Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janne Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast.
Speaker 1: I just got a funny text message from my lawyer. Um, actually,
Speaker 1: well actually East and I would love for you to
Speaker 1: come on on this, uh this topic. Um. Like I said,
Speaker 1: it's this has not been easy at all. But my
Speaker 1: lawyer goes, well, that's one way to do it. And
Speaker 1: there was an article like Janna Kramer poses topless after
Speaker 1: following divorce. He goes, well, that's one way to approach it.
Speaker 1: It was like the timing could not have been worse.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean for this to happen. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I can see it. I can see it
Speaker 1: from that perspective. I mean, but then also like my
Speaker 1: other girlfriends are like, well, like when you're ready, and
Speaker 1: I'm just like I like, oh my gosh. Um. I
Speaker 1: mean I even my doctor and I joke about it.
Speaker 1: He's like, well, I gave you a great divorce body,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, that's not like why I want like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. Um, but no, I'm the I I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's something in a weird way. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like, well that's kind of cool because I was
Speaker 1: always embarrassed, you know, So now if if and when
Speaker 1: I venture out onto the scene, I might have a
Speaker 1: little bit more you know confidence. I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I saw the picture. I shot it alike, I double tapped,
Speaker 1: just as as your co worker, as a as you're
Speaker 1: just you look great, just very I'm looking very respectfully.
Speaker 1: Just wanted to bring that home. I just, honestly, I
Speaker 1: just I wanted to do it because look, either way,
Speaker 1: either if I had my you know, the mom boobs
Speaker 1: or you know the implants, I want to feel and
Speaker 1: I want people to feel good no matter what, like
Speaker 1: however that looks, however that makes you feel. And truly,
Speaker 1: I was just doing it for myself because I just
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just I really wanted. Um, it's
Speaker 1: something that I wanted for me, and I think it's
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people like you should just
Speaker 1: be proud of the body that you have, regardless, and
Speaker 1: I was, like, I am very proud of it. But
Speaker 1: I also like I wanted to do something for me
Speaker 1: as well, And I think that's okay to be able
Speaker 1: to do something for yourself. Just like I work out,
Speaker 1: I work out for myself. I don't work out for
Speaker 1: anyone else. I don't work out to like, you know,
Speaker 1: compete with this person's legs or do this, like I
Speaker 1: work out because I want to work out. And that's
Speaker 1: kind of the same thing that I felt like with
Speaker 1: getting the breast augmentation. I was like, okay, like I
Speaker 1: want this for me, not for my then X or
Speaker 1: the next guy. I don't know, so even weird, like
Speaker 1: thinking about that Jesus. Yeah. No, that's something my wife
Speaker 1: talks about all the time. Is because there's a lot
Speaker 1: of like weird dudes that are always like, why do
Speaker 1: women do you know, get their boottox and stuff? But
Speaker 1: it's not about that. It's about what, like what you
Speaker 1: want and how you want to look. It's your body.
Speaker 1: It's uh, you know, it's I don't know, I just
Speaker 1: don't see any problem with it if that's what if
Speaker 1: that's what someone wants to do. Yeah, I agree, and
Speaker 1: I think it's I think right now though, and I
Speaker 1: love that we're in the age of you know, loving
Speaker 1: your body for the way that it is. But I
Speaker 1: also think it's okay if the person wants to work
Speaker 1: out a ton, or if the person wants to you know,
Speaker 1: get fake boobs, are gonna knows, like whatever it is,
Speaker 1: to make yourself feel better. I think that's like I
Speaker 1: just want, I wish. And I've been so thankful for
Speaker 1: the people on Instagram because I think people are just
Speaker 1: wanting to celebrate people for whatever they want to do.
Speaker 1: And I love that. It's exactly great. You want to
Speaker 1: get a boob job, get a boob job, you want
Speaker 1: to know, like whatever you don't awesome, like whatever makes
Speaker 1: you happy at the end of the day. But I
Speaker 1: have a little confession to make, um because a lot
Speaker 1: of people on here, well, no, it's not that jezy,
Speaker 1: it's like a good, healthy, juicy Um, I'm ready. I
Speaker 1: talked a lot about this on this podcast about anxiety,
Speaker 1: Like I've suffered from anxiety for a very very long time,
Speaker 1: and I I would always wake up, and I know
Speaker 1: I've said this on here. I'd always wake up at
Speaker 1: three o'clock in the morning and have like the worst
Speaker 1: anxiety ever. And that came from the PTSD of my
Speaker 1: first abusive relationship. And when you know, Mike and I,
Speaker 1: even though it's not final, but divorce, just say divorced,
Speaker 1: like broke up, divorce, whatever. Um. My biggest fear is has,
Speaker 1: has and always will be. I don't want to be alone,
Speaker 1: Like I'm afraid of being alone. And like even before Mike,
Speaker 1: like I was always like afraid of being alone, and
Speaker 1: so I would even have like my girlfriend Pamelin, who
Speaker 1: came on here um a few weeks ago as a guest,
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, girl, can you just leave
Speaker 1: your phone on? Because this is like this is going
Speaker 1: to be the hardest season for me. Is because I
Speaker 1: struggle with being alone. I don't like it. I wake
Speaker 1: up with anxiety and I gotta tell you, so, I
Speaker 1: still wake up in the middle of the night, but
Speaker 1: I don't have anxiety anymore, I know. And I told
Speaker 1: my therapist. I just got the phone with her and
Speaker 1: I was telling her and I was like, it's the
Speaker 1: craziest thing. I'm like, usually like and I just got
Speaker 1: back from NAPA for you know, for my one brick wines,
Speaker 1: and I was like, usually I have anxiety when I travel,
Speaker 1: I have anxiety when I do this or like that.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, since exiting this relationship, I don't have
Speaker 1: any more anxiety. Like I'm sure it's maybe there, but
Speaker 1: like not it would have. It's just the craziest thing.
Speaker 1: And She's like because and she was saying She's like,
Speaker 1: because you had so much fear and doubt and it
Speaker 1: was just dragging you under that now that it's not
Speaker 1: you don't have to hold any of that anymore. It's like,
Speaker 1: you don't you don't realize the stuff that your body
Speaker 1: is going through when you're in that heaviness of of
Speaker 1: everything going on. And it was like, it's been like
Speaker 1: the craziest revelation, Like holy crap, like what was holding
Speaker 1: holding me down? And I was and it's it's like
Speaker 1: I genuinely like almost started crying last night because I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't have any anxiety and this is
Speaker 1: it's just weird. It's like so I just I wanted
Speaker 1: to say that because I think when people go through
Speaker 1: hard times because I'm I'm still like in the thick
Speaker 1: of it, I still have you know, still crying in
Speaker 1: the car and you know, crying at night. But I
Speaker 1: think it's important to celebrate little victories. And that's been
Speaker 1: and to me, that's a huge victory to feel that
Speaker 1: wait of anxiety lifted off of me. That's something that
Speaker 1: I've dealt with my entire life, and it was the
Speaker 1: worst when I was in the relationship with Mike. It
Speaker 1: just was. I mean, I I would have the worst
Speaker 1: panic attacks and now it's like when I usually would
Speaker 1: it's I don't know, it's so it's I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just want to like tell people that, you know what,
Speaker 1: sometimes you might not even realize what's dragging you under
Speaker 1: until you're out that And it's one of those things
Speaker 1: that because I'm sure, like I mean, so much second
Speaker 1: guessing with with something like this, you know, but but
Speaker 1: when something like this happens, you have that kind of
Speaker 1: revelations like Okay, I'm on the right path, I'm doing
Speaker 1: the right thing. Yeah, it's yeah, totally. It's a kind
Speaker 1: of reassurance like, Okay, there was definitely something that must
Speaker 1: have been it was obviously triggering me, although like all
Speaker 1: the heaviness and the stuff and the doubt and the fear,
Speaker 1: like obviously that was causing my anxiety to be really bad.
Speaker 1: And so the fact that it's literally gone and I
Speaker 1: don't have like that anymore just kind of shows you, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is this was the right step and I am
Speaker 1: getting I'm I feel healthier, and I think it's you know,
Speaker 1: that's why I wanted to share it because there's so
Speaker 1: many people that have deemed me and they're like how,
Speaker 1: like how did you? Like, I'm stuck and I don't
Speaker 1: know how to get out, and it's and I did
Speaker 1: not feel this on day one. Day one, I was
Speaker 1: literally on the ground having a panic attack. I told
Speaker 1: my best friend Catherine, who slept over. I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't take my kids to school. She's like, yes,
Speaker 1: you can. You need to get up, and I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a panic attack, Like I'm gonna like
Speaker 1: She's like, you need to get up and do it.
Speaker 1: Stop saying you're not. She's like, I'm gonna tough love
Speaker 1: you right now. She's like I will stay here until
Speaker 1: your house till you get back, but like you are
Speaker 1: taking your kids to school. You're getting off of the floor.
Speaker 1: And I'm so thankful she did that because if not,
Speaker 1: I probably would have stayed in that anxious state and
Speaker 1: then like, oh, I can't do that because I'm too afraid.
Speaker 1: Now it's like no, like I'm doing it and now
Speaker 1: nothing's holding me back and I'm not waking up in
Speaker 1: the middle of night. So I'm like, little teeny victories.
Speaker 1: I need to celebrate. It makes me so happy. I'm
Speaker 1: just and everyone listening you like you'll, I hope hopefully
Speaker 1: you guys feel those and celebrate the little victories along
Speaker 1: the way, because it's important to know how far you
Speaker 1: will come when you go through anything, whether it's a
Speaker 1: job loss, whether it's you know, relationship ending, like, whether
Speaker 1: it's it's like just baby steps, and celebrate, celebrate those
Speaker 1: moments that you have a little bit of peace and
Speaker 1: a little less anxiety. Uh. So today I'm excited because
Speaker 1: I have a guest co host and he is someone
Speaker 1: that I semi worked with. UM. We were on a
Speaker 1: little dancing show together, and he's kind of been in
Speaker 1: and out of the tabloids recently, so UM pumped to
Speaker 1: co host with him, and I will bring him on
Speaker 1: the show UM after the break. Okay, So I am
Speaker 1: so honored to have um a guest co host today
Speaker 1: and that would be none other than the one and
Speaker 1: only Kio. What's it? Yes? There are you? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm complained. How are you doing? You know that's a
Speaker 1: loaded question, but today I'm really good. I'm I'm happy. UM,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling light and UM you know, yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be here with you. So thanks for
Speaker 1: coming on. Wine down and co hosting with me. I
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. So for those of you um listening,
Speaker 1: Kio is one of the amazing professional dancers on Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars. And I had the privilege of being
Speaker 1: able to meet Kyo on my season, and I will
Speaker 1: say this, you were by far the nicest, friendliest, most
Speaker 1: welcoming pro on the show. And it just well, and
Speaker 1: I think you because you were you pro that season.
Speaker 1: I think it was the next year, but like I
Speaker 1: just remember like we because we had like dance together,
Speaker 1: or like you were helping, like you were just like
Speaker 1: so nice, and I just I just I always appreciated
Speaker 1: like your kindness. So yeah, because I felt like I
Speaker 1: always feel like Dancing with the Stars such a family.
Speaker 1: So who ever comes into the family, I always say,
Speaker 1: all the celebs coming into the season, it's like they
Speaker 1: come into our Christmas dinner every night, you know. So
Speaker 1: it's like you want to make people feel at home,
Speaker 1: you know, because we all make Dancing with the Star,
Speaker 1: the celebs, the pros, the producers, like we all make
Speaker 1: the show. So I feel I feel like we need
Speaker 1: to make you guys feel at home and comfortable. Whatever
Speaker 1: you need, we got you. You know. That's why they
Speaker 1: say the pros are like, you know everything pretty much.
Speaker 1: You know. So you when did you start dancing? I
Speaker 1: started dancing when I was five years old, and I
Speaker 1: thought it was bom dancing. So I've been doing that since.
Speaker 1: And where did your were you in in South Africa
Speaker 1: then or South Africa? When did you move to the States.
Speaker 1: I moved to the state twenty two thousand and twelve,
Speaker 1: and I went to Florida at first, because I did
Speaker 1: I did a show called burned the Floor for yeah
Speaker 1: in Campa Florida, Bush Guidence, Oh my god. And then
Speaker 1: I traveled them around the world. And then twenty fourteen
Speaker 1: I came on Dancing Starts in August. That's awesome. Nine.
Speaker 1: So how did you What was it like for you,
Speaker 1: you know, living in South Africa being a five year
Speaker 1: old and wanting to do ballroom dancing. Well, it didn't
Speaker 1: start with me just going to ballroom dancing. I think
Speaker 1: I just grew up watching Michael Jackson a lot. And
Speaker 1: there was a show in so that we're called the Summit.
Speaker 1: The Summit followed Top Ballroom Cup bo Room Dancer Couples. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in South Africa. So I used to watch it on
Speaker 1: tiv I just fell in love with like music and dance,
Speaker 1: and like see Michael Jackson dance all the time, and
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I can do this, you know.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and then I just fell in love with
Speaker 1: with dancing. I remember playing soccer with all my friends
Speaker 1: is like, bro, listen, dancing. I mean, soccer is not
Speaker 1: for you. I mean, you can play soccer, but it's
Speaker 1: not for you for sure. I'm gonna take you somewhere.
Speaker 1: So he took me where my house is like houses
Speaker 1: down there's a lady who started at dance school. And
Speaker 1: then he took me there and I remember walking in.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is gonna be fun. Saw like
Speaker 1: the guys dakes me the girls, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be fun. This is why I want
Speaker 1: to be And he did it for the girls. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it doesn't surprise me that much because you are one
Speaker 1: of the best flirts out there. So no, no, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not a flirt. I'm not. I'm just that's an
Speaker 1: okay thing. I you know, that's you know, I'm it
Speaker 1: just means love, you know, Yeah, I have I have
Speaker 1: so much love to give. I have so much love
Speaker 1: to give. I feel like I just exude love inside me.
Speaker 1: You know, everything that I do, everything that I even
Speaker 1: talking to my friends or like out there at the
Speaker 1: grocery store. I just have so much love to just
Speaker 1: pull to people. So was it tough at all? Like
Speaker 1: did you, as a you know, guy in dancing, Like,
Speaker 1: did you ever get bullied or um? I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: a good bully because this is how my day went.
Speaker 1: Like I'll go to school in the morning, I'll stay
Speaker 1: in school for like another two hours for like what
Speaker 1: we call study. I went to a Catholic school, so
Speaker 1: we had like sisters, and we no sports, no extra activities.
Speaker 1: It was just like school. Study. Study is like a
Speaker 1: like an hour and a half away. You know. If
Speaker 1: you had questions about something like your whatever subject, whatever,
Speaker 1: you go ask right and then from they go home.
Speaker 1: When I get home, my mom will say, make sure
Speaker 1: that your school uniform is clean, make sure that your
Speaker 1: shoes are clean, make sure that your books are ready
Speaker 1: for tomorrow, blah blah blah. And then from there, I'll
Speaker 1: go to dancing. After dancing, and then I didn't even
Speaker 1: have time Sometimes I don't have time to play with
Speaker 1: my friends, like it was just like constant school dancing
Speaker 1: every day every single day. And then like on Sundays,
Speaker 1: it's like uh church with my parents and my sisters,
Speaker 1: and then when we come back home, we eat and
Speaker 1: it's like a family day. We all sit together, we
Speaker 1: all chill. There's no you know, like there's not like
Speaker 1: busitors coming over. And one funny story, actually my mom
Speaker 1: talking about girls. My mom never wanted any girl to
Speaker 1: come to my house. Never. I really remember when girl
Speaker 1: came to my house. You just like to bring something
Speaker 1: from me from school. And then she said, don't even
Speaker 1: touch that that gate. And I was like, she goes,
Speaker 1: You'll only be able to do that when you out
Speaker 1: of my house, and I was like, okay, right enow Um.
Speaker 1: In a way, I think it helped in a way
Speaker 1: in situation, and we'll get into that. But well, speaking
Speaker 1: of you know, relationships, you were just in a very
Speaker 1: public breakup and you know, I can I can definitely relate,
Speaker 1: and I'm curious, like how you dealt with the public.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's tough, Like I reading tabloids and
Speaker 1: you know, not a part of me like wanted to
Speaker 1: reach out to you, but I knew that you were
Speaker 1: like probably getting bombarded, um, and you have to like
Speaker 1: walk through that season. But I mean that's that's been
Speaker 1: your first pretty public relationship, right, yeah, my first How
Speaker 1: how was it for you to deal with you know,
Speaker 1: reading things and um, I feel like the first few days,
Speaker 1: I like, I would read things and I'll be like,
Speaker 1: you know, what what does this do for me? Like
Speaker 1: what is it doing for me for myself? Like reading this?
Speaker 1: Like I go, I feel when I read something negative
Speaker 1: and I feel like this like cringe in me and
Speaker 1: I'm like and then I read something positive and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, like the change of energy, the change
Speaker 1: of the shoot right, yeah, different heads. So I go,
Speaker 1: what if I don't read anything, then I'm like, don't
Speaker 1: look at anything, just block yourself from that everything, right,
Speaker 1: And just my faith and talking to my aunt all
Speaker 1: the time and my family back home and my good
Speaker 1: friend um and my publicist all the time. It just
Speaker 1: gave me so much strength. And talking to other other
Speaker 1: friends and it just gave me strength to stay away
Speaker 1: and to know my worth and what as a person,
Speaker 1: what do finds me that this define me? Whether good
Speaker 1: or bad? It doesn't define me? And no, it doesn't,
Speaker 1: you know, the person we defines me is what I
Speaker 1: believe who who quire is right? If if people say, oh,
Speaker 1: he's a cheater, he's this and this and this, I'm like,
Speaker 1: but no, you don't. You don't know me, So why
Speaker 1: do you Why why do you say what? You just say?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So I feel like not,
Speaker 1: I feel like actually I know that for me, what
Speaker 1: got me through it was just staying away from the media,
Speaker 1: keeping my my silence and staying away from everything and
Speaker 1: just be like, you know what, God will sort this out. Man,
Speaker 1: He's done so many times in my life in so
Speaker 1: many situation, whether good or bad. I leave it out
Speaker 1: to him. You know. I prayed a lot. I prayed
Speaker 1: a lot. I yeah, you know, I think God pulled
Speaker 1: me through. I am confident enough to say that God
Speaker 1: put me through this. Yeah. Do you have any do
Speaker 1: you have any regrets from anything in that relationship that
Speaker 1: they You're like, I'm gonna do this differently in the
Speaker 1: next one. Um, No, No, I don't, I don't. I
Speaker 1: just I just there's just so many things for me.
Speaker 1: I I said, I have this thing ritual if I'm
Speaker 1: if I break up with a friend, you know, just
Speaker 1: hold me or like a best or whatever I go through.
Speaker 1: I have a seat outside in a bout. When I
Speaker 1: sit down and let's take a pen and a book
Speaker 1: or a paper whatever. There's two columns in there's two
Speaker 1: columns negative or positive. Right, And I write everything that
Speaker 1: I feel that's it doesn't do do me justice, it
Speaker 1: doesn't make me feel this is worth it for me? Right,
Speaker 1: And I write something that I'm like, oh my God, okay, cool.
Speaker 1: So then if negative is more than the positive, then
Speaker 1: I'll scratch that and I'll light a fire and I
Speaker 1: let God like and I have this straight I think
Speaker 1: I take it from my mom. Actually, I have the
Speaker 1: strength of when I let go of something done like
Speaker 1: it's like it never happened. It's like cut never happened.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm like sometimes I'm like, wow, I don't
Speaker 1: have that feeling because when something happens, I give it
Speaker 1: a chance. I'm like, how can I fight? How can
Speaker 1: I fight? In which way? Like, let me fight, let
Speaker 1: me do this, let me let me figure it out,
Speaker 1: you know. But if there's no strength in me to
Speaker 1: do that, and with the with the with the help
Speaker 1: of God, I I just let go. I literally let go.
Speaker 1: I just and I think that's one of my strength
Speaker 1: that I can let go. I can deal with it
Speaker 1: and let go. But this was rough. Why I say
Speaker 1: that because like the person I turned to when things
Speaker 1: hit the firm, it's my mom. And not having her
Speaker 1: it was like and now, like there was days with
Speaker 1: my house where I looked at the walls and there
Speaker 1: was pitch black, not even joking, and I remember just like, no,
Speaker 1: you know what, I got this. I got this, and
Speaker 1: and I spoke to my friends for a little bit
Speaker 1: and then I just stayed silent literally just like working out,
Speaker 1: working out twice a day and like working out twitter day,
Speaker 1: um see my therapist, and like it was just talking
Speaker 1: to my family a lot. Then it was that, yeah,
Speaker 1: this was right because I had It's not just a breakup,
Speaker 1: it's a public breakup, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: everyone has an opinion, you know, which I'm like, don't
Speaker 1: talk to me if you don't know the story, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I'm like, don't say anything,
Speaker 1: let me just you know. But then I had to
Speaker 1: grieve my like my mom, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it was it was it was rough. It was rough,
Speaker 1: you know. So but now I'm in a place where
Speaker 1: I am I'm flying like a bird, you know, and
Speaker 1: I'm still still grieving obviously. Um yeah, is there any
Speaker 1: chance for reconciliation. I'm leaving it to the universe. That's good. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to hear about your mom. I can't imagine, like,
Speaker 1: you know, she was your rock, and I can't imagine
Speaker 1: you know, going through that and then having you know,
Speaker 1: not being able to talk to her. I'm I'm really
Speaker 1: sorry about that. Yeah. It's like waking up in the
Speaker 1: when I'm like, oh, yeah that. I like what you
Speaker 1: said though about because I feel like other um men
Speaker 1: that I know, or I don't mean to say it
Speaker 1: like that, I like a dig, but I feel like
Speaker 1: a lot of men they don't deal with it. They
Speaker 1: just kind of go on to the next thing, or
Speaker 1: they just um you know, they're they'll instead of really
Speaker 1: like grieving it and dealing with it, like they're a
Speaker 1: little just go golfing or do this or like just
Speaker 1: like and it's like you, I feel like what you
Speaker 1: said is so truely you have to deal with it
Speaker 1: in order like in order to move on. And I
Speaker 1: think that's huge for you know you as a man,
Speaker 1: just too because I don't. And I'm not like, I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to say all men do one or the other,
Speaker 1: but I feel like a lot of times they don't
Speaker 1: feel their emotions until later. We're until but I don't know. Again,
Speaker 1: I'm not a man. But that's just what I've seen
Speaker 1: in my um history of I've heard there's a lot
Speaker 1: people like date again because you're gonna forget about them, Like, no, why,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I need to deal with this feeling. I
Speaker 1: need to deal with I need to face this like
Speaker 1: a man and understand. Then, Yo, what what does like?
Speaker 1: Because it's making me stronger or even better for the
Speaker 1: for the person who I'm gonna be with next. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So you have to do I
Speaker 1: heard something on on on Listen to a motivational speaker,
Speaker 1: and they said, embrace your flaws, embrace your heartbreaks even
Speaker 1: as much as we embrace the good times, where yeah,
Speaker 1: I want the show amazing. Hey, friends, let's gonna have
Speaker 1: fun because we're embracing so much. Embrace those moments when
Speaker 1: you fall down the floor, Embrace them because that's teaching
Speaker 1: you something. I've learned so much about myself and this
Speaker 1: whole process of finding the the deeper side of kio,
Speaker 1: you know, the inner the more like the yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: it's the right thing to say, Yeah, the deeper kio.
Speaker 1: I found that, Like, I found that. And I've always
Speaker 1: wanted people to make other people happy. I'm always I'm
Speaker 1: that kid. I've always grew up wanting everyone to be happy,
Speaker 1: wanting to this and this and this. And I turned
Speaker 1: around and go, what about you? What about you? Like?
Speaker 1: Are you making yourself happy? Are you? Yeah? So I
Speaker 1: just I had to just look at myself in the mirror,
Speaker 1: you know, and ask myself questions, what do you say
Speaker 1: to the men out there? And like these kind of
Speaker 1: situations like what do you think the best advice that
Speaker 1: you can give two men and women but that you've
Speaker 1: kind of found your peace with with your break up.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't say men and women because as
Speaker 1: soon as you start saying that, it makes it makes
Speaker 1: a guy have like a chip on their shoulder like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm a guy, I'm strong, blah blah blah. Right, and
Speaker 1: a woman has to feel over the fields, right, And
Speaker 1: I think every person going through the break up, how
Speaker 1: just just face it with you with with your forehead, man,
Speaker 1: face it with your two eyes. Face it, because if
Speaker 1: you don't face it right now when you're going through that,
Speaker 1: it's gonna hunt you. Because it's gonna hunt you when
Speaker 1: you meet the person, when you meet that person that
Speaker 1: God has for you, it's gonna be so many struggles
Speaker 1: on your side, not on her side, on your side,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna blame it on her, which is or
Speaker 1: vice versa, which is not. I feel like sometimes it's
Speaker 1: not a right thing to do. So face it, face
Speaker 1: it deep down, and it's just I Yeah, I'm facing it, man,
Speaker 1: I'm facing it like straight ahead. So keyo, two point oh.
Speaker 1: For the next relationship, what so what what's one thing
Speaker 1: that you're going to not bring into the next relationship,
Speaker 1: something that you're like for me, you know, if I
Speaker 1: get the chance to be able to have the next relationship,
Speaker 1: I think something that I didn't really like about myself
Speaker 1: in the last relationship is that I can be passive. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that passiveness was because of the
Speaker 1: situation in a relationship or whatever, but it was still
Speaker 1: a quality that I brought in that I didn't like
Speaker 1: about myself. So you know, I'm doing the work to
Speaker 1: to work on that. So what is what is something
Speaker 1: that you're like, Okay, this is a character defect that
Speaker 1: you know you don't need to shame yourself for, but
Speaker 1: also like you know, you want to work on follow
Speaker 1: my instinct and also be truthful to myself. You know.
Speaker 1: It goes back to that that thing I just said,
Speaker 1: Like you sometimes you think, I feel like you, you
Speaker 1: always want to make people happy, and you also lose
Speaker 1: yourself in the situation in trying to do extra things
Speaker 1: this and this, and sometimes it begs fires on you.
Speaker 1: You go think, but I can. I've just been honest
Speaker 1: with myself and like, don't do that, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? So I think it's being honest with myself.
Speaker 1: Is it also being honest with others too? Do you
Speaker 1: think guys have a hard time being honest with relationships
Speaker 1: and the people because maybe they're like trying to cover
Speaker 1: up their own insecurities not don't things. So it's I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think we have mann just honest being No,
Speaker 1: I'm not like everyone in general, like you know, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I'm not just like labeling man, I'm just
Speaker 1: sit saying like you know, because I'm have I lied
Speaker 1: sure in the past, I've lied, you know, but it's
Speaker 1: to cover up, you know, my own And now, like
Speaker 1: I just said, that's like my I hate that quality.
Speaker 1: So I don't do that anymore because it's like it
Speaker 1: only affects. It doesn't just affect me, affects everybody around
Speaker 1: me when you do that lie. But you see, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If you, first of all, you lied
Speaker 1: to yourself, because before it even hits other people, you
Speaker 1: lie to this person. So if you're gonna lie to
Speaker 1: this person, that those people won't be affected, you know.
Speaker 1: So that's why I say it's being honest with me,
Speaker 1: because if you're honest with yourself, this won't be affected regardless, regardless.
Speaker 1: If that's everything starts with you. How you're gonna love someone,
Speaker 1: It's how you love yourself. Let's that's the bottom line.
Speaker 1: It's how you're gonna make someone smile. It's how you
Speaker 1: make yourself smile. Yeah, no, it's it's so interesting like
Speaker 1: when you say that, because I think, you know what,
Speaker 1: I think back to the times that I have lied
Speaker 1: in in past relationships, You're like there was something missing
Speaker 1: in me, and like what, like why was I trying
Speaker 1: to make myself feel better or like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: just it's it's kind of sad in a way too,
Speaker 1: because it's not it's not the truth and be it's
Speaker 1: like I have more love for myself to not lie
Speaker 1: and be like I'm yeah, that's a massive failure, but like, hey,
Speaker 1: that makes me who I am. But instead of been like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, no, that never happened. You see, that's what it's.
Speaker 1: It's it has nothing to do with other people. And
Speaker 1: I say this strongly, it has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: other people. However people take it me. I wouldn't anyway. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so yeah, go ahead, we're gonna say no, I just
Speaker 1: I just saying, like how I said, it's just that
Speaker 1: be real with this person. That's it and everything will
Speaker 1: be fine. You know. I was reading some of the
Speaker 1: notes before, and I was actually shocked when I was
Speaker 1: reading some of it, because okay, here we go. No,
Speaker 1: you you like called someone out for being the worst partner.
Speaker 1: And I swear like if I if Glev said that
Speaker 1: I was the worst partner, I would like crawl into
Speaker 1: a hole and cry. Okay, let me let me just
Speaker 1: let me just clarify that I never said that they
Speaker 1: asked me who was the worst partner on the show.
Speaker 1: Then I said, I said, oh my god, I remember
Speaker 1: season season something when I danced to sugar Con. I
Speaker 1: have to like, it was just a tough season. Never said,
Speaker 1: never said that my worst partner. I just said it
Speaker 1: was a tough season, you know, and like, but because
Speaker 1: I had a video of me explaining it, I didn't
Speaker 1: if you have to defend myself because I'm like, I
Speaker 1: know what I said, so I didn't need So when
Speaker 1: I saw that, I was like wow. I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: you see the met is what the media does now
Speaker 1: Now I laugh at things like as long as I
Speaker 1: know the truth done, I'm like, okay, I don't you know,
Speaker 1: because leaving glad glab com is like bro I said, no,
Speaker 1: I did it. He goes and he listened to the
Speaker 1: video and he goes, oh okay. He's like, you didn't
Speaker 1: say that. I said yeah. But he's like, but you
Speaker 1: see how the media takes it. I'm like, yeah, the
Speaker 1: video is there, so whoever wants to see the video,
Speaker 1: they'll see it and they'll see the truth. I'm not
Speaker 1: defend myself. Why do I defend myself? Like this world,
Speaker 1: I know that's that's crazy. If there is there one
Speaker 1: partner that you wish that you had that someone else had,
Speaker 1: you don't have to say any don't worry. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know, we spoke about this. I know it would
Speaker 1: have been fun the first day we met, the first
Speaker 1: day we met. Sorry, Glad, we love you. But yeah, Glad,
Speaker 1: we love you. But Keo was able to do the
Speaker 1: left that you can do. Oh man, yeah, yeah, did
Speaker 1: you so when it's start to come back right, yes,
Speaker 1: And do you know anything? Like are you are you
Speaker 1: going to be a pro what's going on? We know
Speaker 1: nothing nothing when you listen, we know how you guys
Speaker 1: find out on like when you see the outlets like
Speaker 1: oh this person maybe in the show. That's how we know.
Speaker 1: That's how we find out. You know, it's not like oh,
Speaker 1: we get an email from the producers. Hey there's the
Speaker 1: list of celebrities. Then you can go. You can either
Speaker 1: go like, oh I see myself with that person. No,
Speaker 1: they'll give you to this one. That's that's not part.
Speaker 1: And then like every time we fought, we like we
Speaker 1: have a good chat. We always get it right. Really,
Speaker 1: like you kind of know who your partner is without
Speaker 1: even knowing you can't know your partner's like that you
Speaker 1: opened the door like, yep, I was right, you know?
Speaker 1: So did you wish you had like Krishaw last year?
Speaker 1: Like were you a little were a little envious? And
Speaker 1: the club? I need a drink, Susie, can I please?
Speaker 1: Jenns asking me hard questions right now and I'm blushing?
Speaker 1: What the hell? Um? Yeah, I mean how could you not?
Speaker 1: You know? I mean, you guys ended up, you know,
Speaker 1: falling in love, and how could you not? So, yeah,
Speaker 1: that could have been you know, you look at like
Speaker 1: the artem and Nikki, so it's like that kind of
Speaker 1: that would have been fun for y'all. But it played
Speaker 1: out how it was supposed to. But yeah, I could
Speaker 1: see see the universe at the universe. I feel like
Speaker 1: sometimes if you sometimes it works something it doesn't, you know. No,
Speaker 1: I was gonna work. I want to show with my partners.
Speaker 1: I'm not like, um still I don't know. Yeah at them? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh you don't yell like Gleb does he? Oh? Yes,
Speaker 1: he yells. I yelled into I. You see, we're all different.
Speaker 1: I yelled to motivate, you know, I yelled to lift
Speaker 1: you like because I don't know how to yell. But
Speaker 1: I just yelled to lift you, to motivate you to
Speaker 1: think like you you're the best, which you are in
Speaker 1: your in your own world, you know what I mean? So,
Speaker 1: and I should I shouldn't say glad yelt He was
Speaker 1: just like he was angry. He was a little angry
Speaker 1: Russian at me speaking of you in Gleb. Are you
Speaker 1: guys teaching dance lessons? Yeah? Okay, so how can I
Speaker 1: because I forgot everything Glab taught me? So how can
Speaker 1: can people like that are listening actually do a dance class?
Speaker 1: Or is it in person only? It's in person only
Speaker 1: because it's like the whole thing is like a Latin flavor,
Speaker 1: Latin infusion. It's more of an experience than actually, like
Speaker 1: let's do it online, you know what I mean? Because
Speaker 1: online you want to be there. Like there's something about
Speaker 1: being on that rooftop looking at the ocean and dancing
Speaker 1: in the morning. That's just that feeling I call it.
Speaker 1: I tell him all the time, like it's literally having
Speaker 1: a party for one hour where you let go get
Speaker 1: about everything else, have a party for one hour and
Speaker 1: then have your green green smoothie and go home. I
Speaker 1: love it so what's next, what's next for you? Like,
Speaker 1: what do you what are you doing? What do you
Speaker 1: want to do? What are you putting out into the
Speaker 1: universe a universe? Acting? I think I want to want
Speaker 1: to be on Broadway. Broadway is Broadway is my my
Speaker 1: number one goal? Oh, I see it, I see it.
Speaker 1: I feel that, sir. It's like I want to see
Speaker 1: like whatever shows like if I did you to show
Speaker 1: the Lion King starring King on What's outside the theater?
Speaker 1: My heart? Yeah, I love that. Well everyone, let's put
Speaker 1: that on that out into universe for you and you know,
Speaker 1: dream it and I would love to. Yeah, acting, I
Speaker 1: think sing. I want to sing, but not like have
Speaker 1: an album or like songs. I want to sing like
Speaker 1: on the Broadway show or a movie you know. Um,
Speaker 1: and obviously dancing, you know. But then I want to
Speaker 1: go into a different world in business, not directing, and
Speaker 1: I want to Yeah, life is taking me different rods. Jenda, Well,
Speaker 1: we're all cheering phor you and um, I'll be out
Speaker 1: in l A soon, so we should all do a
Speaker 1: little dancing with the stars lunch reunion. I would love that.
Speaker 1: I would love to same, all right, Keo. It was
Speaker 1: great talking to you and um, I'll see you soon, okay, Batman.
Speaker 1: I think it's good to hear from from guys, especially
Speaker 1: you know, that are kind of redefining their masculinity. Masculinity
Speaker 1: can as the right word masculinity. Yeah, sure, Um but
Speaker 1: I love Ko. He's always been super sweet, and I
Speaker 1: think it's you know, some of the things that I
Speaker 1: took away is just putting things out into the universe
Speaker 1: and deal with it and just deal with it. Just
Speaker 1: deal with things you're going through so that way you can,
Speaker 1: you know, properly grieve. And then I think another thing
Speaker 1: is just be honest with yourself, because if you're honest
Speaker 1: with yourself, that means you're going to be honest with
Speaker 1: people around ju And I think that's definitely the silver
Speaker 1: lining and all of it. Um but I love you guys,
Speaker 1: and let's chat next week.