1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janne Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: I just got a funny text message from my lawyer. Um, actually, 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: well actually East and I would love for you to 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: come on on this, uh this topic. Um. Like I said, 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: it's this has not been easy at all. But my 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: lawyer goes, well, that's one way to do it. And 7 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: there was an article like Janna Kramer poses topless after 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: following divorce. He goes, well, that's one way to approach it. 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: It was like the timing could not have been worse. 10 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean for this to happen. Yeah, yeah, 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: I mean I can see it. I can see it 12 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: from that perspective. I mean, but then also like my 13 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: other girlfriends are like, well, like when you're ready, and 14 00:00:55,200 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: I'm just like I like, oh my gosh. Um. I 15 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: mean I even my doctor and I joke about it. 16 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: He's like, well, I gave you a great divorce body, 17 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, that's not like why I want like, 18 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: oh my god. Um, but no, I'm the I I 19 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: don't know. It's something in a weird way. It's kind 20 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: of like, well that's kind of cool because I was 21 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: always embarrassed, you know, So now if if and when 22 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: I venture out onto the scene, I might have a 23 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: little bit more you know confidence. I guess, I don't know. 24 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: I saw the picture. I shot it alike, I double tapped, 25 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: just as as your co worker, as a as you're 26 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: just you look great, just very I'm looking very respectfully. 27 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: Just wanted to bring that home. I just, honestly, I 28 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: just I wanted to do it because look, either way, 29 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: either if I had my you know, the mom boobs 30 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: or you know the implants, I want to feel and 31 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: I want people to feel good no matter what, like 32 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: however that looks, however that makes you feel. And truly, 33 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: I was just doing it for myself because I just 34 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, I just I really wanted. Um, it's 35 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: something that I wanted for me, and I think it's 36 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people like you should just 37 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: be proud of the body that you have, regardless, and 38 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: I was, like, I am very proud of it. But 39 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: I also like I wanted to do something for me 40 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,839 Speaker 1: as well, And I think that's okay to be able 41 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: to do something for yourself. Just like I work out, 42 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: I work out for myself. I don't work out for 43 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: anyone else. I don't work out to like, you know, 44 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: compete with this person's legs or do this, like I 45 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: work out because I want to work out. And that's 46 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: kind of the same thing that I felt like with 47 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: getting the breast augmentation. I was like, okay, like I 48 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: want this for me, not for my then X or 49 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: the next guy. I don't know, so even weird, like 50 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: thinking about that Jesus. Yeah. No, that's something my wife 51 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: talks about all the time. Is because there's a lot 52 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: of like weird dudes that are always like, why do 53 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: women do you know, get their boottox and stuff? But 54 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: it's not about that. It's about what, like what you 55 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: want and how you want to look. It's your body. 56 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: It's uh, you know, it's I don't know, I just 57 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: don't see any problem with it if that's what if 58 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: that's what someone wants to do. Yeah, I agree, and 59 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: I think it's I think right now though, and I 60 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: love that we're in the age of you know, loving 61 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: your body for the way that it is. But I 62 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: also think it's okay if the person wants to work 63 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: out a ton, or if the person wants to you know, 64 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: get fake boobs, are gonna knows, like whatever it is, 65 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: to make yourself feel better. I think that's like I 66 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: just want, I wish. And I've been so thankful for 67 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: the people on Instagram because I think people are just 68 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: wanting to celebrate people for whatever they want to do. 69 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: And I love that. It's exactly great. You want to 70 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: get a boob job, get a boob job, you want 71 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: to know, like whatever you don't awesome, like whatever makes 72 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: you happy at the end of the day. But I 73 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: have a little confession to make, um because a lot 74 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: of people on here, well, no, it's not that jezy, 75 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: it's like a good, healthy, juicy Um, I'm ready. I 76 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: talked a lot about this on this podcast about anxiety, 77 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: Like I've suffered from anxiety for a very very long time, 78 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: and I I would always wake up, and I know 79 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: I've said this on here. I'd always wake up at 80 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: three o'clock in the morning and have like the worst 81 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: anxiety ever. And that came from the PTSD of my 82 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: first abusive relationship. And when you know, Mike and I, 83 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: even though it's not final, but divorce, just say divorced, 84 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: like broke up, divorce, whatever. Um. My biggest fear is has, 85 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 1: has and always will be. I don't want to be alone, 86 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: Like I'm afraid of being alone. And like even before Mike, 87 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: like I was always like afraid of being alone, and 88 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: so I would even have like my girlfriend Pamelin, who 89 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: came on here um a few weeks ago as a guest, 90 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, girl, can you just leave 91 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: your phone on? Because this is like this is going 92 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: to be the hardest season for me. Is because I 93 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: struggle with being alone. I don't like it. I wake 94 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: up with anxiety and I gotta tell you, so, I 95 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: still wake up in the middle of the night, but 96 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: I don't have anxiety anymore, I know. And I told 97 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: my therapist. I just got the phone with her and 98 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: I was telling her and I was like, it's the 99 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: craziest thing. I'm like, usually like and I just got 100 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: back from NAPA for you know, for my one brick wines, 101 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: and I was like, usually I have anxiety when I travel, 102 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: I have anxiety when I do this or like that. 103 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: And I'm like, since exiting this relationship, I don't have 104 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: any more anxiety. Like I'm sure it's maybe there, but 105 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: like not it would have. It's just the craziest thing. 106 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: And She's like because and she was saying She's like, 107 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: because you had so much fear and doubt and it 108 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: was just dragging you under that now that it's not 109 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: you don't have to hold any of that anymore. It's like, 110 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: you don't you don't realize the stuff that your body 111 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: is going through when you're in that heaviness of of 112 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: everything going on. And it was like, it's been like 113 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: the craziest revelation, Like holy crap, like what was holding 114 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: holding me down? And I was and it's it's like 115 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: I genuinely like almost started crying last night because I 116 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: was like, I don't have any anxiety and this is 117 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: it's just weird. It's like so I just I wanted 118 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: to say that because I think when people go through 119 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: hard times because I'm I'm still like in the thick 120 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: of it, I still have you know, still crying in 121 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: the car and you know, crying at night. But I 122 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: think it's important to celebrate little victories. And that's been 123 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: and to me, that's a huge victory to feel that 124 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: wait of anxiety lifted off of me. That's something that 125 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: I've dealt with my entire life, and it was the 126 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: worst when I was in the relationship with Mike. It 127 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: just was. I mean, I I would have the worst 128 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: panic attacks and now it's like when I usually would 129 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: it's I don't know, it's so it's I don't know. 130 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: I just want to like tell people that, you know what, 131 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: sometimes you might not even realize what's dragging you under 132 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: until you're out that And it's one of those things 133 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: that because I'm sure, like I mean, so much second 134 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: guessing with with something like this, you know, but but 135 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: when something like this happens, you have that kind of 136 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: revelations like Okay, I'm on the right path, I'm doing 137 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: the right thing. Yeah, it's yeah, totally. It's a kind 138 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: of reassurance like, Okay, there was definitely something that must 139 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: have been it was obviously triggering me, although like all 140 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: the heaviness and the stuff and the doubt and the fear, 141 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: like obviously that was causing my anxiety to be really bad. 142 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: And so the fact that it's literally gone and I 143 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: don't have like that anymore just kind of shows you, like, Okay, 144 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: this is this was the right step and I am 145 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: getting I'm I feel healthier, and I think it's you know, 146 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: that's why I wanted to share it because there's so 147 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: many people that have deemed me and they're like how, 148 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: like how did you? Like, I'm stuck and I don't 149 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: know how to get out, and it's and I did 150 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: not feel this on day one. Day one, I was 151 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: literally on the ground having a panic attack. I told 152 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: my best friend Catherine, who slept over. I was like, 153 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: I can't take my kids to school. She's like, yes, 154 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: you can. You need to get up, and I was like, no, 155 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a panic attack, Like I'm gonna like 156 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: She's like, you need to get up and do it. 157 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: Stop saying you're not. She's like, I'm gonna tough love 158 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: you right now. She's like I will stay here until 159 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: your house till you get back, but like you are 160 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: taking your kids to school. You're getting off of the floor. 161 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: And I'm so thankful she did that because if not, 162 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: I probably would have stayed in that anxious state and 163 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: then like, oh, I can't do that because I'm too afraid. 164 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: Now it's like no, like I'm doing it and now 165 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: nothing's holding me back and I'm not waking up in 166 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: the middle of night. So I'm like, little teeny victories. 167 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: I need to celebrate. It makes me so happy. I'm 168 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: just and everyone listening you like you'll, I hope hopefully 169 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: you guys feel those and celebrate the little victories along 170 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: the way, because it's important to know how far you 171 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 1: will come when you go through anything, whether it's a 172 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: job loss, whether it's you know, relationship ending, like, whether 173 00:08:55,679 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: it's it's like just baby steps, and celebrate, celebrate those 174 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: moments that you have a little bit of peace and 175 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: a little less anxiety. Uh. So today I'm excited because 176 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: I have a guest co host and he is someone 177 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: that I semi worked with. UM. We were on a 178 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: little dancing show together, and he's kind of been in 179 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: and out of the tabloids recently, so UM pumped to 180 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: co host with him, and I will bring him on 181 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: the show UM after the break. Okay, So I am 182 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: so honored to have um a guest co host today 183 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: and that would be none other than the one and 184 00:09:51,440 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: only Kio. What's it? Yes? There are you? Yeah? Yeah, 185 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm complained. How are you doing? You know that's a 186 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: loaded question, but today I'm really good. I'm I'm happy. UM, 187 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm feeling light and UM you know, yeah, I'm just 188 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm happy to be here with you. So thanks for 189 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: coming on. Wine down and co hosting with me. I 190 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. So for those of you um listening, 191 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: Kio is one of the amazing professional dancers on Dancing 192 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: with the Stars. And I had the privilege of being 193 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: able to meet Kyo on my season, and I will 194 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: say this, you were by far the nicest, friendliest, most 195 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: welcoming pro on the show. And it just well, and 196 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: I think you because you were you pro that season. 197 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: I think it was the next year, but like I 198 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: just remember like we because we had like dance together, 199 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: or like you were helping, like you were just like 200 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: so nice, and I just I just I always appreciated 201 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: like your kindness. So yeah, because I felt like I 202 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: always feel like Dancing with the Stars such a family. 203 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: So who ever comes into the family, I always say, 204 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: all the celebs coming into the season, it's like they 205 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: come into our Christmas dinner every night, you know. So 206 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: it's like you want to make people feel at home, 207 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, because we all make Dancing with the Star, 208 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: the celebs, the pros, the producers, like we all make 209 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: the show. So I feel I feel like we need 210 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: to make you guys feel at home and comfortable. Whatever 211 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: you need, we got you. You know. That's why they 212 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: say the pros are like, you know everything pretty much. 213 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: You know. So you when did you start dancing? I 214 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: started dancing when I was five years old, and I 215 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: thought it was bom dancing. So I've been doing that since. 216 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: And where did your were you in in South Africa 217 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: then or South Africa? When did you move to the States. 218 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: I moved to the state twenty two thousand and twelve, 219 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: and I went to Florida at first, because I did 220 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: I did a show called burned the Floor for yeah 221 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: in Campa Florida, Bush Guidence, Oh my god. And then 222 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: I traveled them around the world. And then twenty fourteen 223 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: I came on Dancing Starts in August. That's awesome. Nine. 224 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: So how did you What was it like for you, 225 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: you know, living in South Africa being a five year 226 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: old and wanting to do ballroom dancing. Well, it didn't 227 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: start with me just going to ballroom dancing. I think 228 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: I just grew up watching Michael Jackson a lot. And 229 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: there was a show in so that we're called the Summit. 230 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: The Summit followed Top Ballroom Cup bo Room Dancer Couples. Yeah, 231 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: in South Africa. So I used to watch it on 232 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: tiv I just fell in love with like music and dance, 233 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: and like see Michael Jackson dance all the time, and 234 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I can do this, you know. 235 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: And yeah, and then I just fell in love with 236 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: with dancing. I remember playing soccer with all my friends 237 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: is like, bro, listen, dancing. I mean, soccer is not 238 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: for you. I mean, you can play soccer, but it's 239 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: not for you for sure. I'm gonna take you somewhere. 240 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: So he took me where my house is like houses 241 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: down there's a lady who started at dance school. And 242 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: then he took me there and I remember walking in. 243 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: I was like, this is gonna be fun. Saw like 244 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: the guys dakes me the girls, and I was like, yeah, 245 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: this is gonna be fun. This is why I want 246 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: to be And he did it for the girls. No, no, no, 247 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't surprise me that much because you are one 248 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: of the best flirts out there. So no, no, I'm not. 249 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm not a flirt. I'm not. I'm just that's an 250 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: okay thing. I you know, that's you know, I'm it 251 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: just means love, you know, Yeah, I have I have 252 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: so much love to give. I have so much love 253 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: to give. I feel like I just exude love inside me. 254 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: You know, everything that I do, everything that I even 255 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: talking to my friends or like out there at the 256 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: grocery store. I just have so much love to just 257 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: pull to people. So was it tough at all? Like 258 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: did you, as a you know, guy in dancing, Like, 259 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: did you ever get bullied or um? I wouldn't say 260 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: a good bully because this is how my day went. 261 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: Like I'll go to school in the morning, I'll stay 262 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: in school for like another two hours for like what 263 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: we call study. I went to a Catholic school, so 264 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:47,359 Speaker 1: we had like sisters, and we no sports, no extra activities. 265 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: It was just like school. Study. Study is like a 266 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: like an hour and a half away. You know. If 267 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: you had questions about something like your whatever subject, whatever, 268 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: you go ask right and then from they go home. 269 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: When I get home, my mom will say, make sure 270 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: that your school uniform is clean, make sure that your 271 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: shoes are clean, make sure that your books are ready 272 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: for tomorrow, blah blah blah. And then from there, I'll 273 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: go to dancing. After dancing, and then I didn't even 274 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: have time Sometimes I don't have time to play with 275 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: my friends, like it was just like constant school dancing 276 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: every day every single day. And then like on Sundays, 277 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: it's like uh church with my parents and my sisters, 278 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: and then when we come back home, we eat and 279 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: it's like a family day. We all sit together, we 280 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: all chill. There's no you know, like there's not like 281 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: busitors coming over. And one funny story, actually my mom 282 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: talking about girls. My mom never wanted any girl to 283 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: come to my house. Never. I really remember when girl 284 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: came to my house. You just like to bring something 285 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: from me from school. And then she said, don't even 286 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: touch that that gate. And I was like, she goes, 287 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: You'll only be able to do that when you out 288 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: of my house, and I was like, okay, right enow Um. 289 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: In a way, I think it helped in a way 290 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: in situation, and we'll get into that. But well, speaking 291 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: of you know, relationships, you were just in a very 292 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: public breakup and you know, I can I can definitely relate, 293 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: and I'm curious, like how you dealt with the public. 294 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's tough, Like I reading tabloids and 295 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: you know, not a part of me like wanted to 296 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: reach out to you, but I knew that you were 297 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: like probably getting bombarded, um, and you have to like 298 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: walk through that season. But I mean that's that's been 299 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: your first pretty public relationship, right, yeah, my first How 300 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: how was it for you to deal with you know, 301 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: reading things and um, I feel like the first few days, 302 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: I like, I would read things and I'll be like, 303 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 1: you know, what what does this do for me? Like 304 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: what is it doing for me for myself? Like reading this? 305 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: Like I go, I feel when I read something negative 306 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: and I feel like this like cringe in me and 307 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm like and then I read something positive and I'm like, 308 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: oh my god, like the change of energy, the change 309 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: of the shoot right, yeah, different heads. So I go, 310 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: what if I don't read anything, then I'm like, don't 311 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: look at anything, just block yourself from that everything, right, 312 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: And just my faith and talking to my aunt all 313 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: the time and my family back home and my good 314 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: friend um and my publicist all the time. It just 315 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: gave me so much strength. And talking to other other 316 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 1: friends and it just gave me strength to stay away 317 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: and to know my worth and what as a person, 318 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: what do finds me that this define me? Whether good 319 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: or bad? It doesn't define me? And no, it doesn't, 320 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: you know, the person we defines me is what I 321 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: believe who who quire is right? If if people say, oh, 322 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 1: he's a cheater, he's this and this and this, I'm like, 323 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: but no, you don't. You don't know me, So why 324 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: do you Why why do you say what? You just say? 325 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So I feel like not, 326 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: I feel like actually I know that for me, what 327 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: got me through it was just staying away from the media, 328 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: keeping my my silence and staying away from everything and 329 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: just be like, you know what, God will sort this out. Man, 330 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: He's done so many times in my life in so 331 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: many situation, whether good or bad. I leave it out 332 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: to him. You know. I prayed a lot. I prayed 333 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: a lot. I yeah, you know, I think God pulled 334 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: me through. I am confident enough to say that God 335 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: put me through this. Yeah. Do you have any do 336 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: you have any regrets from anything in that relationship that 337 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: they You're like, I'm gonna do this differently in the 338 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: next one. Um, No, No, I don't, I don't. I 339 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: just I just there's just so many things for me. 340 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: I I said, I have this thing ritual if I'm 341 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: if I break up with a friend, you know, just 342 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: hold me or like a best or whatever I go through. 343 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: I have a seat outside in a bout. When I 344 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: sit down and let's take a pen and a book 345 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: or a paper whatever. There's two columns in there's two 346 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: columns negative or positive. Right, And I write everything that 347 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: I feel that's it doesn't do do me justice, it 348 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: doesn't make me feel this is worth it for me? Right, 349 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: And I write something that I'm like, oh my God, okay, cool. 350 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: So then if negative is more than the positive, then 351 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: I'll scratch that and I'll light a fire and I 352 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: let God like and I have this straight I think 353 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: I take it from my mom. Actually, I have the 354 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: strength of when I let go of something done like 355 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: it's like it never happened. It's like cut never happened. 356 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: It's like I'm like sometimes I'm like, wow, I don't 357 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: have that feeling because when something happens, I give it 358 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: a chance. I'm like, how can I fight? How can 359 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: I fight? In which way? Like, let me fight, let 360 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: me do this, let me let me figure it out, 361 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: you know. But if there's no strength in me to 362 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: do that, and with the with the with the help 363 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: of God, I I just let go. I literally let go. 364 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: I just and I think that's one of my strength 365 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: that I can let go. I can deal with it 366 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: and let go. But this was rough. Why I say 367 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: that because like the person I turned to when things 368 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: hit the firm, it's my mom. And not having her 369 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: it was like and now, like there was days with 370 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: my house where I looked at the walls and there 371 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: was pitch black, not even joking, and I remember just like, no, 372 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: you know what, I got this. I got this, and 373 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: and I spoke to my friends for a little bit 374 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: and then I just stayed silent literally just like working out, 375 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: working out twice a day and like working out twitter day, 376 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: um see my therapist, and like it was just talking 377 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: to my family a lot. Then it was that, yeah, 378 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: this was right because I had It's not just a breakup, 379 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: it's a public breakup, you know what I mean. So 380 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: everyone has an opinion, you know, which I'm like, don't 381 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: talk to me if you don't know the story, you 382 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I'm like, don't say anything, 383 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: let me just you know. But then I had to 384 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: grieve my like my mom, you know what I mean. 385 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: So it was it was it was rough. It was rough, 386 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: you know. So but now I'm in a place where 387 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: I am I'm flying like a bird, you know, and 388 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: I'm still still grieving obviously. Um yeah, is there any 389 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: chance for reconciliation. I'm leaving it to the universe. That's good. Yeah, yeah, 390 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to hear about your mom. I can't imagine, like, 391 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, she was your rock, and I can't imagine 392 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: you know, going through that and then having you know, 393 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: not being able to talk to her. I'm I'm really 394 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: sorry about that. Yeah. It's like waking up in the 395 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: when I'm like, oh, yeah that. I like what you 396 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: said though about because I feel like other um men 397 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: that I know, or I don't mean to say it 398 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: like that, I like a dig, but I feel like 399 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: a lot of men they don't deal with it. They 400 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: just kind of go on to the next thing, or 401 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: they just um you know, they're they'll instead of really 402 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: like grieving it and dealing with it, like they're a 403 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,719 Speaker 1: little just go golfing or do this or like just 404 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: like and it's like you, I feel like what you 405 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: said is so truely you have to deal with it 406 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: in order like in order to move on. And I 407 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: think that's huge for you know you as a man, 408 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: just too because I don't. And I'm not like, I'm 409 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: not trying to say all men do one or the other, 410 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: but I feel like a lot of times they don't 411 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: feel their emotions until later. We're until but I don't know. Again, 412 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm not a man. But that's just what I've seen 413 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: in my um history of I've heard there's a lot 414 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: people like date again because you're gonna forget about them, Like, no, why, 415 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, I need to deal with this feeling. I 416 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: need to deal with I need to face this like 417 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: a man and understand. Then, Yo, what what does like? 418 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: Because it's making me stronger or even better for the 419 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: for the person who I'm gonna be with next. You 420 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: know what I mean? So you have to do I 421 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: heard something on on on Listen to a motivational speaker, 422 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: and they said, embrace your flaws, embrace your heartbreaks even 423 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: as much as we embrace the good times, where yeah, 424 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:32,239 Speaker 1: I want the show amazing. Hey, friends, let's gonna have 425 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: fun because we're embracing so much. Embrace those moments when 426 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: you fall down the floor, Embrace them because that's teaching 427 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: you something. I've learned so much about myself and this 428 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: whole process of finding the the deeper side of kio, 429 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: you know, the inner the more like the yeah, yeah 430 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: it's the right thing to say, Yeah, the deeper kio. 431 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: I found that, Like, I found that. And I've always 432 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: wanted people to make other people happy. I'm always I'm 433 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: that kid. I've always grew up wanting everyone to be happy, 434 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: wanting to this and this and this. And I turned 435 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: around and go, what about you? What about you? Like? 436 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: Are you making yourself happy? Are you? Yeah? So I 437 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: just I had to just look at myself in the mirror, 438 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: you know, and ask myself questions, what do you say 439 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 1: to the men out there? And like these kind of 440 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: situations like what do you think the best advice that 441 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: you can give two men and women but that you've 442 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,479 Speaker 1: kind of found your peace with with your break up. 443 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't say men and women because as 444 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: soon as you start saying that, it makes it makes 445 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: a guy have like a chip on their shoulder like, no, 446 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,719 Speaker 1: I'm a guy, I'm strong, blah blah blah. Right, and 447 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: a woman has to feel over the fields, right, And 448 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: I think every person going through the break up, how 449 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: just just face it with you with with your forehead, man, 450 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: face it with your two eyes. Face it, because if 451 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: you don't face it right now when you're going through that, 452 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna hunt you. Because it's gonna hunt you when 453 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: you meet the person, when you meet that person that 454 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: God has for you, it's gonna be so many struggles 455 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: on your side, not on her side, on your side, 456 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: and you're gonna blame it on her, which is or 457 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: vice versa, which is not. I feel like sometimes it's 458 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: not a right thing to do. So face it, face 459 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: it deep down, and it's just I Yeah, I'm facing it, man, 460 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm facing it like straight ahead. So keyo, two point oh. 461 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: For the next relationship, what so what what's one thing 462 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: that you're going to not bring into the next relationship, 463 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: something that you're like for me, you know, if I 464 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: get the chance to be able to have the next relationship, 465 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: I think something that I didn't really like about myself 466 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: in the last relationship is that I can be passive. Now. 467 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if that passiveness was because of the 468 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: situation in a relationship or whatever, but it was still 469 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: a quality that I brought in that I didn't like 470 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: about myself. So you know, I'm doing the work to 471 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: to work on that. So what is what is something 472 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: that you're like, Okay, this is a character defect that 473 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 1: you know you don't need to shame yourself for, but 474 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: also like you know, you want to work on follow 475 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: my instinct and also be truthful to myself. You know. 476 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: It goes back to that that thing I just said, 477 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 1: Like you sometimes you think, I feel like you, you 478 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: always want to make people happy, and you also lose 479 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: yourself in the situation in trying to do extra things 480 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: this and this, and sometimes it begs fires on you. 481 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: You go think, but I can. I've just been honest 482 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: with myself and like, don't do that, you know what 483 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean? So I think it's being honest with myself. 484 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: Is it also being honest with others too? Do you 485 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: think guys have a hard time being honest with relationships 486 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: and the people because maybe they're like trying to cover 487 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: up their own insecurities not don't things. So it's I don't. 488 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: I don't think we have mann just honest being No, 489 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm not like everyone in general, like you know, like, yeah, 490 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: I know, I'm not just like labeling man, I'm just 491 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: sit saying like you know, because I'm have I lied 492 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: sure in the past, I've lied, you know, but it's 493 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: to cover up, you know, my own And now, like 494 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: I just said, that's like my I hate that quality. 495 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: So I don't do that anymore because it's like it 496 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: only affects. It doesn't just affect me, affects everybody around 497 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: me when you do that lie. But you see, that's 498 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If you, first of all, you lied 499 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: to yourself, because before it even hits other people, you 500 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: lie to this person. So if you're gonna lie to 501 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: this person, that those people won't be affected, you know. 502 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: So that's why I say it's being honest with me, 503 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: because if you're honest with yourself, this won't be affected regardless, regardless. 504 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: If that's everything starts with you. How you're gonna love someone, 505 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: It's how you love yourself. Let's that's the bottom line. 506 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: It's how you're gonna make someone smile. It's how you 507 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: make yourself smile. Yeah, no, it's it's so interesting like 508 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: when you say that, because I think, you know what, 509 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: I think back to the times that I have lied 510 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: in in past relationships, You're like there was something missing 511 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: in me, and like what, like why was I trying 512 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: to make myself feel better or like, you know, it's 513 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: just it's it's kind of sad in a way too, 514 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: because it's not it's not the truth and be it's 515 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: like I have more love for myself to not lie 516 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: and be like I'm yeah, that's a massive failure, but like, hey, 517 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: that makes me who I am. But instead of been like, 518 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: oh yeah, no, that never happened. You see, that's what it's. 519 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: It's it has nothing to do with other people. And 520 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: I say this strongly, it has nothing to do with 521 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: other people. However people take it me. I wouldn't anyway. Yeah, okay, 522 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: so yeah, go ahead, we're gonna say no, I just 523 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: I just saying, like how I said, it's just that 524 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: be real with this person. That's it and everything will 525 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: be fine. You know. I was reading some of the 526 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: notes before, and I was actually shocked when I was 527 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: reading some of it, because okay, here we go. No, 528 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: you you like called someone out for being the worst partner. 529 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: And I swear like if I if Glev said that 530 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: I was the worst partner, I would like crawl into 531 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: a hole and cry. Okay, let me let me just 532 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: let me just clarify that I never said that they 533 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: asked me who was the worst partner on the show. 534 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: Then I said, I said, oh my god, I remember 535 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: season season something when I danced to sugar Con. I 536 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: have to like, it was just a tough season. Never said, 537 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: never said that my worst partner. I just said it 538 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: was a tough season, you know, and like, but because 539 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: I had a video of me explaining it, I didn't 540 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: if you have to defend myself because I'm like, I 541 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: know what I said, so I didn't need So when 542 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: I saw that, I was like wow. I was like, wow, 543 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: you see the met is what the media does now 544 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: Now I laugh at things like as long as I 545 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: know the truth done, I'm like, okay, I don't you know, 546 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: because leaving glad glab com is like bro I said, no, 547 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: I did it. He goes and he listened to the 548 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: video and he goes, oh okay. He's like, you didn't 549 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: say that. I said yeah. But he's like, but you 550 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: see how the media takes it. I'm like, yeah, the 551 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: video is there, so whoever wants to see the video, 552 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: they'll see it and they'll see the truth. I'm not 553 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: defend myself. Why do I defend myself? Like this world, 554 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: I know that's that's crazy. If there is there one 555 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: partner that you wish that you had that someone else had, 556 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: you don't have to say any don't worry. Yeah, but 557 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: you know, we spoke about this. I know it would 558 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: have been fun the first day we met, the first 559 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: day we met. Sorry, Glad, we love you. But yeah, Glad, 560 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: we love you. But Keo was able to do the 561 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: left that you can do. Oh man, yeah, yeah, did 562 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: you so when it's start to come back right, yes, 563 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: And do you know anything? Like are you are you 564 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: going to be a pro what's going on? We know 565 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: nothing nothing when you listen, we know how you guys 566 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: find out on like when you see the outlets like 567 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: oh this person maybe in the show. That's how we know. 568 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: That's how we find out. You know, it's not like oh, 569 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: we get an email from the producers. Hey there's the 570 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: list of celebrities. Then you can go. You can either 571 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: go like, oh I see myself with that person. No, 572 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: they'll give you to this one. That's that's not part. 573 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: And then like every time we fought, we like we 574 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: have a good chat. We always get it right. Really, 575 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: like you kind of know who your partner is without 576 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: even knowing you can't know your partner's like that you 577 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: opened the door like, yep, I was right, you know? 578 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: So did you wish you had like Krishaw last year? 579 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: Like were you a little were a little envious? And 580 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: the club? I need a drink, Susie, can I please? 581 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 1: Jenns asking me hard questions right now and I'm blushing? 582 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: What the hell? Um? Yeah, I mean how could you not? 583 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: You know? I mean, you guys ended up, you know, 584 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: falling in love, and how could you not? So, yeah, 585 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: that could have been you know, you look at like 586 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: the artem and Nikki, so it's like that kind of 587 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: that would have been fun for y'all. But it played 588 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: out how it was supposed to. But yeah, I could 589 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: see see the universe at the universe. I feel like 590 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 1: sometimes if you sometimes it works something it doesn't, you know. No, 591 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: I was gonna work. I want to show with my partners. 592 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm not like, um still I don't know. Yeah at them? Yeah. 593 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: Oh you don't yell like Gleb does he? Oh? Yes, 594 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 1: he yells. I yelled into I. You see, we're all different. 595 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: I yelled to motivate, you know, I yelled to lift 596 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: you like because I don't know how to yell. But 597 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: I just yelled to lift you, to motivate you to 598 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: think like you you're the best, which you are in 599 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: your in your own world, you know what I mean? So, 600 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: and I should I shouldn't say glad yelt He was 601 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: just like he was angry. He was a little angry 602 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: Russian at me speaking of you in Gleb. Are you 603 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: guys teaching dance lessons? Yeah? Okay, so how can I 604 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 1: because I forgot everything Glab taught me? So how can 605 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: can people like that are listening actually do a dance class? 606 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 1: Or is it in person only? It's in person only 607 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: because it's like the whole thing is like a Latin flavor, 608 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: Latin infusion. It's more of an experience than actually, like 609 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: let's do it online, you know what I mean? Because 610 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: online you want to be there. Like there's something about 611 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: being on that rooftop looking at the ocean and dancing 612 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: in the morning. That's just that feeling I call it. 613 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: I tell him all the time, like it's literally having 614 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: a party for one hour where you let go get 615 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: about everything else, have a party for one hour and 616 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: then have your green green smoothie and go home. I 617 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: love it so what's next, what's next for you? Like, 618 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: what do you what are you doing? What do you 619 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: want to do? What are you putting out into the 620 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: universe a universe? Acting? I think I want to want 621 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: to be on Broadway. Broadway is Broadway is my my 622 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: number one goal? Oh, I see it, I see it. 623 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: I feel that, sir. It's like I want to see 624 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,919 Speaker 1: like whatever shows like if I did you to show 625 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 1: the Lion King starring King on What's outside the theater? 626 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: My heart? Yeah, I love that. Well everyone, let's put 627 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: that on that out into universe for you and you know, 628 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: dream it and I would love to. Yeah, acting, I 629 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: think sing. I want to sing, but not like have 630 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: an album or like songs. I want to sing like 631 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: on the Broadway show or a movie you know. Um, 632 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: and obviously dancing, you know. But then I want to 633 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: go into a different world in business, not directing, and 634 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:47,919 Speaker 1: I want to Yeah, life is taking me different rods. Jenda, Well, 635 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: we're all cheering phor you and um, I'll be out 636 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: in l A soon, so we should all do a 637 00:37:53,000 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: little dancing with the stars lunch reunion. I would love that. 638 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: I would love to same, all right, Keo. It was 639 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,720 Speaker 1: great talking to you and um, I'll see you soon, okay, Batman. 640 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: I think it's good to hear from from guys, especially 641 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, that are kind of redefining their masculinity. Masculinity 642 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: can as the right word masculinity. Yeah, sure, Um but 643 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: I love Ko. He's always been super sweet, and I 644 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: think it's you know, some of the things that I 645 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: took away is just putting things out into the universe 646 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: and deal with it and just deal with it. Just 647 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 1: deal with things you're going through so that way you can, 648 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: you know, properly grieve. And then I think another thing 649 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 1: is just be honest with yourself, because if you're honest 650 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: with yourself, that means you're going to be honest with 651 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: people around ju And I think that's definitely the silver 652 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: lining and all of it. Um but I love you guys, 653 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: and let's chat next week.