1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotlep Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five, 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: by searching app as car Boom Up America Doug Gottlieb Show, 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: Fuck Sports Radio. I hope you're having a great day. 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: The Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast live every single day in 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: this case from really really sunny and beautiful Green Bay, Wisconsin. 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: Plus you got Sherman Oaks, California together on this jod. 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: It's great, man, We're happy to have you. 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: Just are. 13 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: Okay, Let's let's get after it. You know, I think 14 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: we have a little bit of clarity on the Brown situation. 15 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: I'm not sure the path to where they got makes 16 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: a ton of sense. You know. It's like we didn't 17 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: really get a chance to dig in on what Kenny 18 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: Pickett is. I'm not sure I understand why they signed 19 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett. If we're gonna go with no one got 20 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: a real shot, it'd be Kenny Pickett. But regardless Kenny 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: Pickett is now a backup for the Raiders, and the 22 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: Browns have clarity. The clarity is that Joe Flacco is 23 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl champion quarterback, granted long in the tooth, 24 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: is gonna be the starter, and then at some point 25 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: in time, my guess is both Dylan Gabriel and Shador 26 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: Sanders will get an opportunity. I think the issue is 27 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: that while there is clarity, there's still a ton of 28 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: noise as to the order of and the fairness of 29 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: who gets what, when, where, why, how. But despite that, 30 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: I actually kind of get what the Browns seem to 31 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: be trying to do. They know they're not great, they 32 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: might not even be good. Flacco gives them a chance 33 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: to be just solid at quarterback. He's taken them to 34 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: the playoffs before no reason. Remember, they still have Deshaun 35 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,839 Speaker 1: Watson under contract for a couple more years now, likely 36 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: won't play this year coming off to achilles injuries, but 37 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: still there they're trying to find They're actually sort of 38 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: going through the process of trying to find a quarterback. 39 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 1: In one of the two ways in which teams have 40 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: been really successful when they haven't had an elite quarterback, 41 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: they draft those two ways are somebody else's former quarterback. 42 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: You know, obviously this is not the financial level to 43 00:02:53,160 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: a Baker Mayfield, a Sam Darnold, a Genos, but it's 44 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: still the same idea a guy who is and no 45 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: one has seen it or done it more or at 46 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: a higher level than Flacco. Of those guys, Rams have 47 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: Garoppolo as their stopgap. Finding a guy who has experience 48 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: and some success in the league at a discount rate 49 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,839 Speaker 1: is a value. And then the other type of real 50 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: value quarterback is a young quarterback who's a third, fourth, fifth, 51 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: sixth round guy or maybe even mister irrelevant who you 52 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: actually are not allowed to pay them big money until 53 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: like their fourth or fifth year. That's what the Niners did. Now, 54 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is where they wanted to 55 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: get to. My guess is this is a stopgap year 56 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: next year or two first round draft picks. They want 57 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: to be drafting a quarterback in the first round, that's 58 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: my guess. But in the meantime, you take a swing 59 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: at a Flaco and you see what he can do, 60 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: and if not, you take a swing at some of 61 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: these young guys and see what they can do. But 62 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: you have to be willing to know this is short term. 63 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: I got to figure out something long term, and generally 64 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: a high first round draft pick it has a greater 65 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: likelihood of success. It's really easy to be critical of 66 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: the Browns. It is I would love to know the 67 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: real reason that they circle back to drafting Shador. My 68 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: guess is the owner encouraged them to do it, or 69 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: even told them to do it. Just I'd love to 70 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: know the process. But you also have to take into 71 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: context that much like when I go get a haircut, 72 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: I tell the barber, sorry, man, I'm not giving you 73 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: a blank canvas. Do the best you can with what 74 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: I got. And that's what they're doing in Cleveland. Whatever 75 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: you thought of the Deshaun Watson deal, that was mostly 76 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: the owner, and I'm not sure you could have foreseen 77 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: how disappointing his performance has been and the two Achilles 78 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: Tenant injuries. Right, Okay, So it's really easy for us 79 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: to say, hey, you know, why didn't they just draft 80 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: a guy, or hey, why didn't they do this, or hey, 81 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: we don't realize they were They're cash strapped and salary 82 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: cast strapped at the position because Desaun Watson is still 83 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: under contract and they redid his deal in the offseason. 84 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: So if you still have Deshaun Watson there and you 85 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: only had first round pick, and you have two first 86 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: round draft picks next year, you got Okay, how do 87 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: I get to next year while giving myself the best 88 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: chance to succeed this year? And then also maybe I 89 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: find a young quarterback who I don't have to pay 90 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: anything to, who can man my ship for the year 91 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: for a couple of years, and maybe I can trade 92 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: that first round draft pick even Taiwan if I find 93 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: my guy. But I promise you this, if you really 94 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: are a should door Sanders fan, say nothing, tweet nothing, 95 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: act as if nothing has happened, nothing has changed, and 96 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: just wait and if he's good enough and he performs 97 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: well enough, he'll be the guy for at the end 98 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: of the year and for years to come. And if 99 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: he's not, he won't. But the more discussion there is, 100 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: the more attitude there is, the more the calls for 101 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: him to play and fairness and people throwing out the 102 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: idea that there's racism involved. All this craziness you see 103 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: online from from people who bring in some emotional bias 104 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: to some other event that doesn't matter to Kevin Stefancy. 105 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: He wants to win, and if he's not in a win, 106 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: if he doesn't believe he has a winning team, he's 107 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: got to have one that's positioned for the future. And 108 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback who's drafted outside the outside of the 109 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: second round or in his case, outside of the top 110 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: four rounds, you're gonna be able to pay him nothing 111 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: and then build a team around him. I think that'd 112 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: be a great goal. That's, by the way, why it's 113 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: insane the people who say that Stefanski was trying to 114 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: sabotage Shador. He'd loves Shador to work out what he 115 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: can't do, and what I couldn't do, what coaches can't do, 116 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: is you can't put up with all this nonsense chatter 117 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: over either he's good enough for he's not good enough. 118 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: That's it. And if you watched the last game, if 119 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: you thought he was better, he thought he was a 120 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: better quarterback then the other two that are ahead of him, 121 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: then you just carried in the bias of I'm a 122 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: Shador fan. You didn't watch, doesn't mean they are better 123 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: than him. But Dylan Gabriel has played better than Shador 124 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: Sanders in his two preseis games and Joe Flacco is 125 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: more accomplished, is better, was completely at peace and got 126 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: the reps that he needed, got the reps need all right, 127 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: Coming up on the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox 128 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I was looking at this earlier today. That's 129 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: that's interesting. Uh, we got to we have a uh, 130 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: we do have this. We got King Graffrey Junior and Senior, right, 131 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: gonna join us a little later on the show. Yeah, 132 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna join us in fifteen minutes, King Griffy Junior 133 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: and King Graffy Senior together gonna join this in the show. 134 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 135 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 3: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 136 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 137 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: It's Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. I got a 138 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 1: thought for you guys. So the Bengals and Trey Hendrickson 139 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: came to an agreement, right, and basically the agreement is like, hey, 140 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: we're not gonna extend you, but we'll give you some 141 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,599 Speaker 1: more money this year. Right, We're not gonna extend you, 142 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: but we'll give you some more money this year. Now, 143 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: what does x Signifi. Remember they put him, you know, 144 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: they shopped him a little bit and there was no 145 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: trade mate. What does that mean. Well, it's possible the 146 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: Bengals asked for too much, but it's also possible that 147 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: other teams they didn't want to trade for a guy 148 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: who then they'd have to give a contract that they 149 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: don't want to have to good to give a contract to. 150 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: And they feel like, let's watch him play this year 151 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: and then we'll figure it out, figure out what we 152 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: want to pay him, what we don't want to pay him. 153 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: So tell me if this makes sense to you. Okay, 154 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: tell me this makes sense to you. Now, remember Trey 155 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: Hendrickson's deal is I don't think it's perfect by any means. Right, 156 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: They gave him a big pay bump for just a year. 157 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: He's gonna get fourteen million more this year. The revised 158 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: deal also includes one million dollars in incentives if he 159 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: plays sixty percent of the plays and the Bengals make 160 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: the playoffs. So he's gonna make thirty million dollars this year. 161 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: That's pretty good, But they didn't want to extend him 162 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: into extra years, or at least at the rate that 163 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: he wanted, so he could be a free agent at 164 00:09:55,080 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: the end of the year. They had discussed a two year, 165 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: seventy nine million dollar extension and the overall deal could 166 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: have equaled ninety five million dollars over three years, while 167 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: accounting for his original sixteen million dollars this year. But 168 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: there are no guarantees beyond this year, so the agent 169 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: must have go like, hey, you don't want to agree 170 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: to it, but beyond that, let's just give us a 171 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: raise and we'll be out the door if we if 172 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: we do well. I think it's a deal where no 173 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: one's happy. No one's really happy. Trey Hendrickson not really happy. 174 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: Is he with the Bengals yet? Does he get paid yet? 175 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: But does he have security beyond this year? No, that's 176 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: just like the deal that he could have signed. And 177 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: for the Bengals, they were held hostage and end up 178 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: having to double the price of their leading pass rusher. 179 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: And if he plays well, they'll probably lose him. If 180 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: he plays poorly, they probably don't want to keep him. 181 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: So what really changed when they had them under contract 182 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: and they didn't have to do anything. But you know 183 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: there's something about I know this from broadcasting. People always 184 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: say when you when both sides think you're a homer 185 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: for the other side, you you're right down the middle 186 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: as a broadcaster. And when both sides are a little 187 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: bit unhappy with a deal, you've probably nailed it with 188 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: this contract. It's the dug Outleab Show, It's Fox Sports Radio. 189 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: Earlier today, I got a chance to catch up with 190 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: Ken Griffy Senior and Ken Griffy Jr. Behalf a depend 191 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,479 Speaker 1: and there stands Strong for Men's Health campaign raising awareness 192 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: for prostate cancer screening. Guys, listen, it's obviously an honor 193 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: to speak with you both. I have to point out 194 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: that I'm right in the wheelhouse of fandom for the Griffies, right, 195 00:11:55,320 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: Junior was the biggest thing on Earth, Ken Senior, What 196 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: was that like for you to experience, right, not just 197 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: having him play with play with you at the same time, 198 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: but for your son to rise to where he was 199 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: literally the biggest sports star on Earth. 200 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 4: Well, that was to me, it was amazing. 201 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 5: I didn't think, you know it, it would turn out 202 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 5: to be like that, but just watching him play when 203 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 5: I first went over to Seattle, he told me I'm 204 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 5: playing left field and he's playing so he and he 205 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 5: draws a square box three square feet. 206 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 4: He said, you stand at that boxer and I got 207 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 4: the rest, and I said, yeah right. 208 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 5: You know, so I didn't believe him until I ended 209 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 5: up playing with him. How good he was in terms 210 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 5: how much ground he tell, what kind of army had 211 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 5: the power. 212 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 4: Which was really amazing to me. 213 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 5: I didn't know yet that much power because a lot 214 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 5: of time, you know, I mean you, I threw bat 215 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 5: and practice to him from twelve years old to just 216 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 5: about his eighteenth birthday. But and he didn't get it 217 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 5: hit in front of me games, you know, for six years. 218 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 5: So I just told Bobby Cox. But I was with 219 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 5: the Braids at the time. I said, Bobby was there 220 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 5: they right before they drafted him, and he said, he said, 221 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 5: well go here and see your son. And I said, 222 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 5: well he can't hit, you know. So end up that night, 223 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 5: you know, first two at bats he strikes out. I 224 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 5: got to go down till Cincinnati play the rest because 225 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 5: I went to Braids at the time we got killed. 226 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 5: I come back home and I asked him how did 227 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 5: he do? He said, I did fine. I said, how 228 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 5: did you do? He said three for five two on 229 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 5: run five r vat and like I said, he didn't 230 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 5: get to hit in front of me, tell his right 231 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 5: before his eighteenth birthday. So from twelve to eighteen, I 232 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 5: had to watch the drought and he did not make 233 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 5: contact those six years. So but to watch him play 234 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 5: when I got a chance to play with him, ah, 235 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 5: it was amazing. I enjoyed every minute of watching him 236 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 5: play because I didn't think he'd covered that was brown, 237 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 5: but he showed me he can do it. 238 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 4: And then his arm was outstanding. 239 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 5: I told him one time he threw Roberto it was 240 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 5: a Kelly out of home plate from centerfield wall. Yeah, 241 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 5: and I asked him, why did he get the cut 242 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 5: off man? It was easier to just throw it all 243 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 5: the way, you know, So yeah, he did get that out, 244 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 5: but I did talk about it. 245 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 4: Boy, cut off man can't ken You know. 246 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: What was the experience like for you? And again I'll 247 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: just tell you, like I was in southern California like 248 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: a middle school kid, and part of it was that 249 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: was in the sports center era, But you were the first, 250 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: like baseball player, Babe Bo Jackson a little bit before you, 251 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: but we first baseball player that we could just sit 252 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: and watch highlights of you all day, Like it was 253 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: mussy from your perspective, what was it like? 254 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 6: No, I mean, getting drafted a seventeen, make it to 255 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 6: the Biggers at nineteen, having guys. 256 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 4: Around me who had my back. 257 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, Harold Reynolds, day Valley, Nicky Brantley, 258 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 6: Darnelle Cole's, Jeffrey Leonard. I mean, all these guys were 259 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 6: like big brothers, and all the guys who played with 260 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 6: my dad's against my dad. Every city I went into, 261 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 6: they made sure that you know, hey, this is the 262 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 6: areas you stay away from. 263 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 4: This is I'm going to come get you. We're having lunch. 264 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 6: I mean, I couldn't ask for a better group of 265 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 6: you know, big brothers and uncles and things like that. 266 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I've fell into a horseshoe basically. I mean 267 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 4: the guys that you know took. 268 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 6: Care of me, made sure I was all right day 269 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 6: in and day out, you know. And the one thing 270 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 6: is true, I couldn't hit in front of them because 271 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 6: I wanted to. I wanted to impress my dad. And 272 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 6: he would sit there and he'd just go, why don't 273 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 6: just pretend I'm your mom? 274 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 4: Because my mom show up and I go off, he 275 00:15:59,040 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: show up. 276 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 6: I can hit and finally I got my first hit 277 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 6: and instruction really and he literally opens the window of 278 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 6: the r V and said, now was that so bad 279 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 6: and closes it and drives off. 280 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 4: And from that point on, I was fine. 281 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 6: But I just wanted to impress my dad like any 282 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 6: other because most people don't understand that, you know, he's gone, 283 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 6: because he's still playing it. And Saturdays and Sundays, you know, 284 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 6: most dads are watching their kids play, you know, their home. 285 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 6: And I didn't get that opportunity. So when I did, 286 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 6: I tried to kill the ball and it backfired. And 287 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 6: that's when I learned that if I just go out 288 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 6: there and play the game the way it's supposed to be, 289 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 6: I'm going to be fine. But it took me until 290 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 6: I was drafted. And even when I got drafted, he 291 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 6: came to visit me in Medford, Wriot. Yeah, and I 292 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 6: wrote four bats in one played appearance and it was 293 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 6: a ground ball back to the picture, and I can't 294 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 6: hit that bay, So I don't get one of that. 295 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 4: He's his son. 296 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 6: You don't have to learn or learn how to use 297 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 6: with bats, and you know I I from that point on, 298 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 6: I think the most bats ever broken one year was 299 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 6: maybe three. 300 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: You guys remember, I'm sure you remember that hat on 301 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: backwards controversy where you go into BP and people would say, hey, 302 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: you're disrespecting the game and Ken Senior for you for 303 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: for a guy who you raised the best player in baseball. Again, 304 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: same thing, like, you can't defend your son on doing 305 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: the right thing all the time. But this was like 306 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: a kind of a controversy controversy. How did that affect you? 307 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 4: They didn't know the story. 308 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 5: The story was when he was a little he was 309 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 5: always coming and his wife he told him, told the 310 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 5: kids up front, he said, if they would games, you 311 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 5: asked him coming to locker room. That was their biggest 312 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 5: thing was coming to locker om Pete Rose, people of 313 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 5: Peter Rows, Junior, him, my son, Craig Barrier's kids. You know, 314 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 5: that was the biggest thing, is getting the opportunity to 315 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 5: come into the locker room after a game because if 316 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 5: we lost, they were coming in. So they enjoyed that. 317 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 5: So the situation was Junior and the kids would come in. 318 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 5: They would go down to the to the cages to play. 319 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 5: You know, each temble grabbed their dad's glove or their hat, 320 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 5: and every day so Junior grab my hat and he's 321 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 5: running down there, and all of a sudden he's putting 322 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 5: the hat on like he's supposed to, you know, with 323 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 5: the bill out in front. 324 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 4: And every time he went to throw the vaull was 325 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 4: go down over his eyes. He couldn't see. But he 326 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 4: finally just turned it around so he can see. And 327 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 4: that was where him just catch and throw the ball. 328 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 6: You know. 329 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 4: It was no disrespect of baseball or anything of that nature. 330 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 5: And people took it that way because they didn't understand 331 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 5: what happened, what he had went through when he. 332 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 4: Was a young kid. I know, my hat was my 333 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 4: hat was bigger than his head from. 334 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: He said, you know, and. 335 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 4: That's that's what happened. But everything everyone turned off. 336 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: You guys realize though now you would walk out now 337 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: if you went to a plate appearance, everyone would turn 338 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: their hand, everyone would turn around. 339 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 4: That that was the reason. 340 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 5: That was the reason why he had his hat turned back. 341 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 5: It was he was disrespecting him just so you can 342 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 5: can see and catch the ball. 343 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 4: That's all. 344 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: If obviously you can hear from my voice, it's like 345 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: revered terms and talking about you can if you could 346 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: tell the if you wanted the younger generation to know 347 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: one thing about you and your career. What would it be. 348 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 4: One thing? Yeah, you don't got one shot of a career. 349 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 4: Take pride in it day in and day out. It's 350 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 4: pretty good. 351 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 5: You know, people take things for granted, like they're going 352 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 5: to be here tomorrow, They're going to do this tomorrow, 353 00:19:58,960 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 5: they're going to do that. 354 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 6: Now it's you know, you get one shot at the 355 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 6: thing that you want to do, probably for the rest 356 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 6: of your life. 357 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 4: Take pride in it. 358 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: Early detection it's so incredibly important for all men, especially 359 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: African American men. It's why I'm honored to have you 360 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: guys join us, Ken if you could. Why is it 361 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: important to you that people understand about early detection for 362 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: prostate cancer. 363 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 4: Well, that was the most important thing for me, was 364 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 4: the early detection. Going back to the history of my family. 365 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 5: I had four uncles that I lost through prostate cancer, 366 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 5: and knowing that a lot of them they never went 367 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 5: to the doctor and they never talked about anything, and 368 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 5: so if they would have talked about it at that time, 369 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 5: I would probably got to know more or. 370 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 4: Got the nul period. Because they died early and I 371 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 4: never got a chance to meet them. Even talk to them. 372 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 5: But to me, being diagnosed early or screened early, well 373 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 5: it's a chance that you're you'll be you'll be your 374 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 5: survival rate, you know, So being you know, to me 375 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 5: was the most important thing. Was diagnosed early. I mean 376 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 5: I had to go through so many changes with the 377 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 5: doing all the whole Actually, the whole process was kind 378 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 5: of tough on me because, like I said, I already 379 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 5: knew about it, but at the same time, you know, 380 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 5: my mother had talked about it and I was able 381 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 5: to go through the whole process. 382 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's Prostate Cancer Awareness Month. Depend of course 383 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: has put a million dollars a million dollars in Prostate 384 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: Cancer Foundation, and obviously you guys teaming up with with 385 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: Emmitt Smith as as part of this campaign. Guys, I 386 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: cannot thank. 387 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 4: You enough for your time. 388 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: And obviously you guys are the original father and son duo, 389 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: and I think your words and your belief and you're 390 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: telling people to open up a conversation, right, because that's 391 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: that's the hard part about it, right, Junior, is like 392 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: just having a conversation about it, which seems maybe embarrassing 393 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: to some, but it's way more embarrassing if you you 394 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't try and get early detection. 395 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 6: The actual conversation started, you know with us. You know, 396 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 6: a week after he got diagnosed. He was able to 397 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 6: sit down and tell me what was going on, tell 398 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 6: me about you know, the upcoming procedures, our family history. 399 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 7: And it. 400 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 6: Enabled me to be able to talk to my two boys, 401 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 6: you know, and let them know, hey, you know, this 402 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 6: is what's going on. 403 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: This is you know. 404 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 6: And I think that's the key, is to be able 405 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 6: to have the conversations. You know, one and eight men 406 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 6: are diagnosed, you know, and being able to to have 407 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 6: a survival rate that increases as the earlier de tech 408 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 6: is important. You know, knowing your family history, even if 409 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 6: you don't know your family history, go get checked, you know, 410 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 6: being able to to do certain. 411 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 4: Things to make sure that you're there. 412 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 6: I mean, there are a lot of things that he's 413 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 6: got to be able to teach my kids because my 414 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 6: kids don't listen to me, just like I didn't listen 415 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 6: to him. 416 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 4: It's always that skipper generation. 417 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 8: You know. 418 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 6: I tell people we have a he has a common 419 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 6: ally with my kids. They gang up on me, you know, Uh, 420 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 6: so you know he has to be around for them, 421 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 6: and you know, and for me when you know grandkids, 422 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 6: you know, I just had my. 423 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 4: First Yeah, so oh you didn't know that. Yeah, I'm 424 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 4: no longer exist. 425 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: I just I just know that that you guys are 426 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: both the black when they say black done crack that 427 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: I'm looking at you guys both and saying it's not 428 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: fair because ken literally look the same as when we 429 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 1: played and see like this is I'm you guys are 430 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: stuck in a time warp, but I'm not so I 431 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: had no idea, So congratulations. 432 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 6: But yeah, but this is just about you know, early detection. 433 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 6: I mean being able to have conversations. I mean that 434 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 6: is probably the key to a successful outcome is you know, 435 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 6: not be embarrassed. I think you know, as men were 436 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 6: supposed to be tough and you know, don't do this, 437 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 6: don't do that, don't say nothing. And you know, for 438 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 6: him to open up really shows me that I can 439 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 6: open up to my kids. And I think that's the 440 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 6: most one of the most important thing is to be 441 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 6: able to open up the family and and make sure 442 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 6: that it's an easy conversation. 443 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: King Kinger Jr. Absolute honor I think should depend for 444 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: having allowing us to have you guys on and this 445 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: is an incredible campaign. Thank you for being our guest. 446 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, It's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox 447 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 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He becomes one of only thirty three members 457 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: of the fifty home run club and he reaches the 458 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: upper deck like he did with home run number forty 459 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: eight yesterday, forty ninety crushed off the out of town 460 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 2: scoreboard and the magical season just con tissues for Cal Rawley. 461 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 3: Ho he smokes. What a shot. 462 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so 463 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: we've all done the mayakopas and we're wrong, and Kyle 464 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: Raley's kept it going. I don't know if this is 465 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: getting the attention it deserves right, Like to me, there's 466 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: all kinds of records. You know, I think I think 467 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: a lot of us grew to have a resistance towards 468 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: records or towards first of its kind with the Lebron 469 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: James era, right because he's been playing so long, and 470 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: because like Lebron James is the first ever player blah 471 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, and like 472 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: I get it, he's awesome, But it's not really it's 473 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: like we can create it's like created records. This is 474 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: not a created record. Cal Raly is a catcher. Catchers 475 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: don't perform nearly as well in the second half seasons 476 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: the first half season. He also plays in a ballpark, 477 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: which is the hardest in Major League Baseball. They hit 478 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: a home run in, and he's got fit the home 479 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: runs as a catcher, which you're not supposed to be 480 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: able to do. And it's not like baseball just started 481 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: keeping these stats. Granted they didn't start playing one hundred 482 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: and sixty two games until you know, I don't know, 483 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: forty years ago, okay, but regardless of how many games 484 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: they played, no one who played catcher hit this many 485 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: home runs. Uh, this is a and again I'm going 486 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: to I have no reason to believe otherwise. So this 487 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: is a drug free, unbelievable season from a player who 488 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: plays a position that traditionally wears you down, and he 489 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: end up playing in a place which is hard to 490 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: do what he's doing, and yet he's accomplishing all of it, 491 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: and he's the first to do it in a sport 492 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: which has gone for over one hundred and thirty years, 493 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: and they've kept stats of it, like Jase do Am 494 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,959 Speaker 1: I over selling how big this record is, how big 495 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: this number is. 496 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 8: You're not You're not over selling it at all. And 497 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 8: I was just kind of looking this up as you 498 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 8: were talking talking to make sure I got this right. 499 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 8: He's played thirty one games at d H this year. 500 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 8: To your point, most catchers haven't been good enough hitters 501 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 8: to be DH through the history of whenever they whenever 502 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 8: the American leek said they're going to bastardize the game, 503 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 8: and uh, interjected the disignated hitter. I want to say 504 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,719 Speaker 8: the early seventies, Isaac um So, but no catcher has 505 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 8: deserved to spend his off days as a designated hitter. 506 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 8: This is kind of a recent thing. He said, over 507 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 8: forty home runs now as a catcher, being a catcher 508 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 8: on the lineup and hitting forty home runs, that's by 509 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 8: far the big the most that anyone's ever hit. As 510 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 8: someone who taught myself how to switch hit, and again, 511 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 8: the furthest I ever played was Juco summer tryouts. That 512 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 8: was the furthest I ever got until the world told 513 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 8: me I couldn't play anymore. But I taught myself how 514 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 8: to switch hits. So I have a unique appreciation for 515 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 8: switch hitters. I love switch hitters. And the fact that 516 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 8: he has been able to do something that only Mickey 517 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 8: Mantle has ever done, hit at least fifty home runs 518 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 8: in a season as a switch hitter. I mean, it's 519 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 8: remarkable what he's doing. And if he didn't play in Seattle, 520 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 8: I think he would get more attention. I think that's 521 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 8: his problem. The Mariners are kind of like a I 522 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 8: felt this with each a row. It's just like they're 523 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 8: a team, but they just they kind of largely get 524 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 8: ignored by national media. 525 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: I would say that's completely true, completely true. But I 526 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: also think that part of the Mariners thing makes it 527 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: more impressive because that ballpark is hard to hit home 528 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: runs out of you know, first of its kind in 529 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball at a position that's really hard. 530 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 4: It's crazy. 531 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 532 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 3: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 533 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: Be sure to check out our brand new YouTube channel 534 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: for the show. 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Go check out the brand new 539 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: channel on YouTube again, just search Doug Gottlieb Show and subscribe. 540 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: Let's get to a game with Isac a Loane crime. 541 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 3: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 542 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: Hilo, What you come up? 543 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 9: Doug, get your ranking shoes on. 544 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: Rank them all right. 545 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 9: Let's start by having you rank the three best pass 546 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 9: rushers in the National Football League. 547 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: Three best pass rushers in the Nation Foball League. Okay, 548 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: hm hmm. Well if I go by man, that's so hard, 549 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: so hard because some of the guys who I think 550 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: are the best pass rushers are actually playing the inside. 551 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 6: I don't know. 552 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: Okay, the best ends rushers. I have to put Miles 553 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: Garrett in there. 554 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 6: I just. 555 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: I think I do. Miles Garrett would be He's considered one. 556 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: I can't. 557 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 9: I've heard Miles Garrett has great speed. 558 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: Ye, I'll go, I'll go t J Watt three. 559 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 9: See what Isaac did there? 560 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 4: Yeah? I did. 561 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,719 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out my names that I want though, right, 562 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: like I love Max Crosby, Aid Hutchson coming off that, 563 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Tej what Michaeh Parsons and Miles Garrett one? Three? 564 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 6: Two? One? 565 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 9: All right? Very good. 566 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 7: In light of the UH engagement news today, I want 567 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 7: you to rank the UH three most interesting power couples 568 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 7: of our lifetime, either both partners in sports or just 569 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 7: one of the two in sports. Wait, what the three 570 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 7: most interesting power couples of our lifetime? Either both in 571 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 7: sports or just one in sports. 572 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: Either way, three biggest power couples of our lifetime? Uh, 573 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: Stephanie Graff and Andre Agassi love love right? 574 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 8: Uh? 575 00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: I would say Tom Brady and Giselle right for a while? Yeah, 576 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: well I mayor married for a good amount. 577 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 9: Of time, right, good stints? 578 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? And then you know kate Epton and chesterin Berlander. 579 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 9: All right, yeah, they're still going strong. 580 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:22,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, good one. Yeah, the uh the Brady Giselle. They 581 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 7: actually had two wedding ceremonies, one in Brazil, but there 582 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 7: was gunfire at at the wedding in Brazil because yes, security, 583 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 7: the security guards fired at paparazzi as part of the 584 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 7: wedding festivities. 585 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 586 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 9: All right, now we're gonna we're going. 587 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 7: To uh kind of merge this next one with one 588 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 7: of our other games with the rotation. Look into your 589 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 7: crystal ball, and I want you to rank the Cleveland 590 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 7: Brown's quarterback depth chart and how it's going to look 591 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 7: on Thanksgiving weekend of this year. So rank what the 592 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 7: Browns quarterback depth chart is going to look like on 593 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 7: Thanksgiving weekend of twenty twenty five. 594 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: Wow, Thanksgi weekend. So are we like thirteen games in 595 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 1: then fourteen games in? 596 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 9: Let me give you a specific answer in double check 597 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 9: stand by. 598 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 7: That's literally live audio of me checking. So Thanksgiving weekend, 599 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 7: that's November thirtieth, seventeen, sixteen, fifteen, fourteen, thirteen. That's only 600 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 7: that's only eleven games into the season. Actually, how about that? 601 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I still think it'll be Flacco. I think it'll 602 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: be Flaco. I think it'll look exactly the same eleven 603 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: weeks in. I think, look, they run the ball a ton. 604 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: I think it's a smart offense. I actually think it's Flaco. 605 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: Do I think the rookies play? Yeah, but I think 606 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: it's the last four or five games of the year. 607 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 7: Now, in honor of the uh conversation you had with 608 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 7: the Griffies Senior and Junior, I want you to rank 609 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 7: the top three father and son sports duos of all time. 610 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 1: Best father and son sports does yeah? 611 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 7: Uh? 612 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: Clay and Michael Thompson three? Oh good, Yeah right, Clay 613 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: and Michael Thompson three, Stephen del Curry two and Ken 614 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: Griffy Junior, Kangravy Senior. 615 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 9: What solid? That's a solid group, all right? 616 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 7: You know around here, you know this next one is 617 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 7: kind of glass half empty, glass half full. But my 618 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 7: heart is cold right now because I walked into the 619 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 7: studio during our previous time out. 620 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 9: But that's another story anyway. 621 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 7: With that in mind, I want you to rank the 622 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 7: top three NFL teams that have the least hope going 623 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 7: into the season. 624 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 9: The least hope going into the season. 625 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: Top three NFL teams that have the least hope going 626 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 1: in the season. Hmm, okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, Yeah, 627 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. 628 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 8: Uh. 629 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: I know who's my number one? I feel like I'm 630 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 1: gonna go with the Jets at three. All right, Jets 631 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: at three. I'm gonna say, the Seahawks at two. Yeah, 632 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: and the Saints at one. Ah. 633 00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 9: That's a consensus for sure. Sorry Saints, Sorry Spencer, Sorry Kellen. 634 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 7: And our final item on this edition of rank Them 635 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 7: the other end of the spectrum, I want you to 636 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,919 Speaker 7: rank the top three best owners in the National Football League. 637 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 9: Top three owners in the NFL, top. 638 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: Three owners in the NFL. I know who number one is. 639 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 4: Mhm. 640 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: I'll do three. If the will still own the Vikings, Ye, 641 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: three will do? Wolf two will do? I mean Clark 642 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: Hunt right, I don't. I don't know how much they're 643 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: involved in football, but they're winning, so how could you 644 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,479 Speaker 1: criticize it? And the best owners in the nash Football League, 645 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. 646 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 4: I don't have the patience to jack with you today. 647 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 9: Sorry, Jerry didn't make the cut this time. That's this 648 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 9: edition of Rigum. 649 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 3: This is game time on the Dog Gottlieb Show. 650 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,720 Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. 651 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 1: There's a standoff we got to get to a reminder, 652 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: be sure check out the new YouTube channel for the show. 653 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: Just go to YouTube dot com slash at Gottlieb Show. 654 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: If you're already inside YouTube, just search Doug Gottlieb Show. 655 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: Be sure to hit the subscribe button. You have instant 656 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: access to our very best videos. Go check out a 657 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: brand new channel on YouTube. 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