WEBVTT - EP 412: No Holes Barred (Ft. Tempest-X) 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.000 Speaks to the planet. 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:02.560 I'll go by the name of Charlamagne of God and 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:04.920 guess what, I can't wait to see y'all at the 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:08.319 third annual Black Effect Podcast Festival. That's right, We're coming 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:11.360 back to Atlanta, Georgia, Saturday, April twenty six at Poeman 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:15.000 Yards and it's hosted by none other than Decisions, Decisions, Man, 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:17.680 DyB and Weezy. Okay, we got the R and B 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:20.599 Money podcast with taking Jay Valentine. We got the Women 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:23.160 of All Podcasts with Sarah Jake Roberts, we got Good 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:25.640 Mom's Bad Choices. Carrie Champion will be there with her 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.760 next sports podcast, and the Trap Nerds podcast with more 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:31.200 to be announced. 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It's 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:10.440 your girl, podcaster, producer and aufa. 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:15.440 Maybe thank you for making us an author tympist, because 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:17.560 who knows if many not do this together, it might 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:18.800 have turned into TV shows. 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:20.560 There wouldn't have been a book it would have we 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:21.360 wouldn't have been able to. 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.479 Go through that process. Well, just us writing like without 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:28.280 being pulled out. Guys, we're having a no holds barred 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:29.640 special edition episode. 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.399 The reason we're having to talk about though, goddamn book. 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.160 It's really important because it's not just us do impress 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:39.440 for this book, but only our whore hive can get 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:41.720 this done for us. We really want to get on 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:45.440 a bestseller's list. This for us is definitely I would 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.480 say a milestone, a stamp of what this podcast would be. 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:50.560 This is how you end the show y'all thought it was, 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:52.720 and then this is how to me, this is the 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.840 pinnacle of what happens. And it's like, I would love 0:01:55.960 --> 0:02:01.120 for our podcast to even have something like that attached 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:04.360 to it. I haven't really seen many shows been able 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:06.920 to have a book that becomes a bestseller. 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:08.200 Maybe books end. 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:10.639 Up being e books and this and that and whatever. 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:12.919 But this is a really big fucking deal. 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:13.360 It is. 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:15.520 I didn't even know what Simon and Schuster was before 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.080 you can google them, had no clue. 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:18.680 I need y'all to put us in line with the 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:20.520 other podcasters who have been able to do it. 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.880 Shout out to Wallow, Shout out to Rashad and Troy from. 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:27.079 Earn Your Leisure. I know Jesus and Marrow had a book. 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:31.120 All the smoke just dropped away, That's what I'm saying. 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:34.040 So like knowing that podcasters and their fan bases have 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:36.560 been able to do it, I don't think anyone is 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.960 as dedicated and committed as the whore Hive. And I 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:42.799 want the horre Hive to literally show up and show 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:44.720 the fuck out by getting us to that. 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.120 And I think we know our episodes. 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:50.840 Live on Jesus Christ Praises because we've done said so 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.880 much on this goddamn podcast. But this book will literally 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.320 live on forever beyond us. You can give it to 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.200 your children, and I really want this to be stamped 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.280 as a book that kind of everyone needs to read. 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:05.000 And how you support yeah is by purchasing a pre 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:05.680 order book. 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:09.040 So if you don't want to support Amazon because. 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.480 Because we're not doing that right now, okay, and hey. 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:13.920 If it's easier for you to one click me to 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:14.840 do it, I'm gonna take one. 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.120 But we would love if you could just purchase it 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:19.880 from a local bookstore a place you like. If you're 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.040 in New York City, the Strand is a popular one, yes, 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.000 but just go on their website. It's going to be 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:27.560 the same price and you get to support indie booksellers. 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:29.239 And yeah, the pre. 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:30.840 Orders are really what will get us there, So please, 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:32.560 please please make sure you preorder this book. 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.240 It's super juicy and you're about to find out some 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:35.840 search no holds barred. 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:39.920 It's a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power, and y'all, 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.520 we are joined today by the way by I guess 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:45.280 y'all go motherfucking respect, because I know y'all like solo episodes. 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:49.160 But we are here with the person who actually helped 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:53.040 us to complete this book. So we have Tempest X 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:56.440 joining us in the building today to help kind of 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.080 guide and share what this process looked like for us. 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:01.400 And as you see if you are watching this on 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:06.120 the YouTube, Black Woman Baby and I guess we can 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:09.720 start there. Well, let's start with a little introduction on you, tempest. 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.080 How long have you been writing books? How long have 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.600 you ghosthroat in y'all, her name is on the book, so. 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:19.680 You go through. I guess you can't talk about them 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:20.840 ghost I cannot. 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:23.880 I cannot talk about them because I will get sued, 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.320 I know, and my name's not there, and it's just 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:28.880 always one name there, and I get a little salty 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:29.240 about that. 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:30.479 No, I don't know, because I don't know what. 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.320 Ever got like ghost writing makes you feel, though, because 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.120 I've always wondered, like you know, there's so many situations 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.800 where producers can feel like this too, a lot, yeah, 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:41.320 where you make something happen and you're like, damn, someone's 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:42.000 getting all the credit. 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:47.120 I just had a big book come out, and it 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:51.520 was so painful not to see my name anywhere, like 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:55.200 and not be mentioned, and hear the person talking as 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:59.160 if they did it all magically on their own. Yes, 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.279 which is another reason I can't say who it is, right, 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:04.040 but it was really really painful. 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:05.800 Well, we couldn't afford the ghost writing. 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:10.159 Price, Thank goodness, thank you. I'd rather have my name 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.880 on the book. I'll give you a discount. Let's do this. 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:14.520 I would rather get some credit. 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:16.760 I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I think even we've 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.039 we've shared and we've said it. 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:19.479 All the time. 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:23.000 Mind you, this is on black published privilege, black privilege 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.480 publishing with Charlemagne, and I think that we constantly give. 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:30.200 I don't think this show continues on without the push 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:33.599 and support that we've gotten from Charlemagne. And I think 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.760 that's to be said about this book too. I think 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:40.040 for the direction we wanted to go with certain of 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.000 the chapters, how we wanted it to sound, I don't 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:46.040 think it gets to the completed version without you being 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:48.719 a part of this project. So putting your name on 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.560 the book wasn't like a hard decision. I mean, like 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:53.040 I wasn't mad at that, and the name is kind 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:53.240 of fly. 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:58.400 The X really made it like h Williams be like all. 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.920 Right, I mean Williams is still a black I still 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:03.280 do you know what I mean? 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:05.440 Like if it was if it was something. 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.960 With a burger at the end, I don't know if yeah, 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:09.760 you know, I don't think well, I don't think you 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:11.520 would have been interviewing me to start with. 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:15.760 Then you're right, tell us like before writing, oh well, 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:19.000 before you started writing books and before you started helping 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:24.160 us write decisions not Noel's barred bad day. I really 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:28.960 want to know when you were reading dirty books, romantic stuff, erotica. 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:32.760 Yeah, how did it pair up with my beach reads? 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:33.480 Yes? 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:35.960 Yes, my beach treats where I'm reading on the beach 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.200 and I'm getting really excited and my husband's. 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.599 Like yes, which, ironically the beach scene is in the book, 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:42.800 but like yeah, like, how do you feel like they 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:44.320 measure up with No holds barred? 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:47.440 Because this is super juicy, Like did it feel different 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:47.919 reading this? 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:51.960 And it feels much different reading it since I helped 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:55.160 to create it with you guys, But it it's actually 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:58.760 juicier than I thought it was going to be and 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:01.520 then more grounded at the same time than I thought 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.280 it was going to be, which is pretty amazing. 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:06.039 Like definitely more grounded than I thought too. 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:09.320 That's like a huge duality, right, like juicy as hell, 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.480 but like really reflective of you guys. 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:12.320 I'm not gonna lie. 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:13.880 I'm glad we was able to get on the ground 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.600 and not be in a clouds. Like I love this 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:20.600 book and what it shows with the growth of each 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:24.040 of our individual journeys. Yes, but also like when we 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:27.000 first started this goddamn book, the chapters and stories that 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:30.440 we wanted changed. I had when we first started, when 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.120 I first met you, I had a boyfriend and I 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:34.880 think we were trying to put him in, like I 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.320 had these stories about being in love and then while 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:39.080 we're writing, I fucking break up with him and hate 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:40.800 him in your life. 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:41.840 And Weezy didn't have. 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:44.119 We had to add the love chapter. 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.440 Yeah, she didn't have. I didn't. 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:50.600 It been hole scared that ended up in yep. 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:52.640 I love that. Just to get dark, y'all. 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:56.840 No, no, no, no, I'm not gonna say what it was. Okay, 0:07:57.000 --> 0:08:01.760 but there was a chapter about New York that fell 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:05.200 short and we didn't get a lot of edits back 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:08.120 on it, and it was just like I think the 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.400 publisher was like, can you dig deeper? 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:13.160 Yes? And I know it wasn't our favorite to write, 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:15.560 but it was really fun. 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:17.480 It was like a New York sex story and it 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:19.520 was just like name of my favorite places in New York. 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:22.480 And then I remember where it was when I wrote 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:26.400 that chapter, and literally Temp's called me and was like, 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.480 I am so impressed. I'm so proud of you. This 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:32.760 might be my favorite chapter. I'm like this, yeah, literally, Mandy. 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:34.280 It was crazy because it was like, if this chapter 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:36.199 is not good enough, what can I say about New York? 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:38.080 Let's just talk about That's how I was gonna kill myself. 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:39.640 Like, this book is fucking nuts. 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.520 You did tell us and you like really bared your soul. 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.959 And I'm actually pissed at myself because if I had 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:49.960 known that you would dig that deep when pushed and 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.960 pushed and pushed, I would have rowed your ass harder 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:53.600 the whole time. 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:56.199 What else can I would have rowed your ass harder? 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:57.920 What else do we got out of this? Listen? 0:08:58.280 --> 0:08:59.640 We have to ride your ass chapter. 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.040 We do have a roger ass chapter. 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.199 N But like it really is kind of crazy when 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:08.079 you think about you know, just like pressure and diamond 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:10.000 making and type shit, you know what I mean, Like 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:14.120 thinking that that story was there and didn't go until 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:17.520 the very end. It was very, very being changed. And 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:21.480 I wonder if being able to go through those things. 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:24.479 I've been having conversations with friends, like my most successful 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:26.120 friends have really fucked up stories. 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.080 My happiest friends went through really dark times. Of course 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:30.599 at least happy. 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.960 Today and it makes me think about that. It's like 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:36.120 you kind of have to fail a little bit to 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:36.680 get gold. 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:38.120 You have to know the darkness to know. 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:38.560 And even my. 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:44.920 Breakup, like your chapters were fired even though I'm thinking 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.440 they're gonna be boyfriend related and then they're painful, but 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:50.480 they were so good to read because what woman hasn't 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:51.680 been through fucking heartbreak? 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:53.720 Like that's reality. 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:57.200 I do also want to make mention because I don't 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:02.240 think Charlemagne was pro this. Actually mentioned it after our 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.079 show at Sony Hall. He sends us our cover art 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:08.240 and is like, now, this would be a great book cover, 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:09.679 and I said, so. 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:11.320 We literally had to tell. 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:14.400 Charlemagne it was so intentional for our faces not to 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:17.440 be on the cover of this book because we didn't 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:22.400 want it to be like a memoir where people would 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.520 not give a fuck about these two biracial bitches if 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:27.720 they never heard the goddamn podcast, And. 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:32.120 We wanted it to be to where any woman saw 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.880 this book, picked it up and is like, now what 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:35.319 is this? 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:39.360 So the lips, the funness of the font, everything was 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:40.240 so intentional, y'all. 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.240 We spent weeks going back and forth. I also on 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:43.079 this hour. 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:46.760 Look would make someone think the book isn't serious. I 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:52.480 think when you see alternative looks, young yes, young faces 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:54.920 make me think I'm not going to get too much depth. 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.120 It's gonna make me think, what the fuck am I 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:58.760 going to learn from you? Like a manifesto? 0:10:58.840 --> 0:10:59.360 Like I'm not a. 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:01.760 Like, like why are you writing a manifesto yet? 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:05.040 But the other thing is I hated feeling like. 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:10.480 Everybody makes me feel when I'm talking about horrible decisions, 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.720 like it's just these fans. And I think it's because 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.400 it's been so many years, right that I was really thinking, 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.760 like why the fuck would I write a book just 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.920 for them? These people are going to appreciate it, are 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.920 gonna love it. The world needs this book. Yeah, people 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.840 who listen to Horrible I'm grateful they found this, But 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:29.880 what about the girl that would love it that hasn't 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.120 heard it yet? Like I love when I meet someone 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:33.880 new eight years and it's like I just started listening 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:35.760 a few weeks ago and I'm like, damn, for real. 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:39.320 This book is literally for every person. I can't think 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:43.480 of one person that is female that I know in 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:45.800 any age range who I wouldn't give this book to. 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:47.280 You now what about the men. I'm men gonna pickure. 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:47.880 I'm not gonna lie. 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:51.440 I think I was gonna be bit queer, but no, 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:55.360 I do think men, especially our fan base, yes, it 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.320 will really appreciate this book. And I think it will 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:59.960 give them what this podcast has given them for eight year, 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:05.240 an insight on us navigating relationships with them, us navigating 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:10.120 our sexual bodies, and our uncomfortableness with feeling safe. I 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:13.160 think that was a big thing for me during this book. 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:17.560 I had an epiphany in therapy that, Wow, in talking 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:20.480 about my sexual assault and talking about me navigating sex 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:23.480 and talking about my last relationship, I haven't really felt 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:27.480 safe with men and navigating that, and so within like 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:32.440 the chapters, like, I really appreciate what this book brought 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:35.560 in the time that I needed it for my therapy journey. 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.880 Yeah, and I definitely brought that to the book. 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:41.360 You literally started here and ended up in an entirely 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:41.959 different place. 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.120 Do you think of it? 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:46.960 I mean a little bit, But that's what any good 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:49.480 writer does, Like, especially if you're working with other people, 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.000 you bring out the best in them, You bring out 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:55.560 juice of your stories. You make them feel comfortable, which 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:57.480 is a really big deal for a writer, like what 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.400 if you guys hated me, Like you aren't going to 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:00.160 tell me anything? 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:02.360 Oh, I hold you? I got hold you. 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.440 Me and Simpis was on the phone and I And 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.240 what makes this so different than horrible decisions too? Decisions 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:12.520 decisions I lean so much into my childhood. So there's 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.400 niggas I'm talking about from like middle school, and me 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:16.520 and Simpis are writing and. 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:18.960 I'm like explaining it. I'm like, let me go find 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:19.600 their Facebook. 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:24.040 Yes, And I'm literally pulling up Facebook pages of niggas 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:27.600 that I thought I loved in middle school and high school, 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:29.760 like nah man, but let me show you how good 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:30.400 he looks now. 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:32.160 He was such a cute little boy. 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:35.280 What's interesting, too, is it's different from gossiping about it, 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:39.120 because when someone's writing it with you, you kind of 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.240 do need to see it, Like we write a chapter 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:45.240 about this white dude who is fine. But I also 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.320 was like, I'm sitting here telling her about this white 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.120 man being fine, and I need her to understand when I. 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:52.240 Got on my knees like that. 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.040 And then when I saw him, I was like, I 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.440 will get on my knees for you. And I went 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:58.040 home and told my husband, like. 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:01.520 Hall passed, Oh yeah, I lie, I might need you 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:05.080 to sign an NDA because this is not a Confessions 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:08.200 of a Video Vixen book, but there's quite a few 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:09.840 celebrities within our stories. 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.120 Yes, And I had to be like, timp is this 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.320 going talk about girl? Just so you understand, I'm going 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:14.800 to keep it. 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:16.760 I'm going to keep it to myself, Like if I 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:19.520 can talk about books that I wrote, if I'm not 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:23.440 leaking that information, I'm going to do that. I'm not 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:23.880 gonna do it. 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.800 What do you think was the juiciest thing from each 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:28.960 of us where you were like what the fuck? When 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:32.120 we were or so Basically how a lot of our 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:35.080 writing process works is we would write it out, submit 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.160 it to Tempest and she'd be like, this is how 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.560 we're making it a story, helping us edit it, just 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:43.680 adding some good to me, not the word transition. But 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:46.920 I feel like I was jumping around a lot, like 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:47.920 how did we get here? 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:48.480 Yeah? 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:50.120 I just knew how to get words on a page 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:51.840 or tell a story, but it's like, okay, we need 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:52.000 to be. 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:53.440 There had to be the thread to make it a 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:54.080 real threat. 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:54.520 Thank you? 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:56.640 Yeah, what do you think we've sent to you? For 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:58.760 both of us, where you were like, this is crazy. 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:03.400 I mean, can I say it? Because I kind of 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:05.000 want to keep some secrets. 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:13.280 People read, well, that's okay, you no, I know, how 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:14.120 do you not know. 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:20.640 The blood? 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.120 But I'm pretty sure that never aired. I'm pretty sure 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.440 they edited, they waited too much to be shared with 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:33.120 what I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure that got cut out. 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:35.480 No, yeah, that was like, oh. 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:36.920 You can say it here because it wasn't on the back. 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:41.000 Okay, So uh, there's a part where suddenly there was 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.880 talking of what's the name of the movie again, saltburn 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:49.160 saltburn blood, different kind of blood. 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.440 Which is crazy because throughout the whole theme of this podcast, 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:54.720 maybe he has joked with me about loving blood or 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:58.400 like him because I have periods because I have period sex. 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:02.840 That's been our joke. Yes, the fact that it got there, I. 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:05.800 Was like, I was reading it and first of all, 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.360 the chapter starts out like really lovely and like it's 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:11.960 about love and it's romantic and it's funny and it's cute. 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:15.480 And then suddenly this is happening and I was like, oh, oh, 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:17.600 so this is where we're at now, This is where 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.280 we're at now, and like, what about his leather interior. 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.600 That's what I was most worried about in his that's 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:24.440 easy to wipe all. 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.480 So funny is leather interiors are Actually he got the 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:27.480 arm and hammer, white eye. 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:32.360 I was, I don't know. I didn't know that, you know. 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:36.960 About what he's willing to do for love. So these 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:40.520 past few weeks we were in Highland, I realized he 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:42.920 has a very low tolerance for certain things. 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:46.160 Like every day he was like, which toothbrush is mine? 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:47.280 Which toothbrush is mine? 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:47.840 Fine? Right? 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:49.720 I don't like sharing toothbrushes either, But I was like, 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.440 at one point, did you eat my. 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:54.120 Period blood and my blood? 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:56.720 You ate my period blood in a car? 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:03.800 Blood is different than blaque? Never? But does he like 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:04.440 it's metal. 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:09.520 I would rather use your toothbrush than eat your period blood, right. 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:11.680 Oh my god, I would rather do neither. 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:13.879 I don't want im plaque. 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:18.760 But anyway, a good chapter name. We missed out. 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:20.720 Book number two. 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:24.560 But there's other ship like something with his hair. I'm like, oh, 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:25.160 just use lying. 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:26.640 He's like, no, I'm good. 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:31.680 You ain't my blood. That is crazy. That is iron, 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:36.119 that's crazy talks. But you know what I really. 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:39.360 Think off of a plane too, right, oh, girl, disgusting 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:40.840 when we get it was a summer day. 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.800 We a vampire? Was this the night? Does he come 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:46.880 out during the day. I've never seen him during the day. No, okay, 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:47.520 I'm just saying, never. 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:49.920 Seen him during in the day, Like I never that 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:50.639 you got an old. 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:51.280 Vampire, nigga. 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.159 No, he's like, he comes, see if we have to 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:58.120