Speaker 1: All right. We are so excited because okay, let me
Speaker 1: get started. It's lip Service. I'm Anti Lay, I'm Stephanie Santiago,
Speaker 1: I'm G. G. Maguire, I'm Glauria and we have a
Speaker 1: super extra, super duper special guest. Erica Alexander is here
Speaker 1: with us. Great to be here, Thank you, So great
Speaker 1: to happen. She was really gonna do this because she
Speaker 1: came on the breakfast and I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: we gotta get you on live service. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if she really I had no idea. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I'm glad to be here. Actually, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: very bighted. I don't know. You guys are who I
Speaker 1: want to be, so I'll learn something. No, we're hoping
Speaker 1: to learn some stuff from you. Good luck, so Erica.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've had such an illustrious career. Thank you
Speaker 1: as an actor, producer, everything that you've been doing. Of course,
Speaker 1: everybody was excited that you were coming in here. Cousin
Speaker 1: Pam Maxine from Living made a lot of women want
Speaker 1: to become attorneys. Watch I watch listen, I watch it
Speaker 1: in the morning. It comes on in the morning right now.
Speaker 1: I watch it in the morning. Morning No, I got
Speaker 1: my daughter. I have a twenty one year old daughter.
Speaker 1: I got her watching it. She loves it. The fact
Speaker 1: that you say twenty one daughter is to be fabulous. No. No,
Speaker 1: the reason I don't watch it is when I catch it,
Speaker 1: I'm really happy to see it. I'll let you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, but I think I was telling you on
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club that we didn't get to watch it
Speaker 1: as we were doing it all those years because we
Speaker 1: filmed on the same night they would play, and the
Speaker 1: people did have VHS and you could record it, but
Speaker 1: you're most likely you didn't. And by the time the
Speaker 1: network gave us all of the tapes, it just seemed
Speaker 1: like it was a tremendous strain to look at five
Speaker 1: years of shows, and by that time we were moving
Speaker 1: to DVD, the TV c d s and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: I was filmed in front of a live studio audience.
Speaker 1: We did, We did. It was like doing a live
Speaker 1: play every every day. Not really certainty, discipline, and you
Speaker 1: had to have your memory, you know, really you know,
Speaker 1: sort of geared up when you come out of high school,
Speaker 1: which most of us were coming out of high school.
Speaker 1: You your your brain actually functions that way. Because you
Speaker 1: used to memorizing test dancers and all that age. It's
Speaker 1: just when you get older that that skill set you
Speaker 1: have kind of goes away and you might panic a bit.
Speaker 1: But the truth is it can be built up like
Speaker 1: a muscle, especially when you smoke. Sometimes conversation and I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: I think at my phone, I'd be like what was
Speaker 1: I about to All the time, I'll bend my right hand,
Speaker 1: like where is my phone? Kind of my head your hand?
Speaker 1: All right? So did you have a lot of groupies?
Speaker 1: Because I'm so sure that back, you know, and even
Speaker 1: now because everybody's always excited to see you. But when
Speaker 1: everything was happening, did you have like a lot of
Speaker 1: dudes trying to higl at you just to get some cloud?
Speaker 1: You know, I'd love to say that that was the case.
Speaker 1: It wasn't, And you know, I wonder about that now
Speaker 1: looking back, I think I'm relieved, but I don't think
Speaker 1: I gave out that vibe at all. You know, some
Speaker 1: people think that you can play a character and the
Speaker 1: personally quits the character to you. So they like Max
Speaker 1: and they like her, you know, her strongness and all that,
Speaker 1: but then when they see you, they're not sure how
Speaker 1: to take you. And I think they were very afraid
Speaker 1: of Max. They were very afraid of her dark skin,
Speaker 1: her you know, her her locks all that. So when
Speaker 1: they see me, that's what they give me, sort of
Speaker 1: just like a little space and how are you doing?
Speaker 1: And so I didn't get asked on dates at all.
Speaker 1: I didn't get proposed to nobody. I got married, but
Speaker 1: I did. I got married to the second man I
Speaker 1: ever dated. Yeah, because I didn't date either. I'm a
Speaker 1: preacher's daughter. And sometimes you also take in and I'm
Speaker 1: not very religious and wasn't then, but sometimes what you
Speaker 1: do is you take in a sort of a thing
Speaker 1: about sex and promiscuous that it's gonna kill your dreams
Speaker 1: and even kill you. I grew up in the eighties
Speaker 1: where you not you weren't getting nearroties, you were going
Speaker 1: to die from AIDS. And then all the girls that
Speaker 1: went to school, because I went too for girls high
Speaker 1: school for girls in Philadelphia, that if you got pregnant
Speaker 1: at all, or you got himed up with some man,
Speaker 1: it would absolutely divert you from the thing that they
Speaker 1: were training you for, which was to go into the
Speaker 1: world and make a difference. So you avoided sex and
Speaker 1: men like it was the plague. How did you learn
Speaker 1: about sex? Then? You know, my mother gave me a
Speaker 1: book and gave us all a book when we were younger,
Speaker 1: and really showed us the mechanisms. I mean it really
Speaker 1: didn't so I didn't have any you know, I knew
Speaker 1: what sex was all about, but I didn't know what
Speaker 1: sexuality was about, and um, sort of giving yourself over
Speaker 1: to it and enjoying it. That I think I learned,
Speaker 1: Like a lot of people offer looking at movies and
Speaker 1: films and TV and women talking about I look at
Speaker 1: the housewives now, I mean I don't look at it
Speaker 1: all the time, but sometimes I'm so fascinated by them
Speaker 1: and their their ability to be free like that. There
Speaker 1: was no way that I could feel free enough to
Speaker 1: talk about half the things that they're just doing and
Speaker 1: not feel And this is no disrespect like a whore, right,
Speaker 1: And that's my list. Service is kind of about this podcast.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like we gotta have these kinds about
Speaker 1: sex because men are having sex, they can discuss it.
Speaker 1: It's not a problem. Women should be able to do
Speaker 1: the same thing. Now, let me ask you this though,
Speaker 1: since we're talking about learning about sex. Do you remember
Speaker 1: the first time ever seeing like a porn. I remember
Speaker 1: the first time I saw a porn when if you
Speaker 1: say porn doesn't have to be paper indoor like a
Speaker 1: porn movie, like actually, move was something that affected you
Speaker 1: because I remember my first time seeing a porn movie.
Speaker 1: My parents had him like hidden in the house on VHS,
Speaker 1: and I remember me and my brother was looking through everything.
Speaker 1: You know how you go through all your parents stuff,
Speaker 1: and we put the tape in. Oh man, I was
Speaker 1: I can remember the name of the movie. What if
Speaker 1: it was your parents having that would have been god.
Speaker 1: But they was putting tapes they recorded on tapes back
Speaker 1: in a day, right like the video camera my parents
Speaker 1: us been happening. You know. The thing that affected me
Speaker 1: was my father, who I say was a preacher. I
Speaker 1: found some Playboy magazines in the car and it well
Speaker 1: have affected me because I would have gotten beaten for it.
Speaker 1: And there was this man that again was preaching the
Speaker 1: sort of piousness and then to find this and it
Speaker 1: affected me. It sort of was telling me that he
Speaker 1: wasn't who he said. He wasn't true, It wasn't true.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do with at the moment,
Speaker 1: but I was just sort of saying, you're telling us.
Speaker 1: You know. He used to say, keep your panties up,
Speaker 1: keep your dilly dillies in your pants. You know, that
Speaker 1: was his advice to us. But then here was all
Speaker 1: this craziness of people splitting their clitterest open and all that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a shock. So that was affected by the
Speaker 1: time my first boyfriend, who was a really great guy,
Speaker 1: and I have to say it was very gentle with
Speaker 1: me and and um and very encouraging. You know, always
Speaker 1: say I, no, Eric, you're sexy. No, you know what
Speaker 1: you're doing. Yo, you're good at everything. But he really
Speaker 1: made me feel no, that doesn't hurt. That showed me
Speaker 1: that he had porn and and and I was like okay,
Speaker 1: But because it was around him, it seemed like something
Speaker 1: that was a stimulant, not that it was anything that.
Speaker 1: So that was the first time you were a fact
Speaker 1: and sexually, um supporn. But the first time you saw
Speaker 1: porn it affected you in a negative way, like what
Speaker 1: is this? Yeah, because again they make everything around having
Speaker 1: sex or being sexual at all like your demon. And
Speaker 1: then the suddenly feel like, I mean, we couldn't even
Speaker 1: listen to secular music. He would say, oh, you're gonna
Speaker 1: go to hell, and all that, I mean, all the
Speaker 1: stuff you hear is stereotype. That's what we get. But
Speaker 1: then he would sing like Sam Cook, and he had
Speaker 1: a great voice, and he would dance. But when it
Speaker 1: was when it was, he would flip the script and
Speaker 1: it would become complicated when somebody would try to play
Speaker 1: both sides and be a hypocrite, and that's hypocritical. But
Speaker 1: it's different for your brother than it was like for
Speaker 1: the girls in the family, because I know they tweat
Speaker 1: the guys different, yes, and in fact, um they were
Speaker 1: totally different. Um. You know, we had such a weird
Speaker 1: differentiation between boy and girl that my father would buy
Speaker 1: the girl's baby rust and the boy's butterfinger and he
Speaker 1: would get pot pies and girls would only get chicken
Speaker 1: and the boys who could beef. You know, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, boys eating beef and girls kids got chicken,
Speaker 1: and we got smaller, I mean, and and for dainty things.
Speaker 1: But not only that that if the better things would
Speaker 1: go to them, and you know, and it made me
Speaker 1: for a long time, I mean, they hung around men
Speaker 1: because I thought they have all the good stuff. And
Speaker 1: to this day I feel maybe probably a little bit
Speaker 1: more comfortable around men. But I've been around so many
Speaker 1: strong women now that I feel okay, no, no, I
Speaker 1: have I know where I am. And that's crazy because
Speaker 1: then you were on the show like Leomen's single, where
Speaker 1: it's like Queen Latifa, who's a strong you know women
Speaker 1: in the industry, and the women are comfortable around the man.
Speaker 1: And that's that's been crazy because that's like the total
Speaker 1: opposite of how you grew up because y'all were to
Speaker 1: dominant in the show and you were dominant. Now the
Speaker 1: women were dominant kind of like kind of played the
Speaker 1: guys out a lot, like you played Kyle out all
Speaker 1: the time. Um overton No, he was she was, That
Speaker 1: was st Clair over to everybody that um that Kadija
Speaker 1: dated is she always you know what I mean, would
Speaker 1: always be the dominant one too. That's true. So it's
Speaker 1: crazy how it's extremely different from your life, but you
Speaker 1: played it so well. Well. That's why it's a great
Speaker 1: fantasy to become an actress, to be all the things
Speaker 1: that you weren't allowed to be. In fact, it was
Speaker 1: always in you to be these things. But here's somebody's
Speaker 1: writing it for you give me permission to go and
Speaker 1: do it. In fact, the thing that you're seeing that
Speaker 1: I think works so well because chemistry. When we talked
Speaker 1: about this, I said, it's hard to find and when
Speaker 1: you find it, you should cherish it because not everybody
Speaker 1: fits together. You have to find balance. But it came
Speaker 1: from the individuality. Was different from Dana, who grew up
Speaker 1: with a professor, a teacher, mother, God bless her. She
Speaker 1: just passed and um her father who was a police officer.
Speaker 1: She's probably the most middle class of us all and
Speaker 1: yet she was representing, you know, the street, and I
Speaker 1: come and I grew up, as I said, in a
Speaker 1: hotel called Starlight off AU sixty six, and we were
Speaker 1: dumpster diving for cans and jumping in and that's how
Speaker 1: we made our money. And you're knocking on doors asking
Speaker 1: for jobs, you know, taking out people's trash, cleaning the
Speaker 1: McMillan building, the army basis. That's who we were, all right.
Speaker 1: So now that Eric Bellinger is here, we got Eric Bellinger,
Speaker 1: we got Erica Alexander here. We were just talking about
Speaker 1: like how we grew up thinking about sex and you know,
Speaker 1: as women, I think it's different how we're taught about
Speaker 1: sex as it is for men. So do you remember
Speaker 1: the first time you learned about sex. I think it's
Speaker 1: different for women. I think it's different for men. I
Speaker 1: think it's different for Christians. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I grew up awesome. What you say. We were meant
Speaker 1: to be together. It was. It wasn't even it wasn't
Speaker 1: even a talk, thank you. You know um that birds
Speaker 1: and the bees talk quote unquote. My parents never taught
Speaker 1: me about sex. They didn't even get around to at
Speaker 1: least tell me, you know what what I mean. But now,
Speaker 1: you know, growing up and you know, having the son
Speaker 1: on my own and being in the real vibe of
Speaker 1: what it is, and especially now with its progressed to
Speaker 1: over the years from even back then. Now it's thrown
Speaker 1: around so loosely as like you gotta say something, click
Speaker 1: my son three. I'm like, fam, no, that's too young.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, like, I just feel like it's
Speaker 1: better to know you feel me, just so that you're
Speaker 1: aware because it was so forbidding that I feel like
Speaker 1: that kind of harm me a little bit. That's fact.
Speaker 1: You can't act like things. That's so taboo because it
Speaker 1: makes you kind of weird about it later on in life.
Speaker 1: Exactly do you remember the first time you have sex?
Speaker 1: For sure? You remember Erica what that was like? Yes,
Speaker 1: I do, I do again. That was my first boyfriend
Speaker 1: and he was very kind and you know, it's kind
Speaker 1: as he was encouraging, and it didn't feel like the
Speaker 1: first time I had sex because he's already touched me
Speaker 1: in a gentle way and so him sticking it in
Speaker 1: it was deep for me. Because my father was a preacher,
Speaker 1: so I think, no doubt let him go because do
Speaker 1: too much with that my so we have a lyricist.
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna provide me. I said, this is
Speaker 1: this sucks. I actually don't like him here, I can't anything,
Speaker 1: but you know, but I think I was after and
Speaker 1: I'd say after that point, I was feeling guilty because
Speaker 1: I had um uh, I had disappointed God's expectation of me,
Speaker 1: and I beat myself up over it. I started to
Speaker 1: have panic attacks. I started to ask myself, um uh,
Speaker 1: beg for forgiveness, but still do it. And then I
Speaker 1: realized I can't be a hypocrite because of what I
Speaker 1: said told you earlier. My father I thought was. So
Speaker 1: I told myself that I was going to give up
Speaker 1: religion in that way because I thought, if I'm going
Speaker 1: to hell, then a lot of people, we all are,
Speaker 1: and I'd rather be truthful to who I am. And said, well,
Speaker 1: if he's going to put send me to hell for
Speaker 1: for giving love and you know I receiving it, then
Speaker 1: I guess I'm hell bound. But I'm telling you that
Speaker 1: was always. That was all during the Gulf War years
Speaker 1: and a lot of things were very existential, and I
Speaker 1: was feeling very vulnerable. And you think about your soul
Speaker 1: in those times and in the afterlife, and so to me,
Speaker 1: sex wasn't just sex. It was who you were going
Speaker 1: to be and who God thought you were. What was
Speaker 1: your first time me m over the Golden rule? Golden rule? Uh? Dolphins? Literally,
Speaker 1: I think I believe that you that you it's karmak
Speaker 1: and that I don't believe that that's what it was
Speaker 1: meant to do, was to punish us. And then I
Speaker 1: think that you punish yourself if you give um so
Speaker 1: liberally that you don't respect yourself, that's different. But you're giving,
Speaker 1: you know what you're doing, and the person's accepting and
Speaker 1: it's you know, and it's recipient. Yeah, I think God
Speaker 1: bless you and you know and and and you think
Speaker 1: and God's grace. Hey, right, amen, I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: going up. Definitely, You're exactly right, Eric. Why even though
Speaker 1: I had a baby without getting married, and you know,
Speaker 1: I've done a lot of things that you know, probably
Speaker 1: the Bible wouldn't agree with in my lifetime, But I
Speaker 1: still think I'm going to have it. And I still
Speaker 1: think I'm in godsips for forgiveness. I don't and I
Speaker 1: don't continue to sin. I don't, you know, I little
Speaker 1: dick never hurt nobody more. Yeah, I mean, ike, I
Speaker 1: smoke right right? You remember your first time? Yeah, well
Speaker 1: vibes it was back to her first time. No, she
Speaker 1: was a little older than me, but you know I
Speaker 1: was I was really into I'm gonna wait until I
Speaker 1: get married vibe. That was what I was on. That
Speaker 1: was your vibe. That was my vibe. She was a
Speaker 1: senior though, So how did you say you were three?
Speaker 1: Because you just said your son got to talk? She
Speaker 1: was senior. She was senior. She was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I was pro and I was like then, you know,
Speaker 1: she got me with but we're gonna get married. Anyway
Speaker 1: in the hood, what great were you in? I was
Speaker 1: in grade. She was nervous. That's not bad at all.
Speaker 1: I mean it's bad, but it's clearly not because she
Speaker 1: was like, we're gonna get me. She wasn't she she
Speaker 1: was was she was, she was, she was, she would Okay,
Speaker 1: it was like, we're gonna get married, and it was
Speaker 1: in love. It for me at sixteen and seventeen, it
Speaker 1: was our version, so it was like, are you right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get married? Long did that last? That's three.
Speaker 1: I think I had sex. I think we broke up
Speaker 1: with some crazy but we were so we were so young,
Speaker 1: Like it was like our parents broke us up for us.
Speaker 1: You know, it was crazy. They didn't want you guys together.
Speaker 1: It was, yeah, because they found out about all kind
Speaker 1: of crazy stuff to the point where my mom was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: he's not good to be around your daughter, and her
Speaker 1: mom was like, she's not good to be around your son.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, like crazy crazy. I don't
Speaker 1: think my first time having sex. I don't think we
Speaker 1: did it right. I think we were just like hunching
Speaker 1: and then I think he came in. Yeah, we were
Speaker 1: brom virgin. That's cute. We were both virgins, and I
Speaker 1: don't think we really did it like to this day.
Speaker 1: My first time had a sex episode. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think it really did. He attempted, but I don't
Speaker 1: think it really worked. No. Mine was so bad. I
Speaker 1: didn't have sex for two years after that. It was
Speaker 1: that bad because I think this is terrible. People like
Speaker 1: them a good time. My first time did it hurt?
Speaker 1: It hurt, and it was quick and then I bled
Speaker 1: and then I felt mad different after I was like,
Speaker 1: I remember walking around like I'm not a virgin anymore.
Speaker 1: I don't know. And then I would think I lost
Speaker 1: my virgin and cheek to a bicycle seat that was missing.
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. When I was young, I hit a bump.
Speaker 1: I just realized gin and juice is bringing out a
Speaker 1: lot of things. I was on a bike and I
Speaker 1: was going up hill and and it was that bicycle
Speaker 1: seat wouldn't know just the pole and it went down
Speaker 1: and I bled like a dog. Oh my goshy to
Speaker 1: the doctors. And I remember my father pacing and not
Speaker 1: letting my feet touch the floor and um them looking
Speaker 1: and yeah and uh. And then I had to sit
Speaker 1: on Maxi pads. I haven't thought of this in a
Speaker 1: long time, Maxi pads. And he would have the kids
Speaker 1: come and play in front of me so I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have to move. I think I was about it's probably
Speaker 1: about seven or race. But yeah, good time. She probably
Speaker 1: stop her high man for sure you might helped out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was more than breaking your hand. You know, I
Speaker 1: only had a little bit of wood broke her. You know,
Speaker 1: after we fake had sex and I thought we like,
Speaker 1: you know, we we thought we had sex and we didn't.
Speaker 1: We stopped talking. He stopped talking to me for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: and I called him like, I'm pregnant. I wasn't pregnant.
Speaker 1: Oh my god to me. So I think he told
Speaker 1: me if I told him I was pregnant that he
Speaker 1: would want to talk to me. You do that, fake pregnant?
Speaker 1: It like four teen, I'm not gonna lie. So lame
Speaker 1: for that. He was like, when did you do what?
Speaker 1: You think you were pregnant? I knew I wasn't actually
Speaker 1: just trying to get him to talk to me because
Speaker 1: he was. He didn't really connect really, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you know my sisters went two younger sisters with the
Speaker 1: give my love to my sisters. Now you told him,
Speaker 1: you do you tell me lose it because that happened
Speaker 1: to me too. Somebody tell me it's pregnant before he
Speaker 1: knew I wasn't pregnant. Somebody told you they lost the baby. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's off. How do you know it wasn't true. I
Speaker 1: just didn't believe it from jump, Yeah, it was probably
Speaker 1: a lie. It wasn't. I didn't believe it wasn't. And
Speaker 1: then when she was like all right, I lost it
Speaker 1: right and then yeah, and it was just like, what
Speaker 1: did you come into. I heard that girls used to
Speaker 1: do that abortion spunger all the time. You knew how
Speaker 1: he was pregnant, to get a little four hundreds out
Speaker 1: of it. Oh, I didn't all trouble. Yeah, a kind
Speaker 1: of on, he said. I think that's why, you know what,
Speaker 1: I think, that's why for the rest of my life
Speaker 1: I was always paranoid, even with it's always because I
Speaker 1: remember she told me she was you're that guy at
Speaker 1: a pool out even with a condom. No, I know
Speaker 1: a guy that's so terri feel like that. I'm saying
Speaker 1: after when you said younger, you felt like you felt
Speaker 1: bad about it. You know what I'm saying. I think
Speaker 1: that's what I after. I just be paranoid, like she
Speaker 1: has twints. I guaranteed you, you know, like when I
Speaker 1: lost my virginity, like I was with the guy. He
Speaker 1: was more experienced than me, and I didn't like him
Speaker 1: anymore after. It was weird because like I didn't like it.
Speaker 1: It just wasn't That's how I was. It was I
Speaker 1: told you I had sex one Yeah, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing this, this is whack. I was cool.
Speaker 1: He started like being weird and like popping up to
Speaker 1: my house and like leaving Teddy Bears at my door
Speaker 1: because like I wouldn't answer his phone calls. Like I
Speaker 1: just felt discussed it. I don't know what it was,
Speaker 1: but I did not like him. No Mark, he couldn't
Speaker 1: touch me, not that I was like, stay the funk
Speaker 1: away from me. And now see I had did He
Speaker 1: lived around the corner for me. I did in for
Speaker 1: like three years, and so he would always try to
Speaker 1: have sex with me and I'd be like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: right before he was about to put it in, I
Speaker 1: feel like I changed my mind. I can't do it,
Speaker 1: and I just was never I wanted Yeah. So then
Speaker 1: one day he just put it in. Anyway, that's ripe.
Speaker 1: What's his name? Like, what's no he died in like
Speaker 1: a motorcycle accident or something. But anyway, yeah, sorry, I know,
Speaker 1: and I found out on Facebook. But anyway, So I
Speaker 1: would be like no, no, no, don't do it. And
Speaker 1: then I'd be like, okay, I'm gonna do it. No no, no,
Speaker 1: don't do it. And then this one day he just
Speaker 1: put it in, give it up. And it was mad
Speaker 1: quick and it was over, and I was like, it's terrible,
Speaker 1: so bad. I was like, this is awful. What what
Speaker 1: he got a question? All right? Have you come on?
Speaker 1: Go go comt I know, but it's like it's happened
Speaker 1: in Compton, right in the heart, right in the heart.
Speaker 1: I just remember that first time situation. And it was
Speaker 1: the first time situation, right and when on with it?
Speaker 1: Come on with it, long dramatic post. It was too juicy,
Speaker 1: that's my point. Okay, okay, let's go, let's go. It
Speaker 1: was too juicy. I got up at the end of
Speaker 1: the evening, turned on the light and it was blood.
Speaker 1: Oh that kind of drying. She was a virgin. Wait, wait,
Speaker 1: she was a virgin. It was her first time it
Speaker 1: worked her buriant or what was the first time? She
Speaker 1: was the first time, so give me that she was
Speaker 1: a virgin. So he made her know, like for me,
Speaker 1: when I lost my virginity, When I lost my virginity,
Speaker 1: everybody's different. When I lost my virginia. We've spoken about
Speaker 1: this before. I had to unexperience like Erica's. I had
Speaker 1: a guy who loved me a lie. He was very
Speaker 1: giants and encouraging. It didn't hurt, it was it was good,
Speaker 1: it was nice. I really liked it. But then Angela
Speaker 1: got raped her first time. I didn't leave, but I
Speaker 1: think that I had already stretched my ship out. So
Speaker 1: but it was three years. I don't know. But everybody
Speaker 1: that dancing, so she probably been broke her hand that
Speaker 1: you I didn't believe. I've wait a minute, how that sounds.
Speaker 1: That sounds like period? She probably did. You know, No,
Speaker 1: I have I have a girl, my one of my
Speaker 1: best friends. She lost her virginity. She lost her virginity
Speaker 1: to an older man and he was very well and
Speaker 1: dw that's how you say it, yeah and um and
Speaker 1: and she said that you so bad they have to
Speaker 1: buy a new mattress. Like she led a buy a
Speaker 1: new matches? Who paid for that? Like? She bled? So
Speaker 1: like the way you said, just so, this show was
Speaker 1: supposed to curage. She's my boy friends. We've never got
Speaker 1: this part with the blood and stuff, like I've never
Speaker 1: before she said, We're supposed to be encouraging women for
Speaker 1: a second room er. You want to talk about lingerie
Speaker 1: and blood? Yeah, I get the blood blood blood. Let's
Speaker 1: go to the lingerie because we were having a discussion
Speaker 1: about lingerie and when out the lingerie and use it?
Speaker 1: So do you? Yes? Yes, I believe that men are
Speaker 1: very visual creatures and I think that you present them
Speaker 1: something uh you know, tantalizing and it makes me feel
Speaker 1: good to do it if my stomach is not sticking
Speaker 1: to look thinks I love her? Yeah, and I suck
Speaker 1: it in. Yeah, what you want? I mean, you got
Speaker 1: you gotta faster that night, honey, I gotta two days.
Speaker 1: But you guys, you guys, pay attention to that because
Speaker 1: I know we're very self conscious about how we look.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter to you all. Really, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think so I don't think it matters because
Speaker 1: you know, but again, I feel like a I think
Speaker 1: it may be a help. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Maybe like maybe y'all think no, I think we over there.
Speaker 1: It's probably you know, you gotta still factor in chemistry, vibe.
Speaker 1: You gotta you know that. I feel like guys don't
Speaker 1: care about lingerie until they care about lingerie, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like everything is normal, everything is fine.
Speaker 1: But wait, why why don't you wear Lingerrate for me? Now?
Speaker 1: I want you to wear Lingerrate. I don't want to evering.
Speaker 1: That's what I just go straight to being new. Why
Speaker 1: are you buying it if you're not wearing it. I
Speaker 1: don't buy it. It doesn't it. I don't even wear
Speaker 1: underwear it off and never wear it. I only wear
Speaker 1: bras because I have to break friend. I feel like
Speaker 1: it's like from the public, the current and the criminal,
Speaker 1: my current boyfriend, the guy I've been ready for a while,
Speaker 1: Like when I first got with him, I wouldn't get
Speaker 1: back to that awhere like I had said, I said,
Speaker 1: when do you decide to put it on? And he's
Speaker 1: commenting on it, like do you be like all right
Speaker 1: linger right time? And then you running the bathroom like
Speaker 1: I'm getting into it. I think it's kind of fire
Speaker 1: when you wear the lingerie under your regular clothes, and
Speaker 1: then you know, you start sucking and it's like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: so and then it becomes like a present, like okay,
Speaker 1: and then that goes off to But you know when
Speaker 1: people be like I'm gonna go put something secono, I
Speaker 1: think it's like when I'm gonn slip into something uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go put on some shoes. I don't do
Speaker 1: that either. No. Let me tell you when I first,
Speaker 1: when I first got with the guy that I'm dating now,
Speaker 1: he um, he used to get excited when I would
Speaker 1: come and I will be wearing a pair of pants
Speaker 1: with no panties on. He would get so excited that
Speaker 1: chafe understand the sacrifice no infection. So you know, later
Speaker 1: on in the relationship, you know, I just felt like
Speaker 1: moving on and wearing panties more than like, I didn't
Speaker 1: care if it excited him anymore, you know what I mean? Right?
Speaker 1: And GJ doesn't wear a panty, no, but I have juices,
Speaker 1: I wear panties, and now I'm no, but now now
Speaker 1: I wear panties and he's even more excited about it,
Speaker 1: like he like he liked it, Like when when I'm
Speaker 1: not wearing panties. Like if I'm wearing a pair of
Speaker 1: tightes with no panties and I go to him, He's like,
Speaker 1: why are you not wearing panties? You know when before
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, you're not wearing panties. I would
Speaker 1: hate for my tod not be wearing his panties. But
Speaker 1: now when I show up, it's like he's looking and
Speaker 1: he's looking to see what panties I'm wearing. That Are
Speaker 1: you wearing panties? Definitely? Always brief yeah, always always, that's
Speaker 1: a brief looks like, but when do you not wear panties? Uh?
Speaker 1: Maybe when I'm doing yoga? Okay, we just learned that. Eric,
Speaker 1: does you know you're dog swinging downward dogs? Eric? I
Speaker 1: must stay now, I must say. I don't want to
Speaker 1: say no, now, I must stay now. I must say
Speaker 1: I like to be pousable. But normally, you know, this
Speaker 1: is always it's definitely wearing short. Yeah, there's lots of
Speaker 1: stuff falling that, the boss falling, the mass. I definitely
Speaker 1: want my mat behind you. I have a crooking yeah.
Speaker 1: And for women, I feel like, uh yeah, definitely have
Speaker 1: them all. Isn't it awkward thought where underwear. For guys,
Speaker 1: I feel like your boss be stuck to like your
Speaker 1: thoughts if you don't. Yeah right, you're talking about the
Speaker 1: other ones that you know, like if you don't have
Speaker 1: underwear yea. Also they don't stick to your thie. Oh
Speaker 1: see I don't. That's what I'm saying. That's uncomfortable. Then
Speaker 1: a whole day when you zipping up your pants, you're like,
Speaker 1: you be careful, stuck in a zipper movie with up.
Speaker 1: That happened to my dad something, Yeah, he zipped that's again,
Speaker 1: that's a second. Um. Something about because that's real. Something
Speaker 1: about Mary was a really great one. I really like that. Crazy.
Speaker 1: I don't even want a chance. Now for Eric and Erica,
Speaker 1: you guys both now, Erica you were married to a
Speaker 1: man who's creative, and Eric you are also married to
Speaker 1: a woman who is creative. That's my fan a maya. Yes,
Speaker 1: Now do you think you could be with somebody that
Speaker 1: was like completely the opposite from you? Man, I've tried everything,
Speaker 1: so where we want to go with it? Because m
Speaker 1: you know, being with a woman that isn't in it,
Speaker 1: it's tough for them to understand what it is. Will Amia,
Speaker 1: she had so much experience, and she kind of just
Speaker 1: encouraged me. You know, she encourages me, like go go go,
Speaker 1: even more than I want to. I'm not really trying
Speaker 1: to be home because I have a family. I got
Speaker 1: a little son that's three years old, so I don't
Speaker 1: want to spend the second way from him, you know.
Speaker 1: But when it's time to work and I'm like I
Speaker 1: gotta go again, I gotta go, She's like, just go
Speaker 1: live your best life. Have fun, you know, because you
Speaker 1: never know, you know what i mean, Like the moment
Speaker 1: could be gone, you know, so just enjoy it. And
Speaker 1: you know, because for her, she's like I did it
Speaker 1: and I'm not doing it anymore, So just live. She
Speaker 1: pushes me and encourages me with it. So it works
Speaker 1: for her, but a lot, yes, she understands it completely,
Speaker 1: you know. And for the girls that don't get it, man,
Speaker 1: it's just tough. It's like they thinking negative all the time.
Speaker 1: They're thinking so much is going down at the studio.
Speaker 1: They're thinking, you know, it's strippers, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like girls, just girls. It has been but to just
Speaker 1: to just have somebody that understands it's just totally different
Speaker 1: than because then you got to do with the nag
Speaker 1: and and the arguments, which probably is going in the
Speaker 1: relationship at some point anyway. Now, Erica, what about you?
Speaker 1: You were married for how long? Almost twenty years? Almost
Speaker 1: twenty years, and you recently got divorced. Well, yes, I'm
Speaker 1: in the process of divorcing. It's it's probably one of
Speaker 1: the things that's been very difficult for me. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I do feel like you've been going really hard because
Speaker 1: you have your own production company, media company that launching.
Speaker 1: That's right, and he's also still my creative partner on
Speaker 1: the comic book Concrete Park. I mean, he just didn't
Speaker 1: get along. Let's tell people was very simple. We just
Speaker 1: didn't get along and we hadn't ever really gotten along
Speaker 1: as well as we needed to to create a relationship.
Speaker 1: And one of the things we were talking about about
Speaker 1: understanding is there's a certain understanding around people who are
Speaker 1: artists are let's say free spirits. I think free spirits
Speaker 1: meaning entrepreneurs who are sort of ordering the world in
Speaker 1: the way that they're hoping and shaping their uh you
Speaker 1: can say brand or their goals to be. You kind
Speaker 1: of have to you're not in a rigid system. So
Speaker 1: often their schedules or bizarre, and their alliances and their
Speaker 1: friends seem you know, could seem shady to you. But
Speaker 1: you're flying blind and you need somebody who understands that.
Speaker 1: Most artists really who are successful at all, have great discipline,
Speaker 1: they have great work ethic, and they are moving towards
Speaker 1: something in a way that's zig zaggy, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that there's anything inauthentic to it or wrong or
Speaker 1: oh you have to watch out for that person. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of distrust that comes from people who are
Speaker 1: used to rigid systems where they go in nine to
Speaker 1: five and then they shut off at the end. But
Speaker 1: that's not an artist, and artists thinking the probably about
Speaker 1: that lyric and that song right then and there, and
Speaker 1: they need to let me call that person, and you're
Speaker 1: sort of signing up for that. That's sort of you,
Speaker 1: and you are signing up for that. So I think
Speaker 1: what happens is you're trying to find people who don't
Speaker 1: see themselves inside of your career as being um um
Speaker 1: uh like less than and they can they have enough
Speaker 1: strength inside themselves to see that, if anything, you're running
Speaker 1: very hard towards something that you can never hit. Your
Speaker 1: like going like this and running as fast as you
Speaker 1: can and as long as you can before you burn out.
Speaker 1: And I think that that takes tremendous courage for a
Speaker 1: person to enter a relationship like that. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's a thing about creativity, because I think
Speaker 1: that artists need to be around people are creative. But
Speaker 1: if you're in the financial system, you can be creative.
Speaker 1: You can be somebody that's open to whimsy or uh,
Speaker 1: you know, destiny, but you have to also most again,
Speaker 1: people like David Bowie and all these people, they are
Speaker 1: business people. They're doing business and sometimes with huge companies
Speaker 1: and people's um whole lives, uh leverage against whether they
Speaker 1: do good or bad. That show must do good because
Speaker 1: it's got twenty people it's feeding. So I I think
Speaker 1: that when people understand that and they don't see you
Speaker 1: as well, you know you're doing this and that's not
Speaker 1: a joke just because I don't work at the post
Speaker 1: office and you don't get it. But if they get it,
Speaker 1: then they fall. And when I say fall in line,
Speaker 1: meaning they know their place, and I say their place
Speaker 1: is at the top as a priority, but it's not
Speaker 1: necessarily in something that fits within the realm of um uh,
Speaker 1: something that's like stamped out in a pattern. You know. Interesting.
Speaker 1: You said you guys were together for twenty years but
Speaker 1: never really got along like that. So how did they
Speaker 1: last that long? Well, I told you I was had
Speaker 1: a religious background. I'm a loyalist. Um I'm I have
Speaker 1: great loyalty, and I think that once I'm a friend,
Speaker 1: I'm usually a friend forever. But I also never saw it.
Speaker 1: My parents weren't made for each other. They were both orphans,
Speaker 1: and they made it up in front of each other.
Speaker 1: But I didn't see them happy, not not in the
Speaker 1: way that I thought that. You struggled, And then I
Speaker 1: realized that you were supposed to take talking about the
Speaker 1: pursuit of happiness, the pursuit of happiness extends to your
Speaker 1: relationships and what you allow. And why are you supposed
Speaker 1: to be arguing over small things all the time to
Speaker 1: the point that you're and break down, and then you're
Speaker 1: only happy among when there's a lot of people in
Speaker 1: the room and you're not really relating to each other.
Speaker 1: We can do business because we greatly respected each other.
Speaker 1: And I respected his mind and his creativity and his
Speaker 1: and his skills and and I think, I don't think
Speaker 1: I know that. I mean, I really love the man.
Speaker 1: But if you're not really getting along, then you're not
Speaker 1: able to be intimate. You're not able to love the
Speaker 1: way you need to. And the artists needs to be
Speaker 1: loved more importantly, they have to be able to love.
Speaker 1: There's a great need to extend the love so you
Speaker 1: can have something to feed you. And if you don't,
Speaker 1: then you're lonely. I heard so many stories about people
Speaker 1: who you never I was embarrassed. What can I do know?
Speaker 1: And you know what, when um, it's a blessing. Like
Speaker 1: you said, to find someone who gets it, who gets
Speaker 1: it when you're working in this business. But and you
Speaker 1: would expect that when you meet someone who's working in
Speaker 1: the same business as you, that they would get it.
Speaker 1: But a lot of times you can people I date
Speaker 1: guys in entertainment and they don't understand my the way
Speaker 1: I work, like they don't understand it, Like if I
Speaker 1: have to go host a party, I'm a prostitute. A
Speaker 1: lot of times you know what I'm saying, and it's like,
Speaker 1: any I feel like you should know the game, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing, you you know exactly what that's
Speaker 1: what's going on. I just don't understand, like that's that's
Speaker 1: a blessing to have somebody who gets it. That's the
Speaker 1: only I hope you do with them. I hope so too.
Speaker 1: I just hope God, God says me somebody who understands
Speaker 1: and who loves me for for everything that I am,
Speaker 1: for everything out very surely, thank Scots. It's truly sweet.
Speaker 1: I love this conversation that positive we got. If you
Speaker 1: ever regretted telling somebody something in which you wouldn't have
Speaker 1: told them that, Like, you know how we sometimes we
Speaker 1: share with somebody and you're like, damn, I shared too much.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have said all that. Right now, I wish
Speaker 1: I had not had that gin and juice. I get
Speaker 1: it now. This is a this is the room of Amazon.
Speaker 1: I'm not really here. I'm you know, underneath mermaid spell.
Speaker 1: So I did what I could, but amazing. You know,
Speaker 1: I used to be I used to be the most
Speaker 1: closing person of all times. You know, um My music
Speaker 1: was my only outlet. You know, if I felt the
Speaker 1: way about something, it was hard for me to articulate
Speaker 1: it or get the message across without putting it in
Speaker 1: a song. You know. So that's why I think I
Speaker 1: released so much of music early on in my career
Speaker 1: and even til now, because I just it's easy for
Speaker 1: me to write it, you know. But as of lately,
Speaker 1: it's been just a shift, you know, in my life
Speaker 1: to where I just feel like the more I talk
Speaker 1: the better. The more I can get off my chest
Speaker 1: the better. So you know, I kind of regret not
Speaker 1: feeling this sooner, you know. So for me, I'm just
Speaker 1: like trying to explode. Anytime it's like, yeah, let's do
Speaker 1: an interview, They're like, we only gonna you know, and
Speaker 1: make sure to keep it under the tent. I'd be like,
Speaker 1: I ain't got none, i ain't tripping, you know, just
Speaker 1: because I'm just feeling so much liberation from opening up.
Speaker 1: You know. I've been having so much bout it and
Speaker 1: from me as it's a new thing to just kind
Speaker 1: of let it all out. I always opening up for
Speaker 1: you today, Erica. It's a rough ride. I worry about it,
Speaker 1: and only because it's you know, it's not it's not
Speaker 1: that I like him. It takes a certain type of
Speaker 1: bravery to hope that people understand you pass your words,
Speaker 1: because sometimes it can come out so clumsy and it's
Speaker 1: not what I meant to say, or I don't want
Speaker 1: to hurt anybody that I'm talking about because I have
Speaker 1: not only great respect, but I also want to protect
Speaker 1: their privacy and how they a scene in the world.
Speaker 1: And I haven't spent my life talking about myself at all.
Speaker 1: Nobody wanted to know what, nobody asked, and I guess
Speaker 1: ultimately I was fine with it. But this is a
Speaker 1: different generation. You guys are a different generation, all of you.
Speaker 1: But you got I love the father people. You care
Speaker 1: so much about what you have to say. Yes, they do.
Speaker 1: Look every time you say something that's like yeah, like
Speaker 1: you see, I love the way you are articulating, like
Speaker 1: you remind me of some of the world. The best
Speaker 1: part about it is that we can tell it's so genuine.
Speaker 1: It's just who you are, how you are. You know,
Speaker 1: I'll be doing this ship okay, so it's just not allthing.
Speaker 1: But you know, she was so lovely and um, thank
Speaker 1: you Loriae. Something interesting and she was so lovely. I
Speaker 1: told her, I said, I was worried about my appearance.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to seem boring or inauthentic. I spent
Speaker 1: my life in Arizona and then came to Philadelphia and
Speaker 1: was in love Philly. But I was country girl while
Speaker 1: you talk so proper and all that, and I didn't
Speaker 1: feel like that was the case at all. But I
Speaker 1: felt like an outsider inside a place where I should
Speaker 1: feel like an insider, finally around black people. And then
Speaker 1: you get to be an insider because somebody says, oh,
Speaker 1: you can act, and then you're pulled out again and
Speaker 1: isolated and over and over again. I think people who
Speaker 1: are in the line like you can understand that that
Speaker 1: being called forward is sometimes the best and worst thing
Speaker 1: that could ever happen to you. And and then you're
Speaker 1: called forward to talk about things that you've been told
Speaker 1: your whole life as an artist, and not just recently.
Speaker 1: It's been a thing to talk about your but that
Speaker 1: they shouldn't listen to. They shouldn't know about you, they
Speaker 1: should know about your characters, they should know about uh.
Speaker 1: The actresses don't even have an opinion politically, And then
Speaker 1: we're in a time where if you don't speak up now,
Speaker 1: it could be the life and death of the world.
Speaker 1: And we're talking about ourselves and letting people to know
Speaker 1: that we're real people and that we're real businesses and
Speaker 1: this is not something that's a character. That I am
Speaker 1: a real person and that you know, you should know
Speaker 1: me a little bit more. But does it offend the
Speaker 1: people who want to see me in a fantasy way
Speaker 1: who kind of liked it, I'm a little off you
Speaker 1: know the radar. Well, Mike, I don't mean any harm.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be who I need to be
Speaker 1: for you right now. People aren't your character. No, that's
Speaker 1: like or any of your characters. You are Erica, You're
Speaker 1: not cousin Pam. You're not amazing. And Will Smith was
Speaker 1: And Will Smith just came on and said the same thing,
Speaker 1: like he came from a time where, um, celebrities they
Speaker 1: needed to have that mystery. They couldn't. They couldn't they
Speaker 1: could they couldn't voice their opinions. It was very important
Speaker 1: for them to be private. That's what made them big
Speaker 1: stars because nobody knew what was going on at a
Speaker 1: different times. Yeah, and he said, now he's on social
Speaker 1: media and it's just like a whole new world. Amazing.
Speaker 1: He loves it and everyone loves him on there. Now
Speaker 1: he's really funny. There. Now, let me ask y'all something
Speaker 1: do you think that you guys were better at having
Speaker 1: text when you were in your early twenties or now
Speaker 1: I think I'm better now. I think I would say
Speaker 1: that you ain't wear panties. Let me tell you all
Speaker 1: why I don't wear panties. I'm gonna tell you all.
Speaker 1: I don't wear panties. Panties are underpants right there undergarden.
Speaker 1: I was a stripper for most of my adult life,
Speaker 1: and my underpants wear my pants. So now I don't
Speaker 1: want to wear them underpants like you know, over pants.
Speaker 1: I'm over underpants over yeah, like from and And it's
Speaker 1: the elastic that goes um in between your inner thigh
Speaker 1: um in between you know, on the outside of the
Speaker 1: vagina area. It's irritates me under clothes. So I just
Speaker 1: don't like to wear them. And it's been so long
Speaker 1: of me not wearing them that when I have to
Speaker 1: wear them monthly, it's kind of annoying. But I know
Speaker 1: that I have to wear them monthly. Monthly, I have
Speaker 1: to wear that part of them and then and then
Speaker 1: when I don't have to wear them, I don't like
Speaker 1: Now if if I have one a dress, were short skirt,
Speaker 1: then you know I'll wear them because I'm not just
Speaker 1: going to expose my vagina to the elements. But tights, jeans,
Speaker 1: sweatpants today, I just don't wear them. I feel like
Speaker 1: wearing panties keeps me like really fresh and dry all day. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have a remedy for that, sayder in your badge.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no no. I put the order in
Speaker 1: my inner thighs and in my butt crack. Wow, because
Speaker 1: I can't use talcom pattern anymore. You get cancer now, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you die. It keeps you and keeps fresh and dry.
Speaker 1: That's the old stripper trick also, but you know, getting
Speaker 1: back to the question that you ask, I do feel
Speaker 1: like I'm better at sex now because the same shift
Speaker 1: I knew when I was funny. I know that's your
Speaker 1: still I know new ship now. You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So you gotta combine. You learn from experience, experienced, batter
Speaker 1: like wow, when I was younger, though seeing no, not me,
Speaker 1: I actually feel like older I get the better I
Speaker 1: get what. I gotta agree with you. I feel like
Speaker 1: when I was younger, I was more wild. I could
Speaker 1: take a slap by kick now but Jesus, not okay,
Speaker 1: not again, not again? Kick you kick you in my
Speaker 1: third leg. But I feel like I feel like I
Speaker 1: used to like it a little rougher when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, and now now I'm a little older, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, baby, had like, because then you can't you
Speaker 1: gotta watch your face. They might hit you too hard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like, I mean, I still like the passionate. I
Speaker 1: still like the passion, you know, like I still like
Speaker 1: that that passion and um, you know makeupsess when you're like,
Speaker 1: oh you're you've been so bad and you're bad girl.
Speaker 1: I liked that. I still like that, you know, but
Speaker 1: not too long ago. I was drunk and you know,
Speaker 1: you guys know I like a little slap here and
Speaker 1: there sometimes choke. Yeah, And we was having sex and
Speaker 1: and the nigger choked me so hard. I was like,
Speaker 1: excuse me, this guy choke you so hard. I was like,
Speaker 1: and I was drunk at everything, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I took his hand off on my
Speaker 1: throat and he's laughing, and I'm like, you know what
Speaker 1: you're doing too much, like you're doing the most. And
Speaker 1: he's like, you know you like that, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm tired. I don't play with that choking ship but
Speaker 1: let forward. You go too far and that's sorry that
Speaker 1: has happened to me. I think I think I'm a
Speaker 1: little I think I'm a little more of a square now. Man.
Speaker 1: Right now, that's the thing that you end up the
Speaker 1: stake because they got into it and they're coming. I
Speaker 1: was watching this, I was watching this like, she don't
Speaker 1: get chuck and nothing. I think she should choke. If
Speaker 1: I ain't nobody choking me, you should check someone. Though,
Speaker 1: I think trump it happened. Um No, I just feel like, um,
Speaker 1: when I was younger, I could take a little more pain.
Speaker 1: Now I'm like, I'm kind of rusty. Like I want
Speaker 1: to feel good. I want to feel good, like make
Speaker 1: me single, don't make me you know twitch, I'm not
Speaker 1: I want to single. I'm not gonna say every night
Speaker 1: you need the well and go crazy and all that.
Speaker 1: But on the nights when I have to bring that out,
Speaker 1: I can bring it out like you can be passing
Speaker 1: it and do all that too. But like I said
Speaker 1: that same, I didn't learn more tricks from twenty to
Speaker 1: today from when I was twenty years I think the
Speaker 1: experience I talked about one of them, ya honestly think back. No,
Speaker 1: but I honestly, I honestly think happy. I have never
Speaker 1: make track. And it's very weird that y'all hear me
Speaker 1: saying I never did something sexually on the show, because
Speaker 1: y'all know I tried this about it. I tell you
Speaker 1: have so many dms. That's like, girl, you just put
Speaker 1: me on. I was like, Eric, she's the only one
Speaker 1: to here, Eric, she's the only one that's sex from
Speaker 1: the bag that's not all the time. Don't say it
Speaker 1: like that's the only one that had variations that position.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be big. I'm trying to go to bed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like gott to be open a love things. No,
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna getting the tip. Look, that's that's
Speaker 1: what I got to be. If you only getting the tip,
Speaker 1: it's not thick and good cutting a call. It's fabulous,
Speaker 1: Please cut me. But I feel like I feel like
Speaker 1: I got head older. But the thing is, but the
Speaker 1: thing is, when it's been backwards like that, I want
Speaker 1: to hear about this. I asked what I'm thinking. I
Speaker 1: don't want particular guy, how it's not that great. It's
Speaker 1: not that great. It's just you gotta look past the
Speaker 1: back part. You only you, only like you, only like you,
Speaker 1: like you're enjoying it because it's never happened. It's like
Speaker 1: that's going on. And if you always the string, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie to take a little bit of talent
Speaker 1: because you gotta figure out how to do it right,
Speaker 1: because remember it's on you. Just gotta do it right.
Speaker 1: Don't make it comfortable. You turn around. She said, she
Speaker 1: got with somebody dick in their own But did you
Speaker 1: know it don't work like that? Negative you didn't the
Speaker 1: curves like he was talking about. Do you have any
Speaker 1: tips for us? She's like, not no more. When you
Speaker 1: crossed the street, turn on right. I'm waiting for a
Speaker 1: te year from error because I first, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't even know what's going on right. I don't understand
Speaker 1: how Dick can roll back here. I don't want to
Speaker 1: do all that. You know, I don't know if that's created.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the band don't sound like he
Speaker 1: deserves all that. I don't understand what he deserve. It
Speaker 1: is what it is. I don't know anybody who can
Speaker 1: do that kind of trick. Your baby gaming hunts you,
Speaker 1: so I don't understand it. But whatever that's here for
Speaker 1: you stream. What's the what's the question? What's the derivative? Eric?
Speaker 1: Eric has clutching her pirls right now. Yeah, I had
Speaker 1: a chance. No, I don't have any tips. I wish
Speaker 1: I didn't, he said, He going two words more head
Speaker 1: what more head? More? Yeah, that timp is already given
Speaker 1: because the thing is it does so much. Listen, we're
Speaker 1: gonna give you all guys that same tip. That's real
Speaker 1: because share you can respect the box? Are you reciprocating that? More?
Speaker 1: Hid is more? That goes for you too. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: a giving thing, all right, But what would you rather do? Have?
Speaker 1: Fair in a black vagina? Black vegina? Oh, no, fear,
Speaker 1: no fear. I'm definitely a person. It's like I'm a
Speaker 1: romantic though, it's like, let's go crazy. Is at the
Speaker 1: same time? Do you like to do the same same time?
Speaker 1: I'm not a big sixty nine. I want to focus
Speaker 1: on nine is overrated. It is sixty nine. You're definitely
Speaker 1: gonna be the one enjoy the sight. And I do
Speaker 1: that all the time, like I'll start whatever whatever, and
Speaker 1: then when I start feeling like it felt real good.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, A portion of the sixty nine is over
Speaker 1: now it's just you. Yeah. I hate when I actually
Speaker 1: don't have a chip. I just realized, tip and this
Speaker 1: is real, This is real, And I'm telling this is
Speaker 1: the ghost of Christmas future talking at you. A right,
Speaker 1: no doubt, Uh, stay in shape it watch your diet
Speaker 1: because the truth is it can affect your sex, life, gas,
Speaker 1: all sorts of other things that come up. You know,
Speaker 1: that's real, I'm telling. And when you eat it, that's
Speaker 1: the way your vagina smells and taste exactly. And then
Speaker 1: people don't. That's right. And if we don't want they
Speaker 1: are usually much more receptive and much more aggressive in
Speaker 1: a way that's very sexual. They don't and it's more
Speaker 1: stamind same with women. So I believe that it's when
Speaker 1: people start to think it's dying off that they just
Speaker 1: get into an exercise program and start to think about
Speaker 1: what they eat and and and no, thank you, right
Speaker 1: Compton from content, he said, it's notes from com from
Speaker 1: competent making it right. Next song, the next backet, God
Speaker 1: bless you everything. Now that you're about to be single,
Speaker 1: are you dating? I am? I am? I yeah, I
Speaker 1: appreciate too, Yeah, I know it's lovely. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: look I'm not necessarily good at it. I'm somebody hit
Speaker 1: on me and it's you know, I'm immediately like I'm
Speaker 1: the worst person to hit on. Its not like because
Speaker 1: I don't have any game, you know, it's guys just
Speaker 1: you know, as I don't even like to titter tat,
Speaker 1: you know, but I appreciate it. And I talk in
Speaker 1: a way that I think throws people because I'm a
Speaker 1: little sort of Asperger's But it is what it is
Speaker 1: that I mean in a good way, you like, you know,
Speaker 1: like so um, it's it's a wonderful thing. No, I
Speaker 1: feel like it's hard for me to day too. That's
Speaker 1: why I hate when I have a breakup and then
Speaker 1: I gotta start dating again because I'm such a forward person,
Speaker 1: Like I don't like to beat around the bush. I
Speaker 1: don't really like, you know, the fake ship. So it's
Speaker 1: like I don't believe anything you say. Already I only
Speaker 1: know you for five minutes' you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: It's exactly like what are we gonna do? What are
Speaker 1: we gonna get married? And is it a relief for you? Eric?
Speaker 1: Like then I have to worry about stuff like that.
Speaker 1: No more, He's been it's been over three years now
Speaker 1: and telling you, I really I think being with the
Speaker 1: right person is important, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: forced a lot of relationships, like I just try to
Speaker 1: keep working it out a lot of times, and it
Speaker 1: was just always tough. But now it's just no effort,
Speaker 1: you know. It's it's really good. We both respect each other,
Speaker 1: we both are attracted to each other, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And I don't know. We don't argue and
Speaker 1: that has a lot to do and how much not
Speaker 1: one argument. We don't really argue, like we might talk,
Speaker 1: but it's not much to argue about right now. But
Speaker 1: you know what, it's so important to hear something like
Speaker 1: that because so many people think that when you're in
Speaker 1: a relationship you have to argue, Like God's what's normal,
Speaker 1: you know, And it's okay to have disagreements. You can't
Speaker 1: agree with your friends, you know, all the time, like
Speaker 1: you're you're not supposed to agree with your lover all
Speaker 1: the time. But to have sick arguments all the time,
Speaker 1: like that's just not normal. You know what, I really
Speaker 1: feel like part of being in a relationship is knowing
Speaker 1: how to effectively disagree, because we all are going to
Speaker 1: disagree at some point, But how do you handle that?
Speaker 1: And that's how you can really tell how you feel
Speaker 1: about a person when you know how to disagree and
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, we can disagree and we know how
Speaker 1: to make it happen so that we're not hating each
Speaker 1: other and crazy and communicating. I know it sounds so
Speaker 1: corny when people go, oh, communication is, but the real
Speaker 1: truth is like when you open up and really get
Speaker 1: to the point where you could talk to the person
Speaker 1: that you're in a relationship with and you could be honest,
Speaker 1: like there's nothing more and nothing better than something like that,
Speaker 1: where you can really just be like, this is what
Speaker 1: I don't like, this is what I like, or I
Speaker 1: need you to do something like this instead of whatever,
Speaker 1: instead of when you're holding it in, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, And that's when the argument start because you're
Speaker 1: really holding it in and you feel like, oh, I
Speaker 1: gotta hate this motherfucker says he always do ah, but
Speaker 1: you never say it, and then it builds up and
Speaker 1: then that's when y'all start hating each other and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. To communicate, yeah, exactly, Erica, how do you
Speaker 1: like guys to approach you? Now? Can they be like forward.
Speaker 1: What do you want them to do? Like, how does
Speaker 1: somebody get your attention? Smart? Just be smart having read
Speaker 1: a newspaper? Have you know to be curious? Be open,
Speaker 1: don't be so rigid, um um be um animated. Don't
Speaker 1: worry about how you come off. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Life is too short. What if they're a fan of yours?
Speaker 1: Is that weird? What if they're like a fan of yours? Like, well,
Speaker 1: I hope they are like they own But no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not like that at all. I don't know. No, no,
Speaker 1: I meet plenty of people with no idea who I am.
Speaker 1: The thing is that I just think that I think
Speaker 1: that people present themselves through often many insecurities as opposed
Speaker 1: to the positive things about them. What people what? Sorry,
Speaker 1: excuse me. Media can prime yourself, prime people to want
Speaker 1: to play this game, or present themselves as a false
Speaker 1: narrative of themselves and just just you know, or it's
Speaker 1: too much you You're coming with everything and at one time,
Speaker 1: and then people don't get a chance to sort of
Speaker 1: just take you in and and just it's okay, it's
Speaker 1: all good. Before we get out of here, I just
Speaker 1: want you to plug your media companies, so people know
Speaker 1: what you have going on because I know you guys
Speaker 1: a look of her projects right now. That's true, Thank you, Eric.
Speaker 1: I have a color It's called color Farm Media. And um.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are talking about inclusivity and what
Speaker 1: it is to be diverse, and it almost to add
Speaker 1: nauseum to the point where people don't it doesn't mean anything,
Speaker 1: but it really does. Representation matters. You talk about people
Speaker 1: saying they might have gone to law school because they
Speaker 1: saw a Max, or even the fact that you see
Speaker 1: Max with the braids because I saw Hippy Goldberg do it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wasn't doing it inside of a vacuum.
Speaker 1: Representation matters because you look at Black Panther that is
Speaker 1: now one point three in surpassed Titanic, and it matters
Speaker 1: that suddenly we're seen from Africa as kings and queens,
Speaker 1: as opposed to can you please bear a dime and
Speaker 1: help those poor negroes across the ocean who are dying
Speaker 1: in the sand and in the wind um. That changes
Speaker 1: how people see us. They will shoot down black men
Speaker 1: in the middle streets and cold hostage black women who
Speaker 1: are the by the way, as a population, are the
Speaker 1: most going into prisons nowadays with no thought to the
Speaker 1: end game because they don't see us in their dreamscape.
Speaker 1: They don't see us being aspirational. But it you you it,
Speaker 1: you'll stop for a second think I'm shooting down Um
Speaker 1: to Challa. You know what, I'm serious. And it matters
Speaker 1: because the whole time we've been had this narrative around
Speaker 1: forty eight hours, and what we um the sort of
Speaker 1: lowest version of how you can see a human being
Speaker 1: as being problematic. So I think that Color Farm, going
Speaker 1: back to color Farm Media, there's all these great voices, writers, performers,
Speaker 1: people who see the world in a different way that
Speaker 1: have never had a bridge to what Hollywood how Hollywood
Speaker 1: finances film and television. So like Deaf Jam and or Motown,
Speaker 1: there are people or corporations or places that should create
Speaker 1: a bridge. And so at Color Farm were looking for you.
Speaker 1: We're looking for people who who have something to say,
Speaker 1: who probably have something in the drawer that they thought
Speaker 1: nobody would pay attention because they didn't have the agent
Speaker 1: or they have the manager of the representation to get there.
Speaker 1: But now I think the world is looking for you,
Speaker 1: and if not, we're going to create a space but
Speaker 1: we're also doing a way that's innovative because there's all
Speaker 1: this sort of new technology with blockchain and cryptocurrencies, so
Speaker 1: we can go around um uh, the white male filter
Speaker 1: that is still sort of rejecting or accepting a narrative,
Speaker 1: whether it's Netflix or Hulu, but it's still around their algorithm,
Speaker 1: and that's wrong. Black people have never been on anybody's algorithm.
Speaker 1: You would have never got Stevie Wonder, Diana Ross or
Speaker 1: Marvin Gay if Barry Gordy hadn't created Motown. Is saying
Speaker 1: with the whole rap game, there's all these amazing and
Speaker 1: by the way, not just talented people, world builders who
Speaker 1: literally re re retrained our minds around music and created
Speaker 1: a different backbeat, but there was, uh, you know, the
Speaker 1: whole music business sort of shifted. So that's what we're
Speaker 1: trying to be before the moving image. Alright, good, so
Speaker 1: let's make sure everybody goes to color f om media
Speaker 1: dot com. Thank you, Yeah, I appreciate it. And Eric,
Speaker 1: you have an album out right now, Yes, just drop
Speaker 1: the album. It's called easy Call. It's very sexy, very sexy.
Speaker 1: The first song when the album is called legs, So
Speaker 1: that just gives you an idea. I wanted to try
Speaker 1: to do um R and B. That was the R
Speaker 1: and B that was missing that people when people say
Speaker 1: people say R and B is dead, I want to
Speaker 1: write the album just for them. That's perfect, just for them.
Speaker 1: So R and B Lovers out. There's fifteen songs. It's
Speaker 1: all you know, original songs, and I think it's my
Speaker 1: best work yet. And I've done a lot of work
Speaker 1: that's good and I've really just feel like this is
Speaker 1: it's like all the songs that you know, I've worked
Speaker 1: on of the years and not put out because you know,
Speaker 1: I felt like maybe I needed to be signed to
Speaker 1: a major label so they could be pushed the proper
Speaker 1: way and I didn't want them to go over people's
Speaker 1: heads or you know, just get missed under the radar.
Speaker 1: It's being like, so what, I love it and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just put it out because the world needs it,
Speaker 1: regardless if I get the gratification or not. It just
Speaker 1: needs to be out. Songs are really good. Just ask
Speaker 1: you who you were your R B heroes. I'm just
Speaker 1: asking given. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. Today we was
Speaker 1: having a conversation talking about like top five R and
Speaker 1: B artists right before we came over here, and I
Speaker 1: just had to break it down into the artists albums
Speaker 1: that I know, you know, because there's a lot of
Speaker 1: artists out there, but I have to go by the
Speaker 1: albums just because I'm a you know, body of work
Speaker 1: type of guy. And you know, people like, of course,
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson and Brandy with Full Moon and jagget Edge
Speaker 1: with j E Heartbreak was playing Jeousy of course, of course,
Speaker 1: and you know Ussher Confessions Tank Sex, Love and Pain
Speaker 1: Tank Tank that album. Yeah, so this is my version
Speaker 1: of those, but in the way that it needs to
Speaker 1: be articulated into the new generation to today. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: you're a fire writer because like you write for everybody.
Speaker 1: Even my dad be loving the songs you right, he
Speaker 1: put me onto that Chris Brown wrote, he gave the crib.
Speaker 1: He was the first person I played the boss heard
Speaker 1: the song like Chinese. Yeah, well about that because the
Speaker 1: most he put that on, he put me on, she
Speaker 1: might have had already heard, you know. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: an easy call out. Now. The single Goat was out
Speaker 1: there the Go with Tiana Taylor and Wile. So I
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming to Erica. He heard you were going
Speaker 1: to be here. He really wanted to come in childhood.
Speaker 1: You know, we're locked in time. Eric and Erica. It
Speaker 1: was a conquering name. Oh yeah, a little bit of
Speaker 1: a protector of their people like that. I never knew that.
Speaker 1: Good luck with that, thanks to protector of something else.
Speaker 1: I don't pay it. Hello, it's been a pleasure. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much. Juice with you, that's what you like?
Speaker 1: Way imagining Erica on the subway every day, say something
Speaker 1: for sure, I'm like solving, No, it's nice. People just
Speaker 1: usually winking me. Alright, lift service, Erica, Alexander and Eric
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