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Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black

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Speaker 1: Effect and our Heart Radio in partnership with Showtime. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back Man, season two of All the Smoke. We got

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Speaker 1: a real special guests. What's up with your Brode with

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Speaker 1: the virtual headshake? I'm gonna tell you that I never

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Speaker 1: told him back. I want to smoke. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: another edition to All the Smoke. Jack, what's happening with you? Man?

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Speaker 1: Cool and Man? Still at it? Man, let's not get

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Speaker 1: out You on your way to Kali soon? Huh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to get out there. Man. We got

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Speaker 1: we got a big celebration for your birthday coming up.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to pop my column, Man, coming up, coming up,

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Speaker 1: Come up, man, Man. Our next guest is someone I

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Speaker 1: came into the league with way back in two thousand two.

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Speaker 1: Was our draft class, someone who's been grinding. Uh this

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Speaker 1: your eighteen season if I'm not mistaken, Man, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show. Uh NBA Vet and World Champion Udonis Haslem

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Speaker 1: You dat whatever? Bro? And hey, helldo we got you got?

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Speaker 1: You gotta start saying this when we introduce him, future

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Bro, future hall All It'll be It'll

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Speaker 1: be honest man. But yeah, not only did I come

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Speaker 1: come in with you though, but stat Jack, you don't

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Speaker 1: remember when I was playing in Summer League with San Antonio. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: that might have been like your first a second year

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Speaker 1: with seven year came you came to watch us play

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Speaker 1: in Vegas. You showed you showed me some love. And

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Speaker 1: you don't even know who I was, but you showed

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Speaker 1: me love. I already remember. I remember. Ship like that,

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Speaker 1: like ship like that, go a long long way? You

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Speaker 1: feel me, yes, sir, Yes, sir, Hey, you know a

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Speaker 1: funny story before I knew Jack who who? Before me

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Speaker 1: and Jack were friends. I remember Jack came to Vegas

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Speaker 1: the summer they won the championship and we're all a

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Speaker 1: girl's run. Jack, I don't know remember this, but you

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Speaker 1: came in there with a big old throwback jersey on

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Speaker 1: and and your I think it was I think you

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Speaker 1: got a ring on or just a bunch of jewelry.

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Speaker 1: I knew y'all just wanted my motherer. Didn't come to

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Speaker 1: play at all. You just came to say what's up?

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Speaker 1: But everyone else in there about to work with nigga.

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Speaker 1: Jack became then with a big old Remember when the

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Speaker 1: throwback Jersey's ring ship how to do it? When I

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Speaker 1: wanted to touch your basketball, I ain't touch your basketball

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Speaker 1: when we want on smell smelling like a pound of dope. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and you probably can tell you everybody know the party

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Speaker 1: keep going out if they say, right, hey, man, well

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Speaker 1: let's get to it. U D was a disaster, um.

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Speaker 1: You know, obviously starting with the loss of Kobe and

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Speaker 1: g G and everyone else on the helicopter, to the pandemic,

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Speaker 1: to a crazy presidential race. What was one thing you

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Speaker 1: took from good or bad? Man? Uh? You never know

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Speaker 1: what you're gonna be called a step into man, and

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Speaker 1: you just gotta be ready. So you know, one of

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Speaker 1: the things I always said was stay ready to you

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Speaker 1: don't gotta get ready. And that always applied to sports,

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Speaker 1: but that kind of applied to life. You guys shocked

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Speaker 1: a lot of people, obviously believing in yourself. But your

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Speaker 1: fifth seed made a run to the NBA finals. What

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Speaker 1: was different outside of playing in the bubble? About the

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Speaker 1: run you guys made to the finals, um, and your

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Speaker 1: three other uh excuse me, two other championship runs? Man,

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Speaker 1: To be honest, that that bubble we had before we

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Speaker 1: even stepped down there. Man, I had the mindset that

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Speaker 1: the basketball court. So people was like, yo, you're ready

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Speaker 1: not been in France, man, I'm gonna take my id,

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Speaker 1: take my own ankles for a game, like I ain't.

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Speaker 1: Always had no training staff, Like I remember getting on

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Speaker 1: the phone calling Mike Miller, like, Yo, send me some

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Speaker 1: anchle bracons. I can't keep taking my own ship, brother,

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Speaker 1: it ain't. I can't. I can't. So like the bubble, man,

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Speaker 1: that was nothing. I was already locked in for that.

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Speaker 1: I already knew what it was. So for me, I

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Speaker 1: to get it, to get cool with Jimmy, to kind

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Speaker 1: of understand Jimmy, you gotta get on Jimmy level. So

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Speaker 1: all that. So for me, like I took, I took

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Speaker 1: But for me, I was pretty much, you know, in

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Speaker 1: that leadership mode the whole time. So you're the last

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Speaker 1: real o G in the league. Like people that have

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Speaker 1: runs like you, it doesn't exist. And we were talking

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Speaker 1: about this earlier. We shot a show for West Burning earlier.

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Speaker 1: There's no more O G vets. You know what are

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Speaker 1: you forty right, forty years old, eighteen years in the game,

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Speaker 1: and you bought into it. You know, we talked when

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Speaker 1: I when I seen you at the presidential thing back

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Speaker 1: in November, I think it was or right before November.

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Speaker 1: How you know, it was tough, but you understand what

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Speaker 1: your role is. You know, you definitely want to be

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Speaker 1: So you've really embraced that O G leadership roles and

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Speaker 1: like you said, it was important for you to connect

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Speaker 1: with Jimmy talk to us about the connections with the

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Speaker 1: other players that you know you had to make, and

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Speaker 1: what kind of things you kind of had to do

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Speaker 1: to first of all connect but then bring everybody together.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, so to clear the ship up, everybody

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Speaker 1: what it is. But evolution is a part of all

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Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, I don't own

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Speaker 1: my own team yet, you know what I'm saying, Maybe

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Speaker 1: one day I don't own my own team yet. That's

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Speaker 1: the goal for a lot of us to be in

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Speaker 1: a position where we go on our own team and

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Speaker 1: it ain't right. But I don't control that. So for me,

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Speaker 1: how can you impact winning without being on the basketball court.

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Speaker 1: That's the next phase for me and ship. You gotta

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Speaker 1: tap in with these dudes. Man, if you don't treat

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Speaker 1: come in and say, oh I can do this. You

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Speaker 1: can't do that. That's what I did, and that's what

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Speaker 1: I saw what you did in college. I respect that

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Speaker 1: A lot of work I do with these boys be

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Speaker 1: When people look at the situations in the relationship I

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So all these guys that

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Speaker 1: way beyond basketball because I tell all these dudes first

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Speaker 1: I think you made a great point because leadership, most

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Speaker 1: of the time, they're not gonna And if people who

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Speaker 1: Got that respect. You know, like you said, once it's

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Speaker 1: I saw you taking over the huddles and I really, like,

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Speaker 1: I just thought it was dope, because I mean, I

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Speaker 1: because I think that ship is dope that you've taken

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Speaker 1: and pride aside, because we're all competitors and at the

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Speaker 1: And we'll get it twisted. Now we still get our

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Speaker 1: ones upstairs. Now I still get get it. I still

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Speaker 1: get eat and that's that jack. I still get eat

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Speaker 1: they talked that ship we boys, I still get eat

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Speaker 1: it has heard. So tell me this mate, how strange

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Speaker 1: was it playing huge games in the playoffs with no

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Speaker 1: fans and the bubble. That was crazy. It was crazy.

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Speaker 1: But not now all that this here, All that got

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Speaker 1: cut out in the bubble because now who you're talking to,

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Speaker 1: talking to. A lot of that ship got dumped down.

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Speaker 1: A lot of that ship got dumbed down in the bubble.

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Speaker 1: And no misunderstandings. You can't say none of that ain't

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Speaker 1: no misunderstands the bubble. So it's a lot of humble

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Speaker 1: ship going on in the bubble. Man, But there was

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Speaker 1: me the ball. He can't guard me. He can't guard me.

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00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,720
Speaker 1: He too small, Like I got funk work. I'm stronger,

426
00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:09,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It wasn't you know that

427
00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,080
Speaker 1: that athletic. But I just knew how to get a bucket.

428
00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,480
Speaker 1: So at that time, conditioning and that part of it

429
00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,320
Speaker 1: wasn't really a focus for me, you know what I'm saying.

430
00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,120
Speaker 1: When I got to college, that's when I really understood

431
00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:19,760
Speaker 1: that you had to be in great shape. You had

432
00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,199
Speaker 1: to eat right. You know what I'm saying, You had

433
00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,320
Speaker 1: to get your rest. I think that's when Billy started

434
00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,359
Speaker 1: really kind of like, you know, breaking me in on

435
00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,119
Speaker 1: that aspect, and he wouldn't let up. You know what

436
00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Every morning you up, you got conditioned. If

437
00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,960
Speaker 1: you don't go, you gotta go again the next day

438
00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,679
Speaker 1: and again at night. So it was like, if you

439
00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,520
Speaker 1: don't go, you gotta go twice the next day. So

440
00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,760
Speaker 1: Billy was the first one to really really get that

441
00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,760
Speaker 1: discipline in my life as far as that, and to

442
00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,119
Speaker 1: this day, I still I still live like that. I

443
00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,320
Speaker 1: still eat right, I still work out. You know I'm saying,

444
00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,360
Speaker 1: I still train my body in my mind a certain way,

445
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,439
Speaker 1: just saying I love it so to decorated, you know

446
00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:56,280
Speaker 1: for your player, which is rare these days. Um, two

447
00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,920
Speaker 1: two you go undrafted. The minute that draft stop, what's

448
00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,800
Speaker 1: going through your mind? The worst best night of my

449
00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,760
Speaker 1: dawn life? Man I had, Man, I had a great

450
00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,399
Speaker 1: college to really you know what I'm saying, Um, I

451
00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,199
Speaker 1: had teams tell me it was gonna draft me. And

452
00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,640
Speaker 1: that's what people don't understand. Man. Like, It's never been

453
00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,920
Speaker 1: a situation where I've never been salty with the league

454
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,280
Speaker 1: or whatever the situation was. But I am salty when

455
00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:20,720
Speaker 1: you look at my face and tell me something and

456
00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,159
Speaker 1: you don't do that and you look you lie right

457
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,439
Speaker 1: to me and you look me at my face. I

458
00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,439
Speaker 1: was never given it. I was never Nobody never told

459
00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,200
Speaker 1: me they're gonna take me first round. A lot of

460
00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:29,600
Speaker 1: people look at my face and tell me, if you're

461
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,879
Speaker 1: there a second round, we're gonna take you. Hm, that

462
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,359
Speaker 1: didn't happen. I was just motivation for the next phase

463
00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,040
Speaker 1: of my life. Man. When I got to Europe. Man,

464
00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,760
Speaker 1: I took one night. Man, I tell people this all

465
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,679
Speaker 1: the time. I took one night at the Bottle of

466
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,639
Speaker 1: Hennessy at Boston Black and Mirs. I gave myself one

467
00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,399
Speaker 1: night the pity party. Get that ship out your system,

468
00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,560
Speaker 1: feel bad for yourself, and get to work. And that's

469
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,399
Speaker 1: how I him and that's how I handled it. Man. People,

470
00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 1: I stayed on I stayed on American time while I

471
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,680
Speaker 1: was over there in France, I took naps um during

472
00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,159
Speaker 1: the day. I stayed up and I communicated with my

473
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,120
Speaker 1: family and I worked out what was that experience? Like,

474
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 1: how how difficult was it to play basketball in Florida,

475
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,880
Speaker 1: then go to the University of Florida and then you're

476
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 1: overseas thinking you were going to be in the NBA. Man,

477
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,200
Speaker 1: I've never seen snow before. I cracked the wind shield. Dog.

478
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 1: So I get up in the morning, it's ice all

479
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,880
Speaker 1: over the car, all over the wind shield. In my mind,

480
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 1: he takes some hot water and throw it on the ship.

481
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 1: The met that was that makes sense to me for

482
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 1: what like man that ship boom the hold damn wind

483
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,639
Speaker 1: shield crack. I don't blow the people ship. Now I

484
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,639
Speaker 1: got it. Now I can't drop the next next. A

485
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 1: month later, I'm driving. Now I don't know how to

486
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 1: drive stick ship. If I'm driving that, I'm driving, I

487
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 1: don't hit this man ship. He jumped out of the car.

488
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 1: He of he talking that. I don't speak French. He

489
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 1: talking friends. So now it's getting I know he talked

490
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 1: to crazy. So now I didn't get one of them.

491
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,360
Speaker 1: I leave a car. I go to practice because now

492
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 1: I know the car got the team name on it. Man.

493
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,399
Speaker 1: People come into the jail, so now I'm in France.

494
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 1: I'm locked up. I don't did the day in friends jail.

495
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 1: It was a learning experience, though, that's what I said.

496
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 1: It was a learning experience. Man, I understood like every

497
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 1: once again every hood in that your hood. Man, you

498
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 1: can't live right when you out when you you a

499
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 1: certain places, you gotta act a corney. Man. You ain't

500
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 1: you out of bounds, bro, you gotta act. I'm over

501
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 1: in France and not thinking I'm still in Miami and

502
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,400
Speaker 1: then it wasn't working like that. That's tough. See, all

503
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: three of us have similar journeys, you know what I mean.

504
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 1: Jack and I were drafted but didn't make it. And

505
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: it's funny you say that. I went out got super high, drunk,

506
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 1: and then I went to the d League because I

507
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 1: really felt like I deserved to be in the NBA.

508
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 1: So I just went there, just on on sucking everybody

509
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 1: up and see that you or me, and it was

510
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 1: gonna be me. And then Jack, you know, went on

511
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 1: his journey and finally found his funding. But to me,

512
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 1: once I got there, it made me appreciate it so

513
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 1: much more. Like I didn't take ship for granted because

514
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: people say, oh, you got drafted, you made it. That's

515
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 1: the furthest thing from the truth, you know. I mean

516
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 1: it had it was taken away from me before I

517
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 1: ever got it. And by the time I got there,

518
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 1: like I I played every gas. Why I played so

519
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: fucking hard outside of being a football players, I played

520
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 1: every game like it was my last because I was

521
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 1: in a situation where it could have been not even

522
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 1: talking about injury, but just I started on a ten

523
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 1: day contract. You know what I mean? So that grind

524
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: was real? How did you end up leaking up with Miami?

525
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 1: Um in oh three? So like I said, um stat jack.

526
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 1: Remember So I played some of the Heat and I

527
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 1: had a great summer league. Me and the Way we

528
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: had a great summer league. Right after that, I got

529
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 1: a call from san Antonio. So I go play at

530
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 1: san Antonio. I told that ship up. I'm telling my

531
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,439
Speaker 1: double double machine out there with san Antonio in Vegas.

532
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: San Antonio offered me off me a one year deal

533
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 1: at that time that he hadn't offered me anything yet.

534
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: About a week later, after the Heat offered me, um,

535
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. After san Antonio offer me um did, Heat

536
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: called me and they offered me a two year deal.

537
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 1: I go down and sign a deal and the great

538
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 1: ball I could do a Hall of Famer man. This

539
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: was something that I never forget, man, because when you

540
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: talk about throwback jerseys, if you ask at hand, no

541
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 1: MA could do it through. If you'll ask, ain't had

542
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 1: no macadde throw back jersey. You you ain't even throw

543
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: back game. You ain't a throw back game. So the Great,

544
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: the Great Bob Mica do looked at me. He say, Man,

545
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 1: I told him, people, once I've seen you in Las

546
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 1: Vegas at that at that summer league, you better sign

547
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: that boy. And with that, man, I mean, like I said,

548
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 1: Man once again, I'm just I'm my dog. I'm trying

549
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: to eat out here. Man. But you take the time

550
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 1: and you hear somebody like Michael Do say something like that,

551
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,239
Speaker 1: and you take time to kind of like step back

552
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: and appreciate, you know, the work that you're putting in.

553
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: But it makes you want to do more, you know

554
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And make you want to do more,

555
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: you know, it don't make you want to stop there.

556
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 1: So you know, that was the beginning of my journey

557
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: for the Miami Heat. You know, having an opportunity to

558
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 1: go play for the Miami Heat and san Antonio really

559
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: catapulted my career because you know how this goes. You

560
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, it's a copycat league. You know

561
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. How much they how much they offer them,

562
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: They're gonna know ball, Yes said somebody offer you two dollars,

563
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna offer you two fifty. So it wasn't it

564
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 1: wasn't too san Antonio offer me one year and then

565
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 1: he came back off of me too. That's how I

566
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: worked out. Yeah, that's how I worked out, man, And

567
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: y'all ground to man always always you know what I'm saying,

568
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: and I know you know what I'm saying this y'all show.

569
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: So I ain't gonna give y'all. I can't, you know,

570
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 1: take your time, but I do want to get y'all praise.

571
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 1: I always appreciate it the way y'all play the game.

572
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 1: And they were back down. We wasn't never the stuff

573
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: for you. Stat used to get your shots up, but

574
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: we weren't never really people that got a lot of shots.

575
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: You got your ship up. Now you got to give up.

576
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: You can't with your got the gun every now and yeah,

577
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: but we weren't really guys that had a lot of

578
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: plays round for us, man, But we find ways to

579
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: impact winning, Dog, and people needed us on their team.

580
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: You needed guys like us to win. Like I tell

581
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: people all the time, Dog, you got drivers of the car,

582
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: you got people that do all that other ship. But

583
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 1: you take away the mechanic. Let that motherfucker don't crank

584
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 1: up and where you're gonna go. Take away the people

585
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 1: that work on and take away the people that change

586
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: the oil, take away the people that change the tires

587
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: and all that, and see how far that car go

588
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: ain't going nowhere? That that's that that goes is what

589
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: what Greg Poppers used to say. He was like, Man,

590
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: you have a lot of teams. You got your Tim Duncans,

591
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 1: you got your Kobe Bryant, you got your the d wads,

592
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 1: But they don't win championship without run. I test Draymond Green,

593
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: Stephen Jackson. You Donna's hassling always always always impacted winning, bro.

594
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: And I commend y'all for that, man, because it could

595
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: go the other way when you when you're only getting

596
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: four or five shots. We haven't seeing people to go

597
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: the other way. They can't figure out the way to

598
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: impact winning. Now they't just a goddamn counsel. Now they're

599
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: not you know what I'm saying. Now, you don't even

600
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 1: want to be around the ass. No, you don't want

601
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: to ask in the locker room. You want to be

602
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: around the ass. You don't want to round you So

603
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 1: you figure way the impact? Yeah, man, And if people

604
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: don't know how tough that is on you mentally just

605
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 1: to state and figure out where is the impact winning man.

606
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: So especially when you commend to y'all, I'm committing. Appreciate that, bro,

607
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: Thank you, bro. Appreciate it. So tell me that you

608
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: d what was your welcome to the NBA moment? Oh man,

609
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: Derrick Kobe, do you see d C d C Filing

610
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 1: shipped out of me one game when he was playing

611
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: for Filling? And I say, damn you see you try

612
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: to hit me that hard? You say, y'all felt if

613
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: I tried to hurt you, you you have been on a stretcher.

614
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: I said, Okay, it wasn't. Listen, I respect that. I

615
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: know now, I know if you was really trying to

616
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: suck me up, I would have been out of here.

617
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: I get it. I get people don't know. Derrek Coleman

618
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: one of the motherfucker's when he says something he mean it,

619
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: ain't know if it's but about it. He told me, listen,

620
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: ya felt, if I was really try to hurt your

621
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: assould have been on a stretching. Respect you know, And

622
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't that I was scared. But he's

623
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: getting real like, if I was really trying to hurt

624
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: your ass, I would have hurt you heavy handed. Nigger,

625
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: big old heavy hands. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

626
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, they on this ship out here,

627
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: they hurt your ans if they feel that's what they

628
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: are out here. I get it. But see that's a

629
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: different game though, you know what I mean. We came

630
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: in Jack, you came in uh late nineties and early

631
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: two thousands. We came in early two thousands. It was

632
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: real like we was playing with some real big dudes.

633
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: I remember playing with Shaq early, you know, midway through

634
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: my career, and he used to say, you know, if

635
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: so so it gets going, just send him to the

636
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: paint and I'll put him out. I said, Yo, you

637
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,479
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Said Shock used to let them

638
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: let him come to the paint. I'm gonna knock him down.

639
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: And that was just the of the game, hard fouls.

640
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: But the game is so different now. But I remember

641
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: banging against them O G s. And you never knew

642
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: what that old man strength was until you ran straight

643
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: up real talk man got them to this day. Man,

644
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: old man strength is real. People don't know what People

645
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: don't think that that is real. Man strength is something else. Yes, man,

646
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: Gary Payton, put that form on your ass. You ain't

647
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: going nowhere. Do them. You said what you want to say,

648
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 1: You're gonna form and hand check and do all this.

649
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: You ain't going nowhere, And we caught the end where

650
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: you could form and you could grab their hip. Remember

651
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: when they would try to grab your hip, then you

652
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: really wasn't moving at all. Like you couldn't even get

653
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: out of that show. You had to run away to

654
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: get away. Man, that was a grown man basketball. That's

655
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: when that's when they found out your ass couldn't play

656
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: no defense. They go at you times, go at your

657
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: fifty to turn four. Hey, listen, they will go at

658
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: your as fifty five times. That took you out ship real.

659
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: What was your pression obviously coming in getting your chance

660
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: on oh three? What was your impression of a young

661
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: d Way man so green? You know what I'm saying,

662
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: like man for the Way, Like you know what I'm saying,

663
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: when he came down to Miami, like I have been overseas,

664
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: but I felt like when he came down to Miami,

665
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: like he was real quiet. Um. You know, they didn't

666
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: say much. You know, only time you really saw like

667
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: an aggressive side or or like a side that really

668
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: was like fourceful was on the basketball court. Man even

669
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: off the basketball court. He didn't talk much, but we

670
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: spent so much time together. Man, we were living in

671
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: uh the Mutiny Hotel, me the way. He was standing

672
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: in the Mutey Hotel, and o J. O J was

673
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: standing in the Mutey Hotel too. We were staying down

674
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: out the Muty Hotel. I see I had the weight

675
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: on y'all show. I wish I would ask the way

676
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: about o J. We stay and get hey, he's talking

677
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: about you, talking about the juice. The juice that's up.

678
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,239
Speaker 1: It's up. And listen o J. Listen. I don't want

679
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: to get off. O J. Woman tried to hold at

680
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: the way. I say, the way listen here. I said that,

681
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: and I think that's how many the way got told.

682
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: I said, listen here, you know that's OJ woman. Boy.

683
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: I say, you know that's boy. I said, no, maybe

684
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: I have to call the people over here. Yeah, man,

685
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: the way was living in the Mutiny man and and

686
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: o J. Woman tried to hould that the way man,

687
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: I told you weight of rip man, listen, man, don't

688
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know that's OJ woman. I don't

689
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: know if he did it or he didn't do it.

690
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: But we might have that we might have to we

691
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: might have to handle him if he come over were playing.

692
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: But we literally spent that something together. Man. When people

693
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: talk about Miami Heat coaching, man, it's really a coaching. Man.

694
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: You build a bond through the work ethic. You know

695
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And that's what people, you know what

696
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying, don't understand, is we really build our bond

697
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: through working together and pushing each other so many way

698
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: spend the whole some of together. Our workouts in the

699
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: morning was we was at the track at you know,

700
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm running. We was over that the arena, fire basketball

701
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: in our weights. Uh. Afternoon we would go over to

702
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: zo um and uh over town we go to Zojim.

703
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: We play pick up a lot of pros in town

704
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: and summer, and then at night when we go back

705
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: over to the arena, we would get our shots up.

706
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: And that's literally how man, you way to spend the

707
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: whole something. That was it, you know what I'm saying.

708
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: It was me and him and just like the same thing.

709
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: You you in my city, man, and I'm gonna look out.

710
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: You know, you come to the gril crib, You're gonna

711
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: get something. We're gonna ripe through the hood. I'm make

712
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: sure my people take care of you. When the time

713
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: D Way went out, we ain't nobody tapped one show

714
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: to say I'm d homeboy. You straight need anything, just

715
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: let me know. And it's just how it was. Yeah,

716
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't. I didn't use that line before.

717
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm d your own boy. I listen, and I don't

718
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: use that lie before two stad Jack, everybody knew. And

719
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: it's real. You really recognize me, Man, you're a certain

720
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: place you tap in. Man, you already know what it is. Yeah,

721
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: you got it. You got to do it if I'm

722
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: in there, if I'm in that lake. Yeah, I'm at

723
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: home Boy for show. I don't want no problems home boy.

724
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm too old for that. Man. I'm man. I got

725
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: more time behind me than I do ahead of me. Man,

726
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: I don't want no problems man with you on that one.

727
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: So what was it like the growth see coming in

728
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: as a rookie? When did you kind of see him

729
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: start making his stride? Man? Wow, she I think when

730
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: they moved him to the point guard. I think when

731
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: they moved him to the point guard. I don't I

732
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: want to say it was maybe halfway through our last season, Um,

733
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: they moved to I'm sorry halfway through our first season. Um.

734
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: I think I don't think people remember that the way

735
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: they played point you know, his first year, and I

736
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: think about halfway through our first season is when he

737
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: moved the point guards, when he kind of finally started

738
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: like coming into his own. Maybe he felt more comfortable

739
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: just having a ball in his hand all the time.

740
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: It wasn't because he was making place for no damn

741
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: by that tell you that, but comfortab might just felt

742
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: more comfortable half of the ball in and mans all

743
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: the time because he was because he started getting to

744
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: the money. You know what I'm saying. You start getting

745
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: to the money, started getting his bags pulled up. He

746
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: was getting to the basket. I never seen nobody get

747
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: to the basket the way he was able to get

748
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: to the basket. You couldn't stop him to get into

749
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: the basket if you wanted to, Like, no matter what

750
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: you did, you couldn't stop him from getting to the basket.

751
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: And then once he started hitting people with that put

752
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: up and all that ship like that, I mean, it

753
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: was just a different ball game. And I mean people

754
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: look at the move that he made. I think you

755
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: know it always goes back. That took us to our

756
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: first playoffs for we want our first playoffs series against

757
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: Southern New Orleans. Um that movie, he had the ball.

758
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: We I sold him up top against b D. Shout

759
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: out to be d um a real, a real one,

760
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: another real shout out of man. So I at the

761
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: top of gainst b D. And he made a tough shot. Man.

762
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: I think you know from that point on, you know

763
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: the ways, uh, you know, his legend just you know,

764
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: kept going from that point. Let's do the way. He

765
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: was the king of rejecting screens man, to reject your

766
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: ass off to the base, to the baseline and go

767
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: dunk that bit. Man. He retired great, he was great

768
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: at that, man, he was really great at that. Man.

769
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: Then he started that Euro and then he didn't started,

770
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: but obviously he took it and made it, mastered it. Yeah,

771
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: he made it more athletic and started dunking people with it.

772
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The Euro was a layup,

773
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: you're dunk your ass like that was the young d

774
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,239
Speaker 1: Way was dunking that bitch. Yeah, you're on dunk your

775
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: grass man, Who are your vets on that team? Man? Uh,

776
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: Karan Butler, shout out CB, he backed out with us.

777
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, somebody who I get to

778
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: tap in with now, because being the O G, I

779
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: really have nobody to sit down and really tap in

780
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: with when I need a voice. So Karan Butler, Um,

781
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: Brian Grant, Eddie Jones for a lot of dar legend.

782
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Eddie Jones was was my

783
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: was my vet. You know, all those are great guys, man,

784
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: you know, uh shout out to brand. Grant was probably

785
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: at that time the closest you know person to me. Um.

786
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: You know, he really taked me a lot at that

787
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: time about work ethic, grinding, this league, being undersized, shooting

788
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: that little mere Range jumper. You know what I'm saying.

789
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: I didn't shoot that media. You know what I'm saying.

790
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: I just thought I was gonna get that post work

791
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: down there at six seven. That ship wasn't realistic. I

792
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: hadn't learned how to shoot that MIDI. Yeah. What with

793
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: b G Man? What b g A Right now? He's

794
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: running his own foundation man out there in Portland. Man,

795
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: he's doing well. He's really real tapped into that foundation

796
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: workout there in Portland. Uh, today's birthday too, man Man,

797
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: Happy birthday, b G Man. That's my boys and my

798
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: love to him to U D that's a real one man. Yeah,

799
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: the show is Man took me out on his boat,

800
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: Man and it really took me onder this wing you

801
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: know down here. Man showed me a lot of love,

802
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: took me out to the strip clubs with him, Kevin

803
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: to Cavin as he should. All I had to do

804
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: was all I had to do was have his coffee

805
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: for me. He played by his coffee. Ain't if you

806
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't have his coffee your asses, grass. That's all I

807
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: had to do was have his coffee. I remember them

808
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: them rookie duties, and I don't know if that should

809
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: exists anymore, but they really hates to have to bring

810
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: the paper to the coffee. The dog dog. We ain't

811
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: had no uble. Remember that ship. We had to go

812
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: get your coffee with no damn Oba. You can't press

813
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: the button and just have a car pick up and

814
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: take you there. And you had to figure that ship out.

815
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: And the investly want to hear that. They adn't want

816
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: to hear I couldn't get those car. They didn't want

817
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: to hear no cab ship. You had to have the

818
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: people ship. These guys got bobus. They could press the

819
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: but and they're gonna get our ship and come back quick.

820
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: Whatever we need, we had it. Have shipped for the plane,

821
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: have ship after the games. When you hop on that

822
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: late night fly, you gotta go have the drink ready.

823
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: Like there was some real rules and regulations that they

824
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: went down. Yeah. Man, But then at the end of

825
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: the day, they took care of you, you know, playoff

826
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: on whatever it is they took m her Dam was everything.

827
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: When I first got in the league, I'm like, what

828
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: what's this Like? I used to they used to get

829
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: to the O G pass the little per DM checks

830
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 1: man b mft that ship, boy, blow that ship fast

831
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: that ship. But the game? What's that last? Burn a

832
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: hole in our pockets? Right up? What was it like

833
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 1: when Shot came and joined the team? Man? Wow? Oh, expectations.

834
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: You know, I think a lot of people don't understand

835
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: the expectations when when they're changing. It's it's different when

836
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: you're playing with championship expectations and when you're just playing

837
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: basketball on the team. Big difference. Now we got championship expectations,

838
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: We got somebody coming to Miami that's talking about winning

839
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: the championship. We got somebody that's coming to Miami that

840
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: has won the championship. So when Shaq came to Miami,

841
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: actually I started the criticism started for me first before

842
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: anybody because and I still remember to this day, they

843
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: the article was written that Shock had never won a championship.

844
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: That's how they come up with all kind of numbers. See,

845
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: I remember ship like this, Shock never won the championship

846
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: with anybody under six nine. Oh, it's a power forward.

847
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: So now, so now you're saying, Travis Knight is better

848
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: than me because he was taller than me. I tell

849
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: Travis Knight ass upright, Like what are you talking about?

850
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: So now you're saying because they're tallering to me, to

851
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: look at the name. I could go down the list

852
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: of people that have taller to me that he played with,

853
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: and I eat that ship. So now I'm saying to

854
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: myself once again, they go with that bullshit. It's always there.

855
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: You ain't you ain't gotta go far to find it.

856
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: They bring it to you that they'll bring it to you. Man,

857
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: People say, how you still do it at this at

858
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 1: this at this stage, because it's always there. The bullshit

859
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: is always do you know what I'm saying, it's always

860
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: do Now You've for a lot of people down, my

861
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: bad man, But you're a blueprint for a lot of people, man,

862
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: because like even us, you know, even me, especially like you,

863
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: you figured it out, Bro, like you figured it out,

864
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of people can't figure it out,

865
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, through the ups and downs,

866
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,959
Speaker 1: like a lot of players. And I ain't talking about

867
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: people that's never played again. I'm talking about players. Bro.

868
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: We commend you because you was able to figure it out.

869
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: Not only did you figure it out, you figured it

870
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: out at home, at home. You know what I'm saying. Man,

871
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this though, it ain't been all good. Bro.

872
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: We know that, you know, I know that. You know, Bro,

873
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: yourself and a dog and you don't want to be bothered,

874
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: and you don't want to talk to nobody, man, and

875
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: you and you want one. You feel sleepless. Nice man,

876
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: I had to pay my dues. You know what I'm saying,

877
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: it ain't been all good. I love the role that

878
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: I have and I enjoyed the success, man, But to

879
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: make this transition, I've been some sleepless, fucking nice bro grund.

880
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: Just real. I got a chance to play with Shaq

881
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 1: a little later in his career two years after Yeah,

882
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: oh eight oh eight or nine. I can't like he can't,

883
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: he said, can to Miami with expectation, talking about winning

884
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: the ring. You guys been able to do that? More

885
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: touch on that. But what was he like in the

886
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: locker room? Because to me, that motherfucker's said, befoot kid

887
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: always always playing ship and not flushing the toilet, running

888
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: around naked man all the time, man jokes man, going

889
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 1: drink out the orange juice caught and then don't close

890
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: and ship up. Just Chris wow man on the chain.

891
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 1: That nigger used to be famous for running through naked

892
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: and like grabbing people, like tackling the trainers. And he

893
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: tried to pay me one time. I was just like,

894
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: come on, bro, don't play this game too big like

895
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: ass playing all the time. Man, what that I didn't

896
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: when I was young. And when you're young and you're

897
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: coming from where we come from, man, you're like, go

898
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: head on with that ship. They fell on that brill

899
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: ship man, Like go ahead with that ship, man. But

900
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: as you get older, you understand the importance of having

901
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: somebody to keep it light, and somebody playing, and somebody

902
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: that got you smiling, and then somebody that's cracking jokes.

903
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: And I ain't saying you got to run around as snaked,

904
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: but you understand, you understand the important of somebody that

905
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: keep it light every day when you come in our

906
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 1: locker roomcause that ship could get to be it could

907
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: be zombie moment. After a while, you get to see

908
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: in the same people every day, you're doing the same ship,

909
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: and then it just become a routine, man. And once

910
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 1: it becomes a routine, man, you forget that you're playing

911
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: in the NBA and you're making millions of dollars. You

912
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: forget because you're just don't fell into that routine and

913
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: just doing this every day. So it was it's important.

914
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: I ain't understand that then, but it's important to have

915
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: somebody like that. I keep the locker room like, not

916
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: that kind of way, but I got my way of

917
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: cracking jokes and you keep you keep your clothes on

918
00:39:53,760 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: though all my ship all all the ain't so. Two

919
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: thousand and four, two thousand five, you guys go to

920
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference Finals, uh, losing seven games, to Detroit.

921
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: How tough was that Pistons team? Big shot ass up

922
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: boy Chauncey and they called him big shot. I've seen

923
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: it firsthand. When we talk about somebody that just wait

924
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: till the fourth quarter to put their foot in your ass,

925
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: I mean whatnot we could do with Chauncey in the

926
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, man, Because you talk about I had to

927
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: deal with sheet on the block. So when it girls

928
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: down the sheet, I got a sheet one on one,

929
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: he made the turnaround jumper. So now we're going to

930
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: the point where I read sheets. So now she can't

931
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: get the ball no more. Because if you get if

932
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: you get him first of all the six and leven,

933
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: he turn around, you shoot from up pill. So now

934
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: we make the adjustment the red sheet. We take him

935
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: out of the game. He can't get the ball in

936
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: the mom I'm just using my quickness, in my in

937
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: my strength just to keep him out of the game. Man,

938
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: when I tell you and shout out to Damon Jones, man,

939
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: I love Damon Jones. That's my home. But but when

940
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: I tell you, Chauncey took his ass through the KLC

941
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: drive through and gave him a three piece and asking

942
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: what he wanted on the side. Man. Everybody, Hey, everybody

943
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: took damnd Jones through the drive through. Man. Listen, that

944
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: ship was at the end of the game. Man, I

945
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 1: love D Jones, man, but it was thirty. Chauncey had thirty.

946
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: D Jones had a doughnut. Man. That was when you

947
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: talk about that was all dark meat, too fried, and

948
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: then it was all flats. It was right there. That

949
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: ain't even fry. So man, listen, when you talk about

950
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: that series, man, we was able to come bat a

951
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: lot of different things, man, but we could not deal

952
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: with Chauncey in the fourth quarter. That was. That was

953
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: the one thing we couldn't come back to keep up

954
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: with that team. You know what I'm saying. We was

955
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: able to come bat a lot of different things. There

956
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: was a great defensive team when you talk about you

957
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: know the way they had with Tay Shawn Prince and

958
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: Van Wallace and you know all those guys. But you

959
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: know we couldn't come back. Um, you know Chauncey because

960
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: he always did it in the fourth quarter. I mean

961
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: literally the first three quarters, he getting everybody involved, he

962
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 1: playing the game the right way. In the fourth quarter,

963
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: come in, I'm telling you know Chauncey went back your

964
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: ass down too. So now he getting the post and

965
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: go to Now he getting the post and go on

966
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: the dam and ass. So now he don't hit it

967
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: with ship three or four times of the post. So

968
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: now staying tell me to go down and dig. I

969
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: go down and did he threw that ship out and

970
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: she she hit the three on my face from uphill.

971
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: I told Stan, I ain't digging no more. He got

972
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: to go his man. He got to go in, y'all,

973
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: y'all take that as gonna take that ass what I

974
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: was staying. I told Stan, I ain't digging no more.

975
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: He got to go out. Hiss y'all, yeah, because he's crazy.

976
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: So this is like we're talking like this is before

977
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: you switch picks and all that kind of ship like

978
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: you had to guard your man back in the day

979
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: if they would send a dig or a double. But

980
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 1: outside of that you had to guard like. It wasn't

981
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: no switching screens or cross like, no, you had to

982
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: guard your motherfucking man. Yeah, she hit that. Turn around me,

983
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 1: I say, catching no more. Yeah, he got he can't

984
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: catch it no more. He won't catch you. And they

985
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: went to putting. They went to putting Chauncey in the post.

986
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: I dug one time she hit one three on me.

987
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: I told he got to guard this man. I ain't

988
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: going down there. That's it. So they end up taking

989
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: you guys next season, Uh is your guys championship season,

990
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: But you gotta start off slow. Eleven and ten understand, Uh,

991
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: Mafia pat Riley makes an executive decision to replace stand

992
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: with herself. You guys end up going forty one and

993
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: twenty the rest of the way and go on and

994
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: win a championship. What was the turning point for that team?

995
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,959
Speaker 1: Was it Pat coming down? Were you guys already talking

996
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: with it? A combination of both? What got what got

997
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: you guys on the right track? I mean, we really

998
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: stopped focusing on pressure and winning the championship. We just

999
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: stopped playing the game basketball. And I think everybody understood

1000
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: what the expectations were, and I think everybody wanted to

1001
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: get to that level. Um. But realistically, that was the

1002
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 1: first time, you know, having that group of guys together.

1003
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: You think about the trade that we made that year

1004
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: when we brought in j Will and pose shout out

1005
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: to my dog pos. Another real one. When you talked

1006
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: about j Willing and Pose and all of them dudes

1007
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: we brought in man Um, you know, we were in

1008
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: Antoine Walker, Um, you know, Gary Payton, you know we're

1009
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: Gary Payton, Jason Capon, Shandon Anderson camponos Zo. You know,

1010
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: it was really the first time we had that group

1011
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: of guys together. So the expectations was there. But you know,

1012
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: you can't rush that, you know, you can't. You can't

1013
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: just make it happy. You know, even with the Big

1014
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: Three we had that run, we started all slow, so

1015
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: you know, the expectations was then we just had to

1016
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: figure out to get it together. And what you do is,

1017
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people what people understanding in

1018
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: basketball and then this sport is if you win a

1019
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: seven game series that don't happen by accident, you're better

1020
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: than that team. But you can't get hot in this

1021
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: ship at the right time. You can't get hot in

1022
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: this ship at the right time. You know what I'm saying.

1023
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: You can't get hot in this ship at the right time.

1024
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: And sport team that team got hot at the right time.

1025
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: We got hot at the right time in the playoffs. Man,

1026
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 1: we got how at the right time, and it really

1027
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: the wheel started turning at the right time for us.

1028
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: Take us back. What was that journey like, you guys

1029
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: first round with the Bulls six games, Nts in five games,

1030
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: Pistons in six, you got your rematch, and then you

1031
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: guys beat Dallas in six for the title. Talk to

1032
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: us about that run. What do you remember most about it?

1033
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: Outside of d Way being amazing against Dallas Man, I

1034
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: mean just being surreal. You know, every step that I

1035
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,919
Speaker 1: was taking, I was saying to myself, Man, they ain't

1036
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: even believe I could be here. So every every every

1037
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: step for me was another opportunity to show the world

1038
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: that Udonis hasn't really deserve to be an NBA, you

1039
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I took every step personal.

1040
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: I took every every game personal. I took a playoff

1041
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: series personal, and and and as great of a guy

1042
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: as Dirk is, and as much as you know, I

1043
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: love and respect Dirk Man, I got the upmost respect

1044
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: for Dirk Man. I took that matchup personally. You know

1045
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I took that personal. You know what

1046
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: I mean. I take it personal from a lot of

1047
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: different aspects. I take it personal because I wasn't drafted

1048
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: and I took a personal because of what he did

1049
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: prior to that playoff, dirt was tamned. People asked, uh, yeah,

1050
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be next in line. They had

1051
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: to not already put me on the plate. It served

1052
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: me up, you know what I'm saying, Like I was

1053
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: supposed to be the next to get you know, chop

1054
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 1: sticks and all. I was supposed to get that. You

1055
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, That's what they were saying. You

1056
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm just sitting there watching once again,

1057
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: they're bringing that ship to my dough. I ain't looking forward,

1058
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: but it's the right you know what I'm saying. I

1059
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: specially was to be a part of bringing the first

1060
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: NBA title back to Miami. You know what when I

1061
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: did that, man, that's when I realized that I had

1062
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: been all the way around the world and it brought

1063
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: me back to Miami. You know what I'm saying, That

1064
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: I had to go to France to get back here.

1065
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, that's the first time I

1066
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: realized that I was I was. I was taking around

1067
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: the world just to come back to my seat and

1068
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: do something different and do something. Being around the world

1069
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: and now yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, feelers don't know about that.

1070
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: When your boys don't know about that, they wouldn't know,

1071
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: they wouldn't know where to start with that. Man. I

1072
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: had to ask one of the young boys other day.

1073
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: Spot asked one of the young boys of other Days,

1074
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: they know who James Worthy was? And he said no. Man,

1075
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like, oh my god, he take his

1076
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: contract labor maham, how you don't know jas that that

1077
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: jack out down? I felt out, my chep man, he

1078
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: had pressure to you know who dreams what it was?

1079
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: The pressure said no, man felt like James, that's the man.

1080
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: But I mean, damn, why don't lost my train of thought.

1081
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: Let's see, I had something forty What if we were

1082
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: just talking about. That's that forty old ship bringing the

1083
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: first championship back to Miami. Yeah, bringing the first ship.

1084
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: That was the first time I realized, man, that I

1085
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: was able to do something bigger than man because the

1086
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: city came out. You know what I'm saying. The city

1087
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: came out, and then I saw how the city reacted

1088
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: to me, and man, that made me just want to

1089
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: do more in the city. So once I see how

1090
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: to recite the reactor, to me, not just the championship

1091
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: team me. It was different when I went back in

1092
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: the You know what I'm saying, I never I never

1093
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: had security. I never had security. I always had my homeboy.

1094
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: I moved a certain way, and that's how I moved, man.

1095
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: But to see how the city reacted to me when

1096
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: I went back in the hoods, when I went back

1097
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: around my people, when you were a champion, you know

1098
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and you want to and you want

1099
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: to ours It's like you damn president in the hood

1100
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: and you want to And I did it the right way,

1101
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: feel me, and I did, man. So I was like

1102
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: I was like I was like I was. They called

1103
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: me the princes of the city. I never called myself that.

1104
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 1: I never self proclaiming myself that, But people had given

1105
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: me that name. You feel me, and I feel like

1106
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: they had a lot to do with the success that

1107
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 1: I had. But I took that success and I wanted

1108
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: to do more with it. Man. So now it's time

1109
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 1: to go to the next level with the business. And

1110
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: you provide jobs, and you provide opportunities, you do low

1111
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: income house and you do this that. In the third

1112
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: you touch a little bit of everything. Man, And that's

1113
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: the O G s in me. You know what I'm saying.

1114
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: I had to push the hustler. You touch it all

1115
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: if you can. Yeaholutely, that's what it is. You got

1116
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: a chance to play and we've touched on this a

1117
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: little bit, but you got a chance to play with

1118
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: one of the greatest two guards ever. Not only was

1119
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: he here a teammate, but it was your brother. What

1120
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: was it like watching his run, his greatness, him leaving

1121
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: and then coming back and finishing the right way? What

1122
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: was that like for you as a brother to be

1123
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: right next to him during that time? Man? I was

1124
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: I felt slightly Uh well, first of all, when he left,

1125
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: I had no issues with that. You know what I'm

1126
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: saying for me. You you right around. You take sides

1127
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: with a dog, and that that's all I'm gonna do.

1128
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ride with right anyway, regardless the way. You

1129
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: know that, I'm always gonna ride with the way. You

1130
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: know that, And that's until the wheels fall off this ship.

1131
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: So whatever he wanted to do, I had his back. Um.

1132
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: That's probably the strongest our relationship has gotten because I

1133
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: really we really made an effort that we really had

1134
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: to make an effort to keep in touch with each other.

1135
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Before we were just at

1136
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: each other face every day. It was just natural, you

1137
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And you know how easy it

1138
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: is when you see somebody every day just to keep

1139
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: in touch, and then when they trade it or next

1140
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: year theyre with somebody else, y'all don't even talk no more,

1141
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So when the Way it

1142
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: was gone, we actually talked more um about ship besides

1143
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: basketball than we ever did life. You know what I'm saying.

1144
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: Are you happy? Are you happy off the court? You

1145
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Because then we started to realize

1146
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: what true happiness was and that ship had nothing to

1147
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: do with basketball. All our life up until that point,

1148
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: we thought they had to do with basketball. We thought

1149
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: it was on the quarter, you know what I'm saying.

1150
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: And I think at that time and the Way's life,

1151
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, we really started to understand

1152
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: what true happened is well, true happiness is doing what

1153
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: you want to do. True happiness is going back to

1154
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: your hometown and plan. I've experienced that. I know how

1155
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: powerful that can be. I know the impact even have

1156
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: in your city. If you're able to bring a championship,

1157
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: are you able to do that for your city and

1158
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: lead them to that. So I understood him taking that

1159
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: chance and wanted to be able to have the opportunity

1160
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: to feel that. I want to be an opportunity to

1161
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: do that for Chicago. I know what that feels like.

1162
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: And as a friend, you support somebody that does that.

1163
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: So for me, I was very supportive of him. Fast

1164
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: forward to when he came back. Man, God bless dead,

1165
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: we had we had to go to my agent, our agent,

1166
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: you know, Henry Thomas's funeral, and after the funeral, you know,

1167
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: deep mid way to now on the on the plane

1168
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: and we're just talking man, and you know, I'm just

1169
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: telling him, you know, we we we got we we

1170
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: we gotta finish you know what this ship how we started.

1171
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: We gotta finish it. We gotta finish it, you know, Hank,

1172
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 1: we want us to finish it. Um. You know, it's

1173
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: just you know, if you come to Miami and you

1174
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: just seeing you understand, you understand the impact that you

1175
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: were able to have on the next generation as well

1176
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: as what I'm able to have because you will play,

1177
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: they'll put you out there, so you impact would go

1178
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: even further than mind. Um. And you know, we all

1179
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: men and the way laughing, we joke about it. But man,

1180
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 1: maybe he hain't heard that conversation from upstairs. Man, because

1181
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: literally about two weeks later, Um, you know, the way

1182
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: it was moved to move down to Miami was traded

1183
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: from Cleveland down in Miami. And I think that was

1184
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: a reservation for you know, our team, and I think

1185
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: that was a reservation for him. You know, things didn't

1186
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: go the way he wanted it to go in Cleveland,

1187
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: you know, or Chicago. Um. And I think that was

1188
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: also a resuration for me, man, because you know, I

1189
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: was probably on my way out man, And it had

1190
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: nothing to do with the heat, but you know, for me,

1191
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,479
Speaker 1: it just wasn't as fun anymore, you know what I'm saying.

1192
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: And I think that my brother brought that back to

1193
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: me up take us back, Um, the Big Three comes

1194
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 1: to Miami. What was your reaction when you heard it

1195
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: was official that Lebron and Bosh was coming on y'all ship.

1196
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 1: I was on my way out of here and ain't

1197
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: had that money, right, Yea, I ain't had that money, right.

1198
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,280
Speaker 1: I ain't like I a as much as I lovething

1199
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: about what was going on, the part that I didn't like.

1200
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: They had my money right and I was on my

1201
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: way out. You know what I'm saying, And that's no

1202
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: knock on the heat. You know what I'm saying. You

1203
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: gotta salary cap, you gotta make your decision. You gotta

1204
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: do what you gotta do. So I hit the way

1205
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: like yo, you know what I'm saying. Once again, as brothers,

1206
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: you support your brother Yo. I love you boy. Y'all

1207
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: got a chance to do something special. I'm out of here.

1208
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm on the e Way driving Bentley. I never forget

1209
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: because many way got match with Bentley's Um. You know

1210
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: when we won our first championship, you know. So I'm

1211
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: on the way in the Bentley Man and uh. I

1212
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: get off the expressway and I get a call from

1213
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: my agent, UM and he said, you know, uh what,

1214
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 1: uh what what? You get ready to pull in? I say, yeah,

1215
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: I'm right, I'm I'm righting it from the arena. I'm

1216
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: about to pull in and say, wait five minutes, don't

1217
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: go in yet. So I pulled him to the outside

1218
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: of the arena. I wait five minutes, and he called

1219
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: me back he said, all right, you can go in.

1220
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: So now I'm thinking I'm walking into tell Pat thank you,

1221
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, I'll love you. But I ain't playing

1222
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 1: for no minimum right now. I'm in my prime. I

1223
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: can't do that. Now. I've taken pay cuts, but I

1224
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: ain't no damn food. So at that time, I'm ain't

1225
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: every way to tell a Pat that I'm out here.

1226
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,479
Speaker 1: My agent car, he said, going, I go on with Pat,

1227
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: my agent on the phone. The way he got on

1228
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: the phone with Bron CB, he figured it out. He

1229
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: took a little less. Bron and CB took a little less.

1230
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: They made a little little cut for me. I think

1231
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: we got it to like twenty um. I think I

1232
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: had thirty on the table. Um. So it was a

1233
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: timmy and dollar pay cut. But for the opportunity to

1234
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: ring another championship to the crib, to play with those

1235
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: dudes and understand what my role was. You know what

1236
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I understood my role. Let's take nothing away

1237
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: from their greatness. But once again, you need somebody to

1238
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 1: change the oil, and the mother for the car ain't going,

1239
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I understood what my

1240
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: role would be and that was unique to everything that

1241
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: was brought together to that. You know what I'm saying,

1242
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: That gumbo. That part of gumbo. When you talk about CB,

1243
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, When you talk about Brown,

1244
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: when you talk about the way you talk about me,

1245
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: that's gumbo right there. Man. It's all different flavors and

1246
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: spices and personalities and egos. And I understood there was

1247
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: nothing like me in that park, you know what I'm saying.

1248
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: So I understood what I could bring to that, and

1249
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: you know, I just felt like it was the right

1250
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: thing to do. I never made decisions based on money

1251
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: that ain't high moved. You know what I'm saying. I

1252
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 1: gotta be it, gotta be what I feel. You gotta

1253
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: be what I want to do. Shout out to them

1254
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 1: dudes for doing that though that's happened. You know a

1255
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: few times where I remember Gilbert did that for somebody

1256
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: and that was dope. They did that for you. Um.

1257
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: You know, on paper, you guys look like the team

1258
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: and and and ship. In real life, you guys look

1259
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: like the team. How difficult was it getting everybody on

1260
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: the same page, because I mean, those are guys everyone

1261
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: is used to be in a star. You know, d

1262
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: Wade is a star, Braun is a star, Bosh is

1263
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: a star. You're a star in your role? How was

1264
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: it getting those three, uh and the rest of the

1265
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: team to kind of understand what it was? And the

1266
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: hardest thing was getting dude is not to step on

1267
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: each other toes. And nobody wanted to step on nobody toes.

1268
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Nobody wanted to be too

1269
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: aggressive and be a ballhog. Everybody wanted to make share,

1270
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: everybody get comfortable. Meanwhile, ain't nobody getting comfortable, you know saying?

1271
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: So I think that's the hardest thing was, you know

1272
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, just getting everybody to adjust it, just

1273
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: being yourself and then we'll figure it out from there. Um.

1274
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: You know, once we got everybody to be theirselves, then

1275
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: the next hardest thing was for the role players. You know,

1276
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 1: how can we impact this? Your ass might get three shots,

1277
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: You might get three and you got it. Might it

1278
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: could be the biggest three of the night. It could

1279
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: be the double team. He got the spread of your

1280
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: ass in the corner. You ain't shot in thirty minutes.

1281
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: You better make this one. So as a role player,

1282
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: you're expected to make this one. Ain't nobody looking at

1283
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: you saying, oh, he don't get those shots. He ain't

1284
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: got a shot if your ass is open for the

1285
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 1: game when the people expecting you to make it so

1286
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: as a role player, you know, how do we adjust

1287
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: to being in this role of you know, understanding that

1288
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: opportunities might come fuming fine between, but we still gotta

1289
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: make our shots. We can't wind about it, and we

1290
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: still gotta impact winning some shape from a fashion or

1291
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 1: on the business side. Yeahsses out of here right, you

1292
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They ain't gonna move the Big three.

1293
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: They're gonna move your ass. But people don't understand you.

1294
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: People don't understand you tossed out of earlier. Obviously Jack

1295
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: got the green light. But people like me and you,

1296
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes we would get five shots and when

1297
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta make at least two of their

1298
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: motherfucker's you know, I mean, you get seven shots, you

1299
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: gotta hit at least three or four. And that's the

1300
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: kind of outside of all the dirty work we did,

1301
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: we always had to keep that out of our mind, like, oh,

1302
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: should I miss my first three? I got in the

1303
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: next one. You know what I mean, like, you put

1304
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: that pressure on yourself and sometimes that ship is hard

1305
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: to play under, but you know you're able to embrace it,

1306
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: internalize it, and understand it and make it work. But

1307
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: it's a big difference knowing that I'm gonna get five shots,

1308
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna get fifteen or twenty shots, and I

1309
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: know I can start off over five and still have

1310
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: a good night. You start off for five, You're in trouble. Yo.

1311
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, and it's gonna be serious,

1312
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be games where teams are gonna scheme

1313
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: to make them ball find you because they know that

1314
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: motherfucker's like you ain't like, they know you ain't getting

1315
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: fifteen twenty shots in the game. They know you want

1316
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: to get four or five shots, so they're gonna make

1317
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: sure your ads get twenty and say, make him beat us.

1318
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: They want make him beat us, make him beat us.

1319
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:58,919
Speaker 1: You've been, You've been a situation like that. The whole

1320
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 1: Indiana series. People at the in the end the series,

1321
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: how I how I shot the ball and how I

1322
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: played against Indiana motherfucker's they just they said, make has

1323
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 1: them beat us. Like you know what I'm saying, I

1324
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: just was prepared for the moment. You know what I'm saying,

1325
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 1: Stay my ash ready, stay ready, so you ain't gotta

1326
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: get ready. I was in the gym, so two games straight,

1327
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: I went eight for nine. I wasn't shoot no goddamn

1328
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I wasn't like I was

1329
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: shooting all contested shots. A couple of was contested, but

1330
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: for the most part, they said, make him beat us.

1331
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 1: I wasn't a guy that was accustomed to getting nine

1332
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: twelve shots a game. I was a guy that was

1333
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: accustomed to getting five six shots a game. And in

1334
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: that game, they said, make him beat us. And they

1335
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: put me in a position they have to make shots.

1336
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: And I was able to make shots, and I can

1337
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: make shots. But that's not always the case. Man, when

1338
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: you got to get four or five shots. Man, you

1339
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: could be put in a situation where you took four shots.

1340
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: But you gotta make the motherfucking money shot. You gotta

1341
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: make the money shot, no matter what, no excuse what.

1342
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: You guys get off to a slow start, um in

1343
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: that first season, What what turned you guys around? I

1344
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: got hurt. That was a tough year for me. Man.

1345
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: My mom's passed away. I got arrested on some buds shit.

1346
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: I got. It's always some bullshit when you get arrested, right,

1347
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: I got it always fitted, you always followed up. But

1348
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: I got arrested on some bullshit. But I got arrested

1349
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: on some bullshit. Man, my mom's passed away, and then

1350
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: I got hurt. You know, I told I told my third,

1351
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: fourth and fifth metatarso Um playing against Memphis man Garden,

1352
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: you gotta keep you gotta move your feet guarding Zebo.

1353
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: Shout out Zebra, another real one. Moving my feet trying

1354
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: to get around Zebo because Zebo, see you hes gonna

1355
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: jump this high and your asses Grass, it's a bucket.

1356
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: You can forget about it. So I'm moving my feet

1357
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: trying to get around Zebo. And I told my third,

1358
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: fourth and fifth matter tarso Man. So I missed the

1359
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: whole season, never never even heard of a list Frank injury.

1360
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know what the hell that was. So I

1361
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: spent that whole summer. I'm not that some of that

1362
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: whole season just researching my injury. And I was able

1363
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: to come back during the playoffs. And you know, that's

1364
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: why a lot of people remember that series that I

1365
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: had acaut Chicago. UM. The first game back was against Boston,

1366
00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: but we were to take care of Boston series with

1367
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: at me UM. But they needed me in the Chicago series.

1368
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: That's when Chicago had Joe Kim, they had Boozer, they

1369
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: had Todd Gibson. They was young and they were stronger front.

1370
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: They were beating the ship out of us on the buys. Man.

1371
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: So I had to come back in that series. And

1372
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: you know, thank god, man, I was able to, you know,

1373
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: impact winning once again. You just impact winning, man, Yes, sir.

1374
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: So you guys make your first run in eleven, UM

1375
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: lose to Dallas. What did you guys learn about yourself

1376
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: during that time? We had work to do, man, we

1377
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: had work to do. Um. You know they they mean

1378
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: something simple as a and I mean don't take nothing

1379
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: away from you know, Dallas at all, but something simple

1380
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: as a zone. They really hit us with his own

1381
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: They really hit us with his own dog. We could

1382
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: not figure out a damn zone. I mean, as great

1383
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: of as great as a team we were at that time,

1384
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: as great as basketball minds as we had, we had

1385
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: no answer for their own And obviously, you know they

1386
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: were a great offensive team. You know, Um, they were

1387
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: able to sco points when we weren't UM and I

1388
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: think that really, you know, bothered bron. I think that

1389
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: summer UM, that's when we were able to play Brian

1390
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: a lot of different areas and he was able to

1391
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 1: be a playmaker from a lot of different places on

1392
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: the basketball court for us. And I think people saw,

1393
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: you know, a new um, you know, a new focus

1394
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: you know from Brian, you know going into that next season.

1395
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: But you know they literally just really put his own

1396
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: on that. So we couldn't get a bucket. And once again,

1397
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: I love dirt, shout out the dirt. But if you

1398
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: look at the numbers the NVP that series with Jason Terry,

1399
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it eight one with you. You. I

1400
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: ain't gonna tell people what they want to hear. I'm

1401
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: gonna tell people were really happening, right the NVP of

1402
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: that series with Jason Terry. You go look at the numbers.

1403
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: It's not I'm speaking facts here. You look at Jason

1404
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,439
Speaker 1: Terry's with every MVP of that series. Man, he told

1405
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: I asked up, he killed us. I was with the Lakers.

1406
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: They swept us on and ended up playing you guys.

1407
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: But I remember one game at ten or eleven threes.

1408
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: He was hot that whole playoffs. Cooking told, he told,

1409
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: I asked up, but he had to because remember, you

1410
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: gotta think that motherfucker got the championship trophy tattoo earlier

1411
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: that year, so he definitely had the back ship up.

1412
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: He got it before the States even started one, didn't

1413
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: he Yeah, yeah, but he but he backed the ship up.

1414
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: You gotta respect it. And J. J. Burrell J J.

1415
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 1: Barrell played well off the bench, but the m v

1416
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: P of that series with Jason Terry Man, he told,

1417
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: we had no answer him. You know, I was able

1418
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: to do my thing on dirt. He made shots, He

1419
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: had a couple of decent games, but you know, nothing crazy.

1420
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: But you know what we couldn't account for was what

1421
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: Jason Terry was doing to us. What changes when it

1422
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: twelve that made you guys ready to taking that step? Man?

1423
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: How happy people was we lost? Damn? I ain't never

1424
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: seen no ship like that before. What we did to people.

1425
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: I don't understand why everybody and this I love Golden

1426
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: Statement for what they're doing, but why everybody loved them

1427
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: but they hated us? I think real quick because I

1428
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: was gonna ask you too, and I forgot. I think

1429
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: that it pissed everyone off when in the introductions with

1430
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: the teams came together and they were talking about how

1431
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: many championships And I was gonna ask you that because,

1432
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: like I said, you guys are always you know, d

1433
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: Wade was loved, You was love Miami was a fun team.

1434
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: You guys became villains, you know when when the Big

1435
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: Three was formed? And how was that? I want to

1436
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: ask why? I wanted to ask how was that for

1437
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: you guys? Because none of you guys have really ever

1438
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 1: been bad guys, but you guys were painted and as crazy.

1439
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: You said that everyone was excited. You guys lost. Man,

1440
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: I tell people this all the time, man Like, it's

1441
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: all about how you deal with it. Man, if you're real,

1442
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: when you can handle it, if you solve, you can't.

1443
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: There's a Lebron James effect when he comes to your team,

1444
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: there is. And if you if you solve mentally, you

1445
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: can't handle it. You know what I'm saying. People ain't

1446
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: gonna like your teams. People probably gonna want you to lose.

1447
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: There's gonna be expectations to win. You're gonna be expected

1448
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: to take and make big shots. You're gonna fail. Sometimes

1449
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna have some sleepless night. Sometimes that's all part

1450
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: of striving to be a great That's all part of

1451
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: when it's when you're trying to get a championship, that's

1452
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: part of when you're playing with the greatest player in

1453
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: the game right now. You know what I'm saying. When

1454
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: you're playing with the greatest player in the game, there's affectations,

1455
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And everybody can't deal with that.

1456
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So you know I mean

1457
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: for us, we I just had We had to figure

1458
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: it out. Man, Like I said, it will sleep as nice.

1459
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, figuring out how cannot impact

1460
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: this team. How can I be a part of this

1461
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: winning process. You know what I'm saying. You gotta be

1462
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: You gotta be a supporting cast for the dude. They're

1463
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: gonna do their job every night. They're gonna do their

1464
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: job every night, and now you gotta do your job, man.

1465
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: So you know that that was just the hardest part.

1466
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: But the little twelve man Eddie house. You know what

1467
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Mike Miller, You know what I'm saying, James Jones,

1468
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: you know myself. I mean, the list goes on and on,

1469
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: and those guys shot Sean Lewis. You know what I'm saying,

1470
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: shout out the shot another real one. We kept each

1471
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: other same man. We pushed each other every day. We

1472
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: played pickup man, and we understood that value on that team.

1473
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: And shout out to the Big three. D way braun

1474
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: cbeat them. Dues also understood that value. And that's another

1475
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: thing man for the superstars out here today. Man, you

1476
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Just showing value and love to

1477
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: your teammates that do the early work. You know what

1478
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying, The guys setting the screens for ya, the

1479
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: ones that get the rebound, the one that's gonna take

1480
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: that take for you, the one that's gonna take that

1481
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: take for you, because you know you ain't like that,

1482
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: that right, show him showing him love. Hey, I got

1483
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: a lot of those motherfucking texts. Goddamnito, motherfucker's wasn't like that. Yeah,

1484
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: he got your back because you ain't like that. No

1485
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: doubt on you guys. Final run in two thousand and

1486
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 1: twelve to get in your first championship, What was the

1487
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference Finals battles like because Boston Miami. You know,

1488
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 1: Boston had success against Braun and Cleveland, and you know

1489
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people say that's why he went and

1490
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 1: did what he did. What were those games like in

1491
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: that Eastern Conference Finals? Obviously bronze game six stands out

1492
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: when he had forty five and then the closed out game,

1493
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: But what was that intensity like between the Celtics and

1494
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: you guys that still last to day, It's still it's

1495
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: still in the dog it is, man. And then I

1496
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: tell you the only reason they got squashed with the

1497
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: way they rode because they played together in Chicago. See,

1498
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: they had to call you this. You know what I'm saying.

1499
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: But if you look at like a lot of the

1500
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: comments that Paul Pierce makes, you know what I'm saying

1501
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: from you know the position he's in now, I don't

1502
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: know him say too much good ship about Brown. Ain't

1503
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: gonna say too much good about Brown. You know what

1504
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying. When I look at the position here and

1505
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: I hear him talking about the way and he said

1506
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: some crazy ship trying to hear compare careers, I'm like, man,

1507
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: come on, man, what is you doing? Man? Like? Why

1508
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 1: are you you tripping? You know what I'm saying. I

1509
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 1: got great respect for what KG has done as a

1510
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,479
Speaker 1: basketball player. How he'd be talking out there. I don't

1511
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 1: play like that, nobody, do you know what I'm saying.

1512
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: I don't play like that. So and so, I don't know.

1513
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:41,919
Speaker 1: We might be sixty years old in the grocery store

1514
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: and might have to get it on at something like

1515
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: you talking by like you feel me like, I don't

1516
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: play like that, man, you feel me so like, I

1517
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: don't know if that should ever gonna be over. I

1518
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: got respectful him, But that ship is still out there.

1519
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: Look how they can't When Ray came for us, they

1520
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: came for Ray. That out out of that man. We

1521
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: beat you with Ray and then took it from me

1522
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 1: and beat you again. You know what I'm saying. Let

1523
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 1: that ship go. We got kids now, we for it.

1524
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:11,439
Speaker 1: Like I said, I got more time behind me. They're

1525
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: not do in front of me. And that ship still

1526
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 1: out there still in the head like I said, I

1527
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 1: ain't looking for that beef is still real. Still it's there. Man.

1528
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: I'm just like, man, come on, man, come on, I'm like,

1529
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: come on, Paul man, that ship you were saying about Brian.

1530
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:25,479
Speaker 1: That ship don't even make no sense. Man. You gotta

1531
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: get credit with credit, dude, Man, you gotta get credit

1532
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: with credit is due, Yes, exactly. But they pushed us

1533
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: like no other and I'm gonna get them credit to

1534
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 1: that man. They pushed us like no other. Man were

1535
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: we were scared of Boston. Not scared like shaking it out, boots,

1536
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: but we were. We were threatened. Boston was a threat.

1537
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: Boston was a threat they were. I don't give a

1538
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: damn what you did defensively, come out of time out,

1539
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: Dart Rubles, gonna get somebody a shot. Yeah, Boston was

1540
01:06:52,400 --> 01:07:01,919
Speaker 1: a threat. Brow twelve NBA Finals, he visits thunder. Take

1541
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: us back to that matchup in the young Katie Russ

1542
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,919
Speaker 1: and James harden Man. That might have been the first

1543
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: time we ever lost the game and being confident, and

1544
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: that was nothing against them, but we just understood that

1545
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: if we played a more mentally aware basketball game, um,

1546
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 1: that we could we could win that series. We lost

1547
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: Game one and okay see, and we walked in the

1548
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: locker room and said ourselves that we're gonna be all right. Um.

1549
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: And they were young, you know what I'm saying. They

1550
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: had a lot of growing to do. I think the

1551
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: advantage that we had was just the mental part, and

1552
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: I think we we we we used that. We used

1553
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: it as much as we could, you know what I'm saying.

1554
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 1: We trapped James Harden on every pick and roll, you know,

1555
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: on the side, and he read a lot of flats

1556
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: for him to come off the sideline in his left hand.

1557
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: As mobile as I was at that time, it was

1558
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 1: so easy for me just to trap his ass on

1559
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: that sideline, you know what I'm saying. So we were

1560
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: able to get the ball out of his hands. We

1561
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: understood that Russell was gonna do what he could do.

1562
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: We understood that Katie was gonna do what he was

1563
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: gonna do. I main focus in that series was to

1564
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: stop James Harden, and I think you know that's that's

1565
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: why we were able to be successful. We was able

1566
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: to take him out of that series by no fart

1567
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: of his own. We just trapped his ass every time.

1568
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: That's what we should like. Yeah, he was the focus. Man.

1569
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 1: You gotta get credit to what credit due to our

1570
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 1: coaches that man, we could have focused on trying to

1571
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: stop everybody that was that was supposed to be playing y'all.

1572
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,600
Speaker 1: That supposed to be us playing y'all. They beat us

1573
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: in the Western Conference finals. I saw that. I saw that.

1574
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: I remember that. I remember that. They beat you all down.

1575
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 1: They what y'all take them now? We want We won

1576
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 1: the first two and they want fall straight after that. Yeah,

1577
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 1: so they called what hey, what we call it? We

1578
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 1: call that a sweet gentleman sweep, a gentleman, sweet nice

1579
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 1: to me, take care of hey. So you d you

1580
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: talked about the Lebron James effect, you guys help him

1581
01:08:58,160 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 1: get his first ring? What was that experience like for

1582
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: you guys? I was happy for him. Man. I got

1583
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 1: close to brown Man because so many people have so

1584
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 1: much hate in their Harford Bron And I remember who

1585
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 1: was out in the restaurant one time. Man, we're eating

1586
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: as a team and somebody walked by and was like

1587
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 1: Lebron James. And he turned and looked and he was

1588
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: like fuck you. And I was like, fuck you right

1589
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: right for me. For me, that made me one and

1590
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 1: that that this mother game no, Brian Brownie said, none

1591
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 1: of this man ain't bothering this man. That made me

1592
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 1: want to be close to to Bron. That that made

1593
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: me say, man, I see what this man go through

1594
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 1: every day and have it, and I'm a damn show

1595
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 1: have his back no matter what, through hell the hot wood.

1596
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: He could call on me, because that's the bullshit he

1597
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: gotta deal with every day. Nobody don't deserve that. You

1598
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 1: don't even know this man. You better than me, broncs

1599
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 1: out of sight up shade his ass straight right up,

1600
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: straight up. That's funny. I had a similar situation with Cole,

1601
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: and Cole was the only player that used to He

1602
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 1: was the only person that paid my funds when I

1603
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: got into some ship for him. The only person got

1604
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 1: rested soul to my dog. But I didn't took up

1605
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: for a lot of motherfucker's. The only player to pay

1606
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 1: my fine when they came to him was called that

1607
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 1: ship was that ship meant a lot to me. And

1608
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 1: they don't understand that goes a long way man, and

1609
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 1: the way in the same thing we do way. Man.

1610
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 1: He when I when I had my situation with Handsborough, man,

1611
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,679
Speaker 1: he was the first one that the you know, handle

1612
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: that situation. And now I didn't take it, but you know,

1613
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 1: he offered and I was like, na, you know, we're good,

1614
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:22,600
Speaker 1: my boy. You know they't come back around. That's so

1615
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: the following summer, Ray Alan comes and joined you guys, Um,

1616
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 1: how did that whole situation happen? Oh? Man, all I

1617
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 1: remember just picking up the paper reading that Ray was

1618
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: coming to Miami. Man, I was shocked, you know, after

1619
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: just playing against him in Boston and the relationship that

1620
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 1: he had with those people in Boston. I was shocked.

1621
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: But then our hood having asked, right, but then but

1622
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: then hey, but then I read but once again, once

1623
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 1: I once you started to read, you know what they're

1624
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: saying in the papers, and you know what they're saying

1625
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,600
Speaker 1: about the situation, then it just makes Ray one of

1626
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: your brothers even faster, you know what I'm saying, because

1627
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 1: now he wants us and they're coming from him. Whether

1628
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 1: I know what's going on or not, he with us

1629
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: not you feel like, well, I know what happened. And hey,

1630
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: even though you ain't laying the ship, you over here

1631
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 1: with us now, so we gotta protect your ass. Yeah,

1632
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 1: your ship is my ship. Now you get explaining to me.

1633
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: Maybe your ship is my ship now. Maybe you can

1634
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: explain to me what happened later, but right now, we

1635
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 1: gotta deal with this. And then when Ray came that

1636
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 1: before I even spoke to Y even knew anything about Ray.

1637
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: I just was reading the articles, and you know, everybody

1638
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: was upset and frustrated with Ray and now and that

1639
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 1: made me he want us. I ain't even met Ray yet.

1640
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: Ray with me, Ray with me, I don't that's that

1641
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,759
Speaker 1: mentality you need it. So we've been you know, throughout

1642
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: this this process, you got a chance to play with

1643
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 1: a lot of great players, win championships, very selfless team. First,

1644
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 1: November twenty one, two thousand twelve, you become the Heats

1645
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 1: all time leading rebounder. How much did that mean to you?

1646
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 1: That gotta go to funk that that gotta mean a lot, bro,

1647
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: You know all the Hall of Fame centers and play

1648
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: for this goddamn team and you're a little shot asked

1649
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: it's the all time to leave rebounding my nigger. Definitely

1650
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 1: definitely a show that the rest of the motherfucker's that definitely, man,

1651
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: You know what, you know what I've learned to start doing,

1652
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 1: man as I got older in my career. Take time

1653
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 1: to appreciate this ship, though, Take time to appreciate this ship, dog,

1654
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 1: because man, I kept my head down working so much. Man,

1655
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 1: and I never really took time to appreciate myself man,

1656
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 1: or appreciate the things that I've had time to accomplish.

1657
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 1: And you always say to yourself, one day it's gonna

1658
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 1: be over, and I'm gonna sit back and look at

1659
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 1: it and appreciate it. But you don't know when this

1660
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna be over forever, forever. You might not get

1661
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 1: up in them talk. You might have a situation you

1662
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 1: might not get out of. So you can't keep pushing

1663
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 1: back those opportunities to celebrate yourself. Man. You can't keep

1664
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 1: pushing back to my opportunities to be in tune with

1665
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 1: your star player, bro, because you don't know how much

1666
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 1: time you got out here. Man. So at that time

1667
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: I regret it, but I didn't celebrate it like I

1668
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: should have. But now the person I am now and

1669
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 1: where I am in my life today, yeah, I appreciate

1670
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: the hell out of I appreciate the hell out of

1671
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: it because I wasn't out there. It wasn't supposed to happen.

1672
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 1: We talked about Alonzo Morning, who was a Hall of Famer.

1673
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I broke his records and

1674
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 1: then I get a chance. They have these young dudes

1675
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 1: telling me, Man, they're gonna come from my record, man,

1676
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 1: and that's motivation for them. So now I'm just motivating

1677
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:14,719
Speaker 1: the next generation. All Bam talking about is breaking my record.

1678
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 1: I tell Bama if I get it, I tell Bama,

1679
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 1: if I get in the game and grab one rebound,

1680
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 1: that's another record you gotta chase. Mother, just all another record,

1681
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 1: well that you gotta chase it. You kept talking, sir,

1682
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:28,600
Speaker 1: hey real quick since you brought up Bam and then

1683
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 1: we'll get back to this. How tall is Bam Man?

1684
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 1: About a good six nine six teen? Is that big? Yeah?

1685
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 1: He looks he looks small around this year. I wonder

1686
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 1: how big he was. Yeah, yeah, he won't be. He's

1687
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:46,719
Speaker 1: no taller than six nine. I'm gonna give him sixteen.

1688
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 1: He's about six d six jumping board too. Alright, back,

1689
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 1: so two thousand thirteen, you guys are going from back

1690
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 1: to backs. You guys have a twenty seven game winning streak.

1691
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: What kind of group for y'all in y'all was on

1692
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: another plan of but inside your guys locker room, in

1693
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 1: your world? What what was y'all on at that time? Man?

1694
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 1: We was? We was? Everybody knew they roll you didn't

1695
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: have to think about what you remember. I tell you

1696
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 1: that first year, but you don't know how many shots

1697
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 1: with you was gonna get when it was gonna come.

1698
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 1: We was. Everybody was in tune with they roll. I

1699
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 1: was playing the first and the third. I was starting

1700
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 1: off the game. I played at the first six minutes

1701
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 1: or something like that, and then I come back in.

1702
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: I played like first six seven minutes. I come back

1703
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 1: in at the end of the second, I started third. Like,

1704
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 1: everybody was settling into their role. It wasn't no jerking.

1705
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: You were in and out of the rotation and all that.

1706
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: So everybody was settling into their role. Man. We were

1707
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 1: just we were just in his zone. I think the

1708
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:37,560
Speaker 1: one thing about that twenty seven game win streak is

1709
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 1: that everything became about the guy Street. Everything became about

1710
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 1: the street, man. I mean, the smallest games became about

1711
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 1: the street. The biggest games became about the street. We're

1712
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 1: going to lunch, it's about the street, you know what

1713
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Everything came about the street. Everything became about

1714
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: the street, bro. And I think it just it warned

1715
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:00,080
Speaker 1: us mentally and shout out to Chicago for break and

1716
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:01,560
Speaker 1: that ship. You know what, I'm saying, they beat the

1717
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and that that had nothing

1718
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 1: to do with us, you know what I'm saying, being

1719
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: mentally fatigued about the street. Yeah, warned us, but you

1720
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 1: still step out on the floor and the game played

1721
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,600
Speaker 1: in between the lines, and we went into Chicago and

1722
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 1: they beat their ass. We tried to turn it on

1723
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: that the end, but we couldn't do it. I remember

1724
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 1: hearing and reading you know, since you said, you know,

1725
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 1: everyone will kind of struggle the first year, not stepping

1726
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 1: on each other's toes. That the way kind of handed

1727
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: the keys to Braun, and I think that free everyone

1728
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: else's minds up. Speak to that. Yeah, he did that,

1729
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 1: he told him. I remember that, Hey man, listen, this

1730
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 1: is your team. I remember that. I'm not sure, um

1731
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: at what point of the season, but I remember in

1732
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 1: the locker room the way standing over to Brown, he said,

1733
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 1: it's your team, and I figured out, you know what

1734
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And I think that was a huge, huge

1735
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 1: confidence boosts for Braun, you know what I'm saying, because

1736
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 1: once again we got three great players. Three great players. Um.

1737
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people don't really get

1738
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 1: Chris Bosh credit he deserved from that team for what

1739
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 1: for what he was able to do. Talking about the

1740
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 1: cold motherfucker m he was cold. She he was cold. Yeah,

1741
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 1: I don't understand that. You talk about patient, you talk

1742
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 1: about you know what I'm saying, That's the first time

1743
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 1: I ever seeing somebody with jab your ass untill they

1744
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 1: get the shot they want. He will jab your ass

1745
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 1: till he get the shot. He won't. And if you

1746
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: fall asleep, hand down, man down that CB all day

1747
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: because that job is money. And then when you talk

1748
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,719
Speaker 1: about when you started flaring back to the three, people

1749
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 1: don't know there was games but Braun and the way

1750
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 1: they ain't playing, Step could go for thirty or five

1751
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 1: and we will still win. He was that guy, you

1752
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I mean to play with

1753
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: those that that calible of talent, and to compete against

1754
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: those guys every day, you can't help but raise your standards. Man,

1755
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 1: that's dope. So the thirteen, you guys hit the Eastern

1756
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 1: Conference Finals and I have a tough seven game series

1757
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 1: against the young Paul George Lands blowing in bronze ear

1758
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 1: d way Roy Hibbert. Take us back to that series

1759
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: because I think if I'm not mistaken. Wasn't that the

1760
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 1: series that PG dunked on Bert Man? Yeah, they bang them, man,

1761
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm bikes bird my guy. I want to talk about

1762
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 1: that he speak shout out birth for real. But that's

1763
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: one of the coolest white boys I've ever been my

1764
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:14,560
Speaker 1: whole time in life. But I got a chance to

1765
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 1: play with him in Memphis. That dude is so fucking

1766
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 1: cool Man, great guy, great my dog, my dog Man,

1767
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 1: bird Man. Them dudes was tough. Man. It was tough

1768
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 1: man in that year. People don't know that they got

1769
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 1: I think home court advantage the first year we had it.

1770
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:34,560
Speaker 1: The next year they had it. So we had to

1771
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 1: go in today place. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,

1772
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: it was a tough place to play at that time.

1773
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: It was a tough place to play at that time.

1774
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 1: And they were ready for us the second time. But

1775
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 1: what they weren't ready for was the same dumbass game

1776
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 1: playing leave has them open. I don't understand why you

1777
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 1: thought that ship was gonna work. If it ain't work

1778
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 1: the year before, why you thought that ship was gonna

1779
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 1: work next year? Like, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1780
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 1: and you see what happened. You see what happened. And

1781
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 1: I don't even and I didn't even play that much

1782
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 1: that series, man, I didn't. Man. My thing was to

1783
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: come in and rebound and play defense. Um, Shane, I think,

1784
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, that's when they figured out that

1785
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 1: Shane was a little bit undersized and David West going

1786
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 1: to work down now, so I was actually called in

1787
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 1: to play at that time. We went into that series

1788
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 1: playing small ball. We went into that series playing with

1789
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 1: Shane at the four. Once again, you never know when

1790
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 1: your numbers called, man, stay ready, so you got so

1791
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 1: you all gotta get ready. We went into that series

1792
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 1: playing small ball, and Shane started at the four. And

1793
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 1: to combat that, Indiana went to the post on Shane

1794
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 1: with David West. We know David West big down there,

1795
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,600
Speaker 1: got work, yeah, and he got work down there, you

1796
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I moved to come back.

1797
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 1: That was to bring me in off the bench. And

1798
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 1: now Shane goes on from playing and playing every game

1799
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: and starting to not playing at all, and now I'm

1800
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,640
Speaker 1: playing every game and starting and playing the mins. And

1801
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 1: to these young fellers out here being professional, you never know, Yeah,

1802
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:04,839
Speaker 1: it's gonna be called in playoffs or whatever the situation.

1803
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 1: Maybe I ain't even played the series before at all.

1804
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 1: He was playing small ball the very next series. They

1805
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 1: come back that and bring Shane down to the post

1806
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:14,640
Speaker 1: and go to go to work. Now I gotta come

1807
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 1: in and I gotta be ready. No, nobody want to

1808
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 1: hear he didn't play the last series. You nobody don't

1809
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 1: want to hear he ain't in rhythm. They up and

1810
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 1: played the same scheme or offense, and that like they

1811
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: asked up again. But at the end of the day,

1812
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I didn't know. I wasn't even play that series. Yeah,

1813
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 1: but that's that, that's that. It's crazy you said that,

1814
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 1: because that's what I tried to teach, you know, coaching

1815
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 1: my kids that are twelve years old. You know, I

1816
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 1: could teach you everything, but if I if you learn anything,

1817
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 1: I want you to know how mental this motherfucking game is.

1818
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:48,799
Speaker 1: Man so mental to not being able to not playing

1819
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 1: in the series. You know, all you can as players,

1820
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: we can't wait to get the playoffs, so to not play,

1821
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 1: to stay mentally sharp and still put your work and

1822
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 1: still stay prepared, and men, like you said, go from

1823
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: not playing to get a majority of the minutes next

1824
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 1: round and still be effective at your job. Man, that

1825
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 1: ship is mental. And then shout out to Shane too,

1826
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 1: because I know he took it like a chance. You know,

1827
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: he's a team player, so he did what he had

1828
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 1: to do to stay ready. But that ship is as

1829
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: a mental grind boy next year because he came back

1830
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 1: the next series and and and gets San Antonio shot

1831
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 1: shot shot well, you know I'm saying, shot, Well, you

1832
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He shot really well, and you

1833
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So he came back when his

1834
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 1: time was called, his number was called, he came back

1835
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 1: and he did his job. You know what I'm saying.

1836
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 1: Me and Shane had we had a great one. We

1837
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 1: had a special handshake and uh we say strengthening. We

1838
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 1: shid stay strengthening on it to each other, strengthening on him. Man,

1839
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,640
Speaker 1: every night. That what's up. That's what services. It's for

1840
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 1: the greater good. So we get to two thousand and thirteen,

1841
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals against the San Antonio Spurs epic series.

1842
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 1: Looking back on that, now, what stood out the most

1843
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 1: to you? Oh man, pop man, pop pops amazing. Ain't

1844
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 1: even that's not a take, That's not taken nothing away

1845
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 1: from the town. But damn, man, Pop is amazing. You

1846
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know, I know, you know,

1847
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 1: you know. I don't know if in this league how

1848
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 1: to work how I work. You supposed to give shout

1849
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 1: out to other coaches if you ain't playing from I

1850
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 1: don't know how that ship work. But were on all

1851
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 1: the smokes, So we make y'all boys make the rules.

1852
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 1: Y'all boys make the rules. I ain't on TNT and

1853
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 1: none now all good pop Pop Pops amazing man, and

1854
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 1: I've always had great admiration for the way he's been

1855
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 1: able to not just coach the game in basketball, but

1856
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 1: manage just players in the personality. Man, dude, the dudes

1857
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 1: love him, you know what I'm saying. And I've always

1858
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 1: been amazed by the way Pop Pop has been able

1859
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 1: to manage all of that translate that ship also into winning,

1860
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 1: because none of that ship matters. If you don't win,

1861
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: you don't matter if your team like you, it don't matter,

1862
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 1: none of that ship if you ain't winning, you know

1863
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I've always been amazed with what

1864
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 1: Pop been able to do. So you know, just the

1865
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 1: first thing that stands out in that series is just

1866
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:55,600
Speaker 1: a ball movement, man, and just how Pop out the

1867
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: motherfucker's prime. You know what I'm saying. They're ready and

1868
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 1: it's just like a well or machine out there. You

1869
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Ain't no hiccups, ain't no speed bumps,

1870
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:08,640
Speaker 1: that ship running. Everybody buying end. Yeah, yeah, everybody buying in.

1871
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 1: But Jack, you were supposed to or should have been

1872
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 1: playing in that final, so not mistaken, right T tell us,

1873
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 1: uh tell us your Tea Max story during that time. Yeah,

1874
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 1: I would probably got that rebound all to block the

1875
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 1: ship out of that week as three race shot. But

1876
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 1: h but he but I was. I was supposed to

1877
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 1: be on the team, and Pop cut me right for

1878
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Man, he cut me right for the playoffs.

1879
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:34,679
Speaker 1: He put me in the position Pop want. The smartest

1880
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 1: people I ever know, He put them in the position

1881
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 1: to where he knew I was gonna respond to where

1882
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 1: I was gonna seek off the team. Yeah, he knew that.

1883
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 1: He knew I was gonna cut myself. You asked me

1884
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,719
Speaker 1: to say somebody better than me, fuck you and everybody

1885
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 1: around you. That's gonna be my response to anybody. Okay,

1886
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 1: I like that to nobody, and Pop knew but they

1887
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 1: but but but before he even asked me that question,

1888
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 1: they had Tracy Grady already on the on the plane,

1889
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 1: already in town, so they knew what they were doing.

1890
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 1: And that's why the ass lost to y'all because the

1891
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 1: real higger wasnot to get the rebound. And that's what happened, bro,

1892
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 1: because while was my boy where he needed a real

1893
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 1: one on the side of him. But now all bush

1894
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 1: the side that I was supposed to be on that team. Man,

1895
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 1: it would have been great to be in the finals

1896
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 1: a getting play against youall on that finals. That was

1897
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 1: a good series. That would have been great. Yeah, you

1898
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 1: would have You would have loved that. Man. Would have

1899
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 1: been a hell of an environment and we would have

1900
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:26,640
Speaker 1: been able to hang out while you were down. He

1901
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 1: would have been no COVID boy, and the finals in

1902
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 1: Miami with U D Ship would have definitely been at something.

1903
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 1: We definitely do something. Everybody had been on the South

1904
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 1: Beach would have been on the other side. It was

1905
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 1: that when you was at. It was on the other

1906
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: side of the know nothing about that. Y'all had that

1907
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 1: beach ship. We don't want none of that. Your sir, Hey,

1908
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 1: so game six, the Spurs have the title in hand

1909
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:57,639
Speaker 1: and UH can't secure rebound. Ray hits that shot. Take

1910
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 1: us back to that night and how that, you know,

1911
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,599
Speaker 1: reduced you guys for game seven once again, I wasn't

1912
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 1: even playing that serious. So I had front row seats

1913
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 1: to the whole goddamn game and that shot from Ray. Man,

1914
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 1: I just remember sitting over there and they're bringing them down,

1915
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 1: them down, rope stop, and I'm saying, I'm saying, you

1916
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 1: know that, I'm saying, I'm like, I'm in disbelief, like

1917
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:24,679
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this ship like and I don't city again.

1918
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 1: The marriage got us like that before. Man, Man, man,

1919
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 1: it's like they that came in the house and took

1920
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 1: our food and walked out. This motherfucker. Man, it just

1921
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 1: you couldn't have told me that we weren't gonna win again.

1922
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:42,600
Speaker 1: And when that where see he got that rebound the

1923
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 1: way the angle that I had, I was directly on

1924
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 1: the other side of the shot from Ray And when

1925
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 1: I saw Ray let that motherfucker go, I knew it

1926
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 1: was good room room. Man. People don't know you watched

1927
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 1: Ray he do some drills when he lay down on

1928
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 1: his back like he's taking a nap and jump up

1929
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 1: and runt to the corner and shoot that motherfucker man,

1930
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 1: rayb It said all kind of ship. He'll sit down

1931
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:03,599
Speaker 1: Indian style and run to the three point line and shoot.

1932
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 1: You do all kinds of little drills like that, so

1933
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 1: for you have the backpen and get to that three

1934
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: point line and know that line at He practiced that

1935
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 1: every day. That's that's a mental exercise that he go through.

1936
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: That's one person I used to always try to lock up. Brother.

1937
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 1: Let me tell you one thing I used to hate

1938
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 1: with Ray When he got the ball, I'm like, oh yeah,

1939
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 1: I'm good money. As soon as I see a screen

1940
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 1: or two, and I got to chase him off the screen.

1941
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 1: You think you on him, you think you're right there

1942
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 1: on him. But as soon as he gets them feet set, bro,

1943
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 1: that's your ass. Man. Listen. Part of Boston offense against

1944
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 1: us was got them the way chasing Ray Man. They

1945
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 1: know that they way, and they had running all the ground.

1946
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 1: It got there the way, like man. That was part

1947
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: of the goddamn offense for Boston. Just run his ass,

1948
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 1: get him tied, yes, sir, So you guys are able

1949
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 1: to come back get that game and winning games seven

1950
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 1: to go back to back? What does it feel like

1951
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 1: to be back to back champs, something that rarely happens.

1952
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 1: I don't think we appreciate it the way we should have,

1953
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 1: you know, the whole gun. You know what I'm saying,

1954
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 1: And that's just the gods on the truth. You know

1955
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that the team that we had, the

1956
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: run that we had, the success that we had. That's

1957
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 1: not to say that we we we didn't appreciate at all,

1958
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 1: but that amount of success in that short period of time,

1959
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 1: four straight finals, you know what I'm saying, I don't

1960
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 1: think we appreciate it the way we thought the way

1961
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 1: we should have. I think we got to the point

1962
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: where we thought we were just gonna do that ship

1963
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 1: every year. You know what I'm saying. It was just

1964
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: like it was just expected that we were just gonna

1965
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 1: keep going back to the finals and we're just gonna

1966
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 1: stay together, We're gonna stay healthy, and it ain't gonna

1967
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 1: never break up. And I think I think that was

1968
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 1: that was probably a mistake, and I think we should

1969
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 1: have probably just you know, probably you know, I loved

1970
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 1: it a little more, you know what I'm saying, especially

1971
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 1: when you look at yeah, enjoyed the process. Man, We

1972
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 1: just focused on working, working, working, and next year we're

1973
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 1: gonna do it again, and just then and third, and

1974
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 1: I think we never really took time to enjoy it.

1975
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 1: I think everybody had. You know, you had your one

1976
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 1: little party, you had your parade, and then you think

1977
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,919
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it again, and it's just that's not reality,

1978
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, It's not reality the thing

1979
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 1: that you're just gonna keep going back to the finals

1980
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 1: and just doing it again. I think we really should

1981
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 1: have took time to understand the position that we was

1982
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 1: in as a team, you know, as a group, you know,

1983
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 1: as a quote coach is that organization everything, and that

1984
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 1: was something special that we was able to do. Man,

1985
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 1: And you know, Go to Stay obviously came in and

1986
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 1: they had their run and they duplicated and they took

1987
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: it even further than did they was able to do.

1988
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 1: But anybody that's been a part of runs like that,

1989
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 1: you understand how special that is, especially when you get

1990
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 1: towards the latter part of your career and you start

1991
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 1: to get you know, start to see yourself walking away

1992
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 1: from this man that's a team and the situation in

1993
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 1: a run that will always be remembered and always talked about. Yes, sir, so,

1994
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,560
Speaker 1: so you guys is for your run comes to the

1995
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 1: end the next season? Uh, with a rematch first san Antoni,

1996
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 1: they were able to get you guys, Lebron exits. What's

1997
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 1: your first reaction to here? And Nebron was going back

1998
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 1: to Cleveland? Did you know about it? Or you learned

1999
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 1: like everybody else that Jack? Let me tell you what

2000
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 1: you play the san Antonio? What the real when the

2001
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 1: reality of the condition going out like that is that happened?

2002
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 1: He said? Who pay the white? Who cut the court?

2003
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 1: Let me let me tell you this, who cut the court?

2004
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 1: You know, I'm always keep it funking with you? You did? You,

2005
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 1: my guy? Anything that going on in the arena san

2006
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 1: Antonio spurs practice, sittling pop got something to do with it. Yeah,

2007
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 1: that's right. Was cramping all up in that ship, right,

2008
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 1: wasn't that that? Man? That's how the fish greasing there? Man,

2009
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 1: that's with how the fish greasing there? Man, listen, they

2010
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 1: had fans in their locker room. We had no fans

2011
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 1: in our locker room. Man, held up, don't get me

2012
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 1: it's already in Texas that admitted they already ship. Man. Listen,

2013
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 1: I ain't saying it happened on purpose. I don't know

2014
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 1: what the hell, but they try to bubbeque. I ask

2015
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 1: something that Man, we're sitting in the locker rooms. Were

2016
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 1: sitting the locker room part water on each other. Many man, come, okay,

2017
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 1: we need you step out of snap out. It's hot

2018
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 1: up in this mother. I'm I'm sharing my water with him.

2019
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 1: Go ahead, man, come on, crazy as hell. So, like

2020
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 1: I said, you guys fall short. Pop has something to

2021
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 1: do with it on and off the court. But what

2022
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 1: was it like? You know, like I said before your run,

2023
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 1: you guys kind of not took it for granted, but

2024
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 1: didn't really cherish those moments. Man, how did you How

2025
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 1: did you find out Brian left? And wasn't a surprise

2026
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 1: to you? No, I wasn't surprised. I think I had

2027
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 1: a feeling he was leaving, you know the way it then?

2028
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 1: I think you know we had. The thing we didn't

2029
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 1: do is we didn't take time, like I said, to

2030
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 1: appreciate it, to to do the fun ship. You know

2031
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:51,759
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. All we did was work, work, work, practice, practice, practice.

2032
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:53,639
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, try to get to a championship,

2033
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 1: trying to get to a championship the shortest summers in

2034
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 1: the longest seasons for four straight years, and all we

2035
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 1: did was hit it, you know what I'm saying. And

2036
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 1: I think when you got when we got towards the

2037
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 1: end of it, you know what I'm saying, mentally, physically,

2038
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 1: you know, emotionally, I think it was always Austin. You know,

2039
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 1: we didn't know how to handle that. You know, none

2040
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:10,679
Speaker 1: of us have been the fourth straight finals. We didn't

2041
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 1: know what to expect, you know what I'm saying, And

2042
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 1: we just was pushing for greatness every time, and I

2043
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 1: think that warned us mentally, you know, more so than anything.

2044
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 1: And it got to the point where, you know what

2045
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:21,599
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it wasn't as enjoyable, you know what I'm saying,

2046
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:23,640
Speaker 1: going to practice as it was every day because at

2047
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 1: first were playing and joking and having a good time,

2048
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 1: and then, like I said I spoke about it earlier,

2049
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 1: you started getting to that zombie mode, you know what

2050
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying, where it starts to just become a routine

2051
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 1: that you following every day. You know what I'm saying

2052
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 1: that before you know it. You know, I'm saying, you're

2053
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 1: not even enjoying this ship the way you should. M hm.

2054
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:45,839
Speaker 1: Right up. How hard was it watching d Wade leave Miami.

2055
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:47,560
Speaker 1: I was happy for him to do what he what

2056
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 1: he felt that he needed to do, and I was

2057
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 1: happy for him to have the opportunity to go back

2058
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 1: to Chicago and put on for the city because I've

2059
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 1: been there and I know how special that is if

2060
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:56,840
Speaker 1: he could bring a championship to the city. Sad to

2061
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 1: see my brother go, you know what I'm saying, Sad

2062
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:00,679
Speaker 1: to see my brother go. We came in here together

2063
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 1: and we thought he was always gonna walk this ship

2064
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:04,600
Speaker 1: to the end. You know what I'm saying, from the

2065
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 1: beginning to the end. You know what I'm saying, We're

2066
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 1: gonna do it together. And that wasn't the reality, you

2067
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But as my dog, I'm gonna

2068
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 1: ride with him. I'm support him. So when he was

2069
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:16,720
Speaker 1: in Chicago, people know, I don't even watch basketball, man,

2070
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 1: because I started critiquing the ship. If I sit down

2071
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 1: to watch your basketball game, I can't watch it for

2072
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 1: fun because my mind I started saying this that third

2073
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 1: do that set the screen while he took that shot.

2074
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 1: This now I'm starting to not nine even to join

2075
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 1: the game now nine now my wheels is turning their ship,

2076
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:35,800
Speaker 1: so I can't even watch basketball. When we left him, Yeah,

2077
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 1: when d we left Miami, I started watching basketball again.

2078
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:40,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that was because of him,

2079
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 1: you do. I want to back up real quick before

2080
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 1: we you know, you just spoke on d way leaving

2081
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 1: and what that meant to you and how it brought

2082
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 1: you back to watching the game to check on him.

2083
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 1: But what was it like with Chris Bosh and once

2084
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 1: his health, um, you know started kicking in, you know,

2085
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 1: Braun leaves CB, you know obviously gets the next, you know,

2086
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 1: a bigger role. But he's definitely looking forward to handle.

2087
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 1: We had him on the show last year. I was

2088
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 1: definitely looking for that playoff matchup, hoping that the keep

2089
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 1: the Heat got a chance to play the Calves. And

2090
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:10,720
Speaker 1: then he starts having these health problems. What was it

2091
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 1: like being right there and seeing that first hand? And

2092
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 1: that ship was scary, bro, Because I was in the

2093
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:17,679
Speaker 1: locker room, you know, for the game before we played

2094
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 1: the caval Liz and CB passed out you know what

2095
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like before the game, like his locker was

2096
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 1: next to mine and he stood up and then he

2097
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 1: just kind of failed. You know what I'm saying. You

2098
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 1: just kind of went down a little bit. You know

2099
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Um, people don't know like I dealt

2100
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 1: with blood cluts, you know what I'm saying. So I

2101
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 1: know what that ship like. You know, I had a surgery, um,

2102
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 1: you know, on my foot, and I end up having

2103
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 1: blood cluss and I'm in the bed with pain like damn,

2104
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:43,760
Speaker 1: I can't breathe, like something literally like stabbing me. And

2105
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 1: you know how he is, Oh, we'll be already. I

2106
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 1: go to the hospital tomorrow. Got go to the doctor

2107
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 1: to marrow. Thank god for my wife saying no, you're

2108
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 1: gonna take your head to the doctor to night. End

2109
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 1: up going to the hospital. I had blood cluss. Man,

2110
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:55,560
Speaker 1: I would have never made it to the mar So

2111
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:59,560
Speaker 1: I understand. I understand like how serious that ship is.

2112
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:01,680
Speaker 1: So when I heard CB had it, you know, my

2113
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:06,679
Speaker 1: first natural instinct was basketball, make sure you're good. Ship

2114
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 1: them ship to take you out of here. Boy, there

2115
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 1: made nothing to play with. Mm hmm, yes, sure. And

2116
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 1: and I and I hated it for CB because that

2117
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 1: was an opportunity for him. You know what I'm saying.

2118
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 1: Once Brown left and you know, everything was going on

2119
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 1: for him to lead us, you know, and he was

2120
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 1: fully capable of it. He was fully capable of it.

2121
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He had done it plenty

2122
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 1: of times last ship when Brown and the way he

2123
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 1: didn't play, we were fully confident that CB go step

2124
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 1: in and lead us to a win. And he did

2125
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 1: it multiple times. That's tough. So now we're current this

2126
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:41,720
Speaker 1: new heat culture. Um first impression on bam and and

2127
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,680
Speaker 1: his entry and what he brought in, how you guys bonded. Man.

2128
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:47,639
Speaker 1: I just had so much respect and love for bam

2129
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 1: Man before I knew what he was at the basketball player,

2130
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 1: because I see how he treated his mama. You know

2131
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I see how he treats his mama. Man.

2132
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. If you come from any

2133
01:33:57,479 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 1: kind of situation where you know what I'm saying, whether

2134
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:02,600
Speaker 1: he lost your mom or any kind of average circumstances

2135
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 1: or whatever, man, you just understand how a little boy

2136
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 1: just appreciate their mother. You know what I'm saying. Don't

2137
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:10,680
Speaker 1: say we don't love our daddies. I deal with it

2138
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 1: right now. My little boys love me. But they come

2139
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 1: in the room in the morning before school, the hood

2140
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 1: their mom, and they leave. I'll be laying right next

2141
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 1: to her. I'll be laying the same bed, dog, right

2142
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 1: next to the woman. Dog. They don't hug me, they

2143
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:24,280
Speaker 1: don't say bye, They hunt their mama and they leave

2144
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 1: like and that's just what it is. So I understand that. Man.

2145
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 1: So my first thing with Bama, Man, how you how

2146
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:33,720
Speaker 1: you love and cherish in this relationship that he has

2147
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 1: with his mom. Man, just let me know that this

2148
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:37,639
Speaker 1: is a different kind of kid. You know what I'm saying.

2149
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:39,880
Speaker 1: He ain't He ain't out here spending his money. He's

2150
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 1: out here while and man, and then just he listened

2151
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:44,360
Speaker 1: and he worked. You know what I'm saying. Nothing ain't nothing.

2152
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 1: I never told Bam ain't nothing. I ain't never challenged

2153
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:48,640
Speaker 1: him to do that. He hasn't applied. You know what

2154
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:50,559
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I spend more time with Bam probably than

2155
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:53,360
Speaker 1: I do with any of my homeboys at this stage

2156
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 1: of the game. You know what I'm saying. Everybody doing ship,

2157
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:57,680
Speaker 1: everybody busy. You know, it's a pandemic man. You know,

2158
01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 1: literally Bama has been you know all the next closest

2159
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:02,640
Speaker 1: person to me. You know what I'm saying through all

2160
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 1: this stuff that's going on right now, so you know

2161
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 1: just the way he approaches the game. I watched him

2162
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 1: two years ago, not miss a game, you know what

2163
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:11,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying, not miss a game, had all kinds of

2164
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 1: all kinds of injuries, bumps and bruises, played every single game.

2165
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I watched his leadership, callit

2166
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 1: qualities continue to grow um and once again he's just

2167
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 1: somebody who I feel like, once my time is up,

2168
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:27,760
Speaker 1: he will be the next Miami Heat guy. When you

2169
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:30,559
Speaker 1: talk about the culture, when you talk about the Zos,

2170
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 1: and you talk about the d Ways, and you talk

2171
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 1: about myself, the next guy in line will be a band,

2172
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 1: will be Bend. I love to hear what was Jimmy

2173
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:41,560
Speaker 1: like once he got to the team. We had the

2174
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 1: Weight on our show and Do and d Way said

2175
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 1: that man was a perfect marriage for Jimmy, perfect perfect.

2176
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 1: I had got a chance to meet Jimmy and go

2177
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:49,840
Speaker 1: out to dinner with Jimmy one time with d Way

2178
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 1: Man and just get nderstand the chance to understand Jimmy. Man.

2179
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 1: The first thing people think about Jimmy is that, oh,

2180
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 1: he listened to country music. He might he must be weird.

2181
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 1: Ain't nothing weird. Ain't not weird about Jimmy. Jimmy, listen

2182
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 1: to it too. I'm too weird. I do too. And

2183
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:09,200
Speaker 1: Jimmy want us more as any more anybody. He want us.

2184
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. If you get a chance

2185
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:12,559
Speaker 1: to sit down and you get a chance to chop

2186
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 1: it up with jim and you understand Jimmy, you know

2187
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 1: where you come from. Jimmy, just keep everything coach to him.

2188
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 1: He ain't wide open with his hain't or wide open

2189
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 1: with his friendship. He ain't got a lot of friends.

2190
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 1: He ain't running his mouth fire head telling all his business.

2191
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 1: My respect that and I appreciate that, man. And what like.

2192
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 1: I tell people all the time, if you put a

2193
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:33,240
Speaker 1: dog outside, he's gonna go around and go on your

2194
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 1: trash can and tell your yard up, and you're gonna

2195
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 1: come out in the morning, your ship gonna be in shambles.

2196
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:39,559
Speaker 1: You put him in the kennle. When you put him

2197
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 1: in the kennle with other dogs, he's gonna make a

2198
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 1: pack and that's what he did. He came down here

2199
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 1: with us and he made a pack. Yep, just how

2200
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:50,679
Speaker 1: it looked to question. There's rumors floating around that Jimmy

2201
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:53,759
Speaker 1: was selected but passed on the All Star Game because

2202
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:56,560
Speaker 1: he felt Bam was more deserving than any truth to that,

2203
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 1: I could believe it. I didn't even know you could

2204
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:01,240
Speaker 1: do that. But if that happened, to believe, I ain't

2205
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 1: never know. They ain't never said, they ain't never selected

2206
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 1: my ass, But I believe it. You know what I'm

2207
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 1: saying that that is the kind of dude he is.

2208
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:09,160
Speaker 1: That is the kind of due he is. And I've

2209
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:11,679
Speaker 1: heard him say that before. But once again, I didn't

2210
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 1: know if that was true. If that was a room

2211
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:17,599
Speaker 1: when he first came and you guys, your team got going.

2212
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:20,759
Speaker 1: You know, you hear people spoke to his work ethic

2213
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 1: and he was going into two or three in the

2214
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:26,600
Speaker 1: morning getting working. What kind of energy? How refreshing for

2215
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:29,800
Speaker 1: you someone who works hard to this day to see

2216
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:32,720
Speaker 1: another star come in new to the team, but have

2217
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:35,759
Speaker 1: that kind of work ethic and and and and passion

2218
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 1: for the game. Man, that it gave me a new life,

2219
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:39,680
Speaker 1: because it gave me it gave me more opportunities and

2220
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:41,760
Speaker 1: more reasons to work. You know, people don't understand like

2221
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 1: me and Jimmy got a routine that we go through,

2222
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 1: you know, before the games. Now you know, it wasn't

2223
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:48,560
Speaker 1: something we did in the bubble because of the circumstances,

2224
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 1: but you know, it's something we were able to do

2225
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 1: a couple of times before the bubble, and it's something

2226
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 1: that we're able to engage in now, you know what

2227
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:57,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So once again, I've been reincarnated and and

2228
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 1: just reinvented myself, you know, with these new guys that's

2229
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:02,360
Speaker 1: coming in and you know, the routine and me and

2230
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:04,680
Speaker 1: Jimmy got it also helps me stay in shaping. It

2231
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 1: also helps me stay sharp, so you know his work ethic.

2232
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:09,720
Speaker 1: And people think that I'm always pushing these guys and

2233
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:11,960
Speaker 1: these guys are leaving me. But you know, sometimes it's

2234
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:13,680
Speaker 1: good to be a soldier and sometimes good to be

2235
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:15,439
Speaker 1: a general, you know what I'm saying. So you know

2236
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 1: I got situations where I'm right, I'm following Jimmy. You

2237
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that he leaves me and it's

2238
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:22,719
Speaker 1: helping me. Last November and I'm gonna quote pat Riley

2239
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:25,599
Speaker 1: said this on resigning you. His role is so critical

2240
01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 1: to our for our team, besides still being able to play,

2241
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:30,600
Speaker 1: UD keeps everyone together in the locker room and on

2242
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:33,560
Speaker 1: the road, teaching and mentoring. I think that's it's the

2243
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 1: role he's really loved, and we're glad to decide that

2244
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 1: he decided to come back. Talk to us about your

2245
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 1: relationship with mafia. Pat Riley, Man, the first two years

2246
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 1: I was in the NBA, I ain't even speak to pet.

2247
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:45,400
Speaker 1: I ain't ever been scared, ugh, I ain't never been

2248
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:46,880
Speaker 1: scared of nobody in my life. But it was an

2249
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 1: intimidation factor with a great pat. You know what I'm saying.

2250
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:52,160
Speaker 1: You gotta yeah, you know what I'm saying to slick

2251
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 1: back here. You know, he dressed like money. You know

2252
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I ain't never had too much I

2253
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 1: ain't never had too much money. He dressed like money.

2254
01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 1: He said that motherfucker dressed like money. Yeah, he dressed

2255
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:03,439
Speaker 1: like money. Bro, I ain't never had no money. Man

2256
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 1: dressed like little leather shoes on with his slacks and

2257
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:08,720
Speaker 1: his belt. It was really uncomfortable, man. It took me

2258
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 1: a while to get comfortable, you know, around pat Um.

2259
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 1: But once I got comfortable, man, and it just really

2260
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 1: understood you know, who he was and what he was

2261
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 1: and I was I now I was able to understood

2262
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:20,960
Speaker 1: why he was able to get the best out of

2263
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:22,640
Speaker 1: the Lakers and why he was able to get the

2264
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:25,680
Speaker 1: best out of the Knicks and teams like that. One

2265
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:27,760
Speaker 1: thing Pat Doode man is before he even draw a

2266
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:30,759
Speaker 1: playing on the board, he created a relationship with you mentally.

2267
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, he running ship at you too. He

2268
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 1: reading ship at you too. Now that they don't play

2269
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 1: that ship. He ran the ship out of us, like

2270
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:40,320
Speaker 1: I told you how many way the first couple of years.

2271
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 1: Was here running like a motherfucker out the first couple

2272
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 1: of years. But but he really, you know I'm saying,

2273
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:49,000
Speaker 1: he gets you to follow. He gets you to follow

2274
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:50,760
Speaker 1: him mentally. You know what I'm saying. With you know

2275
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:52,599
Speaker 1: all the stories that he has, You know what I'm saying.

2276
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:55,240
Speaker 1: When you listen to him, he's just an abundance of

2277
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 1: years and knowledge and success in this ship. So if

2278
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:00,000
Speaker 1: you want to be successful in this ship, you don't

2279
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 1: listen to somebody like that. He coached magic, he coached worthy,

2280
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 1: He coached you in He coached Kareem like he changed,

2281
01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:09,280
Speaker 1: Like you ain't listening. If you don't listen to Pat

2282
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 1: fun is you're doing. But you like, especially if you're young,

2283
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 1: Like if you're older, then you might you might know something.

2284
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:18,720
Speaker 1: But if you're young, you coming this ship and you

2285
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:23,280
Speaker 1: don't listen to pet Rally, you're tripping opportunity. Coach Foster

2286
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 1: consistent longevity equality. What has it been like learning and

2287
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:31,400
Speaker 1: growing with coaches since his early days? Oh? Man, it's

2288
01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 1: been amazing. Man. I'll tell U spot this all the time. Man.

2289
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 1: One thing I've already respected about supposed that he's always

2290
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 1: kept real and he hasn't been afraid to evolve. And

2291
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 1: I think that's one thing that we've taken from each other.

2292
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:43,599
Speaker 1: I think we've evolved together. You know, we both had

2293
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:46,439
Speaker 1: evolved to relate and be able to lead you know,

2294
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:49,720
Speaker 1: this next charge and this next generation. And you know,

2295
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:51,360
Speaker 1: it's been great, you know, being a part of this

2296
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:53,719
Speaker 1: process with spoke Man, the knowledge that I would watched

2297
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:57,439
Speaker 1: him obtained over his growth process, not just basketball wise,

2298
01:40:57,560 --> 01:40:59,200
Speaker 1: but you know how he's been able to have truth

2299
01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 1: and passion because I think the thing that a lot

2300
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 1: of NBA coaches lack and a lot of organizations lack

2301
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:05,040
Speaker 1: it is true and passion for what we go through

2302
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:07,519
Speaker 1: and what we deal with is basketball players as men.

2303
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And I watched Fobi able

2304
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 1: to Yeah, And I watched Bobi able to be successful

2305
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 1: and have true and passion for the players in the

2306
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 1: locker room and the players that come through here, and

2307
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:19,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people and a lot of organizations organizations

2308
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:21,560
Speaker 1: don't think you can do both. They don't think you

2309
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 1: can have truth and passion and really care about these

2310
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 1: guys and have conversations with you guys and win championships.

2311
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 1: They think it's got to be one of the other.

2312
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 1: And I think that's where a lot of organizations might

2313
01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:32,600
Speaker 1: go wrong. I think suppose figured out how to have

2314
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:34,599
Speaker 1: truth and passion and get the best out of guys

2315
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 1: and figured out how to win. It's tough saying a

2316
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 1: lot um in an error where loyalty is rare. Kobe

2317
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:46,360
Speaker 1: twenty years, you're eighteen and counting thoughts on guys like

2318
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 1: Dames Stephen Janice being able to ride their respective careers

2319
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:51,400
Speaker 1: out with their team. What are your thoughts about that?

2320
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:54,080
Speaker 1: I think they should. I think those organizations owe them

2321
01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:55,640
Speaker 1: that you know what I'm saying, because at the end

2322
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 1: of the day, those guys could have left multiple times

2323
01:41:57,400 --> 01:41:58,559
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, they ain't got

2324
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 1: their range yet, and they can say, all right, I

2325
01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:05,160
Speaker 1: gave you all this, This ain't it. I'm out. You

2326
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You can look at y'all this situation.

2327
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, how it ended last year.

2328
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:11,800
Speaker 1: He could have been perfectly within his right to make

2329
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 1: a move this year, and he didn't. So I think

2330
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:17,080
Speaker 1: those organizations all those guys the opportunity to finish their

2331
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:19,360
Speaker 1: careers there if they choose to. You know what I'm saying,

2332
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:22,000
Speaker 1: those guys, If those guys choose to finish their career,

2333
01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:25,880
Speaker 1: and those organizations, whether they win or not, those guys

2334
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 1: have paid their dues and they deserve to finish those

2335
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:30,559
Speaker 1: careers there. You know what I'm saying. I love Dame.

2336
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:32,599
Speaker 1: I love his game, but I think he's been overrated

2337
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 1: for a long period of time. Besides him just being

2338
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:37,200
Speaker 1: solid as hell out here. You feel me, you know

2339
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Uh. So, you know, those guys, if

2340
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:42,360
Speaker 1: they have success, so bid. But if they don't, I

2341
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 1: think those organizations have deserved to treat those guys, you know,

2342
01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 1: as if they've had success, because those guys have definitely

2343
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:52,559
Speaker 1: put those organizations on their backs. Absolutely, Um, we got

2344
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 1: a chance to kick it. I came out to Um,

2345
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:59,760
Speaker 1: Florida for the Biden situations. We ran into each other

2346
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:02,840
Speaker 1: and I was just so drawn back on your story

2347
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:05,639
Speaker 1: and your upbringing. You showed me the gas station where

2348
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 1: there is a shootout. But one thing you told me

2349
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 1: is no one would have expected you to come from

2350
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 1: where you came from. And I think we're at a

2351
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 1: community center in your hood where we were registering people

2352
01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:17,640
Speaker 1: to vote, encouraging people to vote, taking pictures, doing all

2353
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Tell me about the full circle

2354
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 1: evolution of Udonis Haslem out from where you started and

2355
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:26,960
Speaker 1: where you are now a solid vet uh. You know

2356
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 1: the world is your oyster, as they say after you're done,

2357
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:32,280
Speaker 1: But the full circle, you know you touched on the

2358
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:35,639
Speaker 1: low income housing, you're involved with registering people to vote.

2359
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:38,880
Speaker 1: Who is this new for or not new? But who

2360
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:42,760
Speaker 1: is the evolution of Udonis Haslem at four years old? Man?

2361
01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:45,559
Speaker 1: Like I told you all and y'all can agree. Man Um,

2362
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:48,040
Speaker 1: if one thing we know is like you know, you

2363
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:50,000
Speaker 1: stay ready for your calling out here. You know what

2364
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, look at what y'are doing. I mean, I

2365
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:53,439
Speaker 1: don't know if y'all could envision I don't know if

2366
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:56,920
Speaker 1: y'all could envision this, But look at what you're doing.

2367
01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:59,720
Speaker 1: I mean, number one do if I'm not mistaken, right

2368
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 1: y'all number one? Right? Yeah? We never? Yeah, bro, yeah,

2369
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:04,320
Speaker 1: we never. I never would have loved Look that's what

2370
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:06,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Bro. Look at what y'are doing. Man, that

2371
01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:08,479
Speaker 1: ship is amazing. Bro. And why y'all was playing or

2372
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:10,240
Speaker 1: even maybe a couple of years after y'all finished, I

2373
01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:12,320
Speaker 1: probably ain't see yourself doing this ship right now. So

2374
01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:15,839
Speaker 1: I would have never you know what I'm saying, imagine

2375
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 1: myself being a community leader. You know what I'm saying.

2376
01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 1: I would have never imagined myself, you know, building low

2377
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:24,599
Speaker 1: income housing, affordable homes in the hood. I would never

2378
01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:27,800
Speaker 1: imagine myself putting jobs in the hood. Um, it's just

2379
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:29,840
Speaker 1: so many different things I'm working on right now, man,

2380
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 1: and I would have never saw myself doing it. But

2381
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 1: as a true leader, you know what I'm saying, when

2382
01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:37,720
Speaker 1: you see when you see situations that need help, or

2383
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:41,599
Speaker 1: when you see situations that need uh hand or how

2384
01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:44,920
Speaker 1: you can help tap in? Yeah, and you and you

2385
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:46,800
Speaker 1: tap in and you do it. So I'm here in

2386
01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:48,719
Speaker 1: this city every day. I'm seeing me in this city

2387
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 1: every day walking around these people. Man, I don't have

2388
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 1: no security. I'm moving around these people. Man. These people

2389
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:56,639
Speaker 1: show me love, man. And I see opportunities where these

2390
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:58,360
Speaker 1: people need me. And I see that where there's a

2391
01:44:58,439 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 1: need in this city. And I have the means to

2392
01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:03,320
Speaker 1: feel those boys in those gaps. I'm gonna do it.

2393
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:05,960
Speaker 1: So for me, I have so many friends and family

2394
01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:08,439
Speaker 1: man that for whatever reason, they just can't find good

2395
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:10,840
Speaker 1: jobs just before the pandemic. Man, we're talking about people

2396
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 1: that have made mistakes, maybe have a record. It ain't

2397
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:15,519
Speaker 1: easy to go out there and get a job, man.

2398
01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:17,160
Speaker 1: So the first thing I'm gonna do is I'm gonna

2399
01:45:17,160 --> 01:45:18,639
Speaker 1: put you in a position to get a job. I'm

2400
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 1: not gonna give you a handout, because that's gonna cripple

2401
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 1: your grass. And at the end of the day, all

2402
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:23,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna do is come back and ask promote. We

2403
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:26,400
Speaker 1: all learned it. We all learned that ship the hardway. Yes,

2404
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We all learned that ship

2405
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:30,320
Speaker 1: the hardway they'll be back. They might say they won't,

2406
01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 1: and then they always somebody gonna pay you back. Then

2407
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:34,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna somebody's gonna pay you back, knowing damn well,

2408
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:41,720
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna pay you. Yeah, you money with no job.

2409
01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:45,600
Speaker 1: How are you gonna I promise I got you, I

2410
01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 1: got your all back. But no you ain't. No, you

2411
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:50,280
Speaker 1: ain't get your ass out of here and take that

2412
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:54,000
Speaker 1: with you. So I'm gonna put you in position to work,

2413
01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:56,040
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna see if you really want this ship.

2414
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:58,320
Speaker 1: Now I'm figured out how to figure it out. I

2415
01:45:58,360 --> 01:45:59,960
Speaker 1: don't figure out a lot of people don't want this ship.

2416
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 1: They want me to just give them ship because I

2417
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 1: didn't give people jobs and the motherfucker worked for a

2418
01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 1: week and as you can't find them no more. So

2419
01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:08,240
Speaker 1: like now you see who really want to work, and

2420
01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:10,720
Speaker 1: who really want self improvement and who want we hand eyes.

2421
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:12,920
Speaker 1: So the first thing for me, man, was to provide

2422
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:15,440
Speaker 1: jobs in my community. Man. I started with the subways

2423
01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 1: just because, if people know my story, I was a

2424
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:20,200
Speaker 1: chubby as kid and the only thing I could get

2425
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:22,960
Speaker 1: that was somewhat healthy for a chubby kid with subway,

2426
01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:25,280
Speaker 1: I wasn't going nowhere. I didn't have no money to

2427
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:27,960
Speaker 1: go get no expencive as chicken salads and all that.

2428
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:29,599
Speaker 1: I didn't even know what that was at. You get

2429
01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 1: your ninety nine cent poach Shops sandwich A Shakers, You

2430
01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:35,919
Speaker 1: get your ninety nine cent poach Shops sandwich that Shakers,

2431
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:38,400
Speaker 1: and yeah, get your kool aid, and you might spend

2432
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 1: three dollars, But that ship ain't healthy. That's the reason

2433
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:43,720
Speaker 1: why I was probably fat. So I started our subway man,

2434
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:45,960
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to get involved in something that

2435
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 1: I really really like, just fun with. So I started

2436
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:51,600
Speaker 1: with subways, and I started buying subways. Man. I have

2437
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 1: about five or six subways and anti ans because a

2438
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:56,880
Speaker 1: lot of them in Walmart, so you know, they got

2439
01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:59,559
Speaker 1: an anti ast into the subways. And that was something

2440
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:01,120
Speaker 1: that I was able to do to provide jobs in

2441
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 1: my community. And the next thing was, as we get

2442
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 1: old and this ship, we started drinking a lot of coffee.

2443
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 1: So every day on my way to the gym, my

2444
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:10,040
Speaker 1: asks was stopping by Starbucks. I said to myself, I

2445
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 1: spent so much money. This motherfucker's motherfucker always loaded. Let

2446
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:16,599
Speaker 1: me figure out how to somewhere own or get involved

2447
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 1: as far as franchise and these things. So I was

2448
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:21,200
Speaker 1: able to partner with, you know, someone out of Miami

2449
01:47:21,320 --> 01:47:24,280
Speaker 1: that has the credentials to own the Starbucks. But I

2450
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 1: had the financials on the Starbucks. So UM, with that

2451
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 1: were not I'm sorry, let me let me franchise Z.

2452
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:31,400
Speaker 1: You can't own the Starbucks, but you could be a

2453
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:33,280
Speaker 1: franchise Z. So I was able to be a franchise

2454
01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:35,880
Speaker 1: z for for a couple of Starbucks. And that was

2455
01:47:35,920 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 1: another opportunity to provide jobs. But these are all things

2456
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 1: that I eat or I was invested in personally. I

2457
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 1: didn't just go out. I ain't just go out of

2458
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:44,040
Speaker 1: nowhere and say, oh, that ship looked like it to

2459
01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:46,360
Speaker 1: make me some money, let me do that. The next

2460
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:49,519
Speaker 1: thing was Erees one Fire Kitchen. Man it was it was.

2461
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:53,719
Speaker 1: It was a West Coast establishment and mend Win always

2462
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 1: wanted to do something together. Um, so we were able

2463
01:47:56,479 --> 01:47:58,160
Speaker 1: to put this in this train station down here, if

2464
01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:00,880
Speaker 1: anybody knows anything about South Florida's train station that they

2465
01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 1: just built. And we're able to start with the train station,

2466
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:06,400
Speaker 1: and we have another location Aventure. And from that point on,

2467
01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 1: man it developed into the low income house, and man,

2468
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:11,120
Speaker 1: we all know how gentrification is. They're moving us up

2469
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 1: out the hood, man, at crazy numbers. We know we're no,

2470
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 1: we're no explanation man. And you know some of the

2471
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:18,880
Speaker 1: people they're moving, Some of the people they're moving out

2472
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:20,840
Speaker 1: of these hoods, they're moving them all the way down South, Bro,

2473
01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:22,800
Speaker 1: Like you ain't even close to where you was before.

2474
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:24,800
Speaker 1: We're talking about another We're talking about a whole hour

2475
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:27,160
Speaker 1: away from where you was at. You know what I'm saying. Now,

2476
01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:30,040
Speaker 1: We've got people who are already dealing with transportation issues

2477
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 1: moving to get to work. Now now you're moving my

2478
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:34,640
Speaker 1: hour away. So you know, the the next step for

2479
01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:38,040
Speaker 1: me is electric cars and different processes like that for

2480
01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:39,479
Speaker 1: people in our hood to be able to get back

2481
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 1: and forth because we always a last to catch you

2482
01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:43,559
Speaker 1: onto some ship. But if anybody paying attention to what's

2483
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:46,360
Speaker 1: going on, man, electric cars and all those things like that,

2484
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:48,680
Speaker 1: those are what the future is. So for me, I

2485
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:50,680
Speaker 1: want to introduce the hood to these things before it

2486
01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:52,000
Speaker 1: even you know what I'm saying, because we need the

2487
01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:54,040
Speaker 1: last to catch you on the ship. Everything cut to

2488
01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:56,720
Speaker 1: us last, Everything cut to us last. But if you

2489
01:48:56,760 --> 01:48:59,080
Speaker 1: read about what's going on man, electric cars is where

2490
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 1: it's at. Man. Every thing it's going electric, man. So

2491
01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:03,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna introduce our people to that. I ain't gonna

2492
01:49:03,439 --> 01:49:04,880
Speaker 1: wait for us to get to it last. That's my

2493
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 1: next project in the hood, bring electric cross to the hood, man,

2494
01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:08,880
Speaker 1: where we gotta wait for somebody to do it for us.

2495
01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:11,439
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Man. Hats off to

2496
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:13,960
Speaker 1: you for for not forgetting where you came from, but also,

2497
01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:17,720
Speaker 1: like you said, providing opportunity for people to succeed. I

2498
01:49:17,760 --> 01:49:20,719
Speaker 1: think it's a beautiful thing, all right, man, quick hitters.

2499
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:22,920
Speaker 1: First thing that comes to mind. Let us know. Jack

2500
01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:26,720
Speaker 1: started off, if you have a chance to if you

2501
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:28,920
Speaker 1: had a chance to a live one moment our game

2502
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:32,679
Speaker 1: from your career, which one would it be and why? Ship?

2503
01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:35,080
Speaker 1: If I had a chance to live one moment in

2504
01:49:35,160 --> 01:49:39,439
Speaker 1: my game my career would be the Michigan State game, Uh,

2505
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:42,639
Speaker 1: I guess um. And in my my college the national

2506
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 1: championship against Michigan State UM two thousand, two thousand. I

2507
01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 1: had an amazing game, a great individual game, UM, but

2508
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:55,360
Speaker 1: we didn't win. And that was the only level I

2509
01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 1: didn't win it. I won a high school championship, I

2510
01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:03,040
Speaker 1: won NBA Championshi, I just have not one college ship.

2511
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:05,120
Speaker 1: I didn't get the college I didn't get the clean

2512
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:09,920
Speaker 1: sweet yeah friends with Rick Ross, you've collaborated. I just

2513
01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:12,280
Speaker 1: heard some stuff the other day with you and d

2514
01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:13,960
Speaker 1: weight on it, but I hadn't even there was the

2515
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:15,439
Speaker 1: first time I heard. I know you guys did a

2516
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:18,160
Speaker 1: long time ago, but you collab with Ross. You could

2517
01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:22,280
Speaker 1: pick one song to having rotation with Ross? Who would

2518
01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:28,519
Speaker 1: it be? M hm, we are ready already. That should

2519
01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:32,160
Speaker 1: go hard as hell? That's my ship. Yes, sorry, that

2520
01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:35,720
Speaker 1: was was that off? Mastermind? I think that was off

2521
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:40,280
Speaker 1: the Mastermind. That was off? That was off Mastermind, Rost

2522
01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:42,840
Speaker 1: the big homie, Ross, the big homie Man. Yes, sir,

2523
01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 1: he's someone heavy in the franchise and too Yeah. Yeah man,

2524
01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:48,720
Speaker 1: That's what I was able to do. I was able

2525
01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:50,360
Speaker 1: to watch a lot of these guys, man, and I

2526
01:50:50,439 --> 01:50:53,120
Speaker 1: watched the way I watched Ross, I watched Braun. I

2527
01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 1: even watch what you're doing. Man, I'm I'm I'm picking

2528
01:50:56,280 --> 01:51:00,720
Speaker 1: brains about podcast man to patch you. I don't want

2529
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:04,360
Speaker 1: people put my shot on somebody else network. We're gonna

2530
01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:07,559
Speaker 1: talk about something else. I ain't compete with you. It's

2531
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:10,479
Speaker 1: enough room for all that was bro straight up. But

2532
01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:13,000
Speaker 1: I watched, I watched what y'all doing. Yeah, that ship

2533
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 1: motivated man. I'm not I'm always I'm always motivated by

2534
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:19,559
Speaker 1: other brothers. Man, I ain't intimidated. And some people sit

2535
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:21,559
Speaker 1: around and hurt on the motherfucker about what the motherfucker

2536
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:27,960
Speaker 1: doing and should motivated me. Brothers win Man, Yes, sir, yes, hey, yeah,

2537
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:30,600
Speaker 1: that ship motivated me. Bro s here we go, you

2538
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:33,760
Speaker 1: plus you plus four going to the park to own

2539
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:36,519
Speaker 1: the court, blacktop, you plus four? Who you bringing with you?

2540
01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:41,080
Speaker 1: NBA players, my homeboys, whoever you're going. You're going to town.

2541
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:42,759
Speaker 1: You might have to fight, you might have to shoot,

2542
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:45,200
Speaker 1: you might have to hoop. You never know what I'm bringing.

2543
01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:48,240
Speaker 1: I'm I'm bringing. I'm bringing the way with me. Okay,

2544
01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:51,240
Speaker 1: I'm bringing the way, my first one, the second one,

2545
01:51:51,920 --> 01:52:00,280
Speaker 1: my second one. Man. Steve Blake. People don't sa people

2546
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:01,720
Speaker 1: don't know Steve Blake with the High School with me,

2547
01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:06,760
Speaker 1: Steve Blake with high from the hood. Yeah, I'm taking Yeah,

2548
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:09,639
Speaker 1: I'm bringing Steve Blake with me. That used to be used,

2549
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:11,599
Speaker 1: that used to be my Laker smoking buddies. I don't

2550
01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:13,040
Speaker 1: mean to put this business out there, but that's my

2551
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:16,559
Speaker 1: long step. Hey, Steve Blake was cool as a motherfucker man,

2552
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:20,960
Speaker 1: like a real man. Yes, like a real one. Man.

2553
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:25,360
Speaker 1: The Wade the next one I'm going with. We might

2554
01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:27,200
Speaker 1: have to fight, but we gotta get a win. Huh.

2555
01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:31,000
Speaker 1: I'm going with I'm going with Shot. I can't go

2556
01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:35,400
Speaker 1: that way without Shot. I gotta take picture because I've seen. Listen,

2557
01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 1: big fella, catch you with one of them, hey, making

2558
01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:41,800
Speaker 1: jas out accident on accident. Yeah, listen, listen, if we

2559
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:43,840
Speaker 1: fell at you with one of the motherfucker's, you're going

2560
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:48,000
Speaker 1: to sleep for shore for sure. And my next one, man,

2561
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:54,479
Speaker 1: it's tough. I gotta go with see now, this is

2562
01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:56,800
Speaker 1: where I got my issues at, my my goat when

2563
01:52:56,840 --> 01:53:00,000
Speaker 1: I grew up on m J. But yeah, I can't.

2564
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:01,479
Speaker 1: I don't know if he I don't know if you

2565
01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:04,240
Speaker 1: need to go forever because these motherfucker's can go. But

2566
01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:06,760
Speaker 1: I'm taking MJ right now. I'm gonna take the MJ

2567
01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:08,639
Speaker 1: with me. I'm gonna take an MJ with me. That's

2568
01:53:08,680 --> 01:53:11,240
Speaker 1: my go too. But these but but I'm not finished.

2569
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:14,000
Speaker 1: These motherfucker's out here right now. These motherfucker's can go

2570
01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:18,360
Speaker 1: on his ass. They on his ass Brian and Brian,

2571
01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:21,160
Speaker 1: you know, and somebody else's era. Bron might be to go.

2572
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:23,360
Speaker 1: MJ did go to my era, need to go to

2573
01:53:23,479 --> 01:53:25,760
Speaker 1: my era. But the greatest play in league right now,

2574
01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:30,200
Speaker 1: obviously it's Bron. But these motherfucker's is coming. Yeah, facts

2575
01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:34,920
Speaker 1: who would be on your Miami Heat all time starting five?

2576
01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:37,200
Speaker 1: And would be you who would be a six man?

2577
01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:39,800
Speaker 1: Don't be afraid to put yourself in that motherfucker. I'm

2578
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:41,200
Speaker 1: gonna after I don't put myself and I'm in that

2579
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:43,719
Speaker 1: motherfucker first. People gotta look at my numbers when listen,

2580
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:45,920
Speaker 1: when the Way and the motherfucker's weren't playing, I might

2581
01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:47,720
Speaker 1: have averaged twenty. I was getting my ship off when

2582
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:51,559
Speaker 1: they was out, when CB came, when c When CB

2583
01:53:51,680 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 1: came and we had another option when d Way and

2584
01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:56,360
Speaker 1: Brian was out, that my whole ship up. But we

2585
01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:59,160
Speaker 1: bran with the Way Brian and before CBO came, I

2586
01:53:59,240 --> 01:54:01,000
Speaker 1: used to get my ship off, man. So I'm definitely

2587
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:03,559
Speaker 1: putting myself in there. I gotta go with the Way again.

2588
01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:05,800
Speaker 1: I gotta go with the Way again. Man. I'm gonna

2589
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:09,360
Speaker 1: go with Mario as my six man man because Mario

2590
01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:14,000
Speaker 1: Chalmers man just Mario. People don't understand mario biggest strength

2591
01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:15,920
Speaker 1: was the fact that he thought it should have been

2592
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:19,559
Speaker 1: the big folk. He he thought, you can't tell him

2593
01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:22,320
Speaker 1: you can you can't tell him ship and that, and

2594
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:24,960
Speaker 1: that made Mario great for us man, because Mario took

2595
01:54:25,120 --> 01:54:28,680
Speaker 1: and made Mario took and made big fucking shots for us.

2596
01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:32,120
Speaker 1: He always had ever since college, He's always he's always

2597
01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:33,720
Speaker 1: stepped up big games. I got a chance to play

2598
01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:36,840
Speaker 1: with him in Memphis too. I fuck Rial heavy man,

2599
01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 1: I was. I was sad he got hurt. Man. He

2600
01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:41,280
Speaker 1: actually had some success out there before he got hurt. Yeah,

2601
01:54:41,800 --> 01:54:43,800
Speaker 1: so so so who's your five? So you got you

2602
01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:48,960
Speaker 1: Rio d Wade, Yeah, Rio coming off my bench, Merio everyway,

2603
01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:52,320
Speaker 1: Rio coming out of my bench. Broun Yeah, I gotta go.

2604
01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:56,240
Speaker 1: I gotta go, ship Man, I gotta gonna ceeb CB

2605
01:54:56,520 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 1: braun shack you d way scary. Yeah, I gotta I

2606
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:07,360
Speaker 1: gotta go with that man. Five dinner guests, dead or alive,

2607
01:55:07,600 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 1: Ship Pop, Biggie, Them boys got them boys got to

2608
01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 1: come with me. I definitely got to see them boys

2609
01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 1: pop big oh man, um god damn yeah, my hole boy, Chip,

2610
01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:24,960
Speaker 1: my home, my homeboy, My homeboy Chip. God bless it

2611
01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:28,440
Speaker 1: did my homeboy Chip. He never he never, he never,

2612
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:30,200
Speaker 1: he never had a chance to see this side. Man.

2613
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:32,800
Speaker 1: He was locked up and when he when he got out. Man,

2614
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:34,520
Speaker 1: I was in the NBA. He came to one game

2615
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:36,720
Speaker 1: and not too much later that he ended up getting killed.

2616
01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:39,760
Speaker 1: Um So, my homeboy Chip, if he could come to

2617
01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:43,640
Speaker 1: dinner with me, that would be amazing. Big Chi, Yeah,

2618
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:47,040
Speaker 1: big pop Chip. Uh, I gotta throw a great one

2619
01:55:47,120 --> 01:55:49,360
Speaker 1: in there. Man. I go back and forth depending on

2620
01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:53,480
Speaker 1: what kind of mood I'm man, Malcolm, my depend on

2621
01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 1: depending on what mood man boy, I'll be backing one

2622
01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:58,200
Speaker 1: day and the next day I be like a motherfucker

2623
01:55:59,400 --> 01:56:02,000
Speaker 1: today to day our Malcolm Michael code to take up

2624
01:56:04,280 --> 01:56:07,200
Speaker 1: last Today, I gotta take a queen. You know what.

2625
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:10,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take my mama. Man, come on, we'll take

2626
01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:15,320
Speaker 1: my mama. I'm gonna take my mom. That's the peace

2627
01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:18,840
Speaker 1: moms man for be a good dinner. Yeah for sure.

2628
01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:22,000
Speaker 1: She might want to cook it s you know that's

2629
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:28,480
Speaker 1: gonna it's uh yeah yeah, all right. Last question, who

2630
01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:30,160
Speaker 1: do you want to see on all the smoke? But

2631
01:56:30,280 --> 01:56:35,480
Speaker 1: you have to help us with your answer. Ship one

2632
01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:39,560
Speaker 1: of your formers. It's one of your former teammates who

2633
01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:42,080
Speaker 1: already want and we already had d Weight and we

2634
01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 1: already had boss. Yeah, Jackie, see how I laid that

2635
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:57,120
Speaker 1: went out there? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got it. Listen, Yeah, damn,

2636
01:56:58,200 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 1: well look well we look not not not only that

2637
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:02,880
Speaker 1: at it could be somebody on your team now who

2638
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:07,120
Speaker 1: we haven't had mm hmmm now that you know we

2639
01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:09,360
Speaker 1: need on the show. Yeah, there's a couple of you

2640
01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:10,800
Speaker 1: have a couple of dudes on your team now, a

2641
01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:12,640
Speaker 1: couple of dudes you play with with the Big Three,

2642
01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:14,560
Speaker 1: or what dude you play with the Big Three? There's

2643
01:57:14,800 --> 01:57:17,720
Speaker 1: there's some lists. If I say now, if I say now,

2644
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:19,760
Speaker 1: if I say now, you gotta go, you gotta go

2645
01:57:19,880 --> 01:57:23,080
Speaker 1: with you gotta go with Jimmy. We know you gotta go.

2646
01:57:23,360 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 1: You gotta go with Jimmy. All Jimmy is the only person.

2647
01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:29,960
Speaker 1: But no, actually I'm lying. Jimmy and Kyrie. I talked

2648
01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:32,600
Speaker 1: to them more than anybody on n NBA, damn the

2649
01:57:32,720 --> 01:57:36,200
Speaker 1: every day and they're the only ones. Ain't been He

2650
01:57:36,280 --> 01:57:38,800
Speaker 1: ain't he ain't doing and listen, he ain't doing nothing

2651
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:43,280
Speaker 1: but drinking wine, drinking one and trying to charge the

2652
01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:48,080
Speaker 1: motherfucker hunting on a couple of coffee. Sure, mothers Hey,

2653
01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:50,640
Speaker 1: motherfucker's paying that hunted dollars for that coffee. I'm been

2654
01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:52,400
Speaker 1: there working with his ass. Don't gett my shirt on

2655
01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:54,080
Speaker 1: the house. He's gonna chease me how to make this ship.

2656
01:57:57,080 --> 01:58:00,240
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Jimmy man, Jimmy, you definitely got to get

2657
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:03,880
Speaker 1: Jimmy man. Sir, you'll see the practice tomorrow. I would

2658
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:05,760
Speaker 1: love for you to have Mike mill on your show. Yeah,

2659
01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:10,040
Speaker 1: I would love you to have Jackson event Mike. Great girl,

2660
01:58:10,120 --> 01:58:14,000
Speaker 1: good shout out. That's my guy, that's my guy. Well

2661
01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:16,400
Speaker 1: you do, man, We appreciate your time. Best to luck.

2662
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:20,320
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna be great regardless, but we appreciate you,

2663
01:58:20,440 --> 01:58:23,360
Speaker 1: man and uh man, keep doing what you do. Appreciate you.

2664
01:58:23,440 --> 01:58:26,000
Speaker 1: Appreciate you all boys for having that. Man. I love it.

2665
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:28,240
Speaker 1: Love everything y'all doing. Man, Keep pushing them with a

2666
01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:31,560
Speaker 1: little homie. Keep leaving away. Bro. We're living through you,

2667
01:58:31,720 --> 01:58:33,920
Speaker 1: bro for sure. For show. We're gonna keep doing. And

2668
01:58:33,960 --> 01:58:35,920
Speaker 1: I'm living with y'all in that aspect too, man. So

2669
01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:38,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna link. We're gonna link. You know what it is?

2670
01:58:38,400 --> 01:58:40,600
Speaker 1: All love homie. Appreciate you all man for life. You

2671
01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:43,440
Speaker 1: did you know that? That's wrap? Thank you. Donni's has

2672
01:58:43,480 --> 01:58:45,920
Speaker 1: them for the time. You can catch all the smoke

2673
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:51,320
Speaker 1: on Showtime Basketball, YouTube and the I Heart Network Black Effects.

2674
01:58:51,480 --> 01:58:54,400
Speaker 1: We'll see y'all next week. This is All a Smoke,

2675
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:57,320
Speaker 1: a production of The Black Effect and Our Heart Radio

2676
01:58:57,640 --> 01:58:59,000
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