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Speaker 1: Welcome to Decisions Decisions.
Speaker 3: I don't think you should say the Decisions.
Speaker 1: It sounded like you.
Speaker 4: Was talking to person you definitely say to Welcome, Welcome
Speaker 4: to the new podcast. How about you want to say
Speaker 4: together the Decisions Decisions.
Speaker 5: Welcome y'all a very special episode of Decisions Decisions. It's
Speaker 5: your girl, podcaster, producer and aufa.
Speaker 4: Maybe thank you for making us an author tympist, because
Speaker 4: who knows if many not do this together, it might
Speaker 4: have turned into TV shows.
Speaker 1: There wouldn't have been a book it would have we
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been able to.
Speaker 5: Go through that process. Well, just us writing like without
Speaker 5: being pulled out. Guys, we're having a no holds barred
Speaker 5: special edition episode.
Speaker 1: The reason we're having to talk about though, goddamn book.
Speaker 4: It's really important because it's not just us do impress
Speaker 4: for this book, but only our whore hive can get
Speaker 4: this done for us. We really want to get on
Speaker 4: a bestseller's list. This for us is definitely I would
Speaker 4: say a milestone, a stamp of what this podcast would be.
Speaker 4: This is how you end the show y'all thought it was,
Speaker 4: and then this is how to me, this is the
Speaker 4: pinnacle of what happens. And it's like, I would love
Speaker 4: for our podcast to even have something like that attached
Speaker 4: to it. I haven't really seen many shows been able
Speaker 4: to have a book that becomes a bestseller.
Speaker 1: Maybe books end.
Speaker 4: Up being e books and this and that and whatever.
Speaker 4: But this is a really big fucking deal.
Speaker 6: It is.
Speaker 4: I didn't even know what Simon and Schuster was before
Speaker 4: you can google them, had no clue.
Speaker 5: I need y'all to put us in line with the
Speaker 5: other podcasters who have been able to do it.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Wallow, Shout out to Rashad and Troy from.
Speaker 5: Earn Your Leisure. I know Jesus and Marrow had a book.
Speaker 5: All the smoke just dropped away, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So like knowing that podcasters and their fan bases have
Speaker 5: been able to do it, I don't think anyone is
Speaker 5: as dedicated and committed as the whore Hive. And I
Speaker 5: want the horre Hive to literally show up and show
Speaker 5: the fuck out by getting us to that.
Speaker 1: And I think we know our episodes.
Speaker 5: Live on Jesus Christ Praises because we've done said so
Speaker 5: much on this goddamn podcast. But this book will literally
Speaker 5: live on forever beyond us. You can give it to
Speaker 5: your children, and I really want this to be stamped
Speaker 5: as a book that kind of everyone needs to read.
Speaker 4: And how you support yeah is by purchasing a pre
Speaker 4: order book.
Speaker 3: So if you don't want to support Amazon because.
Speaker 6: Because we're not doing that right now, okay, and hey.
Speaker 3: If it's easier for you to one click me to
Speaker 3: do it, I'm gonna take one.
Speaker 4: But we would love if you could just purchase it
Speaker 4: from a local bookstore a place you like. If you're
Speaker 4: in New York City, the Strand is a popular one, yes,
Speaker 4: but just go on their website. It's going to be
Speaker 4: the same price and you get to support indie booksellers.
Speaker 1: And yeah, the pre.
Speaker 4: Orders are really what will get us there, So please,
Speaker 4: please please make sure you preorder this book.
Speaker 1: It's super juicy and you're about to find out some
Speaker 1: search no holds barred.
Speaker 5: It's a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power, and y'all,
Speaker 5: we are joined today by the way by I guess
Speaker 5: y'all go motherfucking respect, because I know y'all like solo episodes.
Speaker 5: But we are here with the person who actually helped
Speaker 5: us to complete this book. So we have Tempest X
Speaker 5: joining us in the building today to help kind of
Speaker 5: guide and share what this process looked like for us.
Speaker 5: And as you see if you are watching this on
Speaker 5: the YouTube, Black Woman Baby and I guess we can
Speaker 5: start there. Well, let's start with a little introduction on you, tempest.
Speaker 5: How long have you been writing books? How long have
Speaker 5: you ghosthroat in y'all, her name is on the book, so.
Speaker 1: You go through. I guess you can't talk about them
Speaker 1: ghost I cannot.
Speaker 6: I cannot talk about them because I will get sued,
Speaker 6: I know, and my name's not there, and it's just
Speaker 6: always one name there, and I get a little salty
Speaker 6: about that.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know, because I don't know what.
Speaker 4: Ever got like ghost writing makes you feel, though, because
Speaker 4: I've always wondered, like you know, there's so many situations
Speaker 4: where producers can feel like this too, a lot, yeah,
Speaker 4: where you make something happen and you're like, damn, someone's
Speaker 4: getting all the credit.
Speaker 6: I just had a big book come out, and it
Speaker 6: was so painful not to see my name anywhere, like
Speaker 6: and not be mentioned, and hear the person talking as
Speaker 6: if they did it all magically on their own. Yes,
Speaker 6: which is another reason I can't say who it is, right,
Speaker 6: but it was really really painful.
Speaker 1: Well, we couldn't afford the ghost writing.
Speaker 6: Price, Thank goodness, thank you. I'd rather have my name
Speaker 6: on the book. I'll give you a discount. Let's do this.
Speaker 6: I would rather get some credit.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I think even we've
Speaker 5: we've shared and we've said it.
Speaker 1: All the time.
Speaker 5: Mind you, this is on black published privilege, black privilege
Speaker 5: publishing with Charlemagne, and I think that we constantly give.
Speaker 5: I don't think this show continues on without the push
Speaker 5: and support that we've gotten from Charlemagne. And I think
Speaker 5: that's to be said about this book too. I think
Speaker 5: for the direction we wanted to go with certain of
Speaker 5: the chapters, how we wanted it to sound, I don't
Speaker 5: think it gets to the completed version without you being
Speaker 5: a part of this project. So putting your name on
Speaker 5: the book wasn't like a hard decision. I mean, like
Speaker 5: I wasn't mad at that, and the name is kind
Speaker 5: of fly.
Speaker 4: The X really made it like h Williams be like all.
Speaker 5: Right, I mean Williams is still a black I still
Speaker 5: do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like if it was if it was something.
Speaker 6: With a burger at the end, I don't know if yeah,
Speaker 6: you know, I don't think well, I don't think you
Speaker 6: would have been interviewing me to start with.
Speaker 4: Then you're right, tell us like before writing, oh well,
Speaker 4: before you started writing books and before you started helping
Speaker 4: us write decisions not Noel's barred bad day. I really
Speaker 4: want to know when you were reading dirty books, romantic stuff, erotica.
Speaker 6: Yeah, how did it pair up with my beach reads?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 6: Yes, my beach treats where I'm reading on the beach
Speaker 6: and I'm getting really excited and my husband's.
Speaker 4: Like yes, which, ironically the beach scene is in the book,
Speaker 4: but like yeah, like, how do you feel like they
Speaker 4: measure up with No holds barred?
Speaker 3: Because this is super juicy, Like did it feel different
Speaker 3: reading this?
Speaker 6: And it feels much different reading it since I helped
Speaker 6: to create it with you guys, But it it's actually
Speaker 6: juicier than I thought it was going to be and
Speaker 6: then more grounded at the same time than I thought
Speaker 6: it was going to be, which is pretty amazing.
Speaker 3: Like definitely more grounded than I thought too.
Speaker 6: That's like a huge duality, right, like juicy as hell,
Speaker 6: but like really reflective of you guys.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 5: I'm glad we was able to get on the ground
Speaker 5: and not be in a clouds. Like I love this
Speaker 5: book and what it shows with the growth of each
Speaker 5: of our individual journeys. Yes, but also like when we
Speaker 5: first started this goddamn book, the chapters and stories that
Speaker 5: we wanted changed. I had when we first started, when
Speaker 5: I first met you, I had a boyfriend and I
Speaker 5: think we were trying to put him in, like I
Speaker 5: had these stories about being in love and then while
Speaker 5: we're writing, I fucking break up with him and hate
Speaker 5: him in your life.
Speaker 6: And Weezy didn't have.
Speaker 3: We had to add the love chapter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she didn't have. I didn't.
Speaker 3: It been hole scared that ended up in yep.
Speaker 1: I love that. Just to get dark, y'all.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, I'm not gonna say what it was. Okay,
Speaker 4: but there was a chapter about New York that fell
Speaker 4: short and we didn't get a lot of edits back
Speaker 4: on it, and it was just like I think the
Speaker 4: publisher was like, can you dig deeper?
Speaker 3: Yes? And I know it wasn't our favorite to write,
Speaker 3: but it was really fun.
Speaker 4: It was like a New York sex story and it
Speaker 4: was just like name of my favorite places in New York.
Speaker 4: And then I remember where it was when I wrote
Speaker 4: that chapter, and literally Temp's called me and was like,
Speaker 4: I am so impressed. I'm so proud of you. This
Speaker 4: might be my favorite chapter. I'm like this, yeah, literally, Mandy.
Speaker 4: It was crazy because it was like, if this chapter
Speaker 4: is not good enough, what can I say about New York?
Speaker 3: Let's just talk about That's how I was gonna kill myself.
Speaker 1: Like, this book is fucking nuts.
Speaker 6: You did tell us and you like really bared your soul.
Speaker 6: And I'm actually pissed at myself because if I had
Speaker 6: known that you would dig that deep when pushed and
Speaker 6: pushed and pushed, I would have rowed your ass harder
Speaker 6: the whole time.
Speaker 1: What else can I would have rowed your ass harder?
Speaker 1: What else do we got out of this? Listen?
Speaker 3: We have to ride your ass chapter.
Speaker 6: We do have a roger ass chapter.
Speaker 4: N But like it really is kind of crazy when
Speaker 4: you think about you know, just like pressure and diamond
Speaker 4: making and type shit, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 4: thinking that that story was there and didn't go until
Speaker 4: the very end. It was very, very being changed. And
Speaker 4: I wonder if being able to go through those things.
Speaker 4: I've been having conversations with friends, like my most successful
Speaker 4: friends have really fucked up stories.
Speaker 3: My happiest friends went through really dark times. Of course
Speaker 3: at least happy.
Speaker 4: Today and it makes me think about that. It's like
Speaker 4: you kind of have to fail a little bit to
Speaker 4: get gold.
Speaker 6: You have to know the darkness to know.
Speaker 1: And even my.
Speaker 4: Breakup, like your chapters were fired even though I'm thinking
Speaker 4: they're gonna be boyfriend related and then they're painful, but
Speaker 4: they were so good to read because what woman hasn't
Speaker 4: been through fucking heartbreak?
Speaker 3: Like that's reality.
Speaker 5: I do also want to make mention because I don't
Speaker 5: think Charlemagne was pro this. Actually mentioned it after our
Speaker 5: show at Sony Hall. He sends us our cover art
Speaker 5: and is like, now, this would be a great book cover,
Speaker 5: and I said, so.
Speaker 1: We literally had to tell.
Speaker 5: Charlemagne it was so intentional for our faces not to
Speaker 5: be on the cover of this book because we didn't
Speaker 5: want it to be like a memoir where people would
Speaker 5: not give a fuck about these two biracial bitches if
Speaker 5: they never heard the goddamn podcast, And.
Speaker 1: We wanted it to be to where any woman saw
Speaker 1: this book, picked it up and is like, now what
Speaker 1: is this?
Speaker 5: So the lips, the funness of the font, everything was
Speaker 5: so intentional, y'all.
Speaker 1: We spent weeks going back and forth. I also on
Speaker 1: this hour.
Speaker 4: Look would make someone think the book isn't serious. I
Speaker 4: think when you see alternative looks, young yes, young faces
Speaker 4: make me think I'm not going to get too much depth.
Speaker 4: It's gonna make me think, what the fuck am I
Speaker 4: going to learn from you? Like a manifesto?
Speaker 3: Like I'm not a.
Speaker 6: Like, like why are you writing a manifesto yet?
Speaker 3: But the other thing is I hated feeling like.
Speaker 4: Everybody makes me feel when I'm talking about horrible decisions,
Speaker 4: like it's just these fans. And I think it's because
Speaker 4: it's been so many years, right that I was really thinking,
Speaker 4: like why the fuck would I write a book just
Speaker 4: for them? These people are going to appreciate it, are
Speaker 4: gonna love it. The world needs this book. Yeah, people
Speaker 4: who listen to Horrible I'm grateful they found this, But
Speaker 4: what about the girl that would love it that hasn't
Speaker 4: heard it yet? Like I love when I meet someone
Speaker 4: new eight years and it's like I just started listening
Speaker 4: a few weeks ago and I'm like, damn, for real.
Speaker 6: This book is literally for every person. I can't think
Speaker 6: of one person that is female that I know in
Speaker 6: any age range who I wouldn't give this book to.
Speaker 3: You now what about the men. I'm men gonna pickure.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 5: I think I was gonna be bit queer, but no,
Speaker 5: I do think men, especially our fan base, yes, it
Speaker 5: will really appreciate this book. And I think it will
Speaker 5: give them what this podcast has given them for eight year,
Speaker 5: an insight on us navigating relationships with them, us navigating
Speaker 5: our sexual bodies, and our uncomfortableness with feeling safe. I
Speaker 5: think that was a big thing for me during this book.
Speaker 5: I had an epiphany in therapy that, Wow, in talking
Speaker 5: about my sexual assault and talking about me navigating sex
Speaker 5: and talking about my last relationship, I haven't really felt
Speaker 5: safe with men and navigating that, and so within like
Speaker 5: the chapters, like, I really appreciate what this book brought
Speaker 5: in the time that I needed it for my therapy journey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I definitely brought that to the book.
Speaker 6: You literally started here and ended up in an entirely
Speaker 6: different place.
Speaker 1: Do you think of it?
Speaker 6: I mean a little bit, But that's what any good
Speaker 6: writer does, Like, especially if you're working with other people,
Speaker 6: you bring out the best in them, You bring out
Speaker 6: juice of your stories. You make them feel comfortable, which
Speaker 6: is a really big deal for a writer, like what
Speaker 6: if you guys hated me, Like you aren't going to
Speaker 6: tell me anything?
Speaker 1: Oh, I hold you? I got hold you.
Speaker 5: Me and Simpis was on the phone and I And
Speaker 5: what makes this so different than horrible decisions too? Decisions
Speaker 5: decisions I lean so much into my childhood. So there's
Speaker 5: niggas I'm talking about from like middle school, and me
Speaker 5: and Simpis are writing and.
Speaker 1: I'm like explaining it. I'm like, let me go find
Speaker 1: their Facebook.
Speaker 5: Yes, And I'm literally pulling up Facebook pages of niggas
Speaker 5: that I thought I loved in middle school and high school,
Speaker 5: like nah man, but let me show you how good
Speaker 5: he looks now.
Speaker 1: He was such a cute little boy.
Speaker 4: What's interesting, too, is it's different from gossiping about it,
Speaker 4: because when someone's writing it with you, you kind of
Speaker 4: do need to see it, Like we write a chapter
Speaker 4: about this white dude who is fine. But I also
Speaker 4: was like, I'm sitting here telling her about this white
Speaker 4: man being fine, and I need her to understand when I.
Speaker 3: Got on my knees like that.
Speaker 6: And then when I saw him, I was like, I
Speaker 6: will get on my knees for you. And I went
Speaker 6: home and told my husband, like.
Speaker 7: Hall passed, Oh yeah, I lie, I might need you
Speaker 7: to sign an NDA because this is not a Confessions
Speaker 7: of a Video Vixen book, but there's quite a few
Speaker 7: celebrities within our stories.
Speaker 1: Yes, And I had to be like, timp is this
Speaker 1: going talk about girl? Just so you understand, I'm going
Speaker 1: to keep it.
Speaker 6: I'm going to keep it to myself, Like if I
Speaker 6: can talk about books that I wrote, if I'm not
Speaker 6: leaking that information, I'm going to do that. I'm not
Speaker 6: gonna do it.
Speaker 4: What do you think was the juiciest thing from each
Speaker 4: of us where you were like what the fuck? When
Speaker 4: we were or so Basically how a lot of our
Speaker 4: writing process works is we would write it out, submit
Speaker 4: it to Tempest and she'd be like, this is how
Speaker 4: we're making it a story, helping us edit it, just
Speaker 4: adding some good to me, not the word transition. But
Speaker 4: I feel like I was jumping around a lot, like
Speaker 4: how did we get here?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I just knew how to get words on a page
Speaker 4: or tell a story, but it's like, okay, we need
Speaker 4: to be.
Speaker 6: There had to be the thread to make it a
Speaker 6: real threat.
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you think we've sent to you? For
Speaker 4: both of us, where you were like, this is crazy.
Speaker 6: I mean, can I say it? Because I kind of
Speaker 6: want to keep some secrets.
Speaker 5: People read, well, that's okay, you no, I know, how
Speaker 5: do you not know.
Speaker 3: The blood?
Speaker 5: But I'm pretty sure that never aired. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 5: they edited, they waited too much to be shared with
Speaker 5: what I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure that got cut out.
Speaker 6: No, yeah, that was like, oh.
Speaker 1: You can say it here because it wasn't on the back.
Speaker 6: Okay, So uh, there's a part where suddenly there was
Speaker 6: talking of what's the name of the movie again, saltburn
Speaker 6: saltburn blood, different kind of blood.
Speaker 4: Which is crazy because throughout the whole theme of this podcast,
Speaker 4: maybe he has joked with me about loving blood or
Speaker 4: like him because I have periods because I have period sex.
Speaker 4: That's been our joke. Yes, the fact that it got there, I.
Speaker 6: Was like, I was reading it and first of all,
Speaker 6: the chapter starts out like really lovely and like it's
Speaker 6: about love and it's romantic and it's funny and it's cute.
Speaker 6: And then suddenly this is happening and I was like, oh, oh,
Speaker 6: so this is where we're at now, This is where
Speaker 6: we're at now, and like, what about his leather interior.
Speaker 1: That's what I was most worried about in his that's
Speaker 1: easy to wipe all.
Speaker 3: So funny is leather interiors are Actually he got the
Speaker 3: arm and hammer, white eye.
Speaker 6: I was, I don't know. I didn't know that, you know.
Speaker 4: About what he's willing to do for love. So these
Speaker 4: past few weeks we were in Highland, I realized he
Speaker 4: has a very low tolerance for certain things.
Speaker 3: Like every day he was like, which toothbrush is mine?
Speaker 1: Which toothbrush is mine?
Speaker 3: Fine? Right?
Speaker 4: I don't like sharing toothbrushes either, But I was like,
Speaker 4: at one point, did you eat my.
Speaker 1: Period blood and my blood?
Speaker 6: You ate my period blood in a car?
Speaker 1: Blood is different than blaque? Never? But does he like
Speaker 1: it's metal.
Speaker 3: I would rather use your toothbrush than eat your period blood, right.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I would rather do neither.
Speaker 6: I don't want im plaque.
Speaker 3: But anyway, a good chapter name. We missed out.
Speaker 6: Book number two.
Speaker 1: But there's other ship like something with his hair. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: just use lying.
Speaker 3: He's like, no, I'm good.
Speaker 1: You ain't my blood. That is crazy. That is iron,
Speaker 1: that's crazy talks. But you know what I really.
Speaker 6: Think off of a plane too, right, oh, girl, disgusting
Speaker 6: when we get it was a summer day.
Speaker 1: We a vampire? Was this the night? Does he come
Speaker 1: out during the day. I've never seen him during the day. No, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, never.
Speaker 5: Seen him during in the day, Like I never that
Speaker 5: you got an old.
Speaker 1: Vampire, nigga.
Speaker 5: No, he's like, he comes, see if we have to
Speaker 5: invite him in. Y'all know you gotta invite vampire. Let's
Speaker 5: see if he'll just open the door by his goddamn.
Speaker 4: It's so crazy too, because one of my homegirls calls
Speaker 4: him a warlock because he just talks to animals really
Speaker 4: well people do and like also people respond to him, right, Yes,
Speaker 4: we were walking on the street and this girl literally
Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, I love you and walked off.
Speaker 4: When we go out, sometimes random people want to take
Speaker 4: a picture with him, It's like, what the fuck is this?
Speaker 3: So my homegirl swears he's a.
Speaker 6: Fucking magic I guess of some sort.
Speaker 1: But what's that movie with both of them?
Speaker 6: Which one it got?
Speaker 1: The vampires in the Warlock? Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they know that only has wolves and vampires though,
Speaker 5: right it.
Speaker 6: Has wear wolves and yes, so y'all have never ate
Speaker 6: up period.
Speaker 1: Plus he just want to get this by the way,
Speaker 1: that was editing camera admitting, yes, I don't know.
Speaker 6: Differently right now.
Speaker 4: I feel like Wolf has a standard of cleanliness just
Speaker 4: because it's from the vegan shit.
Speaker 1: You know, thank you. I told y'all plug in the top.
Speaker 1: I told y'all that girl.
Speaker 5: That that that broke up with me because she didn't
Speaker 5: want me to be the girlfriend and the couple.
Speaker 1: It was. It just came on and she did eat
Speaker 1: my pussy with a tampon it. But it had just
Speaker 1: came on at dinner, so I was literally one hour
Speaker 1: into my period. Yea, oh, so that is, but I
Speaker 1: would never do that. Also would want to do it again.
Speaker 3: Volume two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't wasn't okay, It wasn't okay.
Speaker 6: You want to know, Mandy's my favorite thing. That was
Speaker 6: juicy and Mandy sure that night in that hotel room
Speaker 6: when you decided you were going to give him the
Speaker 6: back door.
Speaker 5: And you were just which is crazy if you guys,
Speaker 5: that story is actually told here on the podcast. Yes,
Speaker 5: it's when I had the anal orgasm with twenty four seven.
Speaker 6: Even reading it, I was like, you felt it in
Speaker 6: yours I was like, I want my ass to and
Speaker 6: I did.
Speaker 1: And I gave detail. You know what's crazy.
Speaker 5: I feel like because that was a story that I did,
Speaker 5: was able to go and like.
Speaker 1: Knew what had happened.
Speaker 5: I was able to literally transport back there to put
Speaker 5: those words on back there. Listen, yes, by the way,
Speaker 5: shout out to y'all as an audience. That chapter is
Speaker 5: called you can put it back there? And it's it's
Speaker 5: can you put it?
Speaker 6: And you put it?
Speaker 1: Can you put it back there? Have you ever seen
Speaker 1: that clip?
Speaker 4: No, Vinnie was here, we were we were we were
Speaker 4: in Harlem. We were in Harlem, so we had Vinnie on.
Speaker 4: I think we're about to go on tour. Maybe he
Speaker 4: was visiting me.
Speaker 3: I'll remember.
Speaker 4: But I'm making jokes with Mandy about how she says
Speaker 4: a on once a quarter. I'm like, so, how do
Speaker 4: you know you're ready? She goes, I let them. She
Speaker 4: said it very matter of fact. I just think, actually,
Speaker 4: I want you to try to put this side by
Speaker 4: side because I think I know the cadence.
Speaker 3: Where's the camera this one?
Speaker 1: What do you mean?
Speaker 3: What do I do? I literally looking at my say,
Speaker 3: you can put it back there.
Speaker 1: It's open for you. I just kept saying, I know
Speaker 1: you want a bootlehole. You want to get an a
Speaker 1: if you want to get a name, you really say
Speaker 1: booty hole? Or is that like a horrible decision. You
Speaker 1: can put it. You can put it back there, like
Speaker 1: it's open.
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 1: You can put it back you can get it back there.
Speaker 6: Nobody says no, you can put back there.
Speaker 1: You can put it back there. You know it's open
Speaker 1: for you. It's crazy.
Speaker 5: I will say this, Uh, this process, even the chapter
Speaker 5: wasn't as much as my delivery can be kind of brashed.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: The team will know it, especially if I don't like something.
Speaker 5: So in the beginning of writing this book, y'all, yes,
Speaker 5: I was so insecure about my ability to put words
Speaker 5: to paper, words to laptop. You know, Florida education school
Speaker 5: system always blame them, but I feel insecure about how
Speaker 5: I form sentences, and so I let Tempest know that
Speaker 5: out the gate. So I'm like, hey, let me just
Speaker 5: tell you what I want the chapter to be. I
Speaker 5: want it to sound like me. Though Wheezy chapter is
Speaker 5: gonna sound like her. I want my chapters to sound
Speaker 5: like me. And so we spent like four hours together
Speaker 5: for our first writing session for the first chapter. We
Speaker 5: were like, let's get our flow start. We spent four
Speaker 5: hours together. I'm recording, she's recording. We have recording devices happening,
Speaker 5: and she's walking through how I want to chronologicalize this
Speaker 5: goddamn chapter.
Speaker 3: Is that a word?
Speaker 1: Chronologicalize? It is now?
Speaker 5: And so we spent four hours together. She's like, Okay,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take all these audio notes. We know how
Speaker 5: we want to lay out this this chapter, and I'm
Speaker 5: gonna write.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send it to you to approven edit y'all.
Speaker 5: She sent me the chapter and I'm reading it and
Speaker 5: I think I might have texted like tippus, can we
Speaker 5: talk real quick?
Speaker 1: And I don't know a.
Speaker 5: Nice way to do? We talking for the next day.
Speaker 5: We had a two day thing, so she comes the
Speaker 5: next day. I make sure, Hey, what type of food
Speaker 5: do you want? Mediterranean?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna order our lunch.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I got buttered up first, and I.
Speaker 5: Look at her because I don't know how to say
Speaker 5: things very nicely, and I said, tempest, I fucking hate it.
Speaker 5: And then what it sounds terrible? I said, this is
Speaker 5: not how I like to read. Oh my god, it's
Speaker 5: awful and y'all know what. Timpus looked at me and said, well,
Speaker 5: I wrote it.
Speaker 1: How you sound.
Speaker 5: It's like, I sound like a fucking dummy. I said,
Speaker 5: this reads so terribly.
Speaker 6: I think it was also it was also in your defense.
Speaker 6: We didn't know each other yet, no, and you were
Speaker 6: very like when we first started, I think all of us,
Speaker 6: like everybody was like a little like, oh, we don't
Speaker 6: know each other yet, we don't know what's going on.
Speaker 6: Like so I think there was also like a nervous
Speaker 6: energy about sharing your stories with me. So you were
Speaker 6: pausing a lot. You were pausing a lot lot.
Speaker 1: So I was like, the bit she ended all themned sentences.
Speaker 6: So I had these tiny little sentences because that's how
Speaker 6: you were saying things to me, funny. And I was like,
Speaker 6: I hated it too, Like example, I hated it too.
Speaker 6: It was just like and then we one here and
Speaker 6: this period, and then this happened next period, and I
Speaker 6: was like, I was like, that's happen.
Speaker 5: So she's like, okay, let me see how you write. Yes,
Speaker 5: I need you to write this chapter. And I guess
Speaker 5: we started with our introduction yep, and I wrote my
Speaker 5: entire introduction beginning to end, and baby, I write with
Speaker 5: run on sentences if you want to like, it just
Speaker 5: goes and flows, and I want all the adjectives, all
Speaker 5: the details to fit. I'll be like comma semi collin
Speaker 5: comma comma however, comma like where I could.
Speaker 6: There were a couple of times I had to be
Speaker 6: like no.
Speaker 1: She was like, bitch, this is three sentences.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: We can break about the stress of turning in chapters too.
Speaker 3: I kind of miss writing.
Speaker 1: A little bit, like you do.
Speaker 3: There's this part of me that felt like it was
Speaker 3: super stressful.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but then at the same time, I'm like, that
Speaker 4: was kind of fun. I know, I need to talk
Speaker 4: about that one night that I was on my knees
Speaker 4: getting punished by Monday.
Speaker 1: I kind of miss it. I like it.
Speaker 6: I loved writing this book with you guys.
Speaker 3: It really fun.
Speaker 6: It was really fun. It ended up being really fun.
Speaker 4: I think it was dark times in the book. And
Speaker 4: so I guess we should explain how this book is.
Speaker 6: Can I say one more thing about Mandy and her writing?
Speaker 8: Then?
Speaker 6: So Mandy writes beautifully. She sends me this chapter and
Speaker 6: I looked at you, and what did I say? I
Speaker 6: said that's how I naturally write. Yeah, she literally, what
Speaker 6: the hell? Oh no, she said, I don't know if
Speaker 6: we recorded anything else. Bitch, you're writing yep.
Speaker 1: And I'm going back, and I really I really enjoyed writing.
Speaker 4: Do you feel like, because we're both chatty and podcasters,
Speaker 4: do you feel like we were both wordy or one
Speaker 4: was wordier than the other.
Speaker 3: I think that maybe describe those styles.
Speaker 6: I think that the styles are totally different.
Speaker 1: It's like, which is great. It's like, that's why this
Speaker 1: book can be for anybody.
Speaker 6: But it's like knowing you guys now right, Like I
Speaker 6: really know you both, so you're both totally different in
Speaker 6: real life too. So Mandy loves a sentence that I
Speaker 6: had to chop up and be like, this is a
Speaker 6: paragraph five sentences, like I don't know what you're thinking here,
Speaker 6: And you love like outside of the box, like funny things,
Speaker 6: but you also like you'll take it out of normal structure.
Speaker 6: You're like, now it's like a screenplay suddenly, and now
Speaker 6: I'm doing this, and now it's a text message and
Speaker 6: what about this? And what about that? And that was
Speaker 6: really really fun for me because I like to write everything.
Speaker 1: I really like.
Speaker 4: Dialogue when I'm reading, so I never thought I was
Speaker 4: gonna write it that way, and it's not like it's
Speaker 4: not in the other So, for example, what Temphis is
Speaker 4: saying is like more of Mandy's dialogue.
Speaker 3: Is actual quotations.
Speaker 4: Its told how he was feeling, yes, whereas mine is
Speaker 4: like this breaks out and I'm breaking it out line
Speaker 4: by line, and I think, really, it's how we're telling
Speaker 4: stories in our head. I was really trying to describe it. Also,
Speaker 4: how people like receiving storytelling from me on Horrible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was thinking, Okay.
Speaker 4: Maybe I am jumping around a lot, maybe I am
Speaker 4: this So I want to not lose so much of
Speaker 4: the sauce, right, like you don't want to change what
Speaker 4: works too much, And that's what I was fearful of
Speaker 4: with writing.
Speaker 3: But I'm glad that no one lost it.
Speaker 6: No one lost it. And the greatest thing that we
Speaker 6: heard in any of the meetings with Simon and Schuster
Speaker 6: to me was when they were like, your voices are
Speaker 6: so different, like I don't have to look at whose
Speaker 6: name is at the top of this chapter to know
Speaker 6: whose chapter this is. And that was the main thing
Speaker 6: that I wanted to get across. I really wanted each
Speaker 6: of your voices to come through, and I think we
Speaker 6: really achieved that, and I'm so happy.
Speaker 5: So we start this chapter by introducing us as podcasters.
Speaker 5: Then we break out for almost the rest of the
Speaker 5: book in an introduction of myself, an introduction of Weezy,
Speaker 5: and then we've broken this book into four different parts pleasure, pain, progression, power,
Speaker 5: And I want to lean into each of those chapters,
Speaker 5: or each of those segments just a little bit because
Speaker 5: we bring about themes in this book where you do
Speaker 5: have sex. We also included like a guide and ways
Speaker 5: to help you kind of navigate whatever journey you're in.
Speaker 5: And we have let me do the math, Let me
Speaker 5: do the math six. That's eighteen. We have about eighteen
Speaker 5: different stories. So even if you've never experienced a non
Speaker 5: monogamous relationship, you've experienced a heartbreak, If you haven't experienced
Speaker 5: sorry trigger warning. If you haven't experienced a rate, maybe
Speaker 5: you've experienced an abortion. If you haven't experienced a thruple,
Speaker 5: maybe you've experienced just a one off partner where y'all
Speaker 5: had threesomes. I think this book literally can relate to
Speaker 5: anybody at any time of their sexual journey and them
Speaker 5: trying to find confidence within themselves as a woman.
Speaker 4: Through all of the things I think this book, and
Speaker 4: that's why I think for men it would be good too.
Speaker 4: It's good as a standalone like without it being a guide.
Speaker 4: But some of the things that I haven't liked about
Speaker 4: why this book is going to be popular. I'm not
Speaker 4: a fan of self help or guide books. I like
Speaker 4: the juicier storytelling thing, and so I'm glad that this
Speaker 4: book has that. And I'm glad we both got what
Speaker 4: we wanted because it really gives both. But I like
Speaker 4: that you still don't need the guidebook if you have
Speaker 4: it all figured out in your life and you're listening
Speaker 4: and you're just like nobody.
Speaker 1: Ever they are.
Speaker 4: Yes, these girls are a goddamn mess and they're funny
Speaker 4: to listen to, then the book is still for you.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say, even if you like housewives and like
Speaker 5: to read the mess of other people's lives, it's all
Speaker 5: in here like I talk about, And I think what
Speaker 5: was great about this was me tapping into my childhood
Speaker 5: and why I am the way I am today. So bitch,
Speaker 5: if y'all don't understand why the fuck I'm this motherfucking
Speaker 5: crazy with my own thoughts on relationships.
Speaker 1: You'll know by the end of the book.
Speaker 5: So I did want to lean into pleasure because we
Speaker 5: start the book off that way, because the other has
Speaker 5: to be fucking.
Speaker 6: Can we say one thing, though, Can we say that
Speaker 6: when we did the book proposal together, we had no
Speaker 6: idea that Simon and Schuster was going to tell us
Speaker 6: we want a prescriptive book. And yeah, that's remember, like
Speaker 6: we had a whole different idea. So then we did,
Speaker 6: like we had a totally different book.
Speaker 5: All I know is once I knew I could write
Speaker 5: my own chapter's therapy was going in this shit for me?
Speaker 5: Oh yes, so to me, I don't think I would
Speaker 5: have done a book if there wasn't.
Speaker 6: I think for yours would have been naturally that way.
Speaker 6: And then I think you leaned into it at first,
Speaker 6: kicking and screaming a little bit.
Speaker 4: I think I was kicking and screaming though, because no offense.
Speaker 4: We don't have answers here, right, right, This is a
Speaker 4: book where and I knew that going into it, and
Speaker 4: I didn't like that. I didn't like that publishers and
Speaker 4: people wanted us to tell people what to do.
Speaker 6: You know, what's interesting.
Speaker 3: I don't really like that.
Speaker 6: I think you guys have more answers than you think.
Speaker 3: I think we do from our own right.
Speaker 4: So for example, two different things, right, I would say
Speaker 4: a Shan Boodie has the answers because she went to school,
Speaker 4: give them to you. She knows the sign, and so
Speaker 4: that will look like right, that's exactly what I'm trying
Speaker 4: to say.
Speaker 1: But it's why we don't have MD be like we
Speaker 1: have met.
Speaker 3: No, there's no and so medical and I'm brought up
Speaker 3: Shan just now.
Speaker 4: It's really because I think it's been a great comp
Speaker 4: every time someone like compares and I'm when I say someone,
Speaker 4: it's normally when I'm talking like a TV network or
Speaker 4: someone that just kind of like is trying to figure
Speaker 4: out who we are. And I think what's so cool
Speaker 4: about this book is all of our reflection, is us
Speaker 4: learning through our own fuck up, Like this isn't something
Speaker 4: that we were like, oh hey, yeah, we know that.
Speaker 6: Which is how most of us learn, right, Like, oh,
Speaker 6: maybe I shouldn't do that again.
Speaker 4: So what my fear was initially with the Kicking Screams
Speaker 4: is that I hated thinking someone could pick up this
Speaker 4: book and felt like I was being preachy when for
Speaker 4: a fright, yeah, and so learning how the structure ended
Speaker 4: up coming together and seeing that it was really like
Speaker 4: unfolding at the bottom of every chapter, like hey, like,
Speaker 4: now this is what you do, almost as a horrible
Speaker 4: decision correction. I feel like when I used to describe
Speaker 4: horrible decisions formerly, right was basically us sharing this crazy,
Speaker 4: wild story and kind of reflecting on what we have
Speaker 4: done different. Maybe we were owning the whole thing, whatever
Speaker 4: it was, it felt like it was coming together with
Speaker 4: this lesson learned and the book ended up having it
Speaker 4: and it felt so natural.
Speaker 5: I mean, I wanted to lean into pleasure while they're there.
Speaker 5: I know we talked about can I put it back
Speaker 5: there because it's not preachy. So for that chapter specifically,
Speaker 5: I literally go chronologically from my homophobic views around anal
Speaker 5: sex and how I literally thought anal sex were just
Speaker 5: for two men, and how no woman growing up had
Speaker 5: a really good experience about anal sex at all. It
Speaker 5: wasn't talked about, we didn't have the sexual education around it.
Speaker 5: So I go from literally being homophobic yep, and I
Speaker 5: addressed my homophobia loud and clear, especially living in Atlanta
Speaker 5: early on with these views yep. Two, then me experiencing
Speaker 5: and allowing a man to have anal sex with me,
Speaker 5: it not being enjoyable first at all, but being open
Speaker 5: to experiencing it again, to eventually being called pegda stallion,
Speaker 5: and going from.
Speaker 1: Homophobia to bending Nikasova.
Speaker 5: So it's literally it's that type of chapter where I'm
Speaker 5: not going to be preaching to you. I'm addressing my
Speaker 5: own biases, my own ways of having to unlearn things,
Speaker 5: which is I think all we've said on this pod
Speaker 5: so long. We've all been taught so many things that
Speaker 5: we have to unlearn, especially in order to get the
Speaker 5: most out of sex. And so that chapter for me
Speaker 5: literally leans into telling you, y'ah, I was doing research.
Speaker 5: I was pulling out statistics and all the things because
Speaker 5: I'm like, why are we taught this? Oh well, when
Speaker 5: we're growing up in black communities and leaning into.
Speaker 6: The church, there's a strong.
Speaker 5: Sense of homophobia that exists, which is why antal sex
Speaker 5: is not discussed about the pleasures that it could be.
Speaker 5: And so it gives you like a whole thing, I
Speaker 5: love it. Now give me antal sex, baby, Do not
Speaker 5: make that a clip, all right? But of like experiencing
Speaker 5: pleasures and all my holes, like if I could be
Speaker 5: fucked in the nose.
Speaker 4: I probably because when your mom did our live show,
Speaker 4: that was what she said.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that she wants to be fucked in
Speaker 1: all of her orfices? That's it?
Speaker 4: And I was like, all my orfices. But that's how
Speaker 4: you know her mom's in the medical field. She said,
Speaker 4: I'll never forget that. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: in every orfice maybe that was so.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So like that chapter for me was one we wrote
Speaker 5: that one fairly quickly. Yeah, we did that was it
Speaker 5: wasn't until we had to get like a little deeper,
Speaker 5: barely got edited.
Speaker 1: No, that one. And then ironically, so the next way
Speaker 1: that you felt about it, they were like yeah too.
Speaker 5: They were like, oh, the next segment that I kind
Speaker 5: of want to lean into because what's crazy is we
Speaker 5: started with pain and was like, we can't start the
Speaker 5: book off this way.
Speaker 1: Right, so pain is our second Well.
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, I do want to talk about my pleasure chapters?
Speaker 1: Oh? I thought we did that with the blood. No,
Speaker 1: that's okay.
Speaker 4: So what's crazy about the pleasure chapters for me was
Speaker 4: I was digging into sex stories and two out of
Speaker 4: three of them were about a woman like m HM
Speaker 4: arts and craft, and I remember thinking to myself, and
Speaker 4: this didn't come out until the end of the book.
Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, why do you think I need
Speaker 4: to talk about her in this one? And you're like,
Speaker 4: will you bring her up in every chapter?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You do.
Speaker 4: And there was so much that I didn't realize shaped
Speaker 4: my pleasure, sensory anything. The way I see sex, the
Speaker 4: way I have sex, my intimacy, the emotionalness of everything
Speaker 4: that I do was because of the attraction to women.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so gay. At one point, I thank
Speaker 3: you for helping.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 6: Scissors is outside of YouTube. She's my favorite other character
Speaker 6: that's in here because she really taught you about love.
Speaker 6: She really has to come to New York City, and
Speaker 6: I think that, Uh, I don't know that you realize
Speaker 6: that until you started writing all this, And then I
Speaker 6: was like, why Scissors in every chapter.
Speaker 4: There's a letter I write to her? Yeah, in the book,
Speaker 4: because you told me that. Yes, she basically tempests. When
Speaker 4: I said she was saying to me like, yes, like
Speaker 4: this is how you know how to love. I was like, damn,
Speaker 4: Like there's an apology that needs happened here.
Speaker 3: Anna, thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because sometimes there's moments where I talk about her
Speaker 4: on this podcast where I don't think I give her
Speaker 4: enough credit because the throut bullshit was so exciting for
Speaker 4: everybody to hear about that. You really almost didn't understand
Speaker 4: how serious and how loving this central relationship was, yes,
Speaker 4: and the healthiness of it too. I'm talking about bringing
Speaker 4: people in a space. Mandy and I both sex clubs
Speaker 4: and just exploring with partners. That was the first healthy
Speaker 4: like let's bring someone in.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 6: I couldn't even even how sweet you guys were to
Speaker 6: each other, getting ready and so excited and like fixing
Speaker 6: each other's wigs and like it's my wig on straight,
Speaker 6: Like yeah.
Speaker 3: That ship was crazy, Like I just did not think so.
Speaker 4: Yeah when Mandy said it's for queer people, the pleasure
Speaker 4: is very gay.
Speaker 1: Pleasure is fun. Pleasure is where I.
Speaker 5: Find the couple in Mexico. So that story from the
Speaker 5: podcast made.
Speaker 6: It in Now my husband keeps asking me when we
Speaker 6: can have.
Speaker 1: We all going to Mexico. He's like, he's like to.
Speaker 6: Have a unicorn experience. I'm like, no, boom.
Speaker 1: Did he ever know?
Speaker 3: Did he ever like fully read a chapter with you?
Speaker 6: I would read it to him as I was working,
Speaker 6: and he would be like, just did oh I know
Speaker 6: he was warning he was he was like, they already
Speaker 6: know what to do. He wouldn't say all that. I'd
Speaker 6: be like, like my little sisters.
Speaker 5: So after the pleasure segment we go to pain, yes,
Speaker 5: and it was really important for us to not make
Speaker 5: pain all about hurt yep. And so this is where
Speaker 5: we're able to tie in the element of BDSM because
Speaker 5: there's there's also pleasure and pain sometimes there is. So
Speaker 5: we do add a trigger warning at the top of
Speaker 5: this book because, like I said, there are elements of
Speaker 5: sexual assault and abortion and heartbreak and all the things
Speaker 5: that could trigger somebody in.
Speaker 4: This book really like I think my three were a
Speaker 4: BDSM pain, literal sexual violence like violent rape scene, and
Speaker 4: then fucking heartbreak.
Speaker 3: And it was like, yo, I don't think that anything
Speaker 3: in this Pickton.
Speaker 4: Chapter that anyone, even male, can't relate to true because
Speaker 4: it's so fucking common. And what we did in the
Speaker 4: book that I was kind of like, ah, is this
Speaker 4: really gonna hit But it did was we started putting
Speaker 4: stats in there, like how calm and what's happening to me?
Speaker 1: One in four women like it's crazy.
Speaker 4: It is even when it comes to the psyche, just
Speaker 4: using little things we found online through surveys or whatever,
Speaker 4: like figuring out what heartbreak does to your body or brain.
Speaker 4: I just was so impressed with. I think pain is
Speaker 4: my favorite section of.
Speaker 3: The book because it's kind of hot, but it also
Speaker 3: makes me cry.
Speaker 5: Pain has the two chapters I'm most proud of, like
Speaker 5: that I went through the quickest. So my abortion chapter
Speaker 5: and my sexual assault chapter.
Speaker 1: What's crazy is it took me.
Speaker 5: It was harder for me to write chapters with my
Speaker 5: ex Yes, it because I was going through that heartbreak presently. Yes,
Speaker 5: But the chapters about my sexual assault and the abortion,
Speaker 5: I wrote those the quickest. But I would say the
Speaker 5: abortion chapter brought the most emotion. Yes, because I had
Speaker 5: not spoken to my mom since my abortion about my
Speaker 5: abortion or your friend or my friend that paid for
Speaker 5: my So during this process, I interviewed people, So I
Speaker 5: hit up my friends from middle school in high school,
Speaker 5: I interviewed my mom, I recorded my therapy sessions, and
Speaker 5: I literally had to talk to my mom for the
Speaker 5: first time in seventeen years about this abortion that literally
Speaker 5: got swept under the rug once it got done it,
Speaker 5: that's it, right, And we had never talked about it again.
Speaker 5: And I literally had to call her to get her
Speaker 5: feelings about me going into her room right before work
Speaker 5: with a positive pregnancy test, and I literally add that
Speaker 5: I pissed out a Kroger down the street. Like so,
Speaker 5: I put all these details in and shout out to
Speaker 5: my good friend Keta.
Speaker 1: I ended up letting her know I want to write
Speaker 1: this book.
Speaker 5: I need permission because she used her cold stone check
Speaker 5: to pay for my abortion because my mom.
Speaker 6: You guys weren't even close friends.
Speaker 5: We weren't even that close to friends then, and her
Speaker 5: dad had just passed, so she was helping to pay
Speaker 5: the bills in her house like so to hear her
Speaker 5: and for both of us to like cry and literally
Speaker 5: having to go back. And every time I talk about this,
Speaker 5: I get an interia because it's like wow, like for
Speaker 5: what that meant in my life, needing that to happen,
Speaker 5: to literally know that I'm this cold hearted person to
Speaker 5: never even talk about how it impacted them.
Speaker 1: At that moment, my mom.
Speaker 5: Showed up, my best friend showed up, We fucking pulled
Speaker 5: out the vacuum.
Speaker 1: It was done.
Speaker 5: I'm not a mother we could move on with our lives.
Speaker 5: But I had never like sat with them to ask
Speaker 5: them what helping me make that decision meant to them.
Speaker 5: And I have a whole chapter literally about that, and
Speaker 5: that was like that that meant a lot for me
Speaker 5: to kind of close that chapter with with writing this chapter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great. So that one was good to
Speaker 1: see one of.
Speaker 6: Your best chapters.
Speaker 1: That one I kind of already knew how I was.
Speaker 4: The chapter of mine. My favorite of yours is that one.
Speaker 4: That was my favor for sure, but it was so
Speaker 4: early on you wrote it that I.
Speaker 1: Was like, I did write it early on.
Speaker 4: I was like, maybe something else will get me, but
Speaker 4: that was actually it's really good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think the one that was the best written, the
Speaker 5: worst story but to me felt more like my stories
Speaker 5: was your sexual assault chapter. I thought, I thought that
Speaker 5: the details in it, I think it took me on
Speaker 5: more of an emotional journey than your other Your other
Speaker 5: chapters just seemed like fun and more present, I think
Speaker 5: because that was something that happened that pain.
Speaker 4: Because the love chapter is the only one that brings
Speaker 4: me the most pain because of the recent thing that
Speaker 4: happened to it.
Speaker 3: I actually felt like that story.
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, but nobody, Yeah, we didn't see that coming.
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, that I guess.
Speaker 4: The sexual assault chapter for me, walking through that night
Speaker 4: is so dark. But I've luckily, and just so many
Speaker 4: people don't have this, I've been able to like truly
Speaker 4: heal from it. It still makes you cry, it's yeah, but
Speaker 4: I've forgiven.
Speaker 3: Myself for it.
Speaker 4: There was a lot of nights where I was like, well,
Speaker 4: in my story, I already had sex with this person before.
Speaker 4: So when I used to get upset about it, I
Speaker 4: felt like nobody would resonate with it because they're like,
Speaker 4: that makes.
Speaker 6: It worse to me, that makes it infinitely worse.
Speaker 4: We think when we're reading something violent like that it's
Speaker 4: some guy in a ali that you didn't know.
Speaker 3: That like attacks you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you said, you think it's worse when it's
Speaker 4: someone you know. I feel like there wasn't really empathy
Speaker 4: for me my whole life from people because I knew yeah, and.
Speaker 6: Because I think also the woman at the counter, oh.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the hotel to me, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I think that one was the most narrative. Yes, Like
Speaker 5: I think the other chapters, you go through your feelings
Speaker 5: and there's little moments and pockets with the dialogue between
Speaker 5: you and these people that to me felt the most emotional,
Speaker 5: like that one I I think I told Tempest. I
Speaker 5: was like, bro, I just read that chapter. I said
Speaker 5: that chapter good as fucking I shouldn't say it because
Speaker 5: it's about what it's about, but I was like that
Speaker 5: that I literally told her.
Speaker 1: I said, that was such a strong qua. It's fucked up,
Speaker 1: it is fucked up.
Speaker 4: But that abortion in the race stories are better than
Speaker 4: the anal, Like, it's crazy.
Speaker 5: It's different, it's different, it's different. You're going to be
Speaker 5: on a fucking emotional roller coaster with this book. But
Speaker 5: I think that because I loved what my Unicorn in
Speaker 5: Mexico story ended up being. Mind you told completely in
Speaker 5: a different way what happened to place. But the lens
Speaker 5: that I tell the story is completely different than the
Speaker 5: lens that I shared it here, which was really important
Speaker 5: for me.
Speaker 4: We actually didn't tell I think that's interesting because like
Speaker 4: they were telling us, the publisher was saying a mixture
Speaker 4: of stories people knew about us, but don't know even
Speaker 4: the stories that you do. It's like, oh, like I
Speaker 4: knew that Mexico story be like, ah, but you didn't
Speaker 4: know all of it, reading things like from a different way,
Speaker 4: like it's so and we can only deliver stories a
Speaker 4: certain way on here.
Speaker 6: I think that is the thing about podcasting the Mexico story.
Speaker 6: For me, it's the internal dialogue that you're having with yourself.
Speaker 6: It's how you're trying to free yourself. Is try how
Speaker 6: you're letting yourself just be because there's no one around it.
Speaker 5: And removing yourself. I think one of the biggest lessons
Speaker 5: or why I like that chapter so much, not only
Speaker 5: the story, but it literally is the fact that other
Speaker 5: people's opinions and the perception of other people keep us
Speaker 5: from exploring ourselves very much, which is what the theme
Speaker 5: of that chapter ends up being. I literally go to
Speaker 5: thinking like, if I was here with even my best friend,
Speaker 5: would you would I have left her to be with
Speaker 5: a couple. If I was with someone that even was
Speaker 5: just an associate, would I want them to know that
Speaker 5: I did this if they were here, so I wouldn't
Speaker 5: do it? Like literally diving into the ways in which
Speaker 5: so many ways in which we show up in our
Speaker 5: dating life, in the bedroom room, in how we navigate
Speaker 5: sex and partnerships, is through the lens of what everyone
Speaker 5: may fucking.
Speaker 6: Think, and the fact that these two strangers treated you
Speaker 6: better than my lovers that you had just been with,
Speaker 6: that I had just broken up.
Speaker 3: I was just going to bring this up.
Speaker 4: I had sex with someone with my partner on vacation
Speaker 4: and the girl's friend called her and I was like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, your friend's making sure you're not getting murdered.
Speaker 4: To call her back and she was like, I'm fling
Speaker 4: with a woman. She was like, I'm feeling good right now.
Speaker 4: It's not like I went home with some guy. And
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, I never realized that sometimes it's
Speaker 4: the woman connection that makes us feel safer.
Speaker 1: Yes, Like when she said.
Speaker 4: It, she was joking and I was like, oh no,
Speaker 4: that kind of tracks yeah, because it's funny because the
Speaker 4: man in that situation, I remember him feeling when it
Speaker 4: all happened.
Speaker 1: He felt manipulated. He said, you, bitch just planned this.
Speaker 6: He thought it was He said, there's no way they
Speaker 6: did not happen.
Speaker 5: He said, this did not happen. Y'all knew each other before, bitch,
Speaker 5: you knew to come up with the plan this. He
Speaker 5: almost didn't even believe this could happen so naturally.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do believe that story, like it's so it's
Speaker 4: the way everybody wants a threesome happened.
Speaker 8: Yes, oh yeah, like you know what I mean, like
Speaker 8: perfect imagine there was tequila and everybody was hot, and
Speaker 8: then we did and then we fucking beach club hopped,
Speaker 8: went back to the hotel, ram the jacuzzie, fucked in
Speaker 8: the shower, had dinner that night.
Speaker 1: I had today the island.
Speaker 5: Together the next day and set her ass on a
Speaker 5: ferry back to the mainland.
Speaker 1: Like it was, it was great.
Speaker 5: What was your I guess what was your toughest moment
Speaker 5: within the pain section of this book before we get
Speaker 5: the progression.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I said, not the assault chapter.
Speaker 3: For me, it was heartbreak. It was a heartbreak. Heartbreak
Speaker 3: was bad for me because.
Speaker 4: I there was so many flaws and so much accountability
Speaker 4: I had to take in that heartbreak.
Speaker 3: Yes, you really say, and you really was acting like
Speaker 3: but it was.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing, right am I acting like it
Speaker 4: wasn't bad or did I just think?
Speaker 1: Do you normal?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 6: But do you remember that I literally had to make
Speaker 6: you ReadWrite part of it, yes, because I was like, Okay,
Speaker 6: I'm reading this and this guy sounds horrible, but I
Speaker 6: was making and you were like, he's fine, it wasn't
Speaker 6: so bad. I was like, this is this sucks, Like
Speaker 6: I hate this person. You said you hated him, Yeah,
Speaker 6: I do hate him.
Speaker 1: Oh but it's.
Speaker 3: Like what tell mer feeling was something I couldn't see.
Speaker 6: No, you couldn't. I did not, And she just kind
Speaker 6: of turning all these words about like he wasn't so bad,
Speaker 6: and like that's why I say, you know, I think
Speaker 6: she brought it.
Speaker 5: Up on Patreon. I was like audience four years because
Speaker 5: that nigga sounds awful.
Speaker 4: But I wasn't lying because by right, so that was
Speaker 4: something that was discovering the book. I wasn't lying because
Speaker 4: I really did think it was fine.
Speaker 1: He was nut.
Speaker 5: Here's the thing, Well, y'all really actually were gonna sell
Speaker 5: a book with this chapter. When y'all get to hear,
Speaker 5: well Obay was really fucking doing it was and how
Speaker 5: this bitch was like telling herself it was okay because
Speaker 5: of just other factors.
Speaker 1: This still didn't make him a great partner, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't y'all I had or hive gonna eat. This chapter
Speaker 1: was the depth.
Speaker 6: It was horrible.
Speaker 1: You know how I knew it was really bad?
Speaker 3: How when I read? I read every chapter out loud
Speaker 3: to my partner.
Speaker 4: When I was reading that chapter, he goes, you had
Speaker 4: sex to him and then turned over and cried.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You were like, he was like what.
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, And I was like it was such a
Speaker 6: reflex the fact that you had to spy on him
Speaker 6: all the time to know what was actually happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Girl, I was so addicted. It was almost like it
Speaker 4: wasn't my life anymore.
Speaker 5: I think, you know what, like me, let's just blame
Speaker 5: the pandemic. It was in the air, you know, five
Speaker 5: g excuse today?
Speaker 8: You know what?
Speaker 4: Actually never said publicly, and I don't know who I
Speaker 4: mentioned in the book, Dave knows. I really feel that
Speaker 4: bad about what I was doing because I had a
Speaker 4: side nigga, Oh.
Speaker 5: Are you cheating on him the whole time? Look at
Speaker 5: even so we.
Speaker 6: Got to rewrite the chapter.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no bait about I'm gonna give y'all this team.
Speaker 4: I didn't cheat on him the whole time, just the
Speaker 4: right towards the end of the relationship. There you came
Speaker 4: this point where I was like, I'm totally checked out.
Speaker 4: I hate this guy. I've already read it out my
Speaker 4: crib in New York. We have a nice place in Mexico.
Speaker 4: We don't hate each other.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna find love somewhere else.
Speaker 6: You see my face.
Speaker 1: I feel like I know who the side nigga was.
Speaker 4: Don't even say it because I had my own man
Speaker 4: and I have my boyfriend. I know who say anything
Speaker 4: and do?
Speaker 1: Can we bleep it out and I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Cover on out.
Speaker 1: We're gonna bleep it out.
Speaker 5: All No, No, yeah, you was, That's why you kept
Speaker 5: He was like, I'm in LA for work.
Speaker 1: No, but you're getting dick.
Speaker 5: Your nigga lives in New York. She was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm in l A at my other house. The weather's
Speaker 5: night's out here. No, bitch, you're getting dick from that.
Speaker 1: You actually like that? Ain't disrespecting?
Speaker 6: Yes, and I'm I'm supporting it.
Speaker 1: I picked up on the overlap though. I was like,
Speaker 1: came right into the picture.
Speaker 3: Well, no, he wasn't my side nig until we broke up.
Speaker 1: Okay, he was just right. Wait, he was right there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, some woman is laughing.
Speaker 5: Well, you wove sat in this goddamn studio for four
Speaker 5: years hearing about you crying over this nigga. For you
Speaker 5: to be cheating on this thing, never heard she was
Speaker 5: acting like he's perfect.
Speaker 1: He was the last we have a damn chapter. Gonna
Speaker 1: eat this chapter. But it wasn't about It wasn't until
Speaker 1: the end.
Speaker 3: That's why it wasn't really relevant.
Speaker 1: But I also was.
Speaker 3: Just like to say, one thing, what you know, I
Speaker 3: not cheat on him for my.
Speaker 5: Honestly, the fact that he was making you go insane
Speaker 5: and then you still try to save him at the
Speaker 5: end of the chapter, like you still tried to make
Speaker 5: it seem like but he was fine, he had money,
Speaker 5: he was a god.
Speaker 1: Tell him.
Speaker 5: I felt bad and it was like, not you trying
Speaker 5: to say this nigga was a great guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, last three weeks of our relationship. He was out
Speaker 4: in Brooklyn. One night I was with Alex and I
Speaker 4: wanted to bring Alex around this other guy was fucking
Speaker 4: and Ope.
Speaker 3: Hit me like where are you at? And Alex was like,
Speaker 3: you're gonna go make me look at him right now.
Speaker 3: You are gonna make.
Speaker 1: Me have trincks with both days, I guess in an hour.
Speaker 1: And I was like, what is big deal?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna break up for them one day, break up
Speaker 3: with him one day is.
Speaker 6: We had a your first date sucked?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 1: I know even that from the first date.
Speaker 6: The first date, I was like, run.
Speaker 3: You know what, I will say this, it's a little bit.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe there's a parallel here.
Speaker 4: I don't ever feel like I need a man to
Speaker 4: have a certain lifestyle. However, there was something about our
Speaker 4: similarities and how he liked having the same life. They
Speaker 4: made me think I can fix this other shit.
Speaker 6: You do this thing all the time where you're the
Speaker 6: wing woman in a relationship. Tell me more like you
Speaker 6: the m from woolf Is this good?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 1: I really know.
Speaker 6: So even in the relationship that you had with your
Speaker 6: sugar daddy, right, like, that's why he was the one
Speaker 6: Like you went out with him, you had fun, you partied,
Speaker 6: you had the best time, and you're like the fun person. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and that's what you did with old Bay too.
Speaker 4: I feel like I don't think I had a relationship
Speaker 4: where I wasn't the fun girl anymore until right now
Speaker 4: and with scissors. Yeah, And it's hitting me now because
Speaker 4: when things get dark, I'm feeling guilty.
Speaker 1: And why they.
Speaker 3: Say, oh, my god, I'm so sorry. I can't give this.
Speaker 3: I can't give that, and they're like, what the fuck?
Speaker 6: Like a real relationship, you get to be all of
Speaker 6: the versions of you.
Speaker 1: I may love you have.
Speaker 3: A real relationship with old Bay. I just had a coast.
Speaker 4: You were the wing woman, but it didn't feel like
Speaker 4: it because I was like, oh, these boxes are checked,
Speaker 4: and I think so many people are gonna read this
Speaker 4: chapter and be like, this is my relationship, right, Yeah, definitely,
Speaker 4: I hope not.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, guys, I'm afray.
Speaker 6: You guys shoot yourselves better.
Speaker 1: Whose X do you think it's gonna hit them first?
Speaker 3: After this book?
Speaker 5: So you know, when I ran into my ex at
Speaker 5: the funeral over the summer, I let him know that
Speaker 5: he was in the chapters, and I actually let him know.
Speaker 5: I love how I healed through this because he's not
Speaker 5: in there half as much as he was in the beginning.
Speaker 1: He was he was going to be in each section.
Speaker 5: He has maybe three mentions throughout the book, and he
Speaker 5: has one chapter and the one chapter is my last chapter.
Speaker 6: There many of the chapters that we thought were going
Speaker 6: to be centered around him him came about and let.
Speaker 3: Me say, everybody listening to his show, said, thank god.
Speaker 5: Thank god he has he has really one full chapter
Speaker 5: and it ties into so progression is our last last chapter?
Speaker 6: And can I say progression is my favorite?
Speaker 1: Progression might be my favorite regressions.
Speaker 5: However, when I read it, I'm like, you dumb bitch,
Speaker 5: So I call myself you dumb bitch. You're dumb bitch
Speaker 5: all throughout this chapter. So the themes within this chapter
Speaker 5: are me being a side chick. Yep, I'm like I
Speaker 5: had to sex work and my views around using my
Speaker 5: pussy as a means to pay rent and live Alivish.
Speaker 4: Stop after names for a progression just for fun? Old
Speaker 4: on what was my last and my relationship with my heartbreak?
Speaker 4: So it says, what's your price for Mandy? Then why
Speaker 4: get persons when you can get a stock portfolio for Wheezy?
Speaker 4: Why do married men treat you better by Mandy? That's
Speaker 4: the Sad Chicks tea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, does love show up when you aren't looking? Wheezy?
Speaker 3: Why do you need me to need you?
Speaker 1: Mandy?
Speaker 3: And then if nine million people are here, why do
Speaker 3: I feel alone? Wheezy? Yeah?
Speaker 6: I guess that was why do you need me to
Speaker 6: need you? I? Yeah, I recently did. I had to
Speaker 6: go through the entire book again, and it was interesting
Speaker 6: because it's been a little while. Yeah, and I literally
Speaker 6: I like wrote to Mandy and was like, I'm crying,
Speaker 6: like I'm reading your chapter right now. Yeah, and I'm crying,
Speaker 6: like the part where you get go to his truck,
Speaker 6: Like it was so on my fucking window with my
Speaker 6: ring and we're crying outside, and like I was like, oh,
Speaker 6: I felt like I was going through.
Speaker 4: So crazy because all of this happened in the middle
Speaker 4: of the book, literally in the middle of the book,
Speaker 4: and the why do I need you to need me?
Speaker 5: Goes into my my my need to disassociate with word
Speaker 5: with need and myself and value that I associated with
Speaker 5: sex and men, and so the fact that he needed
Speaker 5: me to need him pissed me off so much because
Speaker 5: I was like, niaga, I want you, I don't need you. Yes,
Speaker 5: And the book literally goes through the shame I experienced
Speaker 5: with what I've done with men in the past, where
Speaker 5: I actually did need them to pay a bill, to
Speaker 5: get through school, to do to.
Speaker 1: Get on a plane.
Speaker 6: Well, it's the fact that he also used that against.
Speaker 5: Oh, he used it against me real bad, so that
Speaker 5: and so to me that that chapter was the hardest
Speaker 5: one for us to get through. I sat on that
Speaker 5: until the very end.
Speaker 1: That was that was the last chapter I wrote.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you were like, I don't. I was like, you
Speaker 6: can do it, but you.
Speaker 5: Know what's crazy universe When I saw him, Yep, that's
Speaker 5: when I knew I needed to add our last text message.
Speaker 5: So the chapter even becomes a little bit about closure
Speaker 5: and me finding just the power, which is why it's
Speaker 5: the last chapter in the book for me. The power
Speaker 5: to feel safe within myself, to know that I can
Speaker 5: be with someone I want, that I don't need partnership,
Speaker 5: that I actually love myself, that I'm confident, that I'm secure,
Speaker 5: that I'm financially able to just exist and and experience
Speaker 5: all that life has to give without the association or
Speaker 5: attachment to a man because he makes some money.
Speaker 1: So it was great. That was that was a great chapter.
Speaker 6: Your three stories there like really take you through the
Speaker 6: entire journey.
Speaker 4: And I feel like money talking the book actually about
Speaker 4: men and money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like as.
Speaker 4: To women that have don't need it now, it was
Speaker 4: interesting to go in yeah and like see, you know
Speaker 4: it's crazy. Actually just made me think when I read
Speaker 4: the Sugar Daddy chapter to my partner, he was like,
Speaker 4: I feel like he was oddly turned on because he
Speaker 4: felt like he was hearing about this other person.
Speaker 3: He was like, Yo, this is fucking like, what's wrong
Speaker 3: with you?
Speaker 4: That's kind of nasty, Like you wanted to fuck this
Speaker 4: niggat and he didn't require you to fuck him.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, it was just hot to do it.
Speaker 4: But I think that's also obviously from a privileged place, right, Like, yes,
Speaker 4: I got to have this Sugar Daddy experience of there's
Speaker 4: two types, right, Like I've fucked somebody for money because
Speaker 4: I needed to pay my rent, and then I moved
Speaker 4: to New York wanted extra and like was this girl
Speaker 4: that was kind of like having this very TV experience.
Speaker 4: That's what my brain was like. When he would come,
Speaker 4: he would come on this private plane, it was his.
Speaker 4: He would come over, take me shopping. It was just
Speaker 4: this thing, and.
Speaker 6: I was like it was like being in a TV show.
Speaker 4: And then it started to hit me like Okay, but
Speaker 4: I need to do this when he's gone, Like I
Speaker 4: need to be like this, I need to be this.
Speaker 3: Man with you.
Speaker 6: You want to be him?
Speaker 4: Right? I want and that was something I wrote, I
Speaker 4: want to be you like, yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 4: a lot of women get to have that experience within
Speaker 4: a sugardaddy, because we're not always treated right by men
Speaker 4: that are paying for sex. A lot of sex workers
Speaker 4: not treated right but being spoiled by him.
Speaker 3: It did the opposite to me. Did not make me
Speaker 3: want to be my mother, didn't make me want to
Speaker 3: be a housewife. I was like, I gotta get rich.
Speaker 4: It made you driven, like it's crazy because I don't
Speaker 4: know if anyone else has this experience. But I was
Speaker 4: flying home and I got first class and I literally
Speaker 4: said to myself, I will never like not on manifestation.
Speaker 3: Shit, this is it. I will never fucking fly economy
Speaker 3: again for twenty hours. I won't.
Speaker 4: I don't need to, I don't need to take the trip.
Speaker 4: This is my life. This is how I'm going to
Speaker 4: live my life. Yes, And a lot of my friends
Speaker 4: said to me recently, like, yo, you say this even
Speaker 4: when it's not happening. I took a flight with one
Speaker 4: of my friends to like some one of them small
Speaker 4: countries in between Europe. We were on the back of
Speaker 4: the plane and he said, you know, the whole time,
Speaker 4: you were like, this isn't even high lived, This isn't
Speaker 4: gonna happen on the next one, This is not gonna
Speaker 4: happen to me.
Speaker 3: This ain't me, nigga, this is a moment.
Speaker 4: And I was like, yo, I really said that. He's like, yes,
Speaker 4: And I love that. In this book.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of good talking to yourself.
Speaker 1: Yes, you really get to have that.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of pain, but there's a lot of
Speaker 3: cheers in yourself. You'll smile a lot when reading a
Speaker 3: bad story or through a heartbreak because you're like, yeah, bitch,
Speaker 3: like you got to get through that. And I liked
Speaker 3: some of these girl power themes that weren't on purpose.
Speaker 5: They weren't on purpose at they weren't on purpose, but
Speaker 5: we definitely cheered ourselves on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, bitch, you could do better than that. Yes, bitch,
Speaker 1: you got this.
Speaker 3: Yeah it's the inner voice shit.
Speaker 1: And yes, I call myself bitch all the time.
Speaker 6: Yes you do.
Speaker 1: I like, but you did it.
Speaker 6: And you'll tell people you're not gonna like this.
Speaker 5: But but what it is. But no, we're really excited
Speaker 5: for you guys to join us. At the end, we
Speaker 5: come together yet again to talk about what power means
Speaker 5: to us and how you can make sure you and
Speaker 5: still power within yourself. So it's literally a fool literally
Speaker 5: from start to finish, an emotional roller coaster of.
Speaker 1: Love, sucks and violence. But no, but yeah, it's it's fine.
Speaker 4: That just it really hit me in a pleasure chapter
Speaker 4: talking about the first Thanks too easy.
Speaker 5: It's more queer than it would have been. It's just
Speaker 5: the baby I talk about all all these niggas. The
Speaker 5: only woman is the unicorn story in Mexico for me.
Speaker 5: But y'all know, I just fuck bitches.
Speaker 1: I don't really.
Speaker 6: You're not looking for love there?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wasn't really looking for love. But it's just great.
Speaker 5: It's great.
Speaker 1: And with crazy is the people that actually have been
Speaker 1: the most present over the last decade to decade and
Speaker 1: a half. Very minimal cameos in this book.
Speaker 5: Like if you're a listener of this of this podcast,
Speaker 5: I think you would think every chapter would have a
Speaker 5: twenty four to seven, a toy friend, a lawyer, Bay,
Speaker 5: those are maybe my top three.
Speaker 6: No, No, it's about you.
Speaker 1: Was what I used to call your toy.
Speaker 5: Friend, was my ex toy friend, was my right and
Speaker 5: he's not in there. Like, but the one chapter and
Speaker 5: maybe I mentioned our one visit to the dungeon. I
Speaker 5: broke down, that's all. It's all about me and community
Speaker 5: that I found in New York twenty four to seven
Speaker 5: is only the anal sex story.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you're just using him there.
Speaker 4: I think crazy knowing that a lot of yeah, a
Speaker 4: lot of the people in his book like especially, but
Speaker 4: I'm thinking just because you said Scissors besides does maybe
Speaker 4: her and my partner I've never met.
Speaker 3: Oh, you haven't met him either. Here in New York
Speaker 3: date needs to have both of them.
Speaker 6: I'm so excited because wait, have who here? Scissors and
Speaker 6: her man need to be there?
Speaker 5: Yeah three, y'all ain't me and none of my niggas,
Speaker 5: nobody in the book coming. Maybe my mom, my best
Speaker 5: friend want to meet you. I might bring Keita, who
Speaker 5: helped pay for my abortions, want to meet in person.
Speaker 5: Y'all are not meeting any of my lovers ever, Like
Speaker 5: I'm scared to go to this premiere with my boyfriend now,
Speaker 5: like nigga, what if we have a getdy and this
Speaker 5: is instilled in the internet forever?
Speaker 1: Like I am scared to be published.
Speaker 6: I mean the person I'm living vicariously through you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my boyfriend, me and my me and me. You
Speaker 1: love a fucking side story.
Speaker 5: When we went to lunch after we did the Simon
Speaker 5: and Schuster and he called me with his accent and
Speaker 5: she was like that accent.
Speaker 6: You know what British with this?
Speaker 3: The story you like the most was a British guy.
Speaker 1: Man. You might have a little teen you have a
Speaker 1: team for a little britt man.
Speaker 6: I'm obsessed with David Bowie, like since I was eight
Speaker 6: years old.
Speaker 3: I understand.
Speaker 6: Okay, that's my husband.
Speaker 1: That might be what it is. That might be what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 6: That's part of it.
Speaker 3: We know what your next role play need to be.
Speaker 3: He can sorry, y'all speak Cockney.
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Speaker 3: Oh duh, yes, yes we do.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: By the way, I know, I keep looking at the
Speaker 5: wrong wide. Maybe they could see our will as a fuck.
Speaker 5: Maybe if I look crossied, it doesn't matter. I got
Speaker 5: a nigga now, so they gonna be like this cross.
Speaker 5: I hope my nigga like you anyway. Anyways, Also, we
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Speaker 1: We are there for eight hours.
Speaker 5: We're there the whole day. Maybe I don't know why
Speaker 5: we ain't negotiate more. That's a full motherfucking day.
Speaker 6: Can I come come on home?
Speaker 1: Yes, come on day. Yeah, we'll be Yeah.
Speaker 5: I believe we're making it to where if you do
Speaker 5: a pre order book, we're giving you a bookmark and
Speaker 5: a sign poster, so that'll be present you get to
Speaker 5: meet us. But baby, you don't get to meet us
Speaker 5: unless you pre order book. Ain't gona hold You'm gonna
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Speaker 6: No bar, you're NFS best seller.
Speaker 1: Here we go speaking it into existing.
Speaker 4: Come on, just like last see, I don't live like this.
Speaker 4: I'm only in the best sellers now y'all got.
Speaker 1: Star and then mooning around here. Anyways, Thank you guys
Speaker 1: so much.
Speaker 5: This has been a special episode of Decisions, Decisions, and again, if.
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Speaker 6: Sorry, I know I'm still fucking okay. Why would every
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