1 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Spring training baseball is finally here. We have some games 2 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: to talk about with you guys. We saw so many 3 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: amazing things, which is crazy to say. In the first 4 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: two days of Mets baseball and spring training Want Soto 5 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: home run, Clay Holmes, oh my god, Clay Holmes, Simon one. 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: Everybody was doing a lot of big things. 7 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of things we have to talk 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: about in today's episode. We appreciate you guys for coming 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: out and watching or listening whatever you're doing it on. 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: Make sure you are subscribed to the Mets Stuff Podcast 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: YouTube channel so you can see the video version of this. 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: And if you're listening to us Apple Podcast, Spotify, Google 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: drops a rating, drops review, download and subscribe, and you 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: guys might notice James is looking clear, good, good camera quality. 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: Everything's going James. Are you back in the US? Hey, 16 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: let the people know. 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 3: I am officially as of like a couple hours ago. 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: The Cambra quality was good besides the Town episode. Don't 19 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: get me wrong, there was. It was basically good the 20 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 3: whole time, except the one time I had to do 21 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: on my phone in a hostile That was the one, 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: but it still we still got the episode that I 23 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 3: still got Frank Motzis talking. That was great. Happy back 24 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: in America. Transferred back through China, which is super weird, 25 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: but I don't it was just it was strange place. 26 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 3: No no baseball savon one of the websites that's blocked 27 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 3: in China. Couldn't get to Baseball Savan with Chinese Wi 28 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 3: Fi during during my layover in the airport, which is 29 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 3: really frustrating, but super super fucking happy to be back 30 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: and have like legitimate Mets baseball on television because I 31 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: think you're right, like there was so much exciting stuff 32 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: talk about in the first two day of spring training. 33 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: Part of it like, yeah, this stuff's definitely really exciting. 34 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 3: Part is also like, holy shit, is baseball on TV. 35 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: That's that's the main exciting thing right now, Which is 36 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 3: the best part. 37 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, besides just watching the Mets, I've been 38 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: locked into spring training in general. Like before we even 39 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: started recording this, I was like, see Jack kagleon today, 40 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: hit a ball one fifteen. We've been mentioning random players 41 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: doing big things. It's always fun to see the guys 42 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: that make improvements hit the ball harder, pitching harder, nastier pitches, 43 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: new pitcher repertoires, and we got a couple of those 44 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: guys on our team to talk about. But first, I 45 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: think we have to start this episode with the man, 46 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: the myth, the legend. Juan Soto in his first step bat, 47 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: first game, first ever smelling of the air as a 48 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: New York met on the baseball field, steps up to 49 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: the plate, hits a four hundred and twenty foot home 50 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: run to left center field. He can't make it up 51 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: with this guy. He's unbelievable. The aura that Wan Soto 52 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: has is out of control. 53 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 3: It's just ridiculous. They stepped up to the play and 54 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: the first time he had that bats and opps fields 55 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: were wrong. Like, dude, I'm not saying Clover Park because 56 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 3: I got this big Picture's park, but it's like deepest 57 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 3: part of the Clover Park right there. It's not really 58 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: easy to get about opposon field in February and Clover 59 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: It's just that was It was also so perfect because 60 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 3: I think that this was like you're not really suppos 61 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 3: to get that he study best spring training games, like 62 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: we get excited the best spring training games because we're 63 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: like sick in the head, But like this was I 64 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 3: saw Tacomo Tween that this was the second highest gate 65 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 3: set tickets ever. His second most tickets sold are for 66 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 3: a spring training opener besides for the Matt Harvey's return 67 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: from time of John surgery in twenty fifteen. That was 68 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 3: number one, where Cindergard pitched in relief, which I thought 69 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 3: was pretty cool, but this was number two. He said, 70 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: Apparently all the riders are saying, the buzz around there 71 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: is crazy. There's so many more people there than usual, 72 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 3: just like there's an energy. The fact that he steps 73 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 3: up to the play for the first time and just 74 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: annihilate to baseball off of minor leaguer. We'll say that 75 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: who the fuck cares? It was. It was such a 76 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: cool moment. It was kind of like an amazing like wow, 77 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: this is this is We keep saying we're having these 78 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 3: moments like oh wow, this is real. Oh Wow, this 79 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: is real. OHI, this is real, and we're definitely gonna 80 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: have a lot more of them. This was another one 81 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: where I was like, oh wow, this is real. 82 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 2: Yeah. 83 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: There's not really anything to deep dive into about Wan Soto. 84 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: It's more of the narrative stuff at this point of like, 85 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: holy shit, he's wearing the Mets jerseys he's wearing Oragin blue. 86 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: This feels amazing, This feels perfect, Like ah, I can't 87 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: ask for anything better. And especially one thing that I 88 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: missed as well from this offseason coming back to games. 89 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: We got our favorite uncles back, Gary, Keith and Ron 90 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: for the first game down in Port Saint Lucie. They 91 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: were in peak form already. I don't know how these 92 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: guys don't miss a beat, but literally from day one, 93 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: pitch one, Gary, Keith and Ron were phenomenal as always 94 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: and why is the best? 95 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:48,839 Speaker 2: Yeah? 96 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: Why was the best? 97 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: John D. 98 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: Maursico also put up the video of the solo home run, 99 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 3: like how it looking in the truck, which I always 100 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: loved to puts those videos up. But like Keith was 101 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: getting distracted by like a pickleball player and they were 102 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: telling stories and the kid was screaming let's go met 103 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: to the top of his lungs. Like it's just it's 104 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: like these kind of things you take for granted when 105 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 3: this is happening every single day during the summer. 106 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: It's nice to have him back now. 107 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: I know what you've been most excited to talk about here, 108 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: getting into the nitty gritty of pitching. I don't know 109 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: if you guys felt the same way that maybe me 110 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: and James did watching this. I can speak for James 111 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: because I was I was feeling this way. I know 112 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: the pitching man is. Clay Holmes was really really fucking 113 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: impressive in his first start in the majors in a 114 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: very very long time. 115 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: Like, especially for the Mets, it was like, whoa hold on? 116 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: They they might have cooked. 117 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 3: Here seeing it on the mound. I think it kind 118 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 3: of clicks to a lot of what like we were 119 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 3: talking about a lots of soft season, but I was 120 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 3: saying when they signed him, just with a lot of 121 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: people Twy've been saying for a while now, it's just 122 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 3: but seeing it sometimes, seeing the pitches, seeing how uncomfortable 123 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 3: that bad is for the other hitters, with how many 124 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 3: pitches Clay Holmes just pulled out of his bag for 125 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 3: no damn reason whatsoever. Like results in spring training are cool. 126 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 3: We love that he went three innings. They were like, 127 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 3: I think it was three or four strikeouts, And I'm 128 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: saying the results of cool at true, don't even don't 129 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 3: even remember the results for Clay Holmes, But like the 130 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: shit you want to look at spring training is actionable. 131 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 3: It was three perfect things with three strikeouts. That's amazing. 132 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 3: But you want to see the actionable stuff. You want 133 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 3: to see the way pitches are movie. You want to 134 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 3: see which pitches he's using in wisch counts. You want 135 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 3: to see how a hardy's throwing. All this stuff is 136 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 3: really important. And like a lot of people were like, 137 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 3: this is ridiculous. You only faced minor league hillers. 138 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 139 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 3: Again, he only faced minor league hitherers. That's why we 140 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: kind of have to throw out the results, like three innings, 141 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: three strikeouts. Who cares. But the fact that he's throwing 142 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 3: this new change up the kick change and it looks disgusting. 143 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: The fact that he got to ninety eight miles an 144 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: hour on a sinker and he held it at ninety 145 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 3: five over thirty five pitches, that's really awesome. Zacky's got 146 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: a new color that looks like a weapon against the 147 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: Letzi's that's really awesome. The fact that he was using 148 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 3: the four steamed fastball looked like it had just perfectly 149 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: acceptable pitch traits. Like the fact that he was able 150 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: to marry all those things and bridge all those things 151 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: together in a three inning sample on the mound, which 152 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 3: he hasn't done that much in the last few years 153 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 3: at all. He may have only done one or two 154 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,679 Speaker 3: three inning appearances in the last few years. It's incredibly, incredibly 155 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: exciting to see the package together and be like, this 156 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 3: is the fact that this is this functional this early 157 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: leaves me to think there might even be more ceiling 158 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,799 Speaker 3: on this than we kind of thought the last few months. 159 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: Can you remember the last time a starter win three 160 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 3: innings as well in a spring training debut opener like 161 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: that is also super interesting, which means the Mets are 162 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: very focused on getting him ready for day one to 163 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 3: be able to give you some length out of the rotation. 164 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: And I'm probably assuming that Frankie Montas going down has 165 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 3: to do with a little bit of that, maybe expediting 166 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 3: how ready or how many innings Clay Homes could. 167 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: Go to start the year. 168 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: But I think where I wanted to go before we 169 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: start talking more about the pitches and the stuff, is 170 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: that I thought it was really cool too that you know, 171 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: we'll tell you the numbers, we'll tell you the analytic 172 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: stuff for like the nerd talk, but then here like 173 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: Gary Keith and Ron talking about just like visually what 174 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: it looked like watching Clay Holmes pitch, they were like 175 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: kind of oohing an aye over how dominant and how 176 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: in control he was on the mound. And specifically they 177 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: were like, I can't believe how many ground balls worm 178 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: burners or worm killers they were calling it that this 179 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: guy gets no one really pieced up the ball particularly 180 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: well off of him. 181 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 3: Well, Bryce Matthews did, Oh no, that was Danielle was 182 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: talking about that. Ye. Yeah, but Ron I think also 183 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 3: specifically mentioned made McKeith. I can't remember that. It looks 184 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: like it hitters are uncomfortable. I think that's the best 185 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: thing for guy that Clay Holmes, whereas he's moved from 186 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 3: bullpen to rotation, he's never gonna have the crazy stuff anymore. 187 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: Because when you're when you're gassing it up for fifteen 188 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 3: pitches and you're throwing one hundred miles and now demon 189 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: sinkers and sweepers across his own like it's it's different 190 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 3: when you're doing max ever for one inning. So all 191 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 3: this stuff's going to come down a little bit. But 192 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 3: the key is that if he has enough and he's 193 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: so big and long and kind of overbearing on the 194 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 3: mount and the sinker is crazy that he can make 195 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: the bad as uncomfortable, and it seems like I think 196 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: Ron mentioned that. I can't remember specifically, it was like 197 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 3: two o'clock in the morning, I was watching this in Vietnam, 198 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: but that's like, that's what it felt like, That's what 199 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 3: it seemed like, and then it's yeah. I also mentioned 200 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: last episode two episodes ago. I think it was before 201 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 3: the mods century that Holmes talked specifically about that he 202 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 3: was already ups like thirty to fifty pitches in three 203 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 3: innings because he said that, or maybe I don't remember 204 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: who was May Mendozo was like, it's gonna be a 205 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: long row to get him from fifty to seventy. That's 206 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: going to be the huge heart look, because that's what 207 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 3: he really hasn't done a very long time. That's going 208 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: to be the jump, which is a big reason why 209 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: he's this far ahead. I think he's probably going to 210 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 3: be stuck in this spot for another few weeks when 211 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: the other pitchers start moving to four. He might still 212 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: be at three years or getting to four late relative 213 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: Toori is now. But that next leap that he's gonna 214 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: have to make late in March, that's gonna be the 215 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: really important one to see Clay Holmes how much volume 216 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: he can give us early in season and we might 217 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 3: really need it. 218 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was just thoroughly impressed from the 219 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: first inning if I knew that you had your like 220 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: phone more ready, because again you were like live tweet, 221 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in Vietnam. 222 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: It's gonna be two am. I don't know how much 223 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be able to do. 224 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: But I was texting my dad, I was texting shout 225 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: out of our friend Clay, and we were like, man, 226 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: Clay Holmes, it looks looks like a legit starting picture 227 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: right now. 228 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: We're not gonna go to like anything crazy and. 229 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: Be like the next Cy Young and Ace, none of that, 230 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: but like right now, it looks like he is going 231 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: to be We're on the path to be a very 232 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: very capable and we're like valuable starting pitcher in this rotation. 233 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: The worst case scenario is that what he put forward 234 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 3: was a starter's repertoire, was like a starter's back because 235 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 3: the sinker still lost. Me threw a lot of those. 236 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: The sweep are still great. He threw a lot of those. 237 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: He threw a couple of the gyro sliders, which is 238 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: like the tight slier that just drops down a little 239 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: bit that you can throw the both lefties and arieties 240 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 3: a handful of those. He's also throwing a new color 241 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 3: that was coming in harder and had a little bit 242 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 3: more like kind of lifty like fastball action on it 243 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 3: that he's gonna be able to pitch against the lefties 244 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 3: because he can be able to kind of mimic the 245 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 3: four seam fastball and the color against the lefties. Could 246 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: be able to ton of those pitches so they look similar. 247 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 3: But the change ups the big deal for Clay Holmes 248 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 3: because he needed something that could possibly make left handed 249 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: hitters swing and miss or just I mean probably more 250 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 3: of a swing and miss pitch. And this kick change. 251 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: I was talking to the friend of the program, pitching 252 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 3: development god, Isaac Groffman about this. It's a very new pitch, 253 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: like it's not something that's been thrown a lot. And 254 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: that's because when pitchers throw it for you guys watching 255 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,599 Speaker 3: us on YouTube, they had the two fingers around the 256 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: ball and they kind of kick it, they kind of 257 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: spike it with their middle finger. So it's a hard 258 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: thing to control. But apparently it's better when you have 259 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 3: longer fingers to control it with your other two, which 260 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: is good for Clay Holmes. Apparently the only guys been 261 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: able to do this well for the last few years 262 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: is Loco Web. He's turned that pitcher to a complete weapon. 263 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 3: He kind of uses that with the sinker, just enough 264 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 3: fastballs and colors to make it all come together. But 265 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 3: it still wasn't even like that good yet, because like 266 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: Clay Holmes working this offseason at TRED and Ben Brewster 267 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 3: from tread Quotes with You, Isaac, it was basically like, yeah, 268 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 3: he was getting to net. He was getting to negative 269 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: ten induced vertical break, which is like ten I don't 270 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: even know how to grab on the podcast. But it 271 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 3: was dropping a lot more, is the best way cloak 272 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: Away says. It was dropping a lot more. Klay's was 273 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 3: barely dropping and he was throwing a ninety miles an hour, 274 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: which is kind of hard as fuck, especially you're still 275 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: getting between like ninety five and ninety seven with the fastballs. 276 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 3: It's awesome, like this is such a good development. I 277 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: can't even imagine how positive Clay holmes The spring debut 278 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 3: could have been. I even thought it was crazy that 279 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: they made him the first spring training start. With all 280 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 3: of this kind I'm not gonna say pressure riding on it, 281 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: but I think he was the one where we were 282 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: going to learn the most, the most suit with Clay 283 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 3: Holmes pitching and the fact that was the first one 284 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 3: bang in our face, that's great. 285 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: And the part of the reason too, is like they 286 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: wanted to see him early. Let's throw him into the 287 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: first game so we know exactly what we have to 288 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: attack with him, and we have the most time rather 289 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: than waiting three or four extra days. 290 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: Those could be valuable. 291 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think the biggest thing again with Clay 292 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 3: Holmes is that he worked up to thirty. Cool, but 293 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 3: you could do thirty. Thirty is easy. He did thirty 294 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: as a closer plenty of times. It's going to be 295 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 3: the fifty sixty seventy. That's huge. And the fact that 296 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 3: his fastball, because he didn't really throw in the bullpenks 297 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: is the forcing fastball is not that good of a pitch. 298 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 3: It's okay pitch. When that's ninety four, ninety five, ninety six, 299 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: you can get away with shit. Ninety four is the 300 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 3: magic number. If he starts extending the seventy pitches and 301 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 3: that fastball falls below ninety four. This outlook is going 302 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: to change a lot, So keep looking on where he's 303 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 3: sitting with his velocity when this number keeps going up. 304 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 3: That's the one thing to look out for. 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That's arenaclub dot com slash 326 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 4: foul code foul for twenty percent off your first purchase. 327 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was. 328 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: It was really really encouraging, and I'm excited to see 329 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: what he does the rest of the spring and can't 330 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: wait to see what he can do during the regular season. 331 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: I thought it was a little bit strange watching the game, 332 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: did you? 333 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't. I shouldn't say this. 334 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: I didn't think it was a little bit strange, but 335 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: it is a weird question that I feel like we've 336 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: talked about on this podcast probably more than anybody. But 337 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: everybody was wearing the purple Grimace jerseys. I think that 338 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: might have been because of the seven line. They looked great. 339 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: The jerseys looked awesome. Do we are we still holding 340 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: on to Grimace and the OMG stuff still is? Are 341 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: we are we grasping a little too tight trying to. 342 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: Keep that around? 343 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: It seems like that the team might try to and 344 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 3: not that's necessarily like the team team's fallow away but 345 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 3: just seems like the fans are continuing to gravitate towards that, 346 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 3: so the team would be stupid not to continue to market. 347 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 3: Of course, it's also awkward where like Wan So hits 348 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 3: a home run and like Jose Glacier's comments OMG and 349 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: the Mets official Instagram page, and the next day Nick 350 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: Magical might have separated his shoulder, which is even more 351 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: awkward for this whole conversation. But just to me, it 352 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 3: feels like to me, it feels like if you have 353 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 3: you have a new team's new guys in the locker room, 354 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 3: you have to figure out new shit, Like you have 355 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: to let these things come organical, like those things were 356 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 3: so great last year because they came organically. If you 357 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: force a bit, if you force a thing, it always stinks, 358 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 3: it never works out. So I do think that I 359 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 3: also did feel like it was kind of weird that 360 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 3: they were still doing OMG stuff. Like I love Jay Customs, 361 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 3: I think he should keep making his science the signs 362 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 3: of dope, but I think specifically for the team and 363 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 3: the fans, Twitter everything, we probably should leave that. It worked. 364 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: It was perfect for us, but it's it's I don't know, 365 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 3: you have to definitely see where they take us. 366 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: It's it will be interesting if Jose Iglesias is legitimately 367 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: not on this team, what you do with like the 368 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: OMG stuff, or if he even weirder ever plays for 369 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: another team, what do you do with that? It's gotta 370 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: be over then, right, it's like no longer applicable to 371 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five Mets. 372 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 3: I even feel bad right now for this whole Nick 373 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: Theagrigal situation because he didn't ask to get signed as 374 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 3: like as an optionable player in this Mets team or 375 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: not an oportubal player. He asked for the invite to 376 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 3: spring training, and people hate him because he's not Jose 377 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 3: Glacias and he happens to get hurt when he was 378 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 3: like playing some decent shortstop, Like he's trying to be 379 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 3: fresh of ball players, trying to like make a living, 380 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 3: and people like his Instagram posts to like about like 381 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 3: being injured and stuff, like people comedic about Hoose Lacias, 382 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 3: Like that's kind of sad for him. That's like definitely 383 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 3: cringe behavior. I'm not super proud of mess Fands for. 384 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: I thought it was a little honey mall what we 385 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: were seeing today on Twitter when it was announced, like 386 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: Tim Heely is putting out tweets and Diacomo and everybody 387 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: about how Nick Madrigal left the game with shoulder discomfort, 388 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: and you have people excited that this means Jose Glazer 389 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: come back and listen. I agree, Jose Glacias is a 390 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: better player than Nick Madrigal. I'm not going to be 391 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: making that argument that Madrigal deserves a spot over Iglesias. 392 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: I would prefer Glasias. I think he's better. I think 393 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: he's better for this team to better fit. But at 394 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: the same time, like the weird like public cheering. I 395 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: don't think it's like meant to be a personal shot 396 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: at Nick Madrigal, but it's always weird to like be 397 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: celebrating guy's injury because you think it might help somebody else. 398 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: Always awkward. 399 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: Along with the fact that people were, like David Stearns, 400 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: oh for two, it's like you think Nick Madrigal is 401 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: one of these big East moves Jose Glacier started to 402 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: hear in Triple A last year, like we have to 403 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: gain some perspective again. 404 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: I think everybody was very excited Baseball's back. 405 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: Everybody's ready that it's going, but sometimes we can take 406 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of deep breath. I know, we uh, 407 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: I mean myself included kind of have had some overreactions 408 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: on this podcast the things that the Mets have done. 409 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: Don't want to turn into that fan base though, by 410 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: any beans. 411 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gotta be nice to the guys on the field. 412 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: Like it's again like Macmagical's just do right out trying 413 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: to make a living. He's trying to try to trying 414 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 3: to keep the career going, and like I I was 415 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: probably I'm sure he's not reading this stuff either, but 416 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 3: it's just not I was never nice to like use 417 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 3: someone getting like tearing someone down to try and pull 418 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 3: somebody up, Like that's just not that cool, especially when 419 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: I think a big reason that even Nick Magical is 420 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 3: brought here in the first place is because it doesn't 421 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 3: matter if he doesn't make the team, you know what 422 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 3: I mean, Like Davis starts bringing him in the exact 423 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 3: same way he brought in Jose Glaciers last year, where 424 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 3: it's like you can be here, you cannot be here. 425 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 3: But like the first the most important thing is seeing 426 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: what some of these young guys have. I think that's 427 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: going to be a big theme this spring, and I 428 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: know that he's kind of becoming mister March. It's kind 429 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: of always been his thing. But Brett Bay they smacking 430 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 3: one hundred time mile and now double to the pull 431 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 3: side today. But I see with my eyes against a 432 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 3: major league believer, Hissustnoko is kind of not really bad. 433 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 3: I still think about those things, so those saws still 434 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 3: creeping in my mind. I kind of can't really do 435 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 3: anything about it. 436 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: Call him schmetch Mady, and all of a sudden you're 437 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: thinking really big, exciting things for schmetzch Mady. But because 438 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: he has Brett Baty, people get a little bit worried. 439 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: And I get it. I understand the concerns. I saw 440 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: someone on Twitter comp them to Kelly Johnson, and I 441 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: can't shake it. I looked at their stances, they even 442 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: someone look the same. They have similar builds. Brett Batty 443 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: is more of a third base more. I think Kelly 444 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: Johnson was more of a second baseman. But hey, when 445 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: we see Brett Baty might be trying to play a 446 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: little bit of second base, I think Brett Baty would 447 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: be pretty bumped if his career turned into Kelly Johnson. 448 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 3: I had like a ten year career was worth like 449 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 3: twenty war. I mean, there are ground balls a short 450 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 3: stop too, baby, which is kind of amazing. He's like 451 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 3: making himself this much more valuable versatility get in the field. 452 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 3: But I do think that it's also something we talked 453 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 3: about a lot in this podcast, that development for these 454 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 3: prospects not linear, like things not automatic. It's kind of funny. 455 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: I say this because I'm right now podcasting in the 456 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 3: same spot in my same friends kitchen that I was 457 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 3: when we did our emergency episode two years ago when 458 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 3: Brett Bady got called up after that series against the Dodgers, 459 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 3: when Shares got kicked out with sticky stuff because I 460 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: wanted to break up to travel from LA So I'm 461 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: in here hanging out for a few days, but I've 462 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 3: been in the sac same spot. I'm kind of thinking, 463 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 3: this is weird. These are the things that are in 464 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 3: my brain, is what I think about when I'm like 465 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 3: kind of zoning out. And it was literally standing on 466 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,239 Speaker 3: the customs line like re entering the country today, I 467 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: was like, I wonder if David Stearns was the general 468 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 3: manager in like twenty one, twenty two to twenty three, 469 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: Like when Alphas and Baby actually would have gotten called 470 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: up a debut, Like how much of that was Eppler 471 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 3: not really having a good gripper grasp on these things 472 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 3: and rushing these guys. Because there was a Twitter user 473 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 3: that commented on my post about Brett Baty today at 474 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 3: J four M three five P four l l M 475 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 3: t R three three it was a great the other 476 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 3: ones were taken. Yeah, right, I'm saying right now because 477 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: he made a great points. 478 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 4: Man. 479 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 3: I never really realized about Brett Baby and Viento's their comparisons, 480 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 3: that Fiano's has played so much more Triple A baseball 481 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 3: on Brett Bailey, so much more. It was kind of ridiculous. 482 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 3: Brett Baty has played eighty five Triple A games, Mark 483 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 3: Fianta has played over two hundred Triple A games in 484 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: their careers. And when you think about the fact that 485 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: both of them were drafted out of high school, and 486 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 3: you think about how much more professional baseball Mark Fiantas 487 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 3: has played than Brett Bailey, and how much lay there 488 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 3: in his career he's broken out than Brett Baby was 489 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 3: experiencing different places. It kind of clicks in a little bit. 490 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 3: You're like, oh, maybe Brett Bage got called up way 491 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: too early for someone who entered the Mets system over 492 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 3: aged and under expedure games with big physical tools. He 493 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 3: got pushed through quickly because he keeps playing well. He 494 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 3: hit his first roadblock. We've kind of left him at 495 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: this roadblock, and it probably isn't the worst thing to 496 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 3: continue to have faith in the guy like this, maybe 497 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 3: not to be a superstar All Star caliber player, but 498 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 3: they just develop into a ballplayer one day. 499 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the Mets could use a lot of 500 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: good baseball players. Not everyone's listen. I'd love to have 501 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: an All Star and MVP player at every single position 502 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,479 Speaker 1: like the Los Angeles Dodgers, But ninety nine point nine 503 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: percent of teams will never have that, never will even 504 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: come close to having that. And these guys like Brett Baty, 505 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: who can just be major league players that give a 506 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: positive impact to your team year after year, are so 507 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: insanely valuable, especially when we're spending fifty million dollars on 508 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: one player like we are Atwan Soda and one player 509 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: is going to play right field indeed, which just helps 510 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: to have like cheaper options on the roster. And we 511 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: did a couple episodes ago We did the projecting the 512 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: Mets roster in twenty thirty episode, and it's kind of 513 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: it's a fun game. 514 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 3: Think about that. For a team like the Mets, who 515 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: we know is gonna spend a shit ton of money, 516 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 3: you really really need to have these cheap stop gaps 517 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 3: all over the field. Another guy who's going get a 518 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 3: shot the spring. Louis and Helicunya haven't seen much yet. 519 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 3: We're probably also still in the spot where it's learning 520 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 3: about which Luis on Helicunya is real and what kind 521 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 3: of what version of him is going to be. The 522 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 3: real ones obviously going to be not as good as 523 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 3: one at the end of the season last year, and 524 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 3: I think it's definitely almost definitely going to be someone 525 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 3: better than who was not very good trip play last year. 526 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 3: But it's about against still giving him the space to grow, 527 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 3: which is why Jose Glacer was good in the roster 528 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 3: last year. It is why Nick Madrigal petition begin the 529 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 3: roster this year, finding the opportunities for these guys, not 530 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 3: forcing them to come up too early, and kinds of 531 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 3: it's because it could be counteract with their development like 532 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 3: it probably was for Brett Baby. 533 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, they talked about it on the broadcast to say 534 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: too the thought of Luis on Helicunya, And then they 535 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: had guys like Donovan Walton who by no means it's 536 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: exciting to talk about it or anyone to Nick Madrigal 537 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: and they were saying, the Mets right now have to 538 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: make the decision. Lindor is gonna play short stop every 539 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: single day until he gets hurt, and when he gets hurt, 540 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: you could you figure out who plays shortstop then? So 541 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: do you really need to carry a guy that can 542 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: play shortstop when realistically there is no scenario where you 543 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: need to have a guy to fill that spot at 544 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: any moment. And that's why guys like Brett Baty and 545 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: maybe even I guess like Coon you because he could 546 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: play second base two but like, we don't necessarily need 547 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: the backup shortstop, which also kind of hurts I Glaciers 548 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: in a way. 549 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 2: I guess as well, we really. 550 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 3: Don't need it at all. We didn't use it last 551 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 3: year for a big chunk of the first half the 552 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 3: season until the Glaciers kind of came on the team. 553 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 3: They also probably if when thinking about specifically a guy 554 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: like Brett Bay and he got like Jared Young's starting 555 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 3: to get some at bads two. Yes, it's it's kind 556 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 3: of the idea of like, oh, it would be nice 557 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 3: to have another additional lefty on the roster because late 558 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 3: in games you want to make the match. Oh, Jared 559 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 3: Young actually has I don't think he's had that bad yet. 560 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: He got one today, he got hit. 561 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 3: We got today a right there we go got hit 562 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: by a pitch. He got hit by a pitch and 563 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 3: he popped up to the infield, so I see. Also 564 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 3: he took go a walk at some point sor right. Well, 565 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 3: we'll take all that. But it's nice to just keep 566 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: having optionable guys over here to mix a match. So 567 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 3: the more players that we can have that can move around, 568 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 3: where Jared Young is one of them, Brett Baedy is 569 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 3: one of them, Ryan Risio is one of them, loose 570 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 3: Nela Kunier are one of them. The fact that we 571 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 3: have these guys that can go up, down, back forth, 572 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: it's helpful for these puzzle pieces rather than just making 573 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 3: that backup infielder a guy like Iglesias who's like locked 574 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 3: in guarantee contract has to be there every single day 575 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 3: and doesn't give you as much flexibility. The thing that 576 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 3: David Stearns says openly all the time that he loves 577 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 3: so much. 578 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, and another reason why Jeff McNeill will be going 579 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: absolutely nowhere because he can play the infield, he can 580 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: play the outfield. And I gotta say the swings that 581 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,239 Speaker 1: I saw in the first game absolutely loved him. 582 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: From Jeff looked like old Jeff mcgial. 583 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: I know he wasn't hitting the ball, like he didn't 584 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: get any hits I don't think in the first game, 585 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: but he was keeping his shoulder and he wasn't running 586 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: out of the box, which is something that we saw 587 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: last year way too often. He looked healthy, the contact 588 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: looked really good. Excited to see what Jeff can do 589 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: this year. I really think he's gonna bounce back big time. 590 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 3: And we also got a not watch from a body 591 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 3: Jordan Jordan Simpson that Jeff has switched to a bat. 592 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 3: I don't remember if it was the dove tailor away 593 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 3: from the dovetail don't remember. I can't find a DM 594 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 3: right now, but that is supposedly he said, would give 595 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: him more power. Yes, and Jeff talked on MB network. 596 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 3: He was like, he switched this bat to try and 597 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 3: find more power. And I don't think a lot of 598 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 3: people really realize how good he was for more than 599 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: a half before the finger of the wrist, the hit 600 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 3: by pitch the end of the season last season. But 601 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 3: he was hitting for power when he actually got hot. 602 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 3: It was not slapped the ball around the yard Jeff McNeil. 603 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 3: It was the Jeff mcnil. But we saw years and 604 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 3: years ago where he was kind of driving in those 605 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 3: low pitches and pulling them out of the ballpark. Like 606 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 3: that's the Jeff McNeil. That is the best version of himself. 607 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: That's Jeff McNeil can give the most value to the 608 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 3: team and he's going to get a lot of the 609 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 3: best to season unless something goes horribly wrong. So that's 610 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 3: definitely the version Jeff McNeil I want in this roster. Again, 611 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 3: everything that we're saying this isn't bad things about Jose Laces. Honestly, 612 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 3: it's kind of the opposite. It's really unfair. The Jose 613 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 3: glacis super sucks that he could play so well last 614 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 3: year and be such a useful player, and the team 615 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 3: that he did that for is like we probably want you, 616 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 3: don't even want to guarantee you a contract but that's 617 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 3: also just the way baseball works for older guys now, 618 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 3: which again it sucks, is not fair, but it's just 619 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 3: that's just the way of the beast. 620 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 2: And also no one's knocking on his door. 621 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: The Mets can literally wait until probably a week or 622 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: two before the season starts if they really want Jose Igalasias, 623 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: and I guarantee he'll be ready to go again. 624 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 3: He's I mean, he's commenting on their Instagram. It's becoming 625 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 3: a little sad. 626 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean, had I saw the lunch with John Hayman. 627 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: There's pictures of hit them having lunch. I was like, 628 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: oh my god, I just I missed my buddy Jose Glaciers. 629 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 2: But at the same time, like, oh, what are we 630 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: gonna do? 631 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just I hope. I don't know how it's 632 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 3: going to get resolved, but I just it's it's I like, 633 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 3: I kind of like that as distracting from other things 634 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 3: that could be stories right now. So it's like we 635 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 3: could worry about Jose Glaciers, springs train and just let 636 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 3: the guys do what they gotta do, because there's just 637 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 3: there's a lot of other guys doing cool stuff right 638 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 3: now in the Mets. I want to talk about another 639 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 3: picture real quick. I want talk about Max Kranick, someone 640 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 3: who we popularized a little bit, got big on Mess 641 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 3: Twilter last year. Because you grew up a Mets fan 642 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 3: season ticket holder, David had his favorite player growing up. 643 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 3: He showed up on Sunday and was throwing bebies. It 644 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: was like the stuff was kind of stupid. I saw 645 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 3: a couple of the Mets pitching people on Twitter. I 646 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 3: saw Isaac, I saw My, I got Mikey, mj D analysis, 647 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 3: Jared Syler Baseball Perspectives, basically saying like this was what 648 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 3: Chranic was showing towards the end of last season leagues, 649 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 3: but it wasn't really it didn't he didn't get the 650 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 3: spot to the click yet. But now seeing the fact 651 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 3: that he's throwing a fastball twenty inches of invery vertical break, 652 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 3: getting that crazy hop on the fact that he's throwing 653 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 3: a super unique sweeper it has like lift on it 654 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 3: that can kind of play off the fastball, the fact 655 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 3: that he's got the gyro slide of the way, the 656 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 3: fact that he's using a curveball too, the fact that 657 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 3: he's showing it like a true four pitch mix, and 658 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 3: he's someone who doesn't even really have a role, Like 659 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 3: he threw a two winning thing on Sunday, so I 660 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 3: guess that means he's being stretched out as a starter. 661 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 3: But there's definitely a world where Max Cranics showing this 662 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 3: stuff and that kind of fastball sweeper combo. He could 663 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 3: definitely be this year's budo where he starts the year 664 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 3: in the rotation, see how it goes. But then if 665 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: we want the stuff to play up and things get in, 666 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 3: you move to the ballped you could suddenly be a 667 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 3: high leverage guy. That's good. Does Max Kranick have options? 668 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 3: I know he came up in twenty one and twenty 669 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 3: twenty two with the Potters, he has he has an option, 670 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 3: and he's again this is still the first Max Kranic 671 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 3: still isn't pitch in the major league since he had 672 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 3: Timy John surge in twenty twenty two. Like this is 673 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 3: this still someone where he's kind of like untouched on 674 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,239 Speaker 3: feather Player. He's only a twenty seven year old too, 675 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 3: so it's not like this is someone who's like even 676 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 3: close over the hill. Like this just seems like another 677 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: one of these guys in the mess. I wouldn't call 678 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 3: him glob of kass because that's a reserved for the 679 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: one inning relievers. But just in the mess of Mets 680 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 3: pitching depth with an option that we're probably overlooking right now, 681 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 3: that there's a good chance that they're going to rely 682 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: on for something like seventy eighty innings and hope to 683 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 3: get a four to one era. 684 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: Speaking of Tommy John, did you see everybody's favorite pitching 685 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: prospects of the Mets? 686 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: Oh, Matt Allen. Did you see the news about him? 687 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 3: Oh? I mean I did a little bit, but fill 688 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 3: me in. 689 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Tacoma on February twentieth. They've been doing a 690 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: lot of stuff on Matt Allen because it's got the 691 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: first time he's pitching in real games since twenty nineteen 692 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 1: and in case you guys can't do math, that is 693 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: six years ago. He has not pitched in the major 694 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: He has not pitched a professional baseball game in five 695 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: plus seasons. He's been throwing in minor league camp and 696 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: he's up to ninety seven miles an hour. That's kind 697 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: of crazy. 698 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 3: Can I give you another crazy stab about Matt Allen? 699 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 2: Hit me with it. 700 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 3: Matt Allen is younger than Brandon's prote what, yes, was 701 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 3: almost twenty five years old. 702 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 2: I know, but how is that possible? 703 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 3: How is Matthew Allens drafted as a high schooler? 704 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 2: Crazy? 705 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 3: What is that insane? 706 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 2: That's absolutely nuts. 707 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 3: I mean, listen again, that's also a funny thing to 708 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 3: think about in terms of, like all of these guys compared. 709 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 3: He's actually almost a year young. He's six months younger 710 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 3: than Brandice Bro He's not even twenty four yet. Matthew Allen, 711 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 3: that's crazy. 712 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 2: That's that's whatever. I mean. The story is good. 713 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: I really hope the best Room Health Wives and I 714 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: would love to be in months from now during our 715 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: prospect reports be talking about Matt allen resurgence and the comeback, right, 716 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: that'd be amazing. But I just you mentioned the Tommy 717 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: John thing and you know, not really pitching at the majors. 718 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, Matt Allen. How could we 719 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: forget to mention him. 720 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 3: It's just it's again, it's a great story. If he 721 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 3: even gets to one major league geting, I think it'll 722 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 3: be just so so so cool. For everything about back Room. 723 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 3: It's kind of like our honeywelling away. Yeah, it's just 724 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 3: like injury after injury after injury, like even just getting 725 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 3: there whatever you can wind up giving, like becoming a 726 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 3: major league and like cashing some checks, like that's gonna 727 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 3: be very cool. One more, actually two more, of course, 728 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 3: two more leaguers want to talk about talk about the 729 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 3: until we move on and the end of show stuff. 730 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 3: So I think I think the first guy from the 731 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 3: glob of casts isficially emerged someone I mentioned briefly in 732 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 3: passing in the winter months. He was actually one of 733 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 3: the first guys that the Mets signed all the way 734 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,239 Speaker 3: back in November sixth. Rico Garcia got four of us. 735 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 3: It's a plus fastball. It's that low slot, like nice 736 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 3: ride on it, but the flast these and great is 737 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 3: kind of like it's kind of like a little bit 738 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 3: lower than dead nail. So it's probably not the high 739 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 3: end ceiling, but someone who coul definitely a middle reliever, 740 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 3: and he's got two great breaking balls that could face 741 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 3: guys on both sides of plate. He's got the tight 742 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 3: gyro slide that has tons of drop on it. Then 743 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 3: he has a curveball with tons to drop on it, 744 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 3: and it kind of like both of them are kind 745 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 3: of like different death ball variations where like ones like 746 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: the small death ball, ones like the big death ball. 747 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 3: But basically that's someone who already has a three pitch 748 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 3: bag against both right these n lefties who can come 749 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: in with the fastballs going to miss bats even though 750 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 3: it's not the upper nineties. And as long as this 751 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 3: guy stays healthy because it in his thirty he's barely 752 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 3: pitching the major leagues, that's someone who could definitely be 753 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 3: someone who mixes in middle relief this year, which is incredible. 754 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: You gotta take a shot at who the other guy 755 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: that you liked was, because I mean, we've all we've 756 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: I definitely know technically had three games. But Tyler Zuoper's 757 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: got to be the other guy as the possible glob 758 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: of chaos one. 759 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 3: Hundred percent of the other guy, Rica Garcia. He has 760 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 3: thirty five total Major beguinnings between twenty nineteen and twenty 761 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 3: twenty three, and he's thirty one years old, doesn't have 762 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 3: an options. He might be one that if he is 763 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 3: good enough, he'll stay in the bullpen, or if not, 764 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 3: he'll be someone they definitely try to fit in if 765 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 3: they think he's good enough. But Tyler Zuber also we 766 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 3: love Tyler Zuber because he's like so active on Twitter 767 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 3: and he's so much fun. It seems like he loves 768 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 3: like all the Mets culture around them. He looked great. 769 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 3: He did that thing the Mets love where they had 770 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 3: a forcing fastball, a cover and a sinker. He also 771 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 3: threw a sweeper that was his primary pitch and was 772 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: pretty pretty, pretty pretty nasty. And I think that pitch, 773 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 3: if I remember correctly, also had more drop and more 774 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 3: sweep on it than it had last year. It came 775 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 3: in a bit slower, so could be some experimentation there 776 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 3: for Tyler Zuber, someone who is getting more movement on 777 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 3: that pitch, a pitch that's going to be his primary pitch. Yeah, 778 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 3: it was. It was five more inches of verythical break 779 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 3: at three more inches of horizontal break and three miles 780 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 3: an hour slower, which is more sweep across his own 781 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 3: and with the color of the fastball and the sinker. 782 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 3: Of course, that's the thing the Mets love Like this 783 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 3: is it's so cool that the Mets pitchings velm is 784 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 3: getting to a spot now with Stearn's being here for 785 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 3: over a year, Hefner being here for a while, and 786 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 3: Niagger's being here for a while that you can watch 787 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 3: the trends happen real time and you can spot these 788 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 3: guys that the Mets are literally manufacturing to become these 789 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 3: like major league caliber relievers, like see you in real 790 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: time like projected when we think it's going to happen 791 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 3: watching real time, then like hopefully enjoy the fruits like 792 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 3: during the summer. It's such a privilege rooting forward main 793 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 3: content about like a baseball team that is smart and 794 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 3: has good process and does all these little things on 795 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 3: the edges, right, It's so fucking cool. 796 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: Don't don't tell some people on Twitter that David Stearns 797 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: is not the favorite amongst a certain group of Met fans, 798 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: which is very interesting to me still to this day. 799 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 3: Now he's literally my favorite people on Earth two. Zuber 800 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 3: also does have an option, which is a cool thing. 801 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 3: Oh he does nice. You know he's playing for the 802 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 3: Long Island Ducks last year. I didn't know that I 803 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 3: know either. I mean cause he I think he was 804 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 3: in the Mets organization and then he was not, and 805 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 3: then he came back something like that. 806 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 2: No, he was. 807 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: He was mckinna city guy back in the day. Can't 808 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: see Royals he pished multiple years in the majors with them. 809 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, he made like fifty something 810 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: appearances with the Royals, which is kind of crazy. Then 811 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: he went to Arizona, didn't do anything, got to the Rays. 812 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: Pitched in the majors last year with the Rays and 813 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: the long ey On Ducks, which is so Tampa Bay 814 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: Rays that a guy that was pitching on the Ducks 815 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: would also pitch on their major league roster in the 816 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: same year. 817 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, raise everything. Also, sixth round pick whe Rico Garcia 818 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 3: I'm looking at his now is a thirtieth round pick 819 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:11,959 Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen. 820 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: Oh like that? Like that, he's a grinder. He went 821 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 2: to Hawaii Pacific, that's not even the main campus, and. 822 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 3: Zuper went to Arkansas State. 823 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: A couple couple well, Arkansas stateht what Hawaii Pacific? I 824 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: don't I don't even know what that could possibly be. 825 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, the Met's pitching's gonna be fun. As always, 826 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: we will keep a close eye on it. Anything else 827 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: to talk, Oh, I know what I wanted to talk about. 828 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, are the small things. 829 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Francisco Alvarez has a new stance. It looks exactly 830 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: like JD. Martinez's he's a little more upright. He is 831 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: loading or at least getting like, oh, what's the right word, 832 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: not activated, damn it, I can't think of the word. 833 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: But there's there's something with his hands and his load, 834 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: and basically like it's getting him more like launchable, if 835 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: that makes sense. And he pieced up a couple of 836 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: balls today, not necessarily even about lift. It's like something 837 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: about like being activated, getting snapped into a position and 838 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: to hit for some power. So he looked really comfortable, 839 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: and again he's trying to prioritize having a better year 840 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: at the plate this year, as he said very openly 841 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: so far. And then in the same game, we saw 842 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: simon Ian, you guys might remember from a couple international 843 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: signing class as a go nineteen ye years old, hit 844 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: an absolute nuke of a home run, a three run 845 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: shot to left field, nineteen having the pop that he 846 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: showed in that. 847 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,719 Speaker 2: I mean, that's me and you love like tools, tools, tools. 848 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 2: That tool right there is pretty insane from in game 849 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 2: power as well. Totally. 850 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 3: We got upsess with team on one last spring training 851 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 3: when he had two bad at balls. I think at 852 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,959 Speaker 3: least one was off a major League that was over 853 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 3: one hundred and eight miles an hour. Then to watch 854 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 3: him in the box today, sawt in there I can't 855 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 3: get rid of, like jorgece hil Air comps and I 856 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 3: see him in the box, just a big power, the 857 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 3: very loopy right handed swing that's like pretty violent. Like 858 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 3: I was like, oh baby, I see that, but that 859 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 3: was It's just nice to see. And again, it's cool 860 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 3: for these prospects to have these little moments in spring 861 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 3: training that we can kind of like put a pin 862 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 3: in them and be able to go back to them 863 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,959 Speaker 3: when things go bad and things go good. Also, that 864 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 3: game didn't have stack cast, so exciting for some of 865 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 3: these guys who don't have stack gass available most of 866 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 3: the games they played, to be able to see eggs 867 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 3: of loss these sea pitch movement. It's just such a 868 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 3: cool little caveat as to get data on guys you 869 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 3: don't often get data on. 870 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: Last thing I want to mention from the games, the 871 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,959 Speaker 1: Marlins could go down as one of the worst offensive 872 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: teams in history. I can't even believe the players that 873 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: they're running out in their lineup and hitting at the 874 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: top of the order. 875 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 3: It's crazy to me. 876 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know if I'm happy or sad that 877 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: we're playing the big at the beginning of the year. 878 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: I guess we'll find out. 879 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 3: No, I wrote, I wrote there on their team preview 880 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 3: for the World the World Fantasy Baseball Guy, and then 881 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 3: going through their position players we're going to play the season. 882 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 3: It was shocking. Daan Myers. 883 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 2: Did you have a staff editor, said Clayton McCullough. No. 884 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: He said that they have two everyday players and it's 885 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: Connor Norby and Xavior Edwards. They said every other position 886 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: will be based on platoons and matchups, which is kind 887 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: of a little bit of chaos, and I kind of 888 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: respect it for a team that is complete dog shit. 889 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I do respect it. And there's thing 890 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 3: also some guys was like, again, like a mod the 891 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 3: come up major league potential on that team, but it's 892 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 3: it's it's embarrassing what they did to a playoff roster 893 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 3: in two years. Also really sick to see what Sandy 894 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 3: al contric could do one He's definitely just crazy. And 895 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 3: then I think it was Allen members was Bendixer McCulla 896 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 3: after the game is like, yeah, he's back. No restrictions 897 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 3: it's like, oh, this guy's just literally a freak of nature. 898 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 3: So cool to see him back. I think baseball's better 899 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 3: guys like Sandiale contract throwing BB's for two hundred forty 900 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 3: things at a time. Also, one more thing I want 901 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 3: to talk about, which especially we'realking a lot about social 902 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 3: media stuff that the games are going on. I think 903 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 3: the Mets fans Yankee fans got dial back off each other. 904 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 3: It's become too much. It become way too much like 905 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 3: they were Yankee fans tweeting like wan So of the 906 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 3: Clay Holmes hate watch today and then all the Mets 907 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 3: fans like jumping on them to the quote tweets like 908 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 3: the Yankees fans shouldn't be worried the best spring training 909 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 3: games for hate watch Mets fans. You should not be 910 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: glowing the best spring training results in any way, shape 911 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 3: or form. So I think everyone bring the swords down 912 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 3: until May we get the Subway series going here. 913 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree. 914 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: I've definitely seen some stuff where I'm like, like, I 915 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: love seeing Yankee fans hate the Mets. That's awesome. I'm 916 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: all about that. I don't think we need to clap back. 917 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: I think there's no reason to. We got their guy, 918 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: We got the seven hundred million dollar man that they 919 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: went after. 920 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 2: He chose us over them. Let the play let the 921 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 2: player let that through the talking. 922 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: I don't think we need to be clapping just yet 923 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: when both of our records are zero and. 924 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: Zero right now. 925 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. It's also I think it was also maybe just 926 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 3: maybe extra funny this weekend when they lifted the beard policy, 927 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 3: because that was incredible. 928 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean time that they've done that, But it 929 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: was also very funny that they did. And it's like 930 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: the Mets Wan Soto first game the Yankees, we lifted 931 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 1: the beard policy. 932 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 3: I will say this might be my hot to take. 933 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 3: I hate that they lifted it, and I think it 934 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 3: was a cool thing. 935 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 5: It made the unique No, it was so not cool, 936 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 5: but the fact that was so not cool maybe it 937 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 5: made the Yankees like this kind that like the Yankees 938 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 5: always had this regal thing and it wasn't real, but 939 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 5: they were like, we won World Series fifty years ago 940 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 5: and then none of our players kind of facial hair. 941 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 3: Like that was kind of part of the mystique. Like 942 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 3: I again, if they get rid of the beard policy, 943 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 3: I think they should put Monument Park back in the 944 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 3: field of play, just to show off how great their 945 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 3: history is. Because now I don't know how we know 946 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 3: the Yankees have mystique anymore if their players have beards, 947 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 3: like they're gonna put names on the back and next 948 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 3: what we're gonna do about this a little probably. 949 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 2: A little more inclusive. 950 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: I think that that rule could have been made for 951 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: some diabolical reasons that maybe are not the most PC 952 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: right now. 953 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's still just I don't know, it's it's it's 954 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 3: crazy they still had that rule. I thought it was 955 00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 3: funny that they like had a press release in the 956 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 3: for say a spring training. I'm not having it anymore. 957 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,959 Speaker 3: They're like meetings between how Stein Brunn and Aaron Boone 958 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 3: and Aaron Judge and Carl Stanton. 959 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: Fucked up that they like had the player's shave and 960 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: then they announced it they might just do this in December, November. 961 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 3: Some shit. Maybe you still have one so though, if 962 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 3: you've lightened up a little bit. But I think the 963 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 3: last thing I want to talk about too, something I 964 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 3: think we missed last week because I was still in 965 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 3: chaos with the Frankie Mattis thing, the preaking news. But 966 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 3: when Steve Cohen gave his press conference about fan attendance 967 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 3: about the casino and Flushing definitely kind of some weirdish 968 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 3: vibes sometimes. Yeah, I think we briefly mentioned it. I 969 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 3: was like, it was a different side of Steve Cohen 970 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 3: that we haven't seen. I feel like business business Steve 971 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 3: co Yeah, we saw a business man Steve Cohen right there. 972 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 3: We saw billionaire Steve Cohen, not the guy that gets 973 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 3: things done yet not not want soda. 974 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: How much money do you want, Steve Cohen? This is 975 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: like I need to make some money now, Steve Cohen. 976 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 2: I mean, listen. 977 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: I can understand his frustration as a new owner and 978 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: seeing the amount of money that he's invested and being like, 979 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: how the fuck are we eighteenth in attendance, But also 980 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: at the same time, the team was what dogshit for 981 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: the first nine games of the season. 982 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 3: They were really bad totally, but also came comes back 983 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 3: to something that we were critical of. I think we 984 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 3: both got shipped for a twitter about that. We were 985 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 3: at that NAT Series towards the end of the year 986 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 3: where it was do or die games. I think the 987 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 3: match we won a walk off, and I think we 988 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 3: went to every game that yeriar is. There was a 989 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 3: walk off, there was another close game, and he was like, 990 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 3: no one's in the ballpark that week. It was crazy. 991 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 3: I couldn't believe. It's like we were we were drawing 992 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 3: only like ten thousand and fifteen thousand people. Which I do 993 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 3: agree with him where it's like how if the fans 994 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 3: are coming to that game, like what game are they 995 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 3: coming to? But I think it also does make sense 996 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 3: with it's just hard to draw game people to Flushing 997 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 3: Queens in a week night. That was a cool night 998 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 3: when school starts. That's hard. But I also think that 999 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 3: it is getting a little weit with the casino stuff too. 1000 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 3: With him the fact that he was asked point blank, 1001 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,919 Speaker 3: if there's not going to be a casino, we're still 1002 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 3: gonna do the project? He said maybe no, Like I 1003 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 3: think we want that project. We need the parked trains, restaurants, definitely, 1004 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 3: we need we need that stuff with Brown City Field, 1005 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 3: that stuff's huge. I think it'd be really cool to 1006 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 3: even have that without a casino. I really don't give 1007 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 3: a shit that. I kind of hope it's not casino 1008 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 3: there because I think casino's speak for, I mean, seems 1009 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 3: just bring bad people. To areas like that's just basis 1010 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 3: what it is, so I would like to I'm very 1011 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 3: curious see what happens if there's no casino, if we 1012 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 3: still develop that whole area. 1013 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: I will say I think YCFC getting the stadium right 1014 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 1: next door as well, surely has to make it more 1015 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: likely that there's gonna be some development in that area. 1016 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: And really, like we talked about the Mets lack of 1017 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: attendance and the price for parking on its own is ridiculous. 1018 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: It's it's not realistic for people. Not the Mets fault, 1019 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: it's the city's fault. Shout out the city always the best. 1020 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: But I think if they're because right now, going to 1021 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: a Mets game is not a day experience, Like it's 1022 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: a day experience in terms of time that you have 1023 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 1: to spend to get to the stadium and leave the stadium. 1024 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,959 Speaker 1: But if you can get people at the stadium because 1025 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: there's restaurants, there's bars, there's hotels outside the staum, that's 1026 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: how you start getting more and more people two games 1027 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 1: every single day because it's more of a destination rather 1028 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: than an event that you're going to. And I think 1029 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: that's that's one way that would definitely help because right now, 1030 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,919 Speaker 1: the only options if you want to get a drink 1031 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 1: or any sort of food before the game is Ebbs 1032 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: and the CA Corner, and the CA Corner runs stadium 1033 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: prices unless you drink Corpers Light, and I don't even 1034 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: know if they're gonna do that this year. They better 1035 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 1: otherwise I'm gonna riot, but they were three dollars. Otherwise 1036 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: you were paying ten dollars for a cup of beer 1037 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: at the K Corner. That's not a good before the 1038 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: game price. And then Ebbs you have to like light 1039 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: craft beer. I drink shitty Corepers Light. They don't have 1040 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: that for me. But it's also like the only spot, 1041 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: so you're kind of limited, and there's not unlimited room. 1042 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 2: Inside of these places as well. 1043 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: I think that's one thing that also hurts the Mets 1044 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: attendance as well, is that it's you simply come to 1045 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: the game and you leave, and we. 1046 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,879 Speaker 3: Lost the boardwalk guy. If that boardwalk guy's back there 1047 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 3: with the five dollar bud lights and white claws, like 1048 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 3: I'm there for a couple of beers before the game, 1049 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 3: that's easy. But I also I always think about when 1050 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 3: we went to the Battery at that time a few 1051 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 3: seasons ago where we were talking to we were talking 1052 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 3: to people in Atlanta and they were like, Yeah, I'm like, 1053 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 3: I'm from Arkansas, I'm here for the weekend, going to 1054 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 3: all three games. I'm here from Alabama. I'm going to 1055 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 3: all three games. Like I know the Braves more so 1056 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 3: than most other I guess sports teams in the country 1057 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 3: have more of a regional fan base. Yeah, like a 1058 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 3: very set fan base. But then the New Yorkers move 1059 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 3: all the across the country all the time. Like, there's 1060 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 3: definitely a good chance that there's Mets fans who live 1061 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 3: in of like for a far away states that might 1062 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 3: have moved away that might need a plan to come back. 1063 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 3: It probably much easier to have Mets weekend rather than 1064 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 3: like a city weekend and go to one game, or 1065 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 3: you can get to what deal Sadly, you can get 1066 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 3: people to Flushing, like the fresh Flushing metropolitan area for 1067 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 3: a weekend, go to two games and four restaurants. That's awesome. 1068 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 3: That changes the whole complexity of what it means to 1069 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 3: go to a Mets game and for a weekend or 1070 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 3: for a weekend day. 1071 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, definitely, I wish I could remember the name 1072 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: of the guy that we met on the train after games. 1073 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: Now he was from from Nashville or Nashville or Kansas City. 1074 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 3: I think Kansas City. Nailed Kansas City. I got you. 1075 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 2: He knows who he is. 1076 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 1: But he was like, yeah, I'm just I'm here quickly, 1077 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: like I gotta go back into the city and then 1078 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: I catch a flight later. 1079 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 2: Like this isn't This is. 1080 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: Not a mainstream, good streamline process to go to a 1081 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: Mets game if you're not literally in one of the 1082 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: burroughs around the city. 1083 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 3: That which is why again next to the conversation, I 1084 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 3: hope that even if we don't get the casino, that 1085 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 3: we still build to break this area goods. I think 1086 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 3: we'll get more people there and I'm really, really really 1087 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 3: interested to see this summer have this unfolds, because the 1088 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 3: politicians have said Steve Cohen's not getting casino and Steve 1089 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 3: coin so I think he's gotting casino. 1090 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: So I'm really I also wasn't gonna have Jacob de 1091 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: Grom picture in the twenty twenty season because of code vaccines, 1092 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: and he quickly changed that as well, So yeah, that. 1093 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 3: Was twenty twenty one. But Steve Cohen doesn't lose very often, 1094 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 3: so I'm very interested to see, as someone who likes politics, 1095 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 3: like local politics, all this, all this funny shit, how 1096 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 3: this plays out. I can't wait. 1097 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: James will be the local Court of Politics correspondent for 1098 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,720 Speaker 1: the podcast, because I sure as hell have no interest. 1099 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll bring I'll get my note pad. Now start, 1100 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 3: I'll start with John Town some notes I got. 1101 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: What with attendance, we know that attendance always lags behind performance. 1102 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: I think the first couple months of the season is 1103 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: going to really show how interested Mets fans are, and 1104 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: I think the attendance numbers are going to be significantly higher. 1105 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 1: I mean, they got me to buy a season tickets. 1106 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure they're getting a bunch of other people as well. 1107 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: I agree, But I still think April is going to 1108 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: always be hard to draw. 1109 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, well that's even more indicative though, if like, 1110 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 3: if they have a great addictive you're indicative whatever, getting 1111 00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,240 Speaker 3: who cares, it's it's. 1112 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 2: Two o'clock in the morning, make me work out these 1113 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 2: crazy times. 1114 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. I'm here, I'm good, I'm ready to go. 1115 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 2: But whatever, we'll see. 1116 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 3: If they have a good April attendants, they're gonna have 1117 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 3: a great attendancies and then you keep winning baseball games, 1118 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 3: people will be there. That's all the mattess and hopefully 1119 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 3: that happens. I think this weekend of spring training was 1120 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 3: a good start to winning baseball games. 1121 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: Great start, great start, a lot of good things here. 1122 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna have more games coming up this week. So 1123 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: of course on the second episode that we dropped this week, 1124 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: we'll update you guys on whatever is going on. 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User name is Taken. I don't know. Oh man, 1138 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 2: this is so long. Oh my goodness, this is too long. Jacob. 1139 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna say that for another episode and said, I'm 1140 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: gonna give us Sean Duram, James and Mark are always 1141 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: the best of getting the truth on all the Fresh Mets. 1142 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 2: News five stars. Awesome, pot, Thank you Sean Durham. Appreciate you. 1143 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 3: Thank you for that much. On Durham, I'm gonna try 1144 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 3: and find one here. This is all Wow, we get 1145 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 3: some long witht people ask me. 1146 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: Gavin. Gavin's on here like once a month. He's the 1147 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: king of the essays. 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