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Speaker 1: Welcome to Decisions Decisions.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you should say the Decisions.

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Speaker 1: It sounded like you.

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Speaker 4: Was talking to person you definitely say to Welcome, Welcome

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Speaker 4: to the new podcast. How about you want to say

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Speaker 4: together the Decisions Decisions.

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Speaker 5: Welcome y'all a very special episode of Decisions Decisions. It's

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Speaker 5: your girl, podcaster, producer and aufa.

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Speaker 4: Maybe thank you for making us an author tympist, because

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Speaker 4: who knows if many not do this together, it might

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Speaker 1: There wouldn't have been a book it would have we

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Speaker 5: Go through that process. Well, just us writing like without

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Speaker 5: being pulled out. Guys, we're having a no holds barred

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Speaker 5: special edition episode.

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Speaker 1: The reason we're having to talk about though, goddamn book.

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Speaker 4: It's really important because it's not just us do impress

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Speaker 4: for this book, but only our whore hive can get

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Speaker 4: this done for us. We really want to get on

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Speaker 4: say a milestone, a stamp of what this podcast would be.

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Speaker 4: This is how you end the show y'all thought it was,

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Speaker 4: and then this is how to me, this is the

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Speaker 4: pinnacle of what happens. And it's like, I would love

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Speaker 4: to it. I haven't really seen many shows been able

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Speaker 4: to have a book that becomes a bestseller.

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Speaker 1: Maybe books end.

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Speaker 4: Up being e books and this and that and whatever.

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Speaker 4: But this is a really big fucking deal.

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Speaker 6: It is.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even know what Simon and Schuster was before

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Speaker 5: I need y'all to put us in line with the

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Speaker 5: other podcasters who have been able to do it.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Wallow, Shout out to Rashad and Troy from.

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Speaker 5: Earn Your Leisure. I know Jesus and Marrow had a book.

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Speaker 5: All the smoke just dropped away, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: So like knowing that podcasters and their fan bases have

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Speaker 5: want the horre Hive to literally show up and show

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Speaker 1: And I think we know our episodes.

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Speaker 5: Live on Jesus Christ Praises because we've done said so

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Speaker 5: much on this goddamn podcast. But this book will literally

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Speaker 5: live on forever beyond us. You can give it to

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Speaker 6: Because we're not doing that right now, okay, and hey.

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Speaker 5: It's a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power, and y'all,

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Speaker 5: How long have you been writing books? How long have

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Speaker 6: I just had a big book come out, and it

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Speaker 4: Then you're right, tell us like before writing, oh well,

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Speaker 4: want to know when you were reading dirty books, romantic stuff, erotica.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, how did it pair up with my beach reads?

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Speaker 7: Hall passed, Oh yeah, I lie, I might need you

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Speaker 1: Yes, And I had to be like, timp is this

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Speaker 4: I just knew how to get words on a page

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Speaker 6: There had to be the thread to make it a

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you think we've sent to you? For

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Speaker 5: But I'm pretty sure that never aired. I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 3: So funny is leather interiors are Actually he got the

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Speaker 3: Like every day he was like, which toothbrush is mine?

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Speaker 1: Which toothbrush is mine?

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Speaker 4: I don't like sharing toothbrushes either, But I was like,

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Speaker 6: You ate my period blood in a car?

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Speaker 1: Blood is different than blaque? Never? But does he like

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Speaker 3: I would rather use your toothbrush than eat your period blood, right.

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Speaker 6: I don't want im plaque.

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Speaker 6: Book number two.

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Speaker 1: But there's other ship like something with his hair. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: You ain't my blood. That is crazy. That is iron,

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Speaker 6: Think off of a plane too, right, oh, girl, disgusting

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Speaker 1: We a vampire? Was this the night? Does he come

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Speaker 5: Seen him during in the day, Like I never that

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Speaker 5: No, he's like, he comes, see if we have to

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Speaker 4: It's so crazy too, because one of my homegirls calls

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Speaker 4: well people do and like also people respond to him, right, Yes,

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Speaker 6: Which one it got?

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Speaker 1: The vampires in the Warlock? Oh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they know that only has wolves and vampires though,

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Speaker 6: Has wear wolves and yes, so y'all have never ate

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Speaker 4: I feel like Wolf has a standard of cleanliness just

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Speaker 5: That that that broke up with me because she didn't

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Speaker 1: It was. It just came on and she did eat

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Speaker 3: Volume two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't wasn't okay, It wasn't okay.

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Speaker 5: And you were just which is crazy if you guys,

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Speaker 6: I did.

445
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Speaker 1: And I gave detail. You know what's crazy.

446
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Speaker 5: I feel like because that was a story that I did,

447
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Speaker 5: was able to go and like.

448
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Speaker 1: Knew what had happened.

449
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Speaker 5: I was able to literally transport back there to put

450
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Speaker 5: those words on back there. Listen, yes, by the way,

451
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Speaker 5: shout out to y'all as an audience. That chapter is

452
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Speaker 5: called you can put it back there? And it's it's

453
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Speaker 5: can you put it?

454
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Speaker 6: And you put it?

455
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Speaker 1: Can you put it back there? Have you ever seen

456
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Speaker 1: that clip?

457
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Speaker 4: No, Vinnie was here, we were we were we were

458
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Speaker 4: in Harlem. We were in Harlem, so we had Vinnie on.

459
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Speaker 4: I think we're about to go on tour. Maybe he

460
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Speaker 4: was visiting me.

461
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Speaker 3: I'll remember.

462
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 4: But I'm making jokes with Mandy about how she says

463
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Speaker 4: a on once a quarter. I'm like, so, how do

464
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,439
Speaker 4: you know you're ready? She goes, I let them. She

465
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 4: said it very matter of fact. I just think, actually,

466
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Speaker 4: I want you to try to put this side by

467
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Speaker 4: side because I think I know the cadence.

468
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Speaker 3: Where's the camera this one?

469
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Speaker 1: What do you mean?

470
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Speaker 3: What do I do? I literally looking at my say,

471
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 3: you can put it back there.

472
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 1: It's open for you. I just kept saying, I know

473
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Speaker 1: you want a bootlehole. You want to get an a

474
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Speaker 1: if you want to get a name, you really say

475
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,919
Speaker 1: booty hole? Or is that like a horrible decision. You

476
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 1: can put it. You can put it back there, like

477
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Speaker 1: it's open.

478
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Speaker 6: I don't.

479
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 1: You can put it back you can get it back there.

480
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 6: Nobody says no, you can put back there.

481
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 1: You can put it back there. You know it's open

482
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 1: for you. It's crazy.

483
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Speaker 5: I will say this, Uh, this process, even the chapter

484
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 5: wasn't as much as my delivery can be kind of brashed.

485
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Speaker 3: Uh.

486
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 1: The team will know it, especially if I don't like something.

487
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 5: So in the beginning of writing this book, y'all, yes,

488
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 5: I was so insecure about my ability to put words

489
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 5: to paper, words to laptop. You know, Florida education school

490
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 5: system always blame them, but I feel insecure about how

491
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 5: I form sentences, and so I let Tempest know that

492
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 5: out the gate. So I'm like, hey, let me just

493
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 5: tell you what I want the chapter to be. I

494
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 5: want it to sound like me. Though Wheezy chapter is

495
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 5: gonna sound like her. I want my chapters to sound

496
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Speaker 5: like me. And so we spent like four hours together

497
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Speaker 5: for our first writing session for the first chapter. We

498
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 5: were like, let's get our flow start. We spent four

499
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 5: hours together. I'm recording, she's recording. We have recording devices happening,

500
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 5: and she's walking through how I want to chronologicalize this

501
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 5: goddamn chapter.

502
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Speaker 3: Is that a word?

503
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: Chronologicalize? It is now?

504
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 5: And so we spent four hours together. She's like, Okay,

505
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna take all these audio notes. We know how

506
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 5: we want to lay out this this chapter, and I'm

507
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Speaker 5: gonna write.

508
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send it to you to approven edit y'all.

509
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 5: She sent me the chapter and I'm reading it and

510
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 5: I think I might have texted like tippus, can we

511
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 5: talk real quick?

512
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Speaker 1: And I don't know a.

513
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Speaker 5: Nice way to do? We talking for the next day.

514
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Speaker 5: We had a two day thing, so she comes the

515
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Speaker 5: next day. I make sure, Hey, what type of food

516
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 5: do you want? Mediterranean?

517
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna order our lunch.

518
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

519
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Speaker 6: I got buttered up first, and I.

520
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Speaker 5: Look at her because I don't know how to say

521
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Speaker 5: things very nicely, and I said, tempest, I fucking hate it.

522
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 5: And then what it sounds terrible? I said, this is

523
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 5: not how I like to read. Oh my god, it's

524
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 5: awful and y'all know what. Timpus looked at me and said, well,

525
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 5: I wrote it.

526
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: How you sound.

527
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 5: It's like, I sound like a fucking dummy. I said,

528
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 5: this reads so terribly.

529
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Speaker 6: I think it was also it was also in your defense.

530
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Speaker 6: We didn't know each other yet, no, and you were

531
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Speaker 6: very like when we first started, I think all of us,

532
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 6: like everybody was like a little like, oh, we don't

533
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 6: know each other yet, we don't know what's going on.

534
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 6: Like so I think there was also like a nervous

535
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Speaker 6: energy about sharing your stories with me. So you were

536
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 6: pausing a lot. You were pausing a lot lot.

537
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: So I was like, the bit she ended all themned sentences.

538
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Speaker 6: So I had these tiny little sentences because that's how

539
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 6: you were saying things to me, funny. And I was like,

540
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Speaker 6: I hated it too, Like example, I hated it too.

541
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Speaker 6: It was just like and then we one here and

542
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Speaker 6: this period, and then this happened next period, and I

543
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 6: was like, I was like, that's happen.

544
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Speaker 5: So she's like, okay, let me see how you write. Yes,

545
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 5: I need you to write this chapter. And I guess

546
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 5: we started with our introduction yep, and I wrote my

547
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 5: entire introduction beginning to end, and baby, I write with

548
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 5: run on sentences if you want to like, it just

549
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 5: goes and flows, and I want all the adjectives, all

550
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 5: the details to fit. I'll be like comma semi collin

551
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Speaker 5: comma comma however, comma like where I could.

552
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Speaker 6: There were a couple of times I had to be

553
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Speaker 6: like no.

554
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: She was like, bitch, this is three sentences.

555
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Speaker 3: You know.

556
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 4: We can break about the stress of turning in chapters too.

557
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Speaker 3: I kind of miss writing.

558
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: A little bit, like you do.

559
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Speaker 3: There's this part of me that felt like it was

560
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 3: super stressful.

561
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, but then at the same time, I'm like, that

562
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 4: was kind of fun. I know, I need to talk

563
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 4: about that one night that I was on my knees

564
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Speaker 4: getting punished by Monday.

565
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Speaker 1: I kind of miss it. I like it.

566
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Speaker 6: I loved writing this book with you guys.

567
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Speaker 3: It really fun.

568
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 6: It was really fun. It ended up being really fun.

569
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Speaker 4: I think it was dark times in the book. And

570
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 4: so I guess we should explain how this book is.

571
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Speaker 6: Can I say one more thing about Mandy and her writing?

572
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Speaker 8: Then?

573
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 6: So Mandy writes beautifully. She sends me this chapter and

574
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 6: I looked at you, and what did I say? I

575
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 6: said that's how I naturally write. Yeah, she literally, what

576
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 6: the hell? Oh no, she said, I don't know if

577
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 6: we recorded anything else. Bitch, you're writing yep.

578
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: And I'm going back, and I really I really enjoyed writing.

579
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Speaker 4: Do you feel like, because we're both chatty and podcasters,

580
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 4: do you feel like we were both wordy or one

581
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 4: was wordier than the other.

582
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 3: I think that maybe describe those styles.

583
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,479
Speaker 6: I think that the styles are totally different.

584
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: It's like, which is great. It's like, that's why this

585
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: book can be for anybody.

586
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 6: But it's like knowing you guys now right, Like I

587
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 6: really know you both, so you're both totally different in

588
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 6: real life too. So Mandy loves a sentence that I

589
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 6: had to chop up and be like, this is a

590
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 6: paragraph five sentences, like I don't know what you're thinking here,

591
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 6: And you love like outside of the box, like funny things,

592
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 6: but you also like you'll take it out of normal structure.

593
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 6: You're like, now it's like a screenplay suddenly, and now

594
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 6: I'm doing this, and now it's a text message and

595
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 6: what about this? And what about that? And that was

596
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 6: really really fun for me because I like to write everything.

597
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 1: I really like.

598
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 4: Dialogue when I'm reading, so I never thought I was

599
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 4: gonna write it that way, and it's not like it's

600
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 4: not in the other So, for example, what Temphis is

601
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 4: saying is like more of Mandy's dialogue.

602
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 3: Is actual quotations.

603
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 4: Its told how he was feeling, yes, whereas mine is

604
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 4: like this breaks out and I'm breaking it out line

605
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 4: by line, and I think, really, it's how we're telling

606
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 4: stories in our head. I was really trying to describe it. Also,

607
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 4: how people like receiving storytelling from me on Horrible.

608
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was thinking, Okay.

609
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 4: Maybe I am jumping around a lot, maybe I am

610
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 4: this So I want to not lose so much of

611
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 4: the sauce, right, like you don't want to change what

612
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 4: works too much, And that's what I was fearful of

613
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 4: with writing.

614
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 3: But I'm glad that no one lost it.

615
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 6: No one lost it. And the greatest thing that we

616
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,959
Speaker 6: heard in any of the meetings with Simon and Schuster

617
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 6: to me was when they were like, your voices are

618
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 6: so different, like I don't have to look at whose

619
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 6: name is at the top of this chapter to know

620
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 6: whose chapter this is. And that was the main thing

621
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 6: that I wanted to get across. I really wanted each

622
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 6: of your voices to come through, and I think we

623
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 6: really achieved that, and I'm so happy.

624
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 5: So we start this chapter by introducing us as podcasters.

625
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 5: Then we break out for almost the rest of the

626
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 5: book in an introduction of myself, an introduction of Weezy,

627
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 5: and then we've broken this book into four different parts pleasure, pain, progression, power,

628
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 5: And I want to lean into each of those chapters,

629
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 5: or each of those segments just a little bit because

630
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 5: we bring about themes in this book where you do

631
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 5: have sex. We also included like a guide and ways

632
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 5: to help you kind of navigate whatever journey you're in.

633
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 5: And we have let me do the math, Let me

634
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 5: do the math six. That's eighteen. We have about eighteen

635
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 5: different stories. So even if you've never experienced a non

636
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 5: monogamous relationship, you've experienced a heartbreak, If you haven't experienced

637
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 5: sorry trigger warning. If you haven't experienced a rate, maybe

638
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 5: you've experienced an abortion. If you haven't experienced a thruple,

639
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 5: maybe you've experienced just a one off partner where y'all

640
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 5: had threesomes. I think this book literally can relate to

641
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 5: anybody at any time of their sexual journey and them

642
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 5: trying to find confidence within themselves as a woman.

643
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 4: Through all of the things I think this book, and

644
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 4: that's why I think for men it would be good too.

645
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 4: It's good as a standalone like without it being a guide.

646
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 4: But some of the things that I haven't liked about

647
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 4: why this book is going to be popular. I'm not

648
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 4: a fan of self help or guide books. I like

649
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 4: the juicier storytelling thing, and so I'm glad that this

650
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 4: book has that. And I'm glad we both got what

651
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 4: we wanted because it really gives both. But I like

652
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 4: that you still don't need the guidebook if you have

653
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 4: it all figured out in your life and you're listening

654
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 4: and you're just like nobody.

655
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: Ever they are.

656
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 4: Yes, these girls are a goddamn mess and they're funny

657
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 4: to listen to, then the book is still for you.

658
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say, even if you like housewives and like

659
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 5: to read the mess of other people's lives, it's all

660
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 5: in here like I talk about, And I think what

661
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 5: was great about this was me tapping into my childhood

662
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 5: and why I am the way I am today. So bitch,

663
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 5: if y'all don't understand why the fuck I'm this motherfucking

664
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 5: crazy with my own thoughts on relationships.

665
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Speaker 1: You'll know by the end of the book.

666
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 5: So I did want to lean into pleasure because we

667
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 5: start the book off that way, because the other has

668
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 5: to be fucking.

669
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 6: Can we say one thing, though, Can we say that

670
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,479
Speaker 6: when we did the book proposal together, we had no

671
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 6: idea that Simon and Schuster was going to tell us

672
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 6: we want a prescriptive book. And yeah, that's remember, like

673
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 6: we had a whole different idea. So then we did,

674
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 6: like we had a totally different book.

675
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 5: All I know is once I knew I could write

676
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 5: my own chapter's therapy was going in this shit for me?

677
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 5: Oh yes, so to me, I don't think I would

678
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 5: have done a book if there wasn't.

679
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 6: I think for yours would have been naturally that way.

680
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 6: And then I think you leaned into it at first,

681
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 6: kicking and screaming a little bit.

682
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 4: I think I was kicking and screaming though, because no offense.

683
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 4: We don't have answers here, right, right, This is a

684
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 4: book where and I knew that going into it, and

685
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 4: I didn't like that. I didn't like that publishers and

686
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 4: people wanted us to tell people what to do.

687
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 6: You know, what's interesting.

688
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 3: I don't really like that.

689
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 6: I think you guys have more answers than you think.

690
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: I think we do from our own right.

691
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 4: So for example, two different things, right, I would say

692
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 4: a Shan Boodie has the answers because she went to school,

693
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 4: give them to you. She knows the sign, and so

694
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 4: that will look like right, that's exactly what I'm trying

695
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 4: to say.

696
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: But it's why we don't have MD be like we

697
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: have met.

698
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: No, there's no and so medical and I'm brought up

699
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 3: Shan just now.

700
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 4: It's really because I think it's been a great comp

701
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 4: every time someone like compares and I'm when I say someone,

702
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 4: it's normally when I'm talking like a TV network or

703
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 4: someone that just kind of like is trying to figure

704
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 4: out who we are. And I think what's so cool

705
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 4: about this book is all of our reflection, is us

706
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 4: learning through our own fuck up, Like this isn't something

707
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 4: that we were like, oh hey, yeah, we know that.

708
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 6: Which is how most of us learn, right, Like, oh,

709
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 6: maybe I shouldn't do that again.

710
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: So what my fear was initially with the Kicking Screams

711
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 4: is that I hated thinking someone could pick up this

712
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 4: book and felt like I was being preachy when for

713
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 4: a fright, yeah, and so learning how the structure ended

714
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 4: up coming together and seeing that it was really like

715
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 4: unfolding at the bottom of every chapter, like hey, like,

716
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 4: now this is what you do, almost as a horrible

717
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 4: decision correction. I feel like when I used to describe

718
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 4: horrible decisions formerly, right was basically us sharing this crazy,

719
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 4: wild story and kind of reflecting on what we have

720
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 4: done different. Maybe we were owning the whole thing, whatever

721
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 4: it was, it felt like it was coming together with

722
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 4: this lesson learned and the book ended up having it

723
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 4: and it felt so natural.

724
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 5: I mean, I wanted to lean into pleasure while they're there.

725
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 5: I know we talked about can I put it back

726
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 5: there because it's not preachy. So for that chapter specifically,

727
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 5: I literally go chronologically from my homophobic views around anal

728
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 5: sex and how I literally thought anal sex were just

729
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 5: for two men, and how no woman growing up had

730
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 5: a really good experience about anal sex at all. It

731
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 5: wasn't talked about, we didn't have the sexual education around it.

732
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 5: So I go from literally being homophobic yep, and I

733
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 5: addressed my homophobia loud and clear, especially living in Atlanta

734
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 5: early on with these views yep. Two, then me experiencing

735
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 5: and allowing a man to have anal sex with me,

736
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 5: it not being enjoyable first at all, but being open

737
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 5: to experiencing it again, to eventually being called pegda stallion,

738
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 5: and going from.

739
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: Homophobia to bending Nikasova.

740
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 5: So it's literally it's that type of chapter where I'm

741
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 5: not going to be preaching to you. I'm addressing my

742
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 5: own biases, my own ways of having to unlearn things,

743
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 5: which is I think all we've said on this pod

744
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 5: so long. We've all been taught so many things that

745
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 5: we have to unlearn, especially in order to get the

746
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 5: most out of sex. And so that chapter for me

747
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 5: literally leans into telling you, y'ah, I was doing research.

748
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 5: I was pulling out statistics and all the things because

749
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 5: I'm like, why are we taught this? Oh well, when

750
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 5: we're growing up in black communities and leaning into.

751
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 6: The church, there's a strong.

752
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 5: Sense of homophobia that exists, which is why antal sex

753
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 5: is not discussed about the pleasures that it could be.

754
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 5: And so it gives you like a whole thing, I

755
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 5: love it. Now give me antal sex, baby, Do not

756
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 5: make that a clip, all right? But of like experiencing

757
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 5: pleasures and all my holes, like if I could be

758
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 5: fucked in the nose.

759
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 4: I probably because when your mom did our live show,

760
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 4: that was what she said.

761
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: Do you remember that she wants to be fucked in

762
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: all of her orfices? That's it?

763
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 4: And I was like, all my orfices. But that's how

764
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 4: you know her mom's in the medical field. She said,

765
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 4: I'll never forget that. I was like, oh my god,

766
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 4: in every orfice maybe that was so.

767
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

768
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 5: So like that chapter for me was one we wrote

769
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 5: that one fairly quickly. Yeah, we did that was it

770
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 5: wasn't until we had to get like a little deeper,

771
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 5: barely got edited.

772
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 1: No, that one. And then ironically, so the next way

773
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: that you felt about it, they were like yeah too.

774
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 5: They were like, oh, the next segment that I kind

775
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 5: of want to lean into because what's crazy is we

776
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 5: started with pain and was like, we can't start the

777
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 5: book off this way.

778
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: Right, so pain is our second Well.

779
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, I do want to talk about my pleasure chapters?

780
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: Oh? I thought we did that with the blood. No,

781
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: that's okay.

782
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 4: So what's crazy about the pleasure chapters for me was

783
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 4: I was digging into sex stories and two out of

784
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 4: three of them were about a woman like m HM

785
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 4: arts and craft, and I remember thinking to myself, and

786
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 4: this didn't come out until the end of the book.

787
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, why do you think I need

788
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 4: to talk about her in this one? And you're like,

789
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 4: will you bring her up in every chapter?

790
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: Yeah? You do.

791
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 4: And there was so much that I didn't realize shaped

792
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 4: my pleasure, sensory anything. The way I see sex, the

793
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 4: way I have sex, my intimacy, the emotionalness of everything

794
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 4: that I do was because of the attraction to women.

795
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so gay. At one point, I thank

796
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: you for helping.

797
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 1: Well.

798
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 6: Scissors is outside of YouTube. She's my favorite other character

799
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 6: that's in here because she really taught you about love.

800
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 6: She really has to come to New York City, and

801
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 6: I think that, Uh, I don't know that you realize

802
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 6: that until you started writing all this, And then I

803
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 6: was like, why Scissors in every chapter.

804
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 4: There's a letter I write to her? Yeah, in the book,

805
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 4: because you told me that. Yes, she basically tempests. When

806
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 4: I said she was saying to me like, yes, like

807
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 4: this is how you know how to love. I was like, damn,

808
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 4: Like there's an apology that needs happened here.

809
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 3: Anna, thank you.

810
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, because sometimes there's moments where I talk about her

811
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 4: on this podcast where I don't think I give her

812
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 4: enough credit because the throut bullshit was so exciting for

813
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 4: everybody to hear about that. You really almost didn't understand

814
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 4: how serious and how loving this central relationship was, yes,

815
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 4: and the healthiness of it too. I'm talking about bringing

816
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 4: people in a space. Mandy and I both sex clubs

817
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 4: and just exploring with partners. That was the first healthy

818
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 4: like let's bring someone in.

819
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 3: Yes.

820
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 6: I couldn't even even how sweet you guys were to

821
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 6: each other, getting ready and so excited and like fixing

822
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 6: each other's wigs and like it's my wig on straight,

823
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 6: Like yeah.

824
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 3: That ship was crazy, Like I just did not think so.

825
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 4: Yeah when Mandy said it's for queer people, the pleasure

826
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 4: is very gay.

827
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: Pleasure is fun. Pleasure is where I.

828
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 5: Find the couple in Mexico. So that story from the

829
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 5: podcast made.

830
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 6: It in Now my husband keeps asking me when we

831
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 6: can have.

832
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: We all going to Mexico. He's like, he's like to.

833
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 6: Have a unicorn experience. I'm like, no, boom.

834
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: Did he ever know?

835
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: Did he ever like fully read a chapter with you?

836
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 6: I would read it to him as I was working,

837
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 6: and he would be like, just did oh I know

838
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 6: he was warning he was he was like, they already

839
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 6: know what to do. He wouldn't say all that. I'd

840
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 6: be like, like my little sisters.

841
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 5: So after the pleasure segment we go to pain, yes,

842
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 5: and it was really important for us to not make

843
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 5: pain all about hurt yep. And so this is where

844
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 5: we're able to tie in the element of BDSM because

845
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 5: there's there's also pleasure and pain sometimes there is. So

846
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 5: we do add a trigger warning at the top of

847
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 5: this book because, like I said, there are elements of

848
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 5: sexual assault and abortion and heartbreak and all the things

849
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 5: that could trigger somebody in.

850
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 4: This book really like I think my three were a

851
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 4: BDSM pain, literal sexual violence like violent rape scene, and

852
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 4: then fucking heartbreak.

853
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: And it was like, yo, I don't think that anything

854
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 3: in this Pickton.

855
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 4: Chapter that anyone, even male, can't relate to true because

856
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 4: it's so fucking common. And what we did in the

857
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 4: book that I was kind of like, ah, is this

858
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 4: really gonna hit But it did was we started putting

859
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 4: stats in there, like how calm and what's happening to me?

860
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 1: One in four women like it's crazy.

861
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 4: It is even when it comes to the psyche, just

862
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 4: using little things we found online through surveys or whatever,

863
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 4: like figuring out what heartbreak does to your body or brain.

864
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 4: I just was so impressed with. I think pain is

865
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 4: my favorite section of.

866
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 3: The book because it's kind of hot, but it also

867
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 3: makes me cry.

868
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 5: Pain has the two chapters I'm most proud of, like

869
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 5: that I went through the quickest. So my abortion chapter

870
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 5: and my sexual assault chapter.

871
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: What's crazy is it took me.

872
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 5: It was harder for me to write chapters with my

873
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 5: ex Yes, it because I was going through that heartbreak presently. Yes,

874
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 5: But the chapters about my sexual assault and the abortion,

875
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 5: I wrote those the quickest. But I would say the

876
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 5: abortion chapter brought the most emotion. Yes, because I had

877
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 5: not spoken to my mom since my abortion about my

878
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 5: abortion or your friend or my friend that paid for

879
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 5: my So during this process, I interviewed people, So I

880
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 5: hit up my friends from middle school in high school,

881
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 5: I interviewed my mom, I recorded my therapy sessions, and

882
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 5: I literally had to talk to my mom for the

883
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 5: first time in seventeen years about this abortion that literally

884
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 5: got swept under the rug once it got done it,

885
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 5: that's it, right, And we had never talked about it again.

886
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 5: And I literally had to call her to get her

887
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 5: feelings about me going into her room right before work

888
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 5: with a positive pregnancy test, and I literally add that

889
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 5: I pissed out a Kroger down the street. Like so,

890
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 5: I put all these details in and shout out to

891
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 5: my good friend Keta.

892
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: I ended up letting her know I want to write

893
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: this book.

894
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 5: I need permission because she used her cold stone check

895
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 5: to pay for my abortion because my mom.

896
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 6: You guys weren't even close friends.

897
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 5: We weren't even that close to friends then, and her

898
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 5: dad had just passed, so she was helping to pay

899
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 5: the bills in her house like so to hear her

900
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 5: and for both of us to like cry and literally

901
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 5: having to go back. And every time I talk about this,

902
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 5: I get an interia because it's like wow, like for

903
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 5: what that meant in my life, needing that to happen,

904
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 5: to literally know that I'm this cold hearted person to

905
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 5: never even talk about how it impacted them.

906
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: At that moment, my mom.

907
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 5: Showed up, my best friend showed up, We fucking pulled

908
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 5: out the vacuum.

909
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: It was done.

910
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 5: I'm not a mother we could move on with our lives.

911
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 5: But I had never like sat with them to ask

912
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 5: them what helping me make that decision meant to them.

913
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 5: And I have a whole chapter literally about that, and

914
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 5: that was like that that meant a lot for me

915
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 5: to kind of close that chapter with with writing this chapter.

916
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great. So that one was good to

917
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: see one of.

918
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 6: Your best chapters.

919
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: That one I kind of already knew how I was.

920
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 4: The chapter of mine. My favorite of yours is that one.

921
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 4: That was my favor for sure, but it was so

922
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 4: early on you wrote it that I.

923
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: Was like, I did write it early on.

924
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 4: I was like, maybe something else will get me, but

925
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 4: that was actually it's really good.

926
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

927
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 5: I think the one that was the best written, the

928
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 5: worst story but to me felt more like my stories

929
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 5: was your sexual assault chapter. I thought, I thought that

930
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 5: the details in it, I think it took me on

931
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 5: more of an emotional journey than your other Your other

932
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 5: chapters just seemed like fun and more present, I think

933
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 5: because that was something that happened that pain.

934
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 4: Because the love chapter is the only one that brings

935
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 4: me the most pain because of the recent thing that

936
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 4: happened to it.

937
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 3: I actually felt like that story.

938
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, but nobody, Yeah, we didn't see that coming.

939
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, that I guess.

940
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 4: The sexual assault chapter for me, walking through that night

941
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 4: is so dark. But I've luckily, and just so many

942
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 4: people don't have this, I've been able to like truly

943
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 4: heal from it. It still makes you cry, it's yeah, but

944
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 4: I've forgiven.

945
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 3: Myself for it.

946
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 4: There was a lot of nights where I was like, well,

947
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 4: in my story, I already had sex with this person before.

948
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 4: So when I used to get upset about it, I

949
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 4: felt like nobody would resonate with it because they're like,

950
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 4: that makes.

951
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 6: It worse to me, that makes it infinitely worse.

952
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 4: We think when we're reading something violent like that it's

953
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 4: some guy in a ali that you didn't know.

954
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 3: That like attacks you.

955
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you said, you think it's worse when it's

956
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 4: someone you know. I feel like there wasn't really empathy

957
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 4: for me my whole life from people because I knew yeah, and.

958
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 6: Because I think also the woman at the counter, oh.

959
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the hotel to me, that's what I'm saying.

960
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 5: I think that one was the most narrative. Yes, Like

961
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 5: I think the other chapters, you go through your feelings

962
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 5: and there's little moments and pockets with the dialogue between

963
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 5: you and these people that to me felt the most emotional,

964
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 5: like that one I I think I told Tempest. I

965
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 5: was like, bro, I just read that chapter. I said

966
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 5: that chapter good as fucking I shouldn't say it because

967
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 5: it's about what it's about, but I was like that

968
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 5: that I literally told her.

969
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: I said, that was such a strong qua. It's fucked up,

970
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: it is fucked up.

971
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 4: But that abortion in the race stories are better than

972
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 4: the anal, Like, it's crazy.

973
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 5: It's different, it's different, it's different. You're going to be

974
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 5: on a fucking emotional roller coaster with this book. But

975
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 5: I think that because I loved what my Unicorn in

976
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 5: Mexico story ended up being. Mind you told completely in

977
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 5: a different way what happened to place. But the lens

978
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 5: that I tell the story is completely different than the

979
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 5: lens that I shared it here, which was really important

980
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 5: for me.

981
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 4: We actually didn't tell I think that's interesting because like

982
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 4: they were telling us, the publisher was saying a mixture

983
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 4: of stories people knew about us, but don't know even

984
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 4: the stories that you do. It's like, oh, like I

985
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 4: knew that Mexico story be like, ah, but you didn't

986
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 4: know all of it, reading things like from a different way,

987
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 4: like it's so and we can only deliver stories a

988
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 4: certain way on here.

989
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 6: I think that is the thing about podcasting the Mexico story.

990
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 6: For me, it's the internal dialogue that you're having with yourself.

991
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 6: It's how you're trying to free yourself. Is try how

992
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 6: you're letting yourself just be because there's no one around it.

993
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 5: And removing yourself. I think one of the biggest lessons

994
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 5: or why I like that chapter so much, not only

995
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 5: the story, but it literally is the fact that other

996
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 5: people's opinions and the perception of other people keep us

997
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 5: from exploring ourselves very much, which is what the theme

998
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 5: of that chapter ends up being. I literally go to

999
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 5: thinking like, if I was here with even my best friend,

1000
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 5: would you would I have left her to be with

1001
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 5: a couple. If I was with someone that even was

1002
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 5: just an associate, would I want them to know that

1003
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 5: I did this if they were here, so I wouldn't

1004
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 5: do it? Like literally diving into the ways in which

1005
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 5: so many ways in which we show up in our

1006
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 5: dating life, in the bedroom room, in how we navigate

1007
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 5: sex and partnerships, is through the lens of what everyone

1008
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 5: may fucking.

1009
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 6: Think, and the fact that these two strangers treated you

1010
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 6: better than my lovers that you had just been with,

1011
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 6: that I had just broken up.

1012
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: I was just going to bring this up.

1013
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 4: I had sex with someone with my partner on vacation

1014
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 4: and the girl's friend called her and I was like,

1015
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 4: oh my god, your friend's making sure you're not getting murdered.

1016
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 4: To call her back and she was like, I'm fling

1017
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 4: with a woman. She was like, I'm feeling good right now.

1018
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 4: It's not like I went home with some guy. And

1019
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, I never realized that sometimes it's

1020
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 4: the woman connection that makes us feel safer.

1021
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: Yes, Like when she said.

1022
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 4: It, she was joking and I was like, oh no,

1023
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 4: that kind of tracks yeah, because it's funny because the

1024
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 4: man in that situation, I remember him feeling when it

1025
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 4: all happened.

1026
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: He felt manipulated. He said, you, bitch just planned this.

1027
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 6: He thought it was He said, there's no way they

1028
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 6: did not happen.

1029
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 5: He said, this did not happen. Y'all knew each other before, bitch,

1030
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 5: you knew to come up with the plan this. He

1031
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 5: almost didn't even believe this could happen so naturally.

1032
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do believe that story, like it's so it's

1033
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 4: the way everybody wants a threesome happened.

1034
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 8: Yes, oh yeah, like you know what I mean, like

1035
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 8: perfect imagine there was tequila and everybody was hot, and

1036
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 8: then we did and then we fucking beach club hopped,

1037
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 8: went back to the hotel, ram the jacuzzie, fucked in

1038
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 8: the shower, had dinner that night.

1039
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 1: I had today the island.

1040
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 5: Together the next day and set her ass on a

1041
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 5: ferry back to the mainland.

1042
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: Like it was, it was great.

1043
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 5: What was your I guess what was your toughest moment

1044
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 5: within the pain section of this book before we get

1045
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 5: the progression.

1046
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I said, not the assault chapter.

1047
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 3: For me, it was heartbreak. It was a heartbreak. Heartbreak

1048
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 3: was bad for me because.

1049
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 4: I there was so many flaws and so much accountability

1050
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 4: I had to take in that heartbreak.

1051
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: Yes, you really say, and you really was acting like

1052
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 3: but it was.

1053
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 4: And that's the thing, right am I acting like it

1054
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 4: wasn't bad or did I just think?

1055
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 1: Do you normal?

1056
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 2: No?

1057
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 6: But do you remember that I literally had to make

1058
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 6: you ReadWrite part of it, yes, because I was like, Okay,

1059
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 6: I'm reading this and this guy sounds horrible, but I

1060
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 6: was making and you were like, he's fine, it wasn't

1061
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 6: so bad. I was like, this is this sucks, Like

1062
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 6: I hate this person. You said you hated him, Yeah,

1063
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 6: I do hate him.

1064
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: Oh but it's.

1065
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: Like what tell mer feeling was something I couldn't see.

1066
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 6: No, you couldn't. I did not, And she just kind

1067
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 6: of turning all these words about like he wasn't so bad,

1068
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 6: and like that's why I say, you know, I think

1069
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 6: she brought it.

1070
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 5: Up on Patreon. I was like audience four years because

1071
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 5: that nigga sounds awful.

1072
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 4: But I wasn't lying because by right, so that was

1073
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 4: something that was discovering the book. I wasn't lying because

1074
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 4: I really did think it was fine.

1075
00:48:58,600 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 1: He was nut.

1076
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 5: Here's the thing, Well, y'all really actually were gonna sell

1077
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 5: a book with this chapter. When y'all get to hear,

1078
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 5: well Obay was really fucking doing it was and how

1079
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 5: this bitch was like telling herself it was okay because

1080
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 5: of just other factors.

1081
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: This still didn't make him a great partner, but it

1082
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 1: wasn't y'all I had or hive gonna eat. This chapter

1083
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: was the depth.

1084
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 6: It was horrible.

1085
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 1: You know how I knew it was really bad?

1086
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 3: How when I read? I read every chapter out loud

1087
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 3: to my partner.

1088
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 4: When I was reading that chapter, he goes, you had

1089
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 4: sex to him and then turned over and cried.

1090
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1091
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 3: You were like, he was like what.

1092
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, And I was like it was such a

1093
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 6: reflex the fact that you had to spy on him

1094
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 6: all the time to know what was actually happening.

1095
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1096
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 4: Girl, I was so addicted. It was almost like it

1097
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 4: wasn't my life anymore.

1098
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 5: I think, you know what, like me, let's just blame

1099
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 5: the pandemic. It was in the air, you know, five

1100
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 5: g excuse today?

1101
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 8: You know what?

1102
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 4: Actually never said publicly, and I don't know who I

1103
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 4: mentioned in the book, Dave knows. I really feel that

1104
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 4: bad about what I was doing because I had a

1105
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 4: side nigga, Oh.

1106
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 5: Are you cheating on him the whole time? Look at

1107
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 5: even so we.

1108
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 6: Got to rewrite the chapter.

1109
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: No no, no, no bait about I'm gonna give y'all this team.

1110
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 4: I didn't cheat on him the whole time, just the

1111
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 4: right towards the end of the relationship. There you came

1112
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 4: this point where I was like, I'm totally checked out.

1113
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 4: I hate this guy. I've already read it out my

1114
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 4: crib in New York. We have a nice place in Mexico.

1115
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 4: We don't hate each other.

1116
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna find love somewhere else.

1117
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 6: You see my face.

1118
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: I feel like I know who the side nigga was.

1119
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 4: Don't even say it because I had my own man

1120
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 4: and I have my boyfriend. I know who say anything

1121
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 4: and do?

1122
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 1: Can we bleep it out and I'm gonna.

1123
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: Cover on out.

1124
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna bleep it out.

1125
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 5: All No, No, yeah, you was, That's why you kept

1126
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 5: He was like, I'm in LA for work.

1127
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: No, but you're getting dick.

1128
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 5: Your nigga lives in New York. She was like, yeah,

1129
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 5: I'm in l A at my other house. The weather's

1130
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 5: night's out here. No, bitch, you're getting dick from that.

1131
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: You actually like that? Ain't disrespecting?

1132
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 6: Yes, and I'm I'm supporting it.

1133
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: I picked up on the overlap though. I was like,

1134
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 1: came right into the picture.

1135
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 3: Well, no, he wasn't my side nig until we broke up.

1136
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: Okay, he was just right. Wait, he was right there. Yeah.

1137
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, some woman is laughing.

1138
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 5: Well, you wove sat in this goddamn studio for four

1139
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 5: years hearing about you crying over this nigga. For you

1140
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 5: to be cheating on this thing, never heard she was

1141
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 5: acting like he's perfect.

1142
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 1: He was the last we have a damn chapter. Gonna

1143
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: eat this chapter. But it wasn't about It wasn't until

1144
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: the end.

1145
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 3: That's why it wasn't really relevant.

1146
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: But I also was.

1147
00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 3: Just like to say, one thing, what you know, I

1148
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 3: not cheat on him for my.

1149
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 5: Honestly, the fact that he was making you go insane

1150
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 5: and then you still try to save him at the

1151
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 5: end of the chapter, like you still tried to make

1152
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 5: it seem like but he was fine, he had money,

1153
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 5: he was a god.

1154
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: Tell him.

1155
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 5: I felt bad and it was like, not you trying

1156
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 5: to say this nigga was a great guy.

1157
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, last three weeks of our relationship. He was out

1158
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 4: in Brooklyn. One night I was with Alex and I

1159
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 4: wanted to bring Alex around this other guy was fucking

1160
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 4: and Ope.

1161
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 3: Hit me like where are you at? And Alex was like,

1162
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 3: you're gonna go make me look at him right now.

1163
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:31,439
Speaker 3: You are gonna make.

1164
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: Me have trincks with both days, I guess in an hour.

1165
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: And I was like, what is big deal?

1166
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 3: I'm gonna break up for them one day, break up

1167
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 3: with him one day is.

1168
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 6: We had a your first date sucked?

1169
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 7: Oh?

1170
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: I know even that from the first date.

1171
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 6: The first date, I was like, run.

1172
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 3: You know what, I will say this, it's a little bit.

1173
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1174
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 3: Maybe there's a parallel here.

1175
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 4: I don't ever feel like I need a man to

1176
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 4: have a certain lifestyle. However, there was something about our

1177
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 4: similarities and how he liked having the same life. They

1178
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 4: made me think I can fix this other shit.

1179
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 6: You do this thing all the time where you're the

1180
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 6: wing woman in a relationship. Tell me more like you

1181
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 6: the m from woolf Is this good?

1182
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 8: No?

1183
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: I really know.

1184
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 6: So even in the relationship that you had with your

1185
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 6: sugar daddy, right, like, that's why he was the one

1186
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 6: Like you went out with him, you had fun, you partied,

1187
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 6: you had the best time, and you're like the fun person. Yeah,

1188
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 6: and that's what you did with old Bay too.

1189
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 4: I feel like I don't think I had a relationship

1190
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 4: where I wasn't the fun girl anymore until right now

1191
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 4: and with scissors. Yeah, And it's hitting me now because

1192
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 4: when things get dark, I'm feeling guilty.

1193
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: And why they.

1194
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 3: Say, oh, my god, I'm so sorry. I can't give this.

1195
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 3: I can't give that, and they're like, what the fuck?

1196
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 6: Like a real relationship, you get to be all of

1197
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 6: the versions of you.

1198
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: I may love you have.

1199
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 3: A real relationship with old Bay. I just had a coast.

1200
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 4: You were the wing woman, but it didn't feel like

1201
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 4: it because I was like, oh, these boxes are checked,

1202
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 4: and I think so many people are gonna read this

1203
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 4: chapter and be like, this is my relationship, right, Yeah, definitely,

1204
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 4: I hope not.

1205
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, guys, I'm afray.

1206
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 6: You guys shoot yourselves better.

1207
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: Whose X do you think it's gonna hit them first?

1208
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 3: After this book?

1209
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 5: So you know, when I ran into my ex at

1210
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 5: the funeral over the summer, I let him know that

1211
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 5: he was in the chapters, and I actually let him know.

1212
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 5: I love how I healed through this because he's not

1213
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 5: in there half as much as he was in the beginning.

1214
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: He was he was going to be in each section.

1215
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 5: He has maybe three mentions throughout the book, and he

1216
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 5: has one chapter and the one chapter is my last chapter.

1217
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 6: There many of the chapters that we thought were going

1218
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 6: to be centered around him him came about and let.

1219
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 3: Me say, everybody listening to his show, said, thank god.

1220
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 5: Thank god he has he has really one full chapter

1221
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 5: and it ties into so progression is our last last chapter?

1222
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 6: And can I say progression is my favorite?

1223
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: Progression might be my favorite regressions.

1224
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 5: However, when I read it, I'm like, you dumb bitch,

1225
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 5: So I call myself you dumb bitch. You're dumb bitch

1226
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 5: all throughout this chapter. So the themes within this chapter

1227
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 5: are me being a side chick. Yep, I'm like I

1228
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 5: had to sex work and my views around using my

1229
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,720
Speaker 5: pussy as a means to pay rent and live Alivish.

1230
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 4: Stop after names for a progression just for fun? Old

1231
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 4: on what was my last and my relationship with my heartbreak?

1232
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 4: So it says, what's your price for Mandy? Then why

1233
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 4: get persons when you can get a stock portfolio for Wheezy?

1234
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 4: Why do married men treat you better by Mandy? That's

1235
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 4: the Sad Chicks tea.

1236
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, does love show up when you aren't looking? Wheezy?

1237
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 3: Why do you need me to need you?

1238
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 1: Mandy?

1239
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 3: And then if nine million people are here, why do

1240
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 3: I feel alone? Wheezy? Yeah?

1241
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 6: I guess that was why do you need me to

1242
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 6: need you? I? Yeah, I recently did. I had to

1243
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 6: go through the entire book again, and it was interesting

1244
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 6: because it's been a little while. Yeah, and I literally

1245
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 6: I like wrote to Mandy and was like, I'm crying,

1246
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 6: like I'm reading your chapter right now. Yeah, and I'm crying,

1247
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 6: like the part where you get go to his truck,

1248
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 6: Like it was so on my fucking window with my

1249
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 6: ring and we're crying outside, and like I was like, oh,

1250
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 6: I felt like I was going through.

1251
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 4: So crazy because all of this happened in the middle

1252
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 4: of the book, literally in the middle of the book,

1253
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 4: and the why do I need you to need me?

1254
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 5: Goes into my my my need to disassociate with word

1255
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 5: with need and myself and value that I associated with

1256
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 5: sex and men, and so the fact that he needed

1257
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 5: me to need him pissed me off so much because

1258
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 5: I was like, niaga, I want you, I don't need you. Yes,

1259
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 5: And the book literally goes through the shame I experienced

1260
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 5: with what I've done with men in the past, where

1261
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 5: I actually did need them to pay a bill, to

1262
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 5: get through school, to do to.

1263
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: Get on a plane.

1264
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 6: Well, it's the fact that he also used that against.

1265
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 5: Oh, he used it against me real bad, so that

1266
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 5: and so to me that that chapter was the hardest

1267
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 5: one for us to get through. I sat on that

1268
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 5: until the very end.

1269
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: That was that was the last chapter I wrote.

1270
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, you were like, I don't. I was like, you

1271
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 6: can do it, but you.

1272
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 5: Know what's crazy universe When I saw him, Yep, that's

1273
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 5: when I knew I needed to add our last text message.

1274
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 5: So the chapter even becomes a little bit about closure

1275
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 5: and me finding just the power, which is why it's

1276
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 5: the last chapter in the book for me. The power

1277
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 5: to feel safe within myself, to know that I can

1278
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 5: be with someone I want, that I don't need partnership,

1279
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 5: that I actually love myself, that I'm confident, that I'm secure,

1280
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 5: that I'm financially able to just exist and and experience

1281
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 5: all that life has to give without the association or

1282
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 5: attachment to a man because he makes some money.

1283
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: So it was great. That was that was a great chapter.

1284
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 6: Your three stories there like really take you through the

1285
00:57:58,520 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 6: entire journey.

1286
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 4: And I feel like money talking the book actually about

1287
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 4: men and money.

1288
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like as.

1289
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 4: To women that have don't need it now, it was

1290
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 4: interesting to go in yeah and like see, you know

1291
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 4: it's crazy. Actually just made me think when I read

1292
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 4: the Sugar Daddy chapter to my partner, he was like,

1293
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 4: I feel like he was oddly turned on because he

1294
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 4: felt like he was hearing about this other person.

1295
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 3: He was like, Yo, this is fucking like, what's wrong

1296
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 3: with you?

1297
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 4: That's kind of nasty, Like you wanted to fuck this

1298
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 4: niggat and he didn't require you to fuck him.

1299
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, it was just hot to do it.

1300
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 4: But I think that's also obviously from a privileged place, right, Like, yes,

1301
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 4: I got to have this Sugar Daddy experience of there's

1302
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 4: two types, right, Like I've fucked somebody for money because

1303
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 4: I needed to pay my rent, and then I moved

1304
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 4: to New York wanted extra and like was this girl

1305
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 4: that was kind of like having this very TV experience.

1306
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 4: That's what my brain was like. When he would come,

1307
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 4: he would come on this private plane, it was his.

1308
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 4: He would come over, take me shopping. It was just

1309
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 4: this thing, and.

1310
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 6: I was like it was like being in a TV show.

1311
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 4: And then it started to hit me like Okay, but

1312
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 4: I need to do this when he's gone, Like I

1313
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 4: need to be like this, I need to be this.

1314
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 3: Man with you.

1315
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:19,959
Speaker 6: You want to be him?

1316
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 4: Right? I want and that was something I wrote, I

1317
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 4: want to be you like, yeah, I don't know if

1318
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 4: a lot of women get to have that experience within

1319
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 4: a sugardaddy, because we're not always treated right by men

1320
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 4: that are paying for sex. A lot of sex workers

1321
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,439
Speaker 4: not treated right but being spoiled by him.

1322
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 3: It did the opposite to me. Did not make me

1323
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Speaker 3: want to be my mother, didn't make me want to

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00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 3: be a housewife. I was like, I gotta get rich.

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Speaker 4: It made you driven, like it's crazy because I don't

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00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 4: know if anyone else has this experience. But I was

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00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 4: flying home and I got first class and I literally

1328
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 4: said to myself, I will never like not on manifestation.

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Speaker 3: Shit, this is it. I will never fucking fly economy

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00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,479
Speaker 3: again for twenty hours. I won't.

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01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 4: I don't need to, I don't need to take the trip.

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01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 4: This is my life. This is how I'm going to

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Speaker 4: live my life. Yes, And a lot of my friends

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01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 4: said to me recently, like, yo, you say this even

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01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 4: when it's not happening. I took a flight with one

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01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 4: of my friends to like some one of them small

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01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 4: countries in between Europe. We were on the back of

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01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 4: the plane and he said, you know, the whole time,

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01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 4: you were like, this isn't even high lived, This isn't

1340
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 4: gonna happen on the next one, This is not gonna

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01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 4: happen to me.

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Speaker 3: This ain't me, nigga, this is a moment.

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01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 4: And I was like, yo, I really said that. He's like, yes,

1344
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 4: And I love that. In this book.

1345
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 3: There's a lot of good talking to yourself.

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01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 1: Yes, you really get to have that.

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01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 3: There's a lot of pain, but there's a lot of

1348
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 3: cheers in yourself. You'll smile a lot when reading a

1349
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 3: bad story or through a heartbreak because you're like, yeah, bitch,

1350
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 3: like you got to get through that. And I liked

1351
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 3: some of these girl power themes that weren't on purpose.

1352
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 5: They weren't on purpose at they weren't on purpose, but

1353
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 5: we definitely cheered ourselves on.

1354
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, bitch, you could do better than that. Yes, bitch,

1355
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: you got this.

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01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 3: Yeah it's the inner voice shit.

1357
01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: And yes, I call myself bitch all the time.

1358
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 6: Yes you do.

1359
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: I like, but you did it.

1360
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 6: And you'll tell people you're not gonna like this.

1361
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 5: But but what it is. But no, we're really excited

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01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 5: for you guys to join us. At the end, we

1363
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 5: come together yet again to talk about what power means

1364
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 5: to us and how you can make sure you and

1365
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 5: still power within yourself. So it's literally a fool literally

1366
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 5: from start to finish, an emotional roller coaster of.

1367
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: Love, sucks and violence. But no, but yeah, it's it's fine.

1368
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 4: That just it really hit me in a pleasure chapter

1369
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 4: talking about the first Thanks too easy.

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01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 5: It's more queer than it would have been. It's just

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01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 5: the baby I talk about all all these niggas. The

1372
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 5: only woman is the unicorn story in Mexico for me.

1373
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 5: But y'all know, I just fuck bitches.

1374
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: I don't really.

1375
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 6: You're not looking for love there?

1376
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wasn't really looking for love. But it's just great.

1377
01:01:59,280 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 5: It's great.

1378
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 1: And with crazy is the people that actually have been

1379
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: the most present over the last decade to decade and

1380
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: a half. Very minimal cameos in this book.

1381
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 5: Like if you're a listener of this of this podcast,

1382
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 5: I think you would think every chapter would have a

1383
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 5: twenty four to seven, a toy friend, a lawyer, Bay,

1384
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 5: those are maybe my top three.

1385
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 6: No, No, it's about you.

1386
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: Was what I used to call your toy.

1387
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 5: Friend, was my ex toy friend, was my right and

1388
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 5: he's not in there. Like, but the one chapter and

1389
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 5: maybe I mentioned our one visit to the dungeon. I

1390
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 5: broke down, that's all. It's all about me and community

1391
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 5: that I found in New York twenty four to seven

1392
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 5: is only the anal sex story.

1393
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you're just using him there.

1394
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 4: I think crazy knowing that a lot of yeah, a

1395
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 4: lot of the people in his book like especially, but

1396
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 4: I'm thinking just because you said Scissors besides does maybe

1397
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 4: her and my partner I've never met.

1398
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 3: Oh, you haven't met him either. Here in New York

1399
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 3: date needs to have both of them.

1400
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 6: I'm so excited because wait, have who here? Scissors and

1401
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 6: her man need to be there?

1402
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 5: Yeah three, y'all ain't me and none of my niggas,

1403
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 5: nobody in the book coming. Maybe my mom, my best

1404
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 5: friend want to meet you. I might bring Keita, who

1405
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 5: helped pay for my abortions, want to meet in person.

1406
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 5: Y'all are not meeting any of my lovers ever, Like

1407
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 5: I'm scared to go to this premiere with my boyfriend now,

1408
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 5: like nigga, what if we have a getdy and this

1409
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 5: is instilled in the internet forever?

1410
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: Like I am scared to be published.

1411
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 6: I mean the person I'm living vicariously through you.

1412
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, my boyfriend, me and my me and me. You

1413
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 1: love a fucking side story.

1414
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 5: When we went to lunch after we did the Simon

1415
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 5: and Schuster and he called me with his accent and

1416
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 5: she was like that accent.

1417
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 6: You know what British with this?

1418
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 3: The story you like the most was a British guy.

1419
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: Man. You might have a little teen you have a

1420
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: team for a little britt man.

1421
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 6: I'm obsessed with David Bowie, like since I was eight

1422
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 6: years old.

1423
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 3: I understand.

1424
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 6: Okay, that's my husband.

1425
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 1: That might be what it is. That might be what

1426
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: it is.

1427
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 6: That's part of it.

1428
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 3: We know what your next role play need to be.

1429
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 3: He can sorry, y'all speak Cockney.

1430
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 5: Well, y'all, we need you to help us become New

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Speaker 5: York Times bestsellers by pre ordering this book that comes

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01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 5: out June twenty fourth, twenty twenty five. We will be

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01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 5: announcing our book tour soon. We will be coming to

1434
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 5: as many cities near you. So motherfucker talk about this

1435
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 5: book to put on a hell of a show. But

1436
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Speaker 5: make sure again independent bookstores, Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, wherever

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Speaker 5: you need to purchase this book, make sure you go

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Speaker 5: no holds barred a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power.

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01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna write this down.

1440
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 4: To We also are going to include a list of

1441
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 4: black bookstores just even if it's not in your area.

1442
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Speaker 3: We're gonna have this list. We're gonna have it for

1443
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 3: you on Patreon.

1444
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we're about to write this as a script

1445
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 5: because I love that y'all been. I love that y'all

1446
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 5: been motherfucking putting in the comments. How y'all feel away

1447
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 5: that motherfucker is Charlemagne ain't been talking about us.

1448
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: On the Brilliant Idiots. So we go make sure that

1449
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: y'all had that motherfucker and.

1450
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 6: Tell them to keep their receipts because lots of oh.

1451
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a statives coming for y'all.

1452
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 3: Oh duh, yes, yes we do.

1453
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1454
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 5: By the way, I know, I keep looking at the

1455
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 5: wrong wide. Maybe they could see our will as a fuck.

1456
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 5: Maybe if I look crossied, it doesn't matter. I got

1457
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 5: a nigga now, so they gonna be like this cross.

1458
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 5: I hope my nigga like you anyway. Anyways, Also, we

1459
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 5: wait which one we will have presents as well. We

1460
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 5: will be at the Black Effect Festival for twenty six

1461
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 5: in Atlanta, Georgia, where we will be having also wait

1462
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 5: for you to order the book there. We have an

1463
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 5: incentive there for you as well. But this year we

1464
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 5: are hosting the motherfucking Black Effect Festival.

1465
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Speaker 1: We are there for eight hours.

1466
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 5: We're there the whole day. Maybe I don't know why

1467
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 5: we ain't negotiate more. That's a full motherfucking day.

1468
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 6: Can I come come on home?

1469
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: Yes, come on day. Yeah, we'll be Yeah.

1470
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 5: I believe we're making it to where if you do

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Speaker 5: a pre order book, we're giving you a bookmark and

1472
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Speaker 5: a sign poster, so that'll be present you get to

1473
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 5: meet us. But baby, you don't get to meet us

1474
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 5: unless you pre order book. Ain't gona hold You'm gonna

1475
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 5: be like, show up.

1476
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Speaker 1: How to you baby? Pre order this goddamn book?

1477
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Speaker 6: No bar, you're NFS best seller.

1478
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 1: Here we go speaking it into existing.

1479
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 4: Come on, just like last see, I don't live like this.

1480
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 4: I'm only in the best sellers now y'all got.

1481
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: Star and then mooning around here. Anyways, Thank you guys

1482
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: so much.

1483
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 5: This has been a special episode of Decisions, Decisions, and again, if.

1484
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 1: You're a Horror Hove member, do what it does. Twenty

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Speaker 1: nine ninety nine.

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Speaker 5: Get y'all motherfucking book now, and we're excited to see

1487
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 5: y'all on the road this summer tempest.

1488
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: Say by to them.

1489
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Speaker 6: Sorry, I know I'm still fucking okay. Why would every

1490
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 6: one by lean