimize it. And I really 1510 01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:21,760 Speaker 1: think we need to create alternative routes to success in 1511 01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:24,920 Speaker 1: America to move away from this idea that everyone needs 1512 01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:27,320 Speaker 1: to go to college. And look, if we were to 1513 01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:32,240 Speaker 1: get serious about rebuilding the manufacturing base in America, that 1514 01:55:32,240 --> 01:55:35,840 Speaker 1: would actually harm the universities because it would push people 1515 01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:40,440 Speaker 1: into acquiring a technical education rather than going into the colleges. 1516 01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:43,680 Speaker 1: So we should still have universities were a great power 1517 01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:46,280 Speaker 1: and I want us to remain one. But you know 1518 01:55:46,640 --> 01:55:49,680 Speaker 1: what the right has been trying to do to universities 1519 01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:53,240 Speaker 1: since phil Buckley started complaining about this in the nineteen fifties. 1520 01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:55,640 Speaker 1: He wrote God in Man at Yale, which was the 1521 01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:59,640 Speaker 1: first conservative book attacking the universities. At the time. It 1522 01:55:59,720 --> 01:56:03,240 Speaker 1: was because they were maligning Christianity. We've been dealing this 1523 01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:06,640 Speaker 1: for seventy years, you know, writing the books that say 1524 01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:09,400 Speaker 1: how the universities are bad. We not only have nothing 1525 01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:13,080 Speaker 1: to show for it, it's only gotten worse. So I 1526 01:56:13,080 --> 01:56:16,400 Speaker 1: think the Right needs to get serious about going to 1527 01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:20,640 Speaker 1: war with the universities and moving beyond the timid approach 1528 01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:24,240 Speaker 1: that it's been adopting for decades that has yielded nothing. 1529 01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:27,120 Speaker 1: I totally agree. And all I see out there, David, 1530 01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:31,440 Speaker 1: is an unwillingness to acknowledge that it is a war. 1531 01:56:31,720 --> 01:56:35,040 Speaker 1: They're fighting a war, they think it is, they're winning, 1532 01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:37,840 Speaker 1: and we continue to act as if while we just 1533 01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:43,200 Speaker 1: have a political disagreement, it's not just a war, Jesse, 1534 01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:47,800 Speaker 1: it's an insurgency that we're mounting. Because we lost the war, 1535 01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:51,160 Speaker 1: we are now a minority. And by we, I mean 1536 01:56:51,400 --> 01:56:56,640 Speaker 1: patriotic Americans who broadly speaking, like the country and broadly 1537 01:56:56,720 --> 01:57:00,760 Speaker 1: speaking believe in what you know. Up until sixty years 1538 01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:04,640 Speaker 1: ago was really nothing to be contested, with the exception 1539 01:57:04,720 --> 01:57:06,760 Speaker 1: of Jim Crow in the South, the idea that we 1540 01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:09,040 Speaker 1: should all be whole under the law, that there should 1541 01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:11,840 Speaker 1: be equality of opportunity, broadly speaking, that there should be 1542 01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:17,680 Speaker 1: free markets. You know, the basic American propositions are now 1543 01:57:18,720 --> 01:57:22,160 Speaker 1: actively denied by all of the elite institution. So we've 1544 01:57:22,200 --> 01:57:25,120 Speaker 1: talked about the universities and the churches, but please let 1545 01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:28,560 Speaker 1: us not forget the K twelve system. Let us not 1546 01:57:28,600 --> 01:57:31,480 Speaker 1: forget the bureaucracy in the deep State, and of course 1547 01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:34,320 Speaker 1: let us not forget the media, and as anyone who's 1548 01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:38,920 Speaker 1: been on Twitter for any time, the corporate propaganda emanating 1549 01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:44,800 Speaker 1: from the fortune they command all of the commanding heights 1550 01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:49,520 Speaker 1: in American society, the most powerful institutional sectors, and they 1551 01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:53,400 Speaker 1: use it to on the one hand, push their propaganda 1552 01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:57,560 Speaker 1: and on the other to mercilessly punish people who descend 1553 01:57:57,600 --> 01:58:00,600 Speaker 1: from it. So, by all means, we should go to war, 1554 01:58:00,680 --> 01:58:02,360 Speaker 1: but we should do it in a smart way that 1555 01:58:02,480 --> 01:58:05,520 Speaker 1: understands that. Look, in a certain sense, this is no 1556 01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:09,280 Speaker 1: longer our country. We want to reclaim it, and we 1557 01:58:09,320 --> 01:58:13,000 Speaker 1: need tactics that are appropriate, rather than deluding ourselves into 1558 01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:15,840 Speaker 1: thinking that, you know, there was a Reagan Revolution and 1559 01:58:15,880 --> 01:58:18,600 Speaker 1: a English revolution and that this is a center right 1560 01:58:18,680 --> 01:58:21,800 Speaker 1: country and pretty much everyone agrees with us. Even if 1561 01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:24,520 Speaker 1: we have majority support for many of our positions, which 1562 01:58:24,520 --> 01:58:27,440 Speaker 1: we do. The problem is is that the people who 1563 01:58:27,480 --> 01:58:30,680 Speaker 1: support us don't have much power, and in effect, what 1564 01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:33,560 Speaker 1: they can do is voice the protest vote once in 1565 01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:36,840 Speaker 1: a while that you may elect a Trump, but then 1566 01:58:36,840 --> 01:58:40,440 Speaker 1: he's completely maligned and boxed in from all sides. So 1567 01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:43,600 Speaker 1: we need a reassessment of how we're waging this war. 1568 01:58:44,320 --> 01:58:46,280 Speaker 1: I love that. I love what you said about just 1569 01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:49,200 Speaker 1: accepting that we've lost the war and now we have 1570 01:58:49,280 --> 01:58:52,320 Speaker 1: to fight it more as rebels than as well. Everyone's 1571 01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:55,640 Speaker 1: kind of with us anyway, It'll all be fine. Hopefully 1572 01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:59,160 Speaker 1: people are waking up that it's not all fine. David 1573 01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:01,120 Speaker 1: as are at Thank you. Where can people get more 1574 01:59:01,120 --> 01:59:06,560 Speaker 1: of your stuff? I don't do social media, but if 1575 01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:09,080 Speaker 1: you google my name you can find some of the 1576 01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:12,800 Speaker 1: things I've written. I do want to say one positive 1577 01:59:12,840 --> 01:59:15,800 Speaker 1: thing because I don't want people to lose spirit. We 1578 01:59:15,880 --> 01:59:19,800 Speaker 1: do have something like a silent majority that agrees with us. 1579 01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:25,720 Speaker 1: They just need leadership. We just need better tactics, more resources. 1580 01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:29,120 Speaker 1: But mine is not a counsel for despair. Mine is 1581 01:59:29,120 --> 01:59:32,880 Speaker 1: a counsel for fighting harder and better. David, thank you 1582 01:59:32,920 --> 01:59:36,560 Speaker 1: so much, man. We will have you back. My pleasure, 1583 01:59:36,680 --> 01:59:40,920 Speaker 1: good talking to you. Appreciate you. I'm glad he laid 1584 01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:42,640 Speaker 1: it out like that because I've been feeling it now. 1585 01:59:42,680 --> 01:59:45,080 Speaker 1: Granted he echoed a lot of the things I've been saying, 1586 01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:48,800 Speaker 1: But in all seriousness, we delude ourselves and well, we've 1587 01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:52,600 Speaker 1: got Donald Trump and we have the numbers you have. 1588 01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:57,440 Speaker 1: Those two things are too are true, but they have 1589 01:59:57,640 --> 02:00:05,560 Speaker 1: everything else, everything else. If you had to choose, if 1590 02:00:05,560 --> 02:00:08,080 Speaker 1: you were looking at this as a political battle, which 1591 02:00:08,080 --> 02:00:12,120 Speaker 1: you should, and you were choosing to wargame it, and 1592 02:00:12,200 --> 02:00:14,080 Speaker 1: you were going to pick a side, I want to 1593 02:00:14,120 --> 02:00:17,760 Speaker 1: pick what I want. I want to fight with that side, brother, 1594 02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:22,520 Speaker 1: you'd pick their side every single time. We've got to 1595 02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:25,680 Speaker 1: start fighting against it. We've got to start chipping away 1596 02:00:25,840 --> 02:00:33,560 Speaker 1: at it, or we're going to get a divorce. We're 1597 02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:39,760 Speaker 1: going to get a messy national divorce. We are. That 1598 02:00:39,960 --> 02:00:43,200 Speaker 1: is not radical. That is the history of the world. 1599 02:00:44,480 --> 02:00:49,640 Speaker 1: When nations fracture like this, eventually borders just flat out 1600 02:00:49,680 --> 02:01:21,880 Speaker 1: get redrawn. And that's what we're facing. Ay, Honestly, your phone, 1601 02:01:22,520 --> 02:01:27,880 Speaker 1: on average, is dirtier than a public restroom. The first 1602 02:01:27,920 --> 02:01:31,280 Speaker 1: time somebody told me that, I frankly didn't believe them, 1603 02:01:31,320 --> 02:01:34,040 Speaker 1: and then they explained and it made a lot more sense. 1604 02:01:34,080 --> 02:01:37,040 Speaker 1: You see, your phone you touch it all day. Then 1605 02:01:37,040 --> 02:01:38,840 Speaker 1: you touch a doorknob, then you touch your phone. Then 1606 02:01:38,840 --> 02:01:40,520 Speaker 1: you touch your face, then you touch your phone, then 1607 02:01:40,600 --> 02:01:42,840 Speaker 1: you shake your then you shake hands with somebody who 1608 02:01:42,920 --> 02:01:44,920 Speaker 1: just touched a million things. Then you touch your phone. 1609 02:01:45,280 --> 02:01:47,120 Speaker 1: Then you take your phone and you set it down 1610 02:01:47,160 --> 02:01:50,040 Speaker 1: on that restaurant table. You don't know when it's been disinfected. 1611 02:01:50,040 --> 02:01:52,360 Speaker 1: You set it down on your desk at work. You 1612 02:01:52,480 --> 02:01:55,080 Speaker 1: drop it once on your kitchen floor where your kids 1613 02:01:55,160 --> 02:01:57,720 Speaker 1: just walk through, and who knows where they just walked. 1614 02:01:57,760 --> 02:02:00,600 Speaker 1: Are you starting to get how dirty your phone is? 1615 02:02:01,280 --> 02:02:04,000 Speaker 1: And now you add that day after day after day, 1616 02:02:04,120 --> 02:02:07,880 Speaker 1: it's gross. Get a Clean Phone Pro. It disinfects ninety 1617 02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:12,080 Speaker 1: nine percent of the bacteria on your phone using UBC lights. 1618 02:02:12,120 --> 02:02:16,600 Speaker 1: Go to America firstshop dot com. It's America, firstshop dot com. 1619 02:02:16,800 --> 02:02:19,640 Speaker 1: Get a Clean Phone Pro. Used to co jesse at checkout, 1620 02:02:19,840 --> 02:02:39,280 Speaker 1: free two day shipping. The Seattle people have seated control 1621 02:02:40,400 --> 02:02:43,360 Speaker 1: of parts of town to the writers. I'm not even 1622 02:02:43,400 --> 02:02:49,200 Speaker 1: making that up. They've seated control of it. Um let 1623 02:02:49,240 --> 02:02:55,080 Speaker 1: them have it, build a big wall around it, let 1624 02:02:55,120 --> 02:03:00,120 Speaker 1: them know you're on your own, enjoy your city. Let 1625 02:03:00,200 --> 02:03:03,360 Speaker 1: us know how it works out for you. Email me 1626 02:03:03,720 --> 02:03:12,400 Speaker 1: tomorrow is ask doctor Jesse Friday. I'm just kidding. It's Thursday. No, 1627 02:03:12,480 --> 02:03:14,680 Speaker 1: but you can email me Jesse at Jesse Kelly Show 1628 02:03:14,760 --> 02:03:19,040 Speaker 1: dot com. Jesse at Jesse Kelly show dot com. The 1629 02:03:19,120 --> 02:03:24,960 Speaker 1: whole show is available on iHeart, Google, Spotify, iTunes. Subscribe 1630 02:03:25,240 --> 02:03:29,280 Speaker 1: on iTunes, leave a five star review, talk about how 1631 02:03:29,320 --> 02:03:32,080 Speaker 1: handsome I am. We'll be back. I have a lot 1632 02:03:32,080 --> 02:03:34,640 Speaker 1: more fun tomorrow. It's already gonna be a cool show. 1633 02:03:36,600 --> 02:04:21,840 Speaker 1: That's all. This is a Jesse Kelly show. You know 1634 02:04:23,440 --> 02:04:26,280 Speaker 1: your house smells, don't get mad. Don't get mad in 1635 02:04:26,320 --> 02:04:28,160 Speaker 1: my house smells too. I'm not I'm not indicting you. 1636 02:04:28,200 --> 02:04:30,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure you keep a clean home, but just time 1637 02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:35,120 Speaker 1: means you're going to acquire smells. Whether those are cooking 1638 02:04:35,240 --> 02:04:38,280 Speaker 1: smells that get in your paint, your carpet, maybe their 1639 02:04:38,320 --> 02:04:41,880 Speaker 1: animals smells. Maybe you're a smoker, or someone else was 1640 02:04:41,960 --> 02:04:46,960 Speaker 1: just living creates smells. 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