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Speaker 1: Hi babe, Welcome back to the bonus episode of The

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Speaker 1: Gift That l LA Podcast. This episode is going to

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Speaker 1: probably be the first that is nearest and dearest to

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Speaker 1: my heart and soul. Today. I've partnered with Ninja Thirsty

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Speaker 1: to bring you this episode. It is all about sobriety.

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Speaker 1: I'm approaching six years one day at a time, but

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Speaker 1: six years in October October twenty second, and that's kind

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Speaker 1: of when I feel that my life became real and

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Speaker 1: it was. It is the proudest thing I've ever done

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Speaker 1: in my life, besides becoming a mom, but I think

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Speaker 1: beyond being a mom, this is probably the number one

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Speaker 1: thing that I'm proudest of because my sobriety has allowed

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Speaker 1: me to be the mom that I want to be.

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Speaker 1: I've asked you guys to share some of your sober stories,

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Speaker 1: and I'm grateful for whoever is like feeling comfortable to

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Speaker 1: open up about their sober journey because it is not easy.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people don't like to venture into their

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Speaker 1: rock bottom moment. That's one of my most favorite things

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Speaker 1: to do because it reminds me why I'm here. And

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Speaker 1: I think we got a lot of people who have

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Speaker 1: sent in notes and videos, so I'd like to just

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Speaker 1: kind of get it pop in now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a lot of beautiful, beautiful things, and

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Speaker 2: I feel like we'll save a ton of these two

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Speaker 2: for another episode, law, because there's so many, Okay, And

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Speaker 2: I just know people are always asking about your sobriety story,

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Speaker 2: even though you talk about it all the time. No, no,

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Speaker 2: all the time. But I'm like, she's You're always like

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Speaker 2: bringing it up, which I love. And then people are like,

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Speaker 2: she never talks about her sobriety, and I'm like, we

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Speaker 2: want to know the story.

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Speaker 3: You say you're sober, but I do. I can see

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Speaker 3: where they're coming from if they want the in depth.

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Speaker 3: It's behind the.

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Speaker 1: Scenes the bts of this silver lifestyle. Yeah, so I

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Speaker 1: tell you how the sparkling water, yeah, which the partnership

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Speaker 1: just made sense. I will say though, now that we

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Speaker 1: that I have chronic heartburn, the ninja thirsty stays with

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Speaker 1: no bubbles and just the flavor because like, I can

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Speaker 2: Really, Oh, I jack my bubbles up right now. Especially

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Speaker 2: I've been doing going on the rooftop of my apartment. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: to just like chill on Sundays, and I'm not drinking

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Speaker 2: right now. So I'm like, just because I don't want to,

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Speaker 2: it makes me feel yucky. So I jack up the

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Speaker 2: bubbles because you told me to put in the flavors,

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Speaker 2: and then I bring it up to the rooftop. I'll

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Speaker 2: do three of them in a giant water bottle so

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Speaker 2: it stays cold and I just sip all freaking morning

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Speaker 2: laud in the sun.

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Speaker 1: Oh she's a bubbly bitch. I'll be back at it

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Speaker 1: come September.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So first one, we did get a lot of

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Speaker 2: of a lot of things. We didn't get a ton

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Speaker 2: of videos, but I get that that's a very this

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Speaker 2: is a very vulnerable thing to write in with. So

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Speaker 2: let's play this first one from Rita on the Rocks. Rita,

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Speaker 2: thank you for sending this video. You guys will see

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Speaker 2: it in the YouTube video.

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Speaker 4: Hey Lala, my name is Ritaz and the Rocks. I

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Speaker 4: got so excited when I saw this message because sobriety

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Speaker 4: is so important to me. Plus, I wrote to you

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Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago and was telling you my

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Speaker 4: story about gambling and how I had two and a

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Speaker 4: hit a second bottom and when they say, you go

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Speaker 4: so much worse. I always knew I laid gambling. My

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Speaker 4: My dad and I found him when I was fourteen,

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Speaker 4: and I really want to get the message out there

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Speaker 4: about gambling. It is an epidemic in this country. It's

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Speaker 4: it's spread into state after state, and I mean in Ohio,

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Speaker 4: they are quote sending advertisements to to underage kids.

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Speaker 3: Yo.

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Speaker 4: I go on the boardwalk up here in New Jersey.

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Speaker 4: I'm in Wildwood, New Jersey. Your kpe mang up on

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Speaker 4: the boardwalk. It's like many casinos, but it is tickets thingts, tickets, tickets.

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Speaker 2: What we're doing is groominal.

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Speaker 4: We're just grooming the youngiges.

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Speaker 2: So that is that's the second video. So I think

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Speaker 1: Rita on the rocks. I wonder where her email went.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the email really quick, just because I'm gonna see

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Speaker 2: she does she mean DMS?

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Speaker 1: If she did DMS. But either way she got to me.

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Speaker 1: Now I agree with her. I think that the gambling

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Speaker 1: just because I came from Utah, and like when we

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Speaker 1: Yet I have a coupon, so that bitch certainly ain't

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Speaker 1: But I was kind of in the gambling world when

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Speaker 1: then you relapse, think about the shame. Then, can I.

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Speaker 2: Ask you about that? And this kind of has to do.

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Speaker 1: With both of you.

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Speaker 2: Is is there a rule? Because I was talking to

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Speaker 2: for three years and then I relapsed, and it was

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Speaker 2: So for me, I had to go no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I relapse one day, I'm back on and I am

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Speaker 2: I think I would have spiraled. Is there a like us?

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Speaker 1: Like she just picked up where she left off.

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Speaker 2: And when people ask, she still says like three and

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Speaker 1: I think sobriety is one size or is not one

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Speaker 1: size fits all. It's kind of like whatever keeps you

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Speaker 1: like you don't want to trigger anybody. But for example,

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Speaker 1: like I had a friend whose sponsor relapsed, they could

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Speaker 1: no longer be her sponsor because you can't. You need

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Speaker 1: can't have more time than your sponsor, right, so if

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Speaker 1: she were my sponsor, she couldn't be that anymore. Oh okay,

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Speaker 1: I see, because the whole point is to not fall

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Speaker 2: But back to Rita, you were saying, yeah, your shirt's

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Speaker 2: very dark. Did you ever because I remember when we

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Speaker 2: went over an episode of vander Pump you were like,

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Speaker 2: maybe I'm as understood this, but you were like I

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Speaker 2: was saying I was sober, but I kind of was

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Speaker 2: still drinking. Did you ever say you were sober and

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Speaker 1: No, it was for me. I told I would say

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Speaker 1: I didn't say that I was a sober person because

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Speaker 1: when that happened, I was going to AA meetings but

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Speaker 1: mockery of this entire program, Like these women fight hard

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Speaker 1: I had to deal with all that guilt when I

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Speaker 1: re entered AA to talk about all the things that

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Speaker 1: I was not proud of in my addiction. But Rita

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Speaker 1: on the rocks, like for her to open up about

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Speaker 1: an addiction like that, one that I can't relate to,

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Speaker 1: but I know definitely exists in many people. And I

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Speaker 1: the youngins. It's a huge issue. And my mom always said,

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Speaker 2: It's so true, right, so true?

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Speaker 1: So I never like I remember going with my ex

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Speaker 1: and he would give me chips to go gamble. Gosh out, motherfucker,

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Speaker 2: Once I lose, I'm like two hundred.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: If you beg two.

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Speaker 3: Hundred, my mom would go, why don't we just put

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Speaker 2: Really even on slots. I just did to have fun.

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Speaker 1: Two hundred dollars, Are you crazy? I'm kidding.

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Speaker 3: I got fifty bucks out to go play blackjack with

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Speaker 3: I was like, I don't really need to play that much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can tell. I think a lot of people can't,

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Speaker 2: or they're up, and then they I'm just like okay.

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Speaker 1: I can't do percentages, so I won't even know if

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Speaker 1: I was up twenty five percent. Hold on, let's see

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Speaker 1: how many decimals.

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Speaker 2: On my favorite. By the way, that's not twenty five percent.

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Speaker 2: What fifty is not twenty five percent of two hundred.

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Speaker 1: It's okay. When you're you're on a podcast fifty would.

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Speaker 2: Be, Oh, yes it is, is it going, guys getting this?

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Speaker 1: She went to college. I didn't grab No, But there's

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Speaker 1: so many things that like people don't take into account

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Speaker 1: that you can become addicted to, Like anything at any

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Speaker 1: point in time can be become an extremely unhealthy addiction.

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Speaker 1: Like me though, thinking about well, even if it's gambling,

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Speaker 1: like the amount of alcohol money I'd spent on alcohol.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about candy crush up, little gambler.

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Speaker 1: You no, No, But then can I tell you when

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Speaker 1: I knew that I was exiting my it was a pandemic, right,

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Speaker 1: a pandemic.

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Speaker 2: Handy crush made out so well in the pandemic.

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Speaker 3: Everyone did that, but they didn't mean anybody else, but.

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Speaker 1: I was crushing it. And now when I see that

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Speaker 2: Love you all, Ocean included. Thank you for all of

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Speaker 2: Thank you for being transparent about your journey, and I

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Speaker 2: Wow, this is absolutely beautiful.

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Speaker 1: First, I'm very sorry that we missed yes that message.

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Speaker 2: January twenty sixth, twenty twenty three, but I think it.

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Speaker 3: Was meant to be that we missed it, and we

435
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Speaker 3: were supposed to find it today.

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Speaker 1: You know, Wow, I feel God in the universe work

437
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 1: in very mysterious ways that we don't understand until suddenly

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Speaker 1: it all makes sense. Thirteen months sober, that's absolutely incredible.

439
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Speaker 1: I would say the first thirty days is the most difficult.

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Speaker 1: The next thirty days is going to be really fucking difficult.

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Speaker 1: And they call it a pink cloud. So my most

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Speaker 1: favorite thing, and also what makes me the most terrified,

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Speaker 1: is when I have somebody approach me talking to me

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Speaker 1: about their sobriety and they love it so much, and

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Speaker 1: I love that for them. But what happens is you

446
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,479
Speaker 1: sink into the reality of I'm a sober person and

447
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Speaker 1: I can't This isn't something that I'm ever going to conquer.

448
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Speaker 1: I have to work out every day. And the reason

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Speaker 1: I know about the pink cloud is because when I

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Speaker 1: discovered sobriety and I would walk in to my I

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Speaker 1: call her my angel. She's the one that gave me

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Speaker 1: or presented the Brent Shapiro ash Spirit Award. Yeah, Ashley,

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Speaker 1: we had her on the podcast. Okay, She's the first

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Speaker 1: person I called when I got sober or wanted to

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Speaker 1: get sober. But she I would come in every single

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Speaker 1: Thursday and be like, I just love being sober. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're on the pink cloud. She's like, I want you

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Speaker 1: to remember, I'm thrilled for you and every day is

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Speaker 1: going to be a gift that you stay sober. But

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Speaker 1: the pink cloud you get knocked off of it real

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Speaker 1: quick because life will still happen. It does not solve

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Speaker 1: all your problems. The difference is your life becomes manageable.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, well manageable. I mean, I've been

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Speaker 1: managing shit my whole life, you know, But that really

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Speaker 1: is the difference. I've gone through the hardest times of

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Speaker 1: my life being sober, and it's like, what would this

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Speaker 1: have turned into had I been drinking.

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Speaker 3: Oh no.

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Speaker 1: So the fact that her rock bottom looked very different

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Speaker 1: than mine, It essentially doesn't matter what the rock bottom

471
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Speaker 1: moment is, right, whether it's like not that bad or

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Speaker 1: I know, I've sat in rooms with people who their

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Speaker 1: rock bottoms are like absolutely devastating, life altering, right, But

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Speaker 1: the point is we're in the room, and it does

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Speaker 1: take a while to go around and apologize and make amends,

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Speaker 1: you know, step nine and the people who don't want

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Speaker 1: to forgive you. It's all good. Because you know that

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Speaker 1: you've conquered, not conquered. I shouldn't say that word. You

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00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: haven't conquered the beast, but you've admitted that you are

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Speaker 1: the problem, that you're powerless over alcohol, and you're not

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Speaker 1: who you really are when you're under the influence people

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Speaker 1: who you want to apologize for things that you may

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Speaker 1: have done to them that they don't know about. And

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Speaker 1: they're thriving in life, so why the fuck would you

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Speaker 1: go and make them aware of something you've done. You

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Speaker 1: write the note and you throw it away where you

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Speaker 1: burn it. You know. There's like so many ways of

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Speaker 1: like saying sorry to somebody, and the people that forgive

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Speaker 1: you those are the ones that, like your heart kind

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Speaker 1: of melts for right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I could do that, not even

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Speaker 2: in sobriety.

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Speaker 1: Like that just seems like that's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The book is beneficial to everybody. Yeah, it's just teaching

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Speaker 1: you how to be a kind person. There are moments

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Speaker 1: where you fall off and you're like me, not drinking

498
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Speaker 1: just has to be enough. Me not being a major

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Speaker 1: see you next Tuesday just has to be enough. Right now,

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Speaker 1: I can't deal with the steps I can't apologize to

501
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Speaker 1: this person. I for damn sure, I'm not taking accountability

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Speaker 1: in this situation. She's about to say.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like it just takes you have to take

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Speaker 3: accountability for everything that you felt like you've done wrong.

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Speaker 3: Just in the book sober or not. I think like

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Speaker 3: it would be a very good thing to even look

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Speaker 3: back and be like, Okay, I did them dirty, not

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Speaker 3: even sober or drunk. But I feel like the apology

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Speaker 3: should be there, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they're incredibly difficult steps that you have

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Speaker 1: to overcome in that book.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're just saying, like I love when you

513
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Speaker 2: say me not drinking just has to be enough. Takes

514
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Speaker 2: me back to the more we've talked about on the podcast,

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Speaker 2: the more general, like even dealing with depression and anxiety.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes days are like me, waking up today has to

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Speaker 2: be enough. I have to be like I woke up today, great,

518
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Speaker 2: I fred did it. I'm here on earth for another day.

519
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 2: Like there you go.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think sobriety people who struggle, it allows you

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Speaker 1: to have that mindset, you know, where you can wake

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Speaker 1: up and manage life and your emotions and say today's

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Speaker 1: not the greatest of days. I'm going to take it

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Speaker 1: on the best way that I possibly can. But I'm

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Speaker 1: not at my rock bottom.

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Speaker 3: So it's a good day.

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Speaker 1: Well it's we're going to take it as a win.

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Speaker 1: I opened my eyes and I and I.

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Speaker 3: Tried yep, yeah, and they everyone should take that as

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Speaker 3: a win because I sure as yeah.

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Speaker 1: There are days, man, that's all all that I can do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Up.

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Speaker 2: This is from Jennifer. I have been sober for one

535
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Speaker 2: year and two days. My life was complete chaos while

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Speaker 2: I was drinking. I had destroyed every relationship with my

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Speaker 2: family and friends. I met my fiance two and a

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Speaker 2: half years ago, and he was a heavy drinker as well.

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Speaker 2: We are both amazed that we are still together after

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Speaker 2: everything we've put each other through. We decided together that

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Speaker 2: the only way out, the only way our relationship could survive,

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Speaker 2: would be for both of us to completely stop drinking.

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Speaker 2: The amount of growth we have experienced individually and together

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Speaker 2: this past year would never have been possible if alcohol

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Speaker 2: were still a part of our lives. I have been

546
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Speaker 2: watching vander Pump since season one and loved you from

547
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Speaker 2: the very first second I saw you on season four.

548
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Speaker 2: I also grew up in Salt Lake, but I'm currently

549
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Speaker 2: in Indiana. I started listening to your podcasts after I

550
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Speaker 2: quit drinking because I knew you were sober. It has

551
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Speaker 2: become my favorite podcast. My fiance now watches vander Pump

552
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: with me because he appreciates your honesty about your sobriety journey.

553
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Speaker 1: That's incredible. Yeah, I think I could be with someone

554
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Speaker 1: who was also sobered in the program if we went

555
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Speaker 1: through it together.

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Speaker 2: That is beautiful.

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Speaker 1: But that is beautiful because that is not the norm.

558
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Speaker 1: There's usually always one person who's the enabler of the behavior.

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Speaker 1: Believe in.

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Speaker 3: You say you couldn't be with a sober You say

561
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Speaker 3: you would want to be with a man that still drank.

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Speaker 1: You didn't want to be with this who if they

563
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Speaker 1: did it together, though, I'm saying if we did it together,

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Speaker 1: I think it would be a different it would be

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Speaker 1: a different situation. You know, we we went through our

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Speaker 1: drinking days together and now we both are choosing sobriety

567
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Speaker 1: and we had like this this epiphany and awakening the

568
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Speaker 1: two of us to like do this together. That's not normal.

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Speaker 1: The norm is one person always isn't ready to give

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Speaker 1: it up, and that can it and in you know,

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Speaker 1: a relapse for the person who chooses a healthy lifestyle,

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Speaker 1: or on the rare occasion that the person says like,

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Speaker 1: we're just like you're not healthy for me and my

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Speaker 1: new life choices. So that's a that's an incredible story, and.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, that they're together and thriving, the things they

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Speaker 2: probably discovered about each other during that and then being

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Speaker 2: able to have like.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how she would think thinking about like, oh,

579
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Speaker 3: that's going to be a strong bond right there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and what you guys say about like sober sex

581
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Speaker 2: versus drunks, like stuff like that when you're squirting. That

582
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Speaker 2: is the day. I hope you squirted, Jennifer. I really cute.

583
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Speaker 2: They're so cute.

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Speaker 1: They're way cute.

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Speaker 2: I love like a golfer. Their their chic and they

586
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Speaker 2: have like matching glasses. I love you, mother.

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Speaker 1: They're but let me tell you something. This is him.

588
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Speaker 1: Have you ever really do to Have you ever heard

589
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Speaker 1: anyone say my life really started taking off and I

590
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: started thriving when I started getting super fucked.

591
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: Up literally never never hurt, never rappers, even them even then.

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Speaker 1: It's like Eminem has been so bare over sixteen years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well he wasn't when he was making a shue Yeah,

594
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Speaker 3: and it was.

595
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Speaker 1: Really really dark.

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Speaker 2: The girl who say the National Anthem, who everyone was

597
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Speaker 2: sending us a video being like Jess was this is

598
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: this usual? It was? And she came out a couple

599
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: of days ago and said, I was drunk. I'm humiliated.

600
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: But there's a video of her singing and she starts

601
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: way too high, way too high.

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00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: It happened to all of us. Sure. I also busted

603
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: into song on watch Rabin's I'm Not the National Anthem,

604
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: and I thought I was killing it. I thought I

605
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: was Rihanna. Girl happens. That's what I want to see now,

606
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: you guys on the bus season seven, when I'm making

607
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: everybody like tickle and touch me, and I was, she's

608
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: on Molly. People love to touch when they're on Molly.

609
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: Molly. I've never done Molly or ecstasy nothing. Hell, no,

610
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Speaker 2: are you crazy? It's just alcohol. You were on alcohol.

611
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: I liked the things from the earth, mushrooms, mushure.

612
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: Were you on mushrooms?

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00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: No, it's because I started having the Sunday scaries. I

614
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: had been drinking after not drinking for a chunk of time.

615
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: Season seven when my dad died. Oh yes, that I

616
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: started having alcohol panic. You know when you wake up

617
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: and you may have had like a rough night of drinking,

618
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Speaker 1: and you start having the worst anxiety of your fucking

619
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Speaker 1: life and you just want to crawl out of your

620
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Speaker 1: own skin. Yeah, that was me.

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Speaker 2: And that's why you were having So you were sober,

622
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Speaker 2: you were.

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Speaker 1: Just I was not sober. I had Mexico. When we went,

624
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: I literally say to Shina, Mama hasn't been drunk in

625
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: a while, So I overdo it. And on the bus

626
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: that night, the alcohol had sunk in and I just

627
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: had anxiety about my life and I needed people to, like,

628
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: you know how they say, take a risk, like an

629
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: elastic and flick your wrist. Yes, it was similar to

630
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: me wanting that all over my body so that I

631
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: could focus on that and not what your mind. So yes,

632
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: it was really.

633
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 3: Out of your mind.

634
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there was nothing like I if I could

635
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: have had them all just punched me in the face

636
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: over and over, that probably would have worked best. No,

637
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: it was the worst experience of my life, of my life.

638
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: I hated that entire Yeah. No, sobriety is where it's at, dude.

639
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: Then sometimes I wish I could get like show people

640
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Speaker 1: like a crystal ball of like your life is gonna happen,

641
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: but like, imagine life happening and it not taking you out. Yeah,

642
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: and you're like, you know what, I'm a little bummed today,

643
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: but like fuck that, Tomorrow's a new day, Like tomorrow

644
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: could also be ship But guess what, we know that

645
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: it's it's not going to be that way forever. Yes,

646
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: nothing is forever.

647
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: Every day can't be your worst day because even if

648
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: your days continue to get worse, your day before that

649
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: was better.

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00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what, this is how I want

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Speaker 1: you all to remember things. If you're down in the dumps,

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Speaker 1: just embrace it because there's nowhere to go but up.

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Speaker 1: And when you're at the peak of the mountaintop, just

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Speaker 1: enjoy the fuck out of it because you will roll

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Speaker 1: down soon. But don't worry because once you get to

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Speaker 1: the bottom, it's get tiking again.

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Speaker 2: There you go. That's life, baby, life, That is life life.

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Speaker 2: That showbiz, baby.

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Speaker 1: That's showbiz. That's sobriety for you. Yeah, you guys, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you writing in to to give them la pod

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Speaker 1: Instagram page. By the way, can I tell you how

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Speaker 1: much I love that we'll give them La La Pod

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Speaker 1: because I call my crew the pod that you're not cute,

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Speaker 1: that is cute. I just realized I appreciate all of

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Speaker 1: your sober stories. You guys are awesome. I know that

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Speaker 1: those are not easy to tell, but you're in the

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Speaker 1: same boat as me and I kind of.

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Speaker 2: Fun and there were so many so if you ever

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Speaker 2: want to do it again like that was really great

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Speaker 2: for everyone to write in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll do it again. I love you guys,

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Speaker 1: thank you for listening, and I will catch you on

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Speaker 1: Wednesday and for the bonus episode next Monda