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Speaker 1: R and B Money.

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Speaker 2: We are.

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Speaker 3: Take about that.

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Speaker 1: We are the authorities on all this R and B.

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank. Yeah, I feel

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Speaker 3: like that. This is the Army Money podcast.

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Speaker 1: On all things R and B. You know, soothing, soothing.

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Speaker 3: You know, as of recently, you know, a lot of

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Speaker 3: a lot of artists, a lot of creatives have adopted

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Speaker 3: a vibe you know now they now, they now they.

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Speaker 1: Have a vibe. Yeah. Some of us are just the vibes,

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Speaker 1: you know. Some of us are. Some of us have.

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Speaker 3: Been the the vibe for quite some time. Very angelic

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Speaker 3: on so many novels, all level visually, artistically, the gifts

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean they they span countries and she

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Speaker 3: is not from this place.

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Speaker 1: The world cred the world, craigh.

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Speaker 3: Normally I'm loud during this part of you know, j

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Speaker 3: just reminded me that this is this is a five episode,

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Speaker 3: so we're gonna stay right in here. Makes noise for.

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Speaker 4: Gap whisper intro.

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Speaker 1: Yeah we got it. Set the moon.

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Speaker 4: Candles, but still the energy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because they know what it is when they

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Speaker 3: see you do this camera, that's your camera. Give me quappoly,

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Speaker 3: what does where does Quoppoly come from.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's my grandmother's maiden name, wow, and it's really.

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Speaker 1: Pronounced say it again.

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Speaker 5: You did excellent, But I would say since I was

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Speaker 5: really little, it's been mispronounced in like a thousand different ways.

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Speaker 5: It's a sound African names, So gap is how I've

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Speaker 5: been saying it since, you know, association.

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Speaker 1: Because what she was saying is that the money come

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Speaker 1: along with the essence. You know what I'm saying, y'all

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Speaker 1: don't really.

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Speaker 5: Know, y'all don't I'm yes, yes, and it means go forward, and.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: It took me a minute to grow into it. And

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Speaker 5: I feel like that's kind of how my music has been.

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Speaker 5: It's never really fit in exact like genres, just like

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Speaker 5: growing into what I am and you know, hoping that

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Speaker 5: people get it.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 3: People have had to play ketch up on what you

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Speaker 3: were doing because for me, my first time hearing you

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Speaker 3: the only person that I could even talk about in

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Speaker 3: to with shade.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well I love hearing that, you know, and.

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Speaker 3: You know what that those two energy like that's it

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Speaker 3: was it. Now everybody's you know, now everybody's picking picking

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Speaker 3: the fruit of the vibe Tree, which is great. You

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like we we we want that,

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Speaker 3: we wanted to grow and become this thing, you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I just I remember you.

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Speaker 2: Being yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: I feel like when I started, I was like I

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Speaker 5: was really nervous about the industry because I was like,

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Speaker 5: it's not straight up R and B. It's not st

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Speaker 5: I don't even know if soul, like neo soul was

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Speaker 5: like just about to be a category when I was recording.

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Speaker 5: By the time I put out music, neo soul was

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Speaker 4: But it's like I loved jazz and blues and everything in.

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Speaker 5: Between, and I was like, I'm just gonna write these

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Speaker 5: songs and I'm gonna start performing and.

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Speaker 4: We'll figure it out.

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Speaker 5: You love the music, yeah, And I loved hip hop,

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Speaker 2: And it's a certain thing of obviously being from the home,

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Speaker 2: from being from the Bay Area and just that melting

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Speaker 2: pot of music for sure, of so many things like

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Speaker 2: you said that, there's there's jazz, there's hip hop, there's church,

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Speaker 2: there's you know what I mean, there's Tony Tony Tony,

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Speaker 1: What I mean they created.

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Speaker 2: It's just when you start going and and all of

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Speaker 2: those artists that you just named and groups are all different.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing the same.

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Speaker 2: So imagine you know, you grow up in that and

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Speaker 2: like you said, South South African parent, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, Like you have a whole nother mindset of

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Speaker 2: Like we just try music.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's such like an indie vibe, and like because.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna put it out, it's gonna come out either

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Speaker 5: And that's how it started, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: Like pressing up a thousand CDs and selling them as

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Speaker 5: until it was like we don't just want to we

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Speaker 5: buy a box of CDs. Oh more stores want them.

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Speaker 5: We need real distribution, you know.

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Speaker 2: So you guys were going, you and your team skyblaze, right,

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Speaker 2: you guys were going from store to store.

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Speaker 4: Yea, literally it was like a meeba.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember Balanced was Balance working at Rescue.

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Speaker 4: Yes he was.

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Speaker 3: He was.

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Speaker 1: So he was an artist, super talented guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's now but now he's like a scriptwriter

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Speaker 2: I want to say. I want to say he is

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Speaker 2: one of the writers on like blind Spotting or something. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's doing his ship. But he used to actually be

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Speaker 2: like the purchaser at resputen. But he was an artist

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Speaker 2: and he was like fully tapped into everything that.

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Speaker 4: To you life show.

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Speaker 2: You got to hit Balance some you know, some hundred

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Speaker 2: So that was that was the cool thing about being

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Speaker 2: were there were places for you to be independent, for sure,

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Speaker 2: but I didn't know y'all were for me. I always

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Speaker 2: thought y'all had some form of distribution, So initially y'all didn't.

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Speaker 5: It took it took a minute, and I think, you know,

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Speaker 5: wanted to have quality, like no one needed to know

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Speaker 5: how small it was starting, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: But the idea was like if we build it, and

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Speaker 5: won't be shelved or I won't have to prove myself.

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Speaker 5: It won't be about the marketing. It'll be like people

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Speaker 5: it could be more empowering, you know. And there's people

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Speaker 5: like from Digital Underground we knew Shock G and DJ

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Speaker 5: did it, How Lettucy did it, How Martin Luther did it, hieroglyphics,

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Speaker 5: how they did it? And they we got distribution through

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Speaker 5: them initially, Yeah, yeah, through Red Yeah, because I was

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Speaker 1: I remember meeting with.

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Speaker 2: A guy and and.

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Speaker 1: You. He had your CD on his desk.

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Speaker 2: At this point, I had never heard of you yet,

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Speaker 2: And I was kind of back and forth between LA

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Speaker 2: just kind of you know, I was taking meetings, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and he was like, yeah, you know this this new

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Speaker 2: girl Scoppoly and I'm like he was talking about kind

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Speaker 2: of you know, the numbers that you were doing, you

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Speaker 2: know how you were just he was like, you gotta

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Speaker 2: go see your live and you gotta see her perform.

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Speaker 2: And I don't remember the first place I saw you before,

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Speaker 2: but I was just like, oh, this is different, Like

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Speaker 2: this is different. And with me being a barrier kidd

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this this, this feels like so

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Speaker 2: it's like Berkeley, Berkeley. It felt like Berkeley, so Berkeley

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Speaker 2: for us about free it's it's it's the free love.

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Speaker 2: It's the you know what I mean, everybody everybody's flower children,

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Speaker 2: the flower Children.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it felt like.

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Speaker 2: And if it made you smile, like when I heard

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Speaker 2: your music, that's how it made me feel.

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Speaker 1: And you know you're from this same era too.

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Speaker 2: We come from mob music, very street, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, the old forty days.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the the you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like not just forty forty

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Speaker 2: in the clique of those people don't know about click

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Speaker 2: is mob music, you know what I mean. So growing

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Speaker 2: Big Figure all these things, and then when I heard

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Speaker 2: smile mm, Like this feels really good. And that's and

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Speaker 2: that's what I've always attached personally to you and your music.

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Speaker 2: Whenever I see you, I'm always like.

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Speaker 5: Everything great, cause it's like for me, music that I

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Speaker 5: relate to, like, I want the basslines and the drums

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Speaker 5: I mean down the street.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you want it to.

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Speaker 5: But what I want to say and the energy I

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Speaker 5: want to put out is I want a positive impact

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Speaker 5: stuff I'm not going to say in my music, but

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Speaker 5: I want the feeling to be a combination.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: And I feel like all those influences are in me.

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Speaker 5: But I'm happy that it that it felt happy inside.

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Speaker 5: And I grew up I was born in Oakland, but

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Speaker 5: I grew up in Berkeley and Oakland.

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Speaker 1: So O, wow, that's what it felt like to.

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Speaker 2: Slice of blindise Pizza girl out there.

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Speaker 1: Better know where you're from here? So when did okay?

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Speaker 1: When did you know that you were? Was?

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Speaker 3: Was Wapa always going to be your stage name? And

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Speaker 3: and when did you know that okay?

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Speaker 1: Was she like little Rashita at first?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: What was going on?

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Speaker 1: What was the younger.

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Speaker 1: What was it was?

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Speaker 4: I think when I was.

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Speaker 5: I always like from a really young age, I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: say like from eight years old, I felt like I

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Speaker 5: wanted to be on the stage.

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Speaker 4: And I would see like my.

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Speaker 5: Parents' friends, like some of them were South African artists.

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Speaker 5: I would watch my parents would bring us to live shows,

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Speaker 5: Like I don't know if we're supposed to be here,

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Speaker 5: I always felt like that's something I want to do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you just took you took the steps to where

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Speaker 1: Yeah, until it can take care of you.

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Speaker 5: No, that's real, that's real, and I think sometimes people

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Speaker 5: don't understand that concept. Yeah, it's like you can like

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Speaker 2: Like you can make sure for yourself, you.

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Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying, do your art until it takes

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Speaker 2: for that of, you know, taking care of yourself because

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Speaker 2: of you. Now it's more advantageous for them and everything

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Speaker 1: It not even might not be for free free.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it seems like it is, I think to

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Speaker 2: And thank god because they're promoting it that way.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and thank god I was able to work like that.

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Speaker 5: My family was like, let's do this, you know what

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Speaker 4: Because guy, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Shout out to Nmani and THEO. But I think it

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Speaker 1: Know for sure?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Multiple deals are multiple. I thought I

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Speaker 1: Take a deal. Can you kind of give us because

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Speaker 2: Has been based around your independence as well, Like you've

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Speaker 2: that and just spending your own money, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, building our own studio, building it, you

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Speaker 5: Like I don't. I don't need that pressure. And I

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Speaker 4: I don't you know.

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Speaker 5: I I like feeling like my own boss. So it's

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Speaker 1: Hair makeup.

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Speaker 4: Look, I'm still doing my I'm not doing my own hair.

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Speaker 4: I'm still doing my own makeup except for like look

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Speaker 4: for you know, photo.

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Speaker 5: Shoots and certain things. Thank god, you know, I know

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Speaker 5: all these great people that can work with me. But

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Speaker 5: aware of like there's a price to all of these things,

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Speaker 2: Us when that record first hits. When I say that

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Speaker 2: record closer, the song that you close your eyes to

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Speaker 1: To this day, I've been in there.

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Speaker 2: I remember after me and got met and got cool,

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Speaker 1: And what was that?

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how that really makes it like.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna look up just when you do this, you

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Speaker 3: do you do wander off until the whole building.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was like, oh, this is amazing. Am

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Speaker 1: I high? Yeah? I don't do drugs, drugs. I'm not high.

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Speaker 2: I feel high, amazing feeling, amazing feelings. So please tell

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Speaker 1: What was the processing cracking?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because are y'all literally taking this record store

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what.

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Speaker 5: I was working with AMP Live from zion I and

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Speaker 4: To my e P. It was the Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: Pressure. I didn't know.

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Speaker 4: It's like, it's not the pressure of a song.

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Speaker 1: I got smoke I got a smokey one.

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Speaker 2: Here wait to hear your.

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Speaker 5: Inter It was like, I was pretty much done with

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Speaker 4: This is like no distribution.

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Speaker 5: This is just like these are the songs that represent

447
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 5: me and I'm gonna put them out into the world.

448
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 5: And I have been working with AMP Live with for

449
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 5: a Zion Eye project and he was like, I think

450
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 5: you're gonna like this track, like.

451
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 4: This is a cool vibe.

452
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 5: And as soon as I heard it, I just kind

453
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 5: of heard a little something like it's one of the

454
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 5: only songs that it just felt like it was in the.

455
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 4: Air, and I was like, I should go.

456
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 5: To his studio and just put down a basic idea

457
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 5: and I can come back and like flush it out

458
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 5: because I'm like the Queen of overthinking things, you know

459
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 5: what I mean. Yes, And so it's one of the

460
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 5: few songs that I've ever done that I just kind

461
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 5: of was like, just record it, like without me thinking

462
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 5: it too much. It was just kind of like this

463
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 5: higher like I know sometimes I feel like this, but

464
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 5: it's just kind of this in between space of like

465
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 5: I know I'm on my way, I'm not there yet.

466
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 5: This is humbling, this is frustrating, it's not as good

467
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 5: as I wanted to be, like, but I know that

468
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 5: something is happening, and it just kind of captured that

469
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,479
Speaker 5: moment and it was just kind of a freestyle and

470
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 5: I just did it a couple of times and and

471
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,479
Speaker 5: it's like the least takes I've ever done. And I'll

472
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 5: do takes on takes on takes, you know, and they're like, okay, stop,

473
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 5: we're gonna edit this now. Yeah yeah, no, no, no, no, no,

474
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 5: You're good, and I'm like, just one more more, just

475
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 5: one more.

476
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 4: And so.

477
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 5: It was not that because it was just a feeling.

478
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 5: And then we were like, we'll just start the project

479
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 5: out this way because it's a vibe. And then it

480
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,120
Speaker 5: was on the b side of childhood Drama was like

481
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 5: the first single that we gave to came on.

482
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: It was like, my emotion is childhood children trying to

483
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 2: get no record?

484
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: Youre trying to get no radio play.

485
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 4: I don't know what I was thinking.

486
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 5: I don't know what, but it was over that Dolly

487
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 5: my Baby right and I got you know, we were

488
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 5: into like dance hall and all that, and so closer

489
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 5: was on the other side, just like to get a

490
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 5: taste of the.

491
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 4: Album and that song. I don't know.

492
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 5: People were just gravitating towards it more. And when we

493
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 5: were giving people.

494
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 4: The project, they were just like this, like I.

495
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 5: Really feel that, And then it ended up getting played

496
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 5: on the radio.

497
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 2: Was there a DJ that identified the record early?

498
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 5: I would say my emotion, my emotion was on it

499
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 5: Earth that was like a thousand maybe you know what

500
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 5: I mean, And it ended up getting on radio like

501
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 5: different cities, different years. Like talk about a slow burn

502
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 5: and trust the process. That's like literally like two thousand.

503
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,239
Speaker 2: It's not like you had a radio run. It's not

504
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 2: like you had a you know, team.

505
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 5: Or not at that point, not at that point. And

506
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 5: it would be like they do like the seven.

507
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: And seven between two thousand and two thousand and four.

508
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 5: I'm not playing And because I then did a deal

509
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 5: with Sony or sky Blaze did a deal with Sony,

510
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 5: and so then we put it. They wanted to put

511
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 5: the song on the album again, and I was like.

512
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 4: Oh, that song is old, blah blah blah.

513
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: But I.

514
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 5: I just was like, Okay, if this is like the

515
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 5: only thing that I'm leaning on, just put it on there.

516
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 5: And thank God, because some people would never hear my

517
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 5: first album and you know, the second album. Yeah, and

518
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 5: and so some people are like, I've been rocking with

519
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 5: you since the beginning two thousand and five when you

520
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 5: first put out that song.

521
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 4: I'm like, but I'll take it, and I love it

522
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 4: and I appreciate it.

523
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 5: And then people have like, you know, remixed it, and

524
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 5: so people come to it however they do. But it

525
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 5: really was like, I don't know a phenomenon that I

526
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 5: didn't imagine, and it's still going.

527
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: It's like that record is still new to certain people,

528
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: and it's one of those records. It's just it doesn't

529
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: get old.

530
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 3: It doesn't get old. It's like the mc introsion.

531
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: To representation of when someone wants to play a Bay

532
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: Area R and B. They you're the first choice. That

533
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: is the first choice for the Bay Area R and

534
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 2: B record, You're going to play closer.

535
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 3: I know even associated that with like I mean now

536
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: that we're having this conversation and feeling the vibes from it, Yeah,

537
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 3: you know from somebody who was in d see and.

538
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, got Hit was a big supporter. Oh absolutely, no,

539
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: You're you're tailor made. Se tailor made.

540
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 4: And they supported so much live music, Like I feel like.

541
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 3: We had a lot of like live like Blues Alley

542
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: and those type of things. People could come and those

543
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: those three hundred three hundred people and like it was

544
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 3: like you could be Birchres.

545
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: They foot this fire to what I ain't gonna the

546
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: food is fire where the birch Mire at. I used

547
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: to have a time at the Birchmere. Man, you took

548
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: me back. Yeah, yeah that's a cool spot.

549
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 4: Fun and live.

550
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 5: And I always worked with live musicians since the beginning, and.

551
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 2: Really you always had a band from the from the.

552
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 5: From the well start, in the very very start, Like

553
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 5: before my album came out, it would just be like

554
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 5: me and DJs and I'm just performing over instrumentals, you

555
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,959
Speaker 5: know what I mean. I do like my own version

556
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 5: over you know, Noriega.

557
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: Over very hip hop records.

558
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 5: Yes, maybe dance hall, but mostly hip hop records, and

559
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 5: so it could be like it was just fit in

560
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 5: the party, like you know how you want to get

561
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 5: on right now?

562
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: Yup.

563
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 5: And then when I started writing music, it was super lot.

564
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,239
Speaker 5: Some of it was like straight up live and some

565
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 5: of it was over tracks. But I wanted to have

566
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 5: you know, probably from going to Berkeley in Boston, I

567
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 5: really wanted to have live musicians. And thankfully, like I

568
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 5: got to work with some really dope people. And I

569
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 5: also was someone that like, even though I love dancing,

570
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 5: I don't know, my music isn't really like the dance

571
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 5: you know, like something you would dance to necessarily, So

572
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 5: I was like that part of the show, you know

573
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 5: what I mean. And I didn't have a fan and

574
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 5: all of that. So it's kind of like I need

575
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 5: something dynamic. So yeah, and then sometimes it'll be like

576
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,959
Speaker 5: DJ and a live musician or whatever.

577
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: But I.

578
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 4: Can dance for you know, for.

579
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: Fun, because you know he wants it, because I can.

580
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: Dance, because I can dance, and you know, we should

581
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: be able to dance.

582
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 4: I feel like, yeah, for sure, I want to.

583
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: Do if you want to do some fivey dance, it's closer,

584
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: I see.

585
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 5: But it's like the thing is like all my stuff,

586
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 5: what I gravitate to sing to, It's like it's gonna.

587
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 4: Be slow, it's gonna be back.

588
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 5: It's not gonna be the same stuff that I'm like

589
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 5: driving around dancing.

590
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

591
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: I'm s I would respect it.

592
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 4: I wouldn't mind if I broke into a little something.

593
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't.

594
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: He wouldn't be mad his damn dance on CD I

595
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: do that ship was coming off of that as an

596
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: indie artist, when closer breaks for you, what is the

597
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: process of now these labels coming. Did y'all have a

598
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: full like bidding war going or were you guys just

599
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: on some you know what, we're not taking none of

600
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: these meetings. We're meetings.

601
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 5: Yes, what they're saying, I'm taking all the meetings because

602
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 5: it's like the more you take, the better the option

603
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 5: of Like, well this person is offering this, so what

604
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 5: are you offering? Yep, I'll come to New York and

605
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 5: have a meeting.

606
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: Yep.

607
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 5: L A like I was down to meet with everybody

608
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 5: because I just wanted the best option and I wanted

609
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 5: to feel at home. I wanted to feel like I

610
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 5: wouldn't have to compromise. I wanted to feel like, I

611
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 5: don't know, like they believe in me and they trust

612
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 5: what I'm doing. And really it's just like faith and luck.

613
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 2: You know what made you decide on going to Sony?

614
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: What's the bag or was.

615
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 5: It the I don't I'm gonna be honest with you,

616
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 5: I don't know exactly. Like the people that I was

617
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 5: meeting with were nice. What was it over some of

618
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 5: the other labels. I'm not exactly sure, to be honest,

619
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 5: I think they were still gonna like, let us do

620
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 5: our own thing.

621
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 2: And that's a that's a big part. When somebody makes

622
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 2: that investment in you, you lose freedom. You do lose freedom, Yeah,

623
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 2: because now you playing with somebody else money. Yeah yeah,

624
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: so I get that. And were you guys able to

625
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: have that freedom once the project came out?

626
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah yeah, because like I said, we were like, Okay,

627
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,479
Speaker 5: let's get all this equipment, you know what I mean,

628
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 5: like for our studio and build headquarters and like and

629
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 5: continue to.

630
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 4: Build it out. And I had an A and R

631
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 4: that I feel like was so open.

632
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 5: He wasn't controlling and I was willing to put I

633
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 5: had the drive, you know what I mean. So it

634
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 5: wasn't like someone had to be like, come on, you

635
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 5: know what I mean, get in there. So it was

636
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 5: just like we're just gonna keep doing things as we

637
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 5: have been, you know, but like with some more support.

638
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: So that process for you, if you could go back

639
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: on it, would you go and do a major deal again?

640
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: Or like looking at it because you know, like we've

641
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: talked about it, you've been an independent artist, You've done

642
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: a major deal. When you look at the you know,

643
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: the landscape and if there's a you know, a young

644
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: artist watching this and how you've gone about it, what

645
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 2: were the positives and the negatives in that space?

646
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 5: I don't feel like looking back, I don't have much regret.

647
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 5: I think that I would still do it for the

648
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 5: most part the same because there was more exposure, you know,

649
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 5: and just like a way bigger team, you know, working

650
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 5: with a major. It wasn't a trading It was kind

651
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 5: of a partnership. So it was different for me than

652
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 5: maybe it would be for an artist. Singly, going in.

653
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: Partnership was based on you already have having six success Yeah,

654
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 3: and there.

655
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 4: Was still sky Blaze. So there was still like.

656
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 5: A unit around me that was helping regardless you know,

657
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 5: of Sony. But of course we didn't have the money

658
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 5: that Sony had, you know, like there was some radio

659
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 5: support and some tour support and and all of those

660
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 5: things that just seemed natural that when I went back

661
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 5: to being independent, I was.

662
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,959
Speaker 4: Like, Okay, you know what I mean, it can.

663
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 5: Be it can be humbling sometimes, you know, not having

664
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 5: all of those extra things, you know, and that those extras. Man,

665
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 5: I'm saying because it's just like things just happen, and

666
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 5: it's just like, oh, this is just how it is.

667
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 5: Like when your song starts getting played more, you just

668
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 5: have all these things, you know.

669
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: You think it's just the record.

670
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's like you know what I mean, like

671
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 5: people are opening those doors, you know. So I recognize

672
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 5: all of that. So I think I wouldn't do that different.

673
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 5: I think if anything like in my career that I

674
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 5: regret is like not collaborating more like that kind of

675
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 5: stuff used to just make me nervous.

676
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 4: And yeah, a.

677
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: Feature she was just nervous. Guys, she didn't.

678
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 4: I think it probably comes off like.

679
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 5: I don't know how it comes off, but I know that, like,

680
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 5: I've gotten some amazing tracks from people that I was

681
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 5: fans of, like big producers that I was fans of,

682
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 5: But I just it was hard to rise to the

683
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 5: occasion sometimes, you know, or different artists that I could

684
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 5: have worked with that I.

685
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 4: Was just like, I just don't feel like I have

686
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 4: the right thing for.

687
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 1: This Victoria's Secret commercial.

688
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I forgot about that because I love

689
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 5: Victoria Secret and that was like one of the that

690
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 5: was like one of the goals. Yeah, play made it

691
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 5: into that. Wow, this song I did that, I felt

692
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 5: like that was perfect.

693
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 4: I hope that happens again.

694
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: Video. You were in the video. I was there. What

695
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: you mean talk about it? Did you edit you out?

696
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 2: What is that?

697
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: When this is going even way all day? Did? Wait?

698
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: That was a nice lobry? Wait day. I didn't bring

699
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: it up. I didn't bring it out. I was at

700
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: the video shoot. It was there there. You know it is.

701
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: I probably said, jake up a picture of me at

702
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: the video. In the video, you didn't make the in

703
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 2: the video.

704
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 4: Wow, this is like selective memory.

705
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: It happened.

706
00:39:54,120 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 3: If you went to the editing bank man, just just

707
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: slide over. Just that's the shot we need. That's the

708
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 3: shot we need right.

709
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 4: To see, like what if that was?

710
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 5: What if you had a grudge on me? Ever took

711
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 5: it in a certain kind of way.

712
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 3: And wait until everybody podcast to bring it up. I've

713
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 3: been wanting to talk to you, you know about some

714
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 3: ship that went down.

715
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: Listen, that is great?

716
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 4: What was that about?

717
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: No?

718
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: No, no, listen.

719
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 2: And it wasn't like I was the interest in the

720
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: video you're going to make?

721
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 1: It came, making came.

722
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 4: And then the direct captain and your.

723
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, made me a full video.

724
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 4: Full video hotline confusing. The director was like to distraction.

725
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: We can't have all of this because that niggabout here.

726
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: I don't remember who the director was. Now I know

727
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: what they want me in her video? It's her video. Okay,

728
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: what is what is right now?

729
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 5: What is right now? Well, I'm finally about to put

730
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 5: out a new project. And thank you. I didn't realize every.

731
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 2: Five years, what's maybe maybe it's not been on purpose?

732
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 4: I think I don't know.

733
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 5: I like to marinate. I want to have something to

734
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 5: write about. I want to have something to say a

735
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 5: little bit. I want to be inspired.

736
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: She makes us way. Just let them wait, let them wait.

737
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 5: And it's gonna be a lot of feeling right it

738
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 5: comes up, but I do so sometimes wish I worked faster.

739
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 4: It's a goal, but I don't know.

740
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: You're here, So I'm here.

741
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 3: Apparently what you're doing and the way you're doing it.

742
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 4: It's working in some kind of way.

743
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,959
Speaker 3: So I had a dream about this too, you did.

744
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 3: I don't call it daja who, I call it confirmation.

745
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, this has happened. It's happening. Okay, Yeah, I

746
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: told you how to dream about it. And I.

747
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 5: Like that when that happens, because it feels like you're

748
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 5: in the right place. So I started writing these songs

749
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 5: like during the pandemic because I had nothing but time

750
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 5: on my hands and sitting still in no distraction. And

751
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 5: it didn't happen right away, but after like a couple

752
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 5: of months, it was like, oh.

753
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: I get it.

754
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 4: It's going to be a while.

755
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 5: I don't have that many zoom meetings, so I should

756
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 5: be doing something and you know, like recording on my own,

757
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 5: like reused, like relearning how to use pro.

758
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 4: Tools and logic.

759
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: That's how it was.

760
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 4: To excuse me, I'm stuck.

761
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: I can't do it.

762
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: Come on, man, you gotta he said, But but bro

763
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 3: the COVID I said, Man, come on over here. Man,

764
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: I'll stay by the microphone. You stay by, we'll be fine.

765
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 3: At some point, Ruby just said, Bro, I can't do it.

766
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't do it. You see what's going on.

767
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 3: I'm not coming over.

768
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 4: You probably have parties over there too.

769
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: No, I wasn't. No, it's just me.

770
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 3: It'll be Ruben after we did the second EP, said

771
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 3: I'm done, Tank, I'm done with this.

772
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: I'll be back when it's safe.

773
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 3: I'm going back to the mountain. I'm going back to

774
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: the mountains. I'll be back when it's safe.

775
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 4: He's showing up. You did two projects. Yeah, yeah, it

776
00:43:58,840 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 4: was just it.

777
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: Was just you know, vocal. It was super easy.

778
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 4: Wow, how I do?

779
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: Is that where you go?

780
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 4: Okay?

781
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 5: So it took me a little longer, you know, but

782
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 5: it let me just like really have my guard down

783
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 5: and just really think about what I want to say

784
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 5: and just really be in the moment and work with

785
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 5: different musicians to like build songs up. I would sit

786
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 5: with Errol Cooney, who I've been working with guitar player

787
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 5: for years, and Bedrock would send me tracks and Mike's

788
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 5: Tiger and all these people, and it got to be

789
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 5: a slow, unrushed process that I was that I could

790
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 5: feel like, Okay, I'm done with this. I'm at peace.

791
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 5: I feel like I got to say everything I want

792
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 5: to say. Please, I love that. Please send me some stuff. Okay,

793
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 5: how about the melodies too?

794
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 2: So are you almost done with the project now?

795
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm done with this project. Colors color because it

796
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 5: because I just want to get more into the sensory world.

797
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 5: I'm like one of those synesthigic people. I don't know

798
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 5: if you guys heard it, you know where Yeah.

799
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that word is.

800
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 5: It's like where you're senses. I didn't know that was

801
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 5: a name for it.

802
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: It's like you know, your sound.

803
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 4: Bathing, I know what's going on.

804
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 5: You can make anything sound good. It's like we're your

805
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 5: senses mixed together. So when you hear music, you see

806
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 5: it in a certain way, and it's like certain colors

807
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 5: and certain and so I just want to express that

808
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 5: more with this album.

809
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: So is it like color is a colore?

810
00:45:54,760 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 2: So you know, it's just colors.

811
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: Use your talents, man, my talents.

812
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 4: Man.

813
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: Ston't want to.

814
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 3: Just be all chest one, you know, you fee. You've

815
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 3: been doing this music thing for quite some time. I'm

816
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 3: sure there are people who've been inspired and their gifts

817
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 3: have You're magnificent your own things. So from there, I

818
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 3: think you can probably give.

819
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 2: Us a.

820
00:46:55,400 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: Top five, your top five, top five, your top five.

821
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 6: Ray singers, A Rangy Songs, Crawdle Lace, top crawmle l

822
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 6: paulsy Don.

823
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: Yes, Rumbling h.

824
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 6: Yes, your top.

825
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: Clapping Leise top Fi.

826
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: Wow, wow, yeah wow here a week did you clap

827
00:47:58,480 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: for yourself a little bit?

828
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 3: A little bit, a little bit there was a void needed.

829
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 3: One more hand.

830
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 5: Out?

831
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: Your top five R and B singers. Mhm, I can't

832
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: wait to hear this.

833
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 4: Okay, my genres are going to be at New York.

834
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: That's what I expect. That's what I expect.

835
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 5: But there's always R and B in it, Okay, okay, sure.

836
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 5: So I would say Stevie Wonder, I would say Prince.

837
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 5: I would say, I'm gonna put DiAngelo in there.

838
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you?

839
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm going to put.

840
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 4: Anita Baker and baby Face in there.

841
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: Come on, that sound like a tour. That sound like

842
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: a tour, don't I don't see it. I'm standing the crowd.

843
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: I ain't going back, going back there.

844
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 2: That's a great top five. That is an amazing top five.

845
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 4: I mean there was really so much more.

846
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, right, okay, right now, that's the five top

847
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 3: five R and B songs.

848
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 5: I would say, Adore Prince, join inside my tears, Stevie,

849
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 5: wonder you're going there? I know I like the I

850
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 5: like the sad stuff, but I'm like, what would I

851
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 5: never want to fast forward through? I would say angel

852
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:54,479
Speaker 5: Anita Baker. I would say, right, so beautiful every time,

853
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 5: let it burn. Jasmine Sullivan, M one more again, D'Angelo

854
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 5: hm hmm.

855
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: One more again. That was a di'angelo fanatic.

856
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're making an R and B voltron Okay, super artists.

857
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 3: You got to get the vocals from somebody, the performance

858
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 3: style from somebody, the styling from somebody, and the passion

859
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 3: of the artists, the heart of it.

860
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 1: Who are you getting the vocal from? Wait?

861
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 4: Where you say styling.

862
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: It the drip we get into it. There we go.

863
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: Who are getting a vocal from to build your perfect artist?

864
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 5: That one vocal maybe Jasmine Sullivan. I think her voice

865
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 5: is so beautiful, she.

866
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 3: Get on under her no flaws in her voice. Yeah,

867
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 3: nothing performance style.

868
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 5: You can get that from performance style?

869
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: How do I interpret that on stage? How they you

870
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: know what they do on stage?

871
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 4: I'll say, Rihanna, mm.

872
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 1: Hmmm, styling the drip of the artists.

873
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 4: Oh see, maybe I.

874
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: What do you think?

875
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 5: Okay, I want to put her there?

876
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: You will put her in the styling space.

877
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 5: The performance that I'm gonna have to come back to

878
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 5: that one, I would say.

879
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 4: Oh, because I don't want to.

880
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 5: Can I come back to the performance one?

881
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: Okay? So in the drip you want to go Rihanna? Nice? Okay, Well,

882
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: now let's go back to the performer.

883
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 4: No, I want to go to the other.

884
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: She's pointing at my finger. I'm trying to That's where

885
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: I want to. That's where That's where I want to be.

886
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 4: I'm trying to keep up.

887
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: You're great.

888
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 3: The heart of the artists, the passion of the artists, Prince,

889
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 3: I can argue that.

890
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, staring, but see maybe his performance probably.

891
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 3: Okay, So which one. Let's go back to the performer

892
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 3: mm hmmm.

893
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 4: No I would put him.

894
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 5: I would say, for the heart, like the passion, I

895
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 5: would put shot in there in one of those performance.

896
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 5: But see, I like the passion of Prince's performance, but

897
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 5: I like some of her delivery, so it's.

898
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 3: Like a Prince performer with Prince passion or Prince.

899
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 2: Rihanna's close with Rihanna's close. SU's voice, I'm rolling, I'm okay,

900
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: what else.

901
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: You got over here?

902
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 2: Segment before we let you a body dance too fast

903
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 2: because you might you know, don't you might get nervous.

904
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: I don't want you to get nervous. I ain't saying

905
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: no names. I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying

906
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: no names. I ain't saying no names. Who you was? Who?

907
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: Don't say she? I ain't saying no names.

908
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 5: I want to do a TV show and YouTube.

909
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 1: Definitely, he's definitely man. He's definitely man. So very important

910
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: part of the show. Segment.

911
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 2: Yes, it's called I ain't saying no Oh yeah, you

912
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 2: know you might need another wat because that okay, you

913
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: probably running water?

914
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

915
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: Because this this segment is about the travels, the journey

916
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: of Cooppola and some ship you might have seen, some

917
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 2: ship you might have experienced. You tell us a story

918
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 2: funny or fucked up? Are funny and fucked up? The

919
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 2: only rule is you can't say no.

920
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 5: Names, Okay, will you guys tell me yours later?

921
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: It is like if I show you guys my diary,

922
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: I can't be by myself. I got some funny ass

923
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: stories stories.

924
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 4: I think I got one.

925
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: Okay, So right now.

926
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 2: We are going into Gowopola all the way from the bab.

927
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names.

928
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 4: There was.

929
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 5: I would say, this is like a early on Maybe

930
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 5: this is like early early two thousands and I was

931
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 5: probably just starting a tour and I got invited to

932
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 5: do a show in Selma, Alabama for Bloody Sunday.

933
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 4: It was like a.

934
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 5: They redo the march across the bridge right like community festival,

935
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 5: and it was probably you know, balling on a budget.

936
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 4: We probably had like a red eye.

937
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 5: Had to get ready like at the spot because it

938
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 5: was like an early show and all of this stuff,

939
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 5: and I just remember getting ready. I remember it was

940
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 5: hella hot and it was like a good sized crowd

941
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 5: out there, you know, but people work hot, and we

942
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 5: might have been running, like we weren't running behind schedule,

943
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 5: but the thing was running a little bit behind schedule,

944
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 5: and so I remember the organizer came back and they

945
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 5: were like, is it cool, Like if you're not in

946
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 5: too much of a rush. We might have to switch

947
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 5: things around a little bit. There's this brother that has

948
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 5: to catch a flight, and so you know we might

949
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 5: is it okay if he goes on before you?

950
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 4: And blah blah blah blah.

951
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 5: And I was just like okay, you know, like of course,

952
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 5: I all roll with it. And sometimes it can be nice.

953
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 5: You're moving up in the in the water. Yeah, right,

954
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 5: So it's kind of like even though I was, I

955
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 5: was ready.

956
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 4: To go, but maybe because it's hot, but maybe.

957
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 5: You know, this is a better look. And they didn't

958
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 5: tell me who the person was, and then said artist

959
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 5: you know, gets announced and it was a really warm reception.

960
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 5: You know, it's mainly women in the audience, and this

961
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 5: artist is killing it, proceeds to take off their shirt

962
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 5: all grease, suck work the crowd, get into the audience.

963
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 5: I'm telling you. It was like the show was coming

964
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 5: to an ending and I was like, what.

965
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 4: The what type of what are we about to do?

966
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 4: And we're just watching this amazing artist.

967
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then I had to go on after that,

968
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, And I just felt like

969
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 5: I couldn't rush to closer soon enough, you know what

970
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 5: I mean.

971
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: I gotta kill this.

972
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 4: I gotta because you don't want the energy to go down,

973
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And like, you know what

974
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 4: I mean when I met you later familiar.

975
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: Familia, you asshole.

976
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 2: But it makes it great is when you were saying it,

977
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 2: I've been out there.

978
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 4: That sounds like.

979
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 3: This is an amazing yo.

980
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 5: Name you know this brother if you don't mind, he's

981
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 5: just gonna go beforehand because he needs to catch a fight.

982
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 4: And we're like, hey, this is what.

983
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: As you started telling the story, I'm like, that.

984
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 4: Sounds from it killing it? Yes, shirt off?

985
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: No.

986
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 3: Even before you got there, I was like, Selma, I

987
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 3: was like, I've.

988
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: Been there, and I just I wanted to act. I

989
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: wanted to.

990
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 3: Remember that we were on the show, but we've been

991
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 3: on so many shows together.

992
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 5: I want to know you were gone by the time

993
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 5: I got on stage, so you want to remember my part?

994
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's awesome.

995
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it was very memorable. It was very memorable.

996
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 5: I was like, I need the details when they switch

997
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 5: up these lineups next time.

998
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 2: Make sure it's not a nigga who's gonna take his

999
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 2: shirt off.

1000
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 5: Okay, the oil up in the sun.

1001
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: It was definitely up in the sun.

1002
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 4: Walking through the crowd.

1003
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 5: He was like serenading everybody individually.

1004
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it was.

1005
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: Correct.

1006
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 3: You can touch this is great. That is that is

1007
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 3: a It might be the greatest of all times.

1008
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 5: Yes, I think about that every time I see that.

1009
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: You never told you, never told me that. I ain't

1010
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: saying your name. If I tell you the.

1011
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 4: Story to you, it sounds familiar.

1012
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 3: I just started crying because I was like, I know

1013
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 3: where this is going now.

1014
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: I didn't have to go.

1015
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:26,439
Speaker 4: It was a good show.

1016
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: Though.

1017
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 4: It was a good show.

1018
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: You want to thank her for it. Thank you for

1019
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: your flight flight. You were awesome. You were awesome for that.

1020
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 5: You were awesome, even though it was it was painful

1021
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 5: at the time.

1022
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: We'll do another showy.

1023
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I was like, man, okay, be ready, put

1024
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 5: your game face on, get out there and do not disappoint.

1025
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 5: After this man just left the stage like with They

1026
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 5: were kind of just like, okay, but.

1027
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: You knew this was coming.

1028
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 4: That's how it goes, you know.

1029
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 2: But that's also part of being a professional in this business.

1030
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 2: Those type of things happen.

1031
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: All the time.

1032
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were just gracious enough, But sometimes artists are

1033
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 2: just like no, no, Jahams said no, he said, James

1034
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 2: said Jahams said.

1035
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 4: No because they probably said your name.

1036
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 3: No. After I performed, I got back to the spouse like,

1037
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 3: are you supposed to be on stage?

1038
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: No? You can have a champ that's all you. Baby.

1039
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: I was like, what, sure, turn, it's your turn.

1040
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 4: I heard that I.

1041
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: Ain't on that tonight. I ain't on that tonight.

1042
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 5: Okay, but see, you're right, it is it. It's such

1043
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 5: a roller coaster in this industry, and it's like you

1044
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 5: can't burn bridges. You can't get too comfortable being treated

1045
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 5: a certain way, or even in humbling situations, you might

1046
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 5: have the next day or the next moment be this

1047
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 5: like amazing moment, or you never know who's gonna be there,

1048
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 5: that's gonna you know, you just never know, and you

1049
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 5: gotta just rock with it and try and have the

1050
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 5: best attitude possible because it's like the circles come back around,

1051
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 5: right if you're lucky to be in it long enough. Great,

1052
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 5: I remember we go back to now. I don't have

1053
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 5: no crazy story, though.

1054
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: I get his ass moment. I actually got kicked out

1055
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: of the video. Okay, that's true.

1056
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 4: But you would make all the dopest remixes, right, I was.

1057
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 2: None for stealing people's records, but that was I wasn't

1058
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 2: making money off of them.

1059
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 5: But you know what, but you were still but you

1060
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,919
Speaker 5: were still building your brand. For me, it's like you're

1061
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 5: making money, Yeah, I know what I mean.

1062
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 2: But ultimately, the funny thing is I didn't do a

1063
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 2: lot of shows, so I really wasn't making.

1064
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 4: I was just getting played on the radio.

1065
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 2: I was getting paid, but but I wasn't. I also

1066
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: wasn't submitting the songs as my record, so I never

1067
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 2: got in the way of anybody else's publishing. So for

1068
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 2: those songs, which.

1069
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: It just wasn't it wasn't my thing, you know. I

1070
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: was purely doing it.

1071
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 2: To have fun and like, oh this would sound dope

1072
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 2: more so than oh, I'm gonna use this record to

1073
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 2: try to become big off of somebody's record or I

1074
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 2: was just like, but you were.

1075
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 5: Doing and that's like kind of how we came up. Yeah,

1076
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 5: it's kind of just like how to.

1077
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 4: Version because it's.

1078
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 5: Like a bunch of rappers basically, and it's like, how

1079
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 5: can you keep the vibe high but.

1080
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 4: Do your version?

1081
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 5: You know, like I'm sprung and all that, you know

1082
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 5: what I mean, All of those and like I was

1083
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 5: just doing this show me and Dougie freshmorn it the

1084
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 5: other day, and he was afterwards just talking about like

1085
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 5: the importance of rocking a crowd. He was like, whether

1086
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 5: it's your music or a cover or whatever, it's about

1087
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 5: like when we do live shows, it's about the energy

1088
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 5: of the crowd, you know what I mean, and lifting

1089
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 5: that up more than us trying to, you know, do whatever.

1090
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 5: So like we loved all.

1091
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: Those songs, you know, I was just trying to have

1092
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: a good time.

1093
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 2: You were having a good time, not to get sued,

1094
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,919
Speaker 2: and shit, I feel you.

1095
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: He's back now.

1096
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 2: Now he's gonna put up his own yeah, now you know,

1097
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 2: and somebody can still my then I'm fine with it.

1098
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sading nobody. Season. It's just half rock out,

1099
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: half of rock out. Keep the music on, keep the

1100
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: energy going, more the better.

1101
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, this shit gonna live on one way other Are

1102
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 2: you hope that did that?

1103
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: Thank you?

1104
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.

1105
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 5: I honestly like, I love your guys' show. I love

1106
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 5: you guys individually and just what you've done in the

1107
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 5: different ways. And I remember, like even you doing I

1108
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 5: can't make you love me, you know what? I mean

1109
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 5: and putting your own twist on that. And I remember

1110
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 5: you hosting some stuff some years ago and I was like,

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Speaker 5: he has a knack for this. I hope he does

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Speaker 5: more of it, you know. And I just love seeing

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Speaker 5: you transition in all the different ways that you have

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Speaker 5: and then like you're putting out music again too. It's

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Speaker 5: just like I appreciate the evolution.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, evolution, I like that word. I'm not retiring. Well,

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Speaker 3: we appreciate you, your your family. You are always welcome.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. We are we are edge

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Speaker 3: of disposal whatever you need. And I'll be sending your

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Speaker 3: tracks for colors. I'm very excited about that where I

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Speaker 3: get to just be creative, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: to have some fun with my sounds and paint and

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Speaker 3: use all of my colors. That's gonna be dumb, ladies

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Speaker 3: and gentlemen. I'm Tank Valentine and this has been the

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Speaker 3: R and B Money Podcast. The authority of all things

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 3: We have a guidance as a goddess among steps and

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Speaker 3: we have been so blessed to be here today.

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Speaker 1: With her Guampala.

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